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#rockbox log for 2003-06-05

00:03:08^gizz^bagder, do you know if anyone tried to use a CF hdd in an archos ?
00:03:27BagderI don't know
00:04:16^gizz^I wanted to test this, but I only have 8MB of them...
00:04:43^gizz^seems to be to small for a FAT32 partition
00:05:52Bagdernot much for many mp3 files, but a fat32 partition surely fits
00:08:14tracktheripperso would an ntfs partition
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00:14:58tracktheripperhello daniels
00:15:22tracktheripperu alright?
00:15:34daniel82sure :)
00:16:14tracktheripperwhat Archos machine do u posess?
00:16:32Stevie[FP]my Archos machine was possessed by a demon
00:16:37Stevie[FP]I had to call in a catholic priest
00:16:45*tracktheripper whacks Stevie on the head
00:16:52Stevie[FP]but then he went after my little brother
00:16:56#>>"explain quelsaruk" by Bagder (
00:17:11daniel82an upgraded 6000 Player
00:17:23Stevie[FP]our QA person here at work had a sign
00:17:23tracktheripperi have a Recorder 10
00:17:34tracktherippercomplete with dent where I dropped it
00:17:56Stevie[FP]'It may be at times necessary to sacrifice a goat to ensure proper system operation.'
00:18:01Stevie[FP]there was more, but I forget the rest
00:18:29BagderStevie[FP]: was he spanish? ;*]
00:18:41Stevie[FP]no, she is not
00:18:56daniel82i'm currently looking for a tool that automatically starts the sync software whenever i connect my jukebox
00:19:15daniel82does anybody know such a tool?
00:19:19Stevie[FP]you can exploit autorun for that purpose
00:19:57daniel82autorun doesn't work on removable disks..
00:20:01daniel82or am i wrong?
00:20:30daniel82at least it didn't work for me on xp
00:20:42Stevie[FP]someone mailed the list about that
00:20:46Stevie[FP]but I g2g
00:20:48*Stevie[FP] is away [gawn] [KS-MsgLog Off]
00:21:32daniel82i know someone once posted a link to a software that does exactly that
00:21:42daniel82but i can't find the message
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00:24:54tracktheripperhi diddystar
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00:29:38midknight2k3patch cleaning! oh boy!
00:29:44midknight2k3oh yes, hello all
00:30:26diddystar5heh i think thats already done
00:30:39midknight2k3oh man! you started without me!
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00:32:00midknight2k3bod is here too!
00:32:05midknight2k3and jet8810
00:32:12midknight2k3and tracktheripper!
00:32:19midknight2k3wow a lot of people are here today
00:32:22diddystar5hey mecraw remember me!
00:32:46mecraw_diddystar5: i remember the name
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00:49:22tracktheripperhey midnight
00:49:36tracktheripperhey dudes
00:49:48midknight2k3i've been sitting here for awhile waiting for you to say something
00:50:03midknight2k3i told IRC to beep when something is said in #rockbox
00:50:14midknight2k3so whenever you say something i can get back to you right away
00:50:25tracktheripper((gives Midkinight a big hug))
00:50:35midknight2k3the standby, shutdown, restart wwas REJECTED! GRRR
00:50:43tracktheripperWHAT DID I TELL U!
00:50:56 Quit daniel82 ()
00:51:10tracktherippersee the comment in the rejected request
00:51:18midknight2k3i didn't yet
00:51:30tracktheripperi should submit "Turn off Rejected, Invalid and Works For Me In The Feature Requests"
00:51:32midknight2k3when i noticed it yesterday, sourceforge was down
00:51:54tracktheripperor submit "Make Zagor More Cheerful In IRC"
00:52:09midknight2k3"I did warn you Midknight2k3 that this request you asked me
00:52:09midknight2k3to send would get rejected! You didn't listen! :-)
00:52:26midknight2k3i didnt ask you and you thought it was a great idea
00:52:30midknight2k3i will now resubmit it
00:52:37midknight2k3with a better idea implimented
00:52:50tracktheripperits up to u if u wanna resubmit it
00:52:56midknight2k3i wont
00:53:06midknight2k3im going to add something to it not redo the same thing
00:53:21tracktheripperI dare u to submit "Make Zagor More Cheerful In IRC"
00:53:51midknight2k3IRC? i never heard him mean in irc (acourse i havent heard him in irc at all yet)
00:54:09tracktheripperhe is grumpy here
00:54:18midknight2k3i bet
00:54:41tracktheripperi dare you, go on :-)
00:54:57midknight2k3you say he's very grumpy?
00:55:09tracktherippernever seems to smile
00:55:20midknight2k3well i cant - that's a rockbox feature request page, not a rockbox member feature request page
00:55:29midknight2k3you ALWAYS smile
00:56:13tracktheripperim a happy person :-)
01:01:17midknight2k3i just put in a new feature request
01:03:35midknight2k3wna see
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01:05:20 Quit ^gizz^ ("Download Gaim []")
01:05:34tracktheripperis it in sourceforge?
01:07:27tracktheripperthat is already possible a customasizable WPS
01:07:40midknight2k3i didn't mean custimized wps
01:07:41midknight2k3read it
01:07:47midknight2k3i meant, ON THE ARCHOS ITSELF
01:08:11midknight2k3not attached to pc, not running notepad, not looking at %pt and %pk tags
01:10:25tracktheripperIve got a SUPER feature request
01:10:28tracktheripperwhich is sensible
01:10:39midknight2k3text inputter?
01:10:43midknight2k3submitting it?
01:12:42tracktheripperno a peak meter improvement
01:12:43tracktheripperhang on
01:12:54midknight2k3do you have speakers on your pc?
01:13:09tracktheripperhang on not finished
01:16:36tracktheripperITS SENT midknight
01:16:45midknight2k3you use mirc?
01:16:45tracktheripperthere is an attachment u can download to see what I mean
01:17:02midknight2k3link meh!
01:17:59tracktheripperhang on
01:19:13midknight2k3ooh oooooh
01:19:17midknight2k3sounds pretty good
01:19:25tracktheripperdownload the attached file
01:19:30midknight2k3i did
01:19:32midknight2k3nice job
01:19:35midknight2k3i bet they say yes
01:19:49midknight2k3check that, i HOPE they say yes
01:20:11tracktheripperthat would be soooooooooo cool
01:20:30midknight2k3you're the guy with the invert option implemented right?
01:22:45tracktheripperMidknight why don't u add a comment to that
01:23:00tracktheripperlike "This is the first sensible request sent by tracktheripper!"
01:23:55tracktheripperu there?
01:24:18midknight2k3im back was afk
01:25:24tracktheripperoh okay
01:25:33tracktheripperyea just add some sort of comment to that plz :-)
01:25:42midknight2k3how do i reply???
01:25:50midknight2k3must i login?
01:26:04tracktheripperyea log in then "Add A Comment"
01:26:19midknight2k3it's a grat idea i hope they do it
01:26:40tracktheripperall you have to do is invert the end part of the Peak Meter
01:26:42midknight2k3and an option in menu>general settings>display>peak meter>red zone
01:27:07midknight2k3you know how you can do the peak meter with the logarithmic thing or whatever?
01:27:20midknight2k3so it's big on one side and small on the other?
01:27:29midknight2k3try it if you have your recorder handy
01:27:35midknight2k3you know?
01:27:36tracktheripperyea my recorder is here
01:28:11midknight2k3go to menu > general settings > display > peak meter > scale (scale or something like that i dunno
01:28:43tracktheripperi know that
01:28:45midknight2k3see it?
01:28:46tracktheripperi prefer linear
01:29:03midknight2k3but they could have an option for logarithmic for the red zone too
01:30:31midknight2k3or just auto-adjust according to settings
01:30:47midknight2k3peak meter logarithmic settings that is
01:30:59midknight2k3comment added
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01:33:02trackktheripperI saw, Thanks :_)
01:33:49trackktheripperu there midknight?
01:34:27trackktheripperi saw
01:34:28midknight2k3no problem
01:34:32midknight2k3i like it
01:34:39trackktheripperdid u like the pic
01:34:43trackktheripperthe pic is just a guide
01:34:59midknight2k3it's very good
01:35:06midknight2k3did you whip that up in paint or what?
01:35:22trackktheripperi drew it in Paint
01:35:23midknight2k3i'm personally against paint but it's a good picture
01:35:29midknight2k3good good
01:35:45midknight2k3and was it you that did the L/R channel display in peak meter?
01:37:21midknight2k3i have to get ready to go
01:37:25midknight2k3im still here tho
01:38:03trackktheripperjust add tiny L and R for the Peak Meter
01:38:11midknight2k3if both were put in i'd be happy for a clam
01:38:15midknight2k3happy as a clam i mean
01:38:42trackktheripperthe point of the "Red Zone" is so you know how far u can push the volume without "Clipping"
01:39:11midknight2k3i get it track lol
01:39:23trackktheripperits hard to see with the current peak meter
01:39:30midknight2k3there isnt one is htere?
01:40:24midknight2k3i gotta go now seeya track
01:40:26trackktheripperbut this "Red Zone" is a much clearer indication"
01:40:29trackktheripperseeya dude
01:40:30midknight2k3good luck and great request
01:40:34midknight2k3yes it is
01:40:41midknight2k3i hope it's not rejected
01:40:45trackktheripperit would be really cruel if it gets rejected
01:40:48midknight2k3linus would get a piece of my mind
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01:41:17trackktheripperseeya dude
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03:18:35DoktorDVDwho doesn't want a 720mhz and 80GB harddrive and 4inch LCD in the pocket?
03:19:01earHurtsis that the new archos model?
03:19:09DoktorDVDI wish they would make such a thing in Hong Kong so people who want to develop stuff can do
03:19:26DoktorDVDThe new archos is 20GB or 40GB and not 720MHZ yet
03:19:42DoktorDVDthe new archos plays 640x368 resolution DivX though
03:19:46earHurtsI have a pda already.
03:19:53DoktorDVDwith a harddrive?
03:20:21DoktorDVDthey should put harddrives in the PDAs... and put tv-in and outputs on them
03:20:31DoktorDVDand camera-modules
03:20:32earHurtsI'll nbuy an archos if its architecture is documented
03:20:41DoktorDVDand Texas Instruments 1GHZ DSP processor
03:21:30earHurtsopen architechture?
03:21:36DoktorDVDin they talk a little of what is inside the JBMM20
03:22:15DoktorDVDit's not open no... That doesn't mean Archos won't make a very awesome firmware for it.. though I guess Archos might not make a NES emulator for it
03:22:23DoktorDVDand SNES and N64 emulators
03:22:34OliverKlozoff6502 emulator on a 12mhz sh1
03:23:07earHurtsarchos's firmware track record is abnysmnal.
03:23:19MTbetter than mine
03:23:22earHurtsthat's why i use the far better rockbox
03:24:15DoktorDVDmaybe someone will find out how to hack the official archos Multimedia firmwares..
03:24:44DoktorDVDand thus someone would do the emulators and all kinds of features.. Like 2-pass DivX encoding
03:24:49DoktorDVD'higher resolutions
03:25:22DoktorDVDThis is what they should put inside the Archos Multimedia:
03:27:27DoktorDVDI guess I'm the only one looking forward to that..
03:30:17DoktorDVDwe will see 1GHZ with 80GB and 4-5inch LCDs computers that fit in the pocket before the end of the year..
03:31:21DoktorDVDwith all the audio/video/progressives-can/VGA inputs and outputs.. and plugs for modules, and wireless accessories..
03:31:49DoktorDVDactually IBM says 150GB 2,5inch hardddrives will be available in a few months..
03:33:23PsycoXulDoktorDVD: hell yeah thats the shit i'm waiting for
03:33:32PsycoXulthe all-in-one pocket multimedia computing platform
03:33:59PsycoXulthe only piece of technology missing to make it perfect is a resizable display heh
03:36:21PsycoXuland HD's are kinda slow, fragile, and power-hungry to be really well suited for such devices in the long-run
03:36:59DoktorDVDI think one can easilly carry around more than one battery..
03:37:03PsycoXulbut thats ok cause spintronics and MEMS devices and such things are coming along
03:37:13DoktorDVDin case the 4-5-inch LCD eats battery in less than 4 houres
03:37:54PsycoXulwell a large LCD backlight plus a HD that's being continually accessed
03:38:00PsycoXulis gonna drain a battery in no time
03:38:17DoktorDVDyou mix that with a pair of cool high-resolution video-glasses, then you have a huge display infront of your eye
03:38:18PsycoXuler well not large LCD but you know small/medium
03:38:39PsycoXulyeah but you can't write/draw on video-glasses
03:38:45DoktorDVDArchos AV340 might eat batter for DivX-playback in 3-4 houres..
03:38:47PsycoXulor show a group
03:39:09DoktorDVDiamgine your portable gadget is connected to your jacket, and in your jacket you can have 3-4 extra-batteries..
03:39:34PsycoXulyeah thats a stopgap measure
03:39:36DoktorDVDthen when you are home you put your jacket on a special thing that recharges the batteries
03:39:59PsycoXulbut what if you live in a place where the weather's usualy warm
03:40:40PsycoXulthen a jacket full of battery's is unbearable
03:40:42DoktorDVDhah.. then you would need a solar-panel hat instead
03:40:55PsycoXulyeah but solar panels are horribly inefficient
03:41:18DoktorDVDThen somekind of belt that holds the batteries or something
03:41:40PsycoXulthe best course of action is to push development for better and lower-power technology
03:41:43DoktorDVDthat until someone invents an awesome new battery that can be used for 100 houres
03:41:56PsycoXuloh yeah that too, better energy supplies
03:42:05PsycoXulpower supplies are a big problem these days
03:42:14PsycoXulthere's all kinds of things that most technology has reached a point now to make possible
03:42:22PsycoXulbut no suitable energy solution for them
03:42:33DoktorDVDbut have you seen the Archos AV340? It truely is a huge step in the right direction..
03:42:42PsycoXulmaybe fuel cells can do the trick
03:43:57PsycoXuland of course there's a huge gap between the discovery and scientific implimentation of principles and the commercial implimentation of them
03:44:24PsycoXulthere's all kinds of technology that're only available to scientists
03:44:42DoktorDVDyeah.. energy... there probably is unlimited amount of it everywhere... It's too difficult to imagine what will happen to Humans the day we can use just 1% of the available energy just around us..
03:45:22PsycoXuli had a dream where i built a thing that tapped into that limitless energy
03:45:36PsycoXulit totally changed the face of the world
03:45:49DoktorDVDI hate it how those Hydrogen cars arent available yet... they pollute 0% and drive as good as oil cars..
03:46:06PsycoXuli was arrested and locked away the day i completed it, and when i was let out the world was a completely different place
03:46:53PsycoXuland then i got to go explore how things had become
03:47:03PsycoXuland man the amounts of energy those people used was just sick
03:47:37DoktorDVDit will raelly hurt.. but maybe it would be too much if all humans had so much energy...
03:47:46PsycoXulit was such that when i equated the amount of energy a 70's muscle car engine provides to terms they could understand
03:47:55PsycoXulthey thought that that was too little energy to be useful for anything
03:48:43PsycoXulall in all the world was a much better place than it is now
03:48:58DoktorDVDthat sounds fun.. Sony might come with that battery in 2004
03:49:02PsycoXulthe technology obsoleted government, commercialism, even labor
03:49:17PsycoXulit equalled every human on earth
03:49:20PsycoXulwell, almost...
03:49:51PsycoXulthe people with the interest and knowledge of the principles behind the technology became basically the ruling class
03:49:56PsycoXulnot officialy as such, but effectively
03:50:03DoktorDVDbut even solar panels today are ample enough for doing lots of good things in this world... 2 meter of solar panel and a pump and you can pump water for a whole african village
03:50:29PsycoXulthere's tons of stuff now that technology is ripe for
03:50:33PsycoXulthat just hasn't been put together yet
03:50:39PsycoXulbut my dinner's ready
03:50:40PsycoXulso bbl
03:50:58DoktorDVDhave some nice energetic meat
03:53:50earHurtsanybnody here know cvs?
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03:54:37DoktorDVDI dunno
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04:23:35*Stevie-O growls
04:30:30earHurtswhat troubles you, stevie-o?
04:30:56Stevie-Omy emulator seems to be flawed somehow
04:31:27earHurtsthis would be the emulator != simulator emulator?
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04:31:53Stevie-Othe program is locking up in an infinite loop
04:32:26earHurtsan invarient nnot satisfied?
04:32:47Stevie-O0x0900A510: 0x3120 cmp/eqr1, r2; 0x000055AA == 0x000055AA? 1
04:32:47Stevie-O0x0900A512: 0x89fd bt 0xfffffffa; 0x0900A510 (will branch)
04:32:47Stevie-O0x0900A510: 0x3120 cmp/eqr1, r2; 0x000055AA == 0x000055AA? 1
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04:32:47Stevie-O0x0900A512: 0x89fd bt 0xfffffffa; 0x0900A510 (will branch)
04:32:48Kick(#rockbox Stevie-O :No flooding!) by logbot!
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04:32:50midknight2k3nnot? lol
04:32:54Stevie-Oaw, skroo yoo logbot
04:32:58Stevie-Oit was only 4 lines
04:33:19earHurtsit was .... suprising.
04:33:23midknight2k3try saying the same thing 3 times over and over and over
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04:34:33Stevie-Ohow nice.
04:34:37earHurtsi'm afraid i don'tn speak that assenbler
04:34:46Stevie-Oit compares 'r1' with 'r2'
04:34:54midknight2k3don'tn, assenbler
04:34:59earHurtsyeah, I got that part
04:34:59Stevie-Oif they're equal, it jumps back to the compare instruction
04:35:08Stevie-O(bt == 'branch if true')
04:35:10midknight2k3earhurts, just put irc on your new replacement! ;p;
04:35:14midknight2k3;o; i mea
04:35:24midknight2k3lol i mean
04:36:05Stevie-Owhat's really bizarre is that before that loop starts
04:36:07earHurtsah, it's a relative bnranch,n isn't it
04:36:11Stevie-Oit copies r1 to r2
04:36:19Jet8810hey midknight
04:36:21Stevie-Oso it's like
04:36:25Stevie-Ox = y;
04:36:27Stevie-Owhile (x==y);
04:36:44Stevie-Oit makes no sense
04:36:46earHurtsor while(x=y)
04:36:49Stevie-OI must be decoding the instructions wrong
04:37:04midknight2k3oh hello
04:37:13earHurtsor it's volatile
04:37:27Stevie-O0x0900A510: 0x3120 cmp/eqr1, r2; 0x000055AA == 0x000055AA? 1
04:37:27Stevie-O0x0900A512: 0x89fd bt 0xfffffffa; 0x0900A510 (will branch)
04:37:27Stevie-O0x0900A510: 0x3120 cmp/eqr1, r2; 0x000055AA == 0x000055AA? 1
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04:37:27Stevie-O0x0900A512: 0x89fd bt 0xfffffffa; 0x0900A510 (will branch)
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04:37:33Stevie-Ofscking thing
04:37:38Stevie-Ostupid laptop kbd
04:37:49earHurtsmaybe it's sleepn until some external process changes a reg value
04:37:52midknight2k3why is logbot a "@" anyways?
04:37:54Stevie-O'volatile' doesn't apply
04:37:54midknight2k3it wasnt before
04:38:00midknight2k3now he can kick people!
04:38:01Stevie-Oit's not accessing anything external to the CPU
04:38:06earHurtsthe concept volatile applies
04:38:13Stevie-Ono, it doesn't
04:38:19Stevie-Ovolatile only applies to stuff external to the CPU
04:38:25Stevie-Othose are registers
04:38:36Stevie-Oit's not loading anything from memory or any memory-mapped registers
04:38:37earHurtssome interupt can't set the registers?
04:38:44Stevie-O... no
04:38:54Stevie-Ounless they're doing something VERY screwy
04:39:10earHurtsyes technically volatile mneans don't put this in a reg.
04:39:49Stevie-Ovolatile means that the compiler can neither insert nor remove 'extra' accesses to the given memory location
04:39:49earHurtsyou said yourself the immediate prior instructions makes the regs equal
04:40:22earHurtsI'm typing on a thunnb board, don't expect ne to quote the Standard.
04:41:05Stevie-Oi'm just really familiar with the rules behind 'volatile'
04:41:12earHurtsif this were conmp.lang.c i'd quote from my copy of the Standard
04:41:29earHurtsyou a compiler writer?
04:43:15earHurtsI think stevie must nbe caught in that loop
04:43:47earHurtsmidk, you here?
04:44:08midknight2k3nice N key ya got there :)
04:44:17Stevie-OearHurts: no, but I'm an embedded developer
04:44:27Stevie-Oat least, that's what my job title is
04:44:42earHurtsvery sweet stevie-+o
04:45:03earHurtsI and my n key are celenbratinng
04:45:19midknight2k3i can see
04:45:21earHurtsI got my patch added to the source today
04:46:04earHurtsunfortunately, there's an errorn in it.
04:46:18earHurtsand error.
04:46:59earHurtsand my gf had to nwork late, so nmy celebration is limited to irc.
04:47:32earHurtsoh, come on midk
04:47:47midknight2k3i thought it should be midkn
04:48:03earHurtsgaimn is nbuggy on my w2k box.
04:48:19earHurtsso i ircn on the zaurus
04:48:22midknight2k3don't get me started
04:48:26midknight2k3uy yuy yuy
04:48:29midknight2k3stop with the NS
04:49:01earHurtsmidk, it's the keyboard. it's note my idea of a cute affectation
04:49:26midknight2k3i hear you rcieved a replacement .... n
04:49:29earHurtslike that stutterinng character innbrideshead revisited
04:50:02earHurtsyeah, and the replacment isn't factory new, so i have to nconmplain and send it back
04:50:41midknight2k3at least some human fixed it
04:50:49earHurtsso why was it sent nback?
04:51:01earHurtswas it fixed? wnho knows.
04:51:01midknight2k3it wasn't therow together by a machine in some taiwanese sweatshop
04:51:15midknight2k3therow = thrown
04:51:27earHurtsI didn't spend $500 US for used.
04:51:57*Stevie-O wouldn't spend $500 for even a new keyboard
04:52:01midknight2k3used and fixed by a human is better than new and put together by a dumb machine!
04:52:20earHurtsit's a pda, not a keybnoard
04:52:24midknight2k3it's a pds
04:52:32Stevie-Oit's a POS
04:52:35Stevie-Othat's what it is
04:52:36midknight2k3i can see where this is going
04:52:51*midknight2k3 agrees.
04:53:07earHurtsstevie, you're a bluebird of happiness
04:53:07*midknight2k3 it's probably wirth $10 on eBay.
04:53:44earHurtsstevie, you've submitted code for rockbox, yes?
04:53:51*midknight2k3 has quit IRC (Quit: "Leaving")
04:53:58midknight2k3hahaha i fooled you hahaha
04:54:01Stevie-Onow and then
04:54:07midknight2k3ha ha ha
04:54:09midknight2k3i win
04:54:25Stevie-Oyou know
04:54:29Stevie-Oif they're gonna op logbot
04:54:35Stevie-Othey could at least add an 'anti-idiot' kick
04:54:45earHurtsdoes zagor always edit for style as it were?
04:54:56midknight2k3speaking of zagor
04:55:02midknight2k3all i have to say is:
04:55:07midknight2k3HA HA HA I FOOLED YOU
04:55:21midknight2k3he he he ha ha ha, oooooohhh. Texaco, aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
04:55:24Stevie-OearHurts: there are style guidelines
04:55:27Stevie-OI try to follow them
04:55:43Stevie-Oafter all, it IS his project...
04:55:58earHurtsyeah, I repect that
04:57:36earHurtsbut you havenn't actually answered what iasked :)
04:57:50midknight2k3he said
04:57:55midknight2k3he trys to follow them
04:58:03midknight2k3oh never mind
04:58:12midknight2k3"does zagor always edit for style as it were?"
04:59:38earHurtsyes, I ask 'does he', not 'should he'
05:00:03earHurtsthankn you for pointing that out, midk :)
05:00:24midknight2k3...what now....?..?
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07:12:30earHurtsgreen eggs &
07:31:37earHurtshow's your emulator != simulator?
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07:34:27Stevie-Osomethings broke
07:34:31earHurtshow's dwihno pronounced, anyway?
07:35:09Stevie-Oi figured it was 'dwino'
07:35:20earHurtswhat exactly are you trying to emulate?
07:35:21Stevie-Osorta like the 'dawyne' knock-knock joke
07:35:42earHurtsdwayne knock knock?
07:36:33earHurtswho's there?
07:36:50earHurtsdwayne who?
07:36:54Stevie-Odwayne the tub! I'm dwowning!
07:37:09earHurtsvery bad :)
07:37:18Stevie-Ohey, I didn't make it up
07:37:47*dwihno <−− tired
07:37:54dwihnoThat's what you get when you sleep 4 hours ;)
07:37:56earHurtsthere was an asimov (i think) story about that
07:38:01*Stevie-O hands dwihno a pillow
07:38:31dwihnoThanks, but I don't think my supervisors would think that's a good idea.
07:38:58earHurtssleeping in the wee hours near dawn apparenntly is more refreshing
07:39:01dwihnoDo you think TV repair shops have resistors for sale?
07:39:07Stevie-Oradio shack does
07:39:21Stevie-OI don't know any TV repair shops
07:39:23dwihnoWe don't have radio shack in sweden (yeah, we're retards)
07:39:31earHurtsi dounbt repair shops retail 'emn
07:39:53Stevie-OI think the idea that not having Radio Shack is retarded
07:39:56earHurtsbut a nice repairman might just give you a few
07:39:57Stevie-Ois a very debatable one
07:40:25earHurtsmay we have your address please?
07:40:25dwihnotrue, true...
07:40:40Stevie-O123 Fake St
07:40:47dwihnoI have tested a bundle of resistors a friend of mine got at the university, but they are all too powerful
07:41:02Stevie-O'too powerful' ?
07:41:05earHurtswe can't sell you the batteries witnhout a real address
07:41:10dwihnotoo many ohms then
07:41:29Stevie-Operhaps Mouser Electronics could assist you?
07:41:42earHurtsthe resistance is deternmined nby the colored nbands on them.
07:41:58earHurtsso, get some little tins of npaint....
07:42:51dwihnosteve: well, I need the resistors _tonight_ :)
07:43:10Stevie-Ouse them in parallel?
07:45:11Stevie-Ook, i gotta hit the hay
07:45:15*Stevie-O grabs his hammer
07:46:12earHurtsi wonder if you could disassemnble something common for nyour resistors
07:46:23earHurtslight a cheap telephone
07:46:44dwihnonay, I'll just go to a repair shop during lunch and ask them kindly
07:47:00earHurtsprobably work
07:48:01dwihnoThey sell 5000 resistors for 50e at a local store, but I feel like that would be wasting money on 4999 resistors for nothing ;)
07:49:42earHurtswhat's 50e inamerican
07:50:19dwihnoabout $60
07:50:52dwihnoI've already spent 25e on the "project", and an additional 50e would feel so wrong
07:51:24earHurtswhat's the pronject?
07:51:54earHurtsnoh, e is euro
07:52:38dwihnothe project is basically a pretty cool t-shirt for the summer festivities
07:54:04earHurtswith a resistor??
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07:55:04dwihnoindeed :)
07:56:25dwihnowell, the motors are running too fast
07:58:20earHurtsgotta go. good luck withe t-shirt
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12:06:32tracktheripperhello webmind
12:06:38tracktheripperdid u see my latest request?
12:09:29tracktheripperis everyone dead here/
12:09:55Bagderwe actually do things
12:10:07tracktheripperahh there u are bagder
12:10:13tracktheripperdid u get my latest request?
12:10:21tracktheripper"Red Zone For Peak Meter"?
12:10:22BagderI got it and I ingnore it
12:10:43Bagderbecause we have ~200 more important ones
12:10:57tracktheripperyou wouldn't ignore it if someone else sent it
12:11:05tracktheripperjust because I sent it you automatically ignore it?
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13:11:49ZagorStevie[FP]: congrats, your bool-apply patch just went in :-)
13:12:21Quelsarukbool-apply patch?
13:12:30Quelsarukwhat's that?
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13:15:53Zagorsee the list :)
13:16:37Quelsaruklunch time...
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15:21:08*Stevie[FP] is back from [gawn] [gone 15hrs 6secs] [KS]
15:21:08Stevie[FP]hey Z
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15:21:31Stevie[FP]you wouldn't happen to have an FM or anything, would you?
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15:21:53Stevie[FP]how about the ROM images from a regular Recorder?
15:22:11Zagori don't have them, but I guess I can make some
15:23:53Stevie[FP]did you see the SS?
15:24:19Zagoryeah, bagder showed me. looks cool!
15:24:38Stevie[FP]after that screen is displayed
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15:24:59Stevie[FP]the firmware locks up in an infinite loop
15:25:10Stevie[FP]so I'm trying to find out what I did wrong
15:25:11dwihnoStevie[FP]: cool stuff
15:25:26Stevie[FP]at first I assumed it was the ATA code
15:25:31Stevie[FP](since I have no ATA emulation)
15:25:44Stevie[FP]but the code just loops like
15:25:48Stevie[FP]a: cmp r1, r2
15:25:57Stevie[FP]a: cmp/eq r1, r2
15:26:00Stevie[FP]bt a
15:26:22Stevie[FP]which, since r1 and r2 are equal, will lewp forever
15:26:25Zagoris that actual rockbox code?
15:26:35Stevie[FP]that's the FM firmware
15:26:53Stevie[FP]the CPU emulation starts the same way the real CPU starts up
15:27:12Stevie[FP]([IDC]Dragon was very helpful with his reverse engineering of the boot ROM)
15:28:29Stevie[FP]what I find VERY suspicious
15:28:35Stevie[FP]is the *value* in r1 and r2
15:28:41Stevie[FP]... 0x55AA
15:29:10Zagorhmm indeed
15:29:11Stevie[FP]0101 0101 1010 1010, a favorite test pattern among hardware people
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15:31:38*Stevie[FP] notes that the original IBM PC allowed you to install your own EPROMs, and it required that the XOR of all 16-bit words in the image be 55AA
15:32:06dwihnoLet's sing!
15:32:27dwihnoOh Rockbox, you rock the box! Rockyyyyyyyyy boxyyyyyyyyyyyy
15:32:40Stevie[FP]rockboxy roller?
15:32:49dwihno*chanting church quire*
15:33:11Stevie[FP]that's the great thing about english
15:33:15Stevie[FP]you think you've got it down pat
15:33:19Stevie[FP]and then they throw you a curveball
15:33:28Stevie[FP]i before e
15:33:30Stevie[FP]except after C
15:33:37Stevie[FP]and sounding like A
15:33:41Stevie[FP]as in 'neighbor' and 'weigh'
15:33:46Stevie[FP]and on weekends, and holidays
15:33:56Stevie[FP]and all throughout May
15:34:02Stevie[FP]and you'll always be wrong no matter WHAT you say!
15:43:30*Stevie[FP] yawns
15:44:14Zagoryou know how "ghoti" is pronounced, right?
15:44:47Zagor('gh' from laughter, 'o' from women, 'ti' from station)
15:45:01Zagorvery logical language ;)
15:47:54Bagder*person with linux from 1995 detected*
15:48:06Bagdernow that is old
15:48:26Bagderperson on the curl list who fails to build curl on it
15:48:40Zagorhaha. "this is a bug. you should fix it."
15:48:59Zagor"new linux is too bloated"
15:51:35BagderZagor: you checked for that bug yet?
15:51:45Zagordoing it now
15:52:15Stevie[FP]would either of you two be so incredibly generous as to provide me with the two ROM dumps from a Recorder?
15:52:35BagderI can't right now
15:52:38ZagorStevie[FP]: will do, hang on
15:52:42Stevie[FP]okay, ty
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16:00:14ZagorBagder: I think it's something about the bool being at an odd address
16:00:27BagderI thought about that too
16:01:27Bagderany easy fix for that?
16:01:37Stevie[FP]what's the problem?
16:02:17Zagorthe new bool/int code crashes when setting cursor type
16:02:34ZagorBagder: i haven't pinpointed the exact location/cause yet
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16:02:39*Stevie[FP] doesn't know what that bool/int code is
16:02:57ZagorStevie[FP]: it changes set_option to handle either int or bool options
16:03:03Bagderchanging of bool configs take effect immediately
16:03:49Stevie[FP]would that be in the daily build src for 0605?
16:04:10Stevie[FP]cvs only?
16:04:10Bagderwe did it just a few hours ago
16:04:12Zagorno, only bleeding edge. we committed it just over an hour ago
16:04:42Stevie[FP]too bad SF's cvs doesn't work for me
16:05:31DBUGSent KICK jzoss to server
16:05:31jzosscongrats, Zagor + Bagder on your patch cleaning day. =)
16:05:31Kick(#rockbox jzoss :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!
16:05:48Bagderhe's mean
16:05:56Bagderwe should probably shut off the colour kick
16:06:40BagderI strip them anyway ;-)
16:06:54Zagorme too :)
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16:07:30Bagderthanks jzoss! we're quite happy as well
16:07:31jzosswhoops! Hopefully config'd right, now. =)
16:08:02Zagorjzoss: thanks, anyway. we got a lot of work done.
16:08:20jzossyah. more CVS action than in the previous few weeks. heh
16:09:37Stevie[FP]does it crash happen when first editing? changing? saving?
16:09:49Zagorjust entering the setting
16:10:16Bagderso it reads the address only
16:10:23Zagoryou can grab a bleeding edge and test here:
16:11:02Stevie[FP]this is where having a working emulator would be helpful! :D
16:11:09Bagderoh indeed
16:11:10Stevie[FP]in theory anyway
16:11:54Zagorhow do I show combined asm/c in gdb?
16:12:01Stevie[FP]I don't have the src
16:12:09Zagorah :)
16:12:17Stevie[FP]but can someone put a quick lcd_puts in there for me?
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16:12:29Stevie[FP]in set_option()
16:12:32Stevie[FP]at the beginning of the loop
16:12:56Zagori know what it is
16:13:18Zagor"int orgint=*intvar". bools can be on odd addresses, making that crash
16:13:32Zagorat least I guess that might be it
16:13:33Stevie[FP]it will?
16:13:38Stevie[FP]I don't think so
16:13:43Bagderit does
16:13:48Zagoryes, a word read from an odd address will cause an address exception
16:13:48Stevie[FP]does the thing have an unaligned access trap?
16:14:01Stevie[FP]stupid thing
16:14:06Bagderyes ;-)
16:14:26Stevie[FP]the ARM7TDMI doesn't throw an exception
16:14:30Stevie[FP]it just produces weird results
16:14:40Zagori don't know which is worse ;)
16:15:04*Stevie[FP] plans to add some sort of source viewer to his emulator
16:15:07Stevie[FP]if I ever get it started
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16:16:05Zagorbingo, that was it
16:16:21Stevie[FP]since 'int' will encompass any value 'bool' can attain
16:16:28Stevie[FP]you just have an 'int origval' ?
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16:17:44Zagorhmm, sounds ok
16:20:05Stevie[FP]this is a most bizarre function
16:20:26Bagderit is kind of weird, yes
16:20:37Bagderbut we need to do it that way to keep it generic for both ints and bools
16:20:43Stevie[FP]not set_option
16:31:11Stevie[FP]have you ever seen anything like that?
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16:34:51Zagoryou mean the logic or the assembler?
16:35:11Stevie[FP]the logic
16:37:39MTi found a bug the other day, but i havent had time to track down what the reasons for it where
16:38:11MTi decided it was not critical, as it happens in snake, and only if you recompile with different game settings
16:38:46MToops :)
16:38:47MTwormlet ;)
16:38:57Stevie[FP]Zagor: did you grab those memory dumps?
16:39:20Zagorsee private msg
16:39:41Stevie[FP]my script thought it was a spam msg
16:39:59Stevie[FP]10:39:50 GMT -0400 [GMT -0500 offset 3600s for DST] Zagor[] said: |Spammerz][ by Stevie-O
16:40:53Stevie[FP]ok, got em
16:42:45Stevie[FP]it uses squares?
16:43:19Stevie[FP]ARCHOS Jukebox
16:44:01Zagori don't follow you
16:44:25Stevie[FP]OS Version: 1.24
16:44:33Stevie[FP]the startup is showing squares
16:44:38Zagorah, right. yes it does.
16:44:48Zagorheh, you've got it working pretty good
16:44:57Stevie[FP]not really
16:45:03Stevie[FP]but it was a PITA to emulate the display
16:45:40Stevie[FP]trying to detect the rising edge of the SCK bit in port B
16:46:02Stevie[FP]well isn't that interesting
16:46:15Stevie[FP]it's doing the same thing my FM firmware did
16:48:58quel|lunchi'm really impressed Stevie[FP] :)
16:49:14Stevie[FP]with what?
16:49:31quel|lunchwith that emulator
16:49:33Stevie[FP]but it doesn't *do* anything
16:49:49Stevie[FP]and I wonder why it's locking up here
16:49:52quel|lunchright now it does more than my jukebox
16:49:59Stevie[FP]am I emulating an instruction wrong?
16:50:04Stevie[FP]it wouldn't be the first
16:50:07Stevie[FP]or even the 21st
16:50:59Stevie[FP]does anybody have the hardware hookups needed to debug a real Recorder?
16:51:16Zagoronly player, i'm afraid
16:51:29Zagormaybe that's good enough?
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16:51:45Stevie[FP]if I had the player ROMs, it might be :-o
16:51:56Zagoror maybe not, since it uses a completely different display ;-)
16:51:59Stevie[FP]the only emulation I have is the serial port and the display
16:52:00Stevie[FP]oh yeah
16:52:18Stevie[FP]I'd have to emulate the other one too
16:52:58Stevie[FP]which is actually harder −− it's very easy to emulate a bitmapped display
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16:54:29BagderI'm sure you can borrow some concepts from the player sim
16:55:15Stevie[FP]where's that font file for the player sim?
16:55:24Stevie[FP]I know I asked someone this before, but I completely forgot it
16:55:55Zagor /firmware/drivers/lcd-player-charset.c
16:56:21Bagderthe sim zagor
16:56:23Zagoruh, right. ignore me, i'm silly ;)
16:56:53BagderZagor: we can have a pre-snaxx tonight, linus and I are going in early
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17:05:13Stevie[FP]the Players are 12mhz right?
17:14:50QuelsarukZagor: could you binlang the czech.lang on the patch tracker? i get a lot of missing quotes, but there are ending quotes on those lines!!
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17:20:12Stevie[FP]what fscking IDIOT gave '&' a lower precedence than '=='
17:20:45*Quelsaruk looks around
17:20:57Quelsarukwell, it was not me :)
17:21:24*mecraw bows his head
17:21:29mecrawit was me... sorry
17:24:44QuelsarukZagor: alive?
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17:30:41Quelsaruktime to go
17:30:42Quelsarukcu later!
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17:36:50Stevie[FP]Zagor: is the LCD interface on the Player any different (i.e. the pins on PB)
17:52:35Stevie[FP]now where did he vanish to
17:53:41Stevie[FP]it's 5pm there
17:53:46Stevie[FP]or 6pm
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18:22:38Quelsarukhardeep: could you make me a favor?
18:23:23hardeepdepends on what it is... =)
18:24:14QuelsarukStevie[FP]: what's the word for that?
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18:24:42Quelsarukhardeep: just binlang a language file. I have perl 5.8 and it does some strange things.
18:24:54Stevie[FP]Welcome! To #rockbox_and_english_grammar_lessons :D
18:25:05hardeepQuelsaruk: sure, which file?
18:25:58Quelsarukhardeep: czech patch at the patch tracker :)
18:26:06Quelsaruklast patch :)
18:26:37QuelsarukStevie[FP]: at least you can understand me, hardly.. but you can :)
18:29:42hardeepQuelsaruk: i get missing id's for the new strings but everything else looks okay
18:29:52Quelsarukgreat :)
18:30:01Quelsaruki had a lot of missing ending quotes
18:30:08hardeepi'm also using perl 5.8... cygwin version
18:30:10Quelsarukbut i knew that was a bug :)
18:30:25Quelsarukthen.. that's strange..
18:32:18Stevie[FP]Quelsaruk: but I told you how to fix that bug
18:32:44QuelsarukStevie[FP]: another bug
18:32:47Quelsaruknot the same...
18:33:21Quelsaruki found out that it has to do with especial chars ending the line
18:33:35Quelsarukjust before the ending quotes
18:33:50Stevie[FP]that was the original bug
18:34:02Quelsarukyeah... i know :)
18:34:22Stevie[FP]you wouldn't happen to have a Player, would you?
18:34:38Quelsarukwith a dead hd :)
18:36:16Stevie[FP]where tf is Z
18:36:29*Stevie[FP] fires off an email
18:37:35Quelsaruknow we support two new languages, we should modify the web :)
18:39:14Stevie[FP]where are all the German people?
18:39:21MTgermany mainly
18:39:41MTaltho austria, switzerland and, in some areas, italy too
18:39:47Stevie[FP]why thank you
18:40:07Stevie[FP]now I need dwihno or someone
18:40:26Quelsarukdwihno won't come back 'till tomorrow
18:41:02QuelsarukSchnueff, he is german..
18:41:11Quelsaruki think
18:41:38Quelsarukelinenbe has a name that sounds like german :)
18:43:36*Quelsaruk points to Stevie[FP]
18:43:43Quelsarukhe wanted you :P
18:43:56Schnueffi have to leave ... :)
18:44:10Quelsarukme too
18:44:27*Schnueff .. cya tomorrow
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18:44:54Quelsarukcu tomorrow!
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19:05:54jony_calaveradoes anyone remembers the mount command for getting archos jukebox recorder to work??
19:06:45jony_calaveraplz :D
19:08:51jony_calaverasomeone?? anyone???
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19:14:43jony_calavera_aLF do you know the mount command that mounts the jukebox??
19:15:12_aLFmount /dev/sda1 /whereyouwant
19:15:30_aLFif you don't have scsi device
19:16:16jony_calaverahi jejej sorry
19:17:46jony_calaverait says that its not a valid block device (i'm translateing)
19:18:07jony_calaverawhy is that
19:19:53_aLFI don't have linux where I am, try to see which device is allocated (/dev/sda1 or else) with /var/messages
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19:37:30hardeepQuelsaruk: yes, I use cygwin
19:37:48Quelsarukwith ssh installed?
19:38:21hardeepalthough i normally use putty as my ssh client
19:39:40Quelsaruki have to add that as a personal note :)
19:40:27Quelsarukmaybe i'll need to ask you some questions tomorrow, if you're going to be here
19:41:48hardeepgotta go, bye
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19:42:47jony_calaveratchan: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 4
19:42:47jony_calaveraB: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
19:42:47jony_calaveraD: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
19:42:47DBUGSent KICK jony_calavera to server
19:42:47jony_calaveraPsycoXul_: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 0.00
19:42:47jony_calaveraSchnueff: Product=USB OHCI Root Hub
19:42:48Kick(#rockbox jony_calavera :No flooding!) by logbot!
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19:43:28Quelsarukstrange guy...
19:43:32Quelsarukmust go too!
19:43:37jony_calaverawhere can i find the kernell patch
19:43:48Quelsarukkernel patch?
19:44:07jony_calaverausb isd-200 support
19:44:07Quelsarukwhich kernel patch?
19:44:28jony_calaverai looked at
19:44:34jony_calaverabut link is broken
19:45:15Quelsarukrecent kernels have this patch
19:45:31jony_calaverai downloaded latest yesterday
19:46:04jony_calaverai still get the "not a valid block device" msg when i mount my jukebox
19:46:35Quelsarukask zagor :)
19:46:43Quelsaruki don't think i can help you
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19:47:31jony_calaverahy Zagor are you availiable
19:48:33jony_calaverabrb gotta go
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20:13:00*Stevie[FP] is back from [gawn] [gone 1hr 14mins 11secs] [KS]
20:14:35Stevie[FP]nobody with a Player here yet?
20:15:38Stevie[FP]god damnit
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20:18:40Stevie[FP]hey hardeep
20:18:47Stevie[FP]you don't happen to have a Player around, do ye?
20:19:16hardeepneg, recorder 6 here
20:20:15Stevie[FP]I need the player ROM images
20:22:22Stevie[FP]and I wonder how GCC's exception handling is
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21:03:27Scorpguys I have a quick question about the remote
21:03:44Scorpthey say it works with Studio 20 but the player doesn't have a special jack for a controller?
21:04:37jzossI think it plugs into the headphone jack, but I'm not sure...
21:04:52Scorpoh ok thanks
21:10:36Scorpis it possible to buy the remote control alone with out the damned travel kit?
21:10:51Scorpin a place other than
21:11:21jzossNew? I don't think so. Used? Probably, from an individual somewhere...
21:11:57Scorpbut they do sell it at amazon right?
21:12:13Scorpi mean at the archos website
21:12:52Scorpyeah for $20
21:13:02Scorpfeels like a damn shame to give away $20 for a piece of small plastic
21:13:13jzossHeh. It's $39 at amazon. hehe
21:13:33Scorpthe travel pack or the remote alone?
21:13:43jzosstravel pack
21:14:03Scorptravel pack seems kind of useless if you don't have a car
21:14:11Scorpand I don't :-/
21:14:32jzossyup. It's pretty useless (other than remote) *if* you have a car, too, since all that stuff's cheap
21:14:45Scorpyeah, but where can I get a remote for less?
21:14:49Scorpno one at ebay has them
21:15:15Scorpand I don't want to pay $20 for it at archos, because all the prices on that site seemed really jacked up
21:15:22Scorplike the studio is listed for 259 or something
21:16:19jzoss{shrug}. I dunno. Good luck! If you're desperate, you could make your own! ;)
21:16:53Scorpmake my own eh?
21:17:00Scorpis there a guide, has it been done before?
21:17:26ScorpI mean I can imagine mine will be a wad of wires, and it'll go to the next track when I touch 2 wires together, but if it's simple enough I may try :)
21:17:33jzossThere's probably some notes on the (rockbox) website, but it's not a common hack, no
21:19:43Scorpnope nothing there
21:21:56jzoss −− check there. Looks like it's a serial code @ 9600 baud. So you'll need more than a simple cluster of wires. =) Makes sense if it only has one pin in the headphone jack to "talk" to.
21:22:23*Stevie[FP] is away [(Auto-Away after 1hr)] [KS-MsgLog Off]
21:23:48jzossSee for someone's homegrown jukebox-remote electrical schematic
21:24:45Scorpbut that seems to be a little out my league
21:25:47Scorpeh, anyone want to sell a remote control/
21:28:07Scorpholy shit archos is going to charge me $11.50 to ship that little thing over ground!
21:34:22*Stevie[FP] is back from [(Auto-Away after 1hr)] [gone 12mins] [KS]
21:34:33Stevie[FP]neither of you two would happen to have a Player
21:37:27ScorpI have a player
21:37:30Scorpa studio 20
21:37:48Scorpif you're buying a player, pay the extra $8 and get the recorder, it's better.
21:39:46Stevie[FP]I need you to do me a favor
21:40:02Stevie[FP]do you have a copy of a recent daily build?
21:40:24Scorpsorry, player is not with me atm
21:40:26Stevie[FP]oh =/
21:40:30*Stevie[FP] blahs
21:40:46Scorpblah is right
21:40:48Stevie[FP]I need the player ROM dump
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21:45:33*Stevie[FP] throws stuff around
21:48:03*johncoswell has a recorder with him, not a player...
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21:50:35*Stevie[FP] yawns
21:51:17*Stevie[FP] offers a $0 reward to anyone who can get him player ROM dumps
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21:55:52Stevie[FP]no takers?
21:56:28jzossmeet me in the dark alleyway...
21:56:37jzoss*opens trenchcoat full of player ROM dumps
21:56:49jzosswhich one ya want?
21:57:07jzoss;) j/k. sorry I can't help you
21:58:27*Stevie[FP] declares war on Micronas
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22:11:20Stevie[FP]i wonder what the MAS does if execute an invalid instruction it not good to learn a program language using visual softwar (visual c++) or should i learn straight from code
22:18:48Stevie[FP]that's something I can't really make a recommendation on
22:21:16Yefti figure, i could learn visually at first., to get a feel for how programming works, and then move on
22:28:48Yeftahhh, done my first day of learn visual C++ in 21 days
22:28:59jzosswoohoo! congrats. =)
22:29:11Yeftlol thanks
22:30:46Yeftthis is just the first step, in my plan to take over the world
22:31:26Yeftand only 30 hours until i "recieve" my copy of visual C++
22:40:50Yeftstevie...workin on that emu?
22:45:48Stevie[FP]it's on hold atm
22:46:16Stevie[FP]If only someone here had the stuff to download example MOB files to the MAS
22:47:05Yefti do
22:47:08Yeftwait no i dont
22:51:25Stevie[FP]We're definitely going to need some social engineering
22:57:00Yeftwell i g2g , i already am taking up enough bandwith downloading irc isnt helping...
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