| 00:01:39 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 00:01:48 | Stevie[FP] | I have bizarre data in my ddram buffer |
| 00:01:57 | Stevie[FP] | 'Nyoifs|$:KF$$' |
| 00:02:06 | Stevie[FP] | I must be doing something wrong |
| 00:03:03 | MiChAeLoL | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html <−− do i do step 4 in dos? |
| 00:03:37 | Zagor | well, in a command line window |
| 00:04:05 | MiChAeLoL | yep |
| 00:07:20 | Stevie[FP] | wtf |
| 00:09:25 | MiChAeLoL | do i need to Download rockbox-tools.tar.bz2 ? |
| 00:09:39 | Zagor | yes |
| 00:10:50 | MiChAeLoL | have made 2 scripts wich will make CVS handling easy for you where are these scripts? |
| 00:11:53 | Zagor | ignore that. read the cvs link instead |
| 00:12:32 | MiChAeLoL | should i just do a normal cvs checkout then |
| 00:12:35 | Zagor | yes |
| 00:12:36 | MiChAeLoL | nm |
| 00:12:37 | MiChAeLoL | got |
| 00:12:38 | MiChAeLoL | it |
| 00:13:05 | Stevie[FP] | is there something nonobvious that the player lcd code is doing? |
| 00:13:58 | Zagor | not that I can think of right now |
| 00:14:15 | Stevie[FP] | ok... |
| 00:14:26 | MiChAeLoL | login aborted: cannot create socket (any ideas?) |
| 00:15:08 | MiChAeLoL | it says operation not permitted |
| 00:15:20 | Stevie[FP] | then something is fscked |
| 00:15:26 | Stevie[FP] | what does this hw display on bootup? |
| 00:15:29 | MiChAeLoL | ? |
| 00:15:38 | MiChAeLoL | so there is no way for me to compile it? |
| 00:16:26 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: "Jukebox 6GB\nVer : 4.13" |
| 00:16:43 | Stevie[FP] | mh |
| 00:16:45 | Zagor | MiChAeLoL: if you can't get cvs to work, grab a daily tarball |
| 00:16:47 | Stevie[FP] | that's nothing even close to what I see :( |
| 00:17:01 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 00:17:05 | Stevie[FP] | † |
| 00:17:07 | Stevie[FP] | º |
| 00:17:20 | Stevie[FP] | N |
| 00:17:27 | Stevie[FP] | 0100 1110 |
| 00:18:08 | Stevie[FP] | if that should say J... J is 0100 1010 |
| 00:18:39 | Stevie[FP] | 'y' is 0111 1001 |
| 00:19:01 | Stevie[FP] | 'u' is 0111 0101 |
| 00:19:30 | Zagor | and DS is asserted? |
| 00:19:43 | Stevie[FP] | 'o' is 0110 1111 -> 'k' is 0110 1011 |
| 00:19:56 | Stevie[FP] | its like a few of the bits are wrong |
| 00:19:58 | MiChAeLoL | are any of the files from the source supposed to be in folders? |
| 00:20:14 | Zagor | MiChAeLoL: yes, there's a tree structure |
| 00:20:58 | Stevie[FP] | I think you guys should note that, as some of us turn *off* folder processing |
| 00:21:36 | Zagor | well, source archives pretty much invariably contain directories |
| 00:21:37 | Stevie[FP] | especially for stuff made by Linux people, since they have a rather annoying tendency to put everything in a subdir (convenient for untarring, inconvenient for unzipping) |
| 00:21:47 | Stevie[FP] | well |
| 00:21:51 | Stevie[FP] | I was thinking about the rockbox install zip |
| 00:22:00 | Zagor | ah, ok |
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| 00:24:07 | MiChAeLoL | damn |
| 00:24:16 | MiChAeLoL | its not in a tree directory for me |
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| 00:27:24 | MiChAeLoL | damn i cant extract anything |
| 00:27:28 | MiChAeLoL | gives me error messages |
| 00:27:32 | MiChAeLoL | with no message |
| 00:28:01 | MiChAeLoL | mabye i could set up an ftp server, and get it from my linux box |
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| 00:32:19 | Stevie[FP] | 4a |
| 00:32:25 | Stevie[FP] | J |
| 00:32:28 | Stevie[FP] | now that's strange |
| 00:32:38 | Stevie[FP] | it turns 0x4A into 0x4E before sending it to the thing |
| 00:32:41 | Stevie[FP] | there MUST be a conversion table |
| 00:34:34 | Zagor | ah, yes. sorry forgot to tell you... :-) |
| 00:34:43 | Stevie[FP] | gee, thanks ;) |
| 00:35:25 | Stevie[FP] | it looks largely normal but for shifting the entire character set forward by about 5 bytes? |
| 00:35:28 | Zagor | see bottom of page http://rockbox.haxx.se/notes.html |
| 00:35:29 | Zagor | yes |
| 00:35:30 | MiChAeLoL | hehe problem solved |
| 00:37:13 | Stevie[FP] | ok, now I just need to find out why I'm not drawing anything correctly :P |
| 00:42:12 | MiChAeLoL | damn cygwin wont let me view files that wernt made by cygwin |
| 00:42:25 | MiChAeLoL | rockbox-daily-20030609 |
| 00:42:45 | MiChAeLoL | i pasted the folder with all the files in in windows... and cygwin just says "invalid folder" |
| 00:42:54 | MiChAeLoL | or rather invalid directory |
| 00:43:29 | Zagor | pasted? |
| 00:43:34 | MiChAeLoL | yep |
| 00:43:37 | MiChAeLoL | and typed |
| 00:43:39 | MiChAeLoL | either way |
| 00:43:49 | MiChAeLoL | i even renamed the folder nice and easy so i could type it right |
| 00:43:54 | MiChAeLoL | still wont let me view the contents |
| 00:44:00 | Zagor | unpack it: tar xzf rockbox-daily-20030609.tar.gz |
| 00:45:01 | Stevie[FP] | so wait |
| 00:45:17 | Stevie[FP] | is the old display controller different from the 1801? |
| 00:45:23 | MiChAeLoL | cannot open: no such file or directory |
| 00:45:25 | MiChAeLoL | and its right there |
| 00:45:33 | MiChAeLoL | cygwin is messed up |
| 00:45:39 | MiChAeLoL | the last time i installed it it crashed my computer |
| 00:45:54 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: slightly, yes. but just in the character rom setup. |
| 00:46:10 | MiChAeLoL | i dont think theres a point in me compiling this |
| 00:46:14 | Stevie[FP] | the code here has more than that |
| 00:46:28 | MiChAeLoL | guess i wont get to use the search feature or chip8 emu ;( |
| 00:46:29 | Zagor | such as? |
| 00:46:40 | Stevie[FP] | different contrast set command? |
| 00:46:56 | Stevie[FP] | top of lcd-player.c... |
| 00:47:18 | Zagor | right. there's also a double-height command in the new that's not available in the old. |
| 00:47:38 | Stevie[FP] | I get an unrecognized command 0x61 at the beginning |
| 00:47:45 | MiChAeLoL | i think its that it wont let me execute cygwin |
| 00:47:47 | Stevie[FP] | it doesn't exist according to my 1801 docs |
| 00:47:53 | MiChAeLoL | cause when i type ls it does nothing |
| 00:48:20 | MiChAeLoL | damn this is annoying |
| 00:48:29 | MiChAeLoL | lol.. could someone just compile it for me |
| 00:48:30 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: we're not 100% certain it is an 1801 at all. it's just the closest match we've found. |
| 00:48:49 | Stevie[FP] | oic |
| 00:48:52 | Stevie[FP] | well wait |
| 00:49:03 | Stevie[FP] | haven't you opened yours up? |
| 00:49:30 | Zagor | yes, but the player lcd isn't as clearly marked as the recorder one. |
| 00:49:35 | Stevie[FP] | ah. |
| 00:49:44 | Zagor | the player lcd is custom made for archos, while the recorder lcd is off-the-shelf |
| 00:50:27 | Stevie[FP] | ahh OK |
| 00:51:26 | MiChAeLoL | grrr screw it |
| 00:51:33 | * | MiChAeLoL left to eat |
| 00:52:03 | Stevie[FP] | hmm |
| 00:52:27 | Stevie[FP] | perhaps it's not even a Solomon |
| 00:52:35 | Zagor | perhaps not |
| 00:52:48 | Stevie[FP] | since the 1801 is the ONLY one they had |
| 00:52:55 | Stevie[FP] | that's a charcell |
| 00:53:21 | Stevie[FP] | btw |
| 00:53:30 | Stevie[FP] | did you know it doesn't display the "Version" string until *after* it accesses the HD? |
| 00:53:50 | Zagor | nope |
| 00:54:02 | Stevie[FP] | now ya do |
| 00:54:09 | Zagor | :) |
| 00:54:30 | Stevie[FP] | all I have is 'Jukebox 6gb' |
| 00:54:39 | Zagor | ok |
| 00:55:48 | Stevie[FP] | ok, bbl |
| 00:55:50 | * | Stevie[FP] is away [gawn] [KS-MsgLog Off] |
| 00:55:57 | Stevie[FP] | gotta go setup a linux bawx |
| 00:56:34 | Zagor | i'm off to bed. see you tomorrow |
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| 01:41:24 | earHurts | how nmany buttons does the player have? |
| 01:42:50 | PsycoXul | 6 |
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| 01:48:48 | LinusN | Stevie[FP]: the player lcd chip is probably a samsung |
| 01:54:29 | LinusN | the new player is probably S6A0093A (http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/SystemLSI/DDI/MobileDDI/BWSTN/S6A0093A/S6A0093A.htm) |
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| 02:01:07 | tracktheripper | evening all |
| 02:03:09 | tracktheripper | hi linusn |
| 02:04:03 | LinusN | hi |
| 02:04:09 | tracktheripper | hi linuxn |
| 02:04:41 | LinusN | Stevie[FP]: old player is s6a0090 (http://www.orientdisplay.com/controller_and_driver/S6A0090.pdf) |
| 02:05:30 | tracktheripper | LinusN the UISimulator should be provided on the site as a simple installation .exe file |
| 02:05:34 | tracktheripper | much more idiot-proof |
| 02:08:21 | tracktheripper | what do u think? |
| 02:08:47 | tracktheripper | so you can easily open ajbrec.ajz files into it |
| 02:08:59 | tracktheripper | and see how they function and if they need any tweaking |
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| 02:12:34 | LinusN | tracktheripper: you don't know what the uisimulator is, do you? |
| 02:12:55 | tracktheripper | yes I do |
| 02:13:44 | tracktheripper | its a software emulation of the interfaces on the Player and Recorder |
| 02:14:07 | LinusN | so why do you think you can open an ajbrec.ajz in it? |
| 02:14:44 | tracktheripper | so you can see how it runs before putting it on a JB machine |
| 02:14:47 | LinusN | it is a simulator, not an emulator |
| 02:15:33 | tracktheripper | okays |
| 02:15:56 | tracktheripper | im sure my request will be r*j*cted sooner or later :P |
| 02:16:04 | LinusN | the uisimulator is the rockbox firmware, with added glue to display in a window |
| 02:16:25 | tracktheripper | oh righty |
| 02:16:26 | LinusN | however, Stevie[FP] is working on an emulator |
| 02:16:32 | tracktheripper | ahhh! |
| 02:16:42 | tracktheripper | An Emulatior would bve very handy indeed |
| 02:16:58 | tracktheripper | so my request should be "Pending" then! |
| 02:17:50 | tracktheripper | Linus Would Retro-Record work on the Recorders?]# |
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| 02:18:59 | tracktheripper | Linus there is a numberplate L1 NUS for sale in London for £22,000 |
| 02:20:01 | tracktheripper | if you do my "Reshuffle when repeating playlist" request ill buy u that plate :-) |
| 02:20:29 | LinusN | :-) |
| 02:20:57 | tracktheripper | (-: |
| 02:21:05 | LinusN | retro-record works on all recorders |
| 02:21:18 | tracktheripper | will it be implemented on the normal Recorders? |
| 02:21:33 | LinusN | yes |
| 02:21:41 | hardeep | blah, we need to change ON+PLAY to some other key sequence not involving PLAY for playlist options... one slip and your playlist is gone |
| 02:21:44 | tracktheripper | cool! |
| 02:21:50 | tracktheripper | night night |
| 02:21:50 | tracktheripper | :X |
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| 02:30:49 | earHurts | this emulator, does stevie plan to release it? |
| 02:31:16 | LinusN | i guess so |
| 02:31:21 | LinusN | gotta sleep, nite all |
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| 02:38:49 | earHurts | hardeep? |
| 02:39:12 | hardeep | yes, i wrote that patch |
| 02:40:00 | earHurts | does it do anything with regards to diplaying/bnrowsing playlists? |
| 02:41:07 | hardeep | no, that's next on my list if this gets approved |
| 02:41:50 | earHurts | have you seen hoffman's emails regarding his vitual file system? |
| 02:42:28 | hardeep | yes, neat idea |
| 02:43:09 | MiChAeLoL | any idea what the status of the file search patch is? |
| 02:44:03 | earHurts | yes, i think it comes close. question is, sight unseen, how do you guess it interacts with your dynamic playlists? |
| 02:44:17 | hardeep | MiChAeLoL: see the comments on the patch... Zagor likes the patch, just wants some changes to it before committing |
| 02:44:29 | earHurts | the file search is still unapproved as of yesterday |
| 02:44:55 | hardeep | earHurts: the two are unrelated... the virtual file system stuff is for browsing files... browsing playlists is different imo |
| 02:45:12 | hardeep | specifically, i wouldn't want to have to browse through a directory tree to see what song is next |
| 02:45:56 | earHurts | you'd just want to scan the playlist |
| 02:46:20 | hardeep | yeah |
| 02:47:05 | earHurts | still, i'd like to group songs on a playlist, as if they were all a single song as far as shuffling is concerned |
| 02:49:29 | hardeep | you don't need a virtual file system for that... just playlists and a command to not shuffle them |
| 02:49:55 | earHurts | would you use a song database? |
| 02:50:09 | hardeep | for what? |
| 02:50:18 | earHurts | searching? |
| 02:51:28 | hardeep | i don't quite follow... searching for what? |
| 02:51:55 | earHurts | say, all songs by bob dylan with genre rock |
| 02:52:23 | earHurts | or all covers of mr tamborine man |
| 02:53:16 | hardeep | are we still talking about browsing playlists? |
| 02:54:26 | earHurts | call it a database of tracks |
| 02:56:23 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 02:56:50 | MiChAeLoL | hehe should have my player in 3 more days or so |
| 02:57:05 | hardeep | earHurts: I understand what you mean by a song database, I'm just not following how it's related to the playlist discussion... |
| 02:57:06 | MiChAeLoL | got the fm recorder for 222 dollars online, waiting for it to ship |
| 02:57:17 | MiChAeLoL | the playlist is the database |
| 02:57:46 | earHurts | well, it's not quit related |
| 02:57:57 | MiChAeLoL | unless ya have a really small playlist |
| 02:59:20 | MiChAeLoL | how fast do ya think it would search like 3,000 songs? |
| 02:59:45 | earHurts | that is the question.... |
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| 03:00:10 | MiChAeLoL | and ya would have to have it ignore _ - () and such |
| 03:00:34 | earHurts | if we used the nmpeg nmenmnory, probably quicklyt |
| 03:00:39 | MiChAeLoL | yea |
| 03:01:15 | earHurts | of course the list would be a pre generated file |
| 03:02:04 | hardeep | the parsing will probably be very quick... writing the info back to disk will be the bottleneck |
| 03:03:57 | earHurts | yes |
| 03:04:27 | earHurts | well, reading the id3 tags will be the real bottle neck |
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| 03:04:58 | earHurts | do the bulk of that on the pc, with an option to remember new songs as they are played |
| 03:05:12 | jony | hi |
| 03:05:33 | earHurts | hi |
| 03:05:45 | jony | how do i know whitch dev my archos is pluged in?? |
| 03:05:53 | jony | hi earHurts |
| 03:06:03 | earHurts | windows or unix, jonny? |
| 03:06:05 | jony | hope its not thet bad |
| 03:06:09 | jony | *that |
| 03:06:15 | jony | unix |
| 03:06:17 | earHurts | it's bnetter now |
| 03:06:29 | jony | linux rh9 specificaly |
| 03:06:33 | earHurts | can't answer for unix, sorry |
| 03:06:34 | jony | good :D |
| 03:06:53 | jony | ok thanx anyway |
| 03:07:00 | earHurts | np |
| 03:07:11 | hardeep | jony: take a look at the startup messages (dmesg) |
| 03:07:11 | jony | do you know someone that can help me?? |
| 03:07:31 | earHurts | hardeep can. ;) |
| 03:08:11 | hardeep | jony: see http://bjorn.haxx.se/isd200/ for more info on what to look for |
| 03:08:15 | jony | hmmm should should i type dmesg in a console window?? |
| 03:08:31 | hardeep | jony: yeah |
| 03:11:08 | jony | may i paste the usb related output here??? |
| 03:11:52 | hardeep | you'll probably be booted... just look at the web page i mentioned to see what you should be looking for |
| 03:11:56 | earHurts | logbot'll kick you |
| 03:12:01 | jony | dmesg output?? |
| 03:12:18 | jony | ok let me see |
| 03:13:41 | jony | hmmm do you think if i reboot with archos pluged in it will enable this : |
| 03:13:45 | jony | Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... |
| 03:14:21 | jony | cuz the driver is supposed to be a part of latest kernel ver |
| 03:14:39 | hardeep | yes, it's been in for some time |
| 03:15:06 | jony | so i dont need to install anything right??? |
| 03:15:12 | hardeep | nope |
| 03:15:21 | jony | ok |
| 03:15:32 | jony | but should i reboot?? |
| 03:15:45 | hardeep | you shouldn't need to... are you not seeing the message? |
| 03:16:16 | jony | nope |
| 03:16:21 | jony | onlly this |
| 03:17:02 | hardeep | well, try a reboot then... |
| 03:17:05 | jony | usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xc8849000, IRQ 5 |
| 03:17:12 | jony | ok |
| 03:17:20 | jony | thankz |
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| 03:18:49 | MiChAeLoL | is there ay damage done if i leave the blacklight on when plugged in for long periods of time? |
| 03:18:59 | MiChAeLoL | like will the blacklight ware out at all after time? |
| 03:33:32 | MiChAeLoL | hehe http://haxx.se/linus_nielsen.jpg |
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| 04:29:55 | Nixed | hi |
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| 04:32:45 | archtelamon | hey guys |
| 04:32:57 | archtelamon | i get a message when i load my jukebox recorder |
| 04:33:07 | archtelamon | Hard Drive Error Pls Check Hard Drive |
| 04:33:55 | Nixed | doesn't sound pretty. |
| 04:34:34 | Nixed | anything happen to it physically? |
| 04:34:41 | archtelamon | nope |
| 04:34:43 | archtelamon | like |
| 04:34:54 | Nixed | dropping it. |
| 04:34:54 | archtelamon | if i hold the right(forward) button |
| 04:34:58 | archtelamon | it sometimes works |
| 04:35:06 | archtelamon | usually its cuz the power is messed up |
| 04:35:17 | Nixed | you using archos? |
| 04:35:23 | archtelamon | rockbox |
| 04:35:23 | Nixed | or rockbox? |
| 04:36:05 | archtelamon | its not password locked |
| 04:36:16 | Nixed | when did the problem start? |
| 04:36:21 | archtelamon | two days ago |
| 04:36:52 | Nixed | did you run scandisk on it, considering you have a windows machine? |
| 04:36:55 | archtelamon | yes |
| 04:36:58 | archtelamon | no errors |
| 04:37:02 | archtelamon | did a Thorough |
| 04:37:09 | archtelamon | cant spell lol |
| 04:37:16 | archtelamon | could it be power? |
| 04:37:20 | Nixed | that's ok |
| 04:37:26 | Nixed | did you fully charge it? |
| 04:37:57 | archtelamon | well it says charged |
| 04:38:03 | archtelamon | but its charging right now |
| 04:38:05 | archtelamon | its says |
| 04:38:11 | archtelamon | Battery charging.... |
| 04:38:46 | Nixed | ok, then wait until the battery is fully charged before trying it again. Then, run scandisk with a thorough check - check for bad sectors. |
| 04:39:24 | Nixed | the boot sector might be bad, but that's just a hunch |
| 04:39:52 | Nixed | I'm not as up on this as the other guys in here |
| 04:41:02 | archtelamon | ok |
| 04:41:04 | archtelamon | thanks |
| 04:41:09 | archtelamon | i will |
| 04:42:37 | Nixed | are you still under warranty? |
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| 04:55:30 | Stevie-O | gut evenink |
| 04:56:53 | Nixed | hi |
| 04:59:21 | Stevie-O | sup |
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| 05:00:32 | Nixed | not much. just researching battery life |
| 05:02:44 | Stevie-O | fun |
| 05:02:53 | Nixed | yep |
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| 05:13:48 | | Join OliverKlozoff [0] (whatsit2u@user-2iniltd.dialup.mindspring.com) |
| 05:14:13 | OliverKlozoff | what the hell is at 0x06100006? |
| 05:16:36 | Nixed | IS it best to drain the battery in the archos jb recorder completely before charging? |
| 05:17:23 | OliverKlozoff | the regular recorder? yes |
| 05:17:23 | OliverKlozoff | that's what 'deep discharge' mode is for |
| 05:18:04 | Nixed | so deep discharge will send it down to 10% battery life before it charges? |
| 05:18:35 | Nixed | my batteries don't last as long as most people report, so i'm trying new things with it. |
| 05:18:44 | OliverKlozoff | something like that |
| 05:19:00 | * | OliverKlozoff has an FM and has no need to concern himself with such matters |
| 05:19:18 | Nixed | meaning? |
| 05:19:37 | OliverKlozoff | meaning the FM has a lithium ion battery? |
| 05:19:48 | Nixed | that's right. |
| 05:20:02 | OliverKlozoff | lithium ions are completely different from NiCd and NiMh |
| 05:20:14 | OliverKlozoff | NiMH even |
| 05:21:23 | Nixed | i get 5 hours under rockbox 2.0, and close to 6 with archos os. most people say teh recorder should give you 8-10 hours. |
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| 05:41:36 | * | OliverKlozoff fires off an email |
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| 06:10:07 | OliverKlozoff | wb PX |
| 06:10:13 | PsycoXul | thanks |
| 06:18:31 | OliverKlozoff | cool |
| 06:19:02 | OliverKlozoff | x-files is on and it's one of the earlier ones |
| 06:19:08 | OliverKlozoff | the ones that didn't suck |
| 06:22:29 | | Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) |
| 06:23:23 | OliverKlozoff | hey matsl |
| 06:23:39 | matsl | hi |
| 06:24:32 | OliverKlozoff | how goes it? |
| 06:25:34 | matsl | goes what? |
| 06:25:44 | OliverKlozoff | dunno |
| 06:25:47 | OliverKlozoff | it I guess :P |
| 06:26:14 | matsl | oh. that. well it goes fine thank you. |
| 06:26:43 | OliverKlozoff | lol |
| 06:26:47 | OliverKlozoff | :D |
| 06:29:17 | * | OliverKlozoff ponders what's at 0x061000006 and 0x061000007 |
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| 06:50:52 | Stevie-O | whee |
| 06:51:36 | Stevie-O | masl: you don't need to bother with those ROM images now, I finally got some :D |
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| 06:54:57 | | Join Nixed [0] (amada_n321@user-0ccepok.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 06:54:59 | Nixed | help! |
| 06:55:24 | Nixed | hi, I can't boot up my archos. it's giving me a read access error!! |
| 06:55:41 | Nixed | says it can't read from the hard drive |
| 06:56:07 | Stevie-O | maybe ya hafta chkdsk it |
| 06:56:28 | Nixed | I can attach it to the machine, but it won't let me chkdsk it. |
| 06:56:34 | Nixed | it doesn't mount |
| 06:56:45 | Nixed | but windows 2000 does see it |
| 06:57:07 | Nixed | any suggestions? |
| 06:58:09 | Stevie-O | newp |
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| 06:59:40 | Stevie-O | j0 Hadaka |
| 06:59:42 | Stevie-O | err hardeep |
| 06:59:57 | hardeep | hey |
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| 07:01:46 | * | MiChAeLoL is back |
| 07:03:16 | MiChAeLoL | so can the text editor read .nfo's yet? |
| 07:03:41 | hardeep | MiChAeLoL: no, it only reads .txt files |
| 07:03:51 | MiChAeLoL | so i have to rename the .nfo to a .txt |
| 07:03:58 | hardeep | yes |
| 07:04:10 | MiChAeLoL | ya know what would be cool... |
| 07:04:22 | hardeep | i've been meaning to change it so that the text editor is the default app for all unknown extensions |
| 07:04:37 | MiChAeLoL | if the search tool could read id3's |
| 07:04:55 | MiChAeLoL | or rather if you could make a database of id3's in one file on your computer that the search tool could look through |
| 07:05:01 | hardeep | MiChAeLoL: that's something different... see the open feature requests about an id3 database |
| 07:05:13 | MiChAeLoL | ive seen em |
| 07:05:32 | Stevie-O | you know what I've been thinking? |
| 07:05:36 | hardeep | if you like the idea, post a comment as such |
| 07:05:44 | Stevie-O | there should be an on+play command to open a file with the text editor |
| 07:05:52 | MiChAeLoL | post what comment? |
| 07:06:01 | MiChAeLoL | yah |
| 07:06:05 | hardeep | Stevie-O: yeah, that would work too |
| 07:06:16 | MiChAeLoL | lol... so i could read who ripped the album im listening to |
| 07:06:29 | Stevie-O | MiChAeLoL: it was me |
| 07:06:46 | MiChAeLoL | that did what? |
| 07:06:50 | Stevie-O | that ripped the album |
| 07:07:00 | MiChAeLoL | lol |
| 07:07:19 | Stevie-O | it doesn't even matter what album −− since you can't read the .nfo you only have my word to go on |
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| 07:08:32 | MiChAeLoL | lol |
| 07:08:50 | MiChAeLoL | im still waiting to get mine in the mail |
| 07:10:28 | MiChAeLoL | Sched. Delivery: Jun 13, 2003 :D:D:D:D:D:D |
| 07:10:49 | MiChAeLoL | oh wait, crap tommorrow (today) is the 10th |
| 07:11:11 | MiChAeLoL | stupid past 12 o clock at night |
| 07:15:55 | Stevie-O | lol |
| 07:16:22 | Stevie-O | i hate it when that happens |
| 07:17:36 | MiChAeLoL | and i thought i was gunna get it a day earily |
| 07:17:37 | MiChAeLoL | lol |
| 07:17:58 | MiChAeLoL | i know... |
| 07:18:04 | MiChAeLoL | sleeping will make it come faster |
| 07:18:09 | * | MiChAeLoL is away sleep |
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| 07:26:52 | Nixed | back again |
| 07:27:34 | Stevie-O | oh, no, not you again! |
| 07:27:35 | Stevie-O | j/k |
| 07:27:46 | Nixed | so when when i boot up my archos, it says it can't read from hard drive. |
| 07:27:51 | Nixed | I connect the usb cable |
| 07:28:02 | Nixed | Windows 2000 sees it but not the partition. |
| 07:28:15 | Nixed | i think the partiton is f'd, but how do i fix it??? |
| 07:28:33 | Stevie-O | hm |
| 07:28:40 | Stevie-O | partition repair is a nasty business |
| 07:28:46 | Nixed | yes |
| 07:28:53 | Stevie-O | i recommend a linux fdisk |
| 07:29:04 | Nixed | don't have linux :( |
| 07:29:13 | Nixed | just windows 2000 |
| 07:29:23 | Stevie-O | get two floppy disks |
| 07:29:33 | Nixed | got them |
| 07:29:59 | Nixed | now what? |
| 07:30:01 | Stevie-O | download the slackware IDE bootdisk |
| 07:30:12 | Nixed | k |
| 07:30:14 | Stevie-O | and the color.gz rootdisk (don't use a webbrowser for that) |
| 07:30:40 | Stevie-O | Linux on two floppies, no hard disk installation required :D |
| 07:30:55 | Stevie-O | unless cygwin has a port of cfdisk... |
| 07:30:57 | Nixed | ok, but will it see the archos? |
| 07:31:55 | Stevie-O | I have no idea |
| 07:32:04 | Stevie-O | I can make no guarantees about the integrity of your filesystem |
| 07:32:08 | Nixed | sugar. |
| 07:32:37 | Nixed | i dont' care if it kills all my mp3s, i have a back up of it. i just want to use my archos again |
| 07:33:13 | Stevie-O | oh |
| 07:33:17 | Stevie-O | then use fdisk |
| 07:33:24 | Stevie-O | whats the drive letter? |
| 07:33:33 | Nixed | h:, but it doesn't come up |
| 07:33:38 | Stevie-O | oh |
| 07:33:42 | Nixed | how do i use fdisk in windows 2000? |
| 07:34:23 | Stevie-O | I have no idea |
| 07:34:32 | Nixed | :( |
| 07:34:37 | Stevie-O | I would advise that you send an email to the list |
| 07:34:45 | Nixed | ok, I'll try a few things if i drop off, i'll try the list. |
| 07:34:50 | Nixed | thansk stevie |
| 07:49:15 | Nixed | Stevie? |
| 07:49:21 | Nixed | what do i do with color.gz? |
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| 07:56:58 | Stevie-O | hola Zagor |
| 07:57:07 | Zagor | hi. any progress? |
| 07:57:29 | Stevie-O | not much |
| 07:57:33 | Stevie-O | i'm stuck on this ATA thing |
| 07:57:52 | Stevie-O | it's accessing something at 0x061000006 −− but nothing in Rockbox references an address like that |
| 07:58:11 | Stevie-O | the schematics for the recorder imply that it's an invalid access, trying to do DMA or something |
| 07:58:35 | Zagor | i know. i can't say what this exact address is. but it's close enough to the ata registers we use that I still think it's related |
| 07:58:44 | Stevie-O | oh of that I'm sure |
| 07:58:53 | Stevie-O | but just wtf it's trying to do, I don't know |
| 07:59:20 | Stevie-O | I wrote some dummy code to make it act like regular read/write memory (no magic, what you write is what you read back) |
| 07:59:26 | Stevie-O | the older firmware does not progress |
| 07:59:45 | Stevie-O | while the newer firmware (that Linus provided) gets to show the version string |
| 07:59:55 | Zagor | ok |
| 08:00 |
| 08:00:42 | Stevie-O | the older firmware loops forever on 0x061000006 |
| 08:01:16 | Stevie-O | the newer firmware access that address a few times, then displays the version and loops forever on 0x061000007 |
| 08:02:56 | Stevie-O | lets see |
| 08:02:58 | Stevie-O | it writes 0xA0 |
| 08:03:44 | Stevie-O | (to 0x061000006) |
| 08:03:50 | Stevie-O | then reads from 0x062000006 eight times |
| 08:04:00 | Stevie-O | yet ignores the value? |
| 08:04:16 | Stevie-O | then it writes 0x0C to 0x06200006 |
| 08:05:06 | Stevie-O | then it reads from 0x06200006 24 times |
| 08:05:27 | Zagor | 6 is the CONTROL register |
| 08:06:41 | Stevie-O | hmm |
| 08:06:55 | Stevie-O | no |
| 08:06:59 | Nixed | Zagor. How do i format my archos when windows 2000 can't see the partition? |
| 08:07:06 | Stevie-O | the chip selects are wrong? |
| 08:07:32 | Nixed | any suggestions |
| 08:07:44 | Stevie-O | the src puts ata_control at 0x06200206 or 0x06200306 |
| 08:07:48 | Zagor | Nixed: sorry, i'm no good with windows |
| 08:07:58 | Nixed | :( |
| 08:08:11 | Zagor | Stevie-O: yes. i can't remember what that 0x200 pin is for |
| 08:08:22 | Stevie-O | on the Recorder |
| 08:08:32 | Stevie-O | 0x100 maps to the ATA CS0 |
| 08:08:34 | Zagor | Nixed: surely windows can format an unformatted usb disk somehow? |
| 08:08:41 | Stevie-O | and 0x300 maps to the ATA CS1 |
| 08:08:44 | Stevie-O | (according to the schematics) |
| 08:09:15 | Zagor | 0x300? shouldn't that be 0x200? |
| 08:09:33 | Stevie-O | like I said −− according to the schematics |
| 08:09:37 | Stevie-O | which we all know are wrong |
| 08:09:44 | Zagor | yup |
| 08:09:49 | Stevie-O | however, the value being written doesn't make sense for the control register |
| 08:10:06 | Stevie-O | the only bits being set are marked as 'reserved' |
| 08:10:12 | Zagor | ok |
| 08:11:31 | Zagor | right |
| 08:12:14 | Stevie-O | according to the ATA spec |
| 08:13:08 | Stevie-O | hmm |
| 08:13:14 | Stevie-O | how do I know if the device is 'selected' or not? |
| 08:13:49 | Zagor | that's done with a register |
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| 08:14:04 | Stevie-O | so it's 'unselected' at powerup? |
| 08:14:43 | Zagor | yes, but I think that defaults to device 0 |
| 08:14:49 | Zagor | not sure though |
| 08:14:55 | Stevie-O | i don't understand |
| 08:15:03 | Stevie-O | if no device is selected |
| 08:15:31 | Bagder | morning peoples |
| 08:15:40 | Zagor | Bagder: morning |
| 08:15:54 | Stevie-O | according to this |
| 08:15:58 | Zagor | Stevie-O: the select register controls which device you talk to |
| 08:16:09 | Stevie-O | the read/write cycle should be ignored with CS1 and CS0 both negated |
| 08:16:11 | Zagor | set it to 0x10 to talk to device 1. |
| 08:16:32 | Zagor | ok, we're talking about different things :-) |
| 08:17:30 | Stevie-O | 0x06200006 hmm, 0010 0001 |
| 08:17:35 | Stevie-O | 23 22 21 20 |
| 08:17:40 | Stevie-O | where do A21 and A20 go to? |
| 08:18:00 | Zagor | i was just looking at that too |
| 08:18:12 | Stevie-O | it would seem that they don't even matter |
| 08:19:59 | Stevie-O | i wonder where this IDE_A_C goes to |
| 08:20:36 | Stevie-O | hmm |
| 08:20:51 | Stevie-O | something about this 74ac32d |
| 08:21:13 | | Part Nixed |
| 08:24:26 | Stevie-O | ok, i gotta hit the hay |
| 08:24:29 | Stevie-O | its 2:30am here |
| 08:24:35 | Zagor | ok, good night |
| 08:24:35 | Stevie-O | gnight guys |
| 08:24:40 | Stevie-O | if ya find anything out, mail me |
| 08:24:44 | Zagor | yup |
| 08:24:50 | Stevie-O | ty and goodnight! |
| 08:24:54 | Bagder | night stevie |
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| 08:29:37 | Bagder | loooots of mail |
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| 11:22:44 | Zagor | what's a good windows program for burning audio cds? (my brother is asking) |
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| 14:38:29 | Zagor | uh, matsl are you here? |
| 14:38:39 | Zagor | or any other player owner |
| 14:39:09 | matsl | I'm here. |
| 14:39:21 | matsl | what's up? |
| 14:39:25 | Zagor | does idle-poweroff work for you? i.e the power_off() function? |
| 14:40:01 | matsl | never tried it. what version must I have? |
| 14:40:19 | Zagor | 2.0 or later |
| 14:40:32 | Zagor | maybe even 1.4 had it |
| 14:41:00 | matsl | hmm.. come to think of it.I might have tried it. but my memory fail. what test case to run? |
| 14:41:31 | Zagor | just set idle poweroff to 1 minute and then leave it in the file browser and see if it turns off |
| 14:42:08 | matsl | Zagor: memory starts to come back. I think that my unit got stuck during such a test. But hey. I'll test again to be sure. Should I upgrade to latest first? |
| 14:42:26 | Zagor | no, this hasn't changed for ages |
| 14:42:39 | matsl | ok. back in a minute or two ;-) |
| 14:42:56 | Zagor | i'm getting such a lockup as you describe. i wondered if that was just me or a known bug |
| 14:43:37 | matsl | I just set i to 1:00 (that is one minute?) |
| 14:44:24 | Zagor | it says "1m" for me |
| 14:47:26 | matsl | oops. I was in the sleeptimer. |
| 14:47:35 | Zagor | ah |
| 14:47:48 | matsl | no I have 1m set. w8 .... |
| 14:49:57 | matsl | Zagor: unit hung. scroll stop. background lit. |
| 14:50:32 | Zagor | yup, that's what I get too. ok, thanks. |
| 14:50:49 | matsl | Zagor: after pressing some keys power turned off. |
| 14:51:25 | Zagor | ! |
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| 15:58:33 | Stevie[FP] | cya Z |
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| 16:20:40 | | Nick Zagor|out is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 16:20:44 | Stevie[FP] | wb |
| 16:20:46 | Stevie[FP] | what's a 6000? |
| 16:20:54 | Zagor | the original archos player |
| 16:21:02 | Stevie[FP] | ooooh |
| 16:21:05 | Stevie[FP] | this is interesting |
| 16:21:09 | Stevie[FP] | this is verrry interesting :) |
| 16:21:13 | Zagor | :) |
| 16:21:28 | Stevie[FP] | btw −− pre/post 4.5, or doesn't matter? |
| 16:21:52 | Zagor | the 6000 existed with both pre and port 4.5 roms |
| 16:21:55 | Stevie[FP] | ok |
| 16:22:09 | Stevie[FP] | if one examines ata.c, there are addresses like this: |
| 16:22:16 | Stevie[FP] | ATA_DATA @ 0x06104100 |
| 16:22:21 | Stevie[FP] | ATA_ERROR @ 0x06100101 |
| 16:22:38 | Stevie[FP] | ATA_CONTROL1 @ 0x06200206 |
| 16:22:43 | Stevie[FP] | ATA_CONTROL2 @ 0x06200306 |
| 16:22:54 | Zagor | yes |
| 16:23:02 | Stevie[FP] | hmmmm |
| 16:23:09 | Stevie[FP] | if ATA_CONTROL2 is for old_recorder=true |
| 16:23:18 | Stevie[FP] | then the schematics on the website are for the old recorder |
| 16:23:30 | * | Stevie[FP] flexes his l33t schematic reading skillz |
| 16:23:40 | Stevie[FP] | okay, here's the deal |
| 16:23:43 | Stevie[FP] | on the Player |
| 16:24:02 | Stevie[FP] | A20 and A21 are for the ATA -DCS0 and and -DCS1 respectively |
| 16:24:59 | Stevie[FP] | so 0x061xxxxx makes -DCS0 active |
| 16:25:09 | Stevie[FP] | and 0x062xxxxx makes -DCS1 active |
| 16:25:25 | Zagor | ah, right. i had forgotten that. |
| 16:25:31 | Stevie[FP] | heh. |
| 16:25:34 | Stevie[FP] | on the old recorder |
| 16:26:30 | Stevie[FP] | -DCS0 and -DCS1 are hooked up to 0x06xxx1xx and 0x06xxx3xx |
| 16:26:47 | Stevie[FP] | so I presume the new recorder is more like the Player and puts -DCS1 on 0x06xxx2xx |
| 16:26:54 | Stevie[FP] | a few things I don't understand |
| 16:28:54 | | Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA9E2B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:30:14 | Stevie[FP] | it looks like the Player only outputs those pins when *reading* from the ATA address |
| 16:30:41 | Stevie[FP] | ohhh |
| 16:30:43 | Stevie[FP] | HAHA |
| 16:30:51 | Stevie[FP] | if those 6000 schematics are right |
| 16:30:54 | Stevie[FP] | god they're morons! |
| 16:31:43 | Stevie[FP] | but how... |
| 16:33:27 | * | Stevie[FP] rubs his head |
| 16:33:30 | Stevie[FP] | yet this still makes no sense |
| 16:33:44 | Stevie[FP] | oh wait |
| 16:33:45 | Stevie[FP] | it does |
| 16:34:50 | Stevie[FP] | aha. |
| 16:39:06 | Stevie[FP] | omg |
| 16:39:11 | Stevie[FP] | it does the SAME THING as the earlier code |
| 16:41:58 | Stevie[FP] | but how |
| 16:42:40 | Stevie[FP] | wtf |
| 16:43:02 | Stevie[FP] | hmmm |
| 16:43:05 | Stevie[FP] | unless it's wrong |
| 16:53:20 | | Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) |
| 16:55:04 | Stevie[FP] | hey amtsl |
| 16:55:08 | Stevie[FP] | matsl even |
| 16:56:53 | matsl | Stevie[FP]: hi |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:02 | Stevie[FP] | sup |
| 17:14:23 | | Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) |
| 17:43:03 | Stevie[FP] | wtf |
| 17:45:18 | | Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) |
| 17:53:35 | * | MiChAeLoL wonders what happened to nixed's rockbox |
| 17:53:50 | | Quit mecraw (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 17:54:00 | Bagder | nixed? |
| 17:54:43 | | Nick mecraw_ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) |
| 17:55:07 | MiChAeLoL | "<Nixed> so when when i boot up my archos, it says it can't read from hard drive. |
| 17:55:07 | MiChAeLoL | <Nixed> I connect the usb cable |
| 17:55:07 | MiChAeLoL | <Nixed> Windows 2000 sees it but not the partition. |
| 17:55:07 | DBUG | Sent KICK MiChAeLoL to server |
| 17:55:07 | MiChAeLoL | <Nixed> i think the partiton is f'd, but how do i fix it??? |
| 17:55:07 | Kick | (#rockbox MiChAeLoL :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
| 17:55:15 | | Join MiChAeLoL [0] (michael@12-249-226-112.client.attbi.com) |
| 17:55:22 | MiChAeLoL | lol how is 3 lines flooding |
| 17:55:28 | Bagder | 4 ;-) |
| 17:55:56 | Bagder | well, checking the partition table would tell I guess |
| 17:57:00 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:58:55 | Stevie[FP] | errrrrrrr |
| 17:58:57 | Stevie[FP] | errrrrrrr |
| 17:58:59 | Stevie[FP] | errrrrrrrr |
| 17:59:10 | Stevie[FP] | somethings not good |
| 17:59:14 | Stevie[FP] | something is very not good |
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| 18:00:44 | MiChAeLoL | what is a 000000000000066.6.6xx000000101010101 |
| 18:00:59 | MiChAeLoL | and what does it have to do with ata? |
| 18:01:03 | Stevie[FP] | where the hell is sleep defined? |
| 18:01:11 | Stevie[FP] | MiChAeLoL: shut up. |
| 18:01:40 | Stevie[FP] | ok, I found a problem |
| 18:01:42 | Stevie[FP] | Zagor: ! |
| 18:02:27 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 18:02:34 | Stevie[FP] | hmm |
| 18:02:46 | Stevie[FP] | maybe nawt, but still |
| 18:03:37 | Bagder | Stevie[FP]: sleep is in kernel.c |
| 18:04:28 | Stevie[FP] | hmmm |
| 18:04:30 | Stevie[FP] | this is very interesting |
| 18:04:52 | Stevie[FP] | I wonder if it has anything at all to do with the 'red led dead' |
| 18:07:00 | Stevie[FP] | ohh man |
| 18:07:02 | Stevie[FP] | mmmh |
| 18:07:46 | Stevie[FP] | if this code suffers from the same problem... |
| 18:09:26 | * | Stevie[FP] shakes Bagder to get his attention |
| 18:09:49 | Bagder | you're not exactly crystal clear ;-) |
| 18:09:51 | Stevie[FP] | I do believe I just found a rather painful error/race condition in the ATA code that might relate to 'red LED dead' |
| 18:10:29 | Stevie[FP] | there's a brief but quite existent window in which we could violate ATA spec for the software reset |
| 18:10:37 | Bagder | stick that in Zagor's face, he's the boss of that code |
| 18:11:05 | Stevie[FP] | mmkay |
| 18:11:13 | * | Stevie[FP] sees ze light |
| 18:11:25 | MiChAeLoL | haha |
| 18:11:50 | * | MiChAeLoL would bow down to Stevie[FP] if he got rid of the red led dead thinggy |
| 18:12:15 | Stevie[FP] | lessee |
| 18:15:02 | Stevie[FP] | 12mhz nets us 83ns per tick |
| 18:15:21 | Stevie[FP] | 5us would take 60.240964 ticks |
| 18:15:24 | | Quit hardeep ("BitchX: it adds that extra uNF to your sex life!") |
| 18:15:36 | Stevie[FP] | 2ms would take 24096.385542 ticks |
| 18:26:06 | | Join Guest1 [0] (~jirc@nat-24-25-135-217.ne.rr.com) |
| 18:27:35 | Guest1 | HI! I'm having some problems with Rockbox and thought maybe some of you kind folk could help me |
| 18:29:31 | Guest1 | I have the FM recorder 20gb (soon to be ugraded) version, and downloaded the latest version of rockbox as of yesterday afternoon. I downloaded to my pc and unzipped directly to the main directory. now i keep getting "dir buffer full! " messages and half the songs i've put in are in a file called "recycled" that i didn't create and all the tag info is gone |
| 18:29:45 | Stevie[FP] | ... |
| 18:29:57 | Stevie[FP] | (1) 'recycled' is the directory Windows puts your deleted files in |
| 18:30:04 | Guest1 | oh |
| 18:30:10 | Guest1 | okay well that makes sence |
| 18:30:22 | Guest1 | still though i know i put more songs into the player then there are |
| 18:30:26 | Guest1 | and what is dir buffer? |
| 18:30:41 | Stevie[FP] | that would be the memory buffer where it holds the names of the songs on the player |
| 18:30:49 | Guest1 | why is it full? |
| 18:30:51 | Stevie[FP] | (2) 'dir buffer full' => you have more than 400 files in the given directory |
| 18:31:02 | Stevie[FP] | because it's not big enough to hold the dir you have? |
| 18:31:08 | Guest1 | right, i mean of course i do unless i missed something |
| 18:31:10 | Stevie[FP] | you can change the maximum on the latest version |
| 18:31:17 | Guest1 | the player can hold 5000 songs i thought |
| 18:31:22 | MiChAeLoL | thought ya got around the 400 file dir limit rule |
| 18:31:33 | Stevie[FP] | Guest1: it can hold as many songs as you can fit on the drive |
| 18:31:39 | Stevie[FP] | but it can only LIST 400 by default |
| 18:31:56 | Guest1 | thats odd |
| 18:32:00 | Stevie[FP] | no it's not |
| 18:32:08 | Stevie[FP] | the thing doesn't have a lot of memory |
| 18:32:15 | Guest1 | i think im missing something |
| 18:32:17 | Stevie[FP] | if you organize your songs into directories |
| 18:32:24 | Guest1 | oh okay |
| 18:32:27 | Stevie[FP] | ... |
| 18:32:31 | mecraw | Guest1: do you have all your files in one directory? |
| 18:32:53 | Guest1 | well i thought i could with rockbox thats why i wanted it, i thought it broke the 999 song barrier archos had |
| 18:33:17 | MiChAeLoL | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0334.shtml |
| 18:33:31 | MiChAeLoL | it did |
| 18:33:57 | mecraw | organize into subdirectories and use playlists |
| 18:34:22 | Guest1 | with playlists the songs will always be played in that order right? |
| 18:34:35 | mecraw | not if shuffle is on |
| 18:34:50 | Guest1 | oh really! good nice |
| 18:34:57 | Guest1 | so how many songs can each file hold |
| 18:35:19 | Guest1 | i can break it up into "a-e" "f-j" etc |
| 18:35:28 | Guest1 | then create playlists |
| 18:35:49 | Guest1 | is it still 999 songs per file? |
| 18:36:00 | Stevie[FP] | no |
| 18:36:02 | mecraw | up to 10000 by default, i believe |
| 18:36:05 | Stevie[FP] | playlists are like 10000 |
| 18:36:14 | Stevie[FP] | ok i need food |
| 18:36:15 | * | Stevie[FP] is away [f00d] [KS-MsgLog Off] |
| 18:36:16 | Guest1 | well see then thats what i mean i only have 1016 in my first file |
| 18:36:17 | Stevie[FP] | bbl |
| 18:36:30 | Guest1 | and it still says buffer is full |
| 18:37:13 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: i'm be very interested if you've found what looks like a race condition in the ata code |
| 18:37:28 | mecraw | Guest1: which version of rockbox did you download? |
| 18:37:36 | Guest1 | FM Recorder |
| 18:38:03 | mecraw | version number? |
| 18:38:26 | Guest1 | 2.0 |
| 18:38:53 | mecraw | how many files do you have in your root directory? |
| 18:39:09 | Guest1 | see basically right now i have only files in my main directory, and one is called music with 1016 songs in it and it says dir buffer is full |
| 18:39:12 | Guest1 | none |
| 18:39:15 | Guest1 | well files yes |
| 18:39:16 | Guest1 | no songs |
| 18:39:51 | Guest1 | .rockbox, music, recycled, system volume information, ajbrec.ajz and rstation.bin |
| 18:40:22 | mecraw | music is a directory with 1016 files in it? |
| 18:40:30 | Guest1 | correct |
| 18:40:46 | mecraw | read this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0334.shtml |
| 18:40:57 | Guest1 | okay |
| 18:41:39 | Guest1 | see i thought that meant before you could only have 400 files in the core directory |
| 18:41:49 | Guest1 | each file holding music or information |
| 18:42:06 | Guest1 | which would mean i only have 6 no where near 400 |
| 18:42:27 | mecraw | by default only 400 in any directory |
| 18:42:31 | Guest1 | right |
| 18:42:42 | Guest1 | wait does that mean only 400 songs per file? |
| 18:44:23 | mecraw | per playlist? no |
| 18:44:44 | Guest1 | well no i mean you have to keep your actual songs somewhere, regardless of playlists |
| 18:45:02 | Guest1 | maybe im too computer illieterate for rockbox |
| 18:45:12 | mecraw | organize them into subdirectories |
| 18:45:53 | mecraw | i have a directory for every artist, and then directories under that for the artists' albums which contain the actual mp3's |
| 18:45:55 | Guest1 | with the archos os i had up to 999 songs in each file and each file was a different genre of music. what stunk though was sometimes i had more then 999 songs per that genre thats why i wanted rockbox (plus other things it can do) |
| 18:46:22 | Guest1 | oh |
| 18:46:34 | mecraw | do you mean "directory" or "folder" when you say "file"? |
| 18:46:44 | Guest1 | folder |
| 18:46:45 | Guest1 | sorry |
| 18:46:54 | mecraw | no problem |
| 18:47:08 | Guest1 | so lets say for example i had "metal, rap, rock, classical, dance" |
| 18:47:49 | Guest1 | as main folders each holding 999 songs, i'd click into one and do a shuffle and just listen to random music. then i'd also have a main folder called playlists for when i wanted to listen to only one artist in random mode |
| 18:47:59 | Guest1 | this is exactly waht i want to do. |
| 18:48:08 | Guest1 | but with more then 999 songs |
| 18:48:41 | Guest1 | i mean im going to get the 80gb drive and i'll NEED more then 999 songs per folder |
| 18:48:58 | Guest1 | but if i cant i cant |
| 18:49:45 | Guest1 | if i understand, you're saying i should break up the songs , for example, by artist into seperate folders then create playlists which would be my equivilant to a large folder, correct? that i can do and makes sence, if im understanding |
| 18:49:52 | mecraw | well, you can either get the bleeding edge version of rockbox and configure it to allow 10000 files per folder, or organize your music better and then create playlists for the genres too |
| 18:50:09 | mecraw | that's right |
| 18:50:40 | Guest1 | is there a quicker way to create playlists then clicking each song on the jukebox to enter it? |
| 18:51:01 | Guest1 | thanks so much for your help guys. i know im a bug |
| 18:51:16 | mecraw | i connected mine to a pc and used winamp to make my playlists |
| 18:51:37 | mecraw | rockbox currently has some rudimentary playlist creation functionality |
| 18:51:48 | Guest1 | im also curious why the player starts as archos before starting rockbox, and why the player uses file names instead of ID3 tags |
| 18:51:59 | Guest1 | yeah ill use winamp |
| 18:52:28 | Guest1 | i spent the better part of yesterday afternoon renaming my files so they were "artist - song" because the player sorted by filename not ID3 tag info |
| 18:52:39 | Guest1 | i got through 1000 then was tired and went to bed |
| 18:52:57 | mecraw | there are tools that will do that for you |
| 18:53:00 | Guest1 | everything else i love about rockbox, its so much quicker |
| 18:53:27 | Guest1 | yeah i tried music match but it only did it in a way that music match would read |
| 18:53:48 | mecraw | it would be incredibly slow if it tried to read the id3 tags for displaying them in the directory browser |
| 18:53:58 | Guest1 | right, makes sence |
| 18:54:14 | Guest1 | know any freeware that could help me in my renaming venture? |
| 18:54:56 | mecraw | not off the top of my head... search the mailing list or google, there are a lot out there |
| 18:55:09 | Guest1 | and i guess my last pain in the butt question is how do i get rid of the songs in "recycled" to free up my hard drive space |
| 18:55:11 | Guest1 | thanks |
| 18:55:41 | Guest1 | oh i lied! has anyone defragged their player without problems? seems you'd have to sooner or later |
| 18:55:50 | mecraw | hook it up to windows and empty your recycle bin |
| 18:56:19 | mecraw | mp3 files are big enough that fragmentation isn't a big problem |
| 18:56:49 | mecraw | there is a way to tell windows not to put the recycler folder on the drive, search the mailing list for the how to |
| 18:56:54 | mecraw | or the FAQ |
| 18:59:36 | Guest1 | wow i bet this recycled bin was a huge part of my problem. i only have 4.8gb left! |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:41 | mecraw | Guest1: look here for a lot of useful info: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/ |
| 19:00:55 | Guest1 | i didnt even know this player kept a garbage, you've all helped a lot thanks. i think i can make this player work great now |
| 19:01:10 | mecraw | good luck |
| 19:02:26 | Guest1 | wierd it wont let me close out the player to unplug it |
| 19:03:57 | Guest1 | just when i think i understand it, this happens,whats the worst that'll happen if i unplug before ejecting? |
| 19:05:26 | Guest1 | ah there we go nevermind |
| 19:05:54 | Guest1 | maybe next time i come back i'll be more savvy. I'm gonna read the rockbox and archos manuals front to back, thanks again for all your help |
| 19:05:59 | | Quit Guest1 ("Leaving") |
| 19:20:23 | | Join Guest1 [0] (~jirc@nat-24-25-135-217.ne.rr.com) |
| 19:20:53 | Guest1 | im back lol... is there anyway to hide the non music files? i tried doing it through windows and it worked, on windows, but they are still visible in the main directory |
| 19:21:20 | | Quit Guest1 (Client Quit) |
| 19:22:15 | mecraw | Guest1: read the manual |
| 19:24:18 | | Join Guest1 [0] (~jirc@nat-24-25-135-217.ne.rr.com) |
| 19:24:25 | Guest1 | closed the window on accident. Hmmm... if i rename the files will they still be accesible by the program? |
| 19:24:59 | mecraw | by what program? |
| 19:25:20 | Guest1 | well these non music files are annoying in my directory |
| 19:25:35 | Guest1 | cant hid them through windows already tried that |
| 19:25:49 | mecraw | read the manual |
| 19:26:24 | Guest1 | yeah doing that right now |
| 19:26:40 | | Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 19:26:41 | Guest1 | i know im being annoying sorry |
| 19:27:19 | mecraw | section 6.3.2 |
| 19:34:13 | Guest1 | so how long have you had your archos? |
| 19:34:49 | mecraw | since February 2002, haven't used the Archos firmware since August |
| 19:35:55 | Guest1 | I just got this one two weeks ago |
| 19:36:03 | Guest1 | and just purchased another on ebay for my gf |
| 19:37:27 | Guest1 | i thougth about getting the video one but didn't want to take the hit in battery life since I'm mainly planning on using it for mp3. the new rca video player looks pretty good for four hundred dollars over the 600 for the archos equivilant, i might get that for playing movies, or maybe just a portable dvd player who knows |
| 19:40:02 | Guest1 | rockbox looks like the kind of program I'd want running my home entertainment center |
| 19:45:10 | * | Stevie[FP] is back from [f00d] [gone 1hr 8mins 55secs] [KS] |
| 19:45:12 | Stevie[FP] | myth me? |
| 19:45:26 | Zagor | myst me? ;) |
| 19:45:33 | Stevie[FP] | :P |
| 19:45:41 | Stevie[FP] | i found a potential problem with the soft reset code |
| 19:46:17 | Stevie[FP] | the soft reset code, for whatever reason, does its delaying with sleep() |
| 19:46:49 | Stevie[FP] | so for the 5us delay, it does sleep(HZ/20000) |
| 19:47:07 | Zagor | yes |
| 19:47:09 | Stevie[FP] | with HZ being 100, that winds up being sleep(0) |
| 19:47:16 | Zagor | yup |
| 19:47:26 | Stevie[FP] | the code adds 1 tick so it always sleeps at least 1 |
| 19:47:40 | Stevie[FP] | so we effectively sleep until the next tick |
| 19:48:05 | Stevie[FP] | however, unless I missed something, that doesn't really assure that that will be 10ms later |
| 19:48:30 | Stevie[FP] | if we're 9.996ms into the current tick and issue a soft reset |
| 19:48:44 | Stevie[FP] | sleep(0) will only sleep for 4us |
| 19:50:22 | Stevie[FP] | now, we're talking about a 1-in-2000 chance here |
| 19:50:33 | Stevie[FP] | which, while not being very high, is actually not all that low |
| 19:51:12 | Zagor | let me take a look |
| 19:51:16 | Stevie[FP] | I once experienced a race condition on an edge-triggered interrupt |
| 19:51:33 | Stevie[FP] | the potential width for the race was about 360ns |
| 19:53:46 | Zagor | so we should change sleep() to be !TIME_AFTER instead |
| 19:53:55 | Stevie[FP] | i don't understand? |
| 19:54:13 | Zagor | effectively add another tick to each sleep |
| 19:54:38 | Zagor | not very nice either. then sleep(1) can be 2.9 ticks long |
| 19:54:46 | Stevie[FP] | indeed |
| 19:54:57 | Stevie[FP] | I figured it would be easiest to just have two routines for ATA sleeps |
| 19:55:14 | Zagor | true |
| 19:55:14 | Stevie[FP] | or at least one, for the 5us one |
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| 19:55:47 | * | Stevie[FP] looks up how to do labels in gcc asm |
| 19:56:07 | Zagor | well the HZ/400 suffers from the same problem |
| 19:57:04 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:57:12 | Stevie[FP] | indeed |
| 19:57:19 | Stevie[FP] | but I don't think that's as serious a problem |
| 19:57:30 | Stevie[FP] | I could be wrong |
| 19:59:22 | Stevie[FP] | __asm__ __volatile___ ("mov #12, r0\n\t" "L_%=: add #-1, r0\n\tcmp/eq #0, r0\n\tbt L_%=\n\t" : : : "r0"); |
| 19:59:54 | Stevie[FP] | that looks good for a 5us delay on a 12mhz cpu (it will delay slightly longer for the 11.0592mhz Recorders, but 'too long' is rarely an issue with hardware) |
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| 20:01:47 | Zagor | can you write that with #12 as a parameter? |
| 20:05:31 | Stevie[FP] | sure... |
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| 20:15:34 | Stevie[FP] | http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/rockbox/rockusleep.txt |
| 20:15:44 | Stevie[FP] | i threw a macro together all the way at the end |
| 20:18:36 | Zagor | thanks |
| 20:19:09 | Stevie[FP] | however |
| 20:19:10 | _johan_ | how well tested is the new FM Recorder Firmware? Any risk for collapse or is it as stable as the one for the recorder |
| 20:19:19 | Stevie[FP] | we're not doing a reset yet when the LED dead starts, are we? |
| 20:20:04 | Zagor | we don't know when the dead starts |
| 20:20:16 | Stevie[FP] | other than it sits on BSY forever? |
| 20:20:31 | Zagor | _johan_: it's as stable as the other versions |
| 20:20:48 | _johan_ | Zagor thanks |
| 20:21:03 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: do we even know that much for sure? |
| 20:23:30 | Stevie[FP] | No idea. |
| 20:23:49 | Stevie[FP] | let see |
| 20:23:58 | Stevie[FP] | dev/head: select device 0 |
| 20:24:00 | Stevie[FP] | woo. |
| 20:24:04 | Zagor | can anyone here force the redleddead easily? |
| 20:24:32 | Stevie[FP] | no =/ |
| 20:24:44 | Stevie[FP] | ok, now we read the alternate status register... |
| 20:25:41 | Stevie[FP] | several times for no apparent reason |
| 20:25:53 | Stevie[FP] | then we write to that register, which is the device control register |
| 20:26:12 | Zagor | 6 |
| 20:26:27 | Stevie[FP] | we write 0x0C |
| 20:26:29 | Stevie[FP] | 6? |
| 20:26:42 | Zagor | ah, i though you were asking. :-) |
| 20:26:56 | Stevie[FP] | hehe |
| 20:26:56 | Stevie[FP] | (and by 'we' I mean the crappy archos boot firmware) |
| 20:27:29 | Stevie[FP] | hmm |
| 20:27:39 | Stevie[FP] | one of the bits we write is reserved |
| 20:27:43 | Stevie[FP] | interesting |
| 20:27:58 | Stevie[FP] | but it sets SRST and clears nIEN |
| 20:28:12 | Stevie[FP] | that puts it into reset state and enables the INTRQ |
| 20:28:39 | Zagor | yeah, we do that too in our init |
| 20:29:24 | Stevie[FP] | blah, the device software reset state diagram is icky |
| 20:29:43 | Zagor | yup :) |
| 20:30:04 | * | Stevie[FP] doesn't know what this crap means |
| 20:32:10 | Stevie[FP] | p247, ok |
| 20:32:32 | Stevie[FP] | the device shall set BSY to 1 within 400ns |
| 20:42:38 | Stevie[FP] | Jukebox 6GB |
| 20:42:40 | Stevie[FP] | Version: 4.53 |
| 20:42:44 | Zagor | whee! |
| 20:44:36 | Stevie[FP] | hmmm |
| 20:44:38 | Stevie[FP] | waitaminit |
| 20:44:53 | Stevie[FP] | there's never a device 1, is there? |
| 20:47:41 | Zagor | yes. sometimes the only disk is jumpered as device 1 |
| 20:47:58 | Stevie[FP] | okay |
| 20:48:07 | Stevie[FP] | Archos really needs to clean up their act. |
| 20:48:16 | Zagor | :) |
| 20:48:34 | Stevie[FP] | ata.c, line ~608 |
| 20:48:48 | Stevie[FP] | /* This little sucker can take up to 30 seconds */ |
| 20:49:00 | Stevie[FP] | for perform_soft_reset() |
| 20:49:27 | Stevie[FP] | the only thing I see that says anything even close to that is when a reset occurs and there are two devices on the line |
| 20:49:33 | Zagor | yup, according to the spec. but i think that's for powered-down cdroms or something |
| 20:50:06 | Zagor | i'll see if I can find it |
| 20:53:42 | Zagor | unfortunately, "Device 1 is present" does not mean device 0 is too... |
| 20:54:10 | Zagor | "When the sample indicates that PDIAG- is not asserted and less than 31 s have elapsed since SRST was cleared to zero, then the device shall make a transition to the D0SR2: Sample_PDIAG- state." |
| 20:54:11 | Stevie[FP] | yeah but that diagram is for Device 0's reset process |
| 20:54:22 | Stevie[FP] | which page is that? |
| 20:54:25 | Zagor | ah, right. silly me :-) |
| 20:54:37 | Zagor | that was p234 |
| 20:54:43 | Stevie[FP] | ah, ok, same page |
| 20:54:48 | Stevie[FP] | the diagram for device 1's reset looks like the top half of device 0's reset |
| 20:57:41 | Stevie[FP] | this code is so bizarre |
| 20:58:04 | Stevie[FP] | it reads the ATA address like 8 times, throwing away the result all but the last time |
| 20:58:32 | Zagor | ah, now I know where i got it: p33 "In Standby mode the device is capable of responding to commands but the device may take longer to complete commands than in the Idle mode. The time to respond could be as long as 30 s." |
| 20:58:49 | Stevie[FP] | do we ever put the hd in 'standby' mode? |
| 20:58:50 | Zagor | it could still be wrong though :-) |
| 20:59:03 | Zagor | we used to, before we changed to sleep |
| 20:59:26 | Zagor | the time is the same for sleep, btw |
| 20:59:45 | Zagor | "In Sleep mode the device requires a hardware or software reset or a DEVICE RESET command to be activated. The time to respond could be as long as 30 s." |
| 20:59:57 | Stevie[FP] | mmkay |
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| 21:02:47 | | Join jkerman [0] (Something@156.46.57.134) |
| 21:02:56 | jkerman | hi. |
| 21:03:11 | jkerman | just picked up an archos FM recorder yesterday, and i LOVE it. |
| 21:03:19 | Zagor | if anyone with redleddead problems log on or read the logs, please try this rec firmware and see if it improves the situation: http://rockbox.haxx.se/test/usleep.ajz |
| 21:03:26 | jkerman | i also am very impressed with the rockbox software. |
| 21:03:31 | Zagor | jkerman: thanks |
| 21:03:52 | jkerman | i was wondering if there were any stability issues? im going away for the weekend, and i plan on doing some heav recording. |
| 21:04:03 | jkerman | (at the bonnaroo music fest) |
| 21:04:21 | jkerman | I'll have no way to switch back to the stock firmware if i run into trouble. |
| 21:04:24 | Stevie[FP] | Zagor: that changes the delay? |
| 21:04:26 | jkerman | think its safe? |
| 21:04:30 | Zagor | there has been some recording issues. it's hard to say if any remain. |
| 21:04:34 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: yes |
| 21:04:41 | Stevie[FP] | ah, ok |
| 21:04:52 | * | Stevie[FP] doesn't experience it enough to be able to reproduce it reliably |
| 21:04:56 | Zagor | jkerman: keep a copy of the stock firmware in a file, then you can switch. look in the rockbox manual for "rolo" |
| 21:06:10 | jkerman | damn! you guys thought of everything! ;) |
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| 21:06:20 | Zagor | :-) |
| 21:06:25 | | Nick matsl is now known as matsl|busy (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:06:58 | jkerman | one more question/feature request for you guys while im here... |
| 21:07:22 | jkerman | i was wondering if it would be possible to record radio stations on some sort of timer. something like a "tivo" |
| 21:07:32 | jkerman | where it could wake up and record a show for me. |
| 21:07:57 | Zagor | yes it |
| 21:08:04 | Zagor | is possible, but not yet implemented |
| 21:08:53 | jkerman | cool! it seems like a simple thing to do, but there people selling tape recorders and manual timers out there for like $300. |
| 21:09:06 | Zagor | hehe |
| 21:09:25 | _johan_ | guys, I love that you dont have this annoying little stop inbetween songs on your firmware, not finally I can listen to my DJsets without a blip |
| 21:09:57 | Zagor | _johan_: nice. it does require gapless mp3 files of course |
| 21:10:24 | _johan_ | but that is possible while recording on you firmware as well right? |
| 21:10:47 | _johan_ | as on the archos firmware |
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| 21:11:11 | Zagor | K-lined?? |
| 21:19:01 | Stevie[FP] | 0x48 |
| 21:19:13 | Stevie[FP] | H |
| 21:19:16 | Stevie[FP] | meh |
| 21:22:19 | Stevie[FP] | i need a nice little app that I can take a screenshot and it will save a png |
| 21:22:23 | Stevie[FP] | IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? |
| 21:23:18 | Zagor | gimp |
| 21:23:29 | Stevie[FP] | gimp is too damn hard to use |
| 21:23:32 | Stevie[FP] | and I can't paste |
| 21:23:52 | | Nick matsl|busy is now known as matsl (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:24:17 | Stevie[FP] | ok |
| 21:24:25 | Stevie[FP] | anyone who wants to see how poorly I'm progressing |
| 21:24:38 | Stevie[FP] | http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/jbremu/newplayer_1.jpg |
| 21:24:40 | Stevie[FP] | http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/jbremu/newplayer_2.jpg |
| 21:27:03 | Zagor | looks good |
| 21:27:42 | Stevie[FP] | with the possible exception of the HD Error |
| 21:28:22 | Zagor | :-) |
| 21:28:58 | * | Stevie[FP] notes that their lcd output code is not very bright |
| 21:33:43 | Zagor | surprised? ;) |
| 21:33:48 | Stevie[FP] | no |
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| 21:33:58 | Stevie[FP] | the code's not very optimized |
| 21:34:10 | Stevie[FP] | for example, I see code like this: |
| 21:34:13 | Stevie[FP] | and #0x80, r0 |
| 21:34:14 | Stevie[FP] | tst r0, r0 |
| 21:34:23 | Stevie[FP] | to see if bit 7 is set in r0 |
| 21:36:43 | Stevie[FP] | however, the following would perform equally well: tst #0x80, r0 |
| 21:41:31 | * | Stevie[FP] wonders wtf is meaningful in the sector/head/cylinder registers |
| 21:48:14 | Stevie[FP] | Zagor: any ideas? |
| 21:51:25 | * | Stevie[FP] fires a nerf gun at Zagor |
| 21:53:24 | Stevie[FP] | wow this thing's badly written |
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| 22:01:20 | Stevie[FP] | do we know if our hard drives support the PACKET command feature set? |
| 22:06:48 | MiChAeLoL | http://download.com.com/3000-2141-10178233.html?tag=lst-3-9 <- nice tagging program :D |
| 22:07:42 | | Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB99A2E.ipt.aol.com) |
| 22:07:56 | tracktheripper | hey hi everyoen |
| 22:09:32 | MiChAeLoL | hello |
| 22:09:41 | tracktheripper | hello mic |
| 22:12:17 | tracktheripper | hello Bjorn and co |
| 22:12:29 | * | tracktheripper is pleased his webcam is working |
| 22:30:16 | * | thu is looking for a nice way to encode and stream his webcam |
| 22:43:49 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: only ATAPI devices (cdroms, tape drives etc) support the packet interface |
| 22:44:12 | Stevie[FP] | I take it that excludes our HDs? |
| 22:44:19 | Zagor | yes |
| 22:44:23 | Stevie[FP] | mkay |
| 22:44:57 | Stevie[FP] | hmm |
| 22:45:14 | Stevie[FP] | don't we have the ATA interrupt connected? |
| 22:45:46 | Zagor | yes, but we don't use it |
| 22:45:51 | Stevie[FP] | oh |
| 22:45:52 | Stevie[FP] | which IRQ? |
| 22:46:06 | Zagor | umm, don't remember |
| 22:46:31 | Stevie[FP] | pacr1 hmm |
| 22:46:43 | Stevie[FP] | irq0 is at trap vector 64... |
| 22:47:16 | Stevie[FP] | PACR1 == 0x0102 |
| 22:47:32 | Stevie[FP] | so PA12 is set as IRQ0 |
| 22:48:30 | Stevie[FP] | and it would appear that INTRQ is connected to PA12 via massive abuse of a stupid multiplexor instead of a simple NOT gate |
| 22:55:37 | | Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) |
| 22:56:46 | BoD[] | Hello, world! |
| 22:56:56 | Stevie[FP] | that's been done |
| 22:57:07 | BoD[] | mh? |
| 22:57:14 | Stevie[FP] | printf("Hello, world!\n"); |
| 22:57:23 | Stevie[FP] | http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/jbremu/newplayer_1.jpg <- but have you seen *this* done yet? |
| 22:58:35 | BoD[] | hmm i would say not :) but what is it exactly |
| 22:58:40 | Stevie[FP] | well whats it say? |
| 22:59:17 | BoD[] | ss1815 lcd emulator... |
| 22:59:25 | Stevie[FP] | no on the picture |
| 22:59:50 | BoD[] | version 4.53 ? |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:00 | Stevie[FP] | ... what kind of Jukebox do you have? |
| 23:00:09 | BoD[] | recorder 20 |
| 23:00:22 | Stevie[FP] | then try this one: http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/jbremu/2ndss.jpg |
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| 23:01:31 | BoD[] | is it an archos emulator ? :) |
| 23:01:40 | Stevie[FP] | not quite |
| 23:01:45 | Stevie[FP] | but it's getting there |
| 23:02:18 | BoD[] | what is the use ? |
| 23:05:14 | BoD[] | if any |
| 23:05:56 | | Part montykid |
| 23:06:24 | Stevie[FP] | aww damnit |
| 23:06:30 | Stevie[FP] | I'm going to have to do interrupt support >:( |
| 23:06:41 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:07:10 | Stevie[FP] | the archos player firmware appears to use the ATA interrupt |
| 23:07:25 | BoD[] | (hello?) |
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| 23:14:34 | MiChAeLoL | where do you get those rockbox emu's? |
| 23:14:41 | | Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) |
| 23:15:38 | Stevie[FP] | what rockbox emu's? |
| 23:19:15 | BoD[] | (???) |
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| 23:20:38 | zebda57 | hi all |
| 23:20:41 | | Join archtelamon [0] (archtelamo@du185119.spa.ptd.net) |
| 23:20:44 | archtelamon | hey guys |
| 23:20:51 | Bagder | howdy |
| 23:20:51 | Zagor | MiChAeLoL: he is writing it |
| 23:20:56 | archtelamon | is it possible to overload rechargabke batteries? |
| 23:21:06 | Zagor | yes |
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| 23:21:08 | archtelamon | i think i overloaded my batteries and now my Archos will not load |
| 23:21:23 | archtelamon | would that be the root of my problem> |
| 23:21:41 | archtelamon | cuz earlier it was saying:"Hard Drive Error Please Check HD" |
| 23:21:41 | Stevie[FP] | oh |
| 23:21:42 | Stevie[FP] | Zagor |
| 23:21:47 | zebda57 | I just get my 2nd archos jukebox : the first was a 20GB (upgraded to 80GB) recorder and this one - the last - is a FM 20 GB recorder |
| 23:22:34 | Zagor | archtelamon: could be. bad batteries can cause very weird behaviour. |
| 23:22:40 | archtelamon | thanks |
| 23:22:47 | archtelamon | my hypothesis |
| 23:22:47 | Stevie[FP] | I need a 'nix program to make a fat32 fs |
| 23:22:51 | archtelamon | is correct |
| 23:23:27 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: mkdosfs -F 32 |
| 23:23:35 | Stevie[FP] | stevie@fpay69:~$ mkdosfs |
| 23:23:35 | Stevie[FP] | bash: mkdosfs: command not found |
| 23:23:50 | Bagder | dosfstools-2.8.src.tar.gz |
| 23:23:55 | Bagder | want it? |
| 23:23:59 | zebda57 | But I buy it from canada (hotmp3gear) so I get it with an Us power supply 110V and I m in france where wqe use 220V , SO I d like to know if I could use a universal power supply ? for example I ve one of 500ma and I see in some shops some of 800ma, so my question is could I use the 800mA power supply without problem ?? and if I use the 500mA will it make the charging ti,e longer ? |
| 23:24:06 | Stevie[FP] | yeah (but not via dcc) |
| 23:24:06 | zebda57 | thanks for your answers |
| 23:24:18 | Stevie[FP] | i'll need to wget |
| 23:24:26 | Zagor | zebda57: yes the 800mA will work fine |
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| 23:24:34 | Zagor | if you have the correct plug and polarity |
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| 23:24:37 | Bagder | Stevie[FP]: http://storebror.haxx.se/dosfstools-2.8.src.tar.gz |
| 23:24:54 | * | Stevie[FP] connects |
| 23:25:04 | Stevie[FP] | 403 forbidden |
| 23:25:06 | montykid | irc://efnet |
| 23:25:11 | Stevie[FP] | im forbidden! |
| 23:25:13 | * | Stevie[FP] cries |
| 23:25:14 | Bagder | hang on |
| 23:25:16 | zebda57 | ok Zagor, thanks, but If I use the 500ma what happens ? it takes more time to charge |
| 23:25:23 | Zagor | zebda57: yes |
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| 23:25:33 | Bagder | Stevie[FP]: try again |
| 23:25:38 | Stevie[FP] | yay |
| 23:25:52 | Stevie[FP] | not even a configure |
| 23:25:55 | Stevie[FP] | simple program |
| 23:26:00 | zebda57 | zagor: I could use universal power supply of 800 mA and higher ?? e.g. 1000mA ?, will it work |
| 23:26:05 | Bagder | made for linux |
| 23:26:50 | Stevie[FP] | everything still uses configure :P |
| 23:27:10 | Stevie[FP] | okay lessee |
| 23:27:19 | Stevie[FP] | a 256mb hard drive should be enough to start with, no? |
| 23:28:44 | Zagor | zebda57: actually for the fm recorder I don't know. I don't have the fm. |
| 23:30:41 | zebda57 | zagor: thanks I stop my question now, here in france it is already 23:45 sO good night all |
| 23:30:47 | Stevie[FP] | mmh |
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| 23:30:50 | Stevie[FP] | maybe 256mb is a bit much |
| 23:31:23 | * | Stevie[FP] makes a 64MB hd |
| 23:32:17 | Stevie[FP] | You must set heads sectors and cylinders. |
| 23:32:17 | Stevie[FP] | You can do this from the extra functions menu. |
| 23:32:20 | Stevie[FP] | meh |
| 23:32:55 | Stevie[FP] | let's see, that's 131072 sectors |
| 23:33:38 | Stevie[FP] | lets see, 8 heads * 128 cylinders * 128 sectors per cylinder will work |
| 23:34:04 | Stevie[FP] | gah |
| 23:34:09 | Stevie[FP] | I can only do 63 |
| 23:36:11 | Stevie[FP] | errr |
| 23:36:45 | Stevie[FP] | anybody know the code for a fat32 partition ? |
| 23:37:31 | Zagor | 0x0c or 0x0b iirc |
| 23:39:20 | Stevie[FP] | hmm |
| 23:39:36 | Stevie[FP] | one says 'win95 fat32' the other says 'win95 fat32 (LB' [I believe it's trying to say 'LBA'] |
| 23:41:21 | Stevie[FP] | 0x0b |
| 23:41:32 | Stevie[FP] | 0x0c says 'fat32 using extended int13 services(?)' |
| 23:42:39 | Stevie[FP] | meh |
| 23:42:44 | * | Stevie[FP] wonders how to do that... |
| 23:43:00 | Zagor | never mind the partition type. neither archos nor rockbox cares. |
| 23:43:34 | Zagor | it's frequently incorrect anyway... |
| 23:44:00 | Stevie[FP] | okay |
| 23:44:06 | Stevie[FP] | now for a real challeneg |
| 23:44:09 | Stevie[FP] | challenge even |
| 23:44:24 | Stevie[FP] | it's trivial to mount a file as a partition using -o loop |
| 23:45:23 | Stevie[FP] | but I need to figure out how to treat a file like it's an actual HD :-o |
| 23:46:16 | Zagor | there is no such layer in linux. you need to write the ata emulation layer, methinks |
| 23:46:26 | Stevie[FP] | ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/ig/ccd/enhanced_loopback/ |
| 23:46:29 | Stevie[FP] | or not :) |
| 23:52:09 | tracktheripper | Zagor will there ever be an "Archos Emulator" on the site? |
| 23:54:33 | MT | can I ask a generic C question? |
| 23:54:56 | MT | if i have a memory pointer, and call realloc, can I leak memory that way? |
| 23:55:17 | MT | or will it free the previous block if it moves the data |
| 23:56:16 | Zagor | tracktheripper: maybe, if someone writes one |
| 23:56:27 | Zagor | MT: it will free the old block |
| 23:56:34 | MT | ace |
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| 23:57:07 | Bagder | but only if realloc succeeds |
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| 23:57:25 | Bagder | which it of course does most of the time ;-) |
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