| 00:00:34 | BoD[] | Santa Monica |
| 00:00:45 | BoD[] | and we also went to san fransisco and las vegas :) |
| 00:01:35 | elinenbe | ah... I just got back from Las Vegas last week (bachelor party) |
| 00:01:44 | elinenbe | I love San Fransisco too. |
| 00:01:55 | elinenbe | I dont think much about Santa Monica. |
| 00:02:19 | BoD[] | venice beach |
| 00:03:23 | elinenbe | that is a fun area to visit. |
| 00:03:33 | elinenbe | I would not want to live there, it is too dirty |
| 00:03:40 | elinenbe | it is good for people watching though |
| 00:04:36 | BoD[] | héhé :) right |
| 00:04:49 | BoD[] | what's the weather like in NY ? |
| 00:04:56 | elinenbe | HUMID! |
| 00:05:03 | elinenbe | it is only about 80F but soo humid |
| 00:05:07 | elinenbe | and it has rained all week |
| 00:05:15 | BoD[] | rain !! but it's summer |
| 00:13:02 | Ctcp | Ignored 5 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 27 minutes at the last flood |
| 00:13:02 | * | PsycoXul has sad news |
| 00:13:14 | PsycoXul | they didn't have any more archos' at bestbuy |
| 00:13:22 | PsycoXul | so i ended up with a nomad jukebox zen :/ |
| 00:13:31 | BoD[] | isn't it good ? |
| 00:13:40 | PsycoXul | it doesn't seem bad at all, but i'll still miss rockbox |
| 00:13:50 | BoD[] | is it 60g ? |
| 00:13:52 | Zagor | PsycoXul: were you in a hurry? |
| 00:14:03 | PsycoXul | no it's 20G |
| 00:14:37 | BoD[] | is the firmware good ? :) like .. to they have id3 database thingy like ipods |
| 00:15:39 | PsycoXul | Zagor: not so much in a hurry, but somewhat impatient, not wanting to drive to another town's bestbuy, and honestly the FM rec's construction disappointed me anyway, and that's all they seem to have left at the stores around here (and the one closest to us don't have them at all anymore) |
| 00:16:36 | PsycoXul | BoD[]: it doesn't seem bad.. from what i read it's the same as the other nomad jukebox's... has a bunch of search and categorization features that i'll probably not put to much use :p |
| 00:17:19 | BoD[] | ok |
| 00:19:05 | PsycoXul | hardware wise it seems to have potential... it plays mp3, wma, and wav, so maybe it's potentially ogg-capable |
| 00:19:46 | PsycoXul | plus it has some fairly fancing processing, including 4-band EQ and several presets for it, environmental effects, and time-scaling |
| 00:20:02 | Zagor | have you opened it yet? ;) |
| 00:20:04 | BoD[] | i like this |
| 00:20:07 | PsycoXul | nice blue EL backlight heh |
| 00:20:12 | PsycoXul | Zagor: opened the unit? no |
| 00:20:21 | PsycoXul | thats one big thing i'm wondering about though |
| 00:20:36 | PsycoXul | i have no idea about how feasible HD upgrades are on it |
| 00:20:59 | Zagor | well, older creative jukeboxes used a custom file system... |
| 00:21:40 | PsycoXul | oh yeah.. i think this uses the same.. i guess that does pose a problem |
| 00:22:23 | PsycoXul | another weird thing is that it apparently has recording capabilities, but you need an optional add-on that's like a remote, mic, and FM tuner all in one to do it |
| 00:22:37 | PsycoXul | and it plugs into some weird little slot-shaped jack next to the headphone jack |
| 00:23:13 | PsycoXul | that kinda bugs me, but i'm thinking it could be hax0red |
| 00:23:50 | BoD[] | why would the custom file system be a problem |
| 00:23:54 | Zagor | yeah, but probably not without examining the add-on first... |
| 00:24:31 | PsycoXul | well the slot jack has 4 contacts |
| 00:24:53 | PsycoXul | some part of it's probably pretty much just a line-in |
| 00:25:03 | Zagor | true |
| 00:26:25 | PsycoXul | the recording's accessed from a menu item |
| 00:26:43 | PsycoXul | you select it and it says to plug the remote thing in for a second, and then goes to a basic recording screen |
| 00:26:52 | PsycoXul | with meters and such |
| 00:27:11 | PsycoXul | so i could probably just try the contacts and watch those meters and find it |
| 00:29:41 | Zagor | yeah |
| 00:30:05 | PsycoXul | my first impression is that HW-wise it's superiour to the archos... but the firmware does seem to have some of the characteristic silly limitations |
| 00:30:37 | PsycoXul | like the backlight timeout.. you can select 3, 5, 15, etc from a dropdown menu... heh |
| 00:31:15 | BoD[] | :))) |
| 00:31:25 | BoD[] | that's not for the power user |
| 00:32:23 | PsycoXul | oh yeah since they have a 20GB and a 60GB version, i'd assume it's made to where they can easily put either in durring the assembly... so that gives me hope of upgradability |
| 00:32:28 | Zagor | contact creative and ask if they would like to publish their hardware specs to the rockbox project :) |
| 00:32:35 | PsycoXul | it's also got 16MB of ram |
| 00:32:36 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 00:33:16 | BoD[] | do you know have an idea of the processors inside ? |
| 00:33:19 | PsycoXul | after i familiarize myself with it's operation and am secure in it's non-defectiveness, i'll probably tear it open, see how hard it'll be to upgrade, take pics of all the boards, etc |
| 00:33:49 | PsycoXul | on the outside it's just got 7 little phillips screws |
| 00:33:58 | PsycoXul | and no warranty void stickers |
| 00:33:59 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:34:28 | Zagor | wee :) |
| 00:37:42 | PsycoXul | apparently it uses all the same file transfer stuffs as the older nomad jukebox's, which have already been all reverse engineered and implimented in a handfull of different projects |
| 00:40:46 | PsycoXul | this might be cool and fun... but in the meantime, i must sleep |
| 00:40:51 | PsycoXul | i'm up waaay past my bedtime |
| 00:41:04 | PsycoXul | and tomorrow i'll be getting my sennheiser hd-280pro headphones |
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| 00:42:58 | PsycoXul | 8 buttons plus a clickable jogwheel too, so it totals 11 inputs, 2 of which are repeatable at variable speed from one at a time to really fast heh |
| 00:43:09 | PsycoXul | anyway, night |
| 00:44:47 | BoD[] | see you :) |
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| 01:44:56 | tracktheripper | hi |
| 01:45:01 | scott666 | hey |
| 01:45:09 | tracktheripper | hi Scott |
| 01:46:03 | scott666 | www.xgamestation.com |
| 01:47:35 | scott666 | how fast is the processor in the archos? |
| 01:47:50 | tracktheripper | 12Mhz |
| 01:48:10 | Zagor | anyone here with a hitachi DK23DA drive? |
| 01:48:16 | scott666 | me |
| 01:48:47 | Zagor | do you have the red led dead problem? |
| 01:49:16 | tracktheripper | yes |
| 01:49:20 | tracktheripper | happened to me a few times |
| 01:50:23 | Zagor | scott666: someone should try this: http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-43349.html |
| 01:50:44 | Zagor | it's a firmware update for those hitachi disks |
| 01:50:52 | tracktheripper | ok |
| 01:51:21 | scott666 | hows it work/ |
| 01:51:35 | Zagor | you need to remove the drive and put it in a computer |
| 01:51:39 | Plugh | you need a thinkpad |
| 01:51:46 | Zagor | Plugh: are you sure? |
| 01:52:13 | Plugh | unless IBM has made changes in the past 10 years, I'm sure |
| 01:52:15 | Zagor | scott666: which firmware version do you have? (debug->disk info, right) |
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| 01:52:23 | scott666 | The supported models are as follows: |
| 01:52:23 | scott666 | - ThinkPad R31 |
| 01:52:24 | Plugh | but I don't count on IBM to make changes |
| 01:52:31 | Zagor | it's still worth trying |
| 01:52:57 | scott666 | zagor: hold on, ill check |
| 01:53:11 | Zagor | here's the same thing from dell: http://support.dell.com/filelib/download.aspx?FileID=51876&ReleaseID=R43169 |
| 01:53:22 | scott666 | 00j2a0a1 |
| 01:53:38 | Zagor | or here for the html page: http://support.dell.com/FileLib/Format.aspx?ReleaseID=R43169 |
| 01:53:44 | Plugh | oh, that fixes the click? |
| 01:53:46 | Plugh | cool |
| 01:53:55 | Plugh | I'd love to disable that silly click |
| 01:55:00 | scott666 | i have firmware 00J2A0A1 |
| 01:55:06 | Zagor | ok |
| 01:55:30 | Zagor | the update is A0B6 |
| 01:55:39 | Zagor | um, no |
| 01:56:00 | Zagor | "A0F3 for Hitachi 20GB DK23DA-20" |
| 01:56:19 | Zagor | lovely version numbering :) |
| 01:56:47 | scott666 | its in hex |
| 01:56:48 | scott666 | no wait |
| 01:56:50 | scott666 | theres a J |
| 01:57:02 | Plugh | we should see if we can dump the patch directly to the drive through the Archos |
| 01:57:04 | Plugh | ;) |
| 01:57:19 | Zagor | whoa :) |
| 01:57:20 | BoD[] | would it be possible ? |
| 01:57:29 | Zagor | yes |
| 01:57:29 | scott666 | yeah! lets make a plugin |
| 01:57:47 | * | Plugh instigates |
| 01:57:49 | BoD[] | how does a hard drive firmware patch work ? |
| 01:58:16 | scott666 | you put it on a floppy and boot from it i think |
| 01:58:25 | Zagor | there are ata commands to upload new firmware to the drive |
| 01:58:34 | BoD[] | oh ok :) |
| 01:59:04 | BoD[] | it would be fun to have this plugin |
| 01:59:16 | Plugh | drive patcher? |
| 01:59:22 | Plugh | yeah, that'd rock |
| 01:59:26 | BoD[] | rockbox the firmware that FIXES your drive :)) |
| 01:59:56 | Plugh | the problem with it being a plugin is the 32k limit |
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| 02:00:10 | BoD[] | oh |
| 02:00:13 | Plugh | I figure it's probably bigger than that |
| 02:00:33 | scott666 | yeah |
| 02:00:37 | scott666 | almost 700k |
| 02:00:41 | Plugh | you'd have to find a way to stream data from a file to the ATA bus |
| 02:01:00 | BoD[] | well the plugin needs a file |
| 02:01:07 | BoD[] | not that a big problem :) |
| 02:01:13 | Plugh | or perhaps even load it into the device RAM |
| 02:01:32 | Plugh | then cut the connection to the drive and patch it |
| 02:01:59 | scott666 | yeah you just have to make it make sure theres no music playing |
| 02:07:13 | scott666 | is that the silence of people in serious thought? |
| 02:07:26 | scott666 | or did everyone just lose interest |
| 02:08:58 | BoD[] | i lost interest |
| 02:09:01 | BoD[] | ;) |
| 02:10:41 | scott666 | figures |
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| 02:20:50 | Zagor | (far beoyond) bed time |
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| 02:26:02 | Plugh | I have about 8 chats going on at any one time. Didn't lose interest. Just got sucked into another window |
| 02:26:48 | scott666 | heh |
| 02:27:39 | Plugh | so, who thinks we can give people a hard drive patcher for their rockbox? :) |
| 02:29:33 | scott666 | i do! |
| 02:29:58 | Plugh | ya know... |
| 02:30:16 | Plugh | we could do it as a replacement OS |
| 02:30:48 | Plugh | who says it has to be a plugin? |
| 02:31:10 | scott666 | thats the easiest way |
| 02:31:37 | Plugh | easier to barebone a firmware image |
| 02:32:14 | Plugh | copy it to the drive, boot it to patch, then plug it into the USB and put the right firmware in |
| 02:32:23 | Plugh | that way it doesn't get used accidentally |
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| 03:26:43 | Plugh | hardeep, you missed our fun conversation :) |
| 03:27:22 | Plugh | there's a patch from Hitachi for the hard drive clicking |
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| 03:28:40 | diddystar5 | hardeep: would you add the calendar with memos v5 to cvs please? |
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| 03:32:19 | Plugh | I was trying to come up with a way to patch in Hitachi's code without having users pull the drive out and put it in a computer |
| 03:32:27 | Plugh | the patch is around 770k |
| 03:35:27 | diddystar5 | umm what is your patch for? |
| 03:36:25 | scott666 | the harddrive |
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| 03:36:42 | scott666 | and its 660k |
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| 03:37:00 | scott666 | aol, figures |
| 03:37:05 | scott666 | :-þ |
| 03:37:25 | diddystar5 | hehe i'm not the one that wants aol my dad does |
| 03:37:40 | scott666 | poor bastard |
| 03:38:23 | diddystar5 | i know aol sucks donkey pooh |
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| 03:42:04 | MT | i must have magic fingers |
| 03:42:21 | Plugh | ooh! Put em on my back. I need a massage |
| 03:42:24 | MT | 4 hrs solid playing and the earphone hasnt messed up yet |
| 03:42:52 | MT | not bad for a first time solder job, using a soldering iron that looks like it last saw action in the early 80s |
| 03:43:07 | Plugh | woot |
| 03:43:29 | Plugh | I haven't done much soldering since the late 80s |
| 03:43:36 | MT | i may give it a clean actually |
| 03:43:42 | MT | the tip looked fairly knackered |
| 03:43:59 | Plugh | but I used to be able to solder a patch wire to a surface mounted chip without too much effort |
| 03:44:05 | MT | the only bit that got hot was the side of the tip where i scraped some decade old solder off the side |
| 03:44:14 | Plugh | hehe |
| 03:44:24 | MT | i found it really disconcerting when the solder gave off smoke too :) |
| 03:44:42 | MT | i kept having to stop, boot up the unit just to reassure myself i hadnt killed it |
| 03:45:33 | Plugh | :) |
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| 03:45:43 | Plugh | don't solder on a device with the batteries in |
| 03:45:49 | Plugh | that's asking for pain |
| 03:45:57 | diddystar5_ | :) ouch |
| 03:47:08 | MT | well |
| 03:47:11 | MT | not much option |
| 03:47:25 | MT | the batteries are fully wedged in until you free the solder points |
| 03:47:37 | Plugh | ahh |
| 03:47:48 | MT | then they pretty much drop out :) |
| 03:47:49 | Plugh | FMR? |
| 03:47:59 | MT | yep |
| 03:48:08 | Plugh | yeah. silly design |
| 03:48:57 | MT | i actually prefer it to the recorder |
| 03:49:21 | MT | except for when you knock it/breathe on it, the battery clip flies off the end |
| 03:55:19 | diddystar5_ | thanks for the calendar change hardeep! |
| 03:56:31 | hardeep | Huw Smith is the guy to thank |
| 03:57:42 | diddystar5_ | huw isn't here :( but you commited it to cvs ;) |
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| 05:29:38 | Plugh | feeling schizophrenic scott? |
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| 05:37:27 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 05:37:37 | midknight2k3 | who is it who said something about office space? |
| 05:47:00 | midknight2k3 | plugh |
| 05:47:14 | midknight2k3 | you can't make the disk firmware patch into a firmware itself |
| 05:47:23 | midknight2k3 | archos supports only to 200kb and it's over 700 |
| 05:47:56 | >>> | "seen" used by midknight2k3 (LaLaLaLaLa@ACAF81CE.ipt.aol.com) [snoop prevented] |
| 05:50:38 | PsycoXul | i found an article on upgrading the HD of nomad zen's http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1186827,00.asp |
| 05:50:49 | midknight2k3 | cool |
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| 05:51:36 | PsycoXul | apparently their "filesystem" is more sortof just a method of storing the data and not so much a filesystem in the traditional sense |
| 05:51:49 | PsycoXul | one you upgrade the drive, you just re-install the firmware and start transferring your files |
| 05:51:52 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 05:51:55 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 05:51:57 | PsycoXul | no formatting or anything |
| 05:52:02 | midknight2k3 | that's nice to kniw |
| 05:52:06 | midknight2k3 | know |
| 05:52:14 | midknight2k3 | i remember that first day i came in here |
| 05:52:19 | midknight2k3 | "I have a question." |
| 05:52:38 | midknight2k3 | <PsycoXul> If you have a question, ask it. Don't state it. |
| 05:52:46 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 05:53:04 | PsycoXul | you lucky |
| 05:53:05 | midknight2k3 | at least i don't have to talk to you often :) |
| 05:53:10 | midknight2k3 | lucky? |
| 05:53:11 | midknight2k3 | i? |
| 05:53:13 | midknight2k3 | how? |
| 05:53:15 | PsycoXul | i might've just told you to hang on to it, keep it in a bottle |
| 05:53:20 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 05:53:33 | PsycoXul | with a warning of how if you don't keep an eye on it, you might wake up one day and find it gone with nothing left but an answer |
| 05:54:09 | midknight2k3 | i would have cried and never looked at rockbox again |
| 05:54:12 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 05:54:16 | midknight2k3 | to afraid of the hard drive password lock thing |
| 05:55:08 | PsycoXul | heh a google search for the terms creative zen hack returns some pretty mixed results |
| 05:55:18 | PsycoXul | actualy hack OR hacks OR hacking |
| 05:55:19 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 05:55:27 | midknight2k3 | so does "smashing a computer monitor" :\ |
| 05:56:04 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 05:56:19 | midknight2k3 | i did get a good video |
| 05:56:24 | midknight2k3 | someone shooting it with a rifle |
| 05:56:32 | midknight2k3 | and another blowtorching it |
| 05:56:34 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 05:56:36 | midknight2k3 | but that's all really |
| 05:58:20 | midknight2k3 | so who hears of this drive firmware upgrade? |
| 05:58:27 | midknight2k3 | i blew it lol |
| 05:58:33 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 05:58:37 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 05:58:55 | midknight2k3 | the neighbors had this old computer by the trash and i wanted to sneak over at night and snag the hard drive |
| 05:58:58 | midknight2k3 | the next day it's gone |
| 05:59:09 | midknight2k3 | it would have been great to throw off the roof |
| 05:59:42 | PsycoXul | heh |
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| 06:00:00 | midknight2k3 | so uh this firmware thing |
| 06:00:07 | midknight2k3 | it stops the hard drive clicks? |
| 06:02:35 | PsycoXul | heh the shutdown takes longer than the startup on this thing |
| 06:02:44 | midknight2k3 | what thing? |
| 06:02:49 | PsycoXul | the zen |
| 06:02:57 | midknight2k3 | you got the ZEN? |
| 06:03:07 | midknight2k3 | you're kidding me |
| 06:03:09 | midknight2k3 | no more rockbox? |
| 06:03:25 | PsycoXul | unless i guess you leave it shutoff for more than 24 hours.. apparently it goes into a sorta standby mode for 24 hours, so it starts up instantly within 24 hours of being shutoff |
| 06:03:30 | PsycoXul | yeah :/ |
| 06:03:33 | PsycoXul | they didn't have anything else |
| 06:03:42 | midknight2k3 | that's junk |
| 06:03:49 | midknight2k3 | WHAT IF I HAVE TO? |
| 06:03:52 | midknight2k3 | when mine dies? |
| 06:03:55 | PsycoXul | actualy so far it seems pretty good |
| 06:03:56 | midknight2k3 | i shudder to think... |
| 06:03:58 | midknight2k3 | but |
| 06:04:01 | PsycoXul | it needs a rockbox |
| 06:04:01 | midknight2k3 | no more rockbox.. |
| 06:04:04 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 06:04:06 | midknight2k3 | i agree |
| 06:04:08 | PsycoXul | but as far as hardware goes it seems better than the archos |
| 06:04:15 | midknight2k3 | really |
| 06:04:17 | midknight2k3 | tell me about it |
| 06:04:38 | PsycoXul | well it supports mp3, wma, and wav, which gives me hope for the possibility of ogg |
| 06:04:51 | midknight2k3 | you want ogg? |
| 06:04:58 | PsycoXul | indeed |
| 06:05:04 | PsycoXul | ogg>* |
| 06:05:14 | PsycoXul | well ogg isn't much in and of itself actualy |
| 06:05:17 | PsycoXul | but vorbis>* |
| 06:05:17 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:05:22 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:05:31 | midknight2k3 | there firmware update? |
| 06:05:36 | midknight2k3 | i see none |
| 06:05:40 | PsycoXul | it also has some fancy processing capabilities |
| 06:05:45 | PsycoXul | yes, there is |
| 06:05:46 | midknight2k3 | like what? |
| 06:05:48 | midknight2k3 | where? |
| 06:05:56 | midknight2k3 | processing: what, firmware:where? |
| 06:05:58 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 06:06:18 | PsycoXul | well it has time-scaling, 4-band EQ, and environmental effects (simulate various halls and rooms and such) |
| 06:06:28 | midknight2k3 | cool |
| 06:06:33 | midknight2k3 | wheres the firmware thing |
| 06:07:04 | PsycoXul | www.nomadworld.com |
| 06:07:36 | midknight2k3 | does it record? |
| 06:07:47 | PsycoXul | well |
| 06:07:48 | PsycoXul | it can |
| 06:07:56 | PsycoXul | but you supposedly need an accessory to do it |
| 06:08:09 | PsycoXul | that plugs into this little 4-contact slot-shaped jack next to the headphone jack |
| 06:08:26 | midknight2k3 | junky |
| 06:08:32 | midknight2k3 | whats the options? |
| 06:08:33 | midknight2k3 | bitrate? |
| 06:08:35 | PsycoXul | i'm gonna try to find which contacts maybe act as the line-in |
| 06:08:40 | midknight2k3 | and what else for settings |
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| 06:09:11 | PsycoXul | thats the other thing that seems kinda crappy is that what i saw for recording is just 16 or 22khz mono or stereo wav heh |
| 06:09:21 | | Part littleteapot|afk |
| 06:09:28 | midknight2k3 | what is that lol |
| 06:09:32 | midknight2k3 | no bitrate? |
| 06:09:36 | PsycoXul | wav |
| 06:09:44 | midknight2k3 | the ihp-100 can do 320kbps mp3 or wav recording |
| 06:09:51 | PsycoXul | i.e uncompressed |
| 06:09:52 | midknight2k3 | i want that crack badly |
| 06:10:04 | midknight2k3 | (crack meaning product) |
| 06:10:10 | midknight2k3 | just do you don't get any ideas |
| 06:10:10 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:10:13 | PsycoXul | i'd be suprised if it's really incapable of encoding though, but you never know |
| 06:10:14 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:10:37 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 06:11:48 | midknight2k3 | man though i wish there was a rockbox for everything |
| 06:12:01 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 06:12:16 | midknight2k3 | such as the rio riot it BADLY needs it |
| 06:20:19 | midknight2k3 | GRR |
| 06:20:27 | midknight2k3 | earHurts i hope he comes soon |
| 06:21:11 | Plugh | mmm can't wait till my order comes in |
| 06:21:20 | PsycoXul | me too |
| 06:21:31 | midknight2k3 | what order |
| 06:21:46 | Plugh | 500' cat5e, keystone wallplates, a/v cables to run my computer to the TV |
| 06:21:48 | Plugh | and |
| 06:21:59 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 06:22:04 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 06:22:07 | Plugh | a 6' USB a to mini b that the ends light blue when it's powered |
| 06:22:15 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:22:18 | midknight2k3 | WOW |
| 06:22:19 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:22:21 | midknight2k3 | what a neat site |
| 06:22:21 | Plugh | for my rockbox |
| 06:22:22 | midknight2k3 | http://lap.umd.edu/computer_rage/ |
| 06:22:46 | PsycoXul | mine's just a pair of sennheiser hd-280pro headphones that'll be getting here tomorrow |
| 06:22:49 | MT | i need another 3 pcs |
| 06:23:04 | MT | one video server to stream video around the house |
| 06:23:18 | MT | one video encoder to record and encode tv |
| 06:23:32 | PsycoXul | midknight2k3: see look at that |
| 06:23:38 | PsycoXul | midknight2k3: microsoft is giving computers a bad name |
| 06:23:45 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 06:23:48 | midknight2k3 | its not their fault |
| 06:23:50 | MT | one video player to display and output media |
| 06:23:52 | PsycoXul | yes it is |
| 06:23:53 | midknight2k3 | linux can run on a toaster |
| 06:23:56 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:24:09 | PsycoXul | yeah... what about it? |
| 06:24:13 | Plugh | so can Java |
| 06:24:14 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 06:24:23 | MT | java is designed to run on toasters |
| 06:24:28 | Plugh | yeah I know |
| 06:24:35 | Plugh | crazy shit |
| 06:24:49 | Plugh | company I work for is all java shop |
| 06:24:59 | MT | i love java |
| 06:25:06 | midknight2k3 | SHUSHH |
| 06:25:30 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 06:25:36 | midknight2k3 | wish i did nick that hard drive |
| 06:25:37 | midknight2k3 | http://lap.umd.edu/computer_rage/broiled.html |
| 06:25:40 | Plugh | we have an app for processing genomic expression data |
| 06:26:59 | midknight2k3 | http://lap.umd.edu/computer_rage/mousetrap.html |
| 06:27:00 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:29:49 | PsycoXul | -rw-r−−r−− 1 psyco users 905216 Mar 11 14:10 Zen(USB2.0)Upgrade_1_01_01.exe |
| 06:30:03 | PsycoXul | it's not a zip or a cab and it does nothing run in winex |
| 06:30:03 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:30:25 | PsycoXul | so it seems their firmware upgrade process is somewhat obfuscated |
| 06:30:38 | midknight2k3 | OBfUSHIATED? |
| 06:31:20 | PsycoXul | you know, made so that it's difficult to get to, see, and understand or whatever |
| 06:31:44 | midknight2k3 | ub fu shi ated |
| 06:33:18 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:33:30 | midknight2k3 | some guy went after his compaq with a baseball bat |
| 06:33:45 | PsycoXul | but since it's usb protocol has been reverse engineered and implimented in a handful of projects, i'm thinking i can find some way to scrutinize the firmware heh |
| 06:34:04 | midknight2k3 | scrutinize the firmware eh lol |
| 06:34:05 | midknight2k3 | WAIT |
| 06:34:06 | midknight2k3 | HALT |
| 06:34:07 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
| 06:34:07 | midknight2k3 | STOP |
| 06:34:09 | midknight2k3 | WAIT |
| 06:34:10 | midknight2k3 | SILENCE |
| 06:34:28 | midknight2k3 | if you have a bin file is it simple to write a replacement? |
| 06:34:30 | Plugh | huh? |
| 06:34:46 | midknight2k3 | never mind |
| 06:35:54 | PsycoXul | no |
| 06:35:56 | PsycoXul | not simple :p |
| 06:36:08 | midknight2k3 | is that what rockbox did? |
| 06:36:12 | PsycoXul | yep |
| 06:36:15 | PsycoXul | it's enabling |
| 06:36:18 | PsycoXul | but not simple |
| 06:36:18 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:36:30 | midknight2k3 | so.. |
| 06:36:39 | midknight2k3 | rockbox started with a bin file? |
| 06:36:43 | PsycoXul | ahh i remember the early days of rockbox |
| 06:37:01 | PsycoXul | they figured out how to descramble the mod file |
| 06:37:24 | PsycoXul | and then disassembled it and worked their voodoo |
| 06:37:42 | PsycoXul | and wrote a re-scrambler |
| 06:37:44 | midknight2k3 | dude! im busy here |
| 06:37:50 | PsycoXul | and before long there was a new firmware up to try |
| 06:37:56 | midknight2k3 | "how to smash tv tubes" |
| 06:37:56 | PsycoXul | a happy fun LED BLINKER |
| 06:38:04 | midknight2k3 | http://www.zyra.org.uk/tvtube2.htm |
| 06:38:12 | PsycoXul | i broke a TV once |
| 06:38:21 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 06:38:23 | midknight2k3 | was it fun? |
| 06:38:26 | PsycoXul | i was probably like 11 |
| 06:38:28 | PsycoXul | or 12 |
| 06:38:34 | PsycoXul | and i had a slingshot and some marbles |
| 06:38:42 | MT | i used to break stereos |
| 06:38:48 | PsycoXul | and dennis the menace was on |
| 06:38:48 | MT | lp players |
| 06:38:56 | PsycoXul | so i shot a marble with my slingshot at mr wilson |
| 06:39:03 | MT | as you could buy them for £0.50 |
| 06:39:08 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:39:12 | MT | and old speakers |
| 06:39:18 | MT | good magnets in speakers |
| 06:39:31 | PsycoXul | it broke the glass and it started like hissing and shit |
| 06:39:35 | PsycoXul | freaked me the fuck out |
| 06:39:44 | MT | never underestimate the appeal of magnets to an 8 yr old |
| 06:39:54 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:39:58 | PsycoXul | magnets are good |
| 06:40:23 | midknight2k3 | HAHAHAH psyco |
| 06:40:26 | midknight2k3 | you shot the tv |
| 06:40:45 | midknight2k3 | was your mom mad? |
| 06:41:01 | PsycoXul | of course |
| 06:41:09 | midknight2k3 | you killed the tv |
| 06:41:11 | midknight2k3 | HAHAHA |
| 06:41:12 | PsycoXul | that was a nice big old workhorse tv |
| 06:41:16 | PsycoXul | we had for years |
| 06:41:17 | midknight2k3 | hahahahaha |
| 06:41:22 | midknight2k3 | and you killed it |
| 06:41:25 | midknight2k3 | what happened? |
| 06:41:27 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 06:41:29 | midknight2k3 | did it go BZZT? |
| 06:41:35 | midknight2k3 | it was on and p;ugged in right? |
| 06:41:42 | midknight2k3 | that must be freaky |
| 06:41:43 | PsycoXul | yeah it was |
| 06:41:58 | midknight2k3 | i mean, off and stuff sure but plugged in? |
| 06:42:12 | PsycoXul | huh? |
| 06:42:15 | PsycoXul | it was on heh |
| 06:42:21 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 06:42:27 | midknight2k3 | if it was off, i'd ask for a hammer |
| 06:43:54 | midknight2k3 | did your mom ground you? |
| 06:44:02 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:44:15 | PsycoXul | ground me hmm i don't think so |
| 06:44:24 | PsycoXul | i forget |
| 06:44:29 | PsycoXul | i was probably put on some sorta restrictions |
| 06:44:31 | midknight2k3 | was it an expensive tv? |
| 06:44:41 | midknight2k3 | did it make a hole in the tv? |
| 06:44:41 | PsycoXul | but my parents were never the grounding type heh |
| 06:45:03 | PsycoXul | it made a broken indentation in the glass sorta and cracks around it |
| 06:45:16 | midknight2k3 | did you run crying? |
| 06:45:18 | PsycoXul | and no i don't think it was really expensive.. like i said, it was old |
| 06:45:36 | midknight2k3 | well your kid days must have been awhile ago when color didn't exist? |
| 06:45:59 | PsycoXul | um, no |
| 06:46:00 | PsycoXul | i'm only 22 |
| 06:46:01 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:46:09 | midknight2k3 | let's see |
| 06:46:16 | midknight2k3 | so that was about ten years ago... |
| 06:46:21 | midknight2k3 | i guess not |
| 06:46:24 | midknight2k3 | hahaha |
| 06:46:28 | midknight2k3 | did you run crying? |
| 06:46:29 | PsycoXul | yeah we're still talking 1990's here heh |
| 06:46:42 | PsycoXul | run where? |
| 06:46:50 | PsycoXul | i forget if i cried... i was really freaked out |
| 06:46:53 | midknight2k3 | to your mom i guess |
| 06:46:57 | midknight2k3 | hahaha |
| 06:47:13 | PsycoXul | i called my dad and was like uh i shot a marble at the tv and broke it and it's hissing like it's leaking gas or something what do i do |
| 06:47:17 | PsycoXul | i was home alone at the time |
| 06:47:18 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:47:32 | midknight2k3 | HAHAHAHA |
| 06:47:35 | midknight2k3 | did he yell? |
| 06:47:38 | PsycoXul | no |
| 06:47:55 | midknight2k3 | did it just go blank or did it like shoot electricity from inside? |
| 06:47:58 | PsycoXul | my parents are very cool, laid back people |
| 06:48:00 | PsycoXul | it just went blank |
| 06:48:09 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:48:13 | midknight2k3 | did your throw it away? |
| 06:48:35 | PsycoXul | yeah i guess so |
| 06:48:44 | midknight2k3 | did you smash it some more? |
| 06:48:49 | PsycoXul | no |
| 06:48:56 | midknight2k3 | take some advice |
| 06:48:57 | midknight2k3 | http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/tv.tossing.mov |
| 06:49:02 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:49:04 | midknight2k3 | it's short and to the point |
| 06:58:12 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:59:01 | midknight2k3 | i suppose it's not something "normal people" will ever do in their life |
| 06:59:17 | PsycoXul | yeah well |
| 06:59:23 | PsycoXul | neither is living a life to be proud of |
| 06:59:26 | midknight2k3 | you're normal? |
| 06:59:29 | midknight2k3 | fat chance |
| 06:59:32 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:59:33 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:59:38 | PsycoXul | certainly not |
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| 07:13:35 | midknight2k3 | if i get shut off, bye |
| 07:13:36 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 07:14:19 | midknight2k3 | bye |
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| 09:29:45 | Bagder | hey |
| 09:29:48 | Zagor | hi |
| 09:32:36 | Zagor | i hate dell's web site |
| 09:33:54 | Zagor | you can't even perform a search without first specifying if you're a home, small or big business user. |
| 09:34:03 | Bagder | hehe |
| 09:36:30 | dwihno | That's gay |
| 09:36:37 | dwihno | But their portables are so sweet! |
| 09:36:52 | dwihno | (unless you have a semi-old unit with no internal usb2 *sigh*) |
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| 09:56:47 | tracktheripper | morning |
| 09:58:34 | tracktheripper | wheres midknight? |
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| 10:07:30 | tracktheripper | he said he was gonna fix "redzone for peak meter" |
| 10:40:28 | Zagor | seems a lot of rld'ers have the hitachi disk. i wonder if that's because all recent units use hitachi disks or if the hitachi disks are more vulnerable... |
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| 10:41:10 | Bagder | yes, quite hard to tell |
| 10:41:15 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 10:41:15 | * | dwihno has a hitachi |
| 10:41:25 | dwihno | Although I never had a RLD in months! |
| 10:41:46 | dwihno | I've had a couple of buffer clicks, causing a second or two of silence and then the music resumed. |
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| 11:18:59 | blastman007 | hi someone here |
| 11:20:11 | Bagder | yes |
| 11:20:38 | blastman007 | hi |
| 11:21:46 | blastman007 | i have a archos jukebox recorder with 20gb but i want more 40 or 60 what kind of harddrice is the right? can look for example on ebay ? |
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| 11:24:29 | blastman007 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3426197180&category=42184 |
| 11:24:34 | blastman007 | coud i use this ? |
| 11:25:44 | Bagder | yes |
| 11:26:21 | blastman007 | and what is with them for laptops ? aren they the same ? |
| 11:26:43 | Bagder | yes |
| 11:26:54 | Bagder | but laptops can have thicker ones too |
| 11:27:05 | PsycoXul | mmm 80GB |
| 11:27:35 | blastman007 | in germany ther are 160gb |
| 11:28:04 | dwihno | Not laptop drives, blast. |
| 11:28:09 | PsycoXul | for the 9.5mm? |
| 11:28:18 | blastman007 | 2.5" |
| 11:28:24 | Bagder | blastman007: show us a URL |
| 11:28:30 | Bagder | blastman007: right, but not 9.5mm |
| 11:28:33 | blastman007 | 10*7*1 |
| 11:28:54 | blastman007 | what is 9.5 ? |
| 11:29:01 | Bagder | 9.5mm |
| 11:29:02 | PsycoXul | thickness |
| 11:29:02 | Bagder | height |
| 11:29:17 | blastman007 | can show me one please |
| 11:29:27 | PsycoXul | that one on ebay |
| 11:29:33 | PsycoXul | 80.011 GB |
| 11:29:35 | PsycoXul | Z-Height 9.5 mm |
| 11:29:45 | blastman007 | give me a link please |
| 11:29:54 | PsycoXul | you gave us the link |
| 11:30:14 | blastman007 | a mom |
| 11:30:45 | blastman007 | not more than 9.5mm ? |
| 11:31:29 | Bagder | not if you want it to fit in your archos |
| 11:33:29 | blastman007 | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2746556936&category=45731 |
| 11:33:32 | blastman007 | this is one |
| 11:34:30 | Bagder | "9.5mm high" |
| 11:34:45 | blastman007 | and what is with rpm and voltage ? |
| 11:35:03 | Bagder | what do you mean? |
| 11:35:39 | blastman007 | there are some with 5200 rpm and others 4200rpm |
| 11:36:00 | Bagder | so, get the one using the least power |
| 11:36:14 | Bagder | higher rpm tends to mean more power |
| 11:36:15 | blastman007 | which ? |
| 11:36:20 | blastman007 | yes |
| 11:39:06 | blastman007 | wow there is one witz 7200rpm but i dont think my player needs this |
| 11:39:17 | Hes | definetely not |
| 11:39:24 | MT | also, some manufacturors use lower power usage than others |
| 11:39:29 | MT | even with same rpm |
| 11:39:32 | Bagder | yes |
| 11:41:23 | blastman007 | i have a hitachi but can is use a fujitsu ? |
| 11:42:03 | Bagder | you can use any brand |
| 11:42:09 | Bagder | if its the right size |
| 11:42:24 | blastman007 | ok |
| 11:42:25 | Bagder | but you WANT the one with the least power consumption |
| 11:42:30 | Bagder | I guess |
| 11:43:27 | blastman007 | what is consumption ? |
| 11:43:37 | Bagder | how much power the disk needs |
| 11:43:45 | Bagder | uses |
| 11:43:56 | blastman007 | no i want bigger size |
| 11:43:56 | Bagder | how fast it'll drain your batteries |
| 11:44:09 | Bagder | yes |
| 11:44:16 | Bagder | but they will differ |
| 11:44:40 | blastman007 | i know that 7200rpm would need more power (logical) |
| 11:44:52 | blastman007 | what is differ ? |
| 11:45:41 | blastman007 | what means differ ? |
| 11:45:42 | Bagder | the disks will use different amounts of power |
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| 11:45:51 | Bagder | you need to read the spec sheets |
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| 11:46:29 | blastman007 | and what is the right usage ? |
| 11:46:45 | Bagder | sigh |
| 11:46:47 | Bagder | sigh |
| 11:46:47 | Bagder | sigh |
| 11:46:51 | Bagder | the lowest possible |
| 11:46:54 | Bagder | READDAAAAAAD |
| 11:47:03 | * | Bagder runs off |
| 11:47:07 | blastman007 | yes look at that waht to read |
| 11:47:09 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK martsz |
| 11:47:09 | martsz | hi, I'm a nwby in need of some help... |
| 11:47:15 | blastman007 | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2745478148&category=45731 |
| 11:47:34 | blastman007 | there are no details |
| 11:49:07 | Bagder | they are not the ones who make the disk you know |
| 11:49:09 | Bagder | read up |
| 11:49:12 | Bagder | find the details |
| 11:49:23 | Bagder | that's what we do |
| 11:49:30 | Bagder | martsz: try us! |
| 11:50:16 | martsz | help!!! My jukebox 6000 did'nt load any .mod!!!! |
| 11:50:44 | martsz | it works well for monts.... |
| 11:50:45 | blastman007 | can i buy one in ebay.com ? |
| 11:51:03 | Bagder | blastman007: I don't know what you can |
| 11:51:39 | martsz | any idea??? |
| 11:51:43 | blastman007 | me 2 |
| 11:51:43 | blastman007 | do they send it to germany ? |
| 11:52:07 | Bagder | martsz: so what happens? it starts with the archos firmware? |
| 11:53:35 | martsz | yes...the old version...I reload the rockbox 2.0...I can see it if i use jukebos as a hard drive...but it not load as a mod.. |
| 11:53:46 | blastman007 | do you know what 200$ are in € ? |
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| 11:54:25 | Bagder | martsz: then I guess the file is damaged or something |
| 11:54:33 | Schnueff | what a day |
| 11:54:46 | blastman007 | can you send me 200$ please :-) |
| 11:55:25 | blastman007 | i found the right for 239€ with 80gb |
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| 11:57:04 | martsz | i'm back... |
| 11:58:21 | blastman007 | i musst win some money |
| 11:58:27 | martsz | Badger, do you have any idea abou what happens? |
| 11:58:34 | Bagder | I guess the file is damaged or something |
| 11:58:45 | Bagder | tried reinstalling? |
| 11:59:01 | blastman007 | oooh till christmas is soooo long :-( |
| 11:59:26 | martsz | i re download it and re install it... |
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| 12:00:05 | martsz | but allways start with the original firmware... |
| 12:01:15 | blastman007 | i had this problem to when i was starting my recorder with the player software |
| 12:01:53 | martsz | how you solved it? |
| 12:02:16 | blastman007 | i installed the recorder software :-) |
| 12:03:26 | martsz | ok I'm double check...and I use the correct file... |
| 12:03:41 | martsz | txs anyway.... |
| 12:03:49 | blastman007 | hmm |
| 12:04:33 | blastman007 | ohh my god i found one with 80gb for less than 200€ |
| 12:04:47 | blastman007 | oh no |
| 12:04:57 | blastman007 | what means 80gn/60gb ? |
| 12:05:32 | blastman007 | what is Gn ? |
| 12:06:27 | blastman007 | http://www.preisvergleich.co.at/Preisvergleich/Festplatte/315792/Hitachi/80GB_IC25N080ATMR04.html |
| 12:06:32 | blastman007 | look at the first one |
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| 16:56:11 | DJBaz | hey |
| 16:56:18 | DJBaz | anyone know where i can download rockbox plugins? |
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| 17:02:15 | Plugh | http://rockbox.haxx.se |
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| 19:08:06 | neofight | hallo ? |
| 19:08:18 | Plugh | hi |
| 19:08:48 | neofight | do you know if i buy an new harddisk is the recording option then still working ? |
| 19:09:32 | Plugh | a new hard drive only changes how much you can store. It doesn't affect the function |
| 19:09:55 | neofight | ok maybe i buy me an bigger one |
| 19:10:19 | Plugh | I need to do that myself. I found a pretty good price on a 30gig |
| 19:10:39 | neofight | how much ? |
| 19:10:42 | Plugh | I really want an 80gig, but it's too expensive |
| 19:10:52 | Plugh | the 30gig was about $109US |
| 19:10:53 | neofight | i know |
| 19:11:04 | Plugh | 80 was $299 |
| 19:11:17 | neofight | maybe i wish me one for christmas |
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| 19:11:46 | neofight | just today i opend my archos and looked inside <<very nice ;-)>> |
| 19:11:49 | MT | 60gb are a decent price |
| 19:12:37 | MT | FUJ 60GB 12MS 2.5 |
| 19:12:39 | MT | (ref: FUJSTO153, Availability: Good) £114.30 |
| 19:12:40 | MT | (£134.30 inc vat) |
| 19:12:59 | MT | thats about $200 |
| 19:13:05 | neofight | with 60gb ? |
| 19:13:17 | MT | yes |
| 19:13:22 | MT | but i wouldnt get that one |
| 19:13:37 | neofight | wait a moment |
| 19:13:39 | MT | Fujitsu MHS2060AT 60GB 2.5" 4200rpm Notebook HDD <<−− uses less power |
| 19:14:07 | MT | altho i will probably end up with a hitachi |
| 19:14:10 | MT | much cheaper |
| 19:14:16 | Plugh | no doubt |
| 19:14:40 | Plugh | did you see our little discussion about the Hitachi firmware upgrade? |
| 19:14:42 | neofight | http://www.directron.com/ibm08k0633.html |
| 19:14:51 | neofight | look at this waht is "Gn" ? |
| 19:14:55 | Plugh | there's a patch to make it stop clicking |
| 19:15:09 | neofight | where ? |
| 19:15:23 | neofight | it really annois me when i record from mic |
| 19:15:23 | Plugh | dell and IBM sites |
| 19:15:26 | MT | yes |
| 19:15:40 | MT | altho, we only have dell and ibm updates right? |
| 19:15:46 | Plugh | I wanna make an archos patcher |
| 19:15:48 | neofight | can you give me an link ?` |
| 19:16:05 | MT | www.site.com/apage.html |
| 19:16:07 | neofight | wer cant use it ? |
| 19:16:14 | MT | do you want a more specific link? ;p |
| 19:16:21 | Plugh | gn is just their model number |
| 19:16:21 | neofight | yes `? |
| 19:16:28 | neofight | ah ok |
| 19:16:51 | Plugh | you'd have to put the drive in an IBM or Dell laptop to patch it right now |
| 19:17:23 | neofight | how does it work ? |
| 19:17:24 | Plugh | I wanna make a Rockbox plugin or special firmware to do the patch, so we don't have to remove the drive |
| 19:19:06 | neofight | what means "remove the drive" ? |
| 19:20:07 | Plugh | taking it out of the case |
| 19:20:20 | neofight | i did that just today |
| 19:20:37 | neofight | its very easy if you have some photos |
| 19:21:06 | Plugh | mine is still under warranty |
| 19:21:35 | neofight | i bough mine on ebay i dont think i could use warranty because i live in germany |
| 19:22:17 | MT | hmm |
| 19:22:26 | MT | its not so easy on the fm :) |
| 19:22:39 | neofight | i can use a adapter to connect an 2.5" with 3.5" |
| 19:22:53 | neofight | so i can put it in the normal computer |
| 19:23:02 | neofight | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2746315961&category=45731 |
| 19:23:05 | neofight | with this tool |
| 19:23:24 | neofight | so can i do this with the patch ? |
| 19:23:40 | MT | to get the hd out of the fm recorder, you have to desolder 7 points |
| 19:24:16 | neofight | but its possible and much worth ;-) |
| 19:24:19 | Plugh | that will work Neo |
| 19:24:24 | MT | yep |
| 19:24:35 | neofight | so tell me what is musst do |
| 19:25:00 | neofight | i connect it with the computer as a normal harddrive, right ? |
| 19:25:13 | Plugh | you need to buy the drive, format it FAT32 in a Windows or Linux machine, and put it in your archos |
| 19:25:50 | neofight | which drive ? |
| 19:25:52 | Plugh | Linux may be better, because you can't partition that big a drive as FAT32 under Windows |
| 19:26:02 | Plugh | any 2.5" hard drive |
| 19:26:16 | neofight | cant i use my archos drive? |
| 19:26:39 | Plugh | what are you trying to do? |
| 19:27:06 | neofight | i want this patch you said that the disk is not clicking |
| 19:27:11 | Plugh | oh |
| 19:27:39 | Plugh | you need to take the drive out, put it in a Dell or IBM laptop, download their patch, and run it |
| 19:28:10 | neofight | cas but instead i use a laptop i could connect it with this adapter in my computer |
| 19:28:29 | Plugh | the Dell patch only runs on Dell laptops |
| 19:28:32 | Plugh | and same for IBM |
| 19:28:34 | neofight | i have no laptop |
| 19:28:44 | neofight | .-( |
| 19:28:52 | Plugh | then you won't be able to run that patch yet |
| 19:29:24 | neofight | and why only in laptops ? |
| 19:29:39 | Plugh | because the patch only works on the computer it's made for |
| 19:30:08 | neofight | but i can then put it back in my player ? |
| 19:30:21 | Plugh | yes |
| 19:30:34 | neofight | and it doesen make clicks |
| 19:30:50 | Plugh | that's what they say |
| 19:30:55 | Plugh | I haven't done it yet |
| 19:30:58 | neofight | give me please an link where i can read some |
| 19:31:10 | Plugh | looking |
| 19:32:00 | neofight | i could buy an 80gb for 269 € but i dont have the money :-( |
| 19:32:28 | Plugh | I do, but I might not be able to pay my phone bill if I do |
| 19:33:22 | Plugh | http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm |
| 19:33:29 | Plugh | the feature tool might work |
| 19:35:02 | neofight | where is it ? |
| 19:35:10 | neofight | drive fitness test ? |
| 19:35:13 | Plugh | 2/3 of the way down the page |
| 19:35:17 | Plugh | feature tool |
| 19:35:27 | neofight | mom |
| 19:37:04 | neofight | but it affects the performance, or? |
| 19:37:17 | Plugh | http://support.dell.com/filelib/download.aspx?FileID=51876&ReleaseID=R43169 |
| 19:37:25 | Plugh | that's the Dell patch |
| 19:38:10 | Plugh | http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-43349.html |
| 19:38:15 | Plugh | that's the IBM patch |
| 19:38:18 | neofight | it links not directly to the page |
| 19:38:34 | Plugh | you might be able to find a German equivalent page |
| 19:39:24 | neofight | what was the firts link ? for hitachi ? |
| 19:41:09 | Plugh | that wasn't a firmware upgrade |
| 19:41:18 | neofight | what means 48-bit, is it only for the new disks ? |
| 19:41:19 | Plugh | but if you want a quieter drive, you can run it |
| 19:41:36 | Plugh | I really don't know. I'm just passing along info :) |
| 19:42:51 | neofight | would you spend me 300$ , yes ? |
| 19:43:32 | neofight | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2746556936&category=45731 |
| 19:43:36 | neofight | the one i dream of |
| 19:44:09 | Plugh | yep. that's the one |
| 19:44:22 | neofight | and this patch cant i run it with usb ? |
| 19:44:51 | Plugh | not yet. We just found out about the patch yesterday. We're going to see if we can do it with USB somehow |
| 19:45:38 | neofight | who "we" are you in the rockbox teams ? |
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| 19:46:04 | Plugh | the people who chat on this channel every day :) |
| 19:46:13 | scott666 | what about em? |
| 19:46:21 | Plugh | I don't really code. I just encourage people to do stuff |
| 19:46:27 | neofight | hi scott you know me |
| 19:46:33 | Plugh | we're discussing the click patch |
| 19:46:35 | | Nick neofight is now known as blastman997 (neofight@p508402EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:46:37 | scott666 | i do? |
| 19:46:39 | | Nick blastman997 is now known as blastman007 (neofight@p508402EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:46:43 | blastman007 | yes |
| 19:46:43 | Plugh | neo really wants it |
| 19:46:57 | scott666 | i think itd be awesome |
| 19:47:05 | blastman007 | http://www.laptopshop.co.uk/brouchers/IC25N080AT-MR-04.pdf |
| 19:47:32 | blastman007 | scott would you buy it for me ? |
| 19:48:11 | scott666 | hmmmm |
| 19:48:12 | scott666 | no |
| 19:48:27 | blastman007 | :-(((((( |
| 19:48:37 | blastman007 | :-| |
| 19:48:39 | blastman007 | :-) |
| 19:48:44 | blastman007 | ;-) joke |
| 19:49:20 | scott666 | best feature request: |
| 19:49:20 | scott666 | Force playback of WMA files by renaming the extension to MP3 |
| 19:49:40 | blastman007 | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3340336816&category=28930 |
| 19:49:43 | blastman007 | my dream |
| 19:50:17 | blastman007 | i want to kiss it :-) |
| 19:50:22 | scott666 | no rockbox though |
| 19:50:44 | blastman007 | hmm |
| 19:51:37 | Plugh | I've held one |
| 19:51:42 | Plugh | but it was still in the box |
| 19:51:47 | scott666 | awww |
| 19:52:02 | blastman007 | hmmm a dream |
| 19:52:40 | blastman007 | by the way, what is the fastest consumer pc in the usa ? |
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| 19:52:47 | scott666 | zagor sounded vaugely interesting in reverse engineering a nomad zen though |
| 19:52:48 | scott666 | lol |
| 19:52:57 | scott666 | probably the mac G5 |
| 19:53:05 | scott666 | theres just no programs for it |
| 19:53:05 | scott666 | lol |
| 19:53:07 | blastman007 | how fast |
| 19:53:13 | MT | fast |
| 19:53:19 | blastman007 | ghz ? |
| 19:53:25 | scott666 | dual 2.4ghz 64bit procesors |
| 19:53:38 | blastman007 | 0 4.8 ? |
| 19:53:43 | blastman007 | = 4.8 ? |
| 19:53:54 | MT | no |
| 19:54:07 | blastman007 | but you said dual |
| 19:54:17 | scott666 | there are 2 of them |
| 19:54:31 | blastman007 | what two ? |
| 19:54:44 | MT | if you have two cars, both have a top speed of 150km/h, strapping them together doesnt make it for 300km/h |
| 19:54:53 | MT | and |
| 19:54:58 | blastman007 | hmm |
| 19:55:04 | MT | the most the G5 goes to is 2GHz |
| 19:55:05 | scott666 | good analagy |
| 19:55:15 | blastman007 | but when the firts car pushes the other ;-) |
| 19:55:35 | blastman007 | but that isen't the fastet in the usa ? |
| 19:56:14 | scott666 | no, it is |
| 19:56:15 | MT | you think Hz matters? |
| 19:56:31 | scott666 | theyre faster cause theyre 64bit |
| 19:56:37 | Plugh | my boss just ordered me a 3.0GHz machine for my Windows box |
| 19:56:37 | MT | umm |
| 19:56:39 | scott666 | newer technology |
| 19:56:48 | MT | not really scott |
| 19:56:49 | blastman007 | i have a 2.53ghz |
| 19:56:52 | Plugh | 3.06 actually |
| 19:57:02 | blastman007 | look at this wait a sec |
| 19:57:04 | scott666 | i heard they were way ahead in benchmarks |
| 19:57:20 | blastman007 | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2745935209&category=30294&rd=1 |
| 19:57:33 | scott666 | the 3.06s sucked, 533 FSB instead of 800 |
| 19:57:37 | MT | they are faster because they have a hideously huge fsb, and a massive cache and can do massively more instructions per clock |
| 19:57:50 | blastman007 | −−afk 3min |
| 19:58:46 | Plugh | I don't care if it sucks or not. It's gotta be better than my 500MHz |
| 19:59:24 | blastman007 | <<back |
| 19:59:26 | scott666 | heh |
| 19:59:29 | scott666 | yeah |
| 19:59:34 | scott666 | i just ordered a new computer too |
| 19:59:50 | scott666 | going from a 600mhz p3 to an athlon xp 30000+ |
| 19:59:56 | scott666 | *3000 |
| 19:59:57 | blastman007 | i read a lot of articels on www.giga.de |
| 19:59:57 | scott666 | heh |
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| 20:00:04 | MT | heh |
| 20:00:09 | blastman007 | but amd sucks |
| 20:00:14 | MT | when you go to buy a g5 on apples site |
| 20:00:21 | MT | one of the configuration options |
| 20:00:27 | MT | is to select which ipod you want |
| 20:00:35 | scott666 | amd kicks ass, wtf are you talking about? |
| 20:01:07 | MT | Subtotal Please note that your subtotal does not include sales tax or rebates. $10,763.95 |
| 20:01:11 | MT | bit pricey |
| 20:01:15 | blastman007 | i first bought me an amd 2400+ and it sucked really |
| 20:01:25 | scott666 | copmpared to what? |
| 20:01:30 | blastman007 | then i bought me this p4 with 2.53 and its much better |
| 20:01:44 | blastman007 | in GTA the graphiv was very bad |
| 20:01:58 | scott666 | that has nothing to do with the processor |
| 20:02:06 | scott666 | or little anyway |
| 20:02:23 | blastman007 | when i was burning a cd i couldn't do anythin else becaue it was too slow |
| 20:02:37 | scott666 | how much ram did you have? |
| 20:02:53 | blastman007 | 512mb |
| 20:03:01 | blastman007 | it was exactly same pc but amd |
| 20:03:08 | Plugh | my 1800+ is just fine |
| 20:03:12 | Plugh | with burning too |
| 20:04:05 | MT | blastman007: I have an amd athlon 1GHz, and i play CS whilst burning discs .. |
| 20:04:10 | blastman007 | now i have 1gig ram and no problems first i thought that 512 is enough but i had the chance to buy another 512 for 40€ and i did it |
| 20:04:39 | blastman007 | i dont know it was an 2400+ and i didnt work |
| 20:04:41 | blastman007 | ohoo |
| 20:04:57 | blastman007 | bur you dont burn cd with 48 x ? |
| 20:05:21 | scott666 | bur?? |
| 20:05:28 | blastman007 | but |
| 20:05:35 | scott666 | ahh |
| 20:06:02 | Plugh | nope |
| 20:06:08 | Plugh | I don't have a 48x burner |
| 20:06:20 | Plugh | just 8x |
| 20:06:41 | blastman007 | yes thats because yours is not lagging when burning a cd because it mustns read so much data |
| 20:07:22 | blastman007 | and burn a cd with 48x with an AMD 2400+ and play Cs wont work , with a p4 2.53ghz it works :-) |
| 20:08:23 | scott666 | id be interested to see if it worked with a p4 2.4 |
| 20:08:24 | Plugh | as long as I can play Everquest, I don't care what else the computer does ;) |
| 20:08:45 | blastman007 | sure those 100mhz |
| 20:08:59 | scott666 | could make the difference |
| 20:09:21 | scott666 | probably not but itd still be interesting to see |
| 20:09:47 | blastman007 | and when i think about 3d mark muahaha with the amd i got 7900 wiht my p4 now i have 12000 |
| 20:10:28 | blastman007 | sometimes over 13000 i can send you an screenshot |
| 20:10:34 | scott666 | did you have enough cooling though? |
| 20:11:08 | blastman007 | i actually have 5 fans 2 on my gForce |
| 20:11:21 | Plugh | haha! Arnold Schwarzenegger is the Running Man in California now ;) |
| 20:13:45 | Plugh | I dunno who I want more to be my governer. The former body builder who was doping steroids and smoking pot in front of TV cameras or Larry Flynt, the editor in chief of Hustler magazine... |
| 20:14:45 | scott666 | and what about gary coleman?? |
| 20:15:19 | Plugh | is he running? |
| 20:15:23 | scott666 | yup] |
| 20:15:26 | Plugh | omg |
| 20:15:42 | Plugh | I think he's gonna get shorted on the vote |
| 20:15:51 | scott666 | ahahhahaha |
| 20:16:45 | Plugh | this is California. Name recognition will win |
| 20:16:58 | Plugh | Arnold probably has the most |
| 20:17:12 | Plugh | issues are right out the window now |
| 20:17:43 | scott666 | yeah |
| 20:24:29 | blastman007 | omg |
| 20:24:33 | blastman007 | look at this |
| 20:24:40 | blastman007 | http://gamesfiles.giga.de/redirect/gelp_relatedlink.php?rellink=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emuropaketti%2Ecom%2Fartikkelit%2Fcpu%2Fnorthwood2200%2Fln2%2Findex%2Ephtml |
| 20:25:33 | blastman007 | that hurts in my eyes |
| 20:26:48 | Plugh | nice |
| 20:27:04 | | Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) |
| 20:27:22 | blastman007 | the mainboard :-=) |
| 20:27:30 | Plugh | http://tinyurl.com/jfss |
| 20:27:39 | Plugh | that's your link, only smaller |
| 20:27:57 | blastman007 | yes i found it on giga |
| 20:36:56 | blastman007 | bye |
| 20:37:01 | | Quit blastman007 ("get satisfied! • (Gamers.IRC powered by PlayerLiga.de) »» get it @ www.gamersirc.net") |
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| 21:06:18 | | Join Guest [0] (~jirc@cs6668157-137.austin.rr.com) |
| 21:10:41 | | Join diddystar5 [0] (diddystar5@ACA880DD.ipt.aol.com) |
| 21:10:57 | Guest | hello - i have a question about rockbox. I just flashed my recorder, and it works great, but i want to add the most recent daily build. on the instructions, it says to descramble the ajbrec.ajz file by "descramble ajbrec.ajz rockbox.bin". How do I do this? |
| 21:11:23 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:11:33 | diddystar5 | do you know how to use a command prompt? |
| 21:11:47 | Guest | yes |
| 21:12:46 | Guest | what should i type in? |
| 21:13:20 | diddystar5 | ok, what download http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash_rec.zip |
| 21:13:47 | diddystar5 | is has the tool "descramble" |
| 21:13:56 | Guest | ok |
| 21:15:00 | diddystar5 | somewhere in it, there is descramble, i think it is in tools/win32 |
| 21:15:10 | Guest | yeah, thats it |
| 21:16:58 | diddystar5 | in the command prompt type "cd C:/(wherever yousaved it)" |
| 21:17:11 | diddystar5 | then use the descramble comand |
| 21:20:24 | Guest | wait - i just loked at the daily build screen again - and it has a ucl file i can download - is this the final output file from the orocess listed on the "flashing rockbox' page? |
| 21:20:26 | diddystar5 | btw: you don't need to descramble and ucl it any more all you need is the ucl file on the daily build page http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml |
| 21:20:36 | Guest | then i would just haveto download the ucl file? |
| 21:20:51 | diddystar5 | yes and save it to the root of you jukebox |
| 21:20:55 | Guest | lol - great minds think alike |
| 21:21:37 | diddystar5 | and then just rin the rockbox_flash plugin and your set :) |
| 21:21:42 | diddystar5 | *run |
| 21:21:58 | Guest | ok - thanks alot for all your help |
| 21:22:02 | hardeep | nah, just PLAY the ucl file |
| 21:22:07 | hardeep | it can be anywhere |
| 21:22:11 | diddystar5 | yer welcome! |
| 21:22:21 | hardeep | make sure the rockbox_flash plugin is in /.rockbox/rocks |
| 21:22:44 | Guest | ok , cool |
| 21:22:46 | hardeep | and you're running the latest daily build |
| 21:22:46 | Guest | thanks |
| 21:22:52 | scott666 | actually if its his fisrt time running it he would have to do the plugin |
| 21:22:56 | scott666 | or rolo |
| 21:23:11 | Guest | come again? |
| 21:23:28 | Guest | i already flashed my recorder if that is what u mean |
| 21:23:28 | scott666 | cause hed have the old version that doesnt have the play ucl file code |
| 21:23:39 | scott666 | yeah but have you updated the second image? |
| 21:24:09 | Guest | um -i dont think so - i just folowed the instructions onthe web page for flashing rockbox |
| 21:25:00 | Guest | should i use the rockbox_flash.rock file? |
| 21:25:11 | Guest | or should i just play the ucl file? |
| 21:25:22 | diddystar5 | for your first flash yes |
| 21:25:30 | diddystar5 | *run rockbox_flash |
| 21:25:36 | Guest | oh, ok |
| 21:25:39 | diddystar5 | then after that you can "play" it |
| 21:26:19 | Guest | ok - and this willl work for all the daily builds after 2003-07-10 ? |
| 21:26:30 | Guest | just playing the ucl i mean |
| 21:27:27 | diddystar5 | 07-10 i'm not sure... just use the lastest daily builds |
| 21:27:47 | Guest | ok |
| 21:28:14 | Guest | thanks again everybody |
| 21:28:23 | Guest | i'll go try it out |
| 21:28:48 | | Quit Guest ("Leaving") |
| 21:29:22 | scott666 | shouldve just told him to download the new ajbrec and rolo and then play the ucl |
| 21:29:25 | scott666 | ahh well |
| 21:31:54 | Plugh | one of these days I'll get around to flashing |
| 21:32:13 | Plugh | but that'll be after I stabilize |
| 21:32:36 | scott666 | youre unstable? |
| 21:33:14 | diddystar5 | hehe |
| 21:33:36 | diddystar5 | bye |
| 21:33:36 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Gotta go cya") |
| 21:33:55 | Plugh | actually, come to think of it... |
| 21:33:59 | Plugh | no, I'm not stable |
| 21:36:12 | Plugh | *grr* fucking credit card bastards... |
| 21:37:20 | Plugh | they called me up and said my payment was past due, even though I mailed it 3 weeks ago. So they convince me to go ahead and make another payment over the phone. So I check my statement and they charged me $8 to do that |
| 21:37:36 | Plugh | guess I gotta call 'em up and get the charge wiped off |
| 21:38:27 | | Join Guest [0] (~jirc@cs6668157-137.austin.rr.com) |
| 21:38:46 | Guest | Hi, im back - it worked great - thanks agin to everybody who helped |
| 21:40:14 | Guest | i have one questuion though - i wanted to know if it was a bug or something, but when the charger is plugged in, and i am playing music, or whatever, when i hold the off button as if to turn it off - it goes into the charger mode, except that the lcd is on, and in about 3 second intervals flashes |
| 21:40:32 | Guest | it only happend when i hold the off button down |
| 21:42:17 | Guest | does anybody know if this is a bug, or is it something to do with my machine? |
| 21:49:45 | Guest | anybody here? |
| 21:53:13 | Plugh | slightly |
| 21:53:40 | Guest | lol - thats good enough for me |
| 21:53:52 | Guest | can u answer my question? |
| 21:53:54 | Plugh | holding the off button is a different state |
| 21:54:02 | Plugh | it's a hardware powerdown |
| 21:54:15 | Guest | what do u mean? |
| 21:54:49 | Plugh | if you hold the button for 5 sec, it will shut the player off and do a reset, regardless of how locked up it is |
| 21:55:15 | Guest | oh, ok - thats good |
| 21:56:27 | Guest | ok, well thanks - i think i wil go enjoy my "new" jukebox now! |
| 21:56:28 | Guest | cya |
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| 22:11:24 | | Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB9BD7F.ipt.aol.com) |
| 22:25:10 | Plugh | afternoon track |
| 22:28:47 | tracktheripper | hey Plug |
| 22:28:47 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 22:29:29 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC974005.ipt.aol.com) |
| 22:29:37 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 22:29:39 | midknight2k3 | hi trackie |
| 22:29:41 | midknight2k3 | hi scott |
| 22:29:44 | midknight2k3 | hi psyco |
| 22:29:46 | midknight2k3 | uh |
| 22:29:54 | midknight2k3 | hi everyoneelse |
| 22:30:32 | tracktheripper | :D |
| 22:30:34 | tracktheripper | brb |
| 22:30:41 | tracktheripper | hey midknighty |
| 22:30:44 | tracktheripper | did the red zone? |
| 22:31:32 | midknight2k3 | nah |
| 22:31:36 | midknight2k3 | earhurts never showed up :( |
| 22:32:07 | tracktheripper | :(( |
| 22:32:22 | midknight2k3 | yeah i know |
| 22:32:30 | midknight2k3 | but i plan on making it good |
| 22:32:38 | midknight2k3 | so if you use dbfs it works too |
| 22:33:12 | tracktheripper | :(( |
| 22:33:21 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
| 22:33:26 | midknight2k3 | if he were here i'd do it now |
| 22:34:04 | midknight2k3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=785394&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 22:34:05 | midknight2k3 | neat |
| 22:34:44 | scott666 | hey mk |
| 22:34:53 | midknight2k3 | hey scott |
| 22:39:50 | tracktheripper | i was really looking foward to the red zone |
| 22:39:57 | midknight2k3 | sorry man |
| 22:39:59 | midknight2k3 | me too |
| 22:42:05 | tracktheripper | :(( |
| 22:42:18 | midknight2k3 | SORRY! lol |
| 22:42:23 | tracktheripper | midknight a virgin atlantic girl left her skirt behind |
| 22:43:01 | scott666 | ummm |
| 22:43:12 | midknight2k3 | wh... ok |
| 22:44:33 | scott666 | let the panty sniffing begin? |
| 22:44:55 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 22:47:15 | Plugh | *SNIFF* |
| 22:47:19 | Plugh | *SNORT* |
| 22:47:23 | Plugh | ahhhhhh |
| 22:47:47 | midknight2k3 | ick |
| 22:48:23 | scott666 | lol |
| 22:48:34 | midknight2k3 | so track |
| 22:48:43 | midknight2k3 | what build of rockbox are you running? |
| 22:50:32 | Plugh | there's build numbers? |
| 22:50:37 | Plugh | :) |
| 22:51:04 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 22:51:07 | midknight2k3 | such as |
| 22:51:16 | midknight2k3 | CVS-030808 |
| 22:51:33 | scott666 | thats what im using |
| 22:51:36 | tracktheripper | just an old version |
| 22:51:39 | tracktheripper | that suits me fine |
| 22:51:49 | midknight2k3 | like? |
| 22:52:05 | tracktheripper | dunno |
| 22:52:14 | midknight2k3 | get a new one |
| 22:52:19 | midknight2k3 | it is worth it |
| 22:52:39 | Plugh | I need to update |
| 22:52:52 | Plugh | kept forgetting my USB cbl all week |
| 22:52:58 | Plugh | so never got the new one in |
| 22:53:05 | tracktheripper | i will only update when i get my reshuffle and redzone |
| 22:53:06 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 22:53:34 | Plugh | redzone? On the peak level indicator? |
| 22:54:03 | tracktheripper | redzone for peak meter |
| 22:54:07 | tracktheripper | see the pic for details |
| 22:54:29 | midknight2k3 | he knows of no pic |
| 22:54:32 | midknight2k3 | i will link |
| 22:54:36 | tracktheripper | ok |
| 22:54:45 | midknight2k3 | but yes plugh |
| 22:54:53 | midknight2k3 | i am coding it with help of earhurts |
| 22:54:55 | midknight2k3 | what a guy |
| 22:55:36 | midknight2k3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=44306&atid=439121&file_id=52220&aid=749225 |
| 22:56:30 | midknight2k3 | CRAPPY PICTURE c/o TRACKTHERIPPER |
| 22:56:33 | midknight2k3 | j/k |
| 22:56:40 | midknight2k3 | it's very good for something done in... "Paint" |
| 22:57:02 | Plugh | oh, slick! |
| 22:57:06 | Plugh | I like that |
| 22:57:08 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 22:57:10 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 22:57:11 | midknight2k3 | i do it |
| 22:57:12 | Plugh | yeah |
| 22:57:15 | midknight2k3 | it's tracks idea |
| 22:57:20 | midknight2k3 | i like it too |
| 22:57:29 | midknight2k3 | good idea track |
| 22:57:38 | Plugh | lets you SEE where that sweet spot is |
| 22:57:46 | midknight2k3 | i wanted a multifunction RED LED but Zagor got a bit frustrated :\ |
| 22:58:56 | Plugh | that'd be neat |
| 22:59:08 | tracktheripper | what u think plug? |
| 22:59:08 | midknight2k3 | did you see him? |
| 22:59:14 | midknight2k3 | Plugh |
| 22:59:16 | midknight2k3 | he likes it |
| 22:59:18 | midknight2k3 | not plug |
| 22:59:24 | tracktheripper | Plug what do u think of the Red Zone? |
| 22:59:27 | midknight2k3 | makes him sound like "butt plug" ;) |
| 22:59:32 | midknight2k3 | STOP |
| 22:59:34 | midknight2k3 | it's Plugh |
| 22:59:44 | Plugh | buttplugh |
| 22:59:52 | Plugh | 13:57 < Plugh> oh, slick! |
| 22:59:53 | Plugh | 13:57 < Plugh> I like that |
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| 23:00:04 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:00:10 | Plugh | that's what I thought of the red zone 3 mins ago |
| 23:00:14 | Plugh | I still like it |
| 23:00:15 | Plugh | ;) |
| 23:00:18 | tracktheripper | ok Plugh what do u think of my Red Zone for Peak Meter picture? |
| 23:00:19 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 23:00:24 | midknight2k3 | \it's good |
| 23:00:26 | midknight2k3 | for paint |
| 23:00:59 | tracktheripper | would u find it useful for recording as its easier to see how far u can push recording levels before clipping? |
| 23:01:18 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 23:01:20 | midknight2k3 | track |
| 23:01:20 | Plugh | haha! My step-daughter just IM's me: What's 30% of 756? <Me> 226.8 <Her> shit |
| 23:01:35 | Plugh | track: totally |
| 23:01:41 | midknight2k3 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/rockbox-20030805.txt |
| 23:01:46 | tracktheripper | it should be possible as all you are doing is inverting tle last few pixels |
| 23:01:46 | midknight2k3 | it's very close to the bottom |
| 23:01:57 | midknight2k3 | starts with <mk2k3> Zagor: how about this idea? |
| 23:02:02 | midknight2k3 | TRACK |
| 23:02:05 | midknight2k3 | WE KNOW |
| 23:02:05 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 23:02:09 | midknight2k3 | it is possible |
| 23:02:12 | midknight2k3 | it will be done |
| 23:02:13 | midknight2k3 | soon |
| 23:02:19 | midknight2k3 | and a patch will be put up |
| 23:02:19 | tracktheripper | cool :-) |
| 23:02:22 | midknight2k3 | you have to compile it\ |
| 23:02:33 | tracktheripper | then you can fix "Reshuffle when playlist repeasts" |
| 23:03:10 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 23:03:43 | Plugh | I' |
| 23:03:45 | midknight2k3 | <Zagor> midknight2k3: mode? there is no mode. we turn it on or off when we want it on or off. it's completely software controlled. |
| 23:03:49 | Plugh | I've never used a playlist |
| 23:04:00 | Plugh | and thanks for reminding me about the IRC logs |
| 23:04:00 | midknight2k3 | <midknight2k3> i meant a menu, where you choose either HD Activity, Keypress, or HD Power and rockbox will show accordingly |
| 23:04:10 | midknight2k3 | <Zagor> i prefer "useful" to "cool" myself... :-) |
| 23:04:19 | midknight2k3 | <midknight2k3> or light the led when the peak meter reaches in to the still-to-come redzone? |
| 23:04:22 | Plugh | I don't wanna say something I'll regret and have it saved and searchable for eternity |
| 23:04:30 | midknight2k3 | like what? |
| 23:04:30 | Plugh | ;) |
| 23:04:42 | midknight2k3 | <midknight2k3> when recording make the red light flash if the recording has clipped and otherwise make it show hd activity |
| 23:04:42 | | Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) |
| 23:04:44 | midknight2k3 | BOD |
| 23:04:47 | BoD[] | hello amigos |
| 23:04:47 | midknight2k3 | ITS MY BUD |
| 23:04:49 | Plugh | like what drugs I took this past weekend |
| 23:04:53 | Plugh | or whatever |
| 23:05:00 | BoD[] | :)) |
| 23:05:05 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 23:05:12 | midknight2k3 | midknight2k3> would it waste 70kb of code to just have an ption to reboot and shut down? |
| 23:06:11 | | Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-151-200-32-10.res.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:06:31 | BoD[] | do you talk to yourself?? |
| 23:06:40 | midknight2k3 | EARHURTS |
| 23:06:41 | midknight2k3 | YES |
| 23:06:46 | midknight2k3 | can you help redzone |
| 23:06:58 | earHurts | I'm just here for a minute |
| 23:07:04 | midknight2k3 | crackers. |
| 23:07:30 | earHurts | You'll be here later? |
| 23:07:46 | midknight2k3 | i hope |
| 23:07:56 | midknight2k3 | maybe in 3-4 hours? |
| 23:08:05 | earHurts | Yeah, ok |
| 23:08:10 | midknight2k3 | probably in the vicinity of that |
| 23:08:13 | midknight2k3 | thank god |
| 23:10:09 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 23:10:12 | midknight2k3 | i might have it done tonight |
| 23:10:18 | midknight2k3 | earhurtsrules! |
| 23:11:25 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:14:15 | Plugh | after that we can work on my projects ;) |
| 23:14:25 | midknight2k3 | like? |
| 23:14:39 | Plugh | virtual memory |
| 23:14:48 | midknight2k3 | crack addicts... |
| 23:14:49 | Plugh | and the hard drive bios flasher |
| 23:14:56 | midknight2k3 | whoopie doo |
| 23:16:33 | midknight2k3 | see ya all |
| 23:17:09 | midknight2k3 | THERE WILL BE A REDZONE! |
| 23:17:16 | | Quit midknight2k3 ("redzone is coming! runn!") |
| 23:18:08 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:18:32 | * | scott666 reads what just happened |
| 23:18:58 | scott666 | plugh you already said what drugs you did that weekend |
| 23:19:32 | Plugh | oh |
| 23:19:40 | Plugh | umm... I forgot |
| 23:19:41 | Plugh | ;) |
| 23:20:37 | scott666 | 06.15.04 # <scott666> acid has created some of the best music |
| 23:20:40 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:21:01 | scott666 | google searchable chat logs = interesting |
| 23:22:08 | | Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) |
| 23:22:29 | scott666 | dude i want a remote for my computer |
| 23:22:30 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:24:16 | Plugh | shit |
| 23:24:26 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:24:33 | Plugh | I submitted a feature request and it didn't take |
| 23:24:36 | Plugh | error page |
| 23:24:54 | Plugh | ah. there it goes |
| 23:26:18 | scott666 | what was it/ |
| 23:26:33 | Plugh | dunno. re-submitted and it worked |
| 23:26:42 | scott666 | no no what was the request |
| 23:26:57 | Plugh | I'll give you #s in a sex |
| 23:26:58 | Plugh | sec |
| 23:27:00 | Plugh | ;) |
| 23:27:02 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:27:05 | Plugh | sorry, sex on the brain |
| 23:27:07 | Plugh | as always |
| 23:27:26 | scott666 | werent you just talking about your step daughter? |
| 23:27:34 | scott666 | nevermind...i dont want to know |
| 23:28:07 | Plugh | she's 18 and a 42DD |
| 23:28:17 | Plugh | actually |
| 23:28:18 | scott666 | jesus christ |
| 23:28:21 | Plugh | she just turned 19 |
| 23:28:42 | scott666 | who cares, shes legal |
| 23:28:43 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:29:05 | BoD[] | what is "42DD" |
| 23:29:06 | BoD[] | ? |
| 23:29:11 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:29:13 | Plugh | breast size |
| 23:29:27 | BoD[] | oh ok |
| 23:29:35 | scott666 | wait...is the rest of her proportional? |
| 23:29:36 | BoD[] | here we have metric system for that ;))) |
| 23:29:43 | scott666 | really? |
| 23:29:44 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:29:59 | BoD[] | yep |
| 23:30:06 | Plugh | scott666: proportional for 42DD would be... odd looking |
| 23:30:17 | scott666 | i wouldve never thought the metric system extended into cup size |
| 23:30:19 | BoD[] | we mesure that in centimeter, plus a letter indicating the "depth" |
| 23:30:37 | BoD[] | thus, "90b" is good |
| 23:30:47 | scott666 | by odd looking do you mean fat? |
| 23:30:58 | scott666 | 90cm? |
| 23:30:59 | Plugh | 95cm? |
| 23:31:03 | BoD[] | yep |
| 23:31:16 | scott666 | whats the inch/cm ratio? |
| 23:31:21 | scott666 | 2.6cm = inch? |
| 23:31:24 | BoD[] | $ units |
| 23:31:29 | Plugh | I thought it was 2.25 |
| 23:31:35 | Plugh | but I could be wrong |
| 23:31:36 | scott666 | im not sure |
| 23:31:38 | Plugh | is it 2.54? |
| 23:31:54 | Plugh | that's be 107cm |
| 23:31:55 | BoD[] | 90cm == 35,4 inches |
| 23:32:06 | scott666 | i want a calculator plugin |
| 23:32:59 | Plugh | my requests were for using hard drive space as memory, like a virtual memory scheme |
| 23:33:29 | Plugh | and the flash utility for the hard drive BIOS so people don't have to disassemble their units to get rid of the hard drive clicks |
| 23:33:59 | scott666 | how would useing the HD for memory be helpful? |
| 23:34:26 | scott666 | we want LESS HD spin-ups |
| 23:34:46 | Plugh | wouldn't it be nice to be able to store your entire address book on your hard drive? |
| 23:34:49 | Plugh | before a mad scientist goes mad, there's probably a time when he's only |
| 23:34:52 | Plugh | partially mad, and this is the time when he's going to throw his best |
| 23:34:54 | Plugh | parties. −−jack handey |
| 23:35:02 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:35:13 | scott666 | i have a list of phone numbers |
| 23:36:02 | Plugh | I have over 1000 phone numberfs |
| 23:36:08 | scott666 | in the format of |
| 23:36:09 | scott666 | name−−xxx-xxx-xxxx |
| 23:36:22 | scott666 | works as long as no ones name is over 6 letters |
| 23:36:23 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:36:57 | scott666 | you could make a text db |
| 23:37:21 | Plugh | wouldn't be searchable on the archos |
| 23:37:28 | Plugh | I have a palm phone |
| 23:37:37 | Plugh | but I'm trying to find something less bulky |
| 23:37:50 | Plugh | it's all about convergence |
| 23:38:25 | scott666 | yeah |
| 23:38:49 | scott666 | archos MMs are going getting there |
| 23:39:03 | Plugh | I know |
| 23:39:05 | scott666 | as soon as they get a phone and interenet |
| 23:39:21 | Plugh | I keep looking at them, but can never justify $600 for one |
| 23:39:39 | scott666 | i have a headset that would work great with the line in, line out config |
| 23:41:28 | scott666 | i gotta burn some cds and this comp sucks |
| 23:41:33 | scott666 | ill be back in like half an hour |
| 23:41:38 | | Part scott666 |
| 23:45:18 | | Join ljx805 [0] (~ljx805@24-164-141-124.si.rr.com) |
| 23:45:33 | ljx805 | hey |
| 23:45:39 | ljx805 | anyone around? |
| 23:46:51 | hardeep | sure |
| 23:47:16 | ljx805 | hey |
| 23:47:28 | Plugh | barely |
| 23:47:57 | Plugh | but hardeep answers questions real good. I'm just a troublemaker |
| 23:48:27 | ljx805 | i was wondering if u can give me some advice....i was looking to buy the archos jukebox 5000 |
| 23:48:31 | ljx805 | any good |
| 23:48:51 | Plugh | I have an FM Recorder that I can tell you all about |
| 23:49:05 | Plugh | but the 5000 looks pretty good |
| 23:49:21 | ljx805 | and by adding roxbox would it improve it alot more |
| 23:49:25 | ljx805 | im kinda new |
| 23:49:52 | Plugh | I don't think it has the flash ram, so I don't believe it can store rockbox settings same as the recorders |
| 23:50:04 | Plugh | but I think it puts them on the hard drive |
| 23:51:05 | hardeep | ljx805: i'd recommend getting a recorder or fm recorder instead of the studio 5000 |
| 23:51:08 | ljx805 | so it just buts off the default settings |
| 23:51:38 | hardeep | ljx805: rockbox is available for both, but the number of features is significantly larger for the recorders |
| 23:51:38 | ljx805 | i mean i would get a recorder but i just but an amp and a sub in my car so im kinda of broke and this is the cheapest harddrive player |
| 23:51:44 | hardeep | primarily because of the lcd screen |
| 23:52:30 | ljx805 | is the 5000 really different from the 6000 except the for the amount of space on it |
| 23:52:41 | hardeep | ljx805: someone posted a recorder 15 for $160US which is fairly close to studio prices |
| 23:53:26 | ljx805 | really? do you kno what site that was? |
| 23:53:27 | hardeep | ljx805: yeah, storage space is the big difference between the two |
| 23:53:56 | hardeep | ljx805: not online, it was at Fry's which is a retail electronics store |
| 23:54:08 | hardeep | outpost.com is their online site but I don't see it listed there |
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| 23:55:06 | ljx805 | i guess those cheaper 5gb, 6gb, 10gb players are very hard to come by |
| 23:55:24 | ljx805 | the one im getting is from jandrmusicworld.com whis is in my area |
| 23:55:28 | hardeep | ljx805: archos doesn't sell them anymore... only the 15s and 20s |
| 23:55:32 | ljx805 | i dont have a fry's near me |
| 23:56:06 | hardeep | ljx805: you might want to check the recorder prices at j&r... i received a flyer from them a few weeks ago that had a pretty good price on the jbr15 |
| 23:56:17 | hardeep | i don't remember the exact price but it was < $200 |
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| 23:58:11 | ljx805 | i appreciate the help hardeep |
| 23:58:35 | hardeep | ljx805: the studio 5000 is still not bad and, to answer your question, rockbox will definitely make it better |
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