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#rockbox log for 2003-04-20

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00:08:47BoD[]hi !
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02:08:18Jet8810anybody knwo a good book to get somebody whos interested in Politics, Theology, Religion, Philosophy...ect. ?
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02:10:23Stephenhey hey!
02:11:06StephenI know patches aren't supported, but has anyone managed to get the search patch to work? it compiles fine for me, just never returns any results what so ever
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02:16:24Stephennm got it working great
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03:09:55Stephenanyone here?
03:11:07Stephendoes anyone know the function to launch a playlist I tried Does this look correct play_list("/.rockbox/", "results.m3u", 0, false, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1); but nothing happens
03:11:17Stephenof course I made sure playlist.h was included in the file
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14:34:42Stephenanyone awake?
14:35:42MTdefine awake
14:37:13StephenI was just wondering if anyone knows how to use the function to launch a playlist, I included this playlist header in the file and ran what looked like the function I it never worked
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19:13:36tracktheripperHappy Easter everybody! :)
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20:48:24tracktheripperhi adimas :)
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21:58:23midknight2k3All right something weird's going on with rockbox
21:58:29midknight2k3I need a bit of help
21:58:47midknight2k3Is there anyone here that's able to give a bit of info?
22:00:58midknight2k3if there is hang on a sec
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22:04:22midknight2k3all right well if anyone returns and sees this message please say soemthing
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22:42:11midknight2k3man i need help with patches
22:42:19midknight2k3i don't get how to install them
22:45:46midknight2k3Is there anyoen here who can help me? You all must be dead
22:45:56midknight2k3there's like 15 people here
23:02:31 Join tracktheripper [0] (
23:04:23midknight2k3someone's here finally!
23:04:31midknight2k3do you know much about the patches?
23:07:21tracktheripperhi midknight :-)
23:08:09midknight2k3been waiting for someone to actually pop in or say something
23:08:18midknight2k3is everyone dead?
23:08:35tracktheripperwell im alive, not sure about everyone else
23:09:00midknight2k3so do you know about patches?
23:10:09tracktherippernot really, I hardly know anything about programming
23:10:20midknight2k3I relaly want to figure it out
23:10:23tracktheripperbut I know some non-code related things to do with the Archos
23:10:27midknight2k3I did just post to the mailing list
23:10:34midknight2k3anything neat?
23:11:41tracktheripperif u could ask me something because i can't think of anything to say right now :-|
23:11:48tracktheripperhad too much to drink this Easter
23:12:14midknight2k3Ask you if you can do a specific thing on the archos?
23:12:39midknight2k3well i have no idea
23:12:51tracktheripperme neither
23:12:55tracktheripper2 much to drink
23:13:18 Join LinusN [200] (
23:13:19tracktheripperI like to know the point of being able to adjust the HD spin-down time
23:13:25midknight2k3Can you make text show up on the screen ? or MAke a new rockbox that has an interface overhaul and has 50 options for the peak-a-meter?
23:13:32tracktheripperwhats the point of keeping the HD spinning? It just wastes the battery
23:13:35midknight2k3There's Linus! Just who I wanted
23:13:46tracktheripperwell Midnight it can read .txt files
23:13:50tracktheripperHappy Easter Linus :-)
23:13:50LinusNtracktheripper: the point is that you can trade battery time for quick navigation
23:14:30midknight2k3happy easter...
23:14:40midknight2k3did you get my mailing list post email thing?
23:14:54tracktheripperLinus do u know what "flange" is?
23:15:21LinusNtracktheripper: yes
23:15:34midknight2k3"Linus, why is this feature here?" "Did you get my email Linus?" "What's 'flange' linus??"
23:15:36tracktheripperits a really cool sweeping effect that suits techno music :-)
23:15:51tracktheripperand you had the disheart to reject it :-(
23:16:11LinusNsame story as always, the MAS can't be reprogrammed
23:16:24tracktheripperwith that bog-standard "This is not possible due to hardware limitations" :-)
23:16:24midknight2k3SO anyways, can you tell me about how to do this patch stuff?
23:16:39LinusNmidknight2k3: patch the sources?
23:16:55midknight2k3I want to try out the '[ 695524 ] UI changes
23:17:10LinusNdo you have the sources and the cross compiler installed?
23:17:22midknight2k3cross compiler? lol
23:17:42LinusNyes, gcc for SH-1
23:17:42tracktheripperLinusN if you put an ID3 tag editor in the daily builds ill share my easter egg wiv you :-)
23:18:04LinusNtracktheripper: i'm fed up with candy :-)
23:18:08midknight2k3gcc for sh-1, eh hmm
23:18:15midknight2k3so wait
23:18:36midknight2k3I have to get the rockbox source code? And then the gcc thing?
23:18:41tracktheripperLinusN what interface changes do u have in mind?
23:18:49tracktheripperaccording to future versions of Rockbox?
23:18:52midknight2k3Iw as curios about that as well
23:18:58midknight2k3v2.2 roadmap thing
23:19:22tracktherippera full Windows XP interface complete with taskbar ,wallpaper and Recycle bin? :-)
23:19:23midknight2k3interface overhaul - I don't get how it could be different
23:19:58midknight2k3Actually that is not possible due to hardware limitations :((
23:20:14tracktheripperMidknight here is a feature request
23:20:20LinusNwe are discussing several UI changes
23:20:28tracktheripperFeature request "Make LinusN Smile"
23:20:33tracktheripperResolution "Rejected"
23:20:43tracktheripperComment "This is not possible due to hardware limitations" :-)
23:21:02midknight2k3I'm wasting time, crap
23:21:13midknight2k3okay so I need the rockbox source?
23:21:26midknight2k3I have the two tools, 'patch' and 'diff'
23:23:25midknight2k3I have a better idea than all this: if you have the time, could you just compile it or whatever and send it to me? :)
23:23:40LinusNmidknight2k3: you need a complete development environment
23:23:58midknight2k3Do you have a complete development environment?
23:24:20tracktheripperMIdnight whatever u compile could u email me please?
23:24:25tracktheripperim still learning this jargon
23:24:34midknight2k3I don't know what to do
23:24:51LinusNmidknight2k3: i have, but i don't have the time to patch and compile the UI patch
23:25:04midknight2k3How long does it take?
23:26:12LinusNlong, because i would have to d/l very old sources, plus the patch
23:26:22LinusNon a dialup
23:26:26midknight2k3oh well forget it
23:26:48tracktheripperI still wonder why Archos put such a stupidly small buffer in the Archos, only 2Mb
23:27:13LinusNthey probably save a few cents per unit...
23:27:42tracktheripperyes but the Creative Labs Nomad comes with a10Mb buffer for the same price!
23:27:55midknight2k3iPod has what a 16MB buffer?
23:28:11tracktherippersummat like that
23:28:16midknight2k3And I think the RioRiot has a larger one too
23:28:30midknight2k3But hey!
23:28:35tracktheripperjust write a firmware to increase the buffer size
23:28:49midknight2k3How would you do theat may I ask?
23:29:17tracktherippersorry too much Stella Artois today :-(
23:29:50midknight2k3One more thing, Linus: So if I have the two files (diff and patch) plus the 2.0 source code and the patch file, is it possible?
23:30:03midknight2k3If not, do I need an older version of the source?
23:30:07midknight2k3Or perhaps another file?
23:31:31tracktheripperSome of the patches look good though
23:31:39tracktheripperbut the interface improvement looks most interest
23:31:43midknight2k3yeah if only I knew how to complie them
23:31:50midknight2k3the UI changes one?
23:32:06tracktheripperMidknight one good UI improvement is to add sliders for the sound adjustments
23:32:11tracktheripperlike in the Archos firmwares
23:32:15midknight2k3Okay wait
23:32:17LinusNmidknight2k3: you need the exact version of the source that the patch was made against
23:32:23midknight2k3I;m not a reocbox guy
23:32:24LinusNplus the cross compiler
23:32:33MTLinusN: do you use your fmrec much?
23:32:41LinusNonly for development
23:33:01MTthe batttery clip at the top on mine keeps coming off
23:33:08tracktheripperLinusN Sliders for the sound adjusters would be good. A lot of space is wasted on the LCD when altering bass/treble
23:33:14MTslightest knock and it goes flying
23:33:24LinusNMT: lost the small screw?
23:33:32LinusNtracktheripper: agreed
23:33:48tracktheripperwell a switchable option for sliders would be good :-)
23:33:53midknight2k3I think something like a 5 band EQ would be best
23:33:58MTthe very little one that hooks the circuit board and the case? i dont think so
23:33:58LinusNmidknight2k3: no can do
23:34:09tracktheripperI heard a vague rumour that the "Invert" mode may be removed in future versions
23:34:11midknight2k3Hardware limitations? lol
23:34:13LinusNthe MP3 decoder is hardware
23:34:28midknight2k3You might be able to simulate it though
23:34:34tracktheripperMidknight, timestretching I would love to have but not possible
23:34:36LinusNnot in realtime
23:35:05midknight2k3well yes then, vertical sliders I'd like
23:35:14midknight2k3a 2 band eq - bass and treble
23:35:18tracktherippermidknight timestretch is altering the playback speed whilst keeping the pitch the same
23:35:23midknight2k3i know
23:35:27MT<django23> I have a stupid question: what does "sendmail" do?
23:35:33MTone of those nights \o/
23:35:44LinusNdjango? that was a long time ago
23:35:44midknight2k3when I said 'huh' I meant like, really - to linus
23:36:04LinusNmidknight2k3: the MP3 would have to be reencoded
23:36:56midknight2k3yeah that doesn't work as well as an eq would :\
23:37:13midknight2k3Linus do you think that the archos recorder screen could do grayscale?
23:37:21tracktheripperu could have a 4 band EQ
23:37:30tracktheripperbass, treble, loudness and bass booster
23:37:42midknight2k3you;re such a joker
23:37:45tracktheripperMidknight greyscale is not possible
23:37:53tracktheripperi sent that request and it got rejected
23:37:59tracktheripperthe LCD is only 1bit
23:38:07midknight2k3could you control the power going to individual pixels insted of the whole screen?
23:38:09midknight2k3it seems possible
23:38:28midknight2k3well a little unreal but still logically perhaps a little tiny bit little posiible
23:38:31tracktheripperMidknight the screen is a basic LCD, not a super TFT laptop monitor LCD :-)
23:38:38midknight2k3Okay here's my idea
23:38:57midknight2k3Just like contrast except that you change the contrast for the individual pixels
23:39:10midknight2k3so you could give a pixel half power then it might just come up dim
23:39:43midknight2k3What I wanna see, is some more GAMES.
23:40:08tracktheripperI think Games is the only pointless feature in Rockbox
23:40:12midknight2k3Tetris=Cool, Sokoban=uh, right..... and Wormlet=YAY! but Snake would be coolor Breakout
23:40:14tracktheripperI never use the games
23:40:29midknight2k3idiot jerk!
23:40:32midknight2k3lol j/k
23:40:32LinusNmidknight2k3: the pixels can be either on or off, that's it
23:40:44midknight2k3Are you planning more games linus?
23:40:47tracktheripperMidknight do use Windows Media Player to play games?
23:40:53tracktheripperDo you use your hi-fi to play games?
23:41:04LinusNmidknight2k3: we leave the games to those who like coding them
23:41:04tracktheripperwell then! :-)
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23:41:15LinusNbut there are more games in the pipe
23:41:19MTi'd like to see me finish my jump-to patch :/
23:41:35midknight2k3Is anyone submitting games that they made then?
23:41:43tracktheripperLinusN I think a crossfader is mega important. Please include :-)
23:42:03midknight2k3Haha! I told you for once.
23:42:10midknight2k3You'd need two decoders
23:42:13midknight2k3You only have one
23:42:31tracktheripperwell you could include a pseudo-software decoder.....
23:42:58midknight2k3That is just crazy enough to...
23:43:01MTid like my archos to turn my 56k into a 2mbit leased line
23:43:08midknight2k3be called stupid and shunted sideways into the NODO FAQ
23:43:19tracktheripperand Midknight the most important 24carat gold feature request is to include support Realizer :-)
23:44:06tracktheripperAccording to the Realizer website "Realizer brings all the full realism sound lost during MP3 compression by magically restoring all the frequencies lost!" :-)
23:44:23midknight2k3Okay you know what
23:44:33midknight2k3The most important 24carat gold feature request is to....
23:44:41midknight2k3Include a liero game!
23:44:46midknight2k3which is impossibe
23:44:52midknight2k3but is a fantasy!
23:44:57tracktheripperwhat is a liero game?
23:45:14midknight2k3only the best game ever
23:45:21tracktheripperand my 48carat gold request is for the Archos to massage my back after a hard day's work :-)
23:45:30midknight2k3you wish
23:45:36midknight2k3I know how to get it to!
23:45:56midknight2k3that's liero but how to get it to massage is this:
23:46:26midknight2k3Plug in big headphones, boom the bass on Rockbox (You expected ARchos firmware??) then turn it up load and put it on your back
23:46:43tracktheripperlol ill try that!
23:46:47midknight2k3It will shake and wiggle and otherwise massage you
23:46:58tracktheripperMidknight sometime ago I sumbitted a request "Partition the drive in the Archos"
23:47:01midknight2k3I better copyright it
23:47:18midknight2k3Yeah, implement a partitionmagic 8 right?
23:47:33midknight2k3The firmware would go from 230KB to about 70,563KB
23:47:40tracktheripperZagor replied "Rejected. Have you heard of Fdisk? Partition Magic? Do you ask Winamp to partition your PC's hard drive?"
23:48:04midknight2k3do you have a link?
23:48:08tracktheripperI replied "Do you use Winamp to play Tetris?"
23:48:12midknight2k3what thinbgy nukmber was it?
23:48:19tracktheripperits been deleted :-(
23:48:33midknight2k3oh well
23:48:36midknight2k3You know what
23:48:43midknight2k3Winamp's Pig Pen game is the best!
23:48:54midknight2k3Screeeeeeet, goes the pig!
23:49:16tracktheripperthe "officially most outrageous" feature request was "Make the normal Recorder pick up FM like the FM Recorder" :-)
23:49:38midknight2k3Oh my....
23:49:55midknight2k3who posted it?
23:50:06tracktheripperI DID NOT!
23:50:52midknight2k3so you did! you admit it!!
23:50:59tracktheripperI did not!
23:51:03tracktheripperI did not!
23:51:08midknight2k3who did then huh?
23:51:12midknight2k3who did then huh?
23:51:12DBUGEnqueued KICK midknight2k3
23:51:12midknight2k3who did then huh?
23:51:20tracktheripperit was LinusN :-)
23:51:24midknight2k3YOU. EXACTLY
23:51:37midknight2k3hahaha, linus is an idiot!
23:51:40midknight2k3just kidding lol
23:51:46midknight2k3soryy no pun intended
23:51:52midknight2k3I know it was you anyways
23:52:06tracktheripperi fixed that request anyway :-)
23:52:27tracktheripperStick a small radio to the back of your Archos and line-in :-)
23:53:01midknight2k3I broke my SMINTS
23:53:22tracktheripperbut I did send one famous daft request :-)
23:53:59tracktheripper"have the recorder turn voice recordings into .txt files that can be read in Word or Notepad" :-)
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23:55:10midknight2k3my smints!
23:55:15midknight2k3i gotta get a picture
23:55:19midknight2k3With my archos in it too
23:55:27PlymWSlo all
23:55:35tracktheripperi dropped my archos once :-(
23:55:41midknight2k3did it die?
23:55:42tracktheripperit has a tiny kink in the side of it
23:55:49midknight2k3do you have a picture?
23:55:51tracktheripperno It still works perfectly
23:56:02midknight2k3take a picture
23:56:14tracktheripperI should send a request "Make Rockbox fix the dent in the side of my Archos :-)"
23:56:19PlymWShas anyone here tried to replace the screen of a multimedia jukebox ?
23:56:32midknight2k3What are you smoking?
23:56:38midknight2k3Is that possible
23:56:42midknight2k3No way
23:56:52PlymWSdunno, thats what i want to find out :)
23:57:03tracktheripperMidknight I have a pic of myself and another pic wiv the Archos in my hand
23:57:13PlymWSi think the backlight has gone
23:57:25PlymWSjust want to see if its possible to replace b/l or screen
23:57:32midknight2k3Does it show the dent?
23:57:37midknight2k3i dont think so
23:57:43tracktheripperthe dent is slight anyway
23:57:52PlymWSno, screen died a week ago
23:57:52tracktheripperif u want give me ur email and ill email u the pics
23:58:16midknight2k3not 2k3, just 2k
23:58:17tracktheripperhang ons

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