#rockbox 2003-07-23

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#rockbox log for 2003-07-23

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00:43:50	BoD[]	hello lin!
00:43:59	LinusN	hi
00:44:53	BoD[]	how are you
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00:45:13	LinusN	tired as usual :-)
00:45:24	BoD[]	me too :)
00:45:28	LinusN	on vacation right now
00:45:48	LinusN	on an island on the west coast of sweden
00:46:03	BoD[]	oh! is the weather good ?
00:46:04	LinusN	(laptop + gprs mobile phone)
00:46:13	LinusN	sunny and warm
00:46:20	BoD[]	great
00:50:16	TotMach3r	hehe
00:50:17	TotMach3r	bluetooth ?
00:50:27	TotMach3r	or redlight ?
00:50:28	LinusN	irda
00:50:33	TotMach3r	hehe
00:50:39	TotMach3r	me at bed with wlan ;)
00:51:01	LinusN	i have wlan at home
00:51:12	TotMach3r	rox, eh ?
00:51:18	LinusN	indeed
00:51:21	TotMach3r	but gprs in nature rox also ;)
00:51:32	LinusN	yup
00:51:36	BoD[]	gprs costs money !
00:52:58	LinusN	yes it does
00:53:39	TotMach3r	hehe, enjoy nature !
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01:24:54	DBUG	Enqueued KICK Bluechip
01:24:54	Bluechip	any techies in tonight?
01:25:10	DBUG	Enqueued KICK tracktheripper
01:25:10	tracktheripper	hellooooooooo
01:25:36	Bluechip	what do we know so far about this mp3 chip - i hear rumour that it is reprogrammable
01:26:29	BoD[]	i think it is but only licencees of the company that produces it can do it
01:26:47	BoD[]	eg archos
01:27:02	***	Alert Mode level 1
01:27:02	Bluechip	can we dump what is already in there?
01:27:24	BoD[]	i don't know
01:27:25	***	Alert Mode level 2
01:27:25	Bluechip	there was talk of another player with the same chip that did wav
01:27:53		Quit elinenbe (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
01:27:56	***	Alert Mode level 3
01:27:56	Bluechip	if we can get the code, we stand a chance of reversing it? no?
01:27:59	BoD[]	i don't even know how to program the chip
01:28:09	BoD[]	maybe you need specific devices
01:28:19	***	Alert Mode level 4
01:28:19	Bluechip	who is the person with the most knowledge of this
01:29:05	BoD[]	well probably LinusN and the Stenberg brothers :)
01:29:33	***	Alert Mode level 5
01:29:33	Bluechip	ahhh, very busy people
01:29:50	***	Alert Mode level 6
01:29:50	Bluechip	if we can get some code fom it, we should be off to a reasonable start
01:30:36	***	Alert Mode level 7
01:30:36	Bluechip	i believe it is rumoured to be mips based
01:30:54	BoD[]	from what i've read on the mailing list, you need knowledge that is kept "secret" to program it
01:31:35	tracktheripper	there is another way.........
01:31:44	***	Alert Mode level 8
01:31:44	Bluechip	there is ALWAYS another way
01:31:57	tracktheripper	just glue another player to it that can play AAC/WMA/WAV and line-in to the archos........
01:32:08	BoD[]	:))
01:32:15	BoD[]	great idea
01:32:34	tracktheripper	:D
01:33:06	tracktheripper	why not write a "software decoder" as a plug-in?
01:33:07	tracktheripper	:-)
01:33:32	***	Alert Mode level 9
01:33:32	Bluechip	are you serious?
01:33:38	tracktheripper	yes
01:33:53	tracktheripper	after all Winamp and Windows Media Player don't use chips they use software.......
01:34:11	***	Alert Mode level 10
01:34:11	Bluechip	as i know it, you can only send sound out via the mas
01:34:19	tracktheripper	:-)
01:34:30	tracktheripper	"well why not write a 'software tuner'"?
01:34:32	tracktheripper	lmfao!!!
01:36:15	tracktheripper	:-)
01:37:58	tracktheripper	they should do a Realizer for JPEG files
01:37:58	***	Alert Mode level 11
01:37:58	Bluechip	do we have the datasheet?
01:38:08	tracktheripper	"restore the pixels lost by the JPEG compression................."
01:38:50	scott666	you want to view jpgs on the archos screen?
01:40:15	BoD[]	that's actually a good idea
01:40:20	scott666	no
01:40:21	scott666	it isnt
01:40:25	scott666	thats a horrible idea
01:40:45	BoD[]	i was talking about the idea to have a better jpeg algorithm
01:40:53	scott666	ok then
01:40:54	scott666	lol
01:41:45	scott666	i was gonna say...color pictures put onto a 50x50 pixel display in black and green just might not look good
01:42:01	tracktheripper	a green field at night will look okay :D
01:42:08	scott666	lol
01:42:10	***	Alert Mode level 12
01:42:10	Bluechip	lol
01:42:30	tracktheripper	im gonna have shower brb
01:43:01	***	Alert Mode level 13
01:43:01	Bluechip	thank you for the picture
01:43:21	scott666	lol
01:43:29	***	Alert Mode level 14
01:43:29	Bluechip	Don't wash it tooo fast
01:43:39	scott666	just be glad you dont know what he looks like
01:43:46	***	Alert Mode level 15
01:43:46	Bluechip	lol
01:46:10	***	Alert Mode level 16
01:46:10	Bluechip	do we know of any other device which uses the MAS?
01:46:14	tracktheripper	im very handsome as it happens
01:46:25	tracktheripper	yes bluechip a terratec machine that can even timestretchg
01:46:47	***	Alert Mode level 17
01:46:47	Bluechip	tell me more of this terratec - it holds the key
01:47:05	scott666	are we working to get ogg?
01:47:11	***	Alert Mode level 18
01:47:11	Bluechip	NO!
01:47:18	***	Alert Mode level 19
01:47:18	Bluechip	ogg STILL sucks
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01:47:29	***	Alert Mode level 20
01:47:29	Bluechip	you wannit - you write it ;)
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01:47:42	scott666	its open source
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01:48:06	scott666	good luck trying to play wmas legally
01:48:12	***	Alert Mode level 21
01:48:12	Bluechip	that does NOT make it "good"!
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01:48:45	scott666	im not saying thats why its good, im saying that makes it a hell of a lot easier to write
01:48:55	***	Alert Mode level 22
01:48:55	Bluechip	I'll be happy to get the thing playing WAVs - means I can write a proper music composer on the damned thing!
01:49:15	***	Alert Mode level 23
01:49:15	Bluechip	sorry, i ovr-reacted, i just dislike OGG :(
01:49:16	scott666	personally id work to get it to play midis
01:49:28	***	Alert Mode level 24
01:49:28	Bluechip	easy
01:49:31	scott666	yeah
01:49:43	scott666	but midis sound awesome
01:49:51	scott666	like midi versions of other songs
01:49:54	***	Alert Mode level 25
01:49:54	Bluechip	only with a good synth
01:50:00	scott666	its like elevator music, but better
01:50:04	scott666	lol
01:50:12	***	Alert Mode level 26
01:50:12	Bluechip	% of music you hear on a TV is MIDI
01:50:44	***	Alert Mode level 27
01:50:44	Bluechip	every karaoke cd is made from MIDI
01:50:50	***	Alert Mode level 28
01:50:50	Bluechip	(nearly every)
01:50:54	scott666	yeah
01:51:19	***	Alert Mode level 29
01:51:19	Bluechip	please someone tell me about this terratec thingy
01:51:32	scott666	www.google.co
01:51:33	scott666	m
01:51:43	***	Alert Mode level 30
01:51:43	Bluechip	very f helpful scott
01:51:54	***	Alert Mode level 31
01:51:54	Bluechip	im not a bloody moron
01:52:02	scott666	well ive never fuckin heard of it
01:53:14	***	Alert Mode level 32
01:53:14	Bluechip	reading back it was track that mentioned it, and he has gone away to take off all his clothes
01:53:25	scott666	*shudder8
01:53:28	scott666	*
01:53:49	scott666	lol
01:54:27	scott666	even if we knew HOW to reprogram the mas, how would we?
01:54:39	***	Alert Mode level 33
01:54:39	Bluechip	ask me that when I know how
01:54:55	tracktheripper	the mas isnt programmable
01:55:03	tracktheripper	its hardcoded to play MP3 and only Mp3
01:55:23	scott666	but what if we reprogrammed it?
01:55:33	***	Alert Mode level 34
01:55:33	Bluechip	perhaps section 2.3 of dsp_mas3507d_3pd.pdf will help
01:55:44	tracktheripper	how can you program something that is hardcoded?
01:56:02	***	Alert Mode level 35
01:56:02	Bluechip	i can cut and paste from the datasheet if it helps?
01:56:31	***	Alert Mode level 36
01:56:31	Bluechip	track - WHICH terratec player - how do you know - do you have a link - can the f/w be updated - etc?
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01:57:25	tracktheripper	hang on
01:57:35	BoD[]	did you read question 17 of the faq
01:57:49	scott666	Adding new sound effects requires reprogramming the MAS chip, and we can't do that. The MAS chip is programmable, but we have no access to the chip documentation
01:58:26	***	Alert Mode level 37
01:58:26	Bluechip	do you think I should give up then scott?
02:00
02:00:32	***	Alert Mode level 38
02:00:32	Bluechip	I find it awesome that so many people want me to fail
02:00:53	scott666	theres optimism and then theres realism
02:00:57	scott666	kik
02:00:58	scott666	*lol
02:01:15	***	Alert Mode level 39
02:01:15	Bluechip	and then there's "I don't understand it, therefore YOU should give up"
02:01:28	***	Alert Mode level 40
02:01:28	Bluechip	how many decompilers have you written before?
02:01:59	scott666	read the faq entries 17-19
02:02:07	scott666	if you want to do it, go ahead
02:02:54	***	Alert Mode level 41
02:02:54	Bluechip	yeah, the usual attitude i get here - give us lots of cool stuff for free and get aggro every timw you ask for a url or name of player etc.
02:03:27	***	Alert Mode level 42
02:03:27	Bluechip	scott, the only way to guarantee that you are a failure is to keep giving up
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02:04:39	***	Alert Mode level 43
02:04:39	Bluechip	in question 17 of the FAQ it says: " If anyone can help, please get in touch! " ...so that we can give you loads of shit
02:05:17	scott666	they have nothing against you actually doing it!
02:05:33	***	Alert Mode level 44
02:05:33	Bluechip	but everybody will hinder as much as is possible
02:05:35	scott666	theyre just tired of people asking for something that they cant easily do
02:05:47	***	Alert Mode level 45
02:05:47	Bluechip	im not asking for anything - i bloody offering to do it
02:06:02	scott666	i know!
02:06:20	scott666	if you have the ambition go ahead!
02:06:22	scott666	i support you
02:06:29	***	Alert Mode level 46
02:06:29	Bluechip	thank you for your kind permission
02:06:33	scott666	i think itd be awesome if someone could figure it out
02:06:49	scott666	the problem is no one has any information
02:07:01	***	Alert Mode level 47
02:07:01	Bluechip	if you want to help you can find out the name of the player that uses it and has timeslide - apparently google.com will bhelp
02:07:17	***	Alert Mode level 48
02:07:17	Bluechip	you could answer my simple questions, or leave the floor clear for those who can
02:07:32	BoD[]	what was the pdf you were mentioning ?
02:07:38	***	Alert Mode level 49
02:07:38	Bluechip	or do you think that I should do it on my own or not at all?
02:07:50	***	Alert Mode level 50
02:07:50	Bluechip	it is linked from the datasheets page on rockbox!
02:08:09	***	Alert Mode level 51
02:08:09	Bluechip	ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THIS "TERRATEC" PLAYER?
02:08:37	BoD[]	no
02:08:43	***	Alert Mode level 52
02:08:43	Bluechip	Track?
02:09:22	scott666	you could plead with Micronas for the data sheets
02:09:38	***	Alert Mode level 53
02:09:38	Bluechip	you could if you wanted to?
02:09:54	***	Alert Mode level 54
02:09:54	Bluechip	i very much doubt it would help
02:11:10	tracktheripper	its been discontinued as i can't find it
02:11:14	BoD[]	you need to be a customer of them to have the docs
02:11:28	scott666	so buy some MAS chips
02:11:28	scott666	lol
02:11:36	BoD[]	don't see why by the way... it's stupid of them !!
02:11:41	tracktheripper	you prob need a special machine to program it
02:11:42	***	Alert Mode level 55
02:11:42	Bluechip	you fund it, I'll buy them!
02:11:48	tracktheripper	prob a PC cannot program it!
02:11:49	tracktheripper	:D
02:11:59	***	Alert Mode level 56
02:11:59	Bluechip	read the datasheet on programming them
02:12:35	BoD[]	i'm going to watch a dvd now.. see you
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02:13:33	***	Alert Mode level 57
02:13:33	Bluechip	section 2.3
02:13:34	scott666	you could ask bj�rn to spend some of the donated money on it
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02:13:53	***	Alert Mode level 58
02:13:53	Bluechip	or we could track down firmware for one of these terratec players
02:14:38	scott666	good luck
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02:14:40	Bluechip	what WAS the terratec player called?
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02:25:29	midknight2k3	bod [dvd]?
02:25:38	scott666	hes watching a dvd
02:25:41	midknight2k3	lol
02:25:45	midknight2k3	i guessed
02:26:01	midknight2k3	what dvd?
02:26:07	scott666	he didnt say
02:26:07	midknight2k3	did he announce to world?
02:26:14	midknight2k3	rats
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02:39:40	reds1	hi
02:39:52	reds1	I have the archos jukebox recorder 15
02:40:01	Bluechip	cool
02:40:03	reds1	I'm trying to put rockbox on it
02:40:06	reds1	it doesn't work :\|
02:40:17	Bluechip	what does or doesn't it do?
02:40:22	reds1	it doesn't do anything
02:40:25	reds1	the files copy over
02:40:28	reds1	and thats it
02:40:34	reds1	still runds like it always does
02:40:40	***	Alert Mode level 1
02:40:40	Bluechip	so you press on and the player is totally dead
02:40:45	***	Alert Mode level 2
02:40:45	Bluechip	oh right
02:40:53	reds1	no, it works, just no rockbox
02:41:06	reds1	my mp3 player is F:\
02:41:11	scott666	did you put the ajbrec.ajz file in the root dir?
02:41:18	reds1	I extract em there, and nothing happens
02:41:19	***	Alert Mode level 3
02:41:19	Bluechip	what files are in the root directory?
02:41:22	reds1	root = F:\ correct
02:41:25	reds1	?
02:41:28	***	Alert Mode level 4
02:41:28	Bluechip	yes
02:41:30	reds1	my music folders
02:41:34	reds1	I have all music in root
02:41:40	***	Alert Mode level 5
02:41:40	Bluechip	is there a file called ajbrec.ajz?
02:41:43	scott666	do you have the ajbrec.ajz file though?
02:41:43	reds1	nope
02:41:46	reds1	just the one that I put there
02:41:48	scott666	thats your problem
02:41:49	***	Alert Mode level 6
02:41:49	Bluechip	that is your problem
02:41:53	***	Alert Mode level 7
02:41:53	Bluechip	lol
02:41:55	scott666	lol
02:41:59	reds1	so what does that mean?
02:42:03	***	Alert Mode level 8
02:42:03	Bluechip	we gotta stop this dude
02:42:13	scott666	its the actuall firmware file
02:42:16	***	Alert Mode level 9
02:42:16	Bluechip	you have not unzipped properly
02:42:33	scott666	its what rockbox is actually IN
02:42:41	reds1	how would I unzip properly
02:42:59	scott666	copy the zip file to your root dir, and unzip it there
02:43:24	scott666	you should get a .rockbox dir and ajbrec.ajz
02:43:24	***	Alert Mode level 10
02:43:24	Bluechip	if you right click on a ZIP file - do you get the option "extract here"?
02:43:51	reds1	yep
02:43:56	reds1	lets see what happens now
02:44:12	***	Alert Mode level 11
02:44:12	Bluechip	use right mouse and drag it over to your F: drive, then select "extract here"
02:44:27	scott666	you type slow
02:44:28	scott666	lol
02:44:52	***	Alert Mode level 12
02:44:52	Bluechip	also hunting for more mas info
02:44:52	reds1	:O
02:44:54	reds1	I think it worked :D
02:45:03	scott666	now he just has to learn to flash it
02:45:04	scott666	lol
02:45:14	***	Alert Mode level 13
02:45:14	Bluechip	i cant flash mine
02:45:17	***	Alert Mode level 14
02:45:17	Bluechip	:( :( :(
02:45:37	scott666	red: press F1 and go to Debug
02:45:43	reds1	it's workin
02:45:56	***	Alert Mode level 15
02:45:56	Bluechip	nice one dude :)
02:46:21	***	Alert Mode level 16
02:46:21	Bluechip	what version are you running? release 2.0?
02:46:26	***	Alert Mode level 17
02:46:26	Bluechip	or daily build?
02:46:49	scott666	he had a zip file
02:46:53	scott666	has to be 2,9
02:46:56	scott666	*2.0
02:46:59	reds1	yeah, it's 2.0
02:47:14	reds1	yay! now I don't knwo what to do with it :D
02:47:20	scott666	did you go to the debug menu?
02:47:21	***	Alert Mode level 18
02:47:21	Bluechip	scott: flash details will not be available
02:47:26	reds1	nope, I did not
02:47:38	scott666	really?
02:48:04	scott666	red: well do it! :�
02:48:36	reds1	why am I here?
02:48:40	***	Alert Mode level 19
02:48:40	Bluechip	advice: don't go in to the "keep out" area unless you are sure about it!
02:48:40	reds1	in teh debug?
02:48:54	scott666	theres nothing you can do
02:49:03	***	Alert Mode level 20
02:49:03	Bluechip	/me shrugs
02:49:07	scott666	just info to view thats confusing if you dont know what it is
02:49:36	reds1	I'm not retarded :P
02:49:54	scott666	in debug go down to view HW info
02:50:36	***	Alert Mode level 21
02:50:36	Bluechip	anybody speak french?
02:50:45	scott666	a little
02:50:51	scott666	my mom does
02:50:52	scott666	lol
02:50:55	***	Alert Mode level 22
02:50:55	Bluechip	http://linuxfr.org/2002/09/04/9489.html
02:51:01	***	Alert Mode level 23
02:51:01	Bluechip	may be helpful
02:51:58	***	Alert Mode level 24
02:51:58	Bluechip	actually, that said, babel fish has done quite a good job of it! - lol
02:52:19	reds1	whats the point
02:52:19	reds1	just info about hardware
02:52:48	scott666	do you see something about flash?
02:52:56	***	Alert Mode level 25
02:52:56	Bluechip	yes, didn't realise that until AFTER i had translated it!
02:53:06	reds1	no, just stuff about hardware
02:53:21	***	Alert Mode level 26
02:53:21	Bluechip	I did TRY to tell that!
02:53:33	scott666	bluechip: shhh
02:54:00	scott666	red: go to rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml
02:54:02	***	Alert Mode level 27
02:54:02	Bluechip	did you do the finger ove the mouth thing?
02:54:12	scott666	yes
02:54:13	scott666	yes i did
02:54:16	***	Alert Mode level 28
02:54:16	Bluechip	LOL
02:54:25	scott666	lol
02:54:28	reds1	and?
02:54:45	scott666	download the most recent ajbrec.ajz file
02:54:59	scott666	and replace the one in the root of your archos
02:55:14	reds1	what's so great about it?
02:55:19	scott666	its new
02:55:37	scott666	new features, bug fixes, etc.
02:55:37	reds1	probably unstable
02:55:50	scott666	im not having any problems
02:56:14	scott666	and when problems get created they get fixed fast
02:56:18	***	Alert Mode level 29
02:56:18	Bluechip	i would agree that you should upgrade, looaaddsss of new features
02:56:41	scott666	i saw a bug get fixed in like half an hour once
02:56:44	***	Alert Mode level 30
02:56:44	Bluechip	including my game :)
02:56:50	scott666	which is yours?
02:56:55	***	Alert Mode level 31
02:56:55	Bluechip	othelo
02:57:00	reds1	bug additions as well
02:57:00	reds1	what new features are there?
02:57:00	reds1	what features in the new one
02:57:16	scott666	enough to give you reason to upgrade
02:57:19	scott666	shut up and download it
02:57:19	scott666	lol
02:57:20	reds1	lol
02:57:25	reds1	:P\
02:57:33	***	Alert Mode level 32
02:57:33	Bluechip	resume is my fave
02:57:36	scott666	bluechip: i told you about hte bug i found, right?
02:57:50	scott666	dyanmic playlists are pretty cool too
02:58:17	***	Alert Mode level 33
02:58:17	Bluechip	i haven't had a chance to upgrade to the plugin system lately - and NONE of those bugs existed before it was ported
02:58:30	scott666	hmm
02:59:07	***	Alert Mode level 34
02:59:07	Bluechip	I am SURE that the plugins will have broken it in several ways - I made use of static variables, and I don't think the plugin system will support them :(
02:59:17	scott666	ahhh
02:59:20	scott666	thats probably it
02:59:53	scott666	its a small bug anyway
03:00
03:00:11	***	Alert Mode level 35
03:00:11	Bluechip	remind me, the mail i recall mentioned LOADS of bugs
03:00:38	reds1	ok
03:00:45	reds1	i installed it
03:00:56	scott666	when the human player gets the last turn and has no moves you have to hit 'quit'
03:00:59	scott666	ok
03:01:00	***	Alert Mode level 36
03:01:00	Bluechip	check that debug option again
03:01:12	scott666	now go to debug>HW info
03:01:26	***	Alert Mode level 37
03:01:26	Bluechip	hmm
03:01:27	scott666	the last option should be flash:
03:01:31	scott666	tell me what it says
03:01:40	reds1	I guess I installed it wrong
03:01:42	***	Alert Mode level 38
03:01:42	Bluechip	M=?? d=?? :( :(
03:01:57	scott666	how can you install it wrong??
03:02:01	***	Alert Mode level 39
03:02:01	Bluechip	lol
03:02:10	reds1	I saved teh file
03:02:10	scott666	honestly, HOW??
03:02:13	reds1	to F:\
03:02:18	reds1	and it's the same shit
03:02:20	reds1	that's how
03:02:24	scott666	OH
03:02:30	***	Alert Mode level 40
03:02:30	Bluechip	did you unzip it?
03:02:32	scott666	did you get rid of the old one?
03:02:45	reds1	yes, I renamed it to ajbrec.old
03:02:45	scott666	the archos firmware loads ajbrec.ajz*
03:02:53	reds1	and made the new ajbrec.ajz
03:03:32	scott666	press f1 and go to version
03:04:16	scott666	what version do you have?
03:04:24	reds1	2.0
03:04:29	scott666	should be 030722
03:05:11	scott666	go to the file you downloaded and press play on it
03:05:20	scott666	2.0 had rolo right?
03:05:36	***	Alert Mode level 41
03:05:36	Bluechip	dont recall
03:06:00	reds1	ok, I just ran that file
03:06:00	hardeep	scott666: yes it did, rolo's been in since 1.4
03:06:01	reds1	did some shit
03:06:08	scott666	good
03:06:33	scott666	ok reds go to version again
03:06:43	reds1	m=bf
03:06:48	reds1	d=d6
03:06:53	scott666	yay
03:06:53	***	Alert Mode level 42
03:06:53	Bluechip	lucky sob
03:06:56	scott666	lol
03:07:01	reds1	what's that mean?
03:07:13	scott666	it means you can flash your chip
03:07:46	scott666	...you can make your archos load rockbox directly, and boot in about 6 seconds
03:08:05	***	Alert Mode level 43
03:08:05	Bluechip	i thought 3 was the current record?
03:08:09	scott666	no
03:08:22	scott666	not after bj�rns new ata code
03:08:28	***	Alert Mode level 44
03:08:28	Bluechip	oh yes
03:08:33	scott666	(think it was bj�rn anyway)
03:08:42	***	Alert Mode level 45
03:08:42	Bluechip	not so sure
03:08:58	scott666	someones new ata code made it slower anyway
03:09:30	scott666	it should get faster when it stops looking for ajbrec.ajz
03:10:47	scott666	reds: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html
03:12:04	reds1	it goes louder now
03:12:10	reds1	and it's all distorted :\|
03:12:47	scott666	dont go up to 100%
03:12:59	***	Alert Mode level 46
03:12:59	Bluechip	buy new headphones?
03:13:13	reds1	I like my shit loud
03:13:27	reds1	I don't want to hear anyone or anything but my music when I wear headphones
03:13:31	scott666	if you stay around 85 it wont be distorted
03:13:37	reds1	I got it on 90
03:13:43	reds1	and I adjusted the bass and treble a bit
03:13:45	reds1	sounds good now
03:13:47	reds1	and loud :D
03:13:53	scott666	yeah, that'll work
03:13:59	***	Alert Mode level 47
03:13:59	Bluechip	bass can make it distort
03:14:18	reds1	what button to go back to the music
03:14:28	scott666	f1
03:14:29	reds1	f1?
03:14:33	reds1	same as old eh
03:14:37	scott666	yeah
03:14:41	scott666	its not a BIG upgrade
03:14:41	reds1	nope, it's going to the settings
03:14:48	scott666	just stuff added on to 2.0
03:14:54	reds1	off takes me back to the files, but the song stops
03:14:58	scott666	oh
03:15:00	scott666	press on
03:15:05	reds1	werd
03:15:26	reds1	iz good
03:15:38	scott666	from the wps (while playing screen) on goes to the dir browser, and on takes you back from there too
03:16:04	scott666	go to http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html
03:16:35	reds1	thats waht I need
03:16:37	reds1	new headphones
03:18:57	reds1	nice
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03:19:34	scott666	thats what m=bf means
03:19:42	midknight2k3	m=bf?
03:19:50	midknight2k3	:)
03:19:52	scott666	in the flash scren
03:20:01	midknight2k3	what does it mean?
03:20:15	scott666	he can flash
03:20:25	reds1	i can flash
03:20:25	***	Alert Mode level 48
03:20:25	Bluechip	manufacturer id code = BF
03:20:28	midknight2k3	who?
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03:20:36	scott666	lol
03:20:37	midknight2k3	lol
03:20:57		Nick reds\|canflash` is now known as reds` (~reds@68-173-188-173.nyc.rr.com)
03:21:16	midknight2k3	reds is nice
03:21:24	midknight2k3	I have no idea.
03:21:38	scott666	about what?
03:21:44	***	Alert Mode level 49
03:21:44	Bluechip	reds: please understand that if this goes wrong, you kill your player pretty much permanently
03:21:59	midknight2k3	player, recorder, or fm recorder?
03:21:59	scott666	...but it probably wont go wrong
03:22:03	midknight2k3	yeah
03:22:04	scott666	rec15
03:22:09	midknight2k3	follow instructions
03:22:10	***	Alert Mode level 50
03:22:10	Bluechip	oribably not - quite unlikely
03:22:13	midknight2k3	itll be ok
03:22:21	***	Alert Mode level 51
03:22:21	Bluechip	*probably
03:22:27	scott666	as long as you use the right one
03:22:38	***	Alert Mode level 52
03:22:38	Bluechip	and the batteries done fail
03:22:43	***	Alert Mode level 53
03:22:43	Bluechip	dont*
03:22:54	midknight2k3	lol
03:23:00	scott666	theres always the serial and UART mods
03:23:01	***	Alert Mode level 54
03:23:01	Bluechip	and there is no glitch on the bus
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03:23:39	***	Alert Mode level 55
03:23:39	Bluechip	wish there was the - no flash chip mod!
03:23:50	scott666	there is
03:23:54	***	Alert Mode level 56
03:23:54	Bluechip	/me is still feeling sorry for himself
03:23:56	scott666	buy a new chip and program it
03:23:57	midknight2k3	lol
03:24:02	scott666	and stick it in
03:24:13	***	Alert Mode level 57
03:24:13	Bluechip	that's easy - it's gluing it to the board that is ticky
03:24:15	***	Alert Mode level 58
03:24:15	Bluechip	tricky
03:24:30	***	Alert Mode level 59
03:24:30	Bluechip	i have a prom programmer on my desk
03:24:42	scott666	oooh! i know
03:24:51	scott666	sell it on ebay and buy an FMR
03:25:00	midknight2k3	fmrs rock
03:25:04	***	Alert Mode level 60
03:25:04	Bluechip	and the soldering skills of a blind man with parkinsons
03:25:06	scott666	fuck yeah they do
03:25:07	scott666	lol
03:25:17	midknight2k3	you havce one?\
03:25:20	***	Alert Mode level 61
03:25:20	Bluechip	FMR - no chance - hate them - suck in toooo many ways
03:25:22	scott666	yup
03:25:27	midknight2k3	one of the first that like it lol
03:25:30	midknight2k3	see?
03:25:35	midknight2k3	how?
03:25:37	scott666	yeahy
03:25:46	midknight2k3	i like it a lot too
03:25:50	midknight2k3	how bluechip?
03:25:51	***	Alert Mode level 62
03:25:51	Bluechip	no remote control
03:25:57	scott666	theyre making one
03:26:02	midknight2k3	oh Bbbbbbbboy
03:26:04	***	Alert Mode level 63
03:26:04	Bluechip	i hear there is no pin in it
03:26:13	midknight2k3	yo7u hear rong
03:26:13	scott666	pin?
03:26:16	***	Alert Mode level 64
03:26:16	Bluechip	no digital i/o
03:26:19	midknight2k3	lol
03:26:20	midknight2k3	oh
03:26:26	midknight2k3	there is none
03:26:29	midknight2k3	but who needs it
03:26:33	***	Alert Mode level 65
03:26:33	Bluechip	irreplaceable battery
03:26:37	midknight2k3	um
03:26:42	midknight2k3	not true?
03:26:43	scott666	but theres a lifetime warranty on it
03:26:45	midknight2k3	soon
03:26:49	***	Alert Mode level 66
03:26:49	Bluechip	headphone socket on the side
03:26:53	midknight2k3	yeah righ
03:26:59	midknight2k3	it's ok when you get used to it
03:27:03	midknight2k3	the only real quirk
03:27:12	PsycoXul	there is digital in or out i forget which
03:27:13	scott666	i dont mind it on the side
03:27:13	midknight2k3	i like it now
03:27:19	PsycoXul	there's just one and not the other supposedly
03:27:21	midknight2k3	none psyco
03:27:24	***	Alert Mode level 67
03:27:24	Bluechip	i would really have liked the radio, but it was not worth the losses :(
03:27:26	midknight2k3	no digital in or out
03:27:30	PsycoXul	midknight2k3: no, there is one
03:27:36	midknight2k3	no...
03:27:37	PsycoXul	it's got 4 pins in there
03:27:42	***	Alert Mode level 68
03:27:42	Bluechip	cool
03:27:44	midknight2k3	in where?
03:27:49	***	Alert Mode level 69
03:27:49	Bluechip	h/p socket
03:27:55	midknight2k3	oh
03:28:06	midknight2k3	they just didn't put in the adapter?
03:28:12	PsycoXul	i guess
03:28:17	midknight2k3	to prevent piracy
03:28:24	midknight2k3	(see my feature request) lo.,
03:28:30	***	Alert Mode level 70
03:28:30	Bluechip	no remote control to prevent piracy??
03:28:33	PsycoXul	the battery is replacable though, if you can get a replacement heh
03:28:39	midknight2k3	yeah
03:28:42	***	Alert Mode level 71
03:28:42	Bluechip	sadly you can't
03:28:46	***	Alert Mode level 72
03:28:46	Bluechip	it is illegal to sell them
03:28:47	midknight2k3	not YET
03:28:51	scott666	i took mine out the other day, it was fun
03:28:51	midknight2k3	how?
03:28:53	PsycoXul	remote control i dunno about
03:28:56	midknight2k3	lol
03:29:05	midknight2k3	i took apart the whole thing 3 days ago
03:29:05	PsycoXul	and the jack on the side really does suck
03:29:06	scott666	archos site said theyre developing it
03:29:07	midknight2k3	it was fun
03:29:22	PsycoXul	it's breaking my headphone cable when i put it in and take it out of my pocket
03:29:29	midknight2k3	boo hoo lol
03:29:43	PsycoXul	and when i have it in there in general
03:29:44	PsycoXul	heh
03:29:50	midknight2k3	lol
03:30:00	PsycoXul	and it's not as rugged as the old models, which is a big minus for me
03:30:21	PsycoXul	the ruggedness of the archos units was one of it's main selling points for me
03:30:33	midknight2k3	rugged?
03:30:37	midknight2k3	how is it noy?
03:30:40	PsycoXul	i haven't even dropped my FM once
03:30:43	PsycoXul	and it's harddrive is fucked
03:30:46	***	Alert Mode level 73
03:30:46	Bluechip	hard-wearing
03:30:48	midknight2k3	u oh
03:30:50	midknight2k3	how?
03:30:50	PsycoXul	it's erroring out, it won't even boot most of the time
03:30:59	PsycoXul	i'm gonna have to replace it
03:31:03	midknight2k3	butt nuts!
03:31:16	PsycoXul	but i've got recordings on there i've never been able to copy off correctly too
03:31:27	scott666	VBRFix
03:31:40	***	Alert Mode level 74
03:31:40	Bluechip	beat me to it - lol
03:31:47	midknight2k3	lol
03:31:47	PsycoXul	i've got one that's about 40 seconds long...
03:31:55	PsycoXul	everything, including rockbox, reports it as 31 seconds long
03:31:59	midknight2k3	ok wait
03:32:00	midknight2k3	WAIT
03:32:02	midknight2k3	hang on
03:32:04	PsycoXul	rockbox'll play the end of it, but nothing else will
03:32:05	midknight2k3	heres what you do
03:32:12	PsycoXul	and i've tried vbrfix'ing it several times
03:32:12	PsycoXul	heh
03:32:23	scott666	psycho: VBRFix
03:32:23	midknight2k3	plug in a cord from headphone out to computer
03:32:25	PsycoXul	i've even tried an mp3check util on it and it craps out on it too
03:32:26	midknight2k3	play and record
03:32:32	midknight2k3	craps out? lol
03:32:34	scott666	hmm
03:32:58	***	Alert Mode level 75
03:32:58	Bluechip	have you tried the MAD MP3 plugin for winamp?
03:33:02	PsycoXul	yeah i forget what exactly it does, but it was fucked and nothing useful heh
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03:34:14	PsycoXul	this thing about this mp3 is either to do with the HD errors or some bug that was in rockbox's recording when i recorded it
03:34:20	midknight2k3	earhurts
03:34:22	midknight2k3	is back
03:34:23	midknight2k3	hahah
03:34:39	earHurts	midk, heard you wrote a patch. cool
03:34:48	PsycoXul	either way it's sorta moot since i can't access the HD reliably now anyway
03:35:00	midknight2k3	what?
03:35:02	midknight2k3	not really
03:35:05	midknight2k3	sort of
03:35:21	earHurts	the scroll speed patch?
03:35:35	scott666	have you scandisced it?
03:35:42	earHurts	good work
03:35:45	midknight2k3	um
03:35:58	PsycoXul	and since the bestbuy here's been out of the older models for a long time now, the FM rec's all they got of archos... so i'm stuck with it.. i can go have the HD replaced, and hope it was just a defective HD and not shittyness of the FM that screwed the HD up
03:36:02	PsycoXul	heh
03:36:15	midknight2k3	lol
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03:36:33	scott666	i want to replace my HD anyway, its full
03:36:47	PsycoXul	yeah me too
03:36:51	midknight2k3	not i
03:36:53	scott666	i got a bunch of new cds, but i cant copy em all
03:36:53	midknight2k3	not yet
03:36:56	scott666	cause its full
03:36:57	***	Alert Mode level 76
03:36:57	Bluechip	it is unlikely that the player killed the HDD
03:36:58	midknight2k3	when i get EMUSIC LOL
03:37:02	earHurts	I replaced with 60GB
03:37:13	PsycoXul	but i need to get this one replaced with a good one under warranty before i rip it out and put a bigger one in heh
03:37:19	scott666	yeah, thats what im gonna do when i get hte $150
03:37:30	scott666	yeah
03:37:48	PsycoXul	i think dinner's ready, bbl
03:37:52	midknight2k3	ok
03:38:02	midknight2k3	jow much was 60gb earhurts?
03:38:08	earHurts	midk, btw, the stack % refers to the space used, not the cpu cycles
03:38:19	earHurts	$170 US
03:38:21	midknight2k3	%?
03:38:37	midknight2k3	what are you talking about?
03:38:37	scott666	5?
03:39:02	earHurts	you noted your patch set the scroll % to 27%
03:39:11	midknight2k3	ohhhhhhh
03:39:14	midknight2k3	lol
03:39:22	midknight2k3	space used?
03:39:35	earHurts	by local variables
03:39:42	midknight2k3	... make sense?
03:40:12	earHurts	variables defined inside functions
03:40:24	midknight2k3	so 27% of it's top speed?
03:40:28	midknight2k3	or top usage?
03:40:29	earHurts	nope
03:40:30	midknight2k3	or something
03:40:33	midknight2k3	lol
03:40:40	midknight2k3	myy foingerrrr
03:40:43	midknight2k3	it hurrrts
03:41:02	earHurts	it means that 27% of the stack's scratch-pad has been written on
03:41:13	midknight2k3	oh
03:41:58	earHurts	but nevermind
03:42:03	midknight2k3	right lol]
03:42:10	earHurts	it's cool you wrote a patch
03:42:40	midknight2k3	not really a patch
03:42:55	earHurts	a code change
03:43:10	midknight2k3	i did a few other things just to see
03:43:32	earHurts	very good
03:43:46	earHurts	way to learn
03:43:50	midknight2k3	yes
03:43:57	midknight2k3	i get the basics now at least
03:44:16	scott666	i want to do that
03:44:18	midknight2k3	and compiling and stuff is now something i don't even have to think about really
03:44:26	midknight2k3	its fun scott
03:44:30	scott666	yeah
03:44:35	earHurts	told you it's easy
03:44:41	midknight2k3	i sat there for 6 hours one night but had to go to bed cause i was too tired
03:44:46	midknight2k3	i wanted to go on
03:44:48	scott666	i read the stuff about patches but i got kidna confused
03:44:48	midknight2k3	so badly
03:44:52	midknight2k3	for years and years
03:44:56	scott666	i need a linux box
03:45:00	midknight2k3	nono
03:45:05	midknight2k3	it's not that complicated
03:45:10	midknight2k3	start with beign able to build rockbox
03:45:16	scott666	yeah
03:45:22	scott666	it wants linux or cygwin
03:45:36	midknight2k3	cygwin is good
03:45:38	scott666	a linux box is simplet
03:45:39	ricII	hmm linux is a better choise..
03:45:40	earHurts	cygwin's good to have
03:45:41	scott666	*er
03:45:47	midknight2k3	well
03:45:50	midknight2k3	i prefer cygwin
03:45:52	midknight2k3	very simple
03:45:55	scott666	ok
03:45:56	midknight2k3	no additional CRAP needed
03:46:10	midknight2k3	cygwin and a few spare hours does the trick
03:46:20	earHurts	if you're used to windows, get cygwin
03:46:26	ricII	crap == win
03:46:38	***	Alert Mode level 77
03:46:38	Bluechip	here we go...
03:46:41	scott666	no no, win == crap
03:46:41	midknight2k3	lol
03:46:47	midknight2k3	OH BOY
03:46:47	ricII	hehe
03:46:49	***	Alert Mode level 78
03:46:49	Bluechip	ohhhh noo it isn't
03:46:53	***	Alert Mode level 79
03:46:53	Bluechip	oohhhhhhh yes it is
03:46:57	scott666	not all crap is windows
03:47:01	scott666	but all windows is crap
03:47:09	***	Alert Mode level 80
03:47:09	Bluechip	Speccy's were ALWAYS better than the Vic-20's
03:47:22	***	Alert Mode level 81
03:47:22	Bluechip	And mega-drives were better than nes
03:47:22	midknight2k3	SHUT UP PLEASE
03:47:23	midknight2k3	lol
03:47:25	midknight2k3	god go dogd
03:47:28	midknight2k3	ok
03:47:35	midknight2k3	some poeple prefer windows, others, linux
03:47:42	midknight2k3	who minds?
03:47:43	***	Alert Mode level 82
03:47:43	Bluechip	indeed ::)
03:47:44	earHurts	I prefer religious wars to real coding
03:47:52	scott666	yeah, completely ingnore mac
03:47:55	scott666	the way it should be
03:48:34	***	Alert Mode level 83
03:48:34	Bluechip	oh yes, I fogot about the mac/pc one
03:48:41	midknight2k3	sigh
03:48:51	scott666	there isnt one, its just windows/nx
03:48:55	ricII	eah sti;; runing on ppc-61364
03:49:22	***	Alert Mode level 84
03:49:22	Bluechip	i know how to make a 6502 out of 10 empty 2 litre coke bottles
03:49:28	earHurts	xor ax,ax
03:49:30	***	Alert Mode level 85
03:49:30	Bluechip	lol
03:49:41	ricII	oke can't type..
03:50:21	***	Alert Mode level 86
03:50:21	Bluechip	mov.b #0,d31
03:50:27	***	Alert Mode level 87
03:50:27	Bluechip	mov.l even
03:50:29	***	Alert Mode level 88
03:50:29	Bluechip	lol
03:50:46	ricII	but linux give a good basic idea off programing
03:51:12	ricII	ori 0,0,0
03:51:26	ricII	preffered nop on ppc
03:52:25	ricII	yes we have others...
03:52:51	***	Alert Mode level 89
03:52:51	Bluechip	add r0,r0,r31
03:53:04	***	Alert Mode level 90
03:53:04	Bluechip	or ..ad r0,r0,r0 for nop
03:53:08	***	Alert Mode level 91
03:53:08	Bluechip	add*
03:53:20	***	Alert Mode level 92
03:53:20	Bluechip	ldx #0
03:53:25	ricII	ok
03:53:33	earHurts	jnz +4
03:53:34	ricII	rca1802 ?
03:55:21	earHurts	anybody want more id3 tags?
03:55:35	scott666	more?
03:55:57	earHurts	the spec lists more than rockbox supports
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03:57:00	scott666	i have enough id3 personally
03:57:28	ricII	Bluechip: any good in programing dsp ?
03:57:34	***	Alert Mode level 93
03:57:34	Bluechip	yep
03:58:00	***	Alert Mode level 94
03:58:00	Bluechip	that is, all except the maths of it
03:58:15	***	Alert Mode level 95
03:58:15	Bluechip	tend to use other peoples fouriers etc
03:58:25	ricII	ogg still inposible ?
03:58:48	***	Alert Mode level 96
03:58:48	Bluechip	need to decompile the terratec code i think
03:59:02	ricII	only 4k mem...
03:59:13	scott666	yeah
03:59:15	scott666	its in the faq
03:59:23	***	Alert Mode level 97
03:59:23	Bluechip	its in the datasheet
03:59:35	scott666	you could just replace the MAS with something programmable
03:59:36	scott666	lol
03:59:36	***	Alert Mode level 98
03:59:36	Bluechip	you can doo a lot with 1024 mips instructions
03:59:44	***	Alert Mode level 99
03:59:44	Bluechip	the mas is programmable
04:00
04:00:12	scott666	*something programmable with documentation thats freely available
04:00:28	scott666	happy?
04:00:48	***	Alert Mode RED level 100
04:00:48	Bluechip	you are, of course, right
04:00:48	scott666	and why would the terratec firmware help us?
04:01:06	***	Alert Mode RED level 101
04:01:06	Bluechip	it wouldn't - it will be easier to replace the chip apparently
04:01:18	scott666	:P
04:02:03	scott666	seriously though, what makes the terrtec firmware any more helpful than the archos firmware?
04:02:16	midknight2k3	terratec?
04:02:36	ricII	I convinced my math friend to get an archos :) ( he worked with dsp)
04:02:40	earHurts	mas cgiooirf
04:02:40	***	Alert Mode RED level 102
04:02:40	Bluechip	a.n.other player which uses the mas 3507 - allegedly
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04:03:54	scott666	didnt the faq say something about there being 2 different MAS chips?
04:04:08	***	Alert Mode RED level 103
04:04:08	Bluechip	i believe the latter is the adac
04:04:22	ricII	hacking around dolby crap an such..
04:05:17	scott666	thats a plus
04:05:22	midknight2k3	booo hooo
04:06:07	earHurts	what's wrong midk?
04:06:19	***	Alert Mode RED level 104
04:06:19	Bluechip	probably MIDI mis-typed
04:06:33	midknight2k3	my finger hurts
04:06:34	ricII	:)
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04:06:47	***	Alert Mode RED level 105
04:06:47	Bluechip	lol
04:06:53	fingerHurts	:D
04:06:58	scott666	lol
04:07:06	earHurts	and his palms are hairy too
04:07:12	scott666	wonder why...
04:07:18	fingerHurts	it's highly doubted
04:09:56	ricII	now I only have to get him adicted to ogg...
04:10:30	fingerHurts	adn why?
04:11:33	fingerHurts	so i can code it for you
04:11:37	fingerHurts	?
04:12:09	ricII	well it comes down to that yes...
04:13:01	fingerHurts	lol
04:13:04	fingerHurts	i hate ogg from now on
04:13:13	fingerHurts	and.. forEVER
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04:16:06	scott666	lol
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04:25:10	Bluechip	i would like to find versions 2.09 and 2.10 of the terratec firmware
04:25:24	hatesOgg	right
04:25:26	hatesOgg	oops
04:25:29	Bluechip	sorry - 2.10 and 2.11
04:25:34		Nick hatesOgg is now known as midknight2k3 (LaLaLaLaLa@AC9ED6CC.ipt.aol.com)
04:25:44	***	Alert Mode level 1
04:25:44	Bluechip	which contains a mod to the mas code
04:25:53	midknight2k3	coool
04:25:59	midknight2k3	then put that mod in rockbox? ;)
04:26:13	***	Alert Mode level 2
04:26:13	Bluechip	they look like they ALL contain extra features
04:26:29	***	Alert Mode level 3
04:26:29	Bluechip	but that version may actually change the mas code from one thing to another
04:26:42	midknight2k3	yeah
04:26:46	***	Alert Mode level 4
04:26:46	Bluechip	maybe also 1.06a -> 2.07
04:26:55	***	Alert Mode level 5
04:26:55	Bluechip	argghhhh 2.06a
04:27:55	***	Alert Mode level 6
04:27:55	Bluechip	a complete set would be nice
04:28:10	midknight2k3	right
04:28:34	***	Alert Mode level 7
04:28:34	Bluechip	this is given that the information from tracktheripper can be confirmed
04:28:51	midknight2k3	lol
04:29:01	midknight2k3	he said something about this?
04:29:40	***	Alert Mode level 8
04:29:40	Bluechip	http://m3po.de/download/
04:30:53	midknight2k3	votever
04:31:15	scott666	so this thing had a cd drive and a wheel?
04:31:30	***	Alert Mode level 9
04:31:30	Bluechip	the alternative is that I keep all my discoveries to myself really - seems ike a helpful thing to do, is publish them
04:31:56	***	Alert Mode level 10
04:31:56	Bluechip	actually, I should make this easy to search for....
04:32:16	***	Alert Mode level 11
04:32:16	Bluechip	mas 3507 D download program codec
04:32:34	***	Alert Mode level 12
04:32:34	Bluechip	terratec m3po
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04:33:44	***	Alert Mode level 13
04:33:44	Bluechip	anyone helpful in germany?
04:34:35	midknight2k3	not i
04:34:36	scott666	i was talking to a german guy the other day
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04:34:44	scott666	cant remember his name though
04:34:44	scott666	lol
04:35:09	***	Alert Mode level 14
04:35:09	Bluechip	may be worth phoning terratec and speaking to their techies - but you only get one shot at this kind of thing - so best pick wisely
04:35:13	scott666	does it seem odd that the terratec site makes NO mention of the m3po?
04:35:22	***	Alert Mode level 15
04:35:22	Bluechip	indeed
04:35:30	***	Alert Mode level 16
04:35:30	Bluechip	i wonder if their sound card uses the same chip also?
04:36:58	***	Alert Mode level 17
04:36:58	Bluechip	anyone found anything technical on this player?
04:37:16	***	Alert Mode level 18
04:37:16	Bluechip	like what processor it uses?
04:37:29	scott666	have you looked at www.mp3o.net
04:37:56	***	Alert Mode level 19
04:37:56	Bluechip	.....
04:38:06	***	Alert Mode level 20
04:38:06	Bluechip	at 621b/s could be a while
04:40:03	midknight2k3	sigh
04:40:37	***	Alert Mode level 21
04:40:37	Bluechip	am there now - where is the techie info :)
04:40:46	scott666	im not finding any
04:41:24	***	Alert Mode level 22
04:41:24	Bluechip	i'll look somewhere else then
04:45:28	***	Alert Mode level 23
04:45:28	Bluechip	if this turns out to be true, then i just found: Analogue and digital audio recording (MP3, WAV) and playback (MP3, WAV, WMA)
04:46:17	scott666	for what?
04:46:17	***	Alert Mode level 24
04:46:17	Bluechip	-bit RISC processor for controls
04:46:22	***	Alert Mode level 25
04:46:22	Bluechip	terratec
04:47:01	scott666	does the fact that the mp3o isnt portable make any difference?
04:47:16	***	Alert Mode level 26
04:47:16	Bluechip	we are only interested in the mas code
04:47:37	***	Alert Mode level 27
04:47:37	Bluechip	not the box it comes in
04:48:07	midknight2k3	are you done now
04:48:20	scott666	will we be able to program it with software? a plug-in maybe?
04:48:22	***	Alert Mode level 28
04:48:22	Bluechip	is that aimed at me?
04:48:36	***	Alert Mode level 29
04:48:36	Bluechip	i would hope so
04:48:39	scott666	like the flash chip
04:49:38	***	Alert Mode level 30
04:49:38	Bluechip	anyone know what m3po.nl is?
04:49:54	scott666	nope
04:50:18	scott666	could we reverse enginneer those firmware update .exes you found?
04:50:30	***	Alert Mode level 31
04:50:30	Bluechip	not unless we know what is inside the unit
04:50:47	***	Alert Mode level 32
04:50:47	Bluechip	well, back to that easy thing again
04:50:51	scott666	ooh! i had an idea
04:50:55	***	Alert Mode level 33
04:50:55	Bluechip	"easy"*
04:50:57	scott666	www.ebay.com
04:51:12	***	Alert Mode level 34
04:51:12	Bluechip	cool - buy one and open it! :)
04:51:39	scott666	none
04:51:42	scott666	damnit
04:51:56	scott666	SOMEONE has to sell them
04:52:03	***	Alert Mode level 35
04:52:03	Bluechip	http://supporten.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=36
04:52:22	midknight2k3	i will go now
04:52:22	midknight2k3	bye
04:52:26	***	Alert Mode level 36
04:52:26	Bluechip	nighty
04:52:31	scott666	l8er
04:52:35		Quit midknight2k3 ("neato")
04:52:45	***	Alert Mode level 37
04:52:45	Bluechip	http://supporten.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=132
04:53:22	scott666	Variable playback speed possible without affecting pitch
04:53:38	***	Alert Mode level 38
04:53:38	Bluechip	that'll be done in the mas i would think
04:53:45	scott666	yeah
04:53:52	scott666	i think theres a NODO entry about that
04:54:29	scott666	mp3 decoding hardware = MAS right?
04:54:34	***	Alert Mode level 39
04:54:34	Bluechip	yep
04:55:32	scott666	theres all kinds of stuff on that page that can get you motivated to program the mas
04:55:45	***	Alert Mode level 40
04:55:45	Bluechip	http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=terratec&ss=1
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04:57:24	scott666	have you tried searching for binaries?
04:57:49	***	Alert Mode level 41
04:57:49	Bluechip	not yet
04:58:15	hardeep	Bluechip: please disable the colors in your messages
04:58:34	scott666	his messages have color?
04:58:56	***	Alert Mode level 42
04:58:56	Bluechip	not if you filter it
04:59:04	scott666	i guess that is kinda blue
04:59:16	hardeep	yeah, take a look at the log though
04:59:47	***	Alert Mode level 43
04:59:47	Bluechip	fer sure - got a url or di i need to go hunting for it?
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05:00:01	hardeep	rockbox.haxx.se/irc/current.txt
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05:00:13	scott666	04.57.49 # <Bluechip> not yet
05:00:13	scott666	04.58.15 # <hardeep> Bluechip: please disable the colors in your messages
05:00:13	scott666	04.58.34 # <scott666> his messages have color?
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05:00:13	scott666	04.58.56 # <Bluechip> not if you filter it
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05:00:13	scott666	04.59.04 # <scott666> i guess that is kinda blue
05:00:27	hardeep	you usually get booted for colors, not sure what's wrong
05:00:31	scott666	taht didnt work
05:00:33	scott666	lol
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05:00:56	Bluechip	that's cool - i can do that from here
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05:33:22	dbrewer	Howdy −− my first time on this channel, so of course I'm here because of a tech question. :-)
05:34:13	dbrewer	Does anyone here know anything about the current status of the Red Led Dead problem? I searched the mailing list and the last post I saw about it seemed to be in mid June
05:35:27	dbrewer	I have a recorder 20, used version 2.0 with the stock hard drive for a couple of weeks without ever having the problem once
05:35:49	dbrewer	yesterday I upgraded the hard drive to a fujitsu mht2060AT 60 gig hard drive
05:36:25	dbrewer	all seemed to go well, except that now I get the red led dead problem whenever I listen for any length of time.
05:36:52	dbrewer	I'm wondering if I screwed up my install, or if lots of people are still encountering this
05:37:27	dbrewer	the only other big change is that I started using mp3s compressed at 192 instead of 128.
05:37:39	dbrewer	Switched to the latest daily, and that didn't seem to resolve anything.
05:41:26	hardeep	dbrewer: the bug is still open
05:41:37	scott666	yeah, i always get it
05:42:18	hardeep	dbrewer: have you tried the build that was posted here: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-06/0334.shtml ?
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06:11:09	noneonfldfusiuie	its mark
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06:11:15	scott666	,01hey
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06:18:22	scott666	,01,00,01anyone know how to disable colors in trillian?
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08:25:30	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:25:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:25:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:25:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:25:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:25:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:25:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:25:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:25:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:25:30	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:25:30	***	Cleanup
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:25:30	***	Cleanup
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:25:30	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:25:30	***	Cleanup
08:25:30	***	Cleanup
08:25:30	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:25:30	***	Exit
08:26:59	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:26:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:26:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:26:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:26:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:26:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:26:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:26:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:26:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:26:59	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:26:59	***	Cleanup
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:26:59	***	Cleanup
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:26:59	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:26:59	***	Cleanup
08:26:59	***	Cleanup
08:26:59	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:26:59	***	Exit
08:28:31	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:28:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:28:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:28:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:28:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:28:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:28:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:28:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:28:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:28:31	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:28:31	***	Cleanup
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:28:31	***	Cleanup
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:28:31	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:28:31	***	Cleanup
08:28:31	***	Cleanup
08:28:31	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:28:31	***	Exit
08:30:00	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:30:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:30:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:30:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:30:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:30:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:30:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:30:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:30:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:30:00	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:30:00	***	Cleanup
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:30:00	***	Cleanup
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:30:00	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:30:00	***	Cleanup
08:30:00	***	Cleanup
08:30:00	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:30:00	***	Exit
08:31:32	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:31:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:31:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:31:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:31:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:31:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:31:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:31:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:31:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:31:32	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:31:32	***	Cleanup
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:31:32	***	Cleanup
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:31:32	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:31:32	***	Cleanup
08:31:32	***	Cleanup
08:31:32	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:31:32	***	Exit
08:33:02	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:33:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:33:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:33:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:33:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:33:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:33:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:33:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:33:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:33:02	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:33:02	***	Cleanup
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:33:02	***	Cleanup
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:33:02	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:33:02	***	Cleanup
08:33:02	***	Cleanup
08:33:02	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:33:02	***	Exit
08:34:31	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:34:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:34:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:34:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:34:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:34:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:34:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:34:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:34:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:34:31	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:34:31	***	Cleanup
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:34:31	***	Cleanup
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:34:31	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:34:31	***	Cleanup
08:34:31	***	Cleanup
08:34:31	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:34:31	***	Exit
08:36:01	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:36:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:36:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:36:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:36:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:36:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:36:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:36:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:36:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:36:01	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:36:01	***	Cleanup
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:36:01	***	Cleanup
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:36:01	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:36:01	***	Cleanup
08:36:01	***	Cleanup
08:36:01	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:36:01	***	Exit
08:37:32	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:37:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:37:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:37:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:37:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:37:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:37:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:37:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:37:32	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:37:32	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:37:32	***	Cleanup
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:37:32	***	Cleanup
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:37:32	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:37:32	***	Cleanup
08:37:32	***	Cleanup
08:37:32	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:37:32	***	Exit
08:39:02	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:39:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:39:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:39:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:39:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:39:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:39:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:39:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:39:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:39:02	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:39:02	***	Cleanup
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:39:02	***	Cleanup
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:39:02	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:39:02	***	Cleanup
08:39:02	***	Cleanup
08:39:02	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:39:02	***	Exit
08:40:31	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:40:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:40:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:40:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:40:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:40:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:40:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:40:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:40:31	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:40:31	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:40:31	***	Cleanup
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:40:31	***	Cleanup
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:40:31	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:40:31	***	Cleanup
08:40:31	***	Cleanup
08:40:31	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:40:31	***	Exit
08:42:01	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:42:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:42:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:42:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:42:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:42:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:42:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:42:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:42:01	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:42:01	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:42:01	***	Cleanup
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:42:01	***	Cleanup
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:42:01	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:42:01	***	Cleanup
08:42:01	***	Cleanup
08:42:01	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:42:01	***	Exit
08:43:30	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:43:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:43:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:43:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:43:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:43:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:43:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:43:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:43:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:43:30	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:43:30	***	Cleanup
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:43:30	***	Cleanup
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:43:30	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:43:30	***	Cleanup
08:43:30	***	Cleanup
08:43:30	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:43:30	***	Exit
08:45:00	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:45:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:45:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:45:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:45:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:45:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:45:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:45:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:45:00	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:45:00	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:45:00	***	Cleanup
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:45:00	***	Cleanup
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:45:00	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:45:00	***	Cleanup
08:45:00	***	Cleanup
08:45:00	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:45:00	***	Exit
08:46:29	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:46:29	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:46:29	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:46:29	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:46:29	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:46:29	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:46:29	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:46:29	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:46:29	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:46:29	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:46:29	***	Cleanup
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:46:29	***	Cleanup
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:46:29	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:46:29	***	Cleanup
08:46:29	***	Cleanup
08:46:29	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:46:29	***	Exit
08:47:59	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:47:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:47:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:47:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:47:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:47:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:47:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:47:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:47:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:47:59	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:47:59	***	Cleanup
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:47:59	***	Cleanup
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:47:59	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:47:59	***	Cleanup
08:47:59	***	Cleanup
08:47:59	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:47:59	***	Exit
08:49:28	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:49:28	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:49:28	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:49:28	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:49:28	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:49:28	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:49:28	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:49:28	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:49:28	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:49:28	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:49:28	***	Cleanup
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:49:28	***	Cleanup
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:49:28	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:49:28	***	Cleanup
08:49:28	***	Cleanup
08:49:28	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:49:28	***	Exit
08:50:58	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:50:58	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:50:58	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:50:58	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:50:58	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:50:58	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:50:58	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:50:58	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:50:58	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:50:58	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:50:58	***	Cleanup
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:50:58	***	Cleanup
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:50:58	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:50:58	***	Cleanup
08:50:58	***	Cleanup
08:50:58	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:50:58	***	Exit
08:52:30	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:52:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:52:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:52:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:52:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:52:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:52:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:52:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:52:30	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:52:30	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:52:30	***	Cleanup
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	***	Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:52:30	***	Cleanup
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	DEBUG	connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused)
08:52:30	***	Unable to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times)
08:52:30	***	Cleanup
08:52:30	***	Cleanup
08:52:30	***	No seen item changed, no save performed.
08:52:30	***	Exit
08:53:59	***	Started Dancer V4.16p1
08:53:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:53:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:53:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:53:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
08:53:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory)
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11:03:15	Zagor	hi guys
11:03:25	dwihno	ZAGOR! :D
11:03:29	dwihno	Damn it's fun to see you!
11:03:31	dwihno	Welcome back!
11:03:36	Zagor	thanks
11:03:44	dwihno	Nice vacation?
11:03:47	dwihno	Got a nice tan?
11:03:54	dwihno	Been in Skellefte�? :)
11:04:25	Zagor	yeah, nice tan. i've been in Hurghada.
11:04:38	Zagor	that place is HOT in july...
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11:09:55	Bagder	hey bro
11:13:35	dwihno	Hurghada? Sounds indian. Did you eat curry?
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11:15:18	Zagor	actually it's in egypt. no so muh curry, but lots of nice diving.
11:15:27	Zagor	hi bagder
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11:20:58	dwihno	:-)
11:21:01	dwihno	You are SO crazy!
11:21:21	Bagder	Zagor: we had pretty hot last week here too
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11:22:37	dwihno	Our air conditioning at work broke down
11:22:59	Bagder	ouch
11:24:33	Bagder	Zagor: when you get some time, can you check to see why my full-zip fix in the daily build script fails
11:25:36	Zagor	ok. i'll be rather busy a while catching up with last week
11:25:47	Bagder	I figure that ;-)
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13:45:36	earHurts	smurf
13:45:46	Bagder	indeed
13:48:45	dwihno	or perhaps no
13:48:50	dwihno	t
13:57:37	earHurts	any thoughts on whether rockbox should support all id3 2.4 tags?
13:57:53	Bagder	all?
13:58:06	Bagder	I must say no
13:58:11	Bagder	there are insanely many of them
13:58:25	earHurts	there are
13:58:40	dwihno	I think id3 v1 was pretty good
13:58:46	dwihno	perhaps the fields should've been bigger
13:59:07	earHurts	v1 fields, in any case, are too small
13:59:24	Bagder	yeah
13:59:37	earHurts	how about selecting the tags to read by extractinging them from the wps?
13:59:55	Bagder	I don't see the point
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14:00:02	Bagder	let's support those that make sense
14:00:40	earHurts	ok, what makes sense?
14:00:54	Bagder	well, which ones do you miss?
14:01:33	earHurts	i'd like all the tits and all the tpes at least
14:01:58	earHurts	but will somebody want tags you and I wouldn't consider essential?
14:02:11	Bagder	perhaps
14:02:22	Bagder	but we do have a rather limited amount of ram
14:02:56	Hes	all the tits? are the fields too small for your tits? 8-)
14:03:04	earHurts	yes. but we can potentially read only those of interest
14:03:13	earHurts	I have big tits, yes
14:05:07	earHurts	here's a thout. we could read, in addition to the regular tags, some additional number as indicated by the wps
14:06:12	Bagder	if done nicely, yes I could agree to such an approach
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14:07:19	earHurts	what's nicely?
14:07:33	Bagder	the code
14:09:21	dwihno	Bagder: What do you think about a playlist editor, such as the archo's one?
14:09:35	Bagder	never tried that
14:09:48	Bagder	but I wouldn't mind one
14:09:50	dwihno	it's pretty basic, but it still does the job
14:10:21	dwihno	I prefer creating playlists on the PC anyhow.
14:10:29	dwihno	It's a far too tedious task.
14:10:40	PsycoXul	i'd like to be able to add/remove multiple files and whole directories at a time
14:10:41	earHurts	what we need is a playlist browser
14:10:51	PsycoXul	dwihno: with a decent interface, it shouldn't be tedious
14:11:13	earHurts	huffman alphabet for input?
14:11:14	dwihno	PsycoXul: With multiple files across several dirs - I can't see an easy way to do it.
14:12:26	PsycoXul	well what i imagine is a sortof playlist mode browsing where you can select one or more files and directories and then do something to add the selected ones to the playlist, and then you continue on like that
14:13:02	PsycoXul	and then you can switch to browse the playlist itself and do similar things to move and remove entries
14:13:19	dwihno	quite a challenge there.
14:13:20	PsycoXul	not very basic, but shouldn't be too complicated either i don't think
14:14:08	PsycoXul	really, what i picture isn't much more than the directory browser as it is, with some enhancements that resemble standard GUI shift/ctrl+click stuff
14:14:56	earHurts	I always wondered why no one hacked the dir browser to show playlists
14:15:23	Bagder	because of the complexity, I'd say
14:15:36	Bagder	at least the one that is being played
14:16:41	PsycoXul	as far as removing and moving entries in a playlist, it seems like it might be a good idea to write a text editor that can move and delete lines easily
14:17:02	PsycoXul	maybe nobody'd even care about being able to move, and only worry about deleting
14:18:07	PsycoXul	but that way the same code could be used for some playlist manipulation and any crazy people who wanna enter text on their archos :p
14:18:59	PsycoXul	shrug for me the important thing is being able to very easily build large playlists
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14:20:04	PsycoXul	i like to set up usualy several albums to play, sometimes excluding certain songs from them
14:20:15	PsycoXul	i mainly just want it to be easy to build them
14:20:30	PsycoXul	which means not having to go file by file with a bunch of clicks on each to add it
14:21:00	PsycoXul	That is whats tedious about making playlists heh
14:21:50	Zagor	can anyone here easily reproduce red-led-dead?
14:22:20	Bagder	nope
14:22:46	earHurts	no, although I should note that the archos firmware also does the dead stop must turn off bit
14:23:12	Zagor	really? i haven't heard that before.
14:23:27	dwihno	it does?
14:23:33	dwihno	Never heard of that.
14:23:35	earHurts	thought I'd mwntioned it on the list
14:24:15	earHurts	It's been a while since I've used the archos firmware, but yes, I recall having to reboot
14:25:37	PsycoXul	my unit currently refuses to boot with an HD register error
14:29:33	earHurts	gotta go
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14:42:38	tracktheripper	hello
14:42:44	Bagder	hi
14:42:50	tracktheripper	hi bag
14:43:14	tracktheripper	whats happening?
14:43:35	Bagder	not very much
14:43:49	tracktheripper	lol
14:43:57	tracktheripper	are anymore plugs gonna be arriving soon?
14:44:30	Bagder	no idea
14:45:00	tracktheripper	well i think a way to implement your own pic for the Sliding Puzzle would be good :-)
14:46:35	tracktheripper	you could dump your piccies in a folder and let the plugin pick a pic at random :-)
14:47:18	Zagor	suggest it to the author
14:48:16	tracktheripper	who is the author?
14:48:21	tracktheripper	ill send it to him
14:48:36	Zagor	Vincentini Martin
14:48:56	tracktheripper	:-)
14:49:01	tracktheripper	do u have his email address?
14:49:25	Zagor	no. but look at the patch in sourceforge. it should be there.
14:49:37	tracktheripper	thanxs
14:49:37	tracktheripper	:D
14:49:43	tracktheripper	cheers Bjord
14:49:45	tracktheripper	Bjorn
14:49:47	Zagor	actually it's vici@gmx.ch
14:49:52	Zagor	found a mail
14:50:19	tracktheripper	cheeers
14:50:24	tracktheripper	gonna send it now
14:52:06	tracktheripper	sent
14:52:07	tracktheripper	:)
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15:46:31	Baka^Ni	anyone suffer from red led dead?
15:46:43	Baka^Ni	obviously not themselves
15:46:46	Baka^Ni	their boxes ;)
15:48:05	Zagor	boo :)
15:48:17	dwihno	I've experienced the problem, yes.
15:48:35	dwihno	Zagor: I was thinking about some power animation for the new charging screen, any ideas?
15:49:11	Zagor	a nice battery with juice flowing into it?
15:49:25	dwihno	Haha. I just had a vivid image :-D
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15:49:59	Baka^Ni	manage to fix red led dead?
15:50:07	Baka^Ni	its incredibly irratating
15:50:07	Baka^Ni	:(
15:50:27	Zagor	try turning off resume and see if you notice a difference
15:50:40	Baka^Ni	okie doke
15:50:51	Baka^Ni	and any other tips if that doesn't work?
15:50:56	Baka^Ni	:)
15:51:05	Zagor	not really. we don't know yet what causes it.
15:51:48	Baka^Ni	hum
15:51:56	Baka^Ni	I kinda get a mini one with the archos firmware
15:52:23	Baka^Ni	it does the same thing, but it comes back to life instead of dying
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16:05:01	dwihno	dying sounds so dramatic
16:05:06	dwihno	It just takes a long rest.
16:06:31	Baka^Ni	for ever :)
16:06:32	Baka^Ni	btw
16:06:39	Baka^Ni	turning off resume doesn't work :(
16:06:48	Baka^Ni	is there a timer for the hd read?
16:07:02	Baka^Ni	so that the box can give up trying to read
16:09:03	Baka^Ni	what happened to the sestematic walk back through the cvs to find out when the bug was introduced?
16:09:09	Baka^Ni	Zagor
16:09:11	Baka^Ni	:P
16:09:30	Zagor	nobody reported much
16:10:03	Baka^Ni	if there is an easy supply of firmware revisions, I will do the entire lot myself
16:10:06	Baka^Ni	:)
16:11:53	dwihno	Zagor: Let's serial mod my unit, gdb it while walking with a laptop in a backpack.
16:12:15	Zagor	haha
16:12:48	dwihno	It would work, no?
16:15:18	Baka^Ni	bbl fellas off to lan
16:15:38	Baka^Ni	seriously, if you need any testing done, I will walk my box to death
16:15:38	Baka^Ni	=)
16:16:08	Zagor	dwihno: it could work.
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16:19:22	Unseen2	Hi! Any RSOD-experts online?
16:19:55	Zagor	rsod?
16:20:24	Unseen2	Oops. RLOD - Red LED Of Death.
16:21:02	Zagor	ah. you get it a lot?
16:21:14	Unseen2	Multiple times per day...
16:21:48	Zagor	could you try disabling resume and see if you notice a difference?
16:22:12	Unseen2	I just rigged the code in ata.c with some markers to see what it still does when it happens and tried adding few soft/hard resets - I think when my HD locks up it doesn't react to anything but a poweroff anymore.
16:22:24	Unseen2	I'll try that tomorrow...
16:22:50	Zagor	yes, it seems the disks enter a weird state. the question is how it gets there.
16:24:21	Unseen2	Did anyone try to take some statistics to see if it happens just to some of the HDDs? I only know people with Hitachis in their boxes and I think they all get RLODs.
16:24:47	Zagor	no comprehensive statistics. i run a toshiba and I never get it.
16:27:53	dwihno	My Hitachi disk has the problem, my old IBM didn't
16:33:27	Unseen2	Hmm, if I read my sparse notes right some RLOds happend with sleeping=true (ata.c), some with sleeping=false, don't know if this any help... Poweroff was disabled.
16:34:30	Zagor	how do you detect rlod? could you send me a patch with your instrumentation?
16:35:39	Unseen2	It's quite dirty, but sure... I added a 16 character array to ata.c which I fill with characters in some locations (cyclic buffer) and added two WPS indicators for the array and the number of hard resets my code generated.
16:36:12	Zagor	ok
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16:37:28	Unseen2	http://snowcat.de/rlod.patch
16:37:42	dw\|gone	I wish you good luck with finding the cure!
16:38:13	Zagor	thanks
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17:21:56	Unseen2	Disabling resume doesn't seem to change the RLOD-behaviour.
17:22:03	Zagor	ok. thanks.
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17:50:31	fraggle	hiya
17:53:18	hardeep	hi fraggle
17:53:32	hardeep	Zagor: welcome back. :)
17:53:39	fraggle	this isnt really rockbox related but you guys are probably fairly knowledgable about the archos
17:53:49	fraggle	any idea what a "HD register error" is
17:54:25	hardeep	fraggle: it can be any number of things... one of the more common is that the battery levels are low and the hard drive can't boot up
17:54:37	fraggle	thats what i thought
17:54:41	fraggle	but i charged the batteries last night
17:54:56	fraggle	and i took the batteries out and ran it on mains alone and it still happens
17:56:18	hardeep	fraggle: hmmmm, that's the only time i've seen it
17:56:23	fraggle	the backlight on the screen flickers a lot as well so i'm guessing its power related somehow
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17:56:41	hardeep	fraggle: you may want to search the mailing list archive and also the yahoo group, there's probably more info there
17:56:47	fraggle	my friend suggested it might be the voltage regulator
17:56:51	fraggle	ok, i'll have a look
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18:07:18	DropZone	anyone around?
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18:07:57	hardeep	DropZone: around where?
18:08:03	DropZone	here
18:08:18	hardeep	DropZone: oh, then, nope
18:08:59	DropZone	ok, thanks anyway
18:09:27	hardeep	DropZone: heh, i'm just being silly... go ahead and ask your question
18:11:35	DropZone	i know you were... actually, I think i just got it. Not sure why tho. Downloaded the latest daily build and got the dir buffer error... rebooted again and now everything is fine. Go figure.
18:12:09	hardeep	DropZone: the dir buffer error means you have more files in a directory then you're configured for
18:12:34	hardeep	DropZone: default is 400, does your root directory have more than that?
18:12:52	DropZone	way more, but I have it configured for 10000 or whatever the max is.
18:13:13	hardeep	DropZone: ah, okay.
18:13:31	hardeep	DropZone: oh, when you loaded the latest daily build, maybe your settings reset?
18:13:35	DropZone	tho... if i update my daily build, i probably have to reconfigure, huh?
18:14:23	hardeep	DropZone: yeah, if you haven't updated since middle of June then you'll have to reapply your config
18:14:47	Zagor	save it to a config file, then load it in the new version
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18:15:35	DropZone	well... ironically, i didnt do that, but its working.
18:16:31	DropZone	Ive seen some bad reviews on the Jukebox, people saying its fragile. Well, I left mine outside in the rain and hail for 2 days, let it dry out, and it works just fine. Go Archos!
18:19:05	hardeep	DropZone: heh, nice
18:19:15	Zagor	:-)
18:20:41	DropZone	I wasnt too worried, had the Circuit City warranty since I saw some flaky reviews. How do you back up a config?
18:21:02	Zagor	menu->general settings->write config file
18:21:45	DropZone	cool, thanks.
18:28:39	DropZone	have a good one guys...
18:28:45	DropZone	thanks for the help
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19:39:01	DBUG	Enqueued KICK Bluechip
19:39:01	Bluechip	still trying to find anyone who has done anything at all with the MAS so that I don't have to re-cover old ground - anyone in?
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19:42:47	Bluechip	test
19:42:58	Bluechip	there you mr hardeep - just to keep you happy :)
19:43:08	hardeep	er?
19:43:38	Bluechip	reconfigured trillian no to do this for you
19:44:16	Bluechip	now it just does this
19:44:25	hardeep	oh
19:44:44	Bluechip	mmmuusstt fixxxx buugggg in logggbbooottttt
19:45:50	Bluechip	what is "Alert Mode level"??
19:55:04	Zagor	huh?
19:55:39	Bluechip	in the IRC logs
19:57:43	Zagor	ah, that. it's it's an internal variable indicating how willing he is to kick, if he was op...
19:59:11	Bluechip	aha
19:59:18	Bluechip	that'll explain hardeeps comment
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19:59:43	Bluechip	i think logbot shoud resolve the problem, not complain about it ;)
19:59:50	#>>	"is a "dancer" bot, originally designed to defend channels against abuse" by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se)
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20:00:03	Zagor	hehe, kicking is solving it :-)
20:00:13	Bluechip	lol
20:00:32	Bluechip	makes more sense to me, just to "not log" the control sequences
20:00:50	Zagor	well the complaints isn't about the log, it's about the channel
20:01:37	Bluechip	in which case I fail to see the problem - unoffensive colouring of text makes conversations sooooo much easier to follow
20:02:08	Bluechip	anyways, ANY HARDCORE TECHIES IN?
20:02:37	Zagor	do I count? ;)
20:02:50	Bluechip	dunno - it would be cool if you did...
20:03:01	Bluechip	what do you know about the MAS?
20:03:25	Zagor	you want a list? ;)
20:03:40	Bluechip	nope, just "lots" would be a good start to the chat :)
20:03:55	Zagor	tell me what you need
20:04:03	Bluechip	okay....
20:04:19	Bluechip	I do not think that this chip is as uncrackable as people are making out...
20:04:40	Zagor	we never really said that, did we? it's just undocumented.
20:04:44	Bluechip	all we need is an example upload and we are 30% of the way there
20:05:08	Zagor	yes
20:05:30	Bluechip	Perhaps being told endlessly about how impossible it is when I have brought it up on previous occasions has tainted me
20:05:39	Unseen2	So, let's just reverse-engineer the firmware of all MAS-using MP3-players. ;-)
20:05:42	Bluechip	now there is the "terratec" player which does just that
20:06:01	Bluechip	I have some firmware upgrades for it
20:06:15	Bluechip	including some which suggest that they modify the upload code
20:06:21	Zagor	really? nice
20:06:55	Bluechip	I have looked at the code (hexed) and it seems to be unencrypted
20:07:01	Unseen2	Does Micronas produce any freely programmable DSPs? The MAS might use a similiar core.
20:07:18	Bluechip	another good idea, i had not previsouly considered
20:07:28	Bluechip	the core is 32-bit risc
20:07:37	Bluechip	so we have most of the instruction set down already!
20:07:49	Zagor	we do?
20:08:10	Bluechip	32bit instructions
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20:08:24	Bluechip	5 bits per register; three operator instructions
20:08:26	Bluechip	etc etc
20:08:55	Bluechip	my last big project was a documenting decompiler for the ESS 4318 - also RISK (mips) based
20:09:05	Bluechip	RISC
20:09:31	Zagor	sounds like you're the right guy for this
20:09:37	Unseen2	There are more 32 Bit RISC-Architectures than that, e.g. PPC, HPPA, Sparc.
20:09:52	Bluechip	yeah, but they're all pretty much the same beast
20:10:13	Bluechip	we need to do a patent trace on the chip and see where the core came from
20:10:50	Bluechip	we will also need someone who actually understands the maths
20:10:58	Bluechip	...that is where I back out
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20:11:34	Bluechip	CC243 Introduction to Matrix Arithmetic: 13% ....worst eman ever!
20:11:41	Bluechip	exam
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20:12:31	Zagor	hehe
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20:12:47	Zagor	i can't say that's my best field either...
20:12:50	Bluechip	so... what do we know to-date
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20:15:42	Unseen2	The data sheet mentions "...by downloading up to 4 kWords (1 Word = 20 bits) of program code...", that doesn't look like a 32 bit architecture.
20:16:26	Bluechip	no it doesn't, don't know where I got 32bits from then! hmmmmmm
20:16:49	Bluechip	so we WILL need to disassemble the terratec code to isolate the ucode
20:16:59	Bluechip	bugger!
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20:17:51	Bluechip	lets hope this terratec uses a cpu with docs
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20:19:44	[IDC]Dragon	Zagor has surfaced again, welcome back!
20:20:08	Zagor	thanks
20:20:31	[IDC]Dragon	Did you do the firmware upgrade of you diving computer?
20:21:04	Zagor	hehe, not yet ;)
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20:22:02	[IDC]Dragon	Seriously, there is a company who were withholding an upgrade because they were in merger talks, several people got injured by wrong decomp.
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20:22:30	Zagor	ouch
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20:23:59	[IDC]Dragon	Talking about Rockbox: I did a basic charging screen, and have some issues I'd like to ask.
20:25:39	[IDC]Dragon	For the FMs, the disk is always spinning because ide_power_enable() only works for recorder.
20:25:54	Zagor	ok
20:26:08	[IDC]Dragon	But it must be possible to spin it of without an ATA command, or?
20:26:34	Unseen2	IIRC yes.
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20:26:52	Bluechip	Well, let me know if you are interested in continuing the chat about the MAS sometime ....if not, it was good sharing ideas with you :)
20:26:52	[IDC]Dragon	Ah, do you know how?
20:27:09	[IDC]Dragon	Sorry, did I interrupt anything?
20:27:32	Bluechip	it's cool, just chattin' :)
20:27:44	Unseen2	I'd have to check the specs to tell you the details, but I know that hdparm on Linux has a "spin down now" option.
20:27:55	Zagor	Bluechip: well it seems we're still in the same spot right? we need to reveng the dsp code.
20:28:15	Zagor	no there is no way to spin down without sending a command
20:28:38	[IDC]Dragon	They don't have a power transistor?
20:28:40	Unseen2	BTW, on my Recorder 20 the charging screen hangs with a "Loading" box when I plug in USB and the charger in this order into the powered-off device.
20:28:49	Bluechip	z: yep, that's about it
20:28:51	Unseen2	[IDC]Dragon: SOrry, misread your statement.
20:29:01	Bluechip	z: but at least we now have some code to work with
20:29:28	Zagor	Unseen2: flashed or not?
20:29:36	Zagor	Bluechip: right
20:29:41	Unseen2	Flashed, 030720 I think.
20:29:52	[goon]	hmmm hi, i can't any hint about some troubles with my recorder 20go... anyone wanna help? ^^
20:30:03	Unseen2	Yes, 0720.
20:30:21	Bluechip	l8rz all
20:30:24	[IDC]Dragon	I just tried, works OK for me.
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20:32:18	[IDC]Dragon	Zagor, to issue an ATA command the disk must be spinned up?
20:32:20	[goon]	i used to have that save failed error so i formated the hard disk, but intead i have a blank screen when playing... does that remind any of you something?
20:35:20	Zagor	dragon: no, it doesn't have to be spinning. but most drives spin up directly when powered, unless explicitly configured not to
20:35:44	Zagor	[goon]: try pressing PLAY on your wps file again.
20:36:44	[IDC]Dragon	Zagor, do you think that's what the Archos charging screen does for the FM, issue a spindown right away?
20:37:45	[goon]	using the rolo? i did it, but same pb... :S
20:38:14	Zagor	i don't know. i haven't seen the FM charging screen (and it was ages since I saw the rec one)
20:38:24	Zagor	[goon]: no, play the WPS file not the firmware file
20:39:27	[IDC]Dragon	I should ask Stevie if he meanwhile can simulate that, if he shows up.
20:39:58	Zagor	dragon: have you gotten hold of an fm to test on?
20:41:12	[IDC]Dragon	I had one when I tried the flashing, before doing the FM release. Currently I don't.
20:41:43	[IDC]Dragon	(But I can ask my friend again, no general problem)
20:42:33	Unseen2	[IDC]Dragon: Your recorder isn't set to auto-resume - I can avoid the charging hang if I disable it.
20:43:20	[IDC]Dragon	Unseen: WHat was the scenario again?
20:43:52	Zagor	have we conclusively ruled out the option of fm simply having ata power-on on a different port pin?
20:44:05	Unseen2	0720 flashed, JBR off, insert USB, insert charger, Display shows charging screen with overlaid "Loading..." and hangs.
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20:45:58	[IDC]Dragon	Zagor: that's my point, maybe it has a transistor.
20:46:48	Zagor	ok. yes, stevie could help here
20:47:15	[IDC]Dragon	Unseen: I briefly get the charging screen, until the disk is ready, then USB mount as it should.
20:48:05	[IDC]Dragon	Zagor: haven't seen him since a while.
20:50:05	Zagor	perhaps he's on vacation
20:50:36	[IDC]Dragon	not uncommon these days...
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20:54:33	[IDC]Dragon	Zagor, about the plugin API: would it be possible to make it up- and downwards compatible? I mena, if you just add a function at the end, the "old" plugins could still work.
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20:58:21	hardeep	[IDC]Dragon: agreed, i posted a patch for this: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=775193&group_id=44306&atid=439120
20:59:51	[IDC]Dragon	Wow, how about that, Zagor?
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21:01:27	Zagor	the problem with that is it means we can never restructure the api or add new functions in the middle.
21:01:45	hardeep	Zagor: you can, that's why I added that second define
21:01:59	hardeep	Zagor: update that whenever you make a chance that breaks backwards compatibility
21:02:09	Zagor	ok, i haven't looked at your patch yet. doing it now.
21:02:28	[IDC]Dragon	Looks like exactly what I meant. Instead of comparing the version and fail if not equal, check against the last API break.
21:03:11	Zagor	looks like a good approach
21:09:17	[IDC]Dragon	This "getting the mp3 buffer" function is not yet in the plugin API, right?
21:09:36	Zagor	right
21:11:14	[IDC]Dragon	I did some measurements about UCL compress. On a PC it is 20x slower than decompress.
21:11:39	[IDC]Dragon	Should still be acceptable for a plugin, waiting like 5 seconds.
21:12:04	Zagor	umm, hardeep i don't see how plugin_get_buffer will actually work.
21:12:16	hardeep	Zagor: what's wrong?
21:12:22	hardeep	Zagor: it's been working for me.... =)
21:15:27	Zagor	hmm, maybe i'm thinking wrong.
21:15:42	Zagor	i'll get some food. back soon.
21:15:54	[IDC]Dragon	The text viewer could just claim all the plugin memory statically.
21:16:18	hardeep	[IDC]Dragon: yeah, it could... but this is easier
21:16:42	hardeep	[IDC]Dragon: and you don't have to worry about changing the size every time you change something in the code
21:17:19	hardeep	[IDC]Dragon: although the main reason I added the function was for the built-in modules to use... why waste the 32k :)
21:17:36	[IDC]Dragon	You can't use a linker symbol to determine your end?
21:18:18	Unseen2	I'm just reading through main.c/init()... It looks like a flashed Rockbox would refuse to fully start (and thus refuse USB mode) if the HDD has no FAT32 partitions?
21:19:49	hardeep	[IDC]Dragon: you can, this is just easier. I like easy :)
21:33:50	Zagor	actually you can't use a linker symbol, since this is code linked with rockbox and not the plugin
21:34:46	Zagor	so this is probably the only way.
21:36:57	[IDC]Dragon	Time to switch on the undiscovered MMU of the SH7034 and give each it's own virtual memory ;-)
21:38:57	Zagor	hehe
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21:47:14	[goon]	Zagor: i'm such a newbie, but i got it, thx a lot!!!
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21:49:08	Zagor	[goon]: ok, good
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21:55:23	scott666	can anyone help me in setting up a linux box?
21:55:58	Zagor	scott666: uh, try #linux
21:56:24	scott666	nah, i was just wondering
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22:58:04	tracktheripper	hi zagor
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23:01:05	Zagor	hi
23:04:17	scott666	hey track do you know anything about that terratec player?
23:10:39	tracktheripper	i can no longer find it
23:10:48	tracktheripper	but im certain it uses the same chip as the Archos
23:11:09	scott666	yeah, bluechip was looking for its firmware
23:11:17	scott666	hes determined to reprogram the MAS
23:11:52	tracktheripper	but you need special equipment not a PC to reprogram the MAS
23:12:05	Zagor	no
23:12:14	tracktheripper	yes
23:12:20	Zagor	eh, no
23:12:24	tracktheripper	why not?
23:12:30	Zagor	because it's programmable
23:12:47	tracktheripper	yes but none of you lot know how to program the damn thing :-)
23:12:50	Zagor	we just lack the documentation
23:13:00	tracktheripper	cool
23:13:03	scott666	thats what bluechip is looking for
23:13:18	scott666	something to reverse engineer to help us
23:13:21	tracktheripper	yea
23:13:30	tracktheripper	why do u wanna program the mas anyway?
23:13:35	tracktheripper	since no-one likes WMA
23:13:49	scott666	look at the nodo file
23:13:59	scott666	half of the things in it are about the MAS
23:14:13	tracktheripper	could it be programmed to play WAV?
23:14:25	scott666	yeah
23:14:27	Zagor	probably, yes
23:14:34	scott666	theoretically
23:14:52	tracktheripper	and could it be programmed to play ATRAC3, WMA, OGG, AAC and record in those formats?
23:15:31	Zagor	no, there's too little room for complex things
23:15:45	tracktheripper	ohhh
23:15:57	tracktheripper	so leave the poor old mas alone and let it happly play and record MP3
23:15:57	tracktheripper	:)
23:16:00	scott666	i dont think recording is controlled by the MAS
23:16:08	Zagor	yes it is
23:16:10	scott666	ok
23:16:53	tracktheripper	its only a chip not a butler :)
23:17:29	scott666	would it be possible to save configurations for it? like if you want to listen to ogg you can reprogram it for ogg?
23:18:33	Zagor	yes
23:18:43	Zagor	although ogg is very improbable
23:18:49	tracktheripper	could it be programmed to receive FM?
23:18:50	tracktheripper	:-)
23:19:02	scott666	lol
23:19:23	Zagor	no, only am :)
23:19:35	tracktheripper	grrrrrrr
23:19:41	scott666	lol
23:20:12	tracktheripper	Scott if you plug a sattelite modem and a dish into the USB u could receive MTV on ur Archos :-)
23:20:22	scott666	but why wouldnt an MP3 decoder be able to receive FM radio?
23:20:24	scott666	lol
23:20:41	scott666	wrong, the archos can only be a slave
23:20:59	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
23:20:59	*	tracktheripper gets his whip out and orders it to clean the house
23:21:16	scott666	your whip can clean?
23:21:37	*	tracktheripper gets his whip out and orders the Archos to clean the house since it can only be a slave
23:22:16	scott666	ahhh. gotcha
23:22:38	tracktheripper	well u said the archos is a slave
23:22:39	tracktheripper	:)
23:24:09	tracktheripper	Zagor why not use the 22 character cells on the Player for a sort of "panoramic" sliding puzzle? :-)
23:25:00	Zagor	feel free
23:25:29	tracktheripper	the New York skyline could be used as a pic (-:
23:25:35	scott666	but you can only have 4/8 new characeter at a time...i think
23:26:47	Zagor	correct
23:29:38	Zagor	594 unread mails in rockbox...
23:30:01	scott666	thats what you get for taking a vacation
23:30:02	scott666	heh
23:30:10	tracktheripper	Zagor when i tried to record digitally from my DVD player all i got was crackle
23:30:41	Zagor	there's a lot of things that can go wrong
23:31:12	scott666	do all recorders have digital in?
23:31:13	tracktheripper	don't we know it Zagor!!
23:31:21	tracktheripper	Too many "Works For Me" in bug reports!
23:31:40	Zagor	scott666: the fm lacks either digital in or out. i never remember which.
23:32:06	scott666	its in the faq, ill go look
23:32:13	tracktheripper	zag it has no difital out, only in
23:32:37	Zagor	ok
23:33:40	scott666	works for me
23:36:55	Zagor	digital out on fm?
23:37:55	scott666	no
23:38:12	scott666	nevermind
23:40:06	tracktheripper	lol
23:40:21	tracktheripper	they should do a realizer for JPEG "restore the pixels lost by the MP3 compression"
23:41:03	elinenbe	Zagor: when I tried to play my aac and wma files nothing happened. Rockbox is crap!
23:41:24	Zagor	yup. we officially suck.
23:41:24	scott666	lol
23:41:50	tracktheripper	elinenbe just rename the extension to .mp3
23:41:55	tracktheripper	then it will be recognised
23:50:17	Unseen2	I'm just looking at my disassembled JBR20 - is it just me or is the production quality of Archos quite bad? The CPU board sits inside at a slight angle because the USB connector is slightly too high...
23:52:36	Zagor	yeah, the production seems a bit flaky
23:53:41	tracktheripper	well mine works okay
23:53:43	tracktheripper	:)
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