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#rockbox log for 2003-05-22

00:15:40 Quit elinenbe (" HydraIRC -> <- \o/")
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00:30:20 Join Scorp [0] (
00:30:28Scorpguys I just got my rockbox, and I plugged it into the DC
00:30:32Scorpand it says battery charging
00:30:42Scorpcan I use it while it is charging?
00:30:50ScorpJukebox Studio 20
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00:34:59 Join midknight2k3 [0] (
00:35:13midknight2k3Heh, LinusN|Food
00:37:33hardeepScorp: With the rockbox firmware you can certainly use the device while it's charging. With the Archos firmware, on the recorder models you hold on to ON to reboot system so that you can use it... not sure about studio
00:40:24 Part LinusN|food
00:43:54Scorpoh sweet it worked thanks harddeep
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00:56:34Yefti'm back
00:56:50Yeft: )
00:57:09midknight2k3I remember you
00:57:09midknight2k3Last night, right?
00:57:09DBUGEnqueued KICK midknight2k3
00:57:09midknight2k32 nights ago?
00:57:24midknight2k3didn't I help you fix the archos or something?
00:57:52midknight2k3I distinctly remember a 'thank you so much' or something like htat
00:59:11Yeftlast night
00:59:15Yeftit was me
00:59:22Yeftit was about the playlist
00:59:30Yeftbut now my mp3 won't start again : (
00:59:44midknight2k3u hoh
00:59:52midknight2k3what happened?
00:59:59midknight2k3hard drive error again?
01:00:47Yeftit lags up at the jukebox 6gb sscreen again
01:01:25midknight2k3i just don't get it
01:01:45midknight2k3try to download a new daily build making sure it's for the player version
01:01:52midknight2k3it will probably help
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01:08:41midknight2k3...bye all!
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01:11:01midknight2k3What are you, set up so you never get kicked?
01:12:18midknight2k3Due to your lack of response, I am going to ASSUME that's a 'yes'.
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01:13:08Yeftoh, i am
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01:17:14Yeft3(~ Laughing Out Loud ~)
01:17:17midknight2k3What's goin' on???
01:17:26midknight2k3I see it!
01:17:30midknight2k3Laughing Out Loud
01:17:37midknight2k3<Yeft3> (~ Laughing Out Loud ~)
01:17:37Yeft3i forgot which script something was on
01:17:45midknight2k3What where?
01:17:59midknight2k3Yeft5, where arrrrre youuu?
01:18:43ScorpI got my JB, oh yeah I got my JB
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01:19:16Scorphow come there is no remote on the studio though?
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01:19:46midknight2k3you got your jb? as in just bought it?
01:20:11Scorpmidknight2k3: exactly
01:20:15Scorpas in it just arrived
01:20:40ScorpWhy is there no remote though?
01:20:51midknight2k3they don't have em i dont thinj
01:20:58ScorpI thought they did
01:20:59midknight2k3even if they do it's not a standard accessory
01:21:07midknight2k3you don't simply get one
01:21:07Scorpoh ok
01:21:12midknight2k3you have to order it i think
01:21:15Scorpit has a volume control on the headpones
01:21:18midknight2k3i didnt get one with my recorder
01:21:23midknight2k3Yeah it's dumb
01:21:30midknight2k3you have a studio?
01:21:59midknight2k3i hate them blasted earphones
01:22:10midknight2k3they're just cruddy
01:22:31Scorpthey feel flimsy, but I have no complaints about quality - I only listened for a few seconds though
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01:23:04midknight2k3They feel flimsy, don't fit ON your ears and fold when you dont want em to
01:23:28midknight2k3Where's TINYYEFT?
01:23:29Scorpwait this maybe a stupid question: but you do realize the band goes behind your head right?
01:23:41CtcpIgnored 3 channel CTCP requests in 22 minutes and 34 seconds at the last flood
01:23:41*MiniYeft chases after midknight2k3 with a weed wacker....hey you need a haircut!
01:23:49MiniYeftmidknight2k3 on @#Operhelp @#dalnethelp #rockbox
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01:24:28MiniYeftmidknight2k3 on @#FBI @#Scotland-Yard +#MI2 @#KGB @#ASIO #rockbox
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01:24:49midknight2k3MiniYeft is * Yeftie
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01:24:56Scorpblah guys stop
01:25:02midknight2k3i didn't do it he did
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01:25:04Scorpif I need his WHOIS i'll get it
01:25:11 Quit Yeft (" Info-[v9.4.2]- Released-[August 10, 2002]- Channel-[#Excursi")
01:25:15midknight2k3put on rockbox scorp
01:25:27Scorpmidknight2k3 I will :)
01:25:32midknight2k3it's owrth it
01:25:35ScorpI know
01:25:38Scorpthat's why I got the player
01:25:39midknight2k3too bad it's not a recorder but it's still neat
01:25:49ScorpI saw all the things rockbox could do, and it basically sold the player for me
01:25:57Scorpthey should advertise rockbox as a feature ;)
01:26:03midknight2k3they cant really
01:26:22Scorpyeah I only now realized that I should've gotten the recorder, but whatever I'm fine.
01:26:27Scorpwhy not? Isn't rockbox GPL?
01:26:39midknight2k3rumors are that archos wanted to include rockbox with mp3 players, rockbox said Okay but they simply wanted some info on the MAS chip and archos never got back to em
01:26:58Scorpwell I can understand why
01:27:09Scorpif they developed the MAS chip then they probably won't to keep it secret :-/
01:27:15Scorpunless they hire the rockbox guys :)
01:27:21midknight2k3they didnt
01:27:31midknight2k3it's a texas instruments chip i believe
01:27:44midknight2k3but archos can program it and rockbox just wanted some basic info
01:28:03midknight2k3on how to provide better sound quality and perhaps ogg or something
01:28:10midknight2k3whatever, to reprogram it and make it better
01:28:15midknight2k3then both would be happy
01:28:28midknight2k3archos could advertise it and rockbox could have better quality
01:28:57Scorpdamn I don't want to wait 8 hours for this puppy to charge!
01:29:10Scorpcan't it just do with 4?
01:29:18Scorpor can I upload and charge at the same time?
01:30:31Scorpby the way if I upload things to the Jukebox now, will I be able to upload rockbox later?
01:30:36Scorpwith out removing it all?
01:31:13midknight2k3wait hang on here lol
01:32:08midknight2k3are you going to rip cds and move it to the archos simultaneously?
01:32:16midknight2k3or is it on the hard driv enow/
01:32:27midknight2k3'the hard drive' = your pc hard drive
01:32:43Scorpit's on the harddrive
01:32:49Scorpand I want to move it to the Archos
01:32:59midknight2k3you don't really even have to charge it but i'd say do it for an hour then being transfer
01:33:00Scorpand then install rockbox after I get to play with the default firmware
01:33:07midknight2k3rockbox can come later
01:33:12Scorpok cool
01:33:28Scorpso I'll just transfer now while it's charging it's already been charging for 40+ mins
01:33:37midknight2k3oh yeah
01:33:43midknight2k3but watch the battery meter
01:33:57midknight2k3you on usb2 or 1?
01:34:06midknight2k3ok it should be ok
01:34:18Scorpit's plugged in and charging as it's transferring
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01:34:28midknight2k3but sometimes the transferring sucks up more power than the charger can produce
01:34:29***Alert Mode OFF
01:34:34Scorpoh ok
01:34:36midknight2k3it then starts raiding the batteries
01:34:47Scorpwell I only have 2 gigs of music anyways
01:34:55midknight2k3leaving it plugged in will supply it with power, but not charge
01:34:59midknight2k3good then
01:35:03midknight2k3it should go fine
01:35:07Scorpactually only 1.17 gigs :(
01:35:23Jet88101.17 gigs? why so little?
01:35:24Scorphmm... must start downloading
01:35:27Scorpmust rip off RIAA
01:35:33Scorpbecause I usually end up doing something stupid
01:35:41Scorplike mounting the D partition with smbmount from Linux
01:35:50midknight2k3its ipod guy
01:35:54Scorpand then typing something like rm -rf /home/mike/mnt/D
01:36:06Jet8810your ipod guy too!
01:36:12midknight2k3not really
01:36:16midknight2k3i knew what i was doing
01:36:27Scorpoh oh
01:37:11ScorpWindows was unable to save all the date for the file \device\harddiskvolume7\classical\carmina −− m.p3 The data has been lost this error may because by a failure of your computer hw or network connection please try to save this file elsewhere
01:37:38Scorp...yet it's continuing uploading to the mp3 player?
01:38:26Scorpwell my guess is that I can't ruin the player, right?
01:39:01midknight2k3no way
01:39:15Scorpok then I'll just finish uploading later
01:39:18ScorpI got 3 bands in
01:39:21Scorp3 dirs rather
01:40:03midknight2k3stay here
01:40:08midknight2k3report the results
01:40:38Scorpwill do :)
01:40:59Scorplistening to ACDC
01:41:07Scorpnah it's fine
01:41:23midknight2k3let me know
01:41:35ScorpI thought that only one earphone was playing
01:42:11Scorpgood stuff :)
01:42:20Scorpquality is not 100% but it's good enough for me
01:42:28midknight2k3rockbox sound better
01:42:35midknight2k3and archos volume has no oomph
01:42:43midknight2k3rockbox amplifies it totally
01:43:09Scorpawesome :)
01:43:26midknight2k3yeah WOOW
01:44:29ScorpI love this baby
01:45:08ScorpMust download MP3s, must rip off RIAA
01:45:48Scorp...must fill 20 gigs of space with music. ripped off from RIAA.
01:47:16***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
01:47:52Scorpmusic sounds better when it's stolen :)
01:48:08Jet8810I buy my CDs
01:48:17Jet8810worth supporting my artists, and none so far have had any protection
01:48:47ScorpI buy CDs too
01:48:50ScorpI bought 2 CDs
01:48:53Scorpjust ... erm
01:48:55Scorpa few years ago :(
01:49:08Scorpthey were the only CDs I've ever bought in my life :'(
01:49:26Jet8810come on, dont steal
01:50:28ScorpIt's not stealing if you pretend that it isn't
01:50:43midknight2k3Nice way to think of it
01:51:07midknight2k3see jet
01:51:20Scorpit's like returning books to borders after reading them "They WANT you to return the books, that's why they have a 30 day return policy!"
01:52:04midknight2k3there you go
01:52:07midknight2k3...lathough i didn'
01:52:15Jet8810yea, justifying your bullshit :-P
01:52:15midknight2k3really GET that
01:52:36midknight2k3What would you mean by that?
01:52:43midknight2k3Ripping off the RIAA?
01:52:51ScorpThe RIAA wants you to download music, that's why the support KaZaA (notice the preceding statement is bull shit, and should not be taken seriously unless justifying the theft of music. That is all)
01:53:04Jet8810yea midnight
01:53:20Jet8810heh Scorp
01:53:23Scorpok Jet8810 have you ever stolen your neighbors newspaper?
01:53:23Jet8810I couldn tcare about the RIAA
01:53:26Jet8810its the artists I care about
01:53:34Jet8810Scorp, no, I have my own actually
01:53:39midknight2k3im sure he'd love to rip off the neighbors
01:53:50Jet8810well they do call they police at parties ;)
01:53:51Scorpyou know the 10 commandments aren't meant to be taken at face value, god downloads music too you know.
01:53:52midknight2k3And for a newspaper?
01:54:16midknight2k3the neighbor-paper joke was funny, but the god this is just dumb.
01:54:39Scorpno don't worry I'm not an atheist nor am I ultra religious I'm just joking
01:54:47Jet8810heh Scorp
01:54:59midknight2k3i know that
01:55:05midknight2k3i meant it was dumb not racist
01:55:12midknight2k3I'm not racist. I have a color TV!
01:56:47Scorpso on more important topics
01:56:53Scorpmy jukebox is better than yours.
01:57:11midknight2k3Mine is better than yours
01:57:26midknight2k3My RioRiot could top it off if they'd get a new firmware update for it.
01:57:30Scorpwell you got the recorder right?
01:58:02ScorpI got the studio :(
01:58:07midknight2k3SO MUCH BETTERER!
01:58:53Scorpwhen using rockbox does it take 30 years for the name to start scrolling also?
01:59:09midknight2k3you can set the option
01:59:28midknight2k3Menu - General Settings - Display - Scroll Start Speed (in MS)
01:59:30Scorpeven in archos?
01:59:33midknight2k3if you have rockbox that is
01:59:36midknight2k3get rockbox
01:59:38Scorpoh ok
01:59:45ScorpI'm getting it I'm getting it
01:59:49Jet8810midknight, how do you like the bigass Rioriot?
02:00:01midknight2k3Do you find your face funny?
02:00:03midknight2k3I love the rioriot
02:00:11midknight2k3it fits in my pocket
02:00:17midknight2k3great enough for me
02:00:33Jet8810like it mor ethen recorder?
02:00:45midknight2k3but it's cool
02:00:51midknight2k3if someone would HACK IT
02:01:02midknight2k3or MODIFY the ROCKBOX to WORK on the DARN THING.
02:01:36Scorpand the archos doesn't fit in your pocket?
02:01:45midknight2k3yes it does
02:01:47midknight2k3oh my go
02:02:21midknight2k3let me clarify: archos rocks, rockbox, size, storage, all that - rioriot is also cool: sound, 2.25" screen, reverse backlight
02:02:25Scorpby the way I didn't mean the scroll speed, I meant when I select a file, it shows only a part of the name in then like 2 seconds it starts scrolling, I don't want to wait that long I want it to scroll right away so I can figure out what I'm looking for, Imagine having 300 files and looking fora song!
02:02:29midknight2k3and storage
02:02:30Jet8810the archos is much smaller then the rioriot midknight
02:02:32Jet8810I have seen one
02:02:34midknight2k3I know
02:02:44midknight2k3scorp that's how to set it
02:02:44Jet8810but the hug escreen an dFM is nice on rioriot
02:02:50midknight2k3you SAW ONE?
02:02:51Jet8810I just couldnt live with the size though
02:02:59midknight2k3it's ok for me tho
02:03:12midknight2k3them sonicbluers spent all their cash in that nice screen
02:03:12Jet8810feeling sarcastic? :)
02:03:13Scorpok ty midknight2k3
02:03:22midknight2k3no im not
02:03:27midknight2k3yw scrop
02:03:33midknight2k3scorp i mean
02:03:49Scorpsorry I was about to sneezy and didn't want to type out "Thank You"
02:04:02Scorperm sneeze
02:04:10midknight2k3jet, it fits in my coat pocket, sounds great, has a neat screen and sound good, so it's completely unsarcastically OKAY for ME.
02:04:22midknight2k3it's also got some room
02:05:15Jet8810no midknight...
02:05:29Jet8810-<midknight2k3> you SAW ONE?
02:05:41midknight2k3i own one
02:05:54midknight2k3but man, looking at one jet? what's that like porn for 4 year olds?
02:06:44midknight2k3i dont think many people see one
02:06:45Jet8810well I dont harass strangers with MP3 players :)
02:06:51midknight2k3back up
02:06:59Jet8810forget it
02:07:03Scorpmy years hurt
02:07:03midknight2k3harass strangers with mp3 players?
02:07:06midknight2k3you mean it's size?
02:07:14Jet8810like, I wasnt goign to ask to see this guys Rio
02:07:27midknight2k3it doesnt matter
02:07:29midknight2k3you can see mine
02:07:40ScorpI'm not used to the headphones so my ears hurt, blah.
02:07:48midknight2k3i knowt
02:07:53midknight2k3get new headphones
02:09:04ScorpI like these though
02:09:23midknight2k3heh ehh
02:09:30midknight2k3shur ya do
02:09:48Scorpok my batteries are charging
02:09:52Scorpit's 5:05
02:10:00Scorpthey've been charging since 3:30
02:10:02midknight2k3where are you
02:10:07Scorpdo you think until 10 it's enough?
02:10:10midknight2k3ts 5:09 here
02:10:22midknight2k3were both pacific
02:10:22Scorpwhere are you?
02:10:31midknight2k3its like 5am for Linusn
02:10:36ScorpPST rules.
02:10:44ScorpIt even rules EST
02:11:19midknight2k3whos bored
02:11:22midknight2k3oh yeah scorp
02:11:28midknight2k3til 10 should be just fine
02:11:33Scorpat 10
02:11:40midknight2k3doesnt need to be charged all the way anyways
02:11:42ScorpI play with the Archos OS and install rockbox
02:11:53midknight2k3that's just to get you going with your batteries
02:11:59midknight2k3so you have time to PLAY
02:12:11Scorpcan I leave it over night?
02:12:27Scorpoh and how many weeks of daily usage before I have to replace batteries?
02:12:32Scorp(charging overnight I mean)
02:13:06midknight2k3oh a long time
02:13:25midknight2k3just when you notice they seem to stop holding a charge as well then you can change em
02:13:39midknight2k3i did a lot of charging and draining it took me 6 months
02:13:47midknight2k3for most people it will take about a year
02:13:49Scorpoh dude
02:14:00Scorpyou may want to go buy GTA3
02:14:06Scorpthey are going to ban anti-cop games
02:14:09Scorpin washington
02:14:20midknight2k3oh really?
02:14:31midknight2k3i wanna move!
02:14:41midknight2k3i have it
02:14:48midknight2k3i ripped off the RIAA ;)
02:14:59Scorpiono Jet8810 maybe because we have some real dumb people in this country that can't tell the diffrence between Reality and a VIDEO GAME.
02:15:11midknight2k3I HATE THAT
02:15:28midknight2k3they're always like, AHHHH A VIDEO GAME it's going to make you insane in real life
02:15:33ScorpWe need a new education system, and a class that teaches kids the diffrence between game and reality
02:16:08Scorphey I don't blame them, I blame the fucked up kids who shoot people because they learned to do it in a Video game, wtf is that about?
02:16:15Jet8810we should make all war into a video game
02:16:18Jet8810and have world peace!
02:16:41Scorpyeah but then people like Heraldo won't get to make an ass of themseleves on public TV :)
02:16:48Scorp(the guy who d rew the map in the sand)
02:18:13ScorpEnter The Matrix might be banned for purchase by those under 17, due to the player battling cops, despite EtM only being rated 'Teen' by the ESRB.
02:18:48Scorpit's ok there is always kazaa
02:19:04Scorpdude in Greece they band _all_ games
02:19:31PsycoXulyeah for like what a couple weeks or something wasn't it?
02:20:01Scorpoh they removed the ban?
02:20:08PsycoXulrather quickly, yes
02:20:15PsycoXulfrom what i heard
02:20:38midknight2k3so psyco
02:20:51midknight2k3you have some sort of anti-rockbox-kickout program eh?
02:22:52midknight2k3why is it every time i say a word all the talking halts in here?
02:23:18Scorpwhy doesn't psyco answer the question
02:23:22PsycoXulanti-rockbox-kickout program?
02:23:47midknight2k3you abd 3 others left
02:23:50midknight2k3got kicked
02:23:55midknight2k3you all came back 10 secs later
02:24:31midknight2k3oh BOY
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02:24:53PsycoXulthats called a netsplit
02:25:00PsycoXul2 servers on the network lose the connection to each other
02:25:03midknight2k3so you never can leave or what?
02:25:41PsycoXulsince i was on one end of the split and you were on the other
02:25:54PsycoXulit looked like everybody on your end quit to me and it looked like everyone on my end quit to you
02:26:05PsycoXuland then rejoined when the servers reestablished their connection
02:26:57PsycoXulthough actualy my irc client is aware of what netsplits look like and instead of showing a bunch of people quitting and then joining the channel it just shows
02:27:02PsycoXul16:07 -!- Netsplit <-> quits:
02:27:02PsycoXul midknight2k3, seb-sleep, Jet8810, dw|gone, webmind, Scorp, Kinslayer,
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02:27:10PsycoXul hardeep, TotMacher, dw|gone, mecraw, seb-sleep (+9 more)
02:27:28Scorpalright we get the point, who cares.
02:28:09PsycoXulwell he asked :p
02:28:17midknight2k3i didnt ask for all that
02:28:26PsycoXulyes you did
02:28:29PsycoXulyou just didn't know it at the time
02:28:50midknight2k3OH BOY
02:29:06midknight2k3tell me this
02:29:13PsycoXulmidknight2k3: this.
02:29:18midknight2k3if you had a box full of packaging peanuts what would you do with them?
02:29:41PsycoXulstick it up on the the thing with the rest
02:29:44Scorppackage packaging peanutes and ship them somewhere
02:29:50PsycoXulwhere i keep those
02:30:16midknight2k3shut up
02:30:31midknight2k3what would you send a crazy person for their birthday
02:30:38PsycoXulnow my salad's ready.. and probably dinner shortly after, so bbbl
02:30:48PsycoXulmidknight2k3: something they'd like?
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02:44:13midknight2k3be back in a bit
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02:50:25Scorpmy "Package Conents" lists "Detachable wire remote control" I don't see one... in the package
02:50:59ricIII'm back!!
02:51:55Scorpalso what the hell does the Line IN thing do if it can't record?
02:52:01ricIII resolderd my ram 3 times, turnes out te be a faulty battery
02:55:10ricIII was afraid I broke my rockbox beyond repairs.. (hence my absence last months)
03:00:22Jet8810Scorp dunno
03:01:41ScorpI think they said that it can be used to listen to other devices via the earphones attached to my archos, but why can't I just attach my earphones directly into that device?
03:02:00Scorpand if it's possible why can't I plug a mic in and record using that line in thing?
03:03:30ricIIScorp: isn;t it called a recorder ?
03:05:14Scorpno, I have the studio
03:05:36Scorpbut it has a "Line In" thing
03:05:49ricIIso indeed what use is there for a line-in...
03:06:57ricIImust be something from the markeydroids...
03:08:44Scorpwhat's the key for the dumb MusicMatch crap?
03:08:47ScorpI mean where is it located?
03:09:39ricIIdon't know n never tried it..
03:10:02Scorpdo you know if it works with rockbox?
03:10:43ricIIsuppose to work since you get a copy with the jukebox
03:11:10ricIIit only handkes cd ripping & encoding .
03:11:11Scorpoh well it looks kind of ugly anyways <point, point click click uninstall, bye>
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03:15:36ricIIwell I way beyound my bedtime... and got to be up & work in 6h ... cu say in 14h
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04:00:55midknight2k3everyones busy
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04:01:18midknight2k3goodbye then
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04:35:36rock122how is the archos recorder really i heard its a little bulky
04:35:53rock122and how is battery problem i keep hearing about
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05:13:05diensthundsanybody awake?
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05:13:53diensthundsI could use a little help with archos and rockbox
05:14:10frankincensedcan anyone tell me how to deinstall archos driver, its causing major config probs with my xp pro
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05:14:45LunaticFrigewassabi ?
05:16:10diensthundsmore speciffically I should mention that I'm using Linux
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05:17:18Scorpguys can anyone tell me if it is possible to share files between 2 archos with out a computer?
05:17:30Scorpjust take the USB cable plug it into one and into the other and swap files?
05:18:19Scorpanyways if the devs could answer if that's possible to develop?
05:18:20diensthundsDunno Scorp I'm still trying to get mine mounted so I can access it under linux
05:18:50Scorpwhich Linux?
05:18:53frankincensedcan anyone tell me how to deinstall archos driver, its causing major config probs w my xp pro
05:18:55diensthundsMandrake 9.1
05:19:46Scorp seen this?
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05:22:06rock122Hey how bulky is the archos recorder
05:22:16rock122and what about this fast battery loss thing
05:23:06diensthundsyea but that's for the archos 6000 I've got an ArchosMP3 Player Recorder / 20 GB hard drive
05:23:18diensthundsit uses the 3000 chipset
05:23:21LunaticFrigeget my recorder20 tomorrow
05:23:38frankincensedcan someone tell me how to deinstall archos driver its causing major config probs on my xp pro, i have recoder 20 gb h.d.
05:24:33Scorpfrankincensed: it's in the docs with the player I think.
05:25:06frankincenseddont think so ive checked both the hard copy and the online manual
05:26:44LunaticFrigeis it now, or will it be possible in future to make use of the MAD decoder ?
05:27:38ScorpI don't think there is support for anything but MP3 right now
05:27:54Scorphowever, I don't know much, and I wouldn't go based on what I say.
05:28:39diensthundsok i'm not figurin this out
05:30:33LunaticFrigeis there any other upgrades avail besides Rockbox ?
05:33:48Scorpumm guys there are no files in my archos root folder, no archos.mod nothing
05:33:58Scorpshould I just unzip the rockbox thing into the root folder just like that?
05:35:08diensthundswell scorp your doing better then I am
05:35:15Scorpok werks heh
05:35:25Scorpdiensthunds don't you have any windows machine?
05:39:40diensthundsyea but I refuse to use them
05:39:57diensthundswhich is why i am trying to get this to work under Linux
05:40:40Scorpeh, my suggestion drop Linux Windows and everything in between, real men use UNIX. (Not OS X)
05:40:49ScorpI'm kidding ofcourse, I use Linux and Windows too.
05:41:00ScorpI use whatever works best for the job
05:41:27diensthundsyea yea yea mr. smarty pants, now how about we just get this working under Mandrake? eh?
05:42:02Scorpit's your mandrake that you have to worry about
05:42:05ScorpI have to worry about gentoo
05:42:09Scorpalthough I haven't tried yet
05:42:19Scorp seen this yet?
05:44:19diensthundsyea I checked that, and I even downloaded the manual for it, unfortunately the only thing I can find under installing has to do with windows...there's nothing about getting it to work with linux, im guessing you have to use a windows machine to get the new .mod file installed
05:44:57diensthundson the other hand i've hear that this should work under linux using the usb-mass storage device driver, unfortunately I can't get that to work either
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05:47:29rock122How is the battery problem i've been hearing about for the archos i want to get the archos jukebox fm recorder
05:48:03diensthundsbatteries work ok for me
05:48:38LunaticFrigefm recorder uses a special batt pack right ?
05:50:05diensthundsyea the batteries come with it and the manual says to only use those battieres
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06:05:25rock122is the type were the are like wrapped together
06:05:34rock122i heard it takes hella long to charge
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06:10:26ScorpGuys I'm using rockbox and Windows 2000 and I get this problem when trying to write to the player, I had the same problem when using the original Archos firmware "Windows was unable to save all the data for the file \device\harddiskvolume6\Classical\somefile.mp3. The data has been lost. This error may be caused by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try so save this file elsewhere. Any idea what may be ca
06:14:12frankincensedwell im still stuck, does anyone know how to deinstall driver for archos recorder 20 causing major config probs with xp pro
06:14:33Scorpgo to the hardware thing place maybe
06:14:36Scorpright click my computer
06:14:40Scorpselect properties
06:14:55Scorpclick on hardware tab
06:15:00Scorpthen device manager
06:15:08Scorpthis is how it is on w2k it maybe diffrent on XP
06:15:14Scorpsee if you can remove/disable it from there
06:18:22frankincensedwould it be sis 7001 pci to usb open host controller or usb root hub, it shows two of each
06:18:36Scorpwell it's not usb root hub
06:18:40Scorpactually I'm not sure
06:18:58frankincensedthanks anyway, anyone else care to take a shot
06:19:34Scorpif you go to control panel and do add/remove software it doesn't show up there does it?
06:20:45Scorpsorry wish I could help you out
06:20:54Scorpmaybe email archos tech support with your problem?
06:22:00Scorp(it's worth a try, maybe someone else experienced the same problem
06:23:00frankincensedactually there are a few there usb storage adaptor (tpp), usb storage adaptor v2 (tpp) & usb storage adaptor v3 (tpp)
06:23:15Scorpcould be that
06:23:19Scorpbut you have to be sure
06:23:41frankincensedi talked to a guy at archos, he just poo pooed the problem and said he never heard of it causing a problem
06:24:39Scorpanyways anyone know why this happens:
06:24:47ScorpGuys I'm using rockbox and Windows 2000 and I get this problem when trying to write to the player, I had the same problem when using the original Archos firmware "Windows was unable to save all the data for the file \device\harddiskvolume6\Classical\somefile.mp3. The data has been lost. This error may be caused by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try so save this file elsewhere. Any idea what may be ca
06:25:09Scorpit's also worth pointing out that the file it complains about is still written to my archos and it's the same size as the original!
06:26:02Scorpthat and the player makes one hell of an ugly noise, it's quiet but ugly before the error
06:28:11ScorpWinME, Win2000, and WinXP: Drivers are not required. Windows will install and use; "USB Mass Storage Device" drivers by default.
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06:28:26Scorpnot true, win2k asked me for drivers
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06:32:42Scorpdo your jukeboxes make a funny noise when used?
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06:34:22frankincensedwell that got rid of some of the drivers, but the one from the install disc is still there and its the one causing the problem
06:34:34Scorpwhat's the problem by the way?
06:35:50frankincensedit causes some config probs with my email client
06:36:12frankincensedi cant get my email when that driver is in there,...weird as it may sound
06:37:31Scorpumm, I have a feeling that that is not the problem for some reason?
06:38:14Scorpyou can browse the web but you can't download your email with that driver enabled?
06:38:18Scorpsounds fishy to me
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06:39:11Scorpanyways I hava ta runa, oka? I be back later
06:39:17Scorpbye guys, rockbox trully rocks!
06:39:21frankincensedthanks for the hekp
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06:41:52frankincensedand everytime i try to reinstall a different driver package i get that warning from xp that the driver is not compatible
06:43:09PsycoXulnot logo certified?
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06:43:32rock122if not logo certifid your fine
06:43:36rock122go ahead and install it
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09:48:20webmindej ricII
09:48:25webmindmorning btw
10:07:34dwihnoI've had my Archos for a year now :-)
10:07:41dwihnoStill rocking ;D
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10:15:54webminddwihno, same here
10:17:27dwihnoDamn damn damn
10:17:35dwihnoFor some reason, the threading is erroneous!
10:17:40dwihnoMy evil app is evil! :(
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11:03:09Bagderwe're approaching the rockbox 1.0 anniversary
11:04:42dwihnoWhat happens when you terminate thread which has open files in the *nix environment?
11:04:56dwihnoOn Windows, the file remains open! :/ (at least, my application)
11:06:09Bagderthat's what happens on all systems
11:06:24Bagderthreads are not processes
11:06:55Bagderthat's why terminating threads is evil
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11:15:11dwihnoSo how am I supposed to do it?
11:21:37dwihnoPlease enlighten me Bagder
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11:44:08earHurtsI've uploaded corrected diff files for my ID3v2 patch; this allows new tags to be extracted by adding an element to an array.
11:45:15earHurtsIt adds freeform genre, freeform tracknum, freeform year, and composer.
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11:52:45Quelsarukof afternoon :)
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13:25:53fosheezyanyone in here?
13:26:09fosheezyI need some help..
13:26:31webmindshoot :)
13:26:51fosheezyYou know anything about Jukebox 6000?
13:28:06fosheezyWhen I turn it on and try to hook it up to my computer windows doesn't recognize it and I don't think that it would matter cause the Jukebox has a partition error on it
13:28:20fosheezyI just cannot get it to work
13:29:02webmindif u have a partition problem with your jukebox it is possible windows wouldn't recouldnize it as a drive
13:29:11webmindbut u do have the drivers installed ?
13:29:38fosheezyI haven't even messed with the Jukebox in months..
13:29:44fosheezyI just could never get it to work
13:29:52fosheezyI did install the drivers yes..
13:29:59fosheezyfrom the archos site about 2 months ago
13:30:07fosheezyit just wouldn't recognize it
13:31:06fosheezyi mean it would recognize a USB device, but there it wasn't working properly and there was never an icon to access it
13:31:32fosheezyI can't get an answer from Archos at all
13:31:41fosheezyI have emailed them 10 times
13:31:46fosheezynot one answer
13:33:35fosheezyyou there?
13:35:29fosheezyI have seen many people talk about it, but I have never seen a solution..
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13:38:53fosheezyHi Zagor
13:38:58fosheezycan I ask you a question
13:39:13fosheezyyou know anything about Jukebox 6000?
13:39:47fosheezyI have been trying to get mine fixed for months and can't get an answer from Archos
13:39:56fosheezyI have a partition error on my Jukebox
13:40:10fosheezywindows won't recognize so I can't format it..
13:40:14fosheezyI can't even get into it..
13:40:21fosheezyI don't even see an icon
13:40:51fosheezyhell yeah
13:40:53fosheezyso annoying
13:41:02Zagortried linux?
13:41:15fosheezyI have tried 3 different operating systems
13:41:23fosheezyXP,2000 and Windows 98
13:41:39fosheezyI can't find anything on the partition error online..
13:41:49fosheezyI find people that have had it, but no one that has a solution
13:41:59quel|outlunch time! cu later
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13:42:05Zagorsounds normal for windows problems... :-)
13:42:15fosheezyI think it might be the Jukebox..
13:42:17quel|lunchZagor: it's not really normal :P
13:42:28fosheezyYeah windows sucks
13:42:37fosheezyI just bought a SunBox..
13:42:43fosheezygonna try out Unix
13:42:47Zagorfosheezy: i'd find a friend with linux and see how it works there. then you'll know if it's windows or not.
13:43:01fosheezyso much trouble :)
13:43:21fosheezyI just want the freakin' thing to work
13:43:26Zagoryeah, but sending it back to archos is even more trouble
13:43:40fosheezythey won't even email me back
13:43:47fosheezy10 emails..
13:43:54fosheezysounds liek they are avoiding something :P
13:44:09Zagorno, their customer support just sucks.
13:46:50fosheezyI payed 300 dollars for it a year and a half ago and haven't been able to use it in a year alomst
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13:47:36fosheezyso no answers, huh? have you ever heard of it before? the partition error?
13:48:11Zagori might have, but it's not a frequent problem
13:48:28fosheezyprobably corrupt
13:48:38fosheezyand it has been too long to get anything in return
13:48:57Zagoryou can also take it apart and connect it to your computer with a 3.5->2.5 adapter
13:49:17fosheezywhat is that?
13:49:23fosheezyis that a USB adapter?
13:49:43Zagoran adapter to connect a 2.5" disk to a 3.5" cable such as the ones in your pc
13:50:01Zagorit's $5 or so
13:50:15fosheezyI know this sounds stupid, but I don't understand..
13:51:00Zagorif you open up your archos, remove the disk and insert it in your pc, you can probably repartition it there as a normal disk. no usb problems.
13:51:46fosheezyso that adapter will able it to connect inside like another hard drive?
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13:52:02fosheezythere's a little hope
13:52:42Zagorhi Bagder
13:52:53fosheezyi am just so frustrated Zagor
13:52:59fosheezytired of f'ing with it
13:53:06fosheezyjust want it to work :(
13:53:23fosheezywhere do you guys live at?
13:53:51fosheezyI live in Texas
13:54:22fosheezyif I take apart is it easy to get back together?
13:54:51Zagorrelatively. follow the instructions on the web page
13:55:09fosheezythe rockbox webpage?
13:55:43fosheezythanks alot
13:55:51fosheezyyou been more help than anyone else..
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14:41:17Bagderyeah ;-)
14:45:15BagderI can see his point though
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15:45:53Stevie[FP]ok then
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18:17:26hardeepwas readline ever added to the source? i see references to it in the irc logs but nothing in cvs
18:17:52Bagderread_line() in apps/misc.c
18:18:19hardeepaha! thanks
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18:44:44Quelsarukquick, get out of here Stevie[FP], tracktheripper is here!
18:44:58tracktheripperif u want ill leave quelsaruk
18:45:20Quelsarukoh, come on tracktheripper, i'm just joking, you know that
18:45:29tracktheripperok :D
18:45:43tracktheripperI was gonna ask "what does the jump-scroll option do"?
18:45:59Quelsarukdo you have a player or recorder?
18:46:13Quelsarukthen, this function is not for you :P
18:46:17Quelsarukbutm anyway
18:46:20tracktheripperbut what does it do anyway?
18:46:25Quelsarukfirst time you scroll a file
18:47:01Quelsarukyou see part of the text (the 11 characters you can see)
18:47:09Quelsarukand the next 11 chars
18:47:14tracktheripperoh right
18:47:15tracktheripperim with u
18:47:23tracktheripperso its steps every 11 characters
18:47:27Quelsarukand so on, until you get end of line :)
18:47:36tracktheripperwhy not have this for the Recorder?
18:47:51Quelsarukbecause recorders are cool?
18:48:01tracktheripperand i have a latest cool feature request
18:48:15*Quelsaruk fears tracktheripper and his requests
18:48:33tracktheripper"burn CDs on the fly with a USB external CD writer plugged into the Archo's USB port"
18:49:24tracktheripperdon't worry im not gonna file it as a request!
18:49:36Quelsarukyou're lucky zaggor is not here
18:52:25tracktheripperor "connect the archos to several PCs at once with a wireless USB router"
18:54:20tracktheripperwell tracktherippper is off in a minute quels
18:57:19tracktheripperwell at least im not grumpy like zagor, adiamas or bagder :D
18:57:31tracktheripperonly LinusN is cheerful :)
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19:46:48ricIIhi webmind
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19:47:41ricIIrockbox joy was short lived, broke my display :(
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20:11:23webmindricII, !
20:11:28webmindricII, heb je hd
20:11:36webmindfinally got a 40gigger
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20:56:39Quelsarukhardeep: talking again about queue function, queuing a directory is perfect :)
20:58:40hardeepQuelsaruk: cool, i just added that along with playlists
20:58:58Stevie[FP]how about the ability to do what Winamp does
20:59:03Stevie[FP]if you're in the middle of a playlist
20:59:16Stevie[FP]you can select a particular song and play that
20:59:38Stevie[FP]when it's done, Winamp will automatically go to whatever was supposed to be next in the playlist
20:59:52hardeepStevie[FP]: that's what queue does
20:59:58Stevie[FP]does it?
21:00:19Stevie[FP]so we need a 'default behavior is queue' option :P
21:00:31hardeepStevie[FP]: er, default behavior?
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21:24:18Stevie[FP]yeah, i hate pressing on+play
21:24:20Stevie[FP]it just doesn't feel right
21:25:47Quelsarukbagder wanted to remap the keys
21:28:59Quelsaruktime to go home...
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23:05:23tracktherippersorry about that
23:09:42tracktheripperwhats up all?
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23:36:15tracktheripperis anyone alive here?
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