| 00:07:06 | Kamayaka | and happy with it :) |
| 00:07:24 | Plugh | I wish I could be nothing |
| 00:07:33 | Plugh | but still have my house, car, and paid bills |
| 00:08:14 | Kamayaka | my house, my wife, my horse, my yacht, my ... |
| 00:08:14 | Plugh | anyone using iTunes with their Archos? |
| 00:08:46 | Plugh | oh yeah. Wouldn't mind keeping my wife in the deal either. But I usually don't list her with my property |
| 00:09:04 | Kamayaka | :) |
| 00:13:09 | Plugh | ok. I'm probably going to regret this |
| 00:13:17 | Plugh | adding my archos to iTunes |
| 00:13:54 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: http://linus.haxx.se/recv2/internal_rom_0000-FFFF.bin |
| 00:14:27 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: http://linus.haxx.se/recv2/internal_rom_2000000-203FFFF.bin |
| 00:14:36 | Plugh | though I could probably eliminate any dupes between my work HD and my archos, considering I have all this backed up at home |
| 00:14:40 | [IDC]Dragon | That was quick, thanks! |
| 00:14:48 | LinusN | you're welcome |
| 00:17:19 | [IDC]Dragon | standard boot ROM, good. |
| 00:19:37 | [IDC]Dragon | the loader is different. |
| 00:20:15 | Kamayaka | n8 |
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| 00:25:20 | Dogger | what boot rom is this for? |
| 00:25:50 | LinusN | Dogger: it's the boot rom for the new Recorder Version 2 |
| 00:26:02 | Dogger | o ok, cool |
| 00:26:29 | [IDC]Dragon | It can probably be flashed like a standard FM, I can't see why not. |
| 00:26:42 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: i suspected that |
| 00:26:52 | scott666 | is that the one that won't load ajbrec.ajzs? |
| 00:27:14 | LinusN | scott666: wouldn't |
| 00:27:18 | [IDC]Dragon | Their 2nd level loader is different, but I wipe that anyway. |
| 00:27:32 | LinusN | scott666: it does now |
| 00:27:39 | scott666 | ahh, ok |
| 00:28:01 | LinusN | with a slight tweak in the scramble tool |
| 00:28:55 | LinusN | scott666: the really funny part is that it has the fm radio mounted |
| 00:29:11 | LinusN | so it's an fm recorder sold as a regular recorder |
| 00:29:13 | [IDC]Dragon | Does the FM accept that changes scramble format as well? |
| 00:29:22 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: haven't tried |
| 00:29:29 | LinusN | maybe i should |
| 00:29:30 | Dogger | how different is the scramble format? |
| 00:29:54 | [IDC]Dragon | Would be nice, else we need a new column just for that byte. |
| 00:29:57 | LinusN | Dogger: only one byte in the header differs |
| 00:30:04 | Dogger | ah ok |
| 00:30:07 | scott666 | oooh, right, that was the one that sold the FM tuner as a plug-in |
| 00:30:15 | scott666 | heh |
| 00:30:19 | LinusN | i guess that is the point of changing the header |
| 00:30:28 | MT | theres a guy on ebay that sells instructions of how to install rockbox |
| 00:30:35 | LinusN | so that you don't load the wrong firmware by mistake |
| 00:30:38 | MT | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2761426137&category=166 |
| 00:30:41 | Dogger | nothing major like the AVs and the gmini |
| 00:30:54 | LinusN | not at all |
| 00:32:11 | scott666 | MTt: that's hilarious |
| 00:32:25 | Dogger | people sell air on ebay |
| 00:32:36 | Dogger | people sell anything on there |
| 00:32:51 | Dogger | if there are people stupid enough to buy that stuff, good luck to the sellers |
| 00:32:52 | scott666 | thats not as bad as the xbox boxes |
| 00:34:58 | MT | im still trying to buy a replacement archos :/ |
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| 00:37:23 | BoD[] | hedlloo! |
| 00:37:32 | LinusN | yo |
| 00:37:51 | BoD[] | sava? |
| 00:38:01 | LinusN | ca va bien merci |
| 00:38:12 | BoD[] | :) what's new ? |
| 00:38:34 | LinusN | not much, we discovered that the new V2 recorder is in fact an fm recorder |
| 00:38:51 | LinusN | with the radio disabled in the archos firmware |
| 00:38:58 | BoD[] | !!! |
| 00:39:11 | BoD[] | i wasn't aware that they were a v2 recorder |
| 00:39:32 | BoD[] | but the fact that the radio is disabled is funny :) |
| 00:40:12 | LinusN | future v2 recorders will probably be without fm |
| 00:40:16 | MT | you know anywhere in the eu that stocks this contraptions? |
| 00:40:29 | LinusN | no idea |
| 00:42:21 | Dogger | MT: stock what? |
| 00:42:37 | BoD[] | it's like the ipods that can record, but apple just didn't code it in the first firmwares |
| 00:42:49 | MT | these new style recorders |
| 00:43:14 | Dogger | lazy programmers |
| 00:43:25 | MT | unrealistic managers :) |
| 00:43:28 | Dogger | programmers are never good enough to fully exploit the cool hardware |
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| 00:43:31 | BoD[] | :) |
| 00:43:44 | scott666 | its not that they're lazy, its that they want to sell you a feature you should already have |
| 00:43:55 | Dogger | if programmers were still coding on 386's, they would probably code so well, they would be faster than modern cpus |
| 00:44:02 | Dogger | ok exageration, but you get my point |
| 00:44:32 | Dogger | scott666: like the new archos plugins |
| 00:44:48 | Dogger | where they charge you extra to enable the firmware to do things with the hardware you bought! |
| 00:44:51 | Dogger | thats such a con |
| 00:44:55 | scott666 | precisely |
| 00:45:17 | Dogger | if I buy hardware, I expect to be able to use it without having to pay money for rubbish software |
| 00:45:26 | scott666 | especially since i already own a normal FMR that's exactly the same thing |
| 00:50:51 | LinusN | the recorder v2 doesn't have the plugin crap |
| 00:51:05 | LinusN | you are confusing it with the gmini |
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| 01:00:11 | BoD[] | btw i found a job :) |
| 01:01:06 | BoD[] | holidays are over :( |
| 01:03:14 | LinusN | poor you :-) |
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| 01:04:09 | BoD[] | ahaha :) |
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| 01:20:06 | billytwowilly | can anyone tell me if the dell dj is supported under linux? |
| 01:20:20 | billytwowilly | I've been googling for the past couple minutes and I'm coming up dry. |
| 01:20:50 | LinusN | i have no idea |
| 01:22:04 | billytwowilly | I have a feeling that is going to be most people's response;) sweet looking and sounding mp3 player though. |
| 01:24:05 | BoD[] | dell, the computer vendor, makes an mp3 player ? |
| 01:25:52 | billytwowilly | yah, looks like an ipod killer |
| 01:25:57 | billytwowilly | it comes out tommorrow |
| 01:26:05 | BoD[] | nice:) do you have an url? |
| 01:26:21 | Plugh | someone got it to run for 22+ hours on a charge |
| 01:26:49 | billytwowilly | http://www.delldjsite.com/forums/index.php?s=&act=Tutorials&CODE=03&ID=10 |
| 01:27:27 | billytwowilly | apparently the 15 gig model is 70 bucks less expensive than the 10 gig ipod and the 20 gig model is 100 bucks less expensive than the 20 gig ipod. |
| 01:28:18 | billytwowilly | nice upgrade for my archos 6 gig mp3 jukebox;) |
| 01:28:25 | billytwowilly | if it works with linux.. |
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| 01:30:28 | Plugh | billytwowilly: since it's a USB 2.0 device usable as a 20gig external hard drive, I suspect it would work under Linux as well as the Archos |
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| 01:31:12 | billytwowilly | yah, but apparently the mp3s don't show up unless it's transferred with the included software.. so there's probably some database somewhere in it that you have to muck with to get it to work. |
| 01:32:31 | Plugh | that'd be fucking lame |
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| 01:32:51 | billytwowilly | I agree. |
| 01:32:58 | Plugh | everyone keeps talking up mmjb |
| 01:33:04 | Plugh | I think it's a POS |
| 01:33:25 | billytwowilly | I hope it's not like that because my archos 6 gig is on its last legs.. it keeps freezing when I walk with it. |
| 01:33:35 | scott666 | i like the idea of it, but i'm sure the firmware is equal to the rest of what archos puts out |
| 01:33:54 | Plugh | have you looked at replacing the drive? |
| 01:34:16 | Plugh | scott666: Archos made the Dell toy? |
| 01:34:43 | scott666 | oh, sorry i came late, all i heard was mmjb |
| 01:34:57 | Plugh | oh. music match jukebox |
| 01:35:01 | billytwowilly | Plugh: You think it's the hard drive? |
| 01:35:09 | Plugh | billy: probably |
| 01:35:14 | scott666 | ahhh, thought you meant multi-media |
| 01:35:34 | Plugh | http://www.delldjsite.com/forums/index.php?s=&act=Tutorials&CODE=03&ID=10 |
| 01:35:45 | billytwowilly | heh. it is a fujitsu drive.. I have no idea how to do that, but I'll look into it. I suppose there's something on the website for rockbox right? |
| 01:35:47 | Plugh | looks like it might be database-driven |
| 01:35:58 | Plugh | billytwowilly: pricewatch.com |
| 01:36:13 | Plugh | and you can find info on replacing it on rockbox.haxx.se |
| 01:36:33 | Plugh | it's a lot cheaper than a new unit |
| 01:36:41 | Plugh | and you can upgrade your drive space |
| 01:36:49 | billytwowilly | yah, but I'd have to know how to solder right? |
| 01:37:05 | Plugh | no serious soldering |
| 01:37:08 | Plugh | no components |
| 01:37:12 | Plugh | just the shielding |
| 01:37:25 | Plugh | it can be sloppy |
| 01:37:33 | billytwowilly | heh. I'd have to buy a soldering gun;) |
| 01:37:40 | billytwowilly | or get my cousin to help me out. |
| 01:37:43 | Plugh | $5 |
| 01:38:06 | billytwowilly | it doesn't die when it freezes though, it just stops playing music but the screen stays on. |
| 01:38:31 | Plugh | the only thing you might need would be a 2.5" to 3.5" IDE adapter |
| 01:39:01 | scott666 | that would be an RLD |
| 01:39:09 | billytwowilly | oh. because I'd have to plug the drives into my computer to muck about with the drive right? I think I remember reading tomshardware doing a drive upgrade a long long time ago. |
| 01:39:17 | Plugh | you need to format it |
| 01:40:00 | billytwowilly | yah. I think I can do that. |
| 01:40:11 | billytwowilly | takes a normal 2.5" laptop hard drive right? |
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| 01:40:16 | Plugh | yeah |
| 01:40:24 | billytwowilly | ok, thanks. I'll look into it. |
| 01:40:27 | Neurosupherot | hello |
| 01:40:33 | LinusN | hi |
| 01:40:48 | scott666 | hey |
| 01:42:16 | billytwowilly | heh, I can get a 20 gig laptop hardrive for 150 bucks canadian.. this might be worthwhile afterall. with the rockbox firmware the thing actually works well. |
| 01:42:16 | Plugh | yo |
| 01:42:56 | LinusN | billytwowilly: make sure it is 9mm thick and not 12 |
| 01:45:16 | scott666 | yeah that dell player definitely looks horrible |
| 01:48:06 | Neurosupherot | im am very interressed by the rockbox os but iam a noob |
| 01:48:29 | Neurosupherot | the source is a .gz |
| 01:48:44 | Neurosupherot | with what can we open it? |
| 01:49:13 | LinusN | Neurosupherot: do you really want the source? |
| 01:49:36 | Neurosupherot | i havnt my archos yet^^ |
| 01:49:54 | Neurosupherot | but i read the rockbox site |
| 01:50:03 | LinusN | winzip can open .tar.gz archives |
| 01:50:10 | Neurosupherot | ok |
| 01:50:21 | Neurosupherot | what is the language? |
| 01:50:23 | Neurosupherot | c++? |
| 01:50:27 | LinusN | C |
| 01:50:34 | Neurosupherot | and |
| 01:50:41 | scott666 | assembler? |
| 01:51:08 | Neurosupherot | at the boot, there is an picture ROCKBOX |
| 01:51:13 | scott666 | or was that and indicating youre going to ask another question? |
| 01:51:14 | Neurosupherot | can we modify it? |
| 01:51:19 | LinusN | Neurosupherot: yes |
| 01:51:24 | Neurosupherot | ok |
| 01:51:26 | Neurosupherot | thx:) |
| 01:51:32 | Neurosupherot | thats cool! |
| 01:54:01 | Neurosupherot | whe must have cygwin to convert the .gz to .ajz? |
| 01:54:04 | [IDC]Dragon | Goodnight! |
| 01:54:10 | Neurosupherot | (S) |
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| 01:57:14 | Neurosupherot | rockbox-2.0\uisimulator\x11\archos |
| 01:57:20 | Neurosupherot | this is the logo at the boot? |
| 01:58:38 | Neurosupherot | and, the source we can download is the source for the last version on rockbox? |
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| 02:04:40 | LinusN | Neurosupherot: the source for the latest version is found under the "daily build" section |
| 02:05:27 | Neurosupherot | ok:) |
| 02:05:57 | Neurosupherot | i must go |
| 02:06:04 | Neurosupherot | rockbox powaa! |
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| 02:07:11 | Plugh | heh. I just sent a zinger to the mailing list ;) |
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| 02:13:48 | LinusN | time to sleep, nite all |
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| 03:02:11 | Plugh | hm, I'm actually starting to appreciate the concept of id3 tags, playlists, etc |
| 03:02:26 | GEM | Hmm. My mmjb seems to time out and shut down as a USB drive - is this expected behavior? |
| 03:02:42 | Plugh | I've always sorted music by album under genre. Used directory structure |
| 03:03:08 | Plugh | GEM: the person you need to talk to just left 15 mins ago |
| 03:03:16 | GEM | Plugh: Oh well |
| 03:03:20 | Plugh | the rest of us don't use the multimedia |
| 03:03:33 | GEM | Plugh: how do the ID3 tags make your life easier? I don't know much about them yet |
| 03:03:36 | Plugh | this is an mp3 device discussion group |
| 03:03:44 | GEM | WHo is it that uses the multimedia? |
| 03:03:46 | Plugh | I'm using iTunes |
| 03:03:49 | Plugh | Dogger |
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| 03:03:57 | Plugh | he's cracked the encryption on it |
| 03:04:13 | Plugh | and is starting to work on a replacement firmware |
| 03:04:14 | GEM | I did not know that there was encryption on it - I am new to it |
| 03:04:21 | GEM | Ahh, got you |
| 03:05:00 | GEM | I am aware that rockbox is not available for the MMJB, and I know about what the project is - I figured that a few mostly general Archos type questions are reasonable |
| 03:05:08 | Plugh | anyhow, with id3 tags you can organize music by genre, album, artist, or if you have the info, year of publication |
| 03:05:12 | GEM | If I am wrong, please don't hesitate to tell me. |
| 03:06:20 | Plugh | we're a fairly diverse group with a broad range of knowledge. You can probably get your question answered here. But most of the devs are kinda frosty toward requests for multimedia info |
| 03:06:50 | GEM | I have not been able to find a similar place for the multimedia, so I started here |
| 03:07:18 | GEM | I actually wanted the device primarily for recording live music at science fiction conventions |
| 03:07:20 | Plugh | there's some forums out there. I don't remember the names. |
| 03:07:43 | Plugh | I got mine to record DJ sets off my and friends' mixer boards |
| 03:07:48 | GEM | when investigating,was able to get the mmjb not much more expensively than a regular jukebox, so went for it |
| 03:08:47 | Plugh | I actually had a multimedia in my hand and opted for the mp3 |
| 03:08:57 | GEM | Why so? |
| 03:08:59 | Plugh | and I didn't know about rockbox at the time |
| 03:09:08 | Plugh | I thought I wanted FM |
| 03:09:21 | Plugh | turned out it sucks so bad that it's not worth it |
| 03:09:21 | GEM | Ah. and you turned out not to? |
| 03:09:54 | GEM | I get a lot of hum when I record from my mmjb with a mic attached - do you know if that happens on the jb? |
| 03:10:10 | Plugh | the mic picks up the vibration of the hard drive |
| 03:10:41 | GEM | Hmm. Even if the cod is stretched about as far as I can away from the unit? That's not fair |
| 03:10:53 | Plugh | some people make mic to line level converters. And Archos sells an external mic that helps |
| 03:12:14 | GEM | I was hoping to avoid buying their mic, but I will if I ned to |
| 03:12:52 | Plugh | I'd see about getting access to line out on the mixer board |
| 03:13:03 | Plugh | you'll get a nice signal out of that |
| 03:13:53 | GEM | Some of that is feasible, but sometimes it is not - we often don't have a sound board where I am |
| 03:14:31 | Plugh | I understand. Check around the net for a converter from your mic output to a line level. |
| 03:14:41 | Plugh | it'll be cheaper than the Archos mic |
| 03:15:23 | Plugh | and if you want, you can get a good XLR mic with the pickup pattern you want |
| 03:15:28 | Plugh | or even a lavolier |
| 03:15:29 | Plugh | :) |
| 03:19:14 | Plugh | I've heard good things about the Archos mic, but I can imagine much better |
| 03:22:10 | GEM | Cool - thanks! |
| 03:22:54 | Plugh | this is really time consuming. I've got 16 days of music on my archos |
| 03:23:09 | Plugh | and trying to get all my music properly tagged so it's better in iTunes |
| 03:31:34 | GEM | What kind of tools do you use for tagging files? and where can I learn more about ID3 stuff? |
| 03:32:41 | Plugh | I'm using iTunes |
| 03:32:45 | Plugh | it's free and it rocks |
| 03:33:59 | Plugh | you can sort music by fields in column mode and tag blocks of files at a time |
| 03:34:23 | Plugh | the only thing it doesn't do is sort music by directory location on the drive, which would be perfect for me |
| 03:35:00 | GEM | is iTunes Mac-only? |
| 03:35:10 | Plugh | not anymore |
| 03:43:13 | GEM | OK. |
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| 07:50:56 | Dogger | hey all |
| 07:53:02 | hardeep | hi |
| 07:54:38 | dwihno | Hello! :) |
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| 09:10:03 | Dogger | dont archos' debug messages fill you with confidence |
| 09:10:24 | Dogger | '__ TIME WEIRD! __' |
| 09:10:56 | Dogger | __FIXME1__ |
| 09:11:06 | dwihno | Debug messages? |
| 09:11:10 | Dogger | yep |
| 09:11:12 | dwihno | You found evil stuff? :) |
| 09:11:14 | Dogger | looking at AV firmware |
| 09:11:16 | dwihno | The AVOS? |
| 09:11:21 | Dogger | yes |
| 09:11:26 | dwihno | How far have you come? |
| 09:11:32 | Dogger | almost finished unpacker |
| 09:11:39 | Dogger | packer is done |
| 09:11:55 | Dogger | well - a packer that works is done, a packer that compresses isn't done |
| 09:15:35 | Dogger | they put far 2 much debug code in |
| 09:15:36 | Dogger | check this |
| 09:15:54 | Dogger | 'modifying *(menu[pos].var) @ add 0x' |
| 09:16:14 | dwihno | Cool! |
| 09:16:17 | dwihno | You rule! |
| 09:16:26 | Dogger | thanks |
| 09:16:31 | dwihno | AVOS to the people! |
| 09:16:33 | Dogger | it's not trivial to crack encryption and compression |
| 09:16:43 | dwihno | Nah, it's a pain in the ***. |
| 09:16:44 | Dogger | but I am king of the hackers ;) |
| 09:16:49 | Dogger | tell me about it lol |
| 09:17:02 | Dogger | but they are not exactly good at writing secure code |
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| 09:17:56 | Dogger | lol more debug messages |
| 09:17:59 | Dogger | __OOPS__ |
| 09:18:40 | edx | lolol |
| 09:19:12 | dwihno | WB, Linus! |
| 09:20:06 | dwihno | Dogger: How good is the performance of the AV? |
| 09:20:15 | Dogger | the hardware is excelent |
| 09:20:20 | Dogger | the firmware is crap |
| 09:20:27 | dwihno | In what way? |
| 09:20:30 | dwihno | Buggy? Slow? |
| 09:20:33 | Dogger | its ok, |
| 09:20:37 | dwihno | Crash tendency? |
| 09:20:39 | Dogger | its not really buggy, |
| 09:20:45 | Dogger | it's just the least possible |
| 09:20:53 | Dogger | it's nothing to go 'wow' about |
| 09:20:56 | dwihno | Ah |
| 09:20:59 | Dogger | the hardware is 'wow' |
| 09:21:06 | Dogger | the firmware is 'oh..' |
| 09:21:09 | dwihno | Fishy batteries? |
| 09:21:21 | dwihno | How many hours do you get from a single charge? |
| 09:21:23 | Dogger | battery life on my av340 is excellent |
| 09:21:30 | Dogger | 10+ hours playing mp3s |
| 09:21:36 | Dogger | 5+ hours playing movies |
| 09:22:29 | dwihno | What kind of batteries? |
| 09:22:36 | Dogger | proprietory |
| 09:22:45 | Dogger | pics on avos.sf.net/pictures.html |
| 09:23:14 | Dogger | ermmm interesting, the av firmware has 'TouchScreen' in it |
| 09:23:27 | Dogger | I heard somewhere they were thinking of making it touchscreen to start with, |
| 09:24:06 | dwihno | proprietory batts sucks! :( |
| 09:24:14 | Dogger | true, |
| 09:24:23 | Dogger | but I havent had any battery problems so far |
| 09:24:32 | Dogger | hahahahah |
| 09:24:34 | Dogger | classic |
| 09:24:44 | Dogger | debug message in av3xx firmware from archos: |
| 09:24:48 | Dogger | '__SHIT !!!' |
| 09:24:55 | dwihno | :-D |
| 09:24:57 | dwihno | Cool! |
| 09:24:59 | Dogger | I love looking at other peoples lamer code |
| 09:25:13 | Dogger | wow '−−EEPROM buffer dump−−' |
| 09:26:14 | Dogger | 'ARCHOS JUKEBOX Multimedia (c) 99-03 A.Kurpiers, V. Pantelic DEBUG UART_1 Oct 10 20 11:00:04 DSC25' |
| 09:26:26 | Dogger | I need a serial cable to do debug ;) |
| 09:26:38 | dwihno | How was it encrypted? |
| 09:26:44 | Dogger | lamer encryption |
| 09:27:04 | Dogger | but better than mp3 encryption (rockbox scramble) |
| 09:27:35 | LinusN | Vladimir Pantelic is a subscriber of the Rockbox mailing list |
| 09:27:36 | Dogger | I'll post everything once I'm finished the unpacker |
| 09:27:41 | Dogger | lol |
| 09:27:47 | dwihno | Linus: He is?! :O |
| 09:27:48 | Dogger | that explains his encryption key! |
| 09:27:56 | Dogger | VLADMIR1 was one of the keys |
| 09:28:11 | Dogger | tell him first rule of anything - don't use ur name as a key |
| 09:28:13 | Dogger | twat |
| 09:28:14 | LinusN | dwihno: since very long |
| 09:28:17 | * | dwihno senses lots of hacker enthusiasm |
| 09:29:10 | Dogger | bingo! |
| 09:29:17 | Dogger | '_SERIAL_LOAD_FAILED' |
| 09:29:23 | Dogger | thats how you do a forced update |
| 09:29:26 | Dogger | serial cable |
| 09:31:00 | Dogger | 'TouchScreen I2C ERROR' |
| 09:31:09 | Dogger | damn shame they didnt do touchscreen :( *sob* |
| 09:32:17 | dwihno | Linus: You knew who he was? |
| 09:33:17 | LinusN | he has been with us for a long time |
| 09:33:27 | Dogger | tell him his coding sucks |
| 09:33:29 | LinusN | you see his name everywhere |
| 09:33:40 | LinusN | in the mp3o for instance |
| 09:34:10 | dwihno | mp3o? |
| 09:34:28 | dwihno | C3PO's friend? |
| 09:35:11 | Dogger | anyone know what a JIS font is? |
| 09:35:24 | LinusN | jis? sounds japanese |
| 09:35:29 | Dogger | perhaps using 'uni2wchar' ? |
| 09:35:54 | Dogger | sure... was hoping it described the file format |
| 09:36:28 | LinusN | only the encoding |
| 09:37:11 | Dogger | this code is lame! |
| 09:37:26 | Dogger | found some more passwords in it in plain text |
| 09:37:56 | dwihno | Dogger: how was the image encrypted? |
| 09:39:20 | Dogger | dwihno: I will post all my findings along with a packer/unpacker when I'm done |
| 09:39:25 | Dogger | should be a couple of days now |
| 09:39:32 | Dogger | but the encryption was a lamer xor |
| 09:39:42 | Dogger | the compression is slightly more complex |
| 09:39:49 | Dogger | but am about half way thru cracking that |
| 09:40:30 | Dogger | have written a cool decryptor/encryptor.... it even works out the encryption key itself |
| 09:40:43 | dwihno | Dogger: cool! :) |
| 09:41:04 | Dogger | kindof helps when lamers use plaintext as an encryption key |
| 09:41:56 | Dogger | but then its easy for me to pick apart other peoples software |
| 09:42:04 | Dogger | I might not like people picking holes in mine :) |
| 09:44:13 | dwihno | You're a master locksmith! |
| 09:44:22 | dwihno | RockAVOS! ;D |
| 09:44:25 | Dogger | I kindof do this for a living :) |
| 09:44:38 | dwihno | You dp? |
| 09:44:45 | dwihno | What is your profession? |
| 09:44:50 | Dogger | am glad finaly avos will be able to do stuff now |
| 09:45:08 | Dogger | developing software for the purposes of interoperability with other software/protocols :) |
| 09:45:12 | dwihno | What kind of special hardware does the AVOS have? |
| 09:45:25 | dwihno | \o/ development \o/ |
| 09:45:40 | Dogger | tms320dsc25 does most stuff |
| 09:45:50 | Dogger | osd, pal/ntsc, memory card readers, |
| 09:45:58 | Dogger | divx encoding/decoding, |
| 09:46:02 | Dogger | jpg decoding |
| 09:46:10 | dwihno | Neato |
| 09:46:13 | dwihno | How fast is the decoding? |
| 09:46:19 | Dogger | then it has an ATA/ATAPI/USB2 bridge chip, |
| 09:46:23 | Dogger | 16meg ram, |
| 09:46:43 | Dogger | not sure how fast it is.... obviously it can play big movies at 30fps, |
| 09:46:50 | dwihno | Cool! :D |
| 09:46:58 | dwihno | Perfect for long road trips! :) |
| 09:47:03 | Dogger | yeah |
| 09:47:08 | Dogger | I got it for my flights |
| 09:47:18 | Dogger | I fly UK->california twice a month at the moment |
| 09:47:27 | Dogger | 10 hours is a long time to be bored :) |
| 09:48:09 | dwihno | Heh. True. |
| 09:48:18 | dwihno | Too bad the batteries are non-standard. I hate that :( |
| 09:48:27 | Dogger | yeah that is a bit of a pain |
| 09:48:37 | Dogger | and they say 'designed to last the life of your archos' |
| 09:48:41 | Dogger | errr yeah right |
| 09:48:55 | dwihno | I mean, whenever they want to, they'll just stop providing the batteries and your unit will become useless |
| 09:48:57 | Dogger | since when did batteries last that long |
| 09:49:06 | Dogger | true |
| 09:49:17 | Dogger | I better get my hands on some spares :) |
| 09:50:25 | dwihno | I've upgraded my batteries once for my recorder. |
| 09:50:30 | dwihno | I hate custom batteries. |
| 09:59:44 | Dogger | may be able to find out who makes the batteries, |
| 09:59:56 | Dogger | they may use same batteries for something else as well |
| 09:59:58 | dwihno | Still a noon. |
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| 10:00:00 | dwihno | nono. |
| 10:00:12 | Dogger | ? |
| 10:01:34 | dwihno | Custom batteries will be the death of all cool gizmos. |
| 10:01:53 | Dogger | batteries suck |
| 10:02:02 | Dogger | as if they havent come up with something better |
| 10:02:12 | Dogger | they just dont tell us so we keep buying crap batteries |
| 10:02:58 | dwihno | indeed |
| 10:03:45 | Dogger | off2bed |
| 10:03:48 | Dogger | laters :) |
| 10:04:14 | dwihno | later. congrats, once again. |
| 10:04:26 | Dogger | thanks :) it's going well now... |
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| 13:25:24 | quelsaruk | morning... |
| 13:31:19 | quelsaruk | seems like no-one's alive today |
| 13:31:30 | LinusN | i am |
| 13:32:04 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 13:32:23 | quelsaruk | LinusN, did you read my message yesterday? |
| 13:33:36 | LinusN | something about translations? |
| 13:33:52 | quelsaruk | yups :) |
| 13:35:12 | LinusN | i don't remember your question though... :-) |
| 13:35:30 | quelsaruk | hehe |
| 13:37:26 | quelsaruk | i just said that as i'm still without internet (nor even computer at home) i can't update languages patches, so if you don't mind..could you check that for me?? pleeeease :) |
| 13:39:22 | LinusN | you mean check if the spanish language file needs updating? |
| 13:39:28 | quelsaruk | nonononono |
| 13:39:38 | quelsaruk | the patches sent to the patch tracker |
| 13:39:47 | quelsaruk | and that are still open |
| 13:40:01 | quelsaruk | check if they work and include them into the code |
| 13:40:17 | quelsaruk | i'd do it, but without computer, is very difficult |
| 13:41:29 | LinusN | oh, i see |
| 13:41:53 | quelsaruk | ummm.. i must go, lunch time. See you another day!! |
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| 15:57:37 | dsg | btw... anyone know who committed the Icelandic translation? |
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| 16:12:11 | Plugh | lemme look |
| 16:12:50 | Plugh | islenska? |
| 16:13:17 | Plugh | revision 1.1 |
| 16:13:18 | Plugh | date: 2003/09/14 11:43:50; author: bagder; state: Exp; |
| 16:13:18 | Plugh | Richard OBrien's initial Icelandic lang file |
| 16:30:55 | dsg | Hmh... k. |
| 16:31:17 | * | dsg thinking of updating it... |
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| 17:03:33 | Jan | hi |
| 17:03:50 | Plugh | hello |
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| 17:04:51 | Jan | got a question 4 ya |
| 17:04:58 | Plugh | so ask it |
| 17:05:16 | Plugh | we're not formal. You don't need to ask permission to ask a question |
| 17:05:19 | Jan | i don't know if i can flash my recorder |
| 17:05:31 | Jan | but i liked to ;) |
| 17:05:50 | Jan | how do i know it's flashable? |
| 17:06:15 | Jan | the documentation is too confusing |
| 17:06:25 | Plugh | look under the debug menu. I think there's a pair of double bytes that identify the flash rom |
| 17:06:34 | Plugh | if there's numbers there, it can be flashed |
| 17:06:41 | Plugh | if it's ?? ??, it can't |
| 17:07:13 | Jan | it says "flash: M=?? D=??" and "ROM CRC: 0x222F v1" |
| 17:07:41 | Jan | so it can't? |
| 17:07:43 | dsg | Jan: No. |
| 17:08:14 | Plugh | sorry. That one can't be flashed |
| 17:08:40 | Jan | damn |
| 17:09:06 | Plugh | Dragon has been doing a lot of work on flash, but hasn't gotten that far yet |
| 17:09:17 | Plugh | you'll need to replace the chip I think |
| 17:09:38 | Jan | dragon wrote something to the mailing list, that made me think it probably could be flashable... |
| 17:09:42 | Plugh | very geeky and techie, and not very easy even if you are |
| 17:10:32 | Plugh | yeah he responded to you on the list |
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| 17:10:41 | Plugh | Since you don't have the proper chip, you can't flash it, regardless what |
| 17:10:42 | Plugh | software comes along. You would have to exchange it. |
| 17:10:42 | Plugh | The boot ROM is diagnosed with the ROM CRC line in the same screen. I have |
| 17:10:42 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Plugh |
| 17:10:42 | Plugh | to update it to say "no ROM" instead of V2 when ROM space is identical to |
| 17:10:42 | Plugh | flash space, that was my error. The only known boot ROM has CRC 0x222F. |
| 17:11:08 | Jan | i couldn't even open my recorder, because i'm lacking the right tool ;) |
| 17:11:22 | Jan | so what is a "boot ROM"? |
| 17:11:40 | Plugh | bootstrap code for the CPU |
| 17:12:21 | Plugh | loads the barest essentials to start the process of loading the flash or firmware off the drive |
| 17:13:51 | Jan | so I don't know why he mentioned this thing... |
| 17:14:10 | Plugh | looked like you mentioned it |
| 17:14:31 | Plugh | oh I'm mistaken |
| 17:14:34 | Plugh | you didn't |
| 17:14:56 | Plugh | you mentioned ROM |
| 17:15:08 | Plugh | I guess he took that into account in his answer |
| 17:15:59 | Jan | ok, thx |
| 17:17:49 | Jan | bye then |
| 17:17:54 | Jan | unsubscribe |
| 17:17:56 | Jan | *lol* |
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| 18:51:01 | [IDC]Dragon | Hi! |
| 18:51:19 | [IDC]Dragon | uski, do you read? |
| 18:52:45 | [IDC]Dragon | (seems not) |
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| 18:59:25 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: hey there, I just wanted to say great work on the flashing stuff. |
| 18:59:31 | elinenbe | Hospital |
| 18:59:31 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) |
| 18:59:31 | elinenbe | Frankford |
| 18:59:31 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK elinenbe |
| 18:59:31 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) |
| 18:59:32 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) |
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| 18:59:42 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) |
| 18:59:44 | elinenbe | Christiana |
| 18:59:46 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) |
| 18:59:48 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) |
| 18:59:50 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (TJUH) |
| 18:59:52 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (TJUH) |
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| 19:00:04 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (TJUH) |
| 19:00:06 | elinenbe | St. Joseph's (Reading) |
| 19:00:08 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (TJUH) |
| 19:00:10 | elinenbe | Mass Gen - Boston |
| 19:00:12 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (TJUH) |
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| 19:00:16 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) |
| 19:00:18 | elinenbe | TJUH |
| 19:00:20 | elinenbe | Episcopal |
| 19:00:22 | elinenbe | Virtua Mem Hosp of Burlington Co |
| 19:00:24 | elinenbe | Underwood Memorial Hospital |
| 19:00:26 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) |
| 19:00:28 | elinenbe | Centre Community |
| 19:00:30 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) |
| 19:00:32 | elinenbe | Geisinger |
| 19:00:34 | elinenbe | Hahnemann |
| 19:00:36 | elinenbe | Temple/Lower Bucks Hosp |
| 19:00:38 | elinenbe | St. Joseph's (Reading) |
| 19:00:40 | [IDC]Dragon | elinenbe: Thank you. (and you can stop flooding ;-) |
| 19:00:40 | elinenbe | HUP |
| 19:00:42 | elinenbe | Temple |
| 19:00:44 | elinenbe | HUP |
| 19:00:46 | elinenbe | Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) |
| 19:00:48 | elinenbe | Trenton Mercer |
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| 19:01:48 | [IDC]Dragon | Ctrl-C ? |
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| 19:02:43 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: yeah.... |
| 19:03:03 | [IDC]Dragon | Once I posted a cooking recipe here by having the wrong stuff in clipboard. |
| 19:03:17 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: it is impressive that you put in a lot of time on something that did not affect you at all... that's nice. |
| 19:03:46 | [IDC]Dragon | Tell that to my girlfriend... |
| 19:04:09 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: what I was wondering was could you make it so, you could flash an ajz directly from the archos? so, the plug-in would do the work of compress, etc? |
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| 19:04:57 | [IDC]Dragon | Theoretically yes, but it needs time and space to compress. |
| 19:05:24 | [IDC]Dragon | UCL is pretty established now. |
| 19:07:01 | elinenbe | that's true. |
| 19:07:21 | [IDC]Dragon | Plus, you can "play" it. For .ajz, rolo kicks in. |
| 19:07:48 | [IDC]Dragon | ucl may even save some bandwidth on the haxx server. |
| 19:08:10 | JunkeyWRK | hello all. quick question, has anyone reported the archos turning on by itself with the rockbox software installed? i've caught it turning on by itself a few times and frequently find the player out of juice (probably because it turned itself on and never shut off). the last build i got is probably a few weeks old. i've checked the wakeup alarm but it doesnt seem to be set, unless im not reading it right. any ideas? |
| 19:08:41 | [IDC]Dragon | Sounds like a hardware problem. |
| 19:08:52 | JunkeyWRK | hrm |
| 19:08:57 | [IDC]Dragon | Software can't turn it on, afaik. |
| 19:09:14 | JunkeyWRK | really? what does the wakeup alarm do then? |
| 19:09:24 | JunkeyWRK | hrmm |
| 19:09:30 | [IDC]Dragon | One guy made a mod to change this, so the RTC can wake it up. |
| 19:09:43 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 19:10:25 | [IDC]Dragon | Is the wakeup in the normal build? |
| 19:10:36 | JunkeyWRK | dunno, this is a daily build |
| 19:10:49 | JunkeyWRK | a few weeks old, tho |
| 19:11:25 | [IDC]Dragon | do you have an FM? |
| 19:11:40 | elinenbe | there should be no wakeup alarm in the daily build −− at least not for the player or recorder. |
| 19:11:46 | JunkeyWRK | yes, fm |
| 19:11:53 | [IDC]Dragon | Ah. |
| 19:11:57 | JunkeyWRK | sorry, shouldve said that |
| 19:12:33 | [IDC]Dragon | So it seems FMs can do the trick. Didn't know that. |
| 19:13:23 | JunkeyWRK | trick? you mean turning itself on? |
| 19:13:30 | JunkeyWRK | hmm...lemme test it |
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| 19:13:48 | [IDC]Dragon|away | afk, sorry. |
| 19:19:42 | LinusN | JunkeyWRK: yes, the Fm model has a wake-up alarm function |
| 19:20:20 | JunkeyWRK | is it functioning or is there a bug? |
| 19:21:09 | JunkeyWRK | i was just trying a test...i was playing something, then i set the wake up time to a few minutes from the time i started playing. it started to shut itself down but just froze there |
| 19:22:14 | LinusN | is it connected to the charger? |
| 19:23:14 | JunkeyWRK | yes, i just disconnected it and it shut off |
| 19:23:30 | LinusN | btw, don't mix up the sleep timer and the wake-up alarm |
| 19:23:38 | JunkeyWRK | right |
| 19:23:43 | JunkeyWRK | now i set the wake up time to a few minutes from now |
| 19:23:59 | JunkeyWRK | i think you have to stop playing music to set the wake up time and have it shut down properly |
| 19:24:29 | LinusN | i don't think so, |
| 19:24:53 | JunkeyWRK | well...im just telling you what happened based on the test i just did. i can try it again later |
| 19:25:05 | JunkeyWRK | something tells me if there's a valid time in that parameter it's going to wake up and start playing |
| 19:25:16 | JunkeyWRK | but there's no off parameter for that function |
| 19:25:41 | JunkeyWRK | unless 00:00 is the off time, but that's valid really, midnight |
| 19:29:52 | | Quit hardeep ("[BX] For a good time, call 1-900-4BitchX") |
| 19:32:09 | | Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|brb (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
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| 19:49:05 | JunkeyWRK | what is "Car adapter mode" |
| 19:55:36 | elinenbe | JunkeyWRK: that is a setting that will make the jukebox turn on if it receives a charge. |
| 19:55:36 | elinenbe | so, if you have it plugged into your car it turns on and off with the car! |
| 19:55:43 | elinenbe | that way you can have a jukebox just for your car |
| 19:57:26 | JunkeyWRK | ah, that's cool :) |
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| 20:23:53 | elinenbe | hardeep: any news from the playlist viewing world? |
| 20:26:13 | hardeep | elinenbe: i just got back from vacation, haven't touched anything rockbox related in a while |
| 20:27:52 | uski | [IDC]Dragon|away: yes, i read |
| 20:35:56 | uski | if you want to know why i cazn't flash, it is because i have a stupid SST37 chip... |
| 20:36:04 | uski | not because i don't have a boot rom |
| 20:36:08 | uski | (unfortunately...) |
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| 20:48:39 | track | hello |
| 20:48:50 | Plugh | hi |
| 20:48:52 | track | I have an idea for the Rockbox website |
| 20:49:07 | uski | which is ? |
| 20:49:21 | track | How about a way you can trade custom sound configs or custom WPS's? |
| 20:49:31 | track | Ive made new 3 sound configs on my Archos |
| 20:49:49 | uski | hmm |
| 20:49:53 | uski | interesting |
| 20:50:10 | track | My 3 sound presets are Flat, Techno and Auditoriu, |
| 20:50:14 | track | Auditorium |
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| 21:00:23 | | Join Kamayaka [0] (Kamayaka@pD9EBEE4C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:00:29 | Kamayaka | morning |
| 21:04:16 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:09:53 | | Nick [IDC]Dragon|away is now known as [IDC]Dragon (~idc-drago@pD9FF8281.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:10:22 | [IDC]Dragon | uski, I'd like to refer you to Kamayaka. |
| 21:10:56 | uski | yes |
| 21:11:30 | [IDC]Dragon | He's the future source of flash chip! ;-) |
| 21:12:12 | uski | oooo :) |
| 21:12:17 | uski | interesting ;) |
| 21:12:39 | [IDC]Dragon | and he's lot listenung right now... |
| 21:12:42 | [IDC]Dragon | not |
| 21:12:48 | [IDC]Dragon | listening |
| 21:13:00 | uski | yea |
| 21:13:26 | Kamayaka | well, just tried to get worms working on my xp, giving up :) listening now |
| 21:13:38 | [IDC]Dragon | Kamayaka, your posting about the chips hasn't made it to the group, right? |
| 21:13:43 | Kamayaka | did anybody get my mail to the mailinglist ? |
| 21:13:51 | Kamayaka | well, seems not :\ |
| 21:14:05 | Plugh | did you post on the unsubscribe thread? |
| 21:14:12 | Kamayaka | nope |
| 21:14:24 | Plugh | ok, then there's a chance... |
| 21:14:49 | uski | someday i posted something on the mailling list and it never appeared |
| 21:15:07 | [IDC]Dragon | It always has worked for me. |
| 21:15:17 | uski | i don't doubt of it :) |
| 21:15:30 | Kamayaka | usik, if you need such a chip just drop me a mail to rockbox@riewel.de if there are enough ppl i´m going to order the 30 peaces |
| 21:15:43 | [IDC]Dragon | Sorry, I have to leave again for a while, please help Kamayaka posting. |
| 21:15:46 | Kamayaka | usik -ik +ki = uski (sorry for that) |
| 21:16:14 | uski | ;) |
| 21:16:25 | uski | Kamayaka: what would be the price ? |
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| 21:16:36 | uski | also, is there a way to get 8mb DRAM ? |
| 21:16:37 | Kamayaka | 2038003EUR :) |
| 21:16:40 | uski | lol ;) |
| 21:16:59 | Plugh | I think I'll buy a new one |
| 21:17:01 | Plugh | ;) |
| 21:17:01 | Kamayaka | i asked for the flash, the 8mb dram i´ve bought at bimex half a year ago |
| 21:17:12 | uski | bimex = ? |
| 21:17:19 | uski | another shop that sells it for 50$ ? |
| 21:17:47 | Kamayaka | www.strixner-holzinger.de offered me 30 SST39VF020-90 for 3.25 + tax (germany 16%) no shipping i can go there |
| 21:17:50 | uski | (knowing the usual price of such chips i can't buy one at this price...) |
| 21:18:00 | uski | hmmm |
| 21:18:03 | Kamayaka | EUR |
| 21:18:07 | uski | what about SST39VF040 ? |
| 21:18:13 | Kamayaka | no idea didn´t ask |
| 21:18:18 | uski | if we're going to change the chip, why not putting a bigger one |
| 21:18:24 | uski | as the pcb is prepared for it |
| 21:18:39 | uski | ([IDC]Dragon|away will confirm) |
| 21:18:45 | Kamayaka | don´t think it will get cheaper, but i can ask i´ve there enough ppl |
| 21:19:26 | uski | a SST39VF040 will be some more expensive but it is interesting |
| 21:20:18 | Kamayaka | dunno if rockbox will get larger than 2mb :) only 0.5% of the rockbox users will have the 4mb then.. whom is going to develop features only working on that few rockboxes ? |
| 21:20:37 | uski | it canb e itneresting for devel |
| 21:20:46 | Kamayaka | hrhr :) |
| 21:20:50 | uski | also, we might store plugins for example in the flash |
| 21:20:52 | uski | and so on |
| 21:21:02 | uski | if im going to change, i think i would try to get the 040 chip |
| 21:21:17 | uski | (yea i know, i always want more than others lol) |
| 21:21:24 | uski | you should ask them for this chip |
| 21:21:46 | Kamayaka | if there are enough ppl, we have 3 ppl in need of 4 chips or do you want more than 1 ? :) |
| 21:22:07 | uski | hmmm if it is the 040 chip, ye |
| 21:22:09 | uski | s |
| 21:22:16 | uski | if it is the 020, perhaps 2 but not more |
| 21:22:40 | Kamayaka | okay, just drop me a mail and i´ll note down your adress |
| 21:22:47 | uski | but let's wait for [IDC]Dragon|away, just to be sure the PCB is prepared.. |
| 21:25:14 | Kamayaka | if i write to the e-mail list... i need to write with the e-mail adress i subscribed to the list ? |
| 21:25:23 | uski | yes |
| 21:25:29 | uski | (i think) |
| 21:25:48 | Kamayaka | going to check this (no idea what has happend yesterday) |
| 21:25:58 | uski | Note: The list is only open for subscribers. You can not send mail to this list without being subscribed to it! |
| 21:26:02 | uski | :) |
| 21:28:07 | Kamayaka | well i think i need to get rid of 100 different e-mail accounts, but don´t want to use my main e-mailadress for such a mailing list... |
| 21:28:21 | uski | heh yea i also have this problem |
| 21:28:35 | uski | i open one email addr for everything |
| 21:28:40 | uski | so now i have 1000 aliases |
| 21:28:54 | uski | now i created a "general", a "trash bin" alias that i use everywhere |
| 21:34:12 | Kamayaka | anybody in here who can build me a 8mb release mine is round about 3 month old... |
| 21:34:29 | uski | grab it from the daily builds |
| 21:35:08 | uski | http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml |
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| 21:36:22 | yeft | yooo |
| 21:36:25 | Kamayaka | is there an 8mb version or does the rockbox itself determines the amount of mem ? |
| 21:36:26 | yeft | what up |
| 21:36:31 | uski | hmmm |
| 21:36:33 | yeft | anyone in here speak russian???? |
| 21:36:36 | uski | take the 8mb version |
| 21:36:59 | uski | but if i remember this feature is int the TODO list... |
| 21:37:42 | Kamayaka | well... |
| 21:37:43 | Kamayaka | 2003-10-27 18:20:00 1 5 1 5 5 1 1 5 5 |
| 21:37:50 | Kamayaka | yellow are warnings ? |
| 21:38:29 | uski | yea |
| 21:38:30 | uski | for you: |
| 21:38:32 | uski | drivers/fat.c:1277: warning: `rc' might be used uninitialized in this function |
| 21:38:58 | Kamayaka | well i would love to get these kind of warnings at work :) |
| 21:41:27 | uski | lol |
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| 21:46:09 | Kamayaka | i got your mail uski... |
| 21:47:50 | uski | ok ;) |
| 21:47:58 | uski | Kamayaka: see ur private messages windows please |
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| 21:50:42 | | Nick [IDC]Dragon|away is now known as [IDC]Dragon (~idc-drago@pD9FF8281.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:54:33 | [IDC]Dragon | About the 040 chip: I don't know if all PCBs are prepared for it, mine was. |
| 21:55:01 | [IDC]Dragon | If not, it would be just 1 wire to the CPU. |
| 21:55:05 | uski | hmmm |
| 21:55:07 | uski | ok |
| 21:55:11 | uski | of |
| 21:55:15 | uski | it will be 100% compatible ? |
| 21:55:26 | [IDC]Dragon | But I still don't know what to do with the rest of it. |
| 21:55:29 | uski | i mean, if you put a 040 on a pcb for a 020 |
| 21:55:54 | uski | plenty of things ! you can put multiple firmwares, put the rocks on it, ... |
| 21:56:05 | [IDC]Dragon | It is "compatible", because the footprint is the same and my tools are made for it, since I have that chip. |
| 21:56:08 | uski | you might even consider storing some mp3 data to use the archos as a dictaphone |
| 21:56:22 | uski | ok then a 040 is good |
| 21:56:44 | Kamayaka | uski, you could solder two 020 :) |
| 21:56:50 | [IDC]Dragon | Maybe a mp3 menu guidance would be nice, for blind people or car usage. |
| 21:57:09 | Kamayaka | rofl |
| 21:57:17 | uski | yea exactly |
| 21:57:18 | Kamayaka | next stop play button |
| 21:57:24 | uski | so the hdd does not have to start when you browse it |
| 21:57:33 | uski | you will always find an use for more space... |
| 21:57:44 | uski | and it would be very bad to have an occasion to put a 040 and to lose it |
| 21:57:54 | uski | as it is 100% compatible, ... |
| 21:58:06 | [IDC]Dragon | I did it because it was the same effort. |
| 21:58:53 | [IDC]Dragon | But I doubt there will be a practical use since it's so incompatible to the rest of the world. |
| 21:59:23 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm able to hold the 2 images uncompressed. |
| 21:59:44 | uski | yea |
| 21:59:55 | [IDC]Dragon | But this is also no benefit, starts earlier to wait longer for the HD. |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:26 | [IDC]Dragon | andwe're talking about 0.3 seconds or so here. |
| 22:00:28 | Kamayaka | :) |
| 22:01:01 | Kamayaka | okay, the mail is out |
| 22:01:14 | Kamayaka | drop me a line if it´s in your mailbox... |
| 22:02:07 | uski | i think Kamayaka should really ask for 040 chips |
| 22:02:14 | uski | now, he does what he wants to do... |
| 22:02:28 | scott666 | my FMR is dying :-( |
| 22:02:32 | uski | why ? |
| 22:02:35 | uski | whats the prob with it ? |
| 22:02:41 | Plugh | suckage |
| 22:02:47 | Plugh | if mine died I'd mourn it |
| 22:02:59 | scott666 | F2 and F3 are broken, and you have to mess with the headphone jack to get both channels |
| 22:03:06 | uski | ooo it is easy to change ! |
| 22:03:10 | uski | not a problem :! |
| 22:03:16 | Kamayaka | uski, i will ask for the 040 but only if i get at least 15 ppl in need of any flash chip |
| 22:03:18 | Plugh | my headphone jack is starting to crackle a bit |
| 22:03:23 | uski | btw i am about to get some replacment buttons in high quantity |
| 22:03:39 | scott666 | how are you pulling that off? |
| 22:03:40 | Plugh | it's only a problem when I've got it strapped to my belt while biking |
| 22:03:41 | uski | i will probably be able to "sell" some news buttons |
| 22:03:56 | Kamayaka | a "news" button ? :) |
| 22:03:59 | | Quit track ("Leaving") |
| 22:04:04 | uski | oops |
| 22:04:07 | scott666 | aren't they like glued on? |
| 22:04:10 | uski | "some new buttons" |
| 22:04:13 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 48 minutes at the last flood |
| 22:04:13 | * | Kamayaka slaps uski around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:04:15 | * | Kamayaka hides |
| 22:04:28 | * | uski finds Kamayaka, takes out his gun and fires. |
| 22:04:31 | scott666 | its so easy to tell the mIRC uses |
| 22:04:31 | * | uski BANG BANG |
| 22:04:37 | uski | scott666: yea ;) |
| 22:04:46 | scott666 | *users |
| 22:05:25 | * | Kamayaka blood splatters all over the desk including the charging rockbox |
| 22:05:59 | * | uski goes away, trying not to get blood on his clothes |
| 22:06:30 | Kamayaka | dna will get you |
| 22:06:55 | Kamayaka | and whom will buy the VF020 chips now ? |
| 22:07:14 | uski | try to replace them with 040 |
| 22:07:21 | uski | as it is fully compatible ! |
| 22:07:27 | Kamayaka | jupp |
| 22:07:27 | uski | the price should not change a lot |
| 22:08:27 | Kamayaka | anybody got my mail ? |
| 22:08:36 | uski | wait some minutes ;) |
| 22:11:35 | Plugh | not yet Kam |
| 22:12:46 | Kamayaka | seems as if i´m too stupid to write to this mailing list... |
| 22:13:06 | Plugh | the mailing list has terrible lag |
| 22:13:08 | | Part JunkeyWRK |
| 22:13:11 | scott666 | as long as the subject wasnt 'unsubscribe' |
| 22:13:15 | Plugh | check the web archive to see if it went out |
| 22:14:46 | Kamayaka | nope :( |
| 22:14:55 | Kamayaka | can anybody write to the list in my name ? |
| 22:16:22 | [IDC]Dragon | I could, but would prefer if you can sort it out. |
| 22:17:07 | Kamayaka | dropped the mail to 'rockbox@cool.haxx.se' from the subscripted e-mail account but nothin happens... (not even an error answer ...) |
| 22:17:28 | [IDC]Dragon | There will be no answer. |
| 22:18:07 | Kamayaka | going to try it with express newsreader |
| 22:18:36 | Plugh | if it's not in the online archive then it never made it |
| 22:18:40 | [IDC]Dragon | Are you shure you properly subscribed with that mail account? |
| 22:18:58 | [IDC]Dragon | If so, it should receive ~50 emails per day. |
| 22:19:03 | Plugh | send a message with 'help' in the body to majordomo@cool.haxx.se |
| 22:19:04 | Kamayaka | −− |
| 22:19:04 | Kamayaka | >>>> subscribe rockbox |
| 22:19:04 | Kamayaka | Succeeded. |
| 22:19:04 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Kamayaka |
| 22:19:04 | Kamayaka | >>>> |
| 22:19:04 | Kamayaka | >>>> |
| 22:19:11 | Plugh | okay |
| 22:19:13 | Plugh | that's good |
| 22:20:56 | [IDC]Dragon | The drawback of th group is that you can't post without subscribing, and you can't be subscribed without gettingthe full stream of posts emailed. |
| 22:21:16 | [IDC]Dragon | That's why I used my spam account. |
| 22:21:35 | Kamayaka | i get huge amounts of email... |
| 22:21:36 | [IDC]Dragon | Which I now have to use a lot, to answer and post. |
| 22:21:54 | [IDC]Dragon | This is why I'm [IDC]Dragon here. |
| 22:22:11 | [IDC]Dragon | Not Jörg Hohesohn. |
| 22:22:30 | Kamayaka | jööarg |
| 22:22:35 | [IDC]Dragon | Hohensohn, too stupid to type his own name. |
| 22:22:55 | Kamayaka | mail is there |
| 22:25:13 | [IDC]Dragon | Hooray! |
| 22:26:31 | [IDC]Dragon | If you organize a soldering service, there will be many takers, I guess. |
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| 22:28:54 | Kamayaka | crap game :( |
| 22:29:01 | Kamayaka | re |
| 22:35:26 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, time to say goodnight. |
| 22:35:33 | Kamayaka | n8 |
| 22:35:44 | [IDC]Dragon | Kamayaka, thanks for your effort with th chips! |
| 22:36:10 | [IDC]Dragon | You must be almost as desperate to flash as I was. |
| 22:36:46 | Kamayaka | jupp :) |
| 22:37:07 | Kamayaka | but the main reason is i´m a soldering iron fetischist... |
| 22:37:16 | Kamayaka | *g* |
| 22:37:31 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, I'll check the log later. |
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| 22:38:48 | Kamayaka | i´m leaving as well duo to extrem headage... |
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| 22:40:43 | maff | lo all |
| 22:43:57 | scott666 | hey |
| 22:44:18 | maff | help: my JBR20 wont charge at all. THe charging screen appears, but the JBR just sits drainging the batteries |
| 22:44:38 | scott666 | flashed? |
| 22:44:59 | scott666 | oh, you might have the deep discharge option on |
| 22:45:43 | maff | erm, its just got a new install of rockbox on (just unzipped to the drive), and thats it....so default settings |
| 22:46:14 | scott666 | i suggest looking through the faqs on the rockbox page |
| 22:46:59 | maff | hmm ive done that quite extensively, and cant find anyone with the same problem. |
| 22:47:17 | uski | maff did you wait after plugging in the charger ? |
| 22:47:25 | uski | some times it takes some time to start charging |
| 22:47:36 | maff | sorry, wait for what? i plugged it in, and pressed on |
| 22:48:34 | uski | wait some minutes |
| 22:48:38 | uski | like 5-10mn |
| 22:49:02 | maff | sorry, i should plug the charger in and then not press anything? |
| 22:52:11 | maff | . |
| 22:53:19 | uski | yea |
| 22:53:46 | maff | hmm whats the reasoning behind that? Is there a seperate Rockbox charging screen? |
| 22:53:59 | Plugh | yes |
| 22:54:37 | maff | hmm OK. Ill give it a try, but its been plugged in 5 minutes and hasnt done anything. Is there any way to initiate the rockbox charging screen manually? |
| 22:54:44 | uski | only when you plugin the charger when the archos is OFF |
| 22:54:46 | Plugh | nope |
| 22:54:55 | maff | :( |
| 22:55:10 | uski | Plugh: the screen does not show when I plug the charger and my archos is already powered on |
| 22:55:35 | Plugh | I dunno much about charging probs. I just know there's a charging screen |
| 22:55:55 | maff | <mine doesnt seem to want to find it!!> |
| 22:56:12 | uski | it is not a problem |
| 22:56:26 | uski | maff: turn on your archos, withtout the charger plugged in |
| 22:56:31 | uski | then, plug in the charger |
| 22:56:38 | uski | does a small plug appear next to the battery icon ? |
| 22:57:18 | maff | yes i think so (although my batteries are too flat to double check) |
| 22:57:26 | uski | hmm |
| 22:57:35 | maff | but yes it does |
| 22:57:37 | uski | ok |
| 22:57:42 | uski | so ur charger is not dead |
| 22:57:47 | uski | so, when you plug in the charger |
| 22:57:49 | maff | yup |
| 22:57:50 | uski | what does the archos do ? |
| 22:58:33 | maff | if i plug the charger in, and press on, i get the ARCHOS Jukebox charging screen......Then after a few mintues, this will disappear as the batteries run out (i guess) |
| 22:58:50 | uski | hmmm |
| 22:58:55 | uski | did you try with another battery set ? |
| 22:59:15 | maff | these are new 2300 NiMH's |
| 22:59:30 | uski | is rockbox configured to use 2300mAh batteries ? |
| 22:59:36 | uski | i think the charging mode is different |
| 22:59:44 | uski | higher capacity batteries requires a higher charging current |
| 22:59:45 | maff | yup |
| 22:59:52 | uski | ok.. |
| 22:59:58 | uski | eally strange ! |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:10 | uski | do you have something to test the voltage accross the batteries when unplugged ? |
| 23:00:19 | uski | should be no less than 1.0V |
| 23:00:29 | uski | a discharged battery is 1.0V, a fully charged is 1.2V |
| 23:01:02 | scott666 | uski: no. the battery mah is only used in calculating the time remaining |
| 23:01:13 | uski | scott666: ok. |
| 23:01:18 | maff | If i take the batteries out, and charge them in a wall charger, they power the JBR fine for a couple of days, then they conk ok |
| 23:01:32 | uski | ok |
| 23:01:33 | uski | strange ! |
| 23:01:45 | maff | this seems to indicate some error with the charging circuit to me? |
| 23:02:21 | uski | yea |
| 23:02:28 | uski | but try with other batteries to be sure |
| 23:02:38 | maff | the batteries are fine, for sure |
| 23:02:41 | uski | if it does not work with other batteries, you should use ur warranty |
| 23:02:45 | uski | yes but, juste to be sure... |
| 23:02:57 | uski | after all, the circuit of ur wall charger is different than the one in the archos |
| 23:03:13 | maff | i dont have a warranty - it was an eBay purchase |
| 23:03:18 | uski | (i know, it SHOULD work, but it is better to be sure there is a problem in the archos) |
| 23:03:19 | uski | lol |
| 23:03:21 | uski | ... |
| 23:03:55 | maff | This is rendering my JBR utterly useless :( |
| 23:04:17 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:05:11 | uski | that's why i NEVER buy this kind of products from ebay |
| 23:05:18 | uski | ok, it is cheaper, but if i can't use them.. |
| 23:05:26 | uski | anyway, do you have some electronic skills ? |
| 23:05:41 | maff | a little yes |
| 23:08:55 | uski | so you could open ur archos and try to see if there is not something burnt |
| 23:09:32 | maff | i would, but im not sure what to use to undo the screws on the side! They look like weird alan keys |
| 23:09:58 | maff | ach! i really should read the site more |
| 23:10:13 | maff | Torx screws....right ill try unscrewing and see what i can see |
| 23:10:19 | uski | yea |
| 23:10:20 | uski | torx |
| 23:10:22 | uski | probably T9 |
| 23:10:24 | uski | wait i check |
| 23:10:57 | uski | yea, it is T9 |
| 23:11:05 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:11:05 | * | uski is proud of having guessed it |
| 23:11:07 | uski | ;) |
| 23:11:37 | maff | :) |
| 23:11:52 | maff | cheers for the help.I dont know exactly what ill spot, but it cant hurt to look |
| 23:12:21 | uski | yea |
| 23:12:32 | uski | don't be violent and you wont break anything |
| 23:12:39 | maff | :) |
| 23:12:47 | uski | this kind of problem can be easy to solve, as it can be a real nightmare |
| 23:12:50 | uski | there is a part of luck here... |
| 23:13:01 | uski | also check that your charger is giving enough "energy" |
| 23:13:03 | maff | :) i hope its on my side |
| 23:13:12 | uski | = a good voltage, when you take power from it |
| 23:13:27 | uski | the voltage might be good when run "empty", but if you put a charge it might drop to some volts |
| 23:14:01 | maff | how do i find that? its a radioshack type affair, switchable voltage (3-12 volts), 1200Ma Max, switchable polarity |
| 23:26:40 | uski | aaaah ! |
| 23:26:45 | uski | it is not the original charger ? |
| 23:27:05 | uski | what voltage do you use when you plug in to your archos ? |
| 23:27:37 | maff | erm 9V? |
| 23:27:54 | LinusN|brb | 9v should be ok |
| 23:28:01 | | Nick LinusN|brb is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:29:46 | LinusN | you could try 12 if you want |
| 23:30:03 | LinusN | if you dare :-) |
| 23:30:21 | maff | i have done in the past, and it madew no difference |
| 23:31:09 | LinusN | you recorder might be damaged |
| 23:31:26 | elinenbe | LinusN: how is the pre-buffered recording coming? |
| 23:31:37 | LinusN | elinenbe: haven't worked on it for a while |
| 23:32:08 | elinenbe | LinusN: it seems development on Rockbox has slowed significantly from a few months ago... |
| 23:32:17 | LinusN | true |
| 23:32:31 | LinusN | bagder, zagor and me have been very busy |
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| 23:32:53 | LinusN | i'm still very busy... :-) |
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| 23:57:07 | track | hellos |
| 23:57:47 | uski | also |
| 23:57:48 | uski | erm |
| 23:57:55 | uski | there are no more a lot of things to do |
| 23:58:02 | uski | i know it is not good to say this but... |
| 23:58:14 | track | hi linusN |
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