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#rockbox log for 2003-05-06

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08:23:31Zagorwtf?? "Host not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)"
08:23:37Zagorwtf?? "Host not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)"
08:23:57Bagderits an only domain
08:23:59Zagorright, they renamed to freenode. /me silly
08:24:10Bagdertoo early to type
08:28:45BagderZagor: I have an idea
08:29:08Bagderwe should try to have a "patch spring cleaning" session for Rockbox
08:29:33Bagderorganized to deal with old patches, to apply, to close, to catch up
08:29:51Zagornot a bad idea
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08:31:14BagderI'm not sure on the details, but I feel a need to shorten our list
08:32:18adi|homedamn you bagder.. 30 seconds after i commit my comment on the "stop refusing ...." i see your comment at the same time :)
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08:34:06dwihnoHowdy ho
08:34:15Bagdermorning dwihno boy
08:34:26Zagorhi dwihno. any news from the testing grounds?
08:36:29dwihnoNothing new :-/ Didn't hang (is that good or bad? ^_^)
08:37:28dwihnoI have a multipart question
08:37:47dwihnoa) if a hard disk makes a "clunking" sound, what's wrong? the heads banging against the wall?
08:38:05dwihnob) is it possible to fix the above and retreive the data?
08:38:18Zagora) some disks clunk as part of normal operation
08:38:53Zagoruh, you need to describe the error more
08:42:55dwihnoWell, the HD controller reports a disk, but gives no access whatsoever
08:43:17Zagor2.5" ?
08:43:57dwihnoexternal usb2
08:44:51dwihnoEvery time a read is attempted, the disk clunks lots of times.
08:45:00Zagordisassemble it and put it in the computer on a proper ide connection and see what you can get out of it
08:45:45dwihnoit happens even if it is not connected
08:48:30dwihno(when it has power)
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08:54:02dwihnoenlighten me :)
08:54:58Zagorno can do. a clunk doesn't say much, i'm afraid.
08:55:29dwihnoDid you listen to the sound?
08:55:43dwihnoThat's what happens even if the disk is not attached to the computer
08:56:24adi|homeZagor what kind of usb2.0 card are you using?
08:56:55Bagdera belkin one
08:57:01BagderI have the same
08:57:02Zagor"USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 01)"
08:57:15adi|homei can't get my machine to even see my card...
08:57:24adi|homewhere did you see that info listed under?
08:57:58adi|home00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 11)
08:58:00Zagorneat, it contains both an ehci and ohci root hub
08:58:04adi|homethats the only one i see...
08:58:12Zagornope, that's the one from your motherboard
08:58:44adi|homei checked the spec that i dl'd off the asus website for my mother board.. and i didn't see any jumpers or anything to turn it off..
08:58:50adi|homeand ive tried switching pci slots
08:58:51adi|homeno go
08:58:57adi|homeany other ideas?>
08:59:18Zagorwhat model usb card do you have?
08:59:40dwihno95% uses the NEC stuff afaik
08:59:51adi|homeBelkin F5U220
08:59:54adi|home5 port
08:59:54Bagderand that's generally good
09:00:00Bagdernec is fine 2.0
09:00:55adi|homeit was intended for my fathers machine.. so i didn't look for a linux tag with it..
09:01:09adi|homebut then he bought anothero ne.. and i was stuck with this one.. with not reciept.
09:02:46Bagderadi|home: what kernel version?
09:03:30dwihnoYou DID apply the USB2 patch?
09:03:37dwihnoIt's a requirement, methinks
09:03:40Zagoranyone know a program what can draw dependency graphs, including recursive ones?
09:03:47Bagder2.4.20 does 2.0 built-in
09:03:50Zagor2.4.20 inclues usb2 already
09:04:40dwihnoIt does? Whoa, Nelly! :)
09:15:40adi|homeokay.. when i do an install of linux (rh specifically) i get a module-info file in /boot
09:15:53adi|homebut when i do a kernel build.. that file is nowhere to be foound...
09:15:56adi|homeam i missing somthing?
09:16:49Zagorwhat does it contain?
09:17:02Zagori don't see what you need it for
09:17:08dwihnoIs ALSA a part of the standard kernel yet?
09:17:20adi|homelooks like just a list of module name info details...
09:17:22Zagordwihno: i don't think so
09:18:08dwihnoALSA rules! :D
09:18:11dwihnoYay for ALSA
09:18:19dwihnoAnd salsa, starka såsen etc.
09:18:41BagderALSA is in 2.5
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10:56:12Zagordwihno: so did you actually do anything with it yesterday that would normally make it hang?
10:56:39dwihnoZagor: Not really... Although I've found a quite effective way. Turn the pitch up a bit and go rollerskating :D
10:57:04Zagorpitch up?
10:57:47Quelsarukdwihno: seems like if you love that nasty bug :)
10:58:15dwihnoZagor: Yes. On+up/down :-)
10:58:27dwihnoIt empties the buffer more quickly
10:58:41dwihnoI listen to music at 108% sometimes.
10:58:50dwihnoProdigy beats go totally mental! :D
10:58:56dwihnoPerfect for agressive sporting.
10:59:28Quelsarukdwihno: listen to sonata arctica, or even rage.
10:59:41QuelsarukThose are perfect
11:00:36dwihnoJoddla med Siw is also cool. Especially "Svärmor tog täcket".
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12:15:49BagderI'm going home
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13:11:41dwihnoZagor: Got a report for you
13:11:50dwihnoZagor: disk poweroff disabled
13:12:27dwihnoZagor: When I walked, I got 3 hangs. I could navigate the interface freely, the timer stopped, but everything worked until next disk read (kaboom!)
13:16:58dwihnoWant me to run some extra special lots-of-debug-messages build?
13:18:10Zagori haven't made any yet
13:18:37dwihnoI'll gladly run such a build. Would be neat to squash the bug once and for all.
13:19:59Quelsaruki have a little problem with my jukebox
13:20:27Quelsarukeverytime i plug it to the computer and try to mount the device my pc hangs :(
13:21:00Quelsaruki can hear a little 'tlcack!' coming from the hd, like if it couldn't spin up
13:21:25Quelsarukbut i can run rockbox and play files and do whatever i want...
13:21:42Quelsarukeverything except mounting the drive on the computer
13:24:04Quelsarukand linux
13:24:11Quelsarukall in one :)
13:24:36Zagorare you telling me your entire linux box hangs when you type "mount /mnt/archos" ?
13:25:22Quelsaruk.... are you gonna kill me if i say so?
13:25:23HesMy SMP linux boxes hang almost always when I plug in the archos.
13:25:48ZagorHes: the entire box? not just the mount?
13:25:58HesEntire box, hard hang.
13:26:14HesI think it's SMP related.
13:26:23Zagorcould be
13:26:30ZagorQuelsaruk: which kernel are you using?
13:26:53Quelsaruklet me remeber...
13:26:55HesIt's better if I do the plugin on an idle box which has just been rebooted.
13:27:10Quelsarukcould it be something like ??
13:27:11Heswith no other USB using modules loaded (USB audio or something)
13:27:13ZagorQuelsaruk: run "uname -a" to find out
13:27:52Hesand I've had this since last summer... tried up to 2.4.19-rc1.
13:28:32Quelsarukzagor... i'm now on win2k because *don't ask me why* nowadays it's more stable than my linux system. :((
13:28:58Zagorsounds bad
13:28:59Quelsarukyesterday my whole box hanged twice. And i was doing nothing.
13:29:19HesBad hardware possibly, bad connection or overheating somewhere?
13:30:17Quelsaruki must buy a gasoline can and show this computer what's *real* fire.....
13:30:55HesMy home box started doing hard hangs before christmas... it was only slightly overclocked (450 to 500 MHz P2 dual CPU) but dropping back to 450 fixed it. It had been working just fine, overclocked, for a couple years.
13:31:20Quelsaruki don't have my computer overclocked...
13:31:55HesThen I upgraded the video card to a slightly newer (but not brand new & hot & cool) 3D card and it started hanging again, it was actually caused by the video card overheating because it was installed next to the TV card
13:33:14Hesso that there was little space next to the GPU&fan... I replaced the PCI cards so that quarter&half-height ethernet & USB2 cards were next to the video card, now it works nicely again (better air flow).
13:33:18Quelsarukanyway... has anyone an idea of why the pc hangs when i mount the jukebox?
13:33:21Hes&%$#@ PC hardware 8-)
13:36:11ZagorHes: I replaced my gpu fan with a monster 400g heatsink. i love the silence.
13:36:29ZagorQuelsaruk: sorry, no idea.
13:36:51HesMy fan isn't very noisy, I have too many fast disks & the dual CPUs already, so I don't hear it under them
13:37:18HesI would love silence, I hate the noise when mastering choir recordings
13:37:31Zagorok. i only have a (very quiet) cpu fan left now, so the pc is nearly silent. very nice.
13:38:21Hesmy laptop is getting pretty noisy too, the IBM disk makes a bad noise
13:38:30QuelsarukZagor: i have two cpu fans quite noisy, but i turn on speakers, play some heavy metal, and no prob. :)
13:38:45Hesthat is one alternative approach 8-)
13:41:18Quelsarukmy overheating problem is that... dual processor computer with not too good refrigeration. :( In winter it's ok, i only have to open the window, but on summer... nowadays we are about 30ºC and the computer start hanging... i fear *real* summer :(
13:41:33HesI have too much stuff in the box, disks & cards, hard to fit in good heat sinks, and the disks produce loads of heat. Got a couple 10Krpm disks striped (good for audio processing performance, cut & pastes of large tracks make them scream)
13:42:22ZagorQuelsaruk: do you have a dual processor machine too?
13:42:35HesDid the linux mounting ever work for you?
13:42:37Heswithout hangs?
13:43:04Quelsarukit worked fine, until yesterday :)
13:43:19QuelsarukZagor: who has another dual processor machine?
13:43:25*Hes .
13:43:34HesSo what changed yesterday?
13:43:50Quelsarukhes... that's what i want to find out :)
13:44:16Quelsarukmaybe chaos gods are playing with me..
13:44:32HesNo kernel upgrade? new modules / hardware which would cause new modules to be loaded?
13:44:39Hesor modules being loaded in d
13:44:44Hes... in different order?
13:45:06Quelsarukit's all the same
13:45:53Quelsarukwell.... i disabled eth1. now i don't need that intranet anymore.
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14:28:20*Stevie[FP] is back from [g0n3] [gone 13hrs 5mins 48secs] [KS]
14:28:53Stevie[FP]fsup guys
14:29:51Quelsarukafternoon Stevie[FP] ;)
14:30:05Stevie[FP]not here
14:30:21Stevie[FP]I seem to be the odd one out here, though
14:30:27Stevie[FP]so many people from france
14:30:35Quelsaruknot really
14:30:42Stevie[FP]uhm, who else
14:30:46Quelsarukgerman, swedish and even a spanish guy :)
14:31:07Stevie[FP]and here I am, on the other side of the world ;)
14:31:23Stevie[FP]so you think it's an SMP issue?
14:35:37Quelsarukbefore i could use it
14:35:37Stevie[FP]did you try booting your kernel nosmp?
14:35:37Quelsaruknot now.
14:35:37Stevie[FP]not yet?
14:35:37Stevie[FP]or you can't do it right now?
14:35:37Quelsarukbefore... 1 month ago i had no problems, i was able to mount the jukebox. so i didn't try to boot a nosmp kernel. And noadays, i haven't tested.
14:35:37DBUGEnqueued KICK Stevie[FP]
14:35:37Stevie[FP]do other programs crash?
14:36:33Quelsaruklinux is crashing a lot these days. But it's an overheating issue :(
14:37:13Quelsaruki have to reboot
14:37:16Quelsarukcu later
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16:28:39Quelsarukgreat, i've reduced my cpus' temp by 15ºC
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16:34:59Stevie[FP]that's a rather significant amount
16:35:07Stevie[FP]perhaps you should move to the North Pole
16:35:15Stevie[FP]that'll definitely help with your cooling problems
16:35:46Quelsaruknow i only have 51ºC on each cpu
16:36:39Stevie[FP]not too shabby
16:36:57RaddHello all, can anyone tell me why the daily builds don't include the FM Radio code? Just curious.
16:37:13Stevie[FP]no idea
16:37:20Quelsarukit should
16:37:34Quelsaruki mean, daily builds are made with cvs code
16:37:44Quelsaruktry last daily build
16:37:47Quelsarukor even better
16:37:47Stevie[FP]somenoe else was having that problem
16:37:50Quelsaruktry bleeding edge
16:38:12QuelsarukStevie[FP]: but that's impossible.
16:38:38RaddNope, not there. Tried 0503-0506. Bleeding edge has it, not daily builds. Stevie[FP]->It was me, Norrin was taken when I signed on today.
16:38:38Stevie[FP]that didn't stop him from having the problem
16:38:51RaddIt was yesterday and I was chatting with you.
16:40:21Quelsarukthis daily build has FM
16:40:52RaddYep, read all about the changes but the FM Radio option isn't there. At least not the daily build file itself even though the description says it does.
16:41:30RaddYou would also think if 0504 had it, 0506 would but not there either.
16:41:43RaddI'll download bleeding edge until daily builds are updated.
16:42:34Quelsarukhow strange..
16:42:42Stevie[FP]I no longer remember who I've asked this
16:42:47Stevie[FP]Radd: have you checked out the menutest?
16:43:29RaddNot yet, where's it at again?
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16:44:13Stevie[FP]i presume you'll need the FM version, since you're in search of the FM Radio support
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16:44:32QuelsarukStevie[FP]: you're quite intelligent ;)
16:45:58RaddI've downloaded it, I'll try it and get back to you. You guys at Rockbox are making awesome progress.
16:46:27Stevie[FP]menutest4 was created from the 5-02 daily build
16:46:38RaddNeed to go, I'll be up later.
16:46:39Stevie[FP]just so ya know
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16:49:15Quelsarukit's true...
16:49:25Quelsarukdaily builds don't have latest changes...
16:49:28Quelsarukhow strange
16:51:37Stevie[FP]so he's not insane
16:52:01Quelsaruki first thought he was insane :P
16:55:01Quelsaruki have to make some concrete. cu later :)
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17:28:32*Stevie[FP] yawns
17:31:59*Stevie[FP] pokes all you idle people
17:33:03Stevie[FP]omg, a living being
17:33:09webmindwhere ??
17:33:23Stevie[FP]well, in theory anyway
17:33:55Stevie[FP]what's up?
17:35:41webmindsugar bread, plp, and i really want a certain feat in rockbox
17:35:56Stevie[FP]do tell
17:36:28webmindmultiple hd support + copy/move function
17:37:04Stevie[FP]copy/move I can see
17:37:08Stevie[FP]but multiple HD?
17:37:23Stevie[FP]I don't think that's possible with the hardware we have
17:37:36Stevie[FP]why would you need more than 20gb anyway?
17:38:06webmindwhy not.. a plain ata bus should be capable of 2 hd's right ?
17:38:53webmindit's not that i want more.. already ordered a 40gb disk for it.. and i can switch with my current.. it's more that i ant to be able to empty my CF cards on my jukebox
17:38:53HesIt should be possible, would just require an adapter cable for the second disk...
17:39:02webmindHes, which is no problem
17:39:09HesI'd very much like to plug in a compactflash card and copy my digital camera photos to the hard disk.
17:39:17webmindHes, i can do hardware.. i'm just a crappy coder :)
17:39:34HesI've replaced the disk... would be easy to connect another disk while the box is open
17:39:56webmindHes, which is the case with me
17:40:06Stevie[FP]I'm not up to learning the operation of an ATA driver
17:40:39webmindStevie[FP], it shouldn't be that hard for the person who coded the support for the 1st disk
17:40:41Hesbut more trickier to craft a cool, durable CF adapter to the case
17:40:49Hesthe ATA driver isn't very complicated
17:41:00Stevie[FP]webmind: but that wasn't me, so I really can't help
17:41:18Stevie[FP]did you guys see the latest menutest?
17:41:59Stevie[FP]fm or recorder?
17:42:08*webmind has aplayer
17:42:18webmindHes, i dont use the casing
17:42:30webmindso a plain CF<->IDE adapter works fine
17:44:02Heswebmind: whoa, not using it as portable device?
17:44:11webmindyes i am
17:44:16webmindjust withouth the casing
17:44:27*Stevie[FP] blinks
17:44:44webmind <−− see
17:45:19webmind(and yes i have broken one hd lready by dropping it :)
17:45:37webmindStevie[FP], smaller.. and i had plan to fix a different casing.. but first plan for that failed
17:45:54webmindand well.. works fine
17:46:03webmindtested use of alkaline batts aswell
17:46:11Stevie[FP]that's not good
17:46:21Stevie[FP]they'll run at a significantly higher voltage
17:46:31webmindStevie[FP], they work fine
17:46:37webmindno problem, no overheating
17:47:03webmindit's most likely only 1v over spec
17:47:13webmindwhich shouldn't be a problem
17:47:57webmindand they last quite a while
17:49:09Stevie[FP]of course, your scheme would fail on the FM
17:49:40webmindwhy ?
17:50:04Stevie[FP]because it will try to charge your batteries when it's plugged in via USB
17:50:31webmindsame with player i think ?
17:50:42webmindi never ssaid u should use it as a hd aswell
17:50:46Stevie[FP]the player and the Recorder don't charge from USB
17:51:00Stevie[FP]... it IS a hard drive
17:51:14webmindjust quite usefull if ur out of batts and don't have anything else and do wanna listen music
17:51:18webmindStevie[FP], usb drive
17:51:42Stevie[FP]how the hell else are you going to put mp3s on it?
17:54:13webmindwith normal batteries
17:54:18webmindlike is said..
17:54:35webmindgood as an temporarly solution
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18:55:05GenZailo :)
18:56:07Stevie[FP]sup G
18:56:15GenZaisomeone can halp me ?
18:56:23GenZaiwhat is
18:56:24Stevie[FP]halp you with what?
18:56:43GenZaithe input accepted by a studio 20 ?
18:56:50Stevie[FP]what about it?
18:56:54GenZaimax and minimum volt an ampere
18:56:58*Stevie[FP] blinks
18:57:02Stevie[FP]no idea, sorry
18:57:40GenZaiwhat is rockbox ??
18:57:54Stevie[FP]it's a replacement for the program that comes built into the Studio
18:58:00GenZaiis it a plugin for archos player ?
18:58:02GenZaihuhu oki
18:58:12Stevie[FP]so yes
18:58:18Stevie[FP]it's a "plugin" to some degree
18:58:25GenZaiyep k
18:58:25Stevie[FP]changes the menus etc
18:58:37GenZaiplaying tetris :)
18:59:31Stevie[FP]that only works on the Recorder models
18:59:37Stevie[FP]the Studio and Player can't do that
18:59:42GenZaisome Im fucked up
18:59:47Stevie[FP]because the screen is too small
18:59:57Stevie[FP]and not the right kind
19:00:01Stevie[FP]but everything else works abouti t
19:00:09GenZaiso you don't
19:00:24Stevie[FP]I have an FM Recorder
19:00:30Stevie[FP]so I don't know all that much about the Player
19:00:44Stevie[FP]I do know that I'm hungry!
19:00:46Stevie[FP]bbl, food
19:00:48*Stevie[FP] is away [food] [KS-MsgLog Off]
19:00:53GenZaihf :)
19:00:56Stevie[FP]l8r :)
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19:07:18quelsaruki'm back
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19:08:43quelsarukafternoon Bagder :)
19:09:04quelsarukbtw, did you like that graphic alternative for the yes/no settings?
19:10:08Bagderaussie kind of talk you know
19:10:30*quelsaruk thinks these swedish are crazy
19:10:46Bagderyes, I did like that faked screenshot for the yes no thing you showed me
19:11:19quelsaruki mean the 'real' icons you saw on the sim this morning
19:11:38Bagderthe shuffle one?
19:11:45Bagderyes I like that
19:12:00Bagderbut perhaps it could be a check mark
19:12:36quelsarukmy first thought was that
19:12:52quelsarukas my siemens s55 has that check mark icon for a yes/no question
19:13:08quelsarukits hard to create a small icon like that
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19:14:23Bagderit is still nice to see it in the list like this
19:15:00quelsaruki don't want to make an icon bigger than 6x8
19:15:23Bagdersounds wise
19:16:14quelsarukbehind this crazy mind, a wise man is hidden ;)
19:17:36Bagdermaybe we should put together a picture gallery of rockbox contributors, to get a face to the names ;-)
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19:20:12quelsarukinteresting function
19:20:23#>>"calc 2*2" by Bagder (
19:20:56#>>"has a few hidden skills" by Bagder (
19:21:47quelsaruki will sacrifice a goat this night to find out all his skills
19:22:19webmindpoor goat
19:22:55>>>"help convert" by Bagder (
19:23:05>>>"convert 2 miles" by Bagder (
19:23:12#>>"convert 2 miles" by Bagder (
19:23:22Bagderveeeery useful ;-)
19:23:50webmindcan it do curency aswell ?
19:23:52quelsaruka mile, mautic mile is 1 minute of a meridian arc
19:24:08quelsaruki had to study that in astronomy :)
19:24:33Bagderyou can relax now, we have logbot to take care of it
19:25:03quelsaruki liked astronomy
19:25:50quelsaruki still don't know why i had to study a star to know the time in Ho'okipa
19:25:59quelsarukbut it was interesting :)
19:26:09*webmind never had astronomy
19:26:21Bagderwebmind: it can, but zagor prolly hasn't set up the currency fetch
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19:47:37quelsarukBagder: i've made a check mark, using a 7x8 icon...
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19:53:46quelsarukBagder: check your mail for the icon :)
20:08:59*Stevie[FP] is back from [food] [gone 1hr 8mins 11secs] [KS]
20:09:36Stevie[FP]that's nothing
20:09:41*Stevie[FP] makes a check mark with a pencil
20:14:27*Stevie[FP] yawns
20:15:10quelsaruktime to go home
20:15:20quelsarukReal Madrid vs Juventus
20:15:29quelsarukwe will win :)
20:15:42quelsarukSoccer time!!!
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21:50:53Stevie[FP]wb norrin
21:51:07NorrinThanks, menu test 4 is pretty cool.
21:51:38NorrinTakes some getting use to after doing it all the old way.
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22:05:01Stevie[FP]it's not complete, several settings are still edited the old way
22:06:04Stevie[FP]and I had to make some modifications I'm not at all proud of to solve the cursor problem (erasing the old cursor when going into edit mode)
22:06:24Stevie[FP]but I tried to make it complete enough for people to get an idea of how I envisioni t
22:06:48NorrinAnybody ever figure out why the daily builds still don't have the FM Radio option yet even though the CVS supposedly does?
22:07:05Stevie[FP]not yet
22:07:14Stevie[FP]and we probably won't until Zag or Linus show up
22:07:24NorrinPretty neat, would you make that an option selectable within the normal interface?
22:07:34NorrinConcerning the menus that is?
22:08:00Stevie[FP]Anything is possible
22:09:05NorrinJust curious, would be under system settings, display, menu selection - old way, new way.
22:09:14NorrinGive people the option to choose.
22:10:22Stevie[FP]I can do just about anything given enough CPU power and disk space
22:10:33Stevie[FP]you ever done any rockbox programming?
22:11:54Stevie[FP]the diff to turn daily build 5-02 into menutest4 is over 70kb
22:12:59Stevie[FP]I need to make an emulator
22:13:08Stevie[FP]our simulator is nice, but...
22:13:10NorrinNope, haven't messed with it. I just enjoy not running Archos firmware.
22:13:25Stevie[FP]I hear that
22:13:35Stevie[FP]My birthday was the 25th
22:13:39Stevie[FP]my dad got me an FM recorder
22:14:21Stevie[FP]I had only been using it a few hours before I experienced severe display corruption with the id3 tag displayer
22:14:31Stevie[FP]and it was only a day before I managed to crash it completely
22:15:10Stevie[FP]at that point I started googling for hacked firmware
22:17:51*Stevie[FP] tries to solve this bug
22:21:53NorrinYep, really like what Rockbox has done. Had a Studio 20, now I have an FM Recorder too. Both running Rockbox.
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22:30:02NorrinI'll try and check back later to see if Linus or Zagor shows up.
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