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| 01:16:01 | ken0 | dev guys ? |
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| 01:25:17 | midknight2k3 | hello |
| 01:25:22 | LinusN | hi |
| 01:26:58 | midknight2k3 | i don't understand why the 'max files in directory' is now a setting |
| 01:27:06 | LinusN | ? |
| 01:27:06 | midknight2k3 | wh would want to lower it? |
| 01:27:29 | LinusN | to save memory for mp3 buffering |
| 01:27:38 | LinusN | but it is really for those who want to raise it |
| 01:27:41 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 01:28:01 | midknight2k3 | does this somehow relate to the message: "Dir buffer is full!" |
| 01:28:04 | LinusN | people have been complaining about 400 being too few |
| 01:28:17 | LinusN | exactly that message |
| 01:28:29 | midknight2k3 | but it doesnt seem to impair anything |
| 01:28:36 | midknight2k3 | it still shows them all doesn't it? |
| 01:28:48 | LinusN | raising it shrinks the mp3 buffer |
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| 01:28:57 | LinusN | no it doesnät show them all |
| 01:29:25 | midknight2k3 | is it just me or is that ' an ä? |
| 01:29:31 | LinusN | typo |
| 01:29:51 | midknight2k3 | heh whatever |
| 01:30:06 | * | LinusN just came home from a party |
| 01:30:17 | midknight2k3 | oh really |
| 01:30:20 | midknight2k3 | what time is it? |
| 01:30:23 | midknight2k3 | 1:30? |
| 01:30:33 | LinusN | so my typing may be sub-standard |
| 01:30:39 | LinusN | 1:30 yes |
| 01:30:51 | midknight2k3 | heheh its only 4:30 here |
| 01:30:58 | midknight2k3 | PM that is |
| 01:31:21 | LinusN | have you tried the latest daily? |
| 01:31:44 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 01:31:51 | LinusN | i included the HD fix from yesterday |
| 01:31:53 | midknight2k3 | but it seems they are no longer being built |
| 01:31:57 | LinusN | oh |
| 01:32:04 | midknight2k3 | all i see as most recent is may 8th |
| 01:32:23 | LinusN | ouch |
| 01:32:38 | midknight2k3 | did you add in the menu setting? |
| 01:32:44 | LinusN | no |
| 01:33:01 | midknight2k3 | is that hard? |
| 01:33:46 | LinusN | no, just cumbersome |
| 01:35:03 | midknight2k3 | oh by the way |
| 01:35:21 | midknight2k3 | i thought the Player models could only use what was in their character set |
| 01:35:26 | midknight2k3 | is that right? |
| 01:35:34 | LinusN | yes and no |
| 01:35:51 | LinusN | they have a few user-defined characters |
| 01:36:06 | LinusN | 4 on the older models and 8 on the newer |
| 01:36:15 | midknight2k3 | aha |
| 01:36:28 | midknight2k3 | so the progress 'cup' is using one of them? |
| 01:38:05 | LinusN | yes, and the progress bar uses all off them |
| 01:39:53 | midknight2k3 | i see that you have the MOD file for the players that flashed the LED |
| 01:39:59 | midknight2k3 | do you have one for recorders? |
| 01:40:12 | LinusN | no |
| 01:40:23 | midknight2k3 | players were the only one back in the day eh? |
| 01:40:41 | LinusN | we developed the player code first and then adapted it for the recorder |
| 01:41:04 | LinusN | we only had players back then, yes |
| 01:41:13 | midknight2k3 | could you adapt the red led for the recorder *prays* ;) |
| 01:41:31 | LinusN | why on earth would we do that? |
| 01:41:45 | LinusN | (and by the way, it is exactly the same for recorder) |
| 01:42:01 | midknight2k3 | i want to see this 'fun for the whole family' |
| 01:42:10 | midknight2k3 | you know it really could be cool |
| 01:42:27 | LinusN | i suggest you don't try it |
| 01:42:33 | midknight2k3 | uh oh why? |
| 01:42:37 | LinusN | it may lock your hard drive |
| 01:42:52 | midknight2k3 | oh ouch forget it |
| 01:42:58 | midknight2k3 | wish i could see that though |
| 01:43:18 | LinusN | my player locked several times a day during the first weeks of development |
| 01:43:34 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 01:43:43 | LinusN | but i had patched the Linux USB driver to unlock it automatically |
| 01:43:59 | midknight2k3 | looks like you used to put out about a firmware a month |
| 01:45:35 | midknight2k3 | one thing on the features page is now invalid] |
| 01:45:49 | midknight2k3 | "Screensaver style demos (Recorder)" |
| 01:45:58 | LinusN | only temporarily |
| 01:46:13 | midknight2k3 | you're bringing them back? |
| 01:46:41 | LinusN | of course, when we make room for them in memory (200k limit) |
| 01:46:57 | midknight2k3 | when will that be, 2.3 right? |
| 01:47:05 | LinusN | guess so |
| 01:47:21 | midknight2k3 | ar you still averaging about a firmware a month? |
| 01:47:32 | midknight2k3 | for example is 2.1 near ready or just beginnign? |
| 01:47:56 | LinusN | we have no real plans for 2.1 |
| 01:48:08 | LinusN | when it comes to what will be included |
| 01:48:11 | midknight2k3 | just an 'update' wiht some features and fixes |
| 01:48:36 | LinusN | yup |
| 01:48:46 | midknight2k3 | soon me hopes |
| 01:49:03 | LinusN | we want to release often, but something always comes up |
| 01:49:26 | * | midknight2k3 likes new releases |
| 01:50:16 | midknight2k3 | the dailybuilds spoil it though :\ |
| 01:50:27 | midknight2k3 | i get a new one every wekk for one reason or other |
| 01:50:37 | midknight2k3 | then by the new version i already have it all |
| 01:50:40 | midknight2k3 | like with 2.0 |
| 01:55:47 | midknight2k3 | linus do you think the archos could ever display scrollng lyrics? |
| 01:56:25 | midknight2k3 | (recorder) |
| 01:56:44 | LinusN | it is technically possible |
| 01:57:32 | midknight2k3 | it would take a lot of code wouldnt it |
| 01:57:43 | midknight2k3 | its not even a question |
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| 01:58:49 | LinusN | it would take some code yes, but i don't think it is that much |
| 01:59:48 | midknight2k3 | oh did i ever tell you |
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| 02:00:01 | midknight2k3 | that defragment-recording panic went away |
| 02:00:06 | midknight2k3 | when i installed a newer rockbox |
| 02:00:21 | LinusN | you had that? |
| 02:00:34 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 02:00:48 | LinusN | i wish i had it |
| 02:00:54 | midknight2k3 | had what? |
| 02:00:59 | LinusN | the panic |
| 02:01:02 | midknight2k3 | why? |
| 02:01:09 | LinusN | i want to find the bug |
| 02:01:22 | midknight2k3 | i'm not sure but somehow it left after a minor update |
| 02:04:00 | midknight2k3 | and i think i have an idea as to how you could include an imitation-graphic eq |
| 02:04:56 | midknight2k3 | for example, pushing up the 1st bar one click could add on two dB of bass |
| 02:05:03 | midknight2k3 | the second, add one DB of bass |
| 02:05:09 | midknight2k3 | third, one DB of treble |
| 02:05:16 | midknight2k3 | fourth, two DB of treble |
| 02:05:19 | midknight2k3 | or something like that |
| 02:05:29 | midknight2k3 | if you could do it more subtle but it's just an idea |
| 02:11:28 | LinusN | i don't get it |
| 02:12:08 | midknight2k3 | you know, for vertical bars with a selector you can move to each and use up/down to change them |
| 02:12:18 | midknight2k3 | they're all at 0 |
| 02:12:29 | midknight2k3 | hence bass and treble is at 0 |
| 02:12:45 | midknight2k3 | if you push up bar 1 then bass goes up to 2db |
| 02:12:53 | midknight2k3 | just push it up one nothc |
| 02:13:00 | midknight2k3 | two notches, 4db |
| 02:13:02 | midknight2k3 | get it? |
| 02:13:06 | midknight2k3 | same with treble |
| 02:13:19 | midknight2k3 | the two inner bars however, one click = one db |
| 02:17:34 | LinusN | why two bars for each? |
| 02:17:57 | midknight2k3 | you know like the khz and hz bars |
| 02:18:01 | midknight2k3 | its a simulation |
| 02:18:08 | midknight2k3 | perhaps three |
| 02:18:12 | midknight2k3 | you can make it up |
| 02:19:59 | LinusN | hmmm, i'm not sure it will work very good |
| 02:20:43 | midknight2k3 | well one better idea |
| 02:21:04 | midknight2k3 | is to play with your own and simulate it with the bass/treble configurables on rokobx |
| 02:21:07 | midknight2k3 | *rockbox |
| 02:21:18 | midknight2k3 | yeah i doubt it would work well |
| 02:21:28 | midknight2k3 | a nice alternative would be presets |
| 02:21:37 | midknight2k3 | easy too |
| 02:21:52 | midknight2k3 | just, for rock put bass at like 9db and treble at 7 or something |
| 02:22:02 | midknight2k3 | then for dance, bass at 5 and treble at 5 |
| 02:22:08 | midknight2k3 | you know what i mean |
| 02:23:01 | LinusN | .cfg files are made for that |
| 02:23:14 | midknight2k3 | but.. but... |
| 02:23:22 | midknight2k3 | i dunno |
| 02:23:39 | midknight2k3 | could you make a cfg file that just changes sound settings? |
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| 02:24:42 | LinusN | yes of course |
| 02:24:55 | LinusN | by hand |
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| 02:28:41 | BoD[] | helllllllowoww |
| 02:29:02 | LinusN | hola |
| 02:29:25 | BoD[] | whatsupppduuuude |
| 02:30:40 | BoD[] | hrm .. i mean hi :) |
| 02:36:11 | midknight2k3 | lol |
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| 02:54:13 | lao22t | why are there game pictures on the main site when the faq reads that only character modifications are capable? |
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| 02:55:43 | LinusN | lao22t: there are several models |
| 02:55:59 | LinusN | the Player/Studio have only character cells |
| 02:56:06 | lao22t | oh ok |
| 02:56:11 | LinusN | the Recorders have bitmap LCD |
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| 03:01:33 | lao22t | if soundfonts were located in software, might it be feasible to play MIDIs? |
| 03:01:55 | LinusN | no |
| 03:02:08 | LinusN | we can only play mp3 files, nothing else |
| 03:02:30 | LinusN | MIDI files require polyphonic PCM playback |
| 03:23:14 | BoD[] | this is depressing :) |
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| 03:24:13 | BoD[] | but anyway i go to go |
| 03:24:17 | BoD[] | see you all bye |
| 03:24:19 | lao22t | was it difficult to begin writing rockbox ? |
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| 03:24:39 | LinusN | lao22t: what do you mean? |
| 03:25:47 | lao22t | well what information did you need to begin with and was it available freely? like codec chip codeset |
| 03:26:16 | LinusN | datasheets for the components are frelly available |
| 03:26:36 | LinusN | finding out the LCD manufacturer was a lot of guesswork |
| 03:26:59 | LinusN | lots of reverse engineering of the hardware with multimeter |
| 03:27:14 | lao22t | eww sounds painful |
| 03:27:21 | LinusN | cracking the scrambling algorithm was hard work |
| 03:27:43 | lao22t | <:o |
| 03:28:15 | lao22t | based on the player and recorder, do you think the multimedia model is significantly more complex? |
| 03:28:25 | LinusN | but when that was done, we could disassemble the original firmware to find out how the hardware works |
| 03:28:51 | LinusN | multimedia is way more complex, and the specs for the DSP are not public |
| 03:56:04 | adi|home | i have 2 words for you... |
| 03:56:08 | adi|home | suck my monkey ass... |
| 03:56:18 | adi|home | least.. that would be 2 words if i ran the universe |
| 03:56:19 | LinusN | i have two for you |
| 03:56:42 | LinusN | fix that damn sokoban level loading! |
| 03:56:57 | * | adi|home ducks out to finish sokoban :) |
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| 06:36:22 | RBoxFanBoy | hello |
| 06:40:24 | adi|home | howdy |
| 06:40:54 | RBoxFanBoy | I don't have demos on my FM recorder |
| 06:41:05 | RBoxFanBoy | is that normal? |
| 06:50:59 | hardeep | RBoxFanBoy: demos ave been disabled due to file size limitations |
| 06:53:32 | RBoxFanBoy | oh ic ic |
| 06:53:35 | RBoxFanBoy | =( |
| 06:53:39 | RBoxFanBoy | oh wells |
| 06:53:54 | RBoxFanBoy | does this mean no new games? |
| 06:53:57 | RBoxFanBoy | =0 |
| 06:57:49 | hardeep | RBoxFanBoy: for now, there's some work being done to free up some memory as well as adding support for loadable modules |
| 06:59:12 | RBoxFanBoy | oh ic ic |
| 06:59:22 | RBoxFanBoy | well you guys are doing an excellent job =) |
| 06:59:36 | RBoxFanBoy | I love my FM Recorder because of you guys |
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| 07:00:12 | RBoxFanBoy | I brag to people that my mp3 player can play games |
| 07:00:14 | RBoxFanBoy | lol |
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| 07:12:16 | adi|home | as soon as i finish sokoban level loading we will have demos back in |
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| 08:42:13 | ollitrop | hi is there a rockbox version for the Archos Multimedia Jukebox?? |
| 08:44:42 | ollitrop | any1 awake? |
| 08:51:45 | adi|home | we're awake |
| 08:51:59 | ollitrop | hi |
| 08:52:02 | ollitrop | hi is there a rockbox version for the Archos Multimedia Jukebox?? |
| 08:52:05 | adi|home | but we generally look for ppl to actually read the provided FAQ and NODO docs before just blindly asking questions. |
| 08:52:18 | ollitrop | i read the whole faq on the website |
| 08:52:28 | adi|home | you know.. like the message says when you first enter the room |
| 08:52:39 | ollitrop | unfortunately i didnt see any reference to the multimedia jukebox |
| 08:52:50 | ollitrop | thats why i asked in here |
| 08:53:15 | ollitrop | This version is for Archos Jukebox 5000, 6000 and all Studio models. |
| 08:53:26 | ollitrop | this is a copy of the text straight from the download page |
| 08:53:35 | ollitrop | nothing refers to the MM jukebox |
| 08:53:36 | adi|home | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/nodo.html#7 |
| 08:53:39 | adi|home | look harder |
| 08:54:13 | adi|home | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#23 |
| 08:54:46 | adi|home | not trying to be a jerk.. but being the maintainer of the FAQ.. answering the same quesitons over and over gets tiresome |
| 08:56:57 | ollitrop | well thanks assfuck! i hope you feel better, Mr. I'm so smart and i talk down to people on a computer because in real life they could kick my ass. Go ahead hide behind your PC. If I missed that part then it was my bad but you dont have to talk to people that way you fucking pissant. And dont apoligize now, faqs are a bitch to maintain, dont tell people to come here if you arent willing to put up with stupid questions, ASSHOLE JERK FUCK! |
| 08:56:59 | ollitrop | And lastly: "The only stupid question is the one you do not ask" |
| 08:57:02 | ollitrop | bye bye |
| 08:57:34 | ollitrop | try to be nice, jerk fuck |
| 08:57:40 | adi|home | way to influence ppl and win friends... |
| 08:57:55 | ollitrop | well im right arent i? |
| 08:58:09 | ollitrop | you get asked stupid questions all the time |
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| 08:58:27 | ollitrop | if you arent prepared to deal with them, dont direct them towards yourself |
| 08:58:39 | ollitrop | ie, dont tell people to come to this room for help |
| 08:59:00 | Mode | "#rockbox +o adiamas " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 08:59:03 | ollitrop | I didnt read the faq hard enough, so i ended up asking what seemed like a dumb question to you. |
| 08:59:12 | Kick | (#rockbox ollitrop :adiamas) by adiamas!~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-178.nyc.ny.metconnect.net |
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| 09:00:09 | adiamas | how very very sad. |
| 09:00:37 | adiamas | btw lads.. i tossed him for being majorly obscene... not for being a tool :) |
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| 19:56:41 | midknight2k3 | wellhello! |
| 19:58:29 | ken0_ | dev folks around? |
| 19:58:33 | ken0_ | got a question about resume |
| 19:58:52 | midknight2k3 | i might be able to answer |
| 19:59:24 | midknight2k3 | what is it? |
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| 20:02:48 | midknight2k3 | hello? |
| 20:02:53 | ken0_ | yeah sorry |
| 20:03:30 | ken0_ | was wondering why there isn't a resume option for "resume after X seconds" |
| 20:04:07 | midknight2k3 | like if you don't hit play or any other key, just resume in ten seconds |
| 20:04:08 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 20:04:13 | midknight2k3 | for example |
| 20:04:18 | ken0_ | just "ask once"/"ask"/"yes"/"no".. would be useful to have it auto resume after X seconds |
| 20:04:20 | ken0_ | exactly |
| 20:04:24 | ken0_ | or 5.. |
| 20:04:42 | midknight2k3 | i don't know.. you could shove it in as a feature request |
| 20:05:00 | Kinslayer | that sounds qutie easy to do... im trying to see if i can add bidi spuport :> |
| 20:05:16 | midknight2k3 | say those last two wrods again |
| 20:05:17 | ken0_ | you see, the main reason I don't let it auto resume is cause sometimes I wanna adjust the volume or avoid playing a certain song when I'm connecting it to speakers around people. with the 5 seconds resume delay I would enjoy both auto resume and the ability to avoid certain situations |
| 20:05:30 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 20:05:43 | midknight2k3 | avoid certain situations\ |
| 20:05:50 | ken0_ | yep hehe |
| 20:05:57 | midknight2k3 | like what may i ask |
| 20:06:01 | midknight2k3 | hehehe |
| 20:06:51 | ken0_ | well umm.... |
| 20:07:29 | midknight2k3 | ..just some things right |
| 20:07:33 | ken0_ | yep :) |
| 20:07:55 | midknight2k3 | i daren't ask more |
| 20:08:19 | ken0_ | heh |
| 20:08:34 | midknight2k3 | it's a good idea |
| 20:08:43 | midknight2k3 | im surprised they havent thought of that |
| 20:09:08 | midknight2k3 | I just wonder what will be of rockbox in one year |
| 20:09:51 | Jet8810 | hey |
| 20:09:57 | midknight2k3 | divx movie support? customizable menus? customizable customizations of menus? |
| 20:10:21 | ken0_ | tatto machine/coffee maker would be cool |
| 20:10:21 | ken0_ | heeh |
| 20:10:22 | midknight2k3 | oh hey it's the ipod guy! |
| 20:10:25 | Jet8810 | hahaha |
| 20:10:26 | Jet8810 | ;) |
| 20:10:31 | Jet8810 | not anymore midnight, it was a short phase |
| 20:10:55 | ken0_ | today someone asked me if they should get an ipod/rio somthing 20gb or archos recorder 20gb (for the usb2). what a silly question |
| 20:11:02 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 20:11:04 | midknight2k3 | hey! |
| 20:11:09 | midknight2k3 | rioriot by any chance? |
| 20:11:15 | ken0_ | yeah I think so |
| 20:11:23 | midknight2k3 | archos recorder difinitely |
| 20:11:30 | midknight2k3 | i have one plus a rioriot |
| 20:11:48 | ken0_ | the thing doesnt even function as a hard drive.. (gets a drive letter for free data storage) |
| 20:11:49 | midknight2k3 | rioriot isnt all that good - it could be but sonicblue has no effort in firmware for it |
| 20:12:15 | midknight2k3 | if sonicblue tried thye could make it easily |
| 20:12:21 | midknight2k3 | recorder is the best |
| 20:12:38 | midknight2k3 | jet - if i didnt talk you out of it would you have gotten an ipod? |
| 20:12:46 | ken0_ | you just can't beat open source firmware.. |
| 20:12:47 | Jet8810 | yea... |
| 20:12:51 | Jet8810 | rioriot is that huge one, right? |
| 20:13:00 | midknight2k3 | hey it's not that big |
| 20:13:03 | Jet8810 | midnight, it is very possible, but I doubt it |
| 20:13:04 | midknight2k3 | and it's really slick |
| 20:13:09 | Jet8810 | simply due to lack of funds |
| 20:13:20 | Jet8810 | I would spend 3 months saving then realize it was stupid or seomthing |
| 20:13:33 | ken0_ | dont know why other companies don't encourage firmware mods.. gives a real boost to the hype and the community relating to their product |
| 20:13:33 | midknight2k3 | it is stupid or something |
| 20:13:47 | midknight2k3 | archos encouraged rockbox |
| 20:13:58 | midknight2k3 | they wanted to provide it on their jukebox installation cd |
| 20:14:06 | midknight2k3 | and even on the archos retail |
| 20:14:24 | Jet8810 | I saw a rioriot the other day |
| 20:14:28 | Jet8810 | it really is pretty big though |
| 20:14:39 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 20:14:43 | ken0_ | they DID???? |
| 20:14:44 | midknight2k3 | it's still nice though |
| 20:14:45 | Jet8810 | cant fit in a pocket unless its a really big cargo one |
| 20:14:47 | midknight2k3 | that huge screen |
| 20:14:51 | Jet8810 | yea, the screen is really nice though |
| 20:14:55 | midknight2k3 | yes ken |
| 20:14:58 | midknight2k3 | they wanted to |
| 20:15:11 | midknight2k3 | rockbox said yes but they just wanted a bit of information like on the MAS chip |
| 20:15:20 | midknight2k3 | archos never got back to em |
| 20:15:21 | ken0_ | I contacted them personally and they appear to be very much against it |
| 20:15:27 | ken0_ | they didn't even help with the dev. !!!! |
| 20:15:32 | midknight2k3 | that's their plan dont you get it? |
| 20:15:43 | midknight2k3 | they want to hate it if they can't use it! |
| 20:16:00 | midknight2k3 | but once they get it, theyd be like "this is a surpreme contribution to archos and it's...." |
| 20:17:57 | ken0_ | of course, but I believe that even without supplying it as alternative firmware on installation CDs or mirror it on their site (both of which, btw, would be a terrible headache to them because of support/warrenty issues) - even if they just linked to the rockbox site with some explantion about it, they can only gain from it |
| 20:18:11 | ken0_ | I mean, what to they have to lose? |
| 20:20:04 | midknight2k3 | nothing |
| 20:20:17 | midknight2k3 | they have to gain however, customers when they see the feature comparison |
| 20:21:44 | ken0_ | exactly.. it's definitely a competition killer. they get a dev. team to listen to clients and fix/release firmwares accordingly without paying a cent for it! |
| 20:22:02 | midknight2k3 | i know and thats stupid |
| 20:22:13 | midknight2k3 | it sucks that archos isn't supporting them at all |
| 20:22:38 | midknight2k3 | they do it on their own time and they work the bugs out their own way |
| 20:23:21 | ken0_ | they don't need archos anymore. they are way beyond that phase... |
| 20:23:51 | ken0_ | I just dont understand why archos had to have the thing on THEIR site/cd ?? |
| 20:23:52 | ken0_ | can't think of a good reason for it.. |
| 20:23:52 | midknight2k3 | i know heh |
| 20:24:00 | midknight2k3 | they don't |
| 20:24:06 | midknight2k3 | they want to though |
| 20:24:48 | midknight2k3 | just because they feel that because the archos is the second most capable mp3 player in the world they must ignore it's firmware and focus more on the cheaper studio models :\ |
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| 20:26:34 | midknight2k3 | what i cant wait for, is the iriver ihp-100 or ihp-120 |
| 20:27:18 | ken0_ | why? and if archos is 2nd, which is 1st? |
| 20:28:03 | midknight2k3 | ipod |
| 20:28:12 | midknight2k3 | it's a computer without a mouse or a keyboard |
| 20:29:30 | ken0_ | touch screen then? what? |
| 20:29:38 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 20:29:53 | midknight2k3 | it has a screen and a processor and all the functions of a computer, but no mouse or keyboard |
| 20:30:01 | midknight2k3 | it can run linux |
| 20:30:08 | midknight2k3 | but of course it's a hack |
| 20:30:17 | midknight2k3 | ipod doesn't want people to do this at all |
| 20:30:25 | midknight2k3 | ipod=apple |
| 20:30:30 | ken0_ | portable device about the size of the archos? |
| 20:30:35 | ken0_ | ohh.. then I've heard of it |
| 20:30:48 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 20:31:02 | ken0_ | waaay to expensive... I remember choosing the archos over it (man am I glad I did) |
| 20:31:10 | ken0_ | white thingy :) |
| 20:31:17 | midknight2k3 | did you know people used to bring it in to a compusa and download mac os X onto it so they could bring it home? |
| 20:39:01 | Jet8810 | MIDKNIGHT, WHY? |
| 20:39:04 | Jet8810 | err caps off |
| 20:39:48 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 20:39:53 | Jet8810 | how about the one with the armor and castle and crossword? |
| 20:39:55 | Jet8810 | errr |
| 20:39:59 | Jet8810 | <midknight2k3> did you know people used to bring it in to a compusa and download mac os X onto it so they could bring it home? |
| 20:39:59 | midknight2k3 | uh? |
| 20:40:03 | Jet8810 | damn clipborad :) |
| 20:40:11 | midknight2k3 | why? |
| 20:40:16 | midknight2k3 | so they have mac os X free |
| 20:40:26 | midknight2k3 | plus all that other stuff they have installed |
| 20:40:43 | Jet8810 | haha |
| 20:40:46 | Jet8810 | thats hilarious |
| 20:40:46 | midknight2k3 | as a matter of fact the new ipod is almost irresistable |
| 20:40:59 | midknight2k3 | 30GB at the weight of 2 CDS |
| 20:41:02 | midknight2k3 | 6.2 ounces |
| 20:41:04 | Jet8810 | heh... |
| 20:41:07 | midknight2k3 | how the heeezy? |
| 20:41:16 | midknight2k3 | it's .62 inches thick as well |
| 20:41:23 | Jet8810 | need I talk you out of it now? |
| 20:41:23 | midknight2k3 | its sucking me in |
| 20:41:24 | Jet8810 | lol... |
| 20:41:26 | midknight2k3 | YES |
| 20:41:29 | midknight2k3 | do so please |
| 20:41:38 | midknight2k3 | backlit buttons? |
| 20:41:40 | midknight2k3 | oh my god |
| 20:41:43 | Jet8810 | midknight |
| 20:41:43 | midknight2k3 | i need one a them |
| 20:41:48 | Jet8810 | stop for a second |
| 20:41:52 | Jet8810 | first of all, it is not usb mass storage |
| 20:42:01 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 20:42:04 | midknight2k3 | boooo |
| 20:42:04 | Jet8810 | you need to use musicmatch if you have a PC to transfre your music and that is such a pain |
| 20:42:10 | midknight2k3 | oh realy? |
| 20:42:13 | midknight2k3 | cruddu |
| 20:42:14 | Jet8810 | secondly, gotta buy a firewire card (for at least another month anyway) |
| 20:42:23 | Jet8810 | also, no ROCKBOX |
| 20:42:33 | Jet8810 | you wont get to have added features and utilize your device fully |
| 20:42:54 | Jet8810 | you will be stuck with the arrange by artist or album crap interface instead of just like your PC way |
| 20:43:10 | Jet8810 | you cant swap out the batteries for other AA NimHs |
| 20:43:13 | midknight2k3 | GAY |
| 20:43:17 | Jet8810 | and, are you really going to pay $500 for 30gb? |
| 20:43:23 | midknight2k3 | no way |
| 20:43:28 | midknight2k3 | i dont have that much |
| 20:43:29 | Jet8810 | need I say more? |
| 20:43:30 | Jet8810 | :) |
| 20:43:32 | midknight2k3 | nope |
| 20:43:38 | Jet8810 | was that a test? |
| 20:43:39 | Jet8810 | lol |
| 20:44:22 | ken0_ | heh very nice job.. should be an archos salesman |
| 20:44:29 | midknight2k3 | hey you werent here |
| 20:44:32 | midknight2k3 | when i did the same thing |
| 20:46:15 | ken0_ | they definitely should be paying SOMEONE in this chan.. |
| 20:48:26 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 20:48:29 | midknight2k3 | rockbox convincer |
| 20:48:42 | midknight2k3 | programmed not to take 'no' for an answer |
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| 20:52:43 | midknight2k3 | hello! |
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| 20:54:14 | midknight2k3 | hello! |
| 20:54:51 | nelliep | were you saying hello to me? |
| 20:54:58 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 20:55:04 | midknight2k3 | i'm oft ignored |
| 20:55:35 | nelliep | Oh sorry ....not used to anyone talking in here! LOL |
| 20:57:01 | nelliep | See...YOU'VE gone quiet now! |
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| 20:58:42 | midknight2k3 | I have three things to say |
| 20:58:46 | midknight2k3 | Heh, Lol, Ooops |
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| 21:00:23 | _aLF | hi |
| 21:00:34 | midknight2k3 | eee |
| 21:00:36 | nelliep | Ive been trying to think of anew feature tht would be possible to implement |
| 21:00:38 | midknight2k3 | ken0 and ken0_ |
| 21:00:46 | midknight2k3 | like? |
| 21:01:05 | midknight2k3 | there's a lot of them there's just not much time to ask them before we all get killed in the struggle... |
| 21:01:12 | nelliep | Don't know thats what i mean |
| 21:01:42 | midknight2k3 | let me read your mind |
| 21:01:50 | midknight2k3 | you're using javairc arent you? |
| 21:01:52 | nelliep | I was so pleased when they put in the caption backlight thing i requested |
| 21:02:03 | midknight2k3 | heh |
| 21:02:07 | midknight2k3 | an honor it is right? |
| 21:02:09 | nelliep | yeah...sorry :( |
| 21:02:23 | midknight2k3 | why sorry? |
| 21:03:00 | nelliep | well it leaves that unregistered thing on |
| 21:03:10 | midknight2k3 | not for us |
| 21:03:21 | midknight2k3 | we can't see it only you can |
| 21:03:23 | nelliep | oh ok |
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| 21:04:14 | nelliep | you were getting the usb hard drive standby thin the other nite weren't you? |
| 21:04:32 | nelliep | with linus |
| 21:04:32 | midknight2k3 | yeah it was neat |
| 21:04:37 | midknight2k3 | i tested it before anyone else |
| 21:05:08 | nelliep | that's what I mean...it's fun when people are responsive |
| 21:05:25 | midknight2k3 | yeah of course |
| 21:05:26 | nelliep | not like other software development can be |
| 21:06:05 | nelliep | It was rockbox that persuaded me to get the archos |
| 21:06:32 | midknight2k3 | rcorder? |
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| 21:07:06 | nelliep | yes..as you have said ...the only one worth having LOL |
| 21:07:24 | midknight2k3 | it is |
| 21:07:28 | midknight2k3 | player sucks |
| 21:07:37 | midknight2k3 | multimedia doesnt have rockbox but its ok |
| 21:08:12 | nelliep | To be honest I've no real comparison but the font thing seems limited |
| 21:08:37 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 21:08:39 | midknight2k3 | i like atadore |
| 21:08:46 | midknight2k3 | what do you use? |
| 21:09:13 | midknight2k3 | rockbox original? hahaha |
| 21:09:14 | nelliep | On another tack...what do you think of the FAQ? |
| 21:09:41 | midknight2k3 | its' ok i dont really look at it often |
| 21:09:45 | midknight2k3 | what about the font though |
| 21:09:46 | nelliep | standard font |
| 21:09:49 | midknight2k3 | what do you use? |
| 21:09:55 | midknight2k3 | try atadore |
| 21:09:59 | midknight2k3 | its the best |
| 21:10:01 | nelliep | the standard |
| 21:10:07 | midknight2k3 | its small like rockbox but bold and slick |
| 21:10:33 | nelliep | did you download it or is it in the rockbox dir |
| 21:10:49 | midknight2k3 | what version do you have? |
| 21:10:58 | midknight2k3 | if 2.0 then its in the .rockbox |
| 21:11:08 | midknight2k3 | if not you get it from the site |
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| 21:11:21 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 21:11:27 | nelliep | one of the daily builds but unzipped 2.0 |
| 21:11:30 | midknight2k3 | ken0 , ken0_ , ken0__ |
| 21:11:36 | midknight2k3 | it should be there then |
| 21:11:37 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 21:11:41 | Jet8810 | midknight, I use atadore too |
| 21:12:07 | nelliep | Oh well I'll try it out l8er |
| 21:12:32 | ken0__ | hey we need more kenos :) |
| 21:12:38 | ken0__ | they should timeout in a while.. |
| 21:12:41 | nelliep | Has anyone used the travel charger for the car? |
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| 21:14:11 | Jet8810 | yea nelliep |
| 21:14:15 | Jet8810 | I have one, along with the entire car kit |
| 21:15:06 | nelliep | well I have a cassette adapter already...do you think its possible to just get the charger? |
| 21:18:36 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 21:18:40 | Jet8810 | try ebay... |
| 21:18:59 | Jet8810 | if not, the archos uses a standard tip...sure if you got specs for car charger could get one radioshack style |
| 21:20:18 | nelliep | Yeah because I live in Kuwait and getting things out here can be tough |
| 21:21:03 | nelliep | What voltage does it output ...9v? |
| 21:22:28 | Jet8810 | yea 9 volt |
| 21:22:44 | Jet8810 | hmm lemme see what I can find over here in US real quick online... |
| 21:23:11 | nelliep | I'll look aroud ...see what I can find...thanks! |
| 21:23:59 | nelliep | You are lucky in the US...everything is cheaper! |
| 21:24:22 | Jet8810 | haha |
| 21:24:24 | Jet8810 | yea :) |
| 21:24:29 | Jet8810 | have you lived in Kuwait your entir elife? |
| 21:24:49 | nelliep | I bought my archos from the states..cost $99 for shipping and was STILL cheaper than UK! |
| 21:25:00 | Jet8810 | haha |
| 21:25:40 | nelliep | That's why I don't live in the Uk most of the year! LOL |
| 21:26:13 | Jet8810 | heh |
| 21:26:17 | Jet8810 | have you grown up in Kuwait? |
| 21:26:48 | nelliep | I haven't been able to get those 2000Mah batteries yet either |
| 21:27:05 | nelliep | No I'm an expat |
| 21:27:22 | nelliep | I am British |
| 21:28:25 | Jet8810 | cool |
| 21:28:49 | Jet8810 | too much political tension going on between Europe and US right now... |
| 21:28:53 | nelliep | Well it's very hot actually! |
| 21:28:56 | Jet8810 | it truly is sad |
| 21:28:56 | Jet8810 | haha |
| 21:29:43 | nelliep | Yeah but I have a few US and canadian friends no tension there! LOL |
| 21:30:10 | nelliep | They brew the best beer! |
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| 21:31:25 | Jello-Eater | hi |
| 21:31:36 | nelliep | hi |
| 21:31:44 | Jello-Eater | ok i have a archos jukebox studio 10. and no matter how long i recharge it i always get the hd error |
| 21:31:55 | Jello-Eater | i can plug in the usb and access my files and add stuff |
| 21:32:17 | Jello-Eater | i am guessing i need to get a new battery. do you think radio shack would have a replacement ion battery or something |
| 21:32:43 | Jello-Eater | if so do you guys know what make the battery is like brand and type |
| 21:33:04 | nelliep | Well I am not a techie but you can definately get replacement batteries |
| 21:33:32 | nelliep | There is a list in the battery FAQ |
| 21:34:03 | nelliep | i got 1850mah ones |
| 21:34:09 | Jello-Eater | really |
| 21:34:52 | nelliep | Yeah just get Nimah ones |
| 21:35:00 | Jello-Eater | ok |
| 21:35:18 | nelliep | I don't know if that is the cause of your problem tho |
| 21:35:29 | Jello-Eater | i've been told it was it |
| 21:36:04 | nelliep | Well they are really easy to replace |
| 21:36:17 | Jello-Eater | ok what tool do i need to take off the side it seems weird |
| 21:36:25 | nelliep | Bit of a bugger to get the old ones out tho |
| 21:36:35 | nelliep | they are in really tight |
| 21:36:52 | nelliep | I use my thumbnail!! |
| 21:37:20 | Jello-Eater | hehe |
| 21:37:32 | Jello-Eater | what tool should i use for the screws though |
| 21:37:42 | Jello-Eater | looks like a star |
| 21:37:55 | nelliep | Just gently prise it sideways a little bit and then it slides upwards |
| 21:38:07 | Jello-Eater | ok |
| 21:38:17 | nelliep | You don't touch the screws to get at the batteries |
| 21:38:25 | Jello-Eater | really |
| 21:38:31 | Jello-Eater | how do i take out the battery |
| 21:38:43 | nelliep | Could invalidate warranty if you unscrew anything |
| 21:39:13 | Jello-Eater | haha i don't see where the battery comes out though |
| 21:40:10 | nelliep | Well Ive got Jukebox recorder and its got two rounded sides |
| 21:40:21 | Jello-Eater | i have a studio 10 |
| 21:40:42 | nelliep | with rubber bumpers top and bottom |
| 21:41:13 | nelliep | Have you got it with you now |
| 21:41:36 | Jello-Eater | yeah |
| 21:41:40 | Jello-Eater | it's on my lap |
| 21:41:46 | Jello-Eater | i see the rubber stuff |
| 21:42:20 | nelliep | well does it have rounded edges going either side of ot? |
| 21:43:35 | nelliep | 'it' i mean |
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| 21:44:22 | Jello-Eater | heres a picture |
| 21:45:00 | nelliep | I am using the Java thing ...don't know how to get the pic...sorry |
| 21:45:02 | Jello-Eater | yeah rounded |
| 21:45:05 | Jello-Eater | ok |
| 21:45:31 | nelliep | well i am looking on archos site for it |
| 21:45:35 | Jello-Eater | ok |
| 21:46:41 | nelliep | Isn't there a little notch halfway down on the inside? |
| 21:47:00 | nelliep | It looks the same to me |
| 21:48:12 | Jello-Eater | yeah |
| 21:48:30 | nelliep | Just prise the rounded column away from the body slightly then it will lft upwards |
| 21:49:16 | Jello-Eater | like take one of the rubber pieces off? |
| 21:49:34 | nelliep | No ...You can use a little electrical screwdriver with a small head...I just use |
| 21:49:44 | nelliep | my thumbnail |
| 21:50:07 | nelliep | Its on TOP of the rubber isn't it? |
| 21:51:02 | nelliep | The rounded bits are only thin plastic |
| 21:51:20 | Jello-Eater | the very little black screws? |
| 21:51:59 | nelliep | You don't unscrew anything |
| 21:52:02 | Jello-Eater | ok |
| 21:52:14 | Jello-Eater | ok what am i taking off |
| 21:52:30 | Jello-Eater | to access the batteries |
| 21:52:39 | nelliep | just prise the rounded sides away from the main body slightly |
| 21:52:45 | nelliep | yes |
| 21:52:47 | Jello-Eater | ok |
| 21:53:04 | nelliep | They are insaide the rounded sides |
| 21:53:14 | nelliep | Have you done it? |
| 21:53:37 | Jello-Eater | i see the batteries |
| 21:53:40 | Jello-Eater | they are green |
| 21:53:44 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 21:53:48 | Jet8810 | they are easy to switch out |
| 21:53:52 | Jet8810 | just pull off the silver part |
| 21:53:54 | Jet8810 | then one of the rubbers |
| 21:53:55 | nelliep | Good...they are VERY stiff |
| 21:54:03 | Jet8810 | yea, after first time they loosen up |
| 21:54:06 | Jello-Eater | yeah i see that |
| 21:54:20 | nelliep | I didn't need to pull off the rubbers |
| 21:54:38 | Jet8810 | nellie, yea you dont *need* too |
| 21:54:43 | nelliep | I think the rubbers are fixed |
| 21:54:43 | Jet8810 | bu tit makes it easier if you need to take em out |
| 21:54:46 | Jet8810 | no |
| 21:54:58 | Jello-Eater | oh man |
| 21:54:59 | Jello-Eater | thank you |
| 21:55:00 | Jet8810 | they come up a bit |
| 21:55:12 | Jet8810 | np |
| 21:55:14 | Jello-Eater | :) |
| 21:55:29 | Jet8810 | :) |
| 21:55:47 | nelliep | ok fine I just didn't bother I can get them out easy now |
| 21:55:55 | Jet8810 | heh :) |
| 21:56:08 | Jet8810 | yea I have 2100 mahs, so I discovered this when I switched em out |
| 21:56:16 | Jet8810 | and strangely enough the stock green batts got screwed up after this |
| 21:56:26 | nelliep | Jelloeater> Have you got them now? |
| 21:56:32 | Jet8810 | I put the green ones in after using the 2100s for a few months and archos overheated...quickly took them out though |
| 21:57:15 | nelliep | I didn't think much of the standard ones |
| 21:57:25 | Jello-Eater | which ones should i get |
| 21:57:38 | Jello-Eater | Jet8810: i have a studio 10 and i am replacing the batteries |
| 21:57:41 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 21:57:44 | nelliep | Highest capacity possible |
| 21:57:44 | Jet8810 | get the 2100 Mahs |
| 21:57:48 | Jet8810 | highest possible ones AFAIK |
| 21:57:54 | Jello-Eater | can i pick those up at radio shack? |
| 21:57:57 | Jet8810 | if you find higher, get them though...brand doesnt matter AFAIK |
| 21:58:06 | Jet8810 | probably, dunno price though |
| 21:58:16 | nelliep | Yes I agree...didn't know they existed |
| 21:58:18 | Jello-Eater | where did you pick yours up? |
| 21:58:36 | Jet8810 | online |
| 21:58:39 | nelliep | I got mine at a supermarket! |
| 21:58:46 | Jello-Eater | really |
| 21:58:48 | nelliep | only 1850mah tho |
| 21:58:49 | Jet8810 | www.thomas-distributing.com maybe |
| 21:59:00 | Jet8810 | yea, wow strange I remembered that |
| 21:59:09 | Jet8810 | shit they have 2200 mahs now |
| 21:59:18 | Jello-Eater | um. yeah i get the "hd error" but if i plug in the usb i can see and add my files |
| 21:59:23 | Jet8810 | spanish hw is a worksheet right? get those |
| 21:59:28 | Jet8810 | wtf... |
| 21:59:29 | Jet8810 | lol |
| 21:59:29 | Jello-Eater | no matter how much i power up it still doesn't do anything |
| 21:59:30 | nelliep | Photo shops have them too...for cameras |
| 21:59:35 | Jet8810 | http://www.thomas-distributing.com/mh-4aa220.htm get those |
| 21:59:47 | nelliep | make sure they are nimah ones tho |
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| 22:00:10 | Jello-Eater | ok |
| 22:01:03 | Jello-Eater | Jet8810: do you think i have a battery problem? |
| 22:01:09 | nelliep | Remember to give them a full charge before using the archos |
| 22:01:09 | Jet8810 | http://thomas-distributing.com/ipower_2100mah_nimh_batteries.htm these are the ones I have... |
| 22:01:14 | Jet8810 | hmm Jello-eater... |
| 22:01:20 | Jet8810 | try plugging into a wall and turning it on |
| 22:01:23 | Jello-Eater | i have |
| 22:01:26 | Jello-Eater | nada |
| 22:01:27 | Jet8810 | and? |
| 22:01:29 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 22:01:38 | Jet8810 | email the maililng list |
| 22:01:43 | Jet8810 | I am not totally sure... |
| 22:01:47 | Jet8810 | what is the EXACT error? |
| 22:01:52 | Jello-Eater | just says |
| 22:01:58 | Jello-Eater | " HD Error " |
| 22:02:00 | Jello-Eater | that's all |
| 22:02:10 | Jello-Eater | and then shuts off |
| 22:02:16 | Jet8810 | I had something of the sort, and I had to take it back as it was a bad unit, but other people report such a problem and reformatting using PC works too... |
| 22:02:21 | Jet8810 | try reformatting using a PC |
| 22:02:28 | Jet8810 | and if its still under warrantee just send it in |
| 22:02:29 | nelliep | IJelloeater> I have heard of problems even using plugged in IF batteries are not fully charged |
| 22:02:50 | Jello-Eater | i've tried charging for days |
| 22:03:01 | Jet8810 | tried reformatting hard drive while plugged into USB? |
| 22:03:04 | Jello-Eater | when i plug it in the light comes on like it's charging |
| 22:03:08 | Jello-Eater | yeah |
| 22:03:18 | Jello-Eater | and put on rockbox |
| 22:03:19 | Jet8810 | and nothing? |
| 22:03:21 | Jello-Eater | yeah |
| 22:03:29 | Jet8810 | tried it without installing rockbox? |
| 22:03:34 | Jello-Eater | ppl have told me to get new batteries cause mine are probaly messed |
| 22:03:38 | Jello-Eater | yeah |
| 22:03:48 | Jello-Eater | i've tried the old software...the default stuff |
| 22:03:50 | Jet8810 | is the device still under warrantee? |
| 22:04:03 | Jello-Eater | i didn't send in my card though :-/ |
| 22:04:07 | Jello-Eater | would that make a differnce |
| 22:04:17 | Jello-Eater | i bought it august last year |
| 22:04:26 | Jet8810 | yea alright |
| 22:04:29 | Jet8810 | so you have a warrantee |
| 22:04:35 | Jet8810 | call Archos and send it in before you spend cash on batteries |
| 22:04:45 | Jet8810 | if it is their batteries, they will probably replace them too |
| 22:04:50 | Jello-Eater | really |
| 22:04:51 | Jello-Eater | kool |
| 22:04:54 | Jello-Eater | but |
| 22:05:01 | Jello-Eater | i am leaving for san diego on friday |
| 22:05:06 | Jello-Eater | and i wanted my mp3 player to work |
| 22:05:09 | nelliep | well if you get new batteries and try that first then you will at least know for sure |
| 22:05:16 | Jet8810 | yea sure... |
| 22:05:20 | Jet8810 | make sure there is a good return policy |
| 22:05:37 | Jet8810 | Jello, go to radioshack and buy new batteries...if that fixes it then a) say OK and leave it at that or b) send it in when you come back |
| 22:05:50 | nelliep | It's not much cost |
| 22:05:55 | Jello-Eater | yeah that's what i am thinking of doing |
| 22:05:55 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 22:06:02 | Jello-Eater | 20 bucks max i am guessin |
| 22:06:02 | Jet8810 | OK, so go do it :) |
| 22:06:15 | Jello-Eater | thanks much |
| 22:06:27 | nelliep | and BTW for future refernce u can register online at archos site |
| 22:06:29 | Jet8810 | no problem |
| 22:06:32 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 22:06:41 | nelliep | reference I mean |
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| 22:07:19 | Jet8810 | I have a best buy warrantee though :) |
| 22:07:26 | Jet8810 | which is good, but they no longer carry the Archos recorder... |
| 22:07:40 | Jet8810 | woudl probably end up getting the FM one then as it is over the counter exchange...or maybe they can send it in if I so choose |
| 22:08:05 | nelliep | sounds good |
| 22:08:40 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 22:08:41 | nelliep | Thanks for helping with my explanation of battery replacement |
| 22:08:53 | Jet8810 | dont mention it |
| 22:09:17 | nelliep | I don't have the studio so I was worried I was telling him a load of bollocks |
| 22:10:36 | Jet8810 | ahaha |
| 22:10:53 | Jet8810 | I used to have the Studio |
| 22:10:56 | Jet8810 | recorder slaughters it |
| 22:11:56 | nelliep | Glad to hear that...cos its what Ive got |
| 22:12:30 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 22:12:49 | nelliep | I'll have to get some help with this IRC thing too |
| 22:13:10 | nelliep | I'm not keen on this java thing |
| 22:21:05 | Jello|battery-hu | oh whoa |
| 22:21:10 | Jello|battery-hu | i just noticed this |
| 22:21:25 | Jello|battery-hu | is this supposed to be like this...you know the coil that the batteries press against |
| 22:24:14 | nelliep | Well no but i can guess |
| 22:25:00 | Jello|battery-hu | it has a metal bar going through the coil |
| 22:25:04 | Jello|battery-hu | very thin |
| 22:25:13 | Jello|battery-hu | the other coil isn't like that |
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| 22:25:40 | nelliep | I can't say I looked at mine that closely |
| 22:26:29 | nelliep | I did have a problem with my batteries tho that meant the archos kept switching off |
| 22:26:37 | nelliep | that was the contacts |
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| 22:35:23 | datazone | hmm.. going to have to defrag my filesystem pretty soon |
| 22:35:57 | datazone | noticing playing music recently added drains the battery faster than stuff that was put there along time ago |
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| 22:37:40 | BoD[] | hi! |
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| 22:44:15 | yozac | is there really no way to create custom playlists using rockbox? |
| 22:46:10 | yozac | whats the point of a 20gb mp3 player if you can make playlists with it? |
| 22:51:42 | Kinslayer | huh? of course u can make playlists |
| 22:53:32 | BoD[] | you need pc for that |
| 22:54:37 | yozac | but I mean with the rockbox, without a pc? no way? |
| 22:55:07 | BoD[] | hum i'm not sure :) |
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| 23:31:14 | Kinslayer | well, theres an option 'create playlist' on the menu.. never used it before but im sure it works? |
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