| 00:00:04 | elinenbe | LinusN: it is a nice piece of programming. |
| 00:00:09 | scott666 | whats the small one of? i havnt gotten that yet |
| 00:00:14 | LinusN | i tried a beta version before release |
| 00:00:14 | midknight2k3 | then youd see why i want the converter (no rush of course) |
| 00:00:24 | midknight2k3 | scott: it has 2 other small things |
| 00:00:29 | midknight2k3 | a tree clip and a "lena |
| 00:00:30 | midknight2k3 | picture |
| 00:00:39 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: congrats on the great work. I guessed that was what you were working on. It looks GREAT! |
| 00:01:02 | [IDC]Dragon | elinenbe: thanks! |
| 00:01:05 | midknight2k3 | yes it does !! |
| 00:01:45 | scott666 | does the doom video eat as much battery as the red led would indicate? |
| 00:01:54 | midknight2k3 | not quite\ |
| 00:01:56 | midknight2k3 | but close |
| 00:02:01 | midknight2k3 | red light is always on |
| 00:02:07 | midknight2k3 | even minus HD activity |
| 00:02:12 | scott666 | ahh |
| 00:02:15 | [IDC]Dragon | so is the disk, yes |
| 00:02:45 | midknight2k3 | on, but not accessed, right? |
| 00:03:01 | [IDC]Dragon | it is accessed 70 times a second |
| 00:03:04 | scott666 | [ |
| 00:03:06 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 00:03:10 | midknight2k3 | never mind :) |
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| 00:04:44 | [IDC]Dragon | the video bitrate is 502 kBit/sec |
| 00:05:10 | midknight2k3 | nice |
| 00:05:15 | [IDC]Dragon | using the big mp3 buffer, it would be possible to power it down intermittantly |
| 00:05:42 | midknight2k3 | yea every few seconds for a few seconds |
| 00:05:45 | [IDC]Dragon | but is would have to spinup like 3 times more often than with mp3 |
| 00:05:46 | midknight2k3 | probably best to leave it on |
| 00:06:32 | scott666 | would it even get a chance to spin down? itd have to be accessed every 3-4 seconds |
| 00:06:36 | diddystar5 | [IDC]Dragon: could you please realease the source for your vodeo stuff |
| 00:07:01 | [IDC]Dragon | I will, shure |
| 00:07:11 | midknight2k3 | LinusN: thanks for the update! |
| 00:07:19 | midknight2k3 | I'll try to do some of the extra stuff |
| 00:07:32 | [IDC]Dragon | first I'd like to discuss with Zagor about the plugin API extensions |
| 00:08:26 | [IDC]Dragon | the high-speed LCD part is already in cvs |
| 00:09:37 | diddystar5 | i mean would you go ahead and realease it on your server :) |
| 00:10:40 | [IDC]Dragon | what would you do with it? I have to merge my Rockbox changes first. |
| 00:12:03 | diddystar5 | uhh well, could you put a patch for those on your webserver? |
| 00:13:22 | [IDC]Dragon | uncomfortable, the reast has changed with this neo stuff, my sources are before |
| 00:13:38 | [IDC]Dragon | reast=rest |
| 00:13:51 | [IDC]Dragon | and I don't like patches |
| 00:14:15 | [IDC]Dragon | If you let me work, I post the converter tonight |
| 00:14:45 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
| 00:14:46 | diddystar5 | ok :) |
| 00:14:47 | midknight2k3 | idc rocks |
| 00:14:49 | diddystar5 | cool |
| 00:14:55 | midknight2k3 | idc is the best |
| 00:15:04 | midknight2k3 | idc is amazing |
| 00:15:09 | [IDC]Dragon | no, Linus is ;) |
| 00:15:25 | [IDC]Dragon | and stop that buttkissing |
| 00:15:32 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 00:15:36 | midknight2k3 | you've spoiled me |
| 00:15:48 | midknight2k3 | i watched doom3 demo about 10 times in a row |
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| 00:17:19 | diddystar5 | i think it is very possible to put doom on archos, my ti 83+ has doom on it :) |
| 00:17:31 | midknight2k3 | ok Linus, we want a circular clock, second hand, anything else? |
| 00:18:22 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 00:18:51 | LinusN | midknight2k3: not that i can think of, no (except for shorter hour hand) |
| 00:19:03 | midknight2k3 | shorter? |
| 00:19:09 | midknight2k3 | OH did you try it |
| 00:19:12 | diddystar5 | and it ought to look very good with idc's new lcd stuff! |
| 00:19:21 | midknight2k3 | its the same length as min hand right |
| 00:19:28 | midknight2k3 | thats the bug! |
| 00:19:29 | LinusN | than the minute and second hand |
| 00:19:37 | midknight2k3 | after like 6PM it becomes as long as the minute hand |
| 00:19:42 | midknight2k3 | even at the bouncer code |
| 00:19:55 | LinusN | and the hour hand should be thicker than the minute hand |
| 00:22:19 | midknight2k3 | butbutbut |
| 00:22:21 | midknight2k3 | its a bug |
| 00:22:22 | midknight2k3 | any ideas |
| 00:22:25 | midknight2k3 | it elongates |
| 00:23:49 | diddystar5 | it erects |
| 00:23:51 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 00:24:02 | midknight2k3 | uh |
| 00:24:04 | midknight2k3 | no. |
| 00:24:07 | midknight2k3 | actually |
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| 00:24:19 | yeft | bonjour! |
| 00:24:39 | diddystar5 | lol "nospinzone" |
| 00:24:41 | midknight2k3 | BOJURR |
| 00:24:51 | yeft | lol? |
| 00:24:56 | yeft | why |
| 00:25:05 | diddystar5 | do you watch fox news? |
| 00:25:10 | yeft | always :) |
| 00:25:20 | yeft | better then the Communist News Network |
| 00:25:30 | diddystar5 | yeah, you know, bill O, the no spin zone |
| 00:25:39 | yeft | thats why i put it there |
| 00:25:45 | yeft | if i ever get banned from a room... |
| 00:25:45 | diddystar5 | cool |
| 00:25:51 | yeft | i change my nick to nospinzone |
| 00:25:52 | yeft | :P |
| 00:26:12 | diddystar5 | :) |
| 00:27:07 | midknight2k3 | ASDF |
| 00:27:07 | midknight2k3 | DFAD |
| 00:27:08 | midknight2k3 | SDD |
| 00:27:12 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
| 00:28:16 | diddystar5 | go to #liberals see if you get banned :) |
| 00:28:24 | | Nick yeft is now known as nospinzone (nospinzone@pcp04986012pcs.benslm01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 00:28:29 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 00:28:32 | nospinzone | :)\ |
| 00:28:46 | nospinzone | thats not a channel :( |
| 00:28:57 | nospinzone | im just glad |
| 00:29:05 | diddystar5 | ohh well |
| 00:29:09 | nospinzone | liberals no longer have the "well, where is saddam??" argument |
| 00:29:13 | nospinzone | MUAAHHAHA |
| 00:29:18 | diddystar5 | HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA |
| 00:30:29 | nospinzone | silly liberals |
| 00:30:36 | | Nick nospinzone is now known as yeft (nospinzone@pcp04986012pcs.benslm01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 00:30:54 | midknight2k3 | sddddd |
| 00:30:59 | yeft | sfh |
| 00:31:46 | diddystar5 | afdsafda |
| 00:31:55 | diddystar5 | jkljkljl;;jkljk; |
| 00:34:07 | xam | well, but where is waldo? |
| 00:34:28 | midknight2k3 | hes SDDing |
| 00:34:42 | xam | and ossama? |
| 00:36:01 | midknight2k3 | DFFing |
| 00:36:10 | yeft | who cares about ossama |
| 00:36:15 | yeft | we got saddam! |
| 00:36:37 | yeft | which if you make all the ds ss and the o s and o |
| 00:36:44 | yeft | and rearange the letter |
| 00:36:45 | yeft | s |
| 00:36:48 | yeft | you have OSSAMA |
| 00:36:52 | yeft | errie isnt it |
| 00:37:25 | xam | nope |
| 00:37:54 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 00:37:57 | midknight2k3 | yeah thats like saying |
| 00:38:28 | midknight2k3 | if you take "computer" and change the letters to "microwave" you get "microwave"! |
| 00:38:30 | midknight2k3 | eerie huh |
| 00:38:38 | yeft | hahah mk i thought this kid was you |
| 00:38:40 | scott666 | whoa! |
| 00:38:43 | yeft | but it was mike housen |
| 00:38:50 | yeft | and i couldnt remember your last name... |
| 00:39:03 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 00:39:06 | yeft | muahah |
| 00:39:06 | midknight2k3 | what now |
| 00:39:12 | midknight2k3 | im at the end of the credits list |
| 00:39:28 | yeft | cause if you change the u to an l and the s to a d... |
| 00:39:39 | diddystar5 | im next to the end of the credits list (in front of mid!) |
| 00:39:42 | midknight2k3 | and computer to microwave |
| 00:39:44 | midknight2k3 | ITS EERIE |
| 00:39:50 | yeft | and i cant program |
| 00:39:51 | midknight2k3 | thats not fair diddy |
| 00:40:00 | yeft | ...i was reading about shakespear programming |
| 00:40:04 | yeft | pretty sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet |
| 00:40:12 | diddystar5 | it is cool |
| 00:40:14 | midknight2k3 | im not mikeholden |
| 00:40:15 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 00:40:17 | yeft | i gotta run now...be back later |
| 00:40:19 | midknight2k3 | bye |
| 00:40:20 | yeft | wait who is |
| 00:40:23 | midknight2k3 | not I |
| 00:40:25 | diddystar5 | but you should learn something else first |
| 00:40:25 | midknight2k3 | im " |
| 00:40:28 | midknight2k3 | im zakk |
| 00:40:28 | diddystar5 | bye |
| 00:40:29 | midknight2k3 | dfad |
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| 00:41:35 | midknight2k3 | d |
| 00:58:46 | diddystar5 | bye everyone |
| 00:58:53 | diddystar5 | c you tomorrow |
| 00:58:58 | midknight2k3 | bye |
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| 01:31:48 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, I've uploaded sources and converter tool, see my latest posting. |
| 01:32:15 | [IDC]Dragon | Hope it works, I've only briefly tested it. |
| 01:32:20 | [IDC]Dragon | Goodnight! |
| 01:32:24 | midknight2k3 | NIGHT |
| 01:32:25 | midknight2k3 | thanks idc |
| 01:32:28 | midknight2k3 | you rock :) |
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| 01:41:19 | track | hi Linis |
| 01:41:20 | track | Linus |
| 01:41:25 | midknight2k3 | tracky |
| 01:41:28 | midknight2k3 | you can watch your own movies |
| 01:41:40 | bluechip | did i miss the release of the encoder? |
| 01:41:45 | track | what? |
| 01:41:59 | midknight2k3 | yes bluechip |
| 01:42:04 | midknight2k3 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/0530.shtml |
| 01:42:29 | bluechip | lol ....you bugger off to re-fdisk your machine ..and the world changes while you're away :) |
| 01:42:32 | bluechip | cheers mk |
| 01:42:46 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:42:52 | bluechip | hey mk, can you build a sim with your devkit? |
| 01:42:59 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 01:43:05 | midknight2k3 | i got a full cygwin |
| 01:43:09 | midknight2k3 | thats what you need |
| 01:43:11 | bluechip | ahha |
| 01:43:46 | bluechip | shame about the full install ...if only rolands dev kit worked with 98 :( |
| 01:43:53 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 01:43:58 | bluechip | mk, what instructions did you follow? |
| 01:44:03 | midknight2k3 | there are just a few packs you need |
| 01:44:07 | midknight2k3 | but i dont remember |
| 01:44:10 | midknight2k3 | i just got the full pack |
| 01:44:14 | bluechip | darn it! |
| 01:44:15 | midknight2k3 | you need perl for one |
| 01:44:20 | midknight2k3 | im sure of that |
| 01:44:23 | midknight2k3 | theres about 4 others |
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| 01:52:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 01:55:47 | midknight2k3 | IT WORKS! |
| 01:55:48 | midknight2k3 | ITS COO |
| 01:56:05 | bluechip | coo huh? |
| 01:56:09 | bluechip | lol |
| 01:57:32 | midknight2k3 | awesome |
| 01:57:34 | midknight2k3 | ill upload it |
| 01:57:37 | midknight2k3 | its a rockbox intro video |
| 01:57:44 | bluechip | do it |
| 01:57:45 | midknight2k3 | back in 10 |
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| 02:06:26 | diddystar5 | hey linus |
| 02:06:32 | LinusN | yo |
| 02:06:55 | diddystar5 | LinusN: could you help with the vu meter? i have code that calculates log(base 2) now! |
| 02:07:14 | LinusN | then why do you need my help? :-) |
| 02:07:29 | diddystar5 | because i dont know what to do with it |
| 02:08:15 | LinusN | but i thought we solved that the last time? |
| 02:08:30 | diddystar5 | ohh |
| 02:08:32 | diddystar5 | yeah |
| 02:08:35 | diddystar5 | ill try |
| 02:08:41 | diddystar5 | for got about that |
| 02:11:13 | track | OMG IT WORKS! |
| 02:11:16 | track | the video mode! |
| 02:11:50 | track | hey LinusN the Archos can play video after all! |
| 02:12:24 | * | bluechip mutters something that rhymes with wav |
| 02:15:49 | | Quit track ("Leaving") |
| 02:16:49 | midknight2k3 | BACK |
| 02:16:49 | midknight2k3 | IT WORKS |
| 02:17:06 | midknight2k3 | LINUSN! |
| 02:17:07 | midknight2k3 | IT WORKS! |
| 02:17:20 | midknight2k3 | i have a rather neat demo you might want to include in the pack if you are to release it |
| 02:22:24 | LinusN | what works? |
| 02:22:36 | diddystar5 | his video |
| 02:22:56 | midknight2k3 | it works well |
| 02:22:59 | midknight2k3 | i think youd like it |
| 02:23:46 | xam | now we just need AA-support for fonts ;) |
| 02:24:06 | bluechip | oohh, subtitle? |
| 02:24:12 | bluechip | lol |
| 02:24:23 | xam | bluechip karaoke? |
| 02:24:51 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 02:25:08 | xam | and implement a background picture/video and transparency |
| 02:25:32 | midknight2k3 | lol yeah |
| 02:25:34 | midknight2k3 | this will ROCK |
| 02:25:34 | xam | maybe a even little qt-embedded port ;) |
| 02:25:56 | midknight2k3 | testing another |
| 02:25:59 | xam | well, it would require c++ ... and that's evil |
| 02:26:09 | bluechip | what would require ++? |
| 02:26:16 | xam | qt? |
| 02:26:19 | midknight2k3 | er a very pixelated mess |
| 02:26:29 | bluechip | only if you are to use existing code |
| 02:26:42 | bluechip | ...and even that could be modified |
| 02:26:43 | xam | bluechip: yeah |
| 02:27:00 | xam | bluechip: I don't think you have programmed in QT before ... |
| 02:27:10 | xam | s/in/with/ |
| 02:28:09 | bluechip | "in" QT?? |
| 02:28:16 | midknight2k3 | <xam> s/in/with/ |
| 02:28:33 | bluechip | LOL - i will learn regex one day |
| 02:28:42 | xam | hehe |
| 02:28:56 | bluechip | NOTHING that can be done in C++ cannot be reproduced in C |
| 02:29:11 | bluechip | unless you consider methodology to be a confining factor |
| 02:29:50 | xam | bluechip: yes, but ... it would be *much* more hassle to implement workarounds for qt than to do implement a replacement |
| 02:30:27 | xam | bluechip: QT makes quite an extensive of use of C++ features ... unfortunately |
| 02:30:47 | xam | bluechip: nothing you can 'easily' work around with C |
| 02:31:06 | bluechip | :( |
| 02:31:17 | bluechip | yes, "easy" has to be a key word I appreciate |
| 02:31:23 | xam | what about a GTK-port then? |
| 02:31:36 | xam | ;) just kidding |
| 02:32:19 | xam | but I'd love the idea to have something like a album icon/picture feature |
| 02:32:49 | bluechip | gonna burn the crap out of the batteries to keep it permanently displayed though |
| 02:32:59 | midknight2k3 | SDD DFF! |
| 02:33:02 | xam | I suppose you could even write a picture preview plugin ... |
| 02:33:27 | xam | bluechip: nope, not at all if you don't use the 'greyscale' hack |
| 02:33:44 | bluechip | sorry, yes, i WAS referring to the greyscaling |
| 02:34:28 | xam | bluechip: I'd say even if you display the icon with greyscale, it would only be shown if you select a new song |
| 02:35:07 | xam | bluechip: I don't thing the greyscaling takes lots of power ... it's just pixel flipping after all |
| 02:36:20 | xam | the doom demo sucks batteries out because it constantly reads from harddisk |
| 02:36:45 | bluechip | the processor is constantly updating the screen |
| 02:37:43 | xam | it's just a bitmap transfer ... that shouldn't need much processing power and therefore battery power |
| 02:38:32 | bluechip | the screen generates so much heat that it slows down apparently |
| 02:38:41 | midknight2k3 | psh |
| 02:38:43 | midknight2k3 | yea right |
| 02:39:04 | xam | 'screen generates heat' ? |
| 02:39:10 | midknight2k3 | yea RIGHT |
| 02:40:01 | xam | oh, that's why my casio watch has a fan built-in ... |
| 02:40:14 | bluechip | <shrugs> |
| 02:40:54 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 02:41:54 | LinusN | midknight2k3: that's why your lcd flickers more after viewing the doom3 movie a few times |
| 02:42:06 | midknight2k3 | its bad for the lcd? |
| 02:42:08 | bluechip | indeed |
| 02:42:18 | midknight2k3 | is it bad* |
| 02:42:28 | bluechip | mk: it's all "wear and tear" |
| 02:42:43 | midknight2k3 | is it more wear and tear than normal usage? |
| 02:42:52 | bluechip | yes |
| 02:43:01 | midknight2k3 | OH NO |
| 02:43:03 | midknight2k3 | how much |
| 02:43:08 | bluechip | plus you will likely have the LEDs on whilst watching |
| 02:43:09 | midknight2k3 | is it like, gonna break |
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| 02:43:13 | bluechip | no |
| 02:43:15 | xam | actually if you increase the temperature, you increase the speed of a processor (very slightly), but you also increase the electric leaks and also other errors might occur, lit random bit flips etc |
| 02:43:43 | bluechip | heat is, for the sake of this discussion, current from your batteries |
| 02:44:02 | xam | heat is high temperature |
| 02:44:18 | bluechip | are you sure? |
| 02:44:27 | xam | bluechip: yes |
| 02:44:50 | bluechip | is it relative or absolute? |
| 02:44:58 | xam | you can test it: turn the gas oven on, and but your hand in the flames |
| 02:45:05 | midknight2k3 | no thanks. |
| 02:45:09 | xam | but=put |
| 02:45:33 | bluechip | i put my hand on the back of my archos earlier - i thought it was giving off a LOT of heat |
| 02:45:49 | xam | now get a 12v battery and short-cut it with your fingers ... which one hurts more? |
| 02:46:03 | xam | which one is 'hotter' ? :) |
| 02:46:07 | bluechip | 1) |
| 02:46:15 | midknight2k3 | "flames?", midknight2k3 guesses |
| 02:46:33 | bluechip | unless you are wearing rings, and it is a car battery, then (2) |
| 02:46:58 | xam | bluechip: it's 1. the hard disk ... 2. batteries and 3. *maybe* the dsps/cpu, albeit I guess the embedded chips don't produce much heat |
| 02:47:25 | bluechip | xam: you are, of course, 100% right :) |
| 02:49:21 | bluechip | bloody hell, a successful build :) ...now for the sim |
| 02:49:44 | midknight2k3 | lol |
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| 02:50:12 | xam | the bit-flips one the display is something you also see on some LCD-projectors ... however it's not the display itself, but rather the image processing chips that get too hot |
| 02:50:24 | xam | one=on ... I should go to bed soon |
| 02:50:35 | bluechip | night dude |
| 02:50:42 | midknight2k3 | night |
| 02:50:44 | xam | soon != now |
| 02:50:49 | xam | ;) |
| 02:50:51 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 02:50:52 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 02:55:53 | xam | would be nice if the MAS docu 'problem' could be resolved soon and we could get at least WAV support |
| 02:56:54 | bluechip | There are bigger issues than that which are stopping us |
| 02:57:22 | bluechip | mind you, I say that and I'm not sure what you think the problem is... |
| 02:57:26 | bluechip | I should ask... |
| 02:57:49 | bluechip | what do you suspect to be the problem? |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:24 | xam | 1. legal issues have to be resolved |
| 03:00:26 | xam | 2. tools must be available to code for the MAS chip, or at least docu that provides enough info to built tools |
| 03:00:27 | xam | 3. DSP programming is not the easies thing to do |
| 03:01:34 | diddystar5 | bye everyone |
| 03:01:38 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Bye") |
| 03:02:03 | bluechip | well forget 3, everything is easy when you know how it's done |
| 03:02:03 | bluechip | 2 is pretty much already resolved |
| 03:02:03 | bluechip | and yes, 1 is what is killing the project ...although we have written permission, there are some internal politics to overcome |
| 03:03:18 | midknight2k3 | anyone else have problems with longish avis? |
| 03:03:24 | xam | 3. IS an issue if you want to implement complex algorithms like OGG, FLAC, WMA ... I suppose you have never (re-)programmed algorithms for DSPs either ;) |
| 03:04:13 | bluechip | suppose all you like - you clearly are not very active on the dsp hacking scene, or else you would know what I have been up to the past few years |
| 03:04:37 | xam | bluechip: we have tools to delevop/reprogramme the MAS chip aswell? can they be used with the existing built-tools? |
| 03:04:42 | bluechip | as for support for all the weird codecs - I have no interest in these - I am looking for speech synth |
| 03:05:09 | bluechip | ...and it dont come no more simple than you |
| 03:05:10 | bluechip | ...nah, sorry, no simpler than PCM |
| 03:05:14 | bluechip | lol |
| 03:05:19 | xam | bluechip: you were collecting lots of docus for the MAS chip |
| 03:06:07 | midknight2k3 | this is great |
| 03:06:12 | midknight2k3 | i set up a template for rockbox videos |
| 03:06:19 | midknight2k3 | i can export anything with a few clicks |
| 03:06:29 | midknight2k3 | saved size, quality, etc |
| 03:07:04 | bluechip | so, xam, what is your DSP background? |
| 03:07:17 | xam | bluechip: I have programmed DSP chips in the past ... and it was nothing I'd like to do for living ... guess why it was so difficult to get infos in the first place? the company that produces the chips obviously also sells various codecs that they implement themselves in order to make money |
| 03:07:33 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:07:39 | midknight2k3 | IGNORE ME, SURE |
| 03:07:55 | bluechip | mk: butt in whenever you like ;) |
| 03:08:02 | midknight2k3 | :-) |
| 03:08:45 | bluechip | xam: unfortunately the information you have is inaccurate, but as it will only start and argument, I will allow you to believe whatever you like. |
| 03:09:02 | * | midknight2k3 sees flame war coming and ducks |
| 03:09:18 | xam | bluechip: I created DSP with VHDL back when I was a CS graduate in my university ... and implemented FFT codecs on these and commecial DSPs ... |
| 03:09:45 | bluechip | cool - you coded your own original FFT - <hats off> |
| 03:10:13 | midknight2k3 | uh |
| 03:10:18 | midknight2k3 | hats off |
| 03:10:32 | xam | bluechip: I did NOT have a click'n'build software that translates BASIC-style code into DSP code ... I just used VHDL to build the DSP itself ... |
| 03:11:14 | bluechip | yeah, i've only ever worked on the inside of DSP's in the past - the high-level/coding aspect I used to leave to the programmers |
| 03:11:40 | xam | bluechip: I guess with good commecial tools for a special DSP it way easier to create codecs for a DSP, but I never used such tools |
| 03:12:01 | bluechip | anyway, you are obvisouly VERY clever.. Why don't you chip in (excuse the pun) and do some work on the MAS DSP |
| 03:12:22 | midknight2k3 | calm down ppl |
| 03:12:32 | xam | bluechip: I'm currently busy doing a PhD in CS |
| 03:12:40 | xam | bluechip: not much time :-/ |
| 03:12:50 | bluechip | wow :) |
| 03:13:07 | midknight2k3 | man |
| 03:13:11 | midknight2k3 | ima port all my tv smashing vids |
| 03:13:17 | midknight2k3 | thank you, jorg! |
| 03:13:20 | xam | bluechip: albeit a totally different area ... case-based reasoning |
| 03:13:33 | bluechip | xam: so, super-dude, you gonna help? |
| 03:13:50 | xam | bluechip: not this year I'm afraid ;) |
| 03:14:08 | bluechip | xam: though you might say that - i'm psychic |
| 03:14:30 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:14:32 | midknight2k3 | ;p |
| 03:14:52 | midknight2k3 | :öiUZžšŸ |
| 03:14:59 | LinusN | time for me to get a few minutes of sleep |
| 03:15:08 | midknight2k3 | night! |
| 03:15:15 | midknight2k3 | thx for code update |
| 03:15:16 | bluechip | nite dude - tell me if that pdf reference helps |
| 03:15:21 | LinusN | cu some other day |
| 03:15:25 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 03:15:29 | LinusN | bluechip: yeah, i'll work on it |
| 03:15:47 | bluechip | so, mk, you gonna upload your conversion process? |
| 03:15:53 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 03:15:56 | | Part LinusN |
| 03:16:01 | midknight2k3 | o what |
| 03:16:15 | midknight2k3 | what now |
| 03:16:35 | bluechip | it's okay, if you'd prefer not to share, that's okay too |
| 03:17:12 | midknight2k3 | no what? |
| 03:17:17 | midknight2k3 | misunderstood |
| 03:17:29 | xam | bluechip: I don't have a 'homepage', just a few info's on a website: xam">http://www.cs.ucc.ie/~xam , but I think the university webserver is down ... at least I can't reach it |
| 03:18:13 | bluechip | yeah, dead dude |
| 03:18:33 | bluechip | ucc.ie? where's that? |
| 03:18:45 | midknight2k3 | bluechip: you mean my rockbox video? |
| 03:19:04 | xam | mhh, www.ucc.ie is also down ... wonder what they are up to |
| 03:19:30 | Sebulba02 | upgrades possibly? |
| 03:19:36 | xam | arggl, can't even access the mail servers ... I think they have a problem at my university |
| 03:22:21 | xam | yeah, likely ... I just look at the uptime statistics and they have been down on saturday for a couple of hours, and again now (since about 2 hours ago) |
| 03:22:43 | bluechip | start up a yahoo group :D |
| 03:23:37 | xam | Sebulba02: but why the whole campus network? not only the webservers, but everything ... I even can't access my office pcs |
| 03:25:23 | Sebulba02 | eh, maybe someone pulled the wrong plug? |
| 03:25:28 | xam | bluechip: sorry, ucc.ie is "National University of Ireland, Cork" also former known as "University College Cork", hence ucc.ie |
| 03:26:02 | bluechip | cool -so is it you guys who host the phone-spy computers? |
| 03:26:07 | xam | Sebulba02: yeah, the woman with the vacuum cleaner needed a socket ... |
| 03:26:18 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 03:26:45 | xam | phone-spy? I don't think so ... at least nobody told us ;-P |
| 03:27:09 | bluechip | time to go stamping on all the man holes on campus - lol |
| 03:27:33 | bluechip | wih i could recall their real name |
| 03:28:37 | bluechip | i did my degrees at essex |
| 03:28:47 | xam | I'm using a IPv6 tunnel broker ... everytime the network is down I loose 'credits' and if you loose credits too often, they'll permanently disconnect you and I'll have to find another tunnel broker :-/ |
| 03:29:26 | bluechip | they're on to you <arrrrrgghhhh> |
| 03:30:24 | xam | bluechip: I had this feeling all the time ... now I have proof! |
| 03:30:50 | bluechip | JANET wants your soul |
| 03:31:16 | xam | essex? Ahh, I remember you mentioning that you are 'a typical brit' (somewhere on the mailing list) |
| 03:31:25 | xam | bluechip: HEANET here |
| 03:31:48 | bluechip | i must stress that I fight the accent as much as I can |
| 03:31:57 | xam | hehe |
| 03:32:04 | bluechip | geezah |
| 03:32:07 | bluechip | lol |
| 03:33:21 | xam | well, it can't be as bad as the cork accent ... |
| 03:34:10 | bluechip | dat'll be aboot rait |
| 03:34:30 | xam | bluechip: http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/index.php?module=Dictionary&func=lettersearch&letterget=All&vid=1 |
| 03:34:36 | bluechip | (its sounds as bad as it reads) |
| 03:35:08 | xam | bluechip: we have (made-up) our own words here in cork |
| 03:35:13 | bluechip | lol |
| 03:35:17 | bluechip | this is funny :) |
| 03:35:23 | bluechip | I have a number of irish friends |
| 03:35:34 | bluechip | (close friend at liverpool uni) |
| 03:36:06 | bluechip | bendeco - LOL |
| 03:36:23 | bluechip | I heard a puppet dog shout that in a muppet movie |
| 03:36:46 | bluechip | WTF!!??? |
| 03:36:54 | xam | lol |
| 03:37:11 | bluechip | you are aware of it's origin i presume? |
| 03:37:52 | xam | nope, I wasn't born in cork ... I'm just living here for the last 3 years |
| 03:38:08 | bluechip | it's a spanish word |
| 03:38:22 | bluechip | which you might NOT want to use |
| 03:38:51 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 03:38:52 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 03:39:00 | midknight2k3 | bendeco? |
| 03:39:03 | xam | most of the people at the university don't speak this way, but ... many of the working class people do ... you can here it quite often actually ... the dictionary is NOT made up, they really use these words and phrases |
| 03:39:26 | bluechip | i believe you |
| 03:39:46 | bluechip | mk: take an educated guess, you are unlikely to be wrong unless you try |
| 03:41:23 | xam | bluechip: Ahh, that explains alot. about 250 years ago (or so) the spain armarda stranded at kinsale ... there is a lot of spanish influence there and in the galway region ... even the girls look a little bit spanish like (guess what: the stranded spanish guys didn't have much to do in their freetime back then;) |
| 03:42:05 | xam | bluechip: the girl in kinsale/galway have a darker skin than the typical irish pale one |
| 03:42:34 | bluechip | xam: cool, i never know that! :) |
| 03:43:41 | bluechip | can i change my dos path under bash anyone? |
| 03:43:49 | xam | bluechip: everybody is called 'boy' or 'feen' in cork, regardless the age ... was a little bit strange for me when I first came here ... the funny thing is the these made up works don't have the origin in the irish-gaelic language |
| 03:44:19 | xam | bluechip: dos path? what do you mean? |
| 03:44:40 | bluechip | np - too long to explain |
| 03:45:43 | Sebulba02 | using cygwin? |
| 03:45:48 | bluechip | yes |
| 03:45:59 | bluechip | trying to get a sim compile |
| 03:46:15 | Sebulba02 | Ah. |
| 03:46:16 | midknight2k3 | wai wha |
| 03:46:19 | midknight2k3 | i know about it |
| 03:46:47 | xam | also using cygwin here |
| 03:47:19 | xam | cd /cygdrive/c |
| 03:47:26 | midknight2k3 | oh boy |
| 03:47:27 | midknight2k3 | nm |
| 03:47:29 | midknight2k3 | sheez |
| 03:49:46 | xam | bluechip: if you want to change the location of cygwin under windows altogether it's a little bit of a hassle |
| 03:49:58 | midknight2k3 | <bluechip> trying to get a sim compile |
| 03:50:10 | midknight2k3 | sounds like he's trying to get a sim compile |
| 03:50:15 | bluechip | nah, i've spent all night repartitionoing my machine to circumvent this problem |
| 03:51:49 | bluechip | roland's dev kit does this just fine, but you can't get an sh-1 compile out of 98 |
| 03:52:05 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 03:52:07 | midknight2k3 | it doesnt work |
| 03:52:11 | bluechip | not on 98 |
| 03:52:25 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 03:52:31 | midknight2k3 | it doesnt not work on 98? |
| 03:52:42 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 03:52:43 | bluechip | which bit is causing the problem? |
| 03:53:38 | midknight2k3 | nothing nm |
| 03:54:29 | bluechip | i posted the error to the newsgroup - srch for ummmmmm... "sigchild" |
| 03:54:42 | midknight2k3 | no thx |
| 03:56:41 | bluechip | "reaping winning child" ...they should manufacture a cyborg version of this compiler - lol |
| 03:57:02 | | Quit scott666 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 03:57:07 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 03:57:13 | | Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) |
| 03:57:32 | bluechip | make |
| 03:57:37 | midknight2k3 | sdddd |
| 03:57:40 | midknight2k3 | zdfad |
| 03:57:42 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 03:57:43 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 03:57:43 | midknight2k3 | dfad |
| 03:57:45 | midknight2k3 | sfdA |
| 03:57:46 | midknight2k3 | adsf |
| 03:57:48 | midknight2k3 | adsfdsfasdfa |
| 03:58:18 | Sebulba02 | you okay midknight2k3? |
| 03:58:27 | bluechip | he needs attention |
| 03:58:35 | midknight2k3 | NO! MIDKNIGHT2K3 STATUS = BUSTED BEYOND REPAIR |
| 03:58:44 | midknight2k3 | TIMELINE: WILL DIE SOMETIME WITHIN MILLENIUM |
| 03:58:52 | bluechip | sdd? add? |
| 03:59:05 | midknight2k3 | SDD, EARTHLING |
| 03:59:13 | * | bluechip sniggers |
| 03:59:45 | midknight2k3 | ASDF, MA'AM |
| 04:00 |
| 04:02:00 | bluechip | hey, mk, could you do a "dir /s /b c:\cygwin >x.x" and send me the resut please? |
| 04:02:57 | midknight2k3 | surep |
| 04:03:47 | midknight2k3 | sure is taking a bit o time |
| 04:03:52 | bluechip | lol |
| 04:04:00 | bluechip | did you install EVERYTHING? |
| 04:04:04 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 04:04:09 | bluechip | ow! |
| 04:04:26 | midknight2k3 | not that bad |
| 04:04:28 | midknight2k3 | just a few gigs |
| 04:04:38 | midknight2k3 | ITS ALREADY LIKE 2.5MB |
| 04:04:41 | midknight2k3 | and counting |
| 04:04:42 | midknight2k3 | the text file |
| 04:04:57 | midknight2k3 | 2.8 |
| 04:05:00 | bluechip | hmm, actually, maybe that was a bid idea - thankx anyway |
| 04:05:01 | midknight2k3 | 3.5 |
| 04:05:06 | midknight2k3 | 3.9 |
| 04:05:07 | bluechip | bid=bad |
| 04:05:11 | midknight2k3 | 4.2 |
| 04:05:17 | midknight2k3 | 4.3 |
| 04:05:23 | midknight2k3 | 4.7MB |
| 04:05:27 | midknight2k3 | 4.9 |
| 04:05:33 | midknight2k3 | halted |
| 04:05:35 | midknight2k3 | 5.1MB |
| 04:05:40 | bluechip | hmmm, give it up dude - lol |
| 04:05:47 | midknight2k3 | its done |
| 04:05:56 | midknight2k3 | its gonna crash my system opening it |
| 04:06:12 | bluechip | get a real editor ;) |
| 04:06:16 | midknight2k3 | cool |
| 04:06:19 | midknight2k3 | it works |
| 04:06:23 | midknight2k3 | thats a LOT of stuff |
| 04:10:58 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 04:21:02 | xam | good night |
| 04:21:07 | midknight2k3 | night |
| 04:21:07 | xam | I'm gonna go to bed |
| 04:21:10 | bluechip | nite |
| 04:21:11 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 04:21:25 | xam | nice talking to you both, cya |
| 04:21:27 | | Quit xam ("ChatZilla 0.9.35 [Mozilla rv:1.6a/20030923]") |
| 04:21:42 | midknight2k3 | chatzilla, wooo |
| 04:29:23 | | Quit Sebulba02 (Nick collision from services.) |
| 04:30:27 | | Join Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.173.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net) |
| 04:32:38 | bluechip | mk, do you know which components I REQUIRE |
| 04:32:46 | midknight2k3 | perl for one |
| 04:33:07 | bluechip | ta |
| 04:35:29 | bluechip | weiiird - perl already seems to be a part of the dev kit |
| 04:35:39 | bluechip | i hate this sysadmin crap :( |
| 04:35:51 | midknight2k3 | hm |
| 04:45:56 | Sebulba02 | whoa, cool, an open source OS for my TI-89 |
| 04:46:13 | midknight2k3 | wha? |
| 04:46:14 | midknight2k3 | where |
| 04:46:48 | Sebulba02 | http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/319/31951.html |
| 04:49:51 | midknight2k3 | cool |
| 04:50:56 | Sebulba02 | I wonder what happened to my TI-89.. |
| 04:51:09 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 04:51:11 | midknight2k3 | you LOST it? |
| 04:51:30 | Sebulba02 | Nah, I don't recall if I brought it home. |
| 04:51:57 | Sebulba02 | I don't think I would lose a $150 calculator |
| 04:52:03 | bluechip | mk, where does your "windows.h" file live on your install? |
| 04:52:24 | midknight2k3 | windows.h? |
| 04:52:32 | bluechip | windows.h! |
| 04:52:37 | midknight2k3 | uh |
| 04:52:47 | Sebulba02 | /usr/src :) |
| 04:52:57 | Sebulba02 | err, include maybe? |
| 04:53:06 | Sebulba02 | god, I need to goto sleep |
| 04:53:08 | bluechip | i hope so |
| 04:53:12 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 04:53:14 | bluechip | ther is no usr/src |
| 04:53:23 | midknight2k3 | i think there is for me |
| 04:53:35 | bluechip | mk can you tell me where "windows.h" lives? |
| 04:53:41 | midknight2k3 | not sure |
| 04:53:51 | bluechip | dir c:\cyginw\windows.h /s /p |
| 04:54:03 | Sebulba02 | find / -type f -name "windows.h" |
| 04:54:50 | bluechip | lol |
| 04:54:56 | bluechip | take your pick :) |
| 04:55:41 | midknight2k3 | find doesnt work |
| 04:55:44 | midknight2k3 | ill try blues way |
| 04:56:02 | bluechip | find is bash ...dir is dos |
| 04:56:13 | midknight2k3 | ahh |
| 04:56:13 | | Join Masskiller [0] (RIAA@bgp01039051bgs.southg01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 04:56:25 | Masskiller | i wanna turn my damn mp3 player off while im charging |
| 04:56:27 | Masskiller | someone fix that |
| 04:56:27 | Masskiller | lol |
| 04:56:32 | Masskiller | :\ |
| 04:56:47 | midknight2k3 | hardware issue |
| 04:56:50 | bluechip | you mean blank display and little green light goes out? |
| 04:56:52 | midknight2k3 | "issue" |
| 04:57:00 | midknight2k3 | not possible |
| 04:57:12 | midknight2k3 | Directory of c:\cygwin\usr\include\w32api |
| 04:57:12 | midknight2k3 | 09/12/2003 05:37 AM 2,875 windows.h |
| 04:57:12 | midknight2k3 | 1 File(s) 2,875 bytes |
| 04:57:25 | bluechip | ta |
| 04:58:21 | bluechip | :( it's already then |
| 04:58:25 | * | bluechip starts to weep |
| 04:58:31 | midknight2k3 | dfad |
| 04:58:32 | bluechip | ...like a baby |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:56 | bluechip | you okay inregedit? |
| 05:01:05 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 05:01:08 | midknight2k3 | yesw |
| 05:01:09 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 05:01:52 | bluechip | could you do this please: |
| 05:01:54 | bluechip | regedit /e old.reg "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions" |
| 05:02:16 | bluechip | ...and send me old.reg |
| 05:02:38 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
| 05:03:07 | midknight2k3 | dcc ok? |
| 05:03:14 | bluechip | ta |
| 05:03:15 | midknight2k3 | i guess thats a yes |
| 05:03:18 | midknight2k3 | lol np |
| 05:03:24 | bluechip | ;) |
| 05:04:11 | bluechip | lol - think i;ll just run that on mine and see if ti helps :) |
| 05:05:42 | bluechip | hmm maybe not |
| 05:06:15 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 05:06:38 | bluechip | drive flags are different and im not hapy about that |
| 05:06:43 | bluechip | you;re ntfs? |
| 05:08:04 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 05:08:12 | midknight2k3 | no comments pls |
| 05:08:12 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 05:08:16 | bluechip | okay - i'll botch a new one form the old two |
| 05:08:41 | Sebulba02 | for windows, whats wrong with ntfs? |
| 05:08:50 | bluechip | im fat32 |
| 05:10:10 | Sebulba02 | eek |
| 05:10:23 | Sebulba02 | running win98? |
| 05:10:24 | bluechip | suits my needs |
| 05:10:35 | midknight2k3 | i dislike when people, just because they dont do things the exact same way, argue over the fact that their way is better |
| 05:10:45 | midknight2k3 | "i dont use mozilla. IE rocks" |
| 05:10:49 | bluechip | here here |
| 05:11:01 | midknight2k3 | or "I use firebird 0.6 . 0.7 is bloated" |
| 05:11:09 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 05:11:16 | Sebulba02 | haven't heard that one |
| 05:11:24 | midknight2k3 | me either |
| 05:11:25 | bluechip | depends on the attitude, if it is a constructive suggestion, that that's cool |
| 05:11:27 | midknight2k3 | just example lol |
| 05:11:32 | midknight2k3 | suggestion? sure |
| 05:11:36 | midknight2k3 | not complaint |
| 05:11:38 | bluechip | example... |
| 05:11:39 | midknight2k3 | or brag |
| 05:11:42 | Sebulba02 | I was just curious.. |
| 05:11:56 | midknight2k3 | lol i want aiming at you |
| 05:11:58 | bluechip | I suggest everyone who uses IE, gives Opera a try |
| 05:12:00 | midknight2k3 | just at the world |
| 05:12:03 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 05:12:05 | midknight2k3 | i loved opera |
| 05:12:06 | midknight2k3 | a lot |
| 05:12:11 | Sebulba02 | opera rules |
| 05:12:26 | midknight2k3 | but mozilla is better. |
| 05:12:29 | bluechip | lol |
| 05:12:29 | midknight2k3 | ^^ good example |
| 05:12:33 | midknight2k3 | example. |
| 05:12:38 | Sebulba02 | though its a royal pain in the arse to write webpages for |
| 05:12:39 | midknight2k3 | thats what i hate when people do that |
| 05:12:52 | midknight2k3 | well |
| 05:12:57 | midknight2k3 | not really like that |
| 05:13:00 | midknight2k3 | ah FORGET IT |
| 05:13:03 | midknight2k3 | you get my drift |
| 05:13:04 | bluechip | YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 05:13:09 | bluechip | thanks mk :) |
| 05:13:15 | midknight2k3 | "i use premiere 6.5! vegas 4 sucks" |
| 05:13:27 | bluechip | not sure about the 4 warnings - but it looks liek a successful compile :) |
| 05:13:33 | midknight2k3 | "i use xp pro. xp home is much less <stable, feature filled, etc>" |
| 05:13:39 | midknight2k3 | cool |
| 05:14:06 | Sebulba02 | <opinion> win xp is too bloated . |
| 05:14:25 | midknight2k3 | they only say that |
| 05:14:33 | bluechip | I persoanlly like to stay as close to my hardware as possible, but that's because of my background |
| 05:14:34 | midknight2k3 | if (a) you use xp, (b) they dont |
| 05:14:53 | Sebulba02 | I won't touch it unless I have to.. |
| 05:15:31 | Sebulba02 | 2k is installed for what I actually use windows for, which is very little. |
| 05:15:59 | bluechip | 98se does me just fine ! |
| 05:16:09 | bluechip | weiirdness |
| 05:16:33 | bluechip | mk, can you do me a favour and build a winsim from the 2.1 release code? |
| 05:16:41 | Masskiller | hey |
| 05:16:44 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 05:16:44 | bluechip | ho |
| 05:16:45 | Masskiller | if i turn my mp3 player on |
| 05:16:48 | Masskiller | while its plugged in |
| 05:16:56 | Masskiller | i cant get it back to that "charging" screen |
| 05:16:58 | midknight2k3 | thatd be hard |
| 05:17:02 | Masskiller | when i try to turn it off |
| 05:17:05 | markw | midknight2k3: not to get into a browser war, but when is IE going to support simple things like tabbed browsing, and pop-up blocking? :) |
| 05:17:06 | Masskiller | it says "CHARGING" |
| 05:17:13 | Masskiller | and wont let me get out of file view |
| 05:17:16 | midknight2k3 | im with you, mark |
| 05:17:30 | midknight2k3 | just saying people wod say "ie rocks" because they USE it are stupid |
| 05:17:31 | bluechip | mass: turn it off :) |
| 05:17:37 | Masskiller | too tough |
| 05:17:38 | Masskiller | lol |
| 05:17:44 | markw | midknight2k3: gotcha. |
| 05:17:51 | Sebulba02 | markw: it supports tabbing, sorta.. XP handles it for you :) |
| 05:17:57 | midknight2k3 | linux user -> linux rocks |
| 05:17:59 | markw | midknight2k3: they haven't ported IE to linux yet either. |
| 05:18:00 | Masskiller | lo |
| 05:18:02 | midknight2k3 | windows user -> window srocks |
| 05:18:05 | midknight2k3 | i dont care |
| 05:18:08 | * | midknight2k3 hates ire |
| 05:18:09 | midknight2k3 | ie |
| 05:18:14 | * | Masskiller eats ie |
| 05:18:30 | Masskiller | i eat shit like IE for breakfast |
| 05:18:34 | Masskiller | even though i dont eat breakfast |
| 05:18:47 | * | Sebulba02 password protected IE from everything and forgot the passwd. |
| 05:18:48 | bluechip | yumm, shit on toast, with conrflakes - my favourite |
| 05:18:52 | bluechip | lol |
| 05:18:58 | Masskiller | the other day |
| 05:19:06 | Masskiller | my windows login screen wouldnt accept my password |
| 05:19:10 | Masskiller | i put it in right |
| 05:19:15 | bluechip | midk: so any chance of checking a bug for me please? |
| 05:19:17 | Masskiller | and i made sure of it like 10 times |
| 05:19:17 | midknight2k3 | arg |
| 05:19:20 | Masskiller | but it wouldnt take it |
| 05:19:21 | midknight2k3 | a a a |
| 05:19:23 | midknight2k3 | AAAH |
| 05:19:24 | Masskiller | so i restarted and then it worked |
| 05:19:27 | midknight2k3 | OVERLOAD OF MESSAGES |
| 05:19:27 | Sebulba02 | hope your admin pass works then |
| 05:19:30 | Masskiller | i thought my computer was dead |
| 05:19:30 | Masskiller | lol |
| 05:19:37 | midknight2k3 | a bug |
| 05:19:39 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 05:19:47 | bluechip | to go BACK to the charger screen OFF is the correct solution |
| 05:20:00 | midknight2k3 | uh? |
| 05:20:04 | Masskiller | it says "Battery: Charging" |
| 05:20:10 | Masskiller | and wont let me get back to the charging screen |
| 05:20:13 | Sebulba02 | mine did too |
| 05:20:16 | bluechip | yeah, was gonna test ur plugin at last, and the menu option is broken - LOL |
| 05:20:23 | midknight2k3 | mine? |
| 05:20:26 | Masskiller | that charging message pops up over my file browser |
| 05:20:29 | midknight2k3 | whats where I CANT JUGGLE ALL THIS |
| 05:20:32 | Masskiller | :| |
| 05:20:34 | bluechip | yes midk (sorry) |
| 05:20:57 | midknight2k3 | lol noones fault |
| 05:20:58 | bluechip | mass: u got a recorder? |
| 05:21:04 | Masskiller | yes |
| 05:21:17 | bluechip | let me clone your eery move now... |
| 05:21:21 | bluechip | lol |
| 05:21:23 | bluechip | every |
| 05:21:24 | Masskiller | ok |
| 05:21:26 | Masskiller | PM |
| 05:22:44 | Masskiller | [11:21:40pm] <Masskiller> it wont let you |
| 05:22:44 | Masskiller | [11:21:41pm] <Masskiller> lol |
| 05:22:44 | Masskiller | [11:22:35pm] <bluechip> fuck! i can't even turn on |
| 05:22:45 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Masskiller |
| 05:22:45 | Masskiller | lol |
| 05:23:01 | Sebulba02 | ouch |
| 05:23:20 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 05:23:29 | Masskiller | that would be cool if my battery actually was -1% full |
| 05:23:31 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 05:23:32 | Masskiller | it would always be charging |
| 05:23:32 | Masskiller | lol |
| 05:23:34 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 05:23:36 | midknight2k3 | itd be DEAD |
| 05:23:39 | Masskiller | no |
| 05:23:40 | Masskiller | -1% |
| 05:23:44 | Masskiller | loll |
| 05:23:51 | Masskiller | it would be charging |
| 05:23:52 | Masskiller | lol |
| 05:24:07 | Masskiller | cause 1% means it has 1% power left |
| 05:24:12 | Masskiller | -1% means? |
| 05:24:12 | Masskiller | lol |
| 05:24:25 | Sebulba02 | "time to die" |
| 05:24:36 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 05:25:28 | Masskiller | yeah |
| 05:25:29 | Masskiller | lol |
| 05:26:09 | Masskiller | my hair feels so clean :D |
| 05:26:16 | Masskiller | and soft |
| 05:26:19 | Masskiller | mmmm |
| 05:26:30 | Masskiller | i forgot to shower for like 2 days :\ |
| 05:26:43 | midknight2k3 | ddd |
| 05:26:51 | Masskiller | ddd to you too :\\ |
| 05:27:49 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 05:27:50 | midknight2k3 | dfad |
| 05:27:51 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 05:29:10 | bluechip | mk - is it okay to test that bug for me, or is it a pain? |
| 05:29:21 | midknight2k3 | on sim? |
| 05:29:25 | bluechip | yeah |
| 05:29:37 | bluechip | (oops two "mk"s now) |
| 05:29:54 | bluechip | Mass has found a lovely bug in the firmware |
| 05:30:03 | earHertz_ | battery percentage is something of an approximation |
| 05:30:11 | midknight2k3 | not really |
| 05:30:15 | midknight2k3 | eary |
| 05:30:48 | bluechip | I also notice that with Archos Firmware 1.28, I cannot power up the Recorder whilst it is charging! |
| 05:30:48 | earHertz_ | for FMRs, looking at the voltage can give you a better idwa of pwer lef |
| 05:31:13 | earHertz_ | bluechip: IIRC, I could |
| 05:31:34 | bluechip | weird |
| 05:32:00 | earHertz_ | On an FMR, it pays until voltage dipd below 3 volts |
| 05:32:37 | earHertz_ | Theykey factor is disk spin-up: the disk spinup temprarily reduces bvoltage by about .4 volts |
| 05:32:38 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 05:32:39 | midknight2k3 | ddd |
| 05:32:54 | earHertz_ | if the volatge goes under 2.6 volts, the unit poers off |
| 05:33:11 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 05:33:15 | earHertz_ | really |
| 05:33:20 | midknight2k3 | neat |
| 05:33:36 | bluechip | mk - any chance of some help? |
| 05:33:43 | earHertz_ | I fact, I can show you charts and graphs derived from real-time voltage smpling |
| 05:33:52 | midknight2k3 | bluechip: on the SIM? |
| 05:33:56 | bluechip | yeah |
| 05:35:04 | earHertz_ | here's a graph: http://www.diffenbach.org/rockbox/ebl_test/results/320chart.html |
| 05:36:10 | earHertz_ | In the graph, you'll see that when you get to 2.9 volts, you're very close to out of power |
| 05:37:14 | midknight2k3 | neat |
| 05:37:17 | earHertz_ | But with the extended battery life patch, you still have an hour aftr you hit 2.9 volts |
| 05:37:40 | earHertz_ | with the standard software, you have about 20 minutes |
| 05:37:47 | bluechip | nice work |
| 05:38:15 | bluechip | EH: do you have a working compiler on your machine? |
| 05:38:32 | earHertz_ | I should note, however, this presumes that it's doingnothing but straigt playing: any directory access, etc., would limit time further, so in real life, I'd use 3.0 volts as the effective bottom |
| 05:38:40 | earHertz_ | I do. |
| 05:38:50 | earHertz_ | But I don't have an archos, it's in the shop |
| 05:38:57 | bluechip | could I ask you to confirm a bug for me please? |
| 05:39:03 | earHertz_ | Maybe. |
| 05:39:06 | bluechip | ah this is handy, as it is a bug in the sim :) |
| 05:39:14 | midknight2k3 | sim sucks |
| 05:39:17 | midknight2k3 | dont count on it |
| 05:39:26 | earHertz_ | I've NEVER been able to get the sim running |
| 05:39:27 | bluechip | compile the 2.1 release code for windows sim and try to access a plugin |
| 05:39:37 | bluechip | please |
| 05:39:43 | bluechip | ah |
| 05:39:55 | bluechip | never mind ;) |
| 05:40:11 | earHertz_ | I've running sygwin under windows, iand I can't get the windows or the x sim to work |
| 05:40:18 | earHertz_ | cygwin, even |
| 05:40:28 | bluechip | what os do you use |
| 05:40:48 | earHertz_ | Windows 2000 |
| 05:40:57 | bluechip | in theory there is a working dev kit for that |
| 05:41:05 | earHertz_ | In theory. ;) |
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| 05:44:24 | | Nick bc|brb is now known as BC (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 05:44:47 | BC | i'm sure it would be okay to let you try it, if you like? |
| 05:47:12 | earHertz_ | Sure |
| 05:47:44 | BC | be aware that this is a beta - but the only known prblem so far is a win98 issue |
| 05:49:06 | midknight2k3 | gotta go all! |
| 05:49:11 | BC | nite |
| 05:49:22 | midknight2k3 | bye ear by bluechip |
| 05:49:49 | midknight2k3 | nice site, ear |
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| 05:51:12 | BC | eH: file ahoy |
| 05:51:25 | earHertz_ | what is it you want me to try, blue? |
| 05:51:59 | BC | it's getting late over here - perhaps I will be more focussed another day |
| 05:52:10 | BC | there appears to be a bug in the 2.1 release code! |
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| 05:52:48 | BC | but my compiler is a botch job, so i wanted some confirmation before I submitted a p bug notice |
| 05:52:59 | BC | ....and even try to hunt it down! |
| 05:53:31 | earHertz_ | What's the bug? |
| 05:53:40 | BC | no plugin support |
| 05:53:48 | BC | +others |
| 05:54:03 | BC | dead menu options |
| 05:55:06 | earHertz_ | Hmm. |
| 05:55:12 | earHertz_ | zSerious bug |
| 05:55:18 | BC | warnings during compile |
| 05:55:31 | BC | nahhh, not SERIOUS, just a pain and woth fixing |
| 05:55:40 | BC | BUT |
| 05:55:46 | BC | is it my compiler? |
| 05:56:36 | earHertz_ | ah. |
| 05:57:28 | earHertz_ | So you want me to compile 2.1? |
| 05:57:36 | BC | that's about it :) |
| 05:57:59 | earHertz_ | for whcih model? |
| 05:58:10 | BC | recorder win32 sim |
| 05:59:04 | earHertz_ | hanfg on |
| 05:59:35 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK BC |
| 05:59:35 | BC | however, of cours..... [04:40] <earHertz_> I've running sygwin under windows, iand I can't get the windows or the x sim to work |
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| 06:00:35 | earHertz_ | Well, but I could compile it and email it to you |
| 06:00:57 | BC | it compiles but does not run!? weird |
| 06:06:03 | BC | does the player have plugin support? |
| 06:08:13 | earHertz_ | win32 or x11 sim? |
| 06:08:19 | BC | win32 |
| 06:12:28 | earHertz_ | Hey, it actually is running for mew |
| 06:13:03 | BC | can you see the recording menu? |
| 06:13:25 | BC | can you access the plugins menu? |
| 06:14:22 | earHertz_ | meneu|record? No. |
| 06:14:31 | BC | one bug |
| 06:14:35 | BC | menu|plugins? |
| 06:14:50 | BC | the screen bug I fixed is also back |
| 06:16:42 | earHertz_ | Neither Plugins nor Firmware is accessable |
| 06:16:49 | BC | hmmmmmm |
| 06:16:56 | earHertz_ | I suspect it's a mater of the IFDEFs for versions |
| 06:16:57 | BC | so it is NOT my compiler |
| 06:17:10 | BC | did you get 5 warnings during compile? |
| 06:17:13 | earHertz_ | yeah |
| 06:17:48 | earHertz_ | ../../apps/plugin.c:111: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type |
| 06:17:49 | earHertz_ | ../../apps/plugin.c:113: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type |
| 06:17:51 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK earHertz_ |
| 06:17:51 | earHertz_ | ../../apps/plugin.c:114: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type |
| 06:17:52 | earHertz_ | ../../apps/plugin.c:116: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type |
| 06:18:14 | BC | uisw32.rc:11:20: afxres.h: No such file or directory |
| 06:20:39 | earHertz_ | yeah, that too |
| 06:21:09 | BC | thanks, I can report and fix these ..the first one is simple - must be a glitch in the configure script |
| 06:21:37 | BC | -DHAVE_MAS3587F |
| 06:22:08 | earHertz_ | Oh, by the way, thanks for your support on the list |
| 06:22:36 | BC | You're welcome |
| 06:24:04 | BC | who do you post as there? |
| 06:26:37 | earHertz_ | TP Diffenabch |
| 06:26:44 | BC | ahaa |
| 06:27:36 | earHertz_ | > > every forum has it's fair share of loons, wait around |
| 06:27:37 | earHertz_ | > |
| 06:27:38 | earHertz_ | >Lee, I'm not sure who you're implying is a loon. I hope you're not |
| 06:27:40 | earHertz_ | >suggesting I am. |
| 06:27:41 | earHertz_ | TPD |
| 06:27:43 | earHertz_ | hee hee - you and me both ;) |
| 06:27:51 | BC | :) |
| 06:28:22 | BC | I just hope all my ranting about WAV gets a chance to pay off now |
| 06:28:40 | BC | Got well and truly dubbed a loon over that - LOL |
| 06:31:17 | earHertz_ | What were you ranting about wav? |
| 06:31:36 | BC | that is was not impossible |
| 06:32:23 | earHertz_ | No, just very difficult |
| 06:32:34 | earHertz_ | we'd have to program the mas chip |
| 06:32:38 | BC | yep |
| 06:32:50 | BC | 60 instructions |
| 06:33:08 | BC | 42 to setup 18 to run the loop |
| 06:34:21 | earHertz_ | Yeah, what 60? |
| 06:34:32 | BC | we're close |
| 06:35:06 | earHertz_ | how close? |
| 06:35:46 | BC | the biggest hurdle we now have is political |
| 06:36:10 | earHertz_ | hmm? |
| 06:36:25 | BC | whether releasing such stuff would upset mas |
| 06:36:59 | earHertz_ | well, being sued is to be avoided |
| 06:37:10 | BC | indeed |
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| 06:37:42 | BC | oohh we have a mystery guest |
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| 06:45:27 | BC | game over - nite all |
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| 07:25:49 | earHertz_ | hmm? |
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| 11:05:23 | earHertz_ | yo, anyone here? |
| 11:12:26 | dwihno | \o/ |
| 11:18:05 | earHertz_ | ah, nevermind, grepping the code answered my question |
| 11:19:25 | earHertz_ | wait, another question: is the rock memory sttaically allocated? |
| 11:19:38 | earHertz_ | or dynamically when the rock loads? |
| 11:19:42 | dwihno | I would guess so. |
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| 15:13:26 | uiibaa | I just got an archos av 120 recorder... and already, Read Access Error. Can't read hard disk |
| 15:14:12 | uiibaa | is the av 120 just crap? cause I got an older archos from them, and have had no problems (well, that is, after I installed rockbox =P) |
| 15:42:55 | earHertz_ | Archos is famous for hardware that arrives dead. send it back. |
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| 16:23:06 | uiibaa | cause I don't wanna return to get another if it's gonna break again |
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| 18:56:03 | casio | hi all, quick question (hopefully) that I can't find an answer to on the mailing list... |
| 18:56:26 | casio | i just upgraded to 2.1, and now my battery indicator shows -1% (a ? in the top left)...any idea what's wrong? |
| 18:59:33 | casio | anyone here? |
| 18:59:55 | casio | I have a recorder 15 |
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| 19:14:27 | Dogger | anyone alive? |
| 19:15:17 | casio | yes, and please disregard my question −− it's just the "wait a minute before battery read" feature |
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| 20:10:07 | Dogger | hey are there any docs on the hardware? |
| 20:10:14 | Dogger | or do I need to read all the source? |
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| 21:58:34 | earHertz_ | mostly you need to read the source |
| 21:58:48 | earHertz_ | there are some mnaufacturer's docs on the web site |
| 21:58:57 | earHertz_ | and you can ask on the mailing list |
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| 22:31:41 | DjMoufle | are Rockbox exist for Gmini120 ? |
| 22:32:08 | scott666 | no |
| 22:33:32 | DjMoufle | Does there exist an equivalent? |
| 22:33:59 | track | not yet |
| 22:34:04 | DjMoufle | k |
| 22:34:05 | DjMoufle | thx |
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| 22:49:32 | _aLF | out of topic : could someone read and correct my english about an article ? (about pedagogy and xml) |
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| 23:38:47 | zYgoat | eyyyyyy |
| 23:39:10 | zYgoat | silly i didn't discover this before |
| 23:39:23 | zYgoat | i'm getting an mp3 recorder - main use is recording off FM |
| 23:39:47 | zYgoat | iriver ifp390 (256MB) for 260 euro or archos FM Jukebox Recorder (20 GB) for 199 euro? |
| 23:40:19 | zYgoat | iriver archos |
| 23:40:34 | zYgoat | 24 h 6 h est. real battery life |
| 23:41:04 | zYgoat | good FM poor FM (?) |
| 23:41:40 | zYgoat | 2hrs "unlimited" hrs recording time |
| 23:41:54 | zYgoat | 320 128 kbps max encoding rate |
| 23:42:32 | zYgoat | ogg no ogg |
| 23:43:08 | zYgoat | closed open source firmware/apps |
| 23:43:46 | zYgoat | so the poor reception (and horror stories) scared me off the archos |
| 23:44:59 | zYgoat | but what do you think of porting rockbox (rewriting a lot i assume) to ARM7 / Philips SAA7750? |
| 23:45:23 | zYgoat | oh s/ifp390/ifp590 |
| 23:47:59 | zYgoat | hah i see uClinux on arm7 |
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