| 00:00:21 | tracktheripper | well im glad u still talking to me |
| 00:00:24 | tracktheripper | bagder |
| 00:01:39 | tracktheripper | There is one improvement I like to make to the Peak Meter |
| 00:02:35 | diddystar5 | badger: NONE of these docs have the stuff needed about the MAS? http://www.micronas.com/products/documentation/consumer/mas3507d/index.php |
| 00:03:09 | Bagder | none |
| 00:03:28 | Bagder | they don't give out info about it on trequest either |
| 00:03:35 | Bagder | you need to sign an NDA and stuff |
| 00:03:45 | tracktheripper | Bagder I like to invert the end section of the Peak Meter so it looks like the "Red zone" on a tape-deck's VU meter |
| 00:03:45 | diddystar5 | NDA? |
| 00:03:57 | Bagder | they treat it as top secret |
| 00:04:42 | Bagder | tracktheripper: so, there's one feature request for that, isn't it? file a comment there |
| 00:05:02 | tracktheripper | yea it was MY request |
| 00:05:15 | tracktheripper | but I wouldn't mind fixing it if I knew how to invert the pixels |
| 00:05:16 | Bagder | so why are you saying this? |
| 00:05:25 | Bagder | ah |
| 00:05:55 | Bagder | lcd_invertrect() |
| 00:06:12 | tracktheripper | yea but it would just be the end pixels in the LCD |
| 00:07:18 | Bagder | so pass in the correct args to the function |
| 00:07:21 | diddystar5 | you can tell it what pixels to invert with that function right? |
| 00:07:26 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:08:14 | * | diddystar5 isn't very good with all that graphics and pixel stuff |
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| 00:08:54 | diddystar5 | hey hardeep |
| 00:08:59 | hardeep | hi |
| 00:09:33 | tracktheripper | Bagder my most liked request is "Invert" |
| 00:09:36 | tracktheripper | Everyone likes that |
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| 00:13:12 | tracktheripper | hello bag |
| 00:13:20 | Bagder | hey |
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| 00:43:49 | Bagder | Kinslayer: so with your font and your patch, hebrew works in rockbox? |
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| 02:45:39 | Neo | hey guys |
| 02:45:49 | Neo | im returning my archos jukebox recorder 20 tomorrow |
| 02:45:56 | Neo | to swith it out for another one |
| 02:46:08 | Neo | and is there any way that i could tell if the rom is flashable or not |
| 02:46:18 | Neo | caue ive heard that there are some that the rom isnt flashable |
| 02:46:33 | Neo | or is it just a lucky hand |
| 02:51:13 | Neo | anyone? |
| 02:56:01 | hardeep | Neo: only way to tell is running rockbox and looking in the debug info or opening up the unit |
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| 03:00:19 | Neo_ | hey |
| 03:00:28 | Neo_ | um, any way to tell from the package? |
| 03:00:37 | hardeep | Neo_: alas, no |
| 03:00:57 | Neo_ | ok |
| 03:01:05 | Neo_ | im getting a brand new one from circuity city |
| 03:01:14 | Neo_ | is it a good chance that its flashable |
| 03:01:17 | Neo_ | my last one was flashable |
| 03:01:20 | Neo_ | and i got it there |
| 03:01:37 | hardeep | Neo_: yeah, from what i hear most are flashable |
| 03:02:29 | Neo_ | ok |
| 03:02:32 | Neo_ | yeh |
| 03:02:41 | Neo_ | im not sure if im pleased with archos though |
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| 09:20:08 | Atifear | hi |
| 09:20:42 | Bagder | hi |
| 09:21:07 | Atifear | I'd like to know something about rockbox |
| 09:21:15 | Bagder | ask ahead |
| 09:22:30 | Atifear | when I use this firmware, i've got some problems with the battery. even if it's full, the rockbox says that therer is about 20 percent of battery when i put it on and the indicator goes up slowly |
| 09:22:32 | Atifear | but |
| 09:23:13 | Atifear | when i start it, so when he says that the battery is empty, i cannot play music correcrtly bcause it stops, 'cauz of the battery |
| 09:23:48 | Atifear | but with the original firmware i haven't got any problems like that |
| 09:24:33 | Atifear | rockbox used to work perfectly with me but i have this problem for a week |
| 09:24:37 | Bagder | so what is your question? |
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| 09:24:46 | Atifear | is this normal? |
| 09:24:57 | Bagder | that you get battery problems? |
| 09:24:59 | Atifear | i use dialy builds |
| 09:25:01 | Atifear | yes |
| 09:25:04 | Bagder | I don't get battery problems |
| 09:25:11 | Atifear | ok |
| 09:25:20 | Bagder | are you sure your batteries are good? |
| 09:25:55 | Atifear | i think yes bedause they work good with the orgininal FW |
| 09:28:11 | Atifear | I hoped taht it's a dialy build's bug but it seems not |
| 09:30:38 | Atifear | i'm trying the last dialy build and it says 100% of battery, i'll try this one |
| 09:31:29 | Atifear | what's the better disk spindows and anti-skip buffer's settings? |
| 09:31:48 | Bagder | leave em on default |
| 09:31:57 | Atifear | in order to have a good anti-skip/battery compromise (sorry about my bad english) |
| 09:31:59 | Atifear | ok |
| 09:32:51 | Atifear | so, thanks for you help |
| 09:33:09 | Atifear | good bye |
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| 11:35:14 | tracktheripper | morning (-: |
| 11:35:52 | tracktheripper | hi bagder |
| 11:36:15 | Bagder | hi |
| 11:37:27 | tracktheripper | whats up? |
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| 13:01:52 | MT | Bagder: any leads on the mysterious power problems flashed fmr have? |
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| 13:18:44 | Bagder | not in my end |
| 13:20:10 | MT | shame :/ |
| 13:20:58 | Bagder | I don't even have a fmr |
| 13:21:42 | MT | off topic: my headphone out has become quite 'erratic', only playing left side, no right side - easy to fix (im guessing loose connection) or better to rma the unit |
| 13:21:50 | MT | should still be under warranty .. |
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| 15:25:26 | Guest | hi all... if anyone is around that is |
| 15:25:35 | * | Bagder is around |
| 15:26:26 | Bagder | a little at least ;-) |
| 15:26:34 | Guest | I had a quick question but im goig to check the site first so i dont annoy you ... |
| 15:26:35 | Guest | brb |
| 15:27:56 | Guest | hmmm |
| 15:28:41 | Guest | well i have had a few problems with my rockbox firmware but there seems to be an update |
| 15:28:45 | Guest | maybe that will fix my problems |
| 15:29:18 | Guest | songs stop playing, player freezes, and recently during play the whole screen was messed up, showing the graphic bars on the bottom all wierd and the top information like battery life and volume all missing |
| 15:29:28 | Guest | then yesterday all that missing messed up stuff fixed itself |
| 15:29:29 | Bagder | ough |
| 15:29:38 | Guest | plus when i boot up |
| 15:29:42 | Guest | and this is since day one |
| 15:29:51 | Guest | it shows archos bootup first, is this always going to do that? |
| 15:29:55 | Bagder | yes |
| 15:29:57 | Guest | maybe i didn't install properly |
| 15:30:00 | Bagder | unless you flash it |
| 15:30:23 | Guest | meaning? |
| 15:30:53 | Bagder | you're loading rockbox from disk, so the archos firmware of course starts first |
| 15:30:59 | Bagder | then loads rockbox from disk |
| 15:31:06 | Guest | right |
| 15:31:09 | Bagder | the archos one is built-in to the flash rom |
| 15:31:17 | Guest | thats what i figured |
| 15:31:21 | Bagder | but you can replace the flash rom contents too these days |
| 15:31:27 | Guest | really... |
| 15:31:35 | Guest | i think i was reading about that |
| 15:31:38 | Guest | is it a quicker boot? |
| 15:31:41 | Bagder | much |
| 15:31:50 | Bagder | from about 15 seconds down to perhaps 3 |
| 15:31:55 | Guest | is that just another download or is it more complex |
| 15:31:59 | Bagder | more complex |
| 15:32:12 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html |
| 15:32:17 | Guest | maybe i should just fix my stuff first heh... |
| 15:32:21 | Guest | i also want a larger hard drive |
| 15:32:31 | Guest | but i think im going to wait until larger ones come out |
| 15:32:54 | Bagder | larger than 80GB? |
| 15:33:06 | Guest | yeah |
| 15:33:16 | Guest | I'd like 120 or 200 |
| 15:33:37 | Bagder | hehe |
| 15:33:43 | Bagder | it'll take a while until we get there |
| 15:33:50 | Bagder | for 9.5mm 2.5" |
| 15:35:43 | Guest | i dunno |
| 15:35:53 | Guest | i swear this one site was selling 120gb upgrades on ebay |
| 15:35:57 | Bagder | nope |
| 15:35:57 | Guest | but their site said only 80 |
| 15:36:03 | Bagder | 80 is the biggest made |
| 15:36:07 | Bagder | atm |
| 15:36:12 | Guest | i asked and they said it just hadnt been updated yet so i waited and now they say they never had that |
| 15:36:13 | Guest | yeah |
| 15:36:20 | Guest | 80 isnt bad though |
| 15:36:21 | Bagder | and it is still expensive |
| 15:36:28 | Guest | yeah about $350 |
| 15:36:34 | Guest | but not too expensive if you think about it |
| 15:36:43 | Guest | say six hundred total for the player and update |
| 15:36:57 | Guest | hell my PSB floor speakers cost that alone |
| 15:37:24 | Guest | 20,000 songs in a walkman sounds worth it to me |
| 15:37:32 | Guest | I also need to get a large external hard drive |
| 15:37:37 | Guest | the 250's look nice |
| 15:37:45 | Guest | My computer is too small for all this music |
| 15:38:02 | Guest | but I'll have to upgrade to a usb2 and i dunno if i can even do that |
| 15:39:47 | Bagder | you have a recorder20? |
| 15:39:51 | elinenbe | Bagder: what's new? |
| 15:40:14 | Bagder | elinenbe: not very much |
| 15:40:31 | Bagder | I modified the names of the daily builds, that's all I've done today |
| 15:40:45 | Guest | yeah the recorder |
| 15:40:55 | Bagder | Guest: then you can just get a usb2 card |
| 15:41:03 | Bagder | cheap and easy |
| 15:41:09 | Guest | i was going to get the multimedia because well its definately very cool , but decided not to take the hit in battery life |
| 15:41:27 | Guest | i think I'll get the rca video model its cheap and small with a 20gb hard drive |
| 15:41:47 | Bagder | I don't care for video on a tiny screen |
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| 15:42:30 | nevs | hello |
| 15:42:43 | Bagder | hi |
| 15:42:56 | Guest | tiny screen? |
| 15:43:03 | nevs | what? |
| 15:43:12 | Bagder | Guest: the multimedia |
| 15:43:18 | Guest | just think of it as a portable hard drive with visual access but you can hook it up to any tv very easily |
| 15:43:29 | Guest | i'd like it for trips and stuff |
| 15:43:35 | Bagder | I wouldn't |
| 15:43:51 | Guest | you can watch on the tiny screen in the car then hook it up to your friends tv with all your favorite movies instead of lugging them around |
| 15:43:58 | Guest | hehe well im not trying to sell you |
| 15:44:03 | Guest | to each their own |
| 15:44:59 | Guest | I'd like to one day have the expanded mp3 player, an expanded video player with camera, and a G3 phone with internet acces |
| 15:45:09 | Guest | course thats a lot to lug around |
| 15:45:15 | nevs | yeah |
| 15:45:48 | nevs | just get a sony erisson p800 with mp3 player phone |
| 15:45:58 | Guest | one toy with all that would make me pee my pants.... 400gb hard drive in a cell phone with a camera, A/v In and out, cable ready and with bluetooth tech hehe |
| 15:46:56 | Bagder | bluetooth? |
| 15:47:03 | Bagder | take a week to copy a film :-) |
| 15:47:12 | nevs | no |
| 15:47:27 | nevs | but u coulld have wirless video and audio transimmisons |
| 15:47:35 | nevs | no cables |
| 15:47:42 | Bagder | bluetooth is ~1 mbit/sec |
| 15:47:46 | Bagder | usb 1.1 is 12 |
| 15:47:50 | Bagder | usb 2 is 480 |
| 15:48:14 | Bagder | real wifi would be wiser |
| 15:48:15 | nevs | maybe they will make bluetooth 2 |
| 15:48:32 | Bagder | yeah, but I see no point |
| 15:48:33 | nevs | at 100 |
| 15:48:38 | nevs | be nice |
| 15:48:41 | Bagder | 802.11 rocks |
| 15:48:50 | nevs | i got sony erricosn t68i and its got bluetooth |
| 15:48:55 | Guest | im looking up the ericsson right now |
| 15:49:01 | Bagder | so? |
| 15:49:07 | Guest | i just like the idea of my tech talking to each other |
| 15:49:17 | Bagder | bluetooth is made for tiny gadgets, not for data transfers of any considerable size |
| 15:49:24 | Guest | walk in the room and my pda updates my computer, downloads new contact info from my phone to my main organizer etc |
| 15:49:28 | nevs | i know but its nice |
| 15:49:32 | Guest | i dont even have a pda though because the current tech sucks |
| 15:49:44 | Bagder | I think real wireless networking is a lot nicer |
| 15:49:48 | nevs | wifi |
| 15:49:53 | nevs | yeah |
| 15:49:55 | Bagder | qne can be done at 55 mbit/sec already today |
| 15:49:59 | Bagder | and |
| 15:50:16 | dwihno | Wireless for me! |
| 15:50:19 | dwihno | Gimme wireless! |
| 15:50:20 | Bagder | at a larger distance than bluetoorg even |
| 15:50:23 | Bagder | tooth |
| 15:50:31 | nevs | yeah |
| 15:50:40 | nevs | how expensive is it |
| 15:50:42 | dwihno | I want wireless link to my friend who lives approx 350 meters away. Is it psosible? |
| 15:51:07 | Bagder | dwihno: there boosters that surely will make it possible, otherwise it might be hard |
| 15:51:16 | Bagder | there are |
| 15:51:41 | nevs | how expensive is it? |
| 15:51:52 | Bagder | I don't know |
| 15:51:58 | dwihno | Bagder: "boosters"? |
| 15:52:14 | Bagder | well, "signal enhancers" then |
| 15:52:19 | Bagder | stronger antennas |
| 15:52:22 | dwihno | mkay |
| 15:52:25 | Bagder | I don't know the proper word for it |
| 15:52:29 | Guest | see from what i was reading on the website it seems like the future plans of bluetooth and the like, is that not only can you link directly to your own stuff and the internet but you can access stuff through other peoples gadgets |
| 15:52:31 | dwihno | Roof mounted anntennae for my house and his? |
| 15:52:34 | nevs | how do u use a wifi card, becuase i know you get them pcmcia cards, but ? for a desktop |
| 15:52:48 | Guest | i like the idea of having pure access to anything anywhere because everyone has the tech |
| 15:52:52 | Guest | no dead zones |
| 15:52:58 | Bagder | nevs: you get a pci card |
| 15:53:01 | dwihno | No dead zones... Yum |
| 15:53:06 | dwihno | I'll get a PCMCIA card. |
| 15:53:10 | dwihno | PCMCIA for the people! |
| 15:53:11 | Guest | but im also a high promoter of multi-platforms run at once |
| 15:53:17 | nevs | but surley thats got to take up alot of space |
| 15:53:25 | Guest | i hate the fact that if its rainy my cell phone sucks |
| 15:53:28 | Bagder | nevs: what is? |
| 15:53:43 | Guest | theres no reason it cant revert to alternate technology when its main operation isnt as good |
| 15:53:46 | nevs | doesnt a wifi have an atena sticking out of it |
| 15:54:01 | Bagder | a tiny bit, yes |
| 15:54:08 | Bagder | I guess it depends on the card/model |
| 15:54:09 | Guest | why cant a cell phone be cellular, satalite, and short range at the same time? |
| 15:54:10 | nevs | so in a desktop |
| 15:54:49 | nevs | on laptop pcmcia cards there about 10-15cm long |
| 15:55:18 | Bagder | ? |
| 15:55:22 | Bagder | not mine |
| 15:55:32 | Bagder | its about 2cm outside the laptop |
| 15:55:44 | dwihno | Bagder: you got a wifi card? |
| 15:55:48 | nevs | i suppose its about how far u want the range to go |
| 15:55:51 | Bagder | dwihno: yes |
| 15:56:13 | dwihno | Bagder: anything that is sticking up? I have a USB2 card in the above compartment which does not allow anything too big below :) |
| 15:56:19 | dwihno | WiFi-Bagder |
| 15:56:27 | Bagder | its not sticking up at all |
| 15:56:33 | nevs | does anyone like formulae one racing here? |
| 15:56:33 | Bagder | it sticks out perhaps 15mm |
| 15:56:43 | nevs | go to http://www.knplogic.co.uk/are_u_mad.html |
| 15:57:00 | Guest | so you think an update to version 2.0 will probably fix my problems? |
| 15:57:27 | Bagder | Guest: you're using something OLDER than rockbox 2.0? |
| 15:57:27 | nevs | did u go to that link? |
| 15:57:38 | dwihno | Bagder: What card do you have? |
| 15:57:45 | Bagder | dwihno: a dlink one |
| 15:57:47 | Guest | think so my player is in the car |
| 15:57:48 | Guest | maybe im wrong |
| 15:57:53 | dwihno | The best thing about my work: Free hot choco :-) |
| 15:58:01 | Guest | maybe i just need to reinstall the software |
| 15:58:05 | Bagder | Guest: you should consider upgrading to 2.0, or even a recent daily build |
| 15:58:08 | dwihno | (which actually tastes yum yum) |
| 15:58:09 | nevs | dwihno go to http://www.knplogic.co.uk/are_u_mad.html |
| 15:58:20 | dwihno | Bagder: I do not like those dlink cards :/ |
| 15:58:41 | Bagder | I'm actually not using it yet, so I don't know how it delivers |
| 15:59:04 | Guest | oh and is there a "lock" option? |
| 15:59:10 | nevs | what ya think dwihno? |
| 15:59:18 | Guest | i could never figure out how to lock the player so pressing buttons didnt do anything untill you unlocked it |
| 15:59:19 | Bagder | Guest: yes, I suggest you read the manual |
| 15:59:33 | Guest | i did quickly, guess i should again! heh sorry |
| 15:59:43 | Bagder | no problem |
| 15:59:56 | nevs | dwhino |
| 16:00 |
| 16:00:59 | Guest | i also need to figure out a better sorting system. I currently use alphabetical folders so all songs that start with the letter A go into files A1 A2 A3 but i usually end up listening to only like 20 bands because they are the ones i remember, i completey forget about others that are in folders i dont visit often |
| 16:01:26 | nevs | no |
| 16:01:35 | nevs | use artists then albums then tracks |
| 16:01:46 | Bagder | use playlists |
| 16:01:53 | dwihno | nevs: well, not too funny |
| 16:01:58 | Guest | I'm also trying to save my cd collection. They are all majorly scratched and its taking so long to copy, pick out the good ones, then transfer |
| 16:02:07 | nevs | it was good wasnt it |
| 16:02:08 | Guest | thank god for weblisten.com |
| 16:02:20 | Guest | i definately plan on playlists |
| 16:02:29 | Guest | but wantd to make sure i got rockbox working before i wasted my time |
| 16:02:40 | nevs | i think it was quite good dwihno |
| 16:03:09 | dwihno | If it had some monty python humour, I might have smiled at least. |
| 16:03:16 | nevs | hang on which is better recorder 20 or fm recorder 20 |
| 16:03:46 | nevs | ? |
| 16:04:14 | Bagder | nevs: it depends on your personal preferences, I'd say |
| 16:04:26 | Guest | fm recorder has fm player |
| 16:04:26 | nevs | are they worth the same |
| 16:04:28 | Guest | that you can record |
| 16:04:36 | PsycoXul | i think the old recorders are constructed better, and it's nice that it's batteries are so widely available... |
| 16:04:43 | Guest | it has some awsome recording options if thats your bag |
| 16:04:59 | nevs | are they worth the same price |
| 16:05:02 | Bagder | nevs: if you don't mind a LiIo battery you can't change, and the lack of digital in, the go for the FM |
| 16:05:04 | Guest | eh i have a slightly older model with no screws holding the battery in |
| 16:05:07 | Guest | how dumb is that? |
| 16:05:07 | PsycoXul | but the fm's give you a recordable fm radio, and the 2200mah li-ion battery is also nice |
| 16:05:29 | PsycoXul | Bagder: you can change it, you just can't get one to change it with :p |
| 16:05:36 | Bagder | hehe |
| 16:05:37 | Bagder | true ;-) |
| 16:05:41 | Guest | i find the battery in the fm recorder coupled with rockbox is extremely good |
| 16:05:50 | Guest | i can get 14+ hours sometimes |
| 16:05:52 | nevs | are they worth the same price ? |
| 16:05:56 | Guest | i generally charge after three or four days |
| 16:06:07 | PsycoXul | nevs: that probably depends on the store and market conditions and promotions and such |
| 16:06:20 | nevs | i found them both for $254 |
| 16:06:29 | nevs | thats quite good isnt it? |
| 16:06:39 | Guest | use ebay |
| 16:06:51 | elinenbe | how come there is such big mentions of buymusic.com and itunes but never weblisten? |
| 16:07:01 | nevs | http://store.yahoo.com/ourstore-2000/archos.html |
| 16:07:17 | Guest | because weblisten isnt teh same |
| 16:07:35 | Guest | they use a spanish loophole that allows you to access music regardless of american copyright laws |
| 16:07:40 | Guest | sort of like puretunes which just came out |
| 16:07:48 | Guest | cept weblisten has been around a long time |
| 16:08:11 | Guest | you can get a weekend pass for $14.04 and download thousands of songs |
| 16:08:33 | Guest | better then p2p and you cant get in trouble becaues the page clearly states that it has the permission of the artists to distribute the music |
| 16:09:04 | Guest | and also buymusic.com and itunes put heavy restrictions on how you can handle your mp3's. Sometimes you cant even get the songs to copy to your mp3 player |
| 16:09:09 | Guest | oh yeah and itunes is for mac only |
| 16:10:36 | nevs | i need a piece of freeware, i need to convert .wma files to .mp3 but i think the .wma files have got DRM, how do i get rid of it? |
| 16:11:30 | PsycoXul | mplayer? |
| 16:11:45 | nevs | ? |
| 16:12:02 | PsycoXul | it tends to be proud of circumventing microsoft's media's download and copying restriction |
| 16:12:25 | nevs | so will that work |
| 16:12:34 | PsycoXul | maybe try it |
| 16:12:34 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 16:12:39 | nevs | if i get mplayer it will get rid of the drm |
| 16:13:03 | PsycoXul | i never tried any .wma's |
| 16:13:23 | PsycoXul | but if it supports it, it'll let you decode it so you can encode it however you want, and it'll probably be able to reencode it itself if you like |
| 16:13:33 | nevs | whats the website |
| 16:14:07 | PsycoXul | mplayerhq.hu |
| 16:14:38 | nevs | movie player for linux? |
| 16:14:42 | nevs | what? |
| 16:14:49 | PsycoXul | what what? |
| 16:15:03 | PsycoXul | it plays everything |
| 16:15:03 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 16:15:11 | nevs | cool |
| 16:15:15 | nevs | is it freeware? |
| 16:15:34 | PsycoXul | and it'll play it to the screen and/or soundcard or to other format audio/video files or decoded to frames or raw/wav audio or whatnot and etc |
| 16:15:44 | PsycoXul | yeah it's free |
| 16:16:02 | Hes | Do they still have strange rules about no binary distributions? |
| 16:16:20 | PsycoXul | there's no rules against binary distribution in most free software |
| 16:16:29 | PsycoXul | just rules against keeping the source from those you distribute it to |
| 16:16:39 | PsycoXul | you have to let them access the source too |
| 16:16:40 | PsycoXul | heh |
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| 16:21:03 | PsycoXul | the idea with that is just so that it's not only born free, but stays free heh |
| 16:24:54 | Hes | mplayer used to have strange rules, it wasn't _that_ free |
| 16:25:14 | Hes | which is why it isn't in the distributions (or wasn't?) |
| 16:26:43 | PsycoXul | oh hmm |
| 16:28:22 | nevs | hello |
| 16:28:31 | nevs | does this mplayer work for windows? |
| 16:28:53 | dwihno | there's a win32 port |
| 16:29:02 | Bagder | people still use windows? |
| 16:29:04 | Bagder | B-] |
| 16:29:12 | dwihno | :-) |
| 16:29:28 | dwihno | Well, that Linux stuff has not had pre-emptive multitasking for centuries. |
| 16:29:36 | nevs | u guys on linux? |
| 16:29:41 | * | Bagder is |
| 16:30:07 | nevs | so where do i find mplayer for win |
| 16:30:17 | dwihno | nevs: w8, I'll fetch you da URL thing |
| 16:30:26 | dwihno | http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta/ |
| 16:30:28 | dwihno | there U go |
| 16:31:05 | nevs | thx |
| 16:31:25 | nevs | which one do i want? |
| 16:32:47 | dwihno | try them out |
| 16:32:49 | nevs | dwihno |
| 16:33:33 | nevs | ok |
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| 16:50:05 | nevs | hey |
| 16:50:09 | nevs | i downloaded one |
| 16:50:21 | nevs | but there are no menus for converting? |
| 16:50:38 | PsycoXul | rtfm |
| 16:50:38 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 16:51:14 | PsycoXul | being commandline has advantages, like scriptability |
| 16:53:24 | Bagder | command lines we like |
| 16:54:41 | nevs | so how do i do it |
| 16:55:29 | Bagder | you read the docs |
| 16:55:38 | Bagder | I have no clue |
| 16:56:13 | nevs | i found one program |
| 16:56:18 | nevs | but i need a key reg |
| 16:56:26 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 16:56:32 | PsycoXul | this one you just need to read the manual |
| 16:56:33 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 16:56:36 | nevs | i dont want to pay 20 bucks |
| 16:56:55 | PsycoXul | then pay a few minutes of attention to the manual |
| 16:56:56 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 16:57:34 | PsycoXul | here try this |
| 16:57:54 | PsycoXul | mplayer -dumpadio -dumpfile blah.raw blah.wma |
| 16:57:57 | PsycoXul | er |
| 16:58:00 | PsycoXul | mplayer -dumpaudio -dumpfile blah.raw blah.wma |
| 16:58:01 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 16:58:24 | PsycoXul | oh wait that might not be it |
| 16:58:37 | PsycoXul | i thought it said uncompressed but it says raw compressed audio stream |
| 16:59:17 | nevs | do u know what .adf audio is, can i convert to that from .wma |
| 16:59:31 | PsycoXul | never heard of adf |
| 16:59:35 | PsycoXul | ok it's |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:20 | PsycoXul | mplayer -ao pcm -aofile blah.wav blah.wma |
| 17:00:22 | PsycoXul | try that |
| 17:00:40 | nevs | i dont understand |
| 17:00:49 | nevs | where do i type this in |
| 17:00:55 | PsycoXul | the commandline |
| 17:01:26 | nevs | whcih is where |
| 17:01:29 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 17:01:44 | Bagder | you have a long way to go |
| 17:01:46 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 17:01:49 | nevs | u mean cmd.exe |
| 17:01:54 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 17:01:55 | PsycoXul | that |
| 17:01:55 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 17:02:57 | PsycoXul | i dunno anything about mplayer for windows though, how it needs to be installed or whatnot |
| 17:04:25 | PsycoXul | but one way or another you run it on the file with those options and you'll get a .wav file that you can use any encoder you like on to make an mp3 or whatever |
| 17:05:09 | nevs | ok |
| 17:05:32 | nevs | if i click onmplayer.exe |
| 17:05:40 | nevs | mplayer.exe* |
| 17:06:21 | nevs | a quick command line box comes up then dissapears |
| 17:06:52 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 17:06:54 | PsycoXul | sounds right |
| 17:07:01 | PsycoXul | it's a commandline program |
| 17:07:04 | PsycoXul | you have to run it from the commandline |
| 17:07:05 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 17:07:39 | nevs | ok |
| 17:09:02 | nevs | so i have to locate the mplayer.exe in the cmd and run it yeah? |
| 17:09:14 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 17:09:41 | PsycoXul | if it got installed or whatever, and you're lucky, maybe it'll be in your path |
| 17:09:41 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 17:10:05 | PsycoXul | so first of all try just typing mplayer on the commandline and see what it says |
| 17:10:23 | PsycoXul | unless it didn't have an installer or anything |
| 17:10:24 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 17:12:19 | nevs | i get media player |
| 17:12:28 | PsycoXul | ? |
| 17:13:05 | Bagder | yes media player is called mplayer too I think |
| 17:13:11 | Bagder | the actuall command |
| 17:13:19 | nevs | but its windows meadi player |
| 17:14:05 | Bagder | so run the one that is mplayer |
| 17:14:24 | nevs | ok |
| 17:14:30 | nevs | i put a folder called mp on the desktop |
| 17:14:35 | nevs | on the cmd |
| 17:14:52 | nevs | dos prompt , what do i type in to locate that folder |
| 17:14:59 | Bagder | I have no idea |
| 17:15:02 | Bagder | that is windows woodoo |
| 17:15:10 | Bagder | I rather not think about it |
| 17:15:27 | Bagder | I would make a folder on the C: drive |
| 17:15:33 | nevs | yeah ok |
| 17:16:24 | nevs | im in it |
| 17:16:27 | nevs | ive done it |
| 17:16:50 | nevs | ive got a page about all the keys and stuff |
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| 17:17:25 | nevs | hello |
| 17:18:29 | nevs | bagder |
| 17:19:37 | nevs | anyone |
| 17:21:31 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 17:22:00 | nevs | hey |
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| 17:23:01 | PsycoXul | ok so give the command to run it first and then a space and "-ao pcm -aofile" (without quotes) and another space and the name of the wav file you wanna make and then the (path to, if necessary, and) name of the wma file and then enter |
| 17:23:56 | PsycoXul | so maybe like "mplayer -ao pcm -aofile some_thing.wav c:\someplace\some_thing.wma" or whatever |
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| 17:36:50 | _aLF | hi |
| 17:39:42 | scott666 | hey |
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| 19:37:36 | msoultan | anyone here? |
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| 19:46:01 | bove | when using the archos recorder 20 with a daily build of rockbox for the past week installed, is it possible to lower the gain on the built in microphone past where it stops? It seems as if there is not enogh room to lower it enough when dealing with a high amplitude sound source. |
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| 20:03:20 | msoultan | hey |
| 20:03:50 | msoultan | I've got a recorder 20, and it hangs every time during playback with recent builds within the first few seconds |
| 20:04:02 | aodh | hello, i broke the harddrive in my archos (recorder 15 gig) and i am looking at a 60 gig toshiba... could anyone give any advice? i've read all the news group posts |
| 20:04:13 | msoultan | got me.. |
| 20:05:06 | aodh | haha... i think both of us are lost :) |
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| 20:12:23 | Plugh | morning |
| 20:16:20 | scott666 | afternoon |
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| 20:20:54 | Plugh | what's news? I've been dropping acid in the woods for the last 4 days and lost touch |
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| 20:23:34 | scott666 | not sure, ive been drinking in the woods for that last 3 days |
| 20:23:56 | scott666 | the non-evil definition of 'camping' |
| 20:26:45 | scott666 | 'give a man a fire, hell be warm for a day, set a man on fire and hell be warm for the rest of his life' |
| 20:34:34 | Plugh | I went "camping" with about 350 of my best friends, and we consumed a LOT of chemical alterants of all sorts, and cranked up a 40kW generator with a sound system that could take advantage of it |
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| 20:41:23 | Triple-z | hey |
| 20:41:28 | Plugh | hiya |
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| 21:00:57 | tracktheripper | hello |
| 21:01:03 | MiChAeLoL | hello |
| 21:01:03 | MiChAeLoL | how would i go about getting a .se domain? |
| 21:02:41 | MiChAeLoL | cool... |
| 21:02:46 | * | MiChAeLoL reads about flashing the firmware |
| 21:06:30 | tracktheripper | :D |
| 21:06:37 | MiChAeLoL | have you done it yet? |
| 21:06:43 | tracktheripper | no |
| 21:06:45 | Triple-z | i did |
| 21:06:47 | tracktheripper | too scared to do it |
| 21:06:49 | MiChAeLoL | im going to |
| 21:07:04 | Triple-z | do it, i was so sceard too.. but its awesome |
| 21:07:09 | * | MiChAeLoL flashes his mod chip all the time |
| 21:07:11 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 21:07:22 | tracktheripper | I have a recorder 10 which i think is nonflassable |
| 21:07:46 | MiChAeLoL | looks foolproof, if theres 2 bios on it, its not gunna get messed up |
| 21:07:56 | MiChAeLoL | lol unless you unplug it in the middle |
| 21:08:29 | tracktheripper | as long as rockbox works is there any need for flashing? |
| 21:08:42 | MiChAeLoL | nope |
| 21:08:49 | MiChAeLoL | just makes the boot time like instant |
| 21:08:58 | Plugh | there's constant new features |
| 21:09:12 | MiChAeLoL | and you can boot up the old one if ya want |
| 21:09:19 | MiChAeLoL | without doing anywork |
| 21:09:59 | * | MiChAeLoL runs to get his box to check the flash chip on it |
| 21:10:14 | scott666 | well tyou have to getthe new ucl, thats SOME work |
| 21:10:43 | Triple-z | whats your wps setting guys? |
| 21:11:17 | scott666 | custom |
| 21:11:31 | Plugh | default currently |
| 21:11:36 | scott666 | and complicated |
| 21:11:45 | Plugh | been a little busy to hack on it |
| 21:12:13 | MiChAeLoL | hell yea |
| 21:12:25 | MiChAeLoL | m=bf D=D6 |
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| 21:15:26 | MiChAeLoL | do i have to use the version of rockbox that they used when they flashed it? |
| 21:15:34 | scott666 | no |
| 21:15:39 | MiChAeLoL | excellent |
| 21:15:49 | scott666 | you want to update to the lastest daily build |
| 21:15:59 | MiChAeLoL | yep |
| 21:16:02 | MiChAeLoL | hehe http://omen.ru/f/fun/meln/prev/1/1.jpg |
| 21:16:32 | MiChAeLoL | but i do want to use there firmware_flash.rock (the plugin for this job) |
| 21:16:32 | MiChAeLoL | firmware_rec.bin or firmware_fm.bin (the complete firmware for your model, with my bootloader and the two images) |
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| 21:17:52 | tracktheripper | erm, does flashing knock the Archos firmware out for good? |
| 21:18:05 | MiChAeLoL | nope |
| 21:18:12 | MiChAeLoL | just starts rockbox by default |
| 21:18:23 | MiChAeLoL | then if you hold f1 it starts the archos firmware |
| 21:18:25 | tracktheripper | because i was gonna ask what happens if u need to use the Archos firmware? |
| 21:18:35 | MiChAeLoL | you hold f1 when ya start it |
| 21:19:09 | tracktheripper | ok |
| 21:19:15 | tracktheripper | my archos isnt flashable anyway |
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| 21:20:17 | MiChAeLoL | damn this is gunna kick ass http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/rockbox_flash_boot.avi |
| 21:23:18 | MiChAeLoL | what is rockbox_flash.rock ? |
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| 21:23:46 | Triple-z | the plugin |
| 21:24:09 | MiChAeLoL | then whats firmware_flash.rock |
| 21:26:25 | MiChAeLoL | does the ajz have games? |
| 21:27:05 | MiChAeLoL | oh wait i should use the ucl version then |
| 21:27:58 | MiChAeLoL | so should the ajz im using be the ucl version? |
| 21:28:03 | MiChAeLoL | or the ajz version |
| 21:28:09 | MiChAeLoL | to flash it |
| 21:28:52 | hardeep | MiChAeLoL: read and follow the instructions posted, it's all explained there |
| 21:29:08 | MiChAeLoL | i got it |
| 21:29:11 | MiChAeLoL | the ucl version |
| 21:34:26 | MiChAeLoL | so before i do this, do i load the .ucl or .ajz right before i flash it? |
| 21:34:36 | * | MiChAeLoL doesnt get the point to the .ucl |
| 21:34:55 | MiChAeLoL | because on the page with the downloads it says "ucl - File to use when flashing Rockbox " |
| 21:35:12 | MiChAeLoL | but on the other guide it says to copy the .ajz file |
| 21:36:41 | hardeep | MiChAeLoL: read and follow the following instructions: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html |
| 21:37:02 | MiChAeLoL | thats what im doing |
| 21:37:20 | MiChAeLoL | dont get why it says to use the .ucl on the download page and the .ajz on that page |
| 21:39:41 | Triple-z | whats the best batt's for the AJB? |
| 21:40:06 | * | MiChAeLoL wonders which version to use |
| 21:40:10 | MiChAeLoL | do i use ajz or .ucl? |
| 21:41:34 | Triple-z | if your flashin, u need ucl |
| 21:41:39 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 21:41:44 | MiChAeLoL | thanks |
| 21:42:00 | MiChAeLoL | so i copy both to the jukebox |
| 21:42:21 | MiChAeLoL | or just ajbrec.ucl? |
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| 21:46:13 | MiChAeLo1 | damn shitty usb2.0 card :( randomly restarts my computer |
| 21:48:05 | MiChAeLo1 | hmmm looks like i need a newerversion with all the plugins, mine doesnt have the plugin loader :( |
| 21:49:34 | MT | o~MiChAeLo1: read the instructions in the flash zip |
| 21:49:42 | msoultan | hey |
| 21:49:47 | msoultan | anyone having problems with the current cvs? |
| 21:50:22 | msoultan | I'm running the 7/14 flash that's in the zip... tried today's abrec.ajz and it hangs with the drive light stuck on |
| 21:53:15 | msoultan | anyone? |
| 21:56:39 | * | MiChAeLo1 just figured it out |
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| 21:57:17 | MiChAeLoL | wtf? |
| 21:57:24 | MiChAeLoL | i try running it, and it says incompadible version |
| 21:57:54 | msoultan | hmm |
| 21:58:05 | msoultan | even when you just drop it in the root and reboot? |
| 21:58:18 | MiChAeLoL | yes |
| 21:58:23 | msoultan | hmmmmm |
| 21:58:24 | MiChAeLoL | no the plugin says it |
| 21:58:28 | msoultan | ohh |
| 21:58:28 | MiChAeLoL | it wont let me flash it |
| 21:58:33 | msoultan | ok |
| 21:58:35 | msoultan | first |
| 21:58:44 | msoultan | will it let you put the abrec.ajz in the root and reboot.. |
| 21:58:48 | msoultan | with today's build |
| 21:58:57 | MiChAeLoL | yes |
| 21:58:59 | msoultan | does that run.. and play |
| 21:59:01 | msoultan | ? |
| 21:59:06 | MiChAeLoL | i think so |
| 21:59:13 | msoultan | try playing a song |
| 21:59:19 | MiChAeLoL | it runs fine, but wont let me flash it |
| 21:59:22 | msoultan | ok |
| 21:59:24 | msoultan | weird |
| 21:59:28 | msoultan | now on to flashing |
| 21:59:33 | msoultan | have you flashed at all yet? |
| 21:59:39 | MiChAeLoL | nope |
| 21:59:46 | MiChAeLoL | it wont let me |
| 21:59:49 | msoultan | ok, so you're running the stock firmware, correct? |
| 21:59:59 | MiChAeLoL | when i run the flashing plugin it says incompadible version |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:02 | msoultan | yes |
| 22:00:06 | msoultan | I understand.. |
| 22:00:09 | MiChAeLoL | im running the current cvs build |
| 22:00:13 | msoultan | just work with me.. we'll get your working |
| 22:00:15 | msoultan | ok.. hold on |
| 22:00:35 | msoultan | ok |
| 22:00:38 | msoultan | what kinda player do you have? |
| 22:00:40 | msoultan | fm or rec? |
| 22:00:42 | MiChAeLoL | fm recorder |
| 22:00:47 | msoultan | go here |
| 22:00:48 | msoultan | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/ |
| 22:00:56 | msoultan | and did you get flash_fm? |
| 22:01:04 | MiChAeLoL | yes |
| 22:01:06 | msoultan | ok |
| 22:01:16 | MiChAeLoL | firmware_fm.bin |
| 22:01:20 | msoultan | now |
| 22:01:25 | msoultan | one sec.. |
| 22:01:31 | MiChAeLoL | with firmware_flash.rock |
| 22:01:44 | MiChAeLoL | and when i run firmware_flash.rock it says incompadible version |
| 22:01:45 | msoultan | take the abrec.ajz that's in that zip and load that one |
| 22:01:48 | msoultan | yes, I know |
| 22:02:02 | MiChAeLoL | i also have rockbox_flash.rock |
| 22:02:07 | msoultan | wait |
| 22:02:07 | MiChAeLoL | and when i run that it says the same thing |
| 22:02:09 | msoultan | listen |
| 22:02:19 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 22:02:31 | msoultan | you are not running the correct firmware.. |
| 22:02:50 | msoultan | what you need to do is copy the abrec.ajz from the flash_fm.zip |
| 22:02:56 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 22:03:05 | msoultan | AND copy the rockbox_flash.rock from THAT zip file |
| 22:03:10 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 22:03:11 | msoultan | then reboot the archos |
| 22:03:17 | msoultan | then try and run the plugin |
| 22:03:21 | msoultan | and it should let you run |
| 22:03:22 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 22:04:04 | msoultan | remember, that each plugin corresponds to it's build of the firmware. If your firmware is different than what the plugins were made to run under, they won't work |
| 22:04:35 | msoultan | does it run now? |
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| 22:06:17 | MiChAeLoL | ahhh |
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| 22:06:21 | msoultan | works? |
| 22:06:22 | MiChAeLoL | didnt know that |
| 22:06:32 | MiChAeLoL | still waiting so i can unplug it |
| 22:06:35 | msoultan | oh |
| 22:06:35 | msoultan | hehe |
| 22:06:43 | msoultan | now here's the tricky part |
| 22:06:52 | MiChAeLoL | all the plugin loader stuff is new to me |
| 22:06:59 | * | MiChAeLoL used to have to appily the plugins |
| 22:07:02 | msoultan | let's say you wanna upload a new firmware, you need to use the *old* loader plugin |
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| 22:07:14 | MiChAeLoL | or upgrade the plugins |
| 22:07:19 | msoultan | well.. |
| 22:07:23 | MiChAeLoL | and reflash |
| 22:07:36 | msoultan | upgrade the plugins, *and* make sure that you're running the current abrec.ajz that corresponds to those plugins |
| 22:07:56 | msoultan | now |
| 22:07:58 | msoultan | do me a favor |
| 22:08:06 | MiChAeLoL | ? |
| 22:08:07 | msoultan | you rebooted with the 7/14 code yet? |
| 22:08:15 | MiChAeLoL | not yet |
| 22:08:22 | msoultan | still flashing?? |
| 22:08:22 | MiChAeLoL | forgot to send the plugins (games) |
| 22:08:26 | msoultan | oh |
| 22:08:28 | msoultan | sheesh |
| 22:09:05 | msoultan | tell me when you're done |
| 22:11:22 | MiChAeLoL | shit |
| 22:11:30 | MiChAeLoL | ata error -32 |
| 22:11:30 | msoultan | huh? |
| 22:11:34 | msoultan | on reboot? |
| 22:11:47 | MiChAeLoL | when i was gunna turn it off |
| 22:11:52 | MiChAeLoL | and then i pushed on to debug |
| 22:12:02 | MiChAeLoL | panic ata: -32 |
| 22:12:26 | msoultan | so where are you now? |
| 22:12:35 | msoultan | as in, what state.. on, off? |
| 22:12:36 | MiChAeLoL | just rebooted |
| 22:12:38 | msoultan | k |
| 22:12:42 | MiChAeLoL | it booted shitfast |
| 22:12:46 | msoultan | yeah.. |
| 22:12:46 | msoultan | pretty dope |
| 22:12:51 | msoultan | is it running? |
| 22:13:00 | MiChAeLoL | yes |
| 22:13:04 | msoultan | ok |
| 22:13:06 | MiChAeLoL | and my buffere is 1.657 |
| 22:13:08 | MiChAeLoL | nice and fast |
| 22:13:14 | msoultan | now, you can delete the abrec.ajz file in the rooet |
| 22:13:15 | msoultan | root |
| 22:13:15 | MiChAeLoL | before it was like 1.4 at fastest |
| 22:13:23 | msoultan | however |
| 22:13:24 | msoultan | try this |
| 22:13:34 | MiChAeLoL | will it mess up my box? |
| 22:13:35 | msoultan | download the current build and copy it to your root and see if you can play a song |
| 22:13:41 | msoultan | if you don't have it, no |
| 22:13:47 | msoultan | because you don't need the abrec.ajz |
| 22:13:54 | msoultan | unless you want to use the current build |
| 22:14:29 | MiChAeLoL | i should delete the rockbox_flash |
| 22:15:19 | msoultan | you can.. |
| 22:15:44 | msoultan | hey |
| 22:15:47 | msoultan | i gotta jam |
| 22:15:53 | msoultan | if you want to try the current build |
| 22:16:01 | msoultan | copy it like any other abrec.ajz.. right into the root |
| 22:16:19 | msoultan | if it doesn't work, turn the unit on with the usb cable plugged in and then delete the abrec.ajz |
| 22:16:24 | MiChAeLoL | hold on |
| 22:16:24 | msoultan | if you get into real trouble |
| 22:16:31 | MiChAeLoL | still changing settings to my liking |
| 22:16:44 | msoultan | hold down the f1 key and power on.. that'll load the original archos firmware |
| 22:17:16 | MiChAeLoL | lol |
| 22:17:20 | MiChAeLoL | i cant turn it off |
| 22:17:21 | msoultan | I have to go to work.. |
| 22:17:24 | msoultan | wierd |
| 22:17:26 | msoultan | hold down off |
| 22:17:28 | MiChAeLoL | cant turn it off when its plugged into the wall |
| 22:17:31 | msoultan | oh |
| 22:17:32 | msoultan | yeah |
| 22:17:34 | msoultan | that's normal |
| 22:17:41 | msoultan | it always powers back on.. to charge |
| 22:17:42 | MiChAeLoL | ata error: -32 |
| 22:17:46 | msoultan | that's weird |
| 22:17:49 | msoultan | I haven't gotten that |
| 22:17:54 | msoultan | but I don't have an FM.. just rec |
| 22:17:58 | msoultan | ok. I gotta run.. good luck1 |
| 22:17:59 | msoultan | ! |
| 22:18:01 | msoultan | ciao |
| 22:18:03 | MiChAeLoL | try turning it off and holding it off button down |
| 22:18:08 | MiChAeLoL | with it plugged in |
| 22:18:11 | msoultan | I have |
| 22:18:13 | msoultan | it turns back on |
| 22:18:16 | msoultan | cya |
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| 22:18:19 | MiChAeLoL | cya |
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| 22:22:44 | MiChAeLoL | shit this owns |
| 22:22:49 | MiChAeLoL | bootsup like instantly |
| 22:25:08 | Plugh | I just can't commit to flashing mine |
| 22:26:19 | MiChAeLoL | its so much better |
| 22:26:37 | Plugh | not if the operation fucks up |
| 22:26:48 | Plugh | then you have a paperweight |
| 22:27:14 | MiChAeLoL | then you build the thinggy |
| 22:27:27 | Plugh | the serial port? |
| 22:27:59 | MiChAeLoL | yep |
| 22:34:24 | MiChAeLoL | how do i have it autoresume when i turn it on? |
| 22:39:24 | MiChAeLoL | how do i have it autoresume when i turn it on? |
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| 22:43:31 | Plugh | there's a setting under playback options for resume |
| 22:43:36 | Plugh | set to no, always, or ask |
| 22:45:58 | MiChAeLoL | ok thanks |
| 22:46:13 | MiChAeLoL | ill turn on my rockbox and do that |
| 22:46:26 | MiChAeLoL | oh wait its already on (as i hug its speedy new firmware) |
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| 23:31:36 | tracktheripper | hell |
| 23:31:38 | tracktheripper | hello |
| 23:31:39 | tracktheripper | I mean |
| 23:31:40 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 23:31:42 | Bagder | evening |
| 23:31:54 | tracktheripper | Hi Bag |
| 23:32:33 | * | tracktheripper has been playing The Sims all night |
| 23:33:52 | tracktheripper | I wish there was a way to remove the green frame when Invert is on |
| 23:36:31 | tracktheripper | my family in The Sims is the Rockbox crew |
| 23:36:31 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 23:41:32 | tracktheripper | Bagder wheres Zagor |
| 23:41:37 | tracktheripper | havent seem him for a while |
| 23:41:54 | Bagder | he's been on vacation |
| 23:42:02 | Bagder | I thought he's back now |
| 23:42:12 | Bagder | so I expect he'll appear any day |
| 23:42:13 | tracktheripper | ohh |
| 23:42:14 | tracktheripper | :) |
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| 23:42:44 | [IDC]Dragon | 'evening! |
| 23:43:26 | Bagder | hi dragon |
| 23:45:18 | tracktheripper | hi dragon |
| 23:45:29 | [IDC]Dragon | About your makefile recently: why do you create a fake ucl file if no tool? |
| 23:47:24 | Bagder | to prevent that the section is always run on subsequent invokes |
| 23:47:45 | [IDC]Dragon | so what? |
| 23:48:30 | Bagder | I guess we could remove the whole else-clause in that if |
| 23:48:55 | hardeep | [IDC]Dragon: the change you made a couple of weeks ago to move power_init() up in main.c appears to be what's causing the wrong voltage being detected on my recorder (other people have reported this as well) |
| 23:49:12 | hardeep | [IDC]Dragon: i reverted the change and everything started working again |
| 23:49:57 | [IDC]Dragon | Aha, interesting. As I wrote with my cvs commit: I hope this has no side effects... |
| 23:50:23 | hardeep | [IDC]Dragon: yeah, there's a comment by Linus when he first moved it down that said it fixed what sounds like a similar bug |
| 23:50:34 | [IDC]Dragon | I moved it up in order to have the charge screen actually charging. |
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| 23:51:52 | msoultan | anyone here with a recorder 20 that's having problems with today's build? |
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| 23:52:03 | tracktheripper | well i have a recorder 10 |
| 23:52:22 | [IDC]Dragon | hardeep, I see that comment now. Maybe there's something we can do to fix the code in the first place? |
| 23:52:52 | msoultan | you running today's build? |
| 23:52:53 | hardeep | [IDC]Dragon: agreed... i guess Linus would be the person to ask (I don't know this code at all) |
| 23:53:23 | msoultan | track: when I put it on, it just freezes when it starts playing |
| 23:53:25 | [IDC]Dragon | hardeep, yes, if he's back from vacation. |
| 23:54:24 | tracktheripper | well i havent got todays build yert |
| 23:54:49 | msoultan | hmm... |
| 23:55:00 | msoultan | lemme try once more |
| 23:55:04 | hardeep | [IDC]Dragon: this thread seems related: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-07/0653.shtml |
| 23:55:22 | hardeep | msoultan: i built my own version using latest cvs without any problems |
| 23:55:54 | hardeep | msoultan: er without any problems while playing that is |
| 23:56:37 | msoultan | wierd |
| 23:56:44 | msoultan | it just freezes up on playback |
| 23:56:52 | msoultan | here's what I did, just so you guys know what's up.. |
| 23:57:05 | msoultan | I reflashed with 7/14 according to the instructions on the rockbox site |
| 23:57:14 | msoultan | the flash version works perfectly |
| 23:57:39 | msoultan | just now I downloaded the "full" file for 8/4 and copied the abrec.ajz file and rolo'd |
| 23:57:44 | msoultan | I can move around the system just fine |
| 23:58:01 | [IDC]Dragon | hardeep: I think they moved it down after ata_init() because that takes long enough to have the ADC gather measurements for all channels. |
| 23:58:08 | msoultan | once I play a song, drive light comes on and then gets stuck on for about 20 seconds.. no sound.. and is frozen |
| 23:58:37 | [IDC]Dragon | But that has been fixed: after adc_init all channels are valid right away. |
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