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| 00:29:53 | diddystar5 | hardeep: i just had a WPS idea centering the text! |
| 00:31:14 | hardeep|away | diddystar5: i believe there is already an open feature request for that |
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| 00:33:06 | diddystar5 | hummm i'm not good enough to do that i wish i was... |
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| 00:39:56 | diddystar5 | hey BoD[] |
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| 00:46:27 | Plugh | heya |
| 00:47:09 | BoD[] | hi |
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| 00:51:02 | remus | elinenbe: I tried loading rockbox on my archos but it doesn't seem to work |
| 00:51:12 | remus | elinenbe: I have the multimedia version |
| 00:52:04 | remus | all: do you have any idea if rockbox works on archos multimedia ? |
| 00:52:25 | Plugh | it does not |
| 00:52:47 | Plugh | this team isn't doing work on the multimedia |
| 00:53:27 | remus | Plugh: so it only works on non-multimedia versions ? |
| 00:53:47 | diddystar5 | the recorder rm, recorder, and player |
| 00:54:33 | remus | diddystar5: I see ... that's a pity ... |
| 00:54:48 | Plugh | correct |
| 00:55:00 | Plugh | it's a different CPU |
| 00:55:10 | diddystar5 | remus: we would have to write never drivers, video and pic codecs.... |
| 00:55:11 | Plugh | different DAC |
| 00:55:16 | diddystar5 | *new |
| 00:55:39 | remus | diddystar5: do you know of any place that does have open soulrce for the multimedia ? |
| 00:55:40 | diddystar5 | it's totaly differn't |
| 00:55:44 | Plugh | most of us don't even have a MM to play with |
| 00:56:07 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK remus |
| 00:56:07 | remus | Plugh: ,08:-( ... |
| 00:56:21 | Plugh | start one up. Easy enough to start a Sourceforge project |
| 00:56:28 | remus | diddystar5: it's also a different hw platform I would guess ... |
| 00:56:54 | diddystar5 | remus: yes |
| 00:57:17 | remus | Plugh: ok, but where do you get all the docs, etc ? |
| 00:57:17 | Plugh | all you need is someone with some hardware knowledge willing to rip their player apart to find out what CPU and DACs are available |
| 00:57:29 | Plugh | reverse engineering |
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| 00:58:15 | remus | Plugh: but then you have to figure out the HW schematics, the ports that are used, etc |
| 00:58:23 | Plugh | you wanna send me a multimedia? I'd be happy to take it apart and document the disassembly procedure |
| 00:58:38 | remus | Plugh: ,08:-) ... |
| 00:58:46 | Plugh | and I could even take pix of the chips and make best guesses as to the purpose of each one |
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| 01:00:19 | diddystar5 | oooo boy o boy o boy send it to me not him!!! |
| 01:00:29 | diddystar5 | :) |
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| 01:00:38 | remus | Plugh: ,08:-) ... I just bought mine for 300$ including shipping at http://www.compuplus.com/ ... including camera & card readers ... |
| 01:00:54 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 01:00:54 | remus | diddystar5 Plugh: now you guys have to decide ,08:-) ... |
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| 01:01:43 | Plugh | I just payed $179 for my FM20. Why would I wanna go out and spend another $300 now? |
| 01:01:56 | Plugh | besides, there's already a project for the device I bought |
| 01:02:24 | * | Plugh is an evil bastard |
| 01:03:01 | remus | Plugh: to get the extra features ... and the ability to download your pictures from CF to the jukebox ... |
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| 01:03:25 | Plugh | I have a digi cam |
| 01:04:19 | remus | Plugh: that's a good enough reason if you don't want to have a bunch of CF cards around |
| 01:04:51 | remus | Plugh: that's if your digicam uses CF or smartmedia ... |
| 01:06:06 | Plugh | CF hell |
| 01:06:13 | Plugh | I use smartmedia |
| 01:06:37 | Plugh | I've never filled it up, but I have 2 spare cards |
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| 01:11:19 | tracktheripper | hello chaps |
| 01:11:20 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 01:12:03 | tracktheripper | hello adimass |
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| 01:14:33 | remus | Plugh: it looks like you don't take too many pics ... but if you are on a long trip it's handy to be able to offload your pics on a HD |
| 01:15:45 | Sparks | I have a question about the battery debug screen - it shows the voltage, but is it possible to see the amperage the batteries are pulling? |
| 01:15:51 | tracktheripper | ? |
| 01:16:47 | Sparks | was the ? aimed at me T-T-R? |
| 01:17:42 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 01:18:21 | Sparks | ok, if i charge a batter with a bench power supply, i can see both the voltage and the current the battery is pulling |
| 01:18:28 | Plugh | remus: if I go on a long trip, I usually have a laptop around |
| 01:18:42 | Plugh | hell, if I go on a short trip, I usually have a laptop around |
| 01:18:59 | Sparks | is it possible to see the current the battery is charging at? |
| 01:19:16 | Plugh | I saw all that info |
| 01:19:18 | remus | Plugh: indeed, that would do it |
| 01:19:20 | Plugh | it's in the docs dir |
| 01:20:03 | Sparks | when i am charging a battery on the bench PSU, i know the battery is done when the current drops off |
| 01:21:01 | Plugh | voltage charging current (limited only by the AJB) |
| 01:21:01 | Plugh | −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−− |
| 01:21:01 | Plugh | 7,0V 10 mA |
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| 01:21:01 | Plugh | 7,5V 30 mA |
| 01:21:01 | Plugh | 8,0V 50 mA |
| 01:21:03 | Plugh | 8,5V 70 mA |
| 01:21:06 | Plugh | 9,0V 140 mA |
| 01:21:08 | Plugh | 9,5V 250 mA |
| 01:21:11 | Plugh | 10,0V 330 mA |
| 01:21:13 | Plugh | 10,5V 350 mA |
| 01:21:16 | Plugh | 11,0V 350 mA |
| 01:21:18 | Plugh | 11,5V 350 mA |
| 01:21:21 | Plugh | 12,0V 350 mA |
| 01:21:33 | Sparks | oh , ok |
| 01:21:39 | Sparks | is this tru of the FM?# |
| 01:21:44 | Plugh | yes |
| 01:21:47 | Plugh | that's what I have |
| 01:22:08 | Sparks | okay, so 350mAis the tops the batter will pull |
| 01:22:28 | Plugh | that's the charging current |
| 01:22:33 | Plugh | not the battery draw |
| 01:23:21 | Sparks | strange...i plugged in a 1A 5v PSU - ist charged |
| 01:23:26 | Sparks | ist -> it |
| 01:23:41 | Plugh | A12: In our testing we found the following results: |
| 01:23:41 | Plugh | HDD off, backlight off, idle 94 mA |
| 01:23:41 | Plugh | HDD off, backlight off, play 97 mA |
| 01:23:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 01:23:41 | Plugh | HDD off, backlight on, idle 129 mA |
| 01:23:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 01:23:41 | Plugh | HDD off, backlight on, play 131 mA |
| 01:23:44 | Sparks | i then tried a 2A 5v PSU - it charges faster |
| 01:23:44 | Plugh | HDD on, backlight on, play 230 mA |
| 01:23:46 | Plugh | HD on, reading, backlight off ~ 600 mA |
| 01:23:48 | Plugh | HD spin up before read max 800 mA |
| 01:24:06 | Plugh | is that kinda what you're looking for? |
| 01:24:09 | Sparks | both were regulated |
| 01:25:06 | Sparks | another question is, when doing a USB transfer with the supplied PSU, it seems to drain the battery |
| 01:25:25 | Sparks | would a bigger PSU stop this - or it the archos throtteling it? |
| 01:25:28 | Plugh | the power is always fed to the unit off the batteries |
| 01:25:56 | Plugh | so it will draw power while simultaneously charging |
| 01:26:20 | Plugh | I highly recommend the BATTERY-FAQ.txt file in /.rockbox/docs |
| 01:26:41 | Plugh | there's a lot of technical information about batteries and charging |
| 01:26:45 | Sparks | okay, so it wants 600Ma - but the psu is throtteld at 350 then |
| 01:26:58 | Plugh | including the differences between the Archos firmware and rockbox |
| 01:27:01 | Sparks | ok, I will have a look at that then! - thanks |
| 01:29:04 | tracktheripper | I wonder why the Recorder has a "software charger" |
| 01:29:13 | Sparks | so if i were to remove the battery when the unit was on, what would happen? |
| 01:29:21 | Plugh | it won't run |
| 01:29:23 | tracktheripper | DO NOT DO THAT SPARKS! |
| 01:29:35 | Plugh | because it only runs off the batteries |
| 01:29:46 | Sparks | so it would just tun off |
| 01:29:53 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 01:29:54 | tracktheripper | I tried that |
| 01:29:58 | Plugh | heh |
| 01:30:02 | Plugh | I wouldn't have |
| 01:30:04 | Plugh | but... |
| 01:30:17 | Plugh | I do want to get some 2000-2100uA batteries |
| 01:30:22 | Sparks | ah, but it doesnt! |
| 01:30:34 | Sparks | if the hdd is not spinning, it stays on |
| 01:33:40 | Sparks | so is the charger supplies enough power for the cpu, backlight etc, but not the HDD? |
| 01:33:42 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 01:34:58 | Sparks | ....and is it possible to get higher capacity batteries for the FM? |
| 01:35:19 | hardeep | elinenbe: were there any other bugs you found in the viewer besides the M/Q issue? |
| 01:36:06 | Plugh | the docs seem to be written for all the players in general. Does the FM use non-standard batteries? |
| 01:36:31 | Plugh | I've never opened mine up |
| 01:36:38 | Sparks | The FM has a 2200 mAh Lithum |
| 01:36:45 | Plugh | spiffy |
| 01:36:58 | Sparks | if you opo off the top cover, it slides out |
| 01:36:58 | Plugh | I don't think there's anything higher on the market right now |
| 01:37:09 | Sparks | you dont need to open the unit to get it! |
| 01:37:39 | Plugh | okay. I was wondering about that |
| 01:37:50 | Sparks | what sort of life do you get on your FM wihen playing mp3's? |
| 01:37:52 | Plugh | I'm considering getting an 80gig HD for mine |
| 01:37:57 | Sparks | same here |
| 01:38:03 | Plugh | I get more than 8 hours |
| 01:38:11 | Plugh | I've never drained it |
| 01:38:15 | Sparks | i habe opened mine, but havent taken the disk out yet! |
| 01:38:21 | Sparks | what bitrate mp3's? |
| 01:38:24 | Plugh | it always seems to find its way back to a charger |
| 01:38:32 | Plugh | 64-256 |
| 01:39:08 | Plugh | supposedly you can use 16k mp3s |
| 01:39:12 | Sparks | okay, mine are mostly 192, and i seem to be getting less - i need to test it properly |
| 01:39:19 | Plugh | but I don't know why I would ever want to |
| 01:39:45 | Plugh | try raising the buffer size |
| 01:39:55 | Plugh | set it to max |
| 01:40:57 | Plugh | using rockbox, of course. You can't set that in archos |
| 01:41:03 | Sparks | ...just trying to get the batter cover back on... |
| 01:41:51 | Sparks | u mean Archos make firmware!? |
| 01:44:07 | BoD[] | :) |
| 01:44:29 | Sparks | okay, where is the buffer settung :S |
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| 01:44:53 | * | Plugh guesses Sparks is German ;) |
| 01:44:54 | Sparks | the Anti Skip Buffer? |
| 01:44:57 | Plugh | yes |
| 01:45:00 | Plugh | that's the one |
| 01:45:09 | * | Sparks is English |
| 01:45:31 | * | Sparks needs sleep, and a new keyboard :P |
| 01:45:37 | Plugh | ah. You make some common German misspellings of English words |
| 01:45:51 | Plugh | I need sleep too. And a new kb as well |
| 01:45:53 | Sparks | i see what you mean! |
| 01:46:18 | Plugh | you were typing "ist" and "settung" |
| 01:46:29 | Plugh | so I mis-guessed German |
| 01:46:31 | Sparks | bt surely the anti-skip buffer needs to be set to a low number to conserve battery power? |
| 01:46:42 | Plugh | high number |
| 01:46:49 | Plugh | it pre-reads more data |
| 01:47:06 | Sparks | but does'nt high mean it will spin up more often? |
| 01:47:23 | hardeep | Sparks: yes, you are correct |
| 01:47:36 | Sparks | so it will use more power! |
| 01:47:40 | hardeep | Sparks: the higher the number, the more battery power is, potentially, used |
| 01:47:59 | Sparks | that is what i thought! - hence it is 0 |
| 01:49:18 | hardeep | yeah, it's best to leave it there |
| 01:49:19 | Plugh | I would imagine that buffering to RAM would reduce disk spin time. If I could load an entire 5 minute song into memory, it would take like 2 sec of spin time |
| 01:49:34 | hardeep | Plugh: we always load as much as we can |
| 01:50:01 | Sparks | by default it will load as much as possible, doing anything else would be stupid |
| 01:50:06 | hardeep | Plugh: the anti-skip buffer determines the mimimum amount of buffer before we start reloading |
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| 01:51:20 | hardeep | you can see a visual representation in Menu->Debug->View mpeg thread |
| 01:51:39 | Plugh | ahh, where it says "do not enter" |
| 01:51:40 | Plugh | ;) |
| 01:51:57 | Plugh | beyond here, there be monsters |
| 01:52:03 | Sparks | what is the short and long delta all about in the battery debug!? |
| 01:52:23 | bopman | Hi Folx! I'm a rockbox newbie with an installation question. |
| 01:52:25 | Sparks | mine is 16 and 849 right now |
| 01:52:37 | bopman | Want to ask it before I do something I regret... :-) |
| 01:52:56 | Sparks | fire away bopman! |
| 01:52:59 | hardeep | Sparks: i'm not familiar with the battery stuff... any info in the battery faq? |
| 01:53:30 | bopman | Q: I can't see the AJBREC.ajz file without using DirectorySnoop |
| 01:53:39 | bopman | But in DirectorySnoop, it shows up as deleted. |
| 01:53:44 | bopman | Can I safely undelete this file? |
| 01:54:03 | bopman | So I can rename it before installing RockBox? (and go back to it using Rolo?) |
| 01:54:15 | bopman | There...whew :) |
| 01:54:29 | hardeep | bopman: you can download it from the archos site |
| 01:54:52 | hardeep | bopman: better than undeleting |
| 01:55:06 | bopman | Ah...I didn't explain properly. |
| 01:55:14 | Sparks | hardeep: a serch for "delta" on the battery FAQ returns...nothing :( |
| 01:55:19 | bopman | My unit is working fine. I haven't done anything to it yet. |
| 01:55:39 | Sparks | is it running Rockbox? |
| 01:55:40 | bopman | I just can't "see" the file using windows explorer, DOS shell or cygwin |
| 01:55:44 | bopman | so I can't change its name. |
| 01:55:53 | Plugh | I renamed my Archos OS file so I can just copy it back if there's a problem with rockbox |
| 01:55:56 | bopman | Is it safe to undelete it? |
| 01:56:18 | Sparks | does the unit boot into rockbox? |
| 01:56:20 | hardeep | Sparks: alas, then you'll have to look in the code... |
| 01:56:42 | Sparks | hardeep: ok, so i will ignore that then :P |
| 01:56:56 | Plugh | I'd love to see Archos take some of the Rockbox changes to heart and write an optimized OS with a good feature set :) |
| 01:57:03 | hardeep | bopman: new units don't have a copy of the ajbrec.ajz file on disk, it's all in flash. However, you can download a copy of it from the archos website |
| 01:57:03 | Sparks | bopman: does your unit boot into rockbox? |
| 01:57:07 | Plugh | but there's always something to be said for hacking |
| 01:57:33 | hardeep | bopman: so, download that copy to your archos unit, rename it... then download the rockbox version and copy it |
| 01:58:12 | bopman | I see. Thanks Hardeep. I'll try that. |
| 01:58:29 | Plugh | oddly enough, when I bought mine it had a .ajz as well as the same fw in flash |
| 01:58:35 | bopman | It looks like someone had this unit before me; there's a ton of deleted files and .mp3s I never put on there |
| 01:59:02 | bopman | Sparks: No, I haven't installed Rockbox on it yet. |
| 01:59:29 | Plugh | bopman: you buy it at Fry's? |
| 01:59:40 | bopman | Radio Shack, of all places. |
| 01:59:52 | Sparks | sounds like it has been played with then! |
| 01:59:56 | bopman | And it came in a hard plastic case; the kind you cut your hand off trying to open. |
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| 02:00:11 | Sparks | blister pack? |
| 02:00:15 | Plugh | you can re-format it |
| 02:00:18 | bopman | Sounds like RatShack is selling refurbs! |
| 02:00:32 | bopman | I can't prove it though. |
| 02:00:41 | Plugh | I'd almost recommend a format |
| 02:00:46 | Plugh | how much was it? |
| 02:00:53 | Plugh | you probably got it at a discount |
| 02:00:55 | bopman | $230 |
| 02:01:01 | Plugh | gack! |
| 02:01:06 | Plugh | Mine was $179 |
| 02:01:08 | Plugh | from Fry's |
| 02:01:10 | bopman | no wait $205 |
| 02:01:43 | bopman | Hey you guys are great. One more question: what's the biggest HD you would recommend for expansion? |
| 02:01:54 | Sparks | 2.5" |
| 02:01:56 | bopman | I've seen 60GB, but don't know how stable they are with motion etc. |
| 02:02:03 | Plugh | I saw 80 |
| 02:02:09 | bopman | 80?!?!? |
| 02:02:16 | bopman | That must be like $800 |
| 02:02:17 | Sparks | 80 must be £$£$£$£$£ |
| 02:02:32 | Plugh | the thought of it makes me wanna spooge my jeans |
| 02:02:35 | Plugh | $279 |
| 02:02:40 | bopman | ROTFL |
| 02:03:02 | bopman | Where would I get an 80GB for $279? |
| 02:03:05 | Plugh | it's an Hitachi |
| 02:03:12 | Plugh | pricewatch.com |
| 02:03:25 | bopman | I just might do it. I have a 10 now. Kinda lame. |
| 02:03:34 | Plugh | ah. My 20 is full |
| 02:03:39 | Plugh | quickly full |
| 02:03:58 | bopman | www.emusic.com will do that to you. |
| 02:04:16 | Sparks | how is a Toshiba MK6021GAS 60GB 2.5" 9mm 12ms Notebook Hard Drive for GBP125 for value? |
| 02:04:16 | Plugh | my CD collection did that |
| 02:04:46 | Plugh | since Napster, I haven't been on p2p |
| 02:05:02 | bopman | emusic isn't p2p. It's $10/mo all you can eat. |
| 02:05:03 | Plugh | and only used Napster for about half its lifespan |
| 02:05:23 | bopman | Very well organized too. Mostly indy stuff. Lots of great Jazz. |
| 02:05:30 | Plugh | mostly I load up with my friends' DJ sets |
| 02:05:40 | bopman | Not much rock/pop, but that's ok with me. |
| 02:05:51 | Plugh | and the occasional book |
| 02:06:11 | Plugh | Harry Potter book 5 encoded to 1.4gig |
| 02:07:00 | bopman | Thanks guys. C u l8r |
| 02:07:12 | Plugh | seeya. Enjoy rockbox |
| 02:07:24 | | Part bopman |
| 02:08:16 | Sparks | i have another question with the battery debug screen - on the last screen, where you see the Last PwrHist Val: - the number are off the screen - is this normal!? |
| 02:08:20 | Sparks | (on the FM) |
| 02:08:23 | Plugh | wow. 65 messages on the list today |
| 02:09:10 | Plugh | use a smaller font? |
| 02:09:47 | Sparks | this is with the default settings |
| 02:10:14 | Plugh | mine does the same. It shows fully with the 5x7 font |
| 02:10:42 | Sparks | Plugh: have you flashed you FM? |
| 02:11:10 | Plugh | nah |
| 02:11:27 | Plugh | I just run it off the file |
| 02:11:31 | Sparks | has anyone here flashed an FM? |
| 02:11:39 | Sparks | <same here> |
| 02:11:52 | Plugh | I want the opportunity to switch back if something goes horribly wrong |
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| 02:12:13 | earHurts | hello |
| 02:12:18 | Sparks | Hello |
| 02:12:18 | Plugh | hiya |
| 02:13:01 | earHurts | what's new? |
| 02:14:38 | Plugh | doing a cvs up to see how to answer that question ;) |
| 02:15:19 | Sparks | I gotta go to bed now - catch you all later! |
| 02:15:25 | Plugh | seeya |
| 02:15:40 | * | Sparks is outta here! |
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| 02:16:06 | Plugh | earHurts: which unit do you have? |
| 02:16:17 | earHurts | fm |
| 02:16:34 | Plugh | cool. Lotta folx have that one, it seems. Including me |
| 02:16:55 | Plugh | okie. No new cvs |
| 02:18:56 | earHurts | what battery life do you egt? |
| 02:19:12 | Plugh | more than 8 hours |
| 02:19:18 | Plugh | probably around 10 |
| 02:19:35 | earHurts | is that playing time? |
| 02:19:49 | Plugh | yeah |
| 02:20:42 | earHurts | how would you like 14 hours? |
| 02:20:49 | Plugh | I'd love it |
| 02:21:27 | earHurts | what would you be willing to give up for it? |
| 02:21:37 | Plugh | I haven't encountered any issues with battery life to date |
| 02:22:14 | Plugh | so it's not worth anything to me at the moment |
| 02:22:25 | Plugh | except maybe geek factor |
| 02:22:46 | earHurts | what bit rate do you play? |
| 02:23:05 | Plugh | I have stuff from 96 to 256 |
| 02:23:34 | earHurts | 96? wow |
| 02:23:47 | Plugh | spoken word, audio books, etc |
| 02:24:00 | earHurts | high for audio books |
| 02:24:15 | Plugh | and some crummy recordings of the Church of the Subgenius radio show |
| 02:25:16 | earHurts | priase Bob |
| 02:25:27 | Plugh | Hail, yeah! |
| 02:26:12 | earHurts | I think I can increase the battery time by about 50% |
| 02:26:28 | Plugh | by encoding all 256 to 128? :) |
| 02:26:47 | earHurts | no, by changing some code |
| 02:27:17 | Plugh | I'd love to hack mine up to 8meg RAM |
| 02:27:33 | Plugh | that'll supposedly boost life 30% |
| 02:27:42 | earHurts | I changed my hdd to a 60GB |
| 02:27:55 | Plugh | I was looking at an 80 |
| 02:28:12 | earHurts | yeah? |
| 02:28:18 | Plugh | I just stumbled into the archos hacking community yesterday |
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| 02:28:30 | Plugh | Hitachi sells an 80 |
| 02:28:40 | Plugh | same brand as the 20 in mine |
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| 02:28:52 | Plugh | it reads all 60gig in one partition? |
| 02:28:53 | earHurts | I got the low noise fujitsu |
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| 02:29:20 | earHurts | I had to use linux utilities to partition it |
| 02:29:26 | Plugh | I should look at power ratings for the drives |
| 02:29:35 | Plugh | why'd you need to use Linux? |
| 02:29:59 | earHurts | windows 2000 won't format > 32GB |
| 02:30:17 | Plugh | ahh yeah. XP will |
| 02:31:23 | Plugh | I was fighting that battle a couple months ago when I was building my new desktop box |
| 02:31:48 | earHurts | xp will? |
| 02:32:05 | Plugh | 120gig for me |
| 02:32:09 | earHurts | the ms web page says not |
| 02:32:19 | Plugh | *shrug* |
| 02:32:28 | earHurts | not for fat32, yes for ntfs |
| 02:32:33 | Plugh | ah |
| 02:33:04 | Plugh | not really a prob. I have Linux all over the place too |
| 02:33:29 | Plugh | did you have to format with Linux? Or just partition? |
| 02:34:18 | earHurts | both |
| 02:34:41 | Plugh | just mkfs -t vfat ? |
| 02:34:58 | earHurts | yeah, something like that |
| 02:35:30 | Plugh | alrighty. I'll look into that when I decide to spend the money on the drive |
| 02:36:23 | earHurts | ;) |
| 02:39:45 | Plugh | it's gonna take a bit of research, finding which drives have the lowest power consumption during spin-up and run |
| 02:40:41 | Plugh | I'll also be looking at shock test results |
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| 03:00:45 | Plugh | going afk, but I'll stay logged on for months at a time. I'm like a bad cockroach infestation. You can't get rid of me |
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| 04:20:45 | hardeep | elinenbe: i uploaded a new version that fixes that M/Q bug. Please let me know if you encounter any others. |
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| 04:59:52 | remus | Plugh: Archos Multimedia uses the following processor: TI DCS21 |
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| 05:01:03 | Plugh | thanks remus. I found that info in the docs |
| 05:01:26 | remus | Plugh: what other info do you need in order to generate code for it ? |
| 05:02:41 | Plugh | umm... seeing as I can't write a Hello, World program in C, I figure I probably need a lot of programming experience |
| 05:04:30 | Plugh | I'm a software QA engineer by trade |
| 05:04:47 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK remus |
| 05:04:47 | remus | Plugh: hmmm ... well, you could just recompile the existing code for the new platform ,08:-) ... |
| 05:04:47 | Plugh | those who can't code, test |
| 05:05:01 | remus | Plugh: I see ... so you are testing the thing ... |
| 05:05:18 | Plugh | yeah, and having a blast in doing so |
| 05:05:22 | remus | Plugh: this processor is not used in the other player ? |
| 05:05:43 | Plugh | not in the multimedia |
| 05:05:50 | Plugh | it's way too slow |
| 05:05:55 | remus | Plugh: what other info do you need ? |
| 05:05:59 | remus | Plugh: I see ... |
| 05:06:14 | remus | Plugh: it looks like multimedia was discontinued ... |
| 05:06:41 | Plugh | that's odd. It's on the archos front page |
| 05:06:49 | remus | Plugh: I gotta go ... talk to you tomorrow ... |
| 05:06:53 | Plugh | oki |
| 05:06:59 | remus | Plugh: Yes it seems odd to me too .. |
| 05:07:39 | remus | Plugh: check here ... this is what he sais at least ... http://www.mpman.ca/MMJB%20Comparison.htm |
| 05:08:12 | Plugh | ah yeah |
| 05:08:18 | Plugh | they're pushing the 340 |
| 05:08:24 | Plugh | the 20 is dead |
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| 05:13:20 | NateDog | has anyone ever seen the message "panic: kill disk"...I saw it a split second before I turned off my jukebox because it was acting up |
| 05:15:57 | earHurts | kill disk +9 |
| 05:16:02 | earHurts | +9 |
| 05:16:09 | earHurts | No |
| 05:20:14 | NateDog | it works fine after reboot...the problem was that I heard a high-pitched whine and the song I was playing stopped abruptly...ah well |
| 05:21:46 | earHurts | did you run out of power? |
| 05:23:26 | NateDog | no...was at 30+%...I attempted a defrag, but it wasn't fragmented |
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| 05:25:31 | BoD[] | bed! |
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| 05:26:32 | Plugh | Hey, Doc! It hurts when I do this! |
| 05:26:36 | Plugh | Well, don't DO that |
| 05:28:10 | Plugh | I wonder if Rockbox needs a particular filesystem state, or if it's sensitive to runtime changes |
| 05:29:18 | Plugh | updating cvs then I'll take a look |
| 05:35:15 | Plugh | looks to me that it's reading a more base function of the system than "rockbox code". The panic is reading the error code from the system. |
| 05:38:12 | NateDog | you're probably right...panic...gotta love it |
| 05:43:48 | earHurts | no, there's no more basic funcrion |
| 05:44:21 | earHurts | after the rom loads it up, it's rockbox all the way down |
| 05:47:09 | NateDog | hmm...the mystery message |
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| 05:53:45 | Plugh | the panic message has to be coming out of ROM then |
| 05:54:03 | Plugh | cuz I just grepped the whole source tree and didn't find his error msg |
| 05:54:23 | Plugh | but I did find the panic code, which appears to be reading the message out of a memory location |
| 05:55:23 | earHurts | yeah, another part of the code sewts up the messages, I'd guess |
| 05:58:33 | Plugh | alright. I couldn't find it though |
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| 06:16:09 | Plugh | heya |
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| 06:23:11 | * | Plugh compiles a cross-compiler... bleh. big and messy |
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| 06:35:57 | scott666 | hey everyone |
| 06:36:47 | earHurts | hey scott |
| 06:37:15 | earHurts | how many hours are you getting on a full charge? |
| 06:37:25 | scott666 | dunno off hand |
| 06:37:37 | scott666 | im trying to kill the battery at the moment |
| 06:37:38 | scott666 | its hard |
| 06:38:06 | scott666 | i have it playing on repeat on the battery status screen |
| 06:38:15 | scott666 | im down to 13% and 2.87V |
| 06:38:30 | earHurts | fm, right? |
| 06:38:33 | scott666 | yup |
| 06:38:55 | earHurts | battery % doesn't mean much |
| 06:39:02 | earHurts | what bit rate? |
| 06:39:50 | scott666 | good idea |
| 06:40:10 | scott666 | i think i have 320 somewhere |
| 06:40:15 | earHurts | why are you running it down? |
| 06:40:25 | scott666 | topic on the list |
| 06:40:46 | earHurts | what topic? |
| 06:41:10 | scott666 | fm battery metrics or something |
| 06:41:24 | scott666 | i dunno |
| 06:41:35 | earHurts | oh that was from me |
| 06:41:37 | scott666 | someone mentions the volage at which the battery died |
| 06:41:53 | scott666 | and i decided to find out since i was at like 10% battery |
| 06:42:01 | earHurts | yeah, me |
| 06:42:10 | scott666 | yeah, thats what i thought |
| 06:42:28 | scott666 | its hard to figure out who people on the list are on irc, damn name changes |
| 06:43:01 | scott666 | the voltage jumps down .3 when the disk spins up |
| 06:43:05 | earHurts | if you play a cbr 320, you have ~1 hour left |
| 06:43:19 | scott666 | i still have to wait an hour?? |
| 06:43:21 | earHurts | only .3??? |
| 06:43:21 | scott666 | god |
| 06:43:34 | scott666 | yeah |
| 06:43:44 | scott666 | 2.82~ to 2.5x |
| 06:44:02 | scott666 | then back up |
| 06:44:18 | scott666 | wtf are the deltas? |
| 06:44:25 | earHurts | nevermind, sounds right |
| 06:45:08 | earHurts | if you want to run down faster, go to the wps |
| 06:46:27 | earHurts | staying on battery gives you about 50% more time |
| 06:47:12 | scott666 | how?? |
| 06:47:37 | scott666 | no updating time and scrolling gives 50%?? |
| 06:47:38 | earHurts | wps is more cpu intensive |
| 06:47:45 | earHurts | yup |
| 06:48:11 | scott666 | and the progress bar |
| 06:48:16 | earHurts | well, actually i expect the real cost is the seetings save |
| 06:48:36 | scott666 | cause it can resume even if you hard shut-down? |
| 06:48:47 | earHurts | yup |
| 06:49:02 | scott666 | bet thats it |
| 06:49:35 | earHurts | I want to move that code to the mpeg thread, and not save the whole settings block, as now |
| 06:50:03 | earHurts | for the moment, I have a build that freezes the wps. |
| 06:50:22 | scott666 | freezes it? |
| 06:51:34 | earHurts | it gives me at least 20% more time |
| 06:51:46 | earHurts | probably closer to 50% |
| 06:52:09 | earHurts | it stops updating the wps when the backlight goes off |
| 06:52:42 | scott666 | so its best to have caption on? |
| 06:53:08 | earHurts | it ignores caption |
| 06:53:27 | scott666 | i thought caption turned the backlight on at songchage |
| 06:53:54 | earHurts | my mod turns /off/ when the backlight goes off |
| 06:54:10 | earHurts | it doesn't turn on until a key is pressed |
| 06:55:21 | scott666 | so it kills the LCD? |
| 06:55:29 | scott666 | just displays nothing? |
| 06:55:48 | earHurts | no, just stops updating it |
| 06:56:00 | scott666 | does it still scroll? |
| 06:56:07 | scott666 | does time still count? |
| 06:56:36 | earHurts | no, no |
| 06:56:46 | earHurts | no screen update |
| 06:57:28 | scott666 | and when you press a button it updates? |
| 06:57:40 | earHurts | essestially |
| 06:57:45 | earHurts | yes |
| 06:57:57 | scott666 | that could be useful |
| 06:58:10 | scott666 | cause like it at shcool its in my pocket most of the time |
| 06:58:12 | earHurts | thanks |
| 06:58:19 | earHurts | precisely |
| 06:58:35 | scott666 | but when it isnt i like to stare at the screen/play worm |
| 06:58:59 | earHurts | it only affects the wps |
| 06:59:06 | scott666 | how long does it wait to time out? |
| 06:59:15 | earHurts | forever |
| 06:59:37 | scott666 | no i mean how long does it wait until it freezes the screen |
| 06:59:53 | scott666 | does it sit and continue updating for 5s? |
| 06:59:56 | scott666 | (or so) |
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| 07:00:05 | earHurts | whatwver backlight is set to |
| 07:00:20 | scott666 | ok |
| 07:00:33 | scott666 | i have to run some tests |
| 07:00:51 | scott666 | how long it lasts with backlight off the whole time, and how long with it on |
| 07:01:02 | earHurts | I'll have a beta build tomorrow night |
| 07:01:21 | earHurts | you can grab it if you'd like |
| 07:01:23 | scott666 | you should add a menu option for it |
| 07:01:49 | earHurts | eventually I will |
| 07:01:57 | scott666 | thing is, it's summer, i don't have a school to test at |
| 07:02:30 | earHurts | well, I spent today testing baseline and my mod |
| 07:02:48 | scott666 | it sounds interesting |
| 07:03:22 | earHurts | I'm going to try a few more things |
| 07:03:38 | scott666 | i would love to get RLD solved |
| 07:03:40 | earHurts | and then put out a proof of concrpt build |
| 07:03:51 | scott666 | yeah |
| 07:03:56 | earHurts | rld does annoy |
| 07:04:02 | scott666 | the idea is interesting |
| 07:04:21 | scott666 | ive seen SP too |
| 07:04:30 | earHurts | sp? |
| 07:04:34 | scott666 | silent play |
| 07:04:42 | scott666 | the time still counts but no sound comes out |
| 07:04:54 | earHurts | yes. |
| 07:05:06 | scott666 | more annoying becuase it doesnt resume properly |
| 07:05:28 | earHurts | yes |
| 07:06:23 | earHurts | gotta go |
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| 07:28:05 | CmdrData | Hey folks... |
| 07:28:13 | CmdrData | Im having an extensive problem |
| 07:28:20 | CmdrData | Anyone alive in here that could perhaps assist me |
| 07:29:56 | CmdrData | Anyone here? |
| 07:36:46 | CmdrData | ANYONE OUT THERE? |
| 07:37:36 | scott666 | me |
| 07:37:44 | scott666 | heh |
| 07:37:47 | scott666 | i was alt-tabbed |
| 07:38:00 | scott666 | whats your extensive problem? |
| 07:38:42 | CmdrData | Hey man |
| 07:39:04 | CmdrData | Well, when I turn my Archos JukeBox Studio20 On, it immediately goes into USB mode |
| 07:39:07 | CmdrData | and then powers down |
| 07:39:23 | scott666 | thats...interesting |
| 07:39:31 | CmdrData | You see my good man...I dropped my Archos into a swimming pool. |
| 07:39:38 | scott666 | lol |
| 07:39:39 | CmdrData | Which is not good. |
| 07:39:44 | CmdrData | For anyone. |
| 07:39:45 | scott666 | problem solved |
| 07:39:46 | scott666 | lol |
| 07:39:50 | CmdrData | I let it dry for 4 days |
| 07:39:53 | scott666 | lol |
| 07:39:55 | CmdrData | turned it on, working... |
| 07:39:59 | CmdrData | I was playing things fine. |
| 07:40:06 | CmdrData | "Wow, I thought", how lucky |
| 07:40:18 | CmdrData | Well you see, I then plugged it back into me MACHINE here |
| 07:40:28 | scott666 | uh-huh |
| 07:40:31 | CmdrData | added a few Howard Stern MP3's, logged out, unplugged |
| 07:40:39 | CmdrData | And uhhh... |
| 07:40:42 | CmdrData | turn ER' On here |
| 07:40:44 | scott666 | and it still thinks its plugged in? |
| 07:40:46 | CmdrData | and what do i get? |
| 07:40:48 | CmdrData | USB MODE! |
| 07:40:53 | CmdrData | yup |
| 07:40:55 | scott666 | did you look to see if somethings stuck in there? |
| 07:41:16 | CmdrData | uh, yea..dont see anythin |
| 07:41:43 | scott666 | id suggest opening it up and looking for any water damage |
| 07:41:55 | scott666 | or anything else that shouldnt be |
| 07:41:58 | CmdrData | Interesting. |
| 07:42:11 | CmdrData | Are you proficient in Archos repair? |
| 07:42:12 | scott666 | cause this is almost definitely a hardware issue |
| 07:42:31 | scott666 | no but i can pretend to be |
| 07:42:34 | scott666 | :-) |
| 07:42:38 | scott666 | heh |
| 07:42:44 | scott666 | i have an FMR in any case |
| 07:42:49 | CmdrData | Maybe someone who is like Scotty from Star Trek could help me |
| 07:42:59 | scott666 | but theres always the mods page to see what things SHOULD look like |
| 07:43:00 | CmdrData | Because if I unscrew stuff, its gonna be bad...real bad |
| 07:43:09 | CmdrData | Ill make things work ya see |
| 07:43:24 | scott666 | well you have to take the sea monkeys out some how |
| 07:43:25 | CmdrData | What I need is a good technical crewman. |
| 07:43:42 | CmdrData | Yes..."Somehow". |
| 07:43:52 | scott666 | open it up and shake it |
| 07:43:53 | scott666 | lol |
| 07:44:12 | scott666 | how far into the swimming pool did it get? |
| 07:44:23 | scott666 | sunk to the bottom? |
| 07:44:26 | CmdrData | Nope |
| 07:44:31 | CmdrData | I was holdign it when it went under |
| 07:44:35 | CmdrData | the genious that i am |
| 07:44:42 | CmdrData | I flipped over while on a tube |
| 07:44:48 | scott666 | i was gonna say something to that effect |
| 07:44:51 | CmdrData | only under for like half a sec |
| 07:45:02 | CmdrData | Yea...well |
| 07:45:05 | CmdrData | OOPS! |
| 07:45:08 | scott666 | archos in the pool? thats fucking brilliant! |
| 07:45:09 | scott666 | lol |
| 07:45:16 | CmdrData | OH YEA |
| 07:45:35 | CmdrData | ::southern accent:: Know anyone whos good at fix'n things |
| 07:45:35 | scott666 | put it in a ziplock bag next time |
| 07:45:45 | scott666 | *thangs |
| 07:45:46 | CmdrData | hey, what a good idea....ERRRR, next time |
| 07:45:47 | CmdrData | too late |
| 07:46:27 | scott666 | they should make a water-proof bag |
| 07:46:34 | CmdrData | there must be some RockBOX person that I can magically send this too and they'll be like |
| 07:46:38 | CmdrData | AUTOMATICALLY FIXED |
| 07:46:43 | CmdrData | thank you come again |
| 07:46:57 | scott666 | got a warranty? |
| 07:47:09 | CmdrData | MMMMMMMMM'NOPE |
| 07:47:24 | scott666 | cause telling best buy it doesnt work and you dont know why is a good way to get a new one |
| 07:47:43 | CmdrData | heh...yea |
| 07:48:05 | scott666 | i was gonna buy one, but it was $40 and i figured chaging the HD would void it |
| 07:48:16 | CmdrData | yea |
| 07:48:25 | CmdrData | hmmm.............. |
| 07:48:26 | scott666 | i recently hit the 20gig mark |
| 07:48:33 | CmdrData | yea, same here |
| 07:48:48 | CmdrData | I was thinking of getting an ipod, but there mega expensive |
| 07:48:55 | CmdrData | If I could get this fixed, it would be good for me |
| 07:49:53 | scott666 | i considered ipod |
| 07:50:03 | scott666 | and then i remembered my hate for mac |
| 07:50:13 | CmdrData | yea, u can use it with PC though |
| 07:50:30 | scott666 | and that i would MUCH rather use explorer than itunes |
| 07:50:37 | scott666 | but can you use linux? |
| 07:50:41 | CmdrData | Not sure |
| 07:50:44 | CmdrData | proly noy |
| 07:51:13 | CmdrData | Where could I send this to get it fixed? |
| 07:51:36 | scott666 | archos |
| 07:51:45 | scott666 | or this other place |
| 07:51:50 | CmdrData | what other place |
| 07:51:56 | scott666 | i cant remember |
| 07:52:00 | CmdrData | oh... |
| 07:52:02 | scott666 | but they had repair and upgrades |
| 07:52:08 | scott666 | someone mentioned it on the list |
| 07:52:18 | CmdrData | Hmm...any clue? |
| 07:52:21 | scott666 | or you might be able to sell it to someone for cheap |
| 07:52:30 | scott666 | or sell it on ebay as-is |
| 07:52:31 | scott666 | lol |
| 07:52:33 | CmdrData | I'd rather get it fixed |
| 07:53:03 | scott666 | www.google.com/search?q=archos+recorder+repair |
| 07:53:39 | CmdrData | good idea |
| 07:55:46 | scott666 | i found a page which describes how to replace the DC in |
| 07:58:55 | scott666 | grrr these are all 'buy a used archos' pages |
| 07:58:56 | CmdrData | Yea, that repair page, newmp3technology, charges 100 |
| 07:59:12 | CmdrData | 100 upfront cost... |
| 07:59:16 | CmdrData | ehhhhh... |
| 07:59:23 | scott666 | thats the site! |
| 07:59:41 | scott666 | terrible prices |
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| 08:00:10 | scott666 | $480 for an FM with a 60gb HD |
| 08:01:50 | scott666 | and they charge you $70 to get the old HD back |
| 08:04:01 | CmdrData | horrible |
| 08:04:09 | CmdrData | i'd rather just put the money towards a new player |
| 08:04:15 | CmdrData | damn |
| 08:04:46 | CmdrData | im outta here man |
| 08:04:49 | CmdrData | cya |
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| 08:12:10 | * | Plugh laughs his ass off at CmdrData |
| 08:14:39 | | Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) |
| 08:19:40 | Plugh | morning |
| 08:22:44 | scott666 | technically |
| 08:23:23 | scott666 | (it's 1:24 here) |
| 08:25:33 | scott666 | who brings an archos in a pool, honestly? |
| 08:32:15 | Plugh | someone deserving of lots of laughter? |
| 08:33:08 | * | Plugh playing records now (vinyl ones) |
| 08:38:01 | scott666 | the format for true audiophiles |
| 08:40:14 | Plugh | hard to listen to on the train though |
| 08:40:19 | Plugh | a little too bumpy |
| 08:41:03 | scott666 | just a bit |
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| 09:13:49 | Plugh | morning |
| 09:13:57 | Bagder | hey ho |
| 09:14:37 | dwihno | Winky! :D |
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| 10:22:57 | Guest | i need help |
| 10:23:04 | Bagder | with what? |
| 10:24:03 | Guest | when i want to flash my recorder rockbox says "security check failed" what can i do? |
| 10:24:46 | Bagder | no idea |
| 10:24:55 | * | Bagder is a flash cluebie |
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| 10:26:11 | adi|home | hmmm anyone around that is in the plugin loading plugin converstaion? |
| 10:26:27 | Bagder | I'm merely reading it ;-) |
| 10:26:53 | adi|home | nods |
| 10:26:58 | adi|home | i kinda like the idea... |
| 10:27:05 | adi|home | but not sure how far it will go yet... |
| 10:27:16 | adi|home | i like the paging idea... |
| 10:27:32 | adi|home | but i don't know how the 'writing the memory to disk' will play out |
| 10:27:37 | Bagder | well, I like that part too |
| 10:27:38 | Bagder | but |
| 10:27:49 | Bagder | I don't like one plugin knowing and running a specifc other named plugin |
| 10:27:58 | adi|home | right.. i agree with that.. |
| 10:28:06 | adi|home | thats part of the reason i was looking for converstaion |
| 10:28:10 | Bagder | it would need some special system to know what to run |
| 10:28:15 | adi|home | i was thinking maybe a queue like we have for songs |
| 10:28:48 | adi|home | run, check queue, if empty, run |
| 10:28:59 | adi|home | else, page to disk, run next item on queue |
| 10:29:01 | adi|home | etc |
| 10:29:46 | adi|home | but plugins not being indepentent is bad |
| 10:30:22 | Bagder | for a plugin to run another plugin to show a .txt, it should probably run a function like playfile(filename) |
| 10:30:31 | adi|home | nods |
| 10:30:35 | Bagder | and a plugin that shows .txt would need to register for it |
| 10:30:56 | Bagder | or something |
| 10:34:42 | Harlequin | question for the coders among you. Would it be difficult to write a plug in that will display the text content of pdf documents? |
| 10:35:21 | Bagder | I don't know |
| 10:35:26 | adi|home | neither do i |
| 10:35:37 | Bagder | I guess it would take some parsing |
| 10:35:45 | Bagder | but it is probably doable |
| 10:35:49 | adi|home | to me the idea of reading a book on the recorder still seems a streach anyways |
| 10:36:10 | PsycoXul | adi|home: nah |
| 10:36:13 | PsycoXul | auto-scroll is the way |
| 10:36:23 | PsycoXul | or word flashing |
| 10:36:23 | Harlequin | It'd just be for basic browsing. I've got buckets of ebooks stored on it. |
| 10:36:29 | PsycoXul | both can be considered speed reading |
| 10:36:33 | PsycoXul | you don't even have to move your eyes |
| 10:36:46 | adi|home | i guess.. |
| 10:36:50 | Bagder | Harlequin: isn't it smarter to convert them to ascii on a PC and read them as .txt with Rockbox? |
| 10:36:51 | adi|home | my unit isn't stable enough to do it.. |
| 10:38:08 | Harlequin | It would be, but i don't really want to duplicate the documents |
| 10:43:14 | Harlequin | I think the main problem I'd hit with viewing pdfs is that most of mine are several MB. Recorder probably couldn't cope. |
| 10:43:24 | dwihno | Yay |
| 10:43:34 | Bagder | well, it wouldn't load all of it at once, only scanning through it |
| 10:43:52 | dwihno | Is xpdf GPL? |
| 10:43:58 | Bagder | I think so |
| 10:44:09 | Bagder | there's ghostscript too |
| 10:44:11 | dwihno | Then there's a way to do it. |
| 10:44:27 | Bagder | which is used for "ps2ascii" and "pdf2ps" |
| 10:44:38 | Bagder | so yes, there's code to read |
| 10:45:06 | Harlequin | That'd be nice. The spec for pdf format is thousands of pages long. :) |
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| 11:03:57 | Bagder | heh, even the ipod isn't capable of playing ogg (reading the ipodlinux pages) |
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| 13:58:22 | earHurts | anyome here? |
| 13:58:28 | Bagder | yeps |
| 13:59:11 | earHurts | I have a mod that I think increases battry life by 30-50% |
| 13:59:31 | Bagder | what does it do? |
| 13:59:44 | earHurts | I want to find some testers fot it. |
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| 14:00:13 | earHurts | It's pretty simple: |
| 14:00:40 | earHurts | It does'nt update the wps once the backlight goes out |
| 14:01:14 | Bagder | just that saves 30%? |
| 14:02:01 | earHurts | at least 20%, probably closer to 40% |
| 14:02:49 | earHurts | a non-modifies played 5 hours of continuous 320 cbr.* |
| 14:03:14 | earHurts | starting at 3.8 volts |
| 14:03:44 | earHurts | the modified played close to 6 hours starting at 3.7 |
| 14:04:24 | earHurts | thus the 20% figure. The numbers are a bit better, I think, for lower bitrates |
| 14:05:56 | earHurts | But testing of course required 5 + 6 + recharge time hours. So I'm looking for testers to verify the numbers, and to test recorders |
| 14:07:06 | earHurts | I also want to test a less agressive version which would update the screen while still saving power |
| 14:09:26 | earHurts | Interested in being a tester? |
| 14:10:00 | Bagder | I don't think I'm suitable, I don't use my archos much atm |
| 14:11:21 | earHurts | That makes you perfectly suitable. You won't miss it, or mind playing the same album over and over again |
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| 14:13:45 | earHurts | Why aren't you using your archos? |
| 14:14:06 | Bagder | I'm in front of my computer all day long |
| 14:16:10 | earHurts | Perfect. So you can just turn on your archos, and record the voltage every half hour. You're the perfect tester. ;) |
| 14:17:10 | earHurts | Since friday, I've been playing the same two albums, over and over, to test the battery life |
| 14:17:32 | earHurts | continuous repeat for up to 13 hours at a time |
| 14:18:48 | earHurts | Sitting at work, in bars, on the subway, taking out my pda to record voltage levels against elapsed time. |
| 14:23:32 | earHurts | Is there room in the queue for another thread? |
| 14:23:50 | Bagder | I think so |
| 14:24:00 | Bagder | its only a set maximum, it can be enlarged |
| 14:24:09 | earHurts | sweet |
| 14:26:03 | earHurts | settings are saved with ata_delayed_write. Can ata_delyaed_write write to abitrary diles, or just to the setttings data? |
| 14:26:18 | earHurts | s/diles/files |
| 14:26:27 | Bagder | I'm not sure |
| 14:26:39 | Bagder | I think it writes a single sector |
| 14:26:45 | earHurts | hmm |
| 14:26:47 | Bagder | so it isn't that suitable for file writing |
| 14:27:12 | earHurts | file i/o is buffered or not? |
| 14:27:17 | Bagder | it is |
| 14:27:54 | earHurts | how can I flush it? |
| 14:28:35 | earHurts | (sorry, I'm more used to c++ i/o) |
| 14:28:52 | Bagder | fsync() I think |
| 14:28:54 | earHurts | cout.flush() |
| 14:29:36 | earHurts | fsync( filedescriptor ) ? |
| 14:29:44 | Bagder | yes |
| 14:31:39 | earHurts | thanks for you help. |
| 14:31:52 | Bagder | no problemos |
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| 14:38:58 | earHurts | rockbox's printf formatters don't support the L modifier do they? |
| 14:39:30 | Bagder | nope |
| 14:39:46 | earHurts | How can I printf a long? |
| 14:39:54 | Bagder | L is not for long |
| 14:39:59 | Bagder | l is |
| 14:40:10 | earHurts | capital I? |
| 14:40:28 | Bagder | no, lowercase L |
| 14:40:34 | Bagder | but in rockbox ints and longs are the same |
| 14:40:38 | Bagder | so it 'l' is not needed |
| 14:40:41 | Bagder | %d works fine |
| 14:41:04 | earHurts | are longs 16 or 32 bits? |
| 14:41:08 | Bagder | 32 |
| 14:41:14 | Bagder | ints and longs are the same |
| 14:41:23 | earHurts | oh, ok |
| 14:41:32 | earHurts | thanks |
| 14:42:07 | earHurts | and %u for unsigned long? |
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| 14:42:30 | Bagder | normally, yes, but that isn't supported ;-/ |
| 14:43:02 | earHurts | ;) |
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| 15:16:05 | MP3glee | What are the plans to enable 'retro recording' on the FM Recorder? |
| 15:16:15 | Bagder | linus is working on it |
| 15:16:29 | Bagder | it'll be for the normal recorder as well |
| 15:16:46 | dwihno | retro recording? |
| 15:16:50 | Harlequin | what's retro recording? |
| 15:16:58 | MP3glee | Great. You guys are unbelievable. Well worth contributing to. |
| 15:17:19 | MP3glee | The Archos firmware for the FM Recorder records the previous 30 seconds of |
| 15:17:21 | Bagder | retro recorder means that when you press "record" it already has N seconds of data recorded |
| 15:17:24 | MP3glee | FM content. |
| 15:17:56 | Harlequin | The radio isn't up to sctratch anyway. Very disappointing. |
| 15:18:06 | MP3glee | That way if you hear something and want to capture it, press record. |
| 15:18:10 | Bagder | it makes sense for mic recordings too |
| 15:18:46 | dwihno | neato |
| 15:19:06 | dwihno | When you've heard something juicy and realize, "damn, I should've recordered that" :) |
| 15:19:20 | Bagder | yeps |
| 15:19:36 | Bagder | although of course you must've activated the retro function first :-) |
| 15:19:40 | dwihno | Indeed. |
| 15:20:29 | MP3glee | Seems some of the FMR radios are better than others. Manufacturing? Mine=good. |
| 15:20:54 | MP3glee | I even need a 'local' function to filter out some of the weaker stations. |
| 15:21:03 | MP3glee | Live in Denver, Colorado USA |
| 15:21:03 | Harlequin | I stopped trying to use the radio about a week after I got the FM Recorder. You have to stay perfectly still to keep a decent signal. |
| 15:21:21 | MP3glee | Perhaps reception merely good here. |
| 15:21:59 | Harlequin | Maybe so. Everything's crap here. Wouldn't suprise me if the radio stations were lazy about frequency range. |
| 15:22:41 | Harlequin | I was expecting a decent lock in amp though. |
| 15:23:51 | MP3glee | Anybody working on the ROCKbox search function? |
| 15:24:18 | Bagder | dunno |
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| 15:47:14 | nevs | hello |
| 15:47:24 | nevs | scott |
| 15:47:52 | Bagder | hi |
| 15:47:53 | nevs | anyone here |
| 15:47:58 | nevs | hi |
| 15:48:18 | nevs | do u know anything about kazaa? |
| 15:48:32 | Bagder | try google |
| 15:49:04 | nevs | do u know if kazaa lite has spyware or addware ? |
| 15:49:10 | Bagder | try google |
| 15:49:40 | Bagder | kazaa has bazillion spywares |
| 15:49:49 | Bagder | but there exist hacks that work around them |
| 15:50:22 | nevs | what about kazaa lite? |
| 15:50:37 | Bagder | try google |
| 15:50:50 | Bagder | this is #rockbox, not #kazaa |
| 15:51:27 | nevs | im just asking |
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| 15:53:13 | bopman | Hi Folx! |
| 15:53:20 | Bagder | 'ello |
| 15:53:35 | bopman | I had a cool idea; don't know if anyone's on it yet. |
| 15:53:54 | nevs | hello |
| 15:54:12 | bopman | how about a program that reads the mp3 headers, |
| 15:54:21 | bopman | and speaks them out loud. |
| 15:54:33 | Bagder | you mean the id3 tags |
| 15:54:38 | bopman | yeah - those. |
| 15:54:52 | bopman | by using a software speech synthesizer, |
| 15:55:00 | Bagder | yeah, someone once suggested a word database with all the common words as separate mp3 files |
| 15:55:00 | bopman | we could create our own "radio station". |
| 15:55:23 | nevs | lol |
| 15:55:33 | Bagder | on rockbox, you can't do "speech synth" you can only do mp3 |
| 15:56:00 | bopman | true, but on the pc, the mp3's and corresponding playlist could be generated, then copied. |
| 15:56:14 | nevs | hey |
| 15:56:25 | bopman | I just got an FM transmitter for my car. Only thing missing is Eric Jackson telling me what was just played, |
| 15:56:26 | Bagder | true |
| 15:56:27 | bopman | and who was on it. |
| 15:56:36 | nevs | whats the origanal batteries put in the archos studio 20? |
| 15:56:41 | bopman | I'm serious. This would be mega cool. |
| 15:56:52 | Bagder | nevs: 1500mAh |
| 15:56:57 | nevs | ok |
| 15:57:04 | nevs | 1800mah wont hurt it yeah? |
| 15:57:12 | Bagder | nope |
| 15:57:17 | Bagder | it'll just make it run longer |
| 15:57:22 | nevs | ill go and buy some |
| 15:57:40 | nevs | when do u have to replace ur battaries? |
| 15:57:52 | bopman | when they no longer hold a charge. |
| 15:58:00 | bopman | :-) |
| 15:58:10 | nevs | cuase i had mine player for a year |
| 15:58:41 | nevs | and if i charge it for lets say 4 hours , ill get half an hour maz playing time at nearly the lowest volume setting |
| 15:58:50 | Bagder | ough |
| 15:58:58 | bopman | time for new ones, I'd say |
| 15:59:13 | bopman | Did you try the deep discharge? |
| 15:59:26 | nevs | no, im not on rockbox |
| 15:59:29 | nevs | i will be |
| 15:59:33 | bopman | give it a whirl |
| 15:59:44 | nevs | ive tried it before its very good |
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| 16:00:25 | nevs | but i cant now becuase my ac/dc adpater broke, so i ordered another one (the unviersal adapter) and i waiting for it then ill update to rockbox again |
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| 16:01:41 | nevs | hey u know when you plug in ur archos while connectect to the pc, does it really keep the batteries charging and not lossing power? |
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| 16:26:22 | snwcrash | hello |
| 16:26:37 | Plugh | *yawn* |
| 16:26:40 | snwcrash | i have a question if anyone isnt idle |
| 16:26:42 | snwcrash | yay |
| 16:26:46 | Bagder | try |
| 16:27:06 | Plugh | try? There is no try. DO! |
| 16:27:17 | snwcrash | okay the harddrive in the archos recorder FM 20 |
| 16:27:44 | snwcrash | is a standard labtop HD |
| 16:27:56 | snwcrash | is it formatted FAT32? |
| 16:28:03 | Bagder | well, its a 9.5mm 2.5" one at least |
| 16:28:05 | Bagder | yes |
| 16:28:37 | Plugh | yes, FAT32 |
| 16:28:43 | snwcrash | okay here is my deal. the USB port on my Archos recorder FM 20 broke off the board |
| 16:28:46 | snwcrash | and is rattling in side |
| 16:28:59 | Plugh | if you wanna format it over 32gig you'll prob need Linux |
| 16:29:22 | Plugh | you have to pre-format a new drive you wanna put in the archos |
| 16:29:29 | snwcrash | i am gonna fix it my self |
| 16:29:48 | snwcrash | i know it still works like nothing got shorted out or anything. the usb port just needs to be resolderd |
| 16:30:02 | snwcrash | but i wanna back up all my music i had on there first |
| 16:30:24 | snwcrash | and i was wondering if it would run into any troubles hooking up the notebook HD to my pc |
| 16:30:24 | Bagder | just smack into your pc |
| 16:30:29 | snwcrash | i have an adapter |
| 16:30:37 | snwcrash | sweet |
| 16:30:39 | snwcrash | so it should work fine |
| 16:30:41 | Bagder | many people have done so before |
| 16:30:44 | snwcrash | YAY |
| 16:31:12 | snwcrash | you know anyone with the USB port falling off |
| 16:31:23 | Bagder | nope |
| 16:31:32 | Plugh | I know someone who cooked their USB port off ;) |
| 16:32:14 | snwcrash | did they fix it okay? |
| 16:32:17 | snwcrash | or did they RMA it |
| 16:32:23 | Plugh | dropped their archos in a pool, and now it's stuck in USB mode |
| 16:32:28 | snwcrash | woah |
| 16:32:28 | snwcrash | hehe |
| 16:32:38 | Plugh | happened yesterday. dunno what they're gonna do |
| 16:32:47 | snwcrash | open it up |
| 16:32:49 | snwcrash | and blow dry that |
| 16:32:51 | snwcrash | sucka |
| 16:32:54 | snwcrash | and replace the batt |
| 16:32:54 | Plugh | they did |
| 16:33:20 | snwcrash | i accidently came across the rockbox site |
| 16:33:23 | snwcrash | i am soo excited |
| 16:33:28 | Plugh | the thought is that the chlorine has caused corrosion in the traces |
| 16:33:32 | snwcrash | i cant wait to get my archos working again |
| 16:33:38 | snwcrash | i am gonna throw that firmware on it |
| 16:33:40 | Plugh | I'm addicted now |
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| 16:34:04 | Plugh | I ran into the site 2 days ago and now I have an sh1 cross-compiler under Linux |
| 16:34:14 | Bagder | snwcrash: so you haven't seen it yet? wooo ;-) |
| 16:34:31 | Plugh | I've also convinced people to look at memory management in a new light ;) |
| 16:34:35 | Bagder | Plugh: that's the spirit! ;-) |
| 16:35:07 | Plugh | I'm no coder, but I have some good ideas. heh |
| 16:35:20 | snwcrash | yeah like i never really liked the menus and layout of the archos. like scrollin is a bitch and all |
| 16:35:25 | snwcrash | seems like rockbox will fix all that |
| 16:35:25 | Plugh | I'll certainly be hacking around with what I have |
| 16:35:39 | Plugh | scroll is easier in rockbox |
| 16:35:53 | snwcrash | yeah |
| 16:36:05 | Plugh | and the inverse bar scroller is 10x better than the little arrow that was impossible to see |
| 16:36:19 | Bagder | I don't even remember the archos fm |
| 16:36:23 | Bagder | fw |
| 16:36:35 | snwcrash | its teh sux |
| 16:36:50 | snwcrash | have people successfully upgraded the HD in the archos |
| 16:36:54 | snwcrash | to like 60 or 80GB |
| 16:36:58 | Plugh | I have a copy sitting on my hd for emergencies |
| 16:37:22 | Plugh | I figure I'm gonna need it if I'm running my own code ;) |
| 16:37:23 | snwcrash | 2.5 drives are quite expensive tho |
| 16:37:33 | Plugh | $279 for 80gig |
| 16:37:45 | Plugh | that's what I really want in my fm20 |
| 16:38:00 | snwcrash | yeah |
| 16:38:03 | snwcrash | thats sick storage |
| 16:38:16 | Plugh | I could still fill it :( |
| 16:38:19 | snwcrash | hehe |
| 16:38:32 | snwcrash | you know whats sick those iPods. they are soo damn expensive |
| 16:38:35 | snwcrash | its rediculous |
| 16:38:36 | Bagder | yes, people have upgraded to all sorts of disks, up to at least 60GB |
| 16:38:50 | Plugh | one of my co-workers got a 15gig iPod |
| 16:39:03 | Plugh | expensive? Yeah. Slick as hell though |
| 16:39:11 | Plugh | the interface is a dream |
| 16:39:13 | snwcrash | yeah |
| 16:39:34 | Plugh | the font is incredibly readable |
| 16:39:46 | Plugh | though I think Archos now has a charcoal font |
| 16:39:54 | Plugh | it's pretty sweet |
| 16:40:00 | hardeep | Plugh: try the "Chicago" font on the jukebox |
| 16:40:06 | hardeep | Plugh: and compare to ipod font. :) |
| 16:40:08 | Plugh | oh, that's the one |
| 16:40:11 | Plugh | yeah I know |
| 16:40:23 | Plugh | I was goofing with fonts the other day |
| 16:40:40 | Plugh | the one I'm using now is compact and legible |
| 16:41:09 | Plugh | some of the debug screens are illegible without a tiny font |
| 16:41:28 | Plugh | they're not set to scroll text, so it just goes off the edge |
| 16:41:42 | snwcrash | you think its going to be difficult soldering that usb port back on? |
| 16:42:21 | Plugh | you're working with some tiny connectors. You'll need a low wattage iron, tiny solder, and a steady hand |
| 16:42:46 | snwcrash | yeah ill smoke a few cigs before hand |
| 16:43:42 | Plugh | nicotine causes a stress reaction in the circulatory system. Constrict blood vessels, causes an increased heart rate, etc |
| 16:45:28 | snwcrash | bah |
| 16:46:01 | snwcrash | you could get hit by a drunk driver walking across the street |
| 16:47:16 | snwcrash | so the rockbox also improves sound quality? |
| 16:47:38 | Bagder | yes |
| 16:47:41 | snwcrash | sc0re! |
| 16:47:44 | Bagder | the high pitch sound is gone |
| 16:48:21 | Plugh | I didn't say smoking was fatal. I said it's not the best drug to stop a shaky hand on the soldering iron. ;) |
| 16:48:58 | Bagder | rockbox also allows much louder volume ;-O |
| 16:50:45 | Plugh | Oh yeah. I noticed that part right away |
| 16:51:35 | snwcrash | sweet |
| 16:52:24 | Plugh | I'm suffering from cat paralysis |
| 16:52:42 | Plugh | my new kitten has taken over my lap and I can't get ready for work |
| 16:53:40 | snwcrash | nice talking to all of you |
| 16:53:44 | snwcrash | thanks for the help |
| 16:53:46 | snwcrash | bai bai |
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| 16:54:13 | Plugh | ugly script |
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| 17:12:31 | jorbond | do i have to log in to sourceforge to reply to a patch |
| 17:13:21 | Plugh | you can bring up the issue here or join the mailing list |
| 17:13:38 | jorbond | well i saw the nim plugin for the player |
| 17:13:43 | jorbond | and it had some bugs in it |
| 17:13:45 | jorbond | so i fixed them |
| 17:13:46 | Plugh | mailing list may get more response :) |
| 17:14:09 | Bagder | you can comment anonymously |
| 17:14:10 | Plugh | post a patch to the list |
| 17:14:22 | jorbond | can i post files? |
| 17:14:29 | Bagder | it was just updated on sf btw |
| 17:14:42 | Bagder | I don't think so |
| 17:14:45 | Plugh | a diff should be okay |
| 17:14:53 | Bagder | diff is better |
| 17:15:10 | jorbond | sry about that |
| 17:15:29 | Bagder | ah |
| 17:15:34 | Bagder | that update is your update, right? |
| 17:15:45 | jorbond | what do u mean |
| 17:15:50 | Bagder | on sourceforge |
| 17:15:52 | jorbond | yeah |
| 17:15:56 | jorbond | i wrote the fixes |
| 17:16:10 | jorbond | but the other guy wrote the program |
| 17:16:47 | Bagder | I'd say you first make a diff, then mail that to the author and post it to the tracker |
| 17:16:59 | Bagder | since it isn't in CVS yet |
| 17:17:29 | Bagder | and when Pierre reacts, I can add it to cvs |
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| 17:18:55 | jorbond | was trying to think of games that can be made for the player |
| 17:19:12 | jorbond | so far i have blackjack, and mastermind |
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| 17:25:17 | Plugh | did you look at the chip8 patch? |
| 17:25:43 | Bagder | not recently |
| 17:26:30 | Plugh | there's about 20 games that'll play on the archos |
| 17:26:33 | Bagder | it really should be made as a plugin |
| 17:27:02 | * | jorbond wishes he would of bought a recorder instead |
| 17:27:05 | Plugh | Space Invaders is 2k |
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| 17:27:55 | Plugh | I dunno how well that would translate into a plugin |
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| 17:28:28 | Bagder | well, it could use a special extension for the games and work like the viewer plugin |
| 17:28:35 | Bagder | perhaps |
| 17:29:00 | Plugh | it already uses a special extension |
| 17:30:48 | Plugh | looks like it may be possible to do as a plugin |
| 17:30:58 | Plugh | the code to support it is only a few k |
| 17:32:07 | Bagder | gotta go |
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| 17:45:25 | jorbond | i know i have been asking a lot of questions on irc but i have one more, i cant view txt files on the player |
| 17:45:39 | hardeep | jorbond: what happens? |
| 17:45:46 | jorbond | it says "Can't Open /.rockbox/" |
| 17:45:54 | jorbond | and the txt file is in the root of the drive |
| 17:46:13 | hardeep | jorbond: ah, you need to create a "/.rockbox/rocks" directory and copy the text viewer plugin there |
| 17:46:21 | jorbond | oh ok |
| 17:46:47 | hardeep | jorbond: use the zip file from the daily builds page and unzip it directly to your jukebox |
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| 17:47:02 | hardeep | jorbond: it will create the appropriate directories and copy all the files |
| 17:47:05 | jorbond | need to write some docs, b/c the other feature that isnt written anywhere is that you hold down the stop to turn it off |
| 17:47:09 | jorbond | thank you |
| 17:47:32 | jorbond | it took me a week to find out that you do that to turn it off lol, i was just letting the bat. drain |
| 17:48:07 | scott666 | lol |
| 17:48:16 | hardeep | jorbond: that's not special to rockbox... the archos fw works the same way for shutting down |
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| 17:48:30 | scott666 | its not fw, its done in hw |
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| 17:48:52 | jorbond | well with the normal firmware you can press on and it will come up with that push stop to turn off screen |
| 17:49:02 | hardeep | scott666: right |
| 17:49:11 | jorbond | so i always turned it off with on+stop |
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| 17:51:35 | jorbond | whoo it works thanks again |
| 17:51:58 | diddystar5 | hardeep: your playlist viewer patch is cool :) |
| 17:52:21 | hardeep | diddystar5: thanks... have you found any problems with it? |
| 17:53:01 | diddystar5 | hardeep: nope, it works perfectly for me |
| 17:54:21 | hardeep | heh |
| 17:54:39 | scott666 | i wanna view .m3u files damnit! |
| 17:55:14 | hardeep | scott666: that would be a separate module... likely a plugin |
| 17:55:15 | scott666 | itd be nice if it were on F3 |
| 17:56:35 | scott666 | you could view a playlist thats been randomized! |
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| 17:57:07 | hardeep | scott666: hmmmm... that's what my viewer does |
| 17:57:24 | scott666 | yeah but does it work if it isnt dynamic |
| 17:57:44 | hardeep | scott666: i'm going to change the name... dynamic = current playing playlist |
| 17:57:59 | scott666 | good idea :-) |
| 17:58:15 | scott666 | ata error -52 |
| 17:59:15 | scott666 | how the hell do i shut it down when its panicing? |
| 17:59:29 | scott666 | there it goes |
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| 18:00:27 | scott666 | ahh youre right, i just only tested with dynamic ones |
| 18:00:36 | hardeep | scott666: are you booting from flash? |
| 18:00:45 | scott666 | yeah |
| 18:01:12 | hardeep | scott666: you might want to mention that problem to [IDC]Dragon |
| 18:02:23 | scott666 | i expect its because last night i tested to see what voltage it died at |
| 18:02:41 | hardeep | scott666: oh, so batteries were dead? |
| 18:02:49 | scott666 | yeah but it was plugged in |
| 18:02:52 | scott666 | odd |
| 18:02:59 | scott666 | but i assume thats the cause |
| 18:03:34 | hardeep | scott666: possibly, still might want to let him know |
| 18:03:39 | jorbond | i have to say the archos is horrible on low bats |
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| 19:07:16 | * | Plugh runs screaming off into the night |
| 19:07:34 | * | Plugh moseys back |
| 19:07:42 | Plugh | Tension breaker. Had to be done |
| 19:10:13 | scott666 | lol |
| 19:10:43 | * | scott666 slaps Plugh around a bit with a large trout |
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| 19:11:59 | Plugh | morning |
| 19:12:33 | * | Plugh fuels his addiction |
| 19:12:47 | Plugh | installing Cygwin and a dev environment on the laptop |
| 19:12:57 | scott666 | fun |
| 19:17:03 | Plugh | it'll make my 2 hours of commute time more productive than the games of Freecell I've been playing |
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| 19:17:46 | jorbond | stupid cd drive is slower then a turtle |
| 19:18:01 | jorbond | has taken me 20 min to rip 6 songs |
| 19:18:14 | scott666 | what ripper? |
| 19:18:40 | jorbond | abcde |
| 19:19:35 | scott666 | what OS? |
| 19:19:44 | jorbond | linux |
| 19:20:30 | jorbond | have a full spindle of cds that i want to rip to mp3 and put on my player but it will take a week lol |
| 19:20:46 | scott666 | have you tried CDex? |
| 19:20:53 | scott666 | or is that only win32 |
| 19:21:04 | scott666 | pretty sure its gpl |
| 19:22:26 | jorbond | this prog rips the whole cd, converts it to mp3, and then names all of the files for me and sorts them in a dir |
| 19:23:05 | scott666 | does it write tags too? |
| 19:24:05 | jorbond | yep |
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| 19:58:05 | elinenbe | hardeep: anything new with the patch? |
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| 20:12:33 | Triple-z | hey |
| 20:15:26 | hardeep | elinenbe: only the fix for that M/Q problem |
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| 20:20:41 | Triple-z | anyone here use the flash boot? |
| 20:21:22 | Plugh | I don't think I ever will |
| 20:21:40 | Plugh | I'm too apt to use bleeding edge builds |
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| 20:23:55 | NHeal | calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
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| 20:23:55 | NJoin | Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) |
| 20:29:24 | scott666 | bleeding edges are easy enough to flash |
| 20:29:34 | scott666 | with the ucls on the daily page now |
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| 20:32:04 | Plugh | I don't WANT to flash dailies ;) |
| 20:32:11 | scott666 | why not? |
| 20:34:01 | Plugh | I don't want to degrade the flash ram by doing too many flashes. Also, if a build is just plain broken, it'd be harder to pull it out |
| 20:34:27 | Plugh | I don't want to have to hack in a serial cable ;) |
| 20:34:29 | scott666 | oh. yeah. its only good for 100.000 times |
| 20:34:59 | * | Plugh is oldschool. Used to work with EEPROM |
| 20:35:41 | Plugh | I have a lot of hang-ups about electronics that stem from old habits |
| 20:36:52 | Triple-z | so, its not recommened to try the flash boot? |
| 20:37:07 | Plugh | Triple-z: don't let my neuroses stop you |
| 20:37:33 | scott666 | i reccomend it |
| 20:37:48 | scott666 | flashing every day, the chip will last 317 years |
| 20:37:51 | Plugh | it speeds up the boot |
| 20:37:58 | Triple-z | yeah but im also worry.. |
| 20:38:08 | Triple-z | i dont wanna fuck it up |
| 20:38:18 | Plugh | but one hiccup could render your unit a paperweight |
| 20:38:42 | scott666 | but the hiccup would have to be within a 5 second timeframe |
| 20:39:05 | Triple-z | i dont really got it yet |
| 20:39:17 | Triple-z | whats that ucl files? |
| 20:39:29 | scott666 | ucl is the file flashing requires |
| 20:39:45 | scott666 | its a compressed binarie |
| 20:40:05 | scott666 | *binary |
| 20:40:15 | Plugh | I'm a paranoid geek. I've had "harmless operations" turn my 200 day UNIX uptime into a week's downtime |
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| 20:42:46 | scott666 | lol |
| 20:45:01 | combthins | Hello all |
| 20:45:05 | scott666 | hey |
| 20:45:33 | combthins | PLayer with 2.0, with keylock on I used to get a blob between... |
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| 20:45:50 | combthins | play and pause symbols on display. |
| 20:46:41 | combthins | Now with latest builds this has gone. Anyone know if it is deliberately removed for some reason, or has it got broken? |
| 20:48:22 | scott666 | no idea, i dont have a player |
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| 20:54:27 | NHeal | calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 20:54:27 | NJoin | _aLF [0] (~alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-10-235.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
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| 20:59:01 | rhyno666 | i did? |
| 20:59:13 | rhyno666 | hey, wtf? |
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| 21:07:10 | nevs | hey |
| 21:07:33 | scott666 | hey |
| 21:07:37 | nevs | hey scott |
| 21:07:59 | nevs | i found loads of spyware with kazaa, but changed to kazaa lite and found none |
| 21:08:15 | scott666 | still not as good as winms |
| 21:08:18 | scott666 | *winmx |
| 21:08:26 | scott666 | www.winmx.com |
| 21:08:26 | nevs | i used win mx before |
| 21:08:32 | nevs | to much queing! |
| 21:08:45 | nevs | it takes to long |
| 21:09:02 | scott666 | depends on what you get |
| 21:09:25 | scott666 | but i havnt seen the RIAA try to subpeona any winmx users |
| 21:10:12 | nevs | what if u just download and dont share, can u be prosecuted for that? |
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| 21:17:25 | nevs | hey |
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| 21:49:20 | Plugh | is anon CVS down? |
| 21:50:27 | Plugh | erm |
| 21:50:36 | Plugh | apparantly not... wonder what's up |
| 21:51:53 | scott666 | anon CVS has been down for months |
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| 21:53:16 | Plugh | I just did an update on my Windows box |
| 21:53:30 | Plugh | but couldn't get one from Linux |
| 21:54:26 | Plugh | looks like it's working now |
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| 23:43:40 | * | Plugh watches the modes flow by |
| 23:52:07 | Plugh | my addiction to rockbox is getting worse. Making a mobile development platform. Installing the cross compiler on my laptop... or trying to |
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