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#rockbox log for 2003-10-31

00:00:06Mine78I found the way to add a dir to playlist but not to play it directly
00:00:19xamflashed?
00:00:51Mine78I flashed the rockbox rom with the 2-bios-procedure (original and modified)
00:01:17diddystar5is the v2 good?
00:01:20Mine78u can use the one u prefere (the mod one is extremely faster)
00:01:25Mine78Yes it is !
00:01:27Mine78No problems !
00:01:29Mine78At all
00:01:34Mine78No hangs
00:01:36Mine78nothing
00:01:36diddystar5does it have FM?
00:01:39Mine78no
00:01:48Mine78it's a recorder with 1.28 rom inside
00:01:56Mine78if u want I can send u the rom dump
00:02:00diddystar5i wonder if they fixed all the button problems the FM's had
00:02:52Mine78I would like to hack the archos movie player bios
00:02:57diddystar5thats weird since people were saying on funmp3players that the firmware in the v2 is totaly differn't
00:02:57Mine78hope that someone will
00:03:16diddystar5are you talking about the av 320?
00:03:25Mine78yes the av320
00:03:33diddystar5someone is trying
00:03:33Mine78the av series
00:03:36Mine78who ?
00:03:38diddystar5join channle #avos
00:03:46Mine78is there a site ?
00:03:52diddystar5yes one sec
00:04:17Mine78thanks !!!
00:04:31Mine78I hope I will buy one for my university graduating
00:05:05diddystar5http://avos.sourceforge.net/
00:05:58Mine78THANK YOU SO MUCH !
00:06:28xamso what to do to use the newest version? just download and and extract the daily 'full' archive? what about my current config? will it be overwritten?
00:06:47xamand what is the 'ucl' ?
00:07:07Mine78to avoid config to be overwritten hit f1 and choose "make config file". A .cfg file will be created
00:07:16Mine78than simply play it to restore your configs
00:07:37Mine78ucl are files used to update the modified rom into the archos rom
00:07:37diddystar5xam: you need to flash the bootloader first http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html
00:09:16Mine78one moment: my "configuration" menu is empty
00:09:17Mine78why ?
00:09:49diddystar5because you have no .cfg files in /.rockbox/
00:11:04 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@p50861EF1.dip.t-dialin.net)
00:11:12diddystar5hey IDC
00:11:20[IDC]Dragonhi there
00:12:06xamwell, the problem is that it says you have to have a recorder (or FM), and that it should have a flash chip. you can figure that out in the debug menu. unfortunately I can figure that out, since there is no entry for the flash chip in the hardware info page
00:12:44diddystar5because 2.0 dosent have it
00:13:04diddystar5get a .ajz file on the daily page for you unit
00:13:18xamcan't I just install the lastest ajz and run it as usual?
00:13:19diddystar5then it will be there
00:13:24xamokay ...
00:13:41xamso why should I flash it then (except that it loads faster?)
00:13:56[IDC]Dragondiddystar5: consulting another flash customer?
00:14:14diddystar5{IDC}Dragon: yep
00:14:19[IDC]DragonThanks.
00:14:52diddystar5i mean [IDC]Dragon lol jirc dosent do the cool tab thing
00:16:39diddystar5[IDC]Dragon: a few weeks ago when you added the faster rolo, i remember in firmware/bitswap.S, .align 4 was changed to .align 2 and that wasnt changed when you added it does it have any impact?
00:16:51Mine78Will "delete directory" option be added ?
00:17:03diddystar5Mine78: i would hope
00:17:06[IDC]Dragondiddystar5: that was on purpose.
00:17:21[IDC]DragonBut a sharp observation!
00:17:36diddystar5[IDC]Dragon: what does it do? i dont understand assembly at all
00:17:38Mine78to rempove that HATABLE windows dirs !!!
00:18:09[IDC]DragonThe alingment rounds up to addresses dividable by 2 res. 4
00:18:30[IDC]Dragonit has to be 2 for code,
00:18:40diddystar5ohhhh i see
00:19:18[IDC]Dragonbut 4 in this case was faster because the code was carefully layed out to exploit that the CPU fetches 4 byte at once.
00:19:24diddystar5Mine78: i would love to make a patch for that, but im not a very good coder :)
00:20:28diddystar5interesting i want to try and learn some assembly
00:21:12diddystar5i have to go
00:21:15diddystar5see you later
00:21:17Mine78I hope you will :)
00:21:23Mine78thank you diddy
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00:21:27diddystar5bye
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00:32:07xamwell, I just flashed my box ... works fine and boots faster of course ;)
00:32:46[IDC]DragonOK.
00:33:18xamnice work, rockbox team!
00:34:08[IDC]DragonThanks, you're welcome.
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00:34:43[IDC]DragonDon't forget to update the .ucl once in a while.
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00:40:28xamas I understand the .ucl is just another way to update/flash your rockbox ...
00:41:06[IDC]DragonYes, but only the Rockbox part.
00:41:18xam[IDC]Dragon: so you don't need the 'firmware_rec.bin' anymore?
00:41:42[IDC]DragonNormally not. Think about it as a "format".
00:41:50xamokay, thanks alot!
00:42:25[IDC]DragonYou need it when you want to revert back to original flash content.
00:43:04xamof course, but that's unlikely ;) I can just 'run' the archos firmware anyway, can't I ?
00:43:56[IDC]Dragonno, you need to rename it to "firmware_rec.bin"
00:44:02[IDC]Dragonor _fm
00:44:17xamyes, I can ... just tested it ;)
00:44:33[IDC]DragonAh, run, not reflash, shure.
00:45:13[IDC]DragonOr you can hold F1 while switching on.
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00:45:32thedude02hey y'all
00:45:40xamyes, I needed to make that backup of the old firmware to be able to flash it back (if needed)
00:46:07thedude02sorry to disrupt your conversation
00:46:16*thedude02 slaps thedude02 around a bit with a large trout
00:47:05*thedude02 says hi
00:47:31*thedude02 slaps Plugh around a bit with a large trout
00:47:35xamwhat does holding down F1 do? loading the ajbrec.ajz from the harddisk?
00:48:11xamit doesn't seem to do it anymore after I flashed rockbox
00:49:03xamI mean rockbox just starts from flash, and doesn't load the ajbrec.ajz from the harddisk (what the archos firmware did)
00:49:26xamso F1 reverts to the archos firmware behaviour?
00:49:33[IDC]DragonNo, it starts the first image in flash, which is the original Archos software.
00:50:28xamahh, okay ... no everything makes sense ...
00:51:07[IDC]DragonThis is your backup in case you flash a bad ucl.
00:51:44xamokay, now I understand why the docs say there will be no warning if you flash a ulc ...
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01:00:28[IDC]Dragongotta sleep...
01:00:48 Quit [IDC]Dragon ()
01:00:50xamthanks alot again, good night dragon
01:02:56thedude02 I have to do homework
01:02:59thedude02goodbye
01:03:10*thedude02 is gone\
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03:33:56midknight2k3hi
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03:44:44midknight2k3lol
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03:57:27midknight2k3YAY
03:57:31midknight2k3we have the chip8 emu
03:57:35midknight2k3thank you dragon
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03:58:09thuhey
03:58:19thuhow come there are no nightly builds on the page anymore?
03:58:35midknight2k3WE HAVE CHIP*!
03:58:38midknight2k3ahem
03:58:42midknight2k3let me check
03:58:43midknight2k3lopl
03:59:12midknight2k3Bleeding Edge?
04:00
04:00:01thuyeah
04:00:05midknight2k3its there
04:00:09thuis there anything newer than 2.0 on the page?
04:00:12midknight2k3http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml
04:00:15midknight2k3look DOWN.
04:00:16midknight2k3lol
04:01:04thubah.. too much radiation and not enough coffee
04:01:29thuthanks midknight2k3 :P
04:01:33midknight2k3np
04:01:37midknight2k3chip8 away!
04:01:41midknight2k3AWAYYY!!!!!
04:01:45midknight2k3away i say!!
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05:29:16scott666THE CHIP 8 EMULATOR GOT ADDED!!
05:29:31scott666thanks jörg, wherever you are
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05:32:42jwang815hey
05:32:44jwang815i have a question
05:32:57jwang815anyone here?
05:34:06scott666yeah
05:34:06scott666me
05:34:38jwang815i need help
05:34:43jwang815how do u get ur archos to play WMA's?
05:34:43scott666with..?
05:34:52scott666you convery the WMA to an mp3
05:34:57scott666*convert
05:35:36scott666or you rewrite the MAS (sound decoding chip) that we have no documentation for
05:35:53jwang815how do I convert from WMA to mp3?
05:36:18jwang815or how do I re-write the MAS to play WMA?
05:36:52scott666you either find a program (try google) that coverts WMAs to mp3s or wavs
05:37:19scott666if it converts to wav then you have to reencode it back to mp3
05:37:43scott666and (unless you're extremely optimistic) you can't rewrite the MAS
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05:38:22scott666fucking newbs...
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05:38:31scott666heh
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09:14:23dwihno\o/ Linus \o/
09:19:41LinusNoooo
09:20:20dwihnoHow are you?
09:21:08LinusNok, i think
09:21:15dwihnoStuff are still bad? :(
09:21:19LinusNyup
09:21:37dwihno*sigh* ... poor guy, poor lady.
09:21:37webmindmorning
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09:22:39LinusN|awaywebmind: morning
09:26:55*dwihno cheers Linus up with magic tunes.
09:27:55webmindbye linus
09:31:09MTLinus: sell me you 6gb player for 1000 SEK? ;p
09:31:17MTs/you/your/
09:31:29webmindhow much is 1000SEK ?
09:31:52MTabout $130
09:32:02webmindk
09:32:10webmindnot that bad a price then
09:32:26MTbeen trying to buy one 2nd hand for weeks
09:32:41MTpreciously traded commodity on ebay :)
09:33:10MTthey go for ~ $200
09:33:12MThmm
09:33:20MTnot doing my sales pitch very well!
09:33:49dwihnoMT: is it impossible to buy new ones?
09:34:02MTnot for that price :/
09:35:11MTbah
09:35:22MTi REALLY dont get collaboration diagrams
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13:40:12Neurosupherothi
13:40:28Neurosupherothow does the elumator for archos work?
13:40:35Neurosupherotthere is no exe
13:41:01LinusNthe win32 simulator?
13:41:09Neurosupheroteuh
13:41:11Neurosupherotyes
13:41:59LinusNit runs the rockbox code in a simulated environment, for developing without having to download the code to the jukebox
13:42:21Neurosupherotthe ajz?
13:42:27LinusNreally only interesting for developers
13:42:55LinusNyou compile the code with the native compiler, like Mingw32 or visual c++
13:42:55Neurosupherotthen how do a launch the win32 emulator?
13:43:11Neurosupherotok
13:43:13Neurosupherotthx:
13:43:25LinusNwhen the compiling is done, you have an exe file
13:46:20Neurosupherotok
13:46:21Neurosupherotand
13:46:29Neurosupherothow do we make the ajz?
13:46:56LinusNyou mean when not simulating?
13:48:10Neurosupherotuh
13:48:18Neurosupherotwith the source, make the ajz
13:48:36Neurosupherotand where can i download mingw32 or visual c++?
13:49:23LinusNfirst of all, the simulator is just a set of functions replacing the drivers in the real target
13:49:43LinusNso you compile rockbox with the native compiler
13:50:05LinusNfor that you only need a native compiler such as minw32 or VC++
13:50:24Neurosupherotare these compilers free?
13:50:42LinusNvisual c++ is a Microsoft product
13:50:47LinusNminw32 is free
13:50:50Neurosupherotok
13:50:54Neurosupherotwhere can i get it?
13:50:55LinusNwww.mingw.org
13:50:58Neurosupherottyhs:)
13:51:01Neurosupherotthx:)
13:52:18Neurosupherotis mingW-3.1.0-1
13:52:28Neurosupherot.exe the right file?
13:52:34Neurosupherotthere is a lot of files
13:53:44LinusNyes, that's the one
13:54:04LinusNyou might be better off with cygwin, when i come to think of it
13:54:21LinusNmeybe not
13:54:23LinusNmaybe
13:54:30LinusNtry mingw32 and see if it works
13:54:50Neurosupherotok:)
13:56:03Neurosupheroti create the ajz with this compiler too?
13:57:02HesNo, for that you need the cross-compiler which produces code for the SH-1 processor found in the actual player/recorder
13:58:16Neurosupheroti can download it from the rockbox site?
13:58:21LinusNi gotta go, cu l8r
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13:59:02LinusN|awayhttp://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html
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14:00:03Neurosupherotk thx
14:04:29Neurosupherotanybody here?
14:04:48Neurosupherotwhich cygwin package of cygsin must i download?
14:13:14LinusN|awaynone, if you follow the instructions on the page i gave you
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14:29:10Neurosupherotok
14:29:11Neurosupheroteuh
14:29:22Neurosupheroti am creating the tools
14:29:26Neurosupherothttp://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html
14:29:29Neurosupherotbut
14:29:35Neurosupherotit doest work
14:29:49Neurosupheroti am in the 9th
14:30:04Neurosupherot../tools/conigure
14:30:08Neurosupherotbut
14:30:24Neurosupherothe tells me that it is a directory
14:32:32LinusNok, where did you create the build dir
14:32:34LinusN?
14:32:42Neurosupheroteuh
14:33:05Neurosupherotc:\cygwin\home\rockbox\build-dir\tools\configure
14:33:18LinusNthat's the config script, yes
14:33:18Neurosupheroti created mannualy tools and configure
14:33:49LinusNthat is wrong
14:34:17Neurosupherotthen i delete tools and configure folder?
14:34:20LinusNthere is a 'tools' dir in c:\cygwin\home\rockbox, isn't it?
14:35:30Neurosupherotnot by default
14:35:33Neurosupheroti created it mannualy
14:35:46LinusNdid you check out the source?
14:35:57Neurosupherotno
14:36:06Neurosupheroti dont know how to do this
14:36:22LinusNwait a sec, you said you were at no.9 in the list
14:36:29Neurosupherotyes
14:36:44LinusNthen how come you skipped no.8?
14:36:49Neurosupherotbut i didnt check out because i do not find rb-checkout.sh:
14:37:16LinusNaha
14:37:41LinusNsee if it is in the home/rockbox/bin directory
14:38:22Neurosupherotrockbox-2.0.tar.gz>is this the siource codre?
14:38:50LinusNyes, very old
14:39:08LinusNtype this:
14:39:46LinusNcvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox
14:39:58Neurosupherotwhere?
14:40:03Neurosupherotin cygnus.bat?
14:40:14LinusNno, on the command line
14:40:34LinusNwell, you start cygwin and then type it on the command line
14:40:57Neurosupherotok
14:42:59Neurosupherotthx u very much:D
14:45:43Neurosupherotit wrote me: do u want to use demos
14:45:45Neurosupherotwhat is demos?
14:46:17LinusNshow-off things, like spinning cubes, snow effects etc
14:46:24Neurosupherotok
14:47:38Neurosupherotnormal simulatoer or debug?
14:49:32Neurosupherotand
14:49:40Neurosupherothe crated me the makefile
14:49:48Neurosupherotis it the ajz?
14:51:29LinusNno
14:51:36LinusNnow you type 'make'
14:52:48LinusNbut you gave to unpack the rockbox-tools.tar.bz2 first
14:53:46Neurosupherotok
14:54:06Neurosupherotnow there is a makefile in the buid-dir folder
14:54:57LinusNnow you type 'make'
14:56:51Neurosupherotk
14:57:05Neurosupherot:)
14:59:18Neurosupherotthere are 2 errors
14:59:31Neurosupherotmake:***[firmware] Error2
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15:00:10Neurosupherotmale[1]:***[/hoe/rockbox/buile-dir/sysfont.o] eror 255
15:00:19Neurosupherotis it normal?
15:00:39MTthat means it cant find a required program
15:00:57LinusNyou need to set up the PATH so the sh-elf-gcc can be found
15:02:12Neurosupherothow can i set it up?
15:02:19LinusNah
15:02:37LinusNdid you unpack the rockbox-tools file?
15:02:40Neurosupherotyes
15:02:44LinusNwhere?
15:02:47Neurosupherotin the tool dir?
15:02:51LinusNyes
15:03:22Neurosupherotnow yes
15:03:27LinusNtry again
15:04:09Neurosupherotnow it works thanks:)
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15:06:25Neurosupherotnow it had created the ajz isnt it?
15:06:32LinusNit should have
15:07:55Neurosupherotand now, i should be able to put the ajz in my archos?
15:09:22Neurosupherotand if i want to test it in the emulator?
15:11:44LinusNthere is no emulator
15:11:54LinusNonly a simulator build target
15:11:54Neurosupherot?
15:12:12Neurosupherotuisimulator?
15:12:19LinusNyes
15:12:29LinusNyou compile rockbox to run on the PC
15:12:29Neurosupheroti must cimpile it with cygnus?
15:12:44LinusNno
15:12:53LinusNyou can use vc++ or mingw as well
15:13:32LinusNin fact, the cygwin version you have right now can't build PC executables
15:13:52Neurosupherotoh
15:14:06Neurosupheroti have downloaded ingw
15:14:15Neurosupherotthere is a lot of .exe
15:14:28Neurosupherotwhich one must i execute to compile?
15:14:57LinusNgcc
15:15:05LinusNbut you need a makefile
15:15:23LinusNi haven't built the win32 simulator in ages
15:16:06Neurosupherotlol
15:17:57Neurosupherotdo you have the executable of the uisimulator?
15:18:09Neurosupherotif yes, can you send me it?
15:19:32MTthe uisimulator is specific to a particular build
15:19:49MTif you change anything in the source code, you need to recompile the ui simulator
15:20:00MTso swapping uisimulators is pretty pointless
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15:22:31Neurosupherotoh...
15:22:58Neurosupherotif i launch gcc
15:23:15Neurosupherota dos window appear and disappear immediatly
15:23:34webmindlol
15:23:52Neurosupherot?
15:25:45webmindwhy do you launch a program where you do not know what it does?
15:27:12Neurosupherotcuz we tell me that for make the .exe for uisimulator, i must launch gcc
15:28:11LinusNtry this
15:28:33LinusNmake a new build dir and answer "simulator"
15:28:43LinusNto the configure questions
15:29:18LinusNthen try to make using mingw
15:30:05LinusNif you want to build both simulator and target, you should probably go the hard way and install the full version of cygwin
15:30:14LinusNand build the cross compiler yourself
15:35:52Neurosupherotwhen i type make
15:36:05Neurosupheroti cant fint gcc
15:36:14Neurosupherotbut gcc is in the mingw folder
15:36:22Neurosupherotmusti i copy it?
15:43:20Neurosupherotif yes, where musti i copy the gcc?
15:43:42LinusNyou need to set up the PATH
15:44:35Neurosupherotand how? plz
15:45:25LinusNexport PATH=<path to mingw/bin>:$PATH
15:47:11Neurosupherotk thx
15:47:16LinusNgotta go again, cu
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17:27:17Neurosupherotwhen i "make" the makefile
17:27:24Neurosupherotgcc:not found
17:27:31Neurosupherotwhy?
17:27:33scott666do you have gcc installed?
17:27:39Neurosupherotuh
17:27:49Neurosupherotinstalled with mingW
17:28:06Neurosupherotthere is a gcc executable in the mingw/bin folder
17:28:14scott666hmmm
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17:29:26Neurosupheroti have two main folders:
17:29:35Neurosupherote:\minW
17:29:37Neurosupherotand
17:29:45Neurosupherotc:\cygwin
17:29:58Neurosupheroti launched cygwin.bat
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17:30:03Neurosupherotconfgure,
17:30:07Neurosupherotsimulated
17:30:11Neurosupherotand make
17:30:23Neurosupherotbut the gcc is always not found
17:30:24scott666i thnk it expects everything to be in a subdirectory of cygwin
17:30:33scott666you looked at the howtos, right?
17:30:56Neurosupheroti asked linusN how does it work
17:31:07Neurosupheroti wanna create a uisimulator executable
17:31:30Neurosupheroti already created the ajz with cygwin.bat
17:31:52Neurosupherotnow, i wanna have a preview with uisimulator
17:32:09Neurosupherotbut iv dont know how to mke it
17:32:17scott666me neither
17:32:30Neurosupherot:/
17:32:35scott666i was under the impression that the sim didnt work in with windows
17:33:48Neurosupherotthe ajz created is ready to work with the archio?
17:34:13scott666no idea
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17:36:45Neurosupherotlol
17:38:33scott666well im going back to diablo 2, l8er
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17:44:14Neurosupherotsee you
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17:48:09stridershi all
17:55:56stridersnobody :/
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18:09:58LinusN|awayhi
18:10:11stridershi
18:10:23stridersi have a problem with my archos =)
18:10:29 Nick LinusN|away is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se)
18:10:59LinusNNeurosupherot: yes, the .ajz is ready. just copy it to your archos
18:11:06LinusNstriders: shoot
18:11:43stridersin fact I have hard drive problem
18:11:53stridersand i want to make a low level format
18:12:07LinusNwhat is the problem?
18:12:07stridersbut DOS doesn't recgnize usb :/
18:12:13stridersbad cluster
18:12:16LinusNwhy DOS?
18:12:18stridersi can cipy
18:12:24striders*copy from my hard drive
18:12:26stridersto the archos
18:12:36stridersbut from the archos to the hard drive
18:12:36stridersread error
18:12:39striders:/
18:12:54LinusNwhich model?
18:13:04stridersJukebox Recorder 20 Go
18:13:19LinusNwhich windows version?
18:13:40striderswin2K sp4
18:13:56LinusNhmmm, do you have fdisk?
18:14:21stridersyes
18:14:30stridersu want me to execute fsik on the archos ?
18:14:36LinusNyes
18:14:50LinusNmaybe not
18:14:58LinusNyou could just reformat it
18:15:10stridersok
18:15:49LinusNdo you think that the hard drive is physically damaged?
18:15:54stridersyes
18:16:00stridersbut the problem it is a brand new one
18:16:03LinusNouch
18:16:07stridersi return my archos for this problem
18:16:08LinusNdid you dropit?
18:16:16stridersi receive a new one, a black one
18:16:24stridersbut some bad noise when it is copying
18:16:29striders"clac.."
18:16:37LinusNoh
18:16:38stridersbut i can read
18:16:43LinusNhow are your batteries?
18:16:51stridersthere is some physically damaged surfaces
18:16:55stridersfull they arez
18:17:00LinusNare they new?
18:17:05stridersyes
18:17:10stridersbecause it is a new one
18:17:23LinusNyou should return that one too
18:17:33LinusNyou could do a scandisk and check for bad clusters
18:18:25stridersok
18:18:31stridersi cannot retrn this one
18:18:39stridersit was garanteed only 9 days
18:18:52stridersaccording to the recipi
18:19:15stridersbut don't u think the best way to fix bad cluster is a low level format ?
18:19:51stridersi cannot execute fdisk under win2K :/
18:21:04LinusN:-(
18:21:22LinusNi'm not sure a low level format will help
18:21:49stridersok
18:22:13striderswith a soft called loformat, it seems to be able to fix bad clusters
18:22:32stridersbut the problem is : it is running only under DOS :/
18:24:11LinusNyou could buy a 2.5" <-> 3.5" IDE adapter
18:24:21stridersok
18:24:36stridersand format it by connecting it to the mother board ?
18:25:03LinusNyes
18:25:42LinusNi gotta go now, good luck
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18:27:12stridersthanx for ur time
18:27:13stridersc u
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18:31:20Kamayakaany nod and
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18:57:13Neurosupherotis there anybodyN?
18:57:26Neurosupherota wanna make the exe for th uisimulator
18:57:37Neurosupherotbut gcc miss
18:57:47Neurosupherotwhere must i copy gcc?
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19:53:53Neurosupherotwhere is the rockbox logo in the source?
19:54:33Plughit's not
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19:56:26Plughthere's directions on rockbox.haxx.se/docs for installing gcc
19:56:37Plughit comes with Linux and Cygwin
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20:00:45stridersstrange chars apears on my Archos under win2k :/
20:00:56striders. "
20:01:02striders.."
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20:50:58Mine78Chip8 emulator !!! WOWOWOOW !
20:51:08Mine78Here is a link to ALL complete CHIP8 emu romset:
20:51:10Mine78ed2k://|file|ROMS.-.Rca.Chip.8.(tosec.0.50).(0.Missing).-.AxelF6.MCSTeam.Sharereactor.ace|27215|DC51B3CC169A20C6E2EFE9EDC839A858|/
20:51:20Mine78obviously you must have emule to download
20:51:27Mine78only 30Kb ! Ace archive
20:52:09k3noMine78 Chip8 emulator ON ROCKBOX you mean?!?!
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20:52:32Mine78Yes from TODAY !!!
20:52:47Mine78I just discoverd it in the daily news !
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21:00:55Mine78another link (http)
21:01:08Mine78(for the chip8 roms)
21:01:14Mine78http://webperso.easyconnect.fr/skweek/t.php?p=_Packs_/single/RCA%20Chip-8%20(0.99).7z
21:01:48k3nojesus christ
21:01:54k3noloads and loads of games!!!
21:03:09Mine7857 games in total
21:03:21Mine78do you want the file ?
21:03:46k3noI've used your ed2k link.. is that the one you mean?
21:03:58Mine78it's written it is the tosec 0.50 set
21:04:09k3nofound only one source for it.. weird
21:04:16Mine78the other link is 0.99 set i suppose it's more complete (still don't finished with emule)
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21:09:42Mine78u must rename the .ch8 files because their names are too long
21:10:07Mine78I am wrong
21:10:13Mine78u must add the .ch8 extension to some game
21:13:16k3nogot it
21:13:18k3nothanks!
21:14:27Mine78I will try them in few seconds
21:15:51Mine78it doesn't work
21:16:00Mine78I try to put the plugin in the games dir
21:20:27Mine78I dunno how to use the plugin
21:21:51k3nohmm I'll try it in a few
21:22:10Mine78I play the plugin but it returns error
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21:25:40NeurosupherotHOW can i do for make the uisimulator executable?
21:28:27Mine78dunno sorry
21:30:00Mine78It doesn't load the ch8
21:30:08Mine78now I try to do some renames
21:31:10Mine78IT WORKS !!!
21:31:19Mine78No renames ! Simply reboot thew archos !
21:32:19k3noMine78 could you send me the roms? I cant get them off emule (0 sources)
21:33:26Mine78ok
21:34:14Mine78get them
21:34:23Mine78I am sendin
21:34:31k3nothanks!
21:34:32Mine78clik accept
21:34:49Mine78I try also with emule, maybe some games are missing :-)
21:35:24k3noyeah.. if it ever gets downloaded..
21:37:15Mine78the emu is REALLY buggy
21:38:54Mine78The only one I am able to play (until now) is BRICKS (arkanoid)
21:39:01k3nocrasp
21:39:10k3noso sick of that.. got that on the cellphone )
21:41:05Mine78HIDDEN works
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21:43:49Doggerhi there
21:45:09Plughhiya Dogger
21:45:19Plughhow's the compression coming?
21:45:37Mine78SPACE INVADERS works
21:45:50Plughheh. chip8 is in :)
21:46:07k3nokalidoscope works
21:46:07Mine78until now only 4 games are compatible
21:46:17Mine78yes but i dunno how tgo play
21:46:21Neurosupherot?
21:46:32Neurosupherothow can i create the exe for uisimulator?
21:47:18Mine78TETRIS works
21:47:34Plughoh shit
21:47:38Plughmy life is over
21:47:53Plughtetris on my rockbox?
21:48:13Neurosupherotneed help...
21:48:33Mine78TIC TAC TOE works
21:48:39PlughNeurosupherot: read the directions on the web site. They're fully detailed
21:49:42Mine78U-BOAT doesn't work properly
21:49:58Mine78Title screen weired but game ok
21:50:16Mine78UFO ok
21:51:07Mine78VBRIX works
21:51:51Mine78VERSION CHK... dunno how to play
21:52:09Mine78WIPE OFF ok
21:52:34Mine78WORM 3 start but bad
21:53:42Mine78keys: UP-LEFT-RIGHT-DOWN-F1-F2-F3-PLAY-ON (all used in TI TAC TOE)
21:53:56Mine78THANK U ALL FOR THAT EMULATOR !!!
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22:01:01Neurosupherothow do you get this emulator?
22:01:31k3no__Neurosupherot get the recent daily build
22:03:58Neurosupherotwhen a update the rockbox frimware in my archos
22:04:13Neurosupherotis it a flash?
22:05:45Neurosupherotk3no__
22:06:03Neurosupherotin daily bvuilds
22:06:17Neurosupheroti downloaded the ajz, full, rock and ucl
22:06:27Neurosupherotthere is no exe
22:08:42Neurosupherot:(
22:08:55k3no__no! you dont need an exe
22:09:00Neurosupherot?
22:09:08k3no__you just hit play on a .ch8 file
22:09:09k3no__(on your archos)
22:09:17Neurosupherotlol
22:09:39Neurosupheroti want an archos on my pc
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22:09:45Neurosupherotuisimuolator
22:09:53Neurosupherotil an archos emulator aint it?
22:09:56k3no__why? you got the real thing! :)
22:10:17Neurosupherotnot yer
22:11:09Neurosupherotand
22:11:15Neurosupheroti wnat to know
22:11:24Neurosupherotwhat exactly is flashing?
22:11:42Neurosupherotis it when we update the firmware?
22:12:20k3no__it's replacing the archos firmware with the rockbox one
22:12:30k3no__for good
22:12:33Neurosupherotok
22:12:37Neurosupherotand
22:12:58Neurosupherotan update of rockbox is flashiong too?
22:12:59k3no__so it boots in like 2 seconds
22:13:01k3no__no
22:13:12Neurosupherotok
22:13:15k3no__flashing is writing it to the CHIP on the archos
22:13:31Neurosupherotwhen when i recieve my archos
22:13:44k3no__updating is just putting the file on the HD for the original archos firmware to read from
22:14:09Neurosupheroti unzip the flash_fm.zip int the archos?
22:15:06k3no__that's updating
22:15:17k3no__to flash you need to run the flashing plugin from the arhcos
22:15:25k3no__which I didnt do since it's DANGEROUS muahaa
22:15:44Neurosupherotthen you havnt rockbox in your atrchos?
22:16:55k3no__I do
22:17:02k3no__I just copy the file
22:17:09k3no__not flash it
22:17:36Neurosupherotyou just copied the ajz file?
22:18:22k3no__yep
22:18:46Neurosupheroti have a friend, who have a jukebox multimedia, and for updating, he must copy the ajz file in the root directory
22:18:50Neurosupherotok
22:18:52Neurosupherotthen
22:19:05Neurosupherotwhat is the difference between flashing abnd updating?
22:19:19Neurosupherotflashing brings just a quick boot?
22:19:48k3no__flashing puts the software on the chip of the archos
22:20:20k3no__which means it gets loaded instead of the archos firmware
22:20:20k3no__while putting the ajz file on the root dir is different -
22:20:28k3no__the archos firmware looks for it when booting and if it's found it loads it instead
22:20:34k3no__that's the difference
22:20:52Neurosupherotok
22:21:00k3no__np
22:21:09k3no__I don't really explain it well though
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22:21:30Neurosupherotthe if an archos has been flashed, the archos boots on rockbox, without loadng the archos firmware?
22:22:37Neurosupherotand with an update, wa can also play games ? or is flashing nessessary?
22:22:58k3nothe operation is exactly the same
22:23:11k3nothe only thing different is that rockbox boots in under 3 seconds or os
22:23:12k3noso
22:23:14Plughyou don't need to flash to do anything
22:23:22Neurosupherotko
22:23:23Neurosupherotok
22:23:33Neurosupherotand the arcos not flashed
22:23:35Plughit just improves boot time, the charging screen, and the USB connect screen
22:23:37Neurosupherotboots in?
22:23:44Neurosupherotok
22:23:52Neurosupherotahd in the zip
22:24:01Neurosupherotthere i also a rockbox folder
22:24:07Neurosupherotmust i copy it too?
22:24:11Plughyes
22:24:14Plugh.rockbox
22:24:36Neurosupherotok
22:24:45Plughthat's your fonts and plugins and stuff
22:24:47Neurosupherotthen it is not dangerout to update?
22:24:56Plughas well as language files
22:24:58Plugh:)
22:25:05Neurosupherotok:)
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22:25:55Neurosupherotcan i change the boot logo?
22:26:00Plughthere's no harm at all in using a hard drive based firmware update
22:26:28Plughand flash is pretty hard to mess up
22:26:55PlughI was scared to flash for a long time
22:26:59Neurosupherotto make the ajz, wa must have cygwin isnt it?
22:27:11Neurosupherotyou flashed it?
22:27:14Plughyes
22:27:32Plughyou only need cygwin if you want to build your own
22:27:44Neurosupheroti just want to change the logo
22:27:47dwihno\o/ yay rockbox! \o/
22:27:49Neurosupherotis it possible?
22:27:55Plughpretty much, you only need to do that if you want to write new code
22:28:12PlughI've had some trouble finding that logo
22:28:14dwihnoNeurosupherot: The logo is displayed for such a short notice. Why would you want to change it?
22:29:10PlughI wouldn't mind changing the logo to show my name and phone number in case I lose it or it gets stolen
22:29:21Plugha friend of mine had his get stolen
22:29:28Neurosupherotwanna draw :ROCKBOX hello neurosupherot
22:29:57Neurosupherotyes, its a pretty good idea:D
22:31:43Neurosupherotthe rockbox firmware is based on the rockbox2.0.tar.gz we download?
22:32:38Neurosupherotthen if i want to change the logo
22:32:50Neurosupheroti unzip this, i change the logo and compile in ajz?
22:37:11Plughok just flashed the chip8 patch in
22:39:15Neurosupherot???
22:39:56Neurosupherotwhere can i find the bmp?
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22:41:35Neurosupherotk3no?
22:41:57Neurosupherot:(
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22:42:42trackhello Rockboxers
22:42:46Neurosupherothi
22:43:00Neurosupherotdo you know where is the logo in the source?
22:43:03Neurosupheroti cant find it
22:43:31trackdunno
22:43:40trackIve never hacked into the sorce myself
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22:54:01[IDC]DragonNeurosupherot gone? Phew!
22:54:12trackhe wants to change the boot logo
22:54:12tracklol
22:54:49[IDC]DragonLinusN|away: are you really away or just hiding? ;-)
22:56:36Plughhe also wants to install the ui sim, compile his own kernel, etc
22:56:52[IDC]Dragonkernel? haha!
22:58:22[IDC]DragonHe was bugging the group (linus, basically) all day long.
22:59:15[IDC]DragonLinus stayed remarkably cool.
22:59:53[IDC]DragonI'll be back, have to reboot.
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