00:01:35 | [IDC]Dragon | Hi Zagor! |
00:01:39 | Zagor | hi |
00:02:06 | [IDC]Dragon | How about some plugin API tweaks? |
00:02:33 | Zagor | any specific suggestions? |
00:02:49 | [IDC]Dragon | Shure: |
00:02:57 | zYgoat | that's a microphone brand |
00:02:58 | [IDC]Dragon | 1) get mp3 buffer |
00:03:35 | [IDC]Dragon | 2) play an mp3, of more specific, load it paused and bitswapped, then play |
00:04:28 | [IDC]Dragon | so much for now, later I could offer halftone functions |
00:04:46 | [IDC]Dragon | (to be used by image viewers) |
00:05:09 | [IDC]Dragon | actually, 2) would be most fun first |
00:06:15 | Zagor | have you looked at what is necessary to fix this? |
00:06:16 | zYgoat | nice job with that doom hack btw |
00:06:35 | [IDC]Dragon | fix what? |
00:06:43 | xam | zYgoat: actually shure also makes in-ear buds ;) |
00:07:03 | Zagor | which functions we need to export to get mp3 capability in the plugin |
00:07:04 | xam | anyway, I'm tired ... off to bed now |
00:07:12 | [IDC]Dragon | no... |
00:07:40 | [IDC]Dragon | I was lazy in that respect. |
00:08:02 | zYgoat | nyte |
00:08:07 | Zagor | night xam |
00:08:08 | xam | nite |
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00:09:11 | [IDC]Dragon | Maybe a generic queue post function would be a cool hack |
00:09:24 | [IDC]Dragon | messy, but powerful |
00:09:56 | Zagor | but you need mpeg_next() to be able to go to it, and then mpeg_play/stop/pause etc. |
00:10:54 | [IDC]Dragon | yea, lots of private definitions |
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00:12:04 | midknight2k3 | hi all |
00:12:15 | [IDC]Dragon | (here we go) |
00:12:26 | midknight2k3 | I won't start |
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00:13:34 | midknight2k3 | but VERY NICE |
00:13:36 | midknight2k3 | that's all |
00:13:47 | midknight2k3 | i have a sample video if youd like it |
00:13:51 | midknight2k3 | it's a rockbox thing |
00:14:15 | [IDC]Dragon | where is it? |
00:14:23 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: what exactly does a queue post function do. |
00:14:43 | midknight2k3 | i can email it |
00:14:46 | [IDC]Dragon | elinenbe: it sends commands to threads |
00:14:48 | midknight2k3 | gimme a min |
00:15:00 | [IDC]Dragon | midknight2k3: probably too big |
00:15:36 | midknight2k3 | uh |
00:15:37 | midknight2k3 | not very |
00:15:44 | zYgoat | lol i can't believe it - i buy a mp3 FM recorder and they cancelled my favorite program 10 days ago |
00:15:49 | midknight2k3 | ill reencode it and stuff |
00:15:52 | midknight2k3 | lol! |
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00:20:56 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: wish I could help <grin> |
00:26:10 | midknight2k3 | hm |
00:26:17 | midknight2k3 | anyone ever heard of a Firewire to USB adapter? |
00:28:14 | midknight2k3 | guess it doesnt exist |
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00:29:58 | Guest75620 | can someone help me ? |
00:30:07 | Guest75620 | I have a recorder V2 software V1 hardware |
00:30:22 | Guest75620 | the new ajz works perfectly but the ucl doesn't load "invalid version" |
00:30:52 | midknight2k3 | why v2 software? what? |
00:30:57 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll try: what is "recorder V2 software V1 hardware"? |
00:31:03 | midknight2k3 | v1 rec? why try to flash v2 software? |
00:31:04 | Guest75620 | It has a V2 bootrom |
00:31:09 | midknight2k3 | oh |
00:31:09 | Guest75620 | but the hardware is a V1 |
00:31:12 | midknight2k3 | thats something else |
00:31:19 | midknight2k3 | jorg: change that its confusing |
00:31:21 | [IDC]Dragon | you mean, no boot ROM |
00:31:31 | midknight2k3 | "v2 recorder" on the page confuses peopel |
00:31:40 | [IDC]Dragon | midknight2k3; I did |
00:31:41 | Guest75620 | No I already solved the problem |
00:31:42 | midknight2k3 | maybe a small explanation? |
00:31:49 | Guest75620 | I must use recorder version (non v2) |
00:31:50 | midknight2k3 | someone came in before asking the same thing |
00:31:54 | Guest75620 | but now the ucl doesn't load |
00:32:14 | Guest75620 | it says "invalid version" |
00:32:24 | [IDC]Dragon | Guest75620: do you have the recorder withthe 4 AA cells? |
00:32:25 | Guest75620 | "incompatible version" sorry |
00:32:33 | Guest75620 | Yes I have |
00:32:43 | [IDC]Dragon | OK. |
00:32:56 | Guest75620 | The ajz works (even the new movies) but ucl no |
00:32:56 | [IDC]Dragon | use the recorder pack then |
00:33:05 | Guest75620 | I used it |
00:33:08 | Guest75620 | downloaded 2 times |
00:33:13 | [IDC]Dragon | have you flashed before? |
00:33:16 | Guest75620 | yes |
00:33:18 | Guest75620 | perfectly |
00:33:24 | Guest75620 | even with wrong versions :P |
00:33:32 | Guest75620 | the recorder one was the correct one |
00:33:35 | [IDC]Dragon | what does your h/w info say? |
00:33:41 | Guest75620 | one moment |
00:34:05 | Guest75620 | boot rom = none |
00:34:11 | Guest75620 | mask 0x032 |
00:34:16 | Guest75620 | 0x0302 |
00:34:33 | Guest75620 | flash m=BF D=D6 |
00:34:37 | Guest75620 | is it enough ? |
00:34:39 | Zagor | i'm off to bed. bye guys! |
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00:34:45 | [IDC]Dragon | version? |
00:34:45 | Guest75620 | bye |
00:34:48 | Guest75620 | 1.28 |
00:35:00 | [IDC]Dragon | OK. |
00:35:07 | Guest75620 | the 7 days ago ucl worked |
00:35:13 | [IDC]Dragon | which rockbox are you running? |
00:35:22 | Guest75620 | the today's build |
00:35:30 | Guest75620 | or better I flashed an old one |
00:35:32 | [IDC]Dragon | including .rocks? |
00:35:37 | Guest75620 | yeah |
00:35:46 | Guest75620 | i overwritten the folder |
00:35:55 | [IDC]Dragon | then it should work, hmm |
00:35:58 | Guest75620 | with the new pack |
00:36:05 | Guest75620 | the ucl says "invalid versioN" |
00:36:20 | Guest75620 | no sorry again "incompatible version" |
00:36:32 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
00:36:35 | [IDC]Dragon | hang on... |
00:36:36 | midknight2k3 | thats the rocks problem |
00:38:00 | Guest75620 | here I am |
00:38:05 | [IDC]Dragon | there is no such message in "rockbox_flash.rock" |
00:38:33 | midknight2k3 | odd' |
00:38:45 | [IDC]Dragon | so your plugin is incompatible with the rockbox version you use |
00:38:48 | Guest75620 | a moment I redownload and retry to install the ucl |
00:39:02 | [IDC]Dragon | the ucl doesn't matter |
00:39:11 | Guest75620 | so I will copy all the plugins |
00:39:19 | [IDC]Dragon | if the pluging doesn't get that far |
00:39:43 | [IDC]Dragon | get the whole thing, plugins and .ajz |
00:40:00 | [IDC]Dragon | then rolo into the .ajz to be consistent |
00:40:01 | midknight2k3 | idc: thats what i mean |
00:40:02 | midknight2k3 | meant* |
00:40:12 | midknight2k3 | OHH |
00:40:13 | [IDC]Dragon | then play the ucl |
00:40:16 | midknight2k3 | i had that problem once! |
00:40:26 | midknight2k3 | replace all of .rockbox |
00:40:30 | midknight2k3 | worked for me |
00:40:57 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, it's safer to rolo into the new version first, so the plugins match in case there was a change |
00:41:36 | Guest75620 | rolo into the ajz works fine ! |
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00:41:56 | [IDC]Dragon | now play your ucl |
00:42:13 | Guest75620 | I updated only the rocks dir (overwriting all files) |
00:42:43 | Guest75620 | "Incompatible version" |
00:42:49 | Guest75620 | dunno why |
00:43:59 | [IDC]Dragon | then there must be something wrong with the daily build |
00:44:06 | midknight2k3 | guest |
00:44:11 | midknight2k3 | delete the ROCKS dir and then replace it |
00:44:53 | Guest75620 | I will try |
00:45:04 | Guest75620 | I make a chkdsk and then try to replace the dir |
00:45:22 | Guest75620 | another strange thing: i put the ajbrec.ajz in the root but it doesn't load automatically |
00:45:45 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, Rockbox doesn't do that |
00:45:51 | Guest75620 | ah ok |
00:45:59 | Guest75620 | I didn't know that |
00:46:02 | [IDC]Dragon | flash the version you'd like to have |
00:46:07 | midknight2k3 | i thought it did |
00:46:10 | [IDC]Dragon | if you can ;) |
00:46:28 | Guest75620 | often happens that files are not written in the archos HD and a chkdsk solve the file allocatione rror |
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00:47:28 | Guest75620 | There is some error in the file transfer process |
00:47:42 | Guest75620 | files are written or deleted in windows but rocks still recognize them |
00:47:49 | Guest75620 | only chkdsk solve |
00:48:28 | Guest75620 | No HD problems found |
00:48:34 | Guest75620 | I will try to delete the dir |
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00:49:58 | midknight2k3 | guest |
00:50:04 | Guest75620 | "incompatible version" |
00:50:05 | midknight2k3 | delete and re download |
00:50:10 | Guest75620 | done just now |
00:50:13 | midknight2k3 | hm |
00:50:18 | Guest75620 | still "incompatible version" |
00:50:26 | Guest75620 | the ajz works |
00:50:27 | midknight2k3 | ok last attempt: get a FULL version |
00:50:32 | midknight2k3 | and unzip that there |
00:50:38 | Guest75620 | all files ? |
00:50:38 | midknight2k3 | replacing .rockbox and the ajbrec and ucl |
00:50:40 | midknight2k3 | yes |
00:50:42 | midknight2k3 | all of it to root |
00:50:51 | Guest75620 | I did it |
00:50:58 | Guest75620 | those 3 things |
00:51:07 | Guest75620 | ucl ajz-(works) and .rocks |
00:51:35 | Guest75620 | dunno why |
00:51:35 | midknight2k3 | just unzip the whole thing |
00:51:37 | midknight2k3 | it worked for me |
00:51:41 | midknight2k3 | it may work for you |
00:51:48 | Guest75620 | but I deleted the .rockbox dir |
00:51:51 | Guest75620 | and re-copied it |
00:52:01 | midknight2k3 | oh |
00:52:03 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
00:52:16 | midknight2k3 | oh |
00:52:48 | Guest75620 | I try the yesterday build |
00:53:02 | midknight2k3 | i know! |
00:53:11 | midknight2k3 | get the rockbox_flash from jörg's pack |
00:53:16 | midknight2k3 | THATS WHAT DID IT. |
00:53:20 | Guest75620 | ??? |
00:53:23 | midknight2k3 | his works for the first |
00:53:24 | Guest75620 | where is the pack ? |
00:53:28 | midknight2k3 | idc? |
00:53:58 | midknight2k3 | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash/flash_rec.zip |
00:53:59 | midknight2k3 | here |
00:54:23 | Guest75620 | that's the old flash plugin ! |
00:54:30 | midknight2k3 | yes! |
00:54:32 | midknight2k3 | thats the one that works@1 |
00:54:37 | midknight2k3 | try it |
00:54:40 | midknight2k3 | youd be surprised |
00:54:53 | midknight2k3 | it should |
00:55:25 | Guest75620 | I used it to flash the updated-flash-rom version |
00:55:35 | midknight2k3 | try it. |
00:55:39 | midknight2k3 | or don't. |
00:56:11 | Guest75620 | I will in a few momnts |
00:56:26 | Guest75620 | firmware_flash or rock_flash ? |
00:57:16 | midknight2k3 | rockbox_flash |
00:57:58 | [IDC]Dragon | furst rolo into that version, make shure you have those plugins, too |
00:58:03 | [IDC]Dragon | first |
00:58:14 | midknight2k3 | i like the "shure" thing' |
00:58:25 | [IDC]Dragon | sure |
00:58:34 | midknight2k3 | nono |
00:58:37 | Guest75620 | IT WORKS ! GREAT !!! |
00:58:38 | midknight2k3 | keep it at shure :) |
00:58:42 | midknight2k3 | the old one? |
00:58:54 | Guest75620 | THANK YOU !!! I FLASHE DIT ! So the plugin in that daily build is wrong ? |
00:58:54 | * | midknight2k3 raises hands |
00:58:59 | midknight2k3 | I AM THA FLASH MASTA! |
00:59:02 | Guest75620 | ehehehheh |
00:59:08 | [IDC]Dragon | seem so, yes. |
00:59:13 | midknight2k3 | OH YEAH |
00:59:15 | midknight2k3 | uh huh |
00:59:16 | midknight2k3 | mm hmm |
00:59:18 | midknight2k3 | oh yeah! |
00:59:25 | [IDC]Dragon | did you play the ucl from the daily build, then? |
00:59:58 | Guest75620 | the ucl is from the daily build |
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01:00:05 | midknight2k3 | oh yeah |
01:00:08 | midknight2k3 | i wil |
01:00:08 | [IDC]Dragon | OK. |
01:00:09 | midknight2k3 | win* |
01:00:09 | Guest75620 | the flash plugin from the one linked above |
01:00:10 | midknight2k3 | ok thats it |
01:00:15 | midknight2k3 | i am officially the best |
01:00:19 | Guest75620 | ^_^ |
01:00:24 | midknight2k3 | wheres my space at the top of the credits? |
01:00:25 | [IDC]Dragon | The one from the pack would have been 2.1 again |
01:00:40 | [IDC]Dragon | not what you want |
01:00:40 | Guest75620 | I don't undersdtand dragon... |
01:00:49 | [IDC]Dragon | OK. |
01:00:55 | Guest75620 | what do u mean ? |
01:01:14 | [IDC]Dragon | you don't, sorry, I misread. |
01:01:57 | [IDC]Dragon | I mean, you can use .ajz and .rocks from my pack to have a "known good" platform |
01:02:15 | [IDC]Dragon | but use that to flash the ucl from the daily build. |
01:02:48 | [IDC]Dragon | Then you can exchange the .rocks for the daily build, too, to match that. |
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01:03:48 | midknight2k3 | psh |
01:03:53 | midknight2k3 | yea |
01:03:54 | midknight2k3 | thats it |
01:04:37 | Guest75620 | so I can leave the old plugin in my new rockbox daily build isn't it ? |
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01:06:11 | [IDC]Dragon | they're probably both useless in your case |
01:06:38 | [IDC]Dragon | you can try with the old one |
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01:08:49 | Guest75620 | Thank u dragon |
01:09:02 | diddystar5 | brb |
01:09:03 | Guest75620 | I would like to send u a pic taken with the new movie plugin in action |
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01:09:06 | [IDC]Dragon | you're welcome |
01:09:20 | [IDC]Dragon | send a movie ;) |
01:09:26 | midknight2k3 | i GOT A NEW DVCAM! |
01:09:32 | midknight2k3 | i can make a movie of it |
01:09:32 | Guest75620 | no it's a pic taken with my digicam |
01:09:40 | midknight2k3 | for those who cant use it for some reason |
01:09:47 | midknight2k3 | .... if you want that it |
01:09:48 | midknight2k3 | is* |
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01:17:46 | diddystar5 | yo DarthWufei |
01:17:51 | DarthWufei | Heya! |
01:17:59 | midknight2k3 | heya |
01:18:08 | track | hi didd |
01:18:15 | Guest75620 | It will be grat to play a movie mp3 while watching it ;) |
01:18:16 | diddystar5 | track!!! |
01:18:17 | diddystar5 | ;p; |
01:18:18 | diddystar5 | lol |
01:18:52 | midknight2k3 | ;p; |
01:18:58 | [IDC]Dragon | Guest75620: you can do so, but there is no sync |
01:19:06 | * | midknight2k3 plugs in cam |
01:19:42 | Guest75620 | :( |
01:19:48 | Guest75620 | Did u saw my pic '> |
01:19:49 | Guest75620 | ? |
01:19:56 | diddystar5 | *see |
01:20:15 | [IDC]Dragon | Guest75620: Just did, came out well |
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01:21:29 | Guest75620 | yes without flashes |
01:21:52 | Guest75620 | I used my macro option but i am tired and "handshaking"... it could come out better ! |
01:21:57 | Guest75620 | in playn dark i suppose |
01:22:00 | Guest75620 | plain |
01:22:01 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:22:03 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
01:22:37 | Guest75620 | it's 01:24 o'clock there |
01:22:47 | midknight2k3 | am? |
01:22:49 | [IDC]Dragon | speaking about tired |
01:22:49 | midknight2k3 | what |
01:22:52 | Guest75620 | am |
01:22:58 | [IDC]Dragon | I'd call it a day |
01:23:02 | midknight2k3 | 1:22 says "timezone 3: &RB" |
01:23:10 | [IDC]Dragon | cu |
01:23:13 | Guest75620 | cu |
01:23:17 | Guest75620 | and thanks ;) |
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01:23:34 | midknight2k3 | lets see |
01:23:37 | midknight2k3 | i have 3 timezones |
01:23:40 | midknight2k3 | 1 is my time |
01:23:43 | midknight2k3 | 2 is tracks time |
01:23:52 | midknight2k3 | 3 is linus, zagor, bagder, jorgs time |
01:23:56 | midknight2k3 | aka rockbox time |
01:23:57 | midknight2k3 | &RB |
01:24:04 | midknight2k3 | &rockBox |
01:24:05 | midknight2k3 | you get the idea |
01:24:09 | Guest75620 | :P |
01:24:35 | midknight2k3 | WE 12-17 1:24 AM TZ3 &RB |
01:25:09 | track | what is mikeholden's time? |
01:25:27 | midknight2k3 | dunno |
01:26:49 | Guest75620 | good night evcerybody |
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01:34:02 | zYgoat | thx fore the knowledge\ |
01:34:07 | meknight2k3 | lol |
01:34:16 | zYgoat | gnite |
01:34:21 | zYgoat | gotta boot into winblows |
01:34:24 | meknight2k3 | night |
01:34:26 | meknight2k3 | lol! |
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02:01:32 | top_bloke | my brain is rotted after that much tv |
02:01:51 | track | hi topbloke |
02:02:00 | top_bloke | but no time for that i gotta go watch some tv |
02:02:00 | midknight2k3 | lol |
02:02:07 | top_bloke | hello |
02:02:10 | track | :-) |
02:02:20 | midknight2k3 | lol |
02:02:26 | track | midknight gets upset if I mention ipod or gmini top_bloke |
02:02:46 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
02:03:16 | track | but then again i get upset if someone mentions mikeholden |
02:03:59 | midknight2k3 | ill be back in a few to a few half hours |
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06:33:50 | uiibaa | anyone else have probs with hispeed usb 2.0 and their archos? |
06:34:41 | uiibaa | it worked once, I was able to copy a file to the desktop |
06:36:58 | uiibaa | and then whenever I wanna try and copy something to or from it, it just sits there |
06:37:53 | uiibaa | some reason, I can still play the files, but if I wanna copy, it freezes up... also, can't run scandisc on it |
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14:05:54 | Guest75620 | Hi guys |
14:06:19 | Guest75620 | I made a VERY simple util to convert avi files to rvf in a one-click ! |
14:06:32 | Guest75620 | does anyone would like to try it ? |
14:06:47 | Guest75620 | the only thing is that you have to name your file MOVIE.AVI |
14:10:14 | Guest75620 | none ? |
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16:18:06 | Schnueff | got your hair cut? |
16:18:16 | kurzhaarrocker | yes, some time ago. :) |
16:18:21 | Schnueff | heh |
16:18:50 | kurzhaarrocker | And today my new Jukebox arrived -> I'm going rockbox again. |
16:19:37 | dwihno | what happened to the daily ucl's? :/ |
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16:33:38 | uski | hi all |
16:33:40 | uski | who was looking for a way to convert linear to logarithmic scale ? |
16:33:43 | uski | i have the formula |
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16:36:08 | uski | value in dB = 10log(I/I0) |
16:36:14 | uski | where I is the current output |
16:36:32 | uski | and I0 is the output power that corresponds to the lewest sound that can be heard by the hear |
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17:08:18 | kurzhaarrocker | Has anonymous cvs access improved within the last ~6 month? I' m impressed its working right away! |
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18:23:45 | earHertz | Anyone here know about plugins |
18:23:47 | earHertz | ? |
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19:14:03 | DJBaz | hi |
19:14:16 | DJBaz | does anyone know how to creat rvf's from avi's successfully? |
19:14:38 | earHertz | no, but it's been mentioned on the mailing list; look there |
19:15:14 | DJBaz | kk |
19:15:16 | DJBaz | thx |
19:25:13 | DJBaz | yay |
19:25:16 | DJBaz | works :) |
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20:09:43 | lini | hi guys |
20:11:10 | lini | just a quick q. I posted on the newsgroup but got no reply :(... How can I modify a rockbox font? |
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21:16:15 | Guest75620 | hi guys |
21:16:21 | Zagor | hi |
21:16:34 | Guest75620 | I made an util that with a simple doubleclick convert avi files in the new avf |
21:16:43 | Guest75620 | does anyone is interested in testing it ? |
21:16:47 | Guest75620 | only 700Kb |
21:17:14 | Zagor | "only"? |
21:17:37 | Guest75620 | it's a batch file that use virtualdub resizing capabilities |
21:17:59 | Guest75620 | now I am converting an entiere movei |
21:18:00 | Guest75620 | movie |
21:18:01 | Zagor | ok. i'd post a mail to the list. i don't run windows myself, so i can't test it. |
21:18:14 | Guest75620 | have I to send u the file ? |
21:18:30 | Zagor | no, i can't test it |
21:18:40 | Guest75620 | so what have I to do ? |
21:18:52 | Guest75620 | can I put it on my website and give u the link ? |
21:19:21 | Zagor | post a mail to the list, saying "hi, i've written this little tool <link>. have fun, comments appreciated." |
21:19:57 | Guest75620 | can I send a mail to the list without beeing registered to the list ? |
21:20:17 | Zagor | no, you must subscribe to it. you need to anyway, to see the comments... |
21:20:38 | Guest75620 | from that pc I cannot do anything |
21:20:42 | Guest75620 | I send u the link |
21:20:55 | Guest75620 | maybe if you want u can post it in the mailing list |
21:20:57 | Guest75620 | http://members.xoom.it/andrexy/Archos Converter Util.zip |
21:21:03 | Guest75620 | I am uploading it right now |
21:22:22 | Guest75620 | if anyone (windows user) would try it I will be glad ! |
21:24:10 | Guest75620 | I made possible to choose between 3 kind of encoding |
21:24:24 | Guest75620 | DEFAULT, STILL IMAGES and BRIGHT MOVIES |
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21:29:29 | Guest75620 | the link works now |
21:30:20 | Zagor | does the zip contain virtualdub? |
21:30:28 | Guest75620 | yes |
21:30:43 | Guest75620 | it shouldn't ? |
21:30:53 | Zagor | there's no problem with that |
21:31:43 | Guest75620 | the used software are virtuadub, choice (a dos program) and the converter utils released from the rockbox site |
21:32:51 | Guest75620 | all used in sequence with a batch script |
21:34:33 | Guest75620 | the only mandatory thing is that the movie file must be named MOVIE.AVI and must be placed in the script dir |
21:34:35 | Guest75620 | that's all |
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21:40:38 | earHertz | Zagor, is there a way to block waiting for a keypress, and read the key without xconsuming it (so that the next get_button_x call sees the key as if I'd not peeked at it)? |
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21:53:17 | Dogger | hey any coders in? |
21:53:25 | earHertz | sorta |
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21:54:51 | earHertz | Ask, I'll see if I know |
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22:00:09 | Dogger | am interested in serial update on archos mp3 players |
22:00:16 | Dogger | I'm lead developer on avos |
22:00:22 | Dogger | for the video machines... |
22:00:51 | Zagor | serial update? |
22:00:58 | Dogger | UART |
22:01:01 | Dogger | firmware update |
22:01:12 | Zagor | ah. yeah, that'd work. |
22:01:27 | Zagor | oh, you mean the uart mod. |
22:01:40 | Zagor | for reflashing boot rom? |
22:02:01 | Dogger | correct |
22:02:08 | Dogger | any idea of serial params etc? |
22:02:24 | Dogger | also, is it just uploaded 'as is', or is it unpacked? any header? |
22:02:30 | Zagor | i think jörg/dragon has documented that somewhere |
22:03:10 | Dogger | hmmm ok, |
22:03:19 | Dogger | I'm trying to work out the procedure on av300 |
22:03:24 | Dogger | am getting somewhere :) |
22:03:33 | Zagor | hehe |
22:06:07 | Zagor | i can't find his docs now :( |
22:06:23 | Dogger | :( |
22:06:29 | Dogger | need some help on this one |
22:06:39 | Dogger | at the moment, I try a serial update, and the unit powers down |
22:06:46 | Dogger | I guess I'm not doing it right |
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22:09:05 | Zagor | i would ask jörg. he has written pretty much the entire flash support, including the uart rescue stuff. |
22:09:14 | Dogger | sure, ok, |
22:11:08 | earHertz | Zagor, is there a way to block waiting for a keypress, and read the key without xconsuming it (so that the next get_button_x call sees the key as if I'd not peeked at it)? |
22:11:53 | Zagor | earHertz: no. reading a key means pulling it out of the queue. you can't just peek. |
22:12:12 | earHertz | ah, ok. I wrote me one. |
22:13:14 | earHertz | what thread does peakmeter run in? |
22:14:54 | Zagor | in the ui thread |
22:15:24 | earHertz | sorry, got confused |
22:15:53 | earHertz | You feel like adding the extended battery life by freezing the wps to the standard build? |
22:16:22 | Zagor | i haven't look at it yet |
22:17:25 | earHertz | I haven't submitted it yet. ;) It's pretty simple: the wps times out for lack of keypresses, and blocks waiting for the next key press |
22:17:43 | Zagor | oh :) |
22:18:27 | Zagor | i'd like some hard numbers on how much gain it gives before deciding about adding it |
22:18:35 | earHertz | it gives about 10-15% more battery life if you mostly don't touch the unit |
22:19:02 | earHertz | obviously, if you're pressing the keys alot, the savings is much less |
22:19:10 | Zagor | yeah |
22:19:36 | earHertz | But if it's in your pocket or neoprene case, who cares if the display updates. |
22:19:58 | earHertz | I've worked out the problem with resume data not being saved. |
22:20:57 | Zagor | what was it? |
22:21:57 | earHertz | The wps thread saves resume data everytime it updates the display. |
22:22:15 | Zagor | yes |
22:22:20 | earHertz | In my opinion, this is wasteful; even thought he writes are deferred, settings_save() does a alot of work |
22:22:51 | Zagor | some settings you want saved often. such as resume position and volume. |
22:23:03 | earHertz | The early complaint was, that when in my battery-save mode, the resume data wasn't being saved if the user left the wpd or shut down |
22:23:58 | earHertz | so, now, when the thread wakes because of the button press, the first thing we do is to save that data |
22:24:32 | earHertz | on an FMR, at least, this even works if the user goes for the hard-shutdown by holding sdown the off button; there's eniougjh time to save and write |
22:25:13 | Zagor | yeah, it's a good idea. we could do that in normal mode too. |
22:25:31 | earHertz | yes. |
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22:25:40 | * | Zagor wonders why the heck we are putting memset in iram. it makes no sense... |
22:25:48 | earHertz | unfortunaely, theh button reading code is rather, uh, lengthy |
22:26:01 | Zagor | ? |
22:26:11 | earHertz | It |
22:26:22 | earHertz | It's agreat big switch that goes on forever |
22:26:40 | Zagor | yeah |
22:27:14 | earHertz | but basically, key actions that wouldk have us leave the wps (or shutdown) should do the save for resume; key actions for volume should do that save |
22:27:55 | Zagor | all button presses can do it. they are rare enough to not warrant separating some out. |
22:28:07 | earHertz | Yeah, ok. |
22:28:22 | earHertz | But fast forward and rewind I'd leave out. |
22:28:33 | earHertz | Otherwise we save what we'll immediately change |
22:28:41 | Zagor | yeah, only down-press. not repeats. |
22:29:18 | earHertz | How do we distinguis those? |
22:29:27 | earHertz | without looking for key-up? |
22:29:33 | Zagor | repeat events have the BUTTON_REPEAT bit set |
22:30:04 | earHertz | ok |
22:31:23 | earHertz | the problem is this: some of the cases will take us out of the function with returns. |
22:31:45 | earHertz | But we don't want to save settings immediately on button recipt, as we want up and down to chnage volume, etc. |
22:32:01 | Zagor | true |
22:32:55 | earHertz | but idf after we get the button, we save for anything yhat leaves wps, we're good |
22:33:09 | Zagor | actually, it's only BUTTON_ON that does it. and that can be fixed by using a flag instead. |
22:33:21 | earHertz | UNLESS we get a power failure/auto-off |
22:33:41 | Zagor | ah, that's true. idle off is a tricky case... |
22:33:46 | earHertz | Well, button_off leaves wpd (of shutsdown). |
22:34:13 | earHertz | Well, no: idle off can do a save_settings before it goes off. I was talking about hardware failures |
22:34:25 | Zagor | yeah but the sleep timer just powers off without warning. |
22:34:49 | earHertz | oh. |
22:35:09 | Zagor | also, idle off is in the firmware layer while settings is in the apps layer |
22:35:35 | earHertz | so we et no warning from idle off? |
22:36:09 | earHertz | in that case, have mpeg thread save settings on each track change. It's more granular, but it's not terrible in the case of idle off. |
22:37:00 | Zagor | idle is not really a problem, since nothing will change while you are idle (so the state for the last keypress is still valid). sleep is worse, since playback is going on right up until will power off. |
22:37:20 | Zagor | mpeg is also in firmware. firmware can't call apps code. |
22:37:34 | earHertz | it can't??? |
22:37:51 | Zagor | no. firmware is the lower layer. calls can only go down. |
22:38:07 | earHertz | but app code can call firmware? So make settings_save a part of firmware |
22:38:26 | Zagor | we don't want settings as part of the firmware. it's application code... |
22:39:03 | Zagor | there are more elegant solutions. we could, for instance, send a poweroff event to the button queue 5sec before it powers off or something |
22:39:27 | earHertz | Sounds good |
22:40:24 | earHertz | then we need save settings only on buuton_on, button_off and button_poweroff |
22:41:20 | earHertz | I've more the saving stuff out of display update to its own function. |
22:43:15 | Zagor | there's another problem: players want to flush settings to disk whenever they spin the disk. if we have not called save_settings(), that will not happen. |
22:44:11 | earHertz | Why's it matter? as long as we save the real data on leaving wps or power off, the result's the same except in cases of hardware power failure |
22:44:41 | Zagor | well we don't have time to save the real data on players. they shut off before the disk has a chance to spin up. |
22:45:42 | earHertz | hmm. |
22:46:09 | earHertz | and it's a hrdware-off button? |
22:46:27 | Zagor | yes |
22:47:19 | earHertz | crap |
22:47:52 | Zagor | why are you chasing this code so hard, by the way? |
22:48:12 | earHertz | I'm not, I don't think. |
22:48:33 | Zagor | ok |
22:48:34 | earHertz | In fact, since my Archos wasn't working, I let it sit. |
22:49:04 | earHertz | But rtecently I've been getting email or seeing posts on the list, asking why no one's seen it 4 three months after I started testin git |
22:49:24 | Zagor | no i mean the settings code |
22:49:30 | earHertz | Oh, that. |
22:49:49 | earHertz | I don't like calculating all the settings for save a few. |
22:49:57 | earHertz | It just seems wasteful. |
22:50:58 | earHertz | THe battery-saving bit is useful, as it seems to add a hour or more to battery life. |
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22:54:14 | Zagor | yeah. i'm not sure i agree with you about the settings though. it's just 40 byte writes and three string copys. very little calculation. |
22:55:15 | earHertz | Um, it does a lot of bit masking and shifting too, last I looked. Has it chnaged recently? |
22:55:17 | Zagor | sure, all code ran without needed is wasteful. but i don't see this being a particulary bad piece. |
22:55:54 | Zagor | yes for some settings but that's light stuff too |
22:56:22 | earHertz | well, sure. |
22:56:34 | Zagor | but if you find an elegant solution, i will not refuse it :) |
22:57:19 | earHertz | I tried a version of power save that froze the display but keep saving the resume data |
22:57:47 | earHertz | it gave me only and 5% additional battery life. Doing both freeze and no saving gives over 10% |
22:58:19 | Zagor | odd |
22:59:24 | Zagor | the settings code is probably less than 500 cycles. doing that ever 2 seconds or whatever shouldn't make such a difference. |
22:59:47 | earHertz | it's MUCH more often than every two seconds. |
22:59:57 | earHertz | unless you're talking about teh deferred disk write |
22:59:58 | Zagor | how often? |
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23:00:10 | Zagor | settings_save |
23:00:12 | earHertz | everytime the screen is updated |
23:00:39 | Zagor | !? ok *that* sucks, i agree completely |
23:00:47 | earHertz | hz/5, which is 5 times a second, yes? |
23:00:53 | Zagor | yes |
23:01:13 | earHertz | see, those bit twiddles add up |
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23:03:26 | earHertz | here's some comparisons: http://www.diffenbach.org/rockbox/ebl_test/results/ebl_results.html |
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23:05:01 | Zagor | i don't see how it's saving for every wps_refresh(). where is that code? |
23:06:52 | earHertz | static bool update at wps.c:427 |
23:07:22 | earHertz | lines 460 or 466 |
23:07:50 | earHertz | basically, it's tied to the id3->offset value |
23:08:28 | Zagor | ah, right. that is only updated ever dma tick, which is <2 Hz |
23:09:18 | Zagor | maybe we should add another check, to not save more than every 4 seconds or something |
23:09:39 | earHertz | well, to be honest, when I first started coding I didn't understand why my settings were;nt being saved. |
23:09:54 | Zagor | :-) |
23:10:01 | earHertz | So I added a splash to settings save, and was shocked to see it going off continuously |
23:10:30 | earHertz | Did you look at that second graph? |
23:11:09 | Zagor | second? |
23:11:24 | earHertz | http://www.diffenbach.org/rockbox/ebl_test/results/192-Recorder.html |
23:11:31 | Zagor | yeah |
23:11:50 | earHertz | Test A is freexing the wpd and not ssaving settings |
23:12:49 | earHertz | Test B is freezing display but allowing the thread to keep looping and saving settings. B also supresses update of the powermeter, in case you wonder if that explains the difference |
23:13:00 | Zagor | yeah, i guessed |
23:13:38 | earHertz | Now, if you're correct about the offset, B is "only" saving every 2 seconds. |
23:13:51 | Zagor | no, 2 Hz |
23:14:01 | Zagor | roughly. it depends on the bitrate. |
23:14:10 | earHertz | But that still reduces the benefit of disoplay frezzing from 13% to 5% |
23:14:22 | earHertz | um, the chart you're looking at is 192 CBR |
23:14:42 | Zagor | yes. but i don't remember the exact dma tick rate for each bitrate |
23:14:55 | earHertz | ;) |
23:15:55 | Zagor | are those graphs from one or from repeated tests? the low voltage of test A from 60-240 minutes looks strange. |
23:16:26 | earHertz | It's from single tests |
23:18:18 | earHertz | But the data points are the average of the middle four of six readings (we throw out the highest and lowest) taken 10 seconds apart every, with a new smaple set taken every five minutes |
23:19:54 | Zagor | have you tried measuring the current draw with the different tests? |
23:20:30 | Zagor | a 10% gain ought to be be quite clearly visible there |
23:21:08 | earHertz | What do you mean by current draw? |
23:21:37 | Zagor | how many milliamperes are drawn from the batteries |
23:22:08 | earHertz | I don't know how to do that |
23:22:23 | Zagor | do you have a multimeter? |
23:22:45 | earHertz | Uh, yeah, but it's the wrong sort for teh Archos, or so somebody on the list said. |
23:22:52 | earHertz | And uh, I've never uswed one. |
23:23:54 | earHertz | Of coure, if /you/ have a multimeter, you're swelcome to download the .ajzs used for these tests. |
23:24:01 | Zagor | ok, no worries. the idea is that you put the multimeter in the circuit, so all electricity passes through it. then you can measure how much is used. |
23:24:13 | Zagor | yeah, it would be interesting. |
23:25:29 | Zagor | where can i find them? |
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23:26:37 | earHertz | http://www.diffenbach.org/rockbox/battery-patch-test-plan.html |
23:26:49 | earHertz | sorry, took me a second to look that up |
23:27:49 | earHertz | Oh, I forgot, we did do five runs to get the three sets of test data |
23:28:18 | earHertz | Do note that running these builds will change your settings; that so everybody was testing on the same settings |
23:28:19 | Zagor | ok. then the low voltage is even more strange. |
23:28:53 | Zagor | actually, i'll try first just measuring the difference when entering a quicksreen compared to a busy wps |
23:29:46 | earHertz | actually, that's how I first tumbled to this |
23:31:14 | earHertz | Oh, I just looked at the raw data. |
23:31:28 | earHertz | This was why I didn't tell anyone about the results |
23:31:59 | earHertz | The reason test a starts lower is that he wasn't charged up as much for Test as as ofr the otehr two. |
23:33:18 | earHertz | The data on the chart is massaged: I found the first place that all three had similar volatages, and used that as the "real" starting point. |
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23:34:06 | Guest75620 | I just encoded 61 minutes of a movie (2nd half time of "Willow") |
23:34:25 | Guest75620 | It took 30mins to complete the entiere process with a P4 2500 |
23:34:30 | Guest75620 | The quality is EXCELLENT ! |
23:35:01 | earHertz | where's idc's original movie? |
23:35:05 | Zagor | how big is the file? |
23:35:52 | Guest75620 | 650Mb of DivX files -> 2Gb of non-compressed AVI -> 900Mb of resized (112x64) avi -> 192Mb of FINAL .rvf !!! |
23:35:57 | Zagor | earHertz: http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/ |
23:36:11 | Guest75620 | The movie looks GREAT ! |
23:36:12 | earHertz | thanks. |
23:36:32 | Zagor | Guest75620: can you cut out a minute or two and upload somewhere for us to see? |
23:36:40 | earHertz | Do you want the raw data for the battery tests? |
23:36:42 | lini | sorry to interrupt but how about sound? |
23:36:49 | Zagor | lini: not yet |
23:36:56 | Guest75620 | if u want I can take some pics of it running ! The only "bad" thing (if u can call it bad) it's the missing of a fast forward option ;) |
23:37:06 | Zagor | earHertz: no thanks. i'll start with the mA test. |
23:37:26 | lini | i mean can i strip the audio from the avi and try to sync with the movie |
23:37:27 | Guest75620 | zagor how can I cut 1 or 2 mins ? |
23:37:27 | Zagor | Guest75620: just the first 2MB of raw data would be great, if you can do it |
23:37:40 | Guest75620 | u mean from the original avi or directly cut the rvf ? |
23:37:48 | Zagor | well in linux you'd just use the 'dd' command. in windows, i don't know... |
23:37:48 | earHertz | That will be interesting |
23:37:54 | Zagor | Guest75620: cut the rvf |
23:39:16 | Guest75620 | zagor I will reencode the first 2min of the movie |
23:39:29 | Guest75620 | I deleted the rvf to ulpoad it to my unit |
23:39:29 | Zagor | ok |
23:39:36 | Guest75620 | hold on for a while |
23:39:45 | Guest75620 | (I am the same who made the conversion script) |
23:39:49 | Guest75620 | remeber ? |
23:42:01 | earHertz | the resolution's great, but it's blurry |
23:42:20 | Zagor | Guest75620: yes, i remember |
23:42:44 | earHertz | he's faking the resolution, right? |
23:42:53 | Zagor | faking? |
23:43:36 | earHertz | Is the resolutiion of the lcd as high as it looks on the movie? |
23:43:52 | Guest75620 | the movie looks INCREDIBLE great ! |
23:44:01 | Guest75620 | Obviously consider the limitation of the hardware |
23:44:33 | Zagor | earHertz: well moving images always create the impression of high resolution. |
23:44:51 | Zagor | after all, ordinary tv is just 320x511 or something like that |
23:44:57 | earHertz | so it's fake? |
23:45:03 | Zagor | define fake |
23:45:27 | Zagor | the image isn't really moving either. it's just many images displaed consecutively. is that fake too? :) |
23:46:13 | earHertz | wel, yes. |
23:46:16 | earHertz | ;) |
23:46:21 | Zagor | (correction, PAL is apparently 720x576. but my point still stands) |
23:47:00 | Zagor | earHertz: then it's fake :) |
23:47:38 | earHertz | what's the lcd resolution? |
23:47:53 | Zagor | 112x64 |
23:48:17 | Guest75620 | 2mins = 65Mb of non compressed .avi file -> 31Mb .yuv file -> 6Mb .rvf |
23:48:32 | Guest75620 | can i send it to you zagor ? |
23:48:53 | earHertz | and he's essentially flickering the pixels to simulate grayscale? |
23:48:56 | Guest75620 | 1:10 |
23:49:04 | Guest75620 | yes it is i suppose |
23:49:16 | Zagor | earHertz: yes |
23:49:30 | earHertz | That IDC dragon is very very clever |
23:49:35 | Zagor | Guest75620: umm, try. i think I need to open up dcc through my firewall. |
23:50:18 | earHertz | Oh, Zagor, thee's a 32KB area reserved for plugins, right? |
23:50:20 | Guest75620 | sending... |
23:50:35 | Guest75620 | Got it |
23:50:41 | Zagor | earHertz: yes |
23:50:48 | Zagor | Guest75620: umm, are you on modem? |
23:51:00 | earHertz | Does the plugin buffer come out of that same 32KB space? |
23:51:02 | Guest75620 | no, I am on adsl but it's in HEAVY download state |
23:51:09 | Zagor | earHertz: yes |
23:51:10 | Guest75620 | 20mins of transfer time |
23:51:18 | Zagor | Guest75620: ok |
23:51:40 | earHertz | So a plugin gets 32KB total, of code, globals, and buffere? |
23:51:45 | Guest75620 | Anyway I got a problem with a specific kind of AVI files, the ones produced with my digicam |
23:52:03 | Guest75620 | The resize operation give error on frame 16 |
23:52:20 | Guest75620 | And if you start form frame 17 it gives error on frame 33 |
23:52:34 | Guest75620 | I know it's not a rockbox problem but i cannot figure out why |
23:52:59 | Guest75620 | Another thing: the .ucl player in the yesterday build of rockbox was broken in some way |
23:53:14 | Zagor | ucl player? |
23:53:40 | Guest75620 | The plugin which makes the .ucl flashing |
23:53:51 | earHertz | the ucl player in today's daily works. I just used it. |
23:53:53 | Zagor | what was the problem? what model do you have? |
23:54:10 | Guest75620 | I explained all the problem yesterday here in that channel |
23:54:17 | Guest75620 | anyway "incompatible version" show up |
23:54:18 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
23:54:39 | Guest75620 | using an old plugin (the update to the Flash-edition release) wworks ok |
23:54:41 | Zagor | ok. well if it works today i won't bother searching for it :) |
23:54:51 | Guest75620 | dunno if it works |
23:54:53 | Guest75620 | i haven't try it |
23:55:09 | Guest75620 | spent half of this morning coding the script to convert to rvf |
23:55:26 | Guest75620 | the sedcond half + all evening to recovr my died car |
23:56:12 | Guest75620 | I have a V2 software (no boot) and V1 hardware version |
23:57:24 | Guest75620 | Zagor is there a way to play an mp3 while watching a rvf ? |
23:57:36 | Guest75620 | will be synchronizing problems ? |
23:57:44 | Zagor | yes, you can start the mp3 first and then play the rvf. but you can't sync it. |
23:57:55 | Guest75620 | why can't sync ? |
23:58:05 | Guest75620 | the speed of the movie SEEMs similar to real |
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