| 00:08:21 | midknight2k3 | sd |
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| 00:10:23 | Sebulba02 | Hmm. |
| 00:10:31 | midknight2k3 | DFF |
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| 00:12:01 | Sebulba02 | DFF? |
| 00:12:19 | midknight2k3 | SDD YOU ASDF |
| 00:14:51 | Sebulba02 | Um, whatever. |
| 00:14:59 | midknight2k3 | wheres zagor!! |
| 00:18:54 | * | Sebulba02 shrugs |
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| 00:21:48 | earHertz | who am here? |
| 00:21:53 | midknight2k3 | eary |
| 00:21:55 | midknight2k3 | zagoor |
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| 00:21:58 | midknight2k3 | zagor |
| 00:22:10 | midknight2k3 | would it be worth it to code a new id3 viewer? |
| 00:22:14 | earHertz | Zagor, you here? |
| 00:22:17 | Sebulba02 | I'm never here. |
| 00:22:19 | midknight2k3 | he should be |
| 00:22:19 | Zagor | earHertz: yes |
| 00:22:27 | Zagor | midknight2k3: it depends what you plan to do with it |
| 00:22:29 | earHertz | Zagor, mind if I pm you? |
| 00:22:41 | midknight2k3 | zagor: more info per page, a bit more user friendly? |
| 00:22:44 | Zagor | earHertz: ok |
| 00:23:22 | midknight2k3 | zagor: sdd? |
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| 00:25:37 | Zagor | midknight2k3: only write code that you want to use yourself. |
| 00:25:53 | * | midknight2k3 's finger falls |
| 00:29:21 | midknight2k3 | zagor, is there anything that needs to be done? on the wishlist perhaps? |
| 00:29:23 | midknight2k3 | i want to code |
| 00:29:50 | Zagor | the wishlist is very long. browse it and write whatever tickles your fancy |
| 00:30:05 | midknight2k3 | feature requests? any particular ones? |
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| 00:31:46 | Zagor | i don't have any personal favorites. as I said, you should write code that wou want to use yourself. |
| 00:32:42 | midknight2k3 | as in, i thought somehwere you said that feel free to write patches from the list of requsts? |
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| 00:33:50 | Zagor | yes. but code generally get written better when there is an element of personal passion. "scratch your own itch" and all that. |
| 00:34:42 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
| 00:34:46 | midknight2k3 | ok well i'll have a look |
| 00:36:50 | midknight2k3 | btw there is a fatal error in the video plugin |
| 00:37:07 | midknight2k3 | if you play it without selecting a file it says "play .rfv file" and not ".rvf" |
| 00:37:14 | midknight2k3 | rvf, not rfv |
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| 00:58:17 | midknight2k3 | ok well i think ill test my C skills at a new id3 viewer |
| 01:00 |
| 01:01:22 | Zagor | ok. have fun! |
| 01:01:34 | midknight2k3 | :) i hope to |
| 01:04:13 | midknight2k3 | polski-ascii? |
| 01:04:15 | midknight2k3 | err |
| 01:04:23 | midknight2k3 | ill hafta try that one out |
| 01:04:41 | midknight2k3 | its not ascii |
| 01:05:40 | midknight2k3 | you liars :) |
| 01:07:47 | Hadaka | hmmh, I wonder if I should implement a new playmode for rockbox |
| 01:07:54 | midknight2k3 | ooh which |
| 01:07:58 | midknight2k3 | i have a few ideas |
| 01:08:13 | Zagor | midknight2k3: it is ascii |
| 01:08:24 | Hadaka | well, in the end, I ended up going for 'almost random' play |
| 01:08:40 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 01:08:43 | midknight2k3 | thats what we need |
| 01:08:50 | midknight2k3 | "shuffle" in addition to "random" |
| 01:08:55 | midknight2k3 | random is totally random |
| 01:09:22 | midknight2k3 | (should be totally random) |
| 01:09:27 | midknight2k3 | possible? |
| 01:09:33 | Hadaka | well, totally random is bad - it should be hardcoded to something a bit less, or configurable |
| 01:09:37 | Zagor | why would anyone want random? |
| 01:09:43 | midknight2k3 | random play |
| 01:09:48 | midknight2k3 | reshuffle when playlist repeats |
| 01:09:50 | midknight2k3 | AKA track |
| 01:09:57 | Zagor | that's not random |
| 01:09:57 | midknight2k3 | it would be a nice option |
| 01:10:06 | midknight2k3 | well it'd be nice |
| 01:10:08 | Hadaka | I wonder if midknight2k3 is talking about different options |
| 01:10:11 | midknight2k3 | use the current_time for the seed |
| 01:10:12 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 01:10:13 | midknight2k3 | different |
| 01:10:15 | midknight2k3 | thats what i mean |
| 01:10:18 | Hadaka | oof |
| 01:10:21 | Hadaka | and yet another? |
| 01:10:23 | midknight2k3 | a random mode and a shuffe mode |
| 01:10:32 | midknight2k3 | shuffle as current pseudo random |
| 01:10:38 | midknight2k3 | random as in real random |
| 01:10:48 | Hadaka | but what does random have to do with reshuffling? |
| 01:10:49 | Zagor | midknight2k3: are you talking about random, really, or just reshuffle at end of playlist? |
| 01:11:09 | midknight2k3 | real random, and also wouldnt that work for reshuffle when playlist repeats? |
| 01:11:20 | Hadaka | different things |
| 01:11:24 | Hadaka | anyhow |
| 01:11:28 | Zagor | the only difference between random and shuffle is that shuffle makes sure you never hear the same track twice. i don't see why anyone would think that is bad. |
| 01:11:40 | Hadaka | Zagor: not true |
| 01:11:44 | midknight2k3 | shuffle keeps it the same way |
| 01:11:52 | midknight2k3 | say your have 1-5 in your playlist |
| 01:11:54 | Zagor | Hadaka: explain |
| 01:11:57 | Hadaka | Zagor: with shuffle play, you hear every track once before hearing any track for the second time |
| 01:12:04 | midknight2k3 | it could do 1, 4, 3, 5, 2 |
| 01:12:09 | midknight2k3 | then over and over again |
| 01:12:11 | midknight2k3 | IN THAT ORDER |
| 01:12:12 | Hadaka | Zagor: with random, you might hear some track more often and some track less |
| 01:12:21 | Zagor | Hadaka: that's what i was trying to say |
| 01:12:27 | midknight2k3 | i'm talking about totally random, no way to tell whats nect |
| 01:12:29 | midknight2k3 | next* |
| 01:12:44 | midknight2k3 | it could do 1, 4, 3, 5, 2 |
| 01:12:46 | midknight2k3 | then 1, 4, 3, 5, 2 |
| 01:12:47 | Zagor | midknight2k3: no, you're simply talking about reshuffle at end of list |
| 01:12:48 | midknight2k3 | and over |
| 01:12:53 | Hadaka | Zagor: but being more random doesn't necessarily mean hearing the same track again |
| 01:12:57 | midknight2k3 | doesnt it play in the same order? |
| 01:13:04 | Hadaka | midknight2k3: random would be for example: |
| 01:13:04 | midknight2k3 | your current mode? |
| 01:13:12 | midknight2k3 | 1, 4, 3, 5, 2, 1, 4, 3, 5, 2, 1, 4, 3, 5, 2... ? |
| 01:13:15 | Hadaka | 1, 4, 4, 4, 3, 3, 1, 5, 1, 5, 1, 5 |
| 01:13:15 | Zagor | Hadaka: it means there's a chance it will happen |
| 01:13:31 | Zagor | which it won't with shuffle |
| 01:13:34 | midknight2k3 | zagor: but with current options i think it'd just keep looping the playlist shuffled |
| 01:13:41 | Zagor | and that's the only difference |
| 01:13:47 | midknight2k3 | it shuffles it into a fake playlist, then loops that one |
| 01:13:47 | Hadaka | Zagor: not if we make sure in the random that it won't pick the just played one - and possibly less chance to pick tracks more recently played |
| 01:13:51 | midknight2k3 | am i correct? |
| 01:13:58 | Hadaka | Zagor: not the only difference! |
| 01:14:05 | Zagor | midknight2k3: yes. we know you want to reshuffle the list. just don't call it random! |
| 01:14:13 | midknight2k3 | but why not? |
| 01:14:15 | Zagor | Hadaka: then you need to explain it to me better :) |
| 01:14:18 | Hadaka | midknight2k3: because it's not |
| 01:14:23 | midknight2k3 | random would be good |
| 01:14:24 | Hadaka | I'll give an example |
| 01:14:25 | Zagor | midknight2k3: because it's just reshuffle. it's not random. |
| 01:14:38 | midknight2k3 | i... uh.... |
| 01:14:50 | Hadaka | let's see only four track playlist - with shuffle, it could be: |
| 01:14:59 | midknight2k3 | wouldn't random ALSO reshuffle when playlist repeats? as in constantly shuffling |
| 01:15:10 | midknight2k3 | fixes the request and keeps it totally unknown |
| 01:15:12 | Hadaka | well, example is silly |
| 01:15:14 | Zagor | midknight2k3: random has no shuffle |
| 01:15:19 | Hadaka | but let's assume the four track playlist still |
| 01:15:24 | midknight2k3 | random has no shuffle? |
| 01:15:32 | Hadaka | with random that never plays two songs in a row, you could have: |
| 01:15:32 | midknight2k3 | whats that supposed to mean?!? :-) |
| 01:15:38 | Zagor | midknight2k3: you *either* have random *or* shuffle. not both. |
| 01:15:42 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 01:15:45 | midknight2k3 | so shuffle, or random |
| 01:15:48 | Hadaka | 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 2 4 2 3 4 |
| 01:15:56 | Hadaka | where as not even reshuffling can make that happen |
| 01:16:07 | Hadaka | since with shuffling, you can't hear the same song more than once per size of playlist |
| 01:16:09 | midknight2k3 | i'm not following you |
| 01:16:15 | Zagor | Hadaka: right. and why does anyone want that? |
| 01:16:23 | midknight2k3 | but with shuffling, it plays in the same order over and over |
| 01:16:30 | midknight2k3 | sort of a, con |
| 01:16:35 | Zagor | midknight2k3: no. just if you don't reshuffle at the end of the list. |
| 01:16:48 | midknight2k3 | i thought it picked a seed and kept it |
| 01:16:59 | midknight2k3 | ok then, how about reshuffle at playlist end |
| 01:17:10 | Zagor | midknight2k3: yes, that's a feature request |
| 01:17:13 | Hadaka | Zagor: with a longer playlist that loops it's nicer if it's not fixed to the shuffle marks that keeps the songs that far away from each other |
| 01:18:01 | Zagor | Hadaka: why do you want to hear the same song more than once in a playlist loop? isn't diversity the whole point of random play? |
| 01:18:09 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 01:18:14 | midknight2k3 | its ok if you hear it more than once |
| 01:18:15 | midknight2k3 | thats good |
| 01:18:18 | midknight2k3 | but just not over and over |
| 01:19:04 | Zagor | i disagree, but if anybody wants random it's very very simple to do. |
| 01:19:06 | Hadaka | Zagor: diversity is achieved also by playing the songs in order - with random, I want fuzziness into it so I at times I might hear some songs more than others |
| 01:19:30 | Hadaka | well, there's more than one problem with it, but it's rather trivial |
| 01:19:49 | midknight2k3 | very very simple? why doesnt it exist then? :D |
| 01:20:12 | Zagor | midknight2k3: because this is the first time i hear anyone saying they want to hear the same song twice :) |
| 01:20:18 | Hadaka | it will need a new random number generator, since this one stores more than 32 bits of state |
| 01:20:24 | midknight2k3 | lol zagor |
| 01:20:29 | Zagor | we usually get bug reports when people think that happens... |
| 01:20:30 | Hadaka | Zagor: I might mention that I never said I want to hear the same song twice :) |
| 01:20:36 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 01:20:45 | midknight2k3 | with random, I want fuzziness into it so I at times I might hear some songs more than others |
| 01:20:50 | midknight2k3 | ^^ hadaka |
| 01:21:13 | Hadaka | midknight2k3: exactly - doesn't mean the same song twice in a row |
| 01:21:15 | Zagor | Hadaka: let me rephrase: "twice during a single playlist" |
| 01:21:20 | midknight2k3 | not in a row, no |
| 01:21:22 | Hadaka | Zagor: thanks :) |
| 01:21:27 | midknight2k3 | hadaka, zagor, whoever |
| 01:21:39 | midknight2k3 | just ensure that the same song isnt played twice in a row |
| 01:21:44 | midknight2k3 | rather simple to do? |
| 01:21:48 | midknight2k3 | then otherwise make it random |
| 01:22:30 | Hadaka | well, perhaps make it so that the last played song has 0% chance, and the few recently played songs have lesser chance than other songs |
| 01:22:41 | midknight2k3 | thats good! |
| 01:22:46 | Zagor | i still don't get the point of it. i hate devices that use that type of random. |
| 01:22:53 | midknight2k3 | well |
| 01:22:57 | midknight2k3 | it will be an option |
| 01:23:04 | midknight2k3 | COULD be* |
| 01:23:08 | midknight2k3 | random or shuffle |
| 01:23:35 | Zagor | the only time it'd be nice is if each and every single track has a probability rating, which is completely unworkable. |
| 01:23:56 | Hadaka | well, either that, or reshuffle at end of playlist is necessary in any case |
| 01:24:05 | midknight2k3 | reshuffle at end at least |
| 01:24:07 | Zagor | i agree reshuffle is needed |
| 01:24:11 | midknight2k3 | thatd do it |
| 01:24:42 | Hadaka | well, reshuffle has it's problems as well |
| 01:25:38 | Hadaka | atleast the playing same song twice in a row problem |
| 01:25:47 | midknight2k3 | oh? |
| 01:25:58 | Zagor | yup. we either have to accept that, or never move the order of the first song. |
| 01:26:20 | Hadaka | to which the dumb problem would be to just reshuffle again when that happens - but it's a bit bothersome to do that on a 3k song playlist |
| 01:26:35 | Hadaka | Zagor: but how do you resume a playlist that has been shuffled without changing the order of the first song |
| 01:26:39 | earHertz | Not if you reshuffle pointers. |
| 01:26:56 | Zagor | Hadaka: good point |
| 01:27:04 | Hadaka | but there are alternatives to that |
| 01:27:33 | midknight2k3 | build/linkage.lds:69: parse error |
| 01:27:36 | midknight2k3 | is that my fault? |
| 01:28:09 | Zagor | probably :) |
| 01:28:23 | midknight2k3 | it doesnt appear to be |
| 01:28:34 | earHertz | It's the Mormons' fault. (pun on LDS). |
| 01:28:52 | midknight2k3 | "L" "O" "L" |
| 01:29:59 | earHertz | Here'a funny spam I got. I guess the spammers don't pay their programmers enough" To: RAND_NUM_1@diffenbach.org |
| 01:30:21 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:32:04 | midknight2k3 | zagor |
| 01:32:06 | midknight2k3 | its not building |
| 01:32:10 | midknight2k3 | original error |
| 01:32:20 | midknight2k3 | cpp0: warning: is shorter than expected |
| 01:32:20 | midknight2k3 | <stdin>:190:2: #endif without #if |
| 01:32:20 | midknight2k3 | make[1]: *** [/home/rockbox/newpatch/build/linkage.lds] Error 1 |
| 01:32:34 | earHertz | midknight2k3, go for brought force. Delete *.o and re-compile |
| 01:32:48 | midknight2k3 | brute force, ya mean? |
| 01:32:52 | midknight2k3 | O(H I KNOW WHAT I CAN DO |
| 01:32:56 | midknight2k3 | ILL UPDATE MY CLOCK |
| 01:33:00 | earHertz | uh, teah. I'm a bad typist |
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| 01:33:02 | midknight2k3 | uh huh, oh yeah, i got the best idea |
| 01:33:13 | midknight2k3 | diddystar5 |
| 01:35:13 | Hadaka | Zagor: if you think about reshuffling - then the only thing shuffling has is that a song cannot be heard three times inside playlist size songs - but it can be heard two times - and that songs are _atmost_ apart the size of two playlists and _atleast_ only one song - which, if compared to a random that balances recently heard songs less - isn't any different except that the probabilities even out faster than in random |
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| 01:37:52 | Zagor | Hadaka: it can't be heard two times |
| 01:38:04 | Zagor | ah, you mean reshuffle. i get it. |
| 01:38:08 | Zagor | hi linus |
| 01:38:10 | Hadaka | Zagor: indeed, reshuffling |
| 01:38:40 | midknight2k3 | backy |
| 01:38:42 | diddystar5 | thats sounds neat and simple |
| 01:38:42 | Zagor | i still don't get why you *want* random |
| 01:38:43 | midknight2k3 | linusy |
| 01:38:44 | midknight2k3 | hi |
| 01:38:53 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:39:39 | LinusN | hi |
| 01:40:33 | earHertz | Hey Linus, how much free time do you have these days? |
| 01:40:46 | midknight2k3 | little, i'd guess |
| 01:41:58 | earHertz | Hadaka wants playlist morphing, I think. random is a way to get halfway there. Yes? No? |
| 01:42:13 | midknight2k3 | that was MY IDEA |
| 01:42:14 | LinusN | earHertz: practically none |
| 01:42:26 | earHertz | Darn. |
| 01:42:36 | LinusN | earHertz: anything special in mind? |
| 01:43:12 | Hadaka | earHertz: playlist morphing is again one way to do it - but getting that so that the transformation is continuable - and storable in 32 bits - is a bit difficult |
| 01:43:26 | Hadaka | though probably not impossible |
| 01:45:25 | earHertz | Hadaka, if you have the time and it doesn't bother you to do so, explain to me agina why the first song can't be moved? I'm afraid it's fallen out of my head. |
| 01:46:13 | Hadaka | earHertz: erm... the problem was that we didn't want the same song playing twice - and making that happen so it's resumable is the thing to be solved |
| 01:46:27 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 01:46:37 | diddystar5 | "Fallen out of my head" |
| 01:46:43 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:49:50 | earHertz | When you're my age..... ;) |
| 01:50:04 | midknight2k3 | sdd you asdf |
| 01:50:32 | diddystar5 | things just tend to "fall out your head"? |
| 01:50:43 | earHertz | and we use the first somg as the starting index, and the seed to get the list of random numbers specifying the further somgs, right? |
| 01:50:59 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 01:50:59 | diddystar5 | ssdssd |
| 01:51:08 | earHertz | Kid, I say, kid, I've forgotten more shit than you evah learnt! ;) |
| 01:51:22 | earHertz | what's "ssd" anyway? |
| 01:51:27 | midknight2k3 | its SDD! |
| 01:54:23 | diddystar5 | sdd |
| 01:55:16 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:56:06 | LinusN | earHertz: you wanted some help from me? |
| 01:56:26 | earHertz | Um, yeah. |
| 01:56:38 | earHertz | can I pm you? |
| 01:58:00 | midknight2k3 | &ROCKbox! |
| 01:58:49 | midknight2k3 | LinusN: can we have a link at the top of the "new" patches page to load the old one? |
| 01:59:35 | Zagor | midknight2k3: why? |
| 01:59:40 | midknight2k3 | dont like the new one |
| 01:59:45 | midknight2k3 | not usually at least |
| 01:59:49 | midknight2k3 | hard to see whats new and whats not |
| 01:59:53 | Zagor | too organized? :) |
| 01:59:56 | midknight2k3 | simple the old way |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:00 | midknight2k3 | RIGHT ON! :) |
| 02:00:12 | Zagor | they are sorted in date order |
| 02:00:15 | midknight2k3 | yeah, the old way it was just "patches" then "end" |
| 02:00:16 | midknight2k3 | sure |
| 02:00:22 | midknight2k3 | but then you go category to category |
| 02:00:30 | midknight2k3 | hmm, whats the date again? did i see this yet? |
| 02:00:41 | midknight2k3 | simple to hit END and see of theres anything new |
| 02:04:47 | midknight2k3 | are you going to fix it? |
| 02:10:43 | midknight2k3 | i cant wait to see clock make it in if it makes it in |
| 02:11:24 | midknight2k3 | i have a great idea guys |
| 02:11:26 | midknight2k3 | listen up |
| 02:11:35 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 02:12:06 | midknight2k3 | how about a template for each model (in the checkout) like "buildrec" and "buildfm" and "buildplayer" with a makefile all set up and ready to build? |
| 02:12:15 | midknight2k3 | checked out like other things |
| 02:15:57 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
| 02:16:02 | midknight2k3 | i should add Zagor to my redlist |
| 02:16:42 | midknight2k3 | now linus and zagor are on my redlist |
| 02:16:43 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 02:17:45 | LinusN | now, what is a redlist? |
| 02:19:09 | midknight2k3 | wit |
| 02:20:30 | scott666 | wit? |
| 02:20:46 | midknight2k3 | wait* |
| 02:20:53 | midknight2k3 | bluelist = friends |
| 02:20:56 | midknight2k3 | redlist = devs |
| 02:21:02 | midknight2k3 | sdd indeed |
| 02:21:32 | LinusN | so the devs are not your friends? :-) |
| 02:21:52 | midknight2k3 | it cant be red and blue |
| 02:21:57 | scott666 | wasn't that obvious? |
| 02:22:04 | midknight2k3 | linus brought it up |
| 02:22:05 | midknight2k3 | not i |
| 02:22:39 | scott666 | i meant that the devs weren't your friends |
| 02:22:46 | LinusN | haha |
| 02:22:55 | midknight2k3 | oh lol |
| 02:25:27 | * | scott666 notices that the mouse has been plugged in the whole time he was fiddeling with it |
| 02:25:49 | scott666 | oops... |
| 02:36:13 | earHertz | You keep fiddling with your "mouse" you'll go blind |
| 02:37:05 | scott666 | quiet you |
| 02:37:39 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 02:37:39 | scott666 | damn this infernal usb cable! |
| 02:37:55 | midknight2k3 | just get a new one! |
| 02:38:18 | scott666 | 1. i dont have money |
| 02:38:25 | scott666 | 2. i dont have a car to get a new one |
| 02:39:41 | LinusN | i can't remember needing a car to buy a cable :-) |
| 02:40:05 | LinusN | oh, you live in us? |
| 02:40:13 | scott666 | 3. i dont have a credit card to buy one online |
| 02:40:15 | scott666 | yeah |
| 02:40:29 | scott666 | i suppose i COULD walk, but its cold out |
| 02:40:55 | midknight2k3 | psh |
| 02:41:04 | diddystar5 | lazy... |
| 02:41:08 | diddystar5 | j/k |
| 02:41:37 | scott666 | Minneapolis, MN as of 12/19/2003 6:20 PM: 18º |
| 02:42:17 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 02:44:13 | scott666 | there was a point where the end of this paper clip seemed small... |
| 02:44:14 | | Join top_bloke [0] (jibkjl@dsc02-chc-il-199-35-153-96.rasserver.net) |
| 02:45:01 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 02:50:16 | earHertz | how many languages does the hd-500 support? |
| 02:50:24 | scott666 | as many as you want it to? |
| 02:50:27 | midknight2k3 | dunno |
| 02:51:17 | Zagor | i'm off to bed. bye all. |
| 02:51:19 | | Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") |
| 02:52:24 | diddystar5 | bye |
| 02:52:26 | diddystar5 | to late |
| 02:52:27 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 02:52:35 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 02:54:37 | earHertz | English Korean Japanese Chinese |
| 02:57:59 | diddystar5 | German, Chicken, Danish, Deutch, Swedish |
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| 02:58:09 | diddystar5 | n/m the chicken |
| 02:58:10 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 02:58:18 | diddystar5 | it just rymed |
| 02:58:34 | arspy87 | hey everyone |
| 02:58:38 | scott666 | hey |
| 02:58:39 | diddystar5 | hi |
| 02:58:49 | diddystar5 | i gotta go |
| 02:58:55 | arspy87 | later |
| 02:58:57 | midknight2k3 | bye |
| 02:59:07 | diddystar5 | bye everyone |
| 02:59:11 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Bye") |
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| 03:00:55 | NSplit | orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 03:01:20 | NHeal | orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 03:01:20 | NJoin | adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-24-219.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
| 03:05:39 | | Part arspy87 |
| 03:10:59 | midknight2k3 | LINUS! |
| 03:11:01 | midknight2k3 | help! |
| 03:11:14 | midknight2k3 | i keep getting this error |
| 03:11:16 | midknight2k3 | __ |
| 03:11:16 | midknight2k3 | /rockbox/lib/gcc-lib/sh-elf/3.0.4/../../../../sh-elf/bin/ld:/home/rockbox/finalc |
| 03:11:16 | midknight2k3 | lock5/build/linkage.lds:69: parse error |
| 03:11:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
| 03:11:16 | midknight2k3 | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 03:11:16 | midknight2k3 | make[1]: *** [/home/rockbox/finalclock5/build/rockbox.elf] Error 1 |
| 03:11:16 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 03:11:16 | midknight2k3 | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rockbox/finalclock5/apps' |
| 03:11:18 | midknight2k3 | make: *** [apps] Error 2 |
| 03:11:22 | LinusN | midknight2k3: what's up? |
| 03:11:31 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:11:34 | midknight2k3 | linusN is so nice |
| 03:11:58 | LinusN | and what's on line 59 of linkage.lds? |
| 03:12:05 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 03:12:10 | midknight2k3 | sdd? |
| 03:12:12 | LinusN | 69, sorry |
| 03:13:08 | Sebulba02 | err, missing semicolon :) ? |
| 03:13:16 | midknight2k3 | i didnt make it |
| 03:13:22 | Sebulba02 | oh |
| 03:13:22 | midknight2k3 | so chances are EVERYONE is gonna get this error |
| 03:13:34 | midknight2k3 | this is freshly checked out |
| 03:13:38 | top_bloke | no its just YOU |
| 03:13:39 | midknight2k3 | non modified |
| 03:13:41 | midknight2k3 | FU |
| 03:13:44 | top_bloke | nah j/k |
| 03:13:49 | midknight2k3 | o right |
| 03:13:53 | midknight2k3 | whats on line.. 69 hm |
| 03:14:03 | top_bloke | lol he said 69 |
| 03:14:17 | midknight2k3 | shutup! |
| 03:14:19 | top_bloke | that was bad sorry |
| 03:14:31 | midknight2k3 | 69: } |
| 03:14:37 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 03:14:38 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 03:14:39 | midknight2k3 | i get it |
| 03:14:40 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:14:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 03:14:41 | midknight2k3 | but no |
| 03:14:44 | midknight2k3 | still |
| 03:14:45 | midknight2k3 | shutup |
| 03:14:55 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 03:14:59 | midknight2k3 | its just: } |
| 03:15:26 | Sebulba02 | theres probably one missing then |
| 03:15:32 | midknight2k3 | well |
| 03:15:36 | midknight2k3 | its not my fault |
| 03:15:49 | midknight2k3 | aa |
| 03:15:54 | | Quit cjnr11 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 03:16:25 | LinusN | i see that you are building your firmware in a directory two levels down from the "rockbox" dir |
| 03:16:31 | midknight2k3 | two levels? |
| 03:16:36 | midknight2k3 | just one |
| 03:16:41 | LinusN | rockbox/clock5/build |
| 03:16:50 | midknight2k3 | thats FINALCLOCK5 to you. |
| 03:16:54 | midknight2k3 | rockbox IS the dir |
| 03:17:06 | midknight2k3 | and it always builds in "build" |
| 03:17:11 | LinusN | oh, so finalclock5 is the rockbox dir |
| 03:17:28 | midknight2k3 | "rockbox" is the rockbox dir |
| 03:17:37 | midknight2k3 | finalclock5 contains apps, firmware, etc |
| 03:17:38 | LinusN | rockbox is your home dir, isn't it? |
| 03:17:41 | midknight2k3 | build is the builddir |
| 03:17:44 | midknight2k3 | yes to that |
| 03:17:56 | LinusN | and finalclock5 is the rockbox dir |
| 03:18:05 | LinusN | with apps, firmware etc |
| 03:18:09 | LinusN | and build |
| 03:18:44 | midknight2k3 | if ("rockbox" dir) { equal to dir with apps, firmware, etc, question=CORRECT } |
| 03:18:50 | midknight2k3 | sorry couldnt resist C formatted reply |
| 03:18:51 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:19:03 | top_bloke | wow |
| 03:19:10 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 03:19:11 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 03:19:19 | top_bloke | nothing |
| 03:19:22 | top_bloke | what |
| 03:19:46 | midknight2k3 | i bet linus will hound me with insults on my crappy code :D |
| 03:20:19 | top_bloke | lol |
| 03:20:25 | top_bloke | nah |
| 03:20:28 | scott666 | someones gotta |
| 03:20:34 | midknight2k3 | fine let scott do it |
| 03:20:41 | midknight2k3 | even though i didnt try to make it good |
| 03:21:16 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 03:21:22 | midknight2k3 | if(rockbox_dir==dir_w_apps_firmware) {question==correct} else {question==incorrect} |
| 03:21:24 | LinusN | midknight2k3: are you sure you didn't change anything except for your plugin? |
| 03:21:25 | midknight2k3 | hows that |
| 03:21:27 | midknight2k3 | sure |
| 03:21:30 | midknight2k3 | positivo |
| 03:21:32 | midknight2k3 | i think. |
| 03:21:33 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:21:55 | LinusN | and you did a proper "configure"? |
| 03:22:01 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 03:22:02 | scott666 | =, not == |
| 03:22:05 | midknight2k3 | did that dumb error last time |
| 03:22:14 | midknight2k3 | i get = and == confused |
| 03:22:17 | LinusN | midknight2k3: you forgot the semicolons as well |
| 03:22:21 | midknight2k3 | == is to stick val in variable right |
| 03:22:26 | midknight2k3 | which ones? |
| 03:22:28 | Sebulba02 | no |
| 03:22:33 | midknight2k3 | what what |
| 03:22:34 | Sebulba02 | == compares |
| 03:22:41 | midknight2k3 | if is comparing |
| 03:22:47 | midknight2k3 | == is like /= or *= |
| 03:22:50 | LinusN | if(rockbox_dir==dir_w_apps_firmware) {question=correct;} else {question=incorrect;} |
| 03:22:51 | midknight2k3 | just with equals |
| 03:22:57 | midknight2k3 | oh whatever |
| 03:23:05 | Sebulba02 | what LinusN said |
| 03:23:07 | midknight2k3 | lets stop fawning over quickly made fake code |
| 03:23:19 | LinusN | midknight2k3: can you paste the linkage.lds file in a private channel? |
| 03:23:35 | midknight2k3 | sure |
| 03:24:36 | | Quit midknight2k3 (Excess Flood) |
| 03:24:42 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 03:24:44 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@ACAAA4A6.ipt.aol.com) |
| 03:25:54 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 03:25:59 | midknight2k3 | shh |
| 03:26:03 | midknight2k3 | its linus's fault |
| 03:26:14 | LinusN | :-) |
| 03:26:15 | Sebulba02 | always someone else |
| 03:26:31 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 03:26:40 | midknight2k3 | 18:23:12 | <midknight2k3> 78 lines long |
| 03:26:40 | midknight2k3 | 18:23:14 | <midknight2k3> ill be kicked |
| 03:26:40 | midknight2k3 | 18:23:17 | <midknight2k3> so ill brb after |
| 03:26:40 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
| 03:26:40 | midknight2k3 | 18:23:23 | <LinusN> nope not in a private channel |
| 03:27:07 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 03:27:13 | LinusN | silly me |
| 03:27:38 | midknight2k3 | sure it was |
| 03:27:40 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:28:39 | scott666 | lol |
| 03:29:05 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 03:30:49 | scott666 | AHHHH! my screens in 3d!! |
| 03:31:03 | midknight2k3 | OH NO |
| 03:32:33 | Sebulba02 | you installed 3dwm? |
| 03:32:46 | scott666 | no |
| 03:33:26 | scott666 | AHHH!!! THE KEYBOARD TOO!!! |
| 03:33:39 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 15 minutes and 24 seconds at the last flood |
| 03:33:39 | * | scott666 fears for his sanity |
| 03:33:54 | Sebulba02 | oh, you mean life? scarey, eh? |
| 03:34:57 | * | scott666 takes a picture of his size efficient mouse |
| 03:35:03 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:35:54 | Sebulba02 | whoa, winamp5 |
| 03:35:58 | midknight2k3 | i have it |
| 03:35:59 | midknight2k3 | its nice |
| 03:36:02 | midknight2k3 | i have Pro |
| 03:36:15 | Sebulba02 | legal? :) |
| 03:36:18 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 03:36:21 | midknight2k3 | uh |
| 03:36:24 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 03:36:26 | midknight2k3 | say linus, hows your life going? |
| 03:37:00 | LinusN | bad as usual :-) |
| 03:37:11 | midknight2k3 | that's great |
| 03:37:24 | scott666 | lol |
| 03:37:33 | Sebulba02 | lol |
| 03:38:35 | Sebulba02 | midknight2k3: is pro a different binary or just the full with features restricted? |
| 03:38:42 | midknight2k3 | huh uh what now |
| 03:38:44 | midknight2k3 | er uh |
| 03:38:47 | midknight2k3 | hi [OFF]BtT |
| 03:38:57 | midknight2k3 | i think its the same |
| 03:39:02 | midknight2k3 | i have a key if you want to unlock it |
| 03:39:33 | Sebulba02 | I found about 5 or so. |
| 03:39:40 | midknight2k3 | thats GOOD you asdf |
| 03:39:56 | Sebulba02 | I just wish I could download it faster than 2k/s |
| 03:42:54 | scott666 | pro has a cd burner and ripper |
| 03:43:00 | midknight2k3 | its nice yes |
| 03:43:31 | Sebulba02 | Eh, the latest version of nero will suffice for me |
| 03:43:59 | scott666 | i need that... |
| 03:44:03 | scott666 | im still using 5.5 |
| 03:44:06 | scott666 | or so |
| 03:44:22 | Sebulba02 | 6 looks pretty nice |
| 03:44:30 | midknight2k3 | 6 is nice |
| 03:44:31 | scott666 | yeah |
| 03:44:33 | Sebulba02 | Though i don't know what they changed function wise |
| 03:44:46 | scott666 | i think they added a bunch of dvdr stuff |
| 03:45:01 | Sebulba02 | Kinda like Photoshop8, only noticable change is icons and minor additions. |
| 03:45:01 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 03:45:08 | midknight2k3 | and a new StartSmart |
| 03:45:27 | Sebulba02 | I haven't used it much |
| 03:46:02 | | Join thedude02 [0] (~thefirstd@pm484-36.dialip.mich.net) |
| 03:46:32 | | Part thedude02 |
| 03:49:20 | | Quit AciD ("q2 > *") |
| 03:55:20 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 04:00 |
| 04:08:03 | Sebulba02 | whoa, this does look nice |
| 04:08:09 | midknight2k3 | tis |
| 04:08:12 | midknight2k3 | need key? |
| 04:08:31 | Sebulba02 | lemme try these first |
| 04:10:16 | Sebulba02 | nah, this one worked, thanks anyways |
| 04:10:17 | | Quit midknight2k3 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 04:10:44 | | Join thedude02 [0] (~thefirstd@pm484-36.dialip.mich.net) |
| 04:11:25 | | Quit thedude02 (Client Quit) |
| 04:13:56 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@ACAD4983.ipt.aol.com) |
| 04:14:07 | midknight2k3 | computer crash |
| 04:15:46 | Sebulba02 | damn, I like this. |
| 04:15:49 | Sebulba02 | oh, that sucks |
| 04:16:29 | | Join thedude02 [0] (~thefirstd@pm484-36.dialip.mich.net) |
| 04:16:40 | thedude02 | midknight's computer crashed |
| 04:16:41 | thedude02 | midknight's computer crashed |
| 04:16:43 | | Part thedude02 |
| 04:17:27 | Sebulba02 | whats that about? |
| 04:17:58 | | Join thedude02 [0] (~thefirstd@pm484-36.dialip.mich.net) |
| 04:18:04 | | Part thedude02 |
| 04:19:27 | midknight2k3 | wtf |
| 04:21:10 | Sebulba02 | beats me |
| 04:21:19 | midknight2k3 | anyone: ignore thedude02 |
| 04:21:24 | midknight2k3 | he is a stalker, a liar, and a pest |
| 04:22:32 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 04:22:38 | midknight2k3 | he is |
| 04:22:47 | midknight2k3 | i warn you, stay away |
| 04:23:24 | Sebulba02 | I'm not hunting him down, if thats what your worried about. |
| 04:23:42 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 04:23:46 | midknight2k3 | just don't pay attention |
| 04:23:48 | midknight2k3 | do a quick /ignore |
| 04:24:52 | top_bloke | man i cant open ANY website in IE, i get The page cannot be displayed |
| 04:25:08 | Sebulba02 | don't use IE then |
| 04:25:08 | top_bloke | and yet i'm on IRC |
| 04:25:39 | top_bloke | yeah but |
| 04:26:37 | Sebulba02 | I can't get anywhere with IE on my win2k box either, because I have it password protected from everything and threw away the password :) |
| 04:26:42 | midknight2k3 | ie sucks |
| 04:26:45 | midknight2k3 | LOL! |
| 04:27:12 | Sebulba02 | I prefer Opera over IE, but Mozilla is nice as well. |
| 04:27:28 | midknight2k3 | opera is nice |
| 04:28:13 | Sebulba02 | Its sweet that the win32 development is equal to the linux development, I like having = software on both platforms. |
| 04:28:24 | Sebulba02 | s/=/equal |
| 04:28:29 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 04:28:48 | Sebulba02 | God, I'm lazy |
| 04:29:09 | midknight2k3 | that took more energy than just saying it in the first place |
| 04:29:22 | top_bloke | lol |
| 04:29:23 | Sebulba02 | yeah |
| 04:30:41 | Sebulba02 | dang, are there any plugins that didn't package with winamp5? |
| 04:30:54 | midknight2k3 | are you kidding |
| 04:30:58 | midknight2k3 | of course |
| 04:31:31 | | Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-73-57.reverse.qsc.de) |
| 04:31:36 | midknight2k3 | nibbler |
| 04:31:37 | midknight2k3 | yay\ |
| 04:31:46 | Sebulba02 | well, generally all the ones I gotta go hunt for, have been rolled for me |
| 04:35:42 | Nibbler | lo midknight2k3 :] |
| 04:35:51 | midknight2k3 | hey nibbler |
| 04:35:54 | midknight2k3 | you sound familiar |
| 04:36:35 | Nibbler | umm well |
| 04:36:42 | Nibbler | ive been ideling here for some month b4 |
| 04:37:24 | midknight2k3 | i know |
| 04:37:25 | midknight2k3 | but before that |
| 04:37:56 | top_bloke | nibbler is from futurama |
| 04:38:01 | top_bloke | thats how u know him |
| 04:38:06 | midknight2k3 | i dont watch CRAP |
| 04:38:14 | Nibbler | oioioi, watch your words! :D |
| 04:38:25 | top_bloke | me neither |
| 04:38:32 | top_bloke | futurama, i DO watch |
| 04:39:17 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 04:39:17 | Nibbler | \o/ religion :] |
| 04:39:43 | Sebulba02 | Nibbler, hmm. I forget what that was. |
| 04:39:47 | * | Nibbler is going totally mad with his new external hdd-case (usb2) |
| 04:39:57 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 04:39:59 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 04:41:20 | Nibbler | after i killed my first one by using a "normal computer cable" instead of the one in the package, which looked like a normal one, but had contacts linked differnt the new one does not keep up the usb-connection it seems |
| 04:41:22 | Nibbler | crap |
| 04:41:43 | midknight2k3 | lol! |
| 04:46:12 | | Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) |
| 04:46:23 | Sebulba02 | wow, some of these songs make a lot more sense after you read the lyrics.. |
| 04:46:51 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 04:51:15 | LinusN | nite all! |
| 04:51:19 | | Part LinusN |
| 04:51:37 | Sebulba02 | dang, he waited a whole 5s before leaving.. |
| 04:52:33 | midknight2k3 | 4s |
| 04:52:46 | midknight2k3 | but why is that a "dang"? |
| 04:52:46 | Sebulba02 | 5 here |
| 04:52:57 | Nibbler | 5 here also |
| 04:52:58 | midknight2k3 | 19:50:46 | <LinusN> nite all! |
| 04:53:00 | midknight2k3 | 19:50:50 | * LinusN has left #rockbox |
| 04:53:13 | * | midknight2k3 sets mirc to also tag millisecomd\ |
| 04:53:48 | Sebulba02 | mirc, ick |
| 04:53:58 | Sebulba02 | (22:51:11) LinusN: nite all! |
| 04:53:59 | Sebulba02 | (22:51:16) LinusN left the room. |
| 04:54:12 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 04:54:16 | midknight2k3 | what client is THAT? |
| 04:54:20 | Sebulba02 | Gaim |
| 04:54:25 | midknight2k3 | "left the room" LOL |
| 04:54:28 | midknight2k3 | LOL! |
| 04:54:31 | midknight2k3 | EVEN WORSE |
| 04:54:34 | midknight2k3 | thats like TRILLSUCK |
| 04:54:45 | Sebulba02 | Gaim is far better. |
| 04:55:04 | midknight2k3 | it sucks mine |
| 04:55:24 | Sebulba02 | thats your choice :) |
| 04:55:45 | midknight2k3 | it stinks and it sucks and its bl.. STCUASDF SDD |
| 05:00 |
| 05:04:04 | scott666 | both gaim and trillian are better than mirc, easily |
| 05:04:15 | midknight2k3 | eat me |
| 05:04:17 | midknight2k3 | i use xchat |
| 05:04:20 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 05:04:28 | midknight2k3 | or client |
| 05:04:30 | midknight2k3 | klient* |
| 05:04:38 | scott666 | trillian still wins |
| 05:04:40 | midknight2k3 | klient recently went berserk |
| 05:04:46 | midknight2k3 | so, i had to stop using it |
| 05:05:41 | Sebulba02 | xchat2 was nice, when I used it, but I kinda like being able to alias people and IM them, on IRC. |
| 05:06:05 | scott666 | yeah |
| 05:06:19 | Sebulba02 | If xchat would do that, I'd probably start using it again. |
| 05:06:42 | midknight2k3 | huh |
| 05:06:55 | Sebulba02 | add buddy aliasing |
| 05:07:25 | scott666 | hey mk, you still have that wa5 key? |
| 05:07:30 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 05:07:41 | midknight2k3 | keyGEN |
| 05:07:43 | scott666 | send it? |
| 05:07:45 | midknight2k3 | dcc ok? its a few kb |
| 05:07:50 | scott666 | sure |
| 05:08:34 | midknight2k3 | be warned |
| 05:08:37 | midknight2k3 | it has a butt icon |
| 05:08:40 | midknight2k3 | oops |
| 05:08:44 | midknight2k3 | sry top |
| 05:08:44 | top_bloke | lol |
| 05:08:47 | scott666 | lol |
| 05:08:50 | top_bloke | np |
| 05:08:56 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 05:08:59 | midknight2k3 | oopsies |
| 05:09:05 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 05:09:09 | midknight2k3 | sending to "scott666" |
| 05:09:13 | midknight2k3 | not "top_bloke" |
| 05:09:20 | midknight2k3 | awaiting reply, scott |
| 05:10:39 | Sebulba02 | does it play music also? |
| 05:10:46 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 05:10:49 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 05:10:52 | midknight2k3 | WHAT |
| 05:10:55 | midknight2k3 | winamp? lol |
| 05:10:58 | midknight2k3 | i think so |
| 05:11:01 | Sebulba02 | I had a key gen for something that played a reallly cool midi |
| 05:11:06 | Sebulba02 | really* |
| 05:11:11 | midknight2k3 | dont remember |
| 05:11:13 | scott666 | sweet |
| 05:11:14 | midknight2k3 | yea |
| 05:11:16 | midknight2k3 | lots of them do |
| 05:11:24 | midknight2k3 | some "Team RS" or something |
| 05:11:30 | midknight2k3 | they are neat |
| 05:11:32 | midknight2k3 | animated and stuff |
| 05:11:45 | midknight2k3 | amazing, how much work they put into a software key generator |
| 05:11:51 | midknight2k3 | you just click generate and copy |
| 05:11:58 | midknight2k3 | they make it souped up for you |
| 05:12:09 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 05:12:45 | scott666 | yeah, thats nice |
| 05:13:16 | midknight2k3 | spend hours with animations and music, you just hit the button and close it |
| 05:13:24 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 05:13:27 | scott666 | i like the new track popup at the corner |
| 05:13:33 | scott666 | its likee using msn messenger again |
| 05:13:46 | Sebulba02 | ick |
| 05:13:52 | Sebulba02 | (opinion) |
| 05:14:00 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 05:14:02 | scott666 | i hate msn messenger |
| 05:14:05 | midknight2k3 | why |
| 05:14:08 | midknight2k3 | WHY |
| 05:14:10 | scott666 | but the popup is lnice for song info |
| 05:14:41 | scott666 | i dont have to click on winamp to figure out what the hell this weird song is |
| 05:14:54 | Sebulba02 | I suppose. |
| 05:17:21 | Sebulba02 | Its nice to see they added all the 2.x stuff back |
| 05:17:30 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 05:17:31 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 05:17:36 | midknight2k3 | what was missing in 3? |
| 05:17:58 | Sebulba02 | the ability to set your icons |
| 05:18:05 | Sebulba02 | context menu |
| 05:18:12 | Sebulba02 | small things |
| 05:18:16 | midknight2k3 | OOH ICON SETTING?! |
| 05:18:19 | midknight2k3 | IT WAS MISSING? |
| 05:18:22 | midknight2k3 | CALL THE FBI! |
| 05:18:45 | scott666 | were global keyboard shortcuts in 3? |
| 05:19:27 | top_bloke | winamp 2 owns |
| 05:19:36 | midknight2k3 | nah |
| 05:19:37 | midknight2k3 | 5 does |
| 05:19:50 | top_bloke | bloat |
| 05:19:55 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 05:19:55 | midknight2k3 | why |
| 05:19:57 | midknight2k3 | its nice |
| 05:20:05 | top_bloke | how big is it? |
| 05:20:12 | scott666 | 4mb |
| 05:20:12 | Sebulba02 | no, there weren't |
| 05:20:18 | Sebulba02 | 3 was huge and slow |
| 05:20:28 | scott666 | wait, download or install? |
| 05:20:35 | Sebulba02 | but they seemed to fix that |
| 05:20:37 | top_bloke | so its 2+3? |
| 05:20:43 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 05:20:43 | midknight2k3 | right on |
| 05:20:44 | top_bloke | wheres 4? |
| 05:20:50 | midknight2k3 | 2+3=5 |
| 05:20:54 | Sebulba02 | the bit bucket |
| 05:20:55 | scott666 | fuck 4~ |
| 05:20:57 | top_bloke | wow |
| 05:20:58 | scott666 | ! |
| 05:21:00 | top_bloke | i'm good |
| 05:21:00 | midknight2k3 | winamp2 + winamp3 = winamp5 |
| 05:21:02 | midknight2k3 | get it? |
| 05:21:08 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 05:21:10 | top_bloke | i'm good |
| 05:21:14 | midknight2k3 | am not |
| 05:21:31 | midknight2k3 | OK who can recommend a good CD ripper? |
| 05:21:40 | scott666 | EAC or freerip |
| 05:21:46 | midknight2k3 | what do you use |
| 05:21:48 | top_bloke | audigrabber? |
| 05:21:54 | midknight2k3 | i used to |
| 05:21:59 | scott666 | depending on whether you want uber quality or easy |
| 05:22:05 | Sebulba02 | EAC is pretty good |
| 05:22:07 | scott666 | i use free rip |
| 05:22:08 | top_bloke | audiograbber that is |
| 05:22:36 | Sebulba02 | so is Grip :P |
| 05:23:03 | top_bloke | do they go straight to mp3 or make wav files? |
| 05:23:30 | scott666 | freerip goes straight to mp3 |
| 05:23:31 | midknight2k3 | ill try freerip |
| 05:23:31 | Sebulba02 | it has to be a wav before its made an mp3 |
| 05:23:51 | scott666 | *invisibly goes to mp3 |
| 05:23:56 | Sebulba02 | unless you cram the uncompressed data into ram and write it out as an mp3 |
| 05:24:14 | scott666 | thatd be fine |
| 05:24:27 | scott666 | i have a gb of ram, might as well use it |
| 05:24:54 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 05:25:21 | Sebulba02 | With 512, it wouldn't tax my machine. |
| 05:25:29 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 05:26:10 | Sebulba02 | Only time I used all my RAM is when that Doom3 alpha leaked, then my machine was taxed royally |
| 05:26:38 | Sebulba02 | Then again, a gig of ram would have made little difference there also |
| 05:27:43 | midknight2k3 | what bitrates ya rip at all? |
| 05:27:45 | Sebulba02 | hmm, need some good skins |
| 05:27:56 | scott666 | 192 CBR |
| 05:27:58 | top_bloke | can winamp5 use 2.x plugins? |
| 05:28:13 | Sebulba02 | i can't remember the last time i ripped a CD |
| 05:28:30 | Sebulba02 | I think its totally backwards compatable |
| 05:28:31 | scott666 | i can] |
| 05:28:36 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 05:28:37 | scott666 | it was 2 days ago |
| 05:28:50 | top_bloke | i might need to get that now |
| 05:29:03 | top_bloke | and i never upgrade software |
| 05:29:14 | top_bloke | i use like photoshop 5 and stuff |
| 05:29:16 | Sebulba02 | gotta be bleeding edge :) |
| 05:29:21 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 05:29:21 | top_bloke | and iwndows 98 |
| 05:29:31 | midknight2k3 | lol!!! |
| 05:29:43 | top_bloke | office 2000 though |
| 05:29:43 | Sebulba02 | eww |
| 05:29:47 | top_bloke | pretty new there |
| 05:29:50 | top_bloke | for me |
| 05:29:54 | earHertz | monkeys |
| 05:29:54 | scott666 | im living in the past! |
| 05:29:57 | Sebulba02 | Won't touch MS office anymore. |
| 05:30:01 | scott666 | firebird .6.1 |
| 05:30:04 | top_bloke | 2000 IS bleeding edge for me |
| 05:30:07 | midknight2k3 | i have photoshop 7, winxp, and office 2k3 |
| 05:30:07 | scott666 | theyre up to like .7.1 |
| 05:30:10 | midknight2k3 | a bit bleeding edge for i |
| 05:30:44 | top_bloke | so i doubt i'll get winamp5 |
| 05:30:49 | scott666 | i have corel draw 8, XP, and OO 1.1 |
| 05:30:49 | top_bloke | even though i should |
| 05:31:33 | Sebulba02 | OO 1.1 is sweet |
| 05:31:40 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 05:31:46 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 05:31:48 | midknight2k3 | boo |
| 05:31:51 | scott666 | open office |
| 05:31:55 | Sebulba02 | At that point I threw out any MS office cds I had |
| 05:32:09 | scott666 | i never had any |
| 05:32:16 | midknight2k3 | sucs |
| 05:32:23 | top_bloke | why u usin that bloated office mid |
| 05:32:30 | midknight2k3 | its nice |
| 05:32:31 | midknight2k3 | not bloated |
| 05:32:33 | midknight2k3 | youre bloated |
| 05:32:35 | top_bloke | its like 5 cds |
| 05:32:38 | midknight2k3 | (ooo diss) |
| 05:32:39 | midknight2k3 | i know |
| 05:32:48 | top_bloke | you insensitive clod |
| 05:32:54 | scott666 | and OO is what? 100mb? 2? |
| 05:32:59 | top_bloke | i weigh 500 pounds |
| 05:33:09 | * | top_bloke cries |
| 05:33:09 | Sebulba02 | its pretty small |
| 05:33:11 | midknight2k3 | thats sad |
| 05:33:11 | top_bloke | lol |
| 05:33:16 | midknight2k3 | no woder youre the TOP bloke |
| 05:33:23 | midknight2k3 | top_heavy is more like it |
| 05:33:24 | top_bloke | lolol |
| 05:33:30 | top_bloke | earytutrjstrjtrjstrjs |
| 05:33:36 | top_bloke | damn thats good |
| 05:33:40 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 05:33:47 | top_bloke | nice burn! |
| 05:33:47 | midknight2k3 | earytutrjstr...? |
| 05:33:58 | midknight2k3 | you dont get it |
| 05:33:58 | midknight2k3 | sadly |
| 05:34:02 | top_bloke | it was a good burn |
| 05:34:06 | scott666 | i do all my burning with nero |
| 05:34:16 | midknight2k3 | nero 6 ultra |
| 05:34:18 | midknight2k3 | for me |
| 05:34:20 | top_bloke | i was just mashing the keyboard laughing |
| 05:34:28 | Sebulba02 | If anyone doesn't, they should be shot. |
| 05:34:30 | midknight2k3 | nice nice |
| 05:34:31 | top_bloke | lets see what nero i have |
| 05:34:33 | scott666 | <Nero 6.0> i fucked your mom |
| 05:34:40 | midknight2k3 | wht now |
| 05:34:42 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 05:34:45 | Sebulba02 | huh |
| 05:35:03 | top_bloke | 5.0.2.2 |
| 05:35:03 | midknight2k3 | <me> shut up |
| 05:35:09 | top_bloke | i'm on the cutting edge |
| 05:35:14 | Sebulba02 | gawd |
| 05:35:16 | midknight2k3 | THATS OLD |
| 05:35:17 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 05:35:31 | top_bloke | i'm the king of old software |
| 05:35:48 | scott666 | but do you have commander keen? |
| 05:35:51 | Sebulba02 | I've got 6.0.0.22 here & its not even the latest |
| 05:36:01 | top_bloke | no... |
| 05:36:02 | midknight2k3 | talk about mIRC sucks - it insists on opening ANYTHING in wordpad |
| 05:36:15 | top_bloke | no |
| 05:36:15 | midknight2k3 | JPG, BMP, ZIP, EXE... |
| 05:36:19 | midknight2k3 | all in wordpad |
| 05:36:19 | Sebulba02 | ugh |
| 05:36:21 | top_bloke | it opens things FINE |
| 05:36:40 | top_bloke | mirc 6.02 rules |
| 05:36:47 | Sebulba02 | use a real client, xchat or gaim or maybe bitchx |
| 05:36:48 | scott666 | what would you open a jpg with other than wordpad? NOTEpad?! |
| 05:36:53 | midknight2k3 | i have 6.03 |
| 05:36:58 | top_bloke | lol |
| 05:37:01 | top_bloke | lolol |
| 05:37:06 | midknight2k3 | try Klient |
| 05:37:12 | top_bloke | why |
| 05:37:23 | midknight2k3 | holy wtf scott |
| 05:37:26 | midknight2k3 | LOL! |
| 05:37:27 | top_bloke | my motto: "if it aint broke, dont fix it" |
| 05:37:47 | midknight2k3 | LOLOL |
| 05:37:52 | Sebulba02 | and what if its broken beyone fixing, what then? |
| 05:37:58 | top_bloke | yeah |
| 05:38:02 | top_bloke | u mean like IE? |
| 05:38:09 | Sebulba02 | and many other win32 apps |
| 05:38:10 | midknight2k3 | firebird |
| 05:38:18 | top_bloke | where i cant open any page to even DOWNLOAD a new browser |
| 05:38:19 | scott666 | anyone else want to see a picture of my ultra space efficient mouse? |
| 05:38:22 | Sebulba02 | firebird was okay, but I found it lacked a lot |
| 05:38:36 | top_bloke | oooh he burned ur firebird mid |
| 05:38:43 | top_bloke | u gonna take that? |
| 05:38:44 | midknight2k3 | HEY WTF |
| 05:38:47 | midknight2k3 | NO IM NOT |
| 05:38:50 | Sebulba02 | That was 0.6 though |
| 05:38:58 | * | midknight2k3 gives Sebulba02 some of THIS an THAT |
| 05:39:01 | Sebulba02 | I haven't tried it recently |
| 05:39:03 | midknight2k3 | 0.7 is better |
| 05:39:08 | midknight2k3 | SCOTT |
| 05:39:10 | midknight2k3 | THATS HILARIOUS |
| 05:39:21 | top_bloke | they still havent reached 1.0? |
| 05:39:23 | scott666 | it took me like 2 hours to get that shit out |
| 05:39:39 | scott666 | that wire was/is pissing me off |
| 05:39:46 | Sebulba02 | hmm |
| 05:41:32 | Sebulba02 | your right, it is nicer |
| 05:42:09 | midknight2k3 | its great |
| 05:42:11 | midknight2k3 | wtf you speak of |
| 05:42:59 | midknight2k3 | freerip can kiss mine |
| 05:43:26 | top_bloke | use audigrabber |
| 05:43:30 | top_bloke | o |
| 05:43:32 | midknight2k3 | i used to |
| 05:43:34 | Sebulba02 | I dunno, i still like opera a lot |
| 05:43:35 | midknight2k3 | im regetting it |
| 05:43:41 | top_bloke | why cant i type the o |
| 05:43:49 | midknight2k3 | Sebulba02: i think you should give mozilla a shot for a bit |
| 05:43:54 | midknight2k3 | i used to too |
| 05:43:56 | Sebulba02 | i do use mozilla |
| 05:43:57 | top_bloke | lol audigrabber |
| 05:44:00 | midknight2k3 | but now mozilla is all it |
| 05:44:03 | midknight2k3 | STOP TOP |
| 05:44:10 | top_bloke | it grabs Audi... |
| 05:44:16 | top_bloke | s |
| 05:44:24 | scott666 | audis suck |
| 05:44:31 | top_bloke | like the car? |
| 05:44:44 | top_bloke | theyre made by VW |
| 05:44:48 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 05:45:18 | scott666 | yeah, really they dont, but it was fun to say |
| 05:45:44 | top_bloke | theyre quality automoblies. |
| 05:47:45 | scott666 | im off to bed. l8er |
| 05:47:52 | | Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") |
| 05:47:55 | Sebulba02 | 'night |
| 05:47:58 | midknight2k3 | TOO LATE |
| 05:48:00 | midknight2k3 | ha |
| 05:48:02 | top_bloke | word |
| 05:48:04 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 05:48:19 | top_bloke | word to that |
| 05:48:41 | midknight2k3 | ASDF |
| 05:49:01 | top_bloke | indeed |
| 05:49:14 | midknight2k3 | re |
| 05:49:16 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 05:49:16 | midknight2k3 | dfad |
| 05:49:19 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 05:50:00 | Sebulba02 | going crazy, eh? |
| 05:50:07 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 05:50:07 | top_bloke | going? |
| 05:50:11 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 05:50:13 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 05:50:16 | midknight2k3 | gone |
| 05:50:17 | top_bloke | more like IS |
| 05:50:24 | midknight2k3 | "gone" |
| 05:50:25 | top_bloke | or gone |
| 05:50:35 | top_bloke | damn that is better |
| 05:50:43 | midknight2k3 | it is |
| 05:50:49 | midknight2k3 | going, gone. not going, is |
| 05:50:49 | top_bloke | curses |
| 05:50:59 | midknight2k3 | DONT SWEAR TOOPY |
| 05:51:04 | top_bloke | curse you! |
| 05:51:24 | Sebulba02 | ncurses to you all |
| 05:51:34 | midknight2k3 | rqewtr |
| 05:52:03 | top_bloke | qwerty |
| 05:52:21 | midknight2k3 | qwerrt |
| 05:52:28 | top_bloke | uiop |
| 05:52:31 | midknight2k3 | smart != stupid |
| 05:52:38 | midknight2k3 | toppy is !smart |
| 05:52:42 | top_bloke | wow |
| 05:52:53 | top_bloke | such great logic |
| 05:53:01 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 05:53:12 | top_bloke | bravo |
| 05:53:17 | midknight2k3 | toppys iq is 12^2 |
| 05:53:29 | top_bloke | wow thats high |
| 05:53:35 | top_bloke | i rule |
| 05:53:38 | midknight2k3 | not quite |
| 05:53:42 | midknight2k3 | maybe 11^2 |
| 05:53:46 | top_bloke | noooo |
| 05:53:57 | midknight2k3 | (12^2)-5 |
| 05:54:01 | midknight2k3 | about right |
| 05:54:07 | top_bloke | 142 |
| 05:54:14 | Sebulba02 | for i in top_bloke midknight2k3; do rm -f "$i"; done; |
| 05:54:31 | midknight2k3 | 144 |
| 05:54:35 | midknight2k3 | -5 |
| 05:54:35 | midknight2k3 | - |
| 05:54:35 | midknight2k3 | 139 |
| 05:54:42 | top_bloke | oh |
| 05:54:46 | Sebulba02 | iq−− |
| 05:54:49 | top_bloke | i read that as -2 for some reason |
| 05:55:01 | top_bloke | i'm the smart |
| 05:55:23 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:55:42 | top_bloke | i guess i saw what i wanted to see |
| 05:55:52 | midknight2k3 | for(iq-144;iq>139;iq−−) { printf("Toppy is a jerk.\n"); } |
| 05:55:57 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 05:56:02 | midknight2k3 | for(iq=144;iq>139;iq−−) { printf("Toppy is a jerk.\n"); } |
| 05:56:11 | midknight2k3 | thats good code |
| 05:56:21 | midknight2k3 | that would work if you popped it into a compiler |
| 05:56:34 | top_bloke | print that 5 times? |
| 05:56:46 | midknight2k3 | yupxors |
| 05:56:52 | top_bloke | xwowx |
| 05:56:56 | midknight2k3 | are you a c master? lol |
| 05:57:11 | top_bloke | no, just Java |
| 05:57:16 | Sebulba02 | do{ printf("Shhhhhhhhh!\n"); }while(midnight2k3) |
| 05:57:20 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 05:57:22 | top_bloke | I MADE PONG for java |
| 05:57:26 | midknight2k3 | uh |
| 05:57:28 | top_bloke | it is so sweet |
| 05:57:32 | midknight2k3 | LOL! |
| 05:57:35 | Sebulba02 | I wrote tetris in java |
| 05:57:35 | midknight2k3 | tppy |
| 05:57:38 | midknight2k3 | i want to see |
| 05:57:40 | Sebulba02 | pacman in C++ |
| 05:57:46 | top_bloke | wow |
| 05:57:58 | top_bloke | how |
| 05:58:02 | top_bloke | now |
| 05:58:04 | Sebulba02 | C++/SDL |
| 05:58:07 | midknight2k3 | "how"? |
| 05:58:13 | top_bloke | how to see it |
| 05:58:25 | Sebulba02 | all thats really left is ghost AI, so its not *done* yet. |
| 05:58:33 | Sebulba02 | but its close |
| 05:58:51 | top_bloke | yeah my other paddle is computer controlled! |
| 05:59:13 | top_bloke | its X is the same X as the ball! |
| 05:59:19 | top_bloke | now THATS AI |
| 05:59:24 | Sebulba02 | thats not hard, just follow the ball |
| 05:59:31 | top_bloke | (the paddles are on top and bottom) |
| 05:59:38 | Sebulba02 | with increasing response time |
| 05:59:40 | top_bloke | yeah |
| 05:59:44 | top_bloke | i know |
| 05:59:48 | top_bloke | i tool the easy way out |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:00 | top_bloke | and there was no way to win! |
| 06:00:08 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 06:00:15 | Sebulba02 | AI in pacman is a bit more complex, finding shortest path and all that mess.. but not too fast or too slow |
| 06:00:29 | top_bloke | cause the paddle was ALWAYS in the same spot as the ball |
| 06:00:39 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 06:00:45 | top_bloke | arent the ghost just randomly wandering around? |
| 06:00:50 | Sebulba02 | no |
| 06:00:55 | Sebulba02 | they have patterns |
| 06:00:58 | top_bloke | i thought they were |
| 06:01:00 | top_bloke | oh |
| 06:01:20 | Sebulba02 | plus I believe they home in on pacman after a given amount of time |
| 06:01:30 | top_bloke | ah |
| 06:02:03 | top_bloke | eh |
| 06:02:22 | Sebulba02 | of course, to the best of my knowledge, that info isn't published anywhere |
| 06:02:25 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 06:02:37 | top_bloke | uh |
| 06:03:01 | Sebulba02 | I also have this, http://triangle.sf.net/ , which I haven't touched since the summer. |
| 06:03:02 | midknight2k3 | 7asdf |
| 06:03:19 | midknight2k3 | LOLL |
| 06:03:32 | Sebulba02 | triangles* |
| 06:03:50 | Sebulba02 | assming they didn't close my project |
| 06:03:51 | top_bloke | make pacman for rockbox |
| 06:03:54 | midknight2k3 | LOLOL |
| 06:04:05 | Sebulba02 | I've thought about it |
| 06:04:24 | Sebulba02 | I could potentially use a lot of my code, just rewriting the view handlers |
| 06:04:38 | top_bloke | yay so do it |
| 06:04:50 | Sebulba02 | I have a lot of other stuff to write first |
| 06:05:07 | Sebulba02 | minimally, a wireless simulator so I can graduate |
| 06:05:26 | top_bloke | i see |
| 06:05:34 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 06:05:41 | top_bloke | i wish i could make pong for rockbox |
| 06:05:48 | top_bloke | not like the crappy chip8 one |
| 06:05:52 | midknight2k3 | make it |
| 06:05:53 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 06:05:55 | top_bloke | a REAL pong |
| 06:05:58 | midknight2k3 | thatd be cool |
| 06:06:00 | midknight2k3 | i could help |
| 06:06:12 | top_bloke | i dunno how to draw to the scree |
| 06:06:15 | top_bloke | n |
| 06:06:22 | Sebulba02 | it can't be hard |
| 06:06:31 | Sebulba02 | (hopefully) |
| 06:06:39 | midknight2k3 | uh |
| 06:06:44 | midknight2k3 | rb->lcd_putsxy? |
| 06:06:54 | midknight2k3 | rb->lcd_update? |
| 06:06:57 | midknight2k3 | ..?? |
| 06:07:09 | Sebulba02 | thats a lot more simple than a lot of things |
| 06:07:16 | top_bloke | well i guess |
| 06:07:17 | midknight2k3 | such as? |
| 06:07:37 | Sebulba02 | OpenGL |
| 06:07:48 | top_bloke | i'm used to gBuffer.fillRect and such |
| 06:08:01 | top_bloke | for a paddle |
| 06:08:08 | top_bloke | i dont know how to in rb |
| 06:08:13 | midknight2k3 | its similar |
| 06:08:15 | Sebulba02 | What graphics lib? |
| 06:08:33 | top_bloke | how u mean? |
| 06:08:41 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 06:08:44 | Sebulba02 | For your pong. |
| 06:09:02 | top_bloke | my teacher did all that graphic stuff |
| 06:09:06 | top_bloke | i dunno how |
| 06:09:11 | Sebulba02 | I was involved in a class pong project using allegro |
| 06:09:11 | earHertz | what's your question, midknight2k3 ? |
| 06:09:24 | midknight2k3 | ear: what? |
| 06:10:09 | earHertz | what's your question about the lcd functions? |
| 06:10:19 | midknight2k3 | had none |
| 06:12:27 | top_bloke | i'm geting sleepy |
| 06:12:44 | midknight2k3 | hang in there toopy |
| 06:12:49 | top_bloke | nah i cant |
| 06:12:49 | * | midknight2k3 curls up in chair |
| 06:12:55 | top_bloke | my eyes hurt |
| 06:13:00 | midknight2k3 | the download |
| 06:13:38 | top_bloke | only 12 min |
| 06:13:44 | top_bloke | yay |
| 06:14:18 | Sebulba02 | hmm |
| 06:14:20 | midknight2k3 | oops wrong zip file! |
| 06:14:28 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 06:14:28 | midknight2k3 | uh |
| 06:14:41 | midknight2k3 | its the wrong... file... |
| 06:14:48 | midknight2k3 | j/k |
| 06:14:55 | earHertz | you mooks answered my poll on the mailing list? |
| 06:15:07 | midknight2k3 | not i |
| 06:15:10 | Sebulba02 | what poll? |
| 06:15:15 | midknight2k3 | im not a mook tho |
| 06:15:15 | midknight2k3 | so,, yeah |
| 06:15:16 | top_bloke | nooooooo |
| 06:15:25 | top_bloke | moooooook |
| 06:15:34 | midknight2k3 | toppy: kidding |
| 06:15:37 | top_bloke | better not be the worng file |
| 06:15:46 | earHertz | About hardware problems and your newxt mp3 plater |
| 06:15:48 | midknight2k3 | its not |
| 06:15:54 | top_bloke | hey i could be EyesHertz |
| 06:15:56 | midknight2k3 | i busted your box with my ultrac ode |
| 06:16:00 | top_bloke | cause my eyes hurt |
| 06:16:04 | top_bloke | noooooooooo |
| 06:16:09 | midknight2k3 | my new mp3 player will be an ajbrec20 |
| 06:16:23 | midknight2k3 | ear: make your nick "earHurts" |
| 06:16:25 | earHertz | Yeah, yeah, I don't need no imitators. I'm the real Slim EarHertz |
| 06:16:27 | top_bloke | why? |
| 06:16:29 | midknight2k3 | cmon |
| 06:16:32 | top_bloke | u got an FM |
| 06:16:41 | midknight2k3 | earHURTS! |
| 06:16:48 | midknight2k3 | SHEEZ |
| 06:16:48 | midknight2k3 | fms suck |
| 06:16:50 | earHertz | I've got an FM THAT DOESN"T $%#^*$ WORK |
| 06:16:51 | top_bloke | all you other earHertz's r just immitating |
| 06:17:02 | top_bloke | so wont the real earHertz please stand up |
| 06:17:46 | top_bloke | ? |
| 06:17:49 | midknight2k3 | you've got an FM THAT DOESN"T (dollar percent pound tothe asterisk dollar) WORK? |
| 06:17:54 | earHertz | How;d you guys learn about Rockbox? |
| 06:18:09 | top_bloke | i didnt |
| 06:18:15 | top_bloke | whats rockbox? |
| 06:18:19 | top_bloke | lol i kid |
| 06:18:26 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 06:18:35 | midknight2k3 | ER |
| 06:18:35 | midknight2k3 | DFAD |
| 06:18:48 | midknight2k3 | i learnt from epinions |
| 06:18:53 | midknight2k3 | i thank thy god |
| 06:18:59 | midknight2k3 | if thy exist. |
| 06:19:05 | top_bloke | me too i think |
| 06:19:06 | midknight2k3 | (or i just DFAD) |
| 06:19:12 | midknight2k3 | ;pj |
| 06:19:12 | midknight2k3 | htrs |
| 06:19:12 | midknight2k3 | 6u5 |
| 06:19:12 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
| 06:19:12 | midknight2k3 | hd |
| 06:19:12 | midknight2k3 | e |
| 06:19:12 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 06:19:12 | midknight2k3 | r |
| 06:19:15 | midknight2k3 | wasdf |
| 06:19:15 | top_bloke | i was looking up info on the archos |
| 06:19:16 | Sebulba02 | I stumbled across it somehow before I got mine. |
| 06:19:17 | midknight2k3 | qsdgr |
| 06:19:19 | midknight2k3 | j77wf |
| 06:19:24 | midknight2k3 | (i can get reckless at night) |
| 06:19:28 | top_bloke | and every post was like get rockbox |
| 06:19:29 | earHertz | Sebulba02, yeah, me too. |
| 06:19:29 | midknight2k3 | fdsdsff |
| 06:19:33 | midknight2k3 | LOL! |
| 06:19:35 | midknight2k3 | cmon KMD |
| 06:19:41 | midknight2k3 | AJHBREC |
| 06:19:45 | earHertz | midknight2k3, STFU |
| 06:19:46 | midknight2k3 | ear: you stink |
| 06:19:47 | Sebulba02 | /permiggyuntiltheendoftime midknight2k3 |
| 06:19:52 | top_bloke | yeah |
| 06:19:54 | midknight2k3 | superbulba: asdf |
| 06:20:00 | midknight2k3 | toopy: sdd1 |
| 06:20:16 | top_bloke | indeed |
| 06:20:18 | midknight2k3 | sry ears |
| 06:20:21 | midknight2k3 | im a bit tired |
| 06:20:30 | midknight2k3 | that was directed at [OFF]BtT |
| 06:20:48 | top_bloke | i gotta hit they hay |
| 06:20:50 | top_bloke | indeed u r |
| 06:20:50 | top_bloke | as am i |
| 06:20:58 | top_bloke | ? |
| 06:20:59 | midknight2k3 | NO YOU DONT |
| 06:21:06 | midknight2k3 | 6M 30S left |
| 06:21:10 | top_bloke | yaaaaaaawn |
| 06:21:23 | midknight2k3 | ears: why not earHurts |
| 06:21:24 | top_bloke | i'll just leave this POS pc on then |
| 06:21:30 | midknight2k3 | yawnnn indeed |
| 06:21:31 | top_bloke | with its loud ass fans |
| 06:21:36 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 06:21:36 | midknight2k3 | dont |
| 06:21:43 | midknight2k3 | sadf |
| 06:21:43 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 06:21:49 | top_bloke | why not |
| 06:21:50 | midknight2k3 | OLOLOL |
| 06:21:56 | midknight2k3 | im lmao |
| 06:22:03 | midknight2k3 | i must be exhausted if im laughing at your stupid joke |
| 06:22:10 | top_bloke | yeah |
| 06:22:11 | midknight2k3 | a haha |
| 06:22:14 | top_bloke | my jokes rule |
| 06:22:23 | midknight2k3 | they suck |
| 06:22:29 | midknight2k3 | ears! |
| 06:22:34 | midknight2k3 | why arent your nicks earhurts |
| 06:22:42 | top_bloke | well i gotta sleep anyway |
| 06:23:22 | midknight2k3 | WAIT |
| 06:23:25 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 06:23:29 | top_bloke | why |
| 06:23:29 | midknight2k3 | 88% |
| 06:23:34 | midknight2k3 | wstfa |
| 06:23:34 | midknight2k3 | wtfd |
| 06:23:34 | midknight2k3 | wtf |
| 06:23:37 | top_bloke | i cant wait 8 minutes |
| 06:23:41 | midknight2k3 | just.. YAWN... wait |
| 06:23:47 | midknight2k3 | yrs you can and you will |
| 06:23:57 | top_bloke | i'll leave the pc on |
| 06:24:01 | top_bloke | its fine |
| 06:24:03 | midknight2k3 | 1 4m 1377 |
| 06:24:08 | midknight2k3 | er 12444447 |
| 06:24:10 | midknight2k3 | 14337 |
| 06:24:25 | midknight2k3 | iotysw nmop6ty |
| 06:24:29 | midknight2k3 | its not* |
| 06:24:35 | top_bloke | ? |
| 06:24:41 | midknight2k3 | idei8o0t5 |
| 06:24:41 | top_bloke | god why not |
| 06:24:51 | midknight2k3 | just weawit |
| 06:25:05 | midknight2k3 | 17 more ins |
| 06:25:14 | top_bloke | 17 min? |
| 06:25:15 | midknight2k3 | cough |
| 06:25:24 | midknight2k3 | 5 min |
| 06:25:32 | top_bloke | i'll be dead by then |
| 06:26:15 | midknight2k3 | fluctiaodsfjkzgfgdhgsbdjflasfalhkasghgjfalsfdlgahlsardisfadb; gad;yngdui;sg;ilgdsnuidts;pisdgisp;iusgpi;usgyoi;sgoy;gsoygyirpiyspyiriogp wiotyoaieytiausydfuiasydfoiaysdifuyasoidyfoiausydfouiaysdoiufyaoisuyfoiuasydfoiuaydoixsfyasioufyaoiusyfiuasydoifuyasiofduyaiosufdiaousyfiouasdyfaiuosdyfiuoasydfoiuasydfoiu asdfyoasdfyasiyodfoiyfisyadyiafsdyifsyfosuyofudyusfdyufdyufdyufduyfoaiusdyfoiausydfoiuaysouifyaiosuydioaysdfiuoyaiosuydfioasydfiuasodfuiayoisud |
| 06:26:22 | midknight2k3 | ^^ thats good code |
| 06:26:22 | top_bloke | wtf |
| 06:26:32 | top_bloke | encrypted |
| 06:26:39 | midknight2k3 | good ,.,. coode |
| 06:26:46 | midknight2k3 | it sure is |
| 06:26:50 | top_bloke | i'm gonna go sleep for 5 min |
| 06:26:53 | top_bloke | and come back |
| 06:27:01 | midknight2k3 | NO NO |
| 06:27:05 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 06:27:05 | midknight2k3 | hurry |
| 06:27:06 | top_bloke | just 5 min |
| 06:27:15 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 06:29:13 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 06:31:20 | midknight2k3 | 3 mins |
| 06:31:28 | midknight2k3 | you TOUPPEr |
| 06:32:14 | midknight2k3 | 1 min! |
| 06:32:16 | midknight2k3 | about 600KB to go! |
| 06:32:24 | midknight2k3 | er make that 300 |
| 06:33:23 | top_bloke | it aint even done yet |
| 06:33:27 | top_bloke | slow |
| 06:33:30 | midknight2k3 | 30 secs |
| 06:33:32 | midknight2k3 | did you sleep |
| 06:33:47 | midknight2k3 | 6.03MB/6.04MB |
| 06:33:48 | top_bloke | yeah i got some real good shut eye |
| 06:33:49 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
| 06:33:49 | midknight2k3 | DOME |
| 06:34:55 | top_bloke | send some rvfs |
| 06:34:57 | top_bloke | while i unzip |
| 06:35:07 | midknight2k3 | sure |
| 06:36:44 | top_bloke | its tring to go somewhere |
| 06:37:14 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 06:37:15 | top_bloke | oh hell yeah it works |
| 06:37:44 | top_bloke | seems faster somehow |
| 06:37:50 | midknight2k3 | does it browsE? |
| 06:37:58 | midknight2k3 | it is |
| 06:37:58 | midknight2k3 | its FIREbird |
| 06:38:03 | top_bloke | yay |
| 06:38:57 | top_bloke | the icon is stupid |
| 06:39:06 | top_bloke | in the taskbar |
| 06:39:50 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 06:39:50 | top_bloke | but the interface is sweet otherwise |
| 06:39:54 | midknight2k3 | the flames? |
| 06:42:19 | midknight2k3 | lol |
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| 07:04:15 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 07:04:33 | midknight2k3 | Erik Is sleeping at Home |
| 07:04:33 | midknight2k3 | While Saddam is Sleepin' in an Drity Iraqi Jail...Justice Works!! |
| 07:04:37 | midknight2k3 | lolol |
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| 07:19:15 | midknight2k3 | whos around |
| 07:19:19 | midknight2k3 | and wants to see my eigen pic |
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| 07:20:57 | midknight2k3 | eary |
| 07:20:59 | midknight2k3 | cmere |
| 07:21:07 | midknight2k3 | wanna show you my pic i made |
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| 09:19:14 | midknight2k3 | i'm so tired |
| 09:19:50 | midknight2k3 | night all |
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| 11:16:23 | kurzhaarrocker | Do I see that right? There are hardly any functions for controlling the mas in the plugin api? |
| 11:18:32 | kurzhaarrocker | #seen zagor |
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| 11:23:51 | pokerjoker | hi |
| 11:23:58 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 11:24:04 | pokerjoker | hows it goin |
| 11:24:43 | kurzhaarrocker | #me wonders if anybody has used any playback / recording control functions in plugins |
| 11:25:39 | pokerjoker | i dont know |
| 11:26:02 | pokerjoker | i have a wierd problem, if i plug in a microphone and record mono |
| 11:26:23 | kurzhaarrocker | describe it |
| 11:26:47 | pokerjoker | when i listen to it thru the phones, i hear my voice thru the microphone amplified |
| 11:27:06 | pokerjoker | but when its played back, there is no sound recorded |
| 11:27:23 | pokerjoker | if i change the channels to Stereo, then the sound IS recorded, thru one speaker |
| 11:27:53 | kurzhaarrocker | The microphone is mono? |
| 11:28:02 | pokerjoker | yes |
| 11:28:51 | pokerjoker | mono plug in, Thru LINE IN |
| 11:29:50 | kurzhaarrocker | Try to plug it in only half the way. To me that seems to be a channel problem. A mono plug feeds the left channel only. If the mono recording is programmed to record the right channel only you record silence only. |
| 11:30:21 | pokerjoker | hmm. it will take me an hour to understand what you hav said! lol |
| 11:30:56 | kurzhaarrocker | I think that it's a bug in rockbox. |
| 11:31:12 | pokerjoker | in rockbox or in archos hardware |
| 11:31:54 | kurzhaarrocker | rockbox |
| 11:32:03 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 11:32:03 | * | kurzhaarrocker tries to reproduce the behaviour |
| 11:32:46 | pokerjoker | i think i undersand |
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| 11:33:24 | kurzhaarrocker | It's like this: a mono plug shortens the right channel of the line in. |
| 11:33:42 | kurzhaarrocker | Thus for mono recording the left channel must be used only. |
| 11:35:39 | pokerjoker | oh k. i see |
| 11:38:18 | pokerjoker | thanks man, i think im off to bed. see ya |
| 11:38:39 | kurzhaarrocker | hope the bugs dont bite... :) |
| 11:39:07 | kurzhaarrocker | I verified it: its true the when the right channel is shortened silence is recorded only |
| 11:39:10 | pokerjoker | hey man how old are you |
| 11:39:24 | kurzhaarrocker | 33. Why? |
| 11:39:52 | pokerjoker | most people here are young |
| 11:40:12 | kurzhaarrocker | Is 33 young or old? |
| 11:40:21 | pokerjoker | average. im 26 |
| 11:41:29 | pokerjoker | you design rockbox warez |
| 11:42:41 | kurzhaarrocker | If rockbox is warez or not - thats a hot topic. |
| 11:42:48 | kurzhaarrocker | Btw: You should enter this bug in the bug tracker or at least mention it on the mailing list :) |
| 11:42:49 | pokerjoker | why? |
| 11:43:07 | pokerjoker | why hot? |
| 11:43:45 | kurzhaarrocker | I don't see it as warez since the rockboxers don't really break anything or do damage to anybody. |
| 11:45:08 | pokerjoker | i see |
| 11:45:33 | pokerjoker | i mean wares |
| 11:45:38 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 11:48:25 | pokerjoker | i would like to post it, but i dont have enuff time or knowhow. maybe in a few weeks |
| 11:48:30 | pokerjoker | i have to sleep now. thanks for talking ! |
| 11:48:51 | kurzhaarrocker | dream pleasently |
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| 14:10:03 | * | kurzhaarrocker needs help |
| 14:10:05 | kurzhaarrocker | What about malloc in plugins? I've read in docs/API that there is malloc, but didn't find any code that uses it. Does malloc exist? |
| 14:13:02 | Sebulba02 | the C function, sure |
| 14:13:18 | Sebulba02 | man malloc , if you happen to be a linux user. |
| 14:14:41 | kurzhaarrocker | The problem is that rockbox generally doesn't support dynamical memory usage. There have been lots of discussions about that. One thought was that there - maybe - should be limited dynamic memory for plugins only. But I don't know what the state of this idea is right now. |
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| 14:32:19 | Sebulba02 | dunno.. |
| 14:32:48 | kurzhaarrocker | :( No Zagor, Linus or Badger around when needed |
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| 14:40:01 | ^^neo^^ | hey |
| 14:40:16 | ^^neo^^ | is it possbile to view pictures on rockbox ? |
| 14:40:39 | ^^neo^^ | movies works then pictures must work too |
| 14:41:08 | kurzhaarrocker | But for grayscale they must be encoded as video first. |
| 14:41:47 | kurzhaarrocker | I doubt that there are any viewers for standard image formats yet. |
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| 14:44:50 | ^^neo^^ | hm |
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| 14:45:11 | ^^neo^^ | du bist doch deutsch oder ? |
| 14:45:19 | kurzhaarrocker | jau. |
| 14:45:22 | ^^neo^^ | erklärs mir liever so |
| 14:45:24 | ^^neo^^ | :)= |
| 14:46:17 | kurzhaarrocker | Ich habe noch keinen Bildbetrachter für Standardbildformate auf rockbox gesehen. Um Graustufenbilder darstellen zu können müßte man ein Bild erst mal in ein Video konvertieren. |
| 14:46:43 | ^^neo^^ | und wie will man aus einem einzigen bild ein video machen ? |
| 14:47:23 | ^^neo^^ | oder meinst du das bild einfach als viedo machen und es dann als viedeo anzusehn? |
| 14:47:30 | kurzhaarrocker | Es geht darum die grauen Pixel "flackern" zu lassen, damit sie nicht ganz schwarz oder ganz weiß (grün) wirken. |
| 14:47:47 | ^^neo^^ | hmm aso |
| 14:47:56 | ^^neo^^ | das man es besser erkennt ? |
| 14:48:11 | ^^neo^^ | so wie im viedo mit 70fps |
| 14:48:17 | kurzhaarrocker | Sonst hat man halt keine Grautöne. Nur Schwarzweiß, ist doch doof. |
| 14:48:46 | ^^neo^^ | also das mit dem viedo is schon geil geht zwar net mit allen so gut aber respekt |
| 14:49:24 | ^^neo^^ | aber wieso ruckelt des net ? des lauft voll flüssig und sogar noch mit musik |
| 14:49:40 | ^^neo^^ | manchmal laufts sogar bissle zu schnell ( |
| 14:50:47 | kurzhaarrocker | Den wesenlichen Teil des Musikabspielens erledigt ja ein separater DSP. Das bißchen Datenfüttern kostet die Haupt CPU nicht so viel Brot. Und die Videos sind ja nun wirklich sehr klein mit 112*64 Pixeln. |
| 14:53:12 | ^^neo^^ | ja aber trotzdem also... ich finds einfach geil |
| 14:53:40 | kurzhaarrocker | Mal sehen wie lange es dauert, bis "Kann man den Empfäger des FM Recorders auch zum Fernsehempfang umprogrammieren?" in die NODOs aufgenommen wird. :) |
| 14:53:43 | ^^neo^^ | was kann man eigentlich noch aus der kiste raushohlen ??? viedeo is ja wohl der höhepunkt oder? |
| 14:53:54 | ^^neo^^ | lol |
| 14:57:22 | kurzhaarrocker | Ach, es gibt da noch sooo viel, was man tun kann. Denk mal an eine Verbindung mit einem GPS Empfänger mit riesiger Landkartendatenbank, oder Massendatenspeicher für alte DigiCams mit serieller Schnittstelle. |
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| 14:58:53 | Sebulba02 | um, yeah |
| 14:59:32 | kurzhaarrocker | oh, there's someone who doesn't speak german? :) |
| 14:59:48 | ^^neo^^ | kann ich eigentlich zb ein usb stick an den player schliesen und vond da sachen kopieren,geht net oder ?= |
| 14:59:56 | Sebulba02 | heh |
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| 15:01:05 | kurzhaarrocker | neo: Nein, das geht nicht, weil der ISD200 Chip, der für die USB Kommunikation im Archos steckt ausschließlich für die Kommunikation als Festplatte benutzt werden kann. |
| 15:01:53 | ^^neo^^ | und kann man vieleicht auch sound ins video packen? |
| 15:03:05 | ^^neo^^ | und wann kann man counter strike aufem player zoggn :)) nee joke |
| 15:03:25 | kurzhaarrocker | Sound mit Video ist mit geschickten Multiplexen wahrscheinlich möglich. |
| 15:05:05 | ^^neo^^ | aber jetzt wo man videos schaun kann is es doch auch möglich so ne art visualisierung zu machen im wps oder ? zb wie der oscillograph |
| 15:07:45 | kurzhaarrocker | Ja, bedingt. Man könnte den oscillograph auch ins wps verlagern. Das hatte ich damals jedoch verworfen, da man da normalerweise nur 8 Pixel (Zeilenhöhe Standardfont) zur Verfügung hätte. |
| 15:08:44 | kurzhaarrocker | Und im wps wäre er lange nicht so schnell, da der oscillograph eine spezielles hardwareunterstütztes Scrollen ausnutzt. |
| 15:08:59 | ^^neo^^ | hey kewl hab mir grad das heutige update gezogen und bemerkt das man im video jetzt pause machen kann und irgendwie mit den pfeiltasten kann man das bild schärfen stellen |
| 15:11:49 | ^^neo^^ | geht video eigentlich auch beim playerß |
| 15:11:50 | ^^neo^^ | ? |
| 15:12:08 | kurzhaarrocker | Nein, der hat kein graphisches Display. |
| 15:12:31 | ^^neo^^ | derb |
| 15:12:42 | ^^neo^^ | naja ^^ |
| 15:13:11 | ^^neo^^ | udn wieso is tetris von rechts nach links ? also das würd doch vom dislplay locker reinpassen |
| 15:13:50 | kurzhaarrocker | Die erste Variante war auch so, aber in größer läßt sich's wirklich besser spielen. |
| 15:14:35 | ^^neo^^ | hm |
| 15:14:55 | ^^neo^^ | aber das display wird doch gar nicht ganz ausgenutzt |
| 15:15:16 | kurzhaarrocker | Aber in dieser Größe paßt's nicht mehr hochkant rein. |
| 15:15:43 | ^^neo^^ | mom muss nochmna gucken |
| 15:16:31 | ^^neo^^ | also nur das feld wo man reinsetz das würde passen und das andre das die teile anzeigt muss dann nach rechts so wies es standard is |
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| 15:18:43 | kurzhaarrocker | Hi Dragon! You surely can answer my question: |
| 15:18:52 | kurzhaarrocker | What about malloc in plugins? I've read in docs/API that there is malloc, but didn't find any code that uses it. Does malloc exist? |
| 15:19:34 | [IDC]Dragon | plugin_get_buffer() |
| 15:19:58 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 15:20:00 | [IDC]Dragon | returns the rest of the 32KB not used by the plugin itself. |
| 15:20:34 | [IDC]Dragon | besides that, a plugin can't get memory. |
| 15:21:00 | [IDC]Dragon | It is planned that it can claim the mp3 buffer, thus interrupting playback. |
| 15:21:05 | kurzhaarrocker | but that doesn't include any memory management with malloc / free / realloc on those 32 kb? |
| 15:21:23 | [IDC]Dragon | no, you have to do all by yourself. |
| 15:21:42 | kurzhaarrocker | ok. |
| 15:22:22 | [IDC]Dragon | or define static arrays of the size you need. |
| 15:22:44 | kurzhaarrocker | .. which in turn consume my precious 32 kb I assume? |
| 15:22:58 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, same memory. |
| 15:23:23 | [IDC]Dragon | if you need larger static data, you can load it from disk. |
| 15:24:00 | Sebulba02 | thats gotta be slow |
| 15:24:19 | [IDC]Dragon | depends on what you do. |
| 15:24:54 | [IDC]Dragon | I think disk throughput is 1.5 MB/sec, not bad for the little CPU. |
| 15:25:18 | kurzhaarrocker | Yes, but the latency.. |
| 15:25:20 | Sebulba02 | not bad at all |
| 15:26:33 | kurzhaarrocker | Imagine buffering some of the peak values captuered by the MAS and storing them as a volume outline in an external file to be visualized synchonously while playing back... |
| 15:26:49 | kurzhaarrocker | Well, a solvalble problem, but not mine - for now. |
| 15:29:23 | [IDC]Dragon | this doesn't sound like you need a lot of memory |
| 15:30:18 | kurzhaarrocker | not really. And especially not much memory simultaniously. |
| 15:32:00 | kurzhaarrocker | I only asked for dynamic memory because of another topic: collecting some data about the files within a directory. Memorizing info about each file is a problem you usually solve with dynamic memory, if available. |
| 15:37:29 | kurzhaarrocker | Ah, I see: the buffer_size in plugin_get_buffer(int* buffer_size) returns the size of the buffer? |
| 15:37:50 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
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| 15:43:14 | kurzhaarrocker | someone of us seems to be smelly. |
| 15:43:36 | * | kurzhaarrocker sniffs his armpits |
| 15:44:00 | Sebulba02 | ewww, I can smell you all the way from here.. |
| 15:44:54 | * | kurzhaarrocker looks guiltily at the rest of the garlic pizza |
| 15:46:11 | Sebulba02 | mmm |
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| 16:00:59 | BoBB_ | okay i put rockbox on my archos yesterday, it worked for a little while, but now everytime i turn it on, it turns off before even loading the firmware |
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| 16:01:59 | BoBB | anyone have any problems like that before? |
| 16:05:25 | BoBB | thats wierd, its working now |
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| 16:09:42 | ^^neo^^ | hmm? |
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| 16:12:27 | BoBB | anyone else having problems with thier archos freezing and needing to be restarted to recover sound? |
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| 22:39:40 | kurzhaarrocker | Hi! |
| 22:40:39 | kurzhaarrocker | I assume it would be a break of design if I wanted to include apps/recorder/peakmeter.h in plugins.h ? |
| 22:41:35 | LinusN | yo! finally cut your hair? :-) |
| 22:41:59 | kurzhaarrocker | Yes. And it should be done again :) |
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| 22:43:00 | kurzhaarrocker | LinusN: How's your family? |
| 22:43:16 | LinusN | you want the peakmeter api available for plugins? |
| 22:43:25 | LinusN | kids are ok, wife is still bad |
| 22:43:55 | kurzhaarrocker | at least the db conversion. Could be useful in serveral plugins, the vu meter, the split editer (*cough*) |
| 22:44:23 | LinusN | maybe the mas polling as well? |
| 22:44:24 | kurzhaarrocker | Send her some cheer -up greetings from a rockboxer, please. |
| 22:44:31 | LinusN | i'll do that |
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| 22:46:01 | kurzhaarrocker | I'm not so sure about the mas polling. As long as there aren't concurrent peak readers it's fine as it is. |
| 22:46:31 | LinusN | the vu meters could use it instead of reading the mas itself |
| 22:46:46 | LinusN | hang on, i'll be back in a sec |
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| 22:47:51 | kurzhaarrocker | Oh! LinusN shrank to linus_ :) |
| 22:47:57 | linus_ | buah! |
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| 22:49:37 | LinusN | ahh |
| 22:49:52 | kurzhaarrocker | grown up again. |
| 22:50:00 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: can you try to dcc a small file to me? |
| 22:50:21 | kurzhaarrocker | What file do you mean? |
| 22:50:28 | LinusN | any file, as a test |
| 22:51:15 | kurzhaarrocker | should be on the way |
| 22:52:41 | LinusN | no luck.... |
| 22:52:49 | kurzhaarrocker | :( Firewalled? |
| 22:53:00 | LinusN | yeah, any clues? |
| 22:53:19 | * | kurzhaarrocker blushes and investigates his own personal firewall |
| 22:54:20 | kurzhaarrocker | I'll be back soon without walls - for a while... |
| 22:54:33 | LinusN | not sure it's your end |
| 22:55:49 | LinusN | wowee |
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| 22:56:33 | LinusN | wowee |
| 22:57:04 | Phil | Hi kurzhaarrocker! Do you know that you are me? |
| 22:57:54 | Phil | Which port does dcc use normally? |
| 22:58:12 | LinusN | my client has it configurable |
| 22:58:21 | LinusN | but i don't know the default |
| 22:59:28 | Phil | Hm. There's a setting for IDENT server. Never heared about that. |
| 22:59:42 | LinusN | hang on, i'll make another test |
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| 23:01:23 | LinusN | now dcc me again |
| 23:02:12 | LinusN | yippie |
| 23:02:31 | Phil | Which problem have you solved? |
| 23:03:01 | LinusN | people haven't been able to dcc me |
| 23:03:19 | LinusN | but now it looks like the problem is in their firewall |
| 23:03:27 | LinusN | i haven't changed a single setting |
| 23:03:41 | Phil | qed :) |
| 23:04:35 | LinusN | nice plugins btw :-) |
| 23:04:59 | Phil | don't work yet :( |
| 23:05:33 | Phil | btw: I chatted with someone who found a problem: the line inputs seem to be flipped. If you plug in a mono rca plug nothing gets recorded because the right channel is the mono source and is shortened. |
| 23:06:12 | LinusN | saw that in the logs |
| 23:06:26 | LinusN | so you mean that the left MAs channel is connected to the right pin? |
| 23:06:28 | Phil | Gosh! Some people really read logs! |
| 23:06:35 | Phil | yes |
| 23:06:40 | LinusN | gah |
| 23:07:07 | LinusN | have you noticed the channel swap earlier? |
| 23:07:35 | Phil | It seems to be flipped back again. What get's in left, gets out left again. |
| 23:07:53 | LinusN | you're kidding me |
| 23:08:33 | Phil | Not intentionally |
| 23:09:11 | LinusN | so, when you insert a "normal" RCA->3.5" cord, the mono channel is the red one? |
| 23:10:00 | Phil | Ah, I think Archos is famous for flipping those colours! At least the one I originally got with the jukebox _was_ flipped. |
| 23:10:15 | LinusN | doh |
| 23:11:00 | Phil | I just attached a signal to the tip of the line in and it apperaed on the left earphone. That's what I expected. |
| 23:12:55 | LinusN | but shorting the right pin disables the left as well? |
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| 23:13:26 | Phil | The signal is piped through, but not recorded |
| 23:13:37 | LinusN | aha |
| 23:16:04 | Phil | In mpeg.c #3101: shouldn't the channel copying happen whenever something is recorded in mono? |
| 23:18:17 | LinusN | maybe |
| 23:18:45 | LinusN | but it is a different thing |
| 23:19:03 | LinusN | it is still only the left channel that is encoded, afaik |
| 23:19:39 | * | Phil knows to little about the MAS without querying the data sheets |
| 23:20:02 | * | LinusN is browsing the data sheets |
| 23:21:45 | LinusN | but if you connect only the right channel, does it get recorded? |
| 23:22:12 | Phil | Yes. |
| 23:23:52 | LinusN | weirdo |
| 23:24:16 | LinusN | i remember hearing a report about this a long time ago |
| 23:24:51 | Phil | I wouldn't be surprised if there were units out there where the line in is the other way, too. At least in both my units they bypassed the etched wires with real wires. That's can be misconnected easily without notice. |
| 23:25:03 | LinusN | same here |
| 23:25:13 | LinusN | hehe |
| 23:28:36 | Phil | The API docs really are outdated. I had tears of joy in my eyes when I read about malloc, realloc and free in them. Imagine my disappointment when that soap bubble of a dream deflated. |
| 23:28:52 | LinusN | haha |
| 23:34:25 | earHertz | I am pissed off. |
| 23:34:35 | LinusN | earHertz: ? |
| 23:34:46 | * | Phil done nothin |
| 23:35:09 | earHertz | newmp3tech wants another $69 to repair my unit, even though it started malfunctioning 7 hours after I got it back from them. |
| 23:35:28 | LinusN | that's not nice |
| 23:35:50 | earHertz | admittedly, the flash rom is hosed too, but they're asserting that the problem was caused by "experimental" patches. |
| 23:36:02 | Phil | lol |
| 23:36:03 | LinusN | software patches? |
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| 23:36:36 | Sebulba02 | Ouch. |
| 23:36:37 | earHertz | I mentioned in my email that I had been using it heavily in those seven hours, to test my extended battery life patch. |
| 23:37:01 | earHertz | But that patch does nothing to cause shorts on a circuit board. |
| 23:38:17 | Phil | Did they tell you, what was/is broken? |
| 23:38:19 | Sebulba02 | Any excuse they can get.. |
| 23:40:09 | earHertz | The say they replaceed the the circuit board. |
| 23:42:06 | Phil | Probably they argue that you can't smell the burnt electronic because your experimental patches burnt it virtually. |
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| 23:42:33 | midknight2k3 | hii |
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| 23:42:44 | midknight2k3 | that new upside down thing is neat! |
| 23:43:21 | Sebulba02 | Heh |
| 23:43:35 | midknight2k3 | it is |
| 23:44:05 | Sebulba02 | I'm not disagreeing with you. |
| 23:44:08 | earHertz | Yeah. |
| 23:45:17 | Phil | Didn't the lcd thingie have an option to mirror the output, too? Might be useful, when you want to read the display in the reflections of the windscrenn of your car... |
| 23:45:48 | midknight2k3 | sure yeah |
| 23:48:03 | Phil | LinusN: About including peakmeter.h in plugin.h - Is that ok? Somehow it feels dirty to put something from the apps dir into the plugin api. |
| 23:50:15 | Sebulba02 | That can't be much harder than doing flipping it. |
| 23:51:19 | Phil | You mean mirroring the lcd? I'm pretty sure that I read that in the data sheets. |
| 23:52:53 | LinusN | Phil: i'm not sure i like including peakmeter.h as-is |
| 23:53:54 | LinusN | but still, we include a lot of other stuff... |
| 23:53:55 | midknight2k3 | I HAVE AN IDEA |
| 23:53:58 | Phil | What about transferring the db scaling into the mas code? |
| 23:54:05 | midknight2k3 | how about an animated flip screen? |
| 23:54:12 | midknight2k3 | when you pick "yes" it rotates around |
| 23:54:24 | midknight2k3 | not just flashes straight upside down |
| 23:54:24 | Phil | midknight2k3: AAARGH! |
| 23:54:49 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 23:54:53 | midknight2k3 | its a good iddea....? |
| 23:55:48 | LinusN | Phil: not mas.h, that's too low-level imho, but mpeg.h may be better |
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| 23:56:05 | midknight2k3 | linus? |
| 23:56:08 | midknight2k3 | like my idea? |
| 23:56:12 | earHertz | the flip screen must do it in code written to take advantage of flip's layout |
| 23:56:17 | Phil | I have that other idea: link two recorders with a serial cable for synchronization and let them play the same movie from a different angle. With polarized glazes you can watch the movies in 3d |
| 23:56:25 | earHertz | it's not a general-purpose solution in all likely-hhod |
| 23:56:30 | LinusN | it's cool of course, but i don't see the real benefit |
| 23:56:36 | midknight2k3 | like my idea?linus: my idea? |
| 23:56:37 | Sebulba02 | midknight2k3: how about having it somemway figure out how your viewing it and have it automatically flip the screen.. |
| 23:56:42 | Sebulba02 | someway* |
| 23:56:49 | midknight2k3 | no. |
| 23:57:00 | midknight2k3 | its not that crazy! just a nice touch |
| 23:57:02 | midknight2k3 | cant be that hard |
| 23:57:43 | LinusN | not hard, just unnecessary :-) |
| 23:58:03 | midknight2k3 | but its nice |
| 23:58:09 | midknight2k3 | itd takke just like one line of code |
| 23:58:09 | Phil | LinusN: I think I'll move the code to mpeg.h then. |
| 23:58:13 | midknight2k3 | maybe 10 |
| 23:58:15 | midknight2k3 | but still |
| 23:58:58 | Phil | midknight2k3: do you have to flip the code then, too? |
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