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#rockbox log for 2003-12-14

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00:34:57trackhi earhurts
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00:38:53earHertzI'm a bastard
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01:14:26pfavrdiddystar5: you mentioned something about log vu-meter?
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01:17:29diddystar5i wanted the scale for it to be logarithmic
01:18:29pfavrOk, how good resolution do you need? I think it would be possible to just find out what the most significant bit which is 1 is...
01:18:46pfavrso if you have a 16bit number
01:19:04pfavryou would have 15 "leds"
01:19:43diddystar5do you know here the current vu_meter code is?
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01:21:15pfavrsorry, I did not have a look at it (yet)
01:21:34diddystar5take a look first
01:21:48diddystar5it is at
01:21:57diddystar5ill be back in about 10 minutes
01:22:03diddystar5im switching to linux
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01:25:34Sebulba02it takes 10 mins to reboot, eek
01:27:50pfavr(and maybe go find a beer)
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01:53:29pfavrmaybe it was not just reboot - maybe diddystar5 is installing linux (for the first time;-)
01:55:37Sebulba02not in 10 mins
01:55:48Sebulba02I don't care what your installing
01:57:37scott666what if its knoppix?
01:57:57Sebulba02would take less than 10 mins
01:58:17Sebulba02at least I hope
02:07:46pfavrwhat cpu is in archos (e.g. recorder 20)?
02:09:03pfavr(found it myself: H-1)
02:09:20pfavr(correction: SH-1)
02:16:30pfavrmethinks either diddystar5 is installing linux from scratch or fallen asleep
02:19:58Sebulba02or drunk too much and passed out :)
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02:24:59diddystar5pfavr: hey, did you look at the vu meter?
02:34:13Sebulba02that was a fast, err, hour.
02:34:27pfavrdid you install linux?
02:34:41diddystar5no ir an knoppix
02:34:57Sebulba02& it took an hour?
02:35:07diddystar5i tried to connect to aol, but peng wasnt working right :|
02:35:47diddystar5so i just did a little work on rockbox code
02:38:39diddystar5pfavr: any ideas for a logarithmic scale?
02:41:30pfavrdiddystar5: yes, but I'm not sure if it is sufficient for you purpose
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02:42:02pfavr[02:41:38] <pfavr>
02:42:52pfavrdiddystar5: you get 15 integer output levels
02:43:06diddystar501.53.29 # <pfavr> maybe it was not just reboot - maybe diddystar5 is installing linux (for the first time;-)
02:43:07diddystar501.55.34 # <Sebulba02> heh
02:43:07diddystar501.55.37 # <Sebulba02> not in 10 mins
02:43:07DBUGEnqueued KICK diddystar5
02:43:07diddystar501.55.48 # <Sebulba02> I don't care what your installing
02:43:07diddystar501.57.37 # <scott666> what if its knoppix?
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02:43:08diddystar501.57.57 # <Sebulba02> would take less than 10 mins
02:43:10diddystar501.58.17 # <Sebulba02> at least I hope
02:43:12diddystar502.16.30 # <pfavr> methinks either diddystar5 is installing linux from scratch or fallen asleep
02:43:14diddystar502.19.58 # <Sebulba02> or drunk too much and passed out :)
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02:43:29diddystar5but i dont think i would be getting drunk
02:43:33diddystar5im only 13
02:44:15diddystar5and i was actually going to install peng so i could get online, but it dosent like knoppix
02:44:43pfavrok, the idea is as follows: you just find the most significant bit which is 1
02:45:51diddystar5im kinda of a new programmer, so go slow :)
02:46:31pfavrif the value is less than 1 you get 0
02:46:40pfavrif the value is less than 2 you get 1
02:46:49pfavrif the value is less than 4 you get 2
02:47:01pfavrif the value is less than 8 you get 3
02:47:20diddystar5i get the idea of how that goes....
02:47:23pfavryou might do a binary search
02:47:31pfavrstarting from the middle
02:47:51pfavris the value less than 128?
02:48:10pfavrif yes: is the value less than 8?
02:48:29pfavrif no: is the value less than 32?
02:48:31diddystar5no idea really
02:48:48diddystar5are you taking in base 10?
02:48:52pfavrbase 2
02:48:57pfavrbinary numbers
02:49:21diddystar5ok i see what you saying now
02:49:29pfavrit is probably easier to write it in binary
02:49:36pfavrto get the feeling
02:49:55pfavrbut I don't know if you need more than 15 distinct values?
02:50:24diddystar5i dont think so
02:50:37diddystar5it dosent have to be totaly accurate
02:50:58diddystar5the screen only has 112 x pixles
02:51:08pfavrthen you would need to look at the next ciffer too. So if bit7 is 1 (and bit8-14 is 0) then test bit 6. If bit 6 is 1 you have that you log value is 7 and a half
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02:53:14pfavrI'm not sure if the binary search is necessary. It might be better to do it as a loop in machine language. The instructions ROTCL and ROTCR are probably the ones you need.
02:53:45diddystar5how would i use machine language in c code?
02:54:16pfavruhm, using the asm("somemachinelanguagehere") function
02:54:48pfavrit is not really a function, but the compiler leaves the machinelanguage in the assembly it produces
02:54:51diddystar5do i have to include a file to do that?
02:55:12pfavryou just write it exactly where you want it
02:55:30pfavryou can even pass arguments from you c-code to the assembly and reverse
02:55:30diddystar5thats kinda how my ti 83+ calc does that
02:55:54pfavr(but I don't remember the exact syntax)
02:56:03diddystar5thats nice
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02:56:56pfavrkernel.c: asm volatile ("stc sr, %0" : "=r" (i));
02:56:56pfavrkernel.c: asm volatile ("ldc %0, sr" : : "r" (level << 4));
02:57:20pfavrmpeg.c: asm(" nop\n nop\n nop\n");
02:57:48diddystar5ohh, i never noticed that
02:58:20pfavrI look forward to see your VU-meter finished:-)
02:58:31pfavrit is really a cool thing
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02:58:44diddystar5well, it's already in CVS, but i just dosent have a log scale
02:59:03diddystar5infact, it is in the 2.1 realease also
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02:59:09*diddystar5 feels famous
02:59:26pfavryes I noticed that:-)
03:03:43diddystar5how long have you been into rockbox?
03:04:01pfavr1-2 hours:-)
03:04:14pfavrhelping you out is my first contribution:-)
03:04:52diddystar5you just get an archos?
03:05:28pfavrno I've had it for at least one year
03:05:39diddystar5what unit do you have?
03:05:48pfavrrecorder 20, I like it very much
03:06:14diddystar5cool, me to (except it's broken right now :()
03:06:17pfavrjust flashed rockbox 2.1 yesterday - it works perfectly
03:06:23pfavrbroken: how come?
03:07:23diddystar5the wire that powers the HD is broken off, and little wire peices are broken in the hole where it is soldered
03:07:34diddystar5i cant get them out
03:07:49diddystar5neep something tiny to poke them
03:07:56pfavrcan't you just solder it on top?
03:08:18pfavrmaybe a small drill would do?
03:08:27diddystar5i could, but i would be likly to have shorts becuase the positive wire is very close to it
03:08:37pfavrwould you like to see a c-code example of the log2 function?
03:08:37diddystar5i very tiny drill bit may work
03:08:55diddystar5you can DCC it to me
03:09:13pfavrwell, I'm new to IRC
03:09:37diddystar5what client are you using?
03:09:39pfavrit is only 25 lines, is it ok to post it here?
03:09:51diddystar5umm wait
03:10:39earHertzdiddystar5: what about tweezers?
03:11:25diddystar5i doubt it, the peices are stuck IN the hole, and there is solder holding them in there
03:12:23pfavrif you're not that skilled wrt soldering, maybe somebody who is can get it out quite quickly for you
03:12:43diddystar5maybe, im really not good at soldering
03:12:59pfavrso where you living?
03:13:40Sebulba02bit far away
03:15:07pfavrmy (I'm not really sure about this) grand grand father lived in oregon
03:15:34Sebulba02great grand father*
03:16:25pfavrJunction City
03:16:39diddystar5thats about 50 miles from where i am
03:17:01pfavrin 1930
03:17:30diddystar5that was a long time ago lol
03:17:57pfavrguess their computers were slow and their mp3-players filled up a house.
03:18:26diddystar5yeah lol
03:18:54pfavrHis son wrote a book: Visti Favrholdt: "Junction City to Denmark - A Boyhood Journey"
03:20:02diddystar5sounds cool
03:22:06diddystar5i have to go
03:22:21diddystar5see you guys later
03:22:37diddystar5have fun rockboxing pfavr
03:22:54diddystar5talk to you later
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03:24:13Sebulba02heh, got /.'d
03:33:57pigpriestwoohoo :)
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05:17:13pokerjokerhey kids
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05:18:48pokerjokeranyone home?
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05:21:27diddystar5to late....
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07:29:30earHertzanyone here?
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07:51:08DarthWufeijust installed the rvf plugin test thing
07:51:10DarthWufeithis is amazingf
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07:54:37earHertzCan't wait to saee it
07:55:15DarthWufeiI was actually really worried that the LCD was as high quality in terms of refreshing as some of the latest advancements, but everything is fluid as heck
07:56:36earHertzSo it really looks like a movie?
07:57:33DarthWufeiYeah ti does
07:59:04earHertzAnd the gray scale, how many shades does it look like?
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07:59:23midknight2k3hello DarthWufei havent seen you in a bit
07:59:30midknight2k3hi ear
07:59:47DarthWufeiearHertz: I can't really tell at the moment, not in a great lighting situation
08:00:00earHertzStill, amazing
08:00:03DarthWufeiAnd the vide is a tad dark
08:00:24earHertzwill changing the contrast brighten it up?
08:00:29DarthWufeiYou can see everything moving around though, the people look clear too.
08:00:35DarthWufeiYeah I bet so
08:00:52midknight2k3what now
08:00:56midknight2k3contrast affects it
08:00:59midknight2k3put backlight to ON
08:01:08DarthWufeiI did, but my eyesight isn't so great. :p
08:01:11midknight2k3usu want darker contrast
08:01:37DarthWufeiThisis quite an accomplishment... Rockbox never ceases to amaze me
08:02:49midknight2k3yes it is! very cool
08:03:34earHertzHave you unsubscribed the mailing list yet, midknight2k3
08:06:03earHertzIt's been fun
08:09:48midknight2k3dude did you see the original trailer
08:09:51midknight2k3pretty cool
08:10:24earHertzNo, my fmr's still in the shop
08:10:35midknight2k3well, DW then
08:10:57midknight2k3seen the original one
08:11:00midknight2k3full color and sound
08:11:03midknight2k3pretty nice
08:11:49DarthWufeioh yeah
08:12:02midknight2k3good job of porting it
08:12:09midknight2k3hope we can port our own mpegs and wmvs
08:14:24earHertzYou've seen the original?
08:14:31earHertzHow do they compare?
08:14:40midknight2k3VERY NICe
08:15:48midknight2k3original's online
08:15:53midknight2k3very nice
08:16:03midknight2k3hopefully the grayscale is coded into the plugin
08:16:10midknight2k3so porting is just making an RVF and that's it
08:45:47midknight2k3wow it works
08:55:10markwso this stuff is just for the original 6000 and 20 gig players? None of the current "new" ones?
08:55:54markwshopping for an archos
08:56:05markwnot sure which to get, or what a good price on one is.
08:56:20midknight2k3usu about $200 actually
08:56:38markwnew? or used?
08:56:47midknight2k3depends on retailer
08:56:59markwthat one?
08:57:09markwor the ones that look like the 6gig one?
08:57:24midknight2k3thats not it
08:57:34midknight2k3hard to find in stores
08:58:12midknight2k3tough one
08:59:27markwI'll look for the 6000 style one.
08:59:28midknight2k3prolly online is the only way
08:59:33midknight2k3that one sucks
08:59:40midknight2k3you want a recorder 20
08:59:48midknight2k3not studio, nor player
08:59:52midknight2k3nor multimedia
09:00:26markwlike that?
09:00:40midknight2k3thats an fmr
09:00:42midknight2k3works the same
09:00:44markwnope, drop the fm.
09:00:46midknight2k3with radio
09:00:52midknight2k3it works too
09:00:55midknight2k3just with radio
09:01:01midknight2k3and liion non replaceable battery
09:01:16midknight2k3LiIon is nice for it in my eyes
09:01:19midknight2k3long lasting
09:01:26DarthWufei <- I got mine from here...
09:01:27midknight2k3most want Rec with replaceable batteries
09:01:43midknight2k3$199.90 AM I GOOD OR WHAT
09:02:02midknight2k3but fmr is nice too
09:02:12midknight2k3lots lighter
09:02:13DarthWufeiI'm just not great about ebay stuff
09:02:21midknight2k3slightly smalelr
09:02:34midknight2k3fm radio
09:02:40midknight2k3and long battery life
09:10:17earHertzmidknight2k3: how much memory is available to .rocks?
09:10:40midknight2k332KB compiled
09:11:48earHertzand you allocate statics to use it?
09:12:06midknight2k3dont know anything much about that
09:12:13midknight2k3"use the code, Luke"
09:12:31earHertzyes, but in this case code + data <= 32KB
09:13:04midknight2k3compiled, yes...
09:13:09midknight2k3why does it matter?
09:13:32midknight2k3i never got a single comment on any of my patches
09:13:39midknight2k3any of my numerous ones
09:14:19earHertzpatches or .rocks?
09:15:20earHertzyou announce them on the list?
09:16:12midknight2k3no should i've?
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09:17:36earHertzOtherwise how does anyone know to try them out?
09:18:05midknight2k3they go to patches
09:18:09midknight2k3they see patches
09:18:13midknight2k3they try patches
09:18:17earHertzAnd not everybody browses patches
09:18:25earHertzand rocks are not patches
09:18:27midknight2k3ok ill later
09:18:34midknight2k3we need a ROCKS section then
09:18:40earHertzyes, we do.
09:19:05earHertzof course, you could host your own rocks at your site
09:19:24midknight2k3why would i?
09:19:54earHertzso peope could download them
09:20:11midknight2k3and sourceforge is worse, because why again?
09:20:40earHertzcan you host compiled versions at soyurce forge?
09:21:16midknight2k3i did
09:21:19midknight2k3for fmr and rec
09:22:39earHertzoh, ok.
09:23:00midknight2k3you can put up multiple files
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10:09:44adi|homejust so i know im not insane.. there's no sound with the doom demo right?
10:10:27adi|homenow _that_ would be cool..
10:10:36adi|homei can't believe the got this working.. thats so damn amazing..
10:10:41adi|homehtf did he manage that
10:10:46midknight2k3no idea
10:10:53midknight2k3super rendering! awayy!
10:11:00midknight2k3"high performance blit function"
10:11:03adi|homewhat was this blit they were talking about?
10:11:03midknight2k3something like that
10:11:08midknight2k3thats it
10:11:13midknight2k3flashing pixels so fast it's gray
10:22:16midknight2k3very nice demo
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11:08:48earHertz_Saddam's been captured
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17:57:23dodois there anyone here ?
17:57:24dodoi'm french
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18:05:18diddystar5WE have captured Saddam Hussein!
18:05:59[OFF]BtTwow great
18:06:07diddystar5YAY FOR USA!
18:06:13diddystar5see the news
18:06:45*Sebulba02 yawns.. old news :)
18:07:02diddystar5yeah, but i just turned the news one like 2 mins ago
18:07:28Sebulba02ah, then you might get to see our president speak
18:07:36diddystar5in 15 mins
18:07:47diddystar5ohh, 8 mins
18:07:54Sebulba02thought they said noon
18:08:01diddystar5thats in eastern
18:08:06diddystar5im in pacific
18:08:09Sebulba02I am EST
18:08:13diddystar5but yeah 7 mins
18:08:25Sebulba02I have 12:08pm here.
18:08:27diddystar5what timeis it there?
18:08:38[OFF]BtT6.10 pm
18:08:40diddystar5off then rep 7 mins!
18:09:12diddystar5whre do you live [OFF]BtT?
18:09:35Sebulba02Sun Dec 14 12:09:27 EST 2003
18:10:15*diddystar5 syncs time with :)
18:11:01Sebulba02As do I, or I did.
18:11:50Sebulba02what time is it anyways?
18:12:10diddystar59:11 am here in oregon
18:13:03Sebulba02my clock is right according to
18:13:30diddystar5Sebulba02: are you using windows xp?
18:13:38Sebulba02god no
18:13:53diddystar5ok then what are you using?
18:14:21Sebulba02My time server is on a debian server, debian on my laptop here and win2k to dial out with.
18:15:14diddystar5the pres is on!
18:15:22Sebulba02whoop dee doo
18:15:42diddystar5what you dont like Bush?
18:16:05Sebulba02we've had, uh, better presidents.
18:16:14*diddystar5 rips a pearl jam cd
18:16:27diddystar5i tyink bush i s a good pres
18:17:13Sebulba02everyones allowed their own opinion
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18:32:59diddystar5i want to make a real vu meter with needles
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18:34:03Sebulba02Sounds Fun [tm]
18:35:32*Sebulba02 plays some Halo.
18:38:19diddystar5need to figure out how the things work, and head out to radioshack to get parts
18:39:18*diddystar5 struggles to find ANY info on google
18:57:51*diddystar5 gives up
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21:12:23pfavrhi, anybody experienced the battery run empty during longer usb transfers even though the charger is connected?
21:13:02Sebulba02I haven't & I've transferred a lot.
21:14:08pfavrI'm only using usb1.1. When I started copying, the archos was fully recharged. After approx 30 minutes it started charging (level fell below the 85% i guess).
21:14:34pfavrWhen it died the battery indicator said it was fully charged (while showing the USB screen)
21:14:57pfavrbut after removing the charger (to let it turn off), the battery level was -1%
21:15:03pfavr(on the charger screen)
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21:15:44pfavrit is even -1% now and not charging.
21:15:57pfavr(I'm running rockbox 2.1 from flash)
21:16:07pfavr(it's a recorder 20)
21:17:48pfavrwell now it started charging
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21:34:13midknight2k3hi bluechip
21:34:16midknight2k3hi ear
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21:55:53midknight2k3mah best bud
21:56:27midknight2k3yo yo yo
21:56:30midknight2k3i want i want
21:56:31midknight2k3RVF FORMAT
21:56:37midknight2k3so i can convert stuff and watch it
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22:12:16midknight2k3hey hey
22:12:24midknight2k3why didnt you says something I didnt see you come in
22:12:55midknight2k3grayscale us neat, huh
22:13:05midknight2k3is it gonna be merged? can we get an RVF converter?
22:13:11midknight2k3will it be grayscale rockbox soon?
22:14:46midknight2k3is RVF a new format, rockbox video format or something?
22:14:54midknight2k3i wish we could make our own RVFs
22:15:05LinusNthe turbocharged LCD blits are in CVS already
22:15:24midknight2k3you know whatd be nice?
22:15:31midknight2k3just modify all the lcd functions
22:15:36LinusNthe video rock is not yet in CVS
22:15:52midknight2k3so you can do the format: lcd_drawline(intensity, x, y, x, y)
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22:16:09midknight2k3just make intensity (1-10 or whatever) a simple way to use grayscale
22:16:16midknight2k3or is it some complicated format thing you must do
22:16:30LinusNthere are a bunch of problems that makes it virtually impossible to use grayscale in rockbox
22:16:37midknight2k3like what
22:17:00LinusN1) The grayscale lcd updates are extremely cpu intensive
22:17:13midknight2k3i thought theyd be
22:17:18midknight2k3is it bad for the lcd?
22:17:42LinusN2) The LCD has to be set in a mode that changes the frame buffer format in a quite impractical way
22:17:50midknight2k3after I watched the doom3 demo about 10 times in a row it became a bit flickery, but giving it a small amount of rest stopped it :D
22:18:04LinusN3) The display will be very blurry with simulated grayscales
22:18:48midknight2k3Linus: we should have vidviewer.rock for a media player (plays rockbox video format) with full functions such as rewind and fast forward, and pause
22:19:00midknight2k3is it possible to convert MPEG to this new format?
22:19:16LinusNff/rew/pause etc that will definitely come
22:19:24midknight2k3but yes can we convert?>
22:19:33midknight2k3is this planned to be a video player?
22:19:39midknight2k3or just a demo of some video
22:19:39LinusNyes, any video format can be converted, as long as someone writes a converter
22:19:47LinusNno plans at all for anything
22:19:50midknight2k3is RVF "rockbox video format"?
22:20:06midknight2k3but there must be a converter
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22:20:18midknight2k3how did jörg convert it if there isnt?
22:20:29midknight2k3sorry i have so many questions :D
22:20:41LinusNSnifffurt: hi
22:21:44SnifffurtIs it also possible to flash the rom of the FM Recorder or is this a recorder only change?
22:21:55midknight2k3fmr is possible es
22:21:57LinusNfm is flashable
22:21:58midknight2k3i've done it
22:22:11Snifffurtcool :-)
22:22:59midknight2k3looks cool Linus
22:23:03midknight2k3i have some ideas
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22:23:05Snifffurtwell, then I'm happy to go on reading the manual. I've just had some unshoreness about that... Thanks allot
22:23:10midknight2k3for the viewer
22:23:35midknight2k3is the source anywhere yet?
22:23:53LinusNnot that i know of
22:24:11midknight2k3i have some goooood ideas
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22:25:05bluechipevenin' all - rvf rocks doesn't it :)
22:25:27midknight2k3wish we could encode it tho
22:25:31midknight2k3there you are
22:25:37midknight2k3is the encoder done?
22:25:38midknight2k3great work
22:25:39midknight2k3love it
22:25:40[IDC]DragonHi there!
22:25:42midknight2k3watching again right now
22:25:47uski[IDC]Dragon: hi
22:25:51bluechipHey Bjo"rn
22:26:11midknight2k3bluechip: try this - alt+0246
22:26:37[IDC]DragonLike in Jörg
22:26:50bluechipyay! thanks - need to change my keyboard driver - i have all the french things under my alt-gr key :(
22:27:10[IDC]DragonHi LinusN, are you there?
22:27:11midknight2k3idc: love the greyscale, what an event
22:27:13LinusNbluechip, björn isn't here
22:27:17bluechipAnd yes, Jörg was what I menat to type too 0 lol
22:27:29midknight2k3is an encoder nearing release?
22:27:31bluechipsorry, brain glitch
22:27:35midknight2k3i cant wait to convert some stuff to rockbox
22:27:37[IDC]DragonLinusN: I see I've spoiled the kids
22:27:42midknight2k3ye you have :D
22:27:47midknight2k3it's amazing
22:27:58midknight2k3why did you have to do that? :)
22:28:07LinusNnow we have to dig up that album cover request....thanks a lot Jörg :-(
22:28:18midknight2k3tracks request
22:28:22bluechipso I will try again ... might fine work Jörg
22:28:26midknight2k3ueaj jorg i was up all night watching Doom3
22:28:26uskihi *
22:28:33midknight2k3i got no sleep
22:28:33[IDC]DragonTo give Linus a hard time shaking off all these feture requests.
22:28:36midknight2k3how dare you?
22:29:27[IDC]DragonI'm running out of webspace
22:29:47midknight2k3is the encoder done? or is the issue the webspace?
22:29:54midknight2k3put it on rockbox webspace
22:30:02[IDC]DragonI had to delete all non-essential stuff to make room for the video
22:30:26midknight2k3i watched it like 15 times now
22:30:38[IDC]Dragonmore than I did
22:30:54LinusN[IDC]Dragon: we can host your stuff
22:31:07midknight2k3host the encoder for us spoilt kids
22:31:13midknight2k3if it's finished*
22:31:15[IDC]Dragonwe got slashdotted, is that a good idea?
22:31:47midknight2k3" COOL! this brings a whole new level of mobility for porn
22:31:53[IDC]DragonLinusN: you're welcome to mirror the clip, give me room for other stuff
22:31:57midknight2k3i think people are interested
22:32:25bluechipfmv for your games - lol
22:32:45[IDC]DragonLinusN: how about starting an mp3 in sync from the plugin?
22:32:55bluechipoh yes, oohhh yesss yess yess
22:32:59midknight2k3idc: how about porting WMVs and MPEGs to rvf
22:33:32[IDC]Dragonmidknight2k3: I have a little "toolchain" for 112*64 AVIs
22:33:40midknight2k3can you put it up?
22:33:44midknight2k3i want to port some stuff
22:33:50midknight2k3even if i must do mpeg->avi->rb
22:33:52bluechipIDC: what does your test util convert FROM, and when will the rvf format be available (no rush, just interest)
22:33:54[IDC]Dragonnot polished yet
22:34:02midknight2k3if it works its good :D
22:34:14midknight2k3converts from avi
22:34:26[IDC]DragonI'm verybusy next week, please don't expect much from me
22:34:49bluechipmk: which avi codecs does it support?
22:34:56midknight2k3notr sure
22:35:05LinusN[IDC]Dragon: we could add some functionality to the mpeg handling, like being able to play already-bitswapped files
22:35:09midknight2k3idc: no problemo, just interested
22:35:12[IDC]Dragonany will do, but it must be 112*64
22:35:13LinusNand to start synchronously
22:35:22bluechiphmmm, pretty much anything can have .avi on the end
22:35:29midknight2k3idc: can you put it up?
22:35:33midknight2k3i wish to try it
22:35:35[IDC]DragonLinusN: that sounds awkward
22:36:14[IDC]DragonLinusN: how about selecting it, then pause? Won't that bitswap meanwhile?
22:36:15bluechiphas anyone ever tried enabling the 729 or AAC bits on the 3587?
22:36:40LinusN[IDC]Dragon: yes it will, but only the data in the buffer
22:36:58LinusNit would have to bitswap the next chunk from disk
22:37:03[IDC]DragonLinusN: should be OK for shorter clips
22:37:33LinusNeven loading mp3 data from disk will give stuttering video, i guess
22:37:46[IDC]Dragonyes, I thinkso.
22:37:51midknight2k3flickers when buffering mp3
22:38:15[IDC]DragonI was more thinking about loading and swapping upfront, then play from memory
22:38:21Hesholy cow.
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22:38:45[IDC]Dragonreward for 8MB mod
22:38:58midknight2k3thats not fair
22:39:01midknight2k3now i want to do it
22:39:04LinusNso the led problem is still there?
22:39:04midknight2k3and i shouldnt
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22:39:11[IDC]DragonLinusN: yes.
22:39:16Masskillerso, anyone have some cool plugins or something i can have :D
22:39:29[IDC]DragonI just masked it by shutting it off afterwards.
22:39:44midknight2k3masskiller: try my clock!
22:39:44LinusN[IDC]Dragon: boooo :-)
22:39:50midknight2k3LinusN: did you see my clock
22:39:51midknight2k3it's done
22:39:53Masskilleri want a clock
22:39:55Masskillergive give giveeeeeeee
22:39:55midknight2k3i did it
22:39:57midknight2k3its all mine
22:39:58LinusNhaven't tried it yet
22:40:04[IDC]DragonI know it's a lame workaround
22:40:14LinusN[IDC]Dragon: i'll have a look
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22:45:27telliottIs "upside down display" in the latest daily build? I can't figure out how to enable it. I can't find anything in the display setup menu.
22:45:49midknight2k3just a feature
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22:45:51midknight2k3not usable yet
22:45:54[IDC]Dragontelliott: It's just prepared in the driver
22:46:25[IDC]DragonEasy to do, but not done yet.
22:46:58[IDC]DragonWe need an upsid down option in the keyboard driver as well.
22:47:10midknight2k3and the peak meter
22:47:39midknight2k3anyoen around with a Recorder?
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22:47:54telliottI'm still hoping for a safe way to turn off the unit *now* without worrying about disc access.
22:47:56bluechipuh huh
22:48:09midknight2k3bluechip: you have a recorder?
22:48:17midknight2k3can you try my precompiled .rock for the clock
22:48:29midknight2k3i think it's not working correctly
22:48:37bluechipwhat's it doing wrong?
22:48:43Masskillerfor me
22:48:44Masskillerits like
22:48:51midknight2k3stkov scroll
22:48:52MasskillerStkov scroll
22:48:58midknight2k3probably the rect out of boundaries
22:49:02midknight2k3although it works for me
22:49:49midknight2k3I have fmr
22:49:55midknight2k3so mustve done something wrong with the rec
22:50:02ImmyZhoo, the pitch feature is some fun
22:50:32bluechippitch is cool but +/- 2% doesn't work properly imho
22:51:01midknight2k3it needs work
22:51:08midknight2k3maybe hold on to show then release to keep there
22:51:26bluechipprolly just a typo in the source
22:51:27midknight2k3then up/down is -1 or +1 and right or left is up 5/down five
22:51:46midknight2k3bluechip: does the .rock work?
22:52:13bluechipi'm in the middle of a coupla things atm, you did not say what is wrong?
22:52:36midknight2k3stkov scroll 's
22:52:42ImmyZso if any devs are around, I'm still getting the same error I got last winter when I tried rockbox
22:52:57LinusNImmyZ: and that is?
22:52:59ImmyZit works, plays mp3's
22:53:06bluechip"stkov scroll's" means nothing to me :(
22:53:11ImmyZbut there's Save Failed No Partition?"
22:53:20midknight2k3bluechip: scroll overflow
22:53:21LinusNImmyZ: ah, yes
22:53:31ImmyZdidn't see anything on the lists
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22:53:42bluechipi'll take a look later
22:53:50midknight2k3anyone else with a recorder?
22:53:54LinusNmidknight2k3, bluechip: it means that the scroller thread's stack was overwritten
22:54:09midknight2k3linus: can you try it?
22:54:10bluechipcheers Linus
22:54:13ImmyZyeah and this is on my crusty JBR 6
22:54:27LinusNImmyZ: it means that your hard disk doesn't have a partition table
22:54:37bluechipguess that'll be a stray pointer then?
22:55:23LinusNbluechip: could be, but it's more often an lcd frame buffer overflow
22:55:44midknight2k3can anyone test it?
22:55:53ImmyZthat's impressive, so my Mac's been mounting it w/o a partition table eh
22:56:04LinusNmidknight2k3: why two versions for rec and fmr?
22:56:13midknight2k3no idea? :)
22:56:29LinusNImmyZ: that is not strange, unfortunately
22:56:31bluechiprighty - trying to make space on my C drive right now so I can try the old dev kit again I recall it was just the simulator which was stuffed ...which is a shame given the mods I want to make, but anything is gonna be better that what I've got now - lol
22:59:14LinusNmidknight2k3: you use a lot of stack in your plugin
22:59:23midknight2k3it works for me
22:59:29midknight2k3do recs have smaller "stacks"?
22:59:38midknight2k3linus: any ideas around that?
22:59:43midknight2k3take out the whole ui? :D
23:00:13LinusNbesides, you must not declare variables in the middle of the code, not all compilers can handle that
23:00:26midknight2k3let me have a looksy
23:00:35LinusNmove your precalculated coordinates to a global scope
23:01:08midknight2k3all the ints and stuff?
23:01:15midknight2k3and bools and chars?
23:04:11LinusNjust move yminute, yhour, xminute and xhour
23:04:38ImmyZLinusN: alright I'll reformat in Linux and make sure it's kosher, I think it was presently formatted w/ OS X
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23:05:16LinusNImmyZ: not reformat, repartition
23:07:08ImmyZfdisk and mkfs.msdos perhaps?
23:07:38LinusNmkdosfs -F 32 iirc
23:07:40ImmyZthat block size stuff doesn't matter any more?
23:08:00LinusNbig clusters increase performance
23:08:11Masskillerbut you lose space on uh
23:08:13Masskillersmall files
23:08:25Masskillercause smaller files use up more space :\
23:08:26LinusNlike all those 16Kb MP# files :-)
23:08:33Masskilleryeah lol
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23:11:09ImmyZk thanks
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23:26:21midknight2k3IDC: is the avi converter up?
23:26:40LinusNmidknight2k3: give him a break
23:27:01midknight2k3it's exciting
23:27:08midknight2k3(at least I think it is)
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23:29:55[IDC]DragonLinusN: are you looking for the LED?
23:33:44LinusNyou don't attempt to save the port value at all in the current version
23:34:11[IDC]Dragonright, but I only mess with the lowe 4 bits
23:34:34[IDC]Dragon(if the code is correct, that is)
23:35:55LinusNmidknight2k3: don't you get any warnings when you compile clock.c?
23:36:08midknight2k32 warnings
23:36:17midknight2k3it was from your last_min_pos things
23:36:24midknight2k3didnt know what to do with them
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23:36:57LinusNthose warnings are what causes the crash
23:37:17midknight2k3works for me?
23:37:28LinusNpure luck
23:38:06midknight2k3if it were fixed is it considerable to merge? or is there no point?
23:39:10LinusNi think you should recalculate the tables, since they produce an oval clock
23:39:30Masskilleryeah i gotta wear this on my wrist and say its my watch
23:39:42Masskiller*defragments mp3 player*
23:39:50Masskilleri should stop storing my warez on here D:
23:40:04Masskilleri dont have enough HD space
23:40:08Masskillerand i need a new computer :|
23:40:10midknight2k3Linus: you want a round one? that was bagders code
23:40:36midknight2k3(the oval)
23:40:55LinusNthe last_pos variables were uninitialized, so they could read outside the tables, giving silly coordinates when clearing the hands, causing an lcd frame buffer overflow
23:41:22LinusNi know he wrote it
23:41:38midknight2k3so if i change the values of the tables
23:41:44midknight2k3the circle will be drawn different too?
23:41:50midknight2k3it draws based off the tables?
23:42:04LinusNi also think the hour hand should be thicker than the minute hand
23:42:11LinusNand i want seconds
23:42:19midknight2k3ok ill try to keep that all in mind
23:42:30midknight2k3itll be tough but i think i can do it
23:42:53midknight2k3linus: there is a bug on both my clock and the bounce clock
23:43:06midknight2k3after about 4pm the hour hand gets as long as the minute hand
23:43:22LinusNi'll post my changes to the patch tracker
23:43:35midknight2k3fixed the last_hour_pos?
23:43:39midknight2k3and min
23:50:55LinusNi fixed the crash, moved the tables to a global scope, moved all local variable declarations to the top of the function, and corrected the limits in the snprintf() calls
23:51:25midknight2k3did you post it?
23:51:49LinusNdoing it now
23:52:09LinusNslow modem link right now
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23:55:05midknight2k3hi elinenbe
23:56:41midknight2k3you deleted my crap!
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23:56:53elinenbemidknight2k3: hello, what did I delete?
23:57:00midknight2k3that was LinusN
23:57:13midknight2k3my STUFF! its gone!
23:57:25elinenbemidknight2k3: what is gone?
23:57:31midknight2k3my clock ... stuff
23:57:45midknight2k3oh wait he put up another one
23:57:52midknight2k3i was about to yell
23:58:08elinenbemidknight2k3: just calm down, whatever was done, I am sure there was a reson for it...
23:58:17midknight2k3i am calm
23:58:24midknight2k3he restored the clock thingy

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