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00:38:36 | * | Yeft gets his fm recorder tomorrow!!! |
00:38:44 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
00:38:46 | midknight2k3 | GO YEFT |
00:38:49 | midknight2k3 | ITS YOUR BIRTHDAY |
00:38:52 | midknight2k3 | or something |
00:39:07 | Yeft | 5 min til my computer finishes calculating pi to 32 mb of decimals |
00:39:27 | Yeft | now that would be a cool rockbox screensaver demo thing |
00:39:48 | midknight2k3 | you never saw the demos |
00:39:53 | midknight2k3 | cause you only had a player right? |
00:39:57 | Yeft | yeh |
00:40:06 | midknight2k3 | fm recorder is sooooo cooooooooooooool |
00:40:10 | Yeft | ha |
00:42:52 | Yeft | i wish i had money left from my mp3 so i could donate to rock box lol |
00:43:04 | midknight2k3 | you're a noble man yeft |
00:43:21 | Yeft | but i dont |
00:43:27 | Yeft | maybe when i get my paycheck... |
00:43:33 | midknight2k3 | its the thought that counts |
00:44:19 | Yeft | mp3 isnt really mpeg 3 right, its mpeg-1 but just audio? |
00:44:29 | midknight2k3 | uh |
00:44:32 | midknight2k3 | i think its mpeg 3 |
00:44:58 | Yeft | hmmmm |
00:45:16 | midknight2k3 | mpeg 1 is standard mpeg, mpeg 2 is DVD IFO and VOBs, mpeg 3 (i think) is mp3 and mpeg 4 is the new thing archos came up with that's really unneeded |
00:46:27 | Yeft | how bout mpeg7 :)\ |
00:46:35 | midknight2k3 | there is none is there? |
00:46:59 | Yeft | http://www.cselt.it/mpeg/ |
00:47:36 | midknight2k3 | yeeee |
00:48:03 | Yeft | it took my computer under 2 hrs to calculate 32mb of pi |
00:48:12 | midknight2k3 | 32mb of pi? |
00:48:25 | Yeft | it limits the file size to 32 mb :( |
00:48:52 | midknight2k3 | what−−- everrr |
00:49:00 | Yeft | lol i love pi |
00:49:09 | Yeft | hey in the calculation the last number is 6 |
00:49:48 | midknight2k3 | PIE! |
00:49:51 | midknight2k3 | Pie is goooood |
00:51:24 | BoD[] | it's not exactly that |
00:51:46 | midknight2k3 | I know |
00:51:50 | midknight2k3 | god lol |
00:51:56 | Yeft | i know |
00:52:01 | midknight2k3 | im just saying that "pie" with an "e" is good |
00:52:02 | Yeft | its a pretty close approximation though |
00:52:08 | Yeft | you know |
00:52:15 | midknight2k3 | oh |
00:52:16 | BoD[] | nono i was talking about the mpeg thing |
00:52:18 | midknight2k3 | never mind lol |
00:52:21 | Yeft | oh lol |
00:52:26 | midknight2k3 | hahah |
00:52:31 | midknight2k3 | what's wrong with it?> |
00:52:37 | midknight2k3 | im sure it's not exactly correct |
00:52:38 | BoD[] | mp3 is mpeg 1 layer 3 |
00:52:44 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
00:52:47 | midknight2k3 | i was thinking about that |
00:52:49 | BoD[] | mpeg 3 doesn't exist imo |
00:52:58 | midknight2k3 | yes |
00:53:07 | BoD[] | mpeg4 is what in inside divx |
00:53:22 | midknight2k3 | good idea bod |
00:53:25 | BoD[] | and mpeg7 is i think the next generation |
00:53:50 | midknight2k3 | lol |
00:53:56 | Yeft | weee mpg7 |
00:54:13 | Yeft | ...why would they just go and skip 5 and 6 |
00:54:19 | Yeft | ....marketing |
00:55:28 | Yeft | so i only have pi to about 31 million digits on my computer |
00:55:35 | midknight2k3 | yay |
00:55:39 | Yeft | thats a pretty good approximation ya think? |
00:55:45 | midknight2k3 | no |
00:56:01 | midknight2k3 | a character is a gigabyte |
00:56:17 | midknight2k3 | i mean a number is a gigabyte |
00:56:17 | Yeft | now i have to figure out how to make that into cool screensaver |
00:56:27 | midknight2k3 | neat |
00:56:37 | Yeft | so my computer can only hold 80 numbers? |
00:56:37 | midknight2k3 | STUPID |
00:56:41 | midknight2k3 | hahaha |
00:57:06 | Yeft | ok, so all a screen saver is, is a program that runs when your computer is idle correct |
00:57:25 | midknight2k3 | DUH |
00:57:27 | Yeft | so i could make a program, and just call it a screensaver so it runs when i'm gone and thats a screen saver! |
00:57:28 | midknight2k3 | i mean ues |
00:57:36 | midknight2k3 | yes |
00:57:38 | Yeft | so now i need to put my 3 days of C++ to use |
00:58:11 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
00:58:16 | midknight2k3 | YEFT WOOHOOO |
00:59:06 | Yeft | nah |
00:59:09 | Yeft | this isnt gonna work |
00:59:10 | Yeft | lol |
00:59:26 | midknight2k3 | yah woo oh |
00:59:37 | midknight2k3 | just give UP |
00:59:56 | Yeft | ok |
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01:03:53 | midknight2k3 | gleam |
01:05:23 | midknight2k3 | glady |
01:05:34 | earHurts | ever heard of snowcrash for winamp? |
01:05:43 | midknight2k3 | no |
01:05:50 | midknight2k3 | is it a visualization? |
01:06:10 | earHurts | it's a webserver |
01:06:16 | midknight2k3 | oh right |
01:06:27 | earHurts | you can control winamp from any webnbrowser |
01:06:36 | midknight2k3 | thats dumb |
01:06:44 | earHurts | why? |
01:07:04 | midknight2k3 | control winamp from browser or simply open the program itself? i wonder |
01:07:32 | earHurts | i'mn in my bathtub with my pda, which has a browser |
01:07:51 | midknight2k3 | COOOOOOOLLL |
01:07:54 | midknight2k3 | just control your PC |
01:08:19 | earHurts | mny verion of zaurus doesn't have a funcionin vnc client |
01:08:30 | midknight2k3 | not VNC |
01:08:35 | midknight2k3 | that was what i used to like |
01:08:36 | earHurts | so I can control my 'stereo' remotely |
01:08:41 | midknight2k3 | use "RAdmin: |
01:08:58 | midknight2k3 | you can access files, shutdown, log off, control, view, or "telnet" |
01:09:01 | earHurts | does radmin have a linux client? |
01:09:09 | midknight2k3 | oh i dont know |
01:09:14 | midknight2k3 | i dont think so\ |
01:09:26 | earHurts | can it control thw winamp plaist or volume? |
01:09:39 | midknight2k3 | yes |
01:09:44 | midknight2k3 | it can control the whole computer |
01:09:55 | earHurts | and that's good. |
01:09:58 | midknight2k3 | or view it or reboot it or shut it off or access the files without using my computer |
01:10:16 | earHurts | but I just wannt a nice interface to winamp |
01:10:33 | midknight2k3 | uh huh |
01:10:47 | earHurts | and snowcrash provides it |
01:10:52 | midknight2k3 | well if you go to school that has a network and PCRdist you'd like RAdmin too |
01:11:21 | earHurts | sure. each has its uses, and radnmin is a more general pupose one |
01:11:35 | midknight2k3 | you heard of it or used it? |
01:12:06 | earHurts | i think i actually saw a semi-functional gpl port somewhere |
01:12:15 | midknight2k3 | whatever lol |
01:12:16 | earHurts | nnnnever used it |
01:12:19 | midknight2k3 | did you ever use RAdmin? |
01:12:28 | earHurts | i've used vnc |
01:12:37 | midknight2k3 | radmin is soooo mcuh beter |
01:12:43 | midknight2k3 | esp if you're in my position |
01:12:56 | earHurts | but I need it to run on my zaurus |
01:13:01 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
01:13:14 | midknight2k3 | if youre in my position i had meant |
01:13:26 | earHurts | gotcha |
01:13:34 | midknight2k3 | haha |
01:13:40 | midknight2k3 | the best position to be in |
01:15:05 | earHurts | nbecuase snocrash is a wenb server, you don't need any client except a web browser. |
01:15:13 | midknight2k3 | yes |
01:15:30 | midknight2k3 | but in my position radmin works.... how do i say, excellenter than perfect |
01:15:33 | earHurts | I guess I could use the vnnc wenb server too |
01:15:38 | midknight2k3 | UGLY |
01:15:43 | earHurts | yeah |
01:15:44 | midknight2k3 | its all slow and stuff |
01:15:48 | earHurts | true |
01:16:31 | midknight2k3 | but when you've got PCRdist, thirty computers in a library and RAdmin setup to hide the tray icon and you have a list of the IP addresses of all the computers it gets good |
01:17:53 | earHurts | find me a linux client |
01:18:44 | midknight2k3 | RADMIN ROCKBOX |
01:18:46 | midknight2k3 | OOOPS |
01:18:47 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:18:52 | midknight2k3 | i means RADMIN ROCKS |
01:19:01 | midknight2k3 | go damn why do i keep putting in rockbox when i mean rockbox |
01:19:04 | midknight2k3 | GODOODODOOD |
01:19:08 | midknight2k3 | go damn why do i keep putting in rockbox when i mean rocks |
01:19:14 | midknight2k3 | i almost did it again |
01:20:09 | Yeft | whats this about library computers and ips??????? |
01:20:28 | midknight2k3 | remote administrator so i can access files and control them hehehehhehehe >:) |
01:20:36 | Yeft | hmmmmm |
01:20:44 | Yeft | is this freeware? |
01:20:46 | midknight2k3 | yes |
01:20:50 | midknight2k3 | but man |
01:20:53 | midknight2k3 | here's the scoop |
01:20:59 | Yeft | lay it down |
01:21:21 | earHurts | radnmin doesn't appear to nbe free |
01:21:26 | earHurts | vnc is |
01:21:29 | midknight2k3 | at the school library we have a netowrk with our own usernames but me and three others found out if you type in "libstudent" it runs a program called PCRdist |
01:21:49 | midknight2k3 | whatever's in the network folder PCRdist gets restored to the computers if you run it |
01:21:49 | Yeft | pcrdist is? |
01:22:02 | Yeft | oh.. |
01:22:03 | midknight2k3 | in a sense it formats drive and reinstalls all stuff thats in the PCRdist folder |
01:22:05 | midknight2k3 | no |
01:22:07 | midknight2k3 | radmin |
01:22:09 | midknight2k3 | is free |
01:22:17 | midknight2k3 | you can buy it but it works free to |
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01:22:29 | earHurts | limitesd time trial? |
01:22:30 | Yeft | do you get admin access to the computers? |
01:22:57 | midknight2k3 | so if you put RAdmin in the PCrdist folder, every time you run libstudent it installs RAdmin to the computer and no one can see it (no tray icon etc) |
01:23:05 | midknight2k3 | earhurts, no - yeft, no |
01:23:10 | Yeft | well thats why god created reshack or /wdasm |
01:23:31 | midknight2k3 | i dont want admin access |
01:23:37 | earHurts | I njust googled, said it wasn't free |
01:23:50 | midknight2k3 | if i can put something in the network folder "pcrdist" and when i run libstudent it puts it on the computer then im good |
01:23:53 | Yeft | and your schools admins dont noticed something called RAdmin in teh PCRdist folder???? |
01:24:04 | midknight2k3 | no |
01:24:06 | midknight2k3 | actually |
01:24:16 | midknight2k3 | it's installed to C:\windows\java\classes ahahahhahah |
01:24:20 | midknight2k3 | unfindable |
01:24:27 | midknight2k3 | no start menu or program files folder either |
01:24:29 | earHurts | $35 |
01:24:29 | midknight2k3 | and no try icon |
01:24:32 | MT | i can beat that actually |
01:24:33 | midknight2k3 | radmin.com |
01:25:19 | earHurts | 30 day free trial |
01:25:26 | MT | whil i was at school i socially engineered the default teachers password and hacked a way for users to have unlimited filestorage and backed up all our games to a disk on the print server |
01:25:32 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
01:25:38 | earHurts | I try very hard only to use open source |
01:25:39 | midknight2k3 | wow |
01:25:44 | midknight2k3 | but i dont want that |
01:25:48 | midknight2k3 | its hard to explain |
01:25:50 | midknight2k3 | this is better |
01:26:09 | MT | whats better than admin rights and unlimited filestorage? |
01:26:14 | midknight2k3 | all you need to do is type in a certain network name to have it install anything you want and you can do it on any computer |
01:26:25 | midknight2k3 | PCRdist MT |
01:26:39 | MT | but you will get caught |
01:26:40 | MT | altho |
01:26:42 | midknight2k3 | no |
01:26:53 | MT | some school IT departments are shocking |
01:27:02 | midknight2k3 | never mind lol |
01:27:06 | midknight2k3 | it's hard to explain |
01:27:14 | MT | i still think you will get caught :) |
01:27:21 | midknight2k3 | but if you knew what it's for and tried it yourself you'd say it's better than much else |
01:27:22 | MT | no, i understand completely |
01:28:08 | Yeft | my schools IT dept = non existant |
01:28:38 | Yeft | i've been trying to get admin rights for the entire year, but i can't do it because i'm not uber l33t like the rest of you guys |
01:28:43 | midknight2k3 | yes i see radmin is 30 day trial |
01:28:58 | midknight2k3 | snag a keygen off of astalavista then |
01:29:22 | MT | eh |
01:30:12 | Yeft | mt any idea how to make a screensaver without one of those junker slideshow programs? |
01:30:23 | midknight2k3 | HAAH |
01:31:19 | Yeft | cuz i wanna make a matrix type screensaver except with PI |
01:31:23 | earHurts | windows screensaver? |
01:31:39 | midknight2k3 | yahahahahhahhahhhahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahayahahaahahyayhahayayah |
01:31:40 | Yeft | oui |
01:31:58 | MT | isnt there a matrix screensaver in xscreensavers |
01:31:59 | MT | oh |
01:32:03 | MT | windows |
01:32:17 | earHurts | a .scr is pretty much a windows .exe, which follows certain comnnmand line conventions |
01:32:20 | MT | i expect theres some api you can develop to |
01:32:25 | MT | yeah |
01:32:29 | Yeft | ......me....no |
01:33:06 | MT | why do the ideas people never program anything other than their video :P |
01:33:13 | earHurts | it njust creates a full screen window in the anscence of args, and pops up a config dialogue if given the right argumnet |
01:33:33 | Yeft | and i dont want a matrix screensaver i want a pi screensaver like the matrix one |
01:33:41 | earHurts | download source to an existing screensaver' and hack it |
01:33:45 | Yeft | MT : "why do the ideas people never program anything other than their video :P" ? |
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01:35:03 | Yeft | uh oh |
01:35:05 | midknight2k3 | helo |
01:35:07 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:35:08 | Yeft | the track is back |
01:35:34 | midknight2k3 | 250 midknight2k3 |
01:35:42 | midknight2k3 | :D |
01:35:44 | tracktheripper | helloooooooooooooo |
01:36:11 | tracktheripper | hey yeft |
01:36:14 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:36:53 | tracktheripper | hello |
01:36:56 | tracktheripper | whats up? |
01:36:57 | tracktheripper | >:D< |
01:37:20 | midknight2k3 | GOO GA GAI THE SMELL OF TRACK MAKES ME PUKE LOTS |
01:37:31 | tracktheripper | :-( |
01:37:49 | midknight2k3 | sorry tracktheripper |
01:38:02 | tracktheripper | why did u say that for?! |
01:38:05 | tracktheripper | :-( |
01:38:09 | midknight2k3 | i was joking |
01:38:13 | tracktheripper | :-( |
01:38:15 | tracktheripper | )-: |
01:38:21 | tracktheripper | <−−−−−−−− is hurt now |
01:38:27 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
01:38:30 | midknight2k3 | i didnt mean to! |
01:38:33 | midknight2k3 | right? |
01:38:36 | tracktheripper | ok |
01:38:38 | tracktheripper | :) |
01:38:44 | midknight2k3 | :D |
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01:40:15 | earHurts | control my stereo from the bathnrub is so cool |
01:40:22 | tracktheripper1 | duh im tracktheripper and i stink |
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01:40:31 | midknight2k3 | you do track? |
01:40:45 | midknight2k3 | Bath N' Rub? Sounds cool. |
01:41:15 | earHurts | now if i could just tele commute |
01:41:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Yeft |
01:41:16 | Yeft | tracktheripper1 (jirc@AC9CF227.ipt.aol.com) has joined but is a Clone of midknight2k3 « people» |
01:41:21 | Yeft | :) |
01:41:34 | midknight2k3 | what an insult! |
01:41:39 | midknight2k3 | How dare you? |
01:41:45 | tracktheripper | midknight why are u being so rude to me for? |
01:41:46 | tracktheripper | :-)( |
01:41:49 | tracktheripper | :-(( |
01:42:02 | midknight2k3 | it wanst me a swear* |
01:42:04 | earHurts | he has a talent for it. ;) |
01:42:11 | midknight2k3 | hfajdaksfhdakjsdfhkajsfhafd*wrongadjhfakjsdf |
01:42:13 | Yeft | hey |
01:42:19 | Yeft | IP addys dont lie |
01:42:32 | Yeft | either does Invision 2.0! |
01:42:59 | tracktheripper | anyway lets kiss and make up everyone |
01:43:01 | tracktheripper | :-) |
01:43:05 | midknight2k3 | smooch |
01:43:17 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
01:43:17 | * | Yeft runs |
01:43:28 | * | midknight2k3 drags em back |
01:43:35 | * | Yeft cries |
01:43:57 | * | midknight2k3 shuts em up and shoves em toward tracktheripper |
01:43:57 | Yeft | tracktheripper1 (jirc@AC9CF227.ipt.aol.com) has joined but is a Clone of midknight2k3 « people» |
01:43:59 | Yeft | oops |
01:44:08 | midknight2k3 | AHA |
01:44:15 | Yeft | : what i meant to do :Jun 14, 2003 2:25 A.M. HORSHAM, PA, US OUT FOR DELIVERY |
01:44:37 | midknight2k3 | AYAY |
01:45:03 | Yeft | which is a half hour from my home |
01:45:12 | tracktheripper | YEFT?!?!?! |
01:45:13 | midknight2k3 | its coming today? |
01:45:18 | Yeft | nah |
01:45:20 | Yeft | cuz |
01:45:23 | Yeft | its sunday |
01:45:26 | midknight2k3 | oh boy |
01:45:30 | Yeft | and mail doesnt get delivered on sunday |
01:45:37 | midknight2k3 | its 'mail' |
01:45:44 | midknight2k3 | not ups or fedex? |
01:45:44 | Yeft | ups is 'mail' |
01:45:50 | midknight2k3 | really |
01:45:53 | midknight2k3 | odd |
01:46:05 | Yeft | i think |
01:46:21 | midknight2k3 | L - O - L |
01:47:21 | tracktheripper | Midknight did i ever show u this request? |
01:47:29 | midknight2k3 | no |
01:47:32 | tracktheripper | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=667757&group_id=44306&atid=439121 |
01:47:51 | midknight2k3 | yes you did |
01:47:57 | jzoss | helo |
01:48:03 | midknight2k3 | helo |
01:48:09 | jzoss | 250 jzoss |
01:48:13 | tracktheripper | hello |
01:48:16 | tracktheripper | jzoss] |
01:49:05 | earHurts | njzoss, you heard of snowcrash for winamp? |
01:49:11 | jzoss | nope |
01:49:13 | midknight2k3 | wow |
01:49:15 | midknight2k3 | l33t right? |
01:49:19 | jzoss | But I don't know much about fancy winamp plugins |
01:49:20 | midknight2k3 | leet snowcrash |
01:49:30 | jzoss | I'm not 1337 |
01:49:39 | earHurts | webn server, serves a page with which you can control winamp |
01:49:43 | tracktheripper | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=679843&group_id=44306&atid=439121 |
01:49:52 | jzoss | for remote-streaming? |
01:50:03 | earHurts | no, local ncontrol |
01:50:14 | jzoss | why do you need a webpage for local control? |
01:50:18 | jzoss | (pardon my ignorance) |
01:50:44 | earHurts | I browse to the page from my wifi equipped pda |
01:51:07 | earHurts | so I can control the winamp on the pc from the pda |
01:51:10 | jzoss | ahhhhh.... gotchya. I'm more of a tabletPC man, myself (I think). But I gotta try before I'll buy. |
01:51:48 | earHurts | tabnlet pc won't fit in your pocket |
01:51:59 | jzoss | And I think I'd prefer an X10-style RF remote-control to run winamp than a web interface. But that's just me. To each his own! |
01:52:05 | earHurts | a pda you can use in the bathtubn (with care) |
01:52:09 | jzoss | lol |
01:52:19 | jzoss | one of my life's goals, to be sure |
01:52:25 | earHurts | :) |
01:53:11 | earHurts | what I like is that browsers are ubiquitous, so the porting to other platforms has been done for you |
01:53:30 | jzoss | tru dat |
01:54:07 | earHurts | the x10n solution would require additonal hardware, no? |
01:54:22 | jzoss | yes. But the PDA can also be considered "additional hardware" for me. |
01:54:48 | earHurts | true dat |
01:54:55 | jzoss | lol. touche' |
01:55:00 | Yeft | ok theres no ups sunday |
01:55:07 | Yeft | and heres how i figured it out: |
01:55:26 | Yeft | i couldnt find it in the FAQ or anything like that |
01:55:32 | Yeft | so i did calculate time for shipment |
01:55:40 | Yeft | and i made sure that it should end on sunday |
01:55:46 | Yeft | and it ended monday |
01:55:48 | Yeft | :) |
01:55:51 | midknight2k3 | :) |
01:55:52 | Yeft | i hate being such a genius |
01:56:02 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:56:08 | midknight2k3 | just be glad you're joking |
01:56:13 | midknight2k3 | it could end up true like my case |
01:57:01 | jzoss | When every minute counts, rely on UPS SonicAir for same-day shipping around the world −− 24 hours a day, seven days a week |
01:57:13 | jzoss | sounds like Sunday to me, genius. |
01:57:23 | Yeft | yeh but i didnt pay for sonicair, bum |
01:57:28 | jzoss | ;) just kidding, Yeft. (about the sarcasm, not the genius part) |
01:57:36 | jzoss | Ahhhh.... that's what I get for jumping in mid-stream |
01:58:01 | * | jzoss sits back down in his seat, hoping noone will notice... |
01:58:14 | Yeft | hehehe |
01:59:26 | earHurts | midk reminded nme that vnc has a webn client too |
01:59:30 | earHurts | thanks midk |
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02:00:38 | earHurts | as the regular one doen't work on my version of zaurus |
02:00:51 | midknight2k3 | lol |
02:01:05 | earHurts | I will try the java version on the wenb server |
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02:01:34 | midknight2k3 | remember |
02:01:40 | midknight2k3 | it's ip address:5800 |
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02:01:57 | Yeft | sryyyyyy |
02:02:13 | midknight2k3 | look at this request by tracktheripper |
02:02:18 | midknight2k3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=706783&group_id=44306&atid=439121 |
02:03:19 | earHurts | yeah 5800 |
02:03:34 | earHurts | paraphrase the request |
02:03:44 | midknight2k3 | you mean summarize it? |
02:03:45 | midknight2k3 | lol |
02:04:01 | midknight2k3 | umm.. "make the archos recorder lcd a touchscreen" |
02:04:40 | earHurts | crap |
02:04:54 | earHurts | opera doesn't render the java page |
02:05:01 | midknight2k3 | haha |
02:05:51 | earHurts | okay, so I need a java applicaton |
02:10:38 | midknight2k3 | bye all |
02:10:42 | midknight2k3 | i be back tomorrow |
02:10:43 | jzoss | bye! |
02:10:55 | midknight2k3 | see you all |
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02:43:52 | jzoss | hiya, jet |
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02:58:50 | Stevie-O | eh |
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03:15:08 | MiChAeLoL | any new things in the last 3 days? |
03:15:25 | Stevie-O | nope |
03:15:29 | Stevie-O | midnight2k3 is still annoying |
03:15:37 | jzoss | be nice! lol |
03:15:41 | MiChAeLoL | lol |
03:15:46 | Stevie-O | I'm not a nice guy |
03:15:47 | MiChAeLoL | no space invaders? |
03:15:51 | Stevie-O | at least, not to people who annoy me |
03:15:53 | MiChAeLoL | or working search patch |
03:16:29 | MiChAeLoL | any idea why when sometimes when i try to turn on my recorder it just flashes a red light and doesnt turn on? |
03:16:57 | Stevie-O | err |
03:17:15 | Stevie-O | that sounds like what IDC says happens when the flash chip has bad data |
03:17:18 | MiChAeLoL | it worked after i held down the on button for like 10 secs but took a couple of tries |
03:17:34 | Stevie-O | weird |
03:17:59 | MiChAeLoL | and also one time it said IO aDdress <a bunch of #'s here> and just froze |
03:18:15 | MiChAeLoL | and had to hold down the off button for a long time to get it to turn off |
03:18:28 | MiChAeLoL | battery at 48% |
03:18:32 | Stevie-O | weird |
03:23:08 | * | MiChAeLoL left to go search for his lost bird some more |
03:40:28 | BoD[] | see you all |
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03:56:19 | MiChAeLoL | what software do you use to program stuff for the jukebox? |
03:57:30 | Stevie-O | ultraedit |
03:58:11 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
03:59:08 | MiChAeLoL | so just like a basic text editor? |
03:59:23 | MiChAeLoL | what is it written in? |
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04:00:16 | Stevie-O | rockbox is written in C |
04:01:18 | MiChAeLoL | regular C? |
04:01:27 | * | MiChAeLoL wants to program something for it |
04:06:55 | Stevie-O | no, C flat |
04:07:03 | Stevie-O | Bjoern's piano was out of tune |
04:07:29 | MiChAeLoL | so would something like |
04:07:31 | MiChAeLoL | int main() { |
04:07:31 | MiChAeLoL | printf("\nHello World"\n"); |
04:07:31 | MiChAeLoL | return 0; |
04:07:41 | MiChAeLoL | } work? |
04:08:13 | Stevie-O | ... no |
04:08:23 | Stevie-O | Use the Source, Luke |
04:09:02 | * | MiChAeLoL is confused |
04:17:14 | * | MiChAeLoL is completely confused after looking at the source |
04:19:31 | MiChAeLoL | what is the file it loads at startup? |
04:19:38 | MiChAeLoL | want to edit it to say "Mikebox |
04:20:34 | MiChAeLoL | and what brand of remote does rockbox support? |
04:28:26 | MiChAeLoL | oh yeah, it should be written in be sharp :p |
04:35:10 | Stevie-O | d flat |
04:40:25 | MiChAeLoL | c sharp |
04:40:34 | MiChAeLoL | b flat |
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05:36:14 | jzoss | earHurts: you there? |
05:37:11 | OliverKlozoff | ynes hne ins |
05:40:34 | earHurts | yup |
05:40:40 | earHurts | wassup? |
05:40:57 | earHurts | very funnnnnnny oliver |
05:41:03 | jzoss | I've got a work-in-progress of my id3.c taglist mods. Would you mind taking a look and giving feedback? |
05:41:20 | earHurts | what's the url? |
05:41:49 | jzoss | email'd be easier. Can I send it to you? |
05:41:55 | earHurts | yah. |
05:42:07 | earHurts | rockbox@diffenbach.org |
05:42:29 | jzoss | kay. thx |
05:42:34 | earHurts | np |
05:43:05 | earHurts | btw, I mispoke before. addinng stuff to taglist is probably a bnad idea. |
05:43:13 | jzoss | why? |
05:44:30 | earHurts | we allow >1 entry per destination, e.g, 2 elemts both copy to trackname, TIT2 and TT2 |
05:44:39 | jzoss | yes. |
05:45:11 | earHurts | if we add another membner to taglist, we're going to be addinng a redundant copy. |
05:45:50 | jzoss | as in you're worried about extra memory for redundant extra field info? |
05:46:00 | earHurts | yah. |
05:46:12 | earHurts | i know nit's minicule |
05:46:26 | jzoss | right. like a few bytes. You think it's meaningful? |
05:46:48 | earHurts | ernm |
05:47:08 | earHurts | lemme look at the code |
05:47:25 | jzoss | Woohoo! Go Spurs Go! =) |
05:48:00 | earHurts | woohoo, I got modded up on slashdot1 go me! |
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05:51:23 | earHurts | ok, the xxx_NO_INFO ids are never used in the current build, you realize? |
05:51:29 | jzoss | I use them |
05:51:53 | jzoss | If no info, my editID3 shows the xxx_NO_INFO msg |
05:52:36 | earHurts | can we use a generic "no data for this field"? |
05:53:06 | jzoss | Yah. Some of the ID3 tags don't have associated NO_INFO |
05:53:21 | jzoss | So I already use the generic strings for those |
05:53:40 | jzoss | I didn't realize until later. So I'll probably cut out the NO_INFo field from taglist |
05:54:14 | earHurts | ok, the point of this is to copy id3v1 to id3v2 and vice versa? |
05:57:11 | jzoss | right |
05:57:41 | jzoss | I debated only keeping string-based id3 data, but I'd like to have "old-school" numeric values for "easy" editing. |
05:57:42 | earHurts | why do we want to copy from one style to another? |
05:58:07 | jzoss | Like for genre editing, it'd be nice to scroll through the id3v1 options and not have to edit text directly |
05:58:17 | jzoss | Of course, preserving ability to edit text string freeform if you want to |
05:58:38 | jzoss | So the convert v1<->v2 is to keep things synced up during editing and for read/write of v1 data. |
05:59:03 | earHurts | ok, just my personal opinion, v1 is useless and should nbe deprecated. |
05:59:18 | OliverKlozoff | v1 is not useless |
05:59:25 | OliverKlozoff | it supports all the basic information |
05:59:32 | earHurts | ok, counter argument? |
05:59:53 | earHurts | what does v1 give nme that v2 does not? |
05:59:53 | OliverKlozoff | it's trivial to add an id3v1 tag to a file |
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06:00:08 | OliverKlozoff | it is nontrivial to add an id3v2 tag (because you have to shift the entire file forward) |
06:00:36 | earHurts | yeah, but it also amkes it harder to access v1 info |
06:00:46 | OliverKlozoff | no it doesn't |
06:00:56 | OliverKlozoff | seek(fd, -128, SEEK_END) |
06:00:59 | jzoss | Additional benefits : only compatability with old-school tagreading stuff. And, to some extent, standardization. It's easier to keep your genre tags consistent if you use a predefined than free-text always. |
06:01:22 | earHurts | jzoss it sure is easier |
06:01:44 | earHurts | but it's also incorrect for many of my uses |
06:01:50 | jzoss | yes. I agree. |
06:01:58 | OliverKlozoff | so? |
06:02:12 | OliverKlozoff | last time I checked earth had a population of over 6 billion people |
06:02:15 | earHurts | I have a lot of albums and tracks with |
06:02:18 | OliverKlozoff | you are one person |
06:02:24 | earHurts | > 30 chars |
06:02:25 | jzoss | But if I have all my files with both id3v1 and v2 tags, I'd hate to "lose" the id3v1 info on the few files I edit because of typos. I'd rather have them all keep all the info they started with. |
06:02:48 | jzoss | Yes. > 30 chars is a MUST. So my files all will always have v2 tags |
06:02:52 | earHurts | good point, jzoss |
06:03:54 | earHurts | ok, here's my thought. all your stuff is depndant on struct mp3entry |
06:04:02 | jzoss | And I don't think it's all *that* bad to keep them in sync. Certainly no more risky than shifting file data to resize for a larger id3v2 segment |
06:04:34 | earHurts | yeah, the in sync argunment is persuasive |
06:05:48 | jzoss | okay... so I do depend on mp3entry lots |
06:06:22 | earHurts | ok, you're treating the old int memnbers as v1 |
06:07:18 | jzoss | yes. And there's also extra char[30] buffers floating around for the string data (it's stored doubly just so I don't have to worry about which tags have separate v1 storage and which don't) |
06:07:23 | earHurts | that's not bad |
06:07:40 | earHurts | wait |
06:08:13 | earHurts | why not njust consider the first up to 30 as v1? |
06:09:21 | earHurts | ugh! don't give taglist an explicit size! |
06:09:34 | earHurts | let the compiler figure that out. |
06:09:34 | jzoss | Sorry... that was debugging I forgot to take out |
06:09:45 | jzoss | Had problems getting the v2list and v1list to compile correctly |
06:10:30 | earHurts | yeah, and all those hardcode "+n"s are ugly. |
06:10:48 | MiChAeLoL | can ya send one to me too :D:D |
06:10:48 | MiChAeLoL | (fm version) |
06:11:35 | jzoss | earHurts: right any better idea on how to do that? |
06:11:52 | earHurts | ok, can you get rid of the extra pointers by considering v1 to bne the first 30 chars of thw v2 string? |
06:12:32 | jzoss | which extra pointers? The v2list and v1list arrays? |
06:13:08 | earHurts | get rid of the v1 pointers, yeah. |
06:13:34 | earHurts | and the v1 members of mp3entry |
06:14:28 | jzoss | Probably. It just means more run-time conversions of v2->v1 if we don't cache those values in the mp3entry |
06:15:10 | earHurts | ah. the nul terminator |
06:15:26 | jzoss | To be clear: I still kinda need the id3v1list and id3v2list arrays to scan over. But I can definitely see ways to get rid of the v1_* structs in mp3entry |
06:16:05 | jzoss | Shouldn't need to have a NULL for your concept of stealing the first 30 chars as v1. It just requires some creative copying on v2->v1 conversion |
06:16:56 | earHurts | depends on how they're displayed. |
06:17:09 | earHurts | printf style conversions... |
06:17:22 | earHurts | will %s take a width? |
06:18:10 | jzoss | You'd probably have to strncpy it out to a tmp string before printf-ing |
06:18:27 | earHurts | if not, yeah |
06:18:46 | * | MiChAeLoL wonders when someone is gunna make space invaders |
06:19:18 | * | MiChAeLoL also begs someone to send a version (fm recorder) of the firmware with the chip8 emulator patch applied :D:D |
06:19:41 | earHurts | what's chip8? |
06:20:57 | jzoss | I think an old processor style. Like Z80 games, only different. =) |
06:21:01 | MiChAeLoL | an old system with games |
06:21:02 | MiChAeLoL | like z80 |
06:21:09 | jzoss | beatya to it! |
06:21:10 | jzoss | lol |
06:21:14 | MiChAeLoL | pong etc... |
06:21:53 | * | MiChAeLoL begs someone to compile it and send it to him |
06:22:00 | jzoss | in progress |
06:22:33 | MiChAeLoL | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=628509&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
06:22:38 | MiChAeLoL | :D:D |
06:22:48 | MiChAeLoL | if someone does compile it ill post a link with it for all the begging people |
06:22:54 | earHurts | http://www-ccs.ucsd.edu/c/lib_prin.html |
06:23:06 | earHurts | ok, we can specify width to printf |
06:24:38 | * | MiChAeLoL begs for someone to send the chip8 emu compiled to him (fm recorder version) |
06:24:39 | earHurts | michael, can't do it before about 20 hours from now |
06:24:45 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
06:24:59 | MiChAeLoL | if i could only get cygwin to wor |
06:24:59 | jzoss | yeah, official printf does. I'm not sure how ti works in rockbox, though |
06:25:01 | MiChAeLoL | k |
06:25:27 | earHurts | my source trees got a lot of mods in it |
06:25:39 | earHurts | I'll have to download fresh source |
06:26:23 | earHurts | then we mnake rocknbox more official. |
06:26:45 | earHurts | that's worth doing even if we don't use it ourselves |
06:26:56 | jzoss | true |
06:27:26 | earHurts | and I'll have places I'll want it anyway |
06:29:44 | earHurts | ok, if you read old tags like TT2, you'll still end up writing a TIT2. Is that going to be a problem for users using old taggers? |
06:29:50 | MiChAeLoL | stupid cygwin |
06:30:19 | earHurts | michael, are you using the sh1 target? |
06:30:32 | jzoss | maybe. {shrug}. I think it'd be too hard to try and match the id3tag->write with the type found during id3->read |
06:31:55 | earHurts | yeah, but if the user edits the tags and they 'disappear' in his pc tagger.... |
06:32:00 | MiChAeLoL | dont know |
06:32:08 | MiChAeLoL | if i could get cygwin to run i would find out |
06:32:20 | MiChAeLoL | want htis sooo badly "Chip 8 games are simple but there are many interpretations of classic games, pong, joust, breakout, space invaders and so on. There are also some more modern games such as tetris, and that game everyone has on their Nokia, with the worm chasing its tail. |
06:32:25 | jzoss | yup. Maybe I should use a neural network to predict how best to handle these tags. ;) j/k |
06:33:07 | earHurts | we could keep a bitmap of what was read |
06:33:31 | jzoss | jpg would be smaller. Or where you serious? ;) |
06:33:41 | earHurts | serious. |
06:33:54 | jzoss | I'm assuming you mean bit (byte) map, not picture-style |
06:34:00 | earHurts | yeah |
06:34:19 | earHurts | we have at most two possibilities per tag |
06:34:23 | jzoss | Seems a minor issue to me.... what'dya think? Something I need to address? |
06:34:33 | jzoss | Two possibilities now. Maybe more in v2.4 or later |
06:34:33 | MiChAeLoL | would be cool if someone ported a ti-calc emu to it |
06:34:39 | MiChAeLoL | then we could play all the ti games |
06:36:12 | earHurts | possible, but i suspect they'll keep the names the same. |
06:36:17 | MiChAeLoL | if i had that emu i could be playing breakout :( |
06:36:38 | jzoss | MiChAeLoL : compile done. Send to where? |
06:36:44 | MiChAeLoL | dcc it to me ? |
06:36:46 | MiChAeLoL | :D:D:D |
06:37:03 | earHurts | nice of you jzoss |
06:37:14 | * | MiChAeLoL gives jzoss 5 bucks |
06:37:27 | MiChAeLoL | now ill just have to find bigred2k |
06:37:46 | MiChAeLoL | or rather midnight2k3 |
06:37:52 | MiChAeLoL | thinking of someone else |
06:37:55 | MiChAeLoL | i know he wants it too |
06:39:01 | earHurts | ok, here's my main criticism of your approach: by maining two fields, you hvae to ndo a lot of synching |
06:39:03 | MiChAeLoL | awww crap |
06:39:10 | MiChAeLoL | thats the old version resumed |
06:39:13 | earHurts | maintaining, even |
06:39:14 | MiChAeLoL | let me delete it |
06:39:34 | MiChAeLoL | could ya send it again? |
06:39:52 | earHurts | instead, why not have a single record, and two ways of 'mining' that data. |
06:40:28 | MiChAeLoL | could ya send it again? |
06:40:49 | jzoss | MiChAeLoL : Yah? What's wrong? |
06:41:02 | MiChAeLoL | had an old file with the same name |
06:41:04 | MiChAeLoL | it resumed it |
06:41:13 | MiChAeLoL | thats why it send in 0 sec's |
06:41:22 | MiChAeLoL | thanks much appricated |
06:42:34 | jzoss | earHurts : using a single record doesn't actually save any "synching", if I still want to use id3v1 data in editing. It just means the operations are run-time conversions instead of run-time syncing. Same thing, really. Just no mp3entry cache location |
06:42:41 | earHurts | you'll need to mine in two cases, on display, and onwrite |
06:43:51 | jzoss | Display: not really, 'cause I'll just use the v2 info there. |
06:44:14 | jzoss | conversion happens on : 1) read (from v1, if it falls through to that) |
06:44:17 | jzoss | 2) v1 write |
06:44:18 | * | MiChAeLoL tries it out |
06:44:33 | jzoss | 3) "easy edit" using v1-style (e.g. int) data |
06:45:36 | earHurts | editing ints is easier because you give a list of values. |
06:46:02 | earHurts | but no need to save the ints |
06:47:02 | jzoss | Right. I'm just fine with only keeping a single copy in the mp3entry and run-time converting. |
06:47:15 | jzoss | It's a valid point. I'll make that change |
06:48:43 | earHurts | now if you only convert on write/display |
06:49:13 | earHurts | you don't need the hardcoded "+n"s |
06:50:38 | earHurts | just an array of conversion functionns |
06:51:35 | jzoss | I don't think so. The "generic tag" display/edit functions need to scan over a list. Those +n arrays provide lists of tags that are unique in mp3entry-space (as opposed to tag-space) |
06:52:44 | earHurts | yes, my point exactly |
06:52:52 | MiChAeLoL | damn this is nice |
06:53:11 | MiChAeLoL | too bad ya cant view the ball in break out that easily (too small) |
06:53:24 | earHurts | you list is only depedant on mp3struct |
06:53:34 | earHurts | untiln you actually write |
06:55:09 | earHurts | don't get me wrong. it's good code you've writtenn. |
06:55:17 | jzoss | Yes, it would probably be sufficient to do an array that directly references offsets to mp3entry (instead of indirectly through taglist). And a separate entry for the conversion functions |
06:55:22 | jzoss | I see what you're getting at |
06:55:49 | earHurts | I'm only examining it so nclosely because I know you want it to be good. |
06:56:10 | jzoss | I dunno... on the one hand is a more "localized" representation (all info in taglist) and on the other hand is more direct referencing (directly to mp3entry) |
06:56:32 | jzoss | Maybe I'll run the option by Z or Linus. Since they'll be ultimately reviewing it |
06:58:17 | earHurts | I do database stuff, so I'mn trying for 'normal form': no redundant data |
06:59:43 | jzoss | Fair enough |
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07:00:04 | jzoss | thx for your help... I'm gonna sleep now. But I'll ask Z or Linus tomorrow if I "see" them |
07:00:09 | jzoss | night all! |
07:00:24 | earHurts | night! |
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07:01:16 | MiChAeLoL | night |
07:01:22 | * | MiChAeLoL posts a link |
07:01:30 | earHurts | nnight |
07:01:36 | MiChAeLoL | night |
07:01:46 | * | MiChAeLoL posts a nlink |
07:06:34 | MiChAeLoL | hehe the link has been posted http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&aid=628509&group_id=44306 |
07:08:16 | MiChAeLoL | oooo ooo oo anyone with compiling skills here? |
07:08:43 | MiChAeLoL | all /me needs now is http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=746474&group_id=44306&atid=439120 the text editor with word wrap |
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09:30:25 | earHurts | badger? |
09:30:43 | tracktheripper | earhurts its Bagder, not Badger |
09:31:14 | earHurts | quite right, thanks. |
09:31:59 | earHurts | bagder, does the rocknbox prinntf family support a width specifier for %s? |
09:33:28 | earHurts | e.g., printf( "%.1s", "foo" ) ; = |
09:33:46 | earHurts | => f |
09:36:42 | earHurts | and printf( "%.*s", "foo", 1 ) ; => f |
09:37:15 | earHurts | and printf( "%.*s", "foo", -1 ) ; => foo |
09:42:19 | earHurts | anybody nnknow thee url for browsing the cvs code as htnml? |
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09:43:40 | earHurts | nevernmind. found the url |
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09:49:49 | earHurts | line 110 of sprintf.c seems inefficient |
09:50:26 | earHurts | and it doesn't appear that widths of * are supported |
09:52:56 | tracktheripper | when can we dump recordings in a folder of ur choice rrather than the root? |
09:53:12 | Bagder | earHurts: nope |
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09:53:49 | earHurts | nope it's not supported, you mean? |
09:53:55 | Bagder | correct |
09:54:13 | Bagder | it is pretty simple that implementation |
09:54:29 | tracktheripper | bagder recording needs tyding up |
09:54:30 | earHurts | any reason why we don't just lift, say, gcc's implementation? |
09:54:43 | Bagder | because of size and speed I guess |
09:54:58 | earHurts | ok. |
09:55:30 | Bagder | tracktheripper: so fix it |
09:55:36 | earHurts | how about we add the * width and fix line 110 then? |
09:55:52 | tracktheripper | i already have fixed it Bagder :-) |
09:56:10 | Bagder | earHurts: I wouldn't mind that |
09:56:31 | earHurts | you doing it, or am I? |
09:56:41 | tracktheripper | ive resorted to the Archos firmware for recording and playlist duties |
09:56:58 | Bagder | please go ahead, I'm a bit busy atm |
09:57:26 | earHurts | ok, give me 24 hours? |
09:57:32 | Bagder | oh sure |
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09:57:50 | earHurts | you busy with rocknbox stuff? |
09:58:02 | Bagder | no, with other things |
09:58:10 | earHurts | cool |
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16:59:23 | Bluechip | hi, just writing a game for jbr, what does my game_main() have to return? |
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17:02:01 | hardeep | Bluechip: take a look at the other games in apps/recorder for examples (eg. tetris.c and sokoban.c) |
17:03:42 | Bluechip | I will look also in tetris and worms then, sokoban didn't have it commented |
17:05:31 | Bluechip | so am I correct to say that you return false unless you detect a SYS_USB_CONNECTED? |
17:05:41 | Bluechip | ...then you return true |
17:05:59 | hardeep | yeah |
17:06:17 | Bluechip | cool - cheers |
17:08:23 | Stevie[FreedomPa | yeah |
17:08:30 | Stevie[FreedomPa | unless you want to be buggy like half of the menu items |
17:08:42 | Stevie[FreedomPa | (ex: most of the debug menu items) |
17:09:15 | Bluechip | yeah, one thing I plan to do is tidy up the menus so at least the keys remain the same throughout! |
17:09:32 | Bluechip | ...lol - even one of the debug options uses a different exit key! |
17:10:52 | Bluechip | got the logic and AI all running using dos i/o, so now to convert all the i/o to rockbox, compile and test!! |
17:12:56 | Stevie[FreedomPa | yeah |
17:13:03 | * | Stevie[FreedomPa abhors taht |
17:13:22 | Stevie[FreedomPa | another example: the only way to exit the F2 menu is F2, same for F3 |
17:14:33 | Bluechip | the menu system is a bit of a mess all round, but in fairness, the effort has clearly been made to get stable working features |
17:15:47 | Stevie[FreedomPa | have you seen the menutest? |
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17:16:30 | Bluechip | no |
17:16:36 | Bluechip | not even heard of it |
17:16:50 | Stevie[FP] | do you have an fm or recorder? |
17:17:01 | Bluechip | recorder |
17:18:13 | Bluechip | fyi: "MAS regs" uses LEFT to exit, every other option uses OFF |
17:18:23 | Stevie[FP] | Changelog for 1.51.41b: |
17:18:23 | Stevie[FP] | (6/16/2003 10:57AM) |
17:18:23 | Stevie[FP] | - "Balance View" mode should now support magic tags. |
17:18:23 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Stevie[FP] |
17:18:23 | Stevie[FP] | - Now sending the next transaction ID to be used to MOMA as parameter 103. |
17:18:24 | Stevie[FP] | err |
17:18:31 | Stevie[FP] | http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/rockbox/menutest5-rec.ajz |
17:19:08 | Bluechip | "mas codec" uses left of off; "view io ports" only uses off |
17:20:36 | Bluechip | what is this? |
17:20:43 | Bluechip | "menutest"? |
17:20:52 | Stevie[FP] | try it |
17:22:01 | Bluechip | right now I will keep working - I will play later when I start going mad - I have gotta try and get the UI simulator to work next.... wish me luck :) |
17:31:24 | Bluechip | are there any api docs around or is it "dig through the code"? |
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17:33:14 | Bluechip | if not, maybe i could write one as I go - be a good way for me to memorise it all |
17:33:59 | Bluechip | cuppa T, brb. |
17:36:33 | Bluechip | bak |
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17:41:13 | Bluechip | any programmers around atm? |
17:46:54 | hardeep | Bluechip: yeah |
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18:02:08 | Bluechip | hardeep: still there? |
18:04:42 | hardeep | Bluechip: yeah |
18:04:47 | Bluechip | :) |
18:04:56 | Bluechip | is there an api currently available? |
18:05:07 | Bluechip | if not would it be useful for me to build one as I go |
18:05:09 | Bluechip | ? |
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18:05:18 | Yeft | is any one here |
18:05:20 | hardeep | Bluechip: not one that has been updated in the past year or so |
18:05:22 | Yeft | i have a crisis |
18:05:23 | Yeft | lol |
18:05:41 | Bluechip | didn't see it on the docs page |
18:05:50 | hardeep | Bluechip: the code is pretty easy to read but I doubt anyone would complain if you wrote up an api doc :) |
18:06:01 | Yeft | ok well yesterday my hard drive messed up big time, and i had to format my computer, which deleted about 1000 of my mp3 files |
18:06:15 | Yeft | most of which are stored on my old 6gb jukebox, but that broke |
18:06:28 | Bluechip | yeft: data recovrey software will do a good job if your drive was NOT fragmented |
18:06:41 | Yeft | hmmmmm...... |
18:06:42 | Yeft | thanks |
18:07:08 | hardeep | I don't think you'll be able to recover now that you formatted it |
18:07:19 | Bluechip | HD: i will jot down what I find - just prototypes for the main calls |
18:07:19 | hardeep | what's "broke" on your jukebox? |
18:07:30 | Yeft | it doesnt turn on |
18:07:41 | Bluechip | hd: where is the tyear old doc |
18:07:53 | Yeft | i think its cause i broke some soldering attached to the battery thing < : ) |
18:08:09 | hardeep | Bluechip: docs/API |
18:08:40 | hardeep | Yeft: the hard drive on your jukebox is probably okay then... just connect it to your computer to retrieve the MP3s |
18:09:03 | Bluechip | AHHH! in the dev kit - D'OH - was looking on the web site |
18:09:05 | Yeft | connect...how |
18:10:03 | hardeep | Yeft: you just need an adapter to attach a laptop hard rive to your pc |
18:10:55 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
18:10:55 | * | Stevie[FP] calls archos tech support |
18:11:12 | Yeft | LOL |
18:11:20 | Yeft | there is a tech support??????????????????????????? |
18:12:24 | Bluechip | hd: how big is an int? |
18:12:56 | hardeep | Bluechip: on the SH-1 it's 4 bytes iirc |
18:13:11 | Bluechip | thanks |
18:14:07 | Yeft | is hard drive 2 words? |
18:14:37 | Bluechip | yes |
18:14:39 | Stevie[FP] | yup |
18:14:46 | Yeft | aigh |
18:14:49 | Stevie[FP] | Yeft: well |
18:14:51 | Stevie[FP] | there's a number |
18:15:14 | Yeft | lol steve |
18:15:24 | Yeft | sweet 10 $ for the adapter |
18:17:12 | Stevie[FP] | 6 minutes 11 secs so far |
18:17:17 | Stevie[FP] | good thing I'm at work, where I don't pay for LD |
18:18:51 | Bluechip | button.h suggests that it is impossible to identify between RC keys and Unit keys |
18:19:38 | Stevie[FP] | ... |
18:19:43 | Stevie[FP] | what do you think the modifier BUTTON_REMOTE means? |
18:20:50 | Bluechip | I would think it meant that there was a modifier for remote buttons - what a shame there is not one in button.h - perhaps someone could/should add it |
18:21:50 | hardeep | Bluechip: there is one now as Stevie[FP] mentioned... comments may be incorrect in code |
18:22:33 | Bluechip | not looking at code comments - I'm looking at the complete lack of a #define |
18:22:46 | hardeep | Bluechip: are you using latest CVS? |
18:23:04 | Bluechip | nope, i've got the official released code |
18:23:28 | hardeep | Bluechip: switch to latest CVS.... there have been many changes since 2.0 was released |
18:23:45 | Bluechip | :( bugger |
18:23:59 | hardeep | Bluechip: whatever patch you make will have to be updated to latest CVS anyways, might as well start using it from beginning |
18:24:03 | Yeft | getdataback is doin its thing right now |
18:24:06 | Yeft | hopefully it works |
18:24:57 | Yeft | crap it doesnt do xp........ |
18:24:58 | Stevie[FP] | 14 minutes |
18:25:00 | Stevie[FP] | of music |
18:25:08 | Stevie[FP] | 'all available agents are busy' |
18:25:19 | Stevie[FP] | groups of 3 annoying beeps |
18:25:30 | Stevie[FP] | and some instructions that I think might be important, but were WAY too quiet for me to hear |
18:26:00 | Stevie[FP] | 15 minutes |
18:26:02 | Bluechip | yes, makes sense, shame though, means I have to run untested code to test my code! |
18:26:11 | Stevie[FP] | untested code? |
18:26:35 | Bluechip | i presume CVS just gives me that latest bunch of hacks |
18:26:46 | Stevie[FP] | it's more than the 'latest bunch of hacks' |
18:26:50 | Stevie[FP] | did you look at the date on 2.0? |
18:27:21 | Bluechip | the date was not of interest to me, i just wanted a officially sanctioned known-working release of the code to play with |
18:27:30 | Stevie[FP] | ah |
18:27:39 | Stevie[FP] | well the rest of us live in in the daily builds |
18:27:57 | Stevie[FP] | for example, menutest5 was against sometime in may |
18:28:09 | Bluechip | no idea what that is |
18:28:16 | Stevie[FP] | I told you to check it out :P |
18:28:18 | Stevie[FP] | omg |
18:28:21 | Stevie[FP] | i think ig ot someone |
18:28:28 | Stevie[FP] | at the 17:30 mark |
18:28:43 | Stevie[FP] | 17:45... |
18:28:45 | hardeep | Bluechip: the latest CVS is quite stable |
18:28:46 | Stevie[FP] | still ringing... |
18:29:18 | Yeft | archos tech support? |
18:29:23 | Yeft | what are you asking? |
18:29:30 | Bluechip | Yes, you did, i think I explained that I was too busy to install something when I didn't even know what it was |
18:29:38 | Bluechip | had no use for it |
18:29:42 | Bluechip | etc. |
18:30:30 | Bluechip | I'm trying to get MY code compiling, I am not in the mood for beta someone elses code |
18:31:09 | Yeft | hey if you get a hold of them, tell them CD-KEY #: 2H4QQ-5JK75-3Qj24-2U227 says hi |
18:33:29 | Yeft | ok does anyone here run xp |
18:33:32 | * | Yeft hides before he's laughed at |
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18:33:43 | hardeep | Yeft: i run xp |
18:33:44 | Stevie[FP] | wooo |
18:33:53 | Stevie[FP] | they picked up |
18:33:55 | Stevie[FP] | after 18 minutes |
18:34:07 | Stevie[FP] | they must know their QA is crap |
18:34:07 | Yeft | ok i have a question, about the reason i had to format.... |
18:34:21 | Stevie[FP] | Handspring was much more reluctant to issue an RMA when I had a problem |
18:35:18 | Yeft | whenever i would turn the computer on, it would bring up a blue screen displaying some hex (i think 00000000 x 000000ED) or something and that i should restart or unistall hardware does that make sense? |
18:36:30 | hardeep | Yeft: could be any number of issues that could cause that |
18:36:49 | Yeft | but it would stop there... i couldnt boot at all |
18:36:54 | Yeft | in safe mode or anything |
18:36:55 | hardeep | Yeft: a reinstall is not a bad idea if that starts happening |
18:37:25 | Yeft | reinstall,....windows? |
18:37:25 | hardeep | Yeft: although it's usually best to first confirm that it's not a hardware issue |
18:37:34 | hardeep | Yeft: yeah |
18:37:46 | Bluechip | yeft: i agree, the problem was far more likely windoze than the player :( |
18:37:46 | Yeft | only hardware i had in was the keyboard, and mouse |
18:38:46 | hardeep | Yeft: er, you have more hardware than that on your pc... e.g. memory/video card/sound card/cpu etc. |
18:39:49 | Yeft | true |
18:39:51 | Bluechip | yeft: if it happens again, try your player on a friends machine before giving up :) |
18:39:56 | Yeft | but i didnt install any myself |
18:40:26 | hardeep | Yeft: that doesn't mean that there can't be a problem with them |
18:40:51 | Bluechip | yeft: sadly windoze has many bugs still - even if you run ALL of the updates - GPFs (blue screens) are SOFTWARE errors - sometimes caused by faulty hardware - but rarely |
18:41:26 | Yeft | ok....... |
18:41:27 | Yeft | hmm |
18:41:34 | Yeft | is there any freeware data recovery? |
18:41:38 | hardeep | Bluechip: I would disagree on XP, only time i've encountered blue screens are when there were hardware problems |
18:41:45 | Yeft | damn people who try to make money from programming : P |
18:42:10 | Bluechip | hd: <shrugs> my experience of XP was all driver related bugs |
18:42:29 | Bluechip | dropped back to '98 and all my hardware started working again! |
18:43:15 | Yeft | i found freeware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
18:43:16 | Yeft | yay |
18:43:21 | Bluechip | :) |
18:44:00 | Yeft | you guys will probably have to talk me through it though cuz the reviews at download.com say that you need to know youre about partitions and junk, and i umm....dont |
18:44:28 | Bluechip | np |
18:44:53 | Bluechip | which s/w are you going to try first? |
18:45:20 | Yeft | me? |
18:45:29 | Bluechip | yeft: yes, sorry, you :) |
18:45:44 | Yeft | lol ok.......its called PC Inspector |
18:45:53 | Bluechip | the german one? |
18:45:53 | Yeft | bah insector* |
18:46:42 | Bluechip | or is that PC Information Recovery - there are quite a few to try |
18:47:07 | Yeft | well all i know is its free lol |
18:47:19 | Bluechip | ;) |
18:47:42 | Yeft | lol because stuff you have to pay for bites! |
18:48:58 | Bluechip | it amazes me how much better most freeware is when compared to its commercial equivalent |
18:49:00 | Yeft | ok i know its there, because after a search with a shareware one if ound all my files |
18:49:10 | Bluechip | :) |
18:49:20 | Bluechip | formatting doe NOT erase data! |
18:50:11 | Bluechip | hardeep: is there a daily tar-ball of source? (i just wanna get going and not read up on CVS) |
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18:54:27 | Yeft | lol it is pc inspector |
18:54:39 | MiChAeLoL | hello |
18:54:52 | Bluechip | hello |
18:54:55 | MiChAeLoL | anyone tried the text editor with word wrap? |
18:55:05 | Bluechip | nope |
18:55:52 | MiChAeLoL | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=746474&group_id=44306&atid=439120 i would gladly try it if i could compile it |
18:56:03 | Yeft | hmmm |
18:56:48 | Yeft | bad parameter in boot sector : root directory cluster (2401318673) > count of clusters! |
18:56:55 | Yeft | does that mean anything to anyone? |
18:57:17 | * | MiChAeLoL left to go look for his lost parrot |
18:57:26 | Bluechip | possibly dodgy partition table - says that your root directory is stored off the end of the drive |
18:57:45 | Bluechip | how big is the drive? |
18:57:51 | Yeft | 76 gb |
18:58:19 | Bluechip | does the recovery software have a drive size limit? |
18:58:29 | Yeft | .... ill check |
18:58:52 | Bluechip | not too sure if that number is reasonable, never tried with such a big drive |
18:59:55 | Yeft | hey , doesnt make you less of a man ; ) |
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19:00:32 | Bluechip | lol |
19:00:50 | Bluechip | what makes you think I'm a guy? |
19:01:07 | Stevie[FP] | hmm |
19:01:17 | * | Stevie[FP] wonders how many females have actually ventured into this place |
19:01:31 | Yeft | lol |
19:01:31 | Bluechip | 3? |
19:01:34 | Bluechip | ever |
19:01:45 | Stevie[FP] | I'm thinking that it's very small |
19:01:50 | Bluechip | and one of those thought it was a dike chat group |
19:02:02 | Stevie[FP] | they thought we were talking about damns? |
19:02:06 | Stevie[FP] | weird |
19:02:24 | Stevie[FP] | anyway, statistically you're likely to be male |
19:03:19 | Bluechip | statistically everybody on the planet has just over 1/2 penis (am I allowed to say that here?) |
19:03:38 | Stevie[FP] | err |
19:03:44 | Stevie[FP] | that's not a correct statement |
19:03:47 | Yeft | ok |
19:03:56 | Yeft | when i run "Find Lost Data" |
19:03:58 | Yeft | it says: |
19:04:07 | Stevie[FP] | 'if I could find it, it wouldn't be lost' |
19:04:17 | Bluechip | lol |
19:04:58 | Yeft | access violation at address 004B6A7C in module 'filerecovery.exe' write of address 13A026E6 |
19:05:05 | Yeft | so this means............. |
19:05:27 | Bluechip | the software wont run on your machine |
19:05:33 | Yeft | crap that |
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19:05:54 | Bluechip | wow - they've stopped calling it a "GPF" |
19:06:24 | Yeft | ? |
19:06:26 | Bluechip | steve: you a programmery type |
19:06:47 | Bluechip | yeft: filerecovery.exe just GPF'ed |
19:06:59 | Yeft | gpf meaning |
19:07:06 | Bluechip | general protection failure |
19:07:10 | Yeft | oh |
19:07:17 | Bluechip | accessed memory it did not have privs for |
19:07:29 | Bluechip | it is issued by the CPU |
19:07:57 | Yeft | i'm admin what doesnt it have privs for |
19:08:43 | Bluechip | memory address 13A026E6 |
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19:09:09 | Yeft | if i beat the crap out of my computer you think itll give me privs? |
19:09:49 | Bluechip | as i say, it is a CPU issue, not a OS issue, it will be a stray pointer most likely - possible caused by the bad sector read from the drive and a complete lack of error checking by the guy who wrote filerecovery.exe |
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19:10:15 | Yeft | that bastard |
19:10:16 | Scorp | hey guys, can the player run some apps besides rockbox itself? where can I find them? |
19:10:29 | Scorp | also do you know fi any physical stores sell the travel kit ? |
19:10:40 | Bluechip | HEYYYYY, finally found the daily source - obvious when you know where to look ! |
19:12:01 | Yeft | so no one knows good data recovery software (free) |
19:12:20 | Bluechip | is vitual lab free? |
19:12:31 | Bluechip | bad copy? |
19:12:50 | Yeft | virtual lab isnt free |
19:12:52 | Yeft | i dont think |
19:12:56 | Bluechip | getdataback? |
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19:13:18 | Yeft | getdataback is a lot too... |
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19:15:15 | xpfred | hello ! |
19:15:59 | MiChAeLoL | so could i buy the remote seperate? |
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19:16:12 | Bluechip | yes |
19:16:16 | Bluechip | £13 |
19:16:19 | MiChAeLoL | where? |
19:16:22 | Bluechip | archos |
19:16:44 | xpfred | I've got a little question for you : how can I avoid the red led bug ? |
19:16:59 | Bluechip | remove the red led :) |
19:17:04 | xpfred | lol |
19:17:07 | MiChAeLoL | lol |
19:17:16 | MiChAeLoL | hold the off button when it happens |
19:17:31 | Yeft | windows xp is NFTS right |
19:17:36 | Yeft | NTFS* |
19:17:47 | xpfred | Sometimes it's continously on, and sometimes it blinks ... what does this mean ? |
19:17:59 | xpfred | I know how to switch off my device, thank you :D |
19:18:07 | Bluechip | blinking is HDD access and is normal |
19:18:13 | xpfred | And Windows XP is NTFS and/or FAT |
19:18:37 | Yeft | ok ty |
19:18:53 | xpfred | Is it really normal when it blinks regularu and for about a minute ? |
19:18:59 | MiChAeLoL | so will other remotes work? |
19:19:04 | MiChAeLoL | or just the archos brand |
19:19:14 | Yeft | i will not resort to downloading my mp3 collection again : ) |
19:20:03 | Bluechip | with archos f/w - only archos remote; with rockbox, it *may* be possible to add support - depending on any number of factors |
19:24:00 | Bluechip | *** can someone explain why there are no changes listed for Rec SIm Win32, and yet two errors have disappeared? |
19:26:21 | Stevie[FP] | because nobody uses rec sim win32 |
19:32:50 | Bluechip | oh! how should I test my code then? |
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19:35:47 | Stevie[FP] | I always wind up testing it empirically |
19:35:56 | Yeft | I WILL GET MY MP3S BACK |
19:36:09 | Stevie[FP] | Yeft: you should have BACKED THEM UP |
19:36:18 | Yeft | they were! |
19:36:21 | Bluechip | by "nobody" do you mean "everybody" or "many people"? |
19:36:22 | Yeft | on my JB6000 |
19:36:25 | Yeft | but that broke too |
19:36:39 | Stevie[FP] | Bluechip: I've found the Simulator to be of no use |
19:36:53 | Stevie[FP] | since it doesn't accurately represent most of the features |
19:37:41 | Stevie[FP] | ok |
19:37:42 | Stevie[FP] | i am hungree |
19:37:45 | * | Stevie[FP] is away [fewd] [KS-MsgLog Off] |
19:38:13 | Bluechip | I only want to test my screen and keypad handling |
19:38:29 | Bluechip | takes a bloomin' age to transfer and reboot |
19:47:50 | * | MiChAeLoL waits for his 6.90 $ usb 2.0 card to get to him |
19:48:00 | MiChAeLoL | lol the shipping costed more then the pci card |
19:48:40 | Bluechip | I hunted in the UK and finally got one for £10 - local shops wanted £35 |
19:50:54 | MiChAeLoL | "Do not use with the Jukebox Multimedia & Jukebox FM Recorder" does it work with the fm recorder? |
19:52:25 | MiChAeLoL | damn cheapest i can find the travel kit is for 33 bucks http://shop.store.yahoo.com/erwincomputers/arjukauttrav.html |
19:53:40 | MiChAeLoL | no support for other remotes? |
19:53:53 | MiChAeLoL | would be cool if rockbox could add support for some cheap brandx remote |
19:55:30 | Bluechip | remote can be purchased seperately |
19:55:36 | MiChAeLoL | could someone compile http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=746474&group_id=44306&atid=439120 that patch for the fm recorder version? |
19:55:37 | MiChAeLoL | where? |
19:55:58 | Bluechip | i just phoned archos uk, and ordered one |
19:56:34 | MiChAeLoL | hmmm how much was it again? |
19:56:41 | Bluechip | £13 |
19:56:47 | Bluechip | GBP |
19:56:49 | MiChAeLoL | but if its in the uk im probably gunna pay a lot on shipping |
19:57:18 | MiChAeLoL | 21.8455 USD |
19:57:19 | Bluechip | probably need a loan to ship something out of the UK - there's probably a cardboard box tax that needs to be paid |
19:57:41 | MiChAeLoL | yea would probably be cheaper for me just to get the travel kit |
19:57:46 | Bluechip | :( sadly |
19:58:09 | Bluechip | another pair of headphones for the kids to play with :) |
19:58:17 | MiChAeLoL | hehe |
19:58:41 | MiChAeLoL | 1 USD = 0.844482 EUR damn going to europe and stupid ass bush messing with the exchange rate :( used to be around 1 to 1 |
19:59:17 | MiChAeLoL | time to go play some basketball |
19:59:33 | Bluechip | good idea :) |
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20:29:26 | * | Stevie[FP] is back from [fewd] [gone 51mins 41secs] [KS] |
20:32:38 | Yeft | is there any real warez sites that actually have downloads and arent just "VOTE US THEN DOWNLOAD" a hundred times in a row~!!!!!!!!?????????????? |
20:34:38 | Stevie[FP] | no |
20:35:34 | Yeft | ok |
20:35:36 | Yeft | just wondering |
20:36:26 | Bluechip | you love your generalisations don't you steve |
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20:40:45 | Yeft | anyone wanna make a crack for me!????? |
20:45:36 | Yeft | i dont think you know how good it feels to listen to my music |
20:48:06 | Yeft | holy crap i think i'm in heaven! |
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20:48:51 | Yeft | I LOVE IT |
20:48:55 | Yeft | I LOVE IT |
20:50:27 | Yeft | I'M MISSING MAYBE 20 SONGS |
20:50:29 | Yeft | HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA |
20:52:12 | Yeft | quick question... |
20:52:26 | Yeft | do any files lose informatioin? |
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21:04:50 | Yeft | adsf |
21:05:57 | Stevie[FP] | jkl; |
21:06:32 | Yeft | lol |
21:06:39 | Yeft | but you didnt notice i messed it up? |
21:07:08 | Yeft | anyways so i did a search right, and i found pretty much EVERYTHING!!! but will like the ends of some files be trimmed? |
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21:23:43 | Yeft | question if anyone is here? |
21:24:07 | Zagor | i am |
21:24:24 | Yeft | any clue about data recovery? |
21:24:41 | Zagor | huh? |
21:24:48 | Yeft | like GetDataBack |
21:27:45 | Zagor | you should probably just ask your question... |
21:28:13 | Yeft | well you see getdataback is just shareware, but it has to save the files SOMEWHERE temporarily |
21:28:17 | Yeft | and i wanna know where that is |
21:28:44 | Zagor | did you just run it? |
21:29:08 | Yeft | yes |
21:29:20 | Yeft | but i cannot copy files without the key |
21:30:15 | Yeft | so unless you're bored and want to make me a crack ; ) |
21:31:56 | MT | mm |
21:31:57 | Yeft | hmph |
21:32:08 | Yeft | it has the files with stupid id tags like $32 |
21:32:13 | MT | buy the software if its useful |
21:32:21 | Yeft | i would |
21:32:27 | Yeft | but i just bought an archos lol |
21:32:38 | MT | so its not useful enough |
21:32:39 | MT | ? |
21:32:55 | MT | also |
21:33:01 | MT | what has this to do with rockbox? |
21:33:12 | Yeft | my mp3 files |
21:33:13 | Yeft | are lost |
21:33:16 | Yeft | and gone forever |
21:33:18 | Yeft | or not |
21:33:23 | Yeft | but they're here |
21:33:54 | Zagor | Yeft: try some free software instead. like pc inspector or disk investigator |
21:34:09 | Yeft | pc inspector did not work |
21:37:01 | Yeft | another question, quality is gonna be cut down right...... |
21:38:13 | Zagor | quality of what? |
21:38:48 | Yeft | mp3 |
21:38:55 | Zagor | ...when you do what? |
21:39:01 | Yeft | restore the files |
21:39:08 | Zagor | no |
21:39:15 | Yeft | nice |
21:47:38 | Yeft | thanks all! |
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21:52:03 | Stevie[FP] | anyone know where PB9 might lead to? |
21:53:59 | Zagor | beats me |
21:54:47 | Stevie[FP] | it's apparently an input pin |
21:57:42 | Stevie[FP] | err |
21:57:44 | Stevie[FP] | not PB9... |
21:57:49 | Stevie[FP] | 15 14 13 12 |
21:57:49 | Stevie[FP] | PB13 |
21:58:06 | Stevie[FP] | ah |
21:58:08 | Stevie[FP] | MAS I2C |
21:58:20 | Stevie[FP] | scl |
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22:00:47 | Stevie[FP] | wtf |
22:00:58 | Stevie[FP] | are these guys morons or what? |
22:01:52 | Zagor | what are you seeing? |
22:01:56 | Stevie[FP] | they do the equivalent of set_interrupt_level(15) |
22:02:00 | Stevie[FP] | to disable interrupts |
22:02:25 | Stevie[FP] | release the SCL pin for the MAS I2C |
22:02:31 | Stevie[FP] | then set_interrupt_level(0) |
22:02:48 | Stevie[FP] | ... then immediately (absolutely no instructions in between) set_interrupt_level(15) again |
22:03:10 | Zagor | hehe. how ... innovative :) |
22:03:23 | Stevie[FP] | here's the real kicker |
22:03:28 | Stevie[FP] | this results in the following code: |
22:04:01 | Stevie[FP] | (@0x0900f8dc): ldc sr, r0 <- C equivalent: 'x = sr;' |
22:04:16 | Stevie[FP] | er |
22:04:20 | Stevie[FP] | (@0x0900f8dc): ldc r0, sr <- C equivalent: 'x = sr;' |
22:04:28 | Stevie[FP] | (@0x0900f8de): stc sr, r0 <- C equivalent: 'sr = x;' |
22:04:43 | ricII | probely they used some sort of visual compiler... |
22:05:06 | Zagor | lol |
22:05:53 | Stevie[FP] | I'm having difficulty with that |
22:06:11 | Stevie[FP] | cuz on average (for x86 code) Visual C++ generates 20% smaller code than gcc |
22:06:36 | Stevie[FP] | I know this because there was a thread on [linux-kernel] about it |
22:06:49 | Zagor | yeah, vc makes quite good code. |
22:07:06 | Stevie[FP] | AHH |
22:07:14 | ricII | but there people known what to do with tools... |
22:07:36 | Stevie[FP] | hmm no |
22:08:25 | Stevie[FP] | wtf |
22:08:28 | Stevie[FP] | sets SCL for input |
22:08:32 | Stevie[FP] | sets SDA for input |
22:08:48 | Stevie[FP] | they must be pulled high, and the code must be relying on that |
22:10:34 | Stevie[FP] | now that's an interesting test |
22:10:36 | Stevie[FP] | tst r0, r0 |
22:10:39 | Stevie[FP] | negc r2, r1 |
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22:18:47 | NSplit | calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
22:19:17 | NHeal | calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
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22:20:05 | Stevie[FP] | can someone tell me if the MAS SCL/SDA are pulled high or low? |
22:20:41 | Stevie[FP] | ohhh |
22:20:44 | Stevie[FP] | that must be it |
22:20:47 | Stevie[FP] | that's the only explanation |
22:20:48 | Stevie[FP] | EWWW |
22:21:04 | Stevie[FP] | since they're accsesing PBIOR/PBDR/friends as 16-bit registers |
22:21:27 | Stevie[FP] | they're disabling interrupts before modifying each bit, then re-enabling them |
22:22:16 | Stevie[FP] | they must have a macro like this |
22:22:54 | Stevie[FP] | #define SAFE_SET_BITS(reg, mask) do { set_interrupt_level(15); reg |= mask; set_interrupt_level(0); } while(0) |
22:24:15 | Zagor | interesting |
22:25:08 | Stevie[FP] | which sucks, cuz they take 3 instructions to set_interrupt_level(15) and 4 to set it to 0 |
22:26:39 | Stevie[FP] | hmm. |
22:27:42 | Stevie[FP] | it would appear |
22:28:04 | Stevie[FP] | that r0 is used solely for setting the interrupt level |
22:28:18 | Stevie[FP] | so the stupid thing doesn't even need to stc each time |
22:29:37 | Zagor | interesting: "Hi, the FM Recorder has been / being deleted from the Archos product range leaving only the Recorder 20 (Studio range is also been / being deleted)" −− Chris Street, Authorised Archos Reseller |
22:29:58 | Stevie[FP] | odd |
22:31:05 | * | Stevie[FP] wonders why everybody uses 0x05FFFFblah |
22:36:04 | Zagor | that's the documented address |
22:36:28 | Stevie[FP] | yeah |
22:36:43 | Stevie[FP] | and it's also documented that where all those Fs are, is ignored |
22:36:52 | Stevie[FP] | 0x05000blah would be just as effective |
22:37:26 | Zagor | yeah, but what's the gain? |
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22:39:20 | Stevie[FP] | dunno |
22:39:29 | Stevie[FP] | I don't know why they specified the FFFFs in the SH-1 manual |
22:39:46 | Zagor | using the address from the manual will be less confusing for new readers, imho |
22:40:19 | Stevie[FP] | it would seem that if they wanted to make a future CPU that was compatible, it would make more sense if they were triggered off of higher address bits being 1, not 0 |
22:40:34 | Stevie[FP] | they==new ocp regs |
22:40:46 | Stevie[FP] | and they==hitachi |
22:40:55 | Stevie[FP] | use your best judgement to determine the correct replacement :D |
22:41:29 | Stevie[FP] | hmmm |
22:41:33 | * | Stevie[FP] wonders if he's doing that wrong |
22:42:25 | Stevie[FP] | ohhh |
22:42:27 | Stevie[FP] | that's why |
22:42:30 | * | Stevie[FP] kicks himself |
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22:45:52 | Stevie[FP] | the startup code that verifies correct I2C operation must differ from the main code |
22:46:45 | carloseb | anyone answer a 'user question' about vbr mp3's? |
22:49:40 | Zagor | carloseb: sure |
22:50:35 | carloseb | cool.. i've just put some vbr files on my archos.. discovered i need to use the update vbr feature to 'fix' them.. |
22:50:52 | carloseb | works like a charm, but i'm wordering if theer's a way to do it off the arhcos.. prior to loading |
22:50:56 | carloseb | any idea? |
22:51:18 | Zagor | sure. there's a program called "vbrfix" |
22:51:30 | carloseb | aha.. google here i come... thanks! :) |
22:51:32 | Zagor | i think there's another one too. something like "mp3 repair" or similar |
22:51:43 | carloseb | excellent.. :) |
22:53:31 | carloseb | thanks again |
22:53:34 | carloseb | *wave* |
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22:57:16 | * | MiChAeLoL wants word wrap |
22:57:48 | MiChAeLoL | hey zagor, could you add http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=746474&group_id=44306&atid=439120 that to the daily build? |
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22:58:01 | Zagor | not now |
22:58:05 | Yeft | I GOT MY FM RECORDER |
22:58:15 | Stevie[FP] | oh |
22:58:18 | Stevie[FP] | Zagor, you won't believe this |
22:59:28 | MiChAeLoL | will you? |
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23:00:03 | Zagor | MiChAeLoL: yes, it's planned to go in |
23:00:40 | MiChAeLoL | when? |
23:00:50 | Zagor | we don't make schedules |
23:01:10 | MiChAeLoL | today tommorrow next week or a month from now? |
23:01:35 | Stevie[FP] | MiChAeLoL: expect it in by june 8th 2010 |
23:01:39 | MiChAeLoL | and you should make it read nfo's too |
23:01:42 | MiChAeLoL | lol |
23:01:50 | Stevie[FP] | because if, by that point, it's NOT in |
23:01:54 | Stevie[FP] | you are unlikely to still care |
23:02:45 | MiChAeLoL | i would compile it myself if cygwin didnt suck so much |
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23:03:37 | Bagder | evening |
23:03:58 | Stevie[FP] | hey Bagder |
23:04:04 | Zagor | howdy |
23:04:46 | * | MiChAeLoL wants wordwrap for .nfo's |
23:05:01 | Zagor | what's an .nfo? |
23:05:54 | * | MiChAeLoL laughs |
23:06:21 | MiChAeLoL | an .nfo is a file released with a ripped downloaded album (who ripped it with info about it etc...) |
23:06:38 | Zagor | why is it called .nfo and not .txt? |
23:06:51 | MiChAeLoL | because it has (i)nfo |
23:06:59 | Zagor | it doesn't have text? |
23:07:01 | MiChAeLoL | or rather "n"fo |
23:07:13 | MiChAeLoL | it does have text, want me to send ya one? |
23:07:19 | Zagor | no thanks |
23:07:36 | Stevie[FP] | the (i)nfo is in text format |
23:07:41 | MiChAeLoL | yep |
23:07:54 | Stevie[FP] | I've long thought that there oughta be some sort of 'view as text' in the ON+PLAY menu |
23:07:58 | Stevie[FP] | truncate at first NUL or something |
23:08:10 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: not a bad idea |
23:08:24 | Stevie[FP] | Zagor: I think I found a way to detect charging of the FM |
23:08:24 | MiChAeLoL | Order Date: 06/09/03 grrr, still havnt gotten it |
23:08:31 | MiChAeLoL | ? |
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23:08:34 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: nice |
23:08:37 | Stevie[FP] | thanks to my broken DC jack |
23:08:38 | MiChAeLoL | cool |
23:08:44 | * | MiChAeLoL has a fm |
23:08:55 | Stevie[FP] | watching carefully |
23:09:00 | Stevie[FP] | as the battery charges more and more |
23:09:18 | Stevie[FP] | the 'etxernal voltage' on the 'view battery' debug thingie drops lower and lower |
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23:09:46 | Stevie[FP] | when the battery is almost dead, the 'external voltage' is slightly higher than the 'battery voltage' displayed on page 2 or 3 |
23:10:02 | MiChAeLoL | ß ßßßßßßßßßÛÛÛ ÛÛÛ ° ÛÛÛ ÛßßßßßßßßßßÛÛÛ ÛÛÛ ° ÛÛÛßßßßßßßÛÛÛ Û²Û |
23:10:08 | Stevie[FP] | hovering around 4.25 volts for battery, 4.30 volts for external |
23:10:10 | MiChAeLoL | thats what one line of a .nfo looks like |
23:10:18 | MiChAeLoL | theirs lots of pretty wordart |
23:10:34 | Stevie[FP] | MiChAeLoL: make us a 'terminal'-like font |
23:10:38 | Stevie[FP] | as the battery charges up more and more, the 'external voltage' drops |
23:10:50 | MiChAeLoL | terminal like? |
23:10:57 | MiChAeLoL | like all funky charchaters? |
23:11:01 | MiChAeLoL | hmmm think i will try |
23:11:03 | Stevie[FP] | MiChAeLoL: to me, that paste looks like garbage |
23:11:13 | MiChAeLoL | fonts dont look that hard to make |
23:11:16 | Stevie[FP] | MiChAeLoL: it needs to be viewed with the original extended ASCII set |
23:11:19 | Stevie[FP] | anyway |
23:11:25 | MiChAeLoL | ? |
23:11:31 | Stevie[FP] | when the 'external voltage' drops below a certain threshold (one which I do not yet know) |
23:11:44 | Stevie[FP] | the original Archos firmware says it's done charging |
23:12:01 | Zagor | MiChAeLoL: fonts aren't hard to make. still someone has to make them. |
23:12:17 | Zagor | Stevie[FP]: ah |
23:12:28 | Stevie[FP] | RB says my battery is at 100% presently, and the external voltage is hovering around 1.52 |
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23:13:01 | Stevie[FP] | I should be able to get you a specific threshold later |
23:13:15 | Stevie[FP] | oh |
23:13:19 | Stevie[FP] | and another thing |
23:13:35 | Stevie[FP] | you know how someone suggested blinking the plug icon to indicate charging? |
23:14:06 | Zagor | yes |
23:14:07 | Stevie[FP] | when only charging via USB, the plug icon blinks like that because of the on/off power application |
23:14:22 | Stevie[FP] | I had another idea tho |
23:15:15 | Stevie[FP] | what if we drew the battery, alternating a 0x55 pattern and a 0xAA pattern |
23:15:35 | Stevie[FP] | that would put moving vertical lines |
23:16:29 | Zagor | yeah. |
23:16:59 | Stevie[FP] | or, drawing 0x55,0xaa,0x55,0xaa then 0xaa,0x55,0xaa,0x55 |
23:17:11 | Stevie[FP] | that would create a sort of flashing checkerboard |
23:17:12 | Yeft | on the fm recorder is there a built in mic? |
23:18:16 | MiChAeLoL | yes |
23:18:45 | MiChAeLoL | if only the fm recorder could record fm in rockbox |
23:18:59 | Bagder | can't it? |
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23:19:15 | Stevie[FP] | okay |
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23:19:22 | Stevie[FP] | my lockup is in a very, very, very large loop |
23:19:42 | Stevie[FP] | approximately 1620 instructions are executed in each iteration |
23:24:07 | Stevie[FP] | waitaminit |
23:25:22 | * | MiChAeLoL wants search feature |
23:26:17 | Stevie[FP] | mmmmh |
23:26:22 | * | Bluechip thinks that all MiChAeLol needs is a C book and some spare time ;) |
23:27:32 | Stevie[FP] | if only it were that easy |
23:27:36 | MiChAeLoL | lol |
23:27:56 | MiChAeLoL | so could someone compile a fm version with the text viewer with word wrap? |
23:27:59 | MiChAeLoL | and dcc it to me? |
23:28:10 | MiChAeLoL | ill then post a linky to it on the patch site |
23:28:45 | Zagor | q |
23:28:45 | Bluechip | so the patch is already written? |
23:28:48 | Zagor | i'm off |
23:28:52 | | Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") |
23:28:53 | Stevie[FP] | hmmm |
23:28:53 | | Quit dw|gone (Remote closed the connection) |
23:28:57 | Stevie[FP] | MAS I2C: Got 0xd0 |
23:29:01 | Stevie[FP] | taht doesn't sound right |
23:29:31 | MiChAeLoL | yes |
23:29:35 | MiChAeLoL | its been written |
23:29:49 | Bluechip | so just pull down all the dev kit and follow the instructions!? |
23:29:53 | MiChAeLoL | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=746474&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
23:29:58 | * | Stevie[FP] grumbles |
23:30:01 | Stevie[FP] | wtf |
23:30:04 | MiChAeLoL | ive tried so many times |
23:30:05 | Stevie[FP] | i'm nto supposed to get 0xd0 |
23:30:07 | MiChAeLoL | cygwin sucks |
23:30:09 | | Join dw|gone [20] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) |
23:30:11 | MiChAeLoL | and wont run on my computer |
23:30:16 | Bluechip | OH! |
23:30:21 | Bluechip | that sucks |
23:30:28 | Bluechip | what error does it give? |
23:30:32 | Bluechip | what os? |
23:30:36 | MiChAeLoL | and i tried to compile it on my linux box and it wont because i already had gcc and binutils installed but not as a cross envornment |
23:30:40 | MiChAeLoL | winxp |
23:31:02 | Bluechip | are there known problems with XP? |
23:31:09 | MiChAeLoL | i dont know |
23:31:22 | MiChAeLoL | it gives me an error message, ill find it again |
23:31:26 | Bluechip | i ask, as I would rather help you solve your problem than build you a single rom |
23:31:38 | MiChAeLoL | yea |
23:31:40 | Bluechip | hope that didn't read harshly |
23:32:17 | MiChAeLoL | nope, i want it so i could compile a ton of patches on the same thing |
23:32:53 | MiChAeLoL | everything i try to run in a command prompt it says <previous command> is not recognized as an internal or external comman, operable program or batch file. |
23:33:08 | Bluechip | WTF! |
23:33:17 | Bluechip | even dir? |
23:33:26 | MiChAeLoL | nope |
23:33:31 | MiChAeLoL | lists the dir of the root drive |
23:33:34 | Bluechip | is this cmd.exe ot bash |
23:33:38 | Bluechip | or |
23:33:38 | MiChAeLoL | yes |
23:33:44 | MiChAeLoL | not command prompt but cmd |
23:33:49 | MiChAeLoL | start->run->cmd |
23:33:51 | Stevie[FP] | you need to use bash |
23:33:55 | Bluechip | you need to be running bash |
23:34:00 | * | Stevie[FP] LARTs MiChAeLoL |
23:34:01 | MiChAeLoL | how? |
23:34:05 | Bluechip | dubble clik cygwin.bat |
23:34:07 | | Quit RedBaran (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
23:34:12 | MiChAeLoL | it opens and closes really fast |
23:34:19 | Stevie[FP] | it should create a start menu option |
23:34:26 | Stevie[FP] | err no |
23:34:29 | Stevie[FP] | that's the official cygwin |
23:34:45 | MiChAeLoL | nope didnt |
23:35:00 | Bluechip | get cmd.exe and type: |
23:35:05 | Bluechip | c: |
23:35:13 | Bluechip | cd \cygwin\bin |
23:35:19 | Bluechip | bash −−login -i |
23:35:23 | MiChAeLoL | its stored on my d: drive |
23:35:27 | Bluechip | then it wont work |
23:35:43 | MiChAeLoL | should i move it? |
23:35:47 | Bluechip | yes :) |
23:36:02 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
23:36:12 | | Quit dw|gone (Remote closed the connection) |
23:36:17 | MiChAeLoL | well i had a previous installment of cygwin on my c drive |
23:36:23 | MiChAeLoL | and i cant delete the folder |
23:36:36 | Bluechip | ahhh, i believe you can only have one cygwin install at a time |
23:36:46 | MiChAeLoL | "cannot delete hosts.ink |
23:36:46 | Bluechip | i *think* i read that somewhere |
23:36:54 | MiChAeLoL | yea but the other version is not installed anywhere |
23:36:59 | MiChAeLoL | the files are just sitting there |
23:37:03 | MiChAeLoL | was from a previous os |
23:37:11 | MiChAeLoL | and neve got deleted |
23:37:25 | Bluechip | why can it not delete that file? |
23:37:30 | Bluechip | it=windoze |
23:38:08 | MiChAeLoL | access is denied |
23:38:16 | MiChAeLoL | ill just rename the folder |
23:38:21 | Bluechip | read only falg? |
23:38:24 | Bluechip | flag |
23:38:43 | MiChAeLoL | doesnt say |
23:38:52 | Bluechip | then check with windoze exploder |
23:38:59 | Bluechip | right clik file and select properties |
23:39:11 | MiChAeLoL | i cant rename the folder? |
23:39:23 | Bluechip | dont use xp, cant say for sure |
23:39:54 | MiChAeLoL | ill try just renaming the old folder and using the other one on the c drive |
23:40:30 | MiChAeLoL | just did bash −−login -i and im logged on |
23:40:36 | Bluechip | tada |
23:40:41 | MiChAeLoL | nothing there |
23:41:14 | MiChAeLoL | it lives |
23:41:27 | MiChAeLoL | but ls doesnt give me any files |
23:41:29 | Bluechip | ls? |
23:41:34 | Stevie[FP] | pwd |
23:41:45 | MiChAeLoL | no i got it to run C:\cygwin\cygwin.bat |
23:41:49 | Bluechip | did you unzip some source code in the right place |
23:41:56 | MiChAeLoL | ? |
23:42:14 | MiChAeLoL | i think i should delete it all and start fresh |
23:42:28 | Bluechip | take a read of this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/firsttime.html |
23:42:39 | Bluechip | ..and then you will know some specific questions i can help |
23:42:56 | MiChAeLoL | think ive read it before |
23:43:07 | MiChAeLoL | yep |
23:43:18 | Bluechip | and this: http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html |
23:43:26 | MiChAeLoL | i think ill try the the GNUSH |
23:43:31 | MiChAeLoL | cross compiler |
23:43:38 | MiChAeLoL | cause cygwin hates me |
23:43:40 | Bagder | I wouldn't |
23:43:47 | Stevie[FP] | damnit |
23:43:51 | Stevie[FP] | where has Linus been |
23:44:01 | Bluechip | okay, I'll let you do it your way ;) |
23:44:06 | #>> | "seen" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
23:44:16 | Stevie[FP] | i'm having a bizarre problem :( |
23:44:27 | Stevie[FP] | the FW seems to be giving unfriendly commands to the MAS chip |
23:45:05 | Yeft | hmm MK wasn't kidding this thing is light |
23:45:15 | MiChAeLoL | hmmm thats messed up |
23:45:20 | MiChAeLoL | think im gunna have to get cygwin to work |
23:45:39 | MiChAeLoL | how do i remove the old cygwin thing from teh reg |
23:46:24 | Bluechip | you will need to look in c:\cygwin\cygwin.reg |
23:47:17 | MiChAeLoL | dammit cygwin is a virus |
23:47:19 | MiChAeLoL | cant delete it |
23:47:54 | Bluechip | LOL - that COULD be your problem - try removing ALL viruses from your machine |
23:48:02 | Bluechip | including windoze, if at all possible |
23:48:05 | MiChAeLoL | never had any |
23:48:06 | Bluechip | ;) |
23:49:13 | | Quit edx () |
23:50:00 | Bluechip | ahh your virus comment was an insult, not a real reason |
23:50:19 | MiChAeLoL | lol |
23:51:01 | MiChAeLoL | crappo cygwin |
23:51:10 | MiChAeLoL | think ill try to get it to work on my linux box again |
23:51:44 | Bluechip | whatever dude, may i suggest you pick a method and stick with it, or you will be forever starting and giving up |
23:52:12 | Bluechip | "cannot erase file" should not be a show stopper |
23:52:56 | Bluechip | cuppa brb |
23:55:52 | * | MiChAeLoL makes binutils |
23:56:12 | * | MiChAeLoL watches the grass compile |
23:57:57 | Bluechip | back |
23:58:30 | MiChAeLoL | gunna compile it on my xbox running linux |
23:58:40 | MiChAeLoL | building binutils on it right now |
23:58:53 | Bluechip | yes, i'm sure there'll be any number of people who can help you if THAT doesn't work first time |