#rockbox 2003-09-29

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00:00:00	track	ZCAV leaves gaps during the recording
00:00:17	track	CAV doesn;t
00:02:40	midknight2k3	i could make the oscilliscope go left to right
00:02:42	***	Alert Mode OFF
00:02:49	midknight2k3	regardless of zagor's respose to that request
00:02:55	track	lol
00:02:58	track	prove it
00:03:07	midknight2k3	if he says you can't scroll left to right, only up and down..
00:03:14	midknight2k3	how does it scroll at wps?
00:03:19	midknight2k3	oooooooooooo
00:03:29	midknight2k3	it updates the screen every time
00:03:41	midknight2k3	it doesn't scroll, it just moves a little every millisecond or whatever
00:04:40	track	lol
00:04:41	track	kool
00:04:47	track	u tell Zaggor that
00:04:48	midknight2k3	yep
00:04:51	midknight2k3	sure
00:05:14	midknight2k3	the "hardware scrolling" goes up and down, and "software scrolling" is left to right
00:05:14		Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-66-41-171-170.mn.client2.attbi.com)
00:05:17	midknight2k3	think of it that way
00:05:25	midknight2k3	just like your "software tuner"
00:06:17	track	lol
00:07:16		Quit track ("Leaving")
00:08:04	midknight2k3	hmm
00:10:15	midknight2k3	anyone see "the core" yet?
00:14:07	BoD[]	the core.. it's an urban legend
00:14:20	midknight2k3	?
00:14:21	BoD[]	this movie never existed
00:14:39	midknight2k3	i watchd it the day it came out
00:14:42	midknight2k3	it did exist\
00:14:45	midknight2k3	it still does
00:14:57	BoD[]	:) ... YOU are an urban legend then
00:15:14	midknight2k3	not really
00:15:22	midknight2k3	i take it you didnt see it?
00:16:03	BoD[]	I tried to see it on my local theaters ... couldn't find one where it was showing
00:16:17	BoD[]	then I tried to download it on various filesharing systems
00:16:19	midknight2k3	the one where they went to the center of the earth?
00:16:27	midknight2k3	just rent it
00:16:30	midknight2k3	it was good
00:16:32	BoD[]	I downloaded like 10 of them ... each one being another movie
00:16:35	midknight2k3	my favorite movie
00:16:36	midknight2k3	lol
00:16:38	midknight2k3	hahaha
00:16:56	midknight2k3	you should rent it
00:17:05		Quit edx ()
00:17:06	BoD[]	no I gave it up :)
00:17:12	midknight2k3	lol
00:17:21	BoD[]	I prefer to think the movie does'nt exist .. it's funny
00:17:22	midknight2k3	its been out since sept. 8th or something
00:17:26	midknight2k3	its not
00:17:30	midknight2k3	its a good movie
00:17:42	BoD[]	yeah well maybe but
00:17:52		Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...")
00:17:54	BoD[]	maybe we don't have the same taste for movies :)
00:17:56	midknight2k3	it was better than the previews
00:18:14	midknight2k3	and the big microwave that burnt the guys hand red?
00:18:17	midknight2k3	that was good
00:18:30	midknight2k3	it was 500% better than the previews
00:18:41	BoD[]	maouahah :))
00:19:04	midknight2k3	the previews identified it was like, half figuring out the problem and solution and half getting there to fix it and getting back
00:19:13	midknight2k3	it was 85% getting there
00:19:17	midknight2k3	and it was cool cgi
00:21:01	BoD[]	welll well
00:21:04	BoD[]	you have the dvd ?
00:21:13	midknight2k3	i rented it
00:21:17	midknight2k3	i will buy it soon i hope
00:21:24	midknight2k3	i wanna see it again
00:21:28	BoD[]	well.. when you have it, rip it :)
00:21:36	midknight2k3	for a plot overview, visit here:
00:21:40	midknight2k3	http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/core.html
00:22:13	BoD[]	ok
00:22:32	midknight2k3	it says it's terrible
00:22:33	midknight2k3	lol
00:22:37	midknight2k3	but ignore that part
00:23:06	Plugh	mid: I'm still ignoring you
00:23:11	midknight2k3	sure
00:23:13	midknight2k3	seen the core?
00:25:12	midknight2k3	what a meany
00:25:18	midknight2k3	i dont know why you ignore me
00:26:34	BoD[]	:)
00:31:22		Join Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20)
00:33:46	midknight2k3	hi galik
00:33:57	Galik	hi
00:34:03	midknight2k3	seen the core yet?
00:35:01	midknight2k3	wait a sec..
00:35:09	midknight2k3	do anyone know about flashing?
00:35:12	Galik	core?
00:35:19	midknight2k3	the movie
00:35:21	midknight2k3	the core
00:35:26	Galik	Well I flashed my FM
00:35:28	BoD[]	it doesn't exist
00:35:35	midknight2k3	IT DOES EXIST
00:35:38	midknight2k3	annoyance
00:35:43	midknight2k3	galik: when?
00:35:49	Galik	ages ago
00:35:52	BoD[]	:))
00:35:52	midknight2k3	rats
00:36:00	midknight2k3	i recently updated mine with the on button fix
00:36:09	midknight2k3	now i cant reflash ucls some reason
00:36:15	midknight2k3	says "no image found"
00:36:21	Galik	hmmm
00:36:29	*	Galik has no idea
00:36:37	midknight2k3	did you do the on button fix?
00:36:52	Galik	not heard about it
00:36:57	midknight2k3	oh
00:37:02	Galik	my on-button seems to work
00:37:03	midknight2k3	so you dont have to hold on to get it going
00:37:07	midknight2k3	just press
00:37:09	midknight2k3	like before
00:37:19	Galik	errrm hold on...
00:37:32	midknight2k3	so you don't have to hold the on button to get it to start
00:37:37	midknight2k3	you just click it
00:37:44	*	Galik scurries off to find his jukebox
00:37:48	midknight2k3	lol
00:38:32	Galik	Hmmm it doesn't turn on oif I just press it...
00:38:40	Galik	I have to hold it down
00:38:43	midknight2k3	right
00:38:48	midknight2k3	there is an update available
00:38:50	midknight2k3	so you just press it
00:38:53	midknight2k3	instead of hold
00:39:02	midknight2k3	like the old jbrfm archos firwmare
00:39:04	Galik	Bah. That must add at least, what?, a quarter of a second to boot time
00:39:10	midknight2k3	i know
00:39:14	midknight2k3	just so you dont have to hold it
00:39:19	midknight2k3	its not the time required
00:39:26	midknight2k3	its the .. its the hold required
00:39:30	midknight2k3	just a minor update
00:39:52	midknight2k3	no need for sarcasm
00:40:03	midknight2k3	just an issue i cant UCL reflash
00:40:05	Galik	But I think I prefer holding. Less likely to accidently switch itself on whilst I'm sky-diving
00:40:19	midknight2k3	yeah
00:40:27	midknight2k3	and of course the ucl thing
00:40:39	Galik	ucl? what's that?
00:40:47	midknight2k3	.ucl?
00:40:49	midknight2k3	to update rockbox?
00:41:04	Galik	argh you have a problem running .ucl's
00:41:08	midknight2k3	yeah
00:41:27	Galik	I guess you need to reflash again then
00:41:31	midknight2k3	yeah
00:41:33	midknight2k3	i dunno
00:41:38	midknight2k3	never checked into it that much
00:41:42	midknight2k3	no new features needed
00:41:42	Galik	when it's fixed of course
00:41:49	midknight2k3	no activity lately
00:41:51	midknight2k3	brb
00:44:48	midknight2k3	ok
00:44:50	midknight2k3	back
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00:50:02		Join diddystar5 [0] (diddystar5@AC9C5EFC.ipt.aol.com)
00:50:10	midknight2k3	diddystar!
00:50:18	midknight2k3	i joined 7 minutes after you left
00:50:19	midknight2k3	lol
00:50:32	midknight2k3	12:10:37 \| * Now talking in #rockbox
00:50:33	midknight2k3	12:10:37 \| * Topic is 'Rockbox for president'
00:50:33	midknight2k3	12:10:37 \| * Set by Zagor on Mon Sep 01 00:08:46
00:50:33	***	Alert Mode level 1
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00:50:33	***	Alert Mode level 3
00:50:33	midknight2k3	12:10:54 \| <midknight2k3> CRAP
00:50:44	diddystar5	is there anyone that is a good programmer here and can help me with my vu meter?
00:50:58	diddystar5	hehe
00:51:00	midknight2k3	adi maybe
00:51:01	midknight2k3	loo
00:51:02	midknight2k3	lol
00:51:09	midknight2k3	ze perhaps
00:51:26	midknight2k3	can you dcc me the c file?
00:51:29	midknight2k3	i wanna see the latest
00:51:33	midknight2k3	and add my improvements
00:51:42	diddystar5	i wrote the return move_needle, but for some reason the plugin just quits, even though there is no code that tells the plugin to quit
00:51:54	midknight2k3	lol
00:52:03	diddystar5	what are your improvments mid?
00:52:20	midknight2k3	i just wrote a needle cover and i changed the lines around
00:52:25	midknight2k3	i was planning another thing too
00:52:30	midknight2k3	may i have c file?
00:52:35	midknight2k3	you'll see
00:52:41	diddystar5	could you dcc me the file you have?
00:52:48	diddystar5	with your improvments
00:52:51	midknight2k3	ok
00:53:00	midknight2k3	but it cant do the 1 pixel move
00:53:03	midknight2k3	not like it matters lol
00:53:34	midknight2k3	hm
00:53:35	midknight2k3	sec
00:53:50	diddystar5	ill look over your improvments and add them if they look good to me and then ill dcc you the latest
00:53:58	midknight2k3	ok
00:56:05	midknight2k3	this is hilarious
00:56:10	diddystar5	what
00:56:16	midknight2k3	the "copying" dialog in xp going back and forth
00:56:25	midknight2k3	make five folders in win explorer
00:56:39	midknight2k3	make one and ctrl v it
00:56:42	midknight2k3	you hafta see this
00:56:58	diddystar5	umm k
00:57:10	midknight2k3	heh
00:57:58	diddystar5	i don't think i have ever used windows explorer since i moved to XP
00:58:13	midknight2k3	my computer
00:58:14	midknight2k3	whatever
00:58:15	midknight2k3	lol
00:58:24		Quit AciD``` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
00:58:43	midknight2k3	well
00:58:48	midknight2k3	it might be simpler this way
00:58:57	midknight2k3	copy your apps folder from c:\cygwin
00:59:09	midknight2k3	then make different folders in c:\
00:59:15	midknight2k3	then put apps in each
00:59:18	midknight2k3	you want files in them
00:59:53	diddystar5	midknight2k3: have you ever used 7-zip?
01:00
01:00:01	midknight2k3	no
01:00:16	diddystar5	it's really cool http://www.7-zip.org/
01:00:34	***	Alert Mode OFF
01:00:38	diddystar5	it makes unziping gzip and bzip and whatever files very quick
01:00:52	midknight2k3	cool
01:00:56	midknight2k3	ill give it a go
01:01:02	midknight2k3	at the time i cant find my old vu_meter.c
01:01:28	midknight2k3	lemme look again
01:01:30	diddystar5	a right click and another click is alot easier than typing tar -j -xf rockbox5476825.tar.bz2
01:01:39	midknight2k3	lol
01:02:05	ze	i dunno about that
01:02:23	midknight2k3	ze
01:02:27	midknight2k3	can you help with vu meter
01:02:43	ze	typing 'tar zxvf rock<TAB>' is quicker for me than having to poke around a GUI with what amounts to a stick in your mouth
01:02:44	diddystar5	me!
01:02:59	ze	or jxvf as it were
01:03:14	midknight2k3	r<tab> is more like it
01:03:19	ze	indeed
01:03:33	ze	'tar jxf r<TAB>" pretty quick to me
01:03:33	ze	heh
01:03:37	diddystar5	its tar -j -xf whatever.tar.gz to ungzip and untar for me
01:03:44	midknight2k3	whatever
01:03:46	ze	what kinda tar you have?
01:03:47	midknight2k3	stop arguing
01:04:01	diddystar5	cygwin
01:04:04	ze	GNU tar, -'s for arguments are depreciated (and you're not supposed to use them)
01:04:28	diddystar5	whelp works for me...
01:04:38	ze	and also you don't need need to seperate them like -j -xf, j x and f are all 3 different options, you just need -jxf or better just jxf
01:05:13	diddystar5	i dont use very many command lines so i don't know all those cool tricks :)
01:05:14	ze	and if you're on XP you probably have tab-completion too
01:05:20	midknight2k3	yep
01:05:23	midknight2k3	like this
01:05:25	midknight2k3	ze
01:05:27	midknight2k3	z<tab>
01:05:30	midknight2k3	=
01:05:32	midknight2k3	ze
01:05:41	diddystar5	the that tab thing works!
01:05:41	ze	m<tab> for me comes out to
01:05:42	ze	midknight2k3:
01:05:44	diddystar5	*hey
01:05:47	midknight2k3	lol
01:05:52	midknight2k3	type m <tab>
01:05:59	midknight2k3	midkight2k3 pops up
01:06:03	midknight2k3	knight*
01:06:07	diddystar5	not on xchat
01:06:16	midknight2k3	aw
01:06:19	ze	or if i type m<tab> in the MIDDLE of a line instead of at the begginning it comes out like midknight2k3
01:06:20	midknight2k3	try klient or mirc
01:06:27	ze	i use irssi
01:06:30	ze	mmm irssi
01:06:36	diddystar5	on xchat i just type M: and it changes it to midknight2k3:!
01:06:37	ze	GUI is worthless for irc, it's all text anyway
01:06:37	ze	heh
01:06:40	midknight2k3	yep
01:07:03	diddystar5	i think thats better
01:07:30	ze	i used to like the auto-completion that just replaces b: with blah:
01:07:42	ze	but after getting used to using tab-completion for it i like it better
01:07:49	ze	because the b: style thing gets it wrong a lot
01:07:55	ze	in channels with lots of people
01:07:56	diddystar5	well ze you wouldn't mind looking at my vu meter code and help me figure out how to update the needle would ya?
01:08:04	midknight2k3	please ze
01:08:08	ze	diddystar5: i'm a shitty coder and have no archos
01:08:10	ze	heh
01:08:13	diddystar5	o well
01:08:17	midknight2k3	just give it a try
01:08:23	midknight2k3	pleaSE?
01:08:23	diddystar5	what are you doing in #rockbox then?
01:08:28	ze	because i like rockbox
01:08:29	midknight2k3	he WAS a coder
01:08:30	midknight2k3	lol
01:08:34	diddystar5	if yah ave no archos
01:08:39	ze	i've contributed a bit, and still like to keep up on it
01:08:52	midknight2k3	so try to comtribute with this
01:08:52	ze	i used to have an archos
01:08:53	midknight2k3	pleeease
01:08:57	ze	bestbuy just replaced it with a zen is all
01:08:58	ze	heh
01:09:02	diddystar5	ooo
01:09:10	diddystar5	stuiped best buy
01:09:16	midknight2k3	yep
01:09:18	midknight2k3	and ze
01:09:19	ze	actualy hw-wise i like the zen better
01:09:23	midknight2k3	my f2 and f3 buttons are busted
01:09:25	ze	just wish it had opensource firmware hehe
01:09:29	midknight2k3	and i have bestbuy warranty too
01:09:33	midknight2k3	:(
01:09:34	diddystar5	midknight2k3: howd ya do that?
01:09:39	midknight2k3	its crap
01:09:42	midknight2k3	the build of the fmr
01:09:47	midknight2k3	everyones breaks
01:09:51	ze	yeah it is
01:09:52	diddystar5	i have a 4 year bb warrenty!
01:09:52	midknight2k3	bad job on it
01:09:56	midknight2k3	i do too
01:10:04	midknight2k3	except when mine breaks i get a zen
01:10:07	midknight2k3	ill push for a karma if i must
01:10:20	midknight2k3	aka (please gie me it pleeeeeaasseeeeeee????)
01:10:34	ze	heh
01:10:43	ze	just like watch
01:10:48	ze	and go in there when that's all they got
01:10:48	thu	wanted: mp3 management system
01:10:49	ze	or something :p
01:10:52	midknight2k3	hahah
01:10:53	thu	preferably database-backed
01:10:53		Quit BoD[] ("dodo")
01:10:57	midknight2k3	i want vu meter
01:11:00	midknight2k3	can you help ze
01:11:06	midknight2k3	its just a litle work
01:11:07	diddystar5	it thu a good coder?
01:11:07	ze	nope sorry
01:11:11	ze	heh
01:11:13	midknight2k3	thu i think is
01:11:13	diddystar5	*is
01:11:15	thu	diddystar5: argh :)
01:11:21	ze	i'm busy with stuff
01:11:21	midknight2k3	can you code thu?
01:11:24	ze	i've got a lot of my own to create
01:11:25	midknight2k3	ze sucks
01:11:26	thu	diddystar5: I don't wanna WRITE one
01:11:33	midknight2k3	smash a tv and get over it
01:11:34	diddystar5	i need help with me vu meter
01:11:38	midknight2k3	just help
01:11:40	midknight2k3	not a new one
01:11:42	midknight2k3	its all laid out
01:11:44	thu	midknight2k3: rumor has it that I can
01:11:48	diddystar5	midknight2k3: wheres your vu meter changes also?
01:11:48	midknight2k3	just get it to move better
01:11:52	thu	midknight2k3: however it has never been proven
01:11:54	midknight2k3	i cant find it
01:12:04	midknight2k3	you can what thu
01:12:12	thu	midknight2k3: code of course
01:12:16	midknight2k3	yeah
01:12:18	midknight2k3	please help
01:12:20	midknight2k3	you are the best
01:13:17	diddystar5	please all i need is you to take a quick looky at what i have and tell me how to make the needle update
01:13:30	midknight2k3	its for the best thu
01:13:31	midknight2k3	pleae
01:13:33	midknight2k3	please*
01:13:38	midknight2k3	just look
01:13:55	thu	uhm not sure I can help with that
01:14:03	midknight2k3	just look?
01:14:42	diddystar5	it's a small bit of code only 4kb atm
01:14:48	midknight2k3	ool
01:14:49	midknight2k3	lol
01:15:51	diddystar5	thu dosen't like us :(
01:16:05	midknight2k3	>:<
01:16:32	thu	what's it written on?
01:16:35	thu	s/on/in
01:16:42	thu	I can only read qbasic
01:16:45	thu	and pieces of visual basic
01:16:46	midknight2k3	c?
01:16:48	midknight2k3	c?
01:16:49	midknight2k3	lol
01:16:51	diddystar5	c yes
01:16:56	midknight2k3	just like all rockbox
01:17:04	diddystar5	almost all of rockbox
01:17:13	diddystar5	some things are wriiten in assembly
01:17:25	thu	you wrote a vumeter for rockbox?
01:17:31	diddystar5	yes
01:17:36	thu	nice
01:17:41	midknight2k3	its not complete yet
01:17:45	midknight2k3	it WILL be nice
01:17:47	midknight2k3	if you can help
01:17:49	thu	I don't think I could write one
01:17:49	diddystar5	except i don't know how to get the needle to keep updateing
01:17:55	thu	so that probably means I can't debug it either
01:18:20	midknight2k3	lcd_update(false)?
01:18:23	midknight2k3	diddy?
01:18:43	diddystar5	i have it where is will work for one cycle, but i want it to keep going for many cycles
01:18:59	midknight2k3	lcd_update(false)!!!
01:19:02	diddystar5	midknight2k3: lcd_update() just writes the lcd buffer to the screen
01:19:11	midknight2k3	and that doesnt work for this?
01:19:16	diddystar5	no
01:19:20	midknight2k3	rats
01:19:53	diddystar5	all it does after you have written lcd_drawline() or whatever it will write all of those the screen
01:20:01	diddystar5	to
01:20:29	midknight2k3	can you dcc me vumeter? i can reapply changes pretty painlessly
01:20:35	diddystar5	if it was that easy the vu meter would be done and already a patch :)
01:20:41	midknight2k3	hahha
01:20:44	diddystar5	midknight2k3: ok one sec
01:20:49	midknight2k3	ty
01:21:19	midknight2k3	thx
01:21:48	midknight2k3	wait a sec here
01:21:50	diddystar5	try to add those quickly i don't know how much longer i will be online
01:21:57	midknight2k3	add what quickly
01:22:00	midknight2k3	oh
01:22:00	midknight2k3	yeah
01:22:04	midknight2k3	ill hurry
01:22:05	diddystar5	...
01:22:22	midknight2k3	we have 2 bunches of the same code.. guess i better mod botj
01:22:45	midknight2k3	both*
01:23:07	diddystar5	no don't mess with the second one
01:23:13	diddystar5	just the first
01:23:15	midknight2k3	no
01:23:17	midknight2k3	why not
01:23:28	midknight2k3	rb->lcd_clear_display();
01:23:29	midknight2k3	rb->lcd_setfont
01:23:29	midknight2k3	rb->lcd_putsxy(1, 1, "VU Meter");
01:23:29	midknight2k3	rb->lcd_drawline(l_x1, l_y1, l_x22, l_y2);
01:23:29	midknight2k3	rb->lcd_drawline(r_x1, r_y1, r_x22, r_y2);
01:23:30	***	Alert Mode level 1
01:23:30	midknight2k3	/* These are the lines under and above the needles */
01:23:31	***	Alert Mode level 2
01:23:31	midknight2k3	rb->lcd_drawline(1, 17, 112, 17);
01:23:33	midknight2k3	rb->lcd_drawline(1, 53, 112, 53);
01:23:35	midknight2k3	rb->lcd_update();
01:23:37	midknight2k3	my changes go to this
01:23:39	midknight2k3	there are 2 setsx
01:23:41	midknight2k3	sets*
01:23:54	diddystar5	yes only change the first for now please
01:24:16	midknight2k3	that will change it all over then?
01:24:17	midknight2k3	okay
01:24:20	midknight2k3	votever
01:25:05	diddystar5	are you almost done?
01:25:16	midknight2k3	not quite..
01:25:19	midknight2k3	how long?
01:25:46	diddystar5	like a few minutes however long i can bribe my mom
01:25:53	midknight2k3	will you be back later?
01:26:12	diddystar5	maybe
01:26:18	midknight2k3	hm
01:26:20	diddystar5	but keep working on it
01:26:22	midknight2k3	tell her its real important
01:26:27	midknight2k3	it always works for me
01:26:30	midknight2k3	super important
01:26:32	diddystar5	lol
01:26:34	midknight2k3	something you cannot miss
01:26:41	midknight2k3	or it will ruin the whoel vu meter
01:26:44	midknight2k3	btw for me
01:27:03	midknight2k3	running test build for first changes
01:27:42	diddystar5	humm the lines may not change because of the second hunk of the code
01:27:50	midknight2k3	right
01:27:53	midknight2k3	thats the problem
01:27:54	midknight2k3	i hope it doe
01:27:56	midknight2k3	does*
01:28:24	diddystar5	i got my mom to go to the grocery store!! now i havea atleast 30 mins
01:28:31	midknight2k3	YES
01:28:33	midknight2k3	oh yes
01:28:34	midknight2k3	mm hmm
01:28:35	midknight2k3	oh yeah
01:28:37	midknight2k3	woo woo
01:28:38	midknight2k3	uh huh
01:28:40	midknight2k3	oh yeah
01:28:44	midknight2k3	oh.. right
01:28:46	midknight2k3	vu meter.
01:29:37	midknight2k3	CRAP
01:29:48	midknight2k3	at least i have time to get new screens.c
01:30:07	diddystar5	new screens.c?
01:30:17	midknight2k3	nothing
01:30:21	midknight2k3	i tried something
01:30:23	midknight2k3	it didnt work
01:30:26	midknight2k3	now it wont revert
01:30:27	midknight2k3	lol
01:30:52	diddystar5	also notice that the first hunk is a bit differn't than the second
01:30:54	midknight2k3	my new cygwin is installed
01:31:01	midknight2k3	i didnt see that
01:31:11	diddystar5	cool
01:31:24	diddystar5	how long did it take :)?
01:31:38	midknight2k3	i got it on broadband
01:31:44	midknight2k3	installing, about half an hour
01:31:57	midknight2k3	copied it to the trusty archos to bring home
01:31:58	midknight2k3	lol
01:31:58	diddystar5	took me 3 1/2 hours and i didn't even get everything i wanted
01:32:02	midknight2k3	hahaha
01:32:30	diddystar5	my school has a T3 i should dl it there and bring it home on my ajb
01:32:36	midknight2k3	right
01:32:37	midknight2k3	good idea
01:32:44	midknight2k3	dells have a flip out usb port in front
01:32:48	midknight2k3	if your school uses dell
01:32:53	diddystar5	T3 = very fast!
01:33:10	midknight2k3	downside: it takes about 5 minutes to copy with usb1
01:33:18	midknight2k3	only about 30 secs with 2.0
01:33:25	diddystar5	humm i might look odd hooking up a cable to the back of the puter in front of everyone
01:33:30	midknight2k3	im so glad i got that 2.0 card
01:33:31	midknight2k3	hahah
01:33:32	***	Alert Mode OFF
01:33:37	midknight2k3	just act like you know what youre doing
01:33:49	midknight2k3	and you need to copy a file because "you can't get it at home"
01:33:53	diddystar5	what are you staring at you little ******
01:33:57	midknight2k3	hahahah
01:34:17	midknight2k3	add in a "*********" while you're at it
01:34:25	diddystar5	dosen't everyone dl stuf at school?
01:34:57	midknight2k3	i do
01:35:05	midknight2k3	can you say "remote administrator"?
01:35:07	midknight2k3	lol
01:35:10	diddystar5	a "**** ****"
01:35:31	midknight2k3	can you also say "angry librarian"?
01:35:37	diddystar5	"remote administrator"
01:35:42	midknight2k3	oh boy
01:35:45	diddystar5	"angry librarian"
01:36:12	midknight2k3	vu_meter.c: In function `plugin_start':
01:36:12	midknight2k3	vu_meter.c:65: parse error before "rb"
01:36:12	midknight2k3	vu_meter.c:112: parse error before "rb"
01:36:12	midknight2k3	vu_meter.c:88: warning: `move_needle' might be used uninitialized in this functi
01:36:12	midknight2k3	on
01:36:24	midknight2k3	make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/rockbox/apps/plugins'
01:36:25	midknight2k3	make[1]: *** [rocks] Error 2
01:36:25	midknight2k3	make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rockbox/apps'
01:36:25	***	Alert Mode level 1
01:36:25	midknight2k3	make: *** [apps] Error 2
01:36:36	midknight2k3	odd
01:36:38	diddystar5	forget vu_meter.c:88: warning: `move_needle' might be used uninitialized in this functi
01:36:46	midknight2k3	oh
01:36:47	midknight2k3	i see
01:36:48	midknight2k3	here
01:36:50	diddystar5	did you forget a ; somewhere?
01:36:57	midknight2k3	it's " `move needle' "
01:37:07	midknight2k3	oh nm
01:37:12	midknight2k3	i dont thik so
01:37:27	diddystar5	i do that sometimes and there hard to find
01:37:39	midknight2k3	ohh
01:37:39	midknight2k3	i did
01:37:41	midknight2k3	lol
01:38:07	midknight2k3	btw, why did you put <spacespacespacespacespace>rb-> and then the function?
01:38:24	midknight2k3	why not just the function?
01:38:45	diddystar5	because if you look there are in a function already
01:38:59	midknight2k3	whatever
01:39:09	midknight2k3	i do not modify the second bunch of code?
01:39:25	diddystar5	you can if you want it to look right when you test it
01:39:36	midknight2k3	ok
01:39:37	diddystar5	go ahead and do it
01:39:40	diddystar5	just note that
01:40:09	diddystar5	rb->lcd_drawline(l_x1, l_y1, l_x2, l_y2); and rb->lcd_drawline(l_x1, l_y1, l_x22, l_y2); are different
01:40:19	midknight2k3	whatever
01:40:38	diddystar5	the l_x2 and l_x22 are differn't
01:41:00	diddystar5	if thats is what your modifing
01:41:22	midknight2k3	i dunno
01:41:24	midknight2k3	let me check this
01:41:45	midknight2k3	it exits pronto
01:41:48	midknight2k3	did it do that for you?
01:41:57	diddystar5	whoops add
01:42:15	diddystar5	rb->sleep(HZ * 4) at the end
01:42:29	midknight2k3	by holding PLAY it stayed on almost constantly
01:42:38	midknight2k3	i saw three needles
01:42:39	midknight2k3	lol
01:42:39	diddystar5	or replace that with return move_needle;
01:42:44	midknight2k3	one connecting the other to something
01:43:13	diddystar5	yes thats because of return move_needle; at the end
01:43:19	midknight2k3	return move_needle;
01:43:19	midknight2k3	}
01:43:19	midknight2k3	rb->sleep(HZ * 4)
01:43:19	***	Alert Mode level 2
01:43:19	midknight2k3	#endif /* #ifndef SIMULATOR */
01:43:22	midknight2k3	that good?
01:43:35	midknight2k3	or i replace move_needle
01:43:38	diddystar5	no it's
01:43:39	diddystar5	....
01:44:04	diddystar5	}
01:44:04	diddystar5	rb->sleep(HZ * 5);
01:44:04	diddystar5	}
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01:44:04	diddystar5	#endif /* #ifndef SIMULATOR */
01:44:21	midknight2k3	just replace the move needle?
01:44:31	diddystar5	you can replace the 5 with however many secs you want it to pause
01:44:37	midknight2k3	ok
01:44:41	diddystar5	yes replace move_needle
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01:45:31	midknight2k3	still messed up
01:45:40	midknight2k3	thers like, a long needle and a normal one
01:45:58	diddystar5	thats just a screw up forget it
01:46:06	midknight2k3	if i play a song it goes to normal
01:46:06	diddystar5	but is what yuo changed working?
01:46:21	midknight2k3	it needs a biut more modifying
01:46:24	midknight2k3	bit*
01:46:43	diddystar5	ok hurry up please (no rush though) :)
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01:46:58	midknight2k3	adi
01:47:03	midknight2k3	can you help with vu meter>
01:47:35	diddystar5	midknight2k3: not at the moment
01:47:41	diddystar5	i have some more ideas
01:47:46	midknight2k3	okay..
01:48:13	diddystar5	and some changes i have in my head
01:48:23	midknight2k3	are you trying them?
01:48:38	diddystar5	i will be when you get done with your changes
01:48:53	midknight2k3	work on it now
01:48:58	midknight2k3	then we will be 2x as fast
01:49:39	diddystar5	are you about done .... now?
01:49:44	midknight2k3	just about
01:50:38	midknight2k3	hm
01:50:41	midknight2k3	ohhh
01:50:48	diddystar5	what?
01:51:02	midknight2k3	i got a panic stkov scroll or something
01:51:23	diddystar5	ok remove rb->lcd_putsxy(1, 1, "VU Meter");
01:51:33	diddystar5	from both parts
01:51:37	midknight2k3	that's the problem?
01:51:49	diddystar5	yes i need to figure out a way around it
01:51:51	midknight2k3	for that i was setting the font sysfixed and moving the top line up
01:52:08	diddystar5	ok send me what you have
01:52:16	diddystar5	hurry!!!!
01:52:16	midknight2k3	all right
01:52:20	midknight2k3	still working on the covers
01:52:24	midknight2k3	but what i have is coming
01:52:26	diddystar5	now!!!
01:52:29	midknight2k3	OKAY
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01:53:35	diddystar5	bye
01:53:39	diddystar5	gotta go
01:53:40	midknight2k3	bye
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02:20:40	midknight2k3	ok, ze, you here?
02:20:44	ze	no, why?
02:20:45	midknight2k3	i need a small bit o help
02:20:58	midknight2k3	do you know about descramble.exe?
02:21:04	ze	not really
02:21:14	midknight2k3	have you ever used it?
02:21:33	ze	not .exe, but i might've used descramble a long time ago
02:21:46	midknight2k3	to read the original firwmare?
02:22:04	ze	well
02:22:08	ze	to descramble it
02:22:13	midknight2k3	ok
02:22:20	midknight2k3	and descarmbling it to read it?
02:22:38	Plugh	what do you want mid?
02:22:48	midknight2k3	to read the code of the original firmware
02:22:53	ze	you can't
02:22:56	midknight2k3	can descramble do that?
02:22:57	ze	without disassembling it
02:22:58	midknight2k3	well
02:23:01	midknight2k3	ok
02:23:04	midknight2k3	how can i disassemble
02:23:06	ze	and that doesn't really give "readable" code
02:23:21	ze	first you descramble and then you find a disassembler and run it on it
02:23:26	midknight2k3	what did zagor do to be able to do "looked a bit of one of the firmwares" then?
02:23:29	midknight2k3	ok
02:23:34	midknight2k3	what sort of disassembler?
02:23:38	midknight2k3	any suggestions?>
02:23:43	ze	nope
02:23:51	ze	disassembling sucks overall
02:23:51	ze	heh
02:24:02	midknight2k3	zagor can look at the code
02:24:04	midknight2k3	why cant i
02:24:19	ze	yeah it can be useful if you really know what you're doing and have no other way to find something out
02:24:40	midknight2k3	i jsut wanted to see and perhaps use some of the code
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02:30:07	midknight2k3	dudey
02:30:15	Dude	Helo!
02:30:21	Dude	Finally you're on.
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02:32:28	midknight2k3	opps
02:59:32	midknight2k3	ok
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03:08:38	midknight2k3	bye
03:08:46	midknight2k3	lissen up all
03:08:50	midknight2k3	anyone code?
03:08:54	midknight2k3	i need help
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03:56:54	thu	midknight2k3: is the needle still not updating?
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03:57:08	midknight2k3	i didnt try to make it go
03:57:12	midknight2k3	although hardeep...
03:57:18	midknight2k3	devises plan
03:57:19	midknight2k3	lol
03:57:29	hardeep	i didn't do it
03:57:31	hardeep	wasn't me
03:57:33	midknight2k3	lol
03:57:42	midknight2k3	it will be you once you help me ;)
03:57:56	midknight2k3	hardeep thinks, "not again"
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04:01:24	hardeep	midknight2k3: help with what?
04:01:33	midknight2k3	a vu meter plugin
04:01:47	midknight2k3	we just need help getting it to keep updating
04:02:01	hardeep	what's happening?
04:02:07	midknight2k3	diddystar made it update once, and it will move [the needle] one pixel to the right but no more
04:02:22	midknight2k3	we just need it to keep updating
04:02:29	midknight2k3	wnat me to dcc the vumeter.c file?
04:02:32	midknight2k3	you can look at it
04:02:40	midknight2k3	maybe give an idea how it should go
04:02:46	hardeep	sure, send it to me
04:03:00	midknight2k3	just a sec
04:04:19	midknight2k3	let me see if it will compile
04:04:41	midknight2k3	after my ghetto mods it might not.. just checking if they were removed successfully
04:04:52	midknight2k3	and you know what i mean by ghetto mods
04:05:56	midknight2k3	ok
04:06:51	midknight2k3	dcc ready hardeep
04:06:56	midknight2k3	awaiting reply
04:07:31	midknight2k3	pop it in apps/plugins
04:07:32	midknight2k3	anyways
04:07:35	midknight2k3	known bugs:
04:07:44	midknight2k3	will mess up if loaded without playing
04:08:02	midknight2k3	sometimes causes an illinstr - should be fixed
04:08:09	midknight2k3	and it's still under development
04:08:16	midknight2k3	its sorta messed up as of now
04:08:26	midknight2k3	but after we or you can get it to move, we will get it fixed
04:08:31	midknight2k3	credit goes to diddystar
04:08:39	midknight2k3	i cant take any credit.. great work by diddystar it is
04:08:46	midknight2k3	let me shut up :)
04:13:34	midknight2k3	whatcha think? possible to make it move?
04:13:45	hardeep	midknight2k3: okay, you want this plugin to keep updating the display while something's playing?
04:14:00	midknight2k3	if that makes it continue to move, yes
04:14:07	midknight2k3	i just need a way to make it move to the music
04:14:12	midknight2k3	i believe the correct code is there
04:14:16	midknight2k3	just needs to keep updating
04:14:17	midknight2k3	am i right?
04:14:25	hardeep	midknight2k3: well, as it's written right now, it'll update once and then exit
04:14:36	hardeep	midknight2k3: if you want to continuous, you need to add a loop
04:14:36	midknight2k3	apparently it updates once (one pixel) and stops, then exits
04:14:40	midknight2k3	okay
04:14:42	midknight2k3	can you teach me?
04:14:50	midknight2k3	or at least help me?
04:16:26	midknight2k3	well, will making it update more than once (loop) make it move to the music?
04:16:26	hardeep	give me a sec... trying to understand exactly how he's drawing
04:16:34	midknight2k3	sure
04:16:49	midknight2k3	it does give a warning during compile
04:16:53	midknight2k3	about move_needle
04:16:54	midknight2k3	here it is:
04:17:05	midknight2k3	vu_meter.c: In function `plugin_start':
04:17:05	midknight2k3	vu_meter.c:87: warning: unused variable `move_needle'
04:17:05	midknight2k3	vu_meter.c:119: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
04:17:08	hardeep	unused variable i'd guess
04:17:10	hardeep	yeah
04:17:11	midknight2k3	yup
04:20:24	midknight2k3	i need a book on c
04:20:25	midknight2k3	lol
04:20:36	midknight2k3	what else is now
04:20:38	midknight2k3	new*
04:20:44	hardeep	The C Programming Language
04:20:50	hardeep	Kernighan and Ritchie
04:21:05	midknight2k3	i heard about something like that
04:21:09	midknight2k3	ill keep my eyes open
04:22:26	midknight2k3	here it is
04:22:29	midknight2k3	on barnes and noble
04:23:00	midknight2k3	is that the one you read?
04:24:19	MT	And Lo! Denis Ritchie came down from the mountain with 10 stone slabs, and spake to the people "I have written the bible, and it is good. Thou shalt read The C Programming Language, by K&R, for it is blessed and sacred amongst all others"
04:26:11	midknight2k3	shure
04:26:23	midknight2k3	if hardeep read that, and hardeep is this hardeep here, i want it!
04:26:31	MT	erm
04:26:33	hardeep	er
04:26:38	MT	those guys wrote and designed C
04:26:42	midknight2k3	i know that
04:26:43	MT	it IS the bible
04:26:45	midknight2k3	stoopid
04:27:05	midknight2k3	i'm just saying, hardeep is the best rockbox coder i know
04:27:15	midknight2k3	i want that book
04:27:35	MT	no offence to hardeep, but do you know Linus? ;p
04:28:07	midknight2k3	i do
04:28:14	midknight2k3	he's just too busy i guess
04:28:36	midknight2k3	hardeep is always around to help, and always helps as quick and as good as possible
04:28:57	midknight2k3	hardeep: i'll be back in 10 minutes okay?
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04:40:42	midknight2k3	any progress?
04:41:39	Plugh	no
04:41:42	Plugh	it's broken
04:41:52	midknight2k3	quiet
04:42:40	midknight2k3	hardeep?
04:43:07	Plugh	mid is ignoring me
04:43:18	midknight2k3	shut UP
04:43:19	Plugh	but he can't ignore the DING forever
04:43:23	midknight2k3	i cant oo
04:43:26	Plugh	eh mid?
04:43:28	midknight2k3	stereo = off
04:43:32	midknight2k3	i cant hear any ding
04:43:44	midknight2k3	OHHHHHHHHHHh
04:43:45	midknight2k3	oooohh
04:43:47	midknight2k3	ooooooooooooohhh
04:43:59	midknight2k3	plugh shuts up a sec to think of a comeback
04:44:03	midknight2k3	midknight2k3 waits
04:44:57	hardeep	midknight2k3: there's a bunch of work that needs to be done to get this vu_meter to properly update while a track is playing
04:45:06	midknight2k3	rats
04:45:12	Plugh	talking to my wife. She's prettier than you
04:45:15	midknight2k3	how long would it take?
04:45:18	midknight2k3	i bet she is
04:45:32	hardeep	midknight2k3: if i have time i'll take a look at it later
04:45:43	midknight2k3	oh well
04:45:50	midknight2k3	thx anyways
04:49:49	midknight2k3	\/(_) \|\/\|ETE\|2
04:49:50	midknight2k3	\|3Y \|\/\|\|\|)\|<\|\\|\|(-/\|-\|T 2\|<3
04:49:50	midknight2k3	___________________
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04:49:57	midknight2k3	��
04:50:31	midknight2k3	hardeep: there is no simple solution to just get it to keep updating?
04:55:00	midknight2k3	no loop function or anything?
04:57:51	midknight2k3	i guess that's a no
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05:00:20	midknight2k3	i got it to move further
05:00:28	midknight2k3	just not constantly
05:02:24	midknight2k3	oh well
05:02:28	midknight2k3	thanks hardeep
05:02:31	midknight2k3	goodnight
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22:36:38	MT	hmm
22:36:47	MT	theres a duff subscriber on the mailing list
22:36:54	yeft	whaa?
22:37:07	MT	im getting undeliverable messages from messages i send to the list
22:37:36	MT	vanbaren _AT_ falcon DOT si DOT com
22:38:28	yeft	geniuses
22:39:35	MT	looks like a badly configured procmail
22:45:43	yeft	i hate aool
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22:48:20	uski	hi :)
22:48:47	uski	got a small question; can the spdif output of the MAs of the recorders be used "easily" (= simply by connecting a jack to it) ?
22:48:54	uski	or does it need the firmware to be modified ?
22:52:28	uski	(yea, another question that nobody can't answer)
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23:05:52	[IDC]Dragon	'evening!
23:07:42	[IDC]Dragon	uski, you can just use S/PDIF from the jack, no software influence on this.
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23:12:14	[IDC]Dragon	Hi Zagor, how's life?
23:12:34	Zagor	oh, pretty good. i'm actually about to merge our oldest patch!
23:12:45	[IDC]Dragon	which is?
23:12:50	[IDC]Dragon	bookmarking?
23:13:02	Zagor	no, the .rockbox browse code
23:13:27	[IDC]Dragon	I've never really looked into the patches.
23:30:34	Zagor	it's been pretty embarassing. this patch is 11 months old...
23:30:47	Zagor	at least the first version of it
23:31:30	[IDC]Dragon	from the description, it's not really a killer to me.
23:31:45	[IDC]Dragon	maybe more menu clutter...
23:32:10	Zagor	no it's not a biggie. but a good expansion, and it means we finally remove the plugins from the menus and go fully dynamic
23:32:45	[IDC]Dragon	that indeed is a good point.
23:35:00	Zagor	umm, so why didn't i remove those? ;)
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23:45:17	Zagor	goodnight!
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23:49:03	NSi	Is there a specific reason why Bookmarking has not been merged into the main release?
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23:49:51	Zagor	mainly because it's a huge patch that needs some harmonisation work before applying.
23:49:51	NSi	I've seen merging of that patch mentioned as early as October 2002 and it still hasn't been done, I guess there must be a problem with it?
23:50:01	NSi	Ah I see
23:50:19	Zagor	just for one, it completely hijacks the f3 screen. without even removing the old code.
23:50:25	NSi	Didn't realize it was huge. I just think it's such an insanely useful feature
23:50:35	Zagor	i agree. i'm looking at it right now.
23:51:19	NSi	Wow I hadn't even realized it takes over F3
23:51:26	NSi	You're right..
23:51:55	scott666	which patch are we talking about?
23:52:00	Zagor	bookmarks
23:52:02	scott666	ahh
23:52:02	NSi	I'd rather have bookmarking though, I have it flashed into my FMR :)
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23:52:28	track	Hello
23:52:37	scott666	any news on .rockbox browsing getting added?
23:52:52	Zagor	scott666: i just added it
23:53:10	scott666	really? sweet
23:53:17	Zagor	yup. see the front page :)
23:53:41	track	what does it do?
23:54:21	Zagor	NSi: well maybe it's the right choice, but unfortunately it's the wrong implementation. which means i have to spend a lot of time modifying it. which is why it hasn't been merged yet. time is always scarce.
23:55:48	track	what does rockbox browsing do?
23:56:15	Zagor	track: adds menu items that lists the contents of the .rockbox directory, category by category
23:56:22	track	cool
23:56:48	NSi	I see. Thanksfor the info Zagor
23:56:59	NSi	I can see it's a but buggy
23:57:05	NSi	but = bit
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23:57:32	NSi	But I can't give it up once I've had it
23:58:07	NSi	Im just happy it's available as a patch :)

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