00:00:02 | LinusN | which flash version? |
00:00:08 | [IDC]Dragon | 1.28 |
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00:02:51 | LinusN | see it now, strange that i haven't seen it before |
00:03:00 | [IDC]Dragon | When I power it off, the disk goes _on_. Maybe a funny side effect? |
00:03:09 | LinusN | #SERIAL#scan soft = 00000000 |
00:03:09 | LinusN | soft=00000001 |
00:03:10 | LinusN | fin |
00:03:10 | LinusN | file_chk = 0000739C |
00:03:10 | LinusN | calc_chk = 0000739C |
00:03:10 | LinusN | SoftAddress = 09046400 |
00:03:12 | LinusN | SoftSize = 0001B6C4 |
00:03:27 | LinusN | side effect from what? |
00:03:45 | [IDC]Dragon | from the TX idle state=high |
00:04:21 | LinusN | my unit starts up normally |
00:04:42 | LinusN | and it doesn't start when i insert the serial cable |
00:05:26 | LinusN | you must have stronger TX drivers than i have |
00:05:41 | [IDC]Dragon | My cable might not be perfect, it's loosing some chars, too. |
00:05:52 | LinusN | ouch, badness |
00:06:05 | LinusN | i have the same prob though, occasionally |
00:09:42 | [IDC]Dragon | idle unplugged=2.4V, idle plugged=1.9V, idle when operational=2.5V |
00:10:05 | [IDC]Dragon | Looks like a collision when the pins are not yet configured for RS232 |
00:10:29 | LinusN | smokin' !!! |
00:12:08 | [IDC]Dragon | not that bad. I'll look for it later. |
00:12:28 | LinusN | USB polarity fix committed in CVS |
00:12:47 | [IDC]Dragon | You're too quick. |
00:13:09 | LinusN | simple, everything was prepared for it |
00:13:10 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't have the flash tool quite ready yet ;-) |
00:13:36 | LinusN | we really need to be careful |
00:13:43 | [IDC]Dragon | I coudn't hack and chat |
00:13:45 | LinusN | want the FM ROM? |
00:14:05 | [IDC]Dragon | Oh yes, get me everything. |
00:16:44 | LinusN | the fm files are on their way |
00:16:49 | [IDC]Dragon | You didn't like the frequency info any more? |
00:16:59 | LinusN | it is useless |
00:17:21 | LinusN | it turned out that all recorders have the same crystal |
00:17:37 | LinusN | i suspected something else, but the hw info survey proved me wrong |
00:17:59 | matsl | LinusN: hi |
00:18:00 | [IDC]Dragon | So we gained the bytes back which my little code takes. |
00:18:09 | LinusN | yeah :-) |
00:18:23 | LinusN | but i added the ROM save code... |
00:20:57 | [IDC]Dragon | Ah, I see. And right at the top... |
00:20:57 | matsl | The simulators core dump when I try to play. (Just checked out from CVS) Anyone else getting this? |
00:21:18 | [IDC]Dragon | which platform? |
00:21:56 | LinusN | matsl: i get it too |
00:22:22 | matsl | LinusN: ok. so there is a bug to catch. |
00:22:28 | LinusN | i'm on the case |
00:22:40 | matsl | good |
00:23:11 | [IDC]Dragon | I hope I didn't break it. |
00:23:28 | LinusN | it's probably my fault (the 400-file limit fix) |
00:24:36 | matsl | I'm just happy your getting it too. Then it is probably not a problem with the things I'm working with ;-) |
00:25:17 | [IDC]Dragon | Linus, the FM and recorder boot rom are identical. One less to worry about. |
00:25:52 | LinusN | matsl: fixed in cvs |
00:26:12 | matsl | nice. |
00:26:14 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: just like i suspected |
00:26:50 | [IDC]Dragon | Yes. Last test would be an old player. |
00:27:00 | LinusN | you have new player? |
00:27:25 | [IDC]Dragon | no recorder. I meant because of the text only display. |
00:27:40 | LinusN | there are two player versions you know, old and new |
00:28:09 | [IDC]Dragon | A friend has the new, will have access to that. |
00:28:26 | LinusN | give me two minutes and i'll send you both |
00:28:36 | LinusN | i have 2 players |
00:28:39 | matsl | LinusN: bugfix worked here at my end! |
00:28:44 | LinusN | nice |
00:28:53 | [IDC]Dragon | What is it that you haven't? |
00:28:58 | LinusN | time |
00:29:03 | LinusN | money |
00:29:07 | LinusN | a life |
00:29:27 | [IDC]Dragon | come on, you have 2 more kids than I do. |
00:29:54 | LinusN | that's what i'm talking about :-) |
00:30:19 | [IDC]Dragon | Well, it explains the no time issue. |
00:31:56 | LinusN | and the money |
00:33:03 | [IDC]Dragon | Sorry to distract the family talk, what version was your fm? |
00:35:32 | LinusN | ROM files sent |
00:35:52 | LinusN | 1.30j |
00:38:03 | [IDC]Dragon | Got the files. Which versions were those? |
00:38:19 | LinusN | 3.18 and 4.53 |
00:39:23 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, all boot ROMs are the same. |
00:39:46 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll disassemble some deeper into them. |
00:41:57 | [IDC]Dragon | Can you help me a bit with gdb? I can't build it, says: make: *** [start.o] Error 255 |
00:42:18 | LinusN | oops |
00:42:47 | LinusN | give me the entire error output |
00:43:08 | [IDC]Dragon | $ make RECORDER=1 |
00:43:22 | [IDC]Dragon | sh-elf-as -o start.o start.s |
00:43:36 | [IDC]Dragon | make: *** [start.o] Error 255 |
00:43:42 | LinusN | wow |
00:43:54 | LinusN | which version of gcc, and which platform? |
00:44:14 | [IDC]Dragon | cygwin |
00:44:17 | LinusN | oh |
00:44:20 | LinusN | never tried that |
00:44:50 | [IDC]Dragon | gcc wasn't called yet, it's the assembler giving trouble. |
00:44:58 | [IDC]Dragon | Versions I don't know. |
00:45:01 | LinusN | weird, you should get some more errors |
00:45:17 | LinusN | error 255, sounds like a make.exe bug |
00:45:31 | LinusN | try to do it manually |
00:46:17 | PsycoXul | looks like sh-elf-as isn't in your path (or doesn't exist) to me |
00:46:31 | LinusN | PsycoXul: maybe |
00:46:53 | [IDC]Dragon | Is that not used for Rockbox make? |
00:47:04 | LinusN | no |
00:47:20 | [IDC]Dragon | You're right, assembler not found. |
00:47:21 | LinusN | we use the gcc frontend for assembler in rockbox |
00:47:48 | [IDC]Dragon | That works even for startup code? Cool. |
00:47:50 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: you have the lightweight devkit? |
00:48:16 | [IDC]Dragon | No, full cygwin. But the sh stuff is extra, right? |
00:48:31 | LinusN | yes, where did you get it? |
00:49:22 | [IDC]Dragon | cygwin or sh? cygwin from the official site. |
00:50:51 | LinusN | sh |
00:51:50 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, I can't remember. Probably from your site. |
00:52:04 | LinusN | we don't have it for download |
00:52:28 | LinusN | only the "lightweight devkit" |
00:52:36 | [IDC]Dragon | The assembler or the sh toolchain in general? |
00:52:57 | LinusN | toolchain |
00:54:18 | [IDC]Dragon | So where did I get it? Maybe I inherited it from Dirk's environment. Where is the stuff officially? |
00:54:49 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/cross-gcc.html |
00:56:00 | [IDC]Dragon | No assembler there? |
00:56:07 | LinusN | binutils |
00:57:26 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, I'll try that tomorrow, err later today after sleeping. |
00:57:29 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: try this: |
00:57:44 | LinusN | rename start.s to start.S |
00:57:54 | [IDC]Dragon | (not sleeping yet) |
00:57:56 | LinusN | and the same in the bottom of the Makefile |
00:58:34 | [IDC]Dragon | what would that change? |
00:58:50 | LinusN | it would use gcc instead of as |
00:59:24 | LinusN | like for setjmp.S |
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01:00:08 | [IDC]Dragon | Yes, that worked. Interesting concept! |
01:00:27 | LinusN | it's lovely, because you can use the C preprocessor for assembly language |
01:01:13 | [IDC]Dragon | On the long run, I have some plans for the stub. Hardware breaks would be great. |
01:01:22 | LinusN | nice |
01:01:28 | [IDC]Dragon | I learned that gdb knows the difference. |
01:01:35 | LinusN | there is also a bug in the bus error handling code |
01:01:45 | LinusN | it hangs |
01:01:51 | [IDC]Dragon | Stepping could be done by breaking on instruction fetch. |
01:02:15 | [IDC]Dragon | The box knows the concept of bus errors? |
01:03:14 | LinusN | there is no instruction fetch exception on the SH1 AFAIK |
01:03:34 | [IDC]Dragon | You can set the hardware break for that. |
01:04:13 | [IDC]Dragon | Any address, but instruction fetch. |
01:04:14 | LinusN | ah, silly me |
01:04:23 | LinusN | forgot that |
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01:04:58 | [IDC]Dragon | I just hope that the break unit gets disabled after causing its exception. |
01:06:02 | LinusN | the interrupt priority scheme takes care of that |
01:13:02 | [IDC]Dragon | Your USB polarity change is good, it seems to fix a problem I had when plugging the cable in while it boots. |
01:13:12 | LinusN | nice |
01:13:38 | [IDC]Dragon | It was crashing completely, but nobody believed me. |
01:13:50 | LinusN | i still don't :-) |
01:14:55 | [IDC]Dragon | Well, from what you said it's clear to me: plugging the cable while booting makes you use the wrong polarity. |
01:15:12 | LinusN | no |
01:15:24 | LinusN | i was wrong when i explained it to you the other day |
01:15:43 | LinusN | it is not the usb detection, but the usb control output |
01:16:12 | [IDC]Dragon | however. |
01:16:35 | LinusN | still, it's good that it fixed it |
01:17:53 | [IDC]Dragon | When I plugged while the Archos screen is there, Rockbox came with it's file list and some broken splash ontop, hanging. But now it seems fixed, not worth discussing any more. |
01:18:49 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll test gdb tomorrow, need some sleep now. |
01:19:15 | LinusN | sleep tight |
01:19:18 | [IDC]Dragon | Thank your for plenty of help tonight. |
01:19:22 | LinusN | you're welcome |
01:19:35 | [IDC]Dragon | (gone brushing teeth) |
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01:35:02 | tracktheripper | hello |
01:35:19 | LinusN | hi |
01:35:27 | tracktheripper | hey linusN |
01:35:29 | tracktheripper | u able to chat? |
01:35:51 | LinusN | not really, is it "important"? |
01:36:08 | tracktheripper | no it wasnt. Don't worry, not a problem |
01:36:41 | LinusN | busy debugging the gdb stub |
01:36:56 | tracktheripper | could the archos automatically divide CDs into individual when digital or line in recording? |
01:37:22 | LinusN | yes, based on silence detection |
01:37:37 | tracktheripper | what about when "Digital In recording" like on a MD player? |
01:37:41 | LinusN | not all that reliable, but it should be pretty good |
01:37:54 | tracktheripper | yea |
01:38:15 | LinusN | the track change signals on the digital input can't be detected |
01:38:16 | tracktheripper | cheers |
01:38:20 | tracktheripper | ohh |
01:38:24 | tracktheripper | thanks LinusN |
01:38:27 | tracktheripper | im off to have my dinner |
01:38:28 | tracktheripper | peace |
01:38:30 | tracktheripper | :-) |
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08:35:58 | Scorp | hey guys |
08:36:24 | Scorp | I just ordered my own Archos Jukebox Studio 20, for $213, was I ripped off? |
08:41:29 | Scorp | anybody? |
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09:12:54 | Mike_ | nooooooo |
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11:08:15 | tracktheripper | morning |
11:08:49 | _aLF | hi |
11:09:21 | tracktheripper | hey Alf |
11:09:23 | tracktheripper | how are u? |
11:09:28 | tracktheripper | never seen u before |
11:10:04 | _aLF | I come for 2 weeks |
11:10:07 | tracktheripper | cool |
11:10:12 | tracktheripper | what Archos device do u have? |
11:10:17 | _aLF | FM recorder |
11:10:28 | tracktheripper | cool |
11:10:31 | tracktheripper | i have a recorder 10 |
11:10:35 | tracktheripper | what is the FM rec like? |
11:10:58 | _aLF | like multimedia |
11:11:02 | _aLF | version |
11:11:21 | tracktheripper | ye |
11:11:25 | _aLF | (I choosed this model for lithium-ion battery) |
11:11:27 | tracktheripper | Is the battery life any good in the FMrec? |
11:12:01 | _aLF | with the first model I've got, the battery was dead |
11:12:10 | _aLF | (2h max) |
11:12:25 | tracktheripper | well ive heard lots of bad reports about the batteries in the FM rec |
11:12:41 | _aLF | me too |
11:13:00 | _aLF | but, I don't know the impact |
11:13:09 | _aLF | the manual says to charge |
11:13:15 | _aLF | the battery for 6 hours |
11:13:18 | tracktheripper | one thing i like about the normal REcorder is the standard batteries |
11:13:22 | _aLF | before to use it |
11:13:24 | tracktheripper | which can easily be replaced |
11:13:49 | _aLF | yes |
11:14:14 | tracktheripper | :D |
11:14:21 | _aLF | ... I will see for my battery |
11:14:35 | _aLF | (I use it a lot) |
11:14:50 | tracktheripper | oh |
11:14:55 | tracktheripper | what is the FM tuner like? |
11:15:13 | _aLF | UI ? |
11:15:50 | _aLF | there isn't RDS |
11:16:03 | _aLF | but presets |
11:16:12 | tracktheripper | well my home hifi has RDS and I never use it |
11:16:47 | _aLF | like many people |
11:17:41 | _aLF | I've made a little patch for radio on rockbox |
11:17:52 | tracktheripper | ohh |
11:18:14 | _aLF | to choose, update preset, change order |
11:18:24 | tracktheripper | oh righty i see |
11:19:55 | _aLF | dragon is working to put rockbox in flash memory |
11:19:57 | _aLF | of archos |
11:20:41 | _aLF | I'm impatient |
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16:18:32 | _aLF | I have a problem with button_get() |
16:18:42 | _aLF | someone can help me ? |
16:30:33 | NastY | just about to test rockbox |
16:30:44 | NastY | hope it's as cool as it seems |
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18:01:44 | _aLF | I would like help on button_get |
18:01:49 | _aLF | could someone help me ? |
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18:01:55 | Bagder | I could try |
18:02:05 | _aLF | hi |
18:02:11 | Bagder | what |
18:02:15 | Bagder | 's the prob? |
18:02:31 | _aLF | I would like to use on+forward, on+previous |
18:02:36 | _aLF | and "on" |
18:02:40 | _aLF | combinaison |
18:02:52 | _aLF | the problem is when I press on+forward |
18:03:00 | _aLF | it also detect "on" key |
18:03:05 | Bagder | yes |
18:03:18 | _aLF | is there a solution ? |
18:03:40 | Bagder | well, yes, make sure that the thing that acts on "on" do that on its release, not when it is pressed down |
18:04:20 | _aLF | with BUTTON_ON | BUTTON_REL: ? |
18:04:33 | Bagder | yes |
18:04:47 | _aLF | it doesn't work |
18:05:19 | _aLF | I use BUTTON_ON | BUTTON_LEFT for the other case |
18:06:18 | _aLF | perhaps I should add a flag ? |
18:06:26 | Bagder | for what? |
18:06:52 | _aLF | when I press on+left, it work |
18:07:12 | _aLF | but I release on (just after release left), it detect on |
18:07:58 | _aLF | and I don't want that |
18:08:45 | Bagder | then wait for the on-release before you return |
18:09:12 | Bagder | or do you have a better suggestion? |
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18:11:15 | _aLF | with a flag |
18:11:26 | _aLF | set when we press on+left/right |
18:11:30 | _aLF | perhaps |
18:12:11 | _aLF | and unset on "on" |
18:12:18 | _aLF | I try |
18:12:25 | _aLF | thanks |
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18:24:31 | Scorp | hello guys |
18:25:37 | [IDC]Dragon | Hello. |
18:28:35 | Scorp | I just got a Jukebox 20 from Archos, just the player and hdd for 213 was I ripped off? |
18:29:02 | Scorp | it's new though from a store |
18:30:07 | [IDC]Dragon | sounds fair. |
18:30:19 | Scorp | ok good |
18:30:26 | Scorp | it's coming on may 29th :( |
18:30:29 | [IDC]Dragon | Oh, you mean player, not recorder? |
18:30:31 | Scorp | I can't wait that long |
18:30:33 | Scorp | yeah player |
18:30:49 | [IDC]Dragon | not so good. |
18:31:20 | Scorp | what would you have paid? |
18:31:34 | Scorp | it's new though |
18:31:49 | [IDC]Dragon | hang on... |
18:33:59 | [IDC]Dragon | recorder: EUR 307 in january, mail order. |
18:34:21 | Scorp | ahh how much is that in USD? |
18:34:33 | Scorp | euro is worth more right? |
18:34:39 | [IDC]Dragon | times 1.12 or so currently |
18:35:28 | Scorp | that's 354 dollars then |
18:35:33 | [IDC]Dragon | the stuff is much cheaper in the US, saw them for little over $210 there, mail order. |
18:35:49 | Scorp | the recorders? |
18:35:54 | [IDC]Dragon | yes. |
18:36:00 | Scorp | hmm |
18:36:11 | [IDC]Dragon | no shop, though. |
18:36:21 | Scorp | the only reason I would wnat the recorder is because of the LCD is pixel based, and I could play the rockbox games |
18:36:35 | Scorp | but I think I'll have to live with out doom on a 2 inch screen :( |
18:36:36 | [IDC]Dragon | shop prices here were rather like EUR 380. |
18:36:51 | Scorp | ouch |
18:36:53 | Scorp | that's a lot |
18:37:03 | [IDC]Dragon | the current player also got a graphic sreen. |
18:38:22 | Scorp | yeah but it was somewhat out my range |
18:38:32 | Scorp | the cheapest player I could find was $213 with 0 shipping |
18:39:10 | Scorp | and the recorders were way out of my budget :( |
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18:40:32 | Scorp | by the way, how do I code on the rockbox if I want to write my own software that will run on the Jukebox Studio 20? |
18:40:45 | Scorp | do I have to do ASM or can I do some kind of C or something? |
18:41:34 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe read http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/ before asking here |
18:42:33 | Scorp | thank you |
18:44:23 | Scorp | I don't see anything that'll help me write code for the rockbox :( |
18:45:38 | [IDC]Dragon | for example, one of the entries links to http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/firsttime.html |
18:46:29 | [IDC]Dragon | (read the "for hackers" part of the docs) |
18:51:24 | Scorp | I saw all of that, but I'm not talking abotu contributing to rockbox, (yet atleast first elt me get my unit heh) but let's say for example I want to write a "Hello World" program, do I need to compile it on my PC and move it over as a bin to the unit, or does rockbox have it's own compile that will compile src files right on the unit, or what and what kind of syntax do I use so I was hoping there was a page with an explanation to all |
18:51:24 | Scorp | t I can't find it, ok well I got your link so I'll look at that. |
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22:14:18 | LightGOd20 | hello |
22:14:28 | LightGOd20 | i kinda need some help.. |
22:15:07 | LightGOd20 | i just downloaded rockbox v2.0 for jukebox5000 |
22:15:36 | LightGOd20 | copied the file on the root dir and rebooted my jukebox.. |
22:15:58 | LightGOd20 | and i just get an ""Jukebox ver 5.08"" |
22:16:05 | LightGOd20 | and after that and HD error |
22:16:15 | LightGOd20 | can anyone tell me what to do??? |
22:16:37 | Invalid_ | have you tried uninstalling rockbox? |
22:16:42 | LightGOd20 | yes |
22:16:51 | LightGOd20 | and i still get the same error |
22:17:09 | LightGOd20 | should i try a quick format? |
22:17:18 | LightGOd20 | just to check |
22:17:48 | Invalid_ | i dont know sorry |
22:17:52 | LightGOd20 | ok |
22:18:02 | LightGOd20 | thanx anyways.. |
22:18:24 | LightGOd20 | does anyone else anything about this problem? is it common? |
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22:19:59 | midknight2k3 | hello |
22:20:09 | LightGOd20 | hi |
22:20:19 | midknight2k3 | Who is this? |
22:20:34 | LightGOd20 | martin.... |
22:20:43 | midknight2k3 | never mind' |
22:20:47 | LightGOd20 | ok.. |
22:21:19 | LightGOd20 | can you gimme a hand with some issues i'm having with the firmware update? |
22:21:55 | midknight2k3 | probably |
22:21:56 | midknight2k3 | what's up? |
22:22:02 | LightGOd20 | ok. |
22:22:12 | LightGOd20 | i just downloaded rockbox v2.0 for jukebox5000 |
22:22:12 | LightGOd20 | > copied the file on the root dir and rebooted my jukebox.. |
22:22:12 | LightGOd20 | > and i just get an ""Jukebox ver 5.08"" |
22:22:12 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK LightGOd20 |
22:22:12 | LightGOd20 | > and after that and HD error |
22:22:51 | midknight2k3 | Try uninstalling rockbox perhaps |
22:22:54 | LightGOd20 | i've also tried unnistallig rockbox... |
22:23:08 | LightGOd20 | i did a quik format on the jukebox |
22:23:11 | midknight2k3 | Did you or you don't know how? |
22:23:31 | LightGOd20 | well.. how shoud i.. |
22:23:39 | midknight2k3 | How long has this been going onn? |
22:23:42 | LightGOd20 | just erase the files and put a new .mod file? |
22:23:45 | LightGOd20 | mm |
22:23:48 | LightGOd20 | just a few hours |
22:23:55 | LightGOd20 | i got the player yestarday.. |
22:24:02 | LightGOd20 | and it worked just fine,.. |
22:24:13 | midknight2k3 | And you did a qucik format? |
22:24:20 | LightGOd20 | yes.. |
22:24:29 | midknight2k3 | Odd. |
22:24:34 | LightGOd20 | yes.. |
22:24:34 | midknight2k3 | Does your hard drive work like usual? |
22:24:45 | midknight2k3 | Does it spin, or continually click? |
22:25:03 | LightGOd20 | whe it's trying to boot up it clicks |
22:25:08 | midknight2k3 | More than once? |
22:25:10 | Invalid_ | does installing rockbox void warrenty btw? |
22:25:17 | LightGOd20 | but when i plug it in the computer it works fine |
22:25:24 | midknight2k3 | I don't think so invalid |
22:25:37 | midknight2k3 | Oh so that's not the proble, |
22:25:41 | midknight2k3 | Delete the MOD file |
22:25:48 | midknight2k3 | see if that works if you didnt already |
22:26:00 | LightGOd20 | i did already |
22:26:07 | midknight2k3 | And theres still an error |
22:26:13 | LightGOd20 | i also tried the .rockbox dir also.. |
22:26:31 | midknight2k3 | Perhaps the problem is that something's missing |
22:26:41 | Invalid_ | maybe you shoud do a full format |
22:26:47 | midknight2k3 | yeah give that a go |
22:26:52 | LightGOd20 | ok |
22:26:59 | midknight2k3 | before we go deep into this tha tmight help |
22:27:01 | LightGOd20 | let's see what happens... |
22:27:07 | midknight2k3 | let's |
22:27:13 | midknight2k3 | And you just got it recently? |
22:27:24 | LightGOd20 | yep |
22:27:29 | midknight2k3 | At least the warranty is still here if you need it |
22:27:35 | LightGOd20 | a bouth it a couple of weeks ago |
22:27:37 | midknight2k3 | Perhaps even the store will exchange it for you |
22:27:44 | LightGOd20 | and i got here yestarday |
22:27:51 | LightGOd20 | (i'm in argentina) |
22:28:01 | Invalid_ | i've read a lot of posts on various forums of people saying their argos broke down very fast |
22:28:14 | midknight2k3 | That's just it |
22:28:25 | midknight2k3 | It seems not uncommon with the Player |
22:28:33 | midknight2k3 | But the Recorders seem to be very reliable |
22:28:57 | LightGOd20 | but it was workin just fine.. until i updated the firmware |
22:29:20 | midknight2k3 | It's very odd |
22:29:29 | LightGOd20 | yep indeed |
22:29:39 | midknight2k3 | I never heard of that happeneing |
22:30:19 | Invalid_ | midknight2k3: are you a developer then? |
22:30:33 | midknight2k3 | No |
22:30:47 | midknight2k3 | But I'm often around and I never heard of it |
22:31:02 | LightGOd20 | wel.. i'm just hoping i can fix this,.. |
22:31:28 | Invalid_ | you'd better just buy an ipod ;) |
22:31:35 | midknight2k3 | NO WAY |
22:31:40 | midknight2k3 | Did you rad my lecture? |
22:31:44 | midknight2k3 | I must put it online. |
22:32:00 | Invalid_ | whats wrong with the ipod? its damn sexy |
22:32:01 | midknight2k3 | It's possibly fixable |
22:32:28 | LightGOd20 | i have a question... if there's no .mod on the drive... it should just boot with the original firmware? |
22:32:39 | Invalid_ | LightGOd20: thats right |
22:33:19 | Invalid_ | midknight2k3: whats wrong with the ipod, is there some holy war between ipod and archos? |
22:33:29 | midknight2k3 | Oh god |
22:33:29 | LightGOd20 | so if it doesn't boot up i'm screwed... |
22:34:36 | Invalid_ | midknight2k3: humor me |
22:34:42 | LightGOd20 | ok.. it just finished formatting.. |
22:35:28 | LightGOd20 | same error |
22:35:41 | midknight2k3 | Huh |
22:35:48 | midknight2k3 | I would humor you |
22:35:50 | LightGOd20 | the hdd just sits there clicking |
22:35:51 | midknight2k3 | just hang on |
22:35:54 | LightGOd20 | ok |
22:36:00 | Invalid_ | clicking!? |
22:36:07 | midknight2k3 | Click, Clickclick, Click, Clickclick, Click, Clickclick, Click, Clickclick, Click, Clickclick, Click, Clickclick? |
22:36:10 | Invalid_ | thats bad |
22:36:11 | midknight2k3 | Like that> |
22:36:17 | midknight2k3 | That's very bad |
22:36:23 | Invalid_ | the disk is dead |
22:36:42 | LightGOd20 | yea.. but when it's pluged into te computer it works just fine... |
22:36:51 | Invalid_ | hmm thats strange |
22:36:55 | LightGOd20 | that's the odd part... |
22:37:15 | LightGOd20 | it's not the HDD thats dead.. must be something else.. |
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22:37:35 | midknight2k3 | Jump for joy! |
22:39:15 | midknight2k3 | ok |
22:39:19 | midknight2k3 | archos FAQs |
22:39:40 | midknight2k3 | "Why does my jukebox display HD ERROR upon startup?" |
22:39:41 | midknight2k3 | " There are different reasons why it will display this error message. It can be due to low batteries, bad batteries or corrupted registry. The best way to fix this problem is try to troubleshoot step by step. First, be sure your batteries are fully charged. Then try replacing the batteries (NiMH) and charge it for at least about 8 hrs. If still unsuccessful, the Jukebox drive must be re-formatted. Be sure to create a backup as this procedure |
22:39:42 | midknight2k3 | |
22:39:42 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
22:39:42 | midknight2k3 | |
22:40:23 | Invalid_ | indeed the batteries, thats seems logical |
22:40:36 | midknight2k3 | Give it a charge |
22:40:40 | LightGOd20 | emm.. i have some extra batteries here... 1.2 volts but 1200mah instead of 1500 |
22:40:54 | LightGOd20 | it's plugged in with the charger... |
22:41:11 | midknight2k3 | Does it work? |
22:41:33 | LightGOd20 | i mean.. if i'm workin with the DC line.. would it matter if the batteryes are dry? |
22:41:48 | midknight2k3 | It could I dunno |
22:41:57 | midknight2k3 | Try putting on archoses latest firmware |
22:42:08 | Invalid_ | 5.08 is the latest |
22:42:15 | midknight2k3 | Re-do it |
22:42:20 | LightGOd20 | ok |
22:42:22 | midknight2k3 | put the MOd file on the hard drive |
22:43:31 | LightGOd20 | well |
22:43:34 | LightGOd20 | odd part now.. |
22:43:45 | LightGOd20 | with my old batteries it works just fine.. |
22:43:59 | midknight2k3 | So it's partly fixed? |
22:44:09 | LightGOd20 | yeao |
22:44:12 | LightGOd20 | yeap |
22:44:17 | midknight2k3 | The firmware updating fixed it? |
22:44:20 | Invalid_ | good then |
22:44:26 | LightGOd20 | now i'm gonna try to upgrade to rockbox.. |
22:44:30 | midknight2k3 | Do so |
22:44:39 | midknight2k3 | I suppose your old 1200's arent powerful enough |
22:45:13 | LightGOd20 | no.. it's the other way arround |
22:45:26 | LightGOd20 | aparentry the archos 1500 are dead |
22:45:58 | Invalid_ | have you let them charge for about 8 hours before first use? |
22:46:03 | LightGOd20 | yeap |
22:46:37 | midknight2k3 | Awhile |
22:46:41 | LightGOd20 | i'm gonna charge them some more now.. |
22:47:13 | LightGOd20 | well |
22:47:17 | LightGOd20 | thanks a lot... |
22:47:25 | LightGOd20 | now it works just fine.. |
22:47:55 | LightGOd20 | with the rockbox firmware :) |
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22:48:36 | LightGOd20 | if you ever need some help with the spanish version.. just ask.. i'll be glad to help.. |
22:49:07 | Invalid_ | do you know maxima btw? |
22:49:45 | midknight2k3 | cool |
22:49:50 | midknight2k3 | I did it! |
22:49:59 | midknight2k3 | I fixed his Archos! Woooooo! |
22:50:03 | midknight2k3 | I feel so important. |
22:50:18 | Invalid_ | did you also find your lecture? :) |
22:50:25 | midknight2k3 | Yes |
22:50:36 | Invalid_ | where can i see it |
22:50:41 | midknight2k3 | I just must upload it to one of my uploading sites and you can see |
22:51:37 | LightGOd20 | well guys.. thanks a lot.... |
22:51:40 | LightGOd20 | see ya later.. |
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22:52:24 | midknight2k3 | bye |
22:52:59 | midknight2k3 | http://uploadingmisc.tripod.com/ipod-lecture.txt |
22:53:04 | midknight2k3 | doulbe click it |
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22:57:19 | Invalid_ | so all the archos has going for it is just rockbox |
22:57:28 | Invalid_ | i have the player btw |
22:57:29 | midknight2k3 | Fine |
22:57:39 | Invalid_ | and whats invert? |
22:57:40 | midknight2k3 | Oh then get the recorder |
22:57:48 | midknight2k3 | It's a much better option than an ipod |
22:58:00 | midknight2k3 | Invert is where the screen is black and the text is green like the background |
22:58:04 | midknight2k3 | It just reverses the display |
22:58:10 | midknight2k3 | It's pretty cool |
22:58:23 | midknight2k3 | But if you're going to upgrade MP3 players, I'd say a recorder |
22:58:40 | midknight2k3 | It can record, but it can do about 1000X what the player can |
22:59:10 | Invalid_ | i'm not planning on bootlegging any music concerts right now :) |
22:59:19 | midknight2k3 | Yay! |
22:59:26 | midknight2k3 | So you don't need ANY upgrade |
22:59:45 | Invalid_ | no i dont need it, but i may want it |
22:59:55 | midknight2k3 | no no no no no |
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23:00:02 | midknight2k3 | if you want it get the recorder |
23:00:07 | midknight2k3 | ipod = last resort |
23:00:26 | Invalid_ | did apple do something bad do you? |
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23:00:55 | midknight2k3 | No |
23:01:21 | Invalid_ | but you have to admit the achos is pretty damn ugly |
23:01:25 | midknight2k3 | I just despise that outrageously "I'm expensive, slick and if someone can afford me then they're ULTRA COOL!" |
23:01:29 | midknight2k3 | It's not too bad |
23:01:41 | midknight2k3 | Like people LOOK at it when you're in a car with it in your pocket. |
23:01:56 | PsycoXul | yeah |
23:02:08 | PsycoXul | most people i know are still blown away by the fact that i've got 3000+ songs in my pocket |
23:02:13 | PsycoXul | to hell with how it looks |
23:02:28 | Invalid_ | i am wondering if there is any difference in sound quality though |
23:02:58 | midknight2k3 | i'd say yes |
23:03:03 | midknight2k3 | barely but yees |
23:03:14 | midknight2k3 | ipod uses a phenomenal 60MW amp |
23:03:18 | midknight2k3 | Archos can compare |
23:03:34 | Invalid_ | it would mostly depend on the headphones |
23:03:38 | midknight2k3 | not really |
23:03:42 | midknight2k3 | wait |
23:03:45 | midknight2k3 | yes it does! |
23:03:47 | PsycoXul | heh |
23:03:53 | midknight2k3 | you have to have, uh, 5000 dollar headphones |
23:03:57 | midknight2k3 | to take advantage of it |
23:04:02 | midknight2k3 | so you see Archos is superior |
23:04:05 | PsycoXul | :p |
23:04:09 | Invalid_ | and the ones that came with the archos are extremely crappy |
23:04:18 | midknight2k3 | OH you USE them? |
23:04:19 | PsycoXul | the ones that come with everything are crappy |
23:04:25 | midknight2k3 | Anything included with anything is CRAP |
23:04:27 | Invalid_ | i've had to buy some sony ones |
23:04:33 | midknight2k3 | Really? |
23:04:37 | midknight2k3 | What a coincidence |
23:04:48 | midknight2k3 | Everyone I know uses something other than the included ones |
23:04:50 | PsycoXul | i'm gonna get some sennheiser HD280Pro's eventualy |
23:04:58 | midknight2k3 | I have some I think |
23:05:10 | midknight2k3 | the 280s I think thats what I have |
23:05:26 | Invalid_ | i have the 888's |
23:05:34 | PsycoXul | heh |
23:05:39 | midknight2k3 | I have the 212a |
23:05:58 | PsycoXul | i have sony MDR-CD280's currently |
23:06:11 | midknight2k3 | clam down |
23:06:15 | PsycoXul | these were $30 ... the sennheiser HD280Pro's are $100 |
23:06:30 | Invalid_ | mines were 85 euro's |
23:06:38 | PsycoXul | and collapsible |
23:06:51 | PsycoXul | closed, circumaural |
23:06:53 | midknight2k3 | mine were like $59.99 |
23:07:08 | Invalid_ | anywho, the arhos is a huge improvement over my minidisc |
23:07:16 | Invalid_ | god, did i hate that thing |
23:07:27 | PsycoXul | up to 32dB of ambient noise attenuation |
23:07:28 | PsycoXul | heh |
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23:09:46 | _aLF | hi |
23:09:50 | _aLF | linus |
23:09:54 | midknight2k3 | yo it's LINUS! |
23:10:01 | LinusN | wow! |
23:10:06 | midknight2k3 | I havent seen you in a while |
23:10:23 | LinusN | was here yesterday |
23:10:33 | midknight2k3 | I didn't see edh |
23:11:08 | midknight2k3 | I wanted to say that you should remove the Create Playlist feature until it's ready |
23:11:16 | LinusN | huh? |
23:11:22 | midknight2k3 | You can only make ones of directories, but that doesn't do much |
23:11:35 | midknight2k3 | Youcan just hit PLAY on a song and it will go and play em all |
23:11:50 | LinusN | why would we remove it because it doesn't do what *you* want it to? |
23:11:56 | PsycoXul | midknight2k3: it's recursive |
23:12:01 | midknight2k3 | Well does it help others? |
23:12:07 | PsycoXul | yes |
23:12:12 | midknight2k3 | I don't get how it would help |
23:12:19 | PsycoXul | i can hit create playlist at the root directory and make a wholedisk playlist that i can shuffle |
23:12:19 | midknight2k3 | It's just like playing a directory |
23:12:27 | PsycoXul | midknight2k3: except it's recursive |
23:12:34 | LinusN | midknight2k3: it's *recursive* |
23:12:43 | midknight2k3 | forget it |
23:13:37 | PsycoXul | it'd be nice if it sorted the way the browser does imo though |
23:13:49 | LinusN | yes it would be nice |
23:13:53 | PsycoXul | so multi-disk albums play right and such |
23:16:59 | _aLF | LinusN> I would like to implement "force mono" and "sensitivity" for radio |
23:17:11 | LinusN | _aLF: easy as pie |
23:17:13 | _aLF | but I need to read IN2 of fm chip |
23:17:25 | LinusN | why? |
23:17:27 | _aLF | and I don't know how to do |
23:17:50 | _aLF | fmradio_set(2, 0x140884) <−− I would like to modify |
23:17:56 | _aLF | only some bits |
23:18:07 | LinusN | mirror it |
23:18:12 | _aLF | ok |
23:18:31 | LinusN | or rather, create it for every write |
23:18:55 | _aLF | yes |
23:19:22 | _aLF | I thought about make "force mono" for each preset |
23:19:34 | _aLF | I don't know if it's usefull |
23:19:46 | LinusN | not sure about that |
23:20:15 | LinusN | still, it might be useful, for timed recordings... |
23:20:26 | LinusN | nah |
23:20:58 | _aLF | ok |
23:21:58 | _aLF | I made a patch of menu.c/h to handle custom key in menu |
23:22:12 | _aLF | but I have problem for updating menu |
23:22:25 | _aLF | (to move up/down preset) |
23:23:03 | LinusN | you want to change the menu contents while displaying it? |
23:23:53 | _aLF | yes |
23:24:12 | _aLF | with on+up/on+down to sort presets |
23:24:27 | LinusN | oh |
23:24:55 | LinusN | how did you do the custom key handling? |
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23:25:39 | _aLF | LinusN> yes |
23:25:46 | _aLF | with custom key handler |
23:26:05 | LinusN | yes, but describe how you solved it? |
23:26:42 | _aLF | I added : int menu_init_with_keyhandler(struct menu_items* items, int |
23:26:42 | _aLF | count, KeyHandler* handlers, int handlerscount); |
23:27:06 | LinusN | isn't that a bit, well, complicated? |
23:27:08 | _aLF | and typedef int (*KeyHandler)(int, struct menu); |
23:27:17 | _aLF | perhaps |
23:27:31 | LinusN | i'm not too fond of callbacks |
23:28:10 | _aLF | I didn't know how to do it |
23:28:55 | _aLF | (each KeyHandler can do what they want : move selection, exit etc...) |
23:29:04 | LinusN | i'd prefer a menu function that just displays the menu and returns, and lets the caller handle the keys |
23:29:40 | _aLF | but go next, previous, check usb is always the same code |
23:30:19 | LinusN | yes, maybe the menu function should return when an "unknown" key is pushed |
23:30:32 | LinusN | and the caller can handle the key and reenter the menu |
23:31:21 | _aLF | F2/F3 are already catch by default menu |
23:31:39 | LinusN | yes, and we must change that |
23:32:56 | _aLF | It's not complex to adapt radio.c to another method |
23:33:10 | LinusN | what do you mean? |
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23:33:38 | _aLF | I continue with my keyhandler |
23:33:45 | _aLF | and update later |
23:33:50 | LinusN | sure |
23:34:26 | _aLF | for recording of radio, I go to record_screen |
23:34:57 | _aLF | perhaps it should record directly ? |
23:35:25 | LinusN | would be nice |
23:35:46 | _aLF | ok |
23:36:05 | _aLF | there is a RFE |
23:36:14 | _aLF | to set ID3tag according to frequency |
23:36:32 | midknight2k3 | that's a good idea |
23:37:20 | _aLF | but there is not way to give an id3 to mpeg.c |
23:37:40 | LinusN | _aLF: are you preparing a patch to send to the tracker? |
23:38:39 | _aLF | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=732369&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
23:39:23 | _aLF | I hasn't update it for this day |
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23:40:05 | LinusN | what i was coming to is that it is hard for us to merge large patches |
23:40:31 | LinusN | not of technical reasons, but we'd rather fix one thing at a time, to keep control of things |
23:40:48 | Invalid_ | does anybody know why the archos faq says to connect the usb cable to the archos first and then to the pc? does it really matter? |
23:41:04 | _aLF | LinusN> it's just modify radio.c/radio.h |
23:41:11 | _aLF | except for menu |
23:41:24 | LinusN | _aLF: rather one feature per patch |
23:41:50 | LinusN | a preset editor patch, possibly with menu.c changes |
23:41:53 | LinusN | a mute patch |
23:42:13 | LinusN | mute should be the same key as in WPS IMHO |
23:42:43 | _aLF | which key is it ? |
23:43:10 | _aLF | F1+play |
23:43:17 | _aLF | ok |
23:44:13 | _aLF | I will try to make different patchs |
23:44:48 | _aLF | I also though about a scan feature, to fill quickly preset |
23:45:02 | _aLF | don't know if it's a good idea |
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23:47:54 | LinusN | _aLF: regarding the radio settings (mono, sensitivity), look at mpeg_set_sound() and do a similar approach |
23:47:57 | LinusN | and remember KISS |
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23:50:45 | _aLF | LinusN> ok |