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#rockbox log for 2003-06-09

00:00:06MiChAeLoL7 hours is still a long time tho
00:00:14NixedWhy would anyone need an FM radio hen they have 20 gigs of mp3s?
00:00:22MiChAeLoLdont know
00:00:35MiChAeLoLi figure i may as well get a radio in it for 22 bucks more
00:00:35NixedI guess to listen to sporting events? :)
00:00:49MiChAeLoLlol... ripping scores to the hd
00:01:04Nixednow would the recorder record off the fm tuner?
00:01:29MiChAeLoLdont think it does that well in the rockbox firmware
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00:02:22Stevie-Osup Z
00:02:37Nixedis there anyone who gets less than 10 hours from their regular recorder with rockbox?
00:02:46MiChAeLoLwell i should have it in like 6 days
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00:04:36diddystar5Hey zagor
00:05:08Zagordiddystar5: hi
00:05:18MiChAeLoLlol i have 10 eminem albums (206 songs)
00:06:32*Stevie-O blinks
00:07:00*MiChAeLoL listens to eminem - blade freestyle
00:07:20*Stevie-O listens to silence
00:07:26Stevie-Omy laptop spkrs are broken
00:07:42MiChAeLoLhehe its small enough that the 2mb buffer is big enough for the whole song
00:08:21MiChAeLoLso if you put a really small song on repeat and it was always in the memory, how long would the battery last?
00:08:28MiChAeLoLand if you turned off the blacklight
00:08:32Stevie-O250 Stevie-O
00:08:37MiChAeLoLlike 50 hours?
00:08:43MiChAeLoLlike a minidisk player
00:08:51Stevie-Oi wonder
00:09:07 Quit diddystar5 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:09:10MiChAeLoLif a small song is on repeat does the hard drive have to spin at all?
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00:10:34MiChAeLoLdo you compile it with gcc in linux?
00:10:37MiChAeLoLor glibc
00:10:47MiChAeLoLor someother thing
00:11:23Nixedlater guys
00:11:26 Quit Nixed ()
00:12:27*MiChAeLoL goes afk
00:16:52 Quit Zagor (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
00:20:06*MiChAeLoL makes a game for rockbox
00:20:20*MiChAeLoL tries but failes
00:21:35diddystar5hehe a number guessing game would be very easy to make ;)
00:22:09diddystar520 (more or less) lines to make!
00:23:21MiChAeLoLyou should make one
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00:23:32MiChAeLoLor a demo thinggy like the matrix
00:23:39diddystar5hehe i'm gonna try now
00:23:46MiChAeLoLa demo thing like the matrix would be cool
00:23:51MiChAeLoLwhile the music was playing
00:24:12diddystar5it almost always takes me more than try to get something to work
00:26:22Yeftmichael, still talking about the matrix : )
00:26:42diddystar5my mommy want let me see it (the little R)
00:27:01tracktheripperhey Yeft
00:28:23Yeftjust tell your mom that you only seee keanu naked for like 10 minutes
00:28:48diddystar5yeah thats gonna go well!
00:28:55MiChAeLoLdownload it
00:29:23diddystar5hey you not suposed to do that ;)
00:29:33MiChAeLoLcentropy is the best version
00:29:57Yeftwhats centropy
00:30:08MiChAeLoLthe release version
00:31:10 Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:31:22MiChAeLoLi still say the best thing would be if the text editor could read nfo files
00:31:29MiChAeLoLcan it?
00:31:44diddystar5hummm do you know if there is a ansi file to randomize stuff?
00:32:11diddystar5i used to have a document that showed the info about the ansi files
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00:36:43MiChAeLoLhello again
00:36:49Stevie-Owho mythed me?
00:37:17MiChAeLoLdont you think they should make it so the text editor can read nfo files?
00:37:45diddystar5i have to go bye
00:37:47 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving")
00:38:13Yeftlol i made my first program!
00:38:21Yeftits a button that pops up a message box!
00:38:33Stevie-Oyou're my hero
00:38:39*Stevie-O gives Yeft a gold star
00:38:52tracktheripperthere should be a "Rockbox" Competition, Win an FM Recorder
00:39:09Yeftive got a gold star!
00:39:50*Yeft cuts himself with one of the star's points and bleeds profusely
00:39:50tracktheripperwhat you have to do is go through all the requests in Sourceforge "OPEN AND CLOSED" and count how may requests have "This is not possible, due to hardware limitations" in them
00:40:07YeftARCHOS Jukebox FM Recorder 20
00:40:07Yeft(AHS 500326) 1 0 $239.88 $239.88 UPS Ground
00:40:07Yeft Processing
00:41:53Yeftsee i already have my plan'
00:42:27Yeftevery sunday around here one of the radio stations does the top 40 most requested...... and i'm just gonna record the whole thing and then i'll have the top 40 most popular songs!
00:44:12Yeftgood idea huh
00:45:01MiChAeLoLcant go past 165 mb tho
00:45:33MiChAeLoLi should try that, im getting the fm recorder (waiting for it to ship)
00:45:46Yeftyeh me 2
00:45:56Yeft.....well i'll brb ill give you time to ponder my genius
00:45:57MiChAeLoLgot it for 222 bucks
00:46:26 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving")
00:46:27*MiChAeLoL left to get foods
00:47:49Yeftnow to make a money tracker program, so i can keep track of who owes me what : )
00:54:53MThow does one make a patch from a cvs tree?
00:55:11MTwill `cvs diff filename` suffice?
00:59:15hardeepMT: yes, cvs diff -ubR
01:01:03MTthink im doing something wrong then :)
01:01:15MTive made some changes to apps/tree.c
01:01:30MTand i want to produce a patch based upon it
01:01:33MToh, i see
01:02:46hardeepMT: just do "cvs diff -ub apps/tree.c" then
01:03:04MTthats the chap
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01:47:36Stevie-Ooh no, not you again!
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01:53:32tracktheripperhey Dwihno!
01:54:09tracktheripperhi stevieo
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01:57:27*MiChAeLoL wonders if anyone here has used the search plugin?
01:57:40jandamananyone have a jukebox recorder that "beeps" loudly?
01:59:01*MiChAeLoL will find out when he gets his in 5 1/2 days
01:59:42Stevie-Othe thing doesnt even have a speaker
01:59:52Stevie-Otheres an idea
01:59:58Stevie-Owhat if I hooked up my mp3 player to a soundbug? :D
02:00:28jandamanwell, not exactly a beep like a pc makes
02:00:33jandamanmore of a "pew pew" sound
02:00:37jandamanthat's audible
02:00:45jandamanand usually causes the player to stop
02:00:56Stevie-Oa 'pew pew' sound?
02:01:21MiChAeLoLmabye the hard drive
02:01:52*Stevie-O looks at tracktheripper
02:01:55jandamannot the normal sound when the hd is being accessed
02:01:57Stevie-Oare you feeling ok?
02:02:00jandamanbut seems like a warning sound
02:02:04jandamanthat's quite loud
02:02:17*MiChAeLoL ponders
02:02:49tracktherippermy Jukebox never makes a pew pew sound
02:02:51*MiChAeLoL wonders why the hell it says this download has been going for 1193045 hrs 53 mins 8 secs
02:03:35MiChAeLoLlol diddystar5 is checking me out
02:03:46tracktheripperHow come my Jukebox has been trouble free? My Jukebox never ever gives me grief.
02:03:57jandamani got mine used
02:04:02MiChAeLoLmust be a server thinggy or something cause theyu got my version time and ping
02:04:18tracktheripperMy Jukebox has been flawless ever since Ive had it
02:04:26MiChAeLoLhow long have ya had it?
02:04:27jandamanthere it makes the sound again
02:04:32tracktherippera year now
02:04:37jandamanjukebox recorder 15
02:04:39MiChAeLoLwhy dont you record the sound and send it too us
02:04:44jandamana week or so
02:04:55 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving")
02:05:03jandamandidn't freeze the player this time
02:05:14MiChAeLoLlow battery?
02:05:54jandamanthere an internal speaker in these things?
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02:15:00MiChAeLoLinternal mic
02:16:15*MiChAeLoL wishes he could find the fluke cd
02:16:32MiChAeLoLsimpily because of the song fluke - zion in the matrix reloaded sound track
02:19:16PsycoXulsomething's funky
02:19:43PsycoXulthis thing i recorded and then processed later and re-encoded and then copied back to a new place on the archos
02:20:17PsycoXulit's been fine forever and now last night i went to play it and it has like 2 skippy seconds of a more recent recording at the beginning of it
02:20:52PsycoXuli've also got another recent recording that reports as 31 seconds long in everything but is actualy >40 seconds long
02:20:59PsycoXulrockbox skips at the 31 second mark but then keeps playing
02:21:07PsycoXulbut other things (mpg123) just stop at the 31 seconds
02:21:53MiChAeLoLtry defragmenting your hard drive
02:22:16PsycoXulnot a good idea on these
02:22:24MiChAeLoLit isnt?
02:22:39PsycoXulthat puts too much strain on it or something
02:22:49PsycoXulbetter off just copying everything off, deleting it, and copying it back
02:23:05PsycoXulthat actualy somehow is nicer to it, i guess
02:23:07MiChAeLoLcan ya format it?
02:23:24MiChAeLoLstill waiting for mine to ship to me
02:23:29PsycoXulbut still i've got 20G of data on here
02:23:34MiChAeLoLjust bought one
02:23:41MiChAeLoLyou filled it?
02:23:46PsycoXuland i only have usb1.1
02:23:50PsycoXuli've more than filled it
02:23:55MiChAeLoLdamn that must be slow
02:23:55PsycoXuli keep having to delete stuff to put more on it
02:24:41MiChAeLoLi know... get a cheap 120 dollar 40 gb hard drive :D
02:24:48PsycoXuli should
02:24:53 Quit hardeep ("[BX] The Spice Girls use BitchX (instead of underwear and talent)")
02:24:58MiChAeLoL <- el cheapo brand
02:25:48PsycoXulwell i don't currently have an income
02:25:58MiChAeLoLim probably gunna get one when the 80gb get cheaper or if i break mine or fill it
02:26:32PsycoXulbut we just got a laser engraver so i can cut and engrave lots of stuff so i just need to start producing stuff and selling it and i'll get an income heh
02:26:44Stevie-OI wanna get a large HD for my laptop
02:26:51Stevie-OI wonder if I can find an 80gb one :D
02:27:06MiChAeLoLi c
02:27:26MiChAeLoLif ya put an 80gb in it you could probably sell it on ebay and make $$$
02:27:47Stevie-Ointeresting idea
02:27:52Stevie-Osince the sound is busted
02:28:08MiChAeLoLor a 40gb
02:28:25MiChAeLoLi got mine for 222 $, cant wait till i get it
02:28:36MiChAeLoLthe fm one
02:29:06PsycoXulthats what i got
02:30:10Stevie-OI've got every mp3 on my JBR and it only occupies 6.5gb
02:30:30Stevie-Oand most of those I hate, but I can't bear to delete!
02:31:19PsycoXulwhen i first got mine i put all my mp3's on it and it was less than half full
02:31:38Stevie-Oand I hate the RIAA so I don't buy new CDs
02:31:39PsycoXulwhich i had collected for like 5 years
02:31:56PsycoXuland then in the year that followed i somehow filled the other half
02:32:10PsycoXulStevie-O: yeah same here
02:32:39PsycoXuli've bought like 3 CD's in the past 3 years
02:32:55Stevie-OI've acquired what, 5 new mp3s in the last year
02:33:07PsycoXuland one of those was just for the cost of shipping
02:33:07Stevie-Oone was Vertical Horizon's Everything You Want
02:33:12MiChAeLoLi might fill it, i have 11gb of mp3's right now
02:33:14Stevie-Othe other four are from .hack//sign
02:33:23PsycoXulcause i got a gift certificate from
02:33:29MiChAeLoLbut if i fill it ill just delete some stuff off it
02:33:31PsycoXulfor ordering ram that was grossly underpriced
02:33:42PsycoXulthey wouldn't send me the ram, but they gave me a $15 gift certificate for the trouble
02:33:56Stevie-Olemme guess −− typo?
02:34:02PsycoXulyeah something like that
02:34:12Stevie-OSomeone I know got a cheap digicam from shoplift dot com
02:34:19Stevie-Oactually it was '' but we called it
02:34:40Stevie-Owe found a bug
02:34:47Stevie-Othat let you change the price
02:35:12Stevie-Ocuz the price was part of the URL
02:35:18Stevie-Ochange the URL used to add the shopping cart
02:35:38Stevie-Oand you change the price
02:35:46Stevie-Osomeone got a $900 digital camera for $90
02:35:51Stevie-Oby moving the decimal point
02:36:03PsycoXulwhy not $9 :p
02:36:11Stevie-Oto reduce suspicion?
02:36:13Stevie-OI almost got a few gigs of ram for $30 but by that time they were tcathing on :(
02:36:36Stevie-Owas a shame too!
02:37:44PsycoXuliirc i ordered a 512mb chip (a high quality one too) that was supposed to be like >$200 for $15 or some such
02:38:09PsycoXula few of us ordered them
02:38:22PsycoXuland they sent us all the gift certificates
02:38:28PsycoXulone of my friends didn't use it i don't think
02:38:36PsycoXulhe was gonna try to push them into sending him the ram
02:38:40PsycoXulsaying he wasn't gonna get bought off :p
02:38:46PsycoXulhe never did though he
02:38:49PsycoXuler heh
02:39:31PsycoXulpersonally i wish there was a way to find mispriced items on amazon easily
02:39:41PsycoXulthen i'd go around and order a bunch and rack up the free gift certificates
02:40:52PsycoXulbut hmm i need to come out with a line of products that i can make with the laser engraver
02:41:04MiChAeLoLwhats a laser engraver?
02:41:24PsycoXulit's a computer-controlled cutting laser
02:41:36PsycoXulyou design whatever and it'll cut and engrave it on most non-metallic materials
02:42:12MiChAeLoLyou could make plastic knives
02:42:19PsycoXulit'll engrave but not cut glass and stone
02:42:29PsycoXuland it'll cut wood, plastics, rubber, etc
02:42:45MiChAeLoLyou could probably engrave nice pictures on glass (like the sand blasting ones) and sell em for a lot of $$$
02:42:47PsycoXulexcept for PVC and vinyl because they release chemicals when they got hot that're bad for you and the machine
02:42:55PsycoXulMiChAeLoL: yeah i could
02:43:00PsycoXulMiChAeLoL: and on marble and stuff too
02:43:13MiChAeLoLhow much does something like that cost?
02:43:30PsycoXulthe one we got, which has a 12x24" cutting area and a 45watt laser was $16k
02:43:46MiChAeLoLwhat color is the laseR?
02:43:52PsycoXulit's invisible
02:43:58MiChAeLoLand could the laser cut your hand off?
02:44:00PsycoXuli think it's co2
02:44:18MiChAeLoLso ya gunna start your own buisness cutting pictures into marble?
02:44:32PsycoXuli dunno about cutting it off, but it could certainly do some damage heh
02:44:40PsycoXulwell, something :p
02:44:42MiChAeLoLlike in the bond movies
02:45:10PsycoXulwe've got like 5 to 7 thousand laser discs
02:45:20PsycoXulyou know, them big record-sized video discs that look like giant CD's
02:45:31PsycoXulso we're cutting stuff out of those
02:45:42MiChAeLoLthose are like from the 80's
02:45:48PsycoXulpeace signs, various other designs
02:46:04PsycoXuli started working on a pot leaf design last night
02:46:27PsycoXulactualy here
02:46:36PsycoXulthose are stuff my mom's done
02:46:54PsycoXuleach page is the same object with just different lighting and angles
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02:56:19MiChAeLoLcan you make a pattern, then make like a ton of the same thing?
02:57:47 Quit _aLF ("bye")
02:58:12MiChAeLoLlol... is the smily face a regular cd?
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04:53:53*MiChAeLoL is board
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04:55:47MiChAeLoLhello again
04:55:56Yefti'm just popping in to say "i am 2/21 the way to learning C++" (i just completed day2)
04:56:17Yeftvisual C++*
04:56:45Yeftwell, gotta go now CYA!
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05:01:09BoD[]that was interesting.
05:01:13BoD[]see you all
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05:04:21MiChAeLoLit was
05:04:36MiChAeLoLi wonder if i could learn c++ in 21 days
05:04:42MiChAeLoLi would probably quit at day 5 tho
05:04:54MiChAeLoLmabye day 10
05:05:02Stevie-Ogive up on day 20
05:05:14MiChAeLoLi once learned how to program a ti 83 +
05:05:19MiChAeLoLbut forgot most of it
05:05:42MiChAeLoLto many if and then statements
05:08:05MiChAeLoLhmmmm i think i would rather not learn c++ and keep the 34 bucks
05:13:16Stevie-Otry a1 discount books
05:13:27Stevie-OI know somebody who got a $60 book for like $7
05:18:30MiChAeLoLlol... ill download the ripped version
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06:26:49*OliverKlozoff yawns
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07:20:45thuanyone around?
07:21:34jandamannot really
07:23:53thusimple question
07:23:57thuhow do you encode your mp3s?
07:24:06thuas in bitrate
07:24:09jandamanwhich is
07:24:46thu128? 192? VBR?
07:24:46jandamandepends on the program you use
07:25:03jandamanme personally? I just download anything I want rather than rip any cds I have
07:25:24jandamanvbr i think will give you the best results in terms of size/quality
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07:26:40earHurtswhere can I buy bnald eagle heads?
07:26:52jandamanbuy the what now?
07:27:13earHurtsheads of bnald eagles.
07:27:23jandamanthe real deal?
07:27:55earHurtsyeah. I have this suv that runs on bald egale heads annd seal npups.
07:28:24 Quit tchan ("#rockbox")
07:28:34thuhey earHurts
07:28:41earHurtsyou a rockbox coder jandaman?
07:28:45earHurtshey thu.
07:28:46*thu unhappy −− emusic linux client won't work right
07:29:05earHurtswhat's it (not) doing?
07:29:44thu[Linux] thu@dusty thu $ emusicdlm
07:29:45thuSegmentation fault
07:30:13thuany questions? :P
07:30:16earHurtsno hope nbut to email emusic.
07:30:25earHurtssorry about that.
07:30:35thuit's probably some library thing
07:30:49thubut the executable is stripped
07:30:51thuno way to debug it
07:30:56thuthey suck :(
07:31:00earHurtsthey do.
07:31:19thualso I tried registering
07:31:25thubefore I realized the client was fscked
07:31:38thuand it kept telling me one of the fields in the form was wrong
07:31:49thu..the dropdown list with the type of CC
07:31:52earHurtswell, tell them their losing nmoney on you.
07:31:54thuin which I had selected visa
07:33:05earHurtser' they're
07:33:24thuyeah $10 /mo
07:33:26thuquite a fortune
07:34:10earHurtswell, i'm sure for every one who comnplains, there are 10 who just forget about it.
07:35:35earHurtsanynbody see hoffman's posts on the list?
07:36:15thuwho's hoffman and what is he posting?
07:36:32earHurtsa virtual nfile system nfor rocknbox
07:37:07thuwhy would that be useful?
07:37:26earHurtsit's like a super super playlist bnrowser
07:37:42thuI just want a xmms-like jump feature
07:37:56thuI rarely browse around the folders
07:37:58earHurtswhat's xmms njumo?
07:38:01thuthat much as I don't know what song is where
07:38:08thuearHurts: or winamp-style jump
07:38:30thuearHurts: you type in a few letter and it searches all titles for that
07:38:35earHurtswhat's winanmp jumnp?
07:39:06thuwhen I go from pc to archos I can't find any of my music
07:39:14thucuz I never know in what dir to look
07:39:15earHurtsserches in the playlist, or in the whole directory?
07:39:20thuthe whole drive
07:39:30thuwell.. playlist I guess
07:39:38thubut it works nice if you have everything in one playlist
07:40:10*thu wonders if playing mp3s hurts his rip process
07:40:59earHurtswinamp 2 uses anbout 3% of cpu
07:41:11earHurtswinamp 3 uses about 10%
07:41:26earHurtsdisk access also figures
07:41:59thuI run xmms not winamp
07:42:03thuwinamp 3 is crap anyway imho
07:42:20earHurtsi prefer winamp 2
07:42:23thume too
07:42:35earHurtshow would you type on rockbox
07:42:46thuthe same way you rename things
07:42:56thuthe arcade way
07:43:05thumove around, pick letters
07:44:01*thu wants a remote control for his fm recorder
07:44:12thuearHurts: any idea where I could get a remote from?
07:44:55earHurtshave you looked at the search patch?
07:46:56thubut I will now
07:47:12*thu comparing encoded mp3s with original
07:47:21thuthe darn encoded distorted some high tones
07:47:57thuI wish I were encoding radio crap and not instrumental
07:48:22*thu hates bad quality mp3s
07:49:16*thu realizes his extra stereo plugin was to blame and rejoices
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09:00:00thumornin tracktheripper
09:03:06PsycoXulrockbox keeps stopping in the middle of a track
09:03:23PsycoXuland just like getting stuck with the red light on, and then it usualy just stops and goes back the browser a few seconds later
09:03:28PsycoXulthough this time it seems to be stuck
09:05:00tracktheripperhow come I never get the Red Led Dead?
09:08:42tracktheripperi must be the only person in the Universe with a flawless Archso
09:08:46thuPsycoXul: corrupt file?
09:08:58PsycoXulthu: no
09:09:00thutracktheripper: is it a fm recorder?
09:09:05PsycoXulmine is
09:09:10tracktheripperno its a normal recorder
09:09:14thuPsycoXul: does your radio work ok?
09:09:23PsycoXulin general or in rockbox?
09:09:36thuin firmware
09:09:37PsycoXulin general it works just fine
09:09:41thuI didn't try it in rockbox
09:09:47thubleh mine doesn't :(
09:09:48PsycoXulin rockbox i haven't tried it in a while
09:09:57PsycoXulbut last time i tried it, it was overly loud
09:10:08thumine is overy bad
09:10:38thuit's like a bad radio w/out an antenna
09:10:54thuthat's how it sounds
09:10:56PsycoXulthe local station's here are pretty strong and fairly close
09:11:11PsycoXulthough it depends on how i hold the unit, my headphones, and the cord
09:11:12thuI should try it from underneath the radio antenna
09:11:56thuheh this reminds me of some places I used to touch my cell phone's antenna to the big gsm antennas
09:12:28tracktherippertry writing a "software" signal booster
09:12:32tracktheripperfor improved reception
09:12:39thuyeah.. a software radio station
09:13:03thuall I need is a text-to-speech app and a shuffler
09:13:08tracktheripperTwo FM Recorders got married, the wedding was boring but the reception was great :-)
09:13:23thuhmm I must try that
09:13:38thubut first I must find a female archos owner
09:13:59tracktheripperseems like no more freatures are being added to rockbox
09:15:01thuI'm still waiting for doom2
09:16:24tracktheripperand im still waiting to check my email on the archos........
09:17:01thuyeah.. a wifi-enabled archos would be nice
09:17:10thuso you can listen to live streams and record them live
09:17:43tracktheripperyou should reprogram the FM recorder to make it pick up TV as well as radio....
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11:29:28jimhaddonI need a bit of help with rockbox
11:35:39jimhaddonHELLO? please???
11:38:04PsycoXuljust ask
11:38:48jimhaddonI have the latest version of Rockbox from the CVS
11:39:03jimhaddonI cant figure out how to do this Deep Discharge
11:39:09jimhaddoncan you help me?
11:39:45PsycoXulnever used it
11:39:58PsycoXulbut seems like it'd be covered by the battery FAQ
11:40:49jimhaddoni kno, it says it should be in the System menu
11:40:51jimhaddonbut it isnt
11:41:31jimhaddonit says (recorder only)
11:41:36jimhaddoni have FM recorder
11:41:38jimhaddonis that why
11:41:49PsycoXulit's got a different kind of battery
11:41:57PsycoXulso not all the same charging stuff applies
11:42:09jimhaddono right
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15:42:48Stevie[FP]where the hell is everyone?
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16:40:19mikfreemorning/afternoon all
16:41:24mikfreequestion: I was reading on an archive that the rockbox team needed a Multimedia player to get schematics on
16:41:34mikfreeis this still the case?
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16:43:25mikfreejust checking, can anyone see me? I see the version I have is unregistered
16:44:27mikfreeif anyone can see me, just let me know, so i'll know it's working
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16:52:12quelsarukhi :)
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18:29:50Stevie[FP]is anyone ever gonna help me get some damn player roms?
18:34:51MiChAeLoLwhat kind?
18:36:15quelsarukthe studio roms
18:36:31Stevie[FP]there's more than one kind?
18:36:32MiChAeLoLneed to be more specific
18:37:28MiChAeLoLhmm studio roms?
18:38:55Stevie[FP]AFAIK there's only one kind of player
18:40:01MiChAeLoLchip8 roms?
18:40:10MiChAeLoLanyone know how to get chip8 to work with it?
18:40:41quelsarukMiChAeLoL: not a game ROM...
18:46:41MiChAeLoLare patches included in the daily cvs builds?
18:46:58hardeepMiChAeLoL: no
18:47:20MiChAeLoLso how would you add one?
18:48:35MiChAeLoLso it has to be done on linux?
18:48:49hardeepMiChAeLoL: you can do it on windows with cygwin
18:49:11MiChAeLoLwould be easier for me to do it on my linux xbox (dont want to install cygwin again)
18:49:48hardeepsee: for an easy cygwin installation for rockbox
18:51:26MiChAeLoLare there any requirements to compile it on a linux box?
18:51:32MiChAeLoLlike software that has to be installed?
18:53:59MiChAeLoLi dont need the gdb debugger do i?
18:54:20hardeeponly if you want to debug over serial
18:54:32hardeep(which would first require a modification of your jukebox)
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18:55:42MiChAeLoLwill gcc work fine or do i need gcc 3.0?
18:55:55MiChAeLoLnever mind i have 3.2.2
18:56:00MiChAeLoLwill that work?
18:56:58hardeepfor building the tools, probably
18:57:29hardeepbut you also need to build a cross compiler... for those, use the versions specified on the website
18:57:47MiChAeLoLdamn sourceforge is down
18:57:53quelsarukMiChAeLoL: you should use 3.0
18:58:08quelsarukfor the crosscompiler
18:58:19MiChAeLoLdo i need to compile it myself if im gunna appily patches?
18:58:42quelsarukbut it's easy
18:58:48MiChAeLoLcross compiler?
18:59:05quelsarukread that doc :)
18:59:27MiChAeLoLalready have binutils-2.11.tar.gz (find it at your closest GNU FTP site)
18:59:27MiChAeLoLgcc-3.0.4.tar.gz (find it at your closest GNU FTP site)
19:00:35*Stevie[FP] is away [f00d] [KS-MsgLog Off]
19:01:38MiChAeLoLwhat is the cvs code to get the stuff?
19:01:52MiChAeLoLcvs -d:pserver@anonymous... dont know what comes after that
19:02:20hardeep(sensing a pattern here? :) )
19:03:18*MiChAeLoL adds that to his favorites
19:03:43quelsarukMiChAeLoL: add to your favourites ;)
19:03:57Stevie[FP]add rtfm to your favorites?
19:04:19MiChAeLoLwhats the password?
19:04:24MiChAeLoLit wouldnt let me log in
19:04:33MiChAeLoLCVS password:
19:04:33MiChAeLoLcvs [login aborted]: recv() from server EOF
19:05:00quelsarukthat happens a lot
19:05:03quelsaruktry again
19:05:26MiChAeLoLlol connection reset by peer
19:05:44MiChAeLoLim in :D
19:06:25MiChAeLoLhehe getting it
19:06:52quelsarukbe sure to get all the source
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19:10:59MiChAeLoLhow do i run the script in the build directory?
19:11:09MiChAeLoLi typed ./thefulllocation but it didnt work
19:11:39quelsarukMiChAeLoL: ../tools/configure
19:11:55quelsarukif i undesrtood you correctly
19:12:25MiChAeLoLwhich debug normal simulated?
19:12:28MiChAeLoLwhats simulated?
19:12:56*MiChAeLoL compiles it
19:14:00MiChAeLoLdamn make: *** [firmware] Error 2
19:14:13MiChAeLoLmake[1]: sh-elf-gcc: Command not found
19:14:21MiChAeLoLthats the problem
19:14:28MiChAeLoLwhere do i get that
19:14:36hardeepyou never built the cross compiler did you
19:14:46MiChAeLoLnot from the source
19:14:52hardeepthere you go
19:15:17hardeepfollow the instructions on the web page (all of them) before you begin building
19:15:18quelsarukMiChAeLoL: you should build de cross compiler before you can compile rockbox
19:15:56MiChAeLoLi already have binutils and gcc installed tho
19:16:45hardeepfor your PC, not for the SH1 processor on the jukebox
19:16:56MiChAeLoLits a special version?
19:17:06MiChAeLoLok, ill wget it and install it
19:17:27MiChAeLoLwhere could i get the special version?
19:19:11quelsarukMiChAeLoL: read
19:19:24quelsarukplease... read it carefuly
19:19:41quelsarukcu later...
19:20:08MiChAeLoLive read it
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19:20:15MiChAeLoLjust cant find where to download
19:20:34quel|outMiChAeLoL: you have to build the cross-compiler yourself
19:20:45MiChAeLoLbut where do i download teh source?
19:20:49MiChAeLoLfor the cross-compiler
19:20:51quel|outwhich source?
19:20:57MiChAeLoLwhat i need to buiold it
19:20:58MiChAeLoLbuild it
19:21:03quel|outyou need to download binutils and gcc
19:21:10MiChAeLoLfrom where?
19:21:27MiChAeLoLcant find a source download link
19:21:40MiChAeLoLwhile either way im gunna go play basketball
19:21:54MiChAeLoLdont have my player yet (its still in the mail) so its not that important
19:22:06quel|outfind it at your closest GNU FTP site
19:22:26quel|outdo you have a player??
19:22:30quel|outor a recorder??
19:23:18quel|outif you have a player (studio version) you can't use chip8 games..
19:23:24quel|outthey are just for recorder version
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20:51:32*Stevie[FP] is back from [f00d] [gone 1hr 50mins 57secs] [KS]
20:52:36Stevie[FP]I need player ROMs
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20:58:58Stevie[FP]hey hardeep
21:00:59Stevie[FP]where the hell is everyone
21:01:15Stevie[FP]since Friday i've asked TWO people for player roms
21:01:22Stevie[FP]so far I've got zilch
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21:10:58tracktherippercalling Planet Rockbox
21:12:19tracktherippertracktheripper is the only person with some spirit here ;-)
21:14:01tracktheripperplug a webcam into its USB and use it as a camcorder!
21:16:19Stevie[FP]or the only person who needs ritalin?
21:16:26*tracktheripper laughs
21:19:44tracktheripperanyone home?
21:19:46tracktheripperanyone alive?
21:27:12tracktheripperanyone dead?
21:29:04Stevie[FP]ask questions like 'anyone with a Player?'
21:29:14tracktheripperanyone with an Archos?
21:29:35Stevie[FP]i need the damn rom images
21:31:39tracktheripperi want more features added :-)
21:31:41hardeepStevie[FP]: why not post a message to the mailing list? i'm sure someone will provide you with one
21:32:36Stevie[FP]I already emailed two people
21:32:57Stevie[FP]but I guess it'd be more effective :-o
21:40:29Stevie[FP]I wonder if the speed of the bitswap routine is significant
21:45:29*Stevie[FP] wanders around idly
21:45:34Stevie[FP]where the hell are Z and L
21:45:41Stevie[FP]they're the only guys who know anything
21:55:13*Stevie[FP] shoots nerf guns at people
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21:56:08Stevie[FP]or B!
21:56:25ZagorB? :)
21:56:30Stevie[FP]for Bjoern
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21:56:40Zagorah. i looked for bagder :)
21:57:04Stevie[FP]how goes it?
21:57:27Zagorfine. just back from a boule tournament where I got 2nd place. whee! ;)
21:57:39*Stevie[FP] has no idea what a boule is
22:00:01Zagorboule is a sport. let me see if i can find a link.
22:00:17Zagoror perhaps more a game than a sport..
22:00:25Zagorwhatever the distinction is
22:01:25Stevie[FP]in English the distinction is generally the presence or absence of physical activity
22:01:44Stevie[FP]i.e. baseball is a 'sport' while chess is a game
22:02:02Zagorwell, we do throw 710g balls <10m so there's some amount of physical activity :)
22:02:41Zagori guess perhaps petanque is the more recognised word for it. is a web page
22:07:10Stevie[FP]hey −− d'ya happen to have those player ROMs handy? :D
22:07:20Zagori'll fix'em. hang on.
22:09:56Zagorargh, bad batteries.
22:10:50Zagoryou haven't implemented the player lcd already, have you?
22:11:05Stevie[FP]i had that done Friday afternoon (my time) :P
22:11:27Zagorthe only thing keeping you back :)
22:11:27Stevie[FP]which is why I was wishing I'd asked you for the roms before I wrote it, so that I'd have something to test when it was done
22:11:52Stevie[FP]that and my lack of knowledge about the HW
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22:23:56Stevie[FP]so you have the ability to directly debug a Player?
22:26:15Stevie[FP]so whats wrong with the batteries?
22:26:34Zagornothing, but the charger on the player is busted
22:26:56tracktheripperhello Zag
22:27:01tracktheripperwhats up dude?
22:27:07Zagornothing special
22:27:20tracktheripperZag what is the point of the 8Mb buffer mod if it offers no real benefits?
22:28:08Zagorit offers a few hours more battery time
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22:29:26tracktheripperZagor what kind of internet connection u have?
22:29:39Stevie[FP]he has his own personal oc-256
22:30:08tracktheripperyea i have dsl as well
22:30:28Zagori hope to get vdsl soon. 26 mbit!
22:30:30tracktheripperworks better than the cable modems ;-)
22:30:48Stevie[FP]sometimes my modem connects as high as 26 kbit!
22:31:03tracktheripperthe problem with cable modems is the shared bandwitch
22:31:15Stevie[FP]there is no problem with cable modems
22:31:20Stevie[FP]the problem lies with crappy cable companies
22:31:26Stevie[FP]my friend in Canada
22:31:31Stevie[FP]I once plugged into her network
22:31:33Stevie[FP]and ran Ethereal
22:31:38Stevie[FP](god bless winpcap)
22:31:40tracktheripperbut the bandwidth is still shared
22:31:52tracktheripperwith dsl all the bandwitth is yoiurs
22:31:57Stevie[FP]I saw ARP requests for all the other cable users
22:31:58Zagorethernet is always shared
22:32:21tracktheripperits a pain when everyone is using Kazaa
22:32:23|nsomniaci am having oproblems with the rockbox os.. can someone help ?
22:32:25tracktheripperit eats bandwitdh for breakfast
22:32:26Stevie[FP]I actually found a guy who was portscanning the network cuz I saw the pattern of ARPs for,,
22:32:38Zagor|nsomniac: tell us your problem
22:32:40Stevie[FP]problems? with rockbox?
22:33:08|nsomniaci have sorted the music into folders, cant get access to the actual mp3 files in each folder
22:33:13|nsomniacthe screen turns up blank
22:33:25Stevie[FP]do they say 'dir buffer full'?
22:33:25|nsomniacwtf is wrong..
22:33:41Zagorsounds very strange
22:34:12Stevie[FP]sounds like a job for the one-day-to-exist Emulator!
22:34:14|nsomniaccomforting ..
22:34:40Zagor|nsomniac: did you call the files *.mp3 ?
22:34:53Zagortry F2->show files->all
22:36:02|nsomniacomg.. noob mistake :D
22:36:08Zagormp3 files must be called *.mp3 to be seen
22:36:14|nsomniacthanks btw :)
22:36:15Zagorand recognized as music files
22:36:19Stevie[FP]or played I would assume
22:36:33tracktheripperyou twit insominac!
22:37:13|nsomniacmust be the heat
22:37:37Zagorwhat was the error?
22:38:57|nsomniacprobably forgotten to put it on show music files..
22:39:05|nsomniaconly show playlists
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22:39:56*tracktheripper teaches insominaic a lesson
22:42:01tracktheripperRecording still has lots of room for improvement
22:42:30Stevie[FP]wouldn't that be the fault of the Archos?
22:42:49Zagoralmost everything has room for improvement
22:43:06Stevie[FP]that reminds me
22:43:18Stevie[FP]Z, does the speed of bitswap routine matter all that much?
22:44:53Zagorwe take it into account when filling the buffer. it takes at least a good second to bitswap the whole buffer
22:46:15Stevie[FP]because I believe I've come up with a new bitswap routine that runs roughly twice as fast
22:46:18tracktheripperi mean, no ID3 tag editing, ridiculous recording file-names, all recordings dumped in root......
22:46:26ZagorStevie[FP]: sounds interesting
22:46:32Stevie[FP]plus it has no table lookup
22:46:47Zagor...sounds too good to be true ;-)
22:46:51Stevie[FP]tis not
22:46:53Stevie[FP]I did the math
22:46:55Stevie[FP]counted cycles!
22:47:09tracktheripperbring back the demos!
22:47:25Stevie[FP]it's even faster than if we did a table lookup for 16 bits at a time
22:47:57Zagordid you find a way to invert the bits in an instruction?
22:49:16Stevie[FP]actually I found an algorithm that's order log2(N)
22:49:39Stevie[FP]since we're reversing 8 bits at a time, that's 3 steps
22:50:00Stevie[FP]the nice part is, it can be done 4 bytes at a time
22:50:17Stevie[FP]I actually wound up with the same # of cycles in the main loop as the current bitswap routine
22:50:29Stevie[FP]however, my method does 32 bits at a time instead of 16
22:50:41Stevie[FP]so it takes half the time
22:50:53Zagorgoodie. please post it to the patch tracker
22:51:08Stevie[FP]well I don't even know if I wrote it right yet :-o
22:51:33Stevie[FP]I had to guess at most things
22:51:43Stevie[FP]based on the assembler already present
22:52:55Stevie[FP]it also it uses some fairly clever tricks
22:53:19Stevie[FP]it uses 'subv' to decrement the bytes_left register
22:53:33Stevie[FP]or subc
22:54:24Stevie[FP]when properly primed, T remains at 0 throughout the entire loop, until we have less than 4 bytes remaining
22:54:51Stevie[FP]which effectively combines the subtraction and comparison into a single cycle :D
22:55:35Stevie[FP]I noticed the code does at most 64KB at a time
22:56:21Stevie[FP]counting cycles that would seem to take the original bitswap routine about 60ms to process
22:56:23Zagoryes, we need to yeild to let other code run. otherwise the scroll etc. will freeze for the entire time the swapping is in progress.
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22:57:43Stevie[FP]I need to come up with a good test routine to make sure my bitswap routine works right
22:58:02Stevie[FP](if the only goal was speed then a simple 'rts nop' would suffice :P)
22:59:14Zagorcan't you test with the real unit? badly swapped data will sound horrible, or be quiet
23:02:51Stevie[FP]invalid operands for opcode
23:03:50Stevie[FP]oh, you can only cmp/eq with r0?
23:04:05Zagordunno. i don't know the sh-1 asm by heart
23:05:27MiChAeLoLanyone have a dl link for the /home/linus> tar zxf binutils-2.11.tar.gz
23:05:27MiChAeLoL /home/linus> tar zxf gcc-3.0.4.tar.gz
23:05:50MiChAeLoLwant to add the chip8 emulator to mine (once it gets here
23:05:53ZagorMiChAeLoL: all gnu mirrors have those
23:06:05MiChAeLoLand its the source right?
23:06:15*MiChAeLoL is gunna put it on an xbox running debian
23:07:22MiChAeLoLwhat website do you recomend i get it from?
23:13:51Stevie[FP]can I assume I won't be getting values over 0x7FFFFFFF (2147483647) for the 'length' argument to bitswap?
23:14:25MiChAeLoLfound it
23:15:28ZagorStevie[FP]: hehe, probably not.
23:15:46Stevie[FP]okay :)
23:16:01Stevie[FP]then I can use cmp/pl ('x>0', but signed)
23:18:00MiChAeLoLis there a limit to how many patches i can have on a build?
23:18:08MiChAeLoLfor the fm recorder version
23:18:14Stevie[FP]god this cpu sux
23:19:19ZagorMiChAeLoL: no, although the firmware can't be >200KB
23:19:33MiChAeLoLso i can have it all
23:19:53Zagoryes, but you'll get conflicts trying to add them all to the same build
23:19:53MiChAeLoLlol... i think ill just put the chip8 emu the playlist queue and the search for songs thing on it
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23:20:40MiChAeLoLwould i be able to put those 3 patches on the same build?
23:22:37Zagortheoretically, yes, but you will likely have to do a bit of manual work to resolve conflicts
23:22:58ZagorStevie[FP]: weird bug, the rom files on the player become 0 bytes large...
23:24:25Stevie[FP]the rom can't be in a different place, can it?
23:25:00Zagorno, this is probably just a bad file system
23:25:11MiChAeLoLbuilding binutils right now
23:25:31MiChAeLoLcan i store 2 different patched roms on it?
23:25:36MiChAeLoLand switch between them
23:25:51MiChAeLoLor rather 2 different patched firmwares
23:26:06MiChAeLoLso i could have one with the chip8 another with the search
23:26:12MiChAeLoLand forget the other junk
23:26:35MiChAeLoLcan i have it boot the firmware if its not named the exact name?
23:27:06Zagorit boots ajbrec.ajz at powerup, but then you can select any .ajz file you wish in the browser
23:27:17ZagorStevie[FP]: got it
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23:27:39MiChAeLoLso i should make the default ajbrec.ajz a really light version
23:27:53MiChAeLoLso if i just want to listen to stuff the battery lasts a long time
23:28:01Zagoryeah, that could be a good idea
23:28:36*MiChAeLoL waits for it to make itself
23:29:25*MiChAeLoL cant wait for his fm recorder to ship to him
23:29:38MiChAeLoLlol... ill have my own versions of it compiled before i even get it
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23:29:52ZagorMiChAeLoL: that's the spirit! :-)
23:29:53MiChAeLoLwhich firmware has faster usb transfer rates?
23:30:09Zagorusb is not firmware related, it's handled completely in hardware
23:30:14MiChAeLoLwell i did spend 222 bucks on it i better be excited
23:30:40MiChAeLoLso if i ever upgrade the hard drive, the speed might be faster?
23:30:41Pluedo you have usb 2?
23:30:44MiChAeLoLi think so
23:30:51MiChAeLoLhow would i tell?
23:31:00Pluelook inside your case
23:31:00MiChAeLoLis usb 2 a hardware thing or a software thing?
23:31:07MiChAeLoLcause it uses the same ports right?
23:31:22Plueif the ports are in your motherboard, prolly not usb 2
23:31:38MiChAeLoLhmmm 4 usb ports, not sure if any are usb 2 tho
23:31:40Zagorunless it's a very new motherboard
23:31:43Plueif you have a seperate card, check it out, could be usb 2... you can buy a cheap card from radio shack
23:31:46MiChAeLoLdamn, that means its gunna be slow
23:31:58MiChAeLoLmight install a cheap card
23:31:58Plueits not that slow
23:32:00Pluejust faster with usb 2
23:32:09MiChAeLoLone is like 2 mb and the other is like 8 right?
23:32:27PlueAny of you guys use an fm transmitter with your archos?
23:32:28Zagorusb1.1 is 1MB and usb2 is 6-10
23:32:51MiChAeLoLopening my computer up right now
23:33:09Pluesink yourself. :-P
23:33:40Plueif you dont have an fm transmitter for your archos, check out the irock one
23:33:46Plueits 30 bucks, and super frickin cool
23:33:48Stevie[FP]no sound
23:34:07MiChAeLoLfm transmitter?
23:34:13MiChAeLoLwas gunna make one
23:34:28MiChAeLoLhow far does it transmit?
23:34:29Pluethe irock one has about a 50 - 60 foot range
23:34:43MiChAeLoLdo you put it inside?
23:34:51Pluennnoo no no
23:34:54Plueit plugs in like headphones
23:35:10MiChAeLoLdoes rockbox support it?
23:35:16Pluea transmitter node small enough to fit inside would suck
23:35:23Pluenothin to do with it
23:35:30Plueit works like a set of headphones
23:35:36Stevie[FP]everybody cross yer fingahz
23:35:47Pluewhats up stevie? your player broke? :(
23:36:21MiChAeLoLhmmm its a seperate chip... but i think thats because its firewire on the same place
23:36:24Pluealllllllright, i gotta get on mIRC before this unregistered jpilot thing makes me so mad i take a dump in my chair
23:36:52Stevie[FP]what's at 0x06?
23:36:57MiChAeLoLwhile gunna close it up
23:37:20ZagorStevie[FP]: cpu bus address 0x00000006 ?
23:37:47MiChAeLoLhow much is a usb 2.0 chip?
23:37:50Pluewhat server am i on here?
23:37:55Pluelike 30 or 40 bucks
23:38:03Stevie[FP]the highest nybble is ignored
23:38:10Stevie[FP]the '6' is for chip select
23:38:21Stevie[FP]it's trying to write to memory and failing cuz i have nothing attached there
23:39:09Stevie[FP]pc is 0x09008de0 at this point
23:39:29 Quit Plue ("Leaving")
23:40:01ZagorStevie[FP]: external i/o. the ata is at 0x061
23:40:35Stevie[FP]I must have the display code wrong
23:41:06Stevie[FP]how is the Player display wired again?
23:41:30Zagorthe same as the recorder display. serial i/o
23:41:41Stevie[FP]yes but I thought the pinouts were different
23:41:45Zagormmm, right
23:42:19Zagorlook in lcd.c, you'll see the difference. only some swapped pins.
23:42:42MiChAeLoLso can i change the bootup screen?
23:42:54ZagorMiChAeLoL: yes, by changing the source
23:43:00MiChAeLoLthought so
23:43:08Stevie[FP]whats 'rs'?
23:43:20Zagorsame as DS
23:43:23Zagor#define LCD_DS LCD_RS
23:43:31MiChAeLoLcant wait to add all the different versions with different patches
23:43:41MiChAeLoLwill it mess it up if i have like 10 adj files on it?
23:43:44Zagorcan't remember what the RS came from
23:44:14ZagorMiChAeLoL: no, you can keep any number you want. just don't call them archos*.ajz because the archos firmware doesn't do a complete name comparison
23:45:08Stevie[FP]i had sda and sck flipped
23:45:24MiChAeLoLso i could call one like search.ajz and another like chip8.ajz
23:45:30ZagorMiChAeLoL: yes
23:45:46MiChAeLoL looks good, but i think i would just use a fake tape
23:46:10MiChAeLoLgcc takes a long time to compile
23:46:13Zagorfrom what i heard, "fake tapes" give better sound than fm modulators
23:46:26ZagorI have never tried an fm modulator myself though
23:46:29MiChAeLoLand are cheaper
23:46:36MiChAeLoLbut fm modular is cooler
23:46:47MiChAeLoLno tape hastle
23:47:10Zagoryou get tuning hassle instead, apparently
23:47:37MiChAeLoLwill me having a different version of gcc installed on my linux box mess up the install of this other one?
23:47:46MiChAeLoLor not because its not refered to as gcc
23:48:32Zagorwhat version do you have?
23:48:51MiChAeLoLa newer one
23:48:57MiChAeLoL3. something
23:49:22Zagorit will probably work
23:49:37MiChAeLoLlol... first rockbox firmware compilied off an xbox
23:50:02MiChAeLoLis there anything wrong with frequently loading lots of different firmwares in rockbox?
23:50:07MiChAeLoLlike will it mess it up?
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23:50:37MiChAeLoLok good
23:50:52Zagoras you can imagine, we developers sometimes load dozens of new versions each day
23:50:56MiChAeLoLdamn gcc takes forever to compile on an xbox
23:50:56jimhaddoncan someone help me wiv a problem
23:51:10Zagorjimhaddon: perhaps, if you describe the problem :)
23:51:15jimhaddonokie dokie
23:51:38MiChAeLoL/tmp/ccwsKnQs.s:118: Error: no such instruction: `shar r4'
23:51:38MiChAeLoL/tmp/ccwsKnQs.s:121: Error: no such instruction: `rts'
23:51:38DBUGSent KICK MiChAeLoL to server
23:51:38MiChAeLoLmake[2]: *** [libgcc/./_ashiftrt.o] Error 1
23:51:38MiChAeLoLmake[2]: Leaving directory `/archos/build/gcc/gcc'
23:51:38***Alert Mode level 1
23:51:38DBUGsent MODE #rockbox +b *!*michael@*
23:51:38MiChAeLoLmake[1]: *** [stmp-multilib] Error 2
23:51:38Kick(#rockbox MiChAeLoL :No flooding!) by logbot!
23:51:38***Alert Mode level 2
23:51:38Mode"#rockbox +b *!*michael@* " by logbot (
23:51:45jimhaddonis deep discharge only on the recorder, not on the FM?
23:52:01Zagorjimhaddon: correct. we can't control charging on the fm
23:52:21>>>"unban *!*michael@*" by Zagor (
23:52:22jimhaddonok ta
23:52:24Stevie[FP]I must have something wrong here
23:52:29>>>"pass" used by Zagor ( [snoop prevented]
23:52:31>>>"unban *!*michael@*" by Zagor (
23:52:31DBUGsent MODE #rockbox -b *!*michael@*
23:52:31Mode"#rockbox -b *!*michael@* " by logbot (
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23:52:45ZagorMiChAeLoL: don't paste in the channel. logbot gets angry :)
23:52:48MiChAeLoLshould probably be more careful
23:52:49MiChAeLoLi see
23:53:06jimhaddonwho made logbot
23:53:15MiChAeLoLi think im just gunna have to install cygwin
23:53:19Zagorlooong ago, during the big irc wars
23:53:51jimhaddonu guys, are rather clever aint ya
23:54:03Zagorjimhaddon: some say so
23:54:09Stevie[FP]big irc wars?
23:54:15MiChAeLoL yep
23:54:30MiChAeLoL is it easier to compile in cygwin?
23:54:59jimhaddonwel, im off everyone. cyas later
23:55:01 Part jimhaddon
23:55:17MiChAeLoLi guess ill try the cygwin
23:56:18MiChAeLoL44 clone bots
23:56:35***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
23:57:11Stevie[FP]44 clones?
23:57:13Stevie[FP]that's it?
23:57:38Stevie[FP]you guys haven't pissed off the some of the more nasty characters in this world
23:57:47Zagori don't have historical docs. all I know is irc is a lot calmer nowadays.
23:58:08MiChAeLoL"If you have LINUX available, stop reading ! You won`t need this stuff, won`t you ? USE LINUX ! :) " guess my linux wont work
23:58:30ZagorMiChAeLoL: try using the recommended program versions. then it works.

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