00:03:09 | gizz | dragon : ok, I ucl'ed latest rockbox, about to powercycle now |
00:03:20 | midknight2k3 | it may work! |
00:03:23 | midknight2k3 | gehehe |
00:03:51 | gizz | dohh |
00:04:01 | gizz | still the red led flashes |
00:04:05 | midknight2k3 | rats |
00:04:20 | [IDC]Dragon | wath exactly is the symptom? |
00:04:25 | [IDC]Dragon | what |
00:05:46 | gizz | well, |
00:06:18 | gizz | screens lightens (backlight) then it freezes, and red lid is blinking |
00:06:35 | [IDC]Dragon | nothing on the display? |
00:06:39 | gizz | no |
00:07:00 | [IDC]Dragon | but backlight is on all the time? |
00:07:06 | gizz | yes |
00:07:19 | gizz | exactly |
00:07:23 | | Quit T ("Leaving") |
00:07:40 | gizz | one point : |
00:07:46 | gizz | hdd never spins up |
00:07:50 | | Quit AciD` (Operation timed out) |
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00:08:17 | [IDC]Dragon | Interesting, for the recorders it's on by default. |
00:08:18 | gizz | dragon : it's funny, my archos doesn't make any noise |
00:08:31 | [IDC]Dragon | without any software interaction. |
00:08:34 | DarthWufei | .......... |
00:08:41 | gizz | so you gav me a recorder firmware heh ? :) |
00:08:45 | gizz | gave |
00:08:49 | DarthWufei | I've got a bunch of corrupt folders, dunno how to delete them |
00:08:53 | DarthWufei | Windows won't let me heh |
00:08:53 | [IDC]Dragon | no. |
00:08:59 | gizz | (joke) |
00:09:26 | midknight2k3 | lol |
00:09:27 | [IDC]Dragon | Bagder? |
00:09:41 | [IDC]Dragon | Do we have LED blinking code? |
00:09:47 | midknight2k3 | lol |
00:09:51 | Bagder | we do |
00:09:56 | Bagder | the original code |
00:09:57 | gizz | dragon : to my opinion, it's an ata_start missing or something ? |
00:09:58 | Bagder | first ever |
00:10:16 | gizz | or even an ata IO init missing |
00:10:19 | | Quit DarthWufei (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
00:10:20 | midknight2k3 | bagder should have said "we do indeed" |
00:11:13 | [IDC]Dragon | Bagder, where and under what conditions is that kicked off? |
00:11:21 | Bagder | [IDC]Dragon: the led blinks when we read from the disk |
00:11:47 | gizz | but there, it blinks regularly, like an error |
00:11:57 | [IDC]Dragon | I know, but is it also some early error indication? |
00:12:03 | Bagder | ah, no |
00:12:08 | Bagder | I don't think so |
00:12:22 | [IDC]Dragon | Like, if inits fail and the LCD is not yet alive? |
00:12:37 | Bagder | not to my knowledge |
00:12:41 | [IDC]Dragon | Would be a smart thing. |
00:13:29 | Bagder | yes |
00:13:31 | [IDC]Dragon | Ah, I found it. |
00:13:35 | midknight2k3 | i got an idea |
00:13:51 | midknight2k3 | can you turn the red led into an infrared beam thing so we can use remotes? |
00:13:55 | [IDC]Dragon | if app_main() returns, we do flash in main(). |
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00:14:23 | DarthWufei | grrrrrrrrr |
00:14:28 | DarthWufei | corrupt folders, can't delete heh |
00:14:32 | [IDC]Dragon | Should be 5 Hz, can you confirm that, gizz? |
00:14:41 | gizz | hmm |
00:14:48 | gizz | let me review the movie ;) |
00:15:06 | DarthWufei | ........ |
00:15:30 | gizz | well, I can see |
00:15:40 | * | DarthWufei sighs |
00:15:44 | DarthWufei | I open the folder |
00:15:45 | gizz | the red led being lightened every seconds |
00:15:54 | DarthWufei | and find a bunch of folders and files with gibberish titles |
00:16:32 | [IDC]Dragon | SO it's more like 1 Hz? |
00:16:48 | DarthWufei | ........... |
00:16:52 | * | DarthWufei sighs |
00:17:03 | gizz | dragon : indeed, yes |
00:17:16 | gizz | definitely not 5HZ |
00:17:19 | [IDC]Dragon | Hmm, then it must be something else. |
00:17:26 | DarthWufei | Can anyone even see what I'ms aying? |
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00:17:52 | DarthWufei | >_____< |
00:18:10 | * | DarthWufei just decided to wait until someone is willing to help |
00:18:14 | DarthWufei | decides* |
00:18:40 | * | DarthWufei sighs |
00:19:05 | [IDC]Dragon | A panic also flashes the LED, if I read the code correct. |
00:19:07 | gizz | darth : xp ? 98 ? |
00:19:12 | DarthWufei | XP |
00:19:18 | gizz | dragon : at what freq ? |
00:19:36 | gizz | darth : and you say the root of your archos is full of files heh ? |
00:19:45 | DarthWufei | No, one of the folders I made |
00:19:53 | DarthWufei | Full of gibberish folders and files X_X |
00:20:09 | [IDC]Dragon | can't tell, it's not timed "properly", instead there is a wait loop. |
00:20:35 | | Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
00:20:37 | gizz | dragon : all I can say, is the period seems to last one sec, |
00:20:57 | gizz | and the duty cycle seems to be 1/2 |
00:20:59 | [IDC]Dragon | I strongly guess there's missing inits. |
00:21:08 | DarthWufei | ? |
00:21:33 | [IDC]Dragon | The LCD is not initiialized, and the HD is not powered up, causing the rest to fail. |
00:21:37 | gizz | dragon : about you 5 hz code, do you guess the duty cycle there ? |
00:21:58 | [IDC]Dragon | Duty is exacly 50%. |
00:22:02 | Bagder | DarthWufei: you ran scandisk on it? |
00:22:13 | DarthWufei | I can do that? @___@ Ok |
00:22:17 | DarthWufei | NOt yet |
00:22:19 | gizz | dragon : well, then |
00:22:48 | Bagder | DarthWufei: try that, it sounds like a filesystem messed up |
00:22:53 | [IDC]Dragon | gizz: I suggest you flash an ucl of your liking now. |
00:22:53 | gizz | dragon : maybe your 5 Hz could be some 2Hz or so here, (if timer is not as accurate as wanted) |
00:22:54 | DarthWufei | okie |
00:23:08 | [IDC]Dragon | No quick fix for tonight. |
00:23:15 | DarthWufei | I'll try it, what's the command for scandisk? |
00:23:29 | [IDC]Dragon | I'd like to go to bed. |
00:23:31 | * | Bagder has no clue |
00:23:36 | gizz | dragon : I understand... |
00:23:45 | gizz | dragon : thank you anyway ! :) |
00:23:46 | Bagder | DarthWufei: try finding it some menu |
00:24:02 | [IDC]Dragon | This is the hard part now: finding missing inits. |
00:24:05 | gizz | for those interested, I've put some movies of the beastie online ;) |
00:24:45 | [IDC]Dragon | Almost impossible via remote debugging, without such a box. |
00:25:15 | [IDC]Dragon | Best thing is gdb. |
00:25:16 | gizz | dragon : do you think I should set the serial mod up ? |
00:25:31 | midknight2k3 | gizz could have toasted his player |
00:25:37 | midknight2k3 | must not care for the old thing that much |
00:25:50 | [IDC]Dragon | If you can, and have the skills to also work with it to find the bugs. |
00:26:16 | gizz | midknight : well, if you'd seen what my archos looks like, you wouldn't have said that ;) |
00:26:30 | gizz | dragon : I'll see |
00:26:35 | Bagder | gizz is a hero! |
00:26:54 | gizz | bagder : oops, not too quick ! |
00:26:57 | [IDC]Dragon | Linus has serial at his player, but it's not flashable :( |
00:27:00 | Bagder | hehe |
00:27:09 | gizz | dragon : I know :( |
00:27:19 | gizz | plus he's a Master at gdb'ing |
00:27:36 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, we have to postpone this. |
00:27:38 | gizz | .. he's a Master, shortly indeed |
00:27:45 | [IDC]Dragon | Goodnight! |
00:27:51 | gizz | dragon : ok, good night then |
00:27:58 | | Quit [IDC]Dragon () |
00:28:06 | DarthWufei | hmm |
00:28:17 | gizz | anybody interested by the archos-being-flashed movies online ? |
00:28:27 | gizz | (before I leave :)) |
00:29:39 | Bagder | yes! |
00:29:44 | gizz | ahh |
00:29:48 | gizz | lol |
00:29:56 | midknight2k3 | ME |
00:29:59 | midknight2k3 | i want to see them |
00:30:08 | midknight2k3 | bagder should put them on the rockbox website |
00:30:12 | gizz | I just hope you'll be able to view AVI as MJPEG |
00:30:17 | gizz | http://coolrabbitz.online.fr/rockbox/ |
00:30:29 | gizz | well, |
00:30:35 | midknight2k3 | thanks |
00:30:38 | gizz | it's not high quality theatre :) |
00:30:38 | midknight2k3 | i want to see |
00:30:42 | midknight2k3 | lol |
00:30:46 | midknight2k3 | neither is any online movie |
00:30:47 | gizz | just amateur garbage ;) |
00:30:57 | Bagder | which is the best one? ;-) |
00:31:03 | gizz | well |
00:31:07 | midknight2k3 | lol |
00:31:24 | T-rack | why can u no longer file requests as Anonymous? |
00:31:26 | gizz | the different movies where shoot at every step of flashing process : |
00:31:47 | gizz | first, the dual boot, then ucl, etc... |
00:31:56 | midknight2k3 | track-because of you |
00:31:57 | midknight2k3 | lol |
00:32:00 | gizz | (don't remember exactly what is what :)) |
00:32:03 | midknight2k3 | too many bogus ones as anonymous |
00:32:18 | T-rack | lol like wot |
00:32:23 | midknight2k3 | like "sdd" |
00:32:27 | midknight2k3 | or like "tea maker" |
00:32:32 | midknight2k3 | or like "multi function" |
00:32:38 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | too many people on this file ? |
00:33:03 | * | Bagder watches movies ;-) |
00:34:02 | Bagder | they're cool! |
00:34:04 | gizz | bagder : don't dream of them tonight ;-) |
00:34:09 | midknight2k3 | really? |
00:34:15 | gizz | can you see MJPEG moveis ? |
00:34:16 | Bagder | xine plays them fine |
00:34:20 | gizz | cool |
00:34:31 | gizz | my xine/mplayer crash randomly :( |
00:34:44 | Bagder | :-/ |
00:34:49 | DarthWufei | Hmm, why is it that Rockbox shuts down and Archos boots to the old firmware after a while on USB? |
00:35:16 | midknight2k3 | i know |
00:35:27 | midknight2k3 | rockbox runs out of battery and shuts down and archos jumps in and boots with itself |
00:35:58 | DarthWufei | heh |
00:36:10 | midknight2k3 | makes sense |
00:36:52 | DarthWufei | I wonder if that failed my scandisk... 8pokes it* |
00:37:32 | Bagder | when the disk runs, you can't feed it enough power |
00:37:38 | Bagder | it will eventually run out |
00:37:46 | Bagder | even if plugged in |
00:38:55 | T-rack | lol there should be a request "Turbocharge the harging operation" |
00:39:07 | midknight2k3 | y4eah |
00:39:12 | midknight2k3 | disable the regulator |
00:45:11 | * | gizz snorks - no rockbox yet in his dual boot player :'( |
00:45:52 | | Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) |
00:46:37 | DarthWufei | How many phases does scandisk have? -_-; |
00:47:15 | hardeep | hmmm... new, waning, waxing, full ? |
00:47:27 | gizz | hi hardeep |
00:47:34 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | thanx to midknight2k3, I've just submited my first patch :) |
00:47:37 | hardeep | hi gizz |
00:47:47 | Plugh | Dark: what this time? |
00:47:55 | gizz | hardeep : are a player or recorder owner ? |
00:47:56 | Plugh | Nobody wants to work on my patch :( |
00:48:03 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | euh.... Plugh : ? |
00:48:15 | hardeep | gizz: recorder |
00:48:30 | gizz | ok nevermind :) |
00:48:34 | Plugh | midknight tends to pester people into writing his patches for him |
00:48:42 | Plugh | I do too, but with less success |
00:48:50 | hardeep | ^-^_DarkAngel_^-: you should use a btter description then "to fast" |
00:48:55 | hardeep | er better |
00:49:15 | midknight2k3 | wati a sec |
00:49:24 | midknight2k3 | people talking about me and me not paying attention? |
00:49:44 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | done :) |
00:49:55 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | this is my first try :) |
00:49:56 | Bagder | hm |
00:50:03 | Bagder | hehe |
00:50:09 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | so please say if I'm doing something bad :) |
00:50:17 | Bagder | I changed the subject at the same time you did ;-) |
00:50:23 | midknight2k3 | bagder |
00:50:25 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | lol |
00:50:33 | midknight2k3 | i think darkangels name was better than yours lol |
00:50:48 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | yep but already in use :) |
00:50:57 | DarthWufei | so slow ~_~ |
00:51:02 | Bagder | hehe |
00:51:31 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | funny the "changes" table on cvs :) |
00:51:47 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | is the patch working ? |
00:51:55 | * | DarthWufei ponders if scandisk is doing anything |
00:52:01 | midknight2k3 | i am trying to get somethign else working before i do that |
00:52:19 | Plugh | scandisk runs as many times as it feels like |
00:52:24 | DarthWufei | lol |
00:52:24 | midknight2k3 | lol |
00:52:30 | midknight2k3 | ti does really |
00:52:36 | Plugh | if the disk is in use, it will keep running forever |
00:52:42 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | scandisk ? still exists ? not check disk (chkdsk) ? |
00:52:44 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | lol |
00:52:56 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | Plugh : yes... again and again :) |
00:53:07 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | until you have a power break :)))) lolol |
00:53:08 | Plugh | chkdsk is oldschool |
00:53:09 | * | DarthWufei isn't using the disk though -_- |
00:53:18 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | Plugh : and new school too :) |
00:53:33 | DarthWufei | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
00:53:59 | | Quit mecraw__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") |
00:54:02 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | lol :) |
00:54:34 | DarthWufei | Bah |
00:54:36 | * | Plugh loads up 53242 genes in his data inspector |
00:54:36 | DarthWufei | Forget it |
00:54:49 | DarthWufei | There really should be a faster to way to fix this |
00:55:11 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | DarthWufei : low disk format ? |
00:55:16 | DarthWufei | ? |
00:55:22 | Plugh | Darth: Hand me that unit. I'll tell you whether it works or not... ;) |
00:55:22 | DarthWufei | What does that do? |
00:56:06 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | well... put 0 on your drive... :) |
00:56:07 | Plugh | The side of the building says your case is cracked and your unit may have sustained physical damage to the internal parts |
00:56:36 | DarthWufei | What are you talking about? heh |
00:57:07 | Plugh | this group has this defenestration fetish |
00:57:18 | midknight2k3 | i do! |
00:57:42 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I'm not from this group yet (what am I doing here ?) |
00:57:48 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | lol |
00:57:50 | midknight2k3 | lol |
00:58:14 | DarthWufei | I'm really in no mood for kidding aroun |
00:58:16 | DarthWufei | around |
00:58:16 | DarthWufei | Heh |
00:58:34 | midknight2k3 | well |
00:58:40 | midknight2k3 | if you can laugh you can kid |
00:58:41 | midknight2k3 | :D |
00:58:44 | Plugh | it's what we do when we don't know the answer |
00:58:57 | DarthWufei | "Heh" is not really a laugh coming from me. @_@ |
00:59:28 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | actually i'm not really laughing... just a smile (to late for me...) |
00:59:31 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | ;) |
01:00 |
01:00:26 | DarthWufei | I'll run scandisk again |
01:00:27 | DarthWufei | Sheeeeesh |
01:00:53 | Plugh | fsck may be better |
01:01:01 | midknight2k3 | right |
01:01:04 | DarthWufei | What is fsck? |
01:01:05 | midknight2k3 | fsck |
01:01:19 | midknight2k3 | fuck with an s |
01:01:22 | DarthWufei | ........ |
01:01:26 | DarthWufei | Ok enough really |
01:01:27 | Plugh | it's the fscking best utility to fsk your fscking disk |
01:01:29 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | ...hmm |
01:01:33 | DarthWufei | Geez. |
01:01:34 | midknight2k3 | fsking fsk on! |
01:01:37 | DarthWufei | I've had no sleep. |
01:01:41 | DarthWufei | And want some help |
01:01:46 | DarthWufei | And I'm just not in the mood |
01:01:56 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | what's up DarthWufei ? |
01:01:56 | Plugh | UNIX file system check |
01:02:12 | Plugh | File System ChecK |
01:02:18 | Plugh | =fsck |
01:02:35 | DarthWufei | [17:15:37] <DarthWufei> I open the folder |
01:02:38 | DarthWufei | [17:15:47] <DarthWufei> and find a bunch of folders and files with gibberish titles |
01:02:49 | midknight2k3 | oh |
01:02:50 | midknight2k3 | right |
01:02:51 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:02:59 | gizz | darth : |
01:03:01 | Plugh | reformat |
01:03:02 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
01:03:17 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | ah... last time I had this... I reformat (in low level with the bios) and it works :) |
01:03:18 | gizz | what kind of gibberish data do you have exactly ? |
01:03:33 | DarthWufei | REFORMAT? Ugh |
01:03:46 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | strange characters ? like '?', '@', '¤', '£'.... |
01:03:51 | DarthWufei | Yes |
01:04:01 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | got an AntiVirus ? |
01:04:09 | DarthWufei | Yeah |
01:04:23 | gizz | darth : I've seen that well, yesterday |
01:04:38 | DarthWufei | Hm? |
01:04:48 | gizz | it was on a FAT32 partition |
01:04:52 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | format is (I think) the better way... |
01:05:08 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | gizz : same for me but a long time ago (fat16 maybe) |
01:05:13 | DarthWufei | Well I best move these files back onto the main PC.. |
01:05:14 | gizz | I had to format :-( |
01:05:52 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | on the net (google...) you can find data restore software... but all I can say is "Good Luck" |
01:05:56 | gizz | I believe this is a FAT corrupt problem => you have to format |
01:06:16 | DarthWufei | Can I change the HDD type afterwards? |
01:06:20 | DarthWufei | To NTFS or something? |
01:06:20 | gizz | darth : did you have so important data ?? or only MP3 files ? |
01:06:25 | DarthWufei | MP3 files |
01:06:36 | Plugh | no ntfs |
01:06:42 | gizz | darth : if you have your MP3 tree in sync somewhere, |
01:06:44 | Plugh | bad. evil. nasty. |
01:06:44 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | MP3 can be remade (you got the original, of course :) |
01:06:46 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | lol |
01:06:56 | gizz | then don't hesitate : format (full one, not quick one) |
01:07:05 | gizz | dark : hin hin |
01:07:26 | gizz | darth : don't turn it to NTFS. Just don't |
01:07:30 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | maybe with partition magic you could restore something.... maybe not :) |
01:07:31 | gizz | (it won't work) |
01:07:39 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | no ntfs for the archos :) |
01:07:39 | DarthWufei | Okay. |
01:07:43 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | just fat |
01:07:51 | gizz | dark: I guess not : if his FAT is broken |
01:07:53 | DarthWufei | Hey it works now |
01:07:59 | DarthWufei | Scandisk DID do something |
01:07:59 | DarthWufei | heh |
01:07:59 | gizz | aha ? |
01:08:06 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | well, try "fdisk /mbr" |
01:08:12 | gizz | do you see clear name again ? |
01:08:15 | gizz | names |
01:08:15 | DarthWufei | Yes |
01:08:16 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | maybe with a lot of luck :) |
01:08:24 | DarthWufei | The folder with the corrupt stuff is gone |
01:08:25 | DarthWufei | Heh |
01:08:34 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | waow... lucky... |
01:08:41 | gizz | dark : do you know exactly what fdisk mbr does ? |
01:08:44 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | copy all to another place then format... |
01:08:49 | gizz | good new then :) |
01:08:51 | DarthWufei | Ok |
01:09:10 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | gizz : replace the partition table with an old one... |
01:09:16 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | should work |
01:09:23 | | Quit T-rack ("Leaving") |
01:09:36 | gizz | darth : if you have extra external hdd space, I suggest you to keep a backup MP3 tree for next time ;) |
01:09:36 | DarthWufei | Okay, I'm moving everything back.. then I'll format... how long does formatting take? |
01:09:44 | Plugh | mbr only replaces the master boot record |
01:09:55 | Plugh | archos doesn't use an mbr, afaik |
01:10:04 | gizz | darth : hdd size ? |
01:10:11 | DarthWufei | 15GB. |
01:10:19 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | Plugh : my bad.... :( |
01:10:30 | DarthWufei | Less than 7GB available.. |
01:10:50 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | got some GB here if you want :)))) |
01:10:53 | gizz | darth : some time then, but you're lucky for tonight, so don't ask too much :-) |
01:10:54 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | lol |
01:11:15 | gizz | see what I mean ? |
01:11:24 | DarthWufei | ? |
01:11:36 | gizz | darth : don't forget to power your archos while formatting |
01:12:14 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | got to sleep a little before going to work... See Ya Rockbox Dream Team :) |
01:12:24 | midknight2k3 | bye |
01:12:28 | * | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- is leaving... thanx to all for help :) |
01:12:36 | DarthWufei | Thanks |
01:12:45 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | bye |
01:12:48 | DarthWufei | I don't get it though, heh. I bought this thing to free up space. |
01:13:13 | gizz | bye dark |
01:13:14 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | DarthWufei : defrag :) |
01:13:19 | | Quit ^-^_DarkAngel_^- ("sleeping time :)") |
01:13:19 | midknight2k3 | bye bye byte |
01:13:26 | DarthWufei | What |
01:13:32 | DarthWufei | You've got me doing 500 things at once. X____X |
01:13:57 | gizz | darth : forget the defrag one - 499 :) |
01:14:39 | DarthWufei | hmmm |
01:15:55 | * | DarthWufei sighs |
01:16:32 | gizz | bagder : are you there ? |
01:17:07 | Bagder | yeps |
01:18:09 | gizz | bagder : I presume the fact that no ucl are generated for the player, is due to flash not implemented for it yet ? |
01:19:13 | Bagder | you mean on the daily build page? |
01:19:38 | gizz | yes |
01:19:59 | DarthWufei | So after I format |
01:20:01 | DarthWufei | what do I do? |
01:20:03 | gizz | I see ucl for recorders, but not player |
01:20:04 | Bagder | yeah, I'm skipping that on purpose |
01:20:16 | gizz | darth : you sync your MP3 back ?? |
01:20:21 | Bagder | it'll be easy to add once it works |
01:20:25 | gizz | bagder : yes ? |
01:20:45 | gizz | bagder : well, it works, at least here :) |
01:21:01 | Bagder | right |
01:21:05 | Bagder | I saw the movie ;-) |
01:21:06 | gizz | (I'm speaking of ucl files, not rockbox-in-flash) |
01:21:28 | gizz | do you think I'm stuck to compile player-ucl myself ? |
01:22:13 | DarthWufei | gizz: -_- Ok |
01:22:17 | gizz | movie : I added the dual-boot proof :) |
01:22:34 | * | DarthWufei would likke to remind everyone he's using USB 1.1 still |
01:22:34 | DarthWufei | X_X |
01:22:43 | gizz | on the previously told website |
01:22:45 | Bagder | gizz: I'd rather wait a little with adding the .ucl on that page at least |
01:23:05 | gizz | bagder : you're damn right indeed, I'm too impatient |
01:23:27 | gizz | darth : the same for me grr - 15 GB to wait :- |
01:23:34 | DarthWufei | lol |
01:23:46 | gizz | oops 6 GB here :-p |
01:24:06 | DarthWufei | I wish I didn'thave to sync, that doesn't free up any space.. |
01:24:46 | Bagder | gizz: if you want to, I can set up a magic url for you |
01:24:52 | Bagder | with the latest ucl for the player |
01:25:32 | gizz | well, if you don't mind (I lost my sh-gcc setup :-() |
01:25:45 | gizz | I love magic :) |
01:25:48 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/player.ucl |
01:26:04 | gizz | thx |
01:26:08 | Bagder | that's the rockbox.ucl file from the daily build |
01:26:15 | Bagder | it'll get rebuilt every morning here |
01:26:20 | gizz | ok |
01:26:22 | gizz | cool |
01:26:25 | midknight2k3 | ok |
01:26:28 | midknight2k3 | so now |
01:26:35 | midknight2k3 | i will download that and flash it to my recorder |
01:26:39 | midknight2k3 | so ti will die |
01:26:40 | Bagder | hehe |
01:27:07 | midknight2k3 | once i flashed a recorder ucl to my fm recorder |
01:27:16 | midknight2k3 | i caught myself before turning it off |
01:27:17 | gizz | take no responsability here :-p |
01:27:44 | gizz | midnight=lucky guy |
01:29:16 | midknight2k3 | how so? |
01:29:27 | midknight2k3 | i would have had fallback |
01:29:32 | midknight2k3 | it would have been cool actually |
01:29:48 | midknight2k3 | to see it go "&ROCKBOX" and then "<blank" |
01:30:00 | midknight2k3 | and the hard drive would gnash it's heads at me |
01:30:07 | midknight2k3 | and i would click on again and again |
01:30:25 | midknight2k3 | like "VHIRRRRRRrrrrrrrrr..." |
01:30:38 | midknight2k3 | is that bad for it to do that sound thing? |
01:30:59 | midknight2k3 | the screech of death is it called? |
01:31:09 | | Join thairock [0] (~jirc@12.160.237.151) |
01:31:18 | thairock | howdy folk |
01:31:30 | midknight2k3 | hi |
01:31:30 | gizz | bagder : did you set a cron job for the magic url ? |
01:31:33 | midknight2k3 | thiarock rocks |
01:31:38 | gizz | hi thai |
01:31:40 | midknight2k3 | thairock sorry |
01:31:55 | thairock | hey midknight, now my jukebox boots up but "descrambles" before bringin up rockbox |
01:32:03 | midknight2k3 | thairock thinks ipods are crappy |
01:32:04 | thairock | hi gizz |
01:32:13 | midknight2k3 | you have an old daily build |
01:32:16 | thairock | ipods are for fanboys |
01:32:19 | midknight2k3 | reflash with new wone |
01:32:23 | midknight2k3 | right |
01:32:24 | Bagder | gizz: nope, its a symlink straight into the auto build dir |
01:32:28 | midknight2k3 | and they arent even all taht good |
01:32:31 | thairock | reflash again? |
01:32:45 | Bagder | gizz: and the autobuilds are cronjobs already |
01:33:01 | thairock | download the new daily build.. which file? |
01:33:22 | gizz | bagder : ah, and player-ucl were *already* cronjobbed ? :) |
01:33:41 | gizz | but not advertized on dailies page ? |
01:33:49 | Bagder | yes, it is always built by normal builds |
01:33:54 | Bagder | if uclpack is present |
01:34:02 | gizz | Bagder rulez |
01:34:13 | * | Bagder bows |
01:34:24 | gizz | oh, I remember such detail told on the ML :) |
01:35:15 | midknight2k3 | heh gizz |
01:35:16 | * | gizz believes rockbox is getting mightier day after day - Congrats |
01:35:23 | gizz | yes ? |
01:35:23 | midknight2k3 | i watched the 5929 movie |
01:35:33 | gizz | and.. |
01:35:38 | midknight2k3 | click, Checking! Check OK! |
01:35:41 | midknight2k3 | then it left |
01:35:46 | midknight2k3 | your hand retreated slowly |
01:35:46 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:36:31 | gizz | let me see again |
01:36:50 | midknight2k3 | your finger went back a little, then a little more, then all the way back |
01:36:53 | midknight2k3 | as you were surprised |
01:37:15 | gizz | heh - nobody laughs ok ?? :) |
01:37:23 | midknight2k3 | erm |
01:37:24 | midknight2k3 | HAHA |
01:37:27 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
01:37:30 | midknight2k3 | it was pretty funny |
01:37:32 | gizz | nevermind |
01:38:02 | gizz | did you see the last added ? |
01:38:10 | midknight2k3 | which one |
01:38:19 | gizz | 5935 - live proof of dual boot |
01:38:24 | midknight2k3 | i will |
01:38:28 | midknight2k3 | 10mb on 56k sucks |
01:38:43 | gizz | I'm gonna test the latest bagder ucl, just to see |
01:38:50 | gizz | oops |
01:39:01 | gizz | you're not adsl'ed ? |
01:39:12 | midknight2k3 | nah |
01:39:12 | gizz | are you ? |
01:39:16 | DarthWufei | Why exactly do I need to format? Everything is wokring. o_O |
01:39:17 | gizz | sniff for you |
01:39:18 | midknight2k3 | that was the other guy |
01:39:25 | midknight2k3 | well |
01:39:29 | midknight2k3 | sort of |
01:39:30 | | Quit _aLF ("Client exiting") |
01:39:32 | midknight2k3 | not really |
01:39:32 | midknight2k3 | soon |
01:39:48 | gizz | here in france it costs me 30EUR |
01:39:55 | gizz | ~$30 |
01:40:08 | cent20 | good night or good afternoon or good whatever everybody |
01:40:11 | | Part cent20 |
01:40:12 | gizz | for a 2400 Kbits/s |
01:40:14 | midknight2k3 | well |
01:40:19 | gizz | bye vince |
01:40:21 | midknight2k3 | comcast doesnt service the area |
01:40:27 | midknight2k3 | so my only option is like one dsl thing |
01:40:29 | gizz | oops |
01:40:44 | DarthWufei | gIZZ? |
01:40:50 | DarthWufei | Gizz* |
01:40:56 | gizz | daarth ? |
01:40:59 | midknight2k3 | Wind*ws |
01:41:02 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:41:05 | midknight2k3 | i will say it |
01:41:07 | midknight2k3 | Windows |
01:41:08 | DarthWufei | Any reason why I really need to format? @_@ |
01:41:11 | midknight2k3 | *GASP* |
01:41:18 | midknight2k3 | not at all drathwolfie |
01:41:20 | gizz | darth : oooh yes |
01:41:22 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
01:41:27 | midknight2k3 | DarthWufie |
01:41:28 | gizz | (sorry for the lag) |
01:41:34 | DarthWufei | @_@ |
01:41:37 | thairock | whoo hoo, rockbox rocks! |
01:42:02 | gizz | darth : believe me : |
01:42:09 | DarthWufei | Okie |
01:42:18 | gizz | scandisk lets you One chance, not two, |
01:42:24 | gizz | see what I mean ? |
01:42:24 | midknight2k3 | \ / |
01:42:27 | midknight2k3 | \0/ |
01:42:30 | midknight2k3 | see? |
01:42:30 | midknight2k3 | big arms |
01:42:46 | DarthWufei | hmmmmm |
01:42:53 | DarthWufei | Am I going to encounter this problem a lot? |
01:42:54 | gizz | midknight is in good shape tonight, gentlemen |
01:43:04 | gizz | darth : well not exactly, |
01:43:17 | gizz | but who said scandisk *totally* repaired your fat ?? |
01:43:22 | midknight2k3 | its afternoon |
01:43:26 | midknight2k3 | i have fat! |
01:43:35 | midknight2k3 | how can you repair fat? |
01:44:06 | gizz | midnight : sorry, it's late here in Old Europe :) |
01:44:27 | DarthWufei | hmm |
01:44:28 | DarthWufei | ok |
01:44:40 | DarthWufei | what's the format command for XP? @_@ |
01:44:42 | DarthWufei | Drive F.. |
01:44:50 | midknight2k3 | format f: |
01:44:55 | midknight2k3 | back it up first |
01:44:57 | gizz | darth : if you want to be safe, better format it (and yes* I know how long it is to resync MP3 trees <sigh>) |
01:45:03 | midknight2k3 | it might be format f:\ |
01:45:06 | DarthWufei | lol |
01:45:08 | DarthWufei | it's alright |
01:45:23 | Plugh | I have less free drive space than the data on my FMR |
01:45:23 | midknight2k3 | gizz |
01:45:28 | midknight2k3 | i watch videos in order |
01:45:39 | gizz | mid ? |
01:45:39 | midknight2k3 | right plugh@ |
01:45:42 | midknight2k3 | cool! |
01:46:03 | gizz | yes ? and ?? |
01:46:13 | midknight2k3 | I SAID I WATCH THE VIDEO IN ORDER! SHEESHERS! |
01:46:18 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
01:46:21 | midknight2k3 | it was a joke |
01:46:23 | midknight2k3 | a laughable joke |
01:46:32 | DarthWufei | And how long does formatting take? |
01:46:46 | midknight2k3 | maybe 10 minutes? |
01:46:50 | midknight2k3 | or a bit more |
01:46:55 | midknight2k3 | just see the percent |
01:46:59 | midknight2k3 | it shows the percent |
01:47:06 | midknight2k3 | SHEESH what is it fifty questions |
01:47:07 | DarthWufei | ok |
01:47:12 | DarthWufei | midknight2k3. |
01:47:22 | DarthWufei | I don't appreciate the attitude, heh |
01:47:44 | gizz | mid : you're picky tonight |
01:47:46 | thairock | starwars kid!! |
01:47:58 | gizz | and I don't understand all your jokes instantly - |
01:48:02 | DarthWufei | Well I'm rebooting, bbl in a few. |
01:48:14 | thairock | anyone in Montana here? |
01:48:15 | | Quit DarthWufei (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
01:48:24 | gizz | mid : would you understand french ones yourself ? |
01:48:45 | midknight2k3 | everyone hates me! |
01:48:48 | midknight2k3 | SOB |
01:48:59 | gizz | mid : plus you should know that capitalized sentences should be avoided |
01:49:04 | gizz | mid : no at all ! |
01:49:08 | gizz | not |
01:49:38 | midknight2k3 | okay |
01:49:41 | midknight2k3 | i forgive you |
01:49:41 | thairock | you're allright, mid |
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01:49:44 | midknight2k3 | you're lucky |
01:50:01 | thairock | now to connect my jukebox to the Mini |
01:50:04 | * | midknight2k3 has quit IRC ("You all hate me!!!") |
01:50:16 | | Join DarthWufei [0] (DarthWufei@ip68-13-240-27.ok.ok.cox.net) |
01:50:28 | midknight2k3 | I TRICKED YOU ALL! |
01:50:33 | midknight2k3 | I WIN! |
01:50:41 | midknight2k3 | simple usage of the /me command |
01:50:54 | gizz | mid : you joker :) |
01:51:22 | thairock | anyone use their archos in their car? |
01:51:45 | midknight2k3 | often |
01:51:47 | gizz | not me |
01:51:50 | Plugh | 16:51 -!- BoD[] [~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr] has quit ["m lblblelebp"] |
01:51:52 | midknight2k3 | thairock |
01:51:55 | Plugh | 16:52 * midknight2k3 has quit IRC ("You all hate me!!!") |
01:52:00 | Plugh | difference |
01:52:02 | midknight2k3 | er |
01:52:07 | midknight2k3 | * BoD[] has quit IRC ("m lblblelebp") |
01:52:09 | midknight2k3 | <thairock> now to connect my jukebox to the Mini |
01:52:09 | midknight2k3 | * midknight2k3 has quit IRC ("You all hate me!!!") |
01:52:09 | midknight2k3 | * DarthWufei has joined #rockbox |
01:52:12 | thairock | cool. i got mine specifically for the car. |
01:52:15 | midknight2k3 | no difference |
01:52:16 | DarthWufei | Hmm |
01:52:24 | Plugh | midknight2k3: must be your sucky client |
01:52:27 | midknight2k3 | hey |
01:52:32 | midknight2k3 | what? |
01:52:40 | midknight2k3 | YOUR SUCKY CRAP-LIENT is more like it |
01:52:44 | midknight2k3 | CRAP-LIENT |
01:53:02 | thairock | heh, i'm on a java client |
01:53:16 | midknight2k3 | hahaha! |
01:53:19 | DarthWufei | You know, you can format within Windows heh. |
01:53:25 | DarthWufei | Like you format a floppy. |
01:53:28 | midknight2k3 | THAT is a crap-lient |
01:53:32 | midknight2k3 | i know |
01:53:35 | midknight2k3 | format f is better |
01:53:38 | midknight2k3 | mine is format i |
01:53:46 | DarthWufei | How old are you? |
01:53:56 | midknight2k3 | because i have a floppy, two hard drives, two cd drives and a archos |
01:54:26 | thairock | now to get XM in the car |
01:54:34 | * | DarthWufei rubs his Archos |
01:54:35 | DarthWufei | poor thing |
01:54:39 | DarthWufei | Having to go through all this |
01:54:44 | midknight2k3 | right |
01:54:49 | midknight2k3 | i am watching movie 2 |
01:54:56 | midknight2k3 | from gizz collection |
01:54:58 | gizz | bagder : I tried you magic player.ucl : it failed, surely due to bootup IO init mess :( |
01:55:07 | thairock | is the Archos multimedia worth getting? |
01:55:07 | gizz | your |
01:55:24 | gizz | thai : no rockbox for it ! |
01:55:27 | DarthWufei | So explain to me, what's wrong with NTFS? |
01:55:32 | midknight2k3 | it sucks |
01:55:35 | midknight2k3 | thats why i use it |
01:55:35 | thairock | then i guess not |
01:55:36 | thairock | lol |
01:56:07 | gizz | darth : about archos : it *needs* fat32. that's all |
01:56:13 | DarthWufei | I see |
01:56:23 | DarthWufei | Well I guess since it is fat and all |
01:56:27 | DarthWufei | It would make sense |
01:56:33 | ze | well |
01:56:40 | ze | since you can flash rockbox now |
01:56:42 | DarthWufei | That was a joke. >_> |
01:56:43 | DarthWufei | <_< |
01:56:45 | DarthWufei | ? |
01:56:56 | ze | theoretically you could switch the filesystem on a flashed unit |
01:57:01 | DarthWufei | hmm |
01:57:03 | ze | if you implimented a driver for it |
01:57:08 | ze | i think |
01:57:21 | ze | i could be wrong, but it seems like you could heh |
01:57:21 | gizz | ze : you're right |
01:57:42 | midknight2k3 | ze? |
01:57:49 | ze | midknight2k3: hi |
01:57:55 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
01:57:56 | gizz | maybe some kind of ext3 fs would be more robust |
01:58:02 | midknight2k3 | sounds familiar... |
01:58:04 | ze | i dunno about ext3 |
01:58:16 | gizz | it's a journalized fs, |
01:58:16 | ze | i've had a bad experience with it personally |
01:58:25 | gizz | yes ? |
01:58:29 | ze | i trusted it to keep my data safe and it didn't |
01:58:29 | ze | heh |
01:58:33 | midknight2k3 | i have heard ze somewhere befire |
01:58:33 | gizz | I use it every day |
01:58:36 | ze | i lost a lot of data |
01:58:40 | ze | my whole /home directory |
01:58:41 | midknight2k3 | but where |
01:59:00 | ze | and i've still not been able to recover it |
01:59:07 | gizz | oh |
01:59:19 | gizz | what is an earlier ext3 version ? |
01:59:20 | midknight2k3 | who can it be? |
01:59:23 | midknight2k3 | who is ze? |
01:59:28 | midknight2k3 | or have i not met you before? |
01:59:29 | ze | midknight2k3: i'm psycoxul |
01:59:29 | gizz | mid : you fool :) |
01:59:40 | midknight2k3 | i knew it! |
01:59:50 | midknight2k3 | i knew someone was fooling me |
01:59:52 | midknight2k3 | why? |
01:59:57 | | Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA9FF4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
02:00 |
02:00:12 | midknight2k3 | try the command /nick. it helps |
02:00:28 | ze | this is my new nick |
02:00:35 | midknight2k3 | odd |
02:00:40 | ze | i stopped identifying with that old one a long time ago |
02:00:40 | midknight2k3 | is there a reason? |
02:00:46 | ze | but couldn't come up with a new one |
02:00:50 | midknight2k3 | i saw ze a few days ago |
02:00:56 | midknight2k3 | why didnt you keep the old one? |
02:00:59 | ze | then recently this one just kinda spontaneously grabbed me |
02:01:03 | | Quit thairock ("Leaving") |
02:01:26 | ze | i actualy changed my nick on 3 other irc networks some time ago |
02:01:30 | ze | but somebody had it on this one |
02:01:36 | ze | so i had to wait till they got offline so i could steal it hehe |
02:01:42 | midknight2k3 | hah |
02:01:50 | midknight2k3 | why wasnt psycoxul kept? |
02:01:57 | ze | what do you mean? |
02:02:03 | ze | kept how? |
02:02:10 | midknight2k3 | why dont you use that? |
02:02:11 | midknight2k3 | you don' |
02:02:15 | ze | like i said |
02:02:15 | midknight2k3 | t like it any more? |
02:02:20 | ze | i stopped identifying with it a long time ago |
02:02:25 | midknight2k3 | for which reason? |
02:02:34 | ze | it was the end of an evolution of nicks |
02:02:34 | midknight2k3 | people knew psycoxul was a tv smasher? |
02:02:43 | ze | and it could evolve no further |
02:02:48 | midknight2k3 | i miss it |
02:02:55 | ze | while i've evolved past it's meaning |
02:03:01 | midknight2k3 | sure |
02:03:02 | midknight2k3 | right |
02:03:04 | ze | it doesn't suit me anymore |
02:03:30 | midknight2k3 | i guess psycoxul is a good nick for someone who enjoys putting marbles through CRTs |
02:03:49 | | Nick gizz is now known as gizz_ (~nico@parmentier-1-82-67-24-138.fbx.proxad.net) |
02:03:55 | | Nick gizz_ is now known as gizz (~nico@parmentier-1-82-67-24-138.fbx.proxad.net) |
02:04:02 | | Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") |
02:04:06 | midknight2k3 | announcing your presence, gizz? |
02:04:12 | midknight2k3 | daniel.haxx.se eh? |
02:04:24 | midknight2k3 | i bet there's also a.. zagor.haxx.se |
02:04:48 | gizz | mid : nope, I wanted to check if my nick is still used :( |
02:04:51 | midknight2k3 | or not |
02:05:04 | midknight2k3 | i bet |
02:05:13 | gizz | yes |
02:05:24 | gizz | my english sucks definitely |
02:05:52 | midknight2k3 | nah |
02:05:56 | midknight2k3 | its very excellent |
02:06:26 | gizz | better than your french right ? :-p |
02:06:31 | gizz | heh |
02:06:47 | gizz | oops sorry |
02:07:11 | midknight2k3 | sob |
02:07:14 | midknight2k3 | yes |
02:07:16 | midknight2k3 | [/sob] |
02:07:24 | midknight2k3 | gizz |
02:07:25 | gizz | lol |
02:07:33 | midknight2k3 | would you have been angry if your player died? |
02:07:40 | gizz | hmm |
02:07:43 | gizz | good question |
02:07:50 | gizz | not really I guess |
02:07:55 | midknight2k3 | you seemed more than willing to kill it |
02:08:01 | midknight2k3 | an excuse to get the new ipod lol |
02:08:08 | gizz | well, when you see the movie, you can guess that nope ? |
02:08:13 | gizz | erk |
02:08:30 | midknight2k3 | if it died what would you have done? sold it on ebay as a 80gig player with all accessories? |
02:08:34 | gizz | and exchange my pcs for mac ? doh |
02:08:39 | midknight2k3 | for like 300bux |
02:08:42 | midknight2k3 | no |
02:08:45 | midknight2k3 | i dunno |
02:08:51 | midknight2k3 | an excuse to get the new karma then |
02:09:11 | gizz | indeed, I did that because I knew it couldn't fry |
02:09:23 | gizz | there's always fallbacks you know ? |
02:09:34 | midknight2k3 | not really |
02:09:42 | midknight2k3 | if you did firmware_flash.rock it would have died |
02:09:47 | gizz | ever heard about the serial mod ? |
02:09:47 | midknight2k3 | unless you did uart |
02:09:48 | DarthWufei | all formatted... |
02:09:56 | midknight2k3 | good |
02:09:59 | midknight2k3 | now get to work |
02:10:02 | midknight2k3 | well gizz |
02:10:06 | midknight2k3 | would it be worth it? |
02:10:13 | gizz | uart mod ? |
02:10:20 | gizz | why not |
02:10:27 | gizz | it's exciting |
02:10:28 | midknight2k3 | if flashing didnt work period on players, it wouldn't help for uart |
02:11:33 | gizz | another joke or simply real question ? |
02:11:55 | midknight2k3 | real question |
02:12:10 | midknight2k3 | uart wont work if you can't flash the player ever successfully |
02:12:20 | midknight2k3 | if players just cant be flashed then what? |
02:12:39 | gizz | well, I think they CAN be flashed |
02:13:09 | gizz | I believe the uart mod works EVEN if player died from flash |
02:13:19 | gizz | it's a.. ermm fallback :) |
02:13:42 | midknight2k3 | but gizz |
02:13:52 | midknight2k3 | all the uart will be able to do is let you reflash |
02:13:53 | gizz | yes |
02:14:06 | gizz | right |
02:14:08 | midknight2k3 | if it is impossible to reflash, like the chip can't be reprogrammed or wahtever, then what? |
02:14:10 | gizz | oh |
02:14:22 | gizz | oh |
02:14:25 | gizz | well |
02:14:28 | gizz | hmm |
02:14:35 | midknight2k3 | you should pixelate your movies so they download quicker |
02:14:43 | midknight2k3 | would you toss it? |
02:15:15 | gizz | ah true, your RTC internet access.. |
02:15:26 | midknight2k3 | RTC? |
02:15:30 | gizz | erm |
02:15:32 | gizz | modem |
02:15:41 | gizz | 56k already ? |
02:15:48 | midknight2k3 | RTC on archos means real time clock |
02:15:57 | midknight2k3 | or whatever |
02:16:02 | * | gizz is tired |
02:16:32 | midknight2k3 | i wish you could take a movie of the player booting and show the scrolling |
02:16:45 | midknight2k3 | does it scroll charcell by charcell? |
02:17:21 | gizz | yes |
02:17:31 | midknight2k3 | blah |
02:17:36 | gizz | don't you see scrolls on movies ? |
02:17:49 | midknight2k3 | yes |
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02:17:53 | DarthWufei | I'm out |
02:17:55 | midknight2k3 | but so far not many show scroll |
02:17:59 | midknight2k3 | i am watching the third one |
02:18:00 | DarthWufei | Thanks for the help guys, see ya later |
02:18:01 | gizz | oh |
02:18:03 | midknight2k3 | bye |
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02:18:09 | midknight2k3 | seeya |
02:18:12 | gizz | bye darth |
02:18:13 | midknight2k3 | well |
02:18:17 | midknight2k3 | downloading the third one |
02:18:20 | midknight2k3 | lol |
02:18:23 | midknight2k3 | 75% |
02:18:27 | gizz | heh |
02:18:33 | midknight2k3 | now 76% |
02:18:41 | gizz | you must have expensive inet bills don't you ? |
02:18:46 | midknight2k3 | .1MB at a time |
02:18:51 | midknight2k3 | er |
02:18:54 | midknight2k3 | shure? |
02:20:07 | gizz | sorry for RTC : it's a french acronym :-/ |
02:20:20 | midknight2k3 | meaning? |
02:20:37 | midknight2k3 | really .. tumorworthy crap? |
02:20:56 | gizz | meaning : low speed (ie : 56k) commuted telephone network (??) |
02:21:08 | gizz | réseau télephonique commuté |
02:21:11 | midknight2k3 | whatever |
02:21:14 | midknight2k3 | lol |
02:21:14 | gizz | sorry :) |
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02:21:33 | gizz | oops |
02:21:47 | midknight2k3 | reflash again |
02:21:59 | midknight2k3 | is it a JB 5000, 6000 or 20gig? |
02:22:09 | gizz | I've got the impression I make everybody go away from the channel.. |
02:22:13 | gizz | 6000 |
02:22:23 | midknight2k3 | that is a really... |
02:22:26 | midknight2k3 | it is very... |
02:22:33 | midknight2k3 | i believe that is.... |
02:22:37 | midknight2k3 | it... |
02:22:45 | gizz | .. |
02:22:46 | midknight2k3 | never mind |
02:22:56 | gizz | shitty shit ? |
02:23:09 | midknight2k3 | close enough\ |
02:23:13 | midknight2k3 | 99% of #3 |
02:23:21 | midknight2k3 | all done! yay |
02:23:25 | midknight2k3 | now to watch |
02:23:25 | gizz | cool |
02:23:45 | gizz | I hope you won't regret having d/l'd that.. :) |
02:24:02 | midknight2k3 | i do |
02:24:03 | midknight2k3 | lol |
02:24:07 | gizz | lol |
02:24:12 | midknight2k3 | it appeard to work |
02:24:15 | gizz | I warned you ;) |
02:24:16 | midknight2k3 | oh |
02:24:18 | midknight2k3 | i see |
02:24:27 | midknight2k3 | you loaded a flashed 5.05 to rolo to rockbox |
02:24:29 | midknight2k3 | right? |
02:24:37 | gizz | err |
02:24:48 | midknight2k3 | rolo used loosely |
02:24:55 | gizz | yes |
02:25:04 | midknight2k3 | so #4 shows the red led blinking? |
02:25:07 | gizz | pretty correct |
02:25:07 | midknight2k3 | the failed flash? |
02:25:21 | gizz | I'm not sure |
02:25:36 | midknight2k3 | make them in a 56k version so i can see them lol |
02:25:48 | gizz | hew |
02:26:03 | gizz | that's a long work |
02:26:13 | gizz | I'm lazy |
02:26:17 | midknight2k3 | aww |
02:26:27 | gizz | plus, I'm gonna have some sleep |
02:26:44 | gizz | see you later |
02:26:47 | midknight2k3 | bye |
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02:27:00 | midknight2k3 | bye then |
02:27:01 | midknight2k3 | zee |
02:27:06 | midknight2k3 | plugh sucks |
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09:56:06 | DarthWufei | weird |
09:56:18 | DarthWufei | when I play a m3u file it doesn't let me go to the next track |
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10:04:43 | DarthWufei | hi edx |
10:06:48 | DarthWufei | .......... |
10:09:07 | DarthWufei | Anyone alive that can help? |
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10:24:37 | LinusN | DarthWufei: no Next track function? |
10:25:33 | DarthWufei | Nope.. |
10:25:40 | DarthWufei | It just replays the current song |
10:25:52 | LinusN | what happens? nothing? |
10:26:03 | LinusN | ok, how does the playlist look like? |
10:26:08 | DarthWufei | It just starts the song that is playing over. X_X Rather than going to the next one. |
10:26:09 | DarthWufei | Hm? |
10:26:15 | LinusN | or do you have repeat-1 selected? |
10:26:24 | DarthWufei | Maybe I do? *checks* |
10:26:46 | DarthWufei | aha! |
10:26:50 | LinusN | :-) |
10:27:07 | DarthWufei | hey thanks! ^_^ |
10:27:25 | DarthWufei | IS there a possible way to browse a playlist? |
10:27:39 | LinusN | yes, using the plugin written by hardeep |
10:27:45 | LinusN | methinks |
10:27:47 | DarthWufei | oooh |
10:28:00 | LinusN | i don't know how, or if, it works |
10:29:40 | DarthWufei | thanks ^___^ |
10:29:44 | LinusN | ah, his plugin edits the Dynamic Playlist, not generic playlist files |
10:29:51 | DarthWufei | Ah |
10:32:43 | dwihno | Is that plugin a part of the distribution yet? |
10:32:46 | LinusN | no |
10:32:50 | LinusN | hi dwihno! |
10:32:55 | DarthWufei | ^^ |
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10:34:38 | DarthWufei | Is there a guide on how to install plugins? |
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10:34:58 | LinusN | copy the plugin to the HD. done! |
10:35:52 | DarthWufei | oh hah |
10:35:53 | LinusN | then select the .rock file and press Play |
10:36:21 | LinusN | there are a few exceptions, sometimes you need to copy it to .rockbox/rocks/ |
10:39:22 | DarthWufei | So I just download the latest .diff? o_O |
10:39:30 | LinusN | oh no. |
10:39:39 | LinusN | you have to compile it |
10:39:59 | dwihno | Hi Linus! :D |
10:39:59 | DarthWufei | Errr |
10:40:04 | DarthWufei | Now how is that done? -_-; |
10:40:14 | dwihno | Linus: I vote for YOU to include the plugin :D |
10:40:21 | LinusN | dwihno: :-) |
10:40:22 | dwihno | Linus: How has your summer been? |
10:40:31 | LinusN | nice and long |
10:40:32 | dwihno | NEJ till EMU! :-D |
10:40:37 | LinusN | :-) |
10:40:47 | dwihno | Nej till EMU, ja till Rockbox! |
10:44:07 | LinusN | hmm, looks like the playlist viewer isn't a plugin after all |
10:45:01 | dwihno | hm |
10:45:05 | dwihno | evilness |
10:48:36 | LinusN | not necessarily |
10:57:38 | dwihno | Hum? |
10:57:49 | dwihno | I like the concept of keeping everything as separate modules |
10:58:07 | dwihno | Such as playlist editors ;-) |
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11:03:18 | DarthWufei | Hey guys, if I wanted to leave my archos on during the night so I listen to music through the headphones, what charge settings should I have or not have? |
11:06:36 | dwihno | Erhm |
11:06:45 | dwihno | Deep discharge |
11:06:48 | dwihno | no tricke charge |
11:06:53 | dwihno | (that's what I would use) |
11:07:04 | DarthWufei | Ok, and leave it plugged in? |
11:14:55 | dwihno | Yes. |
11:19:05 | DarthWufei | Awesome, thanks a lot |
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11:19:24 | DW-Away | Good night |
11:20:42 | dwihno | Have a nice evening! :) |
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16:50:51 | DarthWufei | Hmmm, can someone help walk me through installing this dynamic viewer thing? |
16:51:11 | hardeep | DarthWufei: do you mean the dynamic playlist viewer? |
16:51:15 | DarthWufei | Yeah |
16:51:17 | DarthWufei | :D |
16:51:44 | hardeep | DarthWufei: you need to apply the patch into the source code and compile |
16:52:11 | hardeep | DarthWufei: or you can grab binaries from - http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/viewer/ |
16:52:23 | DarthWufei | hmm |
16:52:38 | DarthWufei | ahhh |
16:53:02 | dwihno | hardeep: merge it into the tree! :) |
16:53:05 | hardeep | actually, hold off on the binaries for a few... let me update to latest cvs |
16:53:15 | DarthWufei | okie |
16:53:20 | hardeep | dwihno: need to get an okay from the big 3 |
16:54:02 | DarthWufei | Sorry, I know nothing about this sort of thing so it's all so confusing. |
16:54:49 | hardeep | DarthWufei: if you're interested in compiling your own version, take a look at http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/firsttime.html |
16:55:48 | DarthWufei | @___@ |
16:56:31 | dwihno | hardeep: I am so cool, I approve ;D |
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16:57:43 | DarthWufei | Ah, so this playlist viewer might be included in a faily build soon? Or no? |
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16:58:25 | hardeep | dwihno: oh, in that case, i will commit immediately... ;-) |
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17:00:25 | hardeep | DarthWufei: that's up to the lead developers (zagor, bagder, linus) |
17:00:29 | DarthWufei | I see |
17:00:35 | hardeep | DarthWufei: okay, binaries have been updated |
17:01:34 | DarthWufei | yay |
17:02:08 | DarthWufei | Where do I install it? rocks? |
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17:03:31 | hardeep | DarthWufei: it's a complete firmware file, replace ajbrec.ajz with it |
17:04:10 | DarthWufei | ah |
17:04:55 | DarthWufei | thanks a lot ^^ |
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20:10:57 | Plugh | DarthWufei: you msg'd me at 1am. I was in bed. What's up? |
20:11:25 | DarthWufei | I was needing help on something, but I fixed it... nor do I even know what I needed help on |
20:11:52 | Plugh | heh. not a problem |
20:12:58 | DarthWufei | Thanks though. :) |
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20:15:14 | Plugh | for future reference, I'm ALWAYS logged on. But not always in front of the computer. Kinda like an answering machine, if you send me a message, go ahead and leave a detailed one. I'll get back to you when I get back online. |
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20:18:26 | DarthWufei | Plugh: Alright, that's great. I'll remember that. :) |
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20:38:36 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | hello :) |
20:39:01 | [IDC]Dragon | Hi! |
20:39:11 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | yo "flash man" :) |
20:39:12 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | lol |
20:39:23 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I got a question for you ! |
20:39:34 | [IDC]Dragon | waiting for my victim to come back... |
20:39:39 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | lol |
20:40:01 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | he won't... his archos is back to the reseller :) |
20:40:10 | [IDC]Dragon | haha |
20:40:13 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | lol |
20:40:47 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I'd like to make my own compile of rockbox (for testing... before developping) |
20:41:00 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | so here is the question : |
20:41:06 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | how to make the ucl file ! |
20:41:30 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I got this : |
20:41:33 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | uclpack: not found |
20:41:33 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | no uclpack command found, makes a fake UCL file |
20:41:48 | [IDC]Dragon | so you need uclpack in the path. |
20:42:09 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | in this one : "C:\cygwin\home\rockbox\tools" |
20:42:11 | [IDC]Dragon | get it from my flash distribution. |
20:42:21 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | flash_rec.zip :) |
20:42:22 | [IDC]Dragon | no, not there. |
20:42:29 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | oh... where ? |
20:42:33 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | in the build dir ? |
20:42:35 | [IDC]Dragon | that's not in the path |
20:42:53 | [IDC]Dragon | I suggest putting it where the sh compilers are. |
20:43:02 | [IDC]Dragon | That's what I did. |
20:43:17 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | ah... so C:\cygwin\rockbox\bin |
20:43:21 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | should work ? |
20:43:23 | [IDC]Dragon | yes. |
20:43:34 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | oki... brb :) |
20:43:43 | [IDC]Dragon | and delete the fake ucl before trying again. |
20:44:00 | [IDC]Dragon | else the make thinks it's already done. |
20:44:20 | [IDC]Dragon | or do "make clean" to purge all. |
20:45:50 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | grr... do I have to put some other things in this folder (descramble or something) ? |
20:46:28 | [IDC]Dragon | no, still not working? |
20:46:50 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | see private... I sent you the result of compile :( |
20:47:32 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm. |
20:47:44 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I try a "make clean" |
20:47:46 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | to be sure :) |
20:48:18 | [IDC]Dragon | in the build dir, can you please type "which uclpack"? |
20:48:38 | [IDC]Dragon | this tells you if and where it was found. |
20:49:03 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I got "command not found" |
20:50:30 | [IDC]Dragon | then you placed it in the wrong dir, or haven't picked the cygwin version. |
20:50:31 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I'm trying a make (purge was ok) |
20:50:45 | [IDC]Dragon | no, hopeless. |
20:51:02 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | well cygwin is ok (for windows and from rockbox's url) |
20:51:02 | [IDC]Dragon | if the command is not found by this, there's no point. |
20:51:08 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | oki... |
20:51:23 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | where should this "which" be ? |
20:51:38 | Plugh | wow. my screen looks spammy when you two talk to each other |
20:51:44 | [IDC]Dragon | did you pick uclpack from the cygwin dir of my zip? |
20:52:20 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | win32.... |
20:52:28 | [IDC]Dragon | wrong one. |
20:52:47 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I have to use cygwin... oki... I'll test (make is running...) |
20:52:51 | [IDC]Dragon | you're using cygwin to make, right? |
20:52:56 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | yep |
20:53:01 | [IDC]Dragon | OK. |
20:53:18 | [IDC]Dragon | place the right one next to "sh-elf-gcc.exe" at al. |
20:53:24 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I thought it was win32 like a win32 version for cygwin :) oups... |
20:53:29 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | oki :) |
20:55:20 | [IDC]Dragon | Does anybody here have a Player? |
20:56:00 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | gizz is afraid (nice english ?) |
20:56:09 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | scary looks better (sorry...) |
20:56:33 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | UCL file :) thanx [IDC]Dragon :) |
20:56:43 | [IDC]Dragon | no need to be afraid, I'd just like to rolo a special version on a player, no flashing. |
20:57:03 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I got a recorder, sorry :( |
20:57:51 | [IDC]Dragon | Players, anybody? |
20:58:04 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | Pizza anybody ? |
20:58:05 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | lol |
20:58:10 | [IDC]Dragon | last call for a Player |
20:58:58 | * | [IDC]Dragon goes passive, waiting for Gizz |
20:59:25 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | One day, my little (crazy, dumb, #@$$¤!?), have fun with my charger (not standard) and burned my charging module on the archos |
20:59:39 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | since then, I can't charge (but charger is detected) |
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21:00:08 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | so I'm changing my battery everyday (got 8 batt of 2200 wich works great) |
21:00:13 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I'd like to change the "runtime" debug info for people like me :) |
21:00:52 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | runtime should show the continuous running time of archos (play time... or ON time... don't know yet) |
21:01:12 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | I like to know if someone did something like this ? |
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21:06:21 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | is my english bad or you think it's stupid ?? (or you're bots? maybe you sleep ? eat? dead? dance? listen music?) |
21:10:08 | knobby | anyone know the rs232 settings for the debug header of the archos? |
21:12:57 | [IDC]Dragon | debug header? |
21:13:19 | knobby | yeah, you can use gdb through a debug header on the board |
21:13:26 | knobby | the site has the wiring diagram for it |
21:14:07 | [IDC]Dragon | gdb uses 115200 baud |
21:14:13 | knobby | thanks |
21:14:59 | [IDC]Dragon | for recorders, that is. |
21:15:07 | knobby | it worked |
21:30:42 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | where can I find gcc and perl to compile the uisimulator for win32 (cygwin) |
21:31:00 | knobby | gcc can be had from www.gnu.org |
21:31:24 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | is it compatible with cygwin ? |
21:31:26 | knobby | perl would be www.perl.com |
21:31:30 | knobby | should be |
21:31:41 | knobby | it checks for cygwin in the configure script |
21:31:42 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | well, I'll test :) thanx |
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21:35:01 | [IDC]Dragon | Are there any FM owners here? |
21:35:19 | Plugh | me |
21:35:35 | [IDC]Dragon | I have one here, borrowed. |
21:35:56 | [IDC]Dragon | it's battery is deeply discharge, so it won't come up any more. |
21:36:14 | [IDC]Dragon | discharged |
21:36:39 | [IDC]Dragon | I coudn't remove the battery, so I took it apart. |
21:36:41 | Plugh | mine was like that yesterday |
21:36:59 | [IDC]Dragon | the cells are a bit "fat" |
21:37:10 | [IDC]Dragon | is that normal? |
21:37:15 | Plugh | I just plugged mine into USB and it powered up and charged to 7% |
21:37:25 | Plugh | after a full day in the usb port |
21:37:39 | Plugh | I've never disassembled mine |
21:38:07 | [IDC]Dragon | better don't the mechanics is even worse than recorders. |
21:38:23 | Plugh | so I've seen |
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21:38:37 | Plugh | I was looking over the disassembly photos |
21:38:41 | [IDC]Dragon | Ah, here's somebody to ask. |
21:38:42 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: yeah, it is harder to take apart than the Recorder |
21:38:45 | Plugh | I could do it, but there's no need right now |
21:39:06 | [IDC]Dragon | with those solder joint to open before anything else. |
21:39:09 | Plugh | is Linus spying on us? |
21:39:15 | [IDC]Dragon | I guess. |
21:39:24 | [IDC]Dragon | peeking logs |
21:39:31 | LinusN | it almost feels like they designed it to be replaced rather than repaired |
21:39:50 | LinusN | Plugh: i am psychic |
21:39:53 | [IDC]Dragon | the cells of this one look like bursting |
21:40:00 | LinusN | are they greasy? |
21:40:12 | [IDC]Dragon | I was hoping I can charge it a bit externally |
21:40:19 | [IDC]Dragon | no "grease", no. |
21:40:58 | LinusN | no, you can't charge them extarnally |
21:41:00 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm afraid of Li-Ions, I think they explode in smoke and fire before spilling |
21:41:18 | [IDC]Dragon | Well, I'm an electrical engineer. |
21:41:30 | Plugh | from what I've read in the disassembly instructions, the batteries aren't very well made. They tend to delaminate |
21:41:46 | [IDC]Dragon | You can, but have to be very precise about the voltage. |
21:41:53 | LinusN | if the cells are completely flat, it may take a while until the charging starts |
21:42:12 | [IDC]Dragon | The unit is not even coming up. |
21:42:28 | LinusN | how long has it been connected to the charger? |
21:42:47 | [IDC]Dragon | Dunno, it's not mine. |
21:42:59 | LinusN | i mean, how long have you tried to charge it? |
21:43:10 | LinusN | and have you tried to connect the USB? |
21:43:21 | ^-^_DarkAngel_^- | well, gonna eat something... See you later :) |
21:43:26 | [IDC]Dragon | (telephone) |
21:43:27 | LinusN | cu |
21:44:21 | knobby | so lets say I had a bad flash of the firmware and wanted to flash again with the debug header, any docs on that around? :) |
21:45:38 | LinusN | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/uart_boot/ |
21:48:33 | knobby | any doc on what I'm looking at? I actually am working on a neo car jukebox, but the archos uses the same microcontroller, etc. |
21:51:24 | LinusN | knobby: i'm pretty sure that the neo jukebox doesn't have the same boot procedure |
21:51:33 | knobby | it is different |
21:51:55 | LinusN | the uart boot thing is an Archos feature |
21:52:10 | knobby | I have a debug header that I've connected to, but it's only a serial port on the uC, I don't want to fry my flash without a way to recover |
21:52:28 | knobby | I'm actually in the process of coding a boot loader |
21:54:12 | [IDC]Dragon | (back from telephone) |
21:55:24 | [IDC]Dragon | Linus, are you my man to try something on the player? |
21:55:48 | [IDC]Dragon | I'd like to experiment with LCD init. |
21:56:29 | [IDC]Dragon | It seems to be missing, so I added some. |
21:57:08 | [IDC]Dragon | A first check would be to test if that still runs rolo-ed. |
21:57:59 | [IDC]Dragon | Meaning, check if I've everything to the values it already has. |
21:58:24 | [IDC]Dragon | Linus? |
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22:03:07 | LinusN | i am unfortunately busy |
22:03:10 | LinusN | cu l8r |
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22:10:10 | pvh | Hallo! Any linux 'boxers about? |
22:12:55 | pvh | I'm in the process of migrating my Mission Critical Applications from 'dows to 'nux, and I'm having some problems with my Rockbox. |
22:21:42 | Plugh | what sort?\ |
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22:30:55 | | Nick [IDC]Dragon|food is now known as [IDC]Dragon (~idc-drago@pD9FF848D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
22:31:01 | Plugh | wb |
22:32:20 | [IDC]Dragon | what's "wb"? |
22:32:33 | Plugh | welcome back |
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22:33:10 | [IDC]Dragon | ah! |
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23:00:10 | pvh | Serious latency problems... |
23:00:12 | | Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
23:00:43 | pvh | I just installed Mandrake 9.1, and to get to the 'box, I mounted /dev/sda1 into a directory. |
23:01:51 | pvh | Now, browsing the directories is incredibly slow, and XMMS won't open any of the subdirectories. |
23:02:39 | T-rack | hello Zagor |
23:03:09 | pvh | Is anyone else using their rockbox under linux? |
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23:03:37 | Zagor | pvh: yes, i do |
23:03:48 | Zagor | are you browsing with some kind of gui? |
23:03:54 | pvh | no. |
23:04:37 | Zagor | usb2 or usb1? |
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23:05:34 | pvh | usb1. |
23:05:44 | pvh | AJR20 |
23:06:00 | Zagor | which uhci driver module are you using? |
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23:07:04 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor, you have a ("new") player? |
23:07:07 | pvh | The time from typing "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos" to a response is about twenty seconds. |
23:07:19 | pvh | I do, Dragon. |
23:07:26 | pvh | One of the unflashables. |
23:07:37 | [IDC]Dragon | doesn't matter for this one. |
23:08:12 | pvh | Zagor: Sorry, missed your question. I'm not sure −− it's a vanilla Mandrake installation. How can i check? |
23:08:13 | Zagor | dragon: umm, i think mine is new yes |
23:08:21 | Zagor | pvh: run lsmod |
23:08:21 | [IDC]Dragon | Can I dcc you a firmware build to test LCD init? |
23:08:25 | pvh | Zagor: It might be 'usb-storage'. |
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23:08:46 | Zagor | pvh: no, it's either 'uhci' or 'usb-uhci' |
23:09:10 | Zagor | dragon: sure. anything new? |
23:09:23 | pvh | Zagor: How do I test? |
23:09:30 | Zagor | pvh: run 'lsmod' |
23:09:33 | [IDC]Dragon | the LCD init was missing, hindering the flash start. |
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23:10:00 | [IDC]Dragon | Now I do one, but have no idea if it's correct. |
23:10:26 | pvh | Zagor: I'm using usb-uchi. |
23:10:29 | Zagor | dragon: ah, ok. i haven't actually checked if my player is flashable. the charge controller is burnt so i always need to charge it externally... :) |
23:10:36 | Zagor | pvh: ok, should be ok then |
23:10:41 | T-rack | hello Zagor |
23:10:49 | Zagor | T-rack: hi |
23:10:56 | pvh | Well, it sure ain't. :( |
23:10:59 | T-rack | thats better :) |
23:11:36 | Zagor | pvh: i'm afraid I don't know what to do. i haven't heard that problem before. |
23:11:48 | pvh | Would the default USB firmware cause potential problems? |
23:11:53 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor. just rolo this one and check if LCD is still there. |
23:12:11 | Zagor | dragon: ok, i'll need to charge the batteries a bit first |
23:12:35 | Zagor | pvh: you mean the archos firmware? that doesn't affect usb. |
23:12:47 | pvh | :( |
23:12:53 | [IDC]Dragon | How about fixing your charge controller? |
23:13:30 | pvh | Zagor: Maybe it's a problem with my mounting process. |
23:14:04 | Zagor | dragon: yeah, but i only use it for testing anyway |
23:14:22 | Zagor | pvh: well there's not many ways to mount wrong |
23:14:30 | pvh | Is there anything up on the internet I can read about this? |
23:14:47 | pvh | My google searches for 'linux archos' were not very promising. |
23:14:56 | Zagor | pvh: which archos model is this? |
23:16:38 | pvh | AJR20. |
23:16:50 | pvh | I think I may have resolved the problem. Standby a moment. |
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23:18:23 | pvh | Okay, the latency problems are gone, resolved by mounting the jukebox in '/mnt/removable/' instead of /mnt/archos... (Why?) |
23:18:33 | pvh | But XMMS still seems to think all my directories are files. |
23:18:55 | pvh | And ls -l seems to hang. |
23:19:06 | pvh | Oh, I take it back. It was just slow. |
23:20:07 | pvh | And now I see my mistake. |
23:21:20 | Zagor | what was it? |
23:21:55 | pvh | Mounting as root. |
23:22:14 | pvh | XMMS was running with my user's permissions, and the directories were -x by default. |
23:22:36 | pvh | Now I just need to figure out how to mount it more publicly. |
23:22:36 | Zagor | ok |
23:23:14 | pvh | chmodding seems excessive... |
23:24:49 | Zagor | /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos vfat noauto,user,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 |
23:24:58 | Zagor | put that in /etc/fstab |
23:25:04 | Zagor | with your id instead of 1000 |
23:26:01 | pvh | Thanks! |
23:35:34 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor, how's the battery? |
23:35:48 | Zagor | testing |
23:35:53 | [IDC]Dragon | Or would it be quicker to ask pvh? |
23:36:18 | Zagor | he's got ar recorder, don't you pvh? |
23:36:21 | pvh | Yep. |
23:36:31 | [IDC]Dragon | Ah , sorry. |
23:36:41 | pvh | No worries. I'm one of the unlucky unflashables. |
23:37:13 | [IDC]Dragon | pvh, how's your soldering? |
23:37:35 | pvh | Awful. |
23:37:40 | midknight2k3 | lol |
23:37:51 | [IDC]Dragon | even more unlucky. |
23:37:54 | pvh | Really, really terrible. I have very shaky hands, and little experience. |
23:37:58 | pvh | I _know_. |
23:39:19 | * | pvh is a software guy. |
23:39:33 | midknight2k3 | get an old motherboard and practice |
23:39:36 | [IDC]Dragon | I've got 2 chips left, hence my asking. |
23:39:42 | midknight2k3 | 2 chips? |
23:39:45 | midknight2k3 | 2 ROM chips? |
23:39:50 | [IDC]Dragon | SST39 |
23:39:58 | midknight2k3 | two flash chips? |
23:40:04 | [IDC]Dragon | yes. |
23:40:08 | midknight2k3 | how much do they cost? |
23:40:30 | [IDC]Dragon | money is not the issue, it was the hassle to get them. |
23:40:44 | midknight2k3 | just wondering |
23:40:48 | pvh | Yeah, I seem to remember hearing about your trials and tribulations on the group. |
23:40:52 | midknight2k3 | how did you get them and for how much? |
23:41:19 | [IDC]Dragon | by weeks of pestering people |
23:41:30 | midknight2k3 | what did you tell them? |
23:41:38 | [IDC]Dragon | I need samples |
23:41:44 | midknight2k3 | samples? |
23:41:44 | midknight2k3 | lol |
23:42:00 | midknight2k3 | did you tell them samples for modifying the archos jukebox recorders? |
23:42:06 | [IDC]Dragon | common practice in electronics development. |
23:42:20 | midknight2k3 | did you have to pay for them? |
23:42:37 | [IDC]Dragon | postage and packing, yes. |
23:42:39 | Zagor | dragon: lcd worked fine after rolo |
23:42:54 | midknight2k3 | how can i specify a cvsroot? |
23:42:56 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor, good, so thge init can't be too far off. |
23:43:02 | [IDC]Dragon | the init |
23:43:30 | pvh | midknight: with -d after CVS, or by exporting your 'CVSROOT' environment variable. |
23:43:56 | [IDC]Dragon | I could do the counter-check, init to power-on values and see if the display goes away. |
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23:44:58 | midknight2k3 | good bye. |
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23:45:03 | Zagor | dragon: ok |
23:45:29 | [IDC]Dragon | gimme a few minutes, keep charging ;-) |
23:46:20 | Zagor | hehe |
23:46:45 | pvh | Zagor, she's back to running incredibly sluggishly... |
23:46:47 | pvh | I don't understand it. |
23:47:16 | Zagor | me neither. your explanations previously didn't make much sense to me either. |
23:48:08 | pvh | Yes, I'm sorry about that. My experience with Linux is mostly with a web server I configured once and now comfortably ignore. |
23:49:44 | pvh | Okay, I've edited the fstab file to include the line you gave me, and then tried to "mount /etc/archos". |
23:49:57 | Zagor | then i guess you're not very keen on installing a new kernel...? :) |
23:50:05 | Zagor | mount /mnt/archos |
23:50:14 | pvh | Right, yes, just a typo there. |
23:51:02 | pvh | After a long pause, I seem to regain control, and be able to change directories. |
23:51:24 | pvh | It seems a bit like the archos is going to sleep and not getting woken up properly. |
23:52:44 | pvh | And now it's responding fine, and I'm browsing directories merrily, but trying to get an 'ls -l' to work seems to cause it to go back to slepe. |
23:52:45 | Zagor | dragon: works fine too |
23:52:54 | [IDC]Dragon | grr! |
23:53:12 | Zagor | dragon: umm, my bad. i have an old player... |
23:53:19 | [IDC]Dragon | so that code is not executed, or something else strange. |
23:53:29 | [IDC]Dragon | Ah! |
23:53:52 | [IDC]Dragon | Their LCD command set is different. |
23:53:55 | Zagor | yes |
23:54:07 | [IDC]Dragon | Do we have a datasheet for that? |
23:54:14 | Zagor | pvh: during "sleep", is everything frozen or just very slow? |
23:54:31 | pvh | The system doesn't freeze... I think the pauses may be related to tab-completion. |
23:54:52 | Zagor | dragon: not really. we're not sure exactly which controllers are used. |
23:55:21 | Zagor | pvh: but does the usb-access freeze? or can you still work with it, just more slowly? |
23:55:47 | pvh | If I open another console and try to poke about, it just hangs as well, until it finishes the first request. |
23:55:49 | [IDC]Dragon | For new players, the values in the code match the Solomon datasheet pretty well. |
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23:56:07 | pvh | Hmm. |
23:56:11 | pvh | This is peculiar. |
23:56:23 | [IDC]Dragon | For old players, I don't know where their command values come from. |
23:56:39 | pvh | While it's hanging in one console at 'ls -l' I'm browsing in another just fine... |
23:56:50 | pvh | I don't understand what the problem is. |
23:57:22 | pvh | It might just be _very_ slow data acess. |
23:57:26 | Zagor | dragon: if i recall correctly, we extracted those from the archos firmware |
23:57:51 | [IDC]Dragon | Did you extract inits as well? |
23:58:19 | [IDC]Dragon | Where's Stevie? |
23:58:20 | Zagor | pvh: i would recommend trying a standard kernel (from www.kernel.org). i know many redhat users also have strange usb problems with the redhat kernels. it could be the same with mandrake. |
23:58:52 | Zagor | dragon: i honestly don't remember. it was a long time ago an my memory rots fast :( |