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#rockbox log for 2003-08-13

00:00:47tracktheripperdoes the AD converter sample 8bit or 16bit?
00:02:15tracktheripperoh ok
00:02:40tracktheripperi made an 8bit wav file from CD and it wasnt much difference to 16bit
00:03:59Zagorit's quite different. maybe you weren't using demanding music or listening through quality speakers
00:05:32tracktheripperim using PC speakers
00:05:35tracktheripperplaying RnB
00:11:05PlughI can't get away with playing music in the office
00:15:27tracktheripperis ISO something universonal recognised worldwide?
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00:17:01PlughISO is the International Standards Organization
00:17:30Plughbut the great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from
00:17:32tracktheripperyes but when is something referred to ISO is it something recocgnised worldwide?
00:17:51Plughthey're not a regulatory body
00:18:09Plughthey just number the standards documents
00:18:18Bagderiso is just an organization that works on standards
00:18:28Bagderthen other people decide wether to follow them
00:18:37tracktheripperso I was gonna if Zagor was ISO 1234 would the whole wide world think of Zagor when ISO 1234 is mentioned?
00:19:00Plughit doesn't really work that way
00:19:11Plughyou'd have to define Zagor in a document
00:19:23Plughthen it gets numbered
00:19:47tracktheripperok define zagor as "the man behind rockbox"
00:21:23Plughsomething tells me they wouldn't sign that one off
00:22:16Zagortracktheripper: iso is more for stuff like "a character set for western europe". or "standard cable dimensions for washing machines"
00:23:45*BoD[] going to watch divx ! bye
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00:23:54tracktheripperor a standard set for "Bjorn and co" :D
00:29:09tracktheripperim bored
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00:35:23midknight2k3I'M OFFICIALLY... NOT BACK
00:35:37midknight2k3where has linus been lately?
00:35:44#>>"seen" used by Bagder ( [snoop prevented]
00:36:07midknight2k3i haven't seen him in about 2 months
00:37:06Plughleave mid. Get on with your vacation
00:37:59midknight2k3i should have known
00:38:19midknight2k3just checking a few things
00:39:33tracktheripperhey midknight
00:39:37tracktheripperwheres the redzone?
00:39:52midknight2k3not ehre
00:40:52tracktheripperyou are useless :P
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00:43:03midknight2k3i am
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00:51:51Zagori'm off to bed
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00:54:42midknight2k3track track track
00:57:04midknight2k3want a redzone?
00:57:18midknight2k3i cannot make it
00:57:34midknight2k3earHurts aint her
00:57:38tracktheripperoh well
00:58:22midknight2k3i return tomorrow
00:58:28midknight2k3then i can get it working
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00:59:28tracktherippermidknight if u can't get it to work u can't
00:59:35midknight2k3i can
00:59:38midknight2k3earhurts needs to help
00:59:42midknight2k3it is ALMOST DONE
00:59:43midknight2k3but he left
00:59:50midknight2k3i have seen him not for a long time
00:59:52tracktheripperdo u have it working?
00:59:54midknight2k3he will eb back and i will too
00:59:57tracktheripperif u do send me the ajbrec
00:59:58midknight2k3no id ont
01:00:30Plughyeah. Earhurts has been afk for about 19 hours
01:00:40midknight2k3hes not even here
01:00:42Plughlogbot seen earhurts
01:00:53midknight2k3you need to /msg him
01:00:59Plugh21:02 < earHurts> true dat
01:01:07midknight2k3true what
01:01:25Plughthat was the last thing he said, and when he said it
01:03:11midknight2k3redzone soon
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01:03:11Plugh20:17 < earHurts> sup
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01:03:11***Alert Mode level 1
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01:03:11Plugh you"]
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01:03:11Plugh20:55 < AciD> ceiling
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01:03:11Plugh21:02 < earHurts> true dat
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01:03:11Plugh21:07 < AciD> gn
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01:03:11Plughmissed him
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02:05:21earHurtswhere my dogs at?
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02:13:37Plughhiya ear
02:14:09Plughmidknight was looking for you
02:14:19earHurtsyeah? red zone?
02:14:27Plughhow'd ya guess ;)
02:15:38earHurtshe wants a red zone
02:15:55earHurtsbah. cosmetics
02:25:23Plughbut useful cosmetics
02:26:09PlughHardeep's screen flip mod is pretty slick
02:26:47Plughkinda needs a little more work, but the meat of the patch is done
02:27:11Plughit'd be nice to have config options to flip the buttons and the screen individually
02:27:21earHurtsmy battery test builds are ready
02:27:33earHurtsI just need to write the test plan
02:27:43earHurtsand put it on the web
02:27:43PlughI've been using f2 screen to save my battery
02:27:49Plughdude, that's my specialty
02:27:55PlughI'm a QA engineer
02:28:08earHurtsyou want to test it?
02:28:34earHurtswhat model?
02:28:35PlughI have an FMR
02:28:47Plughno mods
02:29:27earHurtsok, first you'll need a 160 cbr album rip
02:30:00PlughI have CDEx
02:30:29PlughI can crank out a whole test suite worth of albums
02:30:51Plughjust need to find an audio CD ;)
02:30:56earHurtsok, make sure you rip an album > 30 minutes, >1p tracks
02:31:11Plugh1p? 10?
02:31:31earHurtsand it's got to be 160 cbr
02:31:34earHurtsno vbr
02:32:57Plughjoint stereo, 44.1k?
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02:37:23Plughyou've seen my mail addr on the list. Mail me the specs and what info you're trying to gather and I'll start working on a test plan for ya
02:42:16Plughanyhow, beer&pizza party
02:42:26Plughwe just released the latest rev of our product
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12:21:22earHurtshow are you gentlemen?
12:21:43*Bagder is fine
12:23:49earHurtsyou have no chance to survive make your time
12:24:12earHurtswhat's stop_thread do?
12:24:44BagderI dunno
12:24:50Bagderdoes anything use it?
12:27:19BagderI don't remember, read the source
12:27:43earHurtsok, what's the best way for a thread to suicide?
12:27:59Bagderwe have no dynamic threads
12:28:14Bagdersleep forever
12:28:23BagderI think
12:30:03earHurtssleep( max int )
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12:33:33earHurtsany players with modded memory?
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13:45:39adi|homeanyone recommend a site to order AA cables?
14:32:27earHurtsusb cables?
14:32:46earHurtsanyone here?
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14:48:16earHurtsyou, acid
14:48:43earHurtswanna be a tester?
14:49:14AciDwhat the purpose of being a tester ? breaking his own archos ? :x
14:49:25earHurtsyeah ;)
14:49:40AciDthat's sounds scary
14:49:48AciDi own a player
14:49:51AciDif needed
14:54:47AciDi could help you testing that patch
14:55:02AciDi imagine it's not important if i use it normally between each test ?
14:55:44earHurtsno, that's ok
14:56:07earHurtsbut do keep your headphones plugged in DURING the tests
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14:56:16AciDcoze as i'm a big user of my jukebox, u'll get the result in few weeks :x
14:56:33AciDwhich volume ?
14:56:35earHurtsyou can do the tests overnight
14:56:53earHurtsthe test software sets the volume automatically
14:57:29earHurtsjust make sure you charge with the test build, and that you fully charge
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15:47:30Empeethreehello Earhurths
15:47:42earHurtshow's it going?
15:47:51Empeethreenot too bad
15:48:06earHurtstake a look at this:
15:48:30Empeethreeyea one sec
15:52:26Empeethreelooks good
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16:08:17earHurtsare you taking part in the test, josh?
16:08:33joshnwhat test?
16:08:45earHurts take a look at this:
16:09:44joshnI doubt it; my Archos is kinda neglected these days. :-(
16:10:05earHurtsoh, too bad
16:10:51joshnI'm trying to port Rockbox to another player.
16:11:06Empeethreei just checked out some requests
16:11:22earHurtswhat player?
16:11:39earHurtswhat requests?
16:12:06Empeethreemostly the Recording ones
16:12:12Empeethreelike make and delete folders
16:13:02EmpeethreeHas anyone else noticed that when you use the Archos firmware to record the LCD loses its vertical hold?!
16:13:18earHurtsvertical hold?
16:13:28earHurtsnever saw that
16:14:05Empeethreethis is when using the Archos firmware to make very long recordings
16:14:36joshnearHurts: the NEO55; see
16:16:34earHurts how's it coming?
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16:17:03joshnjust started, have display code running
16:17:15joshnalmost all of the other hardware is identical
16:17:42joshnneed to talk to linus about some stuff, tho
16:18:38joshncloser to the recorder, but no recording
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16:30:24blastman007what is with the folder "System Volume information" ?
16:30:36scott666XP creates it
16:31:00blastman007can i delete this ?
16:31:31earHurtsnot in windows
16:31:41earHurtsyou can delete in in rockbox
16:31:54earHurtsbut windows will recreate it
16:32:15blastman007but the player doesent need this ?
16:34:12scott666you cant delete dirrectories in rockbox
16:34:30blastman007but windows
16:34:46blastman007did you have problems with "msblast.exe" ??
16:34:48earHurtsoh, right
16:35:00earHurtsno, I have a firewall
16:35:11earHurtsand all the current ns updates
16:35:15blastman007i have now oen
16:35:28earHurtskerio's nice and free
16:35:49earHurtsso, scott, participating in the test?
16:35:53blastman007Norton Personal Firewall
16:36:06scott666oh! right
16:36:08scott666your wps
16:36:46earHurtstake a look at this:
16:36:47blastman007wps ?
16:36:53earHurtsand then email me
16:36:56scott666while playing screen
16:37:10earHurtsextended battery life
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16:39:30blastman007i often have problems with copying music folder and much errors, what can i do ?
16:40:02earHurtswhat problems?
16:40:18blastman007Like "CRC Correction"
16:40:37blastman007and "Cant find ...."
16:41:02blastman007that was never till rockbox
16:41:08earHurtstry running chkdsk on the source and destination drives
16:41:23earHurtsthen run scandisk on them
16:41:25blastman007iam just formating it
16:41:37earHurtsor that
16:42:39blastman007that screen shows me 100% but it doesent stop
16:43:51earHurts the format doesn't stop?
16:44:16blastman007it is 100% but not finished
16:44:50earHurtssounds like it might be a disk problem
16:45:23blastman007do you "Fast formate" or normal (longer ) ??
16:45:53earHurtsif you think you have problems, do a scan disk
16:46:05blastman007but this was also with the archos software
16:46:25blastman007where is "scandisk" in win XP ?
16:47:19earHurtsright click on the disk in explorer, choose properties, then the tab marked tools
16:47:53blastman007ok thx
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16:48:29blastman007what is "Defragmentieren" ?
16:49:07blastman007what is it
16:49:14Bagderthat defrags the disk
16:49:41blastman007and what is "defrag" ?
16:49:50earHurtsit puts the parts of files in order
16:50:07earHurtsso that they can be sequentially accessed faster
16:51:06blastman007thank you I must go now
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19:38:16earHurtswow, it's so fun to participate in the extended battery life test!
19:56:29hardeepis that an advertisement? =)
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20:03:04Plughhiya ear
20:04:27PlughI got my 160kbit album on the unit. And I finally brought my USB cable to work so I can upload the firmware. heh
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20:17:25jorbondare there widgets for player plugins
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20:38:37jorbondoops wrong window
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21:22:55jorbondi have a nice little problem with my player
21:23:05jorbondi cant see the 2 line display of it
21:23:30jorbondit will show the top and bottom status things like battery and volume
21:23:35jorbondand it will play music
21:24:02jorbondthe only thing i did to maybe break it, is charge it b/c it worked before i plugged it in
21:24:58diddystar5not sure on that one. i couldn't see why charging would do that
21:25:24jorbondthis thing really pisses me off, i paid 200 for it and cant take it back b/c its past the 15 days
21:25:43jorbondand it takes like 5 tries to get it to boot
21:26:01diddystar5really i think you have a warrenty from archos
21:26:06jorbondi hold the on button and it will turn the green light on and the backlight and just stop
21:26:19jorbondwill have to check into that, i was just talking about the store policy
21:26:30jorbondthen i have to hold stop and try again
21:27:03diddystar5i had problems with my first two units so im now on my 3rd one
21:27:41jorbondhmm just plugged the usb cord in and the screen came up, so i rebooted and it works
21:28:00jorbondi love the mp3 player it just has a lot of litte annoying problems
21:28:37diddystar5i have had problems with the display before i got a recorder to get it to work i would turn it on then off then on.... a few times and it would work
21:28:50diddystar5give that a try
21:29:16jorbondits like the bios doesnt catch on bootup
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21:33:32jorbondthink i will send it back, until i get a "perfect one" lol
21:34:00diddystar5if you could i would recommend getting a recorder
21:34:43jorbondi will if they sent me the purchase pric but i know they will just replace it
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21:46:00scott666god this best buy application is hard
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22:12:42PlughI fear Best Buy is going to stop carrying Archos products because of all the returns
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23:09:26Plughwb scott
23:10:07Plugh Salami Fighting Association <−− bizarre
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23:48:47Empeethreehey hardeep
23:48:52Empeethreeim new to all this
23:49:03hardeepwelcome then :)
23:49:18EmpeethreeI cannot code, but I wouldn't mind helping in other areas
23:50:11Empeethreedo u like my name hardeep?
23:50:30hardeepnice :)
23:50:39hardeepEmpeethree: many ways you can help without coding
23:50:48Empeethreeim sure u can pronounce it :-)
23:50:50hardeepEmpeethree: just testing the daily builds and new feature is very helpful
23:51:06hardeepEmpeethree: documentation is another part that's lacking
23:51:18hardeepEmpeethree: new languages, new fonts are always nice
23:51:26EmpeethreeEmpeethree is pronounced M.P.3.
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23:53:35EmpeethreeHardeep some sort of "digital" font would look cool
23:53:40Empeethreelike on a calculator :-)
23:54:52hardeepEmpeethree: you can find info on creating fonts here:
23:55:22Empeethreeyea just viewing
23:55:36EmpeethreeIm mad about MP3s, encoders, and MP3 devices
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23:56:45Empeethreeyea I think ill start by creating a "digital" font
23:57:10midknight2k3a new rockbox font?
23:57:35Empeethreehello midknight2k3
23:57:57midknight2k3hello Empee...three
23:58:09midknight2k3is this earHurts?
23:58:10Empeethreeits pronounced MP3 (Empeethree)
23:58:15midknight2k3I know

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