| 00:00:54 | devZer0 | errr. for a newsticker or what? |
| 00:01:14 | Bagder | I'm working on making the digest available as rss too |
| 00:01:29 | devZer0 | the digest is fantastic! |
| 00:01:56 | Bagder | I think I'm gonna ignore the fact that my current RSS doesn't validate |
| 00:02:09 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/digest/digest.rss |
| 00:03:36 | Bagder | it complains on |
| 00:03:37 | | Join Nomad__ [0] (nomad@24-216-225-11.charter.com) |
| 00:03:47 | Bagder | stuff in the links and even 8bit letters etc |
| 00:03:51 | Nomad__ | WEEEEEEE, got my new Studio 10 back from RMA |
| 00:04:08 | Zagor | try another validator. google found a lot |
| 00:04:23 | devZer0 | mhh - isn`t rss downloadable by a webbrowser? |
| 00:04:38 | Bagder | not really |
| 00:04:56 | Zagor | devZer0: no, it's a web content syndication format |
| 00:05:13 | devZer0 | you mean it is something like a streaming format? |
| 00:05:35 | Zagor | no, it's for grabbing content from one web site to reformat and put on another |
| 00:05:45 | Zagor | like slashdot headlines etc |
| 00:06:20 | devZer0 | yes - but the url .....digest.rss will deliver that content,right? |
| 00:06:26 | Zagor | yes |
| 00:06:42 | devZer0 | and it is via http as the scheme says |
| 00:06:48 | Zagor | yes |
| 00:07:13 | Bagder | but its xml |
| 00:07:34 | Bagder | that isn't to be browser-displayed |
| 00:07:58 | devZer0 | but afaik MS IE is able to display xml |
| 00:08:32 | devZer0 | is it a static file on the server? |
| 00:08:55 | Bagder | the server sends it as plain text |
| 00:09:05 | Bagder | its a static file, yes |
| 00:09:18 | Bagder | the output of a preprocess |
| 00:09:39 | devZer0 | then my IE must be very dumb with this |
| 00:09:52 | Zagor | it's not for a browser to read |
| 00:09:55 | Bagder | I think it is because of the content-type |
| 00:09:56 | devZer0 | mozilla has no problem downloading that |
| 00:10:04 | devZer0 | think so |
| 00:10:08 | Bagder | oh, it doesn't even download? |
| 00:10:15 | devZer0 | yes! |
| 00:10:31 | devZer0 | that wondered me - and that`s why i asked |
| 00:10:57 | Bagder | well, I'm not that concerned, IE shouldn't be used for this ;-) |
| 00:11:59 | devZer0 | yes. |
| 00:12:13 | devZer0 | that would be my answer, too :D |
| 00:13:27 | devZer0 | zagor/badger - did nobody find some time to look at my patch? |
| 00:13:40 | Bagder | I haven't |
| 00:13:49 | Zagor | i hope to do it tomorrow |
| 00:14:33 | devZer0 | ok, that would be great |
| 00:14:52 | devZer0 | since you are very busy , aren`t there others who could do such? |
| 00:15:28 | Zagor | yes there are |
| 00:15:29 | devZer0 | who is the one who decides what goes into rockbox and what not? who is the linus torvalds of rockbox ? ;) |
| 00:15:35 | Zagor | I am |
| 00:16:09 | | Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBE9EAE.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:16:20 | devZer0 | and you are the one who looks on every patch? |
| 00:16:21 | tracktheripper | hi |
| 00:16:30 | Zagor | devZer0: more or less, yes |
| 00:16:33 | devZer0 | hi |
| 00:16:59 | devZer0 | ok. it is good that there is one person coordinating thinks and making decisions |
| 00:17:03 | tracktheripper | hi dev and zagor |
| 00:17:07 | tracktheripper | and bagder |
| 00:17:09 | Zagor | hi |
| 00:17:09 | devZer0 | hi track |
| 00:17:12 | devZer0 | :) |
| 00:17:15 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 00:17:29 | tracktheripper | im still intruiged about this "plugin system" |
| 00:18:16 | devZer0 | zagor: then i don`t urge no further - i thought there are more people doing putting patches into cvs |
| 00:18:22 | tracktheripper | would you download only the features you require such as games or recording? |
| 00:18:32 | tracktheripper | and place them in a special directory? |
| 00:18:36 | Bagder | devZer0: we're basicly three people doing it |
| 00:19:00 | Bagder | tracktheripper: yes, possibly |
| 00:19:16 | tracktheripper | ohh |
| 00:19:22 | devZer0 | this is badger,zagor and linus. the curl-crew ;) |
| 00:19:37 | tracktheripper | i just call them Bjorn and co dev :-) |
| 00:19:45 | Bagder | we are Haxx ;-) |
| 00:19:54 | tracktheripper | bagder, zagor, linus = Bjorn and co :) |
| 00:20:00 | devZer0 | ok |
| 00:20:08 | devZer0 | and how is the word "haxx" being formed ? |
| 00:20:20 | Bagder | hack in plural |
| 00:20:21 | tracktheripper | i reckon its hacks misspelt :-) |
| 00:20:33 | devZer0 | ahhh yes :D |
| 00:20:39 | tracktheripper | of course Badger :-) |
| 00:20:59 | tracktheripper | Dev who is your fave member of Bjorn and co or Haxx? :-) |
| 00:21:12 | devZer0 | but isn`t it "h4xX" ? |
| 00:21:18 | devZer0 | :D |
| 00:21:25 | Bagder | that's for people under 20 ;-) |
| 00:21:35 | devZer0 | haha :D |
| 00:21:37 | devZer0 | yes |
| 00:21:38 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 00:21:45 | tracktheripper | Linus is my fave member of Bjorn and co :-) |
| 00:22:23 | devZer0 | think you are all nice guys |
| 00:22:35 | tracktheripper | yea they all are :-) |
| 00:22:57 | tracktheripper | but I just like Linus most, but I think Zagor and Bagder are also great guys :-) |
| 00:24:08 | tracktheripper | wheres Dwihno? |
| 00:24:20 | Bagder | prolly asleep |
| 00:24:28 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 00:24:36 | devZer0 | i don`t know them well enough, as I can make a decision about that yet :) |
| 00:24:56 | tracktheripper | yea Badger according to version 2.1 what "features" would most likely be included? |
| 00:25:04 | Bagder | no idea |
| 00:25:05 | tracktheripper | which were left out of version 2.0 |
| 00:25:09 | Bagder | I just work here ;-) |
| 00:25:14 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 00:25:26 | tracktheripper | yea im still annoyed over losing yesterday's argument :-( |
| 00:25:28 | devZer0 | haha |
| 00:25:29 | | Quit Nomad__ ("No windows for this server") |
| 00:25:50 | Zagor | tracktheripper: for starters, all the stuff that has gone in since 2.0 was released. |
| 00:26:02 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 00:26:09 | tracktheripper | ok cheers Bjorn :D |
| 00:26:13 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 00:26:22 | devZer0 | i saw a website where every user could "vote" for features - and the features with best votes were developed |
| 00:26:37 | Zagor | that's for commercial development |
| 00:26:46 | Bagder | I'd prefer to have votes on existing patches instead |
| 00:26:47 | devZer0 | should`t we look for such voting system? |
| 00:26:50 | Zagor | the best code is the code you want to write |
| 00:27:01 | Zagor | not the code someone else wants you to write |
| 00:27:02 | devZer0 | this is really right |
| 00:27:13 | tracktheripper | ??? |
| 00:27:32 | tracktheripper | so what you are saying that everyone should write their own "features" not file them as requests? |
| 00:27:40 | Zagor | yes |
| 00:27:45 | Bagder | preferably, yes |
| 00:27:50 | devZer0 | mhh - what about assigning feature requests to coders? something like "hey, i like that request and i possibly could code that..." |
| 00:27:57 | tracktheripper | but what about us mere mortals who cannot program? like me? |
| 00:28:01 | Bagder | requests make no one happy, actual features do |
| 00:28:03 | Zagor | devZer0: yes, that happens |
| 00:28:27 | Bagder | devZer0: yes, that's a good way to "mark" interest in doing something |
| 00:28:32 | tracktheripper | lol this prob spells the end of me as I cannot program :-( |
| 00:29:01 | Zagor | tracktheripper: if you can't code, you can submit requests. but naturally code is better than requests |
| 00:29:01 | tracktheripper | if everyone has to write their own code now |
| 00:29:06 | devZer0 | track - look at me. i`m awful bad coder - it is years behind that i coded in C - but actually i managed to do a patch. perhaps you gonna learn coding C. |
| 00:29:09 | Bagder | now? |
| 00:29:13 | Bagder | we always needed code |
| 00:29:14 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 00:29:18 | Bagder | rockbox is nothing without code |
| 00:29:26 | tracktheripper | ive tried and tried and just failed learning :-( |
| 00:29:40 | Zagor | look at the end of the release notes. there's about 50 names there of people who have contributed code to rockbox |
| 00:29:47 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 00:30:05 | tracktheripper | well, im gonna look at a mates Player tommorow and see how it compares with my Recorder |
| 00:30:09 | PsycoXul | hey i still haven't really learned C yet and i contributed a patch months ago |
| 00:30:15 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 00:30:23 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:30:35 | tracktheripper | what program should I buy to learn to program in C? |
| 00:30:54 | PsycoXul | buy program? |
| 00:31:03 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 00:31:06 | Bagder | get a book |
| 00:31:10 | tracktheripper | Windows does not have C built in |
| 00:31:13 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:31:15 | devZer0 | it`s just a matter of mentality. you really must WANT that. then you learn, and practice, and lern, and you make bigger and bigger steps |
| 00:31:22 | tracktheripper | ohh |
| 00:31:28 | tracktheripper | do you use Notepad to write the code? |
| 00:31:31 | Bagder | tracktheripper: there are free compilers for windows too |
| 00:31:39 | PsycoXul | you can use any text editor you want to write the code |
| 00:31:47 | PsycoXul | i use vim |
| 00:31:48 | tracktheripper | ahh |
| 00:31:54 | tracktheripper | so Notepad WOULD work? |
| 00:31:59 | Bagder | oh yes |
| 00:32:14 | devZer0 | track: you just can use win32sdk - its sooo easy to install. just fiddle around with just changing some lines in rockbox |
| 00:32:18 | tracktheripper | right, so im gonna download the source code, view the various files and try and make sense of it |
| 00:32:25 | devZer0 | yes |
| 00:32:40 | tracktheripper | i wish Bjorn was here giving me personal tution :-) |
| 00:32:45 | devZer0 | it isn`t easy, because it`s sorta complex |
| 00:32:56 | tracktheripper | <−−−− is having his dinner now |
| 00:32:57 | devZer0 | but there are also easy parts in the code |
| 00:33:01 | tracktheripper | <−−- will be back soon |
| 00:33:30 | devZer0 | happy meal!:) |
| 00:33:50 | PsycoXul | i'd send you stuff i've written cause it's all simple/beginner stuff, but it'd probably do more harm than good |
| 00:34:50 | PsycoXul | the only decent thing i've coded so far is R rated too |
| 00:36:31 | devZer0 | should we recommend him a book? |
| 00:37:24 | PsycoXul | i like beginning linux programming from wrox, but i dunno if that'd help him too much :p |
| 00:37:57 | devZer0 | do you know a good one? i think kerighan and ritchie is a little bit hard for the beginner. that book is a little bit moldy |
| 00:38:41 | devZer0 | what about teach yourself c in 21 days? |
| 00:38:56 | PsycoXul | well there's that... |
| 00:39:11 | PsycoXul | i read that once or twice without coming away with much useful personally though heh |
| 00:39:49 | * | Bagder learned C by trial and error on a unix machine ;-) |
| 00:39:51 | devZer0 | yes - c isn`t really easy to learn |
| 00:39:59 | Bagder | oh, and man pages |
| 00:40:03 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 00:40:05 | devZer0 | you need a lot of practice |
| 00:40:07 | PsycoXul | C is easier on *nix i think |
| 00:40:21 | devZer0 | but you need a good reference, too |
| 00:40:24 | PsycoXul | between the dev tools being there and all the man pages |
| 00:40:33 | PsycoXul | and lots of source laying around |
| 00:41:25 | PsycoXul | devZer0: yeah you do... |
| 00:42:16 | PsycoXul | there's that one website.. informit.com or something isn't it? that (last time i was there, years ago) let you sign up for a (free) membership and then read a bunch of books online |
| 00:42:18 | devZer0 | will send him cin21days |
| 00:42:25 | PsycoXul | including all the sams teach yourself and such |
| 00:43:09 | devZer0 | had mirrored that from itknowledge.com. there were 180 free ebooks afaicr |
| 00:43:22 | Zagor | time for bed |
| 00:43:28 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:43:29 | | Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") |
| 00:43:31 | devZer0 | night, zagor |
| 00:43:57 | Bagder | zagor's linux patch is going in the mm2 kernel series at least |
| 00:44:28 | devZer0 | what is mm2 ? |
| 00:44:31 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC89DFC1.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:44:42 | Bagder | Andrew Morton's tree it seems |
| 00:44:46 | Bagder | ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.5/2.5.68/2.5.68-mm2/ |
| 00:44:50 | midknight2k3 | There's a bug on the website |
| 00:44:53 | devZer0 | ahh |
| 00:45:17 | Bagder | midknight2k3: what is it? |
| 00:46:00 | midknight2k3 | If you go to a dailybuild changelog and click the button "Back to project Rockbox Home" it sends you to 'rockboxx.haxx.se' not 'rockbox.haxx.se |
| 00:46:12 | midknight2k3 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily/changes-20030421.html fore xample |
| 00:46:40 | Bagder | oh |
| 00:47:15 | midknight2k3 | yay I found a bug yehoo |
| 00:48:30 | Bagder | me fixed that now |
| 00:48:37 | Bagder | for new ones |
| 00:48:50 | midknight2k3 | :yay |
| 00:48:55 | Bagder | aaaaa |
| 00:48:57 | Bagder | red build all over |
| 00:49:03 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 00:49:08 | Bagder | error: max firmware size is 200KB! |
| 00:49:14 | midknight2k3 | uh oh |
| 00:49:17 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 00:49:25 | Bagder | crap |
| 00:49:26 | midknight2k3 | you guys have a limit? |
| 00:49:34 | PsycoXul | no |
| 00:49:36 | midknight2k3 | did you know that before? |
| 00:49:37 | PsycoXul | they don't |
| 00:49:38 | PsycoXul | the unit does |
| 00:49:42 | midknight2k3 | well yes |
| 00:49:45 | PsycoXul | or rather, the ROM firmware does |
| 00:49:46 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:49:52 | Bagder | I made it go over the limit |
| 00:49:52 | midknight2k3 | so in a sense you either have to stopp adding features or rremove some |
| 00:50:00 | midknight2k3 | can you get around it? |
| 00:50:04 | PsycoXul | no they don't have to |
| 00:50:04 | Bagder | or make the plugin system reality |
| 00:50:11 | PsycoXul | yeah there's the plugin system |
| 00:50:25 | PsycoXul | and/or they could make a stripped-down ROLO and a 2-stage loading |
| 00:51:34 | midknight2k3 | rolos are good mm mm good |
| 00:51:48 | midknight2k3 | like carmely and chokolity |
| 00:52:06 | midknight2k3 | and small and rownd |
| 00:52:25 | midknight2k3 | any input? |
| 00:52:31 | tracktheripper | Hi |
| 00:52:34 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 00:52:40 | midknight2k3 | we have activity! |
| 00:52:48 | * | Bagder runs off to bed |
| 00:52:50 | midknight2k3 | I think I'll respond approprieatly |
| 00:52:51 | | Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") |
| 00:52:57 | midknight2k3 | 'Hi.' |
| 00:53:08 | tracktheripper | mmmm Cadbury's mini eggs I got for Easter :-) |
| 00:53:23 | midknight2k3 | Reses are betr |
| 00:53:41 | PsycoXul | i want some 70% cocoa bittersweet dark choklit |
| 00:54:02 | midknight2k3 | then agin i tnk tat all chokolik b good |
| 00:54:21 | midknight2k3 | jst lke cookie |
| 00:54:23 | PsycoXul | i don't like milk choklit anymore |
| 00:54:24 | tracktheripper | its chocolate not chokolit |
| 00:54:33 | PsycoXul | it's chocolate |
| 00:54:34 | midknight2k3 | cock-o-lik |
| 00:54:35 | PsycoXul | or choklit |
| 00:54:43 | midknight2k3 | chkolite! |
| 00:54:45 | tracktheripper | :-| |
| 00:54:54 | midknight2k3 | :{O} |
| 00:54:58 | midknight2k3 | __ |
| 00:55:02 | PsycoXul | but the good stuff's hard to come by it seems |
| 00:55:03 | midknight2k3 | watch this |
| 00:55:03 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:55:10 | tracktheripper | ^_^ |
| 00:55:13 | midknight2k3 | stay quiet while i make a hamburger |
| 00:55:16 | PsycoXul | no |
| 00:55:16 | midknight2k3 | say NOTHING |
| 00:55:18 | midknight2k3 | here i go |
| 00:55:20 | PsycoXul | don't make a hamburger |
| 00:55:20 | midknight2k3 | _____ |
| 00:55:24 | midknight2k3 | _____ |
| 00:55:29 | midknight2k3 | \/\/\/\ |
| 00:55:30 | PsycoXul | NOTHING |
| 00:55:31 | midknight2k3 | _____ |
| 00:55:33 | midknight2k3 | CRAP |
| 00:55:35 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 00:55:41 | midknight2k3 | No don't say anything |
| 00:55:45 | midknight2k3 | not 'say nothing!' |
| 00:55:48 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:55:48 | midknight2k3 | arrr |
| 00:55:49 | tracktheripper | _______ |
| 00:55:50 | tracktheripper | __________ |
| 00:55:51 | midknight2k3 | here i go |
| 00:55:54 | midknight2k3 | _______ |
| 00:55:54 | PsycoXul | no just don't do it |
| 00:55:55 | midknight2k3 | \/\/\/ |
| 00:55:58 | midknight2k3 | ______ |
| 00:56:02 | midknight2k3 | -===- |
| 00:56:05 | midknight2k3 | ______ |
| 00:56:08 | midknight2k3 | hamburger!! |
| 00:56:09 | PsycoXul | irc isn't the right place for crappy ascii art |
| 00:56:13 | midknight2k3 | um |
| 00:56:15 | midknight2k3 | okay |
| 00:56:21 | PsycoXul | it's just flood |
| 00:56:28 | midknight2k3 | wait one more please? really small |
| 00:56:32 | tracktheripper | NO |
| 00:56:34 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 00:56:40 | devZer0 | shiiiit. i recognized that jirc chat applet doesnt have courier font for chat window |
| 00:56:46 | devZer0 | that MUST be changed |
| 00:56:51 | midknight2k3 | no way i hate corier |
| 00:57:10 | tracktheripper | how about a feature request that reshuffles the playlsit when it repetes |
| 00:57:14 | devZer0 | then tell me another font that will show your burgers right :D |
| 00:57:15 | midknight2k3 | uh NO |
| 00:57:20 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 00:57:25 | midknight2k3 | im not allowes |
| 00:57:35 | midknight2k3 | according to psyco, the double height tester |
| 00:57:43 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:57:43 | midknight2k3 | :Glee ) |
| 00:58:03 | midknight2k3 | dare i attempt a better burger? |
| 00:58:05 | tracktheripper | chiken burgers are nices |
| 00:58:12 | devZer0 | ok |
| 00:58:14 | devZer0 | do it |
| 00:58:21 | midknight2k3 | (−−−−) |
| 00:58:24 | midknight2k3 | \/\/\/ |
| 00:58:27 | midknight2k3 | _____ |
| 00:58:30 | midknight2k3 | ====== |
| 00:58:35 | midknight2k3 | (−−−−) |
| 00:58:37 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 00:59:18 | | Join REBELinBLUE [0] (Stephen@modem-3821.elephant.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 00:59:32 | REBELinBLUE | hey |
| 00:59:46 | tracktheripper | lo |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:01 | REBELinBLUE | anyone on the Dev team here? |
| 01:00:04 | midknight2k3 | |)() \/()(_) |_ | |< |=)(_)|-(-||)\? |
| 01:00:13 | midknight2k3 | that last word is 'burger' |
| 01:00:27 | midknight2k3 | so answer |
| 01:00:33 | midknight2k3 | if you can decipher it |
| 01:00:50 | tracktheripper | decifer |
| 01:00:57 | midknight2k3 | it's decipher |
| 01:01:00 | midknight2k3 | not decifer |
| 01:01:12 | tracktheripper | i know |
| 01:01:12 | tracktheripper | :D |
| 01:01:16 | midknight2k3 | well |
| 01:01:23 | midknight2k3 | answer the question |
| 01:01:28 | | Join test [0] (jirc@pD951E25C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:01:56 | | Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m131.net81-67-41.noos.fr) |
| 01:01:58 | midknight2k3 | god! |
| 01:02:02 | BoD[] | yo ! |
| 01:02:03 | midknight2k3 | 'do you like burger?' |
| 01:02:07 | midknight2k3 | hello |
| 01:02:28 | midknight2k3 | forget me then |
| 01:02:30 | tracktheripper | hello |
| 01:02:39 | midknight2k3 | ill just run away and die for all you care eh? |
| 01:02:43 | midknight2k3 | fine |
| 01:03:21 | tracktheripper | calm down we all love you midknightg :-) |
| 01:03:27 | midknight2k3 | yee! |
| 01:04:36 | test | . |
| 01:04:41 | | Quit test (Client Quit) |
| 01:04:51 | midknight2k3 | . |
| 01:04:51 | | Quit devZer0 ("Leaving") |
| 01:05:36 | midknight2k3 | ;l |
| 01:05:39 | midknight2k3 | (8-) |
| 01:06:29 | | Join devZer0 [0] (jirc@pD951E25C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:07:23 | devZer0 | mhh -changed applet to courier. don`t know if I like that... |
| 01:07:39 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:07:42 | devZer0 | 2k3 - could you paint one more burger? |
| 01:07:45 | midknight2k3 | it's something else |
| 01:07:46 | midknight2k3 | okay |
| 01:07:55 | midknight2k3 | (−−−−) |
| 01:07:58 | midknight2k3 | \/\/\/ |
| 01:08:03 | midknight2k3 | _____ |
| 01:08:06 | midknight2k3 | ===== |
| 01:08:08 | midknight2k3 | (−−−−) |
| 01:08:12 | midknight2k3 | there! |
| 01:08:48 | PsycoXul | devZer0: was that really worth it? |
| 01:08:50 | devZer0 | it is bread, meat, salad, cheese,bread - from top to the bottom, right ? :D |
| 01:09:05 | devZer0 | noo :) |
| 01:09:05 | midknight2k3 | actually |
| 01:09:10 | midknight2k3 | i think you're right! ;) |
| 01:09:14 | midknight2k3 | haha |
| 01:09:15 | devZer0 | it still looks like shit ;) |
| 01:09:19 | midknight2k3 | hey! |
| 01:09:27 | PsycoXul | it looks more like bread, lettuce, cheese, meat, bread to me |
| 01:09:27 | midknight2k3 | Try one then do a better one come on |
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| 01:09:33 | devZer0 | hey, it`s up to the font. |
| 01:09:39 | midknight2k3 | do one |
| 01:09:40 | midknight2k3 | come on |
| 01:09:43 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:09:48 | | Join Zagor [0] (jirc@ACBE9EAE.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:09:49 | PsycoXul | if you really want me to |
| 01:09:52 | PsycoXul | hold on a few minutes |
| 01:10:43 | midknight2k3 | Yee! |
| 01:10:50 | midknight2k3 | Daily Bread |
| 01:11:10 | devZer0 | hee - zagor, can`t you sleep ? |
| 01:11:35 | midknight2k3 | i think not. |
| 01:11:38 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 01:11:41 | Zagor | :-) |
| 01:11:44 | midknight2k3 | anyone ask a yes/no question to me |
| 01:11:51 | midknight2k3 | i can answer like an 8 ball |
| 01:12:11 | Zagor | what on earth is happening here? |
| 01:12:19 | midknight2k3 | I think... not. |
| 01:12:28 | midknight2k3 | YES/NO QUESTION! |
| 01:12:31 | devZer0 | 2k3 does some nasty ascii art |
| 01:12:40 | midknight2k3 | ask me |
| 01:12:45 | midknight2k3 | if i do |
| 01:12:56 | Zagor | please refrain from the ASCII art here please |
| 01:13:00 | devZer0 | and i recognized that courier is crap for this chat applet |
| 01:13:02 | midknight2k3 | i know |
| 01:13:07 | midknight2k3 | wasn't that like 2 haours ago |
| 01:13:15 | midknight2k3 | when that guy REQUESTED it? |
| 01:13:23 | devZer0 | heeeee ! |
| 01:14:01 | Zagor | yes and im now asking for it to be stopped please |
| 01:14:07 | midknight2k3 | ok sorry |
| 01:14:12 | midknight2k3 | *hissss* |
| 01:14:12 | devZer0 | ;) |
| 01:14:27 | midknight2k3 | ask a question i will tell you the answer (it has to be yes/no) |
| 01:14:28 | Zagor | if you want to do art, go and play Isketch |
| 01:14:31 | devZer0 | zagor, did you like arial more? |
| 01:14:40 | midknight2k3 | Sorry jeez did i not say i was sorry? |
| 01:14:44 | Zagor | Arial is the easiest to read |
| 01:14:48 | midknight2k3 | Nah |
| 01:14:50 | midknight2k3 | Verdana! |
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| 01:14:56 | devZer0 | will switch that back |
| 01:15:12 | BoD[] | fonts without serifs are easier to read :) |
| 01:15:38 | Zagor | yes and Arial does NOT have serifs |
| 01:15:51 | BoD[] | exactly! |
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| 01:16:27 | Zagor | the Caption backlight looks good |
| 01:16:29 | | Join devZer0 [0] (jirc@pD951E25C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:16:54 | BoD[] | caption backlight ? what is that |
| 01:17:44 | Zagor | when the backlight switches ON before the song playing finishes and OFF a few seconds after the next song has started playing |
| 01:18:07 | devZer0 | mhh. |
| 01:18:15 | devZer0 | i think about a german translation |
| 01:18:18 | PsycoXul | ok mine's coming out crappy |
| 01:18:23 | BoD[] | oh ok :) |
| 01:18:25 | midknight2k3 | lets see |
| 01:18:40 | BoD[] | i like this feature |
| 01:18:49 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 01:18:53 | midknight2k3 | is it in rockbox? |
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| 01:19:18 | BoD[] | i guess it is;) |
| 01:19:27 | midknight2k3 | i guess the newest dlybld |
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| 01:19:45 | devZer0 | yes |
| 01:19:53 | midknight2k3 | lol\ |
| 01:19:56 | midknight2k3 | i have yesterdays |
| 01:20:00 | midknight2k3 | is it in there? |
| 01:20:00 | devZer0 | better try bleeding edge build |
| 01:20:14 | PsycoXul | i'll just send it to you so i don't flood this chan with crappy ascii art that nobody'll appreciate |
| 01:20:52 | midknight2k3 | *ahem*zagor*ahem* ;) |
| 01:21:16 | tracktheripper | pardon? |
| 01:21:18 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 01:21:22 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:21:35 | tracktheripper | midknight what u on about? |
| 01:21:48 | midknight2k3 | clam down jeez |
| 01:22:33 | tracktheripper | i just wondered why u went *ahem*zagor*ahem |
| 01:22:33 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 01:22:33 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:22:38 | PsycoXul | midknight2k3: how do you like that one? |
| 01:22:59 | midknight2k3 | uh |
| 01:23:03 | midknight2k3 | it's very... |
| 01:23:06 | PsycoXul | the ascii ended up taller than i drew it |
| 01:23:11 | midknight2k3 | weird... |
| 01:23:41 | tracktheripper | plz pipe down on the ASCII art |
| 01:23:49 | midknight2k3 | okay wait |
| 01:23:56 | midknight2k3 | the bleeding edge build 'failed'? |
| 01:23:57 | BoD[] | what ascii art ? |
| 01:24:26 | tracktheripper | these stupid ascii burgers |
| 01:24:26 | tracktheripper | :D |
| 01:24:39 | BoD[] | i didn't see them |
| 01:24:40 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:24:46 | midknight2k3 | they're in private chat |
| 01:24:51 | BoD[] | but... they sound like an interesting concept |
| 01:24:56 | midknight2k3 | which i might add isn't bugging anyone else ripper |
| 01:24:59 | BoD[] | ascii burgers |
| 01:25:06 | midknight2k3 | <PsycoXul> ._xni, |
| 01:25:06 | midknight2k3 | <PsycoXul> _nonnnns |
| 01:25:06 | midknight2k3 | <PsycoXul> <onnnnnvnc |
| 01:25:06 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
| 01:25:06 | midknight2k3 | <PsycoXul> 1********( |
| 01:25:06 | midknight2k3 | <PsycoXul> :;;;;;;;:. |
| 01:25:07 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 01:25:07 | midknight2k3 | <PsycoXul> .=:|=====|_ |
| 01:25:08 | BoD[] | hmmm :) |
| 01:25:09 | midknight2k3 | <PsycoXul> -xxxxlxxxl> |
| 01:25:11 | midknight2k3 | <PsycoXul> xnvnnvnvn= |
| 01:25:13 | midknight2k3 | <PsycoXul> +""""""""` |
| 01:25:21 | midknight2k3 | nice eh |
| 01:25:21 | tracktheripper | thats tracktheripper to you midknight |
| 01:25:21 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 01:25:31 | midknight2k3 | it's too long |
| 01:25:35 | midknight2k3 | ripper is better |
| 01:25:42 | BoD[] | ouch there it is |
| 01:25:44 | midknight2k3 | 'ripper is a gangster!' |
| 01:25:49 | tracktheripper | >-( |
| 01:26:00 | midknight2k3 | <:-( |
| 01:26:11 | BoD[] | and does this is supposed to look like a burger ? |
| 01:26:12 | tracktheripper | ok knight |
| 01:26:51 | midknight2k3 | according to psyco |
| 01:26:53 | tracktheripper | if u want a burger go to Mcdonalds |
| 01:26:54 | midknight2k3 | was mine better? |
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| 01:28:31 | BoD[] | burger time is a good game, though |
| 01:29:18 | | Join Fraunhofer [0] (jirc@ACBE9EAE.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:30:21 | Fraunhofer | hi |
| 01:30:25 | BoD[] | yo |
| 01:30:35 | Fraunhofer | hi bod |
| 01:30:44 | BoD[] | so you're a codec right ? |
| 01:30:52 | BoD[] | :) |
| 01:31:21 | Fraunhofer | nah im someone who uses this codec |
| 01:31:22 | midknight2k3 | be back in a bit |
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| 01:31:48 | BoD[] | me I use lame... because I'm a lamer |
| 01:32:04 | Fraunhofer | Lame isnt as good |
| 01:32:14 | Fraunhofer | Fraun even sounds good at 96kbs |
| 01:32:35 | BoD[] | well |
| 01:32:59 | Fraunhofer | i do admit, Blade is shite |
| 01:33:01 | BoD[] | hey ! what's the codec in an archos ? |
| 01:33:12 | BoD[] | I mean .. the familly |
| 01:33:34 | Fraunhofer | according to the FAQ its a version of the Fraunhofer III codec on the MP3 chip |
| 01:33:52 | BoD[] | ahhhh! |
| 01:34:31 | BoD[] | so I would think that using fraunhofer for coding files is a good idea if you want to play them with the archos |
| 01:34:44 | Fraunhofer | summat like that |
| 01:34:51 | Fraunhofer | don't touch BLADE though |
| 01:35:08 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 01:35:08 | BoD[] | :) i won't |
| 01:35:28 | Fraunhofer | BLADE is only good if you rip at 320kbs |
| 01:35:30 | BoD[] | well i use cdex to rip my cds and I think it comes with lame by default |
| 01:35:39 | BoD[] | but i gues you can use any codec with it |
| 01:35:48 | PsycoXul | http://psyco.yi.org:8042/burger3.html |
| 01:35:55 | Fraunhofer | well ive tried lame but don't think there is a difference between that and fraunhofer |
| 01:36:09 | Fraunhofer | Blade sounds crass at 128kbs |
| 01:36:19 | BoD[] | psycho : it's blurry |
| 01:36:22 | PsycoXul | heh :p |
| 01:36:36 | PsycoXul | oh damn he quit |
| 01:36:45 | BoD[] | blade |
| 01:36:55 | BoD[] | well ok I put it in my black list ;) |
| 01:37:09 | PsycoXul | lame is the superior mp3 encoder |
| 01:37:22 | Fraunhofer | but i would use BLADE instead of WMA |
| 01:37:35 | BoD[] | really? |
| 01:37:39 | BoD[] | what about ogg vorbis |
| 01:37:47 | PsycoXul | vorbis is the superior codec |
| 01:37:54 | PsycoXul | but we can't play that on our archos |
| 01:37:56 | PsycoXul | so |
| 01:37:56 | Fraunhofer | OGG is okay but not widely supported |
| 01:37:56 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:38:01 | Fraunhofer | WMA hurts my ears |
| 01:38:07 | Fraunhofer | MP3Pro sounds good |
| 01:38:17 | PsycoXul | ogg's not a codec, it's a container file format |
| 01:38:30 | Fraunhofer | ohh |
| 01:38:33 | PsycoXul | which is why all those people making .ogm files for movies are ignorant morons |
| 01:38:50 | Fraunhofer | the treble in WMA sounds painful through headphones |
| 01:39:17 | BoD[] | but wma has several versions right ? maybe the current version is better |
| 01:39:28 | Fraunhofer | no it isnt |
| 01:39:39 | Fraunhofer | ive used the newest version in Soundforge and it still sounds crap |
| 01:39:50 | BoD[] | ah ok |
| 01:40:19 | BoD[] | maybe real audio is the best ... just kidding |
| 01:40:27 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:40:32 | BoD[] | :)) |
| 01:40:46 | Fraunhofer | actually WAV sounds best :_) |
| 01:41:02 | BoD[] | haah :) true |
| 01:41:20 | BoD[] | i often see wav files on kazaa |
| 01:41:29 | Fraunhofer | (: |
| 01:41:40 | Fraunhofer | but wavs take too long to download unless u have broadband |
| 01:41:40 | Fraunhofer | :( |
| 01:41:53 | BoD[] | even if you have broadband |
| 01:42:12 | Fraunhofer | but to me 192kbs sounds fine |
| 01:42:17 | BoD[] | well it depends on what broadband really means ;) me i have 512down 128up .... |
| 01:42:46 | Fraunhofer | i have a 64Mb leased line :) |
| 01:42:54 | Fraunhofer | download WAVs in a few moments |
| 01:43:58 | BoD[] | :) |
| 01:43:59 | PsycoXul | well |
| 01:44:02 | PsycoXul | there's also flac |
| 01:44:05 | Fraunhofer | only kidding |
| 01:44:10 | Fraunhofer | im on 56k dialup :( |
| 01:44:39 | BoD[] | dialup |
| 01:44:45 | BoD[] | man how can you survive |
| 01:45:21 | Fraunhofer | lol |
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| 01:51:12 | [rabble] | agh.. |
| 01:51:13 | [rabble] | I'm back.. |
| 01:51:19 | PsycoXul | who're you |
| 01:51:23 | [rabble] | how ya'll doing this evening |
| 01:51:48 | [rabble] | I've been in a few times with some problems.... always found good help here.. |
| 01:52:04 | PsycoXul | ah |
| 01:52:34 | PsycoXul | http://www.iquest.ucsb.edu/sites/Awsch/research/ |
| 01:52:45 | [rabble] | Ok, I just bought an Archos 6000 Recorder, and I think the hag I bought it from gave me the wrong power adapter..it's a Phillips Magnavox 120V > 4.5V output positive tip |
| 01:53:31 | [rabble] | Will that work at all? It doesn't seem to be charging (no charging confirmation screen) and I can't get it to boot (HDD error, I was told it was from not enough juice to spin the disk) |
| 01:54:56 | [rabble] | I'm still running the stock firmware, btw.. |
| 01:55:15 | PsycoXul | i don't think thats enough voltage |
| 01:55:23 | [rabble] | What is it supposed to be? |
| 01:55:41 | PsycoXul | 14:52 < Zagor> 10-12 is the best voltage. amps should to be >= 600mA |
| 01:55:57 | [rabble] | Sweet...yeah, that'd be a problem.. |
| 01:56:18 | [rabble] | Can I just put regular batteries in to make sure everything works (non NiMH)? |
| 01:56:41 | [rabble] | the NiMHs are 1.2V while regualr Energizers are 1.5V |
| 01:57:28 | PsycoXul | i'm not sure |
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| 01:57:55 | [rabble] | has anyone ever put regular batteries in an Archos? |
| 01:58:15 | PsycoXul | i guess so |
| 01:58:16 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:58:26 | PsycoXul | i've heard mixed reports i think |
| 01:59:59 | [rabble] | urgh.. |
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| 02:00:05 | [rabble] | I don't wanna fark around with it.. |
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| 02:06:22 | [rabble] | ok, I'm sure I'll be back soon enough |
| 02:06:25 | [rabble] | thanks for the help |
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| 03:26:35 | midknight2k3 | Hi all |
| 03:27:37 | midknight2k3 | hello? |
| 03:28:22 | midknight2k3 | crackers |
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| 04:31:26 | rhinostool | question: if i install rockbox on my archos does that void the warranty? |
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| 05:02:21 | Nixed | HEllo |
| 05:03:13 | Nixed | Does anyone here have a problem with sound cutting out whit their Archos Recorder when the battery life runs down to 50%? |
| 05:04:29 | Nixed | Should I be recharging the battery at that point? |
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| 05:19:51 | JayG | Hi. |
| 05:20:21 | JayG | Anyone have a problem with sound cutting out when the battery charge is at 50% or below on their Archos Recorder? |
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| 07:09:16 | PureR3asn | Anyone around that can help me out a bit? |
| 07:10:26 | PureR3asn | I've just finished the hard drive replacement on my Archos 6K Recorder, and I'm getting an HD register error |
| 07:11:15 | PureR3asn | Something weird is happening with the power, too, the LCD backlight is "pulsing" |
| 07:11:19 | PureR3asn | just a little bit. |
| 07:11:52 | PureR3asn | any ideas? |
| 07:13:49 | PureR3asn | anyone? |
| 07:17:06 | PureR3asn | 'ello? |
| 07:21:12 | PureR3asn | Anyone ever run across this problem before? |
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| 08:42:54 | Bagder | morning |
| 08:42:59 | Zagor | hi |
| 08:45:42 | Zagor | what is the kosher way to treat addresses that bounce due to their mail box being full? I get a dozen such bounces for each mail on rockbox... |
| 08:46:00 | Bagder | I usually let them bounce a few times and then remove them |
| 08:46:34 | Zagor | how do you like this: |
| 08:46:36 | Zagor | >>> MAIL From:<owner-rockbox@cool.haxx.se> SIZE=2073 |
| 08:46:40 | Zagor | <<< 452 Out of memory |
| 08:46:43 | Zagor | :-) |
| 08:46:47 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 08:47:34 | Zagor | I need automated bounce removal |
| 08:47:42 | Bagder | yeah |
| 08:47:58 | Zagor | 370 names right now... |
| 08:48:26 | Zagor | about a hundred bounces just today... |
| 08:49:14 | | Join Mighty [0] (mboss@h72n1fls35o931.telia.com) |
| 08:49:21 | Zagor | yo, Mighty |
| 08:49:24 | Mighty | morning :-) |
| 08:50:38 | Bagder | 'lo |
| 08:51:15 | Mighty | What plans do you have for the future, ie. -far- into the future with rockbox when less people use the elder Archos players as AJB Multimedia and the new AV generations comes ? |
| 08:51:31 | Bagder | then we go home |
| 08:51:35 | Mighty | :-) |
| 08:51:43 | Zagor | no plans for those. they are a bitch to hack, since all docs are secret. |
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| 08:53:52 | Bagder | can you get the .rss file fine? |
| 08:54:19 | Zagor | testing |
| 08:54:31 | Mighty | Have you thought about the posibility that Archos could give you the information? |
| 08:54:35 | Zagor | yes |
| 08:54:47 | Mighty | They included RB on their CD... |
| 08:54:47 | Bagder | Mighty: we have, and we've asked, and they've said no |
| 08:54:50 | Zagor | Mighty: yes. i've spoken to them but they don't want ot |
| 08:54:51 | Zagor | to |
| 08:54:56 | Mighty | ok |
| 08:55:12 | Bagder | so, when the sh1 series die, so will Rockbox on Archos |
| 08:55:15 | Mighty | they're quite odd people |
| 08:55:16 | Zagor | Mighty: did they ever do that? they said they would, but i've never heard from anyone who actually got it |
| 08:55:54 | Zagor | Bagder: Opera complains: "XML parsing failed: not well-formed (32:81)" :-) |
| 08:55:58 | Mighty | I have no clue, perhaps it takes some time for newly packaged players to get out to the stores |
| 08:56:07 | Bagder | yah |
| 08:56:11 | dwihno | Yay! |
| 08:56:12 | Bagder | but you could get it |
| 08:56:19 | dwihno | Zagor: you hated the patch? :( |
| 08:57:20 | Zagor | that, or they just ditched the idea |
| 08:57:20 | Zagor | dwihno: no. i just have a life :) |
| 08:58:06 | Bagder | bwahahaha |
| 08:58:09 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 08:58:09 | * | Bagder hides |
| 08:58:17 | Mighty | I want to buy a digitalcamera or a new Archos AV*, but I only have money enough for one of them :-) It would have been a lot more fun to have an Archos if there were real programmers writing SW for it :-) |
| 08:59:27 | Zagor | i'd buy the camera for now |
| 08:59:55 | dwihno | Zagor: YOU HATED IT! :~~~( *boooohooo* |
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| 09:00:12 | Mighty | yeah |
| 09:00:40 | webmind | morning |
| 09:02:34 | Mighty | would be fun to know what it is archos thinks would happen if they gave out HW specs to opensourcedevelopers,, perhaps their company explodes or disappears |
| 09:02:50 | Bagder | I'm off for the day |
| 09:02:56 | Mighty | it seems like they'd only have things to win on making alternative versions available for their producs |
| 09:02:58 | Zagor | Bagder: bye |
| 09:03:01 | Bagder | open source talk to listen to |
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| 09:03:18 | Zagor | Mighty: they are afraid their competitors, like creative and apple, will copy them |
| 09:04:04 | Mighty | Zagor, but the competitors can still reverse-engineer the systems if they wanted to, quite simply, if they put a group on doing so.. ? |
| 09:04:04 | Zagor | it's silly, yes, but that is their fear. and I believe they are honest about this. |
| 09:04:20 | Zagor | yeah, we did it... |
| 09:05:02 | Mighty | it'd perhaps be simpler for them to get some form of copyright/patent on their technology if they develop new solutions |
| 09:05:15 | Mighty | instead of just hoping noone will ever figure out how things work |
| 09:05:44 | Zagor | they don't have any new technology. they are just good at putting standard components in a small package. |
| 09:06:20 | Mighty | did they ever ask you when you spoke to them how you figured out the bin/rom encryptionsystem :-) |
| 09:06:48 | Zagor | no. they just said their technicians are impressed :-) |
| 09:06:54 | Mighty | cool |
| 09:07:14 | dwihno | :-) |
| 09:07:18 | dwihno | How DID you figure it out? |
| 09:07:31 | Zagor | hard work |
| 09:07:33 | Zagor | and coffee |
| 09:07:35 | dwihno | And how did you figure out the FM scramble routine? |
| 09:07:36 | Mighty | bruteforce ? |
| 09:07:50 | Zagor | the FM just has a different header. that was easy. |
| 09:07:55 | dwihno | speaking of hard work... man, was it a great hockey game last night?! :D |
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| 09:08:44 | Zagor | Mighty: not brute force. you can only brute force keys to a known encryption algorithm. finding out the algorithm is manual work. |
| 09:08:44 | Mighty | Zagor you have equipment on your work that can be connected to the 'side' of a binary bus to spy on the data and such things? |
| 09:08:52 | Zagor | yes |
| 09:10:14 | Mighty | I can imagine the guy at Archos' labs who developed their encryption had a funny day |
| 09:10:47 | Zagor | it's not real encryption. it's just scrambling |
| 09:11:13 | Mighty | ok |
| 09:11:14 | Zagor | some shifts here, some bytes moved there. |
| 09:11:51 | dwihno | So you got the scrambled and unscrambled, and you then figured out the algo? |
| 09:12:13 | Zagor | dwihno: no, we mostly compared different scrambled versions |
| 09:12:34 | dwihno | :-) |
| 09:12:39 | dwihno | You're a true Hacker(tm) |
| 09:12:46 | * | Zagor bows |
| 09:15:27 | Mighty | Zagor do you every write intro/demoeffects these days or any graphics ? |
| 09:15:47 | Zagor | no, that was many years ago |
| 09:16:00 | Zagor | just lcd graphics for rockbox :-) |
| 09:16:04 | Mighty | you don't have anything saved somewhere that runs on linux? |
| 09:16:21 | Zagor | you can run all our old c64 demos in the vice c64 emulator |
| 09:16:58 | Zagor | the demos are available here: kjer/horizon/">http://www.contactor.se/~kjer/horizon/ |
| 09:17:00 | Mighty | what was the name of the group, contactor ? |
| 09:17:03 | Mighty | ok |
| 09:17:11 | Zagor | the group was called Horizon |
| 09:17:19 | Mighty | ahh contactor is the company you work for.. |
| 09:17:22 | Zagor | yes |
| 09:17:25 | Mighty | ok |
| 09:17:52 | Mighty | I joined #contactor some weeks ago and started to ask about introeffects :-) |
| 09:18:08 | Mighty | that explains why they quite soon thought I was a moron |
| 09:18:11 | Zagor | haha |
| 09:18:16 | * | dwihno remembers Horizon. |
| 09:18:24 | Zagor | #contactor is a channel for our cstrike server |
| 09:18:47 | Mighty | you weren't active at all in the introscene during the Amiga years ? |
| 09:19:36 | Mighty | we used to run away from school in 5-6'th grade and watch amigaintros on my friends bigbrother's computer :-) |
| 09:19:41 | Zagor | no. we did a few demos for the amiga, but we mostly went into more serious systems programming |
| 09:19:45 | Mighty | still remember the DesertDream intro |
| 09:24:40 | Mighty | I found some funny links, http://www.zipzaps.com |
| 09:24:54 | Mighty | 6 cm long, fully functional RC-cars ^ |
| 09:25:59 | Mighty | and this, http://www.che-ez.com/english/snap/index.html |
| 09:27:42 | Schnueff | moin |
| 09:28:03 | dwihno | Howdy Schnueff |
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| 09:36:53 | Quelsaruk | morning |
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| 09:46:46 | Zagor | whee, my patch is in 2.5.68-ce2 at least |
| 09:46:50 | Mighty | nice |
| 09:47:17 | Mighty | I actually thought about the initial write delay a couple of days ago when it stalled for quite some time |
| 09:47:39 | dwihno | Zagor: neato :) Will it make the 2.4 series? |
| 09:47:58 | dwihno | Zagor: my patch is not in CVS ;-) |
| 09:48:01 | Zagor | dwihno: I don't know. i've had no comments yet. we'll see in the next prepatches |
| 09:48:25 | Zagor | Mighty: I've actually known about the cause of this for a very long time, but never got around to fixing a proper patch until this weekend |
| 09:50:07 | Schnueff | uh 200K barrier breached |
| 09:50:26 | * | Schnueff works through his mails. |
| 09:52:04 | Zagor | we need the sokoban level loader |
| 09:52:18 | Schnueff | adi was working on it |
| 09:52:30 | Zagor | yes. i think he's pretty much done too. |
| 09:52:47 | Schnueff | good |
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| 10:57:38 | Wunsoong | anybody here? |
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| 10:59:19 | dwihno | Mr. Bill is around. |
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| 11:01:21 | Wunsoong | can the jukeboxs play wav files? |
| 11:02:11 | dwihno | nope |
| 11:02:17 | dwihno | next question :) |
| 11:04:35 | Wunsoong | man... thats some bs |
| 11:04:56 | PsycoXul | well |
| 11:05:00 | PsycoXul | they theoretically could |
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| 11:05:18 | PsycoXul | but not without information (and maybe tools) that we may never obtain |
| 11:05:21 | Wunsoong | thats what i figure |
| 11:05:54 | PsycoXul | we'd need to know how to program the MAS chips |
| 11:06:00 | Wunsoong | i dont see why arhcos wouldn't have made them compatible with wav in the first place |
| 11:06:07 | PsycoXul | and the only way to find that out is to license them and get the SDK |
| 11:06:20 | PsycoXul | which entails lots of money and an NDA that would prevent the source from being opened |
| 11:06:48 | Wunsoong | why do mp3s add silence to the begining and ending of files anyway? |
| 11:06:59 | PsycoXul | they don't |
| 11:07:14 | Wunsoong | dont they? |
| 11:07:38 | Wunsoong | like a split second of silence.. |
| 11:07:55 | PsycoXul | nope they don't |
| 11:07:58 | PsycoXul | some encoders do... |
| 11:08:10 | Wunsoong | ic.. |
| 11:08:13 | Wunsoong | hmm |
| 11:08:15 | PsycoXul | and playback can |
| 11:08:32 | PsycoXul | if it doesn't strip all the excess data surroundin the mp3 |
| 11:08:43 | Wunsoong | so if i had a loop in wav format, i could encode it to mp3 and it will still loop in the jukebox? |
| 11:09:02 | PsycoXul | possibly |
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| 11:11:00 | Wunsoong | hmmm.. would you happen to know which encoders don't add silence? |
| 11:11:19 | PsycoXul | nope |
| 11:11:32 | PsycoXul | there's also mp3 cutter progs that'll cut at mp3 frames |
| 11:11:33 | Wunsoong | i just tried.. added .08 seconds of silence |
| 11:11:45 | Wunsoong | i have a wav editor though.. |
| 11:11:45 | PsycoXul | so you could encode it and then cut out the good stuff |
| 11:12:02 | Wunsoong | ill cut the silence and save, and when i open its there again |
| 11:13:44 | langhaarrocker | how long is the piece of silence you're talking about? |
| 11:13:50 | nelliep | Hi |
| 11:13:57 | langhaarrocker | hi |
| 11:14:40 | nelliep | If you go to a forum called hydogen audio there's loads of info about all encoding stuff |
| 11:15:05 | nelliep | hydrogen audio..sorry |
| 11:16:00 | dwihno | you can also use the lame −−nogap option |
| 11:16:32 | Wunsoong | oooo |
| 11:16:37 | Wunsoong | cool, lemme try |
| 11:17:47 | PsycoXul | i dunno if that'll do quite what you want, but it's worth a try.. if nothing else there may be a way to use it to do it |
| 11:19:34 | nelliep | Some time ago I made the request for backlight on with new song |
| 11:19:40 | webmind | hmm, jukebox performs nice with normal alkaline batts |
| 11:19:58 | webmind | ah bit odd maybe.. but it seems longer then or as long as the normal ones |
| 11:20:00 | nelliep | it's been implemented I think...is that a coincidence |
| 11:20:18 | webmind | Wunsoong, lame works nicely |
| 11:20:36 | webmind | ah.. that hint was given already :) |
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| 12:47:20 | quel|out | btw, i get red light freeze when loading data into the mpeg buffer when the lift stops on the 6th floor ;) |
| 12:55:16 | Zagor | I don't want to know the problem, I want to know the fix ;) |
| 12:55:52 | dwihno | Zagor: apply my patch for starters ;) |
| 12:56:40 | quel|out | Zagor: the strange thing is that if i stop the lift on the 4th floor.. i don't get the freeze :P |
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| 12:56:58 | quel|out | i'm going out to drink a beer |
| 12:56:59 | quel|out | cu later |
| 12:57:00 | quel|out | :) |
| 12:57:06 | Zagor | i know someone who gets the freeze in a particular subway station... |
| 12:57:15 | Zagor | definitely magic |
| 12:57:19 | quel|out | too much work for a morning :) |
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| 13:09:55 | langhaarrocker | To much work? That's why I took half a day off yesterday: http://mitglied.lycos.de/xphobie/Mellenbeck_2003_04_23/ |
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| 14:57:44 | Zagor | dwihno: rejoice |
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| 15:00:49 | dwihno | Zagor: \o/ |
| 15:00:52 | dwihno | or something like that ;-) |
| 15:00:58 | Zagor | hehe |
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| 15:01:23 | dwihno | whoa |
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| 15:04:51 | Schnueff | hehe, zagor is in big-scale memory saving mode :) |
| 15:08:12 | Zagor | nah, just tidying up some bits |
| 15:10:32 | dwihno | Zagor: did you find the patch ugly? |
| 15:10:50 | Zagor | no, i mean the settings change |
| 15:13:48 | * | dwihno ment "my" patch |
| 15:15:17 | dwihno | mean ment ment, spean spent spent :-) |
| 15:15:39 | Zagor | the french playlist bug is wacko |
| 15:16:17 | dwihno | of course, you need to add additional frog legs to make it run flawlessly... the frenchies are a bit strange ... ;) |
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| 15:25:10 | elinenbe | Zagor: while you are going through all the patches check out this one: |
| 15:25:11 | elinenbe | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=697085&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 15:25:22 | elinenbe | that is an AWESOME patch −− such great functionality |
| 15:27:34 | Zagor | good feature, not so good code |
| 15:27:48 | Zagor | and adding it will definitely break all daily builds (>200k) |
| 15:27:54 | Zagor | :-) |
| 15:29:00 | Zagor | the patch copies large chunks of tree.c into wps.c |
| 15:29:09 | elinenbe | Zagor, I think it may be time to remove games from the daily builds |
| 15:29:36 | dwihno | Zagor: tell me what you think about my patch :-) |
| 15:29:39 | elinenbe | Or, create a stub loader for the time being? How hard would that be? |
| 15:29:46 | dwihno | <Zagor> Boo, it was SO bad! |
| 15:30:43 | Zagor | removing games, or at least demos, is a better short-term solution |
| 15:31:02 | elinenbe | Zagor: I agree... although I think sokoban should stay in ;) |
| 15:31:04 | dwihno | remove the demos first (imho) |
| 15:31:05 | elinenbe | hehe |
| 15:31:36 | elinenbe | Zagor: that patch is most powerful. I think you should commit it! |
| 15:31:36 | dwihno | games = more fun |
| 15:31:43 | dwihno | or remove sokoban :-) |
| 15:31:52 | dwihno | that will give much space :) |
| 15:32:25 | Zagor | i was hoping adiadmas would give us his sokoban level loader soon |
| 15:32:48 | dwihno | remove sokoban, add snake :-) |
| 15:33:13 | Zagor | haha |
| 15:33:24 | elinenbe | there actually was a really nice snake game in there a while back. |
| 15:33:55 | Zagor | it will come back as a plugin |
| 15:34:52 | elinenbe | Zagor: how do you expect plugins to work? |
| 15:34:58 | elinenbe | Will there be menu/file plugins? |
| 15:35:14 | elinenbe | like for new file types −− you can associate a plugin with it? |
| 15:35:25 | elinenbe | and where you can add something to a menu? |
| 15:35:35 | Zagor | how do you mean? |
| 15:36:07 | elinenbe | well, let's say I create a .doc plugin that can edit .doc files |
| 15:36:16 | elinenbe | and I have a game plugin |
| 15:36:20 | Zagor | ah, yes. I plan to have a config file connecting file types to plugins. and also a plugin browser in the menu, to start plugins that don't work on files |
| 15:36:28 | elinenbe | won't those be launched sperately? |
| 15:36:32 | elinenbe | I see. |
| 15:37:00 | elinenbe | are those the only 2 types of plugins that you can think of? |
| 15:38:28 | elinenbe | I am designing a plugin that adds ogg and wmv support! ; ) |
| 15:39:37 | Zagor | haha, when you have those I promise I will add support for them :) |
| 15:40:45 | Zagor | no we need other methods to launch plugins too. for example many different plugins can be ran on an .mp3 file: id3 editor, mp3 cutter/editor, analyzers etc. |
| 15:41:05 | Zagor | I expect we'll have some on+play variant |
| 15:49:29 | dwihno | "plugins" :_D |
| 15:49:33 | dwihno | that will rock! |
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| 16:36:35 | langhaarrocker | What do unix guy use for validating fat32 integrity? fsck? |
| 16:42:52 | langhaarrocker | ,99dosfsck 2.8 (28 Feb 2001) |
| 16:42:52 | langhaarrocker | dosfsck 2.8, 28 Feb 2001, FAT32, LFN |
| 16:42:52 | langhaarrocker | Warning: FAT32 support is still ALPHA. |
| 16:42:52 | langhaarrocker | There are differences between boot sector and its backup. |
| 16:42:52 | langhaarrocker | Differences: (offset:original/backup) |
| 16:42:53 | langhaarrocker | 3:2a/4d, 4:4f/53, 5:7a/57, 6:4b/49, 7:70/4e, 8:49/34, 9:48/2e, 10:43/31 |
| 16:42:55 | langhaarrocker | , 65:01/00 |
| 16:42:57 | langhaarrocker | 1) Copy original to backup |
| 16:42:59 | langhaarrocker | 2) Copy backup to original |
| 16:43:01 | langhaarrocker | 3) No action |
| 16:43:03 | langhaarrocker | Is that evil?,99 |
| 16:43:18 | Zagor | nah :) |
| 16:43:46 | langhaarrocker | Just no action and continue, I guess. |
| 16:45:27 | quel|out | does anyone here use that cygwin minimal sdk enviroment?? |
| 16:47:50 | langhaarrocker | not me |
| 16:51:38 | dwihno | Me does |
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| 17:14:39 | langhaarrocker | quel: do your goats work on linux? |
| 17:32:00 | langhaarrocker | has anybody experienced typical problems copying big files onto the jukebox using linux? |
| 17:32:12 | Schnueff | what big |
| 17:32:47 | Schnueff | for tens of M no |
| 17:33:00 | Schnueff | bigger i dont get usually |
| 17:33:05 | langhaarrocker | More hundreds of M |
| 17:33:12 | Schnueff | dunno then |
| 17:33:30 | langhaarrocker | But it stopped after 40 mb |
| 17:33:35 | Schnueff | aha |
| 17:33:43 | Schnueff | battery full and all? |
| 17:34:14 | langhaarrocker | That's what I suspected first, too. But they look full. |
| 17:34:55 | Schnueff | stops = no progress or operation stops? |
| 17:35:04 | langhaarrocker | no progress |
| 17:35:18 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: for how long? |
| 17:35:19 | langhaarrocker | I can ls and see the target |
| 17:36:10 | Schnueff | hm |
| 17:36:13 | langhaarrocker | ~ 5min |
| 17:37:17 | Zagor | I'd say give it 10 minutes before doing anything drastic |
| 17:38:25 | langhaarrocker | But how can it be that it doesn't progress for 5 min? That's a bit much for cached data, isn't it? |
| 17:39:57 | Schnueff | hm |
| 17:40:07 | Schnueff | i have the sync mount options set for my rockbox |
| 17:40:11 | Schnueff | dunno |
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| 17:45:15 | Triple-z | hi |
| 17:46:36 | Triple-z | anyone know why the cue files patch http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-09/att-1078/04-cuefile.c never added to rockbox? |
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| 17:51:17 | Triple-z | how can i apply this patch? |
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| 17:53:37 | Schnueff | Triple-z: it's quite old, it probably cannot applied without updates |
| 17:54:14 | Triple-z | damn |
| 17:54:28 | Triple-z | its really cool feature |
| 17:54:33 | Schnueff | i dont remember why it wasnt used |
| 17:55:40 | Schnueff | but it was in the days before the patch tracker, so it also possible that it just got 'lost' |
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| 18:07:45 | * | Schnueff .. away |
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| 18:15:48 | Zagor | hmm, seems not many people tried my remote fix |
| 18:16:23 | Zagor | it doesn't work :) |
| 18:18:04 | Triple-z | heh |
| 18:22:26 | Zagor | any player owner here? |
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| 18:34:22 | Zagor | how the heck did we add 40K to the firmware in two days? there is something fishy going on |
| 18:38:44 | Zagor | !! |
| 18:39:53 | quel|out | must go |
| 18:39:53 | quel|out | sorry |
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| 18:40:13 | Zagor | found it |
| 18:40:23 | Zagor | nasty bugger |
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| 19:37:52 | Zagor | matsl: can you try the sleep timer? |
| 19:39:15 | matsl | Zagor: huh... with what my bare hands? (adventure) |
| 19:39:32 | Zagor | extreme rockboxing |
| 19:39:45 | matsl | Zagor: what about the timer? |
| 19:40:01 | Zagor | there's a bug report that it doesn't work on players. just stops, doesn't turn off. |
| 19:40:51 | matsl | Zagor: ok. test case: set timer, watch what happens? |
| 19:41:46 | Zagor | yeah |
| 19:42:00 | matsl | Zagor: what version: CVS-HEAD |
| 19:42:15 | Zagor | yes |
| 19:42:22 | matsl | os just any recent? |
| 19:42:38 | Zagor | I think the report is for 2.0, so any recent should do |
| 19:43:05 | matsl | Zagor: ok. I'll try it in a few minutes. |
| 19:43:12 | Zagor | thanks |
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| 21:14:21 | Norrin | Quick question, what is the 8MB recorder files for on the daily builds page? |
| 21:14:38 | Zagor | builds for modded recorders |
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| 21:15:17 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 21:15:22 | Norrin | Sorry, haven't heard about this. Someone figured out how to install 8MB of memory versus the 2MB it comes with? |
| 21:15:53 | Norrin | Disregard, found the link under the hardware mods section. Thanks. |
| 21:17:06 | Zagor | :) |
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| 21:17:14 | Zagor | yo bagder |
| 21:17:17 | Bagder | het ho |
| 21:17:20 | Bagder | hey even |
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| 21:17:37 | tracktheripper | hi bagder and zagor |
| 21:17:49 | Zagor | howdy |
| 21:18:00 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 21:18:25 | Zagor | Bagder: your fd=-1 init added 40K to the firmware size :) |
| 21:18:54 | Bagder | gah |
| 21:19:02 | Bagder | how? |
| 21:19:05 | Bagder | ah |
| 21:19:09 | Bagder | those arrays! |
| 21:19:12 | Zagor | exactly |
| 21:19:24 | Zagor | tricky thing |
| 21:19:41 | Bagder | so we need an init call instead then |
| 21:19:52 | Zagor | yeah, I did that |
| 21:19:56 | Bagder | goodie |
| 21:22:56 | Zagor | Bagder: can you fix the fprintf-on-uisim bug? |
| 21:23:44 | Bagder | haven't read about that, but it sounds like something for me |
| 21:23:46 | Bagder | tomorrow though |
| 21:24:19 | Zagor | ok. nothing written about it (yet), just simply rockbox fprintf takes a fd, while posix fprintf takes a FILE* |
| 21:24:31 | Bagder | aha |
| 21:24:34 | Bagder | right |
| 21:24:55 | Bagder | we should make it use our one |
| 21:25:20 | Zagor | right |
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| 21:55:00 | tracktheripper | hi |
| 21:55:53 | tracktheripper | R.I.P. Rockbox Demos :( |
| 21:58:07 | tracktheripper | thanks a lot Zagor :-) |
| 21:58:26 | Zagor | :) |
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| 21:58:47 | tracktheripper | I used to enjoy watching the Snow demo in my bed :-) |
| 21:59:29 | matsl | Zagor: timer doesn't work properly on player but I can't get the exact behavior reported |
| 21:59:58 | matsl | Zagor: so far i have two cases |
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| 22:00:13 | matsl | 1. when playing, never stops |
| 22:00:38 | matsl | 2. when not playing, it hangs. |
| 22:00:47 | Zagor | hangs? |
| 22:01:07 | matsl | scrolling stops, doesn't respond to keys |
| 22:02:01 | matsl | i havent timed it but I have a feeling that it isn't accurate either. |
| 22:02:21 | matsl | i have set it to 1m but the hanging occurs past 1m. |
| 22:02:42 | matsl | is this code common for player and recorder |
| 22:02:59 | Zagor | i think the time check is only done once a minute |
| 22:03:06 | Zagor | yes |
| 22:03:28 | matsl | ok. so it could be a little off then |
| 22:03:55 | matsl | Ii have reported it. can i do something else? |
| 22:04:04 | Zagor | no that's fine, thanks |
| 22:04:12 | matsl | ok. bbl |
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| 22:12:46 | tracktheripper | i actually tried that in that feature request :-) |
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| 22:15:03 | tracktheripper | <−−- converted 2 album covers to 5x7 1bit images |
| 22:15:44 | Zagor | nice, were they? ;) |
| 22:16:07 | tracktheripper | the one with the 4 black dots is the J.Lo "This Is Me.. Then" |
| 22:16:34 | tracktheripper | the otther one with the 7 black dots is the Misteeq album "Licking On Both Sides" :-) |
| 22:21:25 | tracktheripper | cheer up Zagor :) |
| 22:22:34 | Zagor | i'm always cheery |
| 22:23:07 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 22:23:24 | tracktheripper | Feature request "Make Zagor Smile" |
| 22:23:29 | tracktheripper | Resolution "Rejected" |
| 22:23:41 | tracktheripper | Comment "This is not possible, due to hardware limitations" |
| 22:23:41 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 22:25:25 | tracktheripper | that was a joke Zagor :) |
| 22:27:21 | Zagor | you know one can be happy without churning out smileys all the time... |
| 22:27:57 | tracktheripper | :P |
| 22:29:06 | tracktheripper | just force of habit Zagor |
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| 22:40:46 | LinusN | Zagor: why did you change app.lds? |
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| 23:27:27 | [rabble] | Is it normal for my archos to shutdown whenever it gets squeezed? |
| 23:27:44 | Gyrosound | Rabble is this when you apply pressure on the blue corners? |
| 23:27:47 | [rabble] | yup |
| 23:27:51 | [rabble] | any of them |
| 23:28:09 | Gyrosound | yes this is normal |
| 23:28:15 | [rabble] | Do all of them do that? |
| 23:28:21 | [rabble] | and is there a way to fix it? |
| 23:28:21 | Gyrosound | since the blue corners also house the battery contacts |
| 23:28:27 | Gyrosound | no there isnt |
| 23:28:32 | [rabble] | sonofabitch |
| 23:28:36 | [rabble] | Okey |
| 23:28:36 | Gyrosound | Just don't press on the blue corners |
| 23:28:39 | [rabble] | hehe |
| 23:29:04 | [rabble] | BTW, I finally got a chance to check out rockbox after I did my HDD upgrade.. |
| 23:29:11 | [rabble] | Holy balls, you guys did an AWESOME job on that |
| 23:29:16 | [rabble] | Thank you, very very much |
| 23:29:21 | Gyrosound | lol |
| 23:29:33 | Gyrosound | Archos arent too happy that their firmware is being rejected |
| 23:29:38 | [rabble] | The archos firmware sucks ass... it's like a whole new machine.. |
| 23:29:45 | [rabble] | Have they contacted any of the Rockbox team about it? |
| 23:29:55 | Gyrosound | but there are some things I miss from the Archos firmware |
| 23:30:10 | [rabble] | Yeah, one thing I noticed is the lack of keylock in rockbox |
| 23:30:16 | [rabble] | unless I just can't find it.. |
| 23:30:41 | Gyrosound | I miss the Folder Create/Delete option and being able to put in ID3 tags for recording |
| 23:31:11 | [rabble] | Is there a keylock on rockbox? |
| 23:31:27 | [rabble] | Oh yeah, I didn't even notice that I can't create/delete folders |
| 23:31:35 | Gyrosound | there is somewhere |
| 23:31:40 | Gyrosound | try reading the faq |
| 23:31:51 | [rabble] | Has Archos contacted any of the Rockbox team about the firmware? |
| 23:31:53 | [rabble] | ok, thanks |
| 23:32:05 | Gyrosound | :) |
| 23:32:21 | Gyrosound | I wish the damn thing could record in CBR not VBR |
| 23:33:06 | [rabble] | ew, I noticed that.. |
| 23:33:25 | [rabble] | I thought it was the quality setting I had it on, though |
| 23:33:53 | Gyrosound | the thing cannot record in CBR only VBR |
| 23:34:44 | [rabble] | hmm.. |
| 23:36:04 | Gyrosound | I learnt on the Archos website the MP3 chip in the Archos is a variant of the Fraunhofer III codec |
| 23:39:03 | [rabble] | Wouldn't it have to be to play mp3s? |
| 23:39:41 | Gyrosound | im on about the recording chip, which is a variant of the Fraunhofer 3 codec |
| 23:40:48 | [rabble] | ahh.. |
| 23:41:01 | [rabble] | So are you part of the Dev team, or just an admirer? |
| 23:41:11 | Gyrosound | just an admirer |
| 23:47:36 | Gyrosound | Rabble what archos unit do u have? |
| 23:49:53 | [rabble] | 6k recorder |
| 23:49:57 | [rabble] | sorry, I was away for a sec. |
| 23:50:27 | [rabble] | Is there a driver for the archos as a USB storage device? |
| 23:50:56 | Gyrosound | Drivers are on the Archos website |
| 23:51:23 | [rabble] | k, thanks |
| 23:51:25 | [rabble] | brb |
| 23:53:37 | Gyrosound | Rabble do you mean use the Archos for directly storing files of a digital camera or the like? |
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