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| 00:44:57 | BoD[] | hellow! |
| 00:45:01 | LinusN | yo |
| 00:45:39 | BoD[] | hey LinuN do you have java on your box ? :) |
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| 00:46:33 | LinusN | no |
| 00:46:42 | BoD[] | arf |
| 00:46:50 | BoD[] | I have a preview of the "WPS designer" :) |
| 00:46:52 | LinusN | you wanted me to test your applet? |
| 00:47:00 | BoD[] | yep |
| 00:50:02 | BoD[] | but you should install Java ! It's goood ;) |
| 00:51:05 | BoD[] | hey is there somewhere the current default recorder WPS ? |
| 00:51:23 | BoD[] | because I believe the one on the doc page is not up to date |
| 00:54:20 | LinusN | %s%?it<%?in<%in. |>%it|%fn> |
| 00:54:20 | LinusN | %s%?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(root)>> |
| 00:54:20 | LinusN | %s%?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(root)>> %?iy<(%iy)|> |
| 00:54:20 | LinusN | %pc/%pt [%pp:%pe] |
| 00:54:20 | LinusN | %fbkBit %?fv<avg|> %?iv<(id3v%iv)|(no id3)> |
| 00:54:20 | LinusN | %pb |
| 00:54:24 | LinusN | %pm |
| 00:57:56 | BoD[] | thank you :) |
| 00:58:58 | BoD[] | well .. i have %? problems :( |
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| 01:00:12 | LinusN | how? |
| 01:00:25 | LinusN | hard to visualize? |
| 01:00:42 | BoD[] | no parsing problems |
| 01:01:37 | LinusN | how? |
| 01:03:30 | BoD[] | well my code is just not good:) |
| 01:03:40 | BoD[] | it doesn't work with nested %? |
| 01:04:01 | BoD[] | I'll try to figure what's wrong |
| 01:04:01 | LinusN | check out skip_conditional() in wps-display.c |
| 01:04:26 | BoD[] | ok |
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| 01:08:11 | midknight2k3 | Hey. Do you have any idea when the final 2.0 will be out? |
| 01:08:16 | LinusN | yes |
| 01:08:35 | midknight2k3 | When about, could you tell me? |
| 01:08:46 | LinusN | when it's done, that's when |
| 01:09:01 | midknight2k3 | oh goody thanks a lot :P |
| 01:09:17 | LinusN | why is everybody so obsessed with 2.0, when the daily builds have the same functionality? |
| 01:09:36 | midknight2k3 | I don't know, it's just that it's 2.0 |
| 01:09:38 | BoD[] | yeah that's strange |
| 01:09:43 | midknight2k3 | It's a final release version |
| 01:09:49 | LinusN | final? |
| 01:09:56 | midknight2k3 | Not really but it's 2.0 |
| 01:10:04 | midknight2k3 | never mind - no idea |
| 01:10:06 | LinusN | 2.0 is very close now |
| 01:10:24 | LinusN | it should be out early next week, if everything goes as planned |
| 01:10:31 | midknight2k3 | Wow cool |
| 01:11:05 | LinusN | we need to translate to as many languages as possible, and update the docs |
| 01:11:12 | LinusN | and test the latest bug fixes |
| 01:11:13 | midknight2k3 | Oh about the switchable fonts |
| 01:11:33 | midknight2k3 | Could you make a .fnt file out of a .ttf file? |
| 01:11:44 | midknight2k3 | like a regular windows font |
| 01:11:56 | LinusN | you need to create a .bdf font first |
| 01:12:07 | midknight2k3 | i don |
| 01:12:08 | LinusN | most font editors can do that |
| 01:12:15 | midknight2k3 | know how to do tha |
| 01:12:34 | midknight2k3 | What do you use for an editor? |
| 01:12:50 | LinusN | last time i edited a font i used pfaedit |
| 01:12:51 | PsycoXul | xmbdfed |
| 01:12:56 | PsycoXul | is what i've used in the past |
| 01:13:36 | LinusN | pfaedit sucked at using the TTF hints though (patent restrictions) |
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| 01:14:24 | LinusN | i don't know of any free font editor that handles TTF hints well |
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| 01:15:01 | midknight2k3 | oops |
| 01:15:19 | midknight2k3 | what i was going to say was, you have to complie the source code for pfaedit? |
| 01:15:30 | LinusN | i guess |
| 01:15:41 | midknight2k3 | do you have the exe? |
| 01:16:01 | LinusN | it's not a windows program |
| 01:16:26 | midknight2k3 | oh crap |
| 01:16:58 | LinusN | pfaedit sucks at using the TTF hints though (patent restrictions) |
| 01:17:37 | LinusN | you can run it in windows though |
| 01:17:43 | LinusN | using cygwin |
| 01:18:36 | midknight2k3 | so |
| 01:18:45 | midknight2k3 | cygwin can run any unix program on windows? |
| 01:19:00 | LinusN | no |
| 01:19:17 | LinusN | it can compile abd run quite a lot of unix programs |
| 01:19:19 | midknight2k3 | what will it do then? |
| 01:19:37 | LinusN | you need to compile it with cygwin first |
| 01:19:57 | midknight2k3 | any ideas for a windows program that can do ttf -> fnt? |
| 01:20:24 | LinusN | there are lots of commercial ones, but i don't know of any free ones |
| 01:20:39 | midknight2k3 | oh well |
| 01:20:44 | midknight2k3 | doesn't really matter |
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| 01:24:57 | LinusN | the windows world is so obsessed with money |
| 01:25:12 | LinusN | every tiny hack is shareware |
| 01:25:18 | LinusN | no source code |
| 01:25:52 | LinusN | countless MineSweeper clones for only $25 shareware fee |
| 01:43:16 | BoD[] | true |
| 01:46:16 | LinusN | i'm not saying that people should work for free, but trying to make money of every tiny VB hack is insanely greedy imho |
| 01:48:45 | LinusN | time to sleep |
| 01:48:47 | LinusN | nite |
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| 02:08:34 | tracktheripper | wheres LinusN? |
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| 07:56:08 | billytwowilly | hi, I'm trying to transfer a large amount of mp3s off of my archos jukebox 6000 and I'm having vast amounts of trouble. the transfer keeps freezing up and then I get a bunch of zombie processes and have to reboot. any ideas? |
| 07:56:18 | billytwowilly | I'm running mandrake 9.1 |
| 07:56:28 | billytwowilly | and I checked the faq and didn't find anything. |
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| 08:12:13 | TBoy | hoi |
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| 08:58:34 | Bagder | aaargh |
| 08:58:44 | Bagder | rockbox doesn't boot and I start into archos! |
| 08:58:48 | Bagder | uuuuuuh |
| 08:58:52 | Bagder | paaaiin |
| 08:59:17 | Bagder | that'll teach me to check before I leave home |
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| 09:02:51 | dwihno | :-( |
| 09:03:03 | * | dwihno sends Bagder some gammaldags vaniljglass. |
| 09:03:10 | Bagder | ah, thanks! |
| 09:03:50 | dwihno | It's the really good stuff :) |
| 09:03:54 | dwihno | I ate some this saturday |
| 09:05:07 | dwihno | I have a question for YOU :) |
| 09:05:13 | Bagder | try me |
| 09:06:14 | dwihno | Two things actually |
| 09:06:25 | dwihno | lcd_puts and lcd_puts scroll... |
| 09:06:44 | dwihno | I copied those functions and applied the needed stuff to invert the data |
| 09:06:56 | dwihno | named them lcd_puts_invert and lcd_puts_invert |
| 09:07:16 | dwihno | As far as I can see, there are one a couple of things that could be done |
| 09:07:57 | dwihno | lcd_puts COULD have an invert flag (instead of a separate function) |
| 09:08:19 | dwihno | Likewise with lcd_puts_scroll, but then we need additional code to clear the invert flag when it isn't wanted. |
| 09:09:55 | dwihno | (unless you think it's sexy to have inverted scrolls in the WPS) ;) |
| 09:10:01 | dwihno | It looks a bit funky though :) |
| 09:10:49 | dwihno | So what do you think Bagder? |
| 09:11:29 | Bagder | what is the question again? :-) |
| 09:11:42 | Bagder | where the flag would go? |
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| 09:14:26 | dwihno | Well, lcd_puts could have an additional argument to set the invert flag |
| 09:14:34 | dwihno | but that would break stuff since players won't do that. |
| 09:14:52 | Bagder | and it would basicly only be used in the dir browser, right? |
| 09:15:04 | dwihno | and the menu |
| 09:15:06 | dwihno | settings |
| 09:15:09 | Bagder | ah, right |
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| 09:17:30 | Bagder | I would vote for a new function, lcd_puts_emph() |
| 09:17:42 | | Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:17:43 | Bagder | that if the flag is set, makes the line reversed |
| 09:17:57 | Zagor | why not _rev() then? |
| 09:18:03 | Zagor | _emph() sounds like bold to me |
| 09:18:24 | Bagder | because it allows us to add other options in the future without getting a weird function name |
| 09:18:37 | dwihno | what about _invert? |
| 09:18:39 | Bagder | ok, lcd_puts_cursor() then perhaps |
| 09:18:42 | Bagder | nah |
| 09:18:48 | dwihno | since we have invertrect functions and stuff |
| 09:19:05 | Bagder | I just thought that what if we want the cursor line bolded instead of reverted in 2.1? |
| 09:19:30 | Bagder | it would thus make sense to use a generic name |
| 09:20:13 | Bagder | Zagor: I read your recent debian q, and you sure got a weirdo answer I didn't like |
| 09:20:40 | Zagor | yeah |
| 09:20:51 | Bagder | I couldn't find any answers in those links he pointed out |
| 09:20:53 | Zagor | i'm digging further |
| 09:21:19 | Zagor | i've posted to debian-devel now |
| 09:21:56 | Bagder | I spotted a rockbox question in alt.music.mp3 the other day! ;-) |
| 09:22:42 | Zagor | hehe |
| 09:23:14 | Bagder | I do google newsgroups a lot ;-) |
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| 09:23:54 | Bagder | hi |
| 09:23:57 | LinusN | yo |
| 09:25:20 | Bagder | I built a new rockbox this morning, copied it to my archos and when I got to work, it boots up in... archos fm! ;-O |
| 09:25:41 | LinusN | huh? |
| 09:25:50 | Bagder | terrible way to start a week |
| 09:26:22 | LinusN | that sucks |
| 09:26:29 | dwihno | So what should I do? |
| 09:26:33 | dwihno | rename the functions? |
| 09:26:47 | LinusN | Bagder: too big file? |
| 09:26:58 | dwihno | Yeah, the file is probably too big! |
| 09:27:02 | Bagder | LinusN: possibly, its a bit hard to tell like this |
| 09:27:06 | dwihno | Scramble should have some kind of alert for that. |
| 09:27:06 | LinusN | ouch |
| 09:27:18 | dwihno | if (filesize > magic_limit) barf(); |
| 09:27:19 | LinusN | dwihno: good idea |
| 09:27:22 | Bagder | indeed, scramble should alert |
| 09:27:28 | dwihno | Yay for me! |
| 09:27:37 | dwihno | Now tell me what to do about those invert stuff :) |
| 09:27:45 | LinusN | Bagder: does the daily build script rebuild the tools as well? |
| 09:28:06 | Bagder | I think so... I'll check |
| 09:29:03 | Bagder | no |
| 09:29:43 | Bagder | I'll make sure it'll do that in the future |
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| 09:31:10 | dwihno | So what about the lcd_puts_invert & lcd_puts_scroll_invert? :) |
| 09:31:11 | Bagder | the cvs status/bleeding edge script does |
| 09:35:22 | * | dwihno feels ignored |
| 09:35:36 | Bagder | didn't I state my opinion? |
| 09:36:35 | dwihno | emph |
| 09:36:40 | dwihno | _emph, even... |
| 09:36:52 | dwihno | But what kind of arguments should it take? |
| 09:37:15 | dwihno | A char or an int with flags indicating what fancy stuff you want to do |
| 09:37:38 | Bagder | no, I would think the fancy stuff would be config options |
| 09:37:40 | Bagder | like this: |
| 09:38:03 | Bagder | lcd_puts_fancy() { if(inverse_please) lcd_puts_inverse() else lcd_puts(): } |
| 09:38:12 | dwihno | ah |
| 09:38:15 | dwihno | you are so true |
| 09:38:18 | dwihno | Some kind of wrapper thingy |
| 09:38:22 | dwihno | I will fix that. |
| 09:38:23 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:38:28 | dwihno | :-) |
| 09:38:33 | dwihno | You are good at explaining :-) |
| 09:38:44 | Bagder | that way, you can have a plain #define to get the player version without any overhead |
| 09:39:05 | Bagder | #ifdef PLAYERDUDE #define lcd_puts_fancy(x,y) lcd_puts(x,y) #endif |
| 09:40:07 | dwihno | players can't do fancy stuff |
| 09:40:27 | dwihno | Ditch rocklatin and make fancy stuff instead ;D |
| 09:40:38 | Bagder | haha |
| 09:41:44 | dwihno | Is it okay to have the _invert functions and then wrapping them? |
| 09:41:57 | dwihno | so lcd_puts_scroll_invert and lcd_puts_invert can stay? |
| 09:42:06 | dwihno | in the future, we might have lcd_puts_bold |
| 09:42:30 | dwihno | and lcd_puts_slant |
| 09:42:36 | Bagder | yes, I think so |
| 09:42:53 | Bagder | and lcd_puts_3drotating() |
| 09:42:56 | dwihno | :-D |
| 09:44:19 | dwihno | lcd_puts_emph should be a recorder-only thingy then. |
| 09:44:50 | Bagder | but you can use a macro-thing as I showed above to hide that fact in the code |
| 09:45:55 | dwihno | I think lcd_puts_emph will be good. Then just using an if (global_settings.invert_cursor) |
| 09:46:07 | dwihno | to determine the invert status |
| 09:46:08 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:46:09 | dwihno | will be good, ja. |
| 09:46:31 | dwihno | Dat will be goot, da. |
| 09:47:40 | dwihno | *fix* |
| 09:49:07 | dwihno | writing comments is fun :- |
| 09:49:07 | dwihno | :) |
| 09:52:40 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 09:54:30 | LinusN | ok, now we need to trim some code space |
| 09:54:44 | LinusN | the easy way is of course to kill a demo |
| 09:54:55 | dwihno | yes |
| 09:54:56 | dwihno | and the games |
| 09:55:11 | Zagor | kill snow |
| 09:55:14 | dwihno | before 2.0, the games should be modules! :) |
| 09:55:17 | dwihno | ;-) |
| 09:55:18 | LinusN | does today's daily build work? |
| 09:55:31 | LinusN | or is that one too big as well? |
| 09:56:12 | Bagder | no it isn't too big |
| 09:56:19 | Bagder | Content-Length: 201958 |
| 09:56:23 | LinusN | Bagder: 2.4.21-pre6 fixed my USB problems |
| 09:56:29 | Bagder | c00l! |
| 09:56:46 | Bagder | I wonder why my image got so big |
| 09:57:00 | LinusN | i gues it depends on the compiler version |
| 09:57:14 | Bagder | ah, right |
| 09:57:16 | LinusN | or maybe your transfer failed |
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| 10:01:49 | langhaarrocker | Hi Linus! vbrfix worx now fine without crashing. :) |
| 10:03:04 | dwihno | langhaar :D |
| 10:03:16 | dwihno | Deine haar sind so lang! |
| 10:03:34 | dwihno | oder ist das vielleicht ihre-etwas la la. |
| 10:05:14 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: great! |
| 10:07:25 | langhaarrocker | dwihno: I'm seriously thinking about shortenig my hair. Just waiting for better temperatures. |
| 10:08:20 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: me too |
| 10:08:34 | LinusN | shorthairrocker? naaah :-) |
| 10:08:40 | dwihno | :-) |
| 10:09:09 | langhaarrocker | Linus: I promise to wear a tupet in irc then. |
| 10:11:00 | LinusN | lol |
| 10:11:10 | dwihno | Hmm. How should I do if there is no global_settings available? |
| 10:11:24 | LinusN | include "settings.h" |
| 10:11:55 | dwihno | even in firmware/drivers? |
| 10:12:07 | dwihno | sounds like a no-no to me |
| 10:12:20 | langhaarrocker | dwihno: what are you working on? |
| 10:12:29 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: Just some modifications to the invert cursor stuff |
| 10:13:09 | LinusN | dwihno: settings are not visible to the firmware |
| 10:13:35 | dwihno | LinusN: that's what I mean with a no-no :) |
| 10:13:48 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: I got a build you can test at dw.lahma.net/rockbox |
| 10:13:52 | Bagder | that would be a no-no, yes |
| 10:14:07 | dwihno | No, Bagder, a no-no, not a yes! :) |
| 10:14:09 | langhaarrocker | Why do you want to handle settings in the drivers? Shouldnt the drivers provide only an api for displaying inverted stuff? |
| 10:14:27 | Bagder | oh no, a no-no! |
| 10:14:30 | dwihno | :D |
| 10:14:50 | dwihno | I think I'll skip the lcd_puts_emph |
| 10:14:57 | dwihno | or should it be in misc.c? |
| 10:15:14 | Bagder | it must be put in apps at least |
| 10:15:15 | dwihno | /* fancy string routine (future use: bold, slant, 3d rotating etc.) */ |
| 10:15:35 | dwihno | nice comment, huh ? ;D |
| 10:17:20 | langhaarrocker | 3d rotating? Has someone discovered the openGL coprocessor of the lcd? |
| 10:22:21 | dwihno | Yes :) |
| 10:22:39 | dwihno | Hardware acceleration |
| 10:22:42 | dwihno | Very nice |
| 10:24:10 | dwihno | How about putting it in widgets.c? |
| 10:25:44 | dwihno | <LinusN> Yes, widgets.c will be nice. Don't forget starka såsen. |
| 10:38:54 | dwihno | I see an erroneous link on the website. in /docs, "How to make a custom config file" points to the wps config info |
| 10:41:09 | Zagor | blame bagder :-) |
| 10:41:48 | * | dwihno blames Zagor (Bagder has always told me to do this) |
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| 10:47:45 | Zagor | LinusN: nice bug squashing morning |
| 10:54:23 | LinusN | thx |
| 10:54:46 | LinusN | busy weekend |
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| 10:59:16 | * | dwihno likes CVS commits :) |
| 10:59:25 | nevs | hello |
| 10:59:30 | nevs | hi |
| 10:59:32 | Bagder | hi |
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| 11:00:24 | nevs | what does the latest firmware for the player include? |
| 11:00:32 | LinusN | everything :-) |
| 11:00:38 | nevs | like what |
| 11:00:47 | LinusN | compared to what? |
| 11:00:48 | Bagder | try it |
| 11:00:49 | nevs | is there address where it lists it |
| 11:00:50 | NHeal | sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 11:00:50 | NJoin | adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-70.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
| 11:00:50 | NJoin | _seb_ [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 11:00:50 | NJoin | dwihno [0] (dwihno@193.180.246.67) |
| 11:00:50 | NJoin | adam [0] (~adam@c-24-118-131-171.mn.client2.attbi.com) |
| 11:00:50 | NJoin | adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) |
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| 11:01:23 | LinusN | no, there is no "this is new" list |
| 11:01:29 | LinusN | yet |
| 11:04:10 | Zagor | actually the release notes are written already |
| 11:04:18 | LinusN | wow |
| 11:04:30 | Zagor | http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/rockbox-2.0-notes.txt |
| 11:04:38 | Zagor | yell if i missed something |
| 11:05:13 | LinusN | "Improved handling of broken VBR files", is that VBRFix? |
| 11:05:46 | Zagor | no |
| 11:06:04 | Zagor | don't we also have some way of figuring out vbr files without xing header now? |
| 11:06:18 | LinusN | no |
| 11:06:25 | Zagor | ok |
| 11:06:27 | LinusN | i never did that |
| 11:06:40 | langhaarrocker | why not? :) |
| 11:06:50 | LinusN | time is a scarce resource |
| 11:07:22 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 11:07:22 | * | langhaarrocker was kidding and really appreciates Linus work!! |
| 11:07:28 | dwihno | Me too! :) |
| 11:07:33 | dwihno | even if I never use vbr stuff |
| 11:07:40 | dwihno | \o/ Linus \o/ |
| 11:08:15 | LinusN | Zagor: how about "known bugs"? |
| 11:09:01 | langhaarrocker | I like "known features" better. |
| 11:09:20 | Zagor | LinusN: good idea |
| 11:10:05 | dwihno | Yay for 2.0! :) |
| 11:10:40 | LinusN | the FM recorder charging animation is a good example |
| 11:10:54 | dwihno | Linus: is it pretty? |
| 11:11:40 | LinusN | it is non-existent |
| 11:14:12 | dwihno | :( |
| 11:14:35 | langhaarrocker | Linus: Do you have any plans to prepend id3 tags in situ? Without copying the file but some magic fat tricks? |
| 11:16:44 | LinusN | no |
| 11:17:23 | LinusN | there are few occasions where this would be practical |
| 11:17:47 | LinusN | all you can do is to prepend an entire cluster |
| 11:17:55 | LinusN | and that might be as big as 64K |
| 11:17:58 | langhaarrocker | That's what I meant |
| 11:18:14 | LinusN | and i'll still have to move around the old ID3 tag |
| 11:19:06 | langhaarrocker | I wasn't aware that there are situations where you want to prepend data when an id3 tag already exists. |
| 11:19:39 | LinusN | imagine that there is atag, but no room for the Xing header, which must be between the ID3 and the first audio frame |
| 11:19:50 | langhaarrocker | ok |
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| 11:21:39 | langhaarrocker | I'm just a bit worried about very long recordings. There might be occasions you don't want to copy the file on batteries or even don't have enough space on the hd. |
| 11:22:21 | LinusN | yeah, i know |
| 11:22:49 | LinusN | we can always add a cluster and move the old tag |
| 11:23:04 | LinusN | and waste 64K |
| 11:24:51 | Schnueff | moin |
| 11:25:02 | langhaarrocker | That's space enough to put in a 'Created by Rockbox' logo :) |
| 11:25:18 | langhaarrocker | Schnueff: moin |
| 11:29:21 | langhaarrocker | LinusN: In my private secret dreams inserting id3 / xing header works like this: |
| 11:29:21 | langhaarrocker | 1.) Always prepend a cluster (wasting 64k) |
| 11:29:21 | langhaarrocker | 2.) (optional) User triggers an action that shifts the file to get rid of the waste. |
| 11:31:10 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: i like that |
| 11:31:16 | LinusN | 2.1 material |
| 11:31:25 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 11:37:39 | * | dwihno has found the magic limit for firmware file size now. |
| 11:37:46 | LinusN | nice |
| 11:37:48 | dwihno | Bigger than 204798 bytes, and it will choke |
| 11:37:53 | dwihno | At least, on my recorder |
| 11:38:14 | dwihno | Linus, you have all sorts of boxes, can you verify this? |
| 11:38:23 | Bagder | 204800 |
| 11:38:26 | LinusN | 0x32000 and up, then |
| 11:38:26 | langhaarrocker | dwihno: was that try and error or reverse engeneered? |
| 11:38:27 | Bagder | is 200K |
| 11:38:54 | dwihno | :-) |
| 11:39:17 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: trial and error |
| 11:39:30 | dwihno | You want me to fix scramble.c? |
| 11:39:36 | Bagder | please do |
| 11:39:48 | dwihno | I'll make the patch generic. |
| 11:40:04 | langhaarrocker | Pah. Who cares about that limit once there'll be loadable modules! :) |
| 11:40:21 | PsycoXul | does ROLO have that limit? |
| 11:40:30 | LinusN | no |
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| 11:41:01 | hitsuji | hi? |
| 11:41:03 | LinusN | hi |
| 11:41:13 | * | langhaarrocker goes lunch |
| 11:41:16 | hitsuji | i´ve got a question :-) |
| 11:41:26 | dwihno | gong xi, hitsuji :D |
| 11:42:13 | hitsuji | it is possible to play "folder" so the jukebox does play all mp3s which are in the subfolders of that folder?? |
| 11:42:30 | langhaarrocker | not directly |
| 11:42:48 | hitsuji | hmm. i had to do playlists?? |
| 11:42:51 | langhaarrocker | You can build a plalist file with rockbox that contains all subdirectories. |
| 11:43:09 | hitsuji | hm, shit. |
| 11:43:51 | hitsuji | it is possible to implement this? |
| 11:44:05 | LinusN | what is wrong with building a playlist with rokbox? |
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| 11:44:47 | oKin | hi |
| 11:44:50 | LinusN | hi |
| 11:45:16 | hitsuji | can i make the playlist like this only with the jukebox or do i need the pc for that? |
| 11:45:42 | langhaarrocker | You can build a playlist file with rockbox that contains all subdirectories. |
| 11:45:44 | LinusN | select "create playlist" in the menu |
| 11:45:48 | oKin | i come to u coz i've got a Jukebox Fm Recorder 20Go |
| 11:45:54 | LinusN | oKin: ok |
| 11:46:18 | oKin | and i'm discovering rockbox |
| 11:46:43 | oKin | is it possible to change the OS of my jukebox? |
| 11:46:59 | oKin | just putting some funny stuff in it? |
| 11:47:01 | oKin | :) |
| 11:47:07 | langhaarrocker | yes. New os: rockbox! :) |
| 11:47:07 | Bagder | yes it is |
| 11:47:29 | oKin | rockbox is the onbly project on Archos jukebox? |
| 11:47:34 | oKin | only? |
| 11:47:37 | LinusN | i think so |
| 11:47:46 | dwihno | Okay |
| 11:47:59 | dwihno | Patch done |
| 11:48:00 | oKin | ok cool :) |
| 11:48:04 | dwihno | Where should I mail it? :) |
| 11:48:25 | oKin | is it possible to connect to the net with an archos? :) |
| 11:48:35 | LinusN | dwihno: mail it to me, linus at haxx.se |
| 11:48:41 | LinusN | oKin: no |
| 11:49:07 | oKin | doh :) |
| 11:49:10 | dwihno | LinusN: I'll attach some godis too ;-) |
| 11:49:17 | LinusN | (oh no) |
| 11:49:46 | oKin | and what is the avantage of the rockbox os ? |
| 11:49:59 | Bagder | oKin: try it yourself and you'll see |
| 11:50:09 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/features.html |
| 11:50:30 | LinusN | but that is only true for 1.4, the upcoming 2.0 has lots more |
| 11:50:35 | Bagder | rockbox makes your Archos usable |
| 11:50:52 | Bagder | LinusN: that comparison chart is for cvs code too, so its 2.0 compatible ;-) |
| 11:50:56 | LinusN | ok |
| 11:52:38 | dwihno | LinusN: *BOING* |
| 11:52:42 | oKin | Max number of files in a dir 400 |
| 11:52:51 | oKin | why it's lower? |
| 11:52:57 | Bagder | read the FAQ |
| 11:53:35 | oKin | you'r not able to explain me? |
| 11:53:53 | Bagder | yes I am but its boring, and its already perfectly written in the faq |
| 11:54:03 | Bagder | so why repeat it here? |
| 11:54:11 | oKin | sure... |
| 11:54:25 | oKin | no FM support too :( |
| 11:54:33 | Bagder | feel free to fix |
| 11:55:00 | oKin | i dont have the knoledge to |
| 11:55:05 | Bagder | this is a hobby project |
| 11:55:09 | Bagder | we all do this on our spare time |
| 11:55:17 | oKin | i know :) |
| 11:55:49 | Bagder | lunch! |
| 11:55:59 | * | langhaarrocker too |
| 11:56:28 | dwihno | LinusN: Tell me what you think |
| 11:57:55 | hitsuji | great work with rockbox! :-) cu |
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| 11:58:18 | oKin | i just have to upload the file on the harddrive? |
| 11:58:28 | oKin | and the archos will boot on the new os? |
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| 12:00:13 | LinusN | yes |
| 12:00:34 | LinusN | remember to name the file "ajbrec.ajz" |
| 12:01:02 | oKin | ? |
| 12:01:05 | LinusN | and download the original firmware from www.archos.com and put it there as well, as archos_orig.ajz or something |
| 12:01:26 | oKin | oki |
| 12:01:27 | LinusN | then you can boot that from rockbox if you feel like running it |
| 12:01:50 | oKin | i put it in : .rockbox , thats right? |
| 12:02:09 | LinusN | no, in the root |
| 12:02:25 | oKin | mkdir j:\.rockbox |
| 12:02:27 | oKin | ? |
| 12:02:39 | LinusN | yeah |
| 12:02:48 | oKin | so?! |
| 12:03:02 | LinusN | mkdir j:\.rockbox |
| 12:04:02 | LinusN | copy c:\downloads\archos20030414.ajz J:\ajbrec.ajz |
| 12:04:44 | LinusN | copy c.\downloads\original_firmware\ajbrec.ajz J:\ajbrec_orig.ajz |
| 12:05:40 | oKin | oki |
| 12:05:53 | oKin | i'll try it this afternoon |
| 12:09:18 | LinusN | good luck |
| 12:09:28 | LinusN | and remember to read the FAQ |
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| 12:10:36 | tracktheripper | morning :) |
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| 12:50:11 | Bagder | hey |
| 12:50:21 | Bagder | do we need to PREVENT > 200K files ? |
| 12:50:44 | Bagder | we can still rolo them |
| 12:51:13 | Zagor | we just need to make sure daily builds are small enough to load |
| 12:51:17 | LinusN | well, we can warn of course, but can you think of any case that we explicitly want to create such large files? |
| 12:51:56 | Bagder | true, if the need arises, we can add an option that allows this limit to get overridden |
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| 13:01:05 | Bagder | ls -l ajbrec.ajz |
| 13:01:05 | Bagder | -rw-r−−r−− 1 daniel daniel 205418 Apr 14 07:28 ajbrec.ajz |
| 13:01:17 | Bagder | that's my morning build |
| 13:02:10 | Zagor | min is -rw-rw−−−− 1 bjst ninjas 202358 Apr 14 09:29 ajbrec.ajz |
| 13:02:55 | Bagder | gcc version 3.0.3 |
| 13:03:13 | Zagor | yup |
| 13:03:25 | Bagder | weird |
| 13:03:30 | Zagor | indeed |
| 13:03:43 | Bagder | hm |
| 13:03:47 | Bagder | I'm trying -O3 now |
| 13:03:57 | Bagder | but then the link phase fails |
| 13:04:28 | Bagder | "region DRAM is full (/home/daniel/src/rockbox/build-recorder/rockbox.elf section .topram)" |
| 13:07:53 | LinusN | i have 3.0.3, my build is 202022 |
| 13:09:18 | Bagder | I guess -O3 inlines a bit too much for our taste or something |
| 13:09:39 | langhaarrocker | O2 is better for breathing. |
| 13:11:17 | Bagder | 206042 bytes now |
| 13:11:38 | langhaarrocker | gzip? :) |
| 13:11:41 | Bagder | how weird |
| 13:12:21 | Bagder | so when I run make in tools I can't build it anymore |
| 13:12:26 | Bagder | error: max firmware size is 200KB! |
| 13:12:43 | LinusN | Bagder: and you have no files checked out? |
| 13:12:57 | Bagder | I have no diffs, no |
| 13:13:10 | LinusN | wow |
| 13:13:17 | Bagder | I bet I have some extra source file or so |
| 13:13:28 | LinusN | might be |
| 13:14:35 | Bagder | yes, 202022 bytes now |
| 13:14:48 | Bagder | the downside of "smart" makefiles |
| 13:15:05 | LinusN | what was it? |
| 13:15:20 | Bagder | I had the star game c source in apps/recorder |
| 13:15:45 | LinusN | why is zagors file larger? he has the same gcc version |
| 13:15:58 | Bagder | he prolly has some leftovers too |
| 13:16:15 | Bagder | or a local mod |
| 13:16:25 | * | langhaarrocker detects a dead link in http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#59 |
| 13:18:09 | LinusN | i blame bagder |
| 13:18:12 | Zagor | I have a local mod |
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| 13:34:24 | LinusN | dwihno's inverted cursor looks really good |
| 13:34:43 | langhaarrocker | not to slow? |
| 13:34:46 | LinusN | no |
| 13:35:48 | langhaarrocker | I guess it won't be applied to V2.0 nevertheless? |
| 13:35:59 | LinusN | no |
| 13:36:34 | LinusN | unless we send a hitman to zagor's house |
| 13:37:33 | Zagor | we have to save something for 2.1, otherwise people will never upgrade ;) |
| 13:37:59 | Schnueff | we could put in an expiry date for 2.0 :) |
| 13:38:38 | langhaarrocker | "best before 1.6.2003" |
| 13:39:12 | LinusN | "best on <insert release date here>" |
| 13:39:25 | LinusN | new features will be added the day after |
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| 14:44:20 | >>> | "pass" used by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 14:44:22 | >>> | "explain 2.0" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 14:44:33 | #>> | "explain 2.0" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 14:45:49 | dwihno | :-D |
| 14:45:56 | dwihno | It sure will |
| 14:46:12 | #>> | "explain features of 2.0" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-021.dsl1.versanet.de) |
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| 14:46:41 | | Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:48:12 | >>> | "explain zagor" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-021.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:49:28 | >>> | "say zagor is a bot" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 14:49:52 | >>> | "logbot say I'm a liar" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-021.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:49:53 | Zagor | is not! |
| 14:50:16 | >>> | "say I'm a liar" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-021.dsl1.versanet.de) |
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| 14:50:38 | Zagor | i'm tweaking the docs. very very nice work. |
| 14:50:46 | >>> | "say I'm a liar" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-021.dsl1.versanet.de) |
| 14:51:46 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: do you mean the docs of quelsaruk? |
| 14:52:04 | Bagder | Zagor: add qualsaruk to the credits before you release |
| 14:52:10 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: yes |
| 14:52:18 | Zagor | Bagder: right |
| 14:52:55 | dwihno | he's so bien |
| 14:52:59 | dwihno | Bien bien! |
| 15:00 |
| 15:26:25 | Zagor | coolers, openoffice 1.1 has pdf generation built-in |
| 15:26:49 | dwihno | :D |
| 15:26:53 | dwihno | Yay for PDF's |
| 15:27:23 | langhaarrocker | Does it support links in pdf? For the index? |
| 15:28:16 | Zagor | i don't know |
| 15:37:03 | elinenbe | woo! |
| 15:40:04 | dwihno | Mister Woo |
| 15:55:48 | elinenbe | Who there? |
| 15:55:55 | * | Bagder is |
| 15:56:09 | >>> | "say me, too" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-021.dsl1.versanet.de) |
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| 16:00:17 | LinusN | i am |
| 16:03:56 | dwihno | I AM! :D |
| 16:03:58 | dwihno | Misa here! |
| 16:07:20 | langhaarrocker | I'm somewhere else. |
| 16:25:40 | Bagder | its soon 1 year anniversary for our devcon conf last year |
| 16:25:49 | Bagder | time flies |
| 16:38:51 | Zagor | we need to have a new one |
| 16:39:16 | langhaarrocker | A new time? |
| 16:39:40 | Zagor | a new devcon |
| 16:42:03 | Zagor | windows really is lovely. "you system has run out of virtual memory. one or more programs will be terminated." |
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| 16:47:30 | LinusN | hi hardeep |
| 16:47:36 | hardeep | heya |
| 16:48:32 | Zagor | updated manual: http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/manual.pdf and http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/manual.sxw (openoffice) |
| 16:49:00 | Zagor | if someone knows how to tell pdf to now dither 600-byte 1-pixel images, that would be nice too |
| 16:49:06 | Zagor | s/now/not |
| 16:49:19 | Bagder | check the page number |
| 16:49:38 | Zagor | haha |
| 16:49:40 | Zagor | oops :-) |
| 16:50:04 | Zagor | brb |
| 16:50:34 | Bagder | the bullets in the top list on page 9 look odd |
| 16:51:17 | LinusN | Zagor: not to dither what? |
| 16:51:38 | LinusN | they don't look dithered to me |
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| 16:55:23 | LinusN | the recording screen shots are wrong |
| 16:55:50 | LinusN | the f2 and f3 screens are not correct |
| 16:56:54 | LinusN | and STOP doesn't exist on a recorder |
| 16:57:39 | LinusN | and it is called "Update VBR file", not "VBRFix" |
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| 16:58:07 | Zagor | LinusN: the images aren't dithered, but they are distorted. I have them at 100%, but in the pdf pixels get different sizes |
| 16:58:37 | LinusN | aha |
| 16:58:53 | LinusN | well, they do seem a little distorted when i look closer |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:57 | Zagor | the rec shots are quelsaruks faked wps shots |
| 17:01:47 | LinusN | maybe i should do some real ones... |
| 17:02:24 | Zagor | that would be good |
| 17:03:08 | elinenbe | I haven't read through the manual much, but does it cover how windows users have to go about creating a .rockbox directory? |
| 17:03:29 | Zagor | elinenbe: yes |
| 17:03:32 | elinenbe | they either have to do it in a DOS window "mkdir .rockbox" or just unzip the rockbox archive directly to the device. |
| 17:03:45 | elinenbe | Zagor: great! I can see lots more questions about this. |
| 17:05:56 | Zagor | files updated |
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| 17:15:59 | langhaarrocker | There occasionally are layout problems. For example on Page 24 long lines break the layout |
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| 17:21:17 | langhaarrocker | There's that thing in the nodo in the docs (http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/nodo.html#8) |
| 17:21:17 | langhaarrocker | It doesn't describe an equalizer but an analyzer. |
| 17:21:34 | * | langhaarrocker must go |
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| 17:59:26 | The_Supernerd | if anyone checks the log, heres a story. I decided ihen i first started using rockbox that i'd delete rockbox after a month for 1 day to see how much more feature-rich rockbox is than archos. -> |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:22 | webmind | ? |
| 18:00:25 | LinusN | ouch, that must have hurt |
| 18:01:05 | The_Supernerd | i just did it today and im not liking this at all... i miss my shortcuts, my menu's and my volume. It sounds too raspy. Although the bass does have more richness to it, it's not worth it to not have rockbox. |
| 18:01:30 | LinusN | we will work on the bass after 2.0 is released |
| 18:01:49 | The_Supernerd | im not going to make it the whole day, and cool. I love rockbox. |
| 18:02:04 | The_Supernerd | 2.0 sounds excellent |
| 18:02:21 | The_Supernerd | ill of course stick to my "Geeky" daily builds. |
| 18:03:06 | The_Supernerd | does anyone know what it means when my archos studio 10 sometimes freezes at the startup screen? its also rediculously slow now. |
| 18:03:38 | LinusN | is it? what daily build do you use? |
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| 18:07:34 | The_Supernerd | i think it may have something to do with the "power saving" feature, not sure though., oh sorry dialup sucks. |
| 18:09:49 | LinusN | which version do you use? |
| 18:10:22 | The_Supernerd | oh, im using the most updated right now, but even when i went back to archos, im still getting these problems |
| 18:10:32 | LinusN | oh |
| 18:10:50 | LinusN | sounds like a bettery or hard disk problem |
| 18:10:52 | LinusN | battery |
| 18:11:38 | The_Supernerd | well, i was never able to turn off power saver, because i originally loved it. The next version had no option so was it maybe stuck turned on? Oh, bnattery.. damn. |
| 18:12:08 | The_Supernerd | well, in debug (keep out, haha funny) it says my batteries get 5.8-6v when fully charged. |
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| 18:12:36 | LinusN | when it hangs, does the disk spin up? |
| 18:12:42 | The_Supernerd | yes |
| 18:12:46 | The_Supernerd | sometimes |
| 18:12:59 | LinusN | sometimes? |
| 18:13:18 | The_Supernerd | yeah, sometimes it will freeze at "5.08" and spiun, others it wont. |
| 18:13:32 | LinusN | ok, try to replace the batteries |
| 18:13:42 | The_Supernerd | with what? im fikkin poor! |
| 18:13:56 | LinusN | eeeh, with a new set of batteries... |
| 18:14:19 | The_Supernerd | would i be able to use alkaline if i dont try to charge them, or would it destroy it? |
| 18:14:25 | LinusN | just try to take them out and reinsert them, it may be a bad contact |
| 18:14:34 | LinusN | alkaline may kill it |
| 18:14:53 | The_Supernerd | oh ive done that many of times, because it wont tourn off when it freeses and i have to rip them out. |
| 18:15:07 | The_Supernerd | ok.. |
| 18:15:31 | The_Supernerd | how about cadmium, i have a few of those from cordless phones laying around. |
| 18:15:45 | LinusN | don't |
| 18:15:56 | The_Supernerd | ehh, damn. Im screwed for now. |
| 18:16:47 | The_Supernerd | are there any other ways to tell its the batteries besides the debug? I usually still get 5.8 volts and get battery of 8+ hours. |
| 18:17:08 | LinusN | it may be the hard drive |
| 18:17:50 | The_Supernerd | damn, the archos software just ff'ed through another whole song.. im going back. i cant make it. oh thats good news. |
| 18:19:21 | The_Supernerd | harddrive.. sigh. guess ill have to stick a 2gig laptop harddrive from my thinkpad in there until i can get a new one. |
| 18:20:08 | The_Supernerd | i wouldnt be able to fix it through software, would i? |
| 18:21:18 | The_Supernerd | damn, i gotta go. I'll check the log for some possible solutions. thanks linusn. |
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| 18:23:19 | LinusN | FF key problem too??? |
| 18:23:31 | LinusN | that guy has a seriously f*cked up jukebox |
| 18:23:57 | LinusN | could be a grounding problem, a loose solder joint somewhere |
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| 20:07:20 | TBoy | hoi |
| 20:07:20 | TBoy | guys an off topic question |
| 20:07:20 | TBoy | is it possible to add a file to an bin(iso) |
| 20:11:36 | elinenbe | TBoy: search for the program UltraISO (Windows only) |
| 20:13:53 | TBoy | its ok |
| 20:13:59 | TBoy | I found out myself |
| 20:14:15 | TBoy | "never ask befor going to google" :D |
| 20:14:21 | TBoy | thats the golden rule |
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| 22:16:13 | TBoy1 | can someone kick TBoy |
| 22:16:24 | TBoy1 | since that is me but I somehow disconnected |
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| 22:57:17 | Bagder | evening |
| 22:57:23 | Zagor | howdy |
| 22:57:42 | Bagder | I'm following the debian talk |
| 22:57:44 | Bagder | interesting |
| 22:58:41 | Zagor | are you in debian-testing or debian-devel, or both? |
| 22:58:57 | Bagder | googling news, so I cover both ;-) |
| 22:59:04 | Zagor | ah :) |
| 22:59:43 | Bagder | I still don't understand why they set the dependency on gcc-3.2 and not an earlier version |
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| 23:02:56 | Zagor | did you see this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg01023.html |
| 23:03:06 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:03:26 | Bagder | but libgcc is part of all gcc versions |
| 23:03:35 | Bagder | not just 3.2 |
| 23:03:45 | Zagor | ok |
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| 23:06:54 | s0be | I'm making a cable for my archos, and do Ineed to swap data+ and data- or do they stay the same? |
| 23:07:36 | Bagder | no idea |
| 23:10:24 | Zagor | s0be: what kind of cable? |
| 23:11:15 | s0be | USb A USB A |
| 23:11:30 | s0be | I lost my origional and have 2 usb extension cables I'm wiring together |
| 23:15:12 | s0be | it's straight wired... I figured it out |
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| 23:30:47 | TheDoctor | Hey! is there any EASY way to apply patch files to my jukebox?? (program newbie) |
| 23:30:48 | BoD[] | hi |
| 23:31:13 | Bagder | TheDoctor: you mean applying a patch from the patch tracker etc? |
| 23:31:22 | TheDoctor | jepp |
| 23:31:29 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/patch.html |
| 23:31:58 | Bagder | patches are source-changes, you need to setup the build environment first |
| 23:32:13 | TheDoctor | jeah... i know... now i got a phyton GUI and CVSWinGUI but now??? |
| 23:32:30 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/firsttime.html |
| 23:32:47 | TheDoctor | is there a gui way?? |
| 23:33:17 | Bagder | we have put an effort in writing down the procedures, you could try reading |
| 23:33:21 | Bagder | but no |
| 23:33:27 | Bagder | I don't think there's a gui way |
| 23:33:30 | Bagder | not that I know of |
| 23:34:05 | TheDoctor | hmmmmm isn` it difficult??? dmn reading once more |
| 23:34:21 | TheDoctor | okay thanx for help... |
| 23:34:55 | Bagder | hundreds of people have made it already, its not _that_ difficult |
| 23:38:00 | TheDoctor | okydokey THX |
| 23:38:07 | TheDoctor | N8 |
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| 23:38:18 | Bagder | neight? |
| 23:38:20 | Bagder | ;-) |
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