| 00:01:38 | Zagor | LinusN: do you know if it's the national lm2651 or the fairchild mc34064 dc/dc that handles charging? |
| 00:05:08 | LinusN | mc34064 |
| 00:06:08 | Zagor | it's rated to handle 40V, so 13.5 should probably be ok |
| 00:06:44 | LinusN | it's not all about that chip |
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| 00:08:35 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 00:08:41 | Jet8810 | would it be too risky? |
| 00:08:47 | LinusN | the external DC is connected to the CPU A/D converters via a simple voltage divider, and i'm not sure how the higher voltage would affect it |
| 00:09:25 | Jet8810 | OK, ill just buy a charger |
| 00:09:26 | Jet8810 | thanks! |
| 00:10:27 | devZer0 | hya! |
| 00:10:35 | LinusN | yo |
| 00:10:36 | Jet8810 | hey devzero! |
| 00:10:59 | devZer0 | hey, you`re all fine? |
| 00:11:32 | Jet8810 | why, of course..we da finest out there! |
| 00:11:36 | Jet8810 | :-P |
| 00:12:05 | devZer0 | :D |
| 00:12:49 | devZer0 | know that. rockbox is a exemplary OSS project - and so are the people :D |
| 00:13:25 | * | LinusN blushes |
| 00:13:32 | Bagder | :-) |
| 00:14:00 | devZer0 | so less flamewars on the mailinglist.... |
| 00:14:21 | devZer0 | perhaps we should start one....-just for fun :D |
| 00:14:36 | Bagder | yeah, we could discuss dynamic memory ;-) |
| 00:15:22 | PsycoXul | when're we getting the configurable button system? |
| 00:15:28 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 00:15:33 | Bagder | hehe |
| 00:16:10 | devZer0 | mhh. first I want DOOM! |
| 00:16:53 | PsycoXul | i used to play doom on a 486sx20, why can't it be done on a 12mhz sh1? |
| 00:16:53 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:18:12 | devZer0 | i think the proc. isn` t really the problem ... |
| 00:18:29 | PsycoXul | ram? |
| 00:18:59 | devZer0 | mhh - no. don`t thinnk so |
| 00:19:03 | PsycoXul | i suppose between the cpu, ram, and screen |
| 00:19:29 | PsycoXul | it'd probably be "doable" sortof but slow and crappy |
| 00:20:17 | devZer0 | if others can do scene-demos with doom-level on c64 we can do that on archos, too :D |
| 00:21:14 | devZer0 | ok, enough of that joking :) i`m here because i wanted to ask if someone has some time to look at my patch and submit it to cvs if it` ok ! |
| 00:21:32 | devZer0 | bad feedback on the ML ;) |
| 00:22:36 | Bagder | what patch is that? |
| 00:23:14 | devZer0 | it` s #725102 |
| 00:24:11 | Bagder | uh |
| 00:24:31 | devZer0 | my very first one. so excuse that i` a little bit imopatient |
| 00:24:40 | Bagder | as in: no description and the patch is not browsable |
| 00:24:59 | Bagder | me check that later |
| 00:25:28 | devZer0 | mh - just tarred that because it didn`t work to upload three files... |
| 00:25:37 | PsycoXul | why would you need 3 files |
| 00:26:22 | PsycoXul | you can diff can work recursively and take new files which patch'll create when it's applied |
| 00:26:23 | devZer0 | isn`t reference to the mailing-list postings good enough? sorry, will make it better the next time, if you tell me what you dislike |
| 00:26:47 | Bagder | it is generally ok by me, I just wanted to browse it quickly now and failed |
| 00:27:03 | Bagder | I'm busy doing other stuff atm |
| 00:27:52 | Bagder | I was away from my mailbox for five days, mucho backlogged |
| 00:28:11 | devZer0 | i don`t know much about patching and that stuff - but when i did the patch at the same time the languagefiles were updated in cvs and after that i had problems to apply the latest cvs checkout |
| 00:28:50 | devZer0 | have some time for rockbox stuff atm - so i made my first patch. a second one is in the queue. |
| 00:29:24 | LinusN | which do we like the most, "Editable files" or "Independent frames"? |
| 00:29:41 | Bagder | me like alt 2 |
| 00:29:50 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:30:14 | Zagor | me too. "editable files" sound like a file/dir attribute |
| 00:30:23 | LinusN | so be it |
| 00:30:29 | Bagder | devZer0: as you see, we have lots of patches to deal with so it may just take a little time |
| 00:31:27 | devZer0 | ok - no problem :) |
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| 00:31:55 | devZer0 | my patch just does minor changes - only menu_settings.c and 2 languagefiles are patched |
| 00:32:38 | Zagor | it's the invert text fix, right? |
| 00:33:25 | devZer0 | yes - that too. there are some more menue entries updated |
| 00:34:37 | devZer0 | besides that, i have "show icons on/off" working for me - will do another patch if rb-team likes it |
| 00:35:26 | Bagder | in the dir browser you mean? |
| 00:35:55 | devZer0 | wake up early this morning and couldn` t sleep any further. so some rockbox hacking was a good start into the day :) |
| 00:36:12 | devZer0 | yes - you can switch icons in dirbrowser on/off |
| 00:36:18 | Zagor | devZer0: that's always a good start! :-) |
| 00:38:28 | devZer0 | mhh - perhaps i should stand up at 5:00am every day and do 2 hours hacking :) |
| 00:41:44 | devZer0 | ahh - badger, you submitted makefile change - thanks for that. will test that and update win32 SDK with rockbox-tools included |
| 00:42:17 | Bagder | go ahead |
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| 00:43:40 | devZer0 | I didnt know that you guys also are the guys behind curl - saw that some days ago. Great work! curl is really cool! thanks for that! |
| 00:43:50 | Bagder | :-) |
| 00:43:52 | midknight2k3 | curl? |
| 00:43:59 | Bagder | curl.haxx.se |
| 00:45:34 | midknight2k3 | Okay then |
| 00:45:41 | devZer0 | http swiss army knife |
| 00:45:54 | midknight2k3 | Well my question was, is an A-B repeat possible for the recorder 20? |
| 00:46:05 | Bagder | nope |
| 00:46:05 | Zagor | midknight2k3: yes it is |
| 00:46:11 | midknight2k3 | ya |
| 00:46:17 | Zagor | hehe |
| 00:46:20 | midknight2k3 | i hope you guys can implement it |
| 00:46:25 | midknight2k3 | After that I'm set |
| 00:46:31 | midknight2k3 | that's the only thing I need |
| 00:46:40 | Zagor | well I'm not particularly wanting it, so don't hold your breath :) |
| 00:46:45 | midknight2k3 | I did submit a feature request |
| 00:46:45 | midknight2k3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=725390 |
| 00:46:50 | Bagder | well its of course possible to implement |
| 00:46:58 | midknight2k3 | i know htat's what i thought |
| 00:47:14 | Zagor | try to find someone who can code, and submit a patch. |
| 00:47:15 | midknight2k3 | Do you have the time to stick it in a dailybuild? |
| 00:47:27 | LinusN | "stick it"? |
| 00:47:29 | Zagor | midknight2k3: we have hundreds of requests... |
| 00:47:39 | LinusN | it's not like it's done in a few minutes |
| 00:47:42 | midknight2k3 | well, put it |
| 00:47:43 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 00:48:00 | midknight2k3 | Well whatever, perhaps in v2.1 :) |
| 00:48:10 | * | Bagder counted, 294 open feature-requests... |
| 00:48:38 | devZer0 | yes - realized that today. twoooohundredninetyfour. |
| 00:48:46 | midknight2k3 | yes I just thought it might be pretty easy because you just have to tell it to loop or whatever.. but then again I don't know anything about it |
| 00:49:06 | LinusN | i'm curious about bug #725521, ideas anyone? |
| 00:49:09 | midknight2k3 | What do you think it would take? A few hours? |
| 00:49:17 | Zagor | midknight2k3: well then we could just "tell it" to play divx files too, couldn't we? ;) |
| 00:49:20 | midknight2k3 | No |
| 00:49:34 | midknight2k3 | You have to put some serious code to make the AJBR's screen into a color screen |
| 00:49:46 | LinusN | midknight2k3: as if that was the hard part |
| 00:49:51 | Zagor | yes, it would take a few hours at least. it requires changes deep into the mpeg code. |
| 00:50:09 | midknight2k3 | wow you guys really work hard on this |
| 00:51:14 | devZer0 | m2k3: many guys work hard on rockbox ;) |
| 00:51:32 | midknight2k3 | Wish I knew how to contribute :\ |
| 00:51:43 | devZer0 | hey, no problem |
| 00:51:48 | Bagder | we need all kinds of contributions, not just code |
| 00:51:59 | devZer0 | yes |
| 00:51:59 | midknight2k3 | like what? |
| 00:52:13 | Bagder | testing |
| 00:52:14 | Bagder | docs |
| 00:52:33 | Bagder | replying to people on the list and forums |
| 00:52:39 | midknight2k3 | testing on the archos simulator? |
| 00:52:47 | devZer0 | giving ideas and suggestions |
| 00:52:55 | devZer0 | yes,that too |
| 00:53:03 | midknight2k3 | docs, well, docs I was going to review it but that wouldn't really be considered a document |
| 00:53:25 | LinusN | the manual? |
| 00:53:34 | midknight2k3 | Rockbox itself |
| 00:53:45 | devZer0 | the pdf is really great! good work |
| 00:53:54 | midknight2k3 | yes it is |
| 00:53:58 | midknight2k3 | I looked at it yesterday |
| 00:55:35 | devZer0 | and have some additions for that? |
| 00:55:37 | devZer0 | ;) |
| 00:56:05 | midknight2k3 | are you talking to me? |
| 00:56:16 | devZer0 | mh - another task for contribution: translation (.lang files) |
| 00:56:23 | devZer0 | yep :) |
| 00:56:37 | midknight2k3 | Oh wow |
| 00:56:42 | midknight2k3 | You think I could do THAT? |
| 00:57:00 | midknight2k3 | I couldn't come close to writing a line of code that does anything |
| 00:57:01 | devZer0 | why not? |
| 00:57:14 | Bagder | .lang files aren't code |
| 00:57:23 | midknight2k3 | what do you have to do then? |
| 00:57:35 | midknight2k3 | Just say "TRANSLATE TO SPANISH" |
| 00:57:45 | devZer0 | yes |
| 00:57:53 | devZer0 | look at the files |
| 00:57:56 | midknight2k3 | Naw... really? |
| 00:58:21 | devZer0 | they get out of sync quickly. |
| 00:58:34 | midknight2k3 | neat |
| 00:58:42 | midknight2k3 | just say what it is and what it needs to be? |
| 00:59:02 | devZer0 | and every langfile should have some people "behind" that, so they attend to upgrade them, if something changes in the english template |
| 00:59:24 | midknight2k3 | I think I'll stick to a review for today |
| 00:59:25 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 00:59:42 | devZer0 | there is a script which helps keeping the langfiles in sync |
| 00:59:56 | midknight2k3 | that's good |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:00 | devZer0 | it is a perlscript in the tools dir |
| 01:00:27 | devZer0 | you just have to run it - and then see which entries need maintenance. |
| 01:00:45 | midknight2k3 | Like I said, a review... |
| 01:01:11 | devZer0 | then update the text - make a patch or upload the whole file - and you`re done. that is contributing to the project ;) |
| 01:01:32 | midknight2k3 | Well, I don't know maybe for a long term project heh |
| 01:02:52 | devZer0 | think this is a long term project :) i think rockbox never will be "ready" |
| 01:03:13 | midknight2k3 | that's goo |
| 01:03:19 | midknight2k3 | new features.. yay |
| 01:03:28 | LinusN | programs are never finished, they are released |
| 01:03:33 | midknight2k3 | Besides, Archos STILL hasn't touched the firwmare of their own |
| 01:04:04 | LinusN | there is no money in updating firmwares forever |
| 01:04:10 | midknight2k3 | I mean, the archos recorder is a REALLY capable machine |
| 01:04:27 | midknight2k3 | Archos thinks they ought to leave it to you ;) |
| 01:04:58 | devZer0 | yep. |
| 01:05:08 | devZer0 | why should they put work on that? |
| 01:05:32 | midknight2k3 | because you void the warranty now don't you? |
| 01:05:47 | devZer0 | warranty? |
| 01:05:49 | devZer0 | haha |
| 01:05:52 | devZer0 | i |
| 01:05:52 | Bagder | no |
| 01:06:06 | Bagder | replacing a file on my disk is not voiding my warranty |
| 01:06:11 | devZer0 | i`m used to open my devices three weeks after buying them :D |
| 01:06:23 | midknight2k3 | well if you put on unofficial firwmare and it messes up your player (no offense) it's not their fault |
| 01:06:29 | midknight2k3 | yes lol |
| 01:06:33 | midknight2k3 | i can relate |
| 01:06:33 | devZer0 | yes - rockbox doesn`t break warranty |
| 01:06:41 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 01:06:52 | midknight2k3 | you're specially licensed from Archos or something? |
| 01:07:03 | devZer0 | maybe it can brake your hdd - but i won`t break your warranty, i think ;) |
| 01:07:23 | devZer0 | no - this is completly independent from archos |
| 01:07:27 | PsycoXul | midknight2k3: what makes you think it would void the warranty? you're not opening it, you're not tampering with it, you're not modifying it |
| 01:07:51 | midknight2k3 | But you are |
| 01:07:56 | midknight2k3 | Is it archoses program? No. |
| 01:07:59 | PsycoXul | does installing linux on a store-purchased computer void it's waranty? |
| 01:08:06 | midknight2k3 | No |
| 01:08:10 | PsycoXul | it's the same thing |
| 01:08:11 | midknight2k3 | This is different though |
| 01:08:14 | PsycoXul | just installing a new OS |
| 01:08:14 | midknight2k3 | Okay sure |
| 01:08:15 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:08:15 | PsycoXul | no it's not |
| 01:08:19 | PsycoXul | it's just software |
| 01:08:32 | midknight2k3 | Sorry jeez okay i can see you're adamant |
| 01:08:35 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 01:08:38 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 01:08:44 | PsycoXul | i'm not adamant |
| 01:08:51 | midknight2k3 | SURE you're not |
| 01:08:53 | midknight2k3 | Uh huh |
| 01:08:56 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 01:08:56 | PsycoXul | just wondering what reasoning you're using |
| 01:09:01 | PsycoXul | and presenting mine :p |
| 01:09:04 | devZer0 | yes - maybe this wasnt, what archos didn` t have in mind - but who cares... |
| 01:09:12 | midknight2k3 | yes exactly |
| 01:09:22 | midknight2k3 | i don't mind voiding a warranty for Rockbox |
| 01:09:30 | midknight2k3 | matter of fact |
| 01:09:43 | midknight2k3 | Rockbox is under the list of Pros on my review :O |
| 01:09:50 | midknight2k3 | Pros |
| 01:09:51 | midknight2k3 | Excellent Sound Quality, Simple Navigation, Rockbox-Enabled |
| 01:10:27 | PsycoXul | there's also the fact that people have had their units serviced/replaced by both best buy and archos themselves even after using rockbox on it |
| 01:10:37 | devZer0 | i wouldn` t wonder, if rockbox has caused significant raise of archos-jb sales |
| 01:10:55 | midknight2k3 | yeeess I belive it has |
| 01:11:03 | PsycoXul | devZer0: probably |
| 01:11:08 | devZer0 | how would they know that rockbox was running on that? |
| 01:11:18 | PsycoXul | devZer0: exactly |
| 01:11:18 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:11:19 | midknight2k3 | they can't heh |
| 01:11:31 | midknight2k3 | But there is one little thing |
| 01:11:50 | PsycoXul | i know one person who bought their archos on my recomendation, which i wouldn't have given if it weren't for rockbox |
| 01:12:04 | midknight2k3 | forget it |
| 01:12:12 | midknight2k3 | I thought my player got messesed up too |
| 01:12:14 | PsycoXul | i bet there's lots of such cases |
| 01:12:17 | midknight2k3 | with that Doom joke |
| 01:12:20 | devZer0 | i find it is a little bit poor that rockbox project doesn` t get any support from archos |
| 01:12:20 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:12:33 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 01:12:40 | Jet8810 | that is pretty stupid on Archos' part |
| 01:12:44 | midknight2k3 | I also find it poor that you're annoying me eith the ` key instead of that ' key |
| 01:12:56 | devZer0 | psy: i know 2 of such persons |
| 01:13:03 | Jet8810 | im not |
| 01:13:06 | Jet8810 | I am using the ' key |
| 01:13:11 | PsycoXul | Jet8810: devZer0 is |
| 01:13:11 | Jet8810 | ' and " key |
| 01:13:11 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:13:14 | | Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") |
| 01:13:15 | midknight2k3 | No i mean devguy |
| 01:13:21 | Jet8810 | oh ok :) |
| 01:13:31 | Jet8810 | sry |
| 01:13:35 | midknight2k3 | But man when Doom didnt work i put it in the root of Archos Recorder |
| 01:13:38 | midknight2k3 | np |
| 01:13:42 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:13:42 | midknight2k3 | Ouch |
| 01:13:48 | PsycoXul | i was gonna try doom |
| 01:13:55 | midknight2k3 | It wouldn't go to usb I was like 'oh crap oh crap oh CRAP' |
| 01:14:00 | PsycoXul | before i copied it over i named it doom.ajz and was gonna ROLO it |
| 01:14:03 | midknight2k3 | how do I delete it lol |
| 01:14:07 | midknight2k3 | yes exactly |
| 01:14:08 | PsycoXul | and then i decided to take a look at the source before i did |
| 01:14:19 | PsycoXul | and saw it was indeed a joke |
| 01:14:20 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:14:25 | Bagder | I'm especially happy with the source package ;-) |
| 01:14:27 | midknight2k3 | Finally i figured out how to get it off |
| 01:14:29 | midknight2k3 | Here's how |
| 01:14:33 | PsycoXul | and never bothered to put it on the unit |
| 01:14:34 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:14:38 | PsycoXul | plug it in before booting |
| 01:14:38 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 01:14:47 | * | PsycoXul learned that before rockbox was rockbox |
| 01:14:53 | midknight2k3 | BUST THE BUBBLE HUH |
| 01:14:57 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 01:15:02 | midknight2k3 | I was GONNA make it dramatic |
| 01:15:10 | midknight2k3 | But NOOOO that's too much to ask |
| 01:15:13 | PsycoXul | well look see |
| 01:15:20 | PsycoXul | we worked together now to make it even more dramatic |
| 01:15:22 | midknight2k3 | i mean, dramatic? Whoa! That's offensive! |
| 01:15:25 | PsycoXul | just look at all the drama you're spewing |
| 01:15:31 | midknight2k3 | You know what? |
| 01:15:34 | midknight2k3 | That's not drama |
| 01:15:40 | midknight2k3 | It's not dramatic! |
| 01:15:43 | midknight2k3 | You blew it |
| 01:15:45 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 01:15:57 | midknight2k3 | I mean making it dramatic |
| 01:15:59 | midknight2k3 | NOOO WAY! |
| 01:16:08 | midknight2k3 | Let's let psyco go ahead and bust the bubble |
| 01:16:14 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:16:15 | midknight2k3 | So that he can call it drama |
| 01:16:21 | midknight2k3 | When it's NOT. |
| 01:16:24 | midknight2k3 | Period. |
| 01:16:31 | PsycoXul | are you on medication? |
| 01:16:33 | midknight2k3 | oh and another thing |
| 01:16:36 | midknight2k3 | Wait |
| 01:16:47 | midknight2k3 | How can you say we made it more dramatic together? |
| 01:17:02 | midknight2k3 | It was stupid and as unnest undramatic as ever could have been |
| 01:17:05 | PsycoXul | if not, are you supposed to be? |
| 01:17:13 | midknight2k3 | Ha |
| 01:17:13 | midknight2k3 | Ha |
| 01:17:22 | midknight2k3 | Haa |
| 01:17:53 | midknight2k3 | You know what? |
| 01:18:01 | midknight2k3 | You're going under the CONS list for rockbox |
| 01:18:11 | midknight2k3 | Laugh it up now eh? |
| 01:18:11 | PsycoXul | haha |
| 01:18:21 | * | Bagder looks at midknight2k3 |
| 01:18:29 | * | midknight2k3 says look away |
| 01:19:00 | PsycoXul | well i'm glad you consider me a feature of rockbox |
| 01:19:04 | PsycoXul | even if it is a negative one |
| 01:19:13 | midknight2k3 | YW |
| 01:19:19 | midknight2k3 | YOU'RE NOT A FEATURE |
| 01:19:23 | PsycoXul | you know, the universe requires balance |
| 01:19:25 | midknight2k3 | you're a bump in the road |
| 01:19:33 | midknight2k3 | You get your own heading |
| 01:19:34 | PsycoXul | if everything was all good you'd never know it |
| 01:19:41 | midknight2k3 | Yes |
| 01:19:43 | | Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBC57EF.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:19:48 | midknight2k3 | You get your own paragraph in my review |
| 01:19:52 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 01:19:53 | midknight2k3 | HAHAHAHAHAH LAUGH NOW IF YOU DARE |
| 01:19:54 | tracktheripper | Hi everybody |
| 01:19:57 | PsycoXul | hehehe |
| 01:19:58 | Bagder | hi track |
| 01:19:59 | midknight2k3 | hell-LO |
| 01:20:03 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 01:20:08 | midknight2k3 | You will be ashamed |
| 01:20:08 | PsycoXul | whats even funnier |
| 01:20:14 | midknight2k3 | That you ever messed up my drama |
| 01:20:17 | PsycoXul | is how i laugh right before you tell me to |
| 01:20:19 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 01:20:24 | tracktheripper | What the hell does "Editable Files" do in the Recording menus? |
| 01:20:25 | midknight2k3 | :PP |
| 01:20:30 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 01:20:31 | midknight2k3 | HAHAH |
| 01:20:34 | midknight2k3 | who knows? |
| 01:20:35 | Bagder | tracktheripper: its just been renamed ;-) |
| 01:20:43 | midknight2k3 | from what? |
| 01:20:48 | tracktheripper | yes, but what the fuck does it do?!?! :-) |
| 01:20:51 | PsycoXul | midknight2k3: from "editable files" |
| 01:20:57 | midknight2k3 | Um? |
| 01:21:02 | PsycoXul | the new name won't give you much more of a hint though |
| 01:21:08 | PsycoXul | but at least it's not as specifically ambiguous |
| 01:21:12 | midknight2k3 | Likew it's now capitalized? |
| 01:21:19 | PsycoXul | no |
| 01:21:20 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:21:28 | Bagder | it makes the recorded files easier to edit |
| 01:21:31 | midknight2k3 | That's it |
| 01:21:31 | tracktheripper | and Tetris finally works on my Recorder |
| 01:21:32 | Bagder | with external tools |
| 01:21:36 | tracktheripper | cheers Badger |
| 01:21:36 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
| 01:21:40 | midknight2k3 | IT"S SO FUN TETRIS |
| 01:21:43 | tracktheripper | Soundforge is my editing companion |
| 01:21:46 | PsycoXul | tetris is too small |
| 01:21:47 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 01:21:51 | midknight2k3 | We ALL have to know! |
| 01:21:54 | midknight2k3 | Tell us all! |
| 01:21:58 | midknight2k3 | Please?? |
| 01:22:04 | midknight2k3 | Tell us your editing companion! |
| 01:22:05 | PsycoXul | i use mpg123 -w and then sweep |
| 01:22:06 | tracktheripper | Badger can I submit a request "Run Soundforge on the fly?" :-) |
| 01:22:14 | tracktheripper | I use SOUNDFORGE :-) |
| 01:22:18 | midknight2k3 | WOW! |
| 01:22:19 | tracktheripper | the king of editors :-) |
| 01:22:20 | PsycoXul | i like sweep |
| 01:22:21 | midknight2k3 | (AWE) |
| 01:22:29 | PsycoXul | and i dislike windows |
| 01:22:31 | midknight2k3 | Sweep the floor |
| 01:22:39 | tracktheripper | hi LinusN |
| 01:22:47 | PsycoXul | sorry that last statement was a gross understatement |
| 01:22:53 | | Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m131.net81-67-41.noos.fr) |
| 01:23:02 | tracktheripper | there is nothing wrong with Windows |
| 01:23:05 | tracktheripper | I have Windows XP |
| 01:23:12 | tracktheripper | but been thinking of trying Linus though |
| 01:23:15 | midknight2k3 | Uh oh |
| 01:23:23 | PsycoXul | like saying "i'm not very happy about being disemboweled" |
| 01:23:24 | midknight2k3 | Looks liek the geeks ar going to battle it out :) |
| 01:23:34 | tracktheripper | a mate of mine uses Linus on his system |
| 01:23:39 | midknight2k3 | WWO |
| 01:23:41 | midknight2k3 | WOW |
| 01:23:42 | midknight2k3 | REALLY? |
| 01:23:43 | devZer0 | trackthreipper. the king of feature requests ;O) hi. why did you leave yesterday ? |
| 01:23:46 | midknight2k3 | TELL US ALL ABOUT IT |
| 01:23:49 | PsycoXul | LinusN: watch out |
| 01:23:51 | Bagder | midknight2k3: please cut it out |
| 01:23:53 | PsycoXul | LinusN: you're getting used |
| 01:23:55 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
| 01:24:06 | tracktheripper | what do you mean im the king of feature requests? |
| 01:24:07 | BoD[] | hi |
| 01:24:28 | midknight2k3 | I remember |
| 01:24:36 | midknight2k3 | That coffee bean i ate yesterday |
| 01:24:39 | devZer0 | because you make such crazy requests ;) |
| 01:24:41 | PsycoXul | tracktheripper: my parents have winxp |
| 01:24:50 | PsycoXul | tracktheripper: you can't say there's nothing wrong with it |
| 01:24:51 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:24:52 | tracktheripper | im NOT the king of feature requests as 99.999999999999% of my requests get rejected |
| 01:24:54 | tracktheripper | :( |
| 01:24:55 | PsycoXul | my grandpa does too |
| 01:25:02 | PsycoXul | they All have problems with it |
| 01:25:17 | PsycoXul | there's plenty wrong with xp |
| 01:25:22 | PsycoXul | just different wrongs than win9x |
| 01:25:22 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:25:26 | devZer0 | ok, then you maybe the king of rejected feature requests ;) |
| 01:25:39 | tracktheripper | don;t make me hit you :-) |
| 01:25:54 | PsycoXul | Windows XP has new and improved flaws |
| 01:25:59 | devZer0 | wanna fight? c`mon! ;) |
| 01:26:25 | devZer0 | :D |
| 01:26:26 | midknight2k3 | boom |
| 01:26:29 | midknight2k3 | badabing |
| 01:26:32 | midknight2k3 | pow pow |
| 01:26:36 | tracktheripper | :D |
| 01:26:36 | devZer0 | ouch |
| 01:26:38 | midknight2k3 | psyco loses! |
| 01:26:49 | midknight2k3 | poor scum ;) |
| 01:26:54 | PsycoXul | gah 20G of music and none of it seems like what i wanna listen to |
| 01:26:58 | tracktheripper | im off to have dinner be back later |
| 01:26:58 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 01:27:00 | midknight2k3 | i know the feeling |
| 01:27:02 | tracktheripper | <−−−−- Stepped Out |
| 01:27:06 | midknight2k3 | eraslly |
| 01:27:24 | midknight2k3 | i meant really |
| 01:27:31 | PsycoXul | midknight2k3: be nice man |
| 01:27:37 | PsycoXul | i've done good things for rockbox in the past |
| 01:27:37 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 01:27:38 | PsycoXul | i think |
| 01:27:39 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:27:41 | midknight2k3 | I know |
| 01:27:44 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 01:27:45 | midknight2k3 | the wink meant, joking |
| 01:27:54 | midknight2k3 | Let me put it in simpler terms for you |
| 01:27:57 | PsycoXul | ok |
| 01:27:58 | midknight2k3 | "j/k" |
| 01:28:11 | PsycoXul | "o/k/t/b/t/y" |
| 01:28:17 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 01:28:24 | PsycoXul | "h/e/h/e/h/e" |
| 01:28:28 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 01:28:36 | PsycoXul | er sorry |
| 01:28:38 | midknight2k3 | wiat |
| 01:28:59 | midknight2k3 | i hear you're the first one to test the player's double height capactiy eh? |
| 01:29:00 | PsycoXul | see you and your um whatever behaviour has put me into a weird mood where i get into um whatever behaviour |
| 01:29:06 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:29:17 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:29:23 | midknight2k3 | Do you have a definition for 'This Tests'? |
| 01:30:13 | PsycoXul | actualy i've provided a handful of ideas that've been implimented |
| 01:30:19 | PsycoXul | submitted some bug fixes |
| 01:30:26 | midknight2k3 | i know jeeshus |
| 01:30:40 | midknight2k3 | You know we all love you! :))) |
| 01:30:49 | PsycoXul | did various odd things with code and hardware in the early days |
| 01:30:49 | midknight2k3 | We all love Psyco don't we? |
| 01:31:02 | PsycoXul | which they looked at and gave me credit for but i don't think actualy got anything useful from :p |
| 01:31:19 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:31:54 | midknight2k3 | hah |
| 01:31:55 | midknight2k3 | Despite the negatives I mentioned above, the Jukebox is quite possibly the greatest piece of technological equipment I have ever owned. |
| 01:32:03 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:32:04 | midknight2k3 | - Some Weird Guy With No Gadgets |
| 01:32:10 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:32:12 | midknight2k3 | (not me!) |
| 01:32:26 | PsycoXul | well ya know |
| 01:32:39 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 01:32:51 | devZer0 | m2k3: yes-i love my juke-i see it like you. i never had a device which blew my mind that much :) |
| 01:32:57 | PsycoXul | never before has there been a device with such high density of music |
| 01:33:05 | midknight2k3 | that's not my quote tho! |
| 01:33:08 | PsycoXul | beside the human mind of course |
| 01:33:16 | midknight2k3 | I do love it but I didn't make that |
| 01:33:21 | PsycoXul | but the music in your mind isn't as easily sharable |
| 01:33:25 | devZer0 | heared that hitachi sells 80gb hdds (2.5") |
| 01:33:28 | devZer0 | :D |
| 01:33:37 | midknight2k3 | getting a bit philosophical there ;) |
| 01:33:48 | Bagder | the 80GB one is pretty expensive |
| 01:33:51 | PsycoXul | who is |
| 01:33:55 | midknight2k3 | you |
| 01:34:01 | midknight2k3 | ' but the music in your mind isn't as easily sharable' |
| 01:34:17 | PsycoXul | whats philosophical about that? |
| 01:34:18 | PsycoXul | it's true |
| 01:34:31 | midknight2k3 | i know |
| 01:34:38 | midknight2k3 | on happier note |
| 01:34:48 | PsycoXul | well the clock says it's time to cloooose noowww |
| 01:34:49 | midknight2k3 | I'm updating MY archos review with three words |
| 01:34:59 | PsycoXul | i guess i better gooo, nowwww.... |
| 01:34:59 | midknight2k3 | "Beware of PsycoXul" |
| 01:34:59 | devZer0 | apropos "music in my mind" does anybody know that song from adam f? |
| 01:35:04 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 01:35:09 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 01:35:25 | PsycoXul | hmm i don't think so dev |
| 01:35:25 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:35:44 | midknight2k3 | What was once 'You just got to upgrade to Rockbox… You have to! (Beware of 'PsycoXul') |
| 01:35:48 | midknight2k3 | never mind |
| 01:35:53 | midknight2k3 | that's the finished product |
| 01:35:53 | devZer0 | great album. my "DnB-reference" for years now... |
| 01:36:12 | midknight2k3 | yer leaving psyco? |
| 01:36:54 | PsycoXul | hmm? |
| 01:37:07 | PsycoXul | i should call smallparts and order the stuff i need to build um... something |
| 01:37:10 | midknight2k3 | You said it's time to go or something |
| 01:37:13 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 01:37:15 | midknight2k3 | Tell me! |
| 01:37:20 | PsycoXul | no that was a song |
| 01:37:20 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:37:21 | midknight2k3 | smallparts? |
| 01:37:24 | PsycoXul | smallparts.com |
| 01:37:47 | midknight2k3 | *embarrased* |
| 01:37:59 | midknight2k3 | What is that blue thing? |
| 01:38:05 | midknight2k3 | A shocker? |
| 01:38:13 | PsycoXul | what blue thing? |
| 01:38:29 | midknight2k3 | What are you going to make? |
| 01:38:33 | midknight2k3 | 'Something'? |
| 01:38:41 | PsycoXul | i'm not sure |
| 01:38:54 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 01:38:55 | PsycoXul | i've called it many things |
| 01:39:00 | PsycoXul | but i couldn't say which is right if any |
| 01:39:01 | midknight2k3 | How can you know what to make but not be suer? |
| 01:39:09 | midknight2k3 | Give me an idea of what it is |
| 01:39:13 | PsycoXul | it's a funny story |
| 01:39:18 | midknight2k3 | tell me tell me |
| 01:39:25 | PsycoXul | i was researching alternative sciences |
| 01:39:32 | midknight2k3 | WIAT |
| 01:39:34 | PsycoXul | and a couple ideas connected in my head |
| 01:39:36 | midknight2k3 | (brain overload) |
| 01:39:39 | midknight2k3 | okay go on |
| 01:39:44 | PsycoXul | and i got this image in my head of something |
| 01:39:56 | PsycoXul | and that triggered the recall of a dream i had years ago |
| 01:40:01 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:40:02 | PsycoXul | which started in the present time |
| 01:40:02 | midknight2k3 | go on |
| 01:40:11 | PsycoXul | and centered all around the thing i just got the image in my head of |
| 01:40:20 | midknight2k3 | what the? |
| 01:40:25 | PsycoXul | yeah weird stuff |
| 01:40:26 | midknight2k3 | Get to the point lol |
| 01:40:31 | PsycoXul | it's true though |
| 01:40:33 | midknight2k3 | gonna build it? |
| 01:40:36 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 01:40:41 | midknight2k3 | What was it though? |
| 01:40:44 | midknight2k3 | What does it do? |
| 01:41:02 | PsycoXul | in the dream it was the first practical implimentation of a principle or principles |
| 01:41:13 | PsycoXul | which became the basis for a new technology that completely transformed the world |
| 01:41:28 | PsycoXul | made government, commerce, and labor all obsolete |
| 01:41:33 | tracktheripper | hi |
| 01:41:38 | PsycoXul | not to mention every aspect of technological acheivement that came before |
| 01:41:40 | midknight2k3 | implimentation... technology.... principle(s)... transformed... labor!! AAAH! BIG WORDS! |
| 01:41:47 | midknight2k3 | Whoa |
| 01:41:52 | midknight2k3 | You gonna bild that? |
| 01:41:55 | BoD[] | (so *that*'s the "psyco" in "psycoxul"?) |
| 01:41:58 | PsycoXul | heheh |
| 01:41:59 | tracktheripper | just had my dinner :-) |
| 01:42:06 | PsycoXul | yeah well we'll see if it works |
| 01:42:06 | midknight2k3 | What was it? |
| 01:42:10 | midknight2k3 | Green Beans? |
| 01:42:22 | PsycoXul | nah |
| 01:42:22 | tracktheripper | chicken and mushroom pies, chips and peas :-) |
| 01:42:25 | midknight2k3 | You mean that you'll make it functional too? |
| 01:42:27 | PsycoXul | it's electromagnetic |
| 01:42:34 | midknight2k3 | neat ripper |
| 01:42:40 | midknight2k3 | i don't get it |
| 01:42:42 | PsycoXul | and i think it works partialy by some spintronic principles |
| 01:42:49 | midknight2k3 | Draw a photo in paint and send it over lol |
| 01:42:56 | PsycoXul | i don't have paint |
| 01:42:57 | PsycoXul | i have gimp |
| 01:43:01 | devZer0 | heard that it was the 60. birthday of LSD some days ago....mhhhh |
| 01:43:05 | midknight2k3 | draw it then in gimp |
| 01:43:09 | PsycoXul | no. |
| 01:43:09 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:43:14 | tracktheripper | midknight one feature request that I sent that everyone liked was the Screen Invert mode :-) |
| 01:43:16 | PsycoXul | see the world can't have it |
| 01:43:21 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 01:43:25 | midknight2k3 | I loved that feature |
| 01:43:36 | tracktheripper | thanks 2 me :-) |
| 01:43:41 | midknight2k3 | You had them make it? |
| 01:43:48 | midknight2k3 | if it wasn't for you there'd be no invert? |
| 01:43:48 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 01:43:51 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 01:43:53 | tracktheripper | yep |
| 01:44:06 | midknight2k3 | COOL DUUDE ROCK ON G DOGG |
| 01:44:09 | devZer0 | yes - this is funny, isn` t it? |
| 01:44:10 | midknight2k3 | I mean, neat. |
| 01:44:18 | tracktheripper | but then the Player owners wanted Screen Invert as well! |
| 01:44:22 | midknight2k3 | hahah |
| 01:44:30 | midknight2k3 | did they get it? |
| 01:44:36 | devZer0 | even if you can`t code - there are things inside rb which wouldn`t be there without YOU |
| 01:44:36 | midknight2k3 | no they didnt |
| 01:44:48 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 01:45:23 | devZer0 | i`m not quity shure, but regarding the inverted line cursor |
| 01:45:28 | midknight2k3 | wonder if the egg got accepted |
| 01:45:34 | devZer0 | it was a suggestion from me some time ago. |
| 01:45:38 | BoD[] | question : is the "video inverse selected line" feature in the code ? or is it a patch ? |
| 01:45:39 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 01:45:47 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:45:47 | midknight2k3 | is it in the dailybuilds now? |
| 01:45:53 | Bagder | BoD[]: its in the cvs already |
| 01:46:06 | midknight2k3 | that means that its in a dailybuild? |
| 01:46:07 | BoD[] | ok thank you :) |
| 01:46:18 | PsycoXul | i asked for an inverted char cursor years ago |
| 01:46:20 | tracktheripper | One good feature request was "Increase USB1.1 file transfer speed by plugging a broadband modem into the Archos |
| 01:46:21 | devZer0 | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/ |
| 01:46:23 | PsycoXul | on the player |
| 01:46:23 | midknight2k3 | really |
| 01:46:28 | Bagder | see my digest preview => http://rockbox.haxx.se/digest/recent.html |
| 01:46:28 | PsycoXul | and i don't think it ever happened :/ |
| 01:46:48 | midknight2k3 | Wiat |
| 01:46:51 | tracktheripper | no. The reply was "No, USB1.1 is USB1.1 regardless over what its connected to" |
| 01:46:52 | midknight2k3 | Wait i mean |
| 01:47:13 | devZer0 | don` t really know, if it is in, because of this pic: http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/reverse_ui.png |
| 01:47:14 | devZer0 | :) |
| 01:47:16 | midknight2k3 | will everyone quiet down one sec and let me ask one question? |
| 01:47:27 | tracktheripper | Go ahead midknighty |
| 01:47:38 | BoD[] | wow there's a digest :)) |
| 01:47:44 | BoD[] | cool! |
| 01:47:46 | midknight2k3 | Is the inverted cursor line thing in todays dailybuild? |
| 01:47:56 | tracktheripper | YES# |
| 01:47:57 | devZer0 | hey, the digest is great ! |
| 01:47:59 | Bagder | BoD[]: its not really offical yet, but I'm working on it |
| 01:48:08 | PsycoXul | see isn't it funny |
| 01:48:23 | tracktheripper | the IVL IS IN THE DAILY BUILDS |
| 01:48:26 | midknight2k3 | what's different about Version 1 or 2? |
| 01:48:42 | PsycoXul | people are more excited about inverted lines and displays than a new technology that changed the world more than anything else in human history |
| 01:48:48 | BoD[] | bagder : ok well it's great :) |
| 01:48:49 | Bagder | midknight2k3: v1 and v2 what? |
| 01:48:59 | Bagder | BoD[]: I'm glad you like it |
| 01:49:04 | PsycoXul | that's exactly why the world can't have it. |
| 01:49:07 | midknight2k3 | devZer0's pic |
| 01:49:09 | BoD[] | :) |
| 01:49:16 | tracktheripper | lol the world does love inverted lines :-) |
| 01:49:41 | tracktheripper | ive set up the RSPCAJB |
| 01:49:43 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 01:49:53 | BoD[] | bagder : maybe it should be the other way (recent days go to the top of the page) ? |
| 01:50:21 | Bagder | BoD[]: hehe, yes we've discussed that around a bit, and I'm trying this order right now on Zagor's request... |
| 01:50:33 | BoD[] | ah ok :) |
| 01:50:46 | Bagder | I think I prefer the reversed order myself too |
| 01:51:00 | tracktheripper | Badger when can you make playlist of individual songs like in the Archos firmware? |
| 01:51:15 | BoD[] | yeah it's more "standard" |
| 01:51:19 | Bagder | when the code has been written and submitted, then reviewed, applied and committed |
| 01:51:25 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 01:51:42 | tracktheripper | well the only way so far is to rename the QUEUE_FILE after queueing up some songs |
| 01:51:47 | devZer0 | badger: the makefile/configure changes won`t work for me. i copied the tools-binaries to c:\cygwin\bin - but the generated Makefile still references ../tool |
| 01:52:06 | Bagder | devZer0: remove the tools dir too |
| 01:52:12 | Bagder | it checks for that one first |
| 01:52:39 | devZer0 | mhhh - but if s.o. makes a cvs checkout he checksout toolsdir too... |
| 01:53:07 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 01:53:13 | midknight2k3 | What does 'editable files' do? |
| 01:53:13 | Bagder | so why checkout the tools if he wouldn't need it? |
| 01:53:37 | devZer0 | youre right. |
| 01:53:47 | devZer0 | i have a checkout script in my win32 sdk. |
| 01:53:51 | devZer0 | will remove that line |
| 01:53:56 | Bagder | ah, right |
| 01:53:59 | midknight2k3 | What does 'editable files' do? |
| 01:54:12 | tracktheripper | it makes files that can be editided |
| 01:54:13 | Bagder | midknight2k3: records file more suitable for external editing |
| 01:54:23 | midknight2k3 | How so? |
| 01:54:33 | Bagder | see the digest, 21-apr-2003, item 3 |
| 01:54:37 | tracktheripper | saves you having to decode it to WAV prior to editing :-) |
| 01:55:13 | midknight2k3 | Would it sund better overall with it on or off |
| 01:55:21 | Bagder | it makes no sound diff |
| 01:55:25 | midknight2k3 | huh |
| 01:55:26 | devZer0 | badger: errrr, but configure script is in tools dir... !? |
| 01:55:28 | Bagder | only a slightly bigger file, afaik |
| 01:55:37 | Bagder | devZer0: uuuuuh, right |
| 01:55:43 | tracktheripper | Why is it that when you decode an MP3 back to WAV the file suddenly increases to sizes such as 40Mb? Where do the extra 1s and 0s come from? |
| 01:55:51 | Bagder | devZer0: but include only that one in the tools dir |
| 01:55:53 | devZer0 | :) |
| 01:55:55 | tracktheripper | if they have been removed during compression? |
| 01:56:16 | devZer0 | ok |
| 01:56:29 | Bagder | tracktheripper: they're added when uncompressed. How do you think zip files "grow" when uncompressed? |
| 01:56:32 | LinusN | tracktheripper: extra? |
| 01:56:51 | midknight2k3 | be back in a bit |
| 01:56:55 | midknight2k3 | im sur you wont miss me ;) |
| 01:56:58 | tracktheripper | well when you compress a WAV to MP3, 1s and 0s are removed to make the file smaller |
| 01:57:19 | | Quit midknight2k3 () |
| 01:57:20 | Bagder | yes, and put back again when you uncompress |
| 01:57:23 | tracktheripper | so when you decode a MP3 back to WAV where do the "removed 1s and 0s" magically come from? |
| 01:57:26 | Bagder | that's what compression is |
| 01:57:31 | BoD[] | :) |
| 01:57:50 | tracktheripper | so decompressing an MP3 back to WAV restores the sound quality as well? |
| 01:57:54 | Bagder | no |
| 01:58:01 | tracktheripper | if the missing 1s and 0s are put back? |
| 01:58:14 | Bagder | they're not put back on the same place as originally |
| 01:58:25 | tracktheripper | you've just contradicted yourself now :-) |
| 01:58:30 | Bagder | no |
| 01:58:42 | Bagder | there are lossy and non-lossy compressions |
| 01:58:46 | Bagder | mpeg is lossy |
| 01:58:51 | BoD[] | the data in a mp3 mean different things that in a wav |
| 01:58:59 | tracktheripper | you said a "decompressed MP3" has the 1s and 0s put back :-) |
| 01:59:06 | devZer0 | :P |
| 01:59:10 | LinusN | tracktheripper: are you kidding us? |
| 01:59:21 | devZer0 | :) traaaack ! |
| 01:59:23 | devZer0 | ;) |
| 01:59:31 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:22 | tracktheripper | ok, so MPEG is lossy |
| 02:00:41 | tracktheripper | when a WAV is compressed some 1s and 0s are removed and discarded never to be seen again :-) |
| 02:00:50 | tracktheripper | thats how a file is reduced by 10 times in size |
| 02:01:02 | Bagder | right |
| 02:01:10 | devZer0 | in real, it is a little bit more complicated |
| 02:01:14 | tracktheripper | but when you turn the MP3 back to WAV |
| 02:01:34 | Bagder | then its just like when it makes sound from the mp3 |
| 02:01:43 | tracktheripper | the file size increases by 10 times, so the "discarded" 1s and 0s come running back :-) |
| 02:01:51 | devZer0 | yes |
| 02:02:04 | Bagder | not all of them |
| 02:02:13 | tracktheripper | so therefore sound quality is restored if the discarded data somehow returns :-) |
| 02:02:20 | Bagder | nope |
| 02:02:24 | Bagder | since mpeg is lossy |
| 02:02:30 | Bagder | you lose data on each compression |
| 02:02:31 | BoD[] | they are generated, and try to "sound like" the original |
| 02:02:36 | tracktheripper | ((thumps Bagder)) :-) |
| 02:02:44 | Bagder | night |
| 02:02:47 | LinusN | tracktheripper: i tried to explain this a while ago in the mailing list: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-07/0050.shtml |
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| 02:03:17 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 02:03:54 | LinusN | when you think of it, it's somewhat similar to JPEG image compression |
| 02:04:00 | tracktheripper | just read it LinusN |
| 02:04:27 | devZer0 | badger: now it works ! |
| 02:04:30 | tracktheripper | ((sulks)) |
| 02:04:47 | devZer0 | will need to change rb-update script, too |
| 02:05:10 | devZer0 | oh - signed off....whoops |
| 02:05:58 | tracktheripper | LinusN there is a rejected request "Auto Volume Limiter" |
| 02:06:06 | LinusN | yes? |
| 02:06:24 | tracktheripper | well isnt that what the "Auto Volume" does on the Recorders? |
| 02:06:29 | LinusN | no |
| 02:06:44 | tracktheripper | well the Auto Volume lowers the volume if its 2 loud |
| 02:07:20 | LinusN | well, a limiter is something slightly different |
| 02:07:28 | LinusN | at least in my world |
| 02:07:53 | tracktheripper | I was thinking, it should be possible as you just prevent the volume increasing once a certain volume is reached |
| 02:08:57 | LinusN | but that equalizes the volume, since it also raises the volume on silent tracks |
| 02:09:08 | tracktheripper | ohh |
| 02:09:10 | LinusN | s/tracks/parts/ |
| 02:09:10 | tracktheripper | :( |
| 02:09:15 | tracktheripper | >:( |
| 02:09:36 | LinusN | a limiter is only supposed to compress loud parts and keep the silent parts |
| 02:09:37 | devZer0 | mhh - do we really miss such feature? |
| 02:09:52 | LinusN | i don't |
| 02:09:52 | devZer0 | there are mp3 normalizers afaik |
| 02:09:54 | tracktheripper | well we can't live without inverted video lines :-) |
| 02:09:58 | devZer0 | me too. |
| 02:10:18 | LinusN | tracktheripper: did you read my explanation? |
| 02:10:24 | tracktheripper | yes |
| 02:10:26 | devZer0 | yes. and in my world, too loud doesn`t even exist ;) i was on a party sunday evening and recognized, that "too loud" and "too loud" can be very different. really depends on the soundsystem :D |
| 02:10:29 | tracktheripper | makes perfect |
| 02:10:31 | tracktheripper | sense |
| 02:10:37 | LinusN | so no questions then |
| 02:10:45 | PsycoXul | yeah i think the auto-volume is more like a slow compressor or something right? |
| 02:10:59 | LinusN | PsycoXul: sort of |
| 02:11:06 | tracktheripper | ok correct me if im wrong but does decompressing an MP3 require interpolation to restore missing data? |
| 02:11:11 | LinusN | except that no compression is taking place |
| 02:11:27 | LinusN | tracktheripper: sort of |
| 02:11:32 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:11:53 | tracktheripper | I do know what "interpolation" means :-) |
| 02:12:15 | BoD[] | ahah :) |
| 02:12:47 | LinusN | tracktheripper: the missing data isn't really restored |
| 02:12:57 | tracktheripper | Interpolation is when missing data is "guessed" by working out an average either side of the "missing data" |
| 02:13:22 | LinusN | the missing data is removed for ever |
| 02:14:12 | tracktheripper | im saying when you decompress an MP3 |
| 02:15:24 | tracktheripper | LinusN i was thinking it may be worth removing the "Codecs" part from Feature Requests since we know nothink apart from MP3 will play |
| 02:15:37 | tracktheripper | and you will never make it play WMA or ATRAC3 or the like |
| 02:15:48 | PsycoXul | thats not true |
| 02:15:58 | PsycoXul | there's still a chance that some day somebody'll find out the info for programming the DSP |
| 02:16:06 | PsycoXul | untill then they can keep rejecting requests if they want to |
| 02:16:07 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 02:16:09 | tracktheripper | well ill believe it when I see it :-) |
| 02:16:23 | PsycoXul | well |
| 02:16:33 | PsycoXul | somebody could contact micronas |
| 02:16:37 | PsycoXul | and license the chip |
| 02:16:40 | tracktheripper | yea right |
| 02:16:41 | PsycoXul | so they get the SDK |
| 02:16:42 | tracktheripper | :P |
| 02:16:50 | PsycoXul | probably cost a lot though |
| 02:16:54 | PsycoXul | and they probably make you sign and NDA |
| 02:16:56 | LinusN | but we'll never be able to release the source code |
| 02:17:00 | devZer0 | mhh - what amount will that be? |
| 02:17:04 | tracktheripper | but the chip is NOT a flash chip is it? |
| 02:17:12 | tracktheripper | so if its not a flash chip how can it be reprogrammed? |
| 02:17:21 | tracktheripper | if it is hard-coded to play Mp3 and only Mp3 |
| 02:17:27 | LinusN | we can download code to RAM |
| 02:17:28 | PsycoXul | it is programmable |
| 02:17:54 | PsycoXul | it has a small amount of space for arbitrary code |
| 02:18:02 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 02:18:05 | PsycoXul | what is it, 1kword on the players chip, and 4kwords on the recorder's? |
| 02:18:33 | LinusN | PsycoXul: correct |
| 02:18:34 | tracktheripper | just use the 2 lines of character cells as a peak meter on the Player :-) |
| 02:18:36 | devZer0 | something around that. that is the reason, why ogg-vorbis never will be possible... |
| 02:18:39 | tracktheripper | ((make it switchible of course)) |
| 02:18:54 | PsycoXul | devZer0: i dunno |
| 02:19:32 | PsycoXul | it seems like it could be possible for the firmware to manage some voodoo between the MAS chip's code ram and the unit's ram |
| 02:19:56 | PsycoXul | then again maybe not |
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| 02:20:27 | devZer0 | perhaps. i saw realtime sphere animation on c64 - so why shouldn`t Mircronas MAS do ogg-vorbis with some magic :D |
| 02:20:48 | BoD[] | never say never |
| 02:21:26 | devZer0 | yes. a very basic principle! |
| 02:23:07 | LinusN | the c64 sure was fun to code on |
| 02:23:23 | BoD[] | i still listen to c64 music |
| 02:23:57 | devZer0 | a friend of mine is still dj`ing with that piece of hardware :) |
| 02:23:58 | PsycoXul | i hate BASIC |
| 02:24:10 | PsycoXul | yeah that SID chip makes some cool noise |
| 02:24:10 | devZer0 | basic? |
| 02:24:16 | BoD[] | nobody likes basic ;) |
| 02:24:28 | devZer0 | and nobody coded in basic on c64 :) |
| 02:25:03 | PsycoXul | i'd like to rig up a way to control my c64's SID chip with like a keyboard or something |
| 02:25:26 | PsycoXul | a cheap way |
| 02:25:27 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:25:35 | devZer0 | look at: www.sidsyn.com |
| 02:25:47 | PsycoXul | i know there's some sorta cards you can get for PC's that have a SID or a pair of SID's on them |
| 02:26:43 | devZer0 | must promote my friends website a little bit :) |
| 02:26:44 | PsycoXul | and i've got 2 or 3 SID emulators, but they're just not the real thing heh |
| 02:27:13 | BoD[] | i use the emulators (sidplay) |
| 02:27:29 | BoD[] | i'm not sure they're accurate, but they do sound good :) |
| 02:27:45 | devZer0 | yes. sound of them is really authentic |
| 02:27:48 | BoD[] | anyway the sound would differ between two actual units so... |
| 02:28:25 | BoD[] | i also love gameboy music by the way |
| 02:28:44 | BoD[] | it's amazing what they can do with that a "low" chip |
| 02:28:54 | devZer0 | yep? you know firestARTer ? :) |
| 02:28:56 | PsycoXul | both of the SID emulators i have sound different |
| 02:29:13 | BoD[] | firestarter ? |
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| 02:30:10 | devZer0 | he`s the sidsyn guy and he makes gameboy music - live! :D |
| 02:30:41 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 02:30:59 | PsycoXul | that "Sawtooth Bassline" sounds like the theme for Nonterraqueous |
| 02:31:15 | PsycoXul | well the end does anyway |
| 02:31:30 | PsycoXul | PPV also had a little thing with music that sounded a lot like that as well |
| 02:33:15 | PsycoXul | ok i guess it's all those basslines |
| 02:33:16 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:33:37 | PsycoXul | or well the last sawtooth one sounds different |
| 02:33:52 | devZer0 | http://www.lo-bat.be/enschede/DSC04692.JPG |
| 02:34:10 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:34:10 | devZer0 | :D |
| 02:34:41 | PsycoXul | i can make my guitar do some interesting sounds that remind me of the SID |
| 02:35:13 | devZer0 | yes? do you have some clips? |
| 02:35:16 | LinusN | PsycoXul: have you heard Machinae Supremacy? |
| 02:35:28 | PsycoXul | LinusN: yeah you guys gave me a website and i downloaded a few tracks |
| 02:35:47 | PsycoXul | devZer0: lemme make one |
| 02:35:56 | PsycoXul | i got a recording, i just need to cut some of it out |
| 02:36:07 | PsycoXul | but this sid_it_by_firestarter.mp3 is good |
| 02:36:07 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:36:31 | PsycoXul | hmmm |
| 02:36:32 | PsycoXul | R030330220716.mp3 R030331141701.mp3 R030401203238.mp3 R030401211645.mp3 |
| 02:36:32 | PsycoXul | R030330221126.mp3 R030401201201.mp3 R030401210530.mp3 |
| 02:36:36 | PsycoXul | which one's it in |
| 02:36:36 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:38:30 | PsycoXul | oh wait i already made a clip.. it's got a little more in it, and it's sorta longish for what it is but heh |
| 02:38:56 | PsycoXul | and wheather or not it really sounds anything like a SID may be a matter of opinion :p |
| 02:39:45 | PsycoXul | http://psyco.yi.org:8042/mar-31-jam_end.mp3 |
| 02:40:22 | devZer0 | ahh. thanks |
| 02:45:26 | devZer0 | slooow :) |
| 02:45:40 | PsycoXul | heh yeah sorry crappy DSL |
| 02:47:01 | devZer0 | dsl? have dsl too, but i don`t find it crappy. it is 768/128kbit and i find it quite ok. |
| 02:47:13 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:47:15 | PsycoXul | this is 384/96 |
| 02:47:23 | PsycoXul | we're too far from the CO |
| 02:47:36 | PsycoXul | they shouldn't have given it to us |
| 02:48:00 | LinusN | mine is 512/512 |
| 02:48:03 | LinusN | but now i am on a crappy dialup :-( |
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| 02:49:05 | devZer01 | hee - i`m logged in twice? |
| 02:49:24 | devZer01 | :) |
| 02:49:28 | devZer01 | my connection hung up and i reconnected |
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| 02:50:56 | devZer01 | sounds funny |
| 02:52:01 | Mode | "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 02:52:01 | devZer01 | what about a guest-session with "pressplayontape" ? |
| 02:52:12 | LinusN | kick devZer0 |
| 02:52:24 | devZer01 | yes,ok :) |
| 02:52:31 | Kick | (#rockbox devZer0 :LinusN) by LinusN!~linus@labb.contactor.se |
| 02:53:03 | LinusN | that felt good :-) |
| 02:53:09 | devZer01 | ouch |
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| 02:57:58 | devZer01 | linus, i`m thining about trying to implement "delete while playing hotkey" - it was a RFE by me and others like this, too. but i have no idea, which keycombination is best for that. Since there are plans to change f2 and f3 - can you give me a suggestion? |
| 02:58:19 | devZer01 | or s/o else... |
| 02:59:12 | LinusN | use any key you like, we'll change it later |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:26 | devZer01 | I didn`t look at the code yet, but is there a global "key concept" in rockbox? i.e. how keyboard input & stuff is handled? |
| 03:00:54 | devZer01 | can i find that out easily? i want to be conform with your concepts |
| 03:02:47 | LinusN | we are developing a concept now, and it will be published and discussed very soon |
| 03:03:06 | devZer01 | should i better wait then? |
| 03:03:44 | devZer01 | perhaps this saves work for both - me and the others... |
| 03:04:06 | LinusN | your call |
| 03:04:41 | devZer01 | ok :) |
| 03:04:45 | LinusN | gotta sleep now |
| 03:04:46 | LinusN | nite |
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| 03:06:07 | devZer01 | will do that too - goodnight & bye |
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| 08:51:54 | calpefrosch | morning |
| 08:52:10 | Bagder | 'lo |
| 08:52:43 | calpefrosch | Zagor still sleeping ? ;-) |
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| 09:14:37 | Schnueff | moin |
| 09:15:51 | webmind | morning |
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| 09:34:40 | Quelsaruk | morning |
| 09:34:47 | Bagder | hi Quelsaruk |
| 09:35:04 | Quelsaruk | i have a question about the manual |
| 09:35:46 | Quelsaruk | should we have 1 'current version' manual and a 'bleeding edge manual'? |
| 09:36:18 | Bagder | one for 2.0 and one for the bleeding edge, yes |
| 09:36:30 | Quelsaruk | or could we for example write all new features commited to cvs in blue? |
| 09:36:54 | Bagder | I vote for two files |
| 09:37:20 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 09:38:39 | Schnueff | hm, Bagder, what about reversing order on news.html? |
| 09:38:44 | Bagder | Zagor: would you mind if I changed head.t to allow local CSS files in the web tree? |
| 09:38:48 | Schnueff | good or no good? |
| 09:39:06 | Zagor | Bagder: any specific reason? |
| 09:39:07 | Bagder | Schnueff: yeah, everyone except Zagor prefer that, including me ;-) |
| 09:39:12 | Schnueff | heh |
| 09:39:28 | Bagder | Zagor: it would perhaps make the global one less cluttered |
| 09:39:45 | Bagder | thus allow me to play around like a mad man in the digest folder on my own |
| 09:40:37 | Zagor | Bagder: ok. but I'd prefer if all pages use the same global css once you've done experimenting |
| 09:40:57 | Bagder | well it would use the global one plus a local one in that case |
| 09:41:34 | Zagor | is it so much that is explicitly digest-only? |
| 09:41:47 | Bagder | no |
| 09:42:09 | Zagor | putting it locally only means more work when/if we want to reuse it somewhere else |
| 09:44:59 | Bagder | ok, I'll scrap it |
| 09:45:24 | Bagder | but I'll use the previous order of items |
| 09:45:33 | Bagder | the most recent on top |
| 09:48:22 | Bagder | I've made a set of macros for my editing use anyway, so I can easily define all classes etc |
| 09:48:30 | Bagder | redefine |
| 10:00 |
| 10:05:31 | matsl | Zagor: tried the ajz? |
| 10:05:58 | Bagder | anyone has any comments on the digest before I fire away an announcement to the list about it? |
| 10:07:23 | Quelsaruk | ummm |
| 10:07:32 | Quelsaruk | which digest? |
| 10:07:43 | Bagder | oh check out this => http://rockbox.haxx.se/digest/ |
| 10:08:25 | Zagor | matsl: ah, no i forgot. will test now. |
| 10:08:50 | Zagor | Bagder: it's the wrong order :-) |
| 10:09:06 | Bagder | haha |
| 10:09:12 | Bagder | you've been voted down |
| 10:09:17 | Zagor | bohoo |
| 10:09:56 | Quelsaruk | i will close my big mouth and make no comments on this ;) |
| 10:10:27 | Bagder | all dates are anchors, for easy linking |
| 10:11:09 | Hes | Very Cool. The digest, that is. |
| 10:11:23 | matsl | Bagder: looks good. hope you'll have the time to keep it updated ;-) |
| 10:11:35 | Bagder | yeah, the future will tell |
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| 10:13:16 | Bagder | it isn't that hard, if I just keep it updated all the time and don't get lagged behind |
| 10:14:08 | Zagor | no more vacations for you ;) |
| 10:14:28 | Bagder | oops ;-) |
| 10:18:42 | Bagder | I'll just have to trust that people will back me up when I fail to keep up myself |
| 10:19:54 | Zagor | does anyone know which kernel redhat 9.0 uses? |
| 10:20:06 | Bagder | uhm |
| 10:20:16 | Bagder | lemme check... |
| 10:21:29 | Bagder | nah, can't seem to find it |
| 10:21:36 | Bagder | I think it is 2.4.20 |
| 10:21:50 | Bagder | rh-patched of course |
| 10:21:59 | Zagor | right. 2.4.20-8 |
| 10:22:43 | Zagor | then my patch should apply cleanly |
| 10:23:02 | Bagder | unless the rh did something there |
| 10:23:24 | Bagder | not very likely of course |
| 10:23:40 | Bagder | got any comments on it? |
| 10:24:01 | Zagor | no. that part of the code is a dark dusty corner nobody ever touches. :-) |
| 10:24:57 | Zagor | no comments yet |
| 10:24:57 | Zagor | I expect to have to resubmit it a few times :-) |
| 10:25:11 | Zagor | i'll announce it on the rockbox and archos list too. |
| 10:25:11 | Bagder | isn't there a dedicated maintainer? |
| 10:25:22 | Zagor | no, only for the vfat portion. |
| 10:25:28 | Bagder | argh |
| 10:25:32 | Zagor | indeed |
| 10:25:52 | Bagder | btw, there was a neat linux journal article on 2.6 in the recent issue |
| 10:26:05 | Bagder | good for an outsider |
| 10:26:06 | Zagor | i mailed the vfat maintainer months ago, but never got reply so I'm not sure how active he is anyway |
| 10:26:15 | Zagor | ok |
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| 10:33:54 | calpefrosch | hi Zagor |
| 10:34:00 | Zagor | hi |
| 10:34:11 | calpefrosch | do you have some time today |
| 10:34:32 | Zagor | yes, I think so. at least now... :-) |
| 10:35:11 | calpefrosch | ok, then. this search is working for me, but Ih think it should be more "rockbox-like" |
| 10:36:10 | calpefrosch | hanging in the menu, using the .rockbox-dir and starting to play immediately |
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| 10:36:45 | calpefrosch | I don't know how to extend the menu |
| 10:37:25 | Zagor | sorry, I haven't tried the search yet. you have to be more specific. |
| 10:38:12 | calpefrosch | i have created a over-all playlist with "find -name *.mp > search.idx" |
| 10:39:09 | calpefrosch | and then I can search for some text with my recorder - all lines containing this word are copied to another playlist |
| 10:39:23 | calpefrosch | e.g. result.m3u |
| 10:39:33 | Zagor | right |
| 10:40:07 | calpefrosch | but now I start the search when clicking on this .idx-file |
| 10:40:23 | calpefrosch | there should be a menu "search" |
| 10:40:41 | Zagor | ah |
| 10:40:57 | calpefrosch | and the index-file could be (re)build with rockbox |
| 10:41:12 | calpefrosch | like the updatedb / locate thing in lunix |
| 10:41:18 | calpefrosch | ups, linux |
| 10:41:27 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 10:41:29 | calpefrosch | i this ok ? |
| 10:41:45 | * | calpefrosch is orting his fingers |
| 10:41:56 | PsycoXul | you mean like going to the root, selecting "create playlist" and then renaming root.m3u to search.idx or somesuch? |
| 10:41:58 | Bagder | I like the simplicity |
| 10:42:12 | PsycoXul | or did i miss something heh |
| 10:42:27 | Zagor | look in apps/main_menu.c |
| 10:42:27 | Zagor | the menu definition is at the bottom |
| 10:42:27 | Zagor | it's simply { "menu string", menu_function } |
| 10:43:24 | calpefrosch | yes,ok. and you would include it in the cvs ? Or should I commit it ? |
| 10:44:08 | calpefrosch | Bagder: what do you prefer ? |
| 10:44:20 | Zagor | calpefrosch: i'd like it as a patch first, so we can have some discussion about it |
| 10:44:48 | calpefrosch | np, I will user constant english strings first |
| 10:45:38 | Zagor | PsycoXul: you're right |
| 10:46:14 | calpefrosch | what do you think about an extended version. we could add some id3-tags into the idx-file |
| 10:47:07 | calpefrosch | with a bash-script |
| 10:47:08 | Schnueff | there's an .m3u format with additional info |
| 10:47:24 | Schnueff | i think its supported by winamp |
| 10:47:46 | calpefrosch | hmm, I would cut the info when creating the result playlist |
| 10:47:48 | Zagor | calpefrosch: yes, that would be very good. |
| 10:47:52 | Schnueff | it has tags on line starting with # |
| 10:47:57 | Schnueff | EXTINFO and similar |
| 10:47:58 | Zagor | I don't like patched .m3u files |
| 10:48:11 | Schnueff | it's not my idea :) |
| 10:48:12 | Zagor | for one, they suck searching in |
| 10:48:31 | Schnueff | but they solve the sorting problem |
| 10:48:38 | Schnueff | somehow |
| 10:48:44 | Schnueff | (sort by id3 track number) |
| 10:49:07 | Zagor | no they don't |
| 10:49:27 | Zagor | playlists solve the number sort issue. extra info doesn't. |
| 10:49:51 | Schnueff | isnt it possible to sort they playlist after loading? |
| 10:50:00 | Zagor | not in rockbox |
| 10:50:10 | calpefrosch | one last question, then I have to go into an meeting... :-( |
| 10:50:15 | Schnueff | if its less than buffer size? |
| 10:51:00 | Schnueff | hm but extra info will blow up playlist size considerably |
| 10:51:04 | calpefrosch | should I create a constant filename ? ( result.m3u ) or ask for the name ? |
| 10:51:25 | Zagor | constant name, imho. asking is too tedious. |
| 10:51:36 | Schnueff | maybe ah config-file option |
| 10:51:37 | Zagor | the result can always be renamed if you want to keep it. |
| 10:51:45 | calpefrosch | ahh, yes |
| 10:52:29 | calpefrosch | the playlist-browser is still missing... I will do it later, first i hav to get closer to the API |
| 10:52:55 | calpefrosch | brb |
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| 11:17:51 | * | Zagor commits the weekend patches |
| 11:20:51 | Bagder | cool |
| 11:23:23 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: you can now change wormlet to use 4-direction controls even in 2-player mode. |
| 11:23:38 | langhaarrocker | ? |
| 11:24:07 | langhaarrocker | I thought the remote didn't have enough buttons |
| 11:24:38 | Zagor | it now, with my latest patch, has dedicated button codes. so PLAY on the remote is distinguishable from PLAY on the main unit |
| 11:29:42 | * | langhaarrocker had to search for a pic of the remote to ensure it really has many buttons |
| 11:29:57 | langhaarrocker | Why do you impose work on me? ;) |
| 11:30:13 | dwihno | logbot seen LinusN |
| 11:30:36 | >>> | "seen" used by langhaarrocker (~Phil@32.20.sr2.DTM1.ip.versanet.de) [snoop prevented] |
| 11:30:44 | * | dwihno smacks logbot around with a set of phish disks. |
| 11:30:51 | >>> | "sview dwinho" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 11:31:01 | >>> | "pass" used by langhaarrocker (~Phil@32.20.sr2.DTM1.ip.versanet.de) [snoop prevented] |
| 11:31:04 | >>> | "sview dwihno" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 11:31:09 | #>> | "seen" used by langhaarrocker (~Phil@32.20.sr2.DTM1.ip.versanet.de) [snoop prevented] |
| 11:31:25 | Bagder | dwihno: you have a weird host mask |
| 11:31:42 | Zagor | lunch |
| 11:31:49 | langhaarrocker | don't eat fish! |
| 11:31:51 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 11:32:29 | dwihno | Bagder: no way |
| 11:32:33 | dwihno | hmm |
| 11:32:34 | dwihno | I DO |
| 11:32:41 | dwihno | fishy :) |
| 11:32:46 | dwihno | ><))))8> |
| 11:33:13 | Bagder | and logbot is the paranoid type, he doesn't trust you then |
| 11:42:08 | #>> | "the paranoid one?" by quel|out (swordmaste@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 11:42:11 | quel|out | noway! |
| 11:42:40 | quel|out | i've been working hard to be the craziest and most paranoic guy here :P |
| 11:43:04 | quel|out | btw, i've repaired my queue issue :) |
| 11:43:23 | Bagder | what solved it? |
| 11:43:35 | quel|out | formating the unit |
| 11:43:36 | quel|out | ;) |
| 11:43:54 | dwihno | :-) |
| 11:43:56 | dwihno | Goodie! |
| 11:44:00 | dwihno | Add that to the FAQ :-) |
| 11:44:13 | dwihno | (and nag linus' about merging my recording-invert patch) ;) |
| 11:44:14 | quel|out | ;) |
| 11:44:33 | quel|out | but i had to sacrifice a goat |
| 11:44:49 | Bagder | oh no, not one of the old ones? |
| 11:45:28 | quel|out | after formatting it, and copying my 24 GB of heavy metal, the drive made some kind of nasty noise.. something like "tick.. tick,,," |
| 11:45:40 | quel|out | and i couldn't spin it up |
| 11:45:41 | quel|out | :( |
| 11:46:06 | quel|out | i had to use little "Danielito" ;) |
| 11:46:40 | Bagder | danielito? is that me when I'm small? ;-) |
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| 12:03:30 | dwihno | I have a question. |
| 12:03:37 | dwihno | I malloc() a HUGE block of memory. |
| 12:03:45 | dwihno | This far, everything is OK |
| 12:04:09 | langhaarrocker | malloc? in Rockbox? Isn't that a nono? |
| 12:04:17 | dwihno | Then when I start to fill the data, it breaks when I've reached 4426800 of 500000000 |
| 12:04:24 | dwihno | Just ansi stuff |
| 12:05:04 | langhaarrocker | so its about malloc in non-rockbox-code? |
| 12:05:48 | dwihno | yes :-) |
| 12:06:04 | dwihno | And since everybody here are experts, it's nice to find a bollplank. |
| 12:06:54 | * | langhaarrocker hides |
| 12:07:12 | Bagder | it sure sounds odd |
| 12:08:52 | dwihno | yes. |
| 12:08:58 | dwihno | Windows evil ? :) |
| 12:09:12 | Bagder | not even windows should be that evil |
| 12:10:18 | langhaarrocker | How do you verify that there was enough memory available? |
| 12:11:38 | dwihno | I just check if I get a pointer :) |
| 12:11:50 | dwihno | if (!ptr) die() :) |
| 12:13:08 | * | langhaarrocker must eat |
| 12:13:58 | Bagder | lunch! |
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| 12:52:55 | Zagor | oops, red build |
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| 13:15:48 | tracktheripper | just playing with the "Caption Backlight" |
| 13:17:14 | langhaarrocker | Bagder: wasn't it you who made the daily builds page? |
| 13:18:58 | Zagor | yes it was |
| 13:21:06 | langhaarrocker | Did he use some kind of tool or was it hand made? |
| 13:22:06 | Zagor | perl :) |
| 13:22:42 | Zagor | actually bagder made the compile status matrix, I did the rest of the page. |
| 13:23:15 | langhaarrocker | Exactly that matrix is what I'm interested in. Would he mind sharing the code? :) |
| 13:24:00 | Bagder | I wouldn't |
| 13:24:09 | Bagder | but it is pretty rockbox-centric |
| 13:24:38 | langhaarrocker | But it doesn't depend on sh1 code, does it? :) |
| 13:24:44 | Bagder | no |
| 13:25:05 | Bagder | it analyzes the gcc output basicly |
| 13:25:55 | Bagder | I could make you a package and mail over and you can check for yourself |
| 13:26:00 | langhaarrocker | If it doesn't make no much trouble: phil at x-phobie.de |
| 13:26:48 | * | Zagor is in commit mode today |
| 13:27:08 | Bagder | Zagor: have a go at the css for the digest too, if you feel like it |
| 13:27:12 | Zagor | ok |
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| 13:33:25 | Bagder | langhaarrocker: mail sent |
| 13:33:48 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 13:36:40 | Bagder | the dates in the digest shouldn't be underlined I guess |
| 13:39:52 | Bagder | I made the most commonly mentioned names macros, so that I can use short forms in my edits |
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| 14:01:42 | langhaarrocker | Bagder thanks! |
| 14:01:42 | langhaarrocker | All: bye, must go paragliding :) |
| 14:02:00 | Bagder | wooo |
| 14:02:03 | Bagder | have fun |
| 14:02:08 | langhaarrocker | I will |
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| 14:24:10 | Bagder | that peer guy is always resetting connections |
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| 14:40:12 | Zagor | peer is evil |
| 14:42:02 | quel|out | peer == zagor ? |
| 14:42:04 | quel|out | ;) |
| 14:42:46 | quel|out | time to go home for lunch... |
| 14:42:51 | Zagor | ssh! :) |
| 14:43:02 | quel|out | cu later! |
| 14:43:05 | Zagor | i'd die from starvation if I was spanish ;) |
| 14:43:12 | quel|out | not really |
| 14:43:14 | dwihno | Or those hot tamales :) |
| 14:43:15 | quel|out | :) |
| 14:43:40 | quel|out | btw, Zagor, make a copy of cvs before my first test ;) |
| 14:43:48 | Zagor | haha |
| 14:43:58 | Zagor | be here and we'll walk you through it |
| 14:44:15 | quel|out | don't worry.. i'm coming back at 4 |
| 14:44:29 | quel|out | and i'll ask you nearly everything :) |
| 14:44:50 | dwihno | Zagor: I'll mail you a patch, just for kuriosa :-) |
| 14:45:57 | dwihno | Zagor: *bling bling* |
| 14:46:03 | Zagor | :) |
| 14:46:46 | dwihno | Unless you have some filter to kill *ass* ;-) |
| 14:49:07 | Zagor | Bagder: stop editing news.t :-) |
| 14:49:11 | Bagder | hehe |
| 14:49:18 | Bagder | oops |
| 14:49:26 | dwihno | :-) |
| 14:49:31 | dwihno | There's always more news! |
| 14:49:38 | dwihno | What do you guys think about the hockey game tonight? |
| 14:49:51 | Zagor | there's a hockey game? |
| 14:49:56 | Zagor | what's hockey? |
| 14:50:01 | Bagder | is that a game? |
| 14:50:28 | dwihno | Ah. I forgot you were non-swedish... :-) |
| 14:50:31 | dwihno | Since swedes love hockey. |
| 14:50:47 | * | Zagor is elbonian |
| 14:51:02 | * | Bagder is bork bork borkian |
| 14:51:05 | dwihno | :-) |
| 14:51:59 | dwihno | the rockbox daily news should be mentioned on the main page btw. along with a link in the navigation |
| 14:52:12 | dwihno | (but again, that's just what I think would be neato) |
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| 15:06:22 | dwihno | :-( |
| 15:06:25 | dwihno | He didn't like my patch :( |
| 15:06:42 | Bagder | zagor's modified the main.t file locally again... |
| 15:06:47 | Bagder | for the main web page |
| 15:07:05 | Bagder | or... |
| 15:07:16 | Bagder | ah no |
| 15:09:34 | Bagder | bbl |
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| 15:12:40 | dwihno | Zagor: did you enjoy the patch? :) |
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| 16:13:32 | | Nick quel|out is now known as quelsaruk (swordmaste@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 16:13:49 | quelsaruk | i'm back... to brincg chaos to CVS ;) |
| 16:20:17 | quelsaruk | any cygwin user here? |
| 16:20:22 | quelsaruk | dwihno? |
| 16:21:33 | dwihno | que? |
| 16:21:52 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 16:21:57 | quelsaruk | do u use cygwin? |
| 16:25:41 | dwihno | yes |
| 16:25:44 | dwihno | the cygwin sdk thingy |
| 16:25:45 | quelsaruk | great |
| 16:25:48 | quelsaruk | :) |
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| 16:46:47 | matsl | Zagor: have you run out of batteries now? |
| 16:48:44 | Zagor | uh, no. :-) |
| 16:48:50 | Zagor | testing now. really... |
| 16:50:12 | Zagor | ugh, got bitten by the fat write delay :) |
| 16:50:27 | matsl | Zagor: terrible thing to test really. code inspection might be easier. |
| 16:51:26 | matsl | Zagor: and your latest ci probably ruined the patch completely anyway. I will have to merge manually again :-( |
| 16:52:19 | Zagor | oops... |
| 16:54:45 | Zagor | matsl: well, what does this patch do? |
| 16:55:21 | quelsaruk | query Zagor |
| 16:55:23 | quelsaruk | upss |
| 16:55:26 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 16:55:42 | Zagor | wooo, crazy hacker you! |
| 16:56:04 | quelsaruk | it was not me |
| 16:56:09 | * | quelsaruk points dwihno |
| 16:56:25 | quelsaruk | he is the one ;) |
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| 17:09:20 | quel|out | time to go to the stable and choose a goat ;) |
| 17:22:05 | matsl | Zagor: the same code is used for both player and recorder plus some player code optimizations. |
| 17:23:09 | Zagor | ok. well it looks like it's working... :-) |
| 17:35:37 | matsl | Zagor: So I'm free to merge and check in then ;-) |
| 17:39:34 | Zagor | nah, mail it to me or post it on the tracker. i'd like to have a look if you don't mind. |
| 17:40:29 | Zagor | gotta go |
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| 19:06:31 | Bagder | back! |
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| 19:52:03 | Bagder | anyone here? |
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| 20:25:50 | Bagder | hey Z |
| 20:26:07 | Zagor | hi |
| 20:26:21 | Bagder | a quick q: when we keyrepeat, do we only return keypresses then? |
| 20:26:30 | Bagder | I mean, no releases |
| 20:26:32 | Zagor | yes |
| 20:26:37 | Bagder | ok |
| 20:26:45 | Bagder | I have a functioning repeat in the sim here |
| 20:27:34 | Bagder | just some details remaning |
| 20:27:44 | Zagor | nice! |
| 20:28:02 | Zagor | any possibility for combined keys? |
| 20:28:38 | Bagder | we could do that |
| 20:28:47 | Bagder | we get separate events for presses and releases |
| 20:29:06 | Zagor | yes |
| 20:30:13 | Bagder | I also made the playlist code never close the playlist |
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| 20:30:35 | Zagor | ah, goodie |
| 20:30:43 | Bagder | hard to tell if there's any speed diff |
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| 20:34:53 | Bagder | too bad fast forward still bugs in the sim |
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| 20:38:34 | bu88a1 | Anyone out there got an idea of typical max recording times on a JBR 20 |
| 20:38:50 | Zagor | bu88a1: max recording times? |
| 20:38:52 | Bagder | use the charger and you can record until your disk is full |
| 20:39:17 | Zagor | we might have a 2G file size problem |
| 20:39:20 | bu88a1 | If I'm at a show I don't have access to 120V for charger ops. |
| 20:39:22 | Bagder | ah |
| 20:39:26 | Zagor | haven't really looked into it |
| 20:39:52 | Zagor | bu88a1: I think you should get 6-8 hours at least |
| 20:39:53 | bu88a1 | What about an external battery pack what would something like that be. |
| 20:39:56 | Bagder | bu88a1: well, I think you can get many hours at least, depending on your batteries |
| 20:40:32 | bu88a1 | 2100 mAh batteries and I'm getting only 1 hour or so thus far |
| 20:40:39 | Zagor | bu88a1: you could hook up a car battery to the charger port... :-) |
| 20:40:41 | Bagder | ouh |
| 20:40:44 | Zagor | only one hour?!? |
| 20:41:07 | bu88a1 | Yea I get rec wrt -132 and -122 errors after about 1 hr. |
| 20:41:19 | Zagor | ah, well those are bugs. not battery problems. |
| 20:41:44 | bu88a1 | I thought that also so I'm running a test with the Archos firmware now. |
| 20:42:00 | Zagor | if you can, try a reformat. it has fixed many filesystem problems. |
| 20:42:02 | bu88a1 | 47 minutes so far with no problems. |
| 20:42:36 | bu88a1 | I checked the file system totally prior to the test recording |
| 20:43:54 | bu88a1 | Does anyone know if it is possible to use an external say 12v battery plugged into the chrg port to power the archos longer? |
| 20:44:01 | Zagor | all panics are bugs, no question. but a reformat could be a workaround until we find and fix it/them |
| 20:44:14 | Zagor | bu88a1: yes, that should work |
| 20:44:23 | Zagor | I use a 12V charger all the time |
| 20:45:08 | bu88a1 | What about an external 12v lead acid battery avail from Radio Shack and plug it into the DC in ? |
| 20:45:24 | Zagor | I don't see why that should be a problem |
| 20:46:08 | bu88a1 | I thought that I might need to place circuitry between Battery and Archos. |
| 20:46:15 | Zagor | however, it will not make the panics go away since those are software bugs |
| 20:46:38 | Zagor | no, that shouldn't be necessary. the archos contains a charging regulator. |
| 20:47:05 | bu88a1 | I understand about the *Panics* I will wait for news on the bug fixing front. |
| 20:47:43 | bu88a1 | So the Archos charging circuitry should regulate the input from the 12v to ~ 350 just as it does for the charger? |
| 20:47:55 | bu88a1 | Thanks all. |
| 20:48:31 | Zagor | yes it should |
| 20:49:00 | bu88a1 | As always a very responsive group. Thanks again. |
| 20:50:00 | bu88a1 | ok by |
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| 20:51:29 | Bagder | im off |
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| 22:07:09 | [rabble] | any ideas? |
| 22:07:22 | [rabble] | HD register error? |
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| 22:08:17 | [rabble] | argh.. |
| 22:08:48 | [rabble] | Does anyone know what "HD register error" when I plug USB in means? |
| 22:10:11 | [rabble] | 'ello? |
| 22:11:46 | [rabble] | anyone around today? |
| 22:15:56 | [rabble] | 'ello? |
| 22:20:39 | Zagor | hello |
| 22:21:01 | Zagor | "hd register error" is something the archos firmware says. try connecting usb while rockbox is running. |
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| 22:25:18 | [rabble] | I can't get Rockbox on there until I can start it up.. |
| 22:25:38 | [rabble] | Or should I just do the HDD upgrade and put it on with my 2.5"-3.5" adapter? |
| 22:25:41 | Zagor | ah, ok. |
| 22:26:03 | [rabble] | I just got it, wanted to check it out before I did the HDD and Rockbox firmware upgrades.. |
| 22:26:28 | [rabble] | any ideas? |
| 22:26:40 | Zagor | have you charged the batteries fully? |
| 22:26:46 | [rabble] | nope, just came in the mail.. |
| 22:27:16 | [rabble] | What does it do when it's charging? The green light comes on when I plug the adapter in, but the screen says nothing until I try to plug USB in (which is when I get the HD register error) |
| 22:29:43 | Zagor | really? well you should charge it for a few hours first, since the disk will have trouble spinning up without charged batteries. |
| 22:29:53 | [rabble] | I suppose that's a good point |
| 22:30:02 | [rabble] | Is there any indicator that it is charging besides the green light? |
| 22:30:11 | [rabble] | Is the screen supposed to be saying anything? |
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| 22:30:53 | Zagor | yes, normally the screen indicates charging too |
| 22:31:03 | [rabble] | hrmmm. |
| 22:31:06 | Zagor | which model do you have? |
| 22:31:11 | [rabble] | 6000 recorder |
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| 22:31:38 | Zagor | so you've never actually seen anything on the display yet? |
| 22:31:48 | Zagor | ah, hd reg error :-) |
| 22:31:52 | [rabble] | Yeah, it gives me the HD register error when I plug the USB in |
| 22:31:56 | [rabble] | hehe, yup |
| 22:32:02 | Zagor | well at least then we know the screen is working :) |
| 22:32:09 | [rabble] | at least that! |
| 22:32:33 | Zagor | I would give it a couple of hours in the charger |
| 22:32:50 | [rabble] | The "on" button won't work the only way I can get it to turn on is plugging USB in |
| 22:33:04 | [rabble] | But is it charging if it doesn't say anything? |
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| 22:34:07 | [rabble] | ?? |
| 22:34:19 | Zagor | i don't know. i guess the only way to find out is to leave it a while and see if things improve. |
| 22:34:25 | [rabble] | hehe, I guess so.. |
| 22:34:30 | [rabble] | is that normal for it not to show anything? |
| 22:34:34 | Zagor | no |
| 22:34:44 | [rabble] | hrmm.. |
| 22:34:55 | [rabble] | could it be that they're just incredibly dead batteries? |
| 22:35:03 | Zagor | yeah, it could |
| 22:35:12 | [rabble] | okey, I'll let it charge for a bit.. |
| 22:35:15 | [rabble] | thanks for the help.. |
| 22:35:20 | Zagor | you're welcome |
| 22:35:27 | [rabble] | I'lll probably be back in a bit when I still can't figure it out.. |
| 22:35:28 | [rabble] | ;) |
| 22:36:04 | Zagor | sure. i'm off to bed in about an hour, but i'll be back in 8-10 hours |
| 22:36:10 | [rabble] | werd. |
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| 22:55:47 | | Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 22:56:08 | Zagor | welcome back Bagder |
| 22:56:16 | Bagder | rehi |
| 22:56:33 | Bagder | I came to think of a flaw in the playlist commit I did |
| 22:56:51 | Zagor | ah |
| 22:57:28 | Bagder | it closes file handle zero at start up |
| 22:57:52 | Zagor | hehe, oops |
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| 22:59:24 | Bagder | btw |
| 22:59:41 | Bagder | I had an idea that rolo could use the splash screen for its displaying |
| 22:59:53 | Bagder | then it struck me the splash is apps code, while rolo is firmware... |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:03 | Zagor | right |
| 23:00:46 | Bagder | and then I couldn't think of a nice solution for it |
| 23:05:47 | Bagder | I think we could make it in a way similar to how the mpeg uses playlist code |
| 23:06:10 | Bagder | as we provide a function pointer for it to call |
| 23:06:18 | Zagor | yeah, but is it worth it? |
| 23:06:29 | Bagder | nah, true |
| 23:07:54 | Bagder | ggggg |
| 23:07:59 | Bagder | error: max firmware size is 200KB! |
| 23:08:17 | Bagder | you heard any news on sokoban loading lately? |
| 23:19:47 | Bagder | Zagor: btw, I now mark the names in the digest too, we should make a css class for them too |
| 23:21:01 | Zagor | ok |
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| 23:32:15 | devZer0 | moinmoin :) |
| 23:32:32 | Bagder | hi |
| 23:32:39 | devZer0 | hi again :) |
| 23:34:09 | devZer0 | phew. back from my sister. she is a computer banause :) showed her irc - hey, that`s 50 servers with 30000 channels and 120000 communicating with that.... and she just shook her head :D |
| 23:34:38 | devZer0 | we are nerds.... :D |
| 23:37:26 | PsycoXul | nooo |
| 23:37:30 | PsycoXul | we're geeks |
| 23:37:54 | PsycoXul | nerds are all like uptight and nerdy... geeks are just smart |
| 23:37:55 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 23:38:45 | devZer0 | ok- you`re right psy :) |
| 23:39:19 | PsycoXul | so what'd you think of that erm "clip" i sent you? |
| 23:39:30 | PsycoXul | you can say it sucks, it was all just improv while high... heh |
| 23:39:41 | devZer0 | hey - really weird stuff ;) |
| 23:39:48 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 23:39:54 | devZer0 | just sounds |
| 23:40:10 | devZer0 | i was not able to recognize any beat or melody :D |
| 23:40:19 | PsycoXul | really? heh |
| 23:40:24 | PsycoXul | not even at the end? |
| 23:40:25 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 23:40:34 | devZer0 | mhh.will listen again |
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| 23:41:16 | PsycoXul | it was with a slide and a handfull of effects |
| 23:41:43 | devZer0 | ok - make a song from that sounds and send it again ;) |
| 23:42:07 | devZer0 | but - however - it really sounds interesting - and is indeed a little bit 64`alike |
| 23:42:15 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 23:43:59 | devZer0 | what? do you need some plaudit ? |
| 23:44:02 | hardeep | I wonder where ricII went... he was pretty much finished with the dynamic playlist code before he disappeared... that would be a nice feature to have for 2.1 |
| 23:44:23 | PsycoXul | nah heh |
| 23:44:30 | * | Bagder had almost forgot about him |
| 23:45:02 | devZer0 | i don`t get plaudit, too :) rockbox guys don`t even honour patches from me ;) |
| 23:45:08 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 23:45:13 | devZer0 | :P |
| 23:45:43 | devZer0 | perhaps s/o gives me some write access to cvs :D |
| 23:46:03 | devZer0 | and i will possibly screw up repository completely :D |
| 23:48:15 | devZer0 | mhh - 18 people here - and all lurking around |
| 23:48:19 | devZer0 | ::D |
| 23:51:11 | PsycoXul | ok thats weird |
| 23:51:32 | PsycoXul | trying to build hydrogen CVS and i get an 'undefined macro: AC_Dest' but there's no occurance of AC_Dest anywhere in the source heh |
| 23:51:33 | devZer0 | ok - will put some sensless traffic on this channel :D |
| 23:52:52 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 23:53:19 | devZer0 | who are these guys? http://rockbox.haxx.se/devcon/show.cgi?img4088.jpg ? björn?linus?daniel?mr.archos? |
| 23:53:43 | Bagder | linus to the left, Björn on the right |
| 23:54:26 | Bagder | I believe I took the picture |
| 23:54:32 | devZer0 | ah :) that isn` coce in the glasses, isn`t it? or what made you build a tower from jb`s ? |
| 23:54:49 | devZer0 | :D |
| 23:54:59 | PsycoXul | hey |
| 23:55:11 | PsycoXul | if you had all theme jukebox's, wouldn't you wanna build something out of them? |
| 23:55:38 | devZer0 | i would link them together and build a clusterjb |
| 23:57:05 | Zagor | beowulf! ;) |
| 23:57:20 | Bagder | is there anything like a rss validator? |
| 23:57:31 | devZer0 | what is rss? |
| 23:58:17 | Bagder | see http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-04/0951.shtml |
| 23:58:35 | Bagder | its a format to store stuff for easy "syndication" |
| 23:58:37 | Zagor | Bagder: http://feeds.archive.org/validator/ |
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| 23:58:50 | Bagder | neato |
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