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| 00:32:49 | BoD[] | hi ! |
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| 00:45:11 | nu | good evening all |
| 00:45:22 | nu | LinusN, been looking for you =) |
| 00:46:34 | nu | if you dont mind me asking, i was wondering if you knew of a way to safely get at the first frame in a Fraunhofer VBRI mp3 |
| 00:46:59 | nu | well the first frame which actually contains audio data, that is |
| 00:51:54 | LinusN | aha |
| 00:52:08 | LinusN | you want to find the first "playable" frame? |
| 00:52:48 | LinusN | a fhg vbri frame is easily detected, and the first audio frame comes directly after it |
| 00:52:51 | nu | yep |
| 00:53:22 | nu | yes, i could indeed detect the VBRI tag easily |
| 00:53:33 | LinusN | it is always the same size |
| 00:53:34 | nu | but does this tag have a fixed length ? |
| 00:53:36 | nu | ahhh |
| 00:53:38 | nu | what is it ? |
| 00:53:55 | nu | i thought you'd have to check for its length |
| 00:54:01 | nu | just like you do with frames |
| 00:54:10 | LinusN | it is a 160kbps 44100khz layer 2 frame, iirc |
| 00:54:43 | nu | hm wait a moment tho |
| 00:54:51 | LinusN | it's a normal mp3 frame with silent audio data and extra ancillary data containing the VBR metadata |
| 00:54:51 | nu | the very first bytes of the file |
| 00:55:00 | nu | are a normal frame |
| 00:55:19 | nu | now this frame's length includes the VBRI table |
| 00:55:23 | nu | the problem is |
| 00:55:57 | nu | if i consider the length of this frame as reported by the 4 bytes frame header itself, it's not continuated by another valid fram |
| 00:55:58 | nu | e |
| 00:56:21 | nu | there are some E1 66 48 B0 bytes after it |
| 00:56:22 | LinusN | it should |
| 00:56:30 | nu | instead of a FF FB ... as the first frame |
| 00:56:53 | LinusN | can you email me the first few kbytes of the file? |
| 00:57:10 | nu | surely, or i can take a HIEW screenshot if you prefer |
| 00:57:18 | nu | of the header |
| 00:57:23 | LinusN | i'd like the file |
| 00:57:27 | nu | alright sec |
| 00:57:32 | nu | thanks for your time btw |
| 00:57:37 | LinusN | linus at haxx.se |
| 00:57:48 | BoD[] | :) |
| 00:58:28 | BoD[] | you protect your email on irc |
| 00:59:01 | LinusN | of course |
| 00:59:12 | BoD[] | it's funny |
| 00:59:14 | LinusN | we publish the logs on the rockbox site |
| 00:59:15 | nu | i assume its because of the constant web logging |
| 00:59:23 | nu | which is infact how i managed to get on here ;) |
| 00:59:47 | BoD[] | yes :) |
| 00:59:53 | nu | 74k will do LinusN ? |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:00 | LinusN | sure |
| 01:00:11 | * | LinusN has a crappy dialup nowadays |
| 01:00:22 | BoD[] | how come |
| 01:00:28 | LinusN | waiting for my 2.5mbit/s DSL |
| 01:00:47 | BoD[] | you live in sweden right ? |
| 01:00:49 | LinusN | yup |
| 01:01:01 | nu | sent |
| 01:01:06 | LinusN | was too far from the switch to get 23mbit/s |
| 01:01:16 | BoD[] | the country of ericson :) the home of the communication ! |
| 01:01:20 | LinusN | :-) |
| 01:01:34 | BoD[] | :)) |
| 01:01:39 | nu | country of BBB and cheapo broadband more likely ;P |
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| 01:01:50 | LinusN | and rockbox! :-) |
| 01:01:56 | nu | eheh |
| 01:01:58 | BoD[] | everybody should have high bandwidth in sweden !! |
| 01:02:09 | Stevie-O | everybody should have high bandwidth everywhere |
| 01:02:26 | BoD[] | yes but especially in sweden! |
| 01:02:39 | Stevie-O | lol |
| 01:02:57 | * | Stevie-O installs the win2k ddk |
| 01:06:14 | | Nick BoD[] is now known as BoD[dvd] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) |
| 01:06:18 | Stevie-O | dvd? |
| 01:06:20 | LinusN | nu: you're right, this file looks strange |
| 01:06:40 | LinusN | i think i have seen this before |
| 01:06:44 | LinusN | Musicmatch? |
| 01:06:45 | nu | hmm |
| 01:06:52 | nu | no idea, been given to me for testing purposes |
| 01:07:58 | LinusN | this file looks really weird |
| 01:08:55 | nu | you know fraunhofer released source code for dealing with VBRI headers btw ? |
| 01:09:13 | LinusN | yeah, saw that yesterday |
| 01:09:19 | LinusN | "released", lol |
| 01:09:31 | LinusN | someone got hold of it |
| 01:09:39 | * | BoD[dvd] watches dvd |
| 01:09:39 | nu | oh nope, its on fraunhofer's website |
| 01:09:48 | LinusN | it is? |
| 01:09:53 | LinusN | didn't see it |
| 01:09:55 | nu | yep |
| 01:09:55 | nu | sec |
| 01:10:12 | Stevie-O | hmm |
| 01:10:25 | Stevie-O | anybody know off the toppa their heads how to make squid log hostnames? |
| 01:11:45 | nu | http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/amm/download/mp3_vbr_sdk.zip |
| 01:11:48 | nu | there you go LinusN |
| 01:12:17 | nu | i've used their sdk class, and its handy for detecting and filling up useless structs |
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| 01:12:55 | nu | but beside zero documentation, they dont specify the usage of the TOC or anything else for that matter |
| 01:13:10 | LinusN | it's so unfriendly |
| 01:13:38 | nu | now i'm not that dumb that i dont understand what a seek point is, but its rather unbelievable that i have to find the first audio frame by calling a method like seekPointByPercent |
| 01:14:05 | nu | neverthless, that gets me 8 bytes ahead of what i *believe* is the beginning of the first playable frame in that mp3 i sent you |
| 01:14:27 | nu | i suppose it'll have to suffice :) |
| 01:15:02 | LinusN | the file has a strange encoding |
| 01:16:17 | LinusN | it switches the stereo mode and emphasis each frame |
| 01:16:56 | telliott | I love Hardeep's dynamic playlist feature. Any idea when it woll be in the regular daily builds? |
| 01:17:05 | LinusN | telliott: soon |
| 01:20:15 | LinusN | nu: rockbox searches for valid mp3 headers, btw |
| 01:20:23 | telliott | I was wandering how to tell when my recorder is fully charged under Rockbox. I found the trick is to leave the info screen on. Is there any other way? |
| 01:20:31 | LinusN | so it skips the garbage bytes |
| 01:20:54 | LinusN | telliott: the debug menu |
| 01:21:09 | LinusN | but we will address this issue |
| 01:22:53 | telliott | I was reading the threads. I don't care if it never reads %100. I just want to know when to unplug the external power. |
| 01:23:43 | LinusN | telliott: when you want to go |
| 01:24:04 | LinusN | player or recorder? |
| 01:24:21 | telliott | recorder 20. |
| 01:24:29 | nu | i see LinusN |
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| 01:25:19 | tracktheripper | hello |
| 01:26:52 | LinusN | nu: check out the code for yourself |
| 01:27:08 | tracktheripper | LinusN ive given up on Sokoban |
| 01:27:09 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 01:27:18 | LinusN | tracktheripper: that's a shame |
| 01:27:32 | * | tracktheripper mourns the loss of his fave game Sokoban |
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| 01:31:58 | LinusN | tracktheripper: i just can't repeat your problem |
| 01:32:18 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 01:32:34 | LinusN | are you really sure that the levels.txt file is intact? |
| 01:32:38 | tracktheripper | u are prob with-holding something I should know about :-P |
| 01:32:39 | tracktheripper | yes |
| 01:32:44 | tracktheripper | its the .txt file Adimas sent me |
| 01:32:59 | LinusN | and you did verify it on the jb itself? |
| 01:33:13 | tracktheripper | yes |
| 01:33:17 | LinusN | hmmm |
| 01:33:32 | LinusN | which build are you running? |
| 01:33:58 | tracktheripper | the latest bleeding edge |
| 01:34:13 | LinusN | 20030624? |
| 01:34:21 | tracktheripper | i think so |
| 01:35:28 | LinusN | wooooo, just saw a bug! |
| 01:35:35 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 01:35:40 | * | tracktheripper Shock! |
| 01:36:10 | LinusN | false alarm |
| 01:36:24 | tracktheripper | grrrrrrrrr |
| 01:37:58 | LinusN | i'm running the 20030624 build now |
| 01:38:03 | LinusN | works like a charm |
| 01:38:17 | tracktheripper | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 01:38:19 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 01:38:35 | LinusN | how many bytes is your ajbrec.ajz? |
| 01:38:43 | tracktheripper | 170 (i think) |
| 01:38:57 | LinusN | 170 bytes? i think not |
| 01:39:23 | LinusN | i want the exact number of bytes |
| 01:39:25 | tracktheripper | ok link me to this magical ajbrec.ajz then :-) |
| 01:40:08 | tracktheripper | im sure the file is 171Kb |
| 01:40:15 | LinusN | i want the exact number of bytes |
| 01:40:39 | tracktheripper | ive just given u the figure! |
| 01:40:41 | tracktheripper | 171KB! |
| 01:40:44 | nu | LinusN when you look for the first valid frame, do you look for just the first two bytes ? |
| 01:40:51 | LinusN | i want the exact number of bytes |
| 01:40:58 | LinusN | not kbytes |
| 01:41:08 | nu | ie the next 2 bytes that match those in the first frame's header |
| 01:41:10 | nu | say FF FB |
| 01:41:12 | LinusN | nu: no, 4 bytes |
| 01:41:16 | nu | hm |
| 01:41:20 | tracktheripper | well its prob 171000 bytes |
| 01:41:22 | nu | what check do you perform on the other two ? |
| 01:41:34 | LinusN | tracktheripper: you're not helping me here |
| 01:42:27 | LinusN | nu: i check that the frame header is valid, i.e no "forbidden" caombinations |
| 01:42:30 | tracktheripper | all i know when I downloaded the file it showed 171Kb |
| 01:42:54 | nu | i see |
| 01:42:59 | LinusN | tracktheripper: use file explorer |
| 01:43:12 | LinusN | or DIR |
| 01:43:48 | LinusN | tracktheripper: ordinary recorder, right? |
| 01:44:06 | tracktheripper | 175,054 bytes |
| 01:44:09 | tracktheripper | yes a recorder 10 |
| 01:44:24 | LinusN | install this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily/recorder/archos20030624.ajz |
| 01:44:58 | tracktheripper | hang on |
| 01:47:41 | tracktheripper | nope, no joy |
| 01:48:00 | LinusN | ok, how many bytes is the file on the recorder? |
| 01:48:29 | tracktheripper | 176,128 bytes |
| 01:49:49 | LinusN | are you sure? |
| 01:50:46 | LinusN | it should be 175054 |
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| 02:34:22 | Stevie-O | meh |
| 02:34:28 | Stevie-O | anyone here experienced with squid? |
| 02:35:48 | LinusN | not me |
| 02:42:57 | hardeep | the sokoban problem tracktheripper is encountering is more than likely due to the fact that the level loading code doesn't handle dos-style crlf in the levels.txt file |
| 02:43:33 | hardeep | i believe adiamas was looking at fixing it |
| 02:44:00 | | Nick BoD[dvd] is now known as BoD[}}] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) |
| 02:44:06 | | Nick BoD[}}] is now known as BoD[] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) |
| 02:44:12 | hardeep | doh, nm... should read my mail |
| 02:44:51 | LinusN | hardeep: :-) |
| 02:45:14 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@ACC283E5.ipt.aol.com) |
| 02:45:27 | midknight2k3 | hello |
| 02:52:22 | LinusN | hi |
| 02:53:45 | midknight2k3 | oh hey linus |
| 02:53:56 | midknight2k3 | not much going on with rockbox at the moment eh? |
| 02:54:11 | midknight2k3 | either you're busy coding something big or you're taking a break |
| 02:54:52 | LinusN | well, my personal situation hasn't changed much (sick wife etc) |
| 02:55:06 | midknight2k3 | oh sorry i didnt hear about that |
| 02:55:33 | LinusN | the daily builds and cvs activity pages are wrong |
| 02:55:40 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 02:55:44 | LinusN | because of the sourceforge cvs problems |
| 02:55:52 | midknight2k3 | it's been saying no changes for like two weeks lol |
| 02:56:01 | midknight2k3 | so stuffs been going on? |
| 03:00 |
| 03:06:47 | LinusN | i have fixed some disk full errors |
| 03:07:01 | LinusN | the infamous "res fls: -114" bug |
| 03:07:05 | midknight2k3 | cool |
| 03:07:19 | LinusN | and i am working on new sound settings |
| 03:07:23 | midknight2k3 | that had to do with the disk being full? |
| 03:07:35 | midknight2k3 | the -114 bug |
| 03:07:41 | LinusN | that had to do with rockbox thinking that the disk is full |
| 03:07:49 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 03:07:54 | midknight2k3 | and new sound settings |
| 03:07:56 | midknight2k3 | sounds neat |
| 03:08:00 | LinusN | combined with two other bugs that screwed things up even more |
| 03:08:03 | midknight2k3 | new options or like a menu revamp? |
| 03:08:09 | LinusN | new options |
| 03:08:13 | midknight2k3 | it must be hard being a coder |
| 03:08:16 | LinusN | full megabass control |
| 03:08:17 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 03:08:32 | LinusN | and also clip prevention |
| 03:08:56 | midknight2k3 | wouldn't that be a sort of variation of the Auto-Volume system? |
| 03:09:20 | LinusN | it makes sure that the bass/treble/loudness/volume settings don't introduce clipping |
| 03:09:29 | LinusN | like we do on the player models |
| 03:09:40 | midknight2k3 | hmmm |
| 03:10:04 | midknight2k3 | so it looks at the settings to make sure they, when put together, will not produce clipping? |
| 03:10:13 | LinusN | yes |
| 03:10:19 | midknight2k3 | you already have it on players? |
| 03:10:37 | LinusN | so it lowers the volume when raising the loudness |
| 03:10:52 | LinusN | yes, the players have had it since 1.4 |
| 03:10:56 | midknight2k3 | neat |
| 03:10:57 | LinusN | i think |
| 03:11:08 | midknight2k3 | i remember a few days ago i had a stroke of brialliance |
| 03:11:12 | LinusN | it means that the max volume will be lowe |
| 03:11:14 | midknight2k3 | a perfect idea for rockbox |
| 03:11:17 | midknight2k3 | but now i cant remmeber it |
| 03:11:20 | midknight2k3 | :\ |
| 03:11:23 | LinusN | :-) |
| 03:11:45 | midknight2k3 | IT was something i couldnt believe no one thought of before lol and i forgot it |
| 03:12:04 | LinusN | midknight2k3: which ROM version do you have? |
| 03:12:17 | midknight2k3 | 1.28? |
| 03:12:27 | midknight2k3 | ooohoohh |
| 03:12:28 | midknight2k3 | wai |
| 03:12:31 | midknight2k3 | i have fm recorder |
| 03:12:34 | midknight2k3 | it's 1.30j |
| 03:12:52 | LinusN | ok, which contrast level is best for you? |
| 03:13:04 | LinusN | 32? |
| 03:13:09 | midknight2k3 | I believe 52 is perfect |
| 03:13:11 | midknight2k3 | no lol |
| 03:13:19 | midknight2k3 | fm reocrder is different from regular recorder |
| 03:13:29 | midknight2k3 | recorder i think was 32 or so and fm recorder it's 52 |
| 03:13:55 | LinusN | my fm recorder is perfect at 32 |
| 03:14:02 | midknight2k3 | are you going to make the default contrast "platform-specific"? |
| 03:14:04 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 03:14:05 | LinusN | yes |
| 03:14:08 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
| 03:14:20 | Stevie-O | I run my FM at about 45 |
| 03:14:24 | midknight2k3 | odd |
| 03:14:27 | midknight2k3 | me at 52 |
| 03:14:29 | LinusN | Stevie-O: hw info? |
| 03:14:42 | midknight2k3 | i dont have mine handy i dont think |
| 03:14:47 | LinusN | midknight2k3: can you give me the hw info as well? |
| 03:15:05 | midknight2k3 | i dont have it |
| 03:15:16 | midknight2k3 | my rioriot's contrast level is 4 though if that helps |
| 03:15:22 | LinusN | :-) |
| 03:15:23 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 03:15:29 | midknight2k3 | beat me to it |
| 03:15:34 | midknight2k3 | 5 looks ok too |
| 03:15:45 | midknight2k3 | scuse me |
| 03:15:49 | midknight2k3 | it is at 5 right now |
| 03:16:11 | midknight2k3 | i can give you HW info next time i see you though |
| 03:16:25 | LinusN | Stevie-O: how about you? |
| 03:16:44 | Stevie-O | hw info on what? |
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| 03:16:51 | midknight2k3 | fm recorder |
| 03:16:56 | LinusN | main menu->debug->view hw info |
| 03:16:57 | Stevie-O | I don't have my archos here atm |
| 03:17:04 | midknight2k3 | I can relate |
| 03:17:08 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 03:17:29 | midknight2k3 | i wish i had mega bass control on this Riot |
| 03:17:39 | midknight2k3 | It's partly annoyin |
| 03:17:41 | midknight2k3 | g |
| 03:17:45 | LinusN | i wonder how archos does it |
| 03:17:58 | midknight2k3 | rio people just dont fell like doing it lol |
| 03:18:05 | midknight2k3 | would you believe |
| 03:18:18 | midknight2k3 | they have 5 options on the main menu and one of them's equalizer |
| 03:18:26 | Jet8810 | hey |
| 03:18:28 | midknight2k3 | under that all you can do is bass / treble |
| 03:18:33 | midknight2k3 | oh hey jet |
| 03:18:39 | midknight2k3 | i didnt see you come in there |
| 03:18:59 | Jet8810 | haha |
| 03:19:22 | midknight2k3 | Okay the jig is up |
| 03:20:36 | LinusN | Stevie-O: have you seen anything that sheds some light on the contrast issue? |
| 03:20:50 | * | Stevie-O doesn't know what contrast issue you're referring to |
| 03:20:50 | midknight2k3 | I do find it odd |
| 03:21:09 | midknight2k3 | that it's more comfortable with different levels on the same model fm reocrders |
| 03:21:26 | midknight2k3 | linus likes 32 you like 45 and i like 52 - we all have fm recorders |
| 03:21:44 | midknight2k3 | I just got mine maybe linus got an early model or something |
| 03:22:11 | midknight2k3 | i'm sure 32 was what i used on my regular recorder |
| 03:24:08 | Stevie-O | keep in mind that midknight2k3 drives me nuts, and thus I have him on ignore :P |
| 03:24:31 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 03:24:32 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:24:37 | midknight2k3 | you cant see me type? |
| 03:24:59 | midknight2k3 | what did i do to you? I only ever exploited your HELO bug |
| 03:25:03 | midknight2k3 | :)) |
| 03:25:06 | midknight2k3 | that was fun |
| 03:25:15 | BoD[] | the helo bug |
| 03:25:19 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 03:25:22 | BoD[] | helo |
| 03:25:22 | Stevie-O | 250 Stevie-O |
| 03:25:25 | midknight2k3 | AHAHAHAHA |
| 03:25:29 | BoD[] | :)) |
| 03:25:36 | midknight2k3 | say it twice then say something else and say it again |
| 03:25:37 | midknight2k3 | like this |
| 03:25:39 | midknight2k3 | helo |
| 03:25:40 | midknight2k3 | helo |
| 03:25:41 | midknight2k3 | stupid |
| 03:25:42 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
| 03:25:42 | midknight2k3 | helo |
| 03:25:48 | midknight2k3 | stupid = whatever you want to say |
| 03:25:50 | midknight2k3 | try it |
| 03:25:58 | BoD[] | stupid |
| 03:26:02 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 03:26:04 | midknight2k3 | me? |
| 03:26:05 | BoD[] | ? |
| 03:26:12 | midknight2k3 | ok wait |
| 03:26:17 | BoD[] | ? ? |
| 03:26:24 | midknight2k3 | say the following in order |
| 03:26:25 | midknight2k3 | Helo |
| 03:26:26 | midknight2k3 | Helo |
| 03:26:28 | midknight2k3 | Stupid |
| 03:26:29 | midknight2k3 | Helo |
| 03:26:36 | midknight2k3 | stupid can be whatever you want |
| 03:26:43 | LinusN | midknight2k3: you're trying to be kicked? |
| 03:26:44 | BoD[] | what is it supposed to do ? |
| 03:26:49 | midknight2k3 | it can be anything except "helo" |
| 03:26:57 | midknight2k3 | it produces a fun result |
| 03:27:03 | midknight2k3 | sorry linus |
| 03:27:05 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:27:15 | LinusN | what is supposed to happen? |
| 03:27:17 | BoD[] | well i won't try it ;) you can tell me the result |
| 03:27:21 | midknight2k3 | ymmm |
| 03:27:27 | midknight2k3 | i forgot. |
| 03:27:38 | midknight2k3 | hever mind |
| 03:27:39 | BoD[] | arffff |
| 03:27:41 | midknight2k3 | it wont worg |
| 03:27:49 | midknight2k3 | LOGBOT is no longer an admin guy |
| 03:28:05 | BoD[] | i think he never was a guy ;) |
| 03:28:30 | Mode | "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 03:28:33 | midknight2k3 | normally it would make stevie say his 250 stevie-o thing three times and hed get kicked for repeating but you'd only said it twice before syaing something else..... get it? |
| 03:28:40 | midknight2k3 | linus is an O |
| 03:28:50 | Mode | "#rockbox +o logbot " by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 03:28:51 | DBUG | Q-Sent KICK midknight2k3 to server |
| 03:28:51 | Kick | (#rockbox midknight2k3 :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
| 03:28:59 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@ACC283E5.ipt.aol.com) |
| 03:28:59 | LinusN | :-) |
| 03:29:02 | midknight2k3 | WAT? |
| 03:29:04 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:29:06 | midknight2k3 | why |
| 03:29:08 | midknight2k3 | i didnt flood |
| 03:29:11 | midknight2k3 | i talk fast |
| 03:29:18 | midknight2k3 | would you rather it all in one message? |
| 03:29:23 | LinusN | midknight2k3: it remebered your HELO flood earlier |
| 03:29:28 | midknight2k3 | oops |
| 03:29:42 | LinusN | try your helo trick now |
| 03:29:50 | midknight2k3 | helo |
| 03:29:54 | midknight2k3 | stevie o banned me |
| 03:29:57 | midknight2k3 | i cant do it |
| 03:30:01 | midknight2k3 | you can though |
| 03:30:03 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 03:30:08 | Stevie-O | He got me kicked with a rapid succession of "HELO"s |
| 03:30:11 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 03:30:16 | midknight2k3 | hehehe sorry |
| 03:30:35 | midknight2k3 | what is it stevie? |
| 03:30:38 | midknight2k3 | why? |
| 03:30:55 | BoD[] | he can't see you you know that |
| 03:31:05 | BoD[] | don't try to talk to him :) |
| 03:31:11 | midknight2k3 | tell him to unblock me for a second! |
| 03:31:21 | BoD[] | i don't think so :) |
| 03:31:33 | midknight2k3 | to him you look like you're talking to youreself then? |
| 03:31:34 | BoD[] | but there are other ways |
| 03:31:42 | BoD[] | yep |
| 03:31:45 | Stevie-O | heh |
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| 03:32:03 | midknight2k3 | can he see that |
| 03:32:08 | BoD[] | see what |
| 03:32:17 | midknight2k3 | did you stevie? |
| 03:32:36 | BoD[] | ?? why would he* |
| 03:32:47 | midknight2k3 | i mesaged hum |
| 03:32:55 | midknight2k3 | i mesSaged hIm |
| 03:33:23 | midknight2k3 | did you all see my rockbox review? |
| 03:33:29 | BoD[] | i saw it |
| 03:33:41 | midknight2k3 | how about my rio riot one? |
| 03:33:48 | midknight2k3 | it's very informative |
| 03:33:54 | BoD[] | didn't see it |
| 03:34:02 | midknight2k3 | http://www.epinions.com/content_92576321156 |
| 03:34:08 | BoD[] | but i have no plan to buy a rio |
| 03:34:20 | midknight2k3 | its inFORmaTiVE |
| 03:34:32 | BoD[] | but i have no plan to buy a rio even after reading informative reviews |
| 03:34:40 | midknight2k3 | but−−-! |
| 03:34:45 | BoD[] | :_) |
| 03:34:52 | midknight2k3 | hahahaha |
| 03:34:56 | midknight2k3 | :_) |
| 03:35:01 | midknight2k3 | thats it |
| 03:35:05 | BoD[] | you are fun |
| 03:35:08 | BoD[] | ny |
| 03:35:11 | midknight2k3 | im lowering my rio riot rating from 5/5 to like 3/5 |
| 03:35:31 | Stevie-O | I HATE IDIOTS |
| 03:35:35 | Stevie-O | and the world is full of idiots |
| 03:35:47 | midknight2k3 | I'm sorry Stevie-O |
| 03:35:56 | BoD[] | don't hate them, fear them :) |
| 03:35:58 | midknight2k3 | I hope next lifetime.... |
| 03:36:10 | Stevie-O | no |
| 03:36:11 | Stevie-O | I hate them |
| 03:36:15 | Stevie-O | I want ONE SIMPLE THING |
| 03:36:16 | midknight2k3 | I just hope that..... sniff sniff.... I can live... up to expec..tations!!! |
| 03:36:22 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 03:36:26 | Stevie-O | I want Squid to log the damn hostnames instead of the IP addresses |
| 03:36:35 | midknight2k3 | yes. |
| 03:36:44 | BoD[] | why do you want that |
| 03:37:05 | midknight2k3 | you know what my archos review earned $2.40 in it's first month running |
| 03:37:23 | BoD[] | mid : a review can earn money ??? |
| 03:37:28 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 03:37:35 | midknight2k3 | up to infinity amounts! |
| 03:37:44 | midknight2k3 | would you believe it!!! |
| 03:37:45 | BoD[] | that's new :) |
| 03:37:48 | midknight2k3 | god i dont get it |
| 03:38:05 | midknight2k3 | you were all telling me how i sounded like an advertiser when i convinced you to keep your archoses remmeber? |
| 03:38:12 | BoD[] | of course |
| 03:38:15 | midknight2k3 | haha |
| 03:38:21 | midknight2k3 | comments on my archos review: http://www.epinions.com/content_94606167684/show_~allcom |
| 03:38:38 | midknight2k3 | i don't get it |
| 03:38:43 | BoD[] | héhéhé |
| 03:38:46 | BoD[] | well of course !!! |
| 03:38:48 | midknight2k3 | *thinks* |
| 03:38:54 | BoD[] | you lack objectivity |
| 03:38:58 | midknight2k3 | They all think it's a gimmick |
| 03:39:07 | midknight2k3 | I do NOT work for archos! |
| 03:39:28 | BoD[] | i think you really are archos' CEO |
| 03:39:43 | midknight2k3 | I called the screen on the archos "average"! |
| 03:39:51 | BoD[] | :)))) |
| 03:39:55 | midknight2k3 | "he Archos Jukebox Recorder 20 has an average navigation system. " |
| 03:40:02 | BoD[] | wow |
| 03:40:12 | midknight2k3 | "the USB cable and the Power Cord are just normal items, nothing special, and nothing defective. " |
| 03:40:26 | midknight2k3 | "It has nothing adjustable except Contrast, Backlight Time and Power Off Time." |
| 03:40:40 | BoD[] | yeah yeah yeah |
| 03:40:54 | midknight2k3 | but whne i got into rockbox... |
| 03:41:02 | midknight2k3 | well i typed like 5 pages before i realized it |
| 03:41:15 | midknight2k3 | I need to make a new review |
| 03:41:20 | midknight2k3 | what to make it on? |
| 03:41:28 | midknight2k3 | I did it on everything good |
| 03:41:30 | midknight2k3 | mostly |
| 03:41:52 | midknight2k3 | I may have to stoop to reviewing my keyboard :\ |
| 03:41:52 | Stevie-O | <BoD[]> why do you want that |
| 03:41:59 | LinusN | time to sleep |
| 03:42:01 | LinusN | nite all |
| 03:42:03 | Stevie-O | because I don't want to freaking see http://1.2.3.4/blah/blah/blah in the logs |
| 03:42:03 | midknight2k3 | bye linus! |
| 03:42:08 | Stevie-O | that's useless |
| 03:42:10 | | Part LinusN |
| 03:42:12 | BoD[] | bte linus |
| 03:42:15 | midknight2k3 | ahha |
| 03:42:17 | midknight2k3 | too late |
| 03:42:27 | midknight2k3 | linus thinks you're a real jerk now |
| 03:42:29 | BoD[] | stevie : why not it's not that bad |
| 03:42:31 | midknight2k3 | juts kidding |
| 03:42:35 | BoD[] | mid ;) |
| 03:42:45 | midknight2k3 | :() |
| 03:43:38 | | Part nu |
| 03:45:34 | Stevie-O | ... it is worthless |
| 03:45:37 | Stevie-O | I need the damn HOSTNAME |
| 03:48:28 | midknight2k3 | We feel your paiun |
| 03:49:03 | BoD[] | does |
| 03:49:05 | BoD[] | log_fqdn on |
| 03:49:10 | BoD[] | work ? |
| 03:52:22 | midknight2k3 | gee |
| 03:52:42 | midknight2k3 | I think maybe it's possible |
| 03:52:56 | BoD[] | what |
| 03:53:03 | midknight2k3 | i dont know |
| 03:53:15 | midknight2k3 | Log fdnqmts |
| 03:53:18 | midknight2k3 | or whatever |
| 03:53:28 | midknight2k3 | logon fmdqmdnq |
| 03:53:33 | midknight2k3 | fqdn |
| 03:55:25 | BoD[] | it means full qualified domain name |
| 03:55:42 | BoD[] | == www.stuff.com instead of numbers |
| 03:55:43 | midknight2k3 | yes i supposed it did |
| 03:58:47 | Stevie-O | nope |
| 03:58:57 | midknight2k3 | i guess not then |
| 03:59:01 | Stevie-O | that logs the *client* hostname |
| 03:59:07 | Stevie-O | like 192.168.2.3 |
| 03:59:33 | BoD[] | you want to log the clent's request ? |
| 03:59:42 | Stevie-O | I want to find out the real request |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:14 | BoD[] | maybe it's not possible :) |
| 04:00:36 | Stevie-O | ... now *that*'s braindead |
| 04:01:06 | BoD[] | i'm sure you can ask them in the mailing list |
| 04:01:11 | BoD[] | to be sure |
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| 04:08:24 | midknight2k3 | yres |
| 04:09:22 | midknight2k3 | I-Will-Be-Back-In-A-Minute-Or-Fifty |
| 04:20:18 | Stevie-O | i think i healed it |
| 04:20:43 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 04:28:18 | BoD[] | i have to sleep |
| 04:28:23 | midknight2k3 | bye |
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| 04:52:36 | earHurts | How are you gentlemen !! |
| 04:53:01 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 04:53:12 | midknight2k3 | Us Gentlenmenn are finne |
| 04:53:20 | midknight2k3 | is your key fixed? |
| 04:53:30 | earHurts | yeah, replaced |
| 04:53:41 | midknight2k3 | YES! |
| 04:53:46 | earHurts | nnnnno pronblems |
| 04:53:47 | midknight2k3 | i'll miss it though |
| 04:53:53 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 04:54:09 | earHurts | it did uh distinguish me |
| 04:54:16 | midknight2k3 | yeah lol |
| 04:54:31 | midknight2k3 | dinstingusinsh |
| 04:54:43 | earHurts | know anything about linnnux disk tools? |
| 04:55:11 | midknight2k3 | nnnno |
| 04:55:15 | midknight2k3 | sorrrrrry |
| 04:55:16 | midknight2k3 | i mean |
| 04:55:19 | midknight2k3 | sorrrnnnnnyy |
| 04:55:27 | earHurts | yeah, yeah |
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| 04:55:42 | midknight2k3 | YEAHHN |
| 04:55:49 | earHurts | i installed 60gb hdd into my archos |
| 04:55:59 | midknight2k3 | does it work? |
| 04:56:27 | earHurts | yeah |
| 04:56:43 | midknight2k3 | yaya |
| 04:57:00 | earHurts | windows 2k wom't format >32GB however |
| 04:57:21 | earHurts | so Stevie directed me to mkdosfs |
| 04:57:39 | midknight2k3 | mkdosfs |
| 04:57:42 | midknight2k3 | i get it |
| 04:57:43 | earHurts | but windows can't chkdsk it |
| 04:57:48 | midknight2k3 | makedosfilesystem |
| 04:57:53 | earHurts | yeah |
| 04:58:00 | midknight2k3 | yes! |
| 04:58:18 | midknight2k3 | and to think im a lowly archos - rockbox user an you're a programmer |
| 04:58:19 | earHurts | so I'm reluctant to format my pc's hdd with it |
| 04:58:33 | earHurts | well, I'm no linuxer |
| 04:58:37 | midknight2k3 | i can understand your formatting program's name! |
| 04:58:39 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 04:58:47 | earHurts | coll |
| 04:58:49 | earHurts | cool |
| 04:59:23 | midknight2k3 | yehehe yahaha oooh |
| 04:59:31 | earHurts | but it'll be a pain to sync two diffrent pc drives to one archos drive |
| 04:59:36 | midknight2k3 | boooo |
| 04:59:48 | earHurts | indeed, that's not synching, is it |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:32 | midknight2k3 | i dont think so |
| 05:02:19 | earHurts | thus my dilemma |
| 05:03:10 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 05:03:23 | midknight2k3 | you want both of them combined on archos hd? |
| 05:08:55 | earHurts | yeah |
| 05:09:08 | earHurts | one archos, one mirror on the pc |
| 05:10:37 | midknight2k3 | mm hmm |
| 05:16:10 | earHurts | and one ring to rule them all |
| 05:17:46 | Stevie-O | one thing to play them |
| 05:17:50 | Stevie-O | one thing to copy them |
| 05:18:18 | Stevie-O | hm |
| 05:19:30 | earHurts | we plays them on our pc too, we do, my preciousssss |
| 05:20:05 | earHurts | thanks agin for mkdosfs |
| 05:20:13 | earHurts | how's the emu? |
| 05:20:34 | Stevie-O | studying usb |
| 05:21:40 | earHurts | what's done? |
| 05:22:04 | Stevie-O | jack scheet |
| 05:22:27 | earHurts | no, globally: sh1, what else? |
| 05:22:45 | Stevie-O | hm |
| 05:22:55 | Stevie-O | the instruction set is |
| 05:23:12 | Stevie-O | timer 0 is |
| 05:23:28 | earHurts | timer 0 is hardware? |
| 05:24:03 | Stevie-O | timer 0 is technically part of the sh-1 |
| 05:24:35 | Stevie-O | very few things are really complete |
| 05:25:11 | earHurts | what's your wild ass guess when it'll be done? |
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| 05:26:35 | Stevie-O | Real programs are never finished ;) |
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| 05:26:56 | Stevie-O | I'm working on USB emulation atm |
| 05:27:06 | earHurts | k |
| 05:27:08 | Scottie924 | hey all |
| 05:27:33 | earHurts | hey |
| 05:27:44 | Scottie924 | do you know if there is any plan for rock box to make firmware for the upcoming AV 320? |
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| 05:28:32 | earHurts | the rockbox crew have emphatically said they will NOT |
| 05:28:50 | Scottie924 | ok |
| 05:28:51 | earHurts | it's very different from the jukebox |
| 05:29:00 | MT | it may be the same shape, but its vastly different inside |
| 05:29:11 | Scottie924 | I guess that is true, with the color screen and all that stuff |
| 05:29:16 | earHurts | however another group is trying to make mm software |
| 05:29:30 | Scottie924 | mm software? |
| 05:29:50 | earHurts | whether the archos withe the small color display |
| 05:31:01 | earHurts | mm is the first archos to play video |
| 05:31:13 | Scottie924 | do any of you know where I can find out how to change the setting on Rockbox for the Jukebox multimedia 20 gig, the setting for more than 400 files in a dir? |
| 05:31:53 | earHurts | multimedia or recorder? |
| 05:32:18 | Scottie924 | recorder |
| 05:33:06 | earHurts | menu-general-something |
| 05:33:12 | earHurts | system? |
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| 05:35:54 | Scottie924 | its not there |
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| 06:46:17 | earHurts | Hoe are you gentlemen !! |
| 06:56:15 | thu | It is you !! |
| 06:56:28 | thu | actually I just found a piece of good engrish on the samsung canada site |
| 06:56:37 | thu | http://www.sgnx.net/~thu/engrish1.jpg |
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| 07:04:03 | earHurts | i gotta go sleep |
| 07:04:06 | earHurts | night |
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| 07:16:13 | Stevie-O | phjear |
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| 08:54:26 | OliverKlozoff | sup dan |
| 08:54:35 | Bagder | morning |
| 08:55:21 | thu | mornin |
| 08:56:14 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 08:56:14 | * | OliverKlozoff flexes |
| 08:56:20 | OliverKlozoff | we may be gettin' cable soon! |
| 08:56:32 | OliverKlozoff | finally, at long last, off of this dreaded dialup... |
| 08:58:05 | OliverKlozoff | okay |
| 08:58:09 | OliverKlozoff | 2:55am |
| 08:58:16 | OliverKlozoff | meh |
| 08:58:21 | * | OliverKlozoff tries some things first |
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| 09:49:08 | adi|home | Bagder... |
| 09:49:13 | Bagder | yes? |
| 09:49:16 | adi|home | im adding commenting for the delete action |
| 09:49:16 | dwihno | \o/ yay \o/ |
| 09:49:22 | adi|home | namely.. what button does what.. |
| 09:49:31 | adi|home | for the recorder, we have extra lines... |
| 09:49:34 | adi|home | what should i do for the player? |
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| 09:50:04 | LinusN | tracktheripper: did you try my fix? |
| 09:50:04 | Bagder | hi linus |
| 09:50:10 | LinusN | hi Bagder |
| 09:50:18 | dwihno | Bagder: Guru of code, I seek your guidance... for (k=0; k<16; k++) printf("%.2X", entries[sys][j].md5); For some reason, this produces a loooooong string (which contains faulty stuff, even if the data is ok)... Any ideas? |
| 09:50:39 | LinusN | dwihno: you forgot the life feed |
| 09:50:43 | LinusN | line feed |
| 09:50:46 | LinusN | \n |
| 09:50:58 | LinusN | printf("%.2X\n" |
| 09:51:15 | dwihno | well, I add a line feed later on |
| 09:51:39 | LinusN | you might want %02X |
| 09:51:49 | LinusN | or rather %02x |
| 09:52:10 | Bagder | is md5 really a numeric? |
| 09:52:27 | dwihno | well, it's an array (unsigned char) |
| 09:52:47 | dwihno | :O |
| 09:52:48 | Bagder | but its 8 bytes, isn't it? |
| 09:52:52 | dwihno | I shot my foot |
| 09:53:18 | Bagder | you show the address if the first byte |
| 09:53:23 | dwihno | heh |
| 09:53:27 | dwihno | I shot my foot :) |
| 09:53:32 | dwihno | Damn I suck today :) |
| 09:53:53 | Bagder | adi|home: I really don't know, players are so tricky I get a headache at times ;-/ |
| 09:54:02 | adi|home | heheh |
| 09:54:03 | adi|home | k... |
| 09:54:14 | adi|home | ill just leave the player be till someone bitches ;) |
| 09:56:03 | LinusN | Bagder: what to do with the daily build scripts? |
| 09:56:22 | Bagder | I'll talk to Björn |
| 09:57:15 | adi|home | okay.. now just house keeping... |
| 09:57:18 | LinusN | he is pretty absent these days |
| 09:57:19 | Hes | Hm, I would guess a full-range scan in the FM tuner wouldn't be _that_ useful, the FM filter is probably quite wide, bad reception for narrowband FM channels 8-) |
| 09:57:30 | adi|home | we have LANG_RESUME_CONFIRM_RECORDER in english.lang |
| 09:57:47 | adi|home | and the string it uses is exactly the same one i want to use for delete confirmation... |
| 09:57:52 | LinusN | Hes: still, we should allow it |
| 09:58:00 | Hes | but maybe you can receive VHF TV audio below the FM broadcast band. |
| 09:58:06 | Hes | LinusN: Yes, naturally. |
| 09:58:08 | dwihno | BTW... Has there been a time WITHOUT the red led death? |
| 09:58:11 | adi|home | so.. should i a) create LAN_DELETE_CONFIRM_RECORDER |
| 09:58:16 | LinusN | dwihno: yes |
| 09:58:33 | adi|home | or b) create a new item called LANG_CONFIRM_WITH_PLAY |
| 09:58:40 | dwihno | LinusN: About when did the bug appear? |
| 09:58:43 | adi|home | and have whats appropriate point to it? |
| 09:59:06 | LinusN | dwihno: that's what zagor wanted to find out with his "bug hunt" approach |
| 09:59:17 | LinusN | in the mailing list |
| 09:59:47 | LinusN | adi|home: i like LANG_CONFIRM_WITH_PLAY |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:17 | LinusN | but only if it works in other languages as well |
| 10:00:59 | adi|home | nods |
| 10:01:03 | adi|home | thats the next question.. |
| 10:01:07 | dwihno | :-/ red led death is evil stuff |
| 10:01:14 | adi|home | should i make it usable now.. and wait for ppl to port? |
| 10:01:33 | adi|home | ie.. check for both... |
| 10:01:50 | adi|home | actually.. can't.. its a string... |
| 10:01:52 | adi|home | hmmm |
| 10:02:10 | adi|home | i _could_ just update all the languages by hand... |
| 10:02:26 | adi|home | thats not to bad an idea.. translation does't change.. only the keyword |
| 10:03:42 | Bagder | the whole point of our language system is that you add the string to the english file and use the ID, and then the other languages "just work" |
| 10:03:56 | adi|home | nods |
| 10:04:20 | adi|home | so then if i want to make this change and clean up the code.. then i need to adapt the language files myself... so they continue to work... |
| 10:04:36 | Bagder | you mean you change the meaning of a string? |
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| 10:05:04 | adi|home | no... |
| 10:05:20 | Bagder | so what "adaption" are you referring to? |
| 10:05:33 | adi|home | right now in all the languages we have LANG_RESUME_CONFIRM_RECORDER |
| 10:05:39 | tracktheripper | yea I did LinusN |
| 10:05:47 | adi|home | which says "PLAY = Yes" |
| 10:05:51 | tracktheripper | and it still doesn't work :-( |
| 10:06:16 | adi|home | i need the exact same string.. but a "RESUME" keyword makes no sense if the string is related to deleting... |
| 10:06:51 | adi|home | so to add LANG_CONFIRM_WITH_PLAY to have "PLAY = Yes" id have to add LANG_CONFIRM_WITH_PLAY to all the languages |
| 10:07:02 | adi|home | or else they won't 'just work' |
| 10:07:10 | Bagder | if you add LANG_CONFIRM_WITH_PLAY |
| 10:07:22 | Bagder | add it to the english file, and use the id, and it will work |
| 10:07:25 | LinusN | tracktheripper: how long is the ajbrec.ajz on the recorder? |
| 10:07:38 | LinusN | and how long is levels.txt on the recorder? |
| 10:07:58 | adi|home | right.. but if i then remove LANG_RESUME_CONFIRM_RECORDER from the rest of the code... the other languages won't display properly... |
| 10:08:01 | LinusN | (long == size in bytes) |
| 10:08:09 | adi|home | or should i just let other ppl correct their own languages? |
| 10:08:14 | tracktheripper | i don't know, my JB is flat |
| 10:08:24 | Bagder | adi|home: they will then use the english version, yes, but that's how the languages always work |
| 10:08:30 | tracktheripper | don;t know where the ac adaptor it |
| 10:08:31 | tracktheripper | is |
| 10:08:34 | adi|home | ahh.. okay.. got ya... |
| 10:08:58 | LinusN | the levels.txt file you sent me, was that taken from the recorder? |
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| 10:09:38 | Bagder | adi|home: and remember to not actually remove the ID from the english file, only blank it if you no longer use it |
| 10:09:44 | adi|home | nods |
| 10:10:24 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 10:10:31 | tracktheripper | it was the one adimas sent me |
| 10:11:06 | LinusN | i mean, did you take it from the recorder, or from the pc when you sent it to me |
| 10:11:29 | tracktheripper | recorder |
| 10:11:42 | lgl | hello, I'm a former archos jbr20 owner and rockbox supporter. I wonder of anyone can recommend (or not recommend) the fm recorder... |
| 10:12:21 | lgl | s/of/if/ |
| 10:12:48 | LinusN | tracktheripper: a read error could give the same error |
| 10:13:02 | adi|home | LANG_CONFIRM_WITH_PLAY_RECORDER and LANG_CANCEL_WITH_ANY_RECORDER are acceptable? |
| 10:13:22 | LinusN | lgl: it is good, it lacks S/PDIF output and remote control |
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| 10:16:07 | lgl | LinusN|away: oh so no digital out? |
| 10:18:03 | LinusN|away | nope |
| 10:18:22 | LinusN|away | didital in works, though |
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| 10:23:36 | lgl | strange decision methinks. |
| 10:24:06 | Bagder | they're french, remember? ;-P |
| 10:24:13 | * | Bagder grins |
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| 10:27:19 | adi|home | now.. let me make sure im not stupid here... |
| 10:27:23 | adi|home | to delete a directory.. |
| 10:27:36 | adi|home | i need delete "." and ".." first.. |
| 10:27:45 | adi|home | then delete the directory name, correct? |
| 10:28:13 | PsycoXul | . is the current directory and .. is the parent directory |
| 10:28:34 | OliverKlozoff | actually |
| 10:28:35 | OliverKlozoff | in fat32 |
| 10:28:46 | OliverKlozoff | the '.' entry really points to the root directory (or it should) |
| 10:30:49 | Bagder | why? |
| 10:31:38 | adi|home | so... then i don't delete . and .. |
| 10:31:48 | adi|home | i thought those were just references to the parent and current dir? |
| 10:31:57 | Bagder | they do |
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| 10:32:47 | Bagder | but they're not actual entries in the dir, are they? |
| 10:33:16 | Bagder | I should shut up, I'm not very fluent in this |
| 10:36:02 | adi|home | heheh okay.. then let me hit you with another question :) |
| 10:36:11 | adi|home | more opinion i think then anything.. |
| 10:36:41 | adi|home | when we 'rename' a file.. if the file name is unchanged (namely, the typed name matches the current name), we respin the disk and rewrite the file name... |
| 10:36:55 | adi|home | does that make sense? or should we do a check, and if the names are the same, don't spin the disk? |
| 10:37:00 | dwihno | Let's get political - NEJ TILL EMU! :) |
| 10:37:14 | lgl | hahaha |
| 10:37:29 | Bagder | adi|home: well, we could do a check sure, it wouldn't hurt much |
| 10:37:46 | adi|home | i just wasn't sure what the proper way to do it was is all... |
| 10:37:56 | adi|home | i mean.. if its a check we should do or not |
| 10:39:23 | adi|home | i may have to bug linus about that stuff.. |
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| 15:26:57 | Stevie[FP] | http://averstak.tripod.com/fatdox/dir.htm |
| 15:27:06 | Stevie[FP] | you do NOT need to delete the '.' and '..' entries |
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| 19:15:32 | elinenbe | goobye everyone... off to Croatia for holiday. See you in 3 weeks. |
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| 19:18:24 | Kuji | linus: the cluster size made no difference the file screwed up after 53mins, which is a little longer than before. |
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| 20:21:57 | adi|ems | anyone awake? |
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| 21:32:42 | tuba_man | morning everyone. Anybody know of any US-based suppliers of the DRAM featured (or compatible) in the 8MB recorder mod? |
| 21:33:11 | quelsaruk | no idea |
| 21:33:44 | tuba_man | hmm...that's kinda frustrating |
| 21:34:18 | tuba_man | thanks anyway |
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| 22:32:36 | TBoy | hoi |
| 22:33:14 | TBoy | I've got a question about the dynamic playlist |
| 22:34:01 | TBoy | what are the advantage of using it |
| 22:34:04 | TBoy | what does it do |
| 22:37:02 | mecraw | creates playlists dynamically |
| 22:39:25 | TBoy | wich mean |
| 22:39:27 | TBoy | s |
| 22:39:45 | TBoy | oh |
| 22:39:55 | TBoy | so every time I turn my player on |
| 22:40:08 | TBoy | it would check to see if new songs are there |
| 22:41:01 | TBoy | but what can I do if I want an album to be played in the right order |
| 22:41:19 | TBoy | apart from renaming the files |
| 22:41:24 | mecraw | no, you can add or insert songs or directories to a playlist |
| 22:41:40 | TBoy | oh ok that gets it to |
| 22:41:42 | TBoy | too |
| 22:41:43 | mecraw | nothing apart from renaming your files |
| 22:42:20 | TBoy | couldn't I make a playlist in that folder an make it load |
| 22:42:38 | mecraw | you could do that |
| 22:43:13 | mecraw | but you'd probably have to add the songs in the right order, if you just add the directory they will be ordered alphabetically |
| 22:43:45 | TBoy | ok |
| 22:43:53 | mecraw | i'm assuming you are talking about hardeep's playlist patch, right? |
| 22:43:58 | TBoy | yes |
| 22:44:31 | TBoy | the best thing would be if we could get rockbox in the flash-rom |
| 22:45:01 | TBoy | then we could possibly use another filesystem wich would save the files in the order you select |
| 22:45:05 | TBoy | right? |
| 22:45:10 | TBoy | that would be possible |
| 22:45:28 | mecraw | i have no idea |
| 22:45:48 | TBoy | oh ok |
| 22:46:00 | TBoy | well I assume that would bepossible |
| 22:46:06 | TBoy | well gotta go |
| 22:47:33 | | Nick LinusN|away is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 22:48:10 | TBoy | linus |
| 22:48:22 | LinusN | yes? |
| 22:48:22 | [IDC]Dragon | Hi linus! |
| 22:48:31 | LinusN | hi |
| 22:48:31 | TBoy | if we could get rockbox in the flash-rom |
| 22:48:38 | [IDC]Dragon | Yeah, working hard on it. |
| 22:48:39 | TBoy | then we could possibly use another filesystem wich would save the files in the order you select |
| 22:48:52 | LinusN | TBoy: why? |
| 22:49:12 | TBoy | I mean if I have an album in a specific folder |
| 22:49:27 | TBoy | and I name them all artist - track.mp3 |
| 22:49:28 | LinusN | i would rather have a playlist browser for that |
| 22:49:39 | TBoy | ok that would also be possible |
| 22:49:44 | TBoy | ok that sounds good |
| 22:49:45 | TBoy | hehe |
| 22:49:58 | TBoy | btw will that be added |
| 22:50:14 | LinusN | if we have a custom filesystem, we wouldn't be able to transfer to/from the PC without writing drivers for windows, linux, mac etc |
| 22:50:15 | TBoy | or is there a patch for it already |
| 22:50:36 | LinusN | no, there is no playlist browser yet |
| 22:50:47 | TBoy | yeah but we could use ext |
| 22:50:56 | TBoy | that supports that doesn't it |
| 22:50:59 | LinusN | then windows users will be out of luck |
| 22:51:07 | TBoy | thats true |
| 22:51:26 | LinusN | fat32 is pretty good for this purpose imho |
| 22:51:46 | TBoy | but are there no ext drivers for windows |
| 22:52:11 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: the ata_spindown must be changed according to your hardware, as the comment says in the stub source code |
| 22:52:20 | TBoy | but i am fine with using fat32 |
| 22:52:47 | [IDC]Dragon | (TBoy, please excuse) But the stub worked before, with rolo |
| 22:52:58 | TBoy | no problemo |
| 22:53:11 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: ok |
| 22:53:15 | TBoy | I'm just hoggin' the channel up |
| 22:53:29 | TBoy | just tryin to get back in here |
| 22:53:33 | [IDC]Dragon | TBoy, never mind |
| 22:53:53 | TBoy | since the mail lost my player for over a month |
| 22:54:05 | [IDC]Dragon | Linus, ATA seems to have a general problem when cold-booted. |
| 22:54:08 | TBoy | well gotta go anyway |
| 22:54:10 | TBoy | cya |
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| 22:54:40 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: how about the data direction of PA9? |
| 22:54:48 | [IDC]Dragon | (oops, did I chase him away with techtalk?) |
| 22:54:53 | LinusN | :-) |
| 22:55:01 | [IDC]Dragon | Lemme check... |
| 22:55:40 | LinusN | and PA10 |
| 22:56:07 | LinusN | they should both be outputs |
| 22:56:17 | [IDC]Dragon | can't find what they're used for |
| 22:56:32 | LinusN | pa9 is ATA reset, pa10 is usb_enable |
| 22:57:13 | [IDC]Dragon | Rockbox is not initializing that? |
| 22:57:28 | LinusN | make sure that you have a call to usb_enable() before ata_init() |
| 22:57:41 | LinusN | usb_enable(false); |
| 22:59:02 | LinusN | it seems like we don't set the data direction of pa9 |
| 22:59:05 | [IDC]Dragon | main.c does usb_init() |
| 22:59:34 | LinusN | good |
| 22:59:44 | LinusN | try setting the data direction of pa9 |
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| 23:00:16 | BoD[] | ji! |
| 23:00:18 | BoD[] | hi |
| 23:00:33 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll try, will take me a few. |
| 23:00:46 | LinusN | take a look at ode_power_enable() as well |
| 23:00:53 | LinusN | ide_power_enable() |
| 23:00:56 | LinusN | in power.c |
| 23:01:03 | LinusN | data dir problem there too |
| 23:01:33 | [IDC]Dragon | There's something about the display as well... |
| 23:01:38 | LinusN | yeah |
| 23:01:45 | LinusN | data dir too? |
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| 23:01:56 | [IDC]Dragon | the general recipe? |
| 23:02:03 | | Nick BoD[manger is now known as BoD[manger|dvd] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) |
| 23:02:29 | LinusN | hmmm, lcd_init() seems to do it right |
| 23:03:23 | LinusN | Stevie[FP] may tell if we forgot something in the lcd init code |
| 23:03:43 | [IDC]Dragon | IDE power is PA5? |
| 23:03:57 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:04:07 | LinusN | on the regular recorder |
| 23:04:38 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, I don't like to be hardware dependent here. |
| 23:05:15 | LinusN | why not? |
| 23:05:18 | LinusN | you have to |
| 23:05:50 | [IDC]Dragon | Well, but then "inteligent" as the rest of the code, not hacking some port inits in. |
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| 23:06:19 | MasterLee | Hello all. |
| 23:06:35 | Stevie[FP] | somebody say my name? |
| 23:06:36 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: only the regular recorder has ide power control |
| 23:06:40 | LinusN | MasterLee: hi |
| 23:06:43 | LinusN | Stevie[FP]: yo! |
| 23:06:49 | Stevie[FP] | j0. |
| 23:07:00 | MasterLee | Is there an AJBM firmware? |
| 23:07:04 | Stevie[FP] | I have succeeded in halfway completing phase 1 of 2 |
| 23:07:06 | LinusN | Stevie[FP]: i want the entire lcd init sequence |
| 23:07:16 | LinusN | Stevie[FP]: which is? |
| 23:07:25 | LinusN | MasterLee: no |
| 23:07:28 | Stevie[FP] | emulating a USB host controller |
| 23:07:33 | Stevie[FP] | under Windows |
| 23:07:37 | MasterLee | LinusN: :( Damnit. |
| 23:07:54 | Stevie[FP] | Windows genuinely believes there is a USB root hub attached to a "Toaster Bus Enumerator" device |
| 23:08:02 | MasterLee | I can't get any movies to play from that damn thing yet. |
| 23:08:08 | Stevie[FP] | (the 'toaster bus enumerator' is a sample bus driver that MS supplies with the DDK) |
| 23:08:21 | LinusN | Stevie[FP]: how come you want to do this? |
| 23:08:30 | Stevie[FP] | because I can? |
| 23:08:36 | LinusN | of course :-) |
| 23:08:47 | Stevie[FP] | or, because it's there! |
| 23:08:57 | Stevie[FP] | if you prefer the Mt Everest style reasoning |
| 23:09:25 | Stevie[FP] | the MS usb hub driver has a bug |
| 23:09:30 | LinusN | Stevie[FP]: how hard is it to port your emulator to linux? |
| 23:09:31 | Stevie[FP] | (shocking) |
| 23:09:47 | LinusN | (the jb emulator) |
| 23:09:51 | Stevie[FP] | meh |
| 23:10:31 | Stevie[FP] | current windows-specific crap would be: memory mapping files (easily rectifiable with an abstraction layer) |
| 23:10:36 | Stevie[FP] | and the display |
| 23:10:46 | Stevie[FP] | I know zilch about drawing in X |
| 23:10:57 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: btw, have you disconnected your boot loader straps from the lcd pins correctly? |
| 23:11:02 | Stevie[FP] | now hold on while I turn on LCD logging |
| 23:12:22 | hardeep | trackname = playlist_peek(i); |
| 23:12:30 | hardeep | doh, mischan |
| 23:14:36 | MasterLee | Stevie[FP]: why not use wxWindows then? |
| 23:15:02 | * | Stevie[FP] notes that his FM's firmware sets the contrast to 49 out of 64 |
| 23:16:13 | LinusN | Stevie[FP]: interesting indeed! |
| 23:17:29 | Stevie[FP] | http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/jbremu/init.log |
| 23:20:27 | LinusN | thanks |
| 23:21:43 | Stevie[FP] | note that the beginning stuff might not include absolutely *every* ocp register, due to how I implemented some of them |
| 23:25:26 | [IDC]Dragon | I've now set PA bits 5,9,10 to outputs in my bootload. |
| 23:25:52 | [IDC]Dragon | Still ATA address detection failure. |
| 23:26:04 | [IDC]Dragon | ata.c, line 730 |
| 23:30:48 | Stevie[FP] | hey Liiiiiiiinus... |
| 23:31:20 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: you might want to check the Bus State Controller settings |
| 23:31:33 | LinusN | Stevie[FP]: yeeeeeeees... |
| 23:31:33 | [IDC]Dragon | What's that? |
| 23:31:52 | * | Stevie[FP] puts together some useful informayshun |
| 23:31:53 | [IDC]Dragon | BTW, PA7 didn't help either... |
| 23:31:58 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: wait states and stuff for the different address regions |
| 23:32:31 | Stevie[FP] | LinusN: what's your value at the hardware mask (0x020000fc)? |
| 23:33:05 | LinusN | 0x0304 |
| 23:33:18 | Stevie[FP] | er |
| 23:33:36 | Stevie[FP] | ... the archos fw only references one byte |
| 23:33:46 | Stevie[FP] | which would make that 0x03 |
| 23:33:49 | LinusN | interesting |
| 23:35:06 | Stevie[FP] | your firmware starts you at contrast level 31 |
| 23:35:13 | * | Stevie[FP] flexes |
| 23:35:24 | Stevie[FP] | feel the power of the EMULATOR! |
| 23:35:44 | [IDC]Dragon | Nice tool, my admiration! |
| 23:35:46 | MasterLee | Stevie[FP]: would it ever be possible to make an AJBM firmware? |
| 23:35:56 | MasterLee | or are you not interested in it? |
| 23:36:02 | Stevie[FP] | ajbm? |
| 23:37:08 | LinusN | MasterLee: that's a huge undertaking |
| 23:37:29 | LinusN | it is a much more complicated device, and the specs are not open |
| 23:37:30 | MasterLee | LinusN: yeah..I figured as much, but wasn't the AJB? |
| 23:37:35 | LinusN | for the chips |
| 23:37:37 | MasterLee | the AJB specs were? |
| 23:37:46 | MasterLee | (for the chips.) |
| 23:37:58 | LinusN | the data sheets are all open for the ajb chips |
| 23:38:05 | [IDC]Dragon | Linus, this bus control stuff looks complex. Maybe I'll do a brute force approach and dump the whole I/O space for both regular rockbox and "cold-booted" rockbox. |
| 23:38:26 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: or talk nicely to Stevie[FP] |
| 23:39:24 | MasterLee | LinusN: Ahh..but not the AJBMs I guess. I wonder why that is. Doesn't seem kosher. |
| 23:39:39 | [IDC]Dragon | BTW, what's the difference between Stivie[O] and Stevie[FP]? |
| 23:40:28 | Stevie[FP] | Stevie-O is myself at home |
| 23:40:53 | [IDC]Dragon | and where is FP? |
| 23:42:22 | LinusN | MasterLee: ask texas instruments |
| 23:42:39 | MasterLee | Heh..Has anyone? |
| 23:42:53 | MasterLee | i.e. written a letter to so and so. |
| 23:42:53 | LinusN | not that i know of |
| 23:42:54 | MasterLee | etc. |
| 23:43:31 | LinusN | MasterLee: none of the rockbox developers own an AJBM |
| 23:43:42 | LinusN | so why would we want to hack it? |
| 23:43:45 | MasterLee | Ahh.. |
| 23:43:46 | MasterLee | :-D |
| 23:43:52 | MasterLee | I see. :) |
| 23:44:00 | MasterLee | NP. |
| 23:44:01 | MasterLee | :) |
| 23:44:40 | Stevie[FP] | did someone want to know how to determine the proper base contrast to use? |
| 23:44:59 | LinusN | i want to |
| 23:45:16 | Stevie[FP] | http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/jbremu/fm_lcd_contrast.log |
| 23:47:17 | Stevie[FP] | you'll note the bug in the display of "mov.b @Rm, Rn" when Rm == Rn |
| 23:49:06 | LinusN | Stevie[FP]: interesting, this contrast setting code |
| 23:49:09 | Stevie[FP] | You may also wish to note that I could have accomplished the same functionality with four instructions |
| 23:49:29 | LinusN | but it must be different for recorders |
| 23:49:43 | Stevie[FP] | instead of 13 or so |
| 23:49:53 | Stevie[FP] | that's entirely possible |
| 23:50:20 | Stevie[FP] | I haven't properly separated out emulation of player/recorder/fm yet |
| 23:50:22 | LinusN | my recorder has hw mask == 0x03 too, and it wants 32 as contrast |
| 23:50:38 | Stevie[FP] | 0x03 will generate the contrast 31 |
| 23:50:54 | Stevie[FP] | if you look, my FM has hw mask 0x05, and wants contrast 49 |
| 23:51:04 | LinusN | ah, didn't notice |
| 23:51:25 | LinusN | this is wonderful |
| 23:51:29 | Stevie[FP] | what is? |
| 23:51:54 | LinusN | so i'll just add a bias to the lcd setting based on the hw mask and voila! |
| 23:52:12 | Stevie[FP] | actually I'd recommend |
| 23:52:15 | Stevie[FP] | that the default bias be like this |
| 23:52:24 | Stevie[FP] | (hw_mask & 2) ? 31 : 49 |
| 23:52:36 | LinusN | yup |
| 23:52:44 | Stevie[FP] | that'd generate about four instructions |
| 23:53:13 | Stevie[FP] | instead of '42 - 18 * ((hw_mask >> 1) & 1) + 7' which is how they must have coded it |
| 23:54:02 | Stevie[FP] | I wonder who produced the compiler they used |
| 23:54:58 | Stevie[FP] | I've seen it generate a dozen instructions (groups of shift lefts + adds + subtracts) in order to avoid calling the multiplication operator |
| 23:55:16 | Stevie[FP] | despite the fact that the latter only takes 3 cycles |
| 23:56:21 | LinusN | pretty lame |
| 23:56:40 | Stevie[FP] | also |
| 23:57:10 | Stevie[FP] | they mostly used 'int' instead of 'unsigned int' |
| 23:57:37 | Stevie[FP] | which is VERY costly in things like the ADC registers |
| 23:58:05 | Stevie[FP] | because while you can do an unsigned shift right in steps of 1, 2, or 8 |
| 23:58:14 | Stevie[FP] | (so >>12 is >>8, >>2, >>2 −− 3 instructions) |
| 23:58:41 | Stevie[FP] | there's only one signed shift right, which shifts a single bit |
| 23:58:54 | Stevie[FP] | so the code is full of calls to code that's like |
| 23:58:55 | Stevie[FP] | shar r4 |
| 23:58:57 | Stevie[FP] | shar r4 |
| 23:58:59 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Stevie[FP] |
| 23:58:59 | Stevie[FP] | shar r4 |
| 23:59:00 | Stevie[FP] | .... |
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