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#rockbox log for 2003-12-09

00:03:08 Quit earHertz ("ChatZilla 0.9.46 [Mozilla rv:1.5/0]")
00:03:46midknight2k3zagor: my clock is about an inch from done :D
00:04:23[IDC]Dragongoodnight folks!
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00:26:13midknight2k3brb
00:52:28 Quit edx ()
00:58:23DJBazhi where can i download sh-elf-gcc?
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01:02:22hardeepDJBaz: you can build it yourself following the directions here: http://rockbox.haxx.se/cross-gcc.html
01:02:40DJBazhardeep, im running gentoo linux
01:02:50DJBaz:P
01:03:21hardeepDJBaz: that's fine. you should have everything you need to build it under gentoo
01:03:40DJBazwhich: no sh-elf-gcc
01:03:46DJBaz:|
01:04:04hardeepDJBaz: right, you need to build it
01:04:11hardeepDJBaz: following the directions above
01:04:16DJBazkk
01:06:51DJBazgonna compile gcc 3.3
01:07:07DJBazthis will take a few years :S
01:15:42midknight2k3back
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01:44:09midk2k3hi hardeep
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01:53:10midk2k3EAR!
01:53:21earHertzurp
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02:04:46rosshello
02:04:56diddystar5hi
02:05:25 Nick midk2k3 is now known as midknight2k3 (zakk@ACA48FA9.ipt.aol.com)
02:06:14 Quit diddystar5 (Client Quit)
02:06:20rossI have a jb rec 20 and flashed the wrong rom, in a delusional state. the v2 is now flashed 0n my jbr. and I cannot use it.
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02:06:39midknight2k3firmware flash
02:06:39midknight2k3or ucl?
02:06:58rossfirmware
02:07:21rosscan acess the rec but buttons do not work right
02:07:29midknight2k3hmm
02:07:32midknight2k3like
02:07:38midknight2k3you played a ucl
02:07:40midknight2k3or ran firmware flash
02:07:50rossplayed a ucl
02:07:53midknight2k3oh
02:07:55midknight2k3fixable
02:08:07midknight2k3get a new ajbrec.ajz
02:08:13midknight2k3and put it in root
02:08:27midknight2k3and then a new ucl
02:08:29midknight2k3and put it in root
02:08:36midknight2k3then do f1+on, and reflash
02:09:00rossthe f1 on only brings up the charge screen
02:09:10midknight2k3huh?
02:09:19midknight2k3uhh
02:09:24midknight2k3try f2+on
02:09:24midknight2k3lol
02:09:42zei'm going to oregon tomorrow
02:09:50zei'll be gone pretty much all month
02:10:00midknight2k3really
02:10:04zeso don't be suprised when i don't respond heh
02:10:09midknight2k3bye ze
02:10:11midknight2k3well miss you
02:10:23rossit goes into debug mode
02:10:25rossnbye z
02:10:34midknight2k3debug mode?
02:10:36midknight2k3what the
02:11:02rossright, i f'd it good, i think the serial mod is the only way
02:11:28midknight2k3wwait
02:11:31midknight2k3DEBUG mode?
02:11:48rosspress on to debug
02:12:02rossata error -1 after that
02:12:20midknight2k3try f3 and on
02:12:44rosssame
02:14:53rosssorry, only goes into archos charging mode when plugged in while f1 is press. tried f2 and f3 and no luck
02:15:05midknight2k3WAIt
02:15:08midknight2k3at charging mode
02:15:13midknight2k3press PN
02:15:14midknight2k3ON
02:16:13rosssorry, tries to load rock 2.1 and starts a debug screen or something
02:16:27midknight2k3hmm
02:16:40midknight2k3buttons are crazy?
02:16:45midknight2k3what happens with just ON
02:17:18rossyes, ata error: -1 press on to debug
02:17:32midknight2k3hm
02:19:49rossis there any way to flash via usb? I know a stupid question
02:19:59midknight2k3hm
02:20:04midknight2k3does usb mode boot the player?
02:21:03rossonly when In do it from the archos charging mode.
02:21:37midknight2k3hmm
02:22:40rossI tried to place a new ajbrec.ajz and a new ucl but after boot buttons are acting all weird and i can not start the ucl
02:22:51midknight2k3try all of them
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02:23:58rossyes, in all combinations I can think of. just scrolls up and down. can not play the ucl
02:24:17midknight2k3what does each button do
02:24:23midknight2k3must be a problematic thingymajig
02:24:24rossthe f3 scrolls up and the down srolls down
02:24:29midknight2k3lol
02:25:12rossright, loader the wrong flash it is a jbrec not a jb2. LOL
02:25:26midknight2k3wait
02:25:32midknight2k3and it accepted the jb2 file
02:25:38DJBazross, i done that too
02:25:39DJBaz:P
02:25:39midknight2k3even though its a jubr?
02:25:45midknight2k3but his wont boot
02:25:47midknight2k3even f1 on
02:25:53rossyes it did
02:26:12DJBazoh
02:26:22midknight2k3did?
02:26:23midknight2k3oh
02:26:26midknight2k3but the buttons are blow
02:26:34rossdjbaz did you recover it?
02:26:41DJBazross, yeah
02:26:48DJBazjst on+f1'd it
02:26:58DJBazthen flashed it again with the correct version
02:27:07rosswon't work for me
02:27:22DJBazem
02:27:35DJBazdo u have the backup rom image on the archos hard drive?
02:27:42rossgets stuck at third bar
02:27:46rossyes
02:28:39rosscannot load
02:29:04DJBazstrange
02:29:10DJBazdo u still have the power cord in yeah?
02:29:29rossyeah
02:29:55DJBazgood
02:30:12DJBazso when u boot up normally u cant scroll etc yeah?
02:30:57rosscan scroll jumps around in lumps and only can scroll up and down but with the wrong buttons
02:31:16DJBazexactly what happened here but i could on+f1
02:32:15rossI can't, goes into debug mode when not plugged in
02:32:57DJBazi have no idea man, sorry
02:33:02rossjust goes into the archos charge mode
02:33:06DJBazu will beable to fix it, jst i dont know
02:33:10DJBaz*how
02:33:17DJBazi need to go now anyway, cya
02:33:18rosstthanks for the help dj and midnight
02:33:25midknight2k3cya
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02:33:39rossIf I figure it out I will tell ya
02:34:20midknight2k3yea
02:34:23midknight2k3please do
02:34:25midknight2k3cya
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02:53:00diddystar5MT: are you there?
02:53:11midknight2k3mt is dumb
02:53:13midknight2k3try hardeep
02:53:15midknight2k3or diddystar5
02:53:28diddystar5uhh
02:53:31diddystar5hi diddystar5
02:53:35diddystar5hi
02:53:37midknight2k3uh
02:53:38midknight2k3oops
02:53:40diddystar5whats up?
02:53:45midknight2k3not much
02:53:45midknight2k3you?
02:53:52diddystar5nothing much
02:54:02diddystar5hey stop it
02:54:07diddystar5i was talking to diddystar5
02:54:10diddystar5lol
02:54:21midknight2k3lol
02:56:32 Quit hardeep ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!")
02:56:39diddystar5lol
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03:04:35MThi
03:04:53diddystar5MT: wanna see apic of track?
03:05:02MTnot particularly
03:05:11diddystar5its funny
03:05:13diddystar5please
03:05:19diddystar5lol
03:08:19midknight2k3dsdf
03:08:21midknight2k3its funny
03:09:04midknight2k3diddy
03:09:07midknight2k3you stole my line
03:09:09midknight2k3"sudden death"
03:09:33diddystar5it wasnt your to begin wiht lol
03:09:51diddystar5i think it was mathangas
03:09:57diddystar5but i just used it once
03:09:57midknight2k3i have it on file
03:09:58midknight2k3lol
03:10:25diddystar5bye
03:10:29diddystar5bye
03:10:30midknight2k3w?
03:10:31midknight2k3bye
03:10:35midknight2k3thx for fix
03:10:41diddystar5fix?
03:10:56midknight2k3clock
03:11:26diddystar5ok i didnt know i made a fix
03:11:27diddystar5lol
03:11:33midknight2k3well
03:11:35midknight2k3the indent
03:11:40diddystar5yeah...
03:11:42diddystar5ok bye
03:11:44midknight2k3bye
03:11:47midknight2k3:D
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04:03:07midknight2k3ear
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05:02:36midknight2k3YEAH WOO
05:02:39midknight2k3MY THINGS DONE
05:02:53midknight2k3MY NEW PATCH IS UP
05:02:55midknight2k3http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=856632&group_id=44306&atid=439120
05:03:00midknight2k3try it and love it
05:03:12midknight2k3it's merged or off with zagor's head :-)
05:03:37midknight2k3<:-|=)
05:03:59elinenbebrb
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05:04:06midknight2k3ITS DONE
05:04:07midknight2k3WOO WOO
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05:04:52midknight2k3WOO WOO
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05:06:23midknight2k3ELINENBE
05:06:34elinenbeyeah?
05:06:50midknight2k3MY PATCH IS OUT
05:06:56midknight2k3result of many hours of hard work
05:06:58midknight2k3test it will you
05:07:00elinenbeI saw it. I will check it out.
05:07:07midknight2k3putting up rec version
05:08:53midknight2k3gotta go
05:08:53midknight2k3bye all
05:08:55midknight2k3try it
05:09:01midknight2k3rec ver precompiled up
05:09:05midknight2k3no reson not to
05:09:09midknight2k3:) bye
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08:36:01klax0nhi there
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16:13:08heiner-ichHi
16:13:41heiner-ichCan anyone tell me waht is the difference between recorder and recorderv2?
16:14:07heiner-ichHow can I dicover which version I have?
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18:58:06quelsaruk:)
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19:11:38quelsarukhi track
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19:30:12trackhi quels
19:30:16tracksorry phone rang
19:31:46quelsaruk:)
19:31:59tracklol
19:32:08trackSeen the Gmini?
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19:41:18quelsaruk??
19:41:50quelsarukim going to make a mod in my archos, using my hp48gx as a external keyboard
19:41:52quelsarukheheh
19:42:12quelsarukusing the serial port or the IR
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22:30:07groovingandiHi
22:30:20[IDC]Dragonhi there!
22:30:55groovingandiI have my sony unilink - rs232 interface almost working!
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22:31:17[IDC]Dragonaha, good!
22:31:30[IDC]Dragonwhich controller?
22:31:39groovingandiatmega8
22:31:57[IDC]DragonI have the same one here
22:32:18[IDC]Dragonwanted to use that for mine
22:32:28groovingandiyou told me about friends of you who are working on a half duplex rs232 driver for rockbox
22:32:29[IDC]Dragonuntil I found out I can go without
22:32:59[IDC]Dragonnot working, it's ready since over half a year
22:33:58groovingandido they have plans to implement "standard" remote commands?
22:34:20groovingandiif they need a interface with controller and me too, it would be silly to develop it twice
22:34:28groovingandithe rockbox side i mean
22:34:31[IDC]Dragonyes, a standard set for cdc control
22:34:57groovingandiyes, standard commands for next song etc.
22:35:21[IDC]Dragonsend me an email, I'll link you
22:35:45groovingandithere was a long discussion about it on the mailing list a few months ago, but nothing happened
22:35:56groovingandioh that would be great...
22:36:03[IDC]Dragona long discussion?
22:36:27groovingandiyes, about a standard remote command set, not only for cdc
22:36:39groovingandisomebody wanted to build a universal remote with display
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22:39:52PokerJokerhi
22:40:02groovingandihi
22:40:10PokerJokerhowsit going holmes
22:42:17PokerJokeri gots me a new 40 gig harddrive, holmes
22:42:20groovingandi[IDC]Dragon: I found it, if you're interested
22:42:53groovingandihttp://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-10/0081.shtml
22:43:00groovingandihttp://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-10/0196.shtml
22:46:03PokerJokerwhat are those threads about?
22:46:58groovingandiabout the use of the bidirectional remote pin for car cd changer emulation and universal remotes
22:48:55PokerJokeroh ok. thats cool. hey maybe you can answer me this...
22:49:06PokerJokerWhere do i buy one of those 8mb chips to upgrade the archos
22:49:27groovingandiwhere do you live?
22:49:35PokerJokerTennessee
22:50:22[IDC]Dragongroovingandi: phew, looong thread...
22:51:05groovingandiPokerJoker: IIRC, the 8mb chips are the same ones as used for upgrading palm pilots
22:51:50groovingandi[IDC]Dragon: yes, looong thread with looong posts
22:52:50[IDC]Dragonanyway, the remote control sends always 11xxxxxx (in binary)
22:53:01[IDC]Dragonwith an x for each button
22:53:17[IDC]Dragonso byte range 0xC0-0xFF
22:53:35[IDC]Dragonwe picked another "quadrant"
22:53:41[IDC]Dragon10xxxxxxx
22:53:53[IDC]Dragonfor single byte commands
22:54:12[IDC]Dragonno conflicts then
22:54:32groovingandiok
22:54:45[IDC]Dragonthe external box has to request all the information it needs with those commands
22:54:56groovingandithat was my thought, too
22:55:01[IDC]Dragonand of cause some of them are control commands.
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22:55:19groovingandithe box says "give me title" and rockbox answers
22:55:43[IDC]Dragonthe Archos is always listening, never sends unless requested
22:56:03groovingandigreat, exactly as I proposed a year ago lol
22:56:09[IDC]Dragonso we can keep half duplex without collisions
22:56:37groovingandithis was the main part of the long discussion: should rockbox send without request
22:56:50[IDC]DragonI think not
22:56:59groovingandifull ack
22:57:19[IDC]Dragonafk, brb
22:58:04groovingandisorry, what is "afk, brb"?
22:59:14PokerJokerit means he is away and will return in a few minutes
22:59:29groovingandithank you
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23:01:11PokerJokerthe FEDs were probably at his doorstep. Or his landlord. So he is hiding
23:01:32groovingandiPokerJoker: did you read this? http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-09/0179.shtml
23:02:05groovingandioops forget it
23:02:28groovingandisomeone had some spare chips, but all are claimed
23:04:03PokerJokerahh i see. thanks man, i will email him right now
23:04:14PokerJokeryou have a nice archos?
23:04:26groovingandiyes, but not with 8mb
23:04:44PokerJokeri would like to upgrade mine. that would be nice
23:04:51PokerJokeri got a 40 gig too
23:05:12PokerJokerwhat kind to you have
23:05:35groovingandithought about 8mb too, but I don't see a big advantage except the coolness factor
23:05:53groovingandiI have a recorder, upgraded to 60gig
23:06:27PokerJokerholy pooop
23:06:34elinenbeZagor: you there?
23:06:41Zagoryup
23:06:48PokerJokeryou can put a lot of Carpenters on 60Gb!
23:07:16elinenbeZagor: any chance you will committ Hardeep's dynamic playlist viewer code into the CVS?
23:07:21PokerJokerMy Studio20 broke, the HD failed. It still spins, but i cant seem to get it to show up on bios
23:07:24elinenbeZagor: anytime soon?
23:08:17PokerJokerSucks that my old 20gb is dead. i think its still got life in it, but i cant get it reformatted :(
23:08:25Zagori'll talk to him about it. i haven't looked at it, actually :)
23:08:27groovingandiPokerJoker: did you try it with a 3,5" - 2,5" adaptor
23:08:50elinenbeZagor: it is an awesome patch... and while you are at it, make the viewer F3 :D
23:08:55elinenbeZagor: hehe
23:09:08PokerJokeryessir. on a machine that was running Gateway WinME. I dont like ME or Gateway.
23:09:27_aLFwill you work on UI on next release ?
23:09:38PokerJokerIt didnt recognize the HD.
23:10:48groovingandimmh... didn't recognize it at all or simply no access?
23:11:01PokerJokerno recognize at all
23:12:06groovingandiand now you have a 40gig?
23:12:25PokerJokeri just ordered a 40 gig. but im going to try again to revive the 20gig
23:13:11groovingandithere are nice external usb housings available if you get it running again
23:13:54PokerJokeri actually have a Studio shell i can put it in
23:14:06PokerJokerMy main archos is a Recorder 20
23:14:33PokerJokerthats the main reason i want to get the 20 running, so i can rebuild my studio
23:15:09groovingandiand what do you do with the 40gig hd then?
23:15:41PokerJokernot sure yet. i might put it in the recorder20. or i might put it in the studio20.
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23:16:26groovingandibut then, you still have one 20gig left, don't you?
23:17:00PokerJokeri have one broken 20, one 40 gig ordered, and a working 20gb in a warranty-sealed recorder20
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23:18:39groovingandiif you get the broken 20 gig running again, you can put it in an external housing
23:18:56PokerJokeryessir, u are right.
23:19:07PokerJokeri forgot that i had ordered the 40gb
23:19:12groovingandilol
23:19:29PokerJoker40 is really big. who has that many mp3s, that they enjoy listening to?
23:19:50PokerJokeri have only 6 gigs filled up on my recorder20,
23:20:09Zagori have an 80-gig, more than half-filled with stuff i listen to
23:21:07groovingandii see it as "always available mobile music archive"
23:22:21PokerJokeryes. but i never listened to most of the stuff i had
23:23:01PokerJokerhave you guys seen that ben stiller show skit on "lucky cloverS"
23:26:21PokerJokeryou guys have FTP sites with mp3s or something?
23:27:09groovingandime not
23:28:40PokerJokerdamn. it rocks
23:30:18groovingandisorry, have to go now... bye
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23:55:13PokerJokerhave you guyys seen this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3063607398
23:55:19PokerJokerI dont know what to make of it......

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