#rockbox 2003-11-24

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#rockbox log for 2003-11-24

00:00:02	midknight2k3	so i thought it was dead
00:00:45	tracktheripper	ok
00:00:50	tracktheripper	ipods are bad
00:00:52	tracktheripper	VERY bad
00:00:58	midknight2k3	lol
00:01:02	midknight2k3	now he tried to get on my good side
00:01:25	tracktheripper	you are so twofaced on occasions mid
00:01:36	midknight2k3	twofaced?
00:01:38	midknight2k3	elaborate.
00:01:57	tracktheripper	it means one minute ur nice the next minute you aren't nice
00:02:10	midknight2k3	and guess what
00:02:14	tracktheripper	what
00:02:20	midknight2k3	"i wont file anymore" -you a few days ago
00:02:31	midknight2k3	<track files one> -you a few days after a few days ago
00:02:55	tracktheripper	mid lets get back to rockbox issues please
00:03:06	midknight2k3	track
00:03:11	midknight2k3	you started getting off topic
00:03:12	midknight2k3	not me
00:03:30	tracktheripper	mid im thinking of respraying my archos
00:03:53	midknight2k3	i read that
00:03:59	midknight2k3	logbot exists for a reason you know
00:04:02	midknight2k3	"gold" right
00:04:06	midknight2k3	"whatever matches the bumpers"
00:04:17	midknight2k3	"the bumpers are rubber and the paint will come off"
00:04:20	tracktheripper	yes since I think gold will look nice with the blue bumpers
00:06:08	tracktheripper	what other colours do u suggest mid?
00:06:34	midknight2k3	black
00:08:14	midknight2k3	or red
00:08:19	tracktheripper	cool
00:10:01	midknight2k3	or wait!
00:10:04	midknight2k3	how about green
00:10:30	tracktheripper	yea green would be nice
00:11:08	midknight2k3	ugh
00:11:13	midknight2k3	track wants a green archos?
00:11:15	midknight2k3	eeeeeew
00:11:38	diddystar5	i like just plain old black :)
00:11:53	midknight2k3	yes
00:11:53	tracktheripper	actually i may spray it mirror silve
00:11:54	tracktheripper	r
00:11:56	midknight2k3	green would suck
00:12:36	tracktheripper	what about mirror silver?
00:13:43	tracktheripper	actally spray it ipod colours
00:13:51	tracktheripper	white on teh front silver on the back
00:13:53	midknight2k3	suck
00:14:22	tracktheripper	y?
00:14:41	midknight2k3	beb
00:14:43	midknight2k3	brb
00:16:09	diddystar5	aol 9 is fu*ked up
00:16:18	midknight2k3	haa
00:16:24	tracktheripper	i have aol 8 so i cant' comment
00:16:28	diddystar5	i liked 8 better
00:16:51	diddystar5	9 has reset all the dial numbers 2 times already....
00:16:57	midknight2k3	haaaa
00:17:01	diddystar5	and it had to reinstalled once
00:17:14	midknight2k3	at least you have the certain string you need
00:17:24	midknight2k3	if you know what i mean
00:17:36	tracktheripper	album covers on the player
00:17:40	diddystar5	and it fucked my desktop up with the "aol computer checkup" that it wouldnt let me remove
00:17:42	midknight2k3	shush
00:17:46	midknight2k3	haha
00:17:48	midknight2k3	checkup
00:17:58	*	midknight2k3 makes some butterfinger hot choclit
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00:18:35	diddystar5	so fucked up no wonder its number 1!
00:18:50	tracktheripper	lol
00:18:58	tracktheripper	ive had no probs with version 8
00:19:32	tracktheripper	im doing a patch that enables album covers to be viewed on the Player diddystar
00:19:58	diddystar5	yeah right
00:20:07	diddystar5	thats stuiped
00:20:22	diddystar5	and i bet if it could be done, you wouldnt know how to do it
00:20:30	tracktheripper	on the WPS one character cell is reserved for the album cover
00:20:59	midknight2k3	hah
00:21:05	midknight2k3	track: you cant code
00:21:12	diddystar5	yeah and that tiny little fricken cel is gonna display a cover?
00:21:12	midknight2k3	1) its not possible
00:21:16	midknight2k3	2) you CANT CODE
00:21:18	midknight2k3	lool
00:21:31	midknight2k3	what does lcd_setfont(FONT_SYSFIXED) mean to you
00:21:31	tracktheripper	well they are still pixels
00:21:38	midknight2k3	albeit huge ones
00:21:41	midknight2k3	in small clusters
00:21:55	diddystar5	i cant remember i think one cell was maybe >10 pixles
00:22:02	midknight2k3	11
00:22:04	diddystar5	*less than 10
00:22:09	tracktheripper	ok use 4 character cells in a square pattern to display the album cover
00:22:11	midknight2k3	oh wait
00:22:13	midknight2k3	wait wait
00:22:18	midknight2k3	its 35 picels
00:22:22	midknight2k3	7x5
00:22:25	midknight2k3	each char
00:23:02	diddystar5	Topic of #rockbox: tracktheripper can't code!
00:23:05	diddystar5	lol
00:23:10	diddystar5	that should be done
00:23:25	tracktheripper	yes but does the architect build the house? No
00:23:30	tracktheripper	he just does the designing
00:23:35	midknight2k3	ahah
00:23:41	midknight2k3	you cnt architect or design
00:23:41	tracktheripper	so I do the designing, you do the building
00:23:42	tracktheripper	:)
00:23:42	midknight2k3	so can it
00:24:19	tracktheripper	lol
00:24:25	tracktheripper	im also working on a plugin
00:24:36	midknight2k3	yes
00:24:40	midknight2k3	its gonna be this
00:24:42	midknight2k3	__
00:24:50	midknight2k3	put on lcd " hello! "
00:24:51	midknight2k3	__
00:24:57	midknight2k3	then it produce errors compiling
00:25:05	midknight2k3	"get away from the code smart one"
00:25:05	tracktheripper	no
00:25:10	tracktheripper	no
00:25:15	tracktheripper	the official plugin name is
00:25:22	tracktheripper	"FM chip emulator for the Recorder"
00:25:30	midknight2k3	yes
00:25:33	midknight2k3	heres the code
00:25:34	midknight2k3	__
00:25:37	midknight2k3	make fm chip
00:25:41	midknight2k3	software style
00:25:42	midknight2k3	__
00:25:49	midknight2k3	error: idiots cant code
00:26:21	diddystar5	lol
00:26:40	tracktheripper	but don't forget I did the much loved Screen Invert
00:26:41	tracktheripper	:)
00:26:49	midknight2k3	yes
00:26:52	midknight2k3	heres your code
00:26:53	midknight2k3	__
00:26:56	midknight2k3	invert screen
00:26:57	midknight2k3	__
00:26:59	tracktheripper	at least commend me for something
00:27:04	midknight2k3	error: why arent you dead yet?
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00:27:45	midknight2k3	ha
00:28:03	diddystar5	yeah right track i remember the screen invery patch you didnt make it
00:28:13	diddystar5	infact you havent even made one fricken patch
00:28:40	tracktheripper	i give up
00:28:42	tracktheripper	really I do
00:28:44	midknight2k3	good
00:29:16	diddystar5	it was dazzler that made the scren invert
00:29:25	diddystar5	http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=677340&group_id=44306&atid=439120
00:29:40	tracktheripper	since u 2 are always ganging up on me
00:29:49	midknight2k3	im sorry track
00:29:52	midknight2k3	ill be nice now
00:30:17	tracktheripper	thank you
00:30:32	diddystar5	humm
00:30:55	tracktheripper	:)
00:32:00	tracktheripper	good manners cost nothing
00:32:14	midknight2k3	yes
00:32:27	midknight2k3	they cost me gving you verbal kung fu
00:32:39	tracktheripper	:-(
00:32:45	tracktheripper	u never nice to me
00:32:54	midknight2k3	oh sure
00:33:01	midknight2k3	just like whne i made you your redzone
00:33:05	midknight2k3	never satisfied
00:33:08	*	midknight2k3 shakes head
00:33:28	tracktheripper	i liked ur redsone
00:33:30	tracktheripper	redzone
00:33:33	midknight2k3	srue
00:33:36	midknight2k3	i made it for you
00:33:39	tracktheripper	is that gonna be in 2.1
00:33:40	tracktheripper	thanks
00:33:41	tracktheripper	:)
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00:34:04	midknight2k3	nope
00:34:08	midknight2k3	its not gonna make it
00:34:43	tracktheripper	oh ok
00:34:44	tracktheripper	:(
00:34:57	midknight2k3	i make a better one :D
00:35:00	diddystar5	my vu meter has made it :)
00:35:01	tracktheripper	really?
00:35:01	cannon_fodder	NEWBIE ALERT - hi group
00:35:02	midknight2k3	soon
00:35:04	tracktheripper	cool
00:35:06	midknight2k3	hello cannon_fodder
00:35:07	diddystar5	hi
00:35:07	tracktheripper	hi cannon_fodde
00:35:08	tracktheripper	r
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00:35:45	tracktheripper	hi top_bloke
00:35:58	top_bloke	hello
00:35:58	midknight2k3	toppy
00:36:08	top_bloke	word
00:36:38	diddystar5	bye
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00:36:48	cannon_fodder	anyone care to discuss the RLD issue or is that off-topic tonight?
00:37:23	tracktheripper	anyway nite all
00:37:23	midknight2k3	?
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00:37:26	midknight2k3	nite track
00:37:29	midknight2k3	shez
00:37:36	top_bloke	lets see
00:37:43	midknight2k3	RLD?
00:37:48	top_bloke	RLD - yep thats off topic today
00:37:54	top_bloke	checked the list
00:37:57	top_bloke	nah j/k
00:37:59	cannon_fodder	red LED dead
00:38:10	midknight2k3	oh
00:38:11	midknight2k3	RLD Red Light District
00:38:12	cannon_fodder	ok fair 'nuf
00:38:14	midknight2k3	lol
00:38:17	midknight2k3	ok wait
00:38:19	midknight2k3	uhm
00:38:20	top_bloke	u get it a lot?
00:38:24	midknight2k3	toppy
00:38:26	midknight2k3	woo
00:38:30	top_bloke	wheres your head at mid
00:38:33	cannon_fodder	yeah its a pain
00:38:40	midknight2k3	try to flash
00:38:43	midknight2k3	it might fix
00:38:57	top_bloke	is that documneted?
00:39:00	cannon_fodder	I'll give it a go
00:39:06	midknight2k3	cannon: did you flash ?
00:39:15	top_bloke	or are u just pushing flashing
00:39:24	midknight2k3	top: not documented
00:39:25	cannon_fodder	yeah, Itrieda daily build like two days ago. No change
00:39:28	midknight2k3	its just possible it might fix it
00:39:41	midknight2k3	flashed the rom? or just used a ajz
00:39:52	top_bloke	yeah i got a RLD once
00:39:59	cannon_fodder	just the ajz (er whats the difference?)
00:40:16	midknight2k3	flashing rewrites the memory
00:40:25	top_bloke	ucl is flash
00:40:39	midknight2k3	pushes archos firmware aside and brings rockbox in front of it
00:40:44	midknight2k3	so its hardcoded into the box
00:40:50	midknight2k3	yielding better boot times
00:40:55	top_bloke	pushy firmware
00:41:06	midknight2k3	?
00:41:10	cannon_fodder	I'm not sure if I have the reprogrammable falsh chip or not.
00:41:13	top_bloke	uh
00:41:19	midknight2k3	go to menu-debug-hw info
00:41:27	midknight2k3	what does it say for "flash:"
00:41:31	midknight2k3	and "rom crc"
00:42:38	top_bloke	well does he got a rec?
00:42:41	cannon_fodder	er i don't see either of those I have ROM, Mask etc.
00:42:45	top_bloke	well yeah cause ajz
00:42:56	midknight2k3	you have rec right?
00:42:57	cannon_fodder	yes JBR20
00:42:59	midknight2k3	ok
00:43:03	midknight2k3	you are at HW info?
00:43:07	cannon_fodder	yep
00:43:16	midknight2k3	it should say
00:43:28	midknight2k3	Flash: M-BF, D=D6 or something similar
00:44:47	midknight2k3	chor recht?
00:44:48	cannon_fodder	says ROM: 1.28 Mask: 0x0302 USB:positive ATA: 0x200 PR: positive Freq: 11.something etc.
00:45:01	cannon_fodder	Do I got the right page?
00:45:13	top_bloke	?
00:45:14	midknight2k3	what version
00:45:17	midknight2k3	i know whats wrong
00:45:20	midknight2k3	get a daily build
00:45:25	midknight2k3	you use 2.0?
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00:46:03	cannon_fodder	yeah vanilla 2.0 at the moment. I'll change the ajz and get back to you.
00:46:07	midknight2k3	BOOO
00:46:09	midknight2k3	ok get new ajz
00:46:15	midknight2k3	ill be back in about 10-15 mins
00:46:17	midknight2k3	k
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00:56:46	cannon_fodder	okey-dokey then... Flash: M=BF D=D6 on the debug page
00:57:36	cannon_fodder	So, have some people seen an improvement in RLD after flashing?
00:57:50	top_bloke	looks like its flashable
00:58:17	top_bloke	not documented
00:58:19	top_bloke	mid just tells everyone to flash
00:58:19	top_bloke	as a solution to everything
00:58:21	top_bloke	nah j/k
00:58:48	top_bloke	wasnt there a game called cannon fodder?
00:58:53	cannon_fodder	BTW i hope this off-topic RLD stuff isn't getting in the way of business...
00:59:01	top_bloke	its not
00:59:11	cannon_fodder	Yeah - damn I knew I must of stolen it from somewhere
00:59:51	top_bloke	RLD is not off topic
01:00
01:00:10	top_bloke	its a pretty big big
01:00:14	cannon_fodder	I notice it's priority 7
01:00:27	top_bloke	is that high?
01:00:51	top_bloke	but the devs cant reproduce the problem
01:01:32	cannon_fodder	Well I didn't get the problem until I upgraded my drive to a Fujitsu MHT2040AT (Firmware 009B)
01:02:21	cannon_fodder	I put a description of my experiences on the RDL bug report page
01:03:01	top_bloke	i see
01:03:01	top_bloke	so its the drive
01:03:36	cannon_fodder	I guess - but other people have seen it with the stock drive I believe...
01:04:12	top_bloke	good maybe it will help solve it
01:04:28	top_bloke	does your time counter keep going after a death?
01:04:36	cannon_fodder	I also find that the box recovers from RLD after exactly 1 minute 20 seconds - always
01:05:12	cannon_fodder	the counter stops.
01:06:08	top_bloke	mine kept going the one time it happened to me
01:06:08	top_bloke	so maybe it wasnt a true RLD
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01:06:50	top_bloke	the music stopped, and the light was on solid but the counter kept going
01:07:40	cannon_fodder	Actually now I think about it don;t quote me on the counter I will have to look again.
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01:08:06	top_bloke	ok i wont quote u
01:08:35	midknight2k3	okok here i am
01:08:43	cannon_fodder	I have mostly been lookng at the MPEG therad window to see the state of the buffer when it fails.
01:09:59	cannon_fodder	Ahhh Radiohead - what a band for a rainy night in London.
01:10:29	midknight2k3	hello
01:10:36	cannon_fodder	hello k
01:10:42	top_bloke	thank GOD
01:10:42	top_bloke	mid is here to save the day
01:10:44	top_bloke	any specific spot?
01:11:09	midknight2k3	whwhw
01:11:17	midknight2k3	specfic spot?
01:11:55	top_bloke	where it fails
01:11:55	top_bloke	constantly
01:12:39	cannon_fodder	I believe it always fail just as the buffer is about to be re-filled. i.e. on a 'read'
01:12:51	top_bloke	well that makes sense
01:13:08	midknight2k3	top: as if you understand :)
01:13:13	top_bloke	hey
01:13:16	top_bloke	i do
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01:13:47	top_bloke	the problem occurs when the buffer is refilled
01:14:03	top_bloke	cause otherwise the drive aint even on
01:14:28	midknight2k3	fine
01:14:30	midknight2k3	top
01:14:34	top_bloke	fine
01:14:36	midknight2k3	diagnose the problem
01:15:15	cannon_fodder	Someone suggested it could be caused by the way the drive is 'woken' from its suspend state.
01:15:26	midknight2k3	i have an idea
01:15:31	midknight2k3	try the disk poweroff option
01:15:58	top_bloke	well lts see here
01:16:10	cannon_fodder	I have tried ramping the disk spindown up to maximum (i.e. no spindown) but I still get RLD
01:16:12	top_bloke	uh yeah
01:16:16	top_bloke	i was gonna say that
01:16:32	top_bloke	so its spinning constantly?
01:16:40	cannon_fodder	yeah
01:16:49	midknight2k3	no
01:16:51	midknight2k3	idiot
01:16:57	midknight2k3	disk poweroff, not disk spindown
01:17:01	top_bloke	and still get it?
01:17:05	top_bloke	shut up
01:17:11	top_bloke	i was asking him
01:17:11	midknight2k3	?
01:17:13	midknight2k3	no
01:17:16	midknight2k3	thats not it
01:17:17	top_bloke	i know what u mean
01:17:28	cannon_fodder	mid: I understand I was just saying about spindown
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01:17:41	midknight2k3	i was talking to toppy
01:17:48	top_bloke	i was asking him if when its constantly spinning it still gets the death
01:18:05	top_bloke	youre suggesting changing the option to power it off
01:18:15	top_bloke	instad of suspend
01:18:24	midknight2k3	oh forget it
01:18:37	cannon_fodder	always spinning - NO effect \|\| drive off - not tested
01:18:37	top_bloke	breakdown of communication
01:18:49	midknight2k3	b
01:18:51	top_bloke	try it
01:19:00	midknight2k3	ok wait
01:19:06	midknight2k3	if you need me say my name
01:19:10	midknight2k3	it will let me know
01:19:18	cannon_fodder	I will try the drive off but I only see the problem intermittently so I might have to get back to you..
01:19:20	top_bloke	midknight2k3
01:19:22	top_bloke	midknight2k3
01:19:22	midknight2k3	"mid" will work
01:19:29	midknight2k3	lol
01:19:32	midknight2k3	try again
01:19:36	midknight2k3	just to be sure
01:19:57	top_bloke	like that?
01:19:59	midknight2k3	yes
01:20:21	top_bloke	how about mi
01:20:21	top_bloke	or m
01:20:27	cannon_fodder	lol
01:20:28	midknight2k3	no
01:20:36	midknight2k3	mid, midknight2k3 or midk2k3 works
01:20:55	top_bloke	mhhhm malcolm in the MIDdle is going to be on later
01:20:59	top_bloke	does that work?
01:21:26	cannon_fodder	Ah - you guys ;)
01:21:30	midknight2k3	top
01:21:33	midknight2k3	no capital MID
01:23:02	top_bloke	man my connection sucks today
01:23:10	midknight2k3	ahem
01:23:12	midknight2k3	TEST IT PLEASE
01:23:58	top_bloke	i think i'm gonna go listen to a midi
01:24:15	top_bloke	that work?
01:24:22	midknight2k3	no
01:24:33	top_bloke	it had mid.
01:24:42	midknight2k3	yes
01:24:43	midknight2k3	that works
01:24:44	midknight2k3	ok
01:24:49	midknight2k3	holla if ya need moi
01:24:52	*	midknight2k3 out
01:25:21	Arnaud	holla ?
01:25:40	midknight2k3	nm
01:25:41	midknight2k3	lol
01:25:47	midknight2k3	CALL ME IF YOU NEED ME
01:25:58	cannon_fodder	Cheers mid
01:26:04	top_bloke	peace out
01:26:04	midknight2k3	you caled?
01:26:06	top_bloke	word, dawg.
01:26:12	midknight2k3	oh
01:26:14	midknight2k3	indeed
01:26:39	top_bloke	word
01:26:57	top_bloke	word is my favorite....word
01:27:24	cannon_fodder	wideboys and homeys
01:28:34	cannon_fodder	well, thanks for your input - I'm gonna sign off now.
01:28:42	midknight2k3	ok later
01:28:45	cannon_fodder	Cheerio
01:28:48		Quit cannon_fodder ()
01:28:48	midknight2k3	flash flash
01:28:51	midknight2k3	lol
01:28:52	top_bloke	uh
01:28:53	top_bloke	word to that.
01:28:53	top_bloke	ait, word dawg
01:28:58	midknight2k3	a quick message before he leaves
01:29:19	midknight2k3	?asdfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
01:29:42	top_bloke	word up
01:29:57	top_bloke	word?
01:30:20	midknight2k3	shutup
01:30:21	midknight2k3	shut?
01:30:25	top_bloke	?
01:30:37	midknight2k3	;
01:30:38	midknight2k3	ll
01:30:38	top_bloke	word!
01:30:38	midknight2k3	]l
01:30:53	midknight2k3	im tirex
01:31:01	top_bloke	i hope u get banned
01:31:05	midknight2k3	0i-4
01:31:08	top_bloke	for flooding
01:31:16	top_bloke	u got a timex?
01:31:23	midknight2k3	yes actually
01:31:24	top_bloke	watch
01:31:27	midknight2k3	its got a bitmap lcd
01:31:40	midknight2k3	similar to the Rec20s
01:32:14	top_bloke	word!
01:32:20	midknight2k3	yes
01:32:23	top_bloke	can u run rockbox on it?
01:32:28	midknight2k3	perhaps
01:32:37	midknight2k3	i could use the crown for up/down
01:32:45	midknight2k3	middle to go in
01:32:51	midknight2k3	reset to go back
01:32:54	midknight2k3	mode for menu
01:32:56	top_bloke	there u go
01:32:57	midknight2k3	sounds good
01:33:29	top_bloke	indeed
01:33:55	midknight2k3	undoubtedly
01:34:36	top_bloke	doubtedly
01:34:45	midknight2k3	shutup
01:34:57	top_bloke	word...
01:41:55	midknight2k3	SCUSE ME!?
01:42:24	top_bloke	yeah, excuse YOU
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01:50:50	midknight2k3	hi
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02:01:43	Dogger	hey anyone alive?
02:02:15	midknight2k3	yo
02:03:44	Dogger	hey :)
02:03:53	midknight2k3	any progress?
02:03:56	midknight2k3	i guess no
02:03:57	midknight2k3	not
02:04:00	Dogger	yeah some,
02:04:16	Dogger	still working out the BIOS routines at the moment
02:04:29	Dogger	have found the BIOS routine to print a character on the JBMM,
02:04:34	Dogger	but thats about all so far :)
02:04:44	Dogger	I want to put packman on it first
02:04:47	Dogger	pacman rocks
02:05:03	Dogger	oh and made a cool prog to extract jpegs from firmware
02:05:09	midknight2k3	we need pacman for rockbox
02:05:14	Dogger	you get all the sprites out so you can make ur own skins etc
02:05:28	Dogger	yeah its a very adictive game
02:05:53	Dogger	am working on a restricted private development site at the moment
02:05:56	top_bloke	pacman owns
02:06:01	Dogger	so I can let others look at progress etc
02:06:08	midknight2k3	let me look at progress
02:06:08	Dogger	but only nice people
02:06:08	midknight2k3	lol
02:06:11	midknight2k3	im nice
02:06:13	midknight2k3	very nice
02:06:17	midknight2k3	:)
02:06:24	Dogger	I might have a test you have to do on the website
02:06:28	Dogger	before you can enter
02:06:33	midknight2k3	like?
02:06:35	Dogger	1. are you french?
02:06:35	top_bloke	lol
02:06:39	Dogger	2. are you a lawyer?
02:06:39	midknight2k3	lol
02:06:43	Dogger	just kidding
02:06:43	midknight2k3	Hahaha
02:06:46	midknight2k3	really
02:06:47	top_bloke	lololol
02:06:50	midknight2k3	whats the place
02:07:12	Dogger	havent finished it yet
02:07:25	Dogger	maybe I'll ask a few RE questions
02:07:32	Dogger	that way non REers cant come in
02:07:34	midknight2k3	i want to seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
02:07:36	midknight2k3	RE?
02:07:43	Dogger	reverse engineering
02:07:53	midknight2k3	but i want to come in
02:07:54	midknight2k3	i can code
02:08:03	Dogger	then youll b ok :)
02:08:19	top_bloke	too bad
02:08:23	top_bloke	u cant
02:09:01	midknight2k3	hah
02:09:03	Dogger	question1. what address does the JBMM load its firmware into ram at?
02:09:07	midknight2k3	uhm
02:09:09	midknight2k3	no idea?
02:09:09	Dogger	ok maybe thats a bit hard :)
02:09:12	midknight2k3	is that an option?
02:09:13	midknight2k3	lol
02:09:18	Dogger	but also archos will know that so its no good
02:09:19	midknight2k3	oh wait
02:09:30	midknight2k3	then how about
02:09:39	midknight2k3	what is a debug message found in the source?
02:09:47	Dogger	lol
02:09:52	midknight2k3	they know that too
02:09:54	midknight2k3	>:(
02:10:55	Dogger	cant believe the stupid laws around at the moment
02:11:07	Dogger	it's like we're criminals or something! For writing software!
02:11:25	midknight2k3	haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
02:11:27	top_bloke	are there laws saying u cant do this?
02:11:28	midknight2k3	aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
02:11:32	Dogger	what next? They make it illegal to open your car bonnet up to see how it works?
02:11:37	midknight2k3	ahha
02:11:42	Dogger	top_bloke: some believe there are yes
02:11:54	Dogger	DMCA is pretty ambiguous
02:11:58	Dogger	and very badly written
02:12:05	Dogger	so it's all open to interpretation
02:12:12	top_bloke	u aint in usa
02:12:14	Dogger	and none of its really been tested yet
02:12:19	top_bloke	r u?
02:12:30	Dogger	correct, but I don't want to get arrested when I go to the US
02:12:39	top_bloke	r u in the US?
02:12:47	top_bloke	oh
02:12:48	Dogger	I am at the moment, but I live in the uk
02:13:09	Dogger	I just come over here now and then to laugh at stupid americans, and listen to country music
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02:13:42	pokerjoker	hi rockbox people
02:13:46	top_bloke	well do it like rockbox does
02:13:49	top_bloke	theyre not in trouble
02:13:49	top_bloke	the simpsons are going to the UK
02:13:49	top_bloke	right now what a coincidence
02:14:06	top_bloke	tony blair is welcoming them
02:14:10	pokerjoker	hey midknight are you here? do you have that koolaid bmp?
02:14:19	Dogger	they are only not in trouble because they are writing firmware for old hardware Archos doesnt care about
02:14:20	midknight2k3	hey poker!
02:14:25	midknight2k3	which one?
02:14:32	Dogger	as far as archos is concerned, the hardware rockbox runs on is dead
02:14:35	top_bloke	well
02:14:47	pokerjoker	hey guys i got GREAT news... that Recorder 20 i bought for $80 on ebay, works perfectly!
02:14:48	midknight2k3	no!
02:14:51	midknight2k3	COOOOL
02:14:52	pokerjoker	the first one midnkight
02:14:58	Dogger	$80 is pretty good,
02:15:00	midknight2k3	i put it online
02:15:04	midknight2k3	PRETTY GOOD?
02:15:06	midknight2k3	thats insane
02:15:06	Dogger	I bought a kodak mc3 off ebay
02:15:15	midknight2k3	20GB $80 Rec20?!
02:15:17	midknight2k3	AESOME
02:15:24	Dogger	everyone knows the kodak mc3 is exactly the same as the multimedia jukebox right?
02:15:30	midknight2k3	midknight2k3/jonestown.bmp">http://freewebs.com/midknight2k3/jonestown.bmp
02:15:30	top_bloke	they they say it, as long as you dont release hacked archos fw youre in the clear
02:15:32	Dogger	archos just repackaged the kodak
02:15:35	pokerjoker	yeah im stoked. all i had to do was run scandisk. works fine.
02:15:42	midknight2k3	hahaa
02:15:45	midknight2k3	scandisk
02:15:46	midknight2k3	hahaaaaaaaaaaa
02:15:51	Dogger	top_bloke: not as far as they are concerned
02:15:56	midknight2k3	what was "wrong" wit it
02:16:11	Dogger	top_bloke: simply telling others how to 'pack' firmware so it runs, they consider to be illegal
02:16:17	midknight2k3	dogger: no
02:16:20	midknight2k3	its hacked firmware
02:16:24	top_bloke	lol - simpsons in the UK
02:16:27	midknight2k3	rockbox tells how to pack firmware
02:16:30	midknight2k3	its just different firmware
02:16:37	Dogger	yes I know
02:16:38	midknight2k3	thers nothing wrong with different stuff
02:16:46	Dogger	archos OBJECT to me releasing a packer/unpacker
02:16:50	midknight2k3	but if its modified copyrighted material its trouble
02:16:56	Dogger	hacking firmware doesnt even come into it
02:17:02	Dogger	I would never use their code anyway
02:17:06	top_bloke	dont release it
02:17:06	midknight2k3	lol
02:17:15	midknight2k3	dogger: im not putting you down
02:17:20	Dogger	yeah I'll prolly just code some games,
02:17:25	Dogger	and release the binarys
02:17:27	top_bloke	wait untill you have code and pack it yourself i guess
02:17:30	midknight2k3	yeah
02:17:30	midknight2k3	there
02:17:32	top_bloke	yeah
02:17:34	Dogger	perhaps for now
02:17:40	top_bloke	they cant do shit about that
02:17:42	Arnaud	hmmmm
02:17:44	Dogger	but then the average 10 year old could work out their encryption
02:17:55	Arnaud	yahoo indicates that I'm no longer subscribed to archosmultimedia
02:18:01	Arnaud	and I continue to receive the mails
02:18:02	Arnaud	wtf ?!?
02:18:20	midknight2k3	lol
02:18:22	Dogger	hope you have all signed the petition?
02:18:29	midknight2k3	what
02:18:31	midknight2k3	petition?
02:18:31	Dogger	334 names so far
02:18:35	midknight2k3	where
02:18:36	midknight2k3	which
02:18:37	pokerjoker	rockbox is cool. i have a question though.
02:18:39	midknight2k3	huh
02:18:46	Dogger	http://www.petitiononline.com/ossarc/petition.html
02:18:51	midknight2k3	for what
02:19:02	Dogger	asking archos to remove their head from the arse
02:19:13	Dogger	asking them to learn to not be arrogant
02:19:16	midknight2k3	you make the petition?
02:19:20	Dogger	that sort of thing
02:19:20	Dogger	yeah
02:19:31	pokerjoker	on recorder, if you press the F2 button, it opens up an option to turn "scroll bar" on or off. whats that mean?
02:19:34	Dogger	when it gets 1000 names or something I'll send it to everyone at archos prolly
02:19:46	midknight2k3	wait
02:19:47	midknight2k3	that f3
02:19:48	midknight2k3	lol
02:19:51	midknight2k3	thats the scroll bar
02:19:57	midknight2k3	when browsing
02:20:10	midknight2k3	335 Signatures Total
02:20:14	midknight2k3	just signed
02:20:26	top_bloke	i doubt it will work Dogger
02:20:41	Dogger	sure, I doubt it as well
02:20:46	pokerjoker	hmm when browsing?
02:20:48	Dogger	the french are famous for their arrogance
02:20:49	midknight2k3	it might!
02:20:54	midknight2k3	poker: or anywhere else
02:21:03	Dogger	at least I know people want the software now though
02:21:06	top_bloke	homer rear ended the queen of england
02:22:12	pokerjoker	does it refer to how lines scroll, like %s ?
02:22:40	top_bloke	its a scroll bar like on the side of your window
02:23:01	pokerjoker	ohhh. so holding the f3 key and pressing down...
02:23:05	pokerjoker	that does scroll?
02:23:25	top_bloke	just tunrs on/off the scroll bar
02:23:38	pokerjoker	how do you *use the scroll bar though
02:23:54	top_bloke	hit down
02:23:56	midknight2k3	poker: its on or off
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02:24:06	top_bloke	when browsing
02:24:12	pokerjoker	ok i will try that out. thanks guys.
02:24:13	top_bloke	or options
02:24:55	Arnaud	Dogger: thanks for the arrogance
02:26:27	top_bloke	homer's in jail
02:26:57	midknight2k3	top_bloke: we dont need news flashes each time you giggle like a baby
02:27:07	top_bloke	oh
02:27:11	top_bloke	sorry
02:32:16	top_bloke	theres a bonus simpsons next!
02:32:16	top_bloke	i'm gonna go give it my undivided attention
02:35:06	Dogger	tell everyone about the petition anyway... lets try and get a few thousand signatures on there
02:35:09	Dogger	laters :)
02:35:17	midknight2k3	ok
02:35:18	midknight2k3	lol
02:35:18	midknight2k3	bye
02:35:23	Dogger	any luck, and it'll start to apear on news sites
02:35:27	Dogger	slashdot etc etc
02:35:28	midknight2k3	haha
02:35:31	midknight2k3	doubted
02:35:41	Dogger	well, we can but hope,
02:35:45	midknight2k3	yes
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02:37:31	pokerjoker	hey you guys have any pete yorn mp3s?
02:39:27	pokerjoker	Id like to get ahold of some albums if i could
02:39:36	pokerjoker	i dont know if i like his stuff, but i might
02:46:34	Arnaud	it's illegal ! I'll call the riaa !
02:46:34	Arnaud	:)
02:46:45	midknight2k3	lol
02:47:59	Arnaud	where are the cops when we need them ?
02:48:16	midknight2k3	olol
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02:50:30	pokerjoker	Riaa? is that a mythological beast?
02:50:36	midknight2k3	thats it
02:50:51	pokerjoker	i return in a bit. o k folks
02:51:02	midknight2k3	bye
02:51:05	midknight2k3	funny koolaid guy
02:54:43	midknight2k3	TOP
02:58:56	top_bloke	that was a good bonus simpsons
02:59:05	midknight2k3	lol
02:59:25	top_bloke	not as good as the 1st one tho
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03:17:32	pokerjoker	ah man some asshole just outbid me on a laptop HD
03:17:39	pokerjoker	in the last 20 seconds, no less
03:18:07	pokerjoker	30GB, and i had bid 69. he bid 70 so after shipping its 75 bucks.
03:18:12	pokerjoker	not bad for a 30 Gig
03:18:16	midknight2k3	?
03:18:27	midknight2k3	wpw
03:18:30	midknight2k3	lol
03:18:35	midknight2k3	they are dummies
03:18:37	pokerjoker	its cool though, i will get a 40 gig instead! and trip out my archos. it will rock
03:18:40	midknight2k3	stick around for the end of the bid
03:18:42	midknight2k3	lol
03:18:47	midknight2k3	trip it out yo dogg werd
03:19:15	pokerjoker	yeah, i will get shag carpetting to put round the outside of my archos, and some blue neon for the LCD
03:19:55	pokerjoker	ok brb. when movie is over
03:19:57	midknight2k3	reminds me
03:19:59	midknight2k3	wait
03:20:00	midknight2k3	wait
03:20:29	midknight2k3	still here?
03:20:50	midknight2k3	poker?
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04:33:01	top_bloke	word
04:33:11	midknight2k3	yes
04:33:32	top_bloke	uh
04:33:40	top_bloke	i'm done watching tv
04:33:54	top_bloke	now i can get to the real issues
04:33:57	midknight2k3	im making a clock
04:34:00	midknight2k3	for ROCKBOX
04:34:20	top_bloke	?
04:34:24	midknight2k3	such as: "AAOOOOOGAH!" and "DFAD!"
04:34:28	top_bloke	sweet
04:34:36	top_bloke	wait
04:34:42	top_bloke	analog clock?
04:34:56	midknight2k3	perhaps an option Analog or Digital
04:35:01	midknight2k3	or both?
04:35:06	midknight2k3	its analog as is.. soon to be better
04:35:19	top_bloke	so a .rock?
04:35:19	midknight2k3	problems with build tho
04:35:23	midknight2k3	need to re checkout
04:35:29	midknight2k3	actually no
04:35:34	midknight2k3	it cant be
04:35:39	midknight2k3	it has to be part of firmware
04:35:46	midknight2k3	but its small so it wont make a large difference
04:35:47	top_bloke	u know the bounce rock is supposed to have a clock
04:35:52	midknight2k3	you cant read RTC from plugins
04:35:53	midknight2k3	yeah
04:35:59	top_bloke	it says in the manual
04:36:04	midknight2k3	but it tossed the clock cause you cant read RTC from plugins
04:36:05	top_bloke	but it doesnt
04:36:08	midknight2k3	it used to
04:36:11	top_bloke	oh
04:36:11	top_bloke	i see
04:36:12	midknight2k3	till they made it a .rock
04:36:23	midknight2k3	want a secret?
04:36:28	midknight2k3	im working off that code
04:36:31	top_bloke	i see
04:36:33	midknight2k3	:)
04:36:41	midknight2k3	prts of it
04:36:53	midknight2k3	i need to take that code and make it work all together
04:36:55	midknight2k3	then i can change it
04:37:21	top_bloke	so youre just stealing that code?
04:37:21	top_bloke	or borrowing?
04:37:26	top_bloke	yeah thats what i assumed
04:37:26	top_bloke	that youre STEALING it
04:37:29	midknight2k3	no
04:37:32	top_bloke	yeah
04:37:33	midknight2k3	"borrowing"
04:37:36	midknight2k3	temporarily
04:37:39	top_bloke	aka stealing
04:37:39	midknight2k3	until i get it to work
04:37:42	midknight2k3	then changing it
04:37:46	midknight2k3	so no, borrowing
04:37:54	*	midknight2k3 flicks off toppy
04:38:14	top_bloke	why are you making a clock anyway?
04:38:20	midknight2k3	uh
04:38:22	midknight2k3	fun?
04:38:29	midknight2k3	actually im stealing it
04:38:30	midknight2k3	remember?
04:38:33	midknight2k3	im STEALING IT
04:38:44	top_bloke	why not?
04:38:59	top_bloke	code thief
04:39:04	midknight2k3	eat me
04:39:12	top_bloke	stealing that poor code
04:39:17	midknight2k3	lolk
04:39:19	midknight2k3	lol
04:39:20	top_bloke	nah im j/k
04:39:26	midknight2k3	>:(
04:39:29	midknight2k3	i h8 u
04:39:40	top_bloke	lol
04:39:46	top_bloke	damn thats angry
04:39:56	top_bloke	with the eyebrow
04:39:58	*	midknight2k3 farts
04:40:04	midknight2k3	yes it is
04:40:15	top_bloke	LOL
04:41:07	top_bloke	indeed
04:41:08	midknight2k3	ooh eee ah
04:41:19	top_bloke	?
04:42:12	midknight2k3	dfa
04:42:19	top_bloke	d
04:42:40	midknight2k3	dds
04:42:41	midknight2k3	sdd
04:42:42	midknight2k3	dfa
04:43:03	midknight2k3	you are such a dagdjsh jerk
04:43:22	top_bloke	is your clock gonna say dfad?
04:43:31	top_bloke	w0rd
04:43:35	top_bloke	dfad you
04:43:53	midknight2k3	lol
04:43:58	midknight2k3	dfad you too
04:45:16	top_bloke	i'd be cool if rocks were screen savers
04:45:20	top_bloke	it'd
04:45:32	midknight2k3	they are
04:45:37	midknight2k3	just play them and let them go
04:45:42	top_bloke	like they come on after x idle time
04:45:55	top_bloke	they dont come on auto
04:46:07	top_bloke	well that takes work
04:46:14	top_bloke	i mean automatic
04:46:33	top_bloke	when you dont press buttons for a while
04:46:47	midknight2k3	i could do that
04:46:58	top_bloke	that would be dfad!
04:47:04	top_bloke	could
04:47:04	top_bloke	do it!
04:47:04	midknight2k3	lol
04:47:06	midknight2k3	hah
04:47:15	top_bloke	not no could should would
04:47:44	top_bloke	u make too many patches
04:47:48	top_bloke	you have like 30 out right now
04:48:18	top_bloke	u need to put them all into one giant ass patch
04:48:40	midknight2k3	lol
04:48:46	midknight2k3	600MB - The Ultra Patch
04:48:59	top_bloke	and it would change EVERYTHING about rockbox
04:49:26	top_bloke	MIDbox! 1.0
04:49:54	top_bloke	just steal the code and make your own fw
04:50:16	top_bloke	anyway i gotta roll out
04:50:21	top_bloke	laterZ
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04:51:35	midknight2k3	lol
04:56:00	midknight2k3	bye
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05:43:36	pokerjoker	you sleeping
05:47:59	pokerjoker	what is the best version of the daily build
05:49:15	pokerjoker	recorder or recorderv2
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06:50:08	iSheep	Hey, does anyone know where I can learn more about "Panic!" errors?
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07:28:32	dwihno	iSheep: Linus, Zagor and Bagder would be a rough guess :D
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11:20:16	quelsaruk	hi
11:20:42	LinusN	hi
11:34:15	dwihno	Hej hej alla barn!
11:34:23	dwihno	Linus is _THE_ NO #1 barn! :)
11:34:29	quelsaruk	hej dwihno!
11:34:35	quelsaruk	what's barn?
11:34:37	LinusN	dwihno: hejsan alla barn och lennart swahn
11:34:49	quelsaruk	great...
11:35:02	quelsaruk	i'm having a 5th dimension experience right now...
11:35:03	quelsaruk	;)
11:36:42	dwihno	:-)
11:37:45	dwihno	Any good ideas for short domain names?
11:37:58	quelsaruk	hehe.. something like my e-mail name?
11:38:08	quelsaruk	that's really short IMHO
11:38:41	LinusN	www.josemariagarciavaldecasasbernal.es
11:39:32	quelsaruk	you forgot the "escuelatecnicasuperiordecaminoscanalesypuertosuniversidaddegranada"
11:39:41	quelsaruk	:)
11:39:52	LinusN	oh :-)
11:41:51	quelsaruk	dwihno, what's the website for?
11:45:02	dwihno	quelsaruk: just some fun :)
11:48:15	quelsaruk	:)
11:48:17	quelsaruk	umm
11:48:35	quelsaruk	is there anyway to get a winxp admin password??
11:48:58	quelsaruk	i need it to install my jukebox drivers here :(
11:49:16	quelsaruk	and of course.. like always, there's no admin :(
11:55:19	dwihno	\o/
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12:02:49	quelsaruk	time to go
12:03:06	quelsaruk	ha det sa bra!
12:03:11	quelsaruk	;)
12:03:37	dwihno	tack detsamma
12:03:41	dwihno	grismamma :D
12:03:43	dwihno	haha
12:04:34	quelsaruk	agora, pode voc� explicar-me o que � isso??
12:04:36	quelsaruk	;)
12:04:43	quelsaruk	can you tell me what is that?
12:04:45	quelsaruk	pliizz
12:05:06	quelsaruk	tack so mycket is "thank you" no?
12:07:20	LinusN	"tack s� mycket" is "thank you very much"
12:08:24	quelsaruk	:)
12:08:35	quelsaruk	and tack detsamma and gismamma??
12:09:32	LinusN	grismamma is "pig mother" :-)
12:09:46	LinusN	and "tack detsamma" is "thanks to you too"
12:09:47	quelsaruk	that's not really good...
12:10:02	quelsaruk	AFAIK
12:10:10	LinusN	tack detsamma, grismamma is a silly rhyme
12:10:15	quelsaruk	ahhh
12:10:16	quelsaruk	:)
12:10:24	quelsaruk	ok, have to go
12:10:26	quelsaruk	cu later!!
12:10:29	LinusN	cu
12:10:35	quelsaruk	have a nice day all of you, except dwihno ;)
12:10:36	quelsaruk	hehehehe
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12:36:16	tracktheripper	Morning
12:36:17	tracktheripper	:)
12:38:45	tracktheripper	morning Linusn
12:39:55	LinusN	morn
12:40:20	tracktheripper	hi
12:41:19	tracktheripper	any new features in the pipeline?
12:48:58	LinusN	of course :-)
12:49:10	LinusN	but not until 2.1 is out
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13:07:26	tracktheripper	oh ok
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13:17:06	webmind	moin
13:17:08	webmind	oi LinusN
13:17:40	LinusN	hi
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13:28:58	webmind	LinusN, i found an event where it would make no sens to -anyone- to have resume.. :)
13:29:20	webmind	when it has finished its playlist and and then time's out
13:29:34	webmind	there should be no reason to resume then i think ?
13:38:39	LinusN	correct
13:38:54	dwihno	\o/
13:38:59	dwihno	I want lunch! :/
13:39:38	webmind	dwihno, i just had lunch
13:39:40	LinusN	webmind: and it doesn't resume in that case, as far as i know
13:39:45	webmind	fries with peanutsauce!
13:39:48	webmind	LinusN, it does
13:39:59	LinusN	ah, it doesn't spin up the disk
13:40:08	LinusN	so the info doesn't get saved
13:40:15	webmind	yeah
13:41:32	LinusN	suggestion?
13:42:20	LinusN	we could have a "dirty" flag that is checked when the idle timer times out
13:42:37	LinusN	and then saves the data before shutting down
13:47:36	dwihno	webmind: was it yumyum?
13:49:13	webmind	dwihno, ofcourse
13:49:23	webmind	LinusN, yeah
13:55:37	dwihno	LinusN: What did you eat?
13:56:02	LinusN	a banana :-)
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14:00:30	dwihno	?!
14:00:31	dwihno	Not more?!
14:01:30	LinusN	nope, will be giong home soon, for a late lunch
14:08:13	dwihno	:-D
14:08:16	dwihno	Yum!
14:08:18	dwihno	What will you eat?
14:08:26	dwihno	Kebab, starka s�sen? :)
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14:13:49	LinusN	dwihno: had that yesterday
14:13:57	webmind	falafel!
14:17:09	dwihno	LinusN: You did?! You are young kebab padawan! :-D
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16:34:52	pL\|neo	hi jemand da ?
16:35:42	dwihno	Ich bin hier.
16:35:48	dwihno	Kann ich dich hilfen? :)
16:36:13	pL\|neo	ja
16:36:27	pL\|neo	wo bekomme ioch chip8 games her und wie installiere ich die =
16:38:27	pL\|neo	?
16:39:29	pL\|neo	where can I find chip8 games ??? and how do I install them on my recorder ?
16:41:01	*	pL\|neo pL\|neo schleicht sich mit einem b�sen >:-)) an dwihno
16:41:03	*	pL\|neo packt sein Megafon aus und br�llt Wach auf Schnarchnase!!!! in dwihno's Ohr ;-))
16:41:14	pL\|neo	gey come on!
16:41:17	dwihno	Hm
16:41:26	dwihno	Ich hab niemals die chip8 games gespielt :)
16:41:37	pL\|neo	dann wirz zeit !
16:41:40	dwihno	Das Archos ist nur f�r mp3s :)
16:41:47	pL\|neo	nix da
16:41:52	dwihno	(und othelo) :)
16:41:52	pL\|neo	rockbox mein ich
16:42:36	dwihno	rockbox ist gut f�r die z�hne :)
16:42:44	pL\|neo	und wieso hat die sprache deutsch soviel feherl auf der rockbox ??? war doch vorher net
16:43:26	pL\|neo	zb men�eintr�ge haben fehler
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16:44:17	pL\|neo	du kannst doch gar kein deutsch oder ? :))
16:44:36	dwihno	Ich verstehe dich :-)
16:44:53	pL\|neo	aber du bist net deutsch oder ?=
16:45:10	dwihno	Ich bin der blaue Schwede! :D
16:45:18	pL\|neo	alles klar
16:45:24	dwihno	\o/
16:45:56	pL\|neo	ey ich will doch einfach nur die chip8 games zum laufen bekommen
16:46:24	dwihno	Obwohl du fehler findet im die dateis der spraches, du sollst das fixen :)
16:46:39	dwihno	Du musst die chip8 spiele herunterladen
16:46:48	pL\|neo	ich selba ?
16:46:55	pL\|neo	ja wo kann ich die runterladen ?
16:47:06	dwihno	ich habe keine anung :-)
16:47:16	pL\|neo	und wenn ich die habe was dann ?=
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16:47:35	dwihno	Die Rockbox ist nicht f�r spiele - hur othelo :)
16:47:44	pL\|neo	doch doch !
16:47:55	dwihno	Ich glaube du brauchst die chip8 emulator
16:48:28	pL\|neo	wenn ich auf plugins geh dann steht doch da was mit chip8
16:50:18	dwihno	hm
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16:51:44	pL\|neo	ohh man
16:53:04	dwihno	Na, wie geht es? :)
16:53:17	pL\|neo	schlecht :(
16:54:27	dwihno	Jetzt soll' och nach hause fahren.
16:54:32	dwihno	n'abend :)
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16:57:09	pL\|neo	jojoj hau ma ab _:)
16:58:39	pL\|neo	why has the german language so much bugs on rockboxXx ???
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17:01:21	pL\|neo	hello =
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17:13:00	ozric01	hi
17:14:39	ozric01	pL\|neo: are you awake?
17:16:10	ozric01	anyway - chip8 games gibt's hier: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=628509&group_id=44306&atid=439120
17:16:41	ozric01	...und hier: http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/games/chip/
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17:22:37	pL\|neo	yes
17:22:48	pL\|neo	deutsch =
17:22:49	pL\|neo	?
17:23:18	pL\|neo	bekomm ich die dann auch auf der rockbox zu laufen ?
17:23:25	pL\|neo	ozric01
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17:28:04	ozric01	pL\|neo: einfach die .ch8 datei "playen"
17:28:34	pL\|neo	und wo muss ich die reinsetzten die games ?
17:28:49	ozric01	egal!
17:29:16	pL\|neo	der findet die dann und ich kann die ausw�hlen oder was ?
17:29:54	ozric01	ne - du suchst sie im file browser und spielst sie..
17:30:14	pL\|neo	kannst du mir plz deine games schicken �ber irc ??? sind ja net gros oder
17:30:40	ozric01	aber einige, muss sie erst packen...
17:31:13	pL\|neo	hast du immer die neusten updates von dailybuild ?
17:31:40	pL\|neo	oder welche version hast du ?
17:32:01	ozric01	nee, 2-3 wochen zureuck. selber kompiliert
17:32:26	pL\|neo	weil bei mir sind voll die fehler im men� in deutsch
17:32:44	ozric01	neuestes build?
17:32:48	pL\|neo	ja
17:32:50	pL\|neo	von heut
17:33:07	pL\|neo	also nur auf deutsch sind die fehler
17:33:09	ozric01	probier ich spaeter mal. mbei mir is alles ok
17:33:33	ozric01	(30.11.03 oder so)
17:33:43	ozric01	quatsch 30.10
17:34:14	pL\|neo	ich hatt meinr recorder lang nimmer an weil die festplatte net ging
17:35:41	ozric01	wie schick ich dir jetzt die games, kenn mich mit irc net so aus...
17:36:08	pL\|neo	mach rechtsklick auf mein namen
17:36:14	pL\|neo	dann dcc >> send file
17:36:24	pL\|neo	oder dcc send
17:36:59	pL\|neo	kelw so klein
17:37:09	ozric01	winzig!
17:38:06	ozric01	das kleinste hat 38 byte (!)
17:38:29	pL\|neo	ok ich setz die einfach in ein ordner und denn dann ins root oder ?
17:38:42	ozric01	z.B.
17:39:11	pL\|neo	so
17:39:22	pL\|neo	und dann auf plugins und dann chip8
17:39:35	ozric01	ne, ne
17:39:38	pL\|neo	sondern =
17:39:43	ozric01	einfach in den neuen ordner
17:39:48	pL\|neo	ja
17:40:00	ozric01	und dann ein game waehlen
17:40:05	ozric01	und dann play
17:40:09	pL\|neo	achso einfach geht das ...
17:40:10	pL\|neo	kewl :)=
17:40:28	ozric01	:)
17:40:29	pL\|neo	gibz da dann auch upates und so ?
17:40:41	ozric01	von den games?
17:40:53	pL\|neo	ja also neue games mein ich
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17:41:25	ozric01	guck mal den 2ten Link an, den ich vorher gesagt hab
17:41:52	ozric01	viellicht gibts da nochwas...
17:42:13	pL\|neo	hab ich die noch net drin ?
17:42:30	ozric01	wahrscheinlich ;)
17:42:58	pL\|neo	ok dann saug ich die
17:43:13	pL\|neo	kann ich die auch zoggn w�hren mugge lauft ja oder ?
17:43:49	ozric01	keine ahnung...
17:44:22	ozric01	das sind die spiele, wo halt kein copyright drauf ist
17:45:35	pL\|neo	wieso heisen die hb 48 ?? laufen aber oder ?
17:45:39	elinenbe	blah!!
17:45:40	elinenbe	:D
17:45:58	ozric01	yep - rename!
17:46:38	pL\|neo	was genau .ch8 oder was ?
17:46:46	ozric01	jo
17:47:22	pL\|neo	und was is mit den word datein wo dabei sind, brauch ich die ?
17:48:11	ozric01	net wirklich ist auch kein word - normaler text (kannste mit'm text-viewer auf der box anschauen...)
17:48:29	pL\|neo	ok
17:48:37	ozric01	aber umbenennen -> .txt
17:49:28	pL\|neo	wieso ? brauch ich se doch ?
17:49:53	ozric01	ne, aber da sind die spiele kurz beschrieben
17:50:17	pL\|neo	also was word war in txt machen =?
17:50:47	ozric01	.doc -> .txt
17:51:12	ozric01	rename
17:52:14	ozric01	muss weg, ciao
17:52:20	pL\|neo	cu
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20:32:37	JackW	Hey
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20:38:01	JackW	What is Recorderv2?
20:38:34	tracktheripper	its the FM recorder minus the FM radio tuner
20:39:03	JackW	What so like the recorder except with the different battery and look? Or is there more to it?
20:39:42	tracktheripper	well it has the li-ion battery, the headphone socket on the SIDE of the device and no digital out
20:40:21	JackW	Oh sounds...urm....I don't know. Not that much of an improvment.
20:40:34	tracktheripper	its more of a disprovement
20:40:53	tracktheripper	proprietory batteries, no digital out, headphone socket in awkward position
20:41:22	JackW	Everytime someone makes a Game Rock, is it automaticly included in the projects, or have some people made them without them going into the main project?
20:41:46	tracktheripper	dunno
20:42:20	JackW	Oh ok. I was just wondering (I didn't really want any though)
20:42:37	tracktheripper	the Gmini looks goood except you have to pay to download plugins
20:43:04	JackW	What is the Gmini (URL?). Pay to downloading plugins? Whats that about?
20:43:23	tracktheripper	its their new HD player that plays WMA and MP3 and WAV
20:43:44	JackW	Oh sounds nice.
20:43:55	JackW	Do the plugins do intresting things?
20:44:07	tracktheripper	but to have the extras like recording, radio tuner, and compactflash reader you have to pay to download them
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20:45:54	JackW	Sounds stupid. I suppose it will never be supported by Rockbox?
20:46:25	tracktheripper	probably not
20:47:09	JackW	Mmm
20:47:19	tracktheripper	unless the plugins can be cracked
20:48:02	JackW	lol, I'm an idiot.
20:48:10	JackW	Just deleted my old Rockbox dir.
20:48:23	JackW	Lost my setting, chip8 games, downloaded fonts, hehe.
20:48:48	[IDC]Dragon	hi uski!
20:48:54	uski	[IDC]Dragon: hiya :)
20:49:01	uski	got "it" ?
20:49:10	[IDC]Dragon	no :-(
20:49:19	uski	damn, i hope it will arrive tomorrow
20:49:33	[IDC]Dragon	could have started hacking it tonight, what a pity
20:49:49	[IDC]Dragon	yea, so do I hope
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20:50:30	[IDC]Dragon	My name was on it, right? (not just the company)
20:50:36	uski	i hope it was not stolen, fortunately it is well insured :)
20:50:37	uski	yea
20:50:40	uski	of course
20:51:05	[IDC]Dragon	OK, just recently I had my name missing ona delivery.
20:51:08	uski	i copy/pasted the addr you gave me, i only reduced the size of ur name to like 12
20:51:16	uski	the rest is 16-18
20:51:42	uski	there is also my addr as sender in case of problem, they will send it back to me
20:52:09	[IDC]Dragon	I'm curious on how your player looks
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20:54:19	uski	hahahah
20:54:23	uski	it is bare
20:54:27	uski	i don't have the case of it
20:54:40	uski	i alse changed the two leds (red/green) to PLCC2 ones
20:54:48	[IDC]Dragon	Oops, just a the PCB set?
20:54:48	uski	to increase visibility as there is no case
20:54:57	uski	well it is assembled and working
20:55:11	uski	you'll have to put the batteries withn elastic
20:55:15	uski	with 2 elastics
20:55:18	[IDC]Dragon	"assembled" without a case?
20:55:20	uski	i got it as this
20:55:22	uski	yea
20:55:26	uski	well
20:55:34	uski	the only part i have is the buttons/LCD holder
20:55:38	uski	so the lcd is in place
20:55:44	uski	but i don't ahve the bumpers, ...
20:55:48	uski	you'll see
20:55:51	uski	it is usable for devel
20:55:55	uski	but not for real use
20:55:58	[IDC]Dragon	Was it run over by a truck?
20:56:08	uski	nah, but its story is strange
20:56:10	[IDC]Dragon	devel or devil?
20:56:30	uski	the original user told me "it does not work, the browser shows garbage chars instead of the real filenames"
20:56:45	uski	so i thought of a data bus error between the MCU and the HD
20:56:49	uski	but i was not able to find any
20:57:04	uski	then i thought that probably he was lying to give himself a reason to buy another mp3 player :))
20:57:23	uski	anyway, i could not test it: i don't have a spare 2.5" drive
20:57:28	[IDC]Dragon	Lemme guess: anothe IPod user?
20:57:31	uski	the onyl thing that works is the uart boot
20:57:36	uski	nah, creative jukebox zen
20:57:42	[IDC]Dragon	I'll try it with a disk
20:57:48	uski	quite cool btw
20:57:53	uski	what he told me is impossible
20:58:00	uski	if there was an error in the data bus of the HD
20:58:07	uski	the firmware would not detect the FAT
20:58:11	uski	and it would not boot at all
20:58:16	[IDC]Dragon	right
20:58:18	uski	or it was an error on the HD itself
20:58:23	uski	that's why i think it is working
20:58:25	[IDC]Dragon	more likely
20:58:32	[IDC]Dragon	I'll see
20:58:40	uski	there is still my 2.5mm jack plug for UART
20:58:51	uski	if you don't use it, please keep it; it's precious ;)
20:59:03	[IDC]Dragon	shure
20:59:03	uski	=> don't throw it away :)
20:59:38	[IDC]Dragon	I also have 2.5 mm as my "house standard" for mobile phones RS232
20:59:49	uski	yea
20:59:54	uski	i am sure we have inverted RX/TX
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21:00:00	[IDC]Dragon	If the pin assignment fits, I can just plug it in
21:00:03	uski	so you'll have to solder it another way ;)
21:00:11	uski	well, it is the same pinout as Casio calculators
21:00:14	uski	and Casio organizers
21:00:35	[IDC]Dragon	I don't remember which way I did mine
21:00:46	[IDC]Dragon	was just arbitrary
21:00:49	uski	neither do i: i can't tell you where is the RX
21:00:54	uski	nor the TX lol
21:01:07	[IDC]Dragon	I'll figure it out.
21:01:29	uski	yea
21:01:29	uski	haah you will laugh when you'll see the box
21:01:44	uski	it is more the devil box than the normal one ;)
21:01:56	uski	with the "sound improvement" tantalum capacitors
21:02:09	[IDC]Dragon	I bought these universal headset adapters for our mobile phones
21:02:09	uski	i added heatshrink into some places to make it more "secure"
21:02:24	[IDC]Dragon	and converted them to be RS232 adapters
21:02:40	[IDC]Dragon	Hence the serial 2.5 mm
21:03:28	[IDC]Dragon	Have you gotten high capacity tantalums?
21:03:36	uski	yea
21:03:48	uski	they are SMD
21:03:51	[IDC]Dragon	You'd need at least 220 uF
21:03:53	uski	like 440�F total
21:04:00	uski	for each channel
21:04:06	[IDC]Dragon	good.
21:04:15	uski	i can't remember the value i used, i did this mod while the archos was still working for its original owner
21:05:06	uski	but it is more than 200�F for each chan.
21:05:26	uski	btw, to do the UART boot mod i used two 0402 resistors and one 1206
21:05:37	uski	never touche the 0402 resistors or you will surely unsolder them
21:05:47	[IDC]Dragon	impressive to solder
21:05:53	uski	im used to do it
21:06:10	uski	it is impressing to see it fits on a via ;)
21:06:10	uski	-ing +ive
21:06:19	[IDC]Dragon	I need a stereo microscope for theat
21:06:23	uski	really ?
21:06:23	[IDC]Dragon	that
21:06:43	[IDC]Dragon	At least it helps a lot!
21:07:05	uski	if you broke these resistors, simply use some wirewrap wire to solder two bigger resistors
21:07:17	uski	you can eevn use 0207 resistors (the throught holes "standard" ones)
21:07:21	uski	as there is no case, it is not a concern
21:07:37	uski	but before doing anything, write down on a paper where the two resistors are soldered
21:07:44	[IDC]Dragon	don't worry, I'll find my way
21:07:49	uski	so if you remove them accidentaly you can replace others
21:07:50	uski	yea ;)
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21:09:26	uski	simply hope you will get it...
21:10:10	[IDC]Dragon	I will, don't worry.
21:10:43	[IDC]Dragon	Man, what happens if you'd have to ship something _really_ important? ;-)
21:10:58	uski	UPS/FedEx
21:11:07	uski	i would never send it using the regular post
21:11:19	uski	and i never send anything out without an insurance
21:11:25	uski	i lost too many things...
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22:45:23	huz	... I was going to ask when are you going to release but if i read well the topic, it's going to happen ! well done
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22:55:22	tracktheripper	hi
22:55:30	thedude02	somebody's actually here!!!!!!!!
22:55:31	thedude02	hi
22:56:08	thedude02	ever been to www.jokes.com?
22:56:21	thedude02	cool site with tens of thousands of good jokes
22:56:28	thedude02	and with equally many bad jokes
22:58:21	tracktheripper	lol
22:58:36	tracktheripper	my digital camera went in for repair today
22:58:47	thedude02	what cam
22:58:55	tracktheripper	samsung digimax
22:59:02	thedude02	k
22:59:10	tracktheripper	the CCD is faulty
22:59:40	thedude02	ah
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