#rockbox 2003-08-15

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#rockbox log for 2003-08-15

00:00:20		Join JT1 [0] (jirc@ACBD06F1.ipt.aol.com)
00:04:29		Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se)
00:04:36	Bagder	evening linus
00:04:40	LinusN	evening
00:05:10	JT1	hi linus
00:05:41	LinusN	hi
00:06:12	JT1	wats up?
00:06:24	LinusN	not much
00:06:26	JT1	I used the Archos ROM firmware the other day for some reason
00:06:48	LinusN	poor you
00:07:04	JT1	its not that bad in a way
00:07:37	LinusN	it works
00:07:40	LinusN	mostly
00:07:50	JT1	yea
00:08:04	JT1	i used it because I wanted to see the sliders :-)
00:08:42	LinusN	here we go again :-)
00:08:54	JT1	the Sliders do make sound adjusting easier
00:08:58	JT1	seriously
00:09:13	LinusN	"easier" is a subjective thing
00:09:16	JT1	because u get a visual indication over how much bass or treble u are adding or removing
00:09:24	Bagder	I disagree
00:09:31	JT1	why?
00:09:32	LinusN	some people find Rockbox easier because they want finer control
00:09:35	Bagder	they're eye candy and look good, yes
00:10:34	JT1	ok Linus how about a switchable option
00:10:38	JT1	sliders or numeric values?
00:10:48	LinusN	sure
00:10:58	JT1	because I actually prefert the sliders
00:10:59	Bagder	JT1: I don't think anyone is against sliders
00:11:12	Bagder	but no one has made any
00:11:14	JT1	theres a lot of space wasted on the LCD which could use a slider when using bass or treble
00:11:20	Bagder	or rather...
00:11:25	Bagder	some have, but never contributed the code
00:11:43	JT1	why don;t u or linus or zagor make them?
00:11:44	JT1	:-)
00:11:50	Bagder	why don't YOU?
00:11:57	JT1	because i can't code
00:12:10	Bagder	you can learn
00:12:17	JT1	dont have the time
00:12:18	JT1	:(
00:12:20	Zagor	we write what we want to use
00:12:45	JT1	ok Zagor, u the boss
00:13:06	Bagder	there are many people who could write a patch to offer sliders
00:13:13	Bagder	but none of them have so far
00:13:20	JT1	:-(
00:13:36	Zagor	JT1: that doesn't mean we refuse what we don't use ourselves. just that we aren't as likely to write it.
00:13:43	Bagder	but everyone and his aunt have features like this they want us to add
00:13:44	JT1	oh ok
00:13:50	JT1	yea
00:13:59	JT1	like the "make and delete folders"
00:14:18	Zagor	that one of the more useful features requested, actually :)
00:14:40	JT1	ok Zagor what are the unimplemented requests u think are most useful?
00:15:09	Zagor	JT1: id3 database is on my toplist.
00:15:23	Zagor	i can't say i keep a toplist, but that's one I can think of right away
00:15:55	JT1	track has loads of ideas
00:15:55	Topic	"Today's news: 370 open feature requests" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
00:16:38	Bagder	and he whines and nags about them all the time
00:16:44	JT1	lol
00:16:51	Bagder	"when will you make it reshuffle on repeat"
00:16:53	JT1	im sure he means no harm
00:17:08	Bagder	I don't think he means harm either
00:18:06	Bagder	but then again
00:18:09	Bagder	you are track
00:18:14	Bagder	right?
00:18:16	JT1	ino
00:18:19	JT1	no
00:19:14	JT1	anyway is there gonna be any new features added?
00:19:26	Bagder	JT1: so how come you're on track's host?
00:19:30	Zagor	no new features, ever
00:19:40	JT1	just a co-incident
00:19:52	Bagder	haha
00:19:55	JT1	just a co-incidance
00:20:02	#>>	"seen" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented]
00:20:09	Bagder	yeah, right
00:20:19	JT1	honest
00:20:22	Ctcp	DCC request from Zagor!bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se (CHAT chat 3654789665 26567)
00:20:22	Client	Zagor (Zagor) added
00:20:22	Client	Connection accepted at socket 4
00:21:02	JT1	do u really hate him?
00:21:10	LinusN	why?
00:21:22	JT1	for all those requests which are rejectes
00:21:24	Bagder	who said we hated him`
00:22:27		Quit JT1 ("Leaving")
00:22:42		Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBD06F1.ipt.aol.com)
00:22:53	Bagder	oh, what a surprise!
00:22:57	LinusN	:-)
00:23:37	tracktheripper	hi
00:26:19		Join miko_ [0] (~miko@194.30.143.58)
00:26:28	miko_	what's rockbox?
00:26:36	#>>	"explain rockbox" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
00:27:23	miko_	oh i see
00:27:26	miko_	thank you =)
00:27:31		Part miko_ ("Leaving")
00:27:36	LinusN	:-)
00:28:38	tracktheripper	i give up disguising
00:28:40	tracktheripper	really I do
00:29:10	Bagder	changing nick is not enough you know ;-)
00:29:25	LinusN	are you going to confess that you really are Zagor? :-)
00:29:31	Bagder	hahah
00:29:36	Client	Zagor removed at socket 4
00:29:47	Bagder	ok I'll confess:
00:29:48	tracktheripper	no
00:29:54	Bagder	I'm Zagor's brother!
00:29:56	Bagder	aaaaah
00:30:01	LinusN	oh no!
00:30:13	LinusN	i thought i was!
00:30:26	Bagder	nono, you're his uncle
00:31:00	tracktheripper	and i confess to being an annoying little brat
00:32:24	LinusN	oh no!
00:32:25	LinusN	i thought i was!
00:32:33	tracktheripper	wrong
00:32:34	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
00:32:34	*	Bagder gigles
00:32:34	tracktheripper	because I am
00:32:57	tracktheripper	I was gonna file "Use the wiggly Play button as a joystick" but I didn't
00:33:04	LinusN	haha
00:34:04	tracktheripper	:-)
00:35:04	tracktheripper	so how do I change the IP address?
00:35:32	Bagder	step 1. learn how networks work
00:36:38	Bagder	step 2. realize that you get one by your provider and cannot change it
00:36:54	Bagder	step 3. login to another computer and irc from there, using a different ip
00:37:17	Bagder	questions?
00:37:21	Bagder	B-]
00:37:53	tracktheripper	well if u like u can always erase my Sourceforge account and ban me from coming here
00:38:09	Bagder	are we depressed today or what?
00:38:10	LinusN	why?
00:38:37		Join blastman007 [0] (blastman00@p50840A8A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
00:38:43	tracktheripper	because Bjorn and co don't like me
00:38:49	tracktheripper	and im very very very depressed
00:38:54	blastman007	hoi
00:38:58	LinusN	hoi
00:39:03	Bagder	you're paranoid track
00:39:14	blastman007	do you know "schranz" ??
00:39:15	tracktheripper	you do not come in here and address the IRC as hoi
00:39:34	LinusN	schranz?
00:39:37	blastman007	yes
00:39:44	LinusN	is that a person?
00:39:47	blastman007	n :-)
00:39:51	blastman007	no
00:39:56	blastman007	lol **
00:39:59	Bagder	schranz as in "you seen that big schranz lately" ?
00:40:10	*	Bagder looks at blastman007
00:40:12	LinusN	oh, what a big schranz you have
00:40:14	blastman007	i dondt knwo that
00:40:19	Bagder	hahah
00:40:24	blastman007	noo
00:40:28	blastman007	yu mean 18cm ?
00:40:32	blastman007	muhuahahah
00:40:36	blastman007	noooo nooo noo
00:40:37	LinusN	look out! he has a schranz!
00:40:46	tracktheripper	grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
00:40:47	blastman007	schranz is an other word for techno
00:40:51	tracktheripper	im gonna buy an Ipod tommorow
00:41:03	LinusN	tracktheripper: traitor
00:41:16	Bagder	tracktheripper: you keep saying that, but so far you haven't
00:41:19	blastman007	i think it is an german word i dont know
00:41:19	tracktheripper	and im gonna file "make Ipod run on the Rockbox"
00:41:22		Join joshn [0] (joshn@204.251.225.74)
00:42:00	Bagder	tracktheripper: do that on Apple's feature-request tracker ;-)
00:42:14	Bagder	hihi
00:42:31	tracktheripper	ok just fix "Reshuffle" then ill shut up
00:42:32	tracktheripper	:-)
00:42:55	DBUG	Sent KICK blastman007 to server
00:42:55	*	blastman007 (�`�._(�`�._(�`�._( tracktheripper )_.��)_.��)_.��)
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00:42:55	Kick	(#rockbox blastman007 :Colourcodes are not appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se
00:42:55		Join blastman007 [0] (blastman00@p50840A8A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
00:43:06	blastman007	bye must go to bed now
00:43:11	LinusN	sleep tight
00:43:21	blastman007	wiht my schranz
00:43:25	blastman007	muhahaha
00:43:27	blastman007	byw
00:43:29	blastman007	cu
00:43:32		Quit blastman007 (Client Quit)
00:43:51	LinusN	schranzman007?
00:43:52	tracktheripper	yea Bjorn and co fix "Reshuffle" then ill shut it
00:43:52	tracktheripper	:)
00:45:40	joshn	BTW, linus, did you get my email?
00:45:43		Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@ACC7CB99.ipt.aol.com)
00:45:53	midknight2k3	holy junkers
00:45:55	hardeep	hmmm, 370 open feature requests
00:46:10	midknight2k3	ever single person i have ever met is in here
00:46:12	hardeep	how about freezing new feature requests until we get back down to a reasonable number... =)
00:46:26	midknight2k3	hardeep: well, start off by going through them once more
00:46:32	midknight2k3	many can be rejected right away
00:46:50	Bagder	true
00:47:00	LinusN	joshn: yes, i haven't had the time yet, though
00:47:04	midknight2k3	i see many "invalid"s
00:47:10	joshn	ok, that's fine; no hurry
00:47:14	Bagder	the invalids are not included in the open count
00:47:20	midknight2k3	yeah
00:47:21	joshn	just wanted to make sure it got to the right place :-)
00:47:30	midknight2k3	i mean i see many that can be marked invalid
00:47:40	midknight2k3	just impossible
00:48:05	tracktheripper	just reject all my requests
00:48:07	tracktheripper	problem solved
00:48:10	LinusN	haha
00:48:12	midknight2k3	lol
00:48:19	midknight2k3	seems sensible
00:48:20	Bagder	most them already are ;-)
00:48:23	midknight2k3	EXCEPT the rezone
00:48:27	tracktheripper	yea go on
00:48:27	tracktheripper	:-)
00:48:28	midknight2k3	redzone
00:48:32	tracktheripper	no skin off my nose
00:48:39	Plugh	which Linus feels is pointless ;)
00:49:13	tracktheripper	everything is covered anyway
00:49:19	tracktheripper	no more new features are worth adding
00:49:19	midknight2k3	http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=656629
00:49:23	midknight2k3	AFAIK impossible
00:49:41	midknight2k3	wish i could be an admin
00:49:41	LinusN	not really
00:49:45	midknight2k3	get to business lol
00:50:03	midknight2k3	Linus: zagor already stated it was simple to make a pop but impossible for a beep?
00:50:08	LinusN	a beep isn't impossible at all
00:50:19	LinusN	just very tricky
00:50:33	tracktheripper	just include a MP3 file that is a beep
00:50:35	midknight2k3	that should be a .. priority of 3
00:50:41	midknight2k3	lol
00:50:48	midknight2k3	and every time spin up to play it?
00:50:58	LinusN	tracktheripper: exactly, the hard part is how to insert it into the playing stream
00:51:17	tracktheripper	oh ok
00:51:27	midknight2k3	i think the most sensible is Redzone
00:51:34	midknight2k3	give that an eight
00:52:07	midknight2k3	err
00:52:08	midknight2k3	http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=731902
00:52:13	midknight2k3	reject and i am sure
00:52:21	midknight2k3	usb mode is "dummy" mode
00:52:32	LinusN	fm is perfectly possible in usb mode
00:52:40	midknight2k3	are you kidding me?
00:52:43	LinusN	no
00:53:06	LinusN	usb mode only restricts hard drive access, everything else is running like normal
00:53:37	midknight2k3	hmm
00:53:57	midknight2k3	so we could watch "bounce" while transferring files?
00:54:01	LinusN	yes
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00:54:17	midknight2k3	yahoo
00:54:27		Quit scott666 (Client Quit)
00:54:37	LinusN	you scared him off!
00:54:40	LinusN	:-)
00:54:49	midknight2k3	lol
00:55:00	midknight2k3	come back!
00:55:02	midknight2k3	haha
00:55:08	midknight2k3	tracktheripper protending to be someone else
00:55:11	midknight2k3	*pretending
00:55:16	midknight2k3	http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=666178
00:55:27	midknight2k3	3rd comment from the top
00:55:34	midknight2k3	haha sounds just like him
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00:55:58	LinusN	yahoo
00:56:09	midknight2k3	i am sorry scott
00:56:14	midknight2k3	i meant not to scare you
00:56:17	LinusN	:-)
00:56:28	scott666	trillian wanted to be patched
00:56:56	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
00:57:02	Bagder	we should make bounce the usb screen :-)
00:57:03	tracktheripper	what u mean 3rd line from top?
00:57:12	midknight2k3	third comment
00:57:22	midknight2k3	READ stoopid
00:57:23	midknight2k3	lol
00:57:24	midknight2k3	http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=674668
00:57:26	midknight2k3	i dont get it
00:57:38	midknight2k3	you mean like vertical text?
00:58:08	midknight2k3	oh
00:58:17	midknight2k3	like going up then entering from the bottom
00:58:44	scott666	why though?
00:58:48	midknight2k3	Linus, or zagor: can we have animated menus like where the line selector will "slide" down the options available instead of jumping?
00:58:51	midknight2k3	yeah i dunno
00:58:56	LinusN	Bagder: yeah, bouncing the word "USB"
00:58:59	scott666	ooooh i know
00:59:09	midknight2k3	it was me linus
00:59:09	scott666	so you can have more then 7 lines
00:59:11	midknight2k3	not bagder
00:59:17	midknight2k3	yeah
00:59:22	midknight2k3	makes a little more sense
00:59:32	scott666	you could have like 10 lines and have em scroll up and down
00:59:41		Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr)
00:59:47	midknight2k3	sheeeeeesh
00:59:48	BoD[]	ho
00:59:50	BoD[]	hi
01:00
01:00:00	midknight2k3	if earhurts comes i can say everyone i ever met/liked is in here
01:00:17	midknight2k3	even people i haven't seen for months
01:00:30	midknight2k3	is it a special day?
01:00:35	BoD[]	?
01:00:35	scott666	yeah its rare when theres actually people here
01:00:49	midknight2k3	i dunno EVERYone's here
01:01:10	tracktheripper	whats happening wiv the redzone
01:01:11	BoD[]	oh
01:01:14	LinusN	it's Rockbox Appreciation Day
01:01:23	midknight2k3	YAY! I APPRECIATE
01:02:19	midknight2k3	on the count of three we all say "i appreciate!"
01:02:19	midknight2k3	1
01:02:19	midknight2k3	2
01:02:19	DBUG	Sent KICK midknight2k3 to server
01:02:19	midknight2k3	3
01:02:19	midknight2k3	i appreciate!!!!
01:02:19	***	Alert Mode level 1
01:02:19	DBUG	sent MODE #rockbox +b !LaLaLaLa@.ipt.aol.com
01:02:19	midknight2k3	uhhhh.. hello?
01:02:19	Kick	(#rockbox midknight2k3 :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se
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01:02:19	Mode	"#rockbox +b !LaLaLaLa@.ipt.aol.com " by logbot (~bjst@labb.contactor.se)
01:02:29	tracktheripper	why not use both lines of character cells on the Player as a peak meter
01:02:32	scott666	lol
01:02:33	BoD[]	i appreciate rockbox
01:02:35	LinusN	tracktheripper: it will be implemented some day when someone feels like implementing it
01:02:37	BoD[]	i appreciate!!!!
01:02:53	mecraw	anyone think it's time to update http://rockbox.haxx.se/TODO ?
01:02:53	DBUG	sent MODE #rockbox -b !LaLaLaLa@.ipt.aol.com
01:02:54	Mode	"#rockbox -b !LaLaLaLa@.ipt.aol.com " by logbot (~bjst@labb.contactor.se)
01:03:01	LinusN	tracktheripper: the missing peak meter on the Player is not about the LCD limitations
01:03:02	tracktheripper	what LinusN
01:03:19	tracktheripper	:-(
01:03:29	tracktheripper	just use borth lines of character cells
01:03:57	Zagor	mecraw: fixed :)
01:03:59		Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@ACC7CB99.ipt.aol.com)
01:04:04	LinusN	the MAS on the Player doesn't have a way of reading the peak
01:04:06	midknight2k3	who made logbot an admin?
01:04:08	midknight2k3	undo him
01:04:10	tracktheripper	awwwwwww
01:04:13	Zagor	midknight2k3: i did
01:04:17	mecraw	Zagor: is that the fastest fix yet?
01:04:24	Zagor	mecraw: :)
01:04:29	tracktheripper	seems the Player can't do anything compared to ther Recorder
01:04:32	midknight2k3	i dislike logbot when he is an admin
01:04:50	midknight2k3	can it be done? the animated menu thing?
01:04:54	midknight2k3	or a graphical one?
01:04:55	LinusN	i like when logbot is admin
01:05:01	midknight2k3	why linus?
01:05:23	tracktheripper	so are more requests gonna be rejected now?
01:05:30	LinusN	tracktheripper: the Player MAS is not as cool as the one on the Recorder
01:05:31	midknight2k3	i hope
01:05:38	tracktheripper	oh ok
01:05:41	midknight2k3	do i get an answer?
01:05:59	hardeep	you can't handle the answer!
01:06:12	LinusN	i like when logbot kicks the lame colorcode l00sers
01:06:19	midknight2k3	but
01:06:20	midknight2k3	but
01:06:24	midknight2k3	logbot can talk?
01:07:08	tracktheripper	so am I
01:07:08	scott666	badger?
01:07:10	Bagder	you too?
01:07:17	scott666	heh
01:07:19	midknight2k3	uhh
01:07:23	Zagor	i have many brothers
01:07:23	midknight2k3	let's get back on topic
01:07:26	BoD[]	;)
01:07:32	midknight2k3	can you answer me or must i ask for the fourth time?
01:07:39	midknight2k3	i can handle the answer
01:07:47	tracktheripper	tea maker
01:07:59	LinusN	midknight2k3: the animated menu thing will probably be too slow
01:08:14	midknight2k3	graphic menu then?
01:08:25	LinusN	define "graphic menu"
01:08:39	midknight2k3	well hang a second
01:08:55	Zagor	by the way, i have a fix for the 16-pixel limitation in lcd_bitmap
01:09:01	LinusN	nice
01:09:03	Zagor	it also speeds up update() a bit
01:09:09	LinusN	even nicer
01:09:10	tracktheripper	yea?
01:09:15	tracktheripper	can it now display greyscale?
01:09:21	Zagor	no
01:09:24	midknight2k3	lol
01:09:34	Bagder	Zagor: nicers
01:09:41	tracktheripper	tea maker
01:09:49	Bagder	Zagor: then the logo function can be improved slightly
01:09:54	Zagor	Bagder: yes
01:10:14	LinusN	and the Player LCD emulation :-)
01:10:23	midknight2k3	what?
01:10:25	midknight2k3	new logo?
01:10:26	tracktheripper	pardon LinusN?
01:10:27	midknight2k3	better logo?
01:10:59	Bagder	read again :-)
01:11:03	midknight2k3	linus here's what i mean
01:11:04	midknight2k3	http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/casioqv3000/images/qv3000_71.jpg
01:11:05	LinusN	the logo drawing routine will be simpler, that's all
01:11:19	midknight2k3	it's way more graphical than it should be but i was thinking something along those lines
01:11:28	LinusN	midknight2k3: why?
01:11:36	scott666	yeah
01:11:37	midknight2k3	.. it looks better?
01:11:44	midknight2k3	i am not sure it would be cool
01:11:53	scott666	in black and white?
01:11:54	LinusN	i think it looks very cryptic
01:11:58	midknight2k3	and little icons like a gear for general settings and a speaker for spund settings
01:12:12	midknight2k3	and a ...
01:12:14	midknight2k3	a....
01:12:16	midknight2k3	er
01:12:18	midknight2k3	thats all
01:12:20	***	Alert Mode OFF
01:12:40	LinusN	most of the time i dislike pictograms
01:12:56	midknight2k3	well sheesh
01:13:07	midknight2k3	2.2 holds a user interface overhaul
01:13:11	midknight2k3	what wuld that be like?
01:13:18	LinusN	because there are few of them that are easily understood by all people
01:13:21	tracktheripper	which is not possible i believe
01:13:57	scott666	i want to know what the features and fixes held off for 2.0 are
01:14:06	LinusN	midknight2k3: the GUI overhaul is mainly a menu redesign and a remap of the keys
01:14:16	midknight2k3	scott
01:14:21	midknight2k3	how about everything?
01:14:24	midknight2k3	radio?
01:14:28	midknight2k3	caption backlight?
01:14:31	midknight2k3	you know
01:14:33	midknight2k3	line selector
01:14:37	midknight2k3	all the new stuff
01:14:41	scott666	yeah but why arent we AT 2.1?
01:14:49	midknight2k3	i have no idea.
01:14:57	LinusN	because we don't feel that it is stable enough?
01:15:06	midknight2k3	well linus what did you have in mind?
01:15:08	scott666	why not/
01:15:20	midknight2k3	i see no other way to put the menu really
01:15:23	LinusN	or because we want to shove more thing in?
01:15:30	midknight2k3	maybe like a one selector and left and right to select or soemthing
01:15:43	midknight2k3	2.1 will be the biggest update ever then
01:15:47	midknight2k3	if it aint already
01:16:16	LinusN	maybe
01:16:27	midknight2k3	but still
01:16:31	midknight2k3	that's not really easier
01:16:37	midknight2k3	i will get it when it is done
01:16:48	midknight2k3	im sure you will come up with something good
01:17:28	LinusN	if you want nice icons and pretty menus you will be disappointed
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01:17:42	midknight2k3	nah
01:18:14	midknight2k3	i just don't see how it could be different than what it is without being out of your... "specifications"
01:18:32	tracktheripper	midknight just get back to the peak meter redzone please
01:18:41	midknight2k3	i can't
01:18:44	midknight2k3	nobody can help
01:18:48	midknight2k3	earhurts is missing
01:18:51	scott666	you could have the F buttons do different things in different places
01:18:58	midknight2k3	makes sense
01:20:41	scott666	having F3 doing ANYTHING but what it does now would be an improvment
01:20:58	midknight2k3	lol
01:21:02	LinusN	http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-04/0946.shtml
01:21:29	scott666	is that badgers context sensitive idea?
01:21:34	LinusN	yes
01:22:01	scott666	thats a good idea
01:22:19	tracktheripper	ive got a good idea
01:22:29	tracktheripper	Add the UP arrow in the Fx menus
01:22:34	tracktheripper	its wasted doing nothing
01:22:51	midknight2k3	oh boy
01:22:52	midknight2k3	here we go
01:23:12	scott666	not possible due to hardware limitations
01:23:20	midknight2k3	erm
01:23:23	midknight2k3	true scott
01:23:24	LinusN	tracktheripper: didn't i explain that to you?
01:23:30	midknight2k3	lol
01:23:32	midknight2k3	here we go
01:23:34	midknight2k3	hold on tight
01:23:50	tracktheripper	no you didn't
01:24:16	LinusN	the quick screens are designed to accept key combos
01:24:26	LinusN	like F2+down
01:24:36	LinusN	or f2 and then down
01:25:07	LinusN	however, the UP key can't be combined with the Fx keys
01:25:13	tracktheripper	well write a software up button then
01:25:14	tracktheripper	:)
01:25:23	midknight2k3	sigh
01:25:32	midknight2k3	like the software tuner?
01:25:35	LinusN	yeah, like a hologram, hovering right above the LCD
01:25:41	scott666	heh
01:26:04	midknight2k3	how about the faster rolo-load?
01:26:08	midknight2k3	is that going into rockbox?
01:26:09	scott666	id vote for removing Fx+direction
01:26:21	tracktheripper	or the coffee maker
01:26:21	scott666	and just keeping menus
01:26:23	LinusN	the faster rolo will be accepted
01:26:33	LinusN	scott666: agreed
01:26:42	midknight2k3	tracktheripper
01:26:49	tracktheripper	what?
01:26:59	midknight2k3	i don't think it would work if you tried to leave the tracktheripper persona behind you like youa ttempted
01:27:09	midknight2k3	it sort of is just obvious it'
01:27:11	midknight2k3	s you
01:27:44	tracktheripper	timestretch
01:28:20	scott666	yeah, just reprogram the MAS
01:29:14	scott666	programming without documentation is the hardcore way
01:29:15	tracktheripper	no
01:29:23	tracktheripper	just keep the pitch constant :-)
01:29:31	midknight2k3	scott
01:29:35	midknight2k3	it is possible lol
01:29:43	midknight2k3	but it is hard
01:29:51	scott666	iff we had the documentation
01:34:35	midknight2k3	who can help me code the redzone?
01:37:15	Zagor	bed time. bye.
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01:40:38	midknight2k3	tracktheripper
01:40:44	tracktheripper	what
01:40:52	midknight2k3	before you leave from now on can you please please tell us that you are leaving?
01:41:19	tracktheripper	why
01:41:31	midknight2k3	i never have chance to say bye or anything
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01:52:53	tracktheripper	In most cases changing the pitch sounds a lot better than timestretch
01:53:08	midknight2k3	probably yes
01:53:16	midknight2k3	i rarely do though
01:53:21	midknight2k3	why do you wnat to?
01:54:03	tracktheripper	never mind
01:54:21	midknight2k3	uh
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01:58:00	midknight2k3	one sec
01:58:27	midknight2k3	stay track
01:58:30	midknight2k3	i have an idea
01:58:48	Plugh	I knew I smelled smoke
02:00
02:01:13	midknight2k3	what?
02:01:22	Plugh	what?
02:01:38	midknight2k3	"i knew i smelled smoke"
02:01:52	*	Plugh looks around innocently
02:02:02	*	midknight2k3 wonders...
02:03:56	midknight2k3	what did you mean
02:04:10	Plugh	gears grinding around in yer head
02:04:19	Plugh	you said you had an idea
02:04:31	Plugh	nevermind... wasn't really funny anyway
02:04:34	midknight2k3	lol
02:04:45	midknight2k3	i guess now it makes a bit of sense
02:04:52	midknight2k3	still sort of odd
02:05:20	Plugh	it's my common response to someone who says "I've been thinking..." with a long, dramatic pause
02:05:39	midknight2k3	aha
02:05:43	midknight2k3	now i know what it means
02:05:46	midknight2k3	you can use it now
02:06:05	Plugh	too late. It's been analyzed to the point of unfunnyness
02:06:11	midknight2k3	lol
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02:20:48	Plugh	I love America. This year, at Burning Man:
02:20:49	Plugh	bianca's will once again be in full effect. They have been rather
02:20:49	Plugh	secretive about the shack's location. It's down over on the end there
02:20:49	DBUG	Sent KICK Plugh to server
02:20:49	Plugh	past that giant thing Todd Rundgren is building.
02:20:49	Plugh	If you missed it last year, then you're in for a real treat this year.
02:20:50	Kick	(#rockbox Plugh :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se
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02:21:04	Plugh	thanks logbot
02:21:05	midknight2k3	i hate logbot
02:21:05	midknight2k3	lol
02:21:27	*	Plugh anally fistfucks the bot
02:21:29	midknight2k3	i really understand thanks plugh
02:21:34	midknight2k3	uh
02:21:41	midknight2k3	* Plugh is weird
02:21:56	Plugh	did I ever claim otherwise?
02:22:11	LinusN	time to sleep
02:22:14	LinusN	nite all
02:22:18	Plugh	g'night Linus
02:22:19	midknight2k3	nite
02:22:26		Part LinusN
02:22:41	midknight2k3	<midknight2k3> <Plugh> i am retarted
02:23:00	midknight2k3	err
02:23:08	midknight2k3	<Plugh> i am retarted
02:23:12	Plugh	No definitions found for "retarted", perhaps you mean:
02:23:13	Plugh	web1913: Retorted Retarded
02:23:13	Plugh	wn: retarded
02:23:19	midknight2k3	<Plugh> i am retarted
02:23:24	DBUG	Sent KICK midknight2k3 to server
02:23:24	midknight2k3	<Plugh> i am retarted
02:23:24	Kick	(#rockbox midknight2k3 :Stop repeating yourself) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se
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02:23:33	midknight2k3	fuck asshole dumb logbot
02:23:48	Plugh	see? Now you want a piece of the bot's ass
02:23:52	Plugh	wait till I'm done
02:23:53	midknight2k3	no thanks
02:24:48	Plugh	just repeat to yourself aloud, "I am Sofa King. We Todd Ed."
02:25:12	midknight2k3	no
02:25:15	midknight2k3	it is untrue
02:25:31	Plugh	you're not Sofa King?
02:25:46	midknight2k3	i am sofa kind but i am not we todd ed
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02:29:20	midknight2k3	hmm
02:29:23	midknight2k3	admin
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02:52:10	mk2k3	HE IS BACK THAT BUM
02:52:16	mk2k3	grr.
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02:53:25	Plugh	17:47 -!- midknight2k3 [LaLaLaLaLa@ACC7CB99.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Excess Flood]
02:53:29	Plugh	17:48 < Plugh> snicker
02:53:36	midknight2k3	lol
02:53:44	Plugh	17:47 < midknight2k3> now i can flood
02:54:08	scott666	lol
02:54:11	midknight2k3	hush youe face\
02:54:15	midknight2k3	I HATE LOGBOT
02:54:28	Plugh	had to get that in the channel for the logbot to see so it would be on the web for posterity
02:54:31	Plugh	;)
02:54:44	midknight2k3	hey!
02:54:45	midknight2k3	lol
02:55:01	scott666	106807 pwns j00
02:55:13	midknight2k3	pwns me, huh?
02:55:18	midknight2k3	k00l
02:55:24	Plugh	you realize that you opened a can of worms in AIM yesterday...
02:55:43	midknight2k3	5C077666 15 4 R374RD.
02:55:48	midknight2k3	can of worms?
02:56:04	midknight2k3	i mean
02:56:12	midknight2k3	C4N 0F W0RM5?
02:56:23	midknight2k3	what mean you that by?
02:56:47	Plugh	yeah. Now I will tease you mercilessly for your next 20 years on IRC
02:56:53	Plugh	about everything
02:56:58	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
02:56:59	midknight2k3	what do you mean?
02:57:52	Plugh	I have two modes on IRC. Passive and playful
02:57:59	Plugh	you flipped my playful switch
02:58:03	midknight2k3	what???
02:58:18	scott666	hes gonna play with you?
02:58:30	midknight2k3	he did play with me
02:58:36	midknight2k3	what do you mean by this Plugh?
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02:58:59	Plugh	I will tease, berate, pester, flood, and joke about you behind your back
02:59:09	midknight2k3	why?
02:59:15	midknight2k3	i don't understand
02:59:18	midknight2k3	please just explain
02:59:47	Plugh	once someone shows themselves to have a sense of humor on IRC, I will challenge it
02:59:58	midknight2k3	er
03:00
03:00:06	midknight2k3	what does this have to do with aim on irc?
03:00:15	scott666	how do you challenge humor/
03:00:26	Plugh	I don't challenge the humor
03:00:33	Plugh	I challenge your sense of humor
03:00:46	midknight2k3	AND?
03:00:52	scott666	then what are you challengeing?
03:00:54	Plugh	don't ask
03:00:57	Plugh	just watch
03:01:01	midknight2k3	uh
03:01:02	Plugh	heh
03:01:04	midknight2k3	ok....
03:01:12	*	scott666 watches *
03:01:21	*	midknight2k3 just waits *
03:02:18	Plugh	until you tried to flood me on the other IRC net, I would never have cracked the sofa king joke
03:02:32	Plugh	just as an example
03:02:41	midknight2k3	what?
03:02:53	scott666	sofa king?
03:02:55	midknight2k3	oh
03:03:04	midknight2k3	"i am sofa kind. We Todd ed.
03:03:15	midknight2k3	what does this have to do with anything?
03:03:21	Plugh	nothing really
03:03:27	midknight2k3	i want to know about these worms
03:04:42	Plugh	oh, you will
03:04:46	scott666	lol
03:04:51	midknight2k3	huh what?
03:05:27	scott666	can of worms is a figure of speech
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03:05:37	midknight2k3	no wait
03:05:40	midknight2k3	what is going on here?
03:05:56	scott666	hes going to digitally molest you
03:06:00	scott666	basically
03:06:01	scott666	lol
03:06:15	midknight2k3	uh oh
03:06:34	midknight2k3	let's see here, block him would be the first step...
03:07:34	midknight2k3	because i flooded him after he flooded me?
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03:08:14	midknight2k3	http://www.happydranch.com/canoworms.html
03:08:30	midknight2k3	buy me one
03:09:11	ChesterMolestor	anyone else old enough to remember Chester the Molestor?
03:09:22	midknight2k3	er
03:10:23	midknight2k3	ow
03:10:27	midknight2k3	my cat attacked me
03:10:49	ChesterMolestor	my kitten jumped on my bare back this morning
03:10:58	midknight2k3	well
03:11:02	ChesterMolestor	while I was on the computer
03:11:08	midknight2k3	haha
03:11:14	midknight2k3	did it hurt?
03:11:25	ChesterMolestor	fuckin a
03:11:31	midknight2k3	lol
03:11:43	midknight2k3	throw out office space
03:11:51	midknight2k3	was it you that was talking about it before?
03:12:04	ChesterMolestor	probably
03:12:10	midknight2k3	i recall
03:12:22	midknight2k3	"someone gets so frustrated with their computer they kick it to hte hall"
03:12:44	ChesterMolestor	the fax machine in Office Space
03:12:54	midknight2k3	OH GOD
03:13:01	midknight2k3	but you said...
03:13:02	scott666	lol
03:13:03	midknight2k3	but...
03:13:07	midknight2k3	i...
03:13:08	midknight2k3	it...
03:13:16	midknight2k3	grr. i was tricked.
03:13:46	ChesterMolestor	did you want your can with or without worms?
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03:14:09	midknight2k3	with
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03:19:59	scott666	ahh, but how are you gonna get them in the can?
03:20:11	midknight2k3	i dont know
03:21:44	*	Plugh knows how to get 'em in the can...
03:21:47	Plugh	but not tellin
03:21:58	midknight2k3	i do to
03:22:05	scott666	liar!
03:22:08	midknight2k3	you pick them up, andput them in DUHHH
03:22:19	scott666	you have to close the can thuogh
03:22:37	midknight2k3	dur dum dee?
03:22:46	midknight2k3	you uh
03:22:53	midknight2k3	take the lid and tigten it on
03:22:58	midknight2k3	or push it on either one
03:23:25	scott666	youre so naive
03:23:33	midknight2k3	how?
03:24:20	*	scott666 sighs
03:24:55	midknight2k3	you mean like worms like viruses?
03:25:09	midknight2k3	i must download that pirated version of systemworks 2003!
03:25:18	midknight2k3	YOULL NEVER GET ME MATEYS
03:25:26	midknight2k3	NO WAY ERHEHEHAHAH
03:25:30	midknight2k3	I AM SO SMART!
03:25:36	midknight2k3	NON NAEVE
03:25:43	Plugh	who can tell me what protocol the first Internet worm exploited?
03:25:55	midknight2k3	it was protocal 53
03:26:16	scott666	loll
03:26:17	midknight2k3	jk
03:26:21	midknight2k3	i know what it is
03:26:30	Plugh	you know what 53 is?
03:26:36	midknight2k3	dam it google
03:26:39	midknight2k3	hurry up
03:26:40	Plugh	haha
03:26:41	midknight2k3	uh
03:26:43	midknight2k3	what now?
03:27:08	Plugh	domain53/tcp# name-domain server
03:27:08	Plugh	domain53/udp
03:27:08	Plugh	knetd2053/tcp# Kerberos de-multiplexor
03:27:08	DBUG	Sent KICK Plugh to server
03:27:08	Plugh	rndc953/tcp# rndc control sockets (BIND 9)
03:27:09	Kick	(#rockbox Plugh :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se
03:27:10	midknight2k3	aha
03:27:13	midknight2k3	the HTTP
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03:27:16	midknight2k3	is a protocal
03:27:17	midknight2k3	hahaha
03:27:20	midknight2k3	i got it
03:27:20	scott666	www.google.com/search?q=first+internet+worm+protocol
03:27:22	midknight2k3	the http
03:27:40	*	midknight2k3 slaps Plugh around a bit with a large trout
03:27:50	midknight2k3	bow down
03:27:56	*	midknight2k3 slaps scott666 around a bit with a large trout
03:27:59	midknight2k3	you too
03:28:15	*	scott666 slaps midknight2k3 for using mIRC
03:28:24	midknight2k3	why?\
03:28:34	midknight2k3	i should use that thing uh bitchx right?
03:28:36	midknight2k3	or JIRC
03:28:54	Plugh	CTCP VERSION reply from Plugh: irssi v0.8.6.CVS - running on
03:28:54	Plugh	Linux i686
03:29:08	Plugh	with SILC plugin
03:29:14	midknight2k3	what is protocale 53?
03:29:22	Plugh	named
03:29:30	midknight2k3	i need to get something to drink but i am afraid to unlock the door because of the cat
03:29:40	midknight2k3	my leg is mangled
03:29:54	midknight2k3	it has a little scrate you know
03:30:00	midknight2k3	and there was about a drop of blood
03:30:08	midknight2k3	shiver me timbers
03:30:20	midknight2k3	maybe if i brong the laundry basket i can trap the beast
03:38:44	scott666	lol
03:38:51	midknight2k3	um
03:38:59	midknight2k3	that was like 5 minutes delayed
03:39:11	scott666	yeah
03:39:17	midknight2k3	at least with mIRC i can make it make a beep and flash the icon if you say something
03:39:17	scott666	tv is more important than you
03:39:23	midknight2k3	yeah
03:39:24	midknight2k3	SMASH IT
03:39:29	midknight2k3	throw it off the roof
03:39:32	midknight2k3	then it is fun
03:41:22	Plugh	I may get to destroy my Celeron 566 :)
03:41:32	midknight2k3	blah
03:41:35	midknight2k3	it has no tube
03:41:44	midknight2k3	try killing the monitor instead
03:41:52	midknight2k3	it makes a satisfying cruch
03:42:12	midknight2k3	as seen in http://uploadingmisc.tripod.com/defenastrashin.mpg
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04:02:29	midknight2k3	hello?
04:12:50	midknight2k3	whooo cannnn codeee?
04:19:38	scott666	i can code
04:19:50	midknight2k3	for rockbox though, no
04:20:09	scott666	yeah but thats not what you asked
04:20:35	midknight2k3	well
04:20:41	midknight2k3	who can codeee for roooookcobx?
04:20:44	midknight2k3	rockbox
04:21:07	scott666	rookcobx
04:21:29	midknight2k3	ROCKBOX
04:27:58	midknight2k3	n-e-1?
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05:07:32	midknight2k3	hello?
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05:42:25	midknight2k3	hello?
05:42:43	diddystar5	hi
05:43:03	midknight2k3	can diddystar5 code for rockbox?
05:43:50	diddystar5	midknight2k3: yes, but i can't do everything
05:44:16	midknight2k3	could you invert the video for the last twenty pixels of the peak meter to create a redzone?
05:45:03	diddystar5	im not good enough to do that ;) im sure someone like hardeep could do that
05:45:16	diddystar5	or Plugh
05:45:22	midknight2k3	hah plugh
05:45:25	midknight2k3	no way lol
05:45:36	midknight2k3	i dont recall why but i believe he cannot
05:45:41	midknight2k3	thanks anyhow
05:48:18	midknight2k3	i think the world doesn't want me to have the redzone lol
05:48:38	diddystar5	humm i nkow it can be done using lcd_invertrect() but thats not a good way to do it since people will have their peakmeter on differn't lines
05:49:14	diddystar5	does sound cool thing to do though :)
05:49:38	midknight2k3	Bagder and Zagor think it is pointless, Linus thinks it COULD possible be useful but is too busy to do it, AciD mentioned invertrect but cannot complete it, earHurts was going to help me do it but left, scott is not experienced with rockbox coding, Plugh just plain can't and psyco neither - oh and MT neither
05:49:50	midknight2k3	if you cannot tell, i am desperate lol
05:50:16	midknight2k3	yes it is going to be good for recording
05:50:29	midknight2k3	i guess showing the optimal level
05:50:35	AciD	hi midknight2k3
05:50:42	midknight2k3	hey acid
05:50:54	diddystar5	mey AciD
05:51:05	AciD	heya diddystar5
05:51:06	midknight2k3	yeah never thought of it but diddystar is right, invertrect won't work :(
05:51:23	AciD	why ?
05:51:29	midknight2k3	unless there was some extensive coding locating the peak meter and inverting only on that line
05:51:42	midknight2k3	becasue peak meter can be anywhere on the screen
05:51:59	PsycoXul	shouldn't be that extensive
05:52:06	midknight2k3	well psyco you do it then
05:52:09	midknight2k3	huh?
05:52:15	PsycoXul	heh
05:52:20	PsycoXul	i don't have an archos anymore
05:52:27	PsycoXul	:/
05:52:30	scott666	oh yeah!
05:52:31	midknight2k3	live up to your rockbox 8th place in the credits huh
05:52:32	scott666	lol
05:52:37	midknight2k3	oh suck
05:52:48	midknight2k3	can you code it and give it to me to try it and give you the results?
05:52:54	PsycoXul	heh
05:53:11	midknight2k3	I _AM_ DESPERATE!
05:53:12	scott666	just port rockbox to your zen
05:53:17	scott666	couldnt be that hard....
05:53:17	PsycoXul	all i was saying was that the code for locating the peak meter shouldn't be that extensive
05:53:18	scott666	lol
05:53:24	midknight2k3	psyco
05:53:29	PsycoXul	it's within the same program that's placing the peakmeeter afterall
05:53:29	midknight2k3	if you cannot tell, i cannot do that
05:53:34	midknight2k3	dfjalksdfkajsdfh
05:53:44	midknight2k3	i want to invert the video for the 20 pixels
05:53:58	midknight2k3	not some fanshy smashny thing to make the rectangle
05:54:06	midknight2k3	go smash a tv
05:54:10	AciD	midknight2k3, if i remember well, i allready wrote the general algorythm to do that
05:54:11	PsycoXul	well you have to draw that 20 pixels don't you?
05:54:20	AciD	u only need some basic functions to make it workin
05:54:24	PsycoXul	why can't you add support for inverting it there
05:54:27	AciD	and integration off course :)
05:54:30	midknight2k3	eat me
05:54:34	scott666	lol
05:54:48	midknight2k3	hmm acid
05:55:08	midknight2k3	it is a great idea dont get me wrong and it seems like it might be simpler in the long run but either way i cannot do it
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05:55:10	midknight2k3	so eat me
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05:55:16	PsycoXul	heh
05:55:20	PsycoXul	eat yourself
05:55:20	AciD	:)
05:55:24	midknight2k3	no way
05:55:38	scott666	he would but he cant reach ;)
05:55:42	PsycoXul	heh
05:55:45	midknight2k3	uh
05:55:48	midknight2k3	i would not!
05:55:50	scott666	his cousin walter broke his neck doing that ya know
05:55:54	PsycoXul	oh you know you would
05:56:04	midknight2k3	eat your Zen
05:56:09	midknight2k3	CAUSE ITS A ZEN HAHAHA
05:56:10	AciD	imho, inverting the screen 'after' the peak has been computed/draw is a loss of time
05:56:16	PsycoXul	i like my zen
05:56:18	midknight2k3	i dont care
05:56:19	diddystar5	you people r sick :)
05:56:20	midknight2k3	eat ir
05:56:23	AciD	it shoudl be integrate as PsycoXul said
05:56:25	PsycoXul	better sound quality, nice playlist management
05:56:45	PsycoXul	i've mostly been an ideas person around here anyway
05:56:45	*	midknight2k3 slaps PsycoXul around a bit with a large trout
05:56:51	midknight2k3	Don't hate rockbox you
05:56:51	PsycoXul	i can still contribute those :p
05:57:19	midknight2k3	took me too long to find that slap button
05:57:20	midknight2k3	lol
05:57:28	midknight2k3	now i need to make an eat me button
05:57:30	PsycoXul	this thing has a few nice features that make some things a lot easier
05:57:36	midknight2k3	like what psyco?
05:57:44	PsycoXul	the playlist management
05:57:47	midknight2k3	i can rip them off for feature requests and score points with the coders
05:57:58	midknight2k3	ok notepad ready
05:58:02	midknight2k3	playlist management
05:58:03	midknight2k3	got it
05:58:04	PsycoXul	you can add whole artists, albums, or just tracks
05:58:07	midknight2k3	anything else?
05:58:14	PsycoXul	and it even groups them in the resulting playlist
05:58:17	midknight2k3	yah that comes with the id3 viewer
05:58:21	midknight2k3	psyco
05:58:23	midknight2k3	ever used a riot?
05:58:30	diddystar5	don't think x-chat has a slap button :(
05:58:34	midknight2k3	well
05:58:37	PsycoXul	so you can select the tracks within the hierarchy of groups to play or delete
05:58:40	scott666	mIRC does
05:58:43	midknight2k3	yes
05:58:45	midknight2k3	i use that
05:58:49	midknight2k3	xASDJfkasjdl;kfjasld
05:58:54	midknight2k3	a rio riot does that but it is better
05:59:16	midknight2k3	and it auto does playlists like favorites, a mix of favos and non favos, songs not listened to etc
05:59:32	PsycoXul	it's got a menu when you click on genres/artists/albums/tracks to either open it, play it, or add to play it (and some other stuff)
05:59:39	midknight2k3	i know
05:59:44	midknight2k3	RIO RIOT RIPOFFS
05:59:49	PsycoXul	heh
05:59:58	PsycoXul	ok
05:59:59	midknight2k3	EAT THEM
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06:00:05	PsycoXul	well uh
06:00:09	PsycoXul	wtf
06:00:13	scott666	as useful as that sounds id never use it
06:00:13	midknight2k3	hahahaha
06:00:21	PsycoXul	shit should evolve
06:00:23	midknight2k3	hahahahaha
06:00:27	midknight2k3	<PsycoXul> ok
06:00:27	midknight2k3	<PsycoXul> well uh
06:00:27	midknight2k3	<PsycoXul> wtf
06:00:29	PsycoXul	why hold back innovation for competition
06:00:38	midknight2k3	ok
06:00:39	midknight2k3	well uh
06:00:40	midknight2k3	wtf
06:00:43	PsycoXul	heh :p
06:00:45	scott666	cause i dont use genres, and my music is already grouped into artst/album/track
06:00:54	PsycoXul	if it's good, why not use it
06:00:55	PsycoXul	well
06:00:57	midknight2k3	FAMOUS ADJFAKSD: <PsycoXul> hmm heh
06:01:00	PsycoXul	see that's beside the point
06:01:02	diddystar5	scott666: mine too
06:01:09	PsycoXul	i'm not talking about how it's grouped
06:01:14	PsycoXul	i'm talking about adding things to a playlist
06:01:16	midknight2k3	SHUTUP ALL
06:01:19	midknight2k3	let me tell you
06:01:20	scott666	whats the point of virtual grouping when its physically grouped?
06:01:24	midknight2k3	how this works
06:01:25	midknight2k3	please
06:01:27	midknight2k3	please
06:01:28	PsycoXul	you click on "add to play" and it autoadvances to the next
06:01:34	midknight2k3	please?
06:01:36	PsycoXul	and leaves the option "add to play" selected
06:01:41	scott666	we have dynamic playlists
06:01:57	PsycoXul	so you can sit there and click through a bunch at once to add whole directories or a bunch of tracks etc
06:02:07	midknight2k3	Zen and Riot and other things like iPod are all id3 reliant, they use an id3 database. archos uses a dir browser. UHM UHR DUH?
06:02:13	PsycoXul	i don't think the whole system is very good, i think rockbox can incorporate some of the same ideas and be better than it
06:02:23	midknight2k3	Psyco
06:02:24	PsycoXul	midknight2k3: you don't listen
06:02:27	midknight2k3	maybe an iptd=aaaa
06:02:27	PsycoXul	I'M TALKING ABOUT PLAYLISTS
06:02:30	midknight2k3	cut me off?
06:02:33	PsycoXul	forget about how it manages the files
06:02:35	midknight2k3	ME TOO
06:02:39	PsycoXul	id3 or directories doesn't fucking matter
06:02:41	midknight2k3	geegee
06:02:52	scott666	has there been a feature request to add an ipod wheel yet?
06:02:55	midknight2k3	it's fruitcupped, that zen
06:03:05	midknight2k3	no scott but tracktheripper will submit it soon
06:03:21	PsycoXul	heh
06:03:24	midknight2k3	would you rather have an fmr or a recorder than a zen?
06:03:31	PsycoXul	not an fmr
06:03:36	PsycoXul	recorder maybe
06:03:38	midknight2k3	rec then?
06:03:40	midknight2k3	maybe?
06:03:46	scott666	id like the 16mb of ram
06:03:49	PsycoXul	yeah i'm liking this zen
06:03:49	midknight2k3	DISLOYAL IDIOT, RIGHT HERE
06:03:59	PsycoXul	disloyal to what?
06:04:05	scott666	and the equalizer
06:04:36	PsycoXul	it's just more powerful hardware in a slightly smaller package
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06:04:52	PsycoXul	i'd love to get opensource firmware on it
06:05:24	scott666	how much space do you think itd take to add a DIMM slot?
06:05:24	scott666	lol
06:05:29	PsycoXul	heh
06:05:43	scott666	2mbs of ram?? try 512!
06:05:47	PsycoXul	:p
06:06:09	scott666	youd need a spinup once every few hours
06:06:15	midknight2k3	psyco
06:06:21	midknight2k3	how much ram in zen? 16mb?
06:06:25	PsycoXul	hey there ya go
06:06:31	PsycoXul	a hybrid player
06:06:37	PsycoXul	it has a big harddrive and a flash card of some kind
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06:06:47	midknight2k3	OH MY GOD
06:06:49	midknight2k3	great idea
06:06:50	PsycoXul	it buffers with the flash card
06:06:58	scott666	id give up some size for 20x play time
06:07:04	midknight2k3	it loads the stuff into the 128mb cf card for a buffer
06:07:20	midknight2k3	AWESOME AND IT IS PATENTED
06:07:25	midknight2k3	it's my idea
06:07:27	PsycoXul	you could even upgrade the "ram"
06:07:28	PsycoXul	haha
06:07:33	PsycoXul	we've got logs, buddy
06:07:35	PsycoXul	official logs.
06:07:38	scott666	hear about that 4gb CF card?
06:07:38	PsycoXul	:p
06:07:43	midknight2k3	shoot
06:07:46	midknight2k3	kill logbot
06:07:48	midknight2k3	get rid of logs
06:08:01	midknight2k3	but man
06:08:04	midknight2k3	that is a cool idea huh
06:08:07	scott666	(shhhhhh! he can hear you!!!)
06:08:10	PsycoXul	heh
06:08:12	*	scott666 hides
06:08:20	midknight2k3	like a cf slot and a 40gig hard drive, loads into the 256mb cf card for buffer
06:08:32	scott666	make it 60
06:08:33	midknight2k3	who?
06:08:39	midknight2k3	hsutshoufhadstupid
06:08:44	PsycoXul	yeah 60gb
06:08:59	PsycoXul	have it come with a 64mb card and use a standard one
06:09:07	PsycoXul	so people can upgrade it
06:09:21	PsycoXul	maybe have different ones
06:10:09	scott666	we need the decoder thats in that new rio
06:10:21	scott666	that plays mp3s and wmas and ogg and flac
06:10:30	PsycoXul	heh
06:10:50	scott666	then we let it record into any of those or wav
06:11:30	PsycoXul	this zen can do mp3, wma, and wav... all indications say it could do ogg, but that creative probably won't add it to their firmware
06:11:49	midknight2k3	hey psyco
06:11:49	scott666	ooh and a radio and have it have a collapsable antenna
06:11:53	midknight2k3	it does ogg from the get go
06:12:03	midknight2k3	ojhhhh
06:12:05	midknight2k3	the zen
06:12:06	midknight2k3	never mind
06:12:12	PsycoXul	heh
06:12:19	scott666	yeah, CREATIVE was the keyword
06:12:27	PsycoXul	eh
06:12:29	PsycoXul	er heh
06:12:39	PsycoXul	yeah that and that i started that line with 'this zen'
06:12:53	scott666	that too
06:14:18	midknight2k3	sorry
06:14:20	midknight2k3	sheesh
06:14:29	PsycoXul	hehe
06:14:36	scott666	how fast is CF?
06:14:53	midknight2k3	Xd is better
06:15:17	midknight2k3	smaller and faster - would be better for a mem-card buffer/hard drive palyer
06:16:25	PsycoXul	it might not be that great anyway
06:16:37	PsycoXul	along with having it buffer less often you're also having it buffer longer
06:16:49	scott666	fine, ill reword my question: would CF be > or < as fast as ram
06:16:50	midknight2k3	so?
06:16:57	midknight2k3	longer is better than quicker but more often
06:17:02	midknight2k3	less fast
06:17:02	PsycoXul	and then if you switch directories/playlists etc you've got all that memory outdated
06:17:08	midknight2k3	so?
06:17:37	PsycoXul	well it's gonna take like a couple minutes of the HD going to read 256mb off of it
06:17:46	midknight2k3	not really
06:17:54	midknight2k3	archos does 2mb in about 2seconds
06:18:01	midknight2k3	x128 means 256 seconds
06:18:02	midknight2k3	lol
06:18:10	midknight2k3	maybe its not a good idea
06:18:10	PsycoXul	heh
06:18:27	PsycoXul	heh see 4 minutes :p
06:18:31	midknight2k3	use a 32mb xd then
06:19:21	midknight2k3	it is a good idea
06:19:22	PsycoXul	but then you could probably also have the firmware deal with it intelligently
06:19:24	midknight2k3	i have to go now
06:19:28	midknight2k3	so do the redzone
06:19:30	scott666	ok smaller ram completely defeats the purpose
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06:19:51	PsycoXul	buffer the first tracks and then start spreading out the buffering over the course of several minutes
06:20:17	PsycoXul	so it'll act more like the small-rams do for a little while
06:20:29	PsycoXul	and then sleep for a long time
06:21:58	PsycoXul	then more ram extends the time over which it'll do it's spread-out buffering but also increases it's sleep time
06:22:05	scott666	wait...so basically theres no way to change the amount of time the HD spins up, only the space in between them?
06:22:11	scott666	that cant be right
06:22:16	PsycoXul	well
06:22:27	scott666	cause the 8mb mod gets better life
06:22:29	PsycoXul	your savings is in spinup/down time/energy
06:22:38	PsycoXul	it's that damn inertia
06:22:41	PsycoXul	the friction of acceleration
06:22:42	PsycoXul	heh
06:22:55	scott666	so wouldnt 1 long spinup be better?
06:23:08	PsycoXul	well yeah
06:23:14	PsycoXul	but
06:23:31	PsycoXul	getting bumped while it's reading isn't
06:23:32	PsycoXul	heh
06:23:49	PsycoXul	so you just spread out the reading a bit
06:23:59	PsycoXul	you're not spinning up and down as much as if you were only buffering a few MB
06:24:10	PsycoXul	should be a lot less
06:24:20	PsycoXul	but it's just not one contiguous vulnerable chunk
06:24:39	scott666	how would CF be better than ram?
06:24:53	scott666	dont know much about cf
06:25:03	PsycoXul	because you could sell the whole thing fairly cheap with a cheap card
06:25:10	PsycoXul	and not CF specifically, just flash-based memory
06:25:35	scott666	but would the performance be better?
06:25:47	PsycoXul	but people would be able to upgrade the buffer with standard cards to extend the distance between the drive-activity bursts
06:25:59	PsycoXul	because it would only buffer for a few minutes
06:26:06	PsycoXul	and then play for a couple hours
06:26:18	scott666	yeah and you could read CF cards from cameras and such
06:26:26	PsycoXul	yeah
06:26:46	PsycoXul	compactflash is just one kind of flash memory
06:26:53	PsycoXul	there's a bunch, and cf is kindof dated now
06:27:02	PsycoXul	most of the others have smaller packages
06:27:43	scott666	ive only see the sony memory sticks
06:28:03	scott666	*seen
06:28:11	PsycoXul	so like
06:28:15	PsycoXul	say it's got a 256mb flashcard
06:28:26	PsycoXul	and it takes 1 second to buffer 1MB
06:28:32	PsycoXul	and 1MB plays for about 1 minute
06:28:54	PsycoXul	then it'll take 4.2 minutes to buffer, which you could spread out over the first 20 minutes to lessen the chance of being bumped while reading
06:29:34	PsycoXul	but you've still got almost 4 hours before it'll have to do another 20 minute spread of reading
06:30:04	PsycoXul	that's a hell of a lot less spinups than if you were reading every few minutes
06:30:09	PsycoXul	the whole time
06:30:10	PsycoXul	heh
06:30:12	scott666	yeah
06:31:25	scott666	but how much power would it take to read the flash card?
06:31:41	scott666	any?
06:31:47	PsycoXul	well they're a lot lower power than an HD i know that heh
06:32:01	scott666	what about compared to ram though?
06:32:06	PsycoXul	dunno
06:32:37	MT	this is pie in the sky right?
06:32:56	MT	theres no way for us to ram [excuse the pun] a CF into an archo
06:33:01	PsycoXul	mmm sky pie
06:33:22	scott666	heh
06:33:29	PsycoXul	MT: not that i know of
06:33:30	scott666	were not talking about the archos
06:33:51	scott666	were talking about an imaginary/theoretical player
06:34:01	MT	aha
06:34:29	PsycoXul	it exists in the mind!
06:34:36	PsycoXul	i've infected you with a meme
06:34:41	PsycoXul	the concept is networked now.
06:34:49	PsycoXul	heh :p
06:34:56	scott666	noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
06:34:59	scott666	heh
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06:36:46	scott666	wow
06:36:52	scott666	i never even noticed he was there
06:37:00	PsycoXul	people are always excersizing and worrying about and self-and-other-conflicting between the two
06:37:04	PsycoXul	but what about your middle brain?
06:37:21	PsycoXul	er hey i left out something important in that first part :p
06:37:27	PsycoXul	people are always excersizing and worrying about and self-and-other-conflicting between the right brain and left brain
06:37:30	PsycoXul	:p
06:37:53	scott666	ummm
06:38:01	scott666	the middle is just a big crack
06:38:01	scott666	lol
06:38:08	PsycoXul	no it's not
06:38:21	PsycoXul	it's where your right brain and left brain connect
06:38:25	scott666	yeah
06:38:34	scott666	aka, big fucking crack
06:38:40	PsycoXul	it's not a crack
06:38:42	PsycoXul	it's a connection
06:38:50	PsycoXul	heh
06:39:07	scott666	it didnt say it was, i said its known as one
06:39:30	PsycoXul	but it's not known as one
06:39:34	PsycoXul	it's just popularly view as one
06:39:36	PsycoXul	which is the problem :p
06:40:34	PsycoXul	there's only 2 opposites that are ever seperate
06:40:41	PsycoXul	thats balance and ubalance
06:40:52	PsycoXul	all other opposites are just the 2 extremes of a single thing
06:41:12	PsycoXul	it's counter-productive to seperate them
06:41:25	PsycoXul	they can't balance that way
06:41:33	PsycoXul	if you have 2 stones and you drop them both
06:41:36	PsycoXul	they'll both just fall
06:41:47	PsycoXul	you have to set them on the same beam with a central pivot for them to balance
06:42:03	scott666	my middle brain hurts....
06:42:12	PsycoXul	no it doesn't
06:42:21	PsycoXul	the brain doesn't feel pain
06:42:22	PsycoXul	:p
06:42:27	PsycoXul	it's all in your head
06:42:35	scott666	THATS THE PROBLEM
06:42:41	PsycoXul	err actualy
06:42:43	PsycoXul	it's all in your mind
06:42:45	scott666	you insensitive clod!
06:42:45	PsycoXul	is more appropriate
06:42:46	PsycoXul	:p
06:42:51	PsycoXul	you know
06:42:52	scott666	heh
06:43:00	PsycoXul	my head hurts when i think about how my head hurts
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06:43:17	scott666	yeah i could see that
06:43:21	PsycoXul	but when i think about anything else it doesn't
06:43:22	PsycoXul	heh
06:43:29	PsycoXul	well almost anything
06:43:37	PsycoXul	i can't think about how my head doesn't hurt either
06:43:41	PsycoXul	cause thats still thinking about my head hurting
06:43:42	PsycoXul	heh
06:43:43	scott666	just thinking about thinking about why my head hurts makes my head hurt
06:43:51	PsycoXul	hehe
06:44:03	PsycoXul	yeah so just stop thinking your head hurts
06:44:04	PsycoXul	cause it doesn't :p
06:44:31	PsycoXul	think about benificial cooperation between opposites
06:44:58	PsycoXul	a union more powerful than either extreme
06:46:50	scott666	can we change the subject?
06:46:50	scott666	lol
06:46:53	PsycoXul	hehe
06:47:01	PsycoXul	you'd think
06:47:06	scott666	i read that enough times that it makes sense
06:47:12	PsycoXul	hehe
06:47:41	PsycoXul	we can talk about other subjects
06:47:44	PsycoXul	but this one will always be there
06:47:46	PsycoXul	:p
06:48:01	scott666	thats the beauty of repression
06:48:01	scott666	lol
06:48:13	PsycoXul	no i mean literally
06:48:19	PsycoXul	this one is in every subject
06:48:22	PsycoXul	heh
06:48:28	PsycoXul	balance is fundamental
06:49:00	PsycoXul	the foundations of existance has to do with balance
06:49:00	PsycoXul	hehe
06:49:10	PsycoXul	anything that exists has to do with it somehow
06:49:18	PsycoXul	directly
06:49:27	PsycoXul	it's like a singularity connected to everything
06:49:44	scott666	what is the opposite of pie
06:50:00	PsycoXul	anti-pie
06:50:05	PsycoXul	:p
06:50:11	scott666	mmmmmm....anti-pie
06:50:18	scott666	like anti-matter i suppose?
06:50:24	PsycoXul	well
06:50:35	PsycoXul	depends on how you look at it
06:50:39	PsycoXul	you could make an anti-matter pi
06:50:46	PsycoXul	and er pie
06:50:57	PsycoXul	and if you put the two pies together you'd be left with nothing
06:51:11	PsycoXul	but i dunno if that'd really be an anti-pie
06:51:15	PsycoXul	it'd be a pie
06:51:46	PsycoXul	just a pie that's anti-phase wave-conjugate with the other pie
06:51:47	PsycoXul	:p
06:52:28	PsycoXul	but what is pie anyway?
06:53:22	PsycoXul	heh
06:53:39	PsycoXul	well? how can you figure out what balance has to do with it if you don't know what it is
06:53:43	scott666	crust with fruit filling?
06:53:58	PsycoXul	so maybe an anti-pie would be fruit with a crust filling?
06:54:02	PsycoXul	but probably not
06:54:25	scott666	like a giant apple thats been hollowed out and filled with brbead dough?
06:54:30	scott666	*bread
06:54:41	PsycoXul	but pie itself is a balance
06:54:46	PsycoXul	on many levels
06:54:58	PsycoXul	there's a balance between sugars and starches and etc
06:55:19	PsycoXul	with the balance point centered around a set of criteria pleasing to the human senses
06:55:44	PsycoXul	it's a balance between temperatures and time intervals in it's processing to become a pie
06:55:57	PsycoXul	there's balances between conditions in the manufacture of the ingredients
06:56:10	PsycoXul	and in harvesting of their original sources
06:56:34	PsycoXul	not doing things to early or too late, not using too much or too little of that, not getting it too hot or leaving it too cold
06:56:53	scott666	what about frozen pies?
06:56:55	PsycoXul	not eating too much of it :p
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06:57:07	PsycoXul	whats it matter what kind of pie?
06:57:28	PsycoXul	there's still been lots of balances going into it's existance
06:57:59	PsycoXul	and on the same token lots of unbalances
06:58:09	PsycoXul	both intentionally designed to create that product
06:58:37	PsycoXul	i mean if it were totally balanced you wouldn't have a pie at all
06:59:00	PsycoXul	you'd have something neutral and inherently unidentifiable
06:59:03	PsycoXul	if anything at all
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07:00:00	PsycoXul	but you balance between that and something that's a stark contrastingly visible and present thing that unpleasantly overloads the senses
07:00:45	PsycoXul	to come up with something made up of a complex signature of balances and unbalances that matches patterns enjoyed by human consciousness and it's physical senses
07:01:34	scott666	so realaliy is defined through loss of balance?
07:01:52	PsycoXul	after all, pie wouldn't be very good if it were too sweet, or too bland... too liquid or too dry... etc
07:02:14	PsycoXul	scott666: pretty much i guess
07:02:30	PsycoXul	there is balance, but there's also unbalance
07:02:44	PsycoXul	and really thats sortof inherent
07:03:08	PsycoXul	you can't have balance without unbalance
07:03:32	PsycoXul	or vice versa
07:04:32	scott666	because if it were always balanced youd never know if it was unbalanced...because it wouldnt be?
07:04:46	PsycoXul	balance is the opposite of unbalance
07:05:00	PsycoXul	heh
07:05:31	PsycoXul	if you have anything
07:05:34	PsycoXul	then you have an unbalance
07:05:37	PsycoXul	but if you have nothing
07:05:40	PsycoXul	then you have a balance
07:05:46	PsycoXul	and if you have a balance, then you don't have an unbalance
07:06:09	scott666	but if your stuff is balanced with you?
07:06:21	PsycoXul	and so you've got nothing except it's balanced so you've got something so you have unbalance
07:06:42	PsycoXul	heh
07:07:10	PsycoXul	but if everything were just unbalanced
07:07:16	PsycoXul	it'd never be anything else
07:07:28	PsycoXul	it'd just be like a formless energy
07:07:38	PsycoXul	if everything was just balanced
07:07:40	PsycoXul	thre'd be nothing at all
07:08:05	PsycoXul	but you can't really have either because a natural state of balance is an inherent unbalance
07:08:12	PsycoXul	you can't balance between balance and unbalance :p
07:08:22	PsycoXul	so you get both
07:08:37	PsycoXul	an unbalanced balance or a balanced unbalance :p
07:09:16	PsycoXul	heh
07:09:21	PsycoXul	and well
07:09:38	PsycoXul	energy is an unbalance wanting to balance
07:09:40	PsycoXul	blah blah blah
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07:09:49	PsycoXul	nothing to define how energy expresses, you get pure chaos
07:09:59	PsycoXul	but pure chaos contains every pattern possible
07:10:22	PsycoXul	and so you get pieces of chaos that self-appear as order
07:10:30	PsycoXul	and so you get life, the universe, and everything :p
07:11:50	scott666	fuck it
07:11:51	scott666	42
07:11:54	PsycoXul	hehe
07:12:03	PsycoXul	42 is the right answer too
07:12:04	PsycoXul	:p
07:12:43	PsycoXul	it's a number, which means it's ordered, has form and definition
07:12:46	PsycoXul	but it's a random one :p
07:13:40	scott666	im impartial to 37 and a half
07:13:56	PsycoXul	hehe
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22:20:49	midknight2k3	comcast doesn't service the area
22:21:03	scott666	*** midknight2k3 (LaLaLaLaLa@AC9CC17B.ipt.aol.com) has joined channel #rockbox
22:21:07	midknight2k3	so i have to look at other stuff
22:21:09	midknight2k3	UH SCOTT
22:21:15	midknight2k3	i said sure
22:21:19	midknight2k3	it is called compuserve
22:21:26	midknight2k3	but it is aol imitation
22:21:36	midknight2k3	scott can you code for rockbox?
22:21:58	midknight2k3	tracktheripper's most famous request: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=44306&atid=439121&func=detail&aid=689196
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22:23:28	tracktheripper	This is my most famous request you penis
22:23:40	midknight2k3	hey dont be mean
22:23:56	scott666	im supprised they havnt banned him
22:24:37	tracktheripper	http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=706783&group_id=44306&atid=439121
22:25:13	midknight2k3	RWOC
22:25:18	midknight2k3	rejected without comment
22:26:23	midknight2k3	but tracktheripper is angry or upset or unhappy
22:27:17	tracktheripper	http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=689555&group_id=44306&atid=439121
22:27:38	sfdd	hey guys. i'm trying to get started on coding for rockbox. Is there any documention for what people have written. Maybe some docs to give me an overview of the various parts of the code?
22:28:07		Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving")
22:28:10	scott666	did you see the page about setting up the SDK?
22:28:13	midknight2k3	not much that i know of, sfdd
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22:28:37	midknight2k3	tracktheripper left and came back
22:29:14	tracktheripper	at least I didn't file "Make the LCD display full colour on its LCD"
22:29:32		Quit tracktheripper (Client Quit)
22:29:32	midknight2k3	sure....
22:29:34	midknight2k3	right...
22:29:40	scott666	lol
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22:29:52	midknight2k3	why track?
22:29:54	scott666	fuckin AOLers
22:29:56	scott666	lol
22:30:13	midknight2k3	what lol
22:30:17	*	midknight2k3 slaps scott666 around a bit with a large trout
22:30:20		Quit sfdd ()
22:30:51	*	scott666 steals midknight2k3's large trout and slaps hit around a bit with it
22:31:24	*	midknight2k3 oh yeah?
22:31:41	*	scott666 replies, "yeah!"
22:32:08	*	midknight2k3 slaps scott666 around a bit with a large trout
22:32:33	*	scott666 says, "I still have your trout."
22:33:03	*	midknight2k3 slaps scott666 around a bit with a different bigger trout and knocks him out
22:33:24		Quit ttr (Client Quit)
22:33:47	*	scott666 regains conciousness and steals midknight2k3's supply of trout, other fish, and furry woodland creatures
22:34:29	*	midknight2k3 sicks his cat on scott666
22:34:47	*	scott666 pets the cat
22:34:55		Join ttr [0] (jirc@ACBC86A1.ipt.aol.com)
22:34:57		Nick scott666 is now known as cat (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com)
22:35:00	midknight2k3	track?
22:35:01	*	cat purrs
22:35:03	midknight2k3	what is going on?
22:35:06		Nick cat is now known as scott666 (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com)
22:35:13	ttr	passs
22:35:40	*	midknight2k3 ;fadifjalksd
22:35:41	*	scott666 sends cat back to midknight2k3
22:36:08		Quit AciD (Operation timed out)
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22:40:41	midknight2k3	jamesbong
22:40:50	midknight2k3	can you code for rockbox?\
22:41:11	JamesBong	id did play around with it, yes
22:41:44	midknight2k3	bo you know how to invert the last twenty pixels of the peak meter?
22:42:09	JamesBong	no, I didn't look at the lcd code at all
22:42:28	midknight2k3	arrrg
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22:45:04	midknight2k3	acid
22:45:06	midknight2k3	never mind
22:53:38		Quit edx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:57:26	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
22:59:18	midknight2k3	bye all
22:59:19		Quit midknight2k3 ()
23:00
23:02:30	ttr	see this funny request
23:02:31	ttr	https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=786191&group_id=44306&atid=439121
23:09:08		Quit ttr ("Leaving")
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23:56:12		Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr)
23:56:15	BoD[]	hello
23:56:19	scott666	hey
23:56:22	JamesBong	hi

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