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| 08:23:31 | Zagor | wtf?? "Host irc.eu.openprojects.net. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)" |
| 08:23:37 | Zagor | wtf?? "Host irc.openprojects.net. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)" |
| 08:23:57 | Bagder | its an only domain |
| 08:23:59 | Zagor | right, they renamed to freenode. /me silly |
| 08:24:01 | Bagder | freenoet.net |
| 08:24:05 | Bagder | uh |
| 08:24:10 | Bagder | too early to type |
| 08:28:45 | Bagder | Zagor: I have an idea |
| 08:29:08 | Bagder | we should try to have a "patch spring cleaning" session for Rockbox |
| 08:29:33 | Bagder | organized to deal with old patches, to apply, to close, to catch up |
| 08:29:51 | Zagor | not a bad idea |
| 08:29:56 | * | Bagder runs to fill up a cup of coffee |
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| 08:31:14 | Bagder | I'm not sure on the details, but I feel a need to shorten our list |
| 08:32:18 | adi|home | damn you bagder.. 30 seconds after i commit my comment on the "stop refusing ...." i see your comment at the same time :) |
| 08:32:27 | Bagder | :-] |
| 08:33:02 | | Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) |
| 08:34:06 | dwihno | Howdy ho |
| 08:34:15 | Bagder | morning dwihno boy |
| 08:34:26 | Zagor | hi dwihno. any news from the testing grounds? |
| 08:36:29 | dwihno | Nothing new :-/ Didn't hang (is that good or bad? ^_^) |
| 08:37:28 | dwihno | I have a multipart question |
| 08:37:47 | dwihno | a) if a hard disk makes a "clunking" sound, what's wrong? the heads banging against the wall? |
| 08:38:05 | dwihno | b) is it possible to fix the above and retreive the data? |
| 08:38:18 | Zagor | a) some disks clunk as part of normal operation |
| 08:38:53 | Zagor | uh, you need to describe the error more |
| 08:42:55 | dwihno | Well, the HD controller reports a disk, but gives no access whatsoever |
| 08:43:17 | Zagor | 2.5" ? |
| 08:43:55 | dwihno | 3.5" |
| 08:43:57 | dwihno | external usb2 |
| 08:44:51 | dwihno | Every time a read is attempted, the disk clunks lots of times. |
| 08:45:00 | Zagor | disassemble it and put it in the computer on a proper ide connection and see what you can get out of it |
| 08:45:07 | dwihno | dw.lahma.net/hd_click.mp3 |
| 08:45:34 | dwihno | listen |
| 08:45:45 | dwihno | it happens even if it is not connected |
| 08:48:30 | dwihno | (when it has power) |
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| 08:54:02 | dwihno | enlighten me :) |
| 08:54:58 | Zagor | no can do. a clunk doesn't say much, i'm afraid. |
| 08:55:29 | dwihno | Did you listen to the sound? |
| 08:55:43 | dwihno | That's what happens even if the disk is not attached to the computer |
| 08:56:24 | adi|home | Zagor what kind of usb2.0 card are you using? |
| 08:56:55 | Bagder | a belkin one |
| 08:57:01 | Bagder | I have the same |
| 08:57:02 | Zagor | "USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 01)" |
| 08:57:08 | adi|home | damnit.. |
| 08:57:15 | adi|home | i can't get my machine to even see my card... |
| 08:57:24 | adi|home | where did you see that info listed under? |
| 08:57:28 | Zagor | lspci |
| 08:57:58 | adi|home | 00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 11) |
| 08:58:00 | Zagor | neat, it contains both an ehci and ohci root hub |
| 08:58:04 | adi|home | thats the only one i see... |
| 08:58:12 | Zagor | nope, that's the one from your motherboard |
| 08:58:16 | adi|home | nods |
| 08:58:44 | adi|home | i checked the spec that i dl'd off the asus website for my mother board.. and i didn't see any jumpers or anything to turn it off.. |
| 08:58:50 | adi|home | and ive tried switching pci slots |
| 08:58:51 | adi|home | no go |
| 08:58:57 | adi|home | any other ideas?> |
| 08:59:18 | Zagor | what model usb card do you have? |
| 08:59:40 | dwihno | 95% uses the NEC stuff afaik |
| 08:59:47 | Zagor | yes |
| 08:59:51 | adi|home | Belkin F5U220 |
| 08:59:54 | adi|home | 5 port |
| 08:59:54 | Bagder | and that's generally good |
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| 09:00:00 | Bagder | nec is fine 2.0 |
| 09:00:55 | adi|home | it was intended for my fathers machine.. so i didn't look for a linux tag with it.. |
| 09:01:09 | adi|home | but then he bought anothero ne.. and i was stuck with this one.. with not reciept. |
| 09:02:37 | Zagor | strange |
| 09:02:46 | Bagder | adi|home: what kernel version? |
| 09:02:52 | adi|home | 2.4.20 |
| 09:03:30 | dwihno | You DID apply the USB2 patch? |
| 09:03:37 | dwihno | It's a requirement, methinks |
| 09:03:40 | Zagor | anyone know a program what can draw dependency graphs, including recursive ones? |
| 09:03:47 | Bagder | 2.4.20 does 2.0 built-in |
| 09:03:50 | Zagor | 2.4.20 inclues usb2 already |
| 09:04:40 | dwihno | It does? Whoa, Nelly! :) |
| 09:15:40 | adi|home | okay.. when i do an install of linux (rh specifically) i get a module-info file in /boot |
| 09:15:53 | adi|home | but when i do a kernel build.. that file is nowhere to be foound... |
| 09:15:56 | adi|home | am i missing somthing? |
| 09:16:49 | Zagor | what does it contain? |
| 09:17:02 | Zagor | i don't see what you need it for |
| 09:17:08 | dwihno | Is ALSA a part of the standard kernel yet? |
| 09:17:20 | adi|home | looks like just a list of module name info details... |
| 09:17:21 | adi|home | *shrugs* |
| 09:17:22 | Zagor | dwihno: i don't think so |
| 09:18:08 | dwihno | ALSA rules! :D |
| 09:18:11 | dwihno | Yay for ALSA |
| 09:18:19 | dwihno | And salsa, starka såsen etc. |
| 09:18:41 | Bagder | ALSA is in 2.5 |
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| 10:51:50 | Quelsaruk | morning |
| 10:56:12 | Zagor | dwihno: so did you actually do anything with it yesterday that would normally make it hang? |
| 10:56:39 | dwihno | Zagor: Not really... Although I've found a quite effective way. Turn the pitch up a bit and go rollerskating :D |
| 10:57:04 | Zagor | pitch up? |
| 10:57:47 | Quelsaruk | dwihno: seems like if you love that nasty bug :) |
| 10:58:15 | dwihno | Zagor: Yes. On+up/down :-) |
| 10:58:27 | dwihno | It empties the buffer more quickly |
| 10:58:41 | dwihno | I listen to music at 108% sometimes. |
| 10:58:50 | dwihno | Prodigy beats go totally mental! :D |
| 10:58:56 | dwihno | Perfect for agressive sporting. |
| 10:59:28 | Quelsaruk | dwihno: listen to sonata arctica, or even rage. |
| 10:59:41 | Quelsaruk | Those are perfect |
| 10:59:44 | Quelsaruk | ;) |
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| 11:00:36 | dwihno | Joddla med Siw is also cool. Especially "Svärmor tog täcket". |
| 11:11:42 | Quelsaruk | rebooting |
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| 12:06:38 | tracktheripper | morning |
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| 12:08:34 | tracktheripper | :) |
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| 12:43:19 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 12:43:29 | tracktheripper | <−−- still feels an MP3 file is an MP3 file |
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| 13:05:23 | webmind | morning |
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| 13:11:41 | dwihno | Zagor: Got a report for you |
| 13:11:50 | dwihno | Zagor: disk poweroff disabled |
| 13:12:27 | dwihno | Zagor: When I walked, I got 3 hangs. I could navigate the interface freely, the timer stopped, but everything worked until next disk read (kaboom!) |
| 13:15:38 | Zagor | ok |
| 13:16:58 | dwihno | Want me to run some extra special lots-of-debug-messages build? |
| 13:18:10 | Zagor | i haven't made any yet |
| 13:18:37 | dwihno | I'll gladly run such a build. Would be neat to squash the bug once and for all. |
| 13:19:52 | Quelsaruk | umm.. |
| 13:19:59 | Quelsaruk | i have a little problem with my jukebox |
| 13:20:27 | Quelsaruk | everytime i plug it to the computer and try to mount the device my pc hangs :( |
| 13:21:00 | Quelsaruk | i can hear a little 'tlcack!' coming from the hd, like if it couldn't spin up |
| 13:21:25 | Quelsaruk | but i can run rockbox and play files and do whatever i want... |
| 13:21:42 | Quelsaruk | everything except mounting the drive on the computer |
| 13:21:46 | Quelsaruk | :( |
| 13:23:40 | Zagor | windows? |
| 13:24:04 | Quelsaruk | and linux |
| 13:24:11 | Quelsaruk | all in one :) |
| 13:24:36 | Zagor | are you telling me your entire linux box hangs when you type "mount /mnt/archos" ? |
| 13:25:22 | Quelsaruk | .... are you gonna kill me if i say so? |
| 13:25:23 | Hes | My SMP linux boxes hang almost always when I plug in the archos. |
| 13:25:48 | Zagor | Hes: the entire box? not just the mount? |
| 13:25:58 | Hes | Entire box, hard hang. |
| 13:26:06 | Zagor | wowsers |
| 13:26:14 | Hes | I think it's SMP related. |
| 13:26:23 | Zagor | could be |
| 13:26:30 | Zagor | Quelsaruk: which kernel are you using? |
| 13:26:53 | Quelsaruk | let me remeber... |
| 13:26:55 | Hes | It's better if I do the plugin on an idle box which has just been rebooted. |
| 13:27:10 | Quelsaruk | could it be something like 2.4.20.9 ?? |
| 13:27:11 | Hes | with no other USB using modules loaded (USB audio or something) |
| 13:27:13 | Zagor | Quelsaruk: run "uname -a" to find out |
| 13:27:52 | Hes | and I've had this since last summer... tried up to 2.4.19-rc1. |
| 13:28:32 | Quelsaruk | zagor... i'm now on win2k because *don't ask me why* nowadays it's more stable than my linux system. :(( |
| 13:28:58 | Zagor | sounds bad |
| 13:28:59 | Quelsaruk | yesterday my whole box hanged twice. And i was doing nothing. |
| 13:29:19 | Hes | Bad hardware possibly, bad connection or overheating somewhere? |
| 13:29:28 | Quelsaruk | overheating |
| 13:29:50 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 13:30:17 | Quelsaruk | i must buy a gasoline can and show this computer what's *real* fire..... |
| 13:30:55 | Hes | My home box started doing hard hangs before christmas... it was only slightly overclocked (450 to 500 MHz P2 dual CPU) but dropping back to 450 fixed it. It had been working just fine, overclocked, for a couple years. |
| 13:31:20 | Quelsaruk | i don't have my computer overclocked... |
| 13:31:55 | Hes | Then I upgraded the video card to a slightly newer (but not brand new & hot & cool) 3D card and it started hanging again, it was actually caused by the video card overheating because it was installed next to the TV card |
| 13:33:14 | Hes | so that there was little space next to the GPU&fan... I replaced the PCI cards so that quarter&half-height ethernet & USB2 cards were next to the video card, now it works nicely again (better air flow). |
| 13:33:18 | Quelsaruk | anyway... has anyone an idea of why the pc hangs when i mount the jukebox? |
| 13:33:21 | Hes | &%$#@ PC hardware 8-) |
| 13:36:11 | Zagor | Hes: I replaced my gpu fan with a monster 400g heatsink. i love the silence. |
| 13:36:29 | Zagor | Quelsaruk: sorry, no idea. |
| 13:36:51 | Hes | My fan isn't very noisy, I have too many fast disks & the dual CPUs already, so I don't hear it under them |
| 13:37:18 | Hes | I would love silence, I hate the noise when mastering choir recordings |
| 13:37:31 | Zagor | ok. i only have a (very quiet) cpu fan left now, so the pc is nearly silent. very nice. |
| 13:38:21 | Hes | my laptop is getting pretty noisy too, the IBM disk makes a bad noise |
| 13:38:30 | Quelsaruk | Zagor: i have two cpu fans quite noisy, but i turn on speakers, play some heavy metal, and no prob. :) |
| 13:38:39 | Zagor | haha |
| 13:38:45 | Hes | that is one alternative approach 8-) |
| 13:41:18 | Quelsaruk | my overheating problem is that... dual processor computer with not too good refrigeration. :( In winter it's ok, i only have to open the window, but on summer... nowadays we are about 30ºC and the computer start hanging... i fear *real* summer :( |
| 13:41:33 | Hes | I have too much stuff in the box, disks & cards, hard to fit in good heat sinks, and the disks produce loads of heat. Got a couple 10Krpm disks striped (good for audio processing performance, cut & pastes of large tracks make them scream) |
| 13:42:22 | Zagor | Quelsaruk: do you have a dual processor machine too? |
| 13:42:28 | Quelsaruk | yups |
| 13:42:35 | Hes | Did the linux mounting ever work for you? |
| 13:42:37 | Hes | without hangs? |
| 13:42:39 | Zagor | ok. |
| 13:43:04 | Quelsaruk | it worked fine, until yesterday :) |
| 13:43:19 | Quelsaruk | Zagor: who has another dual processor machine? |
| 13:43:25 | * | Hes . |
| 13:43:34 | Hes | So what changed yesterday? |
| 13:43:50 | Quelsaruk | hes... that's what i want to find out :) |
| 13:44:16 | Quelsaruk | maybe chaos gods are playing with me.. |
| 13:44:19 | Quelsaruk | dunno |
| 13:44:32 | Hes | No kernel upgrade? new modules / hardware which would cause new modules to be loaded? |
| 13:44:39 | Hes | or modules being loaded in d |
| 13:44:44 | Hes | ... in different order? |
| 13:44:50 | Quelsaruk | no |
| 13:45:06 | Quelsaruk | it's all the same |
| 13:45:08 | Hes | strange... |
| 13:45:53 | Quelsaruk | well.... i disabled eth1. now i don't need that intranet anymore. |
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| 14:28:19 | Stevie[FP] | morning |
| 14:28:20 | * | Stevie[FP] is back from [g0n3] [gone 13hrs 5mins 48secs] [KS] |
| 14:28:53 | Stevie[FP] | fsup guys |
| 14:29:30 | Stevie[FP] | -f |
| 14:29:51 | Quelsaruk | afternoon Stevie[FP] ;) |
| 14:29:58 | Stevie[FP] | hehe |
| 14:30:01 | Stevie[FP] | 08:11:05 |
| 14:30:05 | Stevie[FP] | not here |
| 14:30:21 | Stevie[FP] | I seem to be the odd one out here, though |
| 14:30:27 | Stevie[FP] | so many people from france |
| 14:30:31 | Quelsaruk | france? |
| 14:30:35 | Quelsaruk | not really |
| 14:30:35 | Stevie[FP] | yeah |
| 14:30:37 | Stevie[FP] | BoD |
| 14:30:42 | Stevie[FP] | uhm, who else |
| 14:30:46 | Quelsaruk | german, swedish and even a spanish guy :) |
| 14:30:49 | Stevie[FP] | yeah |
| 14:31:07 | Stevie[FP] | and here I am, on the other side of the world ;) |
| 14:31:23 | Stevie[FP] | so you think it's an SMP issue? |
| 14:31:37 | Quelsaruk | umm |
| 14:35:37 | Quelsaruk | maybe |
| 14:35:37 | Quelsaruk | before i could use it |
| 14:35:37 | Stevie[FP] | did you try booting your kernel nosmp? |
| 14:35:37 | Quelsaruk | not now. |
| 14:35:37 | Quelsaruk | :( |
| 14:35:37 | Stevie[FP] | not yet? |
| 14:35:37 | Stevie[FP] | or you can't do it right now? |
| 14:35:37 | Quelsaruk | before... 1 month ago i had no problems, i was able to mount the jukebox. so i didn't try to boot a nosmp kernel. And noadays, i haven't tested. |
| 14:35:37 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Stevie[FP] |
| 14:35:37 | Stevie[FP] | ok |
| 14:35:37 | Stevie[FP] | do other programs crash? |
| 14:36:33 | Quelsaruk | linux is crashing a lot these days. But it's an overheating issue :( |
| 14:37:13 | Quelsaruk | i have to reboot |
| 14:37:16 | Quelsaruk | cu later |
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| 16:25:52 | Stevie[FP] | wb |
| 16:26:05 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 16:28:39 | Quelsaruk | great, i've reduced my cpus' temp by 15ºC |
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| 16:34:59 | Stevie[FP] | that's a rather significant amount |
| 16:35:07 | Stevie[FP] | perhaps you should move to the North Pole |
| 16:35:15 | Stevie[FP] | that'll definitely help with your cooling problems |
| 16:35:18 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 16:35:46 | Quelsaruk | now i only have 51ºC on each cpu |
| 16:36:39 | Stevie[FP] | not too shabby |
| 16:36:53 | Quelsaruk | shabby? |
| 16:36:57 | Radd | Hello all, can anyone tell me why the daily builds don't include the FM Radio code? Just curious. |
| 16:37:13 | Stevie[FP] | no idea |
| 16:37:19 | Quelsaruk | umm |
| 16:37:20 | Quelsaruk | it should |
| 16:37:34 | Quelsaruk | i mean, daily builds are made with cvs code |
| 16:37:44 | Quelsaruk | try last daily build |
| 16:37:47 | Quelsaruk | or even better |
| 16:37:47 | Stevie[FP] | somenoe else was having that problem |
| 16:37:50 | Quelsaruk | try bleeding edge |
| 16:38:12 | Quelsaruk | Stevie[FP]: but that's impossible. |
| 16:38:38 | Radd | Nope, not there. Tried 0503-0506. Bleeding edge has it, not daily builds. Stevie[FP]->It was me, Norrin was taken when I signed on today. |
| 16:38:38 | Stevie[FP] | that didn't stop him from having the problem |
| 16:38:39 | Stevie[FP] | ;) |
| 16:38:47 | Stevie[FP] | oh |
| 16:38:51 | Radd | It was yesterday and I was chatting with you. |
| 16:39:13 | Quelsaruk | ummm |
| 16:39:53 | Quelsaruk | http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily/changes-20030504.html |
| 16:40:21 | Quelsaruk | this daily build has FM |
| 16:40:52 | Radd | Yep, read all about the changes but the FM Radio option isn't there. At least not the daily build file itself even though the description says it does. |
| 16:41:30 | Radd | You would also think if 0504 had it, 0506 would but not there either. |
| 16:41:43 | Radd | I'll download bleeding edge until daily builds are updated. |
| 16:42:34 | Quelsaruk | how strange.. |
| 16:42:42 | Stevie[FP] | I no longer remember who I've asked this |
| 16:42:47 | Stevie[FP] | Radd: have you checked out the menutest? |
| 16:43:29 | Radd | Not yet, where's it at again? |
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| 16:44:13 | Stevie[FP] | i presume you'll need the FM version, since you're in search of the FM Radio support |
| 16:44:20 | Stevie[FP] | http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/rockbox/menutest4-fm.ajz |
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| 16:44:32 | Quelsaruk | Stevie[FP]: you're quite intelligent ;) |
| 16:44:54 | Stevie[FP] | ;) |
| 16:45:58 | Radd | I've downloaded it, I'll try it and get back to you. You guys at Rockbox are making awesome progress. |
| 16:46:05 | Stevie[FP] | ok |
| 16:46:27 | Stevie[FP] | menutest4 was created from the 5-02 daily build |
| 16:46:38 | Radd | Need to go, I'll be up later. |
| 16:46:39 | Stevie[FP] | just so ya know |
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| 16:49:11 | Quelsaruk | hey! |
| 16:49:15 | Quelsaruk | it's true... |
| 16:49:25 | Quelsaruk | daily builds don't have latest changes... |
| 16:49:28 | Quelsaruk | how strange |
| 16:51:37 | Stevie[FP] | so he's not insane |
| 16:51:53 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 16:52:01 | Quelsaruk | i first thought he was insane :P |
| 16:52:02 | Stevie[FP] | (^: |
| 16:55:01 | Quelsaruk | i have to make some concrete. cu later :) |
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| 17:28:32 | * | Stevie[FP] yawns |
| 17:31:59 | * | Stevie[FP] pokes all you idle people |
| 17:32:51 | webmind | hmm? |
| 17:33:03 | Stevie[FP] | omg, a living being |
| 17:33:09 | webmind | where ?? |
| 17:33:23 | Stevie[FP] | well, in theory anyway |
| 17:33:55 | Stevie[FP] | what's up? |
| 17:35:26 | webmind | uhm |
| 17:35:41 | webmind | sugar bread, plp, and i really want a certain feat in rockbox |
| 17:35:56 | Stevie[FP] | do tell |
| 17:36:28 | webmind | multiple hd support + copy/move function |
| 17:37:04 | Stevie[FP] | copy/move I can see |
| 17:37:08 | Stevie[FP] | but multiple HD? |
| 17:37:23 | Stevie[FP] | I don't think that's possible with the hardware we have |
| 17:37:36 | Stevie[FP] | why would you need more than 20gb anyway? |
| 17:38:06 | webmind | why not.. a plain ata bus should be capable of 2 hd's right ? |
| 17:38:53 | webmind | it's not that i want more.. already ordered a 40gb disk for it.. and i can switch with my current.. it's more that i ant to be able to empty my CF cards on my jukebox |
| 17:38:53 | Hes | It should be possible, would just require an adapter cable for the second disk... |
| 17:39:02 | webmind | Hes, which is no problem |
| 17:39:09 | Hes | I'd very much like to plug in a compactflash card and copy my digital camera photos to the hard disk. |
| 17:39:17 | webmind | Hes, i can do hardware.. i'm just a crappy coder :) |
| 17:39:34 | Hes | I've replaced the disk... would be easy to connect another disk while the box is open |
| 17:39:56 | webmind | Hes, which is the case with me |
| 17:40:06 | Stevie[FP] | I'm not up to learning the operation of an ATA driver |
| 17:40:36 | Stevie[FP] | sorry. |
| 17:40:39 | webmind | Stevie[FP], it shouldn't be that hard for the person who coded the support for the 1st disk |
| 17:40:41 | Hes | but more trickier to craft a cool, durable CF adapter to the case |
| 17:40:49 | Hes | the ATA driver isn't very complicated |
| 17:41:00 | Stevie[FP] | webmind: but that wasn't me, so I really can't help |
| 17:41:18 | Stevie[FP] | did you guys see the latest menutest? |
| 17:41:50 | webmind | nope |
| 17:41:59 | Stevie[FP] | fm or recorder? |
| 17:42:08 | * | webmind has aplayer |
| 17:42:16 | Stevie[FP] | yuck |
| 17:42:18 | webmind | Hes, i dont use the casing |
| 17:42:30 | webmind | so a plain CF<->IDE adapter works fine |
| 17:44:02 | Hes | webmind: whoa, not using it as portable device? |
| 17:44:11 | webmind | yes i am |
| 17:44:16 | webmind | just withouth the casing |
| 17:44:27 | * | Stevie[FP] blinks |
| 17:44:44 | webmind | http://web.expr42.net/rpics/index.plp?id=7 <−− see |
| 17:45:06 | Stevie[FP] | why? |
| 17:45:19 | webmind | (and yes i have broken one hd lready by dropping it :) |
| 17:45:37 | webmind | Stevie[FP], smaller.. and i had plan to fix a different casing.. but first plan for that failed |
| 17:45:54 | webmind | and well.. works fine |
| 17:46:03 | webmind | tested use of alkaline batts aswell |
| 17:46:07 | Hes | Hehe. |
| 17:46:11 | Stevie[FP] | that's not good |
| 17:46:21 | Stevie[FP] | they'll run at a significantly higher voltage |
| 17:46:31 | webmind | Stevie[FP], they work fine |
| 17:46:37 | webmind | no problem, no overheating |
| 17:47:03 | webmind | it's most likely only 1v over spec |
| 17:47:13 | webmind | which shouldn't be a problem |
| 17:47:46 | Stevie[FP] | mmkay |
| 17:47:57 | webmind | and they last quite a while |
| 17:49:09 | Stevie[FP] | of course, your scheme would fail on the FM |
| 17:49:40 | webmind | why ? |
| 17:50:04 | Stevie[FP] | because it will try to charge your batteries when it's plugged in via USB |
| 17:50:21 | webmind | well |
| 17:50:23 | webmind | uhm |
| 17:50:31 | webmind | same with player i think ? |
| 17:50:34 | Stevie[FP] | no |
| 17:50:42 | webmind | i never ssaid u should use it as a hd aswell |
| 17:50:46 | Stevie[FP] | the player and the Recorder don't charge from USB |
| 17:51:00 | Stevie[FP] | ... it IS a hard drive |
| 17:51:14 | webmind | just quite usefull if ur out of batts and don't have anything else and do wanna listen music |
| 17:51:18 | webmind | Stevie[FP], usb drive |
| 17:51:42 | Stevie[FP] | how the hell else are you going to put mp3s on it? |
| 17:54:05 | webmind | sigh |
| 17:54:13 | webmind | with normal batteries |
| 17:54:18 | webmind | like is said.. |
| 17:54:35 | webmind | good as an temporarly solution |
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| 18:55:05 | GenZai | lo :) |
| 18:56:02 | GenZai | PsycoXul |
| 18:56:07 | Stevie[FP] | sup G |
| 18:56:10 | GenZai | hum |
| 18:56:15 | GenZai | someone can halp me ? |
| 18:56:16 | GenZai | :) |
| 18:56:21 | Stevie[FP] | dunno |
| 18:56:23 | GenZai | what is |
| 18:56:24 | Stevie[FP] | halp you with what? |
| 18:56:43 | GenZai | the input accepted by a studio 20 ? |
| 18:56:50 | Stevie[FP] | what about it? |
| 18:56:54 | GenZai | max and minimum volt an ampere |
| 18:56:58 | * | Stevie[FP] blinks |
| 18:57:02 | Stevie[FP] | no idea, sorry |
| 18:57:30 | GenZai | :) |
| 18:57:40 | GenZai | what is rockbox ?? |
| 18:57:54 | Stevie[FP] | it's a replacement for the program that comes built into the Studio |
| 18:58:00 | GenZai | is it a plugin for archos player ? |
| 18:58:02 | GenZai | huhu oki |
| 18:58:12 | Stevie[FP] | so yes |
| 18:58:13 | GenZai | nice |
| 18:58:18 | Stevie[FP] | it's a "plugin" to some degree |
| 18:58:25 | GenZai | yep k |
| 18:58:25 | Stevie[FP] | changes the menus etc |
| 18:58:37 | GenZai | playing tetris :) |
| 18:59:31 | Stevie[FP] | that only works on the Recorder models |
| 18:59:37 | GenZai | k |
| 18:59:37 | Stevie[FP] | the Studio and Player can't do that |
| 18:59:42 | GenZai | some Im fucked up |
| 18:59:47 | Stevie[FP] | because the screen is too small |
| 18:59:54 | GenZai | jiuhu |
| 18:59:57 | Stevie[FP] | and not the right kind |
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| 19:00:01 | Stevie[FP] | but everything else works abouti t |
| 19:00:07 | GenZai | ok |
| 19:00:09 | GenZai | so you don't |
| 19:00:13 | GenZai | know |
| 19:00:24 | Stevie[FP] | I have an FM Recorder |
| 19:00:30 | Stevie[FP] | so I don't know all that much about the Player |
| 19:00:37 | GenZai | huhu |
| 19:00:44 | GenZai | ok |
| 19:00:44 | Stevie[FP] | I do know that I'm hungry! |
| 19:00:46 | Stevie[FP] | bbl, food |
| 19:00:48 | * | Stevie[FP] is away [food] [KS-MsgLog Off] |
| 19:00:51 | GenZai | héhé |
| 19:00:53 | GenZai | hf :) |
| 19:00:56 | Stevie[FP] | l8r :) |
| 19:07:07 | | Nick quel|out is now known as quelsaruk (swordmaste@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 19:07:18 | quelsaruk | i'm back |
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| 19:08:43 | quelsaruk | afternoon Bagder :) |
| 19:09:04 | quelsaruk | btw, did you like that graphic alternative for the yes/no settings? |
| 19:09:10 | Bagder | g'day |
| 19:09:39 | quelsaruk | g'day? |
| 19:10:08 | Bagder | aussie kind of talk you know |
| 19:10:30 | * | quelsaruk thinks these swedish are crazy |
| 19:10:45 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 19:10:46 | Bagder | yes, I did like that faked screenshot for the yes no thing you showed me |
| 19:10:59 | quelsaruk | ummm |
| 19:11:19 | quelsaruk | i mean the 'real' icons you saw on the sim this morning |
| 19:11:38 | Bagder | the shuffle one? |
| 19:11:41 | quelsaruk | yups |
| 19:11:45 | Bagder | yes I like that |
| 19:12:00 | Bagder | but perhaps it could be a check mark |
| 19:12:36 | quelsaruk | my first thought was that |
| 19:12:52 | quelsaruk | as my siemens s55 has that check mark icon for a yes/no question |
| 19:12:54 | quelsaruk | but... |
| 19:13:08 | quelsaruk | its hard to create a small icon like that |
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| 19:13:58 | Bagder | ok |
| 19:14:23 | Bagder | it is still nice to see it in the list like this |
| 19:15:00 | quelsaruk | i don't want to make an icon bigger than 6x8 |
| 19:15:23 | Bagder | sounds wise |
| 19:16:14 | quelsaruk | behind this crazy mind, a wise man is hidden ;) |
| 19:17:36 | Bagder | maybe we should put together a picture gallery of rockbox contributors, to get a face to the names ;-) |
| 19:18:29 | quelsaruk | hehe |
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| 19:18:46 | _aLF | hi |
| 19:18:56 | Bagder | hi |
| 19:19:44 | #>> | "seen" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 19:20:08 | quelsaruk | ummm |
| 19:20:12 | quelsaruk | interesting function |
| 19:20:14 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 19:20:23 | #>> | "calc 2*2" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 19:20:29 | Bagder | asch |
| 19:20:56 | #>> | "has a few hidden skills" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 19:21:11 | webmind | heh |
| 19:21:47 | quelsaruk | i will sacrifice a goat this night to find out all his skills |
| 19:22:19 | webmind | poor goat |
| 19:22:55 | >>> | "help convert" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 19:23:05 | >>> | "convert 2 miles" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 19:23:12 | #>> | "convert 2 miles" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 19:23:22 | Bagder | veeeery useful ;-) |
| 19:23:50 | webmind | can it do curency aswell ? |
| 19:23:52 | quelsaruk | a mile, mautic mile is 1 minute of a meridian arc |
| 19:24:08 | quelsaruk | i had to study that in astronomy :) |
| 19:24:33 | Bagder | you can relax now, we have logbot to take care of it |
| 19:25:03 | quelsaruk | i liked astronomy |
| 19:25:50 | quelsaruk | i still don't know why i had to study a star to know the time in Ho'okipa |
| 19:25:59 | quelsaruk | but it was interesting :) |
| 19:26:09 | * | webmind never had astronomy |
| 19:26:21 | Bagder | webmind: it can, but zagor prolly hasn't set up the currency fetch |
| 19:26:37 | webmind | k |
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| 19:47:37 | quelsaruk | Bagder: i've made a check mark, using a 7x8 icon... |
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| 19:53:46 | quelsaruk | Bagder: check your mail for the icon :) |
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| 20:08:59 | * | Stevie[FP] is back from [food] [gone 1hr 8mins 11secs] [KS] |
| 20:09:36 | Stevie[FP] | that's nothing |
| 20:09:41 | * | Stevie[FP] makes a check mark with a pencil |
| 20:09:42 | quelsaruk | nothing? |
| 20:10:04 | quelsaruk | grrrr |
| 20:10:14 | Stevie[FP] | lol |
| 20:11:30 | Stevie[FP] | :P |
| 20:11:37 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 20:14:27 | * | Stevie[FP] yawns |
| 20:15:10 | quelsaruk | time to go home |
| 20:15:20 | quelsaruk | Real Madrid vs Juventus |
| 20:15:29 | quelsaruk | we will win :) |
| 20:15:42 | quelsaruk | Soccer time!!! |
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| 21:50:53 | Stevie[FP] | wb norrin |
| 21:51:07 | Norrin | Thanks, menu test 4 is pretty cool. |
| 21:51:38 | Norrin | Takes some getting use to after doing it all the old way. |
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| 22:04:50 | Stevie[FP] | hehe |
| 22:05:01 | Stevie[FP] | it's not complete, several settings are still edited the old way |
| 22:06:04 | Stevie[FP] | and I had to make some modifications I'm not at all proud of to solve the cursor problem (erasing the old cursor when going into edit mode) |
| 22:06:24 | Stevie[FP] | but I tried to make it complete enough for people to get an idea of how I envisioni t |
| 22:06:48 | Norrin | Anybody ever figure out why the daily builds still don't have the FM Radio option yet even though the CVS supposedly does? |
| 22:07:05 | Stevie[FP] | not yet |
| 22:07:14 | Stevie[FP] | and we probably won't until Zag or Linus show up |
| 22:07:24 | Norrin | Pretty neat, would you make that an option selectable within the normal interface? |
| 22:07:33 | Stevie[FP] | mh |
| 22:07:34 | Norrin | Concerning the menus that is? |
| 22:08:00 | Stevie[FP] | Anything is possible |
| 22:08:21 | Stevie[FP] | why? |
| 22:09:05 | Norrin | Just curious, would be under system settings, display, menu selection - old way, new way. |
| 22:09:14 | Norrin | Give people the option to choose. |
| 22:10:22 | Stevie[FP] | I can do just about anything given enough CPU power and disk space |
| 22:10:33 | Stevie[FP] | you ever done any rockbox programming? |
| 22:11:54 | Stevie[FP] | the diff to turn daily build 5-02 into menutest4 is over 70kb |
| 22:12:59 | Stevie[FP] | I need to make an emulator |
| 22:13:08 | Stevie[FP] | our simulator is nice, but... |
| 22:13:10 | Norrin | Nope, haven't messed with it. I just enjoy not running Archos firmware. |
| 22:13:21 | Stevie[FP] | haha |
| 22:13:25 | Stevie[FP] | I hear that |
| 22:13:35 | Stevie[FP] | My birthday was the 25th |
| 22:13:39 | Stevie[FP] | my dad got me an FM recorder |
| 22:14:21 | Stevie[FP] | I had only been using it a few hours before I experienced severe display corruption with the id3 tag displayer |
| 22:14:31 | Stevie[FP] | and it was only a day before I managed to crash it completely |
| 22:15:10 | Stevie[FP] | at that point I started googling for hacked firmware |
| 22:17:51 | * | Stevie[FP] tries to solve this bug |
| 22:21:53 | Norrin | Yep, really like what Rockbox has done. Had a Studio 20, now I have an FM Recorder too. Both running Rockbox. |
| 22:22:00 | Stevie[FP] | hehe |
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| 22:30:02 | Norrin | I'll try and check back later to see if Linus or Zagor shows up. |
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