| 00:00:09 | UncleSalty | i've spent hours already reading pages from the website and FAQs |
| 00:00:41 | scott666 | join the mailing list yet? |
| 00:00:49 | hardeep | UncleSalty: nice. :) |
| 00:01:10 | UncleSalty | i joined the announce and news lists |
| 00:01:33 | UncleSalty | considering joining the devel list |
| 00:03:27 | UncleSalty | this is one of the most in-depth and well-organized projects i've seen |
| 00:03:33 | UncleSalty | or been interested in at least |
| 00:03:50 | UncleSalty | great progress as far as i can tell! |
| 00:04:33 | scott666 | well yeah, considering they started from nothing |
| 00:04:55 | UncleSalty | exactly |
| 00:05:02 | UncleSalty | quite brilliant |
| 00:05:54 | UncleSalty | how do the daily builds now differ from version 2.0 ? |
| 00:06:28 | scott666 | new code, new features, new bugs |
| 00:06:39 | scott666 | makes life more interesting |
| 00:07:51 | UncleSalty | yeah... wow, i'm so excited. i love projects that have rapid development and i'll be able to update my rockbox all the friggin' time! |
| 00:09:22 | UncleSalty | i only know C++ but i'd like to get involved with development... i'll have to look at the code and see how foreign it looks |
| 00:25:22 | | Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@AC986066.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:25:48 | diddystar5 | hardeep: your patch is cool ;) |
| 00:26:40 | | Join Guest [0] (jirc@ACBEF9BE.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:26:45 | Guest | hello |
| 00:26:57 | Guest | will someone help me with rockbox |
| 00:27:05 | diddystar5 | yes |
| 00:27:10 | Guest | ok |
| 00:27:13 | Guest | for the player |
| 00:27:20 | Guest | i have a a archos studio 20 |
| 00:27:33 | Guest | is it possible to rename the files on the player with rockbox? |
| 00:27:52 | Guest | you like press the arrows buttons up and down to get each letter? |
| 00:27:59 | scott666 | highlight the file in the dir browser and press On+play |
| 00:28:17 | diddystar5 | scott666: yer just 2 fast ;) |
| 00:28:18 | Guest | and then u press up or down to rename it |
| 00:28:42 | scott666 | you use the keyboard...oh...right...you have a player |
| 00:28:55 | scott666 | ummm |
| 00:28:58 | diddystar5 | humm i think it is the same for the player... |
| 00:29:01 | Guest | so u can definelty rename files on the go without using a pc |
| 00:29:10 | scott666 | yeah |
| 00:29:14 | scott666 | just experiment |
| 00:29:16 | Guest | on the player |
| 00:29:16 | diddystar5 | try the on+play |
| 00:29:22 | scott666 | i have an FMR, so i dont know how to do it on hte player |
| 00:29:22 | Guest | ok cool |
| 00:29:26 | Guest | rockbox kicks ass |
| 00:29:46 | scott666 | yes it does |
| 00:29:58 | scott666 | especially in flash |
| 00:30:03 | Guest | the last firmware for archos is 5.7 and they havnt releaseed another one for ages |
| 00:30:16 | Guest | hey when will .wma support be avialble? |
| 00:30:22 | scott666 | never |
| 00:30:27 | diddystar5 | never |
| 00:30:30 | scott666 | underlined |
| 00:30:33 | diddystar5 | hehe see the FAQ |
| 00:30:34 | Guest | its say it will sometime |
| 00:30:41 | scott666 | no |
| 00:30:42 | scott666 | never' |
| 00:30:44 | scott666 | not by us |
| 00:30:53 | diddystar5 | wma isn't very good anyway |
| 00:30:55 | Guest | and how the hell do i register this copy? |
| 00:31:00 | Guest | i know |
| 00:31:06 | Guest | i have a convertor wma to mp3 |
| 00:31:24 | scott666 | even if we could prgram the MAS, WMA is closed source |
| 00:31:36 | Guest | how do i register this ? |
| 00:31:49 | diddystar5 | what do you mean by register? |
| 00:32:01 | Guest | like it keeps saying ask the webmaster |
| 00:32:08 | Guest | to register it |
| 00:32:32 | diddystar5 | not sure... |
| 00:32:48 | Guest | can u delete files on the player? |
| 00:33:27 | diddystar5 | yes i think it's a option when you press on+play |
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| 00:34:06 | | Join nevs [0] (jirc@ACBEF9BE.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:34:11 | nevs | hello |
| 00:34:16 | nevs | its me guest |
| 00:34:17 | diddystar5 | hey |
| 00:34:48 | diddystar5 | one sec and i can see on the simulator |
| 00:35:23 | nevs | how can i get the simulator? |
| 00:35:48 | diddystar5 | humm you need to know how to compile rockbox |
| 00:36:23 | nevs | so does the player now support plugins? |
| 00:36:28 | scott666 | yeah |
| 00:36:32 | diddystar5 | yes |
| 00:36:33 | scott666 | theres even a game |
| 00:36:44 | nevs | so what does that mean |
| 00:36:58 | diddystar5 | jackpot is the name of the game |
| 00:37:23 | nevs | what plugins can u get? |
| 00:37:37 | diddystar5 | humm helloworld and jackpot |
| 00:37:57 | diddystar5 | at the moment atleast |
| 00:37:59 | nevs | if i download rockbox, should i get v2 or the lastest daily build |
| 00:38:01 | scott666 | viewer |
| 00:38:18 | scott666 | both |
| 00:38:22 | scott666 | wait |
| 00:38:23 | nevs | what? |
| 00:38:34 | scott666 | no download 'full' from the daily builds page |
| 00:38:53 | scott666 | you need the .rockbox folder |
| 00:38:54 | nevs | okl |
| 00:39:05 | scott666 | but you can get that with the daily build now |
| 00:39:07 | nevs | hey by the way |
| 00:39:10 | diddystar5 | that gets you the .rockbox with plugins, languages... |
| 00:39:42 | nevs | at the moement im using a adapter which is not the normal one and its only 300ma power instead of 600ma , does that matter? |
| 00:40:02 | nevs | for my ac/dc charger plug |
| 00:40:09 | diddystar5 | only the charging time |
| 00:40:23 | nevs | cuase archos piss me off |
| 00:40:47 | diddystar5 | hehe mine came with a 15v 600mA |
| 00:40:56 | diddystar5 | 15v = bad |
| 00:41:35 | nevs | my original adaptor broke at the top of the charger becuase the wire frayed and then snapped, and i asked archos for new one but they need the whole package to be sent back, including player and stuff! |
| 00:42:02 | nevs | and then they give me new player just for a new adapter its crazy |
| 00:42:27 | diddystar5 | luckly i got a 4 year warrenty from bestbuy ;) and i'm now on my 3rd unit |
| 00:42:45 | nevs | lol!# |
| 00:43:07 | scott666 | 4 year? |
| 00:43:09 | nevs | no problems with my studio 20 so far, apart from battery power and the charger |
| 00:43:12 | diddystar5 | the first 2 had bad hdd's and they quit working |
| 00:43:15 | scott666 | they only offered my a 2 year |
| 00:43:39 | scott666 | and that was only a replacement plan |
| 00:44:18 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK nevs |
| 00:44:18 | nevs | and its bloody anyyoning on my player |
| 00:44:33 | diddystar5 | ill be wanting something new after that warrenty is over |
| 00:44:59 | nevs | when i fully charge it, so the battery bar is full, i connect it to the pc to transfer some songs, de connect it, turn it back on, battery charge has gone! |
| 00:45:10 | nevs | why! |
| 00:45:19 | scott666 | it takes energy to spin up the disk a lot |
| 00:45:37 | scott666 | keep it plugged in when you copy files |
| 00:45:37 | diddystar5 | you should leave the charger on while doing that |
| 00:45:40 | nevs | but not a full charge |
| 00:46:12 | nevs | does it aactually charge it while it says "usb active"? |
| 00:46:17 | diddystar5 | yep |
| 00:46:35 | diddystar5 | anytime you have it pluged in it's charging |
| 00:46:38 | nevs | didnt know that |
| 00:46:52 | UncleSalty | it actually charges from the USB power? |
| 00:47:11 | nevs | im ordering a universal adapter from archos for the player |
| 00:47:28 | diddystar5 | i mean pluged in the charger |
| 00:47:30 | nevs | it cant charge form usb power |
| 00:47:39 | scott666 | it charges VERY slow from the USB, but it does charge |
| 00:47:52 | diddystar5 | nevs: why buy it from archos? |
| 00:47:56 | nevs | does it!? |
| 00:48:07 | UncleSalty | okay i had heard something about that |
| 00:48:09 | nevs | no i got it from dabs |
| 00:48:09 | nevs | dabs.com |
| 00:48:38 | nevs | the universal power adapter for the players/recorders from dabs |
| 00:48:50 | nevs | £30 |
| 00:49:54 | nevs | im gonna go now |
| 00:50:06 | nevs | im gonna come here tomorow |
| 00:50:17 | nevs | rock box is so cool |
| 00:50:27 | nevs | apart from one thing persoanllt |
| 00:50:31 | nevs | personally* |
| 00:50:48 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 00:50:48 | * | diddystar5 waves buy |
| 00:50:58 | * | diddystar5 *bye |
| 00:51:02 | nevs | i prefers the WPC screen like the orignal archos |
| 00:51:13 | diddystar5 | you can do that i think |
| 00:51:23 | nevs | like bigger text , rock box is too small text |
| 00:51:36 | nevs | can u change to orignal style in rock box |
| 00:52:17 | diddystar5 | no not unless you were a good programmer ;) |
| 00:52:27 | nevs | damm |
| 00:52:32 | nevs | oh well |
| 00:52:45 | diddystar5 | gotta go bye |
| 00:52:45 | nevs | it still is alot fucking better than archos firmware |
| 00:52:56 | * | diddystar5 goes bye bye |
| 00:52:56 | nevs | me too i gtg cya tommorow |
| 00:52:58 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Gotta Go!") |
| 00:53:09 | nevs | bye everyone |
| 00:53:12 | | Quit nevs ("Leaving") |
| 00:55:14 | UncleSalty | peace out |
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| 01:04:09 | | Join Neo [0] (~Neo@209.187.167.213) |
| 01:04:10 | Neo | hey |
| 01:04:20 | scott666 | hey |
| 01:04:26 | Neo | i only get about 1-3 hours with my archos |
| 01:04:27 | Neo | :( |
| 01:04:33 | Neo | batterylife that is |
| 01:05:10 | bronson | Neo: which archos? |
| 01:05:12 | scott666 | yeah |
| 01:05:38 | bronson | Hey, is bookmarking in Rockbox 2.0? |
| 01:05:42 | bronson | I thought it was supposed to be... |
| 01:05:46 | scott666 | no |
| 01:05:53 | bronson | Rats. |
| 01:05:53 | scott666 | bookmarking isnt even in daily buils |
| 01:05:56 | scott666 | *builds |
| 01:05:56 | Neo | archos recorder 20 |
| 01:06:00 | scott666 | dont use 2.0 |
| 01:06:03 | scott666 | use a daily |
| 01:06:11 | scott666 | theres sooo many more features |
| 01:06:11 | bronson | Happy to do that. |
| 01:06:22 | bronson | Is there a patch for BM? |
| 01:06:35 | bronson | I've got a 200 hour audiobook. |
| 01:06:43 | bronson | Scanning in that is, erm, painful... |
| 01:07:03 | Neo | bronson: i have archos recorder 20 |
| 01:07:03 | bronson | s/200/20/ :) |
| 01:07:11 | Neo | and i only get about 1-3 hrs |
| 01:07:16 | bronson | Neo: Dunno then. |
| 01:07:22 | bronson | The battery should be pretty new. |
| 01:07:32 | bronson | It's too bad that Archos put a custom one in there. |
| 01:07:44 | bronson | Otherwise, you could just swap it out and see... |
| 01:08:06 | Neo | i still have the warranty |
| 01:08:10 | scott666 | he said recorder 20 |
| 01:08:15 | scott666 | he cause get new NiMHs |
| 01:08:18 | scott666 | *can |
| 01:08:24 | bronson | Er, right. |
| 01:08:30 | bronson | For some reason, i was picturing the FM. |
| 01:08:44 | Neo | should i get a new one |
| 01:08:46 | bronson | Batts for the recorder 20 are darned reasonable. |
| 01:08:46 | Neo | swap it out |
| 01:08:54 | bronson | Sure. |
| 01:08:55 | Neo | with the warranty? |
| 01:09:02 | bronson | Give it a shot. |
| 01:09:06 | Neo | i mean, how much battery life do u get |
| 01:09:07 | Neo | or |
| 01:09:08 | scott666 | try new batteries first |
| 01:09:16 | bronson | See how painful a warranty replacement is. |
| 01:09:29 | Neo | am i doing something thats draining the batteries |
| 01:09:42 | bronson | Check your settings. |
| 01:09:48 | bronson | How old is it? |
| 01:10:05 | Neo | less than 30 days |
| 01:10:07 | bronson | I have an R20 and after 1.2 years or so of heavy use, I get about 6 hours. |
| 01:10:16 | bronson | I got 10 new. |
| 01:10:30 | bronson | That's into some Sennheiser headphones though −− I'm sure that helps. |
| 01:10:30 | Neo | yeh |
| 01:10:44 | Neo | but ive only had it sum 25 days |
| 01:10:46 | Neo | less |
| 01:11:13 | bronson | I remember someone complaining about something like this on the Mailing list. |
| 01:11:26 | bronson | Archos swapped out his device and the problem went away. |
| 01:11:54 | bronson | Others have complained of Archos's abysmal support. |
| 01:12:03 | Neo | yeh |
| 01:12:04 | bronson | Either way, you're rolling the dice. :) |
| 01:12:10 | Neo | do u think im doing anything wrong though |
| 01:12:15 | Neo | i havnt really changed anything |
| 01:12:17 | Neo | using rombox |
| 01:12:27 | | Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) |
| 01:13:26 | scott666 | try charging with F1 |
| 01:13:50 | Neo | f1? |
| 01:14:32 | tpelliott | I finally took my Archos JBR20 apart to see how easy it would be to upgrade the hard drive. It wasn't too hard to get it apart (and back together). |
| 01:15:06 | Neo | what do u mean F1 scott? |
| 01:15:21 | Neo | charging wtih F1 |
| 01:15:29 | scott666 | if you boot with F1 you get the orginal firmware |
| 01:15:33 | tpelliott | hold F1 when plugging in the charger. |
| 01:15:41 | Neo | and? |
| 01:15:46 | scott666 | so hold f1 while you plug it in and you get the old charging screen |
| 01:16:03 | Neo | even with rombox |
| 01:16:04 | Neo | ? |
| 01:16:11 | Neo | ive charged with taht old screen all the time |
| 01:16:13 | Neo | same prob |
| 01:16:20 | scott666 | u sure? |
| 01:16:24 | Neo | yes |
| 01:16:33 | Neo | how long should i let it charge with the F1 |
| 01:16:36 | scott666 | then try getting new batteries |
| 01:16:38 | Neo | ill try it |
| 01:16:45 | Neo | how long |
| 01:16:46 | scott666 | with more mAh preferably |
| 01:16:57 | scott666 | overnight? |
| 01:17:43 | scott666 | id say 6-8 hours |
| 01:17:45 | scott666 | to be sure |
| 01:18:53 | Neo | ok |
| 01:19:01 | Neo | what about the backlight staying on all that long |
| 01:20:10 | scott666 | 1, the backlight doesnt take enough power to make a difference in charging |
| 01:20:19 | Neo | o |
| 01:20:27 | Neo | could it burn out |
| 01:20:30 | scott666 | 2, you can turn it off |
| 01:20:32 | scott666 | no |
| 01:20:40 | Neo | while charging that way? |
| 01:20:40 | scott666 | i doubt it anyway |
| 01:20:55 | Neo | it wont go off while charging F1 |
| 01:21:17 | scott666 | well it doesnt matter |
| 01:22:14 | Neo | can u though? |
| 01:23:26 | scott666 | i dunno |
| 01:23:31 | scott666 | but it doesnt make a difference |
| 01:23:50 | Neo | ok |
| 01:23:58 | Neo | ill let it charge over night |
| 01:24:07 | Neo | im actually thinking about going ipod scott |
| 01:25:19 | Neo | will i wanto do that?\ |
| 01:27:35 | scott666 | if you have the money and a mac |
| 01:27:39 | scott666 | and no soul |
| 01:27:40 | scott666 | lol |
| 01:27:48 | Neo | lol |
| 01:27:50 | Neo | alright |
| 01:27:56 | | Nick edx`out is now known as edx (edx@pD9EABAF0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:28:20 | Neo | ill let this charge |
| 01:28:35 | tpelliott | No Archos will turn off with the charger plugged in (hardware switch in socket). |
| 01:29:29 | Neo | it will turn off? |
| 01:29:46 | Neo | when its done charging |
| 01:30:23 | tpelliott | The charging will turn off, but not the entire unit. |
| 01:30:28 | Neo | ooo |
| 01:30:29 | Neo | soo |
| 01:30:34 | Neo | it will waste the power |
| 01:30:38 | Neo | casue it will stop charging |
| 01:30:42 | Neo | is that my problem? |
| 01:31:13 | Neo | that i let it charge |
| 01:31:22 | Neo | but i let it keep going and it wastes the power |
| 01:31:31 | tpelliott | Rockbox has a trickle charge to keep the batteries topped off. Make sure trickle charge is turned on. |
| 01:32:17 | Neo | and deep discharge off? |
| 01:35:41 | Neo | then do i let it charge with the F1 (old screen) or rockbox's charge |
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| 01:36:26 | tracktheripper | hey |
| 01:36:30 | Neo | hey |
| 01:36:37 | tracktheripper | whats up? |
| 01:36:49 | Neo | when trickle charge is on should i charge in the old screen or rockbox's screen |
| 01:37:26 | BoD[] | heyloo |
| 01:37:31 | tracktheripper | ello |
| 01:37:55 | tpelliott | I usually charge with the new Rombox charging screen. |
| 01:38:02 | tracktheripper | :D |
| 01:39:35 | Neo | rombox looks the same |
| 01:39:41 | Neo | am i correct? |
| 01:39:51 | tpelliott | If I upgrade my hard drive, I wander if Rombox will see a virgin blank hard drive and enable USB so I can format it as FAT32 in Windows over USB. |
| 01:40:16 | Neo | my rombox looks exactly the same |
| 01:40:30 | tpelliott | same as what? |
| 01:40:43 | Neo | old rockbox |
| 01:41:17 | tpelliott | No charging screen in old Rockbox. |
| 01:41:29 | Neo | theres a charging screen in rombox? |
| 01:41:36 | Neo | and does anything else look differnt |
| 01:42:15 | tpelliott | Do you have a newer daily build of Rombox? |
| 01:42:32 | | Quit _aLF ("bye") |
| 01:43:08 | Neo | no |
| 01:43:11 | Neo | how do i do taht |
| 01:43:14 | Neo | im new to rombox |
| 01:43:18 | Neo | good with old rockbox |
| 01:43:26 | tpelliott | Read the message archive. |
| 01:43:29 | Neo | new to rombox |
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| 01:58:48 | | Join Neo [0] (~Neo@209.187.167.213) |
| 01:58:50 | Neo | sorry guys |
| 01:58:53 | Neo | got disconnected |
| 01:59:02 | Neo | where can i get a daily build for rombox |
| 01:59:05 | Neo | or is there |
| 01:59:19 | scott666 | the daily build page |
| 01:59:32 | scott666 | downlaod a .ucl file and run rockbox_flash.rock |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:47 | Neo | o |
| 02:00:58 | Neo | do i put the .ucl in my root? |
| 02:01:36 | scott666 | yup |
| 02:01:55 | Neo | ive deleted the flash.rock |
| 02:02:02 | Neo | it sais to in the instructions |
| 02:02:10 | scott666 | no |
| 02:02:13 | scott666 | theres another file |
| 02:02:18 | scott666 | called rockbox_flash |
| 02:02:36 | Neo | ooo |
| 02:02:39 | scott666 | if you dont have it download the .rocks off the site |
| 02:02:41 | Neo | not firmware flash |
| 02:02:51 | Neo | the other 8 kb file |
| 02:02:55 | scott666 | well it is but only the second image |
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| 02:03:20 | Neo | so run rockbox flash? |
| 02:03:25 | scott666 | yup\ |
| 02:03:34 | Neo | and all of this in the root? |
| 02:03:55 | scott666 | it doesnt matter where the .rock is |
| 02:04:07 | scott666 | but the ucl file should be in the root and named rockbox.ucl |
| 02:04:25 | Neo | ok |
| 02:04:36 | Neo | and this wwont hurt my rom at all? |
| 02:04:40 | Neo | flashing every day? |
| 02:04:40 | scott666 | no |
| 02:04:50 | scott666 | unless you flash more than 100,000 times |
| 02:04:54 | Neo | haha |
| 02:05:01 | Neo | but i flash everyday? |
| 02:05:07 | Neo | with the new daily build? |
| 02:05:37 | scott666 | so youre only good for the next 273 years |
| 02:05:39 | scott666 | ....darn |
| 02:05:47 | Neo | darn? |
| 02:06:01 | scott666 | *sarcasm& |
| 02:06:02 | scott666 | * |
| 02:06:23 | Neo | o |
| 02:06:24 | Neo | ok |
| 02:06:31 | Neo | so do u recommend updating everyday |
| 02:06:34 | Neo | or like everyothe |
| 02:06:35 | Neo | r |
| 02:06:49 | scott666 | you should look at the change log |
| 02:06:56 | scott666 | cause if its 0 theres no point |
| 02:06:59 | Neo | ok |
| 02:07:12 | scott666 | but usually theres a new feature or bug fix every day |
| 02:07:31 | Neo | do they actually compile a new one everday |
| 02:07:36 | Neo | or its made by itself |
| 02:08:10 | scott666 | the daily builds are made every day at 6 |
| 02:08:24 | scott666 | bleeding edge updates every 20 minutes |
| 02:09:26 | Neo | bleeding edge? |
| 02:09:41 | scott666 | bottom of the daily build page |
| 02:10:02 | Neo | wats the point of those |
| 02:10:48 | ClosetPacifist | they're more uptodater :D so you can get the features that have been added since the last daily build |
| 02:11:03 | Neo | o |
| 02:11:08 | Neo | or wait till 6 the next day |
| 02:14:07 | Neo | it didnt work |
| 02:14:09 | Neo | i did |
| 02:14:13 | Neo | F1 to check |
| 02:14:17 | Neo | and F2 to program |
| 02:14:25 | Neo | and it is stil the old version |
| 02:14:42 | Neo | and i got an ATA error -32 |
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| 02:18:02 | corbell | heh, Hd register errors! |
| 02:18:05 | Neo | is that a problem? |
| 02:18:10 | Neo | for me |
| 02:18:11 | corbell | I do believe so |
| 02:18:19 | corbell | SC1 (85) 227 |
| 02:18:24 | corbell | SN1 (170) 0 |
| 02:18:26 | Neo | no, i have ATA error -32 |
| 02:18:32 | corbell | SC2 (170) 18 |
| 02:18:38 | corbell | SN2 (85) 211 |
| 02:18:40 | corbell | that's all the output |
| 02:18:44 | corbell | doesn't matter if it's plugged in or not |
| 02:22:22 | | Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") |
| 02:27:59 | corbell | heh |
| 02:28:02 | corbell | okay, there it goes |
| 02:28:53 | corbell | anyone know a good replacement paint for the recorder FM's paint? |
| 02:29:13 | corbell | the metallic paint over the metal part of the chassis has almost completely disappeared :P |
| 02:29:22 | corbell | across the back panel, at least. |
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| 02:31:30 | scott666 | you could just take off all of the paint with thinner |
| 02:31:54 | corbell | what kind of thinner? |
| 02:31:57 | corbell | anything specific? |
| 02:32:10 | scott666 | no |
| 02:32:14 | scott666 | i just heard someone did it |
| 02:32:15 | scott666 | well |
| 02:32:18 | scott666 | paint thinner |
| 02:32:18 | scott666 | lol |
| 02:32:43 | corbell | I could just make it ugly |
| 02:32:47 | corbell | and roll masking tape across it :P |
| 02:33:02 | corbell | more comfortable than crappy naked metal |
| 02:33:51 | scott666 | duct tape! |
| 02:33:54 | scott666 | lol |
| 02:34:09 | corbell | that's like using a sledgehammer to nail in a board :P |
| 02:34:21 | scott666 | so? |
| 02:34:31 | corbell | it's uglier |
| 02:34:34 | Neo | am i next in line scott? |
| 02:34:42 | scott666 | what line? |
| 02:34:45 | scott666 | line for what? |
| 02:34:47 | Neo | for problems |
| 02:34:53 | scott666 | ummmm |
| 02:34:57 | scott666 | yes? |
| 02:34:58 | Neo | :p |
| 02:35:00 | Neo | ok |
| 02:35:01 | Neo | a |
| 02:35:06 | Neo | are u ready for me? |
| 02:35:15 | scott666 | sure? |
| 02:35:18 | Neo | ok |
| 02:35:22 | Neo | i did wat u told me |
| 02:35:25 | Neo | the ucl |
| 02:35:27 | Neo | everything |
| 02:35:30 | scott666 | yeah |
| 02:35:36 | Neo | and, i get ATA error -32 |
| 02:35:39 | Neo | after i reboot |
| 02:35:41 | Neo | its fine |
| 02:35:47 | Neo | now i cant charge anymore though |
| 02:35:59 | scott666 | i have no idea |
| 02:36:02 | Neo | and im at 90 |
| 02:36:06 | corbell | kickass |
| 02:36:08 | Neo | i want to goto 100 |
| 02:36:13 | corbell | fixed a broken button on my recorder FM |
| 02:36:13 | scott666 | i have an FMR, i havn had any charging problems |
| 02:36:18 | corbell | and I managed to get rid of that thing :P |
| 02:36:21 | corbell | that 'issue' |
| 02:36:24 | corbell | so all is well |
| 02:36:44 | Neo | o |
| 02:36:49 | Neo | but u have rombox? |
| 02:37:00 | scott666 | yeah |
| 02:37:15 | scott666 | i reflashed today or yesterday, i hanvt had any problems |
| 02:37:21 | Neo | hmm |
| 02:37:25 | Neo | ok |
| 02:37:30 | Neo | do u charge up to 100? |
| 02:37:54 | Neo | caue it sais charging mode: not charging |
| 02:38:36 | Neo | and im at 91% |
| 02:39:27 | Neo | ? |
| 02:41:57 | Neo | ? |
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| 02:47:48 | Neo | anyone? |
| 02:47:51 | Neo | have a fix |
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| 05:56:56 | scott666 | hey earhurts |
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| 07:39:15 | scott666 | damn |
| 07:39:17 | scott666 | heh |
| 07:45:05 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 07:45:45 | scott666 | whats goin on? |
| 07:47:27 | PsycoXul | everything, all the time, as usual |
| 07:47:50 | scott666 | fun |
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| 11:37:04 | scott666 | u there track? |
| 11:45:41 | tracktheripper | yea |
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| 14:48:59 | nevs | anyone here |
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| 15:03:41 | earHurts | Who's here? |
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| 15:08:49 | nevs | is some one here |
| 15:08:58 | earHurts | Noooooooo..... |
| 15:08:59 | nevs | hello? |
| 15:09:03 | nevs | hello |
| 15:09:09 | earHurts | only ghoooosts |
| 15:09:14 | earHurts | what's up? |
| 15:09:15 | nevs | hello |
| 15:09:27 | nevs | do u know alot about rock box? |
| 15:10:01 | earHurts | I know a little |
| 15:10:06 | nevs | how likely is it that when i load rockbox it will lock my hard drive? i dont want to viod my warranty |
| 15:10:56 | nevs | ? |
| 15:11:24 | earHurts | It is loaded the same way that archos software updates are loaded |
| 15:11:41 | earHurts | it is unlikely to lock your drive. |
| 15:11:44 | nevs | so if my archos works now it will work with rock box |
| 15:11:53 | earHurts | yes |
| 15:12:00 | nevs | it better |
| 15:12:16 | earHurts | what sort of archos do you have? |
| 15:12:28 | nevs | studio 20 |
| 15:12:48 | earHurts | with the two line screen? |
| 15:13:07 | nevs | yes |
| 15:13:21 | nevs | archos stuido 20gb |
| 15:13:46 | earHurts | so you just follow the install instructions |
| 15:14:03 | nevs | yeah |
| 15:14:20 | nevs | im charging my player at the moment then when its done ill change firmware to rockbox |
| 15:14:27 | nevs | do u have a player? |
| 15:15:06 | earHurts | no, an fm recorder |
| 15:16:48 | nevs | uhh |
| 15:17:09 | earHurts | the rockbox software's a major improvement on the archos |
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| 15:18:14 | nevs | yeah |
| 15:19:16 | earHurts | do you write C? |
| 15:22:16 | nevs | no |
| 15:22:27 | nevs | c + + , cant be bothered |
| 15:23:45 | earHurts | well, i'm more of a c++ guy too |
| 15:24:06 | earHurts | nonetheless, you can hack the source |
| 15:24:23 | nevs | yeah |
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| 17:04:58 | Neo | hey |
| 17:05:01 | Neo | i have 2 probs |
| 17:05:02 | earHurts | hey |
| 17:05:14 | Neo | hey |
| 17:05:17 | Neo | first problem |
| 17:05:18 | earHurts | me too |
| 17:05:26 | Neo | it doenst seem my rockbox keeps charge overnigth |
| 17:05:28 | earHurts | my gf is returning ny calls |
| 17:05:33 | Neo | lol |
| 17:05:47 | earHurts | what kind of archos? |
| 17:05:54 | Neo | recorder 20 |
| 17:06:05 | Neo | well, it first doenst charge over 85 |
| 17:06:10 | Neo | which i read is ok |
| 17:06:16 | Neo | annoying, but its supposed to do that |
| 17:06:22 | earHurts | it does, but not aggresively |
| 17:06:26 | Neo | then i have 100, turn off archos, wake up and i have 70 |
| 17:06:40 | earHurts | that's the battery code |
| 17:06:52 | Neo | its the percentage left |
| 17:07:04 | earHurts | it's not always right |
| 17:07:09 | Neo | alright |
| 17:07:21 | Neo | uh, if i put in my charger over 85 |
| 17:07:26 | earHurts | do this |
| 17:07:30 | Neo | it is charging but slowly, so i wont lose any power? |
| 17:07:32 | Neo | ok |
| 17:07:38 | earHurts | track the voltage |
| 17:07:42 | Neo | how |
| 17:08:00 | Neo | on the batter screen it sias charge: not charging |
| 17:08:01 | earHurts | menu/debug/view battery/page down |
| 17:08:06 | Neo | and 5.27 volts |
| 17:08:08 | Neo | ok |
| 17:08:38 | Neo | den wat |
| 17:08:40 | earHurts | now, that will decrease some overnight, but not too much if it's off |
| 17:08:54 | earHurts | see if that does down overnighr |
| 17:09:00 | Neo | its 5.23 volts |
| 17:09:24 | Neo | if my charger is on |
| 17:09:28 | earHurts | ok, turn it off, and check it 8 hours from now |
| 17:09:33 | Neo | im not losing any power, right |
| 17:09:35 | Neo | alright |
| 17:09:39 | Neo | and wat should happen |
| 17:09:55 | earHurts | we hope the voltage goes down only a little |
| 17:10:12 | Neo | ok |
| 17:10:14 | earHurts | in other words, ignore the battery percent |
| 17:10:27 | Neo | but wat if its 87 and i want 100 for a trip the next day |
| 17:10:34 | Neo | my trickle charge doenst seem to work |
| 17:11:01 | earHurts | try turning off trickle charge |
| 17:11:15 | Neo | off? |
| 17:11:28 | earHurts | there's a setting for it, I believe |
| 17:11:34 | Neo | yeh |
| 17:11:36 | Neo | its off now |
| 17:11:47 | Neo | deep discharge on? |
| 17:11:49 | Neo | or off? |
| 17:12:10 | earHurts | off |
| 17:12:13 | Neo | ok |
| 17:12:14 | Neo | so both off |
| 17:12:22 | Neo | and it will charge over 85? |
| 17:12:41 | earHurts | deep discharge allows the battery to get really low before charging it |
| 17:12:55 | Neo | o |
| 17:12:55 | earHurts | so as to prevent battery memory problems |
| 17:12:56 | Neo | ok |
| 17:13:02 | Neo | ok |
| 17:13:06 | Neo | well let it charge |
| 17:13:10 | earHurts | now, you may get memory probs |
| 17:13:17 | Neo | alright |
| 17:13:25 | Neo | see, yesturday i went on a trip |
| 17:13:29 | Neo | strted with 100 |
| 17:13:37 | Neo | listened to maybe 30 minutes |
| 17:13:41 | Neo | and it was down to 40 |
| 17:13:48 | Neo | and kept going down the more i listened |
| 17:13:53 | earHurts | the percentage can be very misleading |
| 17:14:03 | Neo | but i still have actually power? |
| 17:14:08 | Neo | why cant it be more accurate? |
| 17:14:09 | earHurts | try checking the voltage |
| 17:14:35 | Neo | the graph? |
| 17:14:49 | earHurts | it's difficult becuase voltage use depends on charge level and user axtions |
| 17:15:11 | Neo | wehn u say voltage |
| 17:15:21 | Neo | where do u want me to look, the graph? |
| 17:15:42 | earHurts | nope |
| 17:15:54 | Neo | where |
| 17:15:56 | earHurts | go to the graph, the hit the down key |
| 17:16:07 | Neo | yeh |
| 17:16:11 | Neo | then i get more options |
| 17:16:15 | Neo | which one do i look at |
| 17:16:21 | earHurts | battery |
| 17:16:33 | scott666 | (the one with a V after it) |
| 17:16:40 | earHurts | yeah |
| 17:16:44 | earHurts | V for volts |
| 17:16:44 | Neo | alright |
| 17:16:59 | Neo | ok |
| 17:17:06 | Neo | how will that tell me how much power i have |
| 17:17:13 | Neo | its at about 4.46 |
| 17:17:20 | Neo | now 5.47 |
| 17:17:26 | earHurts | well, you have a recorder |
| 17:17:33 | Neo | eys |
| 17:17:43 | earHurts | I don't know when recorders stop |
| 17:17:53 | earHurts | fms stop at < 2 volts |
| 17:17:54 | Neo | hmm |
| 17:17:55 | scott666 | what are nimh cells each? 1.4V or something? |
| 17:17:57 | Neo | they stop at 85 |
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| 17:18:10 | Neo | it stops charging at 85 |
| 17:18:19 | scott666 | 85 what? |
| 17:18:20 | Neo | i just wanto know when i have 100% power |
| 17:18:22 | Neo | and such |
| 17:18:23 | earHurts | no, I mean when it shuts down |
| 17:18:27 | Neo | 85 % |
| 17:18:35 | scott666 | no |
| 17:18:47 | earHurts | no, I mean when it stops playing and turns itself off |
| 17:19:01 | Neo | o |
| 17:19:02 | Neo | um |
| 17:19:03 | Neo | never? |
| 17:19:06 | scott666 | when your batteries are run all the way down |
| 17:19:11 | Neo | i turn it off |
| 17:19:17 | Neo | o, its never run all the way down |
| 17:19:26 | earHurts | fms turn themslves off |
| 17:19:27 | scott666 | the voltage where the batteries cant support the archos anymore |
| 17:19:32 | Neo | should i run it all the way down before charging? |
| 17:19:35 | earHurts | at < 2 volts |
| 17:19:47 | Neo | i just think taht my archos cant keep a good charge |
| 17:19:48 | Neo | :( |
| 17:19:50 | earHurts | that's what deep discharge does |
| 17:20:14 | Neo | i might exchange it for a new one |
| 17:20:17 | scott666 | youre sure it isnt hte batteries? |
| 17:20:31 | scott666 | you can just replace the batteries...with better ones |
| 17:20:35 | Neo | if its the batteries then ill switch it for a new one |
| 17:20:35 | scott666 | for < $20 |
| 17:20:43 | Neo | yeh, i rather get a new one |
| 17:20:50 | Neo | i have the warranty still |
| 17:21:01 | earHurts | on the fm, it's rare to see the battery % over 80 excwpt immediately after charging |
| 17:21:09 | scott666 | no it isnt |
| 17:21:10 | scott666 | lol |
| 17:21:19 | earHurts | is for me |
| 17:21:26 | Neo | so, ill swap it out, see if its a difference |
| 17:21:38 | Neo | my other problem, i cant updgrade today's daily build |
| 17:21:39 | scott666 | thats what i like about the FM |
| 17:21:43 | Neo | it said version mismatch |
| 17:21:47 | scott666 | all the charging is done internally |
| 17:21:58 | earHurts | did you get today's rocks? |
| 17:21:59 | scott666 | it never has this kinda problem |
| 17:22:09 | Neo | and when i do upgrage (like yesturday) i get ata error -32 |
| 17:22:13 | Neo | but then its fine |
| 17:22:15 | scott666 | in flash? |
| 17:22:19 | Neo | yeh |
| 17:22:26 | Neo | does that error mean anything? |
| 17:22:36 | earHurts | the ata error happens with flash |
| 17:22:46 | earHurts | learn to live with it |
| 17:22:48 | Neo | with everyone? |
| 17:23:06 | scott666 | you need the rockbox_flash.rock from when you last flashed your archos, and then the new .rocks afterwards so you can use them with the newly flashed firmware |
| 17:23:30 | Neo | its on my archos already |
| 17:23:39 | Neo | ok |
| 17:23:43 | Neo | so i need the new ucl |
| 17:23:45 | Neo | and the new rocks |
| 17:25:49 | scott666 | and the old flashrock |
| 17:25:55 | Neo | yeh |
| 17:25:57 | Neo | same problem |
| 17:26:04 | earHurts | the OLD rock? |
| 17:26:07 | Neo | incompatable version |
| 17:26:15 | Neo | i use rockbox_flash.rock |
| 17:26:36 | scott666 | you need the compatable versiom of flashrock |
| 17:26:40 | Neo | ooo |
| 17:26:43 | Neo | where do i get that |
| 17:26:50 | scott666 | one that can work with the flashed firmware |
| 17:27:13 | Neo | where can i get the new .rock |
| 17:27:14 | scott666 | find out your version and get the rocks for that day |
| 17:27:40 | Neo | ok |
| 17:27:41 | Neo | yes |
| 17:27:44 | Neo | i have the new .ucl |
| 17:27:47 | Neo | and the new rock |
| 17:27:47 | Neo | s |
| 17:27:49 | Neo | then |
| 17:30:19 | Neo | ? |
| 17:30:34 | earHurts | run the rock? |
| 17:31:18 | Neo | the old one? |
| 17:31:25 | Neo | the rockbox_flash.rock |
| 17:31:31 | Neo | then i get the error |
| 17:32:15 | Neo | the |
| 17:32:20 | Neo | incompatable version |
| 17:32:42 | scott666 | then youre (obviously) not using hte right version |
| 17:32:57 | scott666 | you need the rock from the same day as your build |
| 17:33:10 | scott666 | and if its different it wont work |
| 17:33:11 | Neo | yeh |
| 17:33:15 | Neo | where do i ge that |
| 17:33:33 | scott666 | the daily build page has hte last ~7 days |
| 17:33:39 | Neo | yeh |
| 17:33:46 | scott666 | so find out your version (version screen) |
| 17:33:48 | Neo | i can find everything but the new rock |
| 17:33:55 | scott666 | and download the .rocks for that day |
| 17:34:24 | Neo | i did |
| 17:34:34 | Neo | is the rock in there? |
| 17:34:37 | scott666 | unzip them |
| 17:34:46 | Neo | ooo |
| 17:34:47 | Neo | i see |
| 17:34:49 | Neo | it is in there |
| 17:34:53 | scott666 | *sigh* |
| 17:34:58 | Neo | sorry |
| 17:35:08 | scott666 | lol |
| 17:35:36 | scott666 | 'what? you mean i have UNZIP the zip file??' |
| 17:35:43 | scott666 | :-þ |
| 17:35:49 | Neo | lol |
| 17:35:50 | Neo | no |
| 17:35:56 | Neo | i didnt know that the rock was in there |
| 17:35:58 | Neo | thats all |
| 17:36:35 | Neo | ok |
| 17:36:40 | Neo | and i didnt get the error |
| 17:37:02 | Neo | now my rockbox sais 100 |
| 17:37:05 | Neo | its been charging |
| 17:37:13 | Neo | should i let it run playing |
| 17:37:25 | Neo | and see how long it lasts? |
| 17:37:27 | Neo | or wat |
| 17:37:30 | Neo | just trust it? |
| 17:39:37 | scott666 | how longs it been charging? |
| 17:40:16 | Neo | not that long |
| 17:40:31 | Neo | see, im not sure how long i need to charge it because the numbers are soo screwy |
| 17:40:33 | Neo | :p |
| 17:40:49 | scott666 | thats why its good to charge overnight |
| 17:40:55 | scott666 | you cant see it saying it says 100 |
| 17:41:14 | scott666 | did you charge with archos or with rockbox? |
| 17:41:32 | Neo | rockbox |
| 17:41:42 | Neo | but when i charge overnight, it stops at 100 |
| 17:41:50 | Neo | then starts using the power |
| 17:42:02 | Neo | i would like it to turn itself off when its fully done |
| 17:42:13 | scott666 | you want trickle on |
| 17:43:02 | scott666 | trickle (almost) constantly charges so the battery stays up |
| 17:43:24 | Neo | okok |
| 17:43:43 | Neo | but whoever i was talking with told me that i want both things off |
| 17:43:46 | scott666 | BUT theres a problem with rockbox charging at the moment |
| 17:43:49 | scott666 | something with the inits |
| 17:43:57 | Neo | o |
| 17:43:57 | Neo | really? |
| 17:44:07 | scott666 | so use archos' charger and see what happens |
| 17:44:10 | earHurts | that was me. I was probebly wrong about trickle charge |
| 17:44:22 | Neo | o |
| 17:44:23 | Neo | ok |
| 17:44:31 | Neo | but the screen stays on all night |
| 17:44:34 | scott666 | hold F1 while you plug in the power cord |
| 17:45:02 | Neo | i kno |
| 17:45:12 | Neo | the backlight stays on |
| 17:45:19 | Neo | any way of turning it off? |
| 17:45:42 | earHurts | there was, but I think it doesn't work with flash? |
| 17:45:49 | Neo | o |
| 17:45:49 | Neo | ok |
| 17:45:50 | scott666 | no but the backlight doesnt take a significant amount of power |
| 17:46:05 | earHurts | but it's annoying |
| 17:46:18 | scott666 | put something over it |
| 17:46:22 | scott666 | or turn it upside down |
| 17:46:59 | Neo | ok |
| 17:47:00 | Neo | lol |
| 17:47:05 | Neo | yes, it is annoying |
| 17:47:18 | Neo | so, over night, upside down, trick charrge on, deep discharge off |
| 17:47:38 | scott666 | yeah |
| 17:47:57 | Neo | ok |
| 17:48:02 | scott666 | or for atleast 6 hours while youre awake |
| 17:48:08 | Neo | awake? |
| 17:48:21 | scott666 | not overnight |
| 17:48:28 | scott666 | (assuming you sleep at night) |
| 17:48:30 | Neo | u said overnight |
| 17:48:31 | Neo | yes |
| 17:48:39 | Neo | i should be awak when it charges |
| 17:48:49 | scott666 | it doesnt matter |
| 17:48:54 | Neo | alright |
| 17:49:02 | Neo | just wake up after 6 and turn it off |
| 17:49:07 | scott666 | just let it charge for at least 6 hours |
| 17:49:14 | scott666 | no |
| 17:49:20 | scott666 | just let it charge |
| 17:49:28 | Neo | ok |
| 17:49:34 | Neo | ill let it charge now |
| 17:49:35 | scott666 | for a minimum of 6 hours |
| 17:49:42 | scott666 | longer is fine |
| 17:50:02 | Neo | hey |
| 17:50:07 | Neo | i cant goto the archos charge |
| 17:50:09 | Neo | screen |
| 17:50:16 | Neo | its at the rockbox charge screen |
| 17:50:16 | scott666 | why not? |
| 17:50:20 | Neo | and wen i press F1 |
| 17:50:26 | Neo | it just blinks on and off |
| 17:50:29 | scott666 | unplug it and turn it off |
| 17:50:36 | Neo | ok |
| 17:50:38 | Neo | then |
| 17:50:40 | scott666 | hold F1, then plug in the charger |
| 17:50:44 | Neo | ok |
| 17:51:05 | Neo | will trickle charge effect the archos charge screen? |
| 17:51:22 | scott666 | i have no idea |
| 17:51:44 | Neo | ok |
| 17:51:51 | Neo | in other words chek it after 6 hrs |
| 17:52:09 | scott666 | yeah |
| 17:52:12 | Neo | ok |
| 17:52:21 | scott666 | but you dont need to set an alarm or anything |
| 17:52:22 | scott666 | lol |
| 17:52:29 | Neo | trickle charge only effects rockbox charge screen |
| 17:52:34 | scott666 | just anywhere after 6 hours will be fine |
| 17:52:47 | Neo | but its normal that it wont charge after 85%, right? |
| 17:52:59 | scott666 | maybe |
| 17:53:03 | scott666 | whered you hear that? |
| 17:53:11 | Neo | on the documentation |
| 17:53:17 | scott666 | then yes |
| 17:53:31 | Neo | that its made so it wouldnt charge over 85 becuse it could overload the batteries or something |
| 17:53:35 | Neo | its really annoying |
| 17:53:39 | * | scott666 is soo glad FMRs dont have these kind of problems |
| 17:53:53 | Neo | but then if i need it 87-10 ill use the archos charge |
| 17:54:11 | scott666 | and if archos breaks it theyll fix it |
| 17:54:31 | Neo | who? |
| 17:54:39 | Neo | archos will fix it |
| 17:54:56 | scott666 | if their firmware breaks your archos, yes |
| 17:55:06 | scott666 | but it probably wont |
| 17:55:10 | Neo | ok |
| 17:55:19 | Neo | and im still parrinoid about my play button |
| 17:55:23 | Neo | it wiggles |
| 17:55:24 | Neo | urs? |
| 17:57:07 | scott666 | *doesnt have a rec##) |
| 17:57:19 | scott666 | i have an FMR |
| 17:57:58 | scott666 | but the buttons do wiggle a bit |
| 17:58:15 | Neo | ok |
| 17:58:17 | Neo | how bad |
| 17:58:23 | Neo | like a loose tooth? |
| 17:58:26 | Neo | lol |
| 17:58:27 | Neo | :p |
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| 18:04:41 | Neo | huh/ |
| 18:06:12 | scott666 | yeah |
| 18:06:14 | scott666 | sure |
| 18:12:10 | Neo | ok |
| 18:12:17 | Neo | 1 mor question |
| 18:12:26 | Neo | whta if my archos is already almost full |
| 18:12:32 | Neo | and i charge it for 6 more hours |
| 18:12:36 | Neo | will it do any damage? |
| 18:12:56 | Neo | like what if its actually 3/4 full |
| 18:12:58 | Neo | doenst say it is |
| 18:13:02 | Neo | but it is |
| 18:13:12 | Neo | and i charge it for the 6 hrs u say |
| 18:13:22 | Neo | will it over load the batteries or anything like tht? |
| 18:20:16 | scott666 | trickle charge lets it run down until you can charge again, then does it |
| 18:20:24 | scott666 | so no |
| 18:21:40 | Neo | but im now charging with the archos chare screen |
| 18:29:14 | Neo | ? |
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| 18:46:01 | earHurts | hardeep, what do you know about reading the keys? |
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| 19:27:43 | paulheu | Any 'charging specialists' here? |
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| 20:01:23 | Bluechip | still on my endeavour to sort things out here ...I've read back over a rather long conversation, and think I've sussed the problem ...Am I correct when I say "the simulator does not support .rock plugins"? |
| 20:02:07 | hardeep | Bluechip: both the win32 and x11 simulators build their own version of .rock files that do work |
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| 20:02:22 | hardeep | Bluechip: and can be used for testing |
| 20:02:25 | Bluechip | darn! back to square one :( |
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| 20:03:49 | Bluechip | think I'll stick to writing for the old version - i can get that to work - if anyone else wants my code they can port it themselves :) |
| 20:04:24 | carwash^ | Does the rockboxx firmware work with the jukebox 15? |
| 20:04:27 | hardeep | Bluechip: it's really not that hard... as i told you yesterday, you need to download one new package for cygwin and you can build them |
| 20:04:34 | hardeep | carwash^: yes |
| 20:05:24 | carwash^ | hardeep: thanks, thats what i thought, but it wasn't stated in the FAQ |
| 20:06:03 | Bluechip | hd: yeah - any number of times, perhaps if I could find someone helpful who would send me these files I would have them - but sadly that person does not exist |
| 20:06:24 | hardeep | carwash^: it's stated on the front page. :) "Rockbox is an Open Source replacement firmware for the Archos Jukebox 5000, 6000, Studio, Recorder and FM Recorder MP3 players." |
| 20:06:46 | hardeep | Bluechip: www.cygwin.com, it's not too difficult to download them |
| 20:07:08 | Bluechip | hd: shall we just keep going around in circles whereby you say the same thing, and then I say the same thing back to you? |
| 20:07:27 | Bluechip | why is it so horrifically difficult to just send the damn files over? |
| 20:07:35 | Bluechip | i shall explain for you again.... |
| 20:07:37 | carwash^ | hardeep: yes, but only the recorder 20 was mentioned in the FAQ, that's why i wondered. Guess i'll just have to go buy myself one now |
| 20:07:39 | hardeep | Bluechip: i don't understand what the problem is... you don't need to use the cygwin installer to download them |
| 20:07:43 | Bluechip | the cygwin setup util trashes my machine |
| 20:07:49 | Bluechip | i will NOT run it again! |
| 20:07:52 | hardeep | Bluechip: then don't use it |
| 20:08:18 | hardeep | Bluechip: you just need one package, see the cygwin faq on how to install it without the setup program |
| 20:08:41 | Bluechip | your blindingly helpful RTFF also led me no-where, perhpas I should have less to do with my life - let's have this conversation again sometime |
| 20:09:36 | Bluechip | Hardeep: i am glad you have no problems - i am soo mind-numbingly happy for you - could you repeat the same answers for me one more time before I get bored |
| 20:10:04 | Bluechip | then perhaps you will let someone else give me an answer which actually helps me |
| 20:10:27 | Bluechip | RTFF is *not* helpful |
| 20:10:43 | Bluechip | i have no idea who told it was, but they were lying to you and you bought it! |
| 20:12:06 | Bluechip | Hardeep: so come on then Mr I Know Everything But Aren't Going To Actually Going To Anything But Repeat Myself Endlessly - WHERE are these files - ........or don't you know!? |
| 20:12:24 | Bluechip | I bet you don't actually know! |
| 20:12:39 | Bluechip | I reckon you're just blagging it Hardeep |
| 20:12:53 | Bluechip | I'd be surprised if you even have copies of these files yourself |
| 20:13:06 | hardeep | Bluechip: i've never added anyone to my kill file until now |
| 20:13:14 | Bluechip | byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 20:13:31 | Bluechip | glad to see the back of mr RTFF |
| 20:14:59 | Bluechip | Seems I was right though - LOL |
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| 21:27:11 | Bluechip | FYI: Don't seem to able to access rockbox.haxx.se atm. I have, otherwise, full internet access, so I am ugesing this problem is at the rockbox end ...just a report |
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| 21:59:33 | earHurts | anybody here? |
| 21:59:44 | Bluechip | no ;) |
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| 22:00:13 | earHurts | how's cygwin treating you? |
| 22:00:31 | Bluechip | you can probably smell the steam coming from my ears from where you are |
| 22:01:10 | earHurts | don't worry mate, I've just been dumped and downsized |
| 22:01:10 | Bluechip | I finally hunted down copies of the files that would allegedly fix the problem - and the file to fix the next problem and I am stuck at the next problem |
| 22:01:19 | hardeep | earHurts: in answer to your mailing list question: button_get() will block until a button is pressed |
| 22:01:53 | earHurts | it's always the next problem |
| 22:02:06 | Bluechip | eh: if I recall correctly it is button_get(true) to wait for a keypress |
| 22:02:07 | earHurts | hardeep, it's that simple? |
| 22:02:25 | Bluechip | i think button_get(false) just get what is waiting |
| 22:02:38 | hardeep | earHurts: yep, there is also button_get_w_tmo() if you want to specify a timeout |
| 22:03:07 | earHurts | if only there were new_girlfriend and new_job functions that easy |
| 22:03:13 | Bluechip | othelo has code which will loop until tmo or keypress |
| 22:03:37 | Bluechip | eh: real sorry to hear you crap news dude :( |
| 22:04:32 | earHurts | I just offer it to make your cygwin problems seem better |
| 22:04:53 | Bluechip | lol - cheers - it worked |
| 22:05:04 | earHurts | and she tells me after I've arranged a lovely picnic of organic fruits |
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| 22:05:39 | earHurts | ok hardeeps, cheer me up some more: how can I turn the screen off entirely? |
| 22:06:03 | Bluechip | you can clear the screen easily enough |
| 22:06:05 | hardeep | earHurts: do you mean clear it? |
| 22:06:26 | earHurts | no, turn it off. |
| 22:06:32 | Bluechip | the lights? |
| 22:06:40 | earHurts | the screen |
| 22:07:03 | hardeep | earHurts: oh, hmmm, i don't believe anything exists to do that |
| 22:07:11 | Bluechip | confused: I don't think you can - but I'm not sure why you would want to? |
| 22:07:14 | earHurts | cause power not to flow to it, that sort of thing |
| 22:07:15 | hardeep | earHurts: why do you want to shut it off? |
| 22:07:22 | Bluechip | ahhhhhh |
| 22:07:39 | earHurts | well, ok, I'll just blank it then |
| 22:08:09 | earHurts | I wish to do this becuase I discovered something interesting |
| 22:08:16 | Bluechip | lcd_clear_display(); |
| 22:08:26 | earHurts | in the midst of the pathos of my personal life: |
| 22:08:36 | Bluechip | ...then you must |
| 22:08:36 | Bluechip | lcd_update(); |
| 22:08:48 | earHurts | when I'm on the battery screen, rather than the wps |
| 22:09:04 | earHurts | I get about 1/3 more battery time |
| 22:09:24 | earHurts | thus my plan: a "screensaver" |
| 22:09:51 | Bluechip | hmmm, i would guess that it would be the maths that cause the power drain rather than the screen |
| 22:10:22 | earHurts | and the scrolling and the dB bars |
| 22:10:52 | Bluechip | yep, but the maths behins creating that data - rather than the action of maintaining the display |
| 22:11:00 | earHurts | so I'll also call, uh, set_scroll_off |
| 22:11:24 | earHurts | yes, I assume the maths have to do with it as well. |
| 22:12:13 | earHurts | can I putback the button press I get? |
| 22:12:40 | earHurts | and anyway, the wps thread isn't the one getting the volume buttons, at least |
| 22:12:49 | Bluechip | hmmm, good Q, sadly "don't know" - not tried that before :( |
| 22:13:11 | earHurts | as sleeping the wps thread doesn't affect volume |
| 22:37:48 | earHurts | how many ticks in a second? |
| 22:38:11 | Bluechip | HZ |
| 22:38:22 | earHurts | oh right |
| 22:38:27 | Bluechip | :) |
| 22:42:01 | Bluechip | any idea what this could mean? : /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-mingw32/3.2/dllcrt2.o(.text+0x77):dllcrt1.c: undefined reference to `_pei386_runtime_relocator' |
| 22:43:20 | earHurts | well, it wants to link to something |
| 22:43:50 | earHurts | what, precisely, I don't know |
| 22:44:04 | earHurts | are you compiling it from a make file? |
| 22:44:32 | Bluechip | This is all to do with me trying to fix the rockbox sdk |
| 22:44:59 | Bluechip | it just doesn't compile the code any more |
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| 23:22:09 | tpelliott | I tried the playlist viewer and I love it! I think the quick access key would be great to view the current playlist (dynamic or regular). |
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| 23:31:33 | hardeep | tpelliott: by regular playlist do you mean one that isn't currently playing (a .m3u file) ? |
| 23:32:25 | tpelliott | No. If I play an m3u file, is it copied to the dynamic playlist right away? |
| 23:32:45 | tpelliott | or just when I add stuff to it? |
| 23:32:58 | hardeep | tpelliott: oh, yes, that's now considered the dynamic playlist |
| 23:33:41 | hardeep | tpelliott: i've been using the term poorly... dynamic playlist = current playling playlist |
| 23:33:50 | hardeep | s/playling/playing |
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| 23:34:25 | tpelliott | ok. You should get rid of the word "dynamic" since all playlists are dynamic. Just explain that when you update the docs. |
| 23:34:45 | tpelliott | Great work, btw. |
| 23:35:11 | hardeep | tpelliott: yeah, maybe replace with "current" |
| 23:35:31 | hardeep | tpelliott: i want to distinguish between the current playing playlist and an .m3u file on disk |
| 23:36:36 | tpelliott | An m3u is copied to "playlist control" as soon as it's played? |
| 23:37:05 | hardeep | tpelliott: not copied, but the filename is stored in the control file |
| 23:38:15 | tpelliott | You mean as in "file.m3u, file1.mp3, file2.mp3, etc" in a list? |
| 23:39:34 | hardeep | tpelliott: just the .m3u filename.... we retrieve the tracknames directly from the mru file |
| 23:39:41 | hardeep | er m3u |
| 23:42:40 | tpelliott | ok. That's why we have to write a new file when saving the dynamic playlist. |
| 23:43:19 | hardeep | tpelliott: yes. i'm not modifying the original m3u file in any way |
| 23:45:09 | tpelliott | Cool. Would it be hard to add the ability to view any .m3u to your viewer? |
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| 23:46:58 | hardeep | tpelliott: yeah, since I rely on the dynamic playlist mechanism. Viewing an m3u file will probably be implemented as a standalone plugin |
| 23:49:34 | tpelliott | I'm sure someone will make a playlist viewer plugin. |
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