| 00:00:22 | Zagor | ha |
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| 00:29:59 | Zagor | off to bed |
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| 00:49:17 | BoD[] | hellllllllllo :) |
| 00:49:23 | LinusN | yo |
| 00:49:34 | BoD[] | nice april's fool fish :) |
| 00:49:38 | LinusN | :-) |
| 00:49:57 | BoD[] | didn't believe it but tried it anyway ! |
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| 00:55:31 | RedLeg | Greetings! |
| 00:56:09 | RedLeg | Anybody awake? |
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| 00:57:15 | BoD[] | i'm awke, but drunk |
| 00:57:27 | RedLeg | Better than nothing.... |
| 00:57:44 | RedLeg | I have a dardware issue with my Recorder 20, looking for help.... |
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| 00:59:19 | BoD[] | dardware ? :) |
| 00:59:33 | RedLeg | s/dardware/hardware |
| 00:59:45 | BoD[] | what kind of issue |
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| 01:00:03 | RedLeg | Anyone ever seen "HD register error" + some register info at bootup? |
| 01:00:32 | BoD[] | yup |
| 01:00:42 | BoD[] | but my unit has a bug |
| 01:00:44 | RedLeg | It does not spin up the HD (upgraded to a tosh 60gig) and eventually says "Read access error" |
| 01:01:22 | BoD[] | hmm |
| 01:01:43 | RedLeg | I took the HD out and it workee fine on an IDE controller connected to a windoze box |
| 01:02:13 | RedLeg | What sort of bug does your unit have? |
| 01:02:32 | BoD[] | it reboots |
| 01:02:51 | BoD[] | in a middle of playing a song |
| 01:03:11 | RedLeg | Don't play that song? (da-dump) |
| 01:03:13 | BoD[] | sometimes it works fine for a long time, sometimes it reboots several times in a raw |
| 01:03:25 | BoD[] | no it does not depend on the song |
| 01:03:42 | BoD[] | and it occurs also with the original archos firmware |
| 01:03:57 | RedLeg | Oh.... sounds like hardware.... |
| 01:03:59 | BoD[] | the warranty is over so i have to live with it :( |
| 01:04:20 | BoD[] | yes it's hardware but I don't know what :( |
| 01:04:38 | RedLeg | I called Archos Tech Support, they suffested formatting the drive and starting over. |
| 01:04:40 | BoD[] | it's really annoying ... booting takes like 10 seconds+ |
| 01:05:03 | BoD[] | did you try that ? |
| 01:05:22 | RedLeg | Not yet, I don't have an easy way to back up 60 gigs of tunez |
| 01:05:40 | RedLeg | Drive is FULL |
| 01:05:49 | BoD[] | :)) |
| 01:06:15 | RedLeg | Yeah, waiting for the next gen (120?) with baited breath..... |
| 01:07:03 | LinusN | how are your batteries? |
| 01:07:46 | RedLeg | I've tried three different sets of fully charged 1800mah batteries with no difference. |
| 01:07:53 | LinusN | ok |
| 01:08:30 | RedLeg | I put another (smaller) disk back in, and it spins up, so I think the hardware is OK. |
| 01:08:32 | BoD[] | same here ;) original archos green batteries and new 1800 ones... no difference |
| 01:09:01 | LinusN | maybe the hd needs a little too much current when spinning up? |
| 01:09:10 | RedLeg | Archos Tech Support d00d suggested something corrupted a register on (in?) the drive. |
| 01:09:27 | RedLeg | Well, it has worked flawlessly for MONTHS, then just quit. |
| 01:09:35 | LinusN | oh |
| 01:09:36 | RedLeg | It draws .7 amps |
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| 01:11:43 | RedLeg | I even plugged the disc into my win2k box and ran the diagnostics and error correction/detection stuff |
| 01:11:57 | RedLeg | It ran for 12+ hours, but returned NO errors. |
| 01:12:55 | RedLeg | LinusN: Thanks for the hard work, BTW. It ROCKS (pun intended)! |
| 01:13:19 | BoD[] | rockbox rocks my world |
| 01:13:29 | BoD[] | even with a buggy unit :) |
| 01:13:55 | thu | can I delete the rockbox ajz directly from rockbox? |
| 01:14:53 | LinusN | thu: yes |
| 01:16:37 | thu | cool |
| 01:17:00 | LinusN | why would you want that? |
| 01:17:01 | RedLeg | LinusN: Archos Tech Support suggested reformatting the drive. I can think of no reason this would help... You? |
| 01:17:21 | LinusN | i can't think of any reason to do so |
| 01:17:47 | BoD[] | my isp always suggests rebooting the modem and the machine... |
| 01:17:59 | BoD[] | when THEIR mail server is down |
| 01:18:13 | BoD[] | which happens often ;) |
| 01:18:13 | LinusN | RedLeg: is the HD a master or a slave? |
| 01:18:34 | RedLeg | LinusN: Unjumpered, so I guess master |
| 01:19:07 | thu | BoD[]: that's good.. makes you feel like it's your fault :) |
| 01:19:10 | LinusN | just make sure that it isn't cable selected or something |
| 01:20:01 | RedLeg | LinusN: I'll check the dox online... back in a sec |
| 01:20:23 | BoD[] | ::) |
| 01:20:31 | LinusN | you can check menu->debug->i/o ports, bottom row |
| 01:21:13 | thu | hmm the oscillograph is cool |
| 01:21:25 | thu | it would be neat to integrate it in the main screen |
| 01:21:28 | thu | winamp-style |
| 01:21:43 | RedLeg | LinusN: Tosh website says no jumpers := master |
| 01:21:52 | LinusN | ok |
| 01:22:37 | RedLeg | thu: I agree, would be neat on main screen... |
| 01:22:55 | RedLeg | Right now I would like to GET to the main screen.... |
| 01:23:11 | * | thu needs to dust off his C |
| 01:23:46 | thu | what would I need to know to write an 'app' for the archos? |
| 01:24:18 | thu | technical details and specific features I mean |
| 01:26:08 | thu | lol who was the poor soul who wrote sokoban? |
| 01:26:45 | BoD[] | :)) |
| 01:26:54 | RedLeg | LinusN: I'm leaving to drive home, will be back in an hour or so if you're still up |
| 01:26:55 | BoD[] | and tetris |
| 01:27:00 | RedLeg | LinusN: Thanks for the help.... |
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| 01:29:47 | thu | hmm.. the cpu runs at 11MHz? |
| 01:30:50 | BoD[] | dont know |
| 01:30:55 | BoD[] | but it's too slow |
| 01:31:06 | LinusN | player is 12MHz, recorder is 11.0592MHz |
| 01:31:25 | thu | yup |
| 01:31:29 | thu | hehe cool |
| 01:31:38 | BoD[] | i think in the ipod the main proc does everything including mp3 decoding |
| 01:32:07 | thu | the ipod is eXXXpensive |
| 01:32:15 | BoD[] | very true |
| 01:32:26 | thu | but I see the advantages of such model |
| 01:32:32 | BoD[] | but it's small and good looking and it has a roll thing |
| 01:32:44 | thu | it's not smaller than the archos, is it? |
| 01:32:52 | BoD[] | and they can run linux on it :) |
| 01:32:57 | thu | w00t? |
| 01:32:58 | BoD[] | yes !! smaller ! |
| 01:33:24 | thu | hmm |
| 01:33:29 | BoD[] | yes a special version of linux |
| 01:34:12 | BoD[] | http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/index.shtml |
| 01:35:04 | LinusN | i have to go to bed |
| 01:35:07 | LinusN | nite all |
| 01:35:22 | thu | i see |
| 01:35:23 | | Part LinusN |
| 01:35:32 | thu | what I don't see is real benefits though |
| 01:35:39 | thu | like rockbox >> firmware |
| 01:35:45 | thu | but linux on ipod kinda sucks imho |
| 01:35:54 | thu | not much you can do with it |
| 01:36:06 | thu | and even mp3 decoding is buggy |
| 01:36:31 | BoD[] | well |
| 01:36:41 | BoD[] | they can do ogg decoding for example ;) |
| 01:36:49 | BoD[] | which you can't do with an archos |
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| 01:37:13 | tracktheripper | Hi |
| 01:37:15 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 01:37:44 | thu | well if mp3 decoding is buggy I can only imagine about the ogg |
| 01:38:11 | thu | anyways I'm keeping a close eye on archos |
| 01:38:19 | thu | I just hope they keep up the good work |
| 01:38:19 | BoD[] | rockbox was buggy in the early stages ! |
| 01:38:22 | BoD[] | that's normal |
| 01:38:27 | BoD[] | it will improve with time |
| 01:38:38 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 01:38:40 | thu | yeah but the mp3 decoding is done in hardware |
| 01:38:44 | thu | you don't have to write it from scratch |
| 01:38:57 | BoD[] | yeah |
| 01:39:01 | BoD[] | but still :) |
| 01:39:10 | thu | heh |
| 01:39:15 | thu | best of luck to the ipod guys :) |
| 01:39:16 | tracktheripper | hi thu and BoD |
| 01:39:21 | PsycoXul | from what i heard the ipod can do hardware decoding too, but the linux project started with doing it in software |
| 01:39:22 | thu | hi tracktheripper |
| 01:39:27 | PsycoXul | or something like that |
| 01:39:29 | tracktheripper | hi there |
| 01:39:32 | tracktheripper | whats up? |
| 01:39:44 | thu | linux on archos |
| 01:39:47 | tracktheripper | Did anyone else get caught out by the Doom april fool gag? |
| 01:40:10 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:40:13 | thu | if my system didn't crap out I would have probably been caught yesterday |
| 01:40:20 | BoD[] | I knew it was a joke, but I tested it anyway :) after reading the posts in the mailing list :) |
| 01:40:23 | thu | as I wasn't in the April mood yet |
| 01:40:31 | PsycoXul | i downloaded the ajz |
| 01:40:35 | thu | me too :) |
| 01:40:36 | PsycoXul | and then thought about it |
| 01:40:39 | PsycoXul | and downloaded the source and read it |
| 01:40:45 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:40:46 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 01:40:53 | tracktheripper | I sent it as a bug report!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:40:55 | tracktheripper | hahaha! |
| 01:41:08 | thu | hmm this is nice |
| 01:41:20 | thu | rockbox doesn't click the hard drive as much when recording |
| 01:41:22 | tracktheripper | after all it is April Fools day! |
| 01:41:23 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 01:41:33 | * | thu wants radio on rockbox :( |
| 01:41:53 | tracktheripper | thu do u have an FM recorder? |
| 01:42:06 | BoD[] | ahahahaha :)) |
| 01:42:18 | thu | yeah |
| 01:42:36 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 01:42:48 | tracktheripper | bet Zagor was pulling his hair out :-) |
| 01:43:17 | thu | wohoo I managed to get rockbox stuck |
| 01:43:33 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 01:43:46 | thu | I loaded the ajz again and clicked a few buttons |
| 01:43:50 | thu | and dead it was |
| 01:44:06 | tracktheripper | heehee |
| 01:44:12 | tracktheripper | was that trying to play doom? |
| 01:44:29 | thu | nop.. the rockbox ajz |
| 01:44:42 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 01:44:49 | thu | is it possible to rename a file? |
| 01:44:59 | PsycoXul | on+play |
| 01:45:14 | thu | why the weird combination and not a menu? |
| 01:45:24 | PsycoXul | what menu? |
| 01:45:32 | PsycoXul | that brings up a menu |
| 01:45:32 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:45:39 | thu | yeah but I don't wanna push 2 keys |
| 01:45:43 | thu | it's too complicated! :)) |
| 01:45:46 | PsycoXul | too bad |
| 01:45:47 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:45:55 | PsycoXul | there's no other keys available for it |
| 01:45:58 | PsycoXul | especialy on the player |
| 01:46:05 | PsycoXul | combo's are good |
| 01:46:32 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 01:47:52 | tracktheripper | shame the UP arrow cannot be used in the F2 and F3 menus |
| 01:48:11 | PsycoXul | why is that |
| 01:48:20 | tracktheripper | ask Linus |
| 01:48:37 | tracktheripper | he rejected my request "Use the UP arrow in the F2 and F3 rapid-fire menus" |
| 01:49:19 | thu | how do I browse for the next file while playing? |
| 01:49:25 | PsycoXul | press on |
| 01:49:32 | thu | heh thanks |
| 01:49:38 | thu | are there any docs on this? |
| 01:49:45 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 01:49:46 | PsycoXul | the manual :p |
| 01:49:49 | thu | ok :P |
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| 01:53:25 | thu | what does the 'auto volume' do? |
| 01:53:55 | tracktheripper | keeps the volume differences constant between songs recorded at different levels |
| 01:54:21 | thu | so why does it have a time interval as a parameter? |
| 01:54:40 | PsycoXul | how long it takes to adjust the volume |
| 01:54:56 | thu | cool |
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| 01:57:45 | thu | what about the peak meter? |
| 01:59:06 | thu | I found something to do |
| 01:59:16 | thu | I'll contribute a Romanian translation |
| 01:59:21 | thu | there doesn't seem to be one |
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| 03:24:15 | midknight2k3 | You there Psyco? |
| 03:25:05 | midknight2k3 | Anyone available? I have an issue |
| 03:25:06 | midknight2k3 | With rockbox anyways |
| 03:25:13 | midknight2k3 | Well it has to do with Doom on the archos recorder |
| 03:25:24 | midknight2k3 | It says that I have been fooled - and I lose |
| 03:25:31 | midknight2k3 | Is it really just a joke? |
| 03:26:19 | midknight2k3 | Or is it because it's April 1 over here? |
| 03:27:02 | midknight2k3 | Anyone? |
| 03:28:32 | midknight2k3 | Please! |
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| 03:38:52 | midknight2k3 | Hello? |
| 03:42:01 | midknight2k3 | I want help please please please don't you remember me? |
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| 03:53:48 | thu | lol |
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| 04:52:11 | Temfate | Anyone know what's broke in the current CVS tree? |
| 04:53:00 | Temfate | I got a compile error; just checking... Anyone else have a problem with it? |
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| 06:03:06 | jay | arg my rockbox is frozen |
| 06:03:15 | jay | anyone here speak english? |
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| 06:16:07 | midknight2k3 | Anyone here? |
| 06:17:18 | midknight2k3 | Hello please answer |
| 06:17:43 | midknight2k3 | me havo questiono |
| 06:18:16 | midknight2k3 | pleasE? |
| 06:19:50 | midknight2k3 | Come on it's not funny |
| 06:19:57 | midknight2k3 | Don't you remember me? |
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| 06:36:22 | thu | heh |
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| 07:18:37 | thu | stupid question .. is leaving the archos 'charging' for a whole night bad? |
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| 08:52:09 | Schnueff | moin |
| 08:53:06 | dwihno | jes |
| 08:53:34 | Schnueff | jawohl |
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| 09:16:24 | Bagder | hi |
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| 09:16:29 | Zagor | howdy |
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| 10:03:26 | dwihno | langhaar :D |
| 10:03:29 | dwihno | Zag, Bag |
| 10:03:34 | langhaarrocker | moin |
| 10:03:36 | Bagder | mornings |
| 10:03:41 | Zagor | j00 |
| 10:03:47 | Zagor | ;) |
| 10:03:50 | dwihno | Nice work with the Doom stuff :) |
| 10:03:59 | Bagder | :-) |
| 10:04:00 | langhaarrocker | oh. Zagor is in 'cool-mode' :) |
| 10:04:19 | Zagor | I 0wZ j000!!!!! |
| 10:04:30 | dwihno | Whoa! |
| 10:04:36 | dwihno | Zagor has been h4x0red! |
| 10:05:27 | * | langhaarrocker failed descrambling that. |
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| 10:05:42 | quelsaruk | morning |
| 10:05:48 | langhaarrocker | määh |
| 10:06:03 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: i'm going to see apocalyptica this summer |
| 10:06:03 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 10:07:16 | langhaarrocker | do that. It was one of the most joyful concert experiences I had (when being part of the audience) |
| 10:08:38 | quelsaruk | well, after them, plays blind guardian. I don't know which experience i will like more :) |
| 10:09:10 | langhaarrocker | after apocalyptica you might need deaf guardian. :) |
| 10:10:32 | Zagor | Bagder: did you include USB detection to the doom code? |
| 10:10:55 | Bagder | I don't think it even will continue beyond the initial splash |
| 10:11:06 | dwihno | Bagder: splash()? :D |
| 10:11:31 | Bagder | splash() yes ;-) |
| 10:11:33 | Zagor | that could be why the guy in the yahoo group has problems. he needs to boot with the cable connected. I'll reply. |
| 10:11:39 | Bagder | ah |
| 10:11:54 | Bagder | right, it doesn't detect USB while showing the splash |
| 10:12:02 | Bagder | I wonder if we should add that |
| 10:12:06 | Bagder | generally I mean |
| 10:12:20 | Bagder | nah |
| 10:12:35 | Bagder | let's split splash into two functions first, one that displays and one that waits for keys etc |
| 10:12:46 | Zagor | the slash should exit with a usb return code on connect, I think |
| 10:12:50 | dwihno | :D:D :D |
| 10:12:54 | Zagor | right. the second needs to detect. |
| 10:13:05 | Bagder | yeps |
| 10:15:43 | langhaarrocker | wow Linus went berzerk last night! :) |
| 10:16:55 | dwihno | ? |
| 10:17:10 | langhaarrocker | a whole bunch of commits |
| 10:23:43 | Zagor | check out this new product: http://www.slimdevices.com/slimdrm.html |
| 10:24:12 | Zagor | woohoo, no more annoying analog audio out ;) |
| 10:26:58 | langhaarrocker | 0-Bit DAC! Lol. |
| 10:32:47 | thu | that's too big |
| 10:32:56 | thu | they should have a smaller sink if they expect people to use it |
| 10:33:32 | Zagor | sink? |
| 10:33:54 | langhaarrocker | I assume they couldn't do that without active cooling - which would make noise - which spoils the idea of the audio sink. |
| 10:34:51 | Zagor | ah you mean the AudioSink® technology? ;) |
| 10:34:56 | langhaarrocker | yes |
| 10:36:33 | Schnueff | heise.de-universal business adapter has a nice pic :) |
| 10:36:35 | Schnueff | http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/sun-31.03.03-000/ |
| 10:36:55 | Bagder | haha |
| 10:37:55 | Zagor | :-) |
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| 10:39:48 | langhaarrocker | strange. That magazine already had it's april fool. They claimed to use notebook harddrives as navigation sensor |
| 10:40:09 | tracktheripper | morning |
| 10:40:42 | langhaarrocker | moin |
| 10:40:50 | tracktheripper | :) |
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| 10:43:49 | tracktheripper | stupid AOL |
| 10:44:58 | tracktheripper | morning Quel |
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| 10:46:46 | yoldTAF | hi |
| 10:46:55 | Bagder | 'lo |
| 10:47:20 | tracktheripper | hi Badger |
| 10:47:28 | tracktheripper | i got caught by your Doom april fools gag! |
| 10:47:43 | dwihno | you did? :) |
| 10:47:45 | dwihno | hehu |
| 10:47:58 | tracktheripper | well I got revenge by filing it as a bug report :) |
| 10:48:13 | dwihno | april april din dumma sill, jag kan lura dig vart jag vill! :D :D :D |
| 10:48:59 | tracktheripper | :D:D:D |
| 10:49:04 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 10:49:05 | tracktheripper | :( |
| 10:49:20 | yoldTAF | thx everybody for rockbox, it's really a very good job |
| 10:49:22 | yoldTAF | i love it ! |
| 10:49:46 | dwihno | you don't think the interface is badly constructed? |
| 10:49:46 | langhaarrocker | dwihno: April April your silliness herring , self able deceive yourself vart I will? |
| 10:49:51 | tracktheripper | good :) |
| 10:49:52 | tracktheripper | (: |
| 10:50:28 | Bagder | Rockbox plainly rocks ;-) |
| 10:51:10 | tracktheripper | Joquam has the best interface :-) |
| 10:53:09 | tracktheripper | ok so if rockbox is so much better why dont archos provide it as standard wiv their jukeboxes? |
| 10:53:24 | Bagder | ask them |
| 10:53:45 | tracktheripper | :( |
| 10:54:11 | langhaarrocker | they didn't pay for it, I assume :) |
| 10:54:22 | tracktheripper | well rockibox is free anywayy |
| 10:55:20 | dwihno | :) |
| 10:55:43 | dwihno | the only good thing about Joaquim's interface is the inverted cursor |
| 10:56:03 | tracktheripper | and the sliders |
| 10:56:03 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 10:57:40 | dwihno | I would prefer the sliders on that cygwin sdk site |
| 10:57:58 | dwihno | If I wasn't so damn lazy, I would have done them already. |
| 10:58:09 | dwihno | But first: inverted cursor ;) |
| 10:58:39 | adi|home | dwihno: for what its worth.. ill be hacking sliders as soon as 2.0 is out... |
| 10:58:56 | adi|home | i have a rudimentary version working now... but not usable at all... |
| 10:59:06 | tracktheripper | Dwihno when do u think ur inverted line will be done? |
| 10:59:10 | tracktheripper | hi Adimas :) |
| 10:59:15 | adi|home | howdy. |
| 10:59:23 | tracktheripper | :D |
| 10:59:54 | adi|home | tracktheripper: as for your question as to why archos doesn't use rockbox i can give you several reasons.. care for me to list? |
| 11:00 |
| 11:00:05 | tracktheripper | yea plz :-) |
| 11:00:33 | dwihno | tracktheripper: hmm, before 2.0, I hope ;) |
| 11:00:42 | adi|home | okay, first off... Rockbox hasn't been fully functional until recentluy |
| 11:00:58 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 11:00:59 | dwihno | adi|home: they look like the ones on that sdk site? |
| 11:01:02 | adi|home | tough sell to get 1.4 on the recorders w/o the ability to record... |
| 11:01:15 | adi|home | dwihno: what sdk site? |
| 11:01:48 | tracktheripper | (: |
| 11:02:14 | adi|home | 2. archos whould have to make a decision to send out a firmware (ours) that is changing rapidly, and was really ready for prime time... |
| 11:02:30 | adi|home | think of the bugs that have been squashed since 1.4 |
| 11:02:36 | adi|home | and finally, the main reason.. |
| 11:02:42 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 11:02:47 | dwihno | adi|home: doom? ); |
| 11:02:48 | dwihno | ;) |
| 11:02:59 | dwihno | adi|home: http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/ somewhere |
| 11:03:28 | adi|home | how do they sell the idea to their investors? namely "we are going with this free software written by random ppl for our players and recorders, but we still need our own programmers for the fm units and the multimedia units." |
| 11:03:40 | tracktheripper | :( |
| 11:03:43 | adi|home | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/graph_sound_digital_sliders3.png |
| 11:03:50 | adi|home | yeah.. that the one im going for... |
| 11:04:04 | tracktheripper | they look great Adidmas |
| 11:04:05 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 11:04:36 | adi|home | those arent my screenshots ;) |
| 11:04:46 | adi|home | those are the artitsts rendering of what he wants :) |
| 11:05:15 | adi|home | but are those reasons good enough :) |
| 11:05:38 | tracktheripper | they still look great though |
| 11:05:40 | adi|home | dont get me wrong.. i _love_ our little baby here.. |
| 11:06:27 | Hes | they'd have to cripple the recording code too, rockbox's code doesn't include support for the S/Pdif copyright/copy bit crap. |
| 11:06:33 | Hes | which is good, and right. |
| 11:06:53 | adi|home | nods |
| 11:07:25 | tracktheripper | Adimas will version 2.0 have an ID3 tag editor as well? |
| 11:07:27 | tracktheripper | please? |
| 11:07:32 | adi|home | now.. i _could_ see archos linking to rockbox as an alternative... esp when they are no longer supporting their units.. |
| 11:07:47 | adi|home | tracktheripper: i oughta hit you :) |
| 11:08:15 | tracktheripper | it was a simple question Adidmas ;-) |
| 11:08:15 | adi|home | sure it could, but i think the lads want that as a 2.1 feature |
| 11:08:21 | adi|home | and im not hacking it :) |
| 11:08:33 | adi|home | i only fool with what i might actually use ;) |
| 11:08:40 | tracktheripper | well I have a version that has an ID3 tag editor in it C/O Quelsaruk |
| 11:08:45 | adi|home | the slider thing is something ive wanted for a while ;) |
| 11:09:50 | adi|home | okay.. nappy-poo sleepy coma time :) |
| 11:10:51 | tracktheripper | :( |
| 11:15:30 | dwihno | adi|home: it will rock, jaa |
| 11:15:38 | dwihno | rick, jaa daa! |
| 11:18:30 | tracktheripper | dwihno will ur inverted line work wiv all the fonts? |
| 11:18:40 | dwihno | tracktheripper: well of course |
| 11:18:56 | dwihno | tracktheripper: otherwise Zagor would kick my ass :( |
| 11:19:04 | Bagder | right, and joaquim's approach doesn't |
| 11:19:33 | Bagder | iirc |
| 11:19:38 | tracktheripper | yea Joquams line doesn't work with all the fonts |
| 11:19:47 | tracktheripper | Zagor has kicked mine so many times :-) |
| 11:19:49 | Bagder | it uses 8 pixels fixed |
| 11:22:49 | dwihno | :) |
| 11:22:53 | dwihno | patch-a-lot |
| 11:23:16 | tracktheripper | dwinhno u never stop smiling :) |
| 11:26:09 | dwihno | Of course |
| 11:26:15 | dwihno | I'm a happy person ^_^ |
| 11:26:18 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 11:26:42 | dwihno | Although I'm having a bad day today |
| 11:27:38 | tracktheripper | awww |
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| 12:15:38 | ciphergoth | shouldn't someone update that Doom page now it's April 2? |
| 12:16:32 | langhaarrocker | proposal: replace the fake with a real doom! |
| 12:18:13 | ciphergoth | a friend suggested that some sort of basic 3D monster maze should be possible... |
| 12:18:43 | langhaarrocker | good old netmaze |
| 12:19:38 | ciphergoth | Looking at photos of a jukebox player... what's the "off" button? |
| 12:19:46 | Zagor | stop |
| 12:20:00 | ciphergoth | ah, thanks... |
| 12:20:29 | ciphergoth | Thinking about this because the Rockbox UI seems weird to me at the moment... |
| 12:20:41 | ciphergoth | I was wondering if that was because it tried to be consistent across players and recorders |
| 12:21:29 | ciphergoth | btw, I meant to say, thanks to you two for your help the other day: 40GB drive fitted and works! |
| 12:22:53 | ciphergoth | Zagor: is that stop==off wired into the hardware BTW? |
| 12:23:02 | Zagor | yes |
| 12:23:49 | ciphergoth | Does that disk have the same up-down-in-out meaning in the directory browser on the Player? |
| 12:25:38 | Zagor | no, they use left/right (+/-) to navigate next/prev |
| 12:26:06 | ciphergoth | aargh! And up = enter directory, down = leave directory? How counterintuitive! |
| 12:26:31 | ciphergoth | I very nearly bought a player, and only bought a recorder in a moment of frivolity. Very glad I did now! |
| 12:28:53 | ciphergoth | OK, so if I wrote a proposal on how the Recorder UI could be made easier and more consistent, I wouldn't have to think about the Player at all? |
| 12:36:26 | Zagor | ciphergoth: you should include the player too. at least enough to not make them differ too much. |
| 12:38:09 | ciphergoth | Zagor: OK. Are there any other hardwired bindings? |
| 12:40:41 | Bagder | bbl |
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| 12:48:08 | Zagor | ciphergoth: in the photos you can see that the player buttons are marked "play" "stop", "+" and "-" |
| 12:48:25 | Zagor | so those can't really be changed |
| 12:48:50 | dwihno | Fa la la |
| 12:48:52 | dwihno | Let's sing! |
| 12:48:54 | dwihno | Sing along kids! |
| 12:49:09 | dwihno | I am a lumberjack and I'm okay, I sleep all night and I work all day ... |
| 12:50:08 | matsl | He's a lumberjack ... |
| 12:56:03 | yoldTAF | is the language file running on archos recorder ? |
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| 13:01:50 | ciphergoth | Zagor: noted |
| 13:02:19 | * | ciphergoth notes that dwihno has achieved a level of music compression that ogg can only dream of |
| 13:15:54 | * | ciphergoth gets the X11 UI simulator working. Rah! |
| 13:16:29 | dwihno | ciphergoth: on windows? |
| 13:16:49 | ciphergoth | dwihno: you're about to go "d'oh!" |
| 13:16:55 | dwihno | nah |
| 13:16:56 | ciphergoth | dwihno: on X11! |
| 13:17:01 | dwihno | more like "boo" :) |
| 13:17:23 | ciphergoth | I fart in the general direction of your weeendows! |
| 13:18:39 | ciphergoth | I've been thinking about how to make Rockbox easier to use, so with this I could code up some ideas... |
| 13:22:25 | dwihno | It IS easy to use |
| 13:24:23 | ciphergoth | I think it could be more consistent. |
| 13:24:30 | ciphergoth | bbiab |
| 13:24:32 | | Nick ciphergoth is now known as ciphergoth|afk (~paul@82-41-211-36.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 13:31:35 | ciphergoth|afk | eg I like the suggestion in the feature requests that a single button cycle through all screens |
| 13:31:39 | | Nick ciphergoth|afk is now known as ciphergoth (~paul@82-41-211-36.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 13:32:46 | langhaarrocker | not good for those who want to control the thing blindly in a pocket while motorcycling. |
| 13:34:21 | ciphergoth | langhaarrocker: how much can you expect to be able to do under such circumstances? |
| 13:34:43 | ciphergoth | adjust volume, start, stop, that's about it surely? |
| 13:36:24 | langhaarrocker | Well cycling through screens isn't an idea that bad. But I think we maybe should try a design where the ui reverts to a standard screen after some time of user-inactivity. |
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| 13:37:16 | langhaarrocker | And then there's that monster that I try to tame without success: user bindable keys. |
| 13:37:43 | ciphergoth | langhaarrocker: I'm wary of such designs; the revert always seems to happen to me just when I'm about to press a key |
| 13:38:23 | ciphergoth | When you say "user bindable", do you mean that the user should be able to change the bindings while on the move, or that there should be a config file format? |
| 13:38:50 | langhaarrocker | config file |
| 13:38:50 | langhaarrocker | I am convinced that there won't be a way around serveral ui disigns in the long run. User requirements differ to much. |
| 13:39:22 | langhaarrocker | bindable keys are one step. The next would be user definable (quick-screen) menus. |
| 13:39:29 | ciphergoth | langhaarrocker: you could be right. What different sorts of users are you thinking of? |
| 13:40:05 | ciphergoth | My current thinking is that all functions can be accessed using only the on, up, down, left, right keys |
| 13:40:08 | ciphergoth | and all other keys are shortcuts |
| 13:40:16 | langhaarrocker | musicians: want to record with one press |
| 13:40:16 | langhaarrocker | road users: want to control blindly |
| 13:40:16 | langhaarrocker | home users: want much info on screen |
| 13:40:27 | ciphergoth | good examples |
| 13:40:50 | * | ciphergoth experiences the joy of random play through three different people's music collections |
| 13:41:19 | langhaarrocker | car users: want litttle info in BIG letters |
| 13:41:44 | ciphergoth | Maybe something where the main five keys always do the same things, but the other keys are rebindable shortcuts? |
| 13:42:11 | Zagor | how can they do the same thing in browser and wps? |
| 13:42:22 | ciphergoth | eg motorcycle user binds the three recorder function keys to pause/resume, volume down, volume up |
| 13:43:00 | Zagor | well those already have dedicated keys :-) |
| 13:43:01 | langhaarrocker | I think in key schemes. The box has states in each of which is assigned to a key scheme where each button is assigned to a function. Pressing a button may change the state. |
| 13:43:03 | ciphergoth | Zagor: I mean that their functions aren't designed to be rebound, not that they do the same in all keys |
| 13:43:30 | ciphergoth | Zagor: not so, in the directory browser there's no direct way to do any of those things. |
| 13:44:32 | langhaarrocker | I've done a lot of code for that already. It's just that this monster is too big for me to tame alone. I'll need help and I lack of time extremely lately. Especially when the wether is so fine that all my time is consumed by paragliding :) |
| 13:44:53 | langhaarrocker | Browser mode and wps would just be different states -> different key schemes. |
| 13:45:27 | Zagor | ciphergoth: nor in tetris, or the text viewer, or the recording screen... |
| 13:46:45 | ciphergoth | I'd forgotten about the text viewer and recording screen. God, there's a lot of states! |
| 13:47:14 | Zagor | and there will be more. we'll add loadable modules soon... |
| 13:47:38 | ciphergoth | Zagor: wow. Real dynamically linking code? wow. |
| 13:47:48 | Zagor | this is not just an mp3 player any more, it's a lot more. we shouldn't treat it as a dumb device |
| 13:47:54 | ciphergoth | How does that square with the "never dynamically allocate" thing? |
| 13:47:56 | Zagor | ciphergoth: yeah |
| 13:48:12 | Zagor | plugins can only be a fixed maximum size |
| 13:49:41 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: don't do the modules stuff too soon, please. I don't have the ressources for that mp3 splitter now. :) |
| 13:49:55 | ciphergoth | langhaarrocker: ? |
| 13:50:07 | Zagor | haha |
| 13:50:38 | langhaarrocker | I started implementing an mp3 split editor about half a year ago. This is to become a loadable module - which is a good excuse why I haven't finished it yet. |
| 13:50:51 | ciphergoth | "split editor"? |
| 13:51:07 | ciphergoth | You mean something to control playing only portions of MP3 files? |
| 13:51:28 | langhaarrocker | Imagine you record a show live and on the way back in the bus you can split the one big large 3 hours file according to the songs. |
| 13:51:53 | langhaarrocker | With the use of a graphical interface similar to mpdirectcut. |
| 13:52:49 | ciphergoth | langhaarrocker: very neat |
| 13:52:57 | ciphergoth | langhaarrocker: but aren't some jobs better done on a home PC? |
| 13:53:57 | langhaarrocker | yes and no. A device that can record mp3 just _must_ have tools for split / join / id3 tags. |
| 13:53:59 | ciphergoth | Incidentally I assume that Tetris etc will become loadable modules |
| 13:54:06 | langhaarrocker | yes |
| 13:54:15 | langhaarrocker | all games and demos should be modules. |
| 13:54:24 | ciphergoth | should save memory |
| 13:54:39 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 13:54:46 | ciphergoth | Does the current CVS include the cooperative threading stuff I read about? |
| 13:54:52 | Zagor | yes |
| 13:54:55 | ciphergoth | cute! |
| 13:55:40 | langhaarrocker | Didn't that exist even before rockbox could playback? :) |
| 13:56:12 | Zagor | yes. we've had it since very early. |
| 13:56:59 | ciphergoth | ah, I assumed that meeting was more recent than it was... |
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| 13:57:29 | ciphergoth | hmm, playlist editor modules... |
| 13:58:15 | langhaarrocker | occasionally discussions pop up again because someone thinks it might be a good idea to have scheduled multithreading and so on. |
| 13:58:25 | ciphergoth | langhaarrocker: to what end? |
| 13:58:40 | langhaarrocker | leave it as it is. "Keep it simple" |
| 13:59:05 | ciphergoth | langhaarrocker: sounds right, I can't imagine why you'd want a real multitasker |
| 13:59:23 | Zagor | the purpose of the timeslice discussion was to make more efficient powersaving. but in the end the current powersave code is deemed good enough |
| 13:59:25 | langhaarrocker | It would be nice to have priorities. |
| 13:59:49 | Zagor | why? you want to run rc5 in the background? ;) |
| 13:59:58 | ciphergoth | langhaarrocker: is it strict round robin at the moment? |
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| 14:00:04 | langhaarrocker | yes |
| 14:00:05 | Bagder | yay rc5-for-rockbox ;-) |
| 14:00:26 | ciphergoth | Is there a new RC5 cracking contest already? |
| 14:00:30 | Bagder | oh yes |
| 14:00:34 | Bagder | been going on for months |
| 14:00:37 | Bagder | 72bit |
| 14:01:00 | Bagder | only some 600000 days left now |
| 14:01:09 | Bagder | :-) |
| 14:01:16 | langhaarrocker | I'm a windows user. What the &§/$" is RC5? |
| 14:01:17 | ciphergoth | 'kinell |
| 14:01:34 | Bagder | langhaarrocker: RC5 is an encryption algo |
| 14:01:34 | ciphergoth | RC5 is a cipher designed by Ron Rivest |
| 14:01:46 | ciphergoth | with an adjustable key size |
| 14:01:54 | Bagder | hey, join team Haxx! ;-) |
| 14:02:04 | Bagder | http://stats.distributed.net/team/tmsummary.php?project_id=8&team=18241 |
| 14:02:17 | ciphergoth | RSA Inc sponsor contests to break the cipher by brute force at just-about-plausible key sizes |
| 14:02:28 | ciphergoth | huge distributed efforts go into attacking the cipher |
| 14:02:48 | ciphergoth | as a result, we get a good idea of what sort of key size is needed for security. |
| 14:03:02 | Schnueff | its just a non-trivial way to waste energy |
| 14:03:06 | langhaarrocker | Why encrypt things when we can turn of scsm? :) |
| 14:03:08 | ciphergoth | At the moment the usual estimate of 80 bits still seems roughly OK |
| 14:03:12 | ciphergoth | scsm? |
| 14:03:23 | Schnueff | scms? |
| 14:03:37 | langhaarrocker | serial copy management system: used by spdif for copy protection. |
| 14:03:55 | * | langhaarrocker can't type |
| 14:04:33 | ciphergoth | Schnueff: the contests do do some good. But the factoring contests seem more important to me |
| 14:05:42 | Bagder | it was a while since the rsa429 |
| 14:07:18 | ciphergoth | RSA512 was broken in 1999 |
| 14:07:40 | Schnueff | it would be good if the results of a distributed computing effort would stand in a relation to the energy used for it |
| 14:08:09 | Schnueff | but its hard to judge this |
| 14:08:15 | langhaarrocker | That's just a point of view |
| 14:08:42 | Schnueff | yeah, i didnt declare it as the absolute truth :) |
| 14:09:07 | langhaarrocker | I'm convinced that the average joe considers programming rockbox as a complete waste of time, too. |
| 14:09:36 | Schnueff | time != energy |
| 14:10:07 | langhaarrocker | hm. Do I need more time/energy or more energy/time? |
| 14:10:38 | ciphergoth | anyway, got to go eat, see y'all, and thanks once again for your help! |
| 14:10:51 | langhaarrocker | :) |
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| 14:12:27 | langhaarrocker | what is ata the abbreviation for? |
| 14:12:49 | Schnueff | {Advanced Technology Attachment} |
| 14:13:20 | langhaarrocker | Interesting name for a hd interface. |
| 14:13:42 | Schnueff | yeah but seems to be right |
| 14:14:21 | langhaarrocker | From the words I'd have assumed some mime improvement. |
| 14:14:52 | Schnueff | {Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions} |
| 14:14:54 | Schnueff | :) |
| 14:15:12 | quelsaruk | Schnueff is our pocket translator ;) |
| 14:15:23 | Bagder | that's useful ;-) |
| 14:15:29 | langhaarrocker | Pocket = Hosentasche |
| 14:15:32 | Schnueff | btw, quelsaruk, what did u translate crossfader to? |
| 14:15:37 | Schnueff | :) |
| 14:15:45 | >>> | "pass" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 14:15:46 | quelsaruk | crossfader == crossfader |
| 14:15:58 | Schnueff | spanish is easy |
| 14:15:58 | >>> | "expadd ATA=Short for "Advanced Technology Attachment"." by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 14:16:07 | quelsaruk | elevacion y disminucion progrseiva del volumen en mitad de algo |
| 14:16:08 | Bagder | hehe |
| 14:16:25 | Zagor | interestingly, the ATA spec never spells out the AT part. it always talks about "AT Attachment" |
| 14:16:27 | quelsaruk | i think spanish is as short as english ;) |
| 14:16:58 | Schnueff | AT maybe comes from IBM PC AT |
| 14:17:01 | yoldTAF | i have a little pb when i try to change laguage drom my archos recorder |
| 14:17:17 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: they probably would have mentioned it if they didn't forget what it's for. They don't have a Schnueff. |
| 14:17:27 | Zagor | hehe |
| 14:17:31 | Schnueff | heh |
| 14:17:33 | yoldTAF | i "play" the .lng but nothing change |
| 14:17:38 | #>> | "explain ATA for us!" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 14:17:45 | * | Bagder grins |
| 14:17:45 | Schnueff | wow |
| 14:18:10 | Bagder | uh, ok, I admit, I cheated I added that just now ;-) |
| 14:18:15 | langhaarrocker | how do you ask logbot things? |
| 14:18:22 | quelsaruk | Bagder: you should say "Schnueff explain ATA for us!" |
| 14:18:31 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 14:18:46 | Bagder | langhaarrocker: you need to have an "account" on it with a high enough status level |
| 14:18:47 | quelsaruk | yoldTAF: nothing? that's strange |
| 14:19:00 | langhaarrocker | Bagder: :( |
| 14:19:00 | dwihno | logbot explain snafu for Bagder |
| 14:19:16 | >>> | "cmd useradd" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 14:19:26 | >>> | "help useradd" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 14:19:31 | yoldTAF | perhaps the file wasn't successfull tranfered on the archos |
| 14:19:38 | yoldTAF | i will try again |
| 14:20:06 | quelsaruk | you must see a small windoze saying "new language" in your language :) |
| 14:20:26 | >>> | "useradd langhaarrocker 20" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 14:20:28 | quelsaruk | but we don't have yet a usb mouse to close that window :P |
| 14:20:54 | yoldTAF | lol |
| 14:21:17 | >>> | "ey" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-017.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:21:27 | >>> | "cmd" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-017.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:21:53 | >>> | "-logbot- explain ata" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-017.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:22:43 | >>> | "-logbot- CMD explain ata" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-017.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:22:52 | >>> | "explain ata" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-017.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:23:02 | quelsaruk | Bagder: you should change the topic, no? |
| 14:23:31 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 14:23:39 | langhaarrocker | funny: logbot speaks with me! |
| 14:24:16 | quelsaruk | O_o! |
| 14:24:21 | quelsaruk | does he speak? |
| 14:24:23 | Topic | "Rockbox - improves your Archos" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 14:24:36 | >>> | "useradd quelsaruk 20" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 14:24:56 | langhaarrocker | quelsaruk: only when asked. |
| 14:25:00 | >>> | "CMD" by quelsaruk (~swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 14:25:27 | quelsaruk | that's a good point of view |
| 14:25:29 | >>> | "help" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-017.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:25:49 | >>> | "cmd" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-017.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:26:05 | >>> | "help kicklist" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-017.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:26:29 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: that's a big honour ;) |
| 14:27:25 | >>> | "help newpass" by quelsaruk (~swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 14:27:37 | langhaarrocker | He even seems to be capable to answer in different words then: "Määähhhh!" |
| 14:27:48 | >>> | "help pass" by quelsaruk (~swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 14:27:59 | >>> | "pass" used by quelsaruk (~swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) [snoop prevented] |
| 14:28:15 | >>> | "kicklist" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-017.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:28:26 | >>> | "newpass" used by quelsaruk (~swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) [snoop prevented] |
| 14:30:45 | >>> | "cmd" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-017.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:32:48 | | Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|lunch (~swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 14:32:51 | quel|lunch | u l8r |
| 14:32:58 | quel|lunch | *cu |
| 14:33:01 | langhaarrocker | cu |
| 14:34:01 | yoldTAF | there is a mistake on francais.lng with rockbox-1.4-recorder.zip |
| 14:34:20 | yoldTAF | loudness: opimisation des basses ==> optimisation des basses |
| 14:34:24 | yoldTAF | the "p" is missing ;) |
| 14:34:28 | Zagor | yoldTAF: is it still present in daily builds? |
| 14:34:48 | yoldTAF | perhaps cvs resolv that |
| 14:35:00 | yoldTAF | your work is really perfect |
| 14:35:17 | langhaarrocker | ok. Then we can stop and freeze the project. |
| 14:35:21 | yoldTAF | i juste prevent you for this little spell checking on stable version ;) |
| 14:38:43 | Zagor | yoldTAF: check here to see if it's fixed: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/rockbox/apps/lang/francais.lang?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup |
| 14:39:18 | yoldTAF | ok :) |
| 14:40:01 | yoldTAF | yes it fixed ;) |
| 14:52:45 | Bagder | I modified the doom page now |
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| 15:17:28 | langhaarrocker | doom still doesn't work. |
| 15:17:43 | Zagor | it doesn't? |
| 15:18:24 | dwihno | :-( |
| 15:18:25 | langhaarrocker | no. It just turns on the red led, music stops and the ui is inactive. |
| 15:18:32 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 15:18:37 | Zagor | ah, that's intentional |
| 15:18:44 | Zagor | to protect you from RSI |
| 15:18:49 | langhaarrocker | lol |
| 15:19:13 | Zagor | you may think you don't need it, but Rockbox knows better |
| 15:19:20 | Zagor | It's For Your Own Good |
| 15:19:59 | Bagder | RPYFY - Rockbox Protects You From Yourself |
| 15:20:37 | langhaarrocker | And I thought you should make the monsters smaller. When they burst out in a stompede the rockbox rocks to much which shakes the hd -> red led death. |
| 15:24:39 | langhaarrocker | (-sarcasm on-) what about an iraq level (-sarcasm off-) |
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| 16:07:15 | Nomad__ | morning all |
| 16:07:22 | langhaarrocker | haha |
| 16:14:20 | | Nick quel|lunch is now known as quelsaruk (~swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 16:15:04 | quelsaruk | have i read something about protecting me from myself? |
| 16:15:07 | quelsaruk | is that possible? |
| 16:15:18 | langhaarrocker | use a goat :) |
| 16:15:51 | quelsaruk | that helps only with archos and computers, not with me :( |
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| 16:35:36 | OnoSendai | yo : ) |
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| 16:42:25 | quelsaruk | hi OnoSendai, edx :) |
| 16:42:39 | OnoSendai | : ) how goes it? |
| 16:42:44 | edx | hi |
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| 17:01:55 | quel|out | bbl |
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| 17:09:51 | OnoSendai | bbl |
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| 17:31:44 | TBoy | hoi |
| 17:32:38 | TBoy | alot of people fell for the doom trick |
| 17:33:21 | quel|out | which is the difference between stereo narrow and stereo wide? |
| 17:33:54 | quel|out | (in spanish we don't have that kind of "gay" definitions) ;) |
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| 17:42:47 | quel|out | dwihno: any idea? |
| 17:42:58 | quel|out | edx? elinenbe? anyone alive? |
| 17:43:46 | dwihno | quel|out: which what who where? |
| 17:44:41 | quel|out | :P |
| 17:45:43 | quel|out | i need to translate stereo narrow and stereo wide, but in spanish we don't have that kind of definitions :( |
| 17:45:49 | dwihno | erhm |
| 17:45:52 | dwihno | retards ;) |
| 17:46:00 | dwihno | <−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−- wide −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−-> |
| 17:46:03 | dwihno | <- narrow -> |
| 17:46:05 | dwihno | :) |
| 17:46:05 | quel|out | umm |
| 17:46:10 | quel|out | i know that :P |
| 17:46:13 | Schnueff | heh |
| 17:46:43 | dwihno | I've missed two bytes out of 96, so I need to read that hex dump again *paahÄ |
| 17:47:06 | quel|out | now i understand why our empire went just to germany.... swedish are too, ummmhh... paranoic ;) |
| 17:47:21 | Schnueff | hex dump reading? |
| 17:47:38 | quel|out | dwihno: estereo amplio sounds... really gay in spanish :( |
| 17:47:56 | Schnueff | TVs and such could have such a setting too |
| 17:48:46 | quel|out | i'm poor, i only have stereo on my tv |
| 17:48:47 | quel|out | ;) |
| 17:49:07 | quel|out | no 5.1 or 6.1 :) |
| 17:55:49 | quel|out | well.. i've translated all english.lang to spanish. People's gonna kill me for my translations. |
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| 18:07:34 | quelsaruk | re |
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| 18:41:59 | quelsaruk | hi zagor |
| 18:55:01 | Zagor | hi |
| 18:57:55 | quelsaruk | could you repair a mess i've done in sourceforge?? |
| 18:58:13 | quelsaruk | i'm a dissaster, i know |
| 18:58:24 | Zagor | mess? |
| 18:58:51 | quelsaruk | there are 2 espanol.lang ver. 15. patches |
| 18:59:02 | quelsaruk | and only one of them has an atached file |
| 18:59:04 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 18:59:19 | quelsaruk | i did it only once |
| 18:59:21 | quelsaruk | i swear |
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| 19:01:09 | * | quelsaruk fears zagor's response |
| 19:01:30 | Zagor | can't you remove your own patch? |
| 19:01:49 | Zagor | I don't know what people can or cannot do, since I can do everything :-) |
| 19:01:53 | quelsaruk | i don't think so |
| 19:02:00 | quelsaruk | i've tried once |
| 19:02:07 | Zagor | ok. i'll fix it, don't worry |
| 19:02:16 | quelsaruk | thx :) |
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| 19:11:45 | Kelt | hello |
| 19:11:51 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 19:12:22 | Kelt | is it a forum about Archos mp3 players ? |
| 19:13:18 | quelsaruk | um... this channel? or are you asking if there is a forum about archos mp3 players?? |
| 19:13:52 | Kelt | yes sorry I mean is this a channel about Archos mp3 player ? |
| 19:15:22 | quelsaruk | is about rockbox, an alternative firmware for archos mp3 players, and of course you can ask anything about archos mp3 player :) |
| 19:15:30 | quelsaruk | maybe someone can answer you |
| 19:15:40 | Kelt | ok |
| 19:16:33 | Kelt | I have a Archos Judebox Multimedia 20 and I broke the little light tube used for the backlight system I would like to know if I can find that coponent ? |
| 19:17:27 | quelsaruk | uff |
| 19:17:30 | quelsaruk | i dunno |
| 19:17:39 | quelsaruk | i just have a jukebox recorder |
| 19:18:01 | Kelt | I think it is the same back light system |
| 19:18:31 | quelsaruk | ummm |
| 19:18:32 | quelsaruk | dunno |
| 19:18:34 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 19:18:35 | Kelt | do u know a forum where I could ask for that ? |
| 19:18:39 | quelsaruk | have you asked archos?? |
| 19:18:50 | Kelt | yes I asked them |
| 19:19:17 | Kelt | and they ssaid me that I have to send my player back and pay the repairing |
| 19:19:26 | quelsaruk | normally here are some hardware gurus, but i don't know if you can find spare components and if replacing that led is easy or difficult :( |
| 19:19:47 | Kelt | I know taht replacing that led is easy |
| 19:20:06 | Kelt | I just need to find where to buy it |
| 19:20:58 | quelsaruk | i can only imagin in some kind of electronic compounds shop |
| 19:21:19 | quelsaruk | i know that you can change the leds on the mobiles, so.... |
| 19:21:30 | quelsaruk | good luck :) |
| 19:22:51 | Kelt | ok thx |
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| 19:34:22 | fred84752 | hi guys |
| 19:34:54 | fred84752 | Does anyone know the key strokes for activating the hold function? I am using the latest bleeding edge firmware |
| 19:36:47 | quelsaruk | umm |
| 19:36:55 | quelsaruk | it was ON+Down |
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| 19:37:08 | quelsaruk | i think |
| 19:37:56 | fred84752 | It always goes to the "pitch" function |
| 19:38:22 | fred84752 | if I press on+down |
| 19:39:34 | quelsaruk | umm |
| 19:39:40 | quelsaruk | F1+down then?? |
| 19:39:52 | fred84752 | Hey, thats it |
| 19:39:54 | fred84752 | thanks man |
| 19:39:56 | quelsaruk | i:) |
| 19:40:01 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 19:41:44 | fred84752 | bye |
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| 19:42:10 | adam | 'improves' is a bit of a misnomer |
| 19:42:36 | adam | more like, 'sanctifies', or 'cleanses' of the sin of crappy firmware |
| 19:43:54 | quelsaruk | Schnueff: what did ATA mean? |
| 19:44:02 | quelsaruk | (so i don't have to ask logbot) |
| 19:44:09 | adam | heh |
| 19:45:20 | adam | ADvanced Tech Attachment, IIRC |
| 19:45:40 | adam | yet another name for IDE |
| 19:45:49 | quelsaruk | thx adam :) |
| 19:46:26 | adam | I want Serial ATA, personally |
| 19:46:48 | adam | in my next box, sure :p |
| 19:46:48 | quelsaruk | Sata-150 ? |
| 19:46:50 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 19:46:57 | adam | not specifically for speed |
| 19:47:00 | adam | but speed is an issue |
| 19:47:04 | adam | really, more for cleanliness of case |
| 19:47:14 | adam | get alot more crammed in there |
| 19:47:23 | quelsaruk | i suppose so |
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| 20:00:13 | Zagor | Kelt: the backlight is different for the multimedia. most of us here just have the mp3 players. |
| 20:01:11 | quelsaruk | Zagor: for the features comparison chart |
| 20:01:27 | quelsaruk | archos has only german, english and french |
| 20:01:30 | quelsaruk | 3 languages |
| 20:01:33 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 20:02:01 | quelsaruk | even when they say that they support spanish and portuguese |
| 20:04:27 | Zagor | right |
| 20:34:01 | PsycoXul | "You should sell goats." |
| 20:34:12 | * | PsycoXul wonders if some particular person in here posted that on thinkgeek's feedback |
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| 20:43:40 | adam | ? |
| 20:43:46 | adam | PsycoXul - feedback for? |
| 20:44:08 | PsycoXul | uh thinkgeek |
| 20:44:18 | adam | heh, I was thinking some specific product |
| 20:44:42 | PsycoXul | i don't think they have per-product feedback |
| 20:44:42 | PsycoXul | heh |
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| 22:14:27 | TBoy | guys |
| 22:14:48 | TBoy | what build should "one" pick if he had a FM with 8MB |
| 22:17:02 | TBoy | well nevermind don't have one anyway |
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| 22:41:37 | bmidy | hi all |
| 22:42:13 | bmidy | is there some news about the bookmark patch ? will it be included in the 2.0 , and when will be releaqsesd the 20 |
| 22:42:16 | bmidy | is there some news about the bookmark patch ? will it be included in the 2.0 , and when will be releaqsesd the 2.0 |
| 22:42:23 | bmidy | thanks for your answer |
| 22:42:51 | PsycoXul | probably not, and no idea? |
| 22:43:15 | bmidy | PsycoXul: why not ? |
| 22:43:40 | PsycoXul | cause it's been feature-frozen for 2.0 for a while now afaik |
| 22:44:00 | PsycoXul | which means no new major new features going into the cvs untill after 2.0 |
| 22:44:27 | PsycoXul | god 4x burning is slow... heh |
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| 23:46:48 | adam | panopticon! |
| 23:46:59 | * | adam reads a Baudillard essay |
| 23:47:07 | adam | rillard, my bad |
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