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| 00:19:09 | RiESENHiRNi | i have a question about the remotecontrol & ajr20, play/pause + loudness-buttons move, but the skipbuttons dont, any help? |
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| 00:43:34 | RiESENHiRNi | i have tried yet the archosfirmware, with the archosrom works the remotecontrol! please can u fix that bug, i use the player in my car, and i need the remotecontrol! help please! |
| 00:44:27 | Tschechow | sehr passender nickname. |
| 00:44:46 | RiESENHiRNi | danke *g* |
| 00:45:07 | RiESENHiRNi | hast du nen tipp für mich warum mit rockbox die fernbedienung nicht mehr ganz geht? |
| 00:45:27 | Tschechow | nein. |
| 00:45:40 | Tschechow | downgrade auf andere firmware versucht? |
| 00:46:07 | RiESENHiRNi | ich verwende die bleeding edge, die wurde mir hier empfolen, soll ich mal die 2.0 testen? |
| 00:46:21 | Tschechow | ich habs mehrfach gesehen das die "fernbedienungen" sich schlicht abgenutzt haben und die lustigen metallkugelausschnitthochertigerschaltersimulationen verrutscht sind. |
| 00:46:53 | RiESENHiRNi | hey mann veräppel mioch nicht ich hatte das ding schon offen *g* |
| 00:47:17 | RiESENHiRNi | nee, mit der romfirmware von archos funzt sie wunderbar, nur mit rockbox nicht... :( |
| 00:47:56 | Tschechow | *shrug* ... keine ahnung, noch nicht probiert. |
| 00:48:06 | RiESENHiRNi | ich spiel mal schnell die 2.0 ein..mom |
| 00:50:25 | RiESENHiRNi | hurra, mit 2.0 gehts! :) sorry für die aufregung! *g* |
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| 01:01:18 | RiESENHiRNi | cya |
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| 03:59:29 | ricII | hardeep: got a patch against recent cvs, just curious,,, |
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| 05:38:26 | hardeep | ricII: yeah, http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/patches/dynamic_playlist_12.diff |
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| 06:03:51 | midknight2k3 | yayayaya |
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| 06:05:35 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 06:17:31 | earHurts | yaya |
| 06:18:01 | midknight2k3 | yoyo |
| 06:18:49 | earHurts | what's dynamic playlist? |
| 06:18:56 | midknight2k3 | who cares? |
| 06:19:00 | midknight2k3 | lol j/k i dunno |
| 06:19:48 | earHurts | sounds like a way to recursivelyn play directories −− if so I want it. |
| 06:19:58 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 06:20:08 | PsycoXul | you can recursively play directories |
| 06:20:36 | PsycoXul | go to the directory, select "create playlist" in the menu there, and play the resulting playlist |
| 06:20:39 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:21:16 | earHurts | yeah, but I'd like to cut out the middle nman |
| 06:21:27 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:21:35 | midknight2k3 | see |
| 06:21:37 | midknight2k3 | someone agress |
| 06:21:43 | midknight2k3 | that the playlist thign sugs |
| 06:21:46 | midknight2k3 | ACK |
| 06:21:56 | midknight2k3 | agress=agrees, sugs=sucks |
| 06:22:39 | earHurts | it doesn't suck, but it needs sonme more features. |
| 06:23:19 | midknight2k3 | hehehehe |
| 06:23:33 | earHurts | is this weekend a holiday in Europe? |
| 06:23:43 | midknight2k3 | uh |
| 06:23:44 | midknight2k3 | yers |
| 06:25:01 | earHurts | what holiday? |
| 06:25:12 | midknight2k3 | memory day |
| 06:26:16 | earHurts | in Europe? So Monday & Tuesday off? |
| 06:26:21 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 06:26:32 | midknight2k3 | just for me in seattle, monday off |
| 06:27:10 | earHurts | everyone knows europeans don't work mnuch :) |
| 06:34:08 | earHurts | anybody done any hardware mods? |
| 06:34:16 | midknight2k3 | not i |
| 06:34:17 | midknight2k3 | well |
| 06:34:32 | midknight2k3 | I cleaned the screen so i had to pop open the archos for that |
| 06:34:35 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 06:35:05 | earHurts | what model? |
| 06:35:18 | midknight2k3 | recorder - the only one to have (tm) |
| 06:35:20 | midknight2k3 | what one you got? |
| 06:35:57 | earHurts | fm - the only one to have :) |
| 06:36:06 | midknight2k3 | naw! |
| 06:36:13 | midknight2k3 | does it have a backlight? |
| 06:36:22 | earHurts | yeah |
| 06:36:33 | midknight2k3 | and the sceen is an LCD? |
| 06:36:44 | midknight2k3 | like a watch? |
| 06:36:50 | earHurts | yeah, it's njust like a recorder |
| 06:36:51 | midknight2k3 | with the grey background? |
| 06:37:09 | earHurts | gray/green |
| 06:37:16 | midknight2k3 | hm |
| 06:37:41 | earHurts | it's a recorder with an fm chip |
| 06:37:49 | midknight2k3 | WOW |
| 06:38:07 | earHurts | hmm? |
| 06:38:22 | midknight2k3 | i dont know |
| 06:38:25 | earHurts | well, not exactly |
| 06:38:29 | midknight2k3 | can you play games on it? |
| 06:38:40 | earHurts | it's got a LiON nbattery |
| 06:38:56 | earHurts | you mean the rockbox games? |
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| 06:39:00 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 06:39:16 | earHurts | sure |
| 06:39:22 | midknight2k3 | cooo |
| 06:40:06 | earHurts | so what do you mean you popped the screen? |
| 06:40:13 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 06:40:20 | midknight2k3 | i popped the cover, and cleaned the screen |
| 06:40:29 | midknight2k3 | it had a bunch of crud inside |
| 06:41:06 | earHurts | under the plastic but abnove the lcd? |
| 06:41:16 | midknight2k3 | sort of |
| 06:41:23 | midknight2k3 | on the lcd and under the screen cover |
| 06:41:32 | earHurts | yeah |
| 06:42:03 | earHurts | and the cover is a parrallelogram? |
| 06:42:12 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 06:42:18 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 06:42:25 | midknight2k3 | the top part that comes up is |
| 06:42:27 | midknight2k3 | one sec |
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| 06:46:12 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 06:46:19 | midknight2k3 | on the screen |
| 06:46:20 | midknight2k3 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/rec_iface_top.jpg |
| 06:46:30 | earHurts | yeah |
| 06:47:02 | midknight2k3 | and theres a plastic cover over the screen attached to the plastic cover on the recorder |
| 06:47:16 | midknight2k3 | between the screen and the plastic cover over the screen |
| 06:47:30 | midknight2k3 | plastic cover = what you see through when you look at the scree |
| 06:47:48 | earHurts | yeah, hang on |
| 06:48:02 | midknight2k3 | did you ever disassemble your archos? |
| 06:48:57 | earHurts | nope |
| 06:49:09 | midknight2k3 | crud lol |
| 06:49:23 | earHurts | crap, i ran out of nmemory trying to use that url |
| 06:49:40 | midknight2k3 | do it carefully like i am (so slick, yup) so that people wont know that you did it like bestbuy with the extended warranty |
| 06:49:55 | midknight2k3 | i used a steak knife and did it open/shut 3 times |
| 06:50:58 | earHurts | what did you do to remove the screen cover? |
| 06:51:06 | midknight2k3 | you don't have to |
| 06:51:19 | midknight2k3 | you unscrew the top 2 and bottom 2 screws |
| 06:51:24 | midknight2k3 | the front cover comes off |
| 06:51:27 | midknight2k3 | no warranty seals |
| 06:51:36 | midknight2k3 | if you do that not a SOUL will know |
| 06:53:06 | earHurts | the hex screws on the bumpers or the phillips on the top & bottonm? |
| 06:53:19 | midknight2k3 | phillips |
| 06:53:34 | midknight2k3 | the hex screws.. well that really gets deep into the machine |
| 06:53:49 | midknight2k3 | to get a cool look pop out the top and bottom philips ones... |
| 06:53:55 | midknight2k3 | and turn it on too |
| 06:54:08 | midknight2k3 | the backlight LEDs look cool |
| 06:54:13 | midknight2k3 | just of you wanted to open it |
| 06:55:21 | earHurts | see, I don't have top phillips; that's where the battery hatch is. |
| 06:55:29 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
| 06:55:36 | midknight2k3 | you gonna disassemble it? |
| 06:55:53 | earHurts | not yet. |
| 06:56:09 | midknight2k3 | okay hang a se |
| 06:56:11 | midknight2k3 | sec |
| 06:56:57 | midknight2k3 | hmm im not sure hang on more sec |
| 06:57:34 | earHurts | I'm goingn to wait untiln I replace the hdd. |
| 06:57:55 | midknight2k3 | with what? |
| 06:58:40 | earHurts | a 60 or an 80 |
| 06:58:46 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 06:58:50 | midknight2k3 | you got that much music? |
| 06:59:43 | earHurts | emusic.com |
| 07:00 |
| 07:00:19 | midknight2k3 | cool |
| 07:00:22 | earHurts | it's a good deal, bnut lately they've'limitedn downloads to 35 tracks at a time. |
| 07:01:00 | earHurts | sorry abot the "n"s, mny handheld has a bad "n" key. |
| 07:01:16 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 07:01:27 | midknight2k3 | i just realized |
| 07:01:51 | midknight2k3 | well i'd say just do the hex screws |
| 07:01:52 | earHurts | it triggers if merely nbrushed, and it's the tiny keys. |
| 07:01:59 | midknight2k3 | if you're replacing hdd then you have to |
| 07:02:06 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 07:02:31 | earHurts | I wannt to use the current archos hdd on the handheld. |
| 07:02:59 | midknight2k3 | start over |
| 07:03:03 | midknight2k3 | what now? |
| 07:04:05 | earHurts | I want to replace the archos hdd with a bigger one. |
| 07:04:22 | midknight2k3 | and the current will go where? |
| 07:04:33 | earHurts | I want to then use the archos hdd as storage for the handheld. |
| 07:04:39 | midknight2k3 | i see you're struggling getting rid of those extra Ns |
| 07:04:49 | midknight2k3 | dont worry about it |
| 07:04:57 | midknight2k3 | handheld? |
| 07:05:10 | earHurts | sharp zaurus 5600 |
| 07:05:30 | earHurts | at that price, the keyboard should nwork :) |
| 07:05:45 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 07:05:51 | midknight2k3 | so thats what youre typing on? |
| 07:06:12 | earHurts | yeah |
| 07:06:18 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 07:06:23 | midknight2k3 | wireless? |
| 07:06:33 | earHurts | yeah, wifi |
| 07:06:40 | midknight2k3 | whre are you then? |
| 07:06:55 | earHurts | it wifies to my pc. I'm at home. |
| 07:07:05 | midknight2k3 | how amazing |
| 07:07:15 | midknight2k3 | well it doesn't have a built in hard drive does it? |
| 07:07:21 | earHurts | took some trouble to set up |
| 07:07:31 | earHurts | it's got flash |
| 07:07:36 | midknight2k3 | so |
| 07:07:40 | midknight2k3 | how could you do this? |
| 07:07:42 | earHurts | you can add sd and cf cards |
| 07:07:50 | midknight2k3 | have the hard drive run through a compactflash adapter? |
| 07:08:08 | earHurts | make the hdd look like an sd card. not sure really. |
| 07:08:20 | midknight2k3 | hmmm |
| 07:08:27 | midknight2k3 | i doubt it's possible |
| 07:08:33 | earHurts | sd preferably. the wifi is cf. |
| 07:08:45 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 07:09:38 | midknight2k3 | i don't think it's possible |
| 07:09:41 | earHurts | probably not easy. maynbe I can get Linus to do it. :) |
| 07:09:47 | midknight2k3 | yeh |
| 07:09:53 | midknight2k3 | plus there's the power issue |
| 07:09:59 | earHurts | yep |
| 07:10:03 | midknight2k3 | i doubt you could supply it from your hadhelp |
| 07:10:34 | midknight2k3 | it it was possible you'd probably strap the hard drive to the back of the handhelp and strap a battery pack on that lol |
| 07:10:43 | earHurts | I'd want another power source. otoh, the archos runs off a Lion battery like the handheld's. |
| 07:11:05 | midknight2k3 | yeah but to supply the ahrd drive power and the handhelp is pushing it |
| 07:11:16 | midknight2k3 | plus the fact that it might not interface well |
| 07:11:33 | midknight2k3 | possible but not easily done |
| 07:12:21 | earHurts | yeah, I don't want to waste the drive. |
| 07:12:31 | midknight2k3 | Send it to me |
| 07:12:59 | earHurts | what hdd do you have? |
| 07:13:17 | midknight2k3 | I'll make sure it doesn't get HURT http://www.rickandrak.com/monstermonitordrop.mpg |
| 07:13:58 | earHurts | ha |
| 07:14:11 | midknight2k3 | what hdd do i have? |
| 07:14:17 | midknight2k3 | in the archos the standard one |
| 07:14:29 | earHurts | 20gb |
| 07:14:34 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 07:14:40 | midknight2k3 | i'd never need more |
| 07:15:38 | earHurts | yeah, so I thought too. emusic has a lot of good nstuff, esp. classical. |
| 07:18:01 | earHurts | you a rockbox coder? |
| 07:18:17 | midknight2k3 | no way |
| 07:18:29 | midknight2k3 | too young and too out-of-it |
| 07:19:13 | earHurts | modinnng it is fun. |
| 07:19:25 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 07:19:38 | midknight2k3 | i feel like doing something but not something hard like 8mb thing |
| 07:20:00 | earHurts | no, I mean nmoding the code. |
| 07:20:13 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 07:20:16 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 07:20:17 | midknight2k3 | dang n key |
| 07:20:24 | midknight2k3 | you can do that? |
| 07:20:31 | midknight2k3 | what have you done to it recently? |
| 07:21:44 | earHurts | I added freeform genre support and a composer tag. Patch 706111 |
| 07:22:24 | earHurts | and something to display filenames without a prefix |
| 07:23:06 | earHurts | www.diffenbach.org/rockbox/builds.html |
| 07:23:50 | midknight2k3 | neat |
| 07:23:54 | midknight2k3 | you good at coding |
| 07:24:00 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 07:25:00 | | Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@193.180.246.67) |
| 07:25:34 | earHurts | I think so. I'm more conmfortable with C++ than C. Rocknbox is coded in C. |
| 07:25:59 | midknight2k3 | could you do an ab repeat function? |
| 07:26:14 | earHurts | what's that? |
| 07:26:58 | dwihno | \o/ Monday \o/ |
| 07:27:02 | dwihno | I love mondays! ;-) |
| 07:27:08 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 07:27:56 | midknight2k3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=725390 |
| 07:27:59 | midknight2k3 | ab repeat |
| 07:28:09 | midknight2k3 | OH lol |
| 07:28:15 | midknight2k3 | didnt even explain it |
| 07:28:36 | midknight2k3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=676532 |
| 07:30:50 | earHurts | ok |
| 07:30:57 | midknight2k3 | possible? |
| 07:31:05 | earHurts | This is possible. |
| 07:31:45 | earHurts | But I'm not the one to do it. I don't know the mpeg code at all. |
| 07:31:58 | midknight2k3 | oh well |
| 07:32:04 | midknight2k3 | seems that's linuses job |
| 07:32:15 | midknight2k3 | seems also it won't happen soon |
| 07:32:28 | earHurts | would A nnd B always be in the same song? |
| 07:32:34 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 07:32:38 | midknight2k3 | you set it when you want |
| 07:33:01 | midknight2k3 | then when you're done you press the button againa nd the song continues whhere it left off |
| 07:33:23 | earHurts | explain it again? |
| 07:33:30 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 07:33:50 | midknight2k3 | You're playing a song, then there's a section of 15 seconds you want to repeat. |
| 07:33:58 | midknight2k3 | Between 3:35 and 3:50 |
| 07:34:12 | midknight2k3 | You press F3 at 3:35 and again at 3:50 |
| 07:34:23 | midknight2k3 | The 15 seconds loops over and over |
| 07:34:31 | midknight2k3 | when you're done you press F3 again |
| 07:34:44 | midknight2k3 | let's say at 3:49 |
| 07:35:04 | midknight2k3 | then the song goes 3:49, then 3:50 and so on (continues like normal) |
| 07:35:10 | | Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 07:35:13 | midknight2k3 | and all is the same |
| 07:35:16 | midknight2k3 | et it |
| 07:35:17 | midknight2k3 | get it |
| 07:35:35 | earHurts | so A and B are within the same song? |
| 07:35:42 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 07:35:58 | earHurts | hmmn |
| 07:36:07 | midknight2k3 | i thouht you meant earlier that can you only repeat one song ever |
| 07:36:09 | dwihno | \o/ Zagor \o/ |
| 07:36:23 | earHurts | yeah, understanable |
| 07:36:28 | midknight2k3 | \o/ Shut Up \o/ |
| 07:36:31 | midknight2k3 | just kidding :) |
| 07:36:57 | dwihno | :-( |
| 07:37:02 | midknight2k3 | just kidding! |
| 07:37:06 | dwihno | :~~~( |
| 07:37:06 | midknight2k3 | im sorry |
| 07:37:09 | midknight2k3 | SORRY! |
| 07:37:14 | dwihno | :-) |
| 07:37:20 | midknight2k3 | yeee! gleeee! |
| 07:38:10 | earHurts | is there an offset into the currently playing track that is NOT redet when the mpeg buffer wraps around? |
| 07:38:22 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 07:38:24 | earHurts | s/redet/reset |
| 07:38:45 | midknight2k3 | sorry i dont get it lol |
| 07:38:47 | earHurts | I'm asking Zagor or other coders. |
| 07:38:58 | midknight2k3 | not me? |
| 07:39:07 | midknight2k3 | he doesnt even know what were talking about |
| 07:39:12 | earHurts | Unless you know the answer. |
| 07:39:20 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 07:39:25 | earHurts | :) |
| 07:39:30 | Zagor | earHurts: i don't understand the question |
| 07:39:31 | midknight2k3 | offset? reset? buffer wraparound? |
| 07:39:35 | midknight2k3 | sorry man cant help |
| 07:39:54 | Zagor | what would it point to, when the buffer wraps? |
| 07:40:27 | earHurts | a frame counter that isn.t reset to zero when thw mpwg buffer is re-filled. |
| 07:40:55 | Zagor | no, we don't count frames |
| 07:40:58 | earHurts | it would be a counter, not a pointer. |
| 07:41:00 | Zagor | we count time |
| 07:41:10 | Zagor | id3->elapsed |
| 07:41:17 | dwihno | We can count sheep! :D |
| 07:41:20 | earHurts | ok, so a mnilliseconds accumulator? |
| 07:41:25 | Zagor | yes |
| 07:41:59 | dwihno | http://www.klitta.nu/k/images/sheepf.gif |
| 07:42:03 | earHurts | given long bar = id3- |
| 07:42:36 | midknight2k3 | me like sheep |
| 07:42:45 | dwihno | They are so fluffy! |
| 07:42:48 | earHurts | >elapsed ; could I seek to the frame at that time? |
| 07:43:27 | Zagor | earHurts: yes, that's how resume works |
| 07:44:23 | earHurts | thanks |
| 07:44:36 | dwihno | Zagor: How was your weekend? |
| 07:45:18 | earHurts | midk, this mnight be rather easier than I thoughr. But I still have 2 weeks of other work nbefore I can think about it. |
| 07:45:29 | Zagor | dwihno: very nice. i took a few days off hacking. |
| 07:45:48 | midknight2k3 | neat mr. earhurts |
| 07:45:56 | midknight2k3 | would be much appreciated thanks a lot |
| 07:46:05 | Zagor | earHurts, midknight2k3: what are you discussing? |
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| 07:46:15 | midknight2k3 | a-b repeat |
| 07:46:19 | earHurts | are you done being off? :) |
| 07:46:20 | Zagor | ah, ok |
| 07:46:40 | midknight2k3 | are you talking to me? |
| 07:47:06 | earHurts | no, to zagor. unless you cananswer for him. |
| 07:47:11 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 07:47:18 | midknight2k3 | id dint even realize what you meant |
| 07:47:40 | dwihno | Zagor: Ah. That's really nice! At this time of year, "it's good for you" to leave the hacking aside for a while :) |
| 07:47:58 | Zagor | earHurts: yes, for now at least. i'll probably take a few more days later though. it's good to relax a bit once in a while. |
| 07:48:02 | midknight2k3 | i just got an idea |
| 07:48:07 | midknight2k3 | for a rockbox demo |
| 07:48:09 | earHurts | holidays are the only time I have tohack. |
| 07:48:20 | midknight2k3 | virtual sheep... jumping over a fence. |
| 07:48:28 | earHurts | otherwise it's damned njava. |
| 07:49:24 | earHurts | I don't supposed anyone has read about my proposal for genlang? |
| 07:49:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:49:42 | midknight2k3 | i dont think so lol |
| 07:49:52 | Zagor | i haven't yet. it will take a few hours until i've gone through my mail. |
| 07:50:08 | earHurts | It stems from a discussion witj nbagder. |
| 07:50:31 | | Quit OneCluedCoder (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 07:51:54 | earHurts | basically, it allows mutiple strinngs to be grouped by one id. |
| 07:52:03 | midknight2k3 | i don't get it |
| 07:52:05 | midknight2k3 | evaluate. |
| 07:53:05 | earHurts | midk: it allows for more efficient and less tedious programming. Not visible to end users. |
| 07:53:35 | earHurts | except as smaller .ajz files. |
| 07:55:28 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 07:55:31 | midknight2k3 | end useres |
| 07:55:35 | midknight2k3 | i feel so ashamed |
| 07:57:39 | earHurts | crap. opera can't show all of a /. discussion, the mnod nbutton's at the bottonm, so I can't mod anyone up. |
| 07:57:59 | midknight2k3 | you use opera? |
| 07:58:02 | midknight2k3 | yeeeeeee |
| 07:58:10 | earHurts | on the handheld |
| 07:58:24 | earHurts | It's far from excellent. |
| 07:59:05 | earHurts | but I'nm soaking nmy feet in the tub and don't want to go to the pc. |
| 07:59:31 | midknight2k3 | yo yo yo yo..... |
| 07:59:35 | midknight2k3 | da da dum dum da dum |
| 08:00 |
| 08:00:33 | earHurts | zagor, you started Rockbox, right? |
| 08:00:48 | Zagor | yes |
| 08:00:51 | midknight2k3 | WOW! |
| 08:00:53 | midknight2k3 | My hero! |
| 08:00:58 | Zagor | :) |
| 08:01:10 | earHurts | It's very impressive. |
| 08:01:14 | midknight2k3 | tis |
| 08:01:21 | Zagor | thanks |
| 08:01:34 | midknight2k3 | thanks you |
| 08:01:58 | earHurts | How'd you get started, tracing code or hardware? |
| 08:02:36 | Zagor | both. it all started with cracking the firmware scrambling algorithm |
| 08:02:55 | earHurts | before you disassemnbled? |
| 08:03:08 | earHurts | the hardware I mean. |
| 08:03:40 | Zagor | no, first I took it apart and looked at the hardware. |
| 08:03:56 | Zagor | but I do that to every device I have. :-) |
| 08:04:11 | earHurts | so you knew thw chip and the opcodes to expect? |
| 08:04:16 | Zagor | yes |
| 08:04:50 | earHurts | had you previous experience with the sh1 chip? |
| 08:05:05 | Zagor | no, this is the first time i'm using it |
| 08:05:22 | Zagor | but it's not much different from other micro controllers |
| 08:05:28 | earHurts | so you read the sh1 manual? |
| 08:05:34 | Zagor | yup |
| 08:06:05 | earHurts | and? |
| 08:06:18 | Zagor | and what? |
| 08:06:32 | dwihno | mov ax, hello |
| 08:06:34 | dwihno | :-) |
| 08:07:01 | earHurts | how'd that help crack tnhe scranmbling? |
| 08:08:06 | Zagor | ah. well that let me get a picture of how the software would probably look. and it allowed me to verify which data was code or not. plus i found a nice disassembler that helped verify when the crack was successful |
| 08:08:56 | earHurts | the scrannble's security through onbscurity, or does it have a purpose? |
| 08:09:41 | Zagor | i see no other purpose than just obscurity. archos is paranoid about competitors ripping their stuff. |
| 08:10:14 | earHurts | heh. I wouldn't have bought it without rockbox. |
| 08:10:46 | Zagor | :-) |
| 08:10:55 | earHurts | And now I'm reluctant to nbuy anything I can't hack. |
| 08:11:38 | earHurts | Rockbnox is at least an order of nmagnitude faster for directory operations, |
| 08:12:04 | Zagor | than the archos firmware? |
| 08:12:14 | earHurts | and much better at most everything nby Lsubjectively) even more. |
| 08:12:29 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 08:12:34 | midknight2k3 | ANNOYING that N key |
| 08:12:39 | earHurts | I haven't timed it. That's how it feels though. |
| 08:13:14 | earHurts | oh, sorry, nmy handheld's got a hyper sensitive "n" key |
| 08:13:17 | Zagor | ok. i haven't used the original firmware in a long time, so I don't know how it feels... |
| 08:13:41 | earHurts | I've got an fm, so for radio I was rolo'ing |
| 08:13:49 | midknight2k3 | yuck |
| 08:14:07 | earHurts | not anymore, thanks to Linus. |
| 08:14:46 | earHurts | The archos font, too, is so anoying. No true descenders. |
| 08:15:02 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 08:15:04 | midknight2k3 | i hated it |
| 08:15:06 | midknight2k3 | hate hate hate |
| 08:15:11 | midknight2k3 | plus just everything about it |
| 08:15:53 | earHurts | oddly, the pc recognizes the archos faster when it's runing rockbox too |
| 08:16:19 | Zagor | hehe |
| 08:16:46 | midknight2k3 | gtg |
| 08:16:50 | midknight2k3 | see you all |
| 08:16:52 | earHurts | nbye |
| 08:16:57 | midknight2k3 | hahaha |
| 08:17:02 | midknight2k3 | nbye to yout oo |
| 08:17:16 | earHurts | must get handheld replaced |
| 08:17:20 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 08:17:24 | midknight2k3 | alright well nbye |
| 08:17:30 | | Quit midknight2k3 ("nbye!! -=SysReset 2.53=-") |
| 08:18:34 | earHurts | zagor, you plan ui changes for 2.1? |
| 08:19:12 | Zagor | earHurts: probably not for 2.1, but some time later. the roadmap says 2.2 |
| 08:19:41 | earHurts | what's planned? |
| 08:20:26 | Zagor | mainly cleaning up the quick-screens and making them more consistent. see bagder's proposal in the list. |
| 08:21:56 | earHurts | how,s work on a playlist browser coming? |
| 08:22:28 | Zagor | I don't know if anyone is working on that right now. |
| 08:24:41 | earHurts | how's it decided which patches become official? |
| 08:26:57 | Zagor | you mean merged in to cvs? |
| 08:27:39 | earHurts | yeah |
| 08:28:07 | Zagor | it's decided subectively by me, bagder and linus. |
| 08:28:33 | Zagor | the patch needs to be good and serve a useful purpose, basically |
| 08:29:22 | earHurts | so what about the people on the list writing, "I vote for..."? |
| 08:29:56 | Zagor | that doesn't mean anything except we then know there are people who like the feature |
| 08:30:10 | Zagor | it's not part of a voting system or anything |
| 08:31:52 | earHurts | do the three of you reach consensus easily? |
| 08:32:27 | Zagor | yes. we've been hacking together since the 80s so we tend to agree on most things |
| 08:34:06 | earHurts | and it's only you three who update cvs? |
| 08:34:41 | Zagor | no, several people have cvs write access. but we reserve the final say about new code/patches |
| 08:35:31 | dwihno | :-D |
| 08:35:37 | * | dwihno actually got a patch applied! ;-.) |
| 08:35:48 | dwihno | Thanks to Linus for expert tips and guidance |
| 08:35:54 | earHurts | which dwihno? |
| 08:36:09 | dwihno | earHurts: inverted cursor (yay!) |
| 08:36:57 | earHurts | oh, thanks, that is very nice. |
| 08:37:35 | dwihno | It's a nice feature. So are the rest of the firmware ninja tricks. |
| 08:37:48 | dwihno | Every once in a while, I use the Archos firmware to see how much Rockbox has evovled. |
| 08:37:54 | earHurts | ninja tricks? |
| 08:39:02 | earHurts | yes going nback to archos is like level 16 (or whatever) in nethack with tiles. |
| 08:39:47 | earHurts | Oh Zagor, could I ask you a favor? |
| 08:39:52 | Zagor | sure |
| 08:39:54 | dwihno | Ninja tricks, such as configurable WPS, scroll speed settings etc. etc. etc. |
| 08:39:58 | dwihno | Ninja tricks (tm( |
| 08:41:18 | earHurts | My email names me as TP Diffenbach, for privacy reasons; I wonder if in your digest you might spell it out as "Thomas Paul Diffenbach"? |
| 08:41:43 | Zagor | bagder does the digest, but i'll tell him |
| 08:41:51 | dwihno | Diffenbach? It's you! :D |
| 08:41:58 | dwihno | I've read your mails! ;D |
| 08:42:02 | earHurts | oh dwihno, me? |
| 08:42:18 | dwihno | Ya :D |
| 08:42:35 | earHurts | Yes, but I'm even less articulate in person. |
| 08:42:53 | earHurts | Thanks, Zagor |
| 08:43:03 | Zagor | you would probably be recognized by more people if you had irc nick 'diffenbach' or something :-) |
| 08:43:20 | Zagor | then again, i should not complain... :-) |
| 08:43:46 | earHurts | yes, but when I downloaded this client, I was in extreme pain from an ear infection. |
| 08:43:52 | Zagor | haha |
| 08:44:11 | earHurts | worse pain than a heart attack. |
| 08:44:14 | dwihno | :( |
| 08:44:24 | Zagor | ouch |
| 08:45:15 | earHurts | heart attack's bad, but you don't scream in pain. |
| 08:46:19 | Zagor | are you better now? |
| 08:46:25 | earHurts | anyway, I'll change it when the ear clears up. |
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| 08:46:35 | Zagor | yo bagder! |
| 08:46:39 | Zagor | <earHurts> My email names me as TP Diffenbach, for privacy reasons; I wonder if in your digest you might spell it out as "Thomas Paul Diffenbach"? |
| 08:46:40 | Bagder | morning |
| 08:46:43 | Bagder | I noticed |
| 08:46:46 | Bagder | I've fixed |
| 08:46:47 | Zagor | ok, good |
| 08:46:53 | earHurts | nbetter, not great. |
| 08:47:01 | earHurts | oh, thanks. |
| 08:47:32 | earHurts | in case any ex gfs google me. :) |
| 08:47:45 | Bagder | hehe |
| 08:47:49 | Zagor | btw, what's the name of that program that adjusts the volume level of mp3s? |
| 08:48:08 | Bagder | we should have a "good mp3 tools" page |
| 08:48:16 | Zagor | yes |
| 08:48:20 | Bagder | Zagor: "gain" something ;-) |
| 08:48:44 | Zagor | ah, mp3gain |
| 08:48:49 | earHurts | I have nno idea, nbut mp3 is a great tag editor, and the programmer is very nice about requests |
| 08:49:15 | earHurts | MP3BookHelper |
| 08:49:53 | earHurts | nbnagder, you recall our convo abnout the lang ids? |
| 08:50:01 | Bagder | yes |
| 08:50:34 | earHurts | I've made a genlang that does sorta what we spoke about. |
| 08:51:08 | Bagder | so what does it do if someone removes an entry that is supposed to be in a list? |
| 08:51:17 | Bagder | or "blanks" it |
| 08:51:32 | earHurts | from a translation or fronm the english? |
| 08:51:53 | Bagder | from the english one. Let's say one of the entries doesn't make sense anymore |
| 08:52:08 | earHurts | then it goesn away. |
| 08:52:31 | earHurts | just like remving an id does today |
| 08:52:32 | Bagder | doesn't that break binary compatibility with the older lang files? |
| 08:52:39 | Bagder | well today we don't remove theme |
| 08:52:45 | Bagder | we only set them "" |
| 08:52:49 | earHurts | it does nbreak it. |
| 08:54:51 | Zagor | wee mp3gain even comes with source. nice! |
| 08:54:57 | earHurts | we'd also set removed "" in groups |
| 08:56:03 | Bagder | so each time a list entry is removed, we need to bump the language version number |
| 08:56:26 | earHurts | or set it to "" |
| 08:56:52 | Bagder | but if "" works, then you'll get a gap in the list, which I thought you didn't want? |
| 08:56:57 | earHurts | again, as with ids today. |
| 08:57:31 | earHurts | that,s not a gap, "" is a real string. it's just very uninformative. |
| 08:58:04 | Bagder | yes, but you hardly want that in the list |
| 08:58:20 | Bagder | today, we remove the use of that entry from the code at the same time |
| 08:58:44 | Bagder | but with the list-concept, we were supposed to remove the use of specific ids all over |
| 08:59:14 | Bagder | this is a tricky problem |
| 08:59:18 | earHurts | if we remove a list element, the defines changes too. if sonmebody loaded a lang with the now extra elemnnt, we'd ignore it. |
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| 09:00:30 | Bagder | how do we ignore it? |
| 09:01:13 | earHurts | when we load a lang dynamically,n we replace the english strings with the lang file's, yes? |
| 09:01:21 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:01:44 | Bagder | let me do an example |
| 09:01:56 | Bagder | we make a list for "noise-level" |
| 09:02:05 | earHurts | If the loaded file had extra elements, we'd either load only the first +, or just ignore that translation. |
| 09:02:19 | Bagder | The list has these entries: "little", "more", "quite a lot" and "lots" |
| 09:02:25 | earHurts | s/+/N |
| 09:02:31 | earHurts | ok |
| 09:02:47 | Bagder | then, we figure out that "quite a lot" doesn't work so we blank it in the english file |
| 09:03:04 | Bagder | how will that work with the translated files that have the string present? |
| 09:03:08 | earHurts | no, we remove it. |
| 09:03:23 | Bagder | so how do we keep up the ids properly when it is removed? |
| 09:03:47 | earHurts | the ids are generated for a list |
| 09:04:29 | Bagder | I think I might understand more if I got to see your approach ;-) |
| 09:05:03 | earHurts | see my mail to the list, or the genlang at: |
| 09:05:27 | earHurts | www.diffenbach.org/rockbox/genlang |
| 09:05:44 | Bagder | ah, didn't see your posting |
| 09:06:02 | Bagder | (big mail server change during the weekend here, chaos all over) |
| 09:06:26 | earHurts | ah. |
| 09:07:21 | earHurts | basically, for a list we make the id the given id + a numnber starting at zero. |
| 09:08:18 | Bagder | a question then |
| 09:08:26 | earHurts | yes? |
| 09:08:34 | Bagder | why is the number of entries in a list a define, shouldn't it be a stored value in the file? |
| 09:08:58 | Bagder | ok, I see why |
| 09:09:12 | Bagder | but I can't see how it will work when the list have different sizes in different files |
| 09:09:21 | earHurts | I was thinking of int foo[]={1,2,3} ; |
| 09:09:54 | earHurts | the english list controls the ciunt. |
| 09:10:01 | earHurts | count |
| 09:12:33 | earHurts | ack! nbattery dying. |
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| 09:20:08 | Bagder | morning mats |
| 09:20:50 | matsl | morning bagder |
| 09:21:27 | Zagor | anyone know an mp3 cutting program for linux? |
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| 09:22:16 | EGM92 | Hello everyone!! |
| 09:22:36 | EGM92 | anyone around? |
| 09:22:41 | EGM92 | v |
| 09:22:41 | EGM92 | v |
| 09:22:41 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK EGM92 |
| 09:22:41 | EGM92 | v |
| 09:22:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 09:22:41 | EGM92 | v |
| 09:22:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 09:22:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 09:22:41 | EGM92 | v |
| 09:22:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 09:22:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 09:22:41 | EGM92 | v |
| 09:22:47 | Bagder | cut it out |
| 09:22:49 | earHurts | argh |
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| 09:23:29 | egm92 | sorry something screwed up |
| 09:23:58 | earHurts | did you stutter? :) |
| 09:24:03 | egm92 | Hey are there any other archos firmware developers? |
| 09:24:13 | egm92 | no keyboard keys got stuck |
| 09:24:18 | Bagder | no, only rockbox developers ;-) |
| 09:24:31 | egm92 | :) |
| 09:24:35 | earHurts | www.archos.com/layoffs |
| 09:25:01 | egm92 | u guys don't by any chance make Multimedia 20 firmware? |
| 09:25:11 | earHurts | nope |
| 09:25:29 | egm92 | damn |
| 09:25:44 | earHurts | i.ve heard rumors of such a project |
| 09:25:46 | Bagder | the multimedia is doomed |
| 09:25:51 | Bagder | there is one |
| 09:26:02 | Bagder | but they do have quite a bit left to work... |
| 09:26:11 | earHurts | doomed? |
| 09:26:18 | Bagder | well, perhaps not doomed ;-) |
| 09:26:29 | Bagder | but I doubt they'll ever get a custom firmware |
| 09:26:42 | earHurts | why? |
| 09:26:54 | Bagder | its just too damned hard on that box |
| 09:27:22 | egm92 | I just want to know... if I do get into making my own firmware would it be possible to pdate it in such a way it would recognize other kinds of format? |
| 09:27:36 | Bagder | on the multimedia? |
| 09:28:05 | Bagder | go here and check: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JBMMFirmware |
| 09:28:08 | egm92 | yes, The Divx drivers are old and I when ever i encode a video i don't get sound put the picture shows i just want to make it work |
| 09:28:10 | earHurts | i'd prefer to attach a hdd to a handheld. |
| 09:28:58 | earHurts | bigger screen |
| 09:29:09 | dwihno | Or perhaps just use a cheap laptop :-) |
| 09:30:21 | egm92 | LOL |
| 09:30:32 | dwihno | I sometimes curse my laptop. The PCMCIA slots are so badly positioned! :( |
| 09:30:33 | egm92 | does anyone here live in the USA? |
| 09:30:50 | earHurts | me |
| 09:31:26 | egm92 | may i have ur postal code please? I just need one cause yahoo won't let me make an account with out one |
| 09:31:37 | Bagder | haha |
| 09:31:45 | Bagder | chose another country |
| 09:31:58 | earHurts | sure, 90210 |
| 09:32:01 | dwihno | :-) |
| 09:32:23 | dwihno | Write "Brandon Walsh" in the name information ;-) |
| 09:32:30 | earHurts | always lie when asked for stuff like that |
| 09:32:41 | dwihno | "Hi, I'm 37 years old and play an 18 year old highschool kid" |
| 09:32:42 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 09:32:51 | egm92 | lol its hard i put in random numbers and wont work |
| 09:32:53 | earHurts | else marketers will have your balls |
| 09:33:14 | earHurts | use 20055 |
| 09:34:54 | earHurts | drugstore wants nmy birthdate as tnheir database's prinmary key, oh for satan |
| 09:36:18 | egm92 | so no plans on rockbox making a FW for the multimedia player? |
| 09:36:36 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/nodo.html#7 |
| 09:37:01 | egm92 | dam |
| 09:37:13 | earHurts | you must complain to archos. |
| 09:37:40 | egm92 | MOST OF THEM R DUTCH!!! HAVE U EVER SPOKE TO A DUTCH MAN?! |
| 09:38:01 | Bagder | they're french |
| 09:38:26 | egm92 | I've talked to their dutch tech support once lol |
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| 09:38:49 | earHurts | you nmean "freedom", not french. :) |
| 09:39:04 | egm92 | right |
| 09:39:39 | dwihno | egm92: They are smeetfrees:es, all of 'em ;-) |
| 09:40:01 | Bagder | oh |
| 09:40:03 | Bagder | thunder here |
| 09:40:24 | dwihno | Scary! :( |
| 09:40:33 | Zagor | yeah, everything went dark! :-) |
| 09:40:34 | earHurts | ah, thunder. I have sonme thunder mp3s. |
| 09:40:36 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 09:40:36 | * | dwihno hands Bagder the almighty comfortable blanket of might |
| 09:40:58 | dwihno | Zagor: You guys are sitting in Kista? :-) |
| 09:41:02 | earHurts | when it thunders, play wagner |
| 09:41:05 | dwihno | Also known as "no powe today" |
| 09:41:11 | Zagor | dwihno: nope, i'm at home |
| 09:41:22 | Bagder | home sweet home |
| 09:41:26 | Zagor | kista is "brownout central" |
| 09:41:33 | egm92 | huh |
| 09:41:39 | * | earHurts has the complete Ring Cycle on the archos. |
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| 09:45:59 | Bagder | gah |
| 09:46:03 | Bagder | its close now |
| 09:46:09 | Bagder | loud |
| 09:46:23 | earHurts | sweet! |
| 09:49:30 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:50:52 | Zagor | unusually massive thunder |
| 09:51:02 | Zagor | lots of alarms going off here :-) |
| 09:51:10 | Bagder | hehe |
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| 10:02:27 | Bagder | I saw reloaded this weekend |
| 10:02:38 | Zagor | ah, was it fun? |
| 10:02:46 | Bagder | it was in fact better than I thought |
| 10:03:01 | Bagder | annoying ending though |
| 10:03:09 | Bagder | "To Be Continued" style |
| 10:03:37 | Bagder | the logical flaws in the story are about as many as in the first part |
| 10:06:31 | Zagor | ok |
| 10:06:44 | Zagor | i'll go see it some day this week, i think |
| 10:06:57 | Bagder | lots of slowmo, LOTS of explosions, LOTS of fights |
| 10:07:16 | hardeep | very dull fights imo |
| 10:07:27 | Bagder | yeah, they get a bit repetitive by the time |
| 10:07:51 | hardeep | they need to give up on that bullet time stuff, it was new in the first but just extended the fight scenes unnecessarily in the second |
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| 11:12:49 | Quelsaruk | morning |
| 11:13:00 | Bagder | hi |
| 11:13:02 | * | Quelsaruk fears, badger is op... |
| 11:13:12 | Mode | "#rockbox -o Bagder " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 11:13:15 | Quelsaruk | i promise i'm inocent |
| 11:13:19 | Quelsaruk | ;) |
| 11:13:20 | Bagder | :-) |
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| 11:17:31 | Kuji_ | hi badger |
| 11:17:37 | Bagder | hi |
| 11:18:05 | Kuji_ | Can someone tell me something about recording.. I have tried this over and over (as you know) and lately it has been fuckign up really bad... let me explain |
| 11:18:37 | Kuji_ | a 60 min recording, will play for 12 mins or so and then crash −− why.. well examining the file, most fixer apps say that the mpeg layers are mixed |
| 11:18:58 | Kuji_ | the last part of the recording seems ok, but some 80000 frames listed as bad |
| 11:19:29 | Kuji_ | vbr fix just chops the file at 12mins or so |
| 11:19:38 | Kuji_ | I havent tried the indep frames yet.. |
| 11:19:43 | Kuji_ | thats the next task |
| 11:19:52 | Zagor | Kuji_: define "crash" |
| 11:20:09 | Kuji_ | Well winamp, media player, real all crash when they reach that point.. |
| 11:20:24 | Bagder | you mean they stop? |
| 11:20:25 | Kuji_ | should have said playing file back on pc |
| 11:21:03 | Kuji_ | well, the file sometimes stops, the winamp box goes white and occasionally the file speeds up slows down garbles and then it all stops |
| 11:21:19 | Kuji_ | the playing app will just hang |
| 11:21:34 | Kuji_ | trying to view file in wavelab or soundforge makes them bomb out |
| 11:21:56 | Kuji_ | easycdda bombs out, prog closes |
| 11:22:12 | Kuji_ | it say contains multiple mpeg versions |
| 11:22:19 | Kuji_ | in other progs |
| 11:22:40 | Kuji_ | its almost like its mp3 stereo, then mp3 mono, mp2 stereo, mp3 stereo etc... |
| 11:22:43 | Zagor | sounds like an excellent test file for those apps ;) |
| 11:22:46 | Kuji_ | not sure what the hell is going on.. |
| 11:23:11 | Kuji_ | have a file (80mb) if you want to look at it |
| 11:23:42 | | Nick Kuji_ is now known as kuji (~kuji@cuji.gotadsl.co.uk) |
| 11:23:48 | Zagor | Linus is "da man" for this type of recording intricacies |
| 11:24:00 | Zagor | i'm only responsible for the -114 panic ;) |
| 11:24:03 | kuji | hehe |
| 11:24:08 | Bagder | AKA Linus "recording guru" Felzting |
| 11:24:14 | kuji | why do I get the odd ones... |
| 11:24:14 | kuji | hehe |
| 11:24:35 | kuji | !seen linus |
| 11:24:44 | kuji | logbot seen linus |
| 11:24:44 | #>> | "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 11:24:45 | #>> | "seen" used by Quelsaruk (swordmaste@faerun.ugr.es) [snoop prevented] |
| 11:24:48 | Quelsaruk | :P |
| 11:24:55 | kuji | heh |
| 11:24:56 | Quelsaruk | zagor, same second |
| 11:24:59 | Zagor | :) |
| 11:25:01 | Quelsaruk | ;) |
| 11:25:03 | kuji | snap |
| 11:25:30 | | Nick Quelsaruk is now known as quel|meeting (swordmaste@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 11:26:13 | kuji | ok cool, I will wait till I find him.. |
| 11:26:33 | kuji | is there any space I can upload this file ready for him. |
| 11:26:41 | Bagder | you could write down all the details in a mail and post it to the mailing list |
| 11:26:46 | kuji | yeah I will. |
| 11:27:16 | kuji | hows it going anyway |
| 11:27:23 | kuji | public holiday today |
| 11:27:38 | Zagor | it is? |
| 11:28:01 | earHurts | Memorial Day in the US |
| 11:28:06 | Zagor | ah |
| 11:28:21 | earHurts | honors fallen in war |
| 11:28:40 | Zagor | excellent time for playing some Battlefield 1942 then ;) |
| 11:28:45 | kuji | bank holiday here in uk |
| 11:28:47 | earHurts | marks beginning of summer |
| 11:28:48 | kuji | no reason |
| 11:28:50 | kuji | heh |
| 11:31:30 | Bagder | bbl |
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| 11:31:50 | earHurts | somebody /msg me, please? |
| 11:32:58 | earHurts | what's the command to end a nmsg session? |
| 11:33:35 | earHurts | ah, /close |
| 11:33:48 | earHurts | thanks |
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| 11:48:14 | hardeep | blah, didn't realize the ata code had a yield() in it |
| 11:48:50 | hardeep | i've been tracking down a bug since friday that was due to that |
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| 11:49:48 | dwihno | red led death? |
| 11:49:59 | hardeep | no, a bug in something i'm working on |
| 11:52:22 | Hes | Hm, the thunderstorm seems to be coming this way. http://tutka.vip.fi/index.html |
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| 12:30:14 | tracktheripper | morning! |
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| 13:15:08 | Zagor | yay, hes, i just noticed you write bchunk! :-) |
| 13:15:11 | Zagor | wrote |
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| 14:14:57 | ricII | rockobox srill headless, maybe I sould ask archos if they could send a recorder lcd. |
| 14:16:04 | Zagor | asking can't hurt |
| 14:16:21 | Zagor | but that one is a standard part. you can probably get it elsewhere. |
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| 14:21:03 | Hes | Zagor: that's an surprisingly widely used small little trivial tool 8-) |
| 14:21:20 | Zagor | Hes: trivial but very useful. |
| 14:22:07 | Hes | Been using it for long? |
| 14:22:41 | ricII | Zagor: googling didn't bring much. |
| 14:23:31 | Zagor | it's one of those tools i find myself needing every few months, and always think "didn't I find something that did this?" and spend 10 minutes googling for it before I realize it's already installed in my box :) |
| 14:24:03 | webmind | ricII, ! |
| 14:24:09 | webmind | ricII, your hd is @ vt100 |
| 14:24:12 | webmind | (so am i btw) |
| 14:24:20 | Hes | Heh. |
| 14:25:41 | ricII | webmind: maybe I drop by later on the day |
| 14:27:17 | webmind | k cewl |
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| 15:06:10 | Zagor | /reboot |
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| 15:31:52 | tracktheripper | afternoon |
| 15:32:02 | Bagder | hi |
| 15:32:08 | tracktheripper | hi Bagder |
| 15:32:51 | tracktheripper | wots up? |
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| 16:35:55 | elinenbe | brb |
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| 16:43:03 | BoD[] | hi ! |
| 16:51:25 | elinenbe | ricII: hello |
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| 17:08:31 | DAA75 | Hi... I'm looking to buy an archos product. Which one do you suggest I get? |
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| 17:08:56 | webmind | uhm |
| 17:09:03 | quel|meeting | Recorder |
| 17:09:04 | webmind | impatiant |
| 17:09:05 | quel|meeting | :) |
| 17:09:08 | quel|meeting | recorder 20 |
| 17:09:41 | webmind | uhuh |
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| 17:12:19 | LordHades4 | Hi. I'm looking to buy an Archos MP3 player. Which one do you suggest I get? |
| 17:13:51 | LordHades4 | Hey.. anyone out there?!?! |
| 17:14:19 | webmind | LordHades4, sure |
| 17:14:22 | webmind | LordHades4, recorder 20 |
| 17:14:37 | LordHades4 | thanks |
| 17:14:57 | LordHades4 | i was debating wether the fm recorder 20 or just the recorder 20 |
| 17:15:36 | LordHades4 | but the recorder 20 is better? |
| 17:15:44 | webmind | well unless u really like the fm function i dont see the use |
| 17:16:15 | LordHades4 | i kind of do, but i've read reviews that said the reception was crappy |
| 17:16:49 | webmind | personally i wouldn't care..why listen to radio when u got 20 (in my case 40) gigs of mp3's ? |
| 17:17:10 | LordHades4 | true... |
| 17:17:32 | LordHades4 | is the fm alot more expensive than the regular 20? |
| 17:17:42 | webmind | wouldn't know.. depends on the shop i think? |
| 17:17:58 | LordHades4 | ok |
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| 18:36:29 | * | Stevie-O yawns |
| 18:47:30 | Stevie-O | anybody here have the 8mb mod? |
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| 18:53:57 | dhd | Hi ! |
| 18:54:03 | jzoss | hola |
| 18:54:04 | dhd | Is there someone online? |
| 18:54:07 | dhd | ahh |
| 18:54:08 | dhd | ;) |
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| 18:55:46 | midknight2k3 | I got it! I got an idea. |
| 18:55:55 | jzoss | ?? what is it? |
| 18:56:09 | midknight2k3 | for the file limit |
| 18:56:21 | midknight2k3 | how you have to have a disk spinup and reboot to take effect |
| 18:56:29 | jzoss | right |
| 18:57:07 | midknight2k3 | When you change it, then a prompt should come up saying, "Apply settings now?" and if you press YES <play> then it spins up, and reboots or NO <any other key> then it exits the menu |
| 18:58:11 | jzoss | I guess that'd be a little more convenient for the initial setup, but I don't see changing that setting often... do you? |
| 18:58:24 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 18:58:30 | midknight2k3 | but when you have to it would help a lot |
| 18:58:40 | jzoss | right. And easy (enough) to implement |
| 18:58:43 | midknight2k3 | wouldn't take much code I don't think |
| 18:58:57 | midknight2k3 | just simply disk spinup then reboot |
| 18:59:01 | midknight2k3 | or, exit |
| 18:59:43 | elinenbe | jzoss: did you see hardeeps new insert/queue code? |
| 18:59:54 | elinenbe | jzoss: sorry wrong person. |
| 18:59:58 | jzoss | I heard him talking about it, but haven't looked at it. =) |
| 18:59:59 | jzoss | hehe |
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| 19:00:15 | elinenbe | jzoss: are you working on anything behind the scenes right now? |
| 19:00:33 | jzoss | My sister's graduation is sucking up every free weekend I have. lol |
| 19:00:42 | jzoss | Too much partying and relative-visiting and all the rest |
| 19:00:57 | jzoss | But, yah, I'm still tweaking the id3edit patch. |
| 19:01:08 | jzoss | And have a few other things on a list somewhere to start when I finish that |
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| 19:02:57 | midknight2k3 | be right back |
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| 19:58:11 | elinenbe | later. |
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| 20:33:52 | Scorp | damn it people, does anyone wnat to buy a jb studio 20? |
| 20:44:43 | hardeep | ebay |
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| 20:47:16 | tracktheripper | hello |
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| 21:04:05 | Stevie-O | hola |
| 21:04:11 | Stevie-O | anybody here have an 8mb rockbox? |
| 21:15:22 | Stevie-O | jukebox even |
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| 21:40:54 | quelsaruk | must go |
| 21:40:54 | quelsaruk | cu! |
| 21:41:11 | quelsaruk | Stevie-O: thebreaker has one |
| 21:41:13 | quelsaruk | i think |
| 21:41:14 | quelsaruk | :) |
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| 21:42:31 | Stevie-O | who? |
| 21:44:21 | Stevie-O | ... |
| 21:45:08 | Stevie-O | right. |
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| 22:01:04 | Galik | Hi |
| 22:01:58 | Galik | I trying to mount my archos in dosemu under Linux. Any1 got any experience of this cos I stuck :,( |
| 22:03:21 | Yeft | lol my archos went KA-BOOM last week... |
| 22:03:42 | hardeep | Galik: why use dosemu? you can mount it directly... |
| 22:04:06 | Galik | hardeep: I know but I want to format it. I don't have Windows :) |
| 22:04:18 | Stevie-O | is there no fatfs? |
| 22:04:19 | Stevie-O | er |
| 22:04:21 | Stevie-O | mkfatfs |
| 22:05:18 | Galik | Stevie-0: Thnx i'll look for that. How about a scandisk for Linux; do you know of one? |
| 22:05:23 | hardeep | or mkfs.vfat |
| 22:06:08 | Galik | hardeep: I don't seem to have mkfs.vfat on my system. What package does it belong to? |
| 22:06:09 | Stevie-O | probably some form of vfatfsck |
| 22:06:45 | Galik | I have fsck for several file systems but not vfat it seems |
| 22:06:48 | Stevie-O | ftp://bmrc.berkeley.edu/pub/linux/fat32/mkdosfs-0.4.1.tar.gz |
| 22:06:55 | hardeep | fsck.fat32 ? |
| 22:07:13 | Galik | fsck fsck.ext2 fsck.minix |
| 22:07:13 | Galik | fsck.cramfs fsck.ext3 fsck.reiserfs |
| 22:07:16 | Galik | only these |
| 22:07:27 | hardeep | oh, dosfsck |
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| 22:08:42 | Galik | no. no dosfsck either. I seem to have an incomplete fsck install |
| 22:08:58 | Stevie-O | normally the fsck comes with the fs utils |
| 22:09:05 | Galik | Stevie-0: Thnx 4 link I'll try that |
| 22:13:23 | Galik | Ahh. I found it. dosfstools! Thnx all 4 ur help :) |
| 22:13:49 | Stevie-O | aha |
| 22:14:15 | Galik | Is archos vfat or msdos? |
| 22:14:38 | Stevie-O | ... it's fat32 |
| 22:15:32 | Galik | hmmm my choices are msdos or vfat.... |
| 22:17:36 | Galik | Well vfat says it's fixed the disk. I wonder if it still works.... |
| 22:21:18 | hardeep | Galik: use vfat, but make sure you specify 32 bits (-F 32) |
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| 22:24:03 | zamez | hi, is the script which generates the 'Recent CVS activity' available anywhere? I can't find it in cvs. thanks |
| 22:25:46 | Galik | hardeep: A bit late I was very eager but I will do in future. vfat seems to have worked well. My corruptions seem to have gone. |
| 22:25:47 | hardeep | zamez: Bagder and Zagor are the people to ask but if it's anywhere it's probably under the www directory in cvs |
| 22:26:20 | zamez | thanks, I looked there, but couldn't find it |
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| 22:30:32 | Galik | thnx all. cu :) |
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| 22:35:15 | tracktheripper | hello |
| 22:35:16 | tracktheripper | :) |
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| 23:28:51 | elinenbe | hardeep: any new info on the append/insert patch? |
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| 23:37:56 | | Quit [IDC]Dragon ("Leaving") |
| 23:43:24 | | Quit awy[baer] (Remote closed the connection) |
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