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| 00:00:08 | LinusN | i think he means that the firmware loads at 0x9000000 and the start address is 0x9000200 |
| 00:00:29 | LinusN | which is exactly how it should work |
| 00:00:34 | LinusN | i matsl |
| 00:00:36 | LinusN | hi |
| 00:00:40 | uski | ok... |
| 00:00:41 | uski | hi matsl |
| 00:00:54 | matsl | hi |
| 00:01:15 | uski | LinusN: so it has no reason to fail. unbelievable. or my particular unit has a problem... |
| 00:01:53 | LinusN | nah, let's just say that his UART setup is bad |
| 00:02:04 | uski | why do you assume this ? |
| 00:02:14 | LinusN | like is he didn't know about the different oscillators |
| 00:02:21 | LinusN | s/is/if/ |
| 00:02:34 | uski | it seems he took care of this, wait i check his code |
| 00:02:47 | LinusN | u *have* the source? |
| 00:03:33 | uski | yes, but only 50% |
| 00:03:39 | LinusN | oh |
| 00:03:41 | uski | i have the source of the PC part of the program |
| 00:03:47 | uski | but i don't ahve the sources of his bootloader |
| 00:04:00 | uski | / this will read as 0x08 when viewed with 2120 baud like the recorder does |
| 00:04:01 | uski | / this will read as 0x19 when viewed with 2300 baud like the player does |
| 00:04:11 | uski | so, it seems he took care of the oscillators |
| 00:04:32 | LinusN | ok |
| 00:04:46 | uski | oh ! |
| 00:04:49 | LinusN | 2300 baud, that's awfully slow |
| 00:04:52 | uski | also i made a dump of the flashrom |
| 00:05:05 | uski | and i can read "ARCH" on the first 4 bytes |
| 00:05:14 | LinusN | ok, so the serial comm works |
| 00:05:14 | uski | ARCH => ARCHos so i guess the baudrate is correct |
| 00:05:17 | uski | yea |
| 00:05:53 | uski | and his code is full of sanity checks, i think it would say "error" if the baudrate was incorrect |
| 00:06:00 | LinusN | sure |
| 00:07:24 | uski | i regret i dont know how to make a fuirmware for the archos from scratch |
| 00:07:30 | uski | i would make a minimal firmware |
| 00:07:33 | uski | that only do some tests |
| 00:07:42 | uski | like blinking the led ;), lcd init test, and so on |
| 00:08:16 | uski | ooo i have an idea, i can try telling the bootloader to load itself |
| 00:08:35 | LinusN | that won't work |
| 00:08:47 | LinusN | the bootloader is loaded at a different address |
| 00:08:57 | uski | oh right |
| 00:09:23 | uski | hmmm ! |
| 00:09:26 | uski | perhaps my RAM has a problem ! |
| 00:09:32 | LinusN | nah |
| 00:09:39 | uski | so htat only the address of the bootloader are working, higher/lower address failling |
| 00:09:50 | uski | why ? perhaps some address lines are shorted |
| 00:09:53 | LinusN | i doubt it |
| 00:10:09 | uski | yea but... |
| 00:10:24 | LinusN | but still, how do we know that the DRAM controller is activated...? |
| 00:10:37 | uski | because his bootloader is loaded |
| 00:10:45 | LinusN | is it in DRAM? |
| 00:10:50 | uski | the ROM firmware loads the bootloader to the ram |
| 00:10:53 | uski | yes |
| 00:10:53 | LinusN | or in the internal RAM? |
| 00:11:06 | uski | HMMMM !!! |
| 00:11:11 | uski | don't know :) |
| 00:11:35 | uski | i forgot this internal ram |
| 00:13:20 | uski | i have to ask idcdragon about it, he his the only one (i think) who knows how the uart boot works |
| 00:13:56 | uski | i must find a way to check if the dram works |
| 00:14:16 | uski | i'll hook up my oscilloscope into some data pin to see if it changes while im uploading the firmware |
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| 00:21:39 | uski | ok; there IS a data exchange between the CPU and the DRAM |
| 00:22:02 | uski | i can try to use gdb against the box... |
| 00:24:34 | LinusN | you could |
| 00:24:49 | uski | i am compiling gdb |
| 00:25:04 | uski | can you tell me how to use gdb with the archos ? i never did a thing like that |
| 00:27:17 | LinusN | you need to compile the gdb stub and download it |
| 00:27:46 | uski | i built a "debug" version, is it ok ? |
| 00:27:54 | LinusN | so it won't help you that much |
| 00:28:13 | LinusN | the gdb stub is a separate module |
| 00:28:30 | uski | oh ok... |
| 00:28:38 | uski | it can't be compiled with the firmware you mean ? |
| 00:28:58 | LinusN | well, that isn't how we did it, anyway |
| 00:29:15 | uski | ok [:(] |
| 00:29:17 | LinusN | we have the stub in a a separate .mod |
| 00:29:45 | uski | hmm ok. but what does the "debug" build does ? |
| 00:30:26 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 00:30:26 | * | michaelol has a feature request |
| 00:30:36 | michaelol | thought of it the other day |
| 00:30:39 | michaelol | a tuner |
| 00:30:51 | michaelol | just something simple |
| 00:31:08 | michaelol | that will display something if a = 440 or somethign |
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| 00:32:41 | LinusN | uski: the stub loads at 0x9000000 |
| 00:33:04 | LinusN | the debug build loads at 0x9010000 to get out of the way for the stub |
| 00:33:56 | LinusN | the debug build has a few other differences, like debug printf to the gdb console |
| 00:34:17 | LinusN | michaelol: tuner? |
| 00:34:31 | LinusN | you mean for tuning an instrument? |
| 00:35:22 | LinusN | would be neat if we could program the mas |
| 00:35:43 | LinusN | as it is now, we can't do it, at least not in realtime |
| 00:36:11 | uski | LinusN: i saw a discussion about it on the mailling list, people saying "oh we must ifnd somebody and we will be able to do it" |
| 00:36:13 | uski | this is wrong |
| 00:36:23 | uski | i think the MAs datasheet can be obtained only when signing a NDA |
| 00:36:30 | uski | and when you sign a NDA, you don't give the infos away |
| 00:36:34 | LinusN | uski: true |
| 00:36:52 | uski | so we can be helped only by micronas |
| 00:36:54 | LinusN | but we can still sign an NDA and not share the source for the MAS code |
| 00:37:01 | uski | right |
| 00:37:07 | uski | anyway i hate these NDA policies |
| 00:37:16 | LinusN | of course we should talk to Micronas |
| 00:37:19 | uski | more and more components have a NDa protected datasheet |
| 00:37:26 | LinusN | archos can't help us here |
| 00:37:30 | uski | yes |
| 00:37:47 | LinusN | i have contacted Micronas BTW |
| 00:38:02 | uski | what did they say ? |
| 00:38:11 | LinusN | no reply yet |
| 00:38:14 | uski | lol ok |
| 00:38:24 | uski | i don't understaznd why they love NDA |
| 00:38:42 | uski | okay for sensitive componentslike dallas high security microcontrollers |
| 00:38:51 | uski | but for a mp3 decoder ? what's secret ? |
| 00:39:00 | LinusN | so many people are afraid that their "intellectual property" is in jeopardy if they share information |
| 00:39:17 | uski | it is alarming |
| 00:39:27 | uski | now you cannot get any datasheet of any advanced component |
| 00:39:31 | LinusN | i think that they think that their DSP architecture is somewhat special |
| 00:39:34 | uski | and it is getting worse days agter day |
| 00:39:43 | uski | yea... |
| 00:41:59 | uski | LinusN: can you explain my why i still have the backlight timeout on keypress with my panicf version ?? |
| 00:42:25 | LinusN | yes |
| 00:42:40 | uski | hmmm i'd like to hear the explanation then :) |
| 00:42:44 | LinusN | the players have a hardware backlight control |
| 00:42:49 | uski | damn ok ! lol |
| 00:42:56 | LinusN | some of them, at least |
| 00:43:29 | uski | i'll make a test, i will load a garbage file as firmware |
| 00:43:36 | uski | and i'll see if i still have backlight handling |
| 00:44:17 | michaelol | yea a tuner for insterments |
| 00:44:24 | * | michaelol plays the trumpet |
| 00:44:39 | uski | michaelol: it will be very hard to do i think, it requires to do a frequency analysis |
| 00:44:41 | michaelol | just got 2 really good mics for 9 bucks each on clearence |
| 00:44:45 | michaelol | ahhh |
| 00:45:00 | uski | trumpet sound is not a single square wave of X hertz |
| 00:45:32 | uski | LinusN: .......... if i load a garbage firmware (= the bootloader, so it does not work), the backlight is always on |
| 00:45:45 | michaelol | but if you programed like 435-450 hz all i mean is just like a short thing that would say when its in that |
| 00:45:46 | uski | so: no backlight handling |
| 00:45:49 | LinusN | michaelol: but you could generate perfect waveforms in a wave editor, and let the jukebox play them for reference |
| 00:45:58 | michaelol | yea thats true |
| 00:46:21 | michaelol | would have to hook it up to speakers then tho |
| 00:46:23 | michaelol | might do that |
| 00:46:30 | michaelol | or the headphones |
| 00:46:44 | uski | LinusN: are you sure that panicf works ? ;) |
| 00:46:48 | LinusN | no |
| 00:46:49 | * | michaelol submitts a feature request |
| 00:46:53 | michaelol | just so its up there |
| 00:47:26 | LinusN | uski: you mean that the garbage mod disabled the backlight? |
| 00:47:56 | uski | well, by default the backlight is on (when i boot the archos without any firmware it lights up) |
| 00:48:15 | uski | if i load a correct rockbox.bin, the backlight stops and i can light it by pressing a key |
| 00:48:23 | uski | if i load an incorrect firmware, it stays up |
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| 00:50:07 | uski | will the led func work before ANY initialization ? |
| 00:50:21 | LinusN | i wonder |
| 00:50:30 | uski | ok i try... |
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| 01:03:28 | uski | LinusN: ok, time to sleep now... i'll try to investigate with idcdragon. when i'll manage to control the red led, i will see for the lcd :) |
| 01:03:39 | uski | thanks for your help |
| 01:03:50 | LinusN | you're welcome |
| 01:04:25 | diddystar5 | hey linusn |
| 01:04:49 | LinusN | yo |
| 01:04:57 | diddystar5 | i never have time to talk in rockbox anymore because of school :( |
| 01:05:05 | LinusN | poor you |
| 01:07:42 | diddystar5 | rockbox could use a patch cleaning day ;) |
| 01:07:55 | * | diddystar5 glances at LinusN |
| 01:08:33 | LinusN | we have talked about having one soonish |
| 01:08:38 | LinusN | a Rockbox DevCon |
| 01:08:57 | diddystar5 | cool :) |
| 01:09:22 | LinusN | we feel bad about not having enough time for rockbox |
| 01:09:43 | diddystar5 | im getting tired of adding the 9 patches i do everytime i make a build! |
| 01:09:53 | LinusN | still, Payed Work(tm) has priority... :-( |
| 01:12:18 | uski | [don't cry, i come to help the rockbox effort, as much as i can. let me some time to understand the code and i'll help you all] |
| 01:12:21 | uski | ;) |
| 01:12:59 | LinusN | good |
| 01:13:23 | uski | i like rockbox because it is electronic+programming |
| 01:14:01 | diddystar5 | i was thinking about makeing a "release canidate" to show how i would see rockbox 2.1 being like |
| 01:15:28 | LinusN | uski: exactly |
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| 01:15:40 | LinusN | diddystar5: what patches do you apply? |
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| 01:19:08 | uski | hmmm im thinking of making a serial keypad. is it a good idea ? so people will be able to play more advanced game, and why not making an alphabetic keyboard to edit textfiles/take notes... is it a good idea ? |
| 01:19:14 | diddystar5 | LinusN: bookmarks, id3 tag editor, runtime bug fixes, wormlet settings, sleeptimer fixes, dynamic playlist viewer, Bugfix [740483] Negative time on resume, fix for time jumping backwards,improved accuracy on vbr files,faster rolo, MDB settings,and the play option in f2/f3 screen and a few touches by me |
| 01:19:26 | LinusN | uski: sounds cool |
| 01:19:33 | uski | ooo evne better |
| 01:19:46 | uski | i could make a pc-keyboard to archos adapter |
| 01:19:54 | uski | so one can simply plug his ps/2 keyboard |
| 01:20:09 | LinusN | diddystar5: the MDB settings aren't all that good (yet) |
| 01:20:33 | diddystar5 | LinusN: they sound VERY good to me |
| 01:20:40 | LinusN | it's not the sound |
| 01:20:49 | diddystar5 | what is it? |
| 01:21:01 | LinusN | it's the naming of the settings, and the bugging on/off control |
| 01:23:41 | diddystar5 | gotta go |
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| 01:37:03 | track | Linus!!!!!!! |
| 01:37:12 | LinusN | yes? |
| 01:37:21 | track | missed u loads!! |
| 01:37:59 | LinusN | :-) |
| 01:38:13 | track | ((gives LinusN a big hug)) |
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| 01:58:10 | midknight2k3 | hi linus |
| 01:58:20 | midknight2k3 | i wanted to ask you something or other but i forget |
| 01:59:32 | LinusN | well, i hope you'll soon remember |
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| 02:01:46 | midknight2k3 | heh |
| 02:04:27 | midknight2k3 | bye linus |
| 02:04:29 | midknight2k3 | nice to see you |
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| 11:29:20 | LinusN | yo Zagor |
| 11:29:24 | Zagor | hi linus |
| 11:29:32 | LinusN | long time no see |
| 11:29:37 | Zagor | very... :-( |
| 11:29:50 | LinusN | Paid Work(tm) has priority... |
| 11:30:21 | Zagor | yes, unfortunately that's they way it has to be. otherwise I'll get a lot of pissed-off customers on my back. |
| 11:30:39 | LinusN | and we don't want that, do we...? |
| 11:30:57 | Zagor | this way, i "only" get a bunch of pissed-off rockbox contributors on my back ;-) |
| 11:31:05 | LinusN | :-) |
| 11:31:51 | Zagor | seriously, i hope to come back into the project soonish. most of the other stuff is done now. |
| 11:32:03 | LinusN | great, same here |
| 11:32:13 | LinusN | i will soon be finished with my current project |
| 11:32:27 | LinusN | Windows 9x/Mac hack |
| 11:34:25 | Zagor | ah, right |
| 11:34:39 | LinusN | gawd i hate programming the mac OS9 |
| 11:35:26 | Zagor | hehe |
| 11:36:00 | LinusN | especially when it crashes on me :-( |
| 11:36:17 | LinusN | kind of like the old days on the Amiga, with no memory protection |
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| 12:26:18 | uski | hi all |
| 12:26:22 | LinusN | hola |
| 12:26:35 | uski | Zagor: is it you who tires to fix the red led dead bug ? |
| 12:26:54 | LinusN | he is supposed to, yes :-) |
| 12:26:57 | uski | if yes, do you know that the bug was introduced after version 1.3 ? |
| 12:27:00 | uski | :) |
| 12:27:31 | LinusN | Zagor: any chance that the STANDBY command could solve it? |
| 12:27:45 | Zagor | LinusN: i've tried that. no noticeable change. |
| 12:27:50 | LinusN | :-( |
| 12:28:04 | Zagor | uski: did you try my test builds, or are you just speaking from memory? |
| 12:28:40 | uski | hmm i did not know that there are test builds; i say this because i recently updated my brother's player from 1.3 to 2.0 and now he is complaining that since the upgrade, it crashes... |
| 12:30:11 | uski | i.e. it NEVEr crashed when the version was 1.3 |
| 12:30:34 | uski | if you want i can try your test builds... what kind of tests is it ? |
| 12:31:08 | Zagor | it's simply tests builds from various points in time where we try to pin down exactly when the problem was introduced |
| 12:32:08 | uski | ok. i assume that you try to approximate the date the bug was introduced by doing a "n/2" algorithm ? like "the bug was introduced between builds 100 and 0. i try build 50, if it crashed i try build 25, if it does not crash i try build 75, ..." |
| 12:32:17 | uski | it is the most efficient way to find the bug |
| 12:32:36 | Zagor | yes |
| 12:33:58 | uski | feel free to send me URLs where to get these builds. i will test them; if a build works for 2 days without crashing, i assume the bug is no longer there. if it crashes one time, i give it a second chance, and if it crashes again during the 2 days period i assume the bug is there |
| 12:36:02 | Zagor | i'm trying to find them... :) |
| 12:36:29 | uski | np; brb in 20mins |
| 12:37:13 | Zagor | here it is: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-04/1232.shtml |
| 12:44:16 | uski | ok. |
| 12:47:06 | uski | can someone tell me where to change the HZ constant ? i plan to change the oscillator freq of my player (LinusN ;)) |
| 12:48:05 | Zagor | HZ is defined in firmware/export/kernel.h |
| 12:48:21 | uski | ok thanks. |
| 12:48:26 | Zagor | however that is not related to the clock frequency |
| 12:48:32 | LinusN | but that is not what you are looking for |
| 12:48:35 | LinusN | :_) |
| 12:48:41 | uski | yea i see this |
| 12:48:51 | uski | i thought HZ was sth like OSCFREQ/stomething :) |
| 12:49:26 | uski | what should i change then ? i think if i change the crystal without modifying the program i'll have problems with: |
| 12:49:28 | uski | - timings |
| 12:49:31 | uski | - serial comms |
| 12:49:33 | uski | and perhaps other things |
| 12:49:54 | LinusN | change config-player.h |
| 12:50:32 | uski | ok ty |
| 12:52:16 | uski | hmmm funny, with a lower CPU frequency, the recorder can do faster serial comms ;) (yes i know, it is because the division is easier) |
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| 13:13:03 | uski | for your interest, i will use 18.432mhz. wow, an overclocked player :) faster cpu, faster comms, :) |
| 13:15:11 | uski | (digikey part num: XC700CT-ND) |
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| 13:55:11 | uski | i have a question about a player user with rockbox firmware; when the ON key is pressed, does the backlight switch up or not ? |
| 13:55:19 | uski | (On button, and not another button) |
| 13:56:09 | LinusN | it should |
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| 14:02:33 | uski | ok: on my player, it does not |
| 14:02:43 | uski | so i think that the backlight is not handled by the firmware |
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| 16:04:00 | [IDC]Dragon | uski? |
| 16:15:11 | [IDC]Dragon | Bertrand? |
| 16:16:04 | * | [IDC]Dragon thinks uski is too busy playing with the stuff |
| 16:22:23 | | Nick [IDC]Dragon is now known as [IDC]Dragon|away (~idc-drago@p50861C2E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:27:13 | uski | idc !! |
| 16:27:19 | uski | hey :) |
| 16:27:22 | uski | come baack |
| 16:27:42 | uski | yea im busy, i am making an IR link for my TI89 calculator to chat in the classroom |
| 16:28:19 | [IDC]Dragon|away | Hi |
| 16:29:04 | | Nick [IDC]Dragon|away is now known as [IDC]Dragon (~idc-drago@p50861C2E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:29:43 | [IDC]Dragon | now uski is away again... |
| 16:30:31 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm waiting for the weather to improve, so I can continue working on my car. |
| 16:31:15 | uski | heh |
| 16:31:23 | uski | please read the logs of yesterday evening |
| 16:31:29 | [IDC]Dragon | uski, I saw you and Linus in the chat. |
| 16:31:30 | uski | i had a long chat with LinusN |
| 16:31:43 | uski | you read all the discussion ? |
| 16:31:51 | [IDC]Dragon | I know, sorry I wasn't there to help |
| 16:31:56 | uski | no problem :) |
| 16:32:07 | uski | so, i have a problem ;) finally, the uart boot works |
| 16:32:21 | uski | BUT yuour minimon does not want to load the program i give it |
| 16:32:32 | [IDC]Dragon | one remork: I'm not secretative about my code at all. |
| 16:32:45 | uski | :) |
| 16:32:52 | [IDC]Dragon | I kept Zagor update with all of it, |
| 16:33:10 | uski | k |
| 16:33:11 | [IDC]Dragon | he just didn't know whhere to check it in, I guess. |
| 16:33:36 | [IDC]Dragon | What about the program download? |
| 16:34:00 | uski | it does not work |
| 16:34:09 | uski | the minimon blink led test works, but ii cannot run any other program |
| 16:34:34 | [IDC]Dragon | you 've put sokmething togeter that starts at 0x09000000 and executes at 0x09000200 ? |
| 16:34:39 | uski | can you add something in minimon to check if the DRAM works ? |
| 16:34:48 | uski | i compiled a special rockbox.bin |
| 16:35:01 | [IDC]Dragon | Can you compile RockFlash? |
| 16:35:02 | uski | with panicf("bla"); in the main(), so the led should blink, but it does not |
| 16:35:26 | uski | no i cannot, i don't have a compiler on my windows platform and i can't port rockflash to linux |
| 16:35:57 | [IDC]Dragon | The player _should_ come up with a panic at normal rockbox code. |
| 16:36:09 | [IDC]Dragon | Because it's not ready for it. |
| 16:36:14 | uski | anyway, the led does not blink |
| 16:36:24 | [IDC]Dragon | At least this is what gizz gets. |
| 16:36:28 | uski | what is not ready ? i already know that the lcd init is not done |
| 16:36:31 | uski | yes |
| 16:36:35 | uski | the LCD is not initialized |
| 16:36:43 | uski | that's why gizz can't get the lcd working lol |
| 16:36:44 | [IDC]Dragon | LCD, and the HD start or so. |
| 16:37:00 | uski | yes, if his model is a newxplayer, the firmware needs to power up the HD |
| 16:37:16 | [IDC]Dragon | yours is different? |
| 16:37:17 | uski | i think that rockbox for players is depending on archos's firmware to do this |
| 16:37:22 | uski | no, i also have a newplayer |
| 16:37:43 | [IDC]Dragon | do you gdb? |
| 16:37:43 | uski | please can you tell me a way to compile a simple test program that ONLY make the led blink ? |
| 16:37:50 | uski | i want to be sure there is not a hardware failure |
| 16:37:54 | uski | cannot |
| 16:38:20 | [IDC]Dragon | get into gdb, you can load the stub with RockFlash. |
| 16:38:22 | uski | i have the boot mod, i compiled a special gdb, but the gdb code is not initialized as i can't get anything running |
| 16:38:35 | uski | hmmm |
| 16:38:44 | uski | i don't understand what you want me to do |
| 16:38:53 | [IDC]Dragon | OK: |
| 16:38:55 | uski | well, i mean i don't understand how it will help |
| 16:39:14 | [IDC]Dragon | you can use RockFlash to load and execute the gdb stub. |
| 16:39:27 | [IDC]Dragon | The you have debugger communication. |
| 16:39:39 | [IDC]Dragon | You can use that to toggle ports, |
| 16:39:54 | [IDC]Dragon | or even to load Rockbox and step through it. |
| 16:40:13 | [IDC]Dragon | I did that. |
| 16:40:27 | [IDC]Dragon | (To find out about missing inits) |
| 16:40:43 | [IDC]Dragon | gotme? |
| 16:42:11 | [IDC]Dragon | Stopeed raining here, my car is waiting for me ;-) |
| 16:42:19 | [IDC]Dragon | Stopped |
| 16:42:28 | uski | ok |
| 16:42:35 | uski | where can i get the .bin of the stub ? |
| 16:42:46 | [IDC]Dragon | YOu can compile it. |
| 16:42:47 | uski | klol here it just starting raining |
| 16:42:55 | uski | hmm |
| 16:43:06 | uski | i built the gdb version of rockbox |
| 16:43:10 | uski | but it does not load of course |
| 16:43:34 | [IDC]Dragon | you have the cvs tree? |
| 16:43:46 | [IDC]Dragon | it has a subdirectory "gdb". |
| 16:44:34 | [IDC]Dragon | I can also give you the minimon sources, you can hack code in there. |
| 16:44:40 | uski | oh yes |
| 16:44:42 | uski | it would be great |
| 16:44:49 | uski | a question |
| 16:44:59 | uski | where does the minimon.bin get's loaded and executed ? |
| 16:45:20 | [IDC]Dragon | It would be great if you can compile RockFlash, you can do all sorts of port banging, mem up/download with it. |
| 16:45:43 | [IDC]Dragon | It's just not at command line level. |
| 16:46:05 | [IDC]Dragon | Probably you've seen the capabilities from the sources. |
| 16:46:32 | uski | in the interal ram of the SH1 or in the external ram ? |
| 16:46:32 | uski | yes i did |
| 16:46:41 | uski | can it be compiled with gcc for windows ? |
| 16:46:58 | [IDC]Dragon | Maybe, I never tried. |
| 16:47:07 | uski | what do you use to compile it ? |
| 16:47:13 | [IDC]Dragon | you'd need to do a makefile for it. |
| 16:47:21 | [IDC]Dragon | MSVC |
| 16:47:23 | uski | ok.. |
| 16:47:29 | uski | i have c++ builder also |
| 16:47:34 | uski | might work with it |
| 16:47:41 | uski | i'll see. |
| 16:52:13 | [IDC]Dragon | email to baATcykianDOTnet is on the way. |
| 16:52:19 | uski | ok |
| 16:52:21 | uski | ty |
| 16:52:36 | [IDC]Dragon | need to go, good luck! |
| 16:52:39 | uski | ty |
| 16:52:43 | uski | have a nice day |
| 16:52:47 | [IDC]Dragon | ;- |
| 16:53:07 | [IDC]Dragon | see you later, in the evening maybe. |
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| 16:59:50 | Nilisco | What on earth is error accessing playlist control file? That's getting a bit annoying. |
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| 19:56:30 | tpelliott | Is a Fujitsu Silent Drive 60 GB drive the best upgrade for my Archos? |
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| 20:04:59 | diddystar5 | what rpm is it? |
| 20:06:17 | AciD | rotation per minutes |
| 20:06:24 | AciD | oops |
| 20:06:32 | * | AciD evades |
| 20:11:40 | uski | tpelliott: no, buy a Porsche |
| 20:11:45 | uski | it can go up to 10000 RPM ! |
| 20:11:49 | uski | it has a very good motor |
| 20:11:52 | diddystar5 | hehe |
| 20:11:58 | uski | and it does not pollute much |
| 20:22:18 | diddystar5 | i want a chopper made by indian larry |
| 20:38:10 | tpelliott | Gave you guys upgraded your hard drive? |
| 20:38:15 | tpelliott | Have |
| 20:43:46 | diddystar5 | no but i have taken my unit totaly apart even the boards |
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| 20:47:07 | diddystar5 | 20 gigs works for me at the moment |
| 20:47:29 | scott666 | at this very moment 20gb works for me too, but im at like 19.5 used |
| 20:48:08 | diddystar5 | but with formating you don't have 19.5 gig to use ;) |
| 20:48:59 | scott666 | well im close then |
| 20:49:03 | scott666 | lol |
| 20:49:24 | diddystar5 | i only have about 8 gigs of music then about 6 gigs of backed-uped stuff |
| 20:50:48 | diddystar5 | does anyone here play doom? |
| 20:50:52 | scott666 | i did |
| 20:51:00 | scott666 | ...back in the day |
| 20:51:09 | diddystar5 | did you ever use source-ports? |
| 20:51:27 | scott666 | uhhhh...no? |
| 20:52:09 | diddystar5 | i just found 2 very nice ones http://legacy.newdoom.com/ |
| 20:52:47 | diddystar5 | and http://www.doomsdayhq.com/ |
| 20:53:14 | diddystar5 | and they are both open source |
| 20:54:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK scott666 |
| 20:54:16 | scott666 | ,99,01. |
| 20:54:17 | scott666 | A half billion people can view PDF Slideshows, regardless of platform, because they've got: |
| 20:54:17 | scott666 | |
| 20:54:17 | scott666 | |
| 20:54:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 20:54:17 | scott666 | A. |
| 20:54:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 20:54:17 | scott666 | Milk |
| 20:54:19 | scott666 | |
| 20:54:21 | scott666 | |
| 20:54:23 | scott666 | B. |
| 20:54:25 | scott666 | Intel® Pentium® 4 processors |
| 20:54:27 | scott666 | |
| 20:54:29 | scott666 | |
| 20:54:31 | scott666 | C. |
| 20:54:33 | scott666 | Adobe Photoshop Elements software |
| 20:54:35 | scott666 | |
| 20:54:37 | scott666 | |
| 20:54:39 | scott666 | D. |
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| 20:54:41 | scott666 | Adobe Acrobat Reader,99,99,01,99 |
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| 20:54:43 | scott666 | ahhh |
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| 20:54:45 | scott666 | that didnt work |
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| 20:54:55 | scott666 | damnit... |
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| 20:55:25 | diddystar5 | ohh ohh i say d dddd |
| 20:55:47 | scott666 | thats from my friends best buyu job training thing |
| 20:56:09 | diddystar5 | jeeze thats easy |
| 20:56:33 | diddystar5 | i hate people at those stores that think they know everything and i know more than they do |
| 20:56:38 | scott666 | 8.Due to built-in software optimizations, customers will see improved performance when running Adobe Photoshop Album on: |
| 20:56:39 | scott666 | A. The hamster wheel |
| 20:56:39 | scott666 | B. Intel-based PCs |
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| 20:56:39 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK scott666 |
| 20:56:39 | scott666 | C. Your TV |
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| 20:56:39 | scott666 | D. None of the above |
| 20:56:49 | scott666 | the answer is obviously A for both |
| 20:57:05 | Sethians | what's the Dynamic Playlist Viewer ?? |
| 20:57:27 | diddystar5 | Sethians: it lets you view playlists |
| 20:57:29 | scott666 | a patch made by hardeep that allows you to view the current playlist and move things around |
| 20:58:07 | diddystar5 | it's very cool |
| 20:58:12 | scott666 | yeah |
| 20:58:29 | diddystar5 | ill compile you a build with it if you want |
| 20:58:30 | Sethians | how can I use that ? |
| 20:59:04 | diddystar5 | you have to patch the source, and then compile it ;) |
| 20:59:11 | scott666 | you either get a pre-compiled version from someone, or compile it yourself |
| 20:59:31 | Sethians | have you have compiled ?? |
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| 21:00:05 | Sethians | I'm new in this.. |
| 21:00:07 | diddystar5 | i do give me a minute whats your email address? |
| 21:00:17 | Sethians | jorge@sethiansweb.com |
| 21:00:53 | scott666 | shouldnt you ask for his model first? |
| 21:01:13 | Sethians | I have two weeks whith this JukeBox Recorder 20 GB , and it's GREAT |
| 21:01:28 | scott666 | i have an FM |
| 21:01:46 | diddystar5 | ok flashed? |
| 21:02:57 | Sethians | nope |
| 21:03:04 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 21:03:28 | Sethians | and you have flashed your JukeBox ? |
| 21:03:39 | diddystar5 | yes |
| 21:05:03 | Sethians | is not subscribe rockbox |
| 21:05:21 | Sethians | is not dangerous to flashed ?? |
| 21:05:57 | diddystar5 | it is kinda dangerous to flash the first time |
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| 21:06:34 | diddystar5 | Sethians: the build with the dynamic playlist viewer is sent |
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| 21:07:30 | Sethians | thank's ! |
| 21:07:31 | diddystar5 | Sethians: to use it, play a playlist, then go to main menu −− playlist options −−view current playlist. |
| 21:08:18 | diddystar5 | with doing that, you can press on + play to move or delete songs from a playlist |
| 21:09:31 | Sethians | ok |
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| 21:16:15 | diddystar5 | hey dragon |
| 21:16:25 | [IDC]Dragon | hi! |
| 21:16:40 | diddystar5 | what does the [IDC] stand for anyway? |
| 21:16:53 | [IDC]Dragon | Instant Death Commando |
| 21:17:03 | [IDC]Dragon | (clan name) |
| 21:17:12 | diddystar5 | hehe cool |
| 21:19:35 | [IDC]Dragon | uski, are you alert? |
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| 21:23:33 | diddystar5 | does anyone have a recommendation for free web-space? i don't want much just a few mb would be fine |
| 21:24:06 | scott666 | geocitities |
| 21:24:21 | scott666 | i think you get 6mb |
| 21:24:31 | [IDC]Dragon | hang on, there was a comparison in the german c't magazine, reaching for my copy... |
| 21:28:13 | Sethians | I have a 100 MB server space |
| 21:28:45 | diddystar5 | nice Sethians i'm cheap i don't like to pay for stuff |
| 21:29:00 | [IDC]Dragon | well there is 8ung.at, fortunecity.de, freenet.de, geocities.de, heim.at, hopmepages.at, it-pc.de, piranco.com, tripod.de |
| 21:29:23 | scott666 | whats .at? |
| 21:29:26 | [IDC]Dragon | liiks like they were focusing about german ones. |
| 21:29:31 | diddystar5 | thanks [IDC]Dragon |
| 21:29:33 | [IDC]Dragon | .at is austria |
| 21:29:39 | scott666 | ahh |
| 21:30:14 | [IDC]Dragon | typo: piranho.com |
| 21:33:35 | diddystar5 | humm i wish i knew some German |
| 21:34:06 | [IDC]Dragon | sorry, they all speak deutsch, I'm afraid. |
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| 21:34:46 | [IDC]Dragon | but some are just localizations of internationl services |
| 21:37:50 | scott666 | try .com instaed of .de for some of em |
| 21:38:10 | [IDC]Dragon | didystar5 is gone. |
| 21:38:15 | scott666 | ahh, so he is |
| 21:38:33 | scott666 | damn spider solitaire... |
| 21:38:41 | [IDC]Dragon | gone claiming webspace with all of the bandwidth |
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| 21:58:10 | scott666 | i wont ask |
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| 22:30:43 | Sethians | scott666 have you flashed your JukeBox ?? |
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| 22:44:37 | uski | [IDC]Dragon: i can't work on rockbox tonight; i did not do anything since this afternoon, i had other things to do; i go to bed now, see you ! :) |
| 22:44:51 | [IDC]Dragon | su |
| 22:46:57 | [IDC]Dragon | cu, i mean. |
| 22:48:16 | uski | :) |
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| 22:48:35 | [IDC]Dragon | Hi Linus! |
| 22:48:46 | LinusN | yo |
| 22:49:05 | [IDC]Dragon | Long not chattet, I'd like to ask you for some ideas. |
| 22:49:13 | LinusN | hit me |
| 22:49:17 | [IDC]Dragon | :-) |
| 22:49:29 | [IDC]Dragon | About the player flashing: |
| 22:49:49 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm remote struggling (using gizz) to get the LCD on. |
| 22:50:09 | LinusN | ok, i couldn't imagine that being hard |
| 22:50:22 | [IDC]Dragon | I disassembled the Archos s/w and found the routine, but it still doesn't work. |
| 22:50:57 | [IDC]Dragon | I even simulated it, with a breakpoint on the LCD outpout function. |
| 22:51:24 | [IDC]Dragon | Got the same sequence, so it can't be too wrong. |
| 22:51:39 | [IDC]Dragon | And shure, i did the port init. |
| 22:51:54 | LinusN | weird |
| 22:52:21 | [IDC]Dragon | sounds like no more idea? |
| 22:52:51 | LinusN | well, it could be that we need to power the LCD somehow |
| 22:53:06 | LinusN | like we need to power the HD |
| 22:53:23 | [IDC]Dragon | I think I'm missing that one, too. |
| 22:53:27 | LinusN | i know |
| 22:53:35 | [IDC]Dragon | His HD stayed quiet. |
| 22:53:52 | LinusN | did you try to power it on? |
| 22:54:06 | [IDC]Dragon | for recorders, it's on by hw default. |
| 22:54:17 | [IDC]Dragon | (even though port controlled) |
| 22:54:26 | [IDC]Dragon | No, I didn't try that. |
| 22:54:36 | [IDC]Dragon | Is it the same port? |
| 22:55:08 | LinusN | i remember that i have already told you about that :-) |
| 22:55:23 | [IDC]Dragon | (maybe they introduced a pullup for the recorders) |
| 22:55:27 | [IDC]Dragon | You did? |
| 22:55:35 | LinusN | yes i did, it's PB4 |
| 22:55:40 | [IDC]Dragon | Well, I can dig it out from the code. |
| 22:55:57 | LinusN | set it to output and 0, and voila! |
| 22:56:19 | [IDC]Dragon | Same as recorder, or different port (never mind)? |
| 22:56:30 | LinusN | not same as recorder |
| 22:56:36 | [IDC]Dragon | OK. |
| 22:56:59 | [IDC]Dragon | I should make that part of the boot loader, to save time. |
| 22:57:12 | LinusN | it's PA5 on the recorder btw |
| 22:57:17 | [IDC]Dragon | Thanks. |
| 22:57:43 | LinusN | it could be that PB4 controls the LCD power as well... |
| 22:57:55 | LinusN | no |
| 22:58:00 | LinusN | forget that |
| 22:59:06 | [IDC]Dragon | ata_enable() switches PA5, I don't see a platform specific implementation. |
| 22:59:39 | [IDC]Dragon | this is called by ata_init() |
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| 23:00:15 | LinusN | that is because the HAVE_ATA_POWER_OFF is only set by the recorder models |
| 23:00:40 | LinusN | the player models can't switch the power on and off without crashing |
| 23:00:54 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm confused: but the players have something like that as well? |
| 23:01:00 | LinusN | and the HAVE_ATA_POWER_OFF macro is used for power saving |
| 23:01:09 | LinusN | the player models can't switch the power on and off without crashing |
| 23:01:14 | [IDC]Dragon | Why? |
| 23:01:18 | LinusN | i dunno |
| 23:01:41 | [IDC]Dragon | but they can switch it on, I presume? ;-) |
| 23:02:03 | LinusN | on the players, i guess it is to be able to charge without spinning the HD |
| 23:02:14 | LinusN | old players doesn't have it |
| 23:02:35 | [IDC]Dragon | meaning, their HD is always on? |
| 23:02:55 | LinusN | the old players don't have the "CHARGED" message, they are off when charging |
| 23:03:10 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, I see. |
| 23:03:19 | LinusN | the new players turn on when you insert the charger, but the HD is unpowered |
| 23:03:39 | LinusN | until you press ON to start the "real" firmware |
| 23:03:45 | [IDC]Dragon | We'll have to work on that, too, I guess. |
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| 23:04:25 | LinusN | so, we need to turn on the HD at boot (if not charging) and never turn it off again |
| 23:04:46 | LinusN | for that, we need a different HAVE_ macro |
| 23:05:07 | LinusN | do you want me to do that for you? |
| 23:05:21 | [IDC]Dragon | Do you mind if I add player code to ata_enable()? It won't get used by the regular code because of no HAVE_ATA_POWER_OFF, but the init/charging code could use it. |
| 23:05:39 | LinusN | i can do that |
| 23:05:52 | [IDC]Dragon | You don't have to... |
| 23:06:00 | LinusN | good, then i leave it to you |
| 23:06:21 | [IDC]Dragon | saving some of your precious time. |
| 23:06:56 | [IDC]Dragon | Wasting it on another question: |
| 23:07:02 | LinusN | :-) |
| 23:07:19 | LinusN | remember that only newplayers have HD power control |
| 23:07:36 | [IDC]Dragon | flashed FMs have the symptom that "on" needs to be held until the soft comes up. |
| 23:07:47 | LinusN | yeah, that's interesting |
| 23:07:55 | [IDC]Dragon | I think I'm missing to enable some "self powering". |
| 23:08:03 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:08:17 | [IDC]Dragon | Do you know that feature? |
| 23:08:21 | LinusN | let me see... |
| 23:09:19 | LinusN | i remember seeing something like that when reverse engineering my fm |
| 23:09:54 | [IDC]Dragon | and... |
| 23:10:50 | [IDC]Dragon | that's it? |
| 23:10:57 | LinusN | (trying to find my notes) |
| 23:11:07 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, take your time. |
| 23:11:18 | [IDC]Dragon | (going to the fridge) |
| 23:13:54 | LinusN | check out PB5 |
| 23:14:17 | LinusN | set it high as soon as possible |
| 23:14:48 | [IDC]Dragon | OK... |
| 23:15:04 | LinusN | use the HAVE_POWEROFF_ON_PB5 macro |
| 23:15:24 | [IDC]Dragon | ahh |
| 23:15:59 | LinusN | that's why the FM powered off in the beginning, because that is the HD power on the normal recorder |
| 23:16:32 | [IDC]Dragon | I wasn't around at those beginnings. |
| 23:16:40 | LinusN | ah |
| 23:17:15 | [IDC]Dragon | One day I started a spreadsheet for the port pins vs. models, I should continue that. |
| 23:17:19 | LinusN | our first attempts to run on the FM failed because it powered off shortly after booting (when spinning down the disk) |
| 23:17:35 | [IDC]Dragon | funny bug! |
| 23:17:40 | LinusN | hehe |
| 23:18:19 | scott666 | wait, so you found the flashed fm start-up bug? |
| 23:18:57 | [IDC]Dragon | Last and hardest(?) symptom: for some people recording crashes after a while. |
| 23:19:00 | LinusN | not sure if that is it, but it sounds likely |
| 23:19:07 | [IDC]Dragon | scott666: looks like so, yes. |
| 23:19:32 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: the crashing recording may be DRAM timing |
| 23:20:04 | [IDC]Dragon | but that should be the same as always? |
| 23:20:16 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:20:38 | scott666 | were the crashed recordings on FMs or normal recorders? |
| 23:20:48 | LinusN | i wonder, who builds the flashed firmware? |
| 23:20:54 | [IDC]Dragon | the DRAM controller is initialised by the ROM, not by me. |
| 23:21:06 | [IDC]Dragon | builds? |
| 23:21:09 | LinusN | it's the UCl on the daily builds page? |
| 23:21:43 | [IDC]Dragon | scripts from badger, I guess? |
| 23:22:24 | LinusN | i was thinking that there could be some gcc version difference...but since the same compiler is used for both builds it can't be that |
| 23:23:58 | [IDC]Dragon | my bootloader switches warp mode on, I thought it might be with the decompression then. |
| 23:24:09 | [IDC]Dragon | might be faster |
| 23:24:56 | LinusN | warp mode is switched on in system_init() as well |
| 23:25:02 | [IDC]Dragon | I know. |
| 23:25:18 | [IDC]Dragon | but that's after rockbox is copied into place. |
| 23:26:00 | [IDC]Dragon | Just a thought on what might be different. |
| 23:27:01 | [IDC]Dragon | scott666: two people or so were talking about recorders, iirc. |
| 23:27:38 | LinusN | maybe this is why the archos firmware records for a few seconds at boot, to handle some obscure bug in the MAS? |
| 23:28:00 | [IDC]Dragon | it does? |
| 23:28:04 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:28:29 | [IDC]Dragon | can whe crash if the MAS goes berzerk? |
| 23:28:42 | LinusN | we can hang |
| 23:28:49 | [IDC]Dragon | bad code... |
| 23:28:58 | LinusN | thanks |
| 23:29:01 | [IDC]Dragon | no timeout? |
| 23:29:12 | [IDC]Dragon | (no offense intended at all) |
| 23:30:03 | LinusN | the code is time critical, my first attempts at a timeout failed |
| 23:30:18 | [IDC]Dragon | I see. |
| 23:30:37 | [IDC]Dragon | And I guess it's in IRAM already? |
| 23:31:08 | LinusN | yup |
| 23:31:44 | LinusN | how do people describe the crash? |
| 23:32:00 | [IDC]Dragon | Let me dig it out, hang on... |
| 23:34:24 | [IDC]Dragon | hangs |
| 23:34:30 | LinusN | ok |
| 23:34:53 | LinusN | sounds like a timing problem then |
| 23:35:37 | LinusN | strange indeed |
| 23:35:40 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm still searching for the original posts, only found me quoting it |
| 23:36:36 | [IDC]Dragon | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-08/0686.shtml |
| 23:36:47 | | Quit edx () |
| 23:36:54 | [IDC]Dragon | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-08/0671.shtml |
| 23:37:36 | LinusN | hmmm |
| 23:37:50 | LinusN | sounds like it has problems saving the data to disk |
| 23:38:55 | | Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se) |
| 23:39:04 | LinusN | yo baggie |
| 23:39:19 | Bagder | evening! |
| 23:39:19 | [IDC]Dragon | more swedes coming in... |
| 23:39:45 | Bagder | my boot problem remains in my 2.4.22 linux :-/ |
| 23:42:11 | LinusN | Bagder: tough luck |
| 23:42:21 | Bagder | annoying |
| 23:42:31 | LinusN | i'm sorry i talked you into buying that network card :-( |
| 23:42:47 | Bagder | hehe |
| 23:42:54 | Bagder | this isn't because of that |
| 23:43:02 | Bagder | this happens before it does anything with the card |
| 23:43:31 | LinusN | have you tried moving the card to another pci slot? |
| 23:44:34 | Bagder | nope, I should try that |
| 23:44:57 | Bagder | but it freezes when saying "mounting local filesystems" |
| 23:45:04 | LinusN | oooh |
| 23:45:28 | Bagder | so it isn't related to the network card drivers or stuff at least |
| 23:45:56 | LinusN | you sure you didn't touch the IDE cables when inserting the pci card? |
| 23:46:09 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:46:15 | LinusN | could be half way out of the socket |
| 23:46:17 | Bagder | I am |
| 23:46:29 | Bagder | and it works every second time |
| 23:46:37 | Bagder | when I press reset after the freeze |
| 23:46:48 | Bagder | and it checkdisks |
| 23:46:51 | Bagder | then it boots fine |
| 23:46:53 | LinusN | could be an interrupt sharing problem... |
| 23:47:39 | LinusN | moving the pci cand may "solve" it |
| 23:47:44 | LinusN | card |
| 23:47:53 | Bagder | I'll try that |
| 23:48:36 | [IDC]Dragon | Is anybody here familiar with WLAN stuff? |
| 23:49:05 | [IDC]Dragon | I'd like to get a router which can stay passive if no net activity. |
| 23:49:24 | LinusN | define "passive" |
| 23:49:32 | [IDC]Dragon | Dunno if such a feature exists, or what it's named. |
| 23:49:58 | [IDC]Dragon | Well, normally there is a transmit a couple of times per second. |
| 23:50:11 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:50:31 | [IDC]Dragon | I have other ISM band stuff which it would interfere with. |
| 23:51:00 | [IDC]Dragon | "beacon interval", that's what it's called. |
| 23:51:13 | LinusN | sounds like a regulation violation to me |
| 23:51:16 | [IDC]Dragon | I'd like to set it to infinity, if possible. |
| 23:51:43 | | Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 23:51:56 | [IDC]Dragon | It could just listen, and if somebody els wants to talk, then send. |
| 23:52:25 | | Join zeenon [0] (~jirc@bgp426638bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 23:52:33 | LinusN | the thing is that the client cards listen to the beacon to find the access point, don't they? |
| 23:52:48 | [IDC]Dragon | Dunno |
| 23:52:50 | LinusN | so you have a status quo |
| 23:53:18 | LinusN | no beacon, no connection |
| 23:53:33 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm afraid there is no distinction between client and access point? |
| 23:53:33 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 2 minutes and 23 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:53:33 | * | LinusN is not an expert on this |
| 23:53:45 | zeenon | hey guys with the daily build is there a way to view what you queue up? |
| 23:53:51 | LinusN | that depends on the mode |
| 23:54:02 | LinusN | zeenon: none, i'm afraid |
| 23:54:13 | [IDC]Dragon | My problem with google, etc. is that I don't know the name of the feature, if exists. |
| 23:54:26 | LinusN | i don't think it exists |
| 23:54:27 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, was just a try. |
| 23:54:32 | zeenon | thanx linusn |
| 23:54:50 | LinusN | zeenon: it's a patch, waiting to be merged into cvs |
| 23:55:00 | LinusN | (like a ton of other cool patches) |
| 23:55:06 | zeenon | cool!!!! |
| 23:55:24 | * | LinusN feels bad about not having time to merge all patches |
| 23:55:43 | zeenon | just got my archos on Friday and have been playing with Friday's build all weekend. |
| 23:55:51 | * | [IDC]Dragon feels bad about not having submitted a patch |
| 23:55:52 | LinusN | zeenon: cool |
| 23:56:55 | zeenon | do you guys see that ######Unregistered copy....Ask webmaster to register? |
| 23:57:16 | LinusN | zeenon: you using the java irc client? |
| 23:57:29 | Bagder | zeenon: get a proper irc client instead |
| 23:57:55 | zeenon | yes but if you see the message (which is annoying) I'll switch to an irc FAT cleint |
| 23:59:15 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: one little clarification, have read you yesterdays' discussion with uski. I'm not "secretive" about my code at all, love to share it. It's just not checked in for minor reasons. |
| 23:59:33 | LinusN | ok |
| 23:59:42 | [IDC]Dragon | Have sent the full pack to Zagor twice. |
| 23:59:52 | LinusN | ok |
| 23:52:58 | [IDC]Dragon | And parts to aother people, as it was useful to them. |
| 23:53:05 | LinusN | i wonder what his problem is... |
| 23:53:09 | LinusN | uski i mean |
| 23:53:27 | [IDC]Dragon | He has a player without HD to play with. |
| 23:54:01 | LinusN | yes, so his code will hang in the ATA init |
| 23:54:08 | [IDC]Dragon | correct. |
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| 23:54:23 | LinusN | but we couldn't even make a simple panicf() call work |
| 23:54:29 | zeenon1 | much better |
| 23:54:30 | LinusN | no led blink |
| 23:54:34 | [IDC]Dragon | I thik he wants to test the unit before investing into a HD. |
| 23:54:37 | | Quit zeenon ("Leaving") |
| 23:54:48 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: understandable |
| 23:55:12 | [IDC]Dragon | Yes, that's strange. The player code goes into a panic when flashed, as of now. |
| 23:55:45 | [IDC]Dragon | He tried a 3.5" HD with adapter, but that didn't work. |
| 23:56:24 | scott666 | anyone think the .rockbox browsing patch will get commited before its a year old? |
| 23:57:14 | Bagder | scott666: I would like that |
| 23:57:27 | LinusN | scott666: NEVER!!!! HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA! |
| 23:57:36 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:57:44 | * | LinusN is evil today |
| 23:58:02 | | Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) |
| 23:58:03 | [IDC]Dragon | You Mac gave you a hard time? |
| 23:58:10 | LinusN | i hate it |
| 23:58:14 | LinusN | with all my heart |
| 23:58:14 | [IDC]Dragon | Your |
| 23:58:14 | BoD[] | YEAH ROCKBOX for president :) |
| 23:58:24 | [IDC]Dragon | Must be the old OS. |
| 23:58:28 | LinusN | OS9, yes |
| 23:58:29 | BoD[] | hello all |
| 23:58:38 | LinusN | BoD[]: HELO |
| 23:58:50 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN, what are you doing with it? |
| 23:58:50 | BoD[] | :)) |
| 23:58:54 | scott666 | how could software run for president? |
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