00:00:02 | kurzhaarrocker | You need a recursive tape for that. |
00:00:08 | midknight2k3 | http://eeggs.com/tree/7915.html |
00:00:09 | Bluechip | kurz: it may be possible, never actually tried, but would it not be easier to add the calls you require to the the plugin-code |
00:00:13 | midknight2k3 | I SUBMITTED THAT EASTER EGG |
00:00:14 | midknight2k3 | http://eeggs.com/tree/7915.html |
00:00:14 | midknight2k3 | http://eeggs.com/tree/7915.html |
00:00:14 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
00:00:14 | midknight2k3 | http://eeggs.com/tree/7915.html |
00:00:20 | midknight2k3 | have a look |
00:00:23 | midknight2k3 | WOO |
00:00:33 | arspy87 | *clicks strange repetitive blue lettering* |
00:00:34 | midknight2k3 | 8.3 / 10 thumbs up\ |
00:00:56 | arspy87 | nice, midk |
00:01:03 | midknight2k3 | 8.3 |
00:01:06 | kurzhaarrocker | blue: that's a question of design. I need code from apps/recorder/peakmeter.c And I don't think it should be in the general api. Only code from firmware. |
00:01:07 | midknight2k3 | thats a HIGH rating |
00:01:11 | midknight2k3 | bet im in the top 25 eggs |
00:01:16 | midknight2k3 | ill check |
00:01:28 | midknight2k3 | ohh |
00:01:30 | midknight2k3 | most popular |
00:01:34 | midknight2k3 | not most high rating |
00:01:35 | Bluechip | kurz: ahh, just replied to your posting |
00:01:48 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
00:01:48 | * | kurzhaarrocker reads |
00:02:28 | arspy87 | someone: can anybody point me to the distinguishes between c and c++ |
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00:03:04 | Bluechip | ars: LOL - you in for a shock dude |
00:03:17 | Bluechip | object orientation is like you've never seen before |
00:03:17 | midknight2k3 | ars - i like that |
00:03:18 | midknight2k3 | kik |
00:03:21 | midknight2k3 | lol* |
00:03:24 | midknight2k3 | hey ars |
00:03:33 | arspy87 | i am learning c++ currently |
00:03:44 | arspy87 | if i were to write c code what are the things that i cant use |
00:03:44 | kurzhaarrocker | blue: the vu meter uses the the MAS functions directly. That's why it doesn't have db scaling. For db scaling the vu meter could take advantage of peakmeter, too. |
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00:04:02 | Bluechip | spy: remove all objects and use printf instead of cout |
00:04:35 | arspy87 | ok, so it's printf << "text" instead of std::cout << "text"? |
00:04:48 | arspy87 | darn emotes |
00:05:09 | Bluechip | kurz: I suggest you have two options then ...clone the code or improve the plugin interface :) |
00:05:24 | arspy87 | what about cin for input? is that replaced? |
00:05:34 | Bluechip | no printf(qualifier,variables, ...); |
00:05:51 | arspy87 | ahhh |
00:05:52 | arspy87 | bad |
00:06:01 | Sebulba02 | Whats bad about printf? |
00:06:04 | arspy87 | can't comprehend differnt syntax.... |
00:06:13 | Bluechip | type "man printf" into google :) |
00:06:36 | arspy87 | good idea |
00:06:47 | Bluechip | (VERY cute feature of google is a clone of the unix MANual) |
00:06:55 | kurzhaarrocker | blue: code cloning is not an option. Improving the plugin interface to solve this dilemma might be to establish a second api pointer for the stuff in apps. Doesn't feel good either. |
00:06:58 | Bluechip | (kettle) brb |
00:07:26 | arspy87 | so how would i print stuff to the screen with printf? |
00:07:42 | kurzhaarrocker | just say printf("hello world"); |
00:07:44 | arspy87 | and wait, objects = ? sorry ive only made it to chapter 4 of c++ for dummies |
00:07:49 | arspy87 | ah, thank you |
00:08:07 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
00:08:14 | midknight2k3 | i got 1 second recorded before it stopped this time |
00:08:22 | arspy87 | oh really, midk |
00:08:28 | midknight2k3 | at this rate only about 60*60*2.5 |
00:08:32 | midknight2k3 | like ... |
00:08:34 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
00:08:46 | kurzhaarrocker | the trick is the format strings: printf("%d + %d = %d", 1, 2, 1 + 2); prints 1 + 2 = 3 |
00:08:52 | midknight2k3 | 9000 more seconds to record |
00:09:18 | arspy87 | youll be up for a while midk |
00:09:20 | midknight2k3 | add in about an extra 3000 for bad timed "RECORD" pressed |
00:09:30 | midknight2k3 | and a few extras also for when the screen dims |
00:09:34 | midknight2k3 | id say about 15000 total |
00:10:04 | arspy87 | so what things are object in c++? brb getting our the reference for the rest of us |
00:10:08 | midknight2k3 | hhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmm |
00:10:10 | arspy87 | out* |
00:10:45 | midknight2k3 | YREAH!~~!!!! |
00:10:53 | midknight2k3 | NO LINES WHEN RECORDING FROM SCREEN |
00:11:01 | midknight2k3 | maybe a good idea after all! |
00:12:17 | arspy87 | objects in c++ = arrays, , i/o streams, pointers, etc? |
00:12:51 | kurzhaarrocker | arspy: as soon as you have a class of a struct with functions in it it's the definition of an object. |
00:13:03 | arspy87 | oooh, ok i get it now |
00:13:13 | kurzhaarrocker | replace the first of with or, please |
00:13:21 | arspy87 | k |
00:13:38 | Bluechip | kurz: hmmm, what other options are available? |
00:13:38 | Bluechip | spy: if you cannot program in C, learn C BEFORE you try to learn C++ (imho) |
00:13:53 | arspy87 | i'd so never eb able to learn that, learned only object-oriented languages so far |
00:14:13 | Bluechip | if you cannot handle C, then C++ is braced to eat you alive |
00:14:28 | Sebulba02 | I dunno about that. |
00:14:39 | kurzhaarrocker | I doubt that, too. |
00:14:43 | arspy87 | i've got 2 books, lol. one of them doesnt recommend learning c first. and the other says it doesnt matter lol |
00:14:44 | Bluechip | c++ is C with objects and not a lot more |
00:14:45 | midknight2k3 | good ok took a small clip |
00:14:48 | midknight2k3 | ill try to convert it |
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00:15:20 | Sebulba02 | Uh, quite a bit more. It gives you memory allocation |
00:15:23 | kurzhaarrocker | bluechip: no. Object orientet programming is a style |
00:15:32 | glytch | i hear there is mpg playing in rockbox now ? |
00:15:41 | midknight2k3 | glytch: videos, yes |
00:15:43 | midknight2k3 | rvf format |
00:15:51 | midknight2k3 | you can convert to rvf from avi |
00:15:56 | midknight2k3 | not mpeg |
00:16:02 | arspy87 | avi = mpg |
00:16:07 | arspy87 | you can just change the extension |
00:16:11 | glytch | damn... thats awsome |
00:16:18 | midknight2k3 | as: uhh |
00:16:21 | midknight2k3 | thats asf and wmv |
00:16:22 | Bluechip | Kurz: sorry dude, don't do the OO debate - i understand both views and am not prepared to limit myself to one level of understanding |
00:16:22 | glytch | seems like ogg playing isn't so impossible anymore... (: |
00:16:24 | arspy87 | ive done it, lol |
00:16:34 | kurzhaarrocker | blue ok |
00:16:34 | midknight2k3 | iirc |
00:17:12 | arspy87 | ogg = really nice |
00:17:24 | arspy87 | especially on a portable |
00:17:34 | kurzhaarrocker | glytch: ogg is impossible. |
00:17:42 | glytch | kurzhaarrocker, absolutely no hope? |
00:17:44 | arspy87 | wont tha require too much processor? |
00:17:46 | arspy87 | (ogg) |
00:17:47 | Bluechip | kurz: never say impossible |
00:18:16 | midknight2k3 | as: yes |
00:18:19 | kurzhaarrocker | Read the nodos. No ogg with rockbox. Can't work. |
00:18:29 | midknight2k3 | kurz: are you positive of that? |
00:18:40 | Sebulba02 | heh |
00:18:41 | arspy87 | is it all taht fixed point vs floating point yuckiness with ogg encoding? |
00:18:42 | Bluechip | kurz: the nodo needs updating |
00:18:49 | arspy87 | = more cpu usage required |
00:19:04 | Bluechip | what about the onboard programmable DSP? |
00:19:04 | kurzhaarrocker | blue: what info do I miss then? |
00:19:06 | glytch | i bet there is a way... |
00:19:14 | arspy87 | what about low bitrate ogg? |
00:19:15 | Bluechip | the programming docs for the MAS |
00:19:23 | glytch | peopled tried floating point emulation ? |
00:19:58 | kurzhaarrocker | Blue it's not the programming docs, it's a problem of the huge tables that don't fit into the memory of the MAS |
00:20:12 | arspy87 | arent portables fixed? so ogg would take too much to decode |
00:20:18 | Bluechip | depends what functions are already supplied |
00:20:19 | arspy87 | thus why it always kills battery life |
00:20:25 | midknight2k3 | i bet its possible to do ogg if we both flash rockbox enabling >200KB firmware and also deleting every feature available (plugins, lineselector, etc) |
00:20:39 | kurzhaarrocker | The programming docs _might_ enable wav playback at low quality though. |
00:20:50 | midknight2k3 | and then make a NO FRILLS TOTALLY UNFRILLY 500KB firmwrae for ogg |
00:21:04 | arspy87 | you cant go above 200kb for rockbox? |
00:21:05 | Bluechip | I must say, that I feel ogg *is* unlikely, but I will not go so far as to risk my reputation on saying "impossible" |
00:21:10 | midknight2k3 | nope |
00:21:18 | kurzhaarrocker | midknight: the memory of the MAS is in the MAS and has nothing to do with the memory rockbox is in |
00:21:19 | midknight2k3 | blue: right on |
00:21:28 | midknight2k3 | kurz: what? |
00:21:35 | midknight2k3 | archos doesnt allow >200KB firmware |
00:21:36 | midknight2k3 | period |
00:21:40 | midknight2k3 | unless you flash it |
00:22:33 | kurzhaarrocker | the MAS has it's own memory. The SH1 has its own memory. The MAS can not use the memory of the cpu. |
00:22:33 | midknight2k3 | nothing to do with the MAS |
00:22:33 | arspy87 | oh |
00:22:35 | Bluechip | hence the introduction of the plugin system L) |
00:22:48 | midknight2k3 | kurz: i dont think you're getting my point |
00:24:09 | arspy87 | how much space would ogg require? |
00:24:21 | Bluechip | depends on what is not there already |
00:24:23 | kurzhaarrocker | midk: I don't even get where I lost your point. |
00:24:35 | midknight2k3 | kurz: good |
00:25:45 | arspy87 | why doesnt the archos allow more than 200kb fw, is it a ram issue? |
00:25:54 | kurzhaarrocker | arspy: I think the ogg tables require ~400 kb. I might be wrong though. |
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00:25:55 | Bluechip | firmware issue afaik |
00:26:38 | Bluechip | HEYYYY :) the wim has stopped GPFing :) |
00:26:42 | Bluechip | *sim |
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00:30:29 | earHertz | It's not a memory issue (although more code means less mpeg buffer means more disk reads means shorter battery life), it's anArchos loader issue. |
00:30:40 | earHertz | Archos won't load > ~204KB |
00:30:51 | midknight2k3 | >200 ear |
00:31:03 | earHertz | whatever |
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00:31:22 | arspy87 | back, sorry guys computer crashed |
00:31:28 | midknight2k3 | SDD YOUR FACE |
00:31:39 | arspy87 | sorry midk lol |
00:31:44 | kurzhaarrocker | earHertz: but wouldn't it be able to overcome that issue now that the bootloader is done by rockbox, too? |
00:32:03 | earHertz | Yeah, theorretically. |
00:32:13 | midknight2k3 | kurz: RIGHT |
00:32:23 | earHertz | But you'd have to load a normal size rockbox and have it load oyur bigger one. |
00:32:25 | midknight2k3 | which is WHAT I WAS SAYING when you started to talk about MAS memory |
00:32:28 | kurzhaarrocker | Even if not: the tables could be loaded from disk after boot. |
00:32:30 | midknight2k3 | thats where you lost me |
00:32:36 | midknight2k3 | ear: no |
00:32:38 | earHertz | But do you need code space or data space? |
00:32:47 | midknight2k3 | withour own bootloader we could overcome the issue outright |
00:33:03 | earHertz | only if it were our bootloader in flash rom |
00:33:12 | midknight2k3 | RIGHT |
00:33:13 | midknight2k3 | it is |
00:33:15 | midknight2k3 | when you flash |
00:33:18 | kurzhaarrocker | midk: this still doesn't solve the problem that we can't put the data anywhere where the MAS chip could access the data. |
00:33:19 | midknight2k3 | there is no need for multi loading |
00:33:35 | midknight2k3 | sure, but if we had a good algo worked out in our >200kb fw it could happen |
00:34:13 | earHertz | tell me, why do you think archos decodes mp3s on the mas rather than on the sh1? |
00:34:21 | kurzhaarrocker | midk: no the MAS chip doesn't have address and data wires to the ram chip that is used for flash / ram. It uses its own internal memory. |
00:34:33 | Bluechip | comms is via i2c |
00:34:34 | midknight2k3 | and thats all it uses for decoding? |
00:34:41 | midknight2k3 | but we can put what we want there. |
00:34:46 | Bluechip | no addr bus |
00:34:48 | midknight2k3 | so we can do a software decoder |
00:35:04 | earHertz | midknight2k3, I repeat, tell me, why do you think archos decodes mp3s on the mas rather than on the sh1? |
00:35:07 | kurzhaarrocker | erHertz: thats why the MAS chip is in the thing it is the codec dsp |
00:35:14 | earHertz | the sh1 is 12mHz |
00:35:19 | Bluechip | 4kx20bits of "coefficient" memory and 4Kx20bits of code space |
00:35:22 | midknight2k3 | because the mas is built for it! |
00:35:24 | earHertz | too slow |
00:35:31 | arspy87 | brb dinner. |
00:35:36 | kurzhaarrocker | especially with fix point arithmetic |
00:35:39 | midknight2k3 | right. but with the larger firmware its possssible |
00:35:55 | Bluechip | the MAS chip is the MP3 codec |
00:36:05 | midknight2k3 | back in a few |
00:36:45 | kurzhaarrocker | bluechip: and in these 4Kx20bits you can not stuff 400 kb ogg tables. |
00:37:15 | Bluechip | is that the only way of doing it? bummer! |
00:37:23 | kurzhaarrocker | yes |
00:37:27 | Bluechip | impossible to optimise the ogg code! damn |
00:37:53 | Bluechip | and zero useful functions built into the mas too - that's not helpful |
00:38:26 | Bluechip | I has preeviously guessed that the MAS would have all the primary transforms available to the codec |
00:38:37 | Bluechip | codec->ram-code |
00:38:42 | kurzhaarrocker | There might be some useful functions. Maybe even functions that could help decompressing jpgs or something. |
00:38:54 | Bluechip | that's in interesting thought |
00:40:11 | kurzhaarrocker | unfortunately ogg decoding not only requires the functions, but those large tables, too. |
00:40:43 | Bluechip | it's all a matter of whether they can be optimised, or even generated on the fly somehow |
00:41:08 | Bluechip | bwt wouldn't be much use, but the principle is sound |
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00:42:51 | Bluechip | how do I get to see the post processor output for my code? |
00:43:19 | * | kurzhaarrocker scratches his head |
00:43:27 | kurzhaarrocker | never tried to |
00:43:41 | Bluechip | bug of weirdness in the sim - looks really simple - but CAN I FIND IT??? |
00:43:49 | Bluechip | nooooo |
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00:46:07 | arspy87 | back |
00:46:53 | arspy87 | *checks to see what he missed* |
00:47:34 | arspy87 | i still wonder why ogg is encoded with floating point |
00:47:44 | arspy87 | not very optimized for portable devices |
00:48:15 | Bluechip | accuracy |
00:48:26 | Sebulba02 | Better that way. |
00:48:43 | arspy87 | ? |
00:49:13 | Sebulba02 | Floating point accuracy |
00:49:37 | arspy87 | isnt that what requires more cpu usage compared to mp3 or whatever? |
00:54:44 | earHertz | yes, if floating point is emulated in software |
00:55:03 | arspy87 | which is true for portable devices, no? |
00:55:10 | earHertz | yes and no if you have a hardware floating point unit, as Pentiums |
00:55:13 | kurzhaarrocker | depends on the processor |
00:55:18 | arspy87 | on ARM7's |
00:55:23 | arspy87 | there isnt one |
00:55:33 | earHertz | arspy87, we don't even support floating point at all in Rockbox, iirc |
00:55:51 | earHertz | no flots, no doubles |
00:55:56 | earHertz | floats, even |
00:56:07 | arspy87 | oh i know, i'm just inquiring |
00:56:14 | Bluechip | recall comments of Jo"rg mentioning some FP stuff at some point during the video stuff |
00:56:28 | arspy87 | got off ona tangent with myself and ogg, lol |
00:58:37 | arspy87 | what cpu is in the archos? |
00:58:46 | Bluechip | sh-1 |
00:59:14 | arspy87 | no floating point unit on it? |
00:59:19 | kurzhaarrocker | no |
00:59:32 | arspy87 | know if theres floating pt unit on ARM7's? |
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01:01:14 | kurzhaarrocker | I don't know |
01:02:22 | kurzhaarrocker | floating point arithmetic can be emulated. But that is slow and uses memory. Generally there's no need for floating point in rockbox since all the floating point things are done by the MAS |
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01:02:49 | midknight2k3 | hey all |
01:02:50 | arspy87 | wb midk |
01:02:56 | arspy87 | you missed the heated discussion |
01:03:00 | midknight2k3 | on what |
01:03:11 | arspy87 | ogg, floating point accuracy, and ARM7 processors |
01:03:16 | midknight2k3 | i was here |
01:03:17 | midknight2k3 | for that |
01:03:21 | arspy87 | now i have a headache, lol |
01:03:27 | arspy87 | no, thre was more, |
01:03:56 | arspy87 | anyway |
01:04:01 | midknight2k3 | whatever. |
01:05:00 | * | kurzhaarrocker beats everybody who doesn't understand his argumentation with a smelly large trout |
01:05:10 | * | midknight2k3 slaps kurzhaarrocker around a bit with a large trout |
01:05:27 | * | arspy87 slaps midk with an old iPod |
01:05:44 | arspy87 | sory, couldnt resist |
01:05:45 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:06:07 | arspy87 | kurz: i understand |
01:06:15 | midknight2k3 | i dont |
01:07:18 | arspy87 | midk: did you get your analog clock in rb yet? |
01:07:37 | midknight2k3 | no.. linusn wants a second hand |
01:07:43 | midknight2k3 | and rb wont compile |
01:07:45 | arspy87 | makes sense |
01:07:47 | midknight2k3 | so ... yeah |
01:07:49 | midknight2k3 | sure it does |
01:07:54 | midknight2k3 | but if i cant compile it doesnt |
01:08:03 | arspy87 | gets errors? |
01:08:08 | Bluechip | whats the problem mk |
01:08:11 | midknight2k3 | correct |
01:08:19 | midknight2k3 | some stdin #endif without #if |
01:08:40 | arspy87 | so put in an #if somewhere, lol |
01:08:49 | midknight2k3 | as: where? |
01:08:51 | midknight2k3 | can you tell me? |
01:08:53 | arspy87 | no idea |
01:08:58 | midknight2k3 | ok then |
01:09:11 | earHertz | email me you code, midknight2k3 |
01:09:11 | Bluechip | sned me the offending code |
01:09:13 | midknight2k3 | anyone else have any ideas? |
01:09:14 | Bluechip | lol |
01:09:18 | midknight2k3 | blue: i could fix it |
01:09:22 | arspy87 | #if (!plugin_ok) lcd_update(); |
01:09:24 | midknight2k3 | the problem is i cant find it |
01:09:27 | arspy87 | dont you have that? |
01:09:31 | midknight2k3 | wtf are you talking about as |
01:09:34 | arspy87 | never mind |
01:09:35 | arspy87 | lol |
01:10:00 | midknight2k3 | bc: i could fix it but it just says stdin |
01:10:06 | midknight2k3 | there is no stdin file |
01:10:18 | earHertz | stdin is what the linker is reading |
01:10:21 | Bluechip | what is the precise and full error |
01:10:28 | earHertz | stdin is the filestream out of teh compiler |
01:10:31 | midknight2k3 | ear: you said that |
01:10:35 | midknight2k3 | and WHERE can i fix this? |
01:11:02 | earHertz | Look, the linker is saying, I read my input and I found an #if withoutt a corresponding #endif |
01:11:17 | midknight2k3 | ear: i get the error! |
01:11:20 | midknight2k3 | what is it with you people |
01:11:20 | earHertz | You need to look in your .rock's code |
01:11:25 | midknight2k3 | I KNOW WHAT AN ENDIF IS |
01:11:27 | * | kurzhaarrocker is tired and drops into his bed |
01:11:28 | midknight2k3 | and ITS NOT IN MY PLUGIN |
01:11:39 | midknight2k3 | STDIN! S. T. D. I. N. IS WHERE ITS AT! |
01:11:41 | arspy87 | night kurz |
01:11:44 | midknight2k3 | does that make sense? |
01:11:50 | earHertz | what other changes have you made beyond your plugin? |
01:11:58 | midknight2k3 | none. |
01:12:00 | Bluechip | lol |
01:12:07 | midknight2k3 | /rockbox/lib/gcc-lib/sh-elf/3.0.4/../../../../sh-elf/bin/ld:/home/rockbox/finalc |
01:12:07 | midknight2k3 | lock6/build/linkage.lds:69: parse error |
01:12:24 | midknight2k3 | GREAT. line 69 error, AGAIN |
01:12:26 | earHertz | if you move your oplugin to another directory, will rockbox compile and link? |
01:12:34 | midknight2k3 | it wont compile EVER |
01:12:37 | midknight2k3 | are you listening |
01:12:45 | midknight2k3 | it doesnt get NEAR the plugins before it sprouts an error |
01:12:51 | arspy87 | whats on line 69 |
01:12:59 | midknight2k3 | } |
01:13:04 | midknight2k3 | happened last time |
01:13:08 | arspy87 | the line above? |
01:13:16 | Bluechip | mk, don't ask for advice and then refuse to try the things suggested, or people will feel that they are being ignored and go away ;) |
01:13:29 | midknight2k3 | its not a suggestion |
01:13:30 | earHertz | Bluechip, makes a good point |
01:13:38 | midknight2k3 | you cant suggest fixing something that doesnt exist |
01:13:46 | midknight2k3 | if you do then i want you to go away indeed |
01:13:55 | Bluechip | did you try eh's specific suggestion? |
01:14:04 | midknight2k3 | listen carefully. error in linkage.lds. no where near the plug in. |
01:14:10 | midknight2k3 | that was what? |
01:14:14 | midknight2k3 | "fix the error"? |
01:14:14 | arspy87 | what is on line 68? |
01:14:20 | midknight2k3 | as: ITS } |
01:14:25 | arspy87 | no, line 68 the one above |
01:14:50 | Bluechip | well, dude, if you fancy trying the EH suggestion (which is imho a good test), let me know what, if anything, changes |
01:14:56 | midknight2k3 | inbuf = .; |
01:15:02 | midknight2k3 | blue: WHAT IS THE SUGGESTION |
01:15:16 | Bluechip | ^^^ |
01:15:19 | earHertz | midknight2k3, in your build dir, rm *.o linkage.lds |
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01:16:37 | midknight2k3 | done |
01:16:54 | earHertz | now make |
01:16:59 | midknight2k3 | am doing |
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01:18:04 | midknight2k3 | the features list isnt very good |
01:18:09 | midknight2k3 | hi linusn |
01:18:25 | midknight2k3 | ear: back to the <stdin>:190:2: #endif without #if error |
01:18:42 | midknight2k3 | and, er, where did you propose we fix stdin? wasnt it my rock file? |
01:18:57 | earHertz | ok, look, in your roc .c and .h and see if you have any #if s |
01:19:11 | Bluechip | can you compile a clean source code install? |
01:19:12 | midknight2k3 | ear: we havent even got close to the rock file |
01:19:17 | midknight2k3 | blue: no |
01:19:20 | midknight2k3 | thats the point |
01:19:22 | arspy87 | do you have a corresponding if to the endif? |
01:19:27 | midknight2k3 | it doesnt come close to the rock |
01:19:31 | Bluechip | then your problem is with your compiler installation |
01:19:33 | midknight2k3 | as: thats not the issue! |
01:19:42 | arspy87 | kk |
01:19:50 | earHertz | midknight2k3, that is precisely the issue |
01:19:55 | arspy87 | yay |
01:20:00 | midknight2k3 | forget it |
01:20:06 | midknight2k3 | second hand isnt coming anytime soon |
01:20:08 | Bluechip | forget what? |
01:20:13 | arspy87 | actually midk is probably right considering im pretty amateur at this stuff |
01:20:19 | midknight2k3 | the clock |
01:20:26 | * | midknight2k3 rubs head |
01:20:34 | arspy87 | midk can you send it to me? |
01:20:39 | earHertz | midknight2k3, I've offered to have you mail it to me. |
01:20:46 | midknight2k3 | as: were you listening? |
01:20:47 | midknight2k3 | NO NO NO! |
01:20:55 | midknight2k3 | IT is not getting close to the ROCKS YET |
01:20:58 | midknight2k3 | it isnt a faulty ROCK! |
01:21:07 | Bluechip | no, its a faulty cywin installation |
01:21:13 | midknight2k3 | is bluechip invisible to you all? |
01:21:20 | midknight2k3 | hes already stated the problem |
01:21:26 | Bluechip | you wanna working dev kit? |
01:21:30 | * | midknight2k3 tears hair out |
01:21:31 | LinusN | midknight2k3: i compiled rockbox with cygwin yesterday without problems |
01:21:32 | midknight2k3 | no thx |
01:21:33 | earHertz | ok. |
01:21:38 | midknight2k3 | linus: my fault |
01:21:46 | earHertz | and I did it wednesday |
01:21:57 | midknight2k3 | like i just said, it is my fault |
01:22:07 | midknight2k3 | if you didnt hear bluechip the three times he said it, it's a faulty cygwin |
01:22:16 | midknight2k3 | faulty cygwin |
01:22:17 | midknight2k3 | faulty cygwin |
01:22:18 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
01:22:18 | midknight2k3 | faulty cygwin |
01:22:28 | LinusN | midknight2k3: how come? |
01:22:35 | midknight2k3 | no idea |
01:22:50 | midknight2k3 | is it worth attempting to implement? |
01:22:58 | midknight2k3 | i'll do it all if it's worth it |
01:23:13 | midknight2k3 | i doubt its got a point.. the bounce code already has a clock |
01:23:24 | earHertz | SO REINSTALL CYGWIN |
01:23:31 | midknight2k3 | ear: i will |
01:23:35 | Bluechip | i have a one click solution here |
01:23:38 | midknight2k3 | no need to reiterate |
01:23:40 | earHertz | I did that a week or so aago |
01:23:45 | Bluechip | sorry, wont offer again |
01:23:46 | midknight2k3 | calm down |
01:23:49 | midknight2k3 | blue: what? |
01:24:03 | midknight2k3 | i was aiming "no need to reiterate" at earhertz |
01:24:07 | Bluechip | ah |
01:24:12 | earHertz | ah |
01:24:15 | midknight2k3 | :\.. whats your idea? |
01:24:17 | arspy87 | ah |
01:25:51 | arspy87 | cygwin, is that a command line compiler? |
01:26:01 | midknight2k3 | cygwin.com |
01:26:07 | arspy87 | ty |
01:26:13 | midknight2k3 | bluechip |
01:26:15 | midknight2k3 | what was your idea? |
01:26:47 | Bluechip | ^^^ |
01:26:59 | midknight2k3 | i have a one click solution here. |
01:27:08 | Bluechip | that was the reiteration |
01:27:08 | midknight2k3 | what you said |
01:27:12 | midknight2k3 | of.... |
01:27:34 | midknight2k3 | ..what? |
01:28:31 | arspy87 | i still think you need to see if you have a correstponding #if statement |
01:28:43 | midknight2k3 | as: you're WAY behind |
01:28:50 | arspy87 | sorry :-/ |
01:28:54 | midknight2k3 | i suggest you read from 50 lines up, to present |
01:29:10 | arspy87 | i did sorta, but im practically falling asleep |
01:29:19 | Bluechip | type "^^^" it's quicker −− lol |
01:29:28 | midknight2k3 | but less accurate |
01:29:35 | midknight2k3 | can you reiterate bluechip |
01:30:02 | arspy87 | cant you do something like 50x^ ? |
01:30:10 | midknight2k3 | no |
01:30:18 | midknight2k3 | thats what KARMA users do |
01:30:19 | arspy87 | would be more accurate |
01:30:25 | Bluechip | i said something about having a dev kit for you and you said something about people ignoring me - LOL |
01:30:29 | arspy87 | oh is the karma being brought into this now? lol |
01:30:51 | midknight2k3 | as: if you want it to be |
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01:30:58 | arspy87 | lol |
01:31:05 | midknight2k3 | bc: that was about 15 lines later |
01:31:14 | midknight2k3 | earhertz and as weren't following you |
01:31:18 | arspy87 | karma is very innocent in this matter imo |
01:31:24 | midknight2k3 | sure |
01:31:28 | midknight2k3 | as it cannot be programmed |
01:31:32 | midknight2k3 | stuck with original firmware |
01:31:38 | arspy87 | true |
01:31:40 | midknight2k3 | no point in discussing |
01:31:59 | arspy87 | in terms of open source, you are correct mr knight |
01:32:11 | midknight2k3 | even in non open source |
01:32:21 | midknight2k3 | the archos can be "programmed" by non programmers |
01:32:24 | midknight2k3 | custom wps' |
01:32:38 | arspy87 | interesting |
01:32:40 | midknight2k3 | no need to touch the source to have a customized firmware |
01:32:46 | midknight2k3 | playing screen |
01:33:16 | arspy87 | no possible programmable on the karma anyway which stinks, but id be awful at it anyway |
01:33:17 | midknight2k3 | very |
01:33:27 | midknight2k3 | you'd be, but would others? |
01:33:37 | midknight2k3 | its possible |
01:33:43 | arspy87 | the encryption is too simple to make it impossible to access audio data i heard |
01:33:55 | arspy87 | so it wouldnt be released by rio |
01:34:37 | arspy87 | hey i have an idea |
01:34:37 | earHertz | same. If the Karma were open source, I'd have bought it by now |
01:34:50 | midknight2k3 | well duh |
01:34:52 | midknight2k3 | ida busted the archos |
01:34:56 | midknight2k3 | and swapped it |
01:34:58 | arspy87 | can you write a pseudocrossfade in rb? would be nice |
01:35:03 | midknight2k3 | nope |
01:35:08 | midknight2k3 | well |
01:35:08 | arspy87 | too much? |
01:35:09 | midknight2k3 | maybe |
01:35:21 | earHertz | remember, teh MAS decodes. |
01:35:30 | arspy87 | right right, that jsut registered |
01:35:33 | earHertz | crossfading requires decoding two streams at once |
01:35:43 | arspy87 | but what about doing pseudo style? |
01:35:57 | Bluechip | not with mp3 - need to decode 2 streams in the sh-1 |
01:36:04 | arspy87 | switching back and forth really fast as told to me by midk is a possible crossfade method |
01:36:17 | Bluechip | not with mp3 |
01:36:26 | arspy87 | oh not with mp3 i see |
01:36:38 | midknight2k3 | as: what? |
01:36:40 | arspy87 | does rockbox decode other formats as well? |
01:36:42 | Bluechip | with PCM/WAV, yes |
01:36:45 | Bluechip | no |
01:36:49 | midknight2k3 | dont bring me into this as a coverup for your idiotic ideas :) |
01:36:50 | Bluechip | at lesat not yet |
01:37:03 | arspy87 | midk remember the crossfade issue, lol |
01:37:09 | midknight2k3 | i asked |
01:37:13 | midknight2k3 | i wasnt sure |
01:37:14 | arspy87 | "bona fide" vs "pseudo" lol |
01:37:22 | midknight2k3 | that was uksbe |
01:37:24 | midknight2k3 | not i |
01:37:36 | arspy87 | yes but you brought up the issue mr 2k3 :) |
01:37:42 | midknight2k3 | sure |
01:37:44 | arspy87 | well it was a good thought imo |
01:37:51 | midknight2k3 | its possible |
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01:42:02 | arspy87 | are the new archos's supported by rb or planned to be or are they all impossible? |
01:42:09 | midknight2k3 | no |
01:42:11 | midknight2k3 | not planned |
01:42:12 | midknight2k3 | wont happen |
01:42:13 | earHertz | the gmini? |
01:42:23 | earHertz | the multi-medias? |
01:42:23 | arspy87 | i saw one at circuit city |
01:42:23 | midknight2k3 | new archos's |
01:42:25 | earHertz | nope |
01:42:30 | arspy87 | the daps |
01:42:37 | arspy87 | all in c++ or something? |
01:42:37 | midknight2k3 | any new one |
01:42:49 | midknight2k3 | its not like you can just say "let me program it" |
01:42:52 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:42:55 | midknight2k3 | its hard work |
01:43:00 | arspy87 | of course |
01:43:13 | midknight2k3 | i suggest you go to http://rockbox.haxx.se, click "older news items" and read bottom up |
01:43:16 | arspy87 | ohi noticed thre are different versions for the different players |
01:43:24 | earHertz | They're very different in architechture, and, for the gmini, buisness model |
01:43:27 | arspy87 | its not all the same, haha ;) |
01:43:51 | arspy87 | midk: will do |
01:45:12 | arspy87 | so if rb replaces the whole fw you guys must have written audio decoder as well? |
01:45:18 | arspy87 | or... |
01:45:21 | arspy87 | dont lsiten to me |
01:45:41 | midknight2k3 | yes |
01:46:34 | LinusN | arspy87: the mp3 decoding is done by a dedicated chip, not the firmware |
01:47:05 | arspy87 | ah ok |
01:47:10 | arspy87 | i thought it would be something like that |
01:47:23 | LinusN | that's the MAS everyone is talking about |
01:48:44 | arspy87 | brb |
01:52:59 | midknight2k3 | back in a bit |
01:55:28 | earHertz | back in a byte |
01:55:37 | arspy87 | ha!! |
01:55:45 | midknight2k3 | tee hee |
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01:56:39 | DJBaz | hi |
01:56:46 | arspy87 | hey |
01:56:49 | DJBaz | how do i find out if i have a jukebox v2? |
01:57:07 | Bluechip | does it take aa batteries? |
01:57:33 | DJBaz | just nimh |
01:57:40 | Bluechip | not a recorder v1 |
01:57:40 | LinusN | then it's a v1 |
01:57:41 | midknight2k3 | back in a bit |
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01:57:51 | Bluechip | sorry - my mistake |
01:57:51 | DJBaz | ah kk |
01:58:00 | DJBaz | i want a v2 |
01:58:03 | DJBaz | lol |
01:58:04 | LinusN | v2 looks like an fmr |
01:58:05 | Bluechip | read nimh as lion :( |
01:58:08 | DJBaz | does archos sell v2's? |
01:58:24 | DJBaz | or were there only a few released? |
01:58:37 | earHertz | They no longer show the FMR on their site |
01:58:39 | Bluechip | the v1 is being phased out it would seem |
01:58:45 | earHertz | or I couldn't find it |
01:59:04 | earHertz | where's the V2 shown on their site? |
01:59:11 | DJBaz | i love my v1 |
01:59:21 | DJBaz | had it for a few years, lovely :) |
01:59:22 | earHertz | V1s are bulky |
01:59:29 | earHertz | v2 are balky |
01:59:42 | DJBaz | yeah there bulky |
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01:59:59 | DJBaz | least i cant loose it in my pocket :p |
02:00 |
02:00:07 | Bluechip | hate the thought of irreplacable batteries |
02:00:14 | Bluechip | loss of digital io |
02:00:16 | Bluechip | :( |
02:00:41 | DJBaz | Bluechip u on about the iPOD? |
02:00:49 | Bluechip | no v2 recorder |
02:01:15 | DJBaz | oh |
02:01:34 | DJBaz | v2 has no digoto i/o? |
02:01:39 | DJBaz | *digital |
02:01:49 | Bluechip | one of them is missing - dont recall which |
02:01:57 | earHertz | digital out |
02:02:38 | DJBaz | ah |
02:03:16 | DJBaz | anyone noticed that the line in on the recorder creates some noise while recording? |
02:05:39 | top_bloke | yeah i have |
02:06:16 | DJBaz | good, its not just me then |
02:06:45 | top_bloke | it was on a mic though |
02:06:52 | top_bloke | and it was recodring HD sounds |
02:07:25 | Bluechip | wonder if the internal mic is being fully off'ed |
02:08:19 | top_bloke | mhhm |
02:08:22 | top_bloke | yeah |
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02:08:41 | DJBaz | off'ed? |
02:09:11 | Bluechip | switched off (me typing lazy) |
02:09:21 | DJBaz | ah heh |
02:10:04 | DJBaz | it would cost to much to make the mic have a short pickup but that would still pick up the hdd sounds :S |
02:10:34 | Bluechip | take a cold sample of hdd noise and remove after is my best solution |
02:10:48 | top_bloke | how do u do that? |
02:11:00 | Bluechip | record nothing |
02:11:13 | Bluechip | then use the sample as a blueprint |
02:11:21 | top_bloke | blueprint? |
02:11:27 | Bluechip | and use sonic foundry noise reduction to search the sample and remove it |
02:11:32 | top_bloke | ok |
02:11:44 | DJBaz | but hdd noise differs |
02:11:51 | DJBaz | lol |
02:12:00 | Bluechip | if you want perfection you need to use an external mic |
02:12:02 | DJBaz | use an external mic |
02:12:13 | Bluechip | use a high gain |
02:12:23 | Bluechip | balance the feeds |
02:12:29 | Bluechip | etc. ;) |
02:12:36 | Bluechip | then record to DAT - LOL |
02:12:37 | DJBaz | Bluechip u a sound engineer? |
02:12:40 | Bluechip | indeed |
02:12:44 | DJBaz | nice! |
02:12:49 | DJBaz | im currently studdying ;) |
02:13:05 | DJBaz | in my first year |
02:13:28 | Bluechip | lucky bugger - i had to learn the hard way - lol |
02:13:32 | DJBaz | hehe |
02:13:52 | top_bloke | i did record off an ext mic and it had noise |
02:14:02 | DJBaz | top_bloke mics pick up noise |
02:14:13 | Bluechip | hdd noise u mean? |
02:14:14 | top_bloke | the mic was like 5 feet away under a pillow |
02:14:18 | top_bloke | yeah hd |
02:14:20 | Bluechip | ahhhhhhhhhh |
02:14:23 | DJBaz | lol |
02:14:28 | DJBaz | change the input option? |
02:14:33 | top_bloke | i tried everything w it |
02:14:35 | Bluechip | noooo |
02:14:51 | Bluechip | you recorded silence - the hdd noise would have a high db value |
02:15:21 | Bluechip | although it still should not happen |
02:15:28 | Bluechip | hence my comment about the switching |
02:15:37 | Bluechip | take a butchers at the code |
02:15:38 | DJBaz | Bluechip wouldnt that depend on the pickup pattern? |
02:15:46 | DJBaz | or is it a software thing? |
02:15:48 | Bluechip | there may be a typo or silly mistake |
02:16:04 | Bluechip | you could be getting a noise feed down the cable |
02:16:29 | DJBaz | top_bloke get an ADAT :) |
02:16:30 | top_bloke | yeah |
02:16:38 | Bluechip | if the hdd fluctuates the reference voltage - that might not be nice |
02:16:47 | top_bloke | i spliced the calbles myself to an 1/8 plug |
02:17:02 | Bluechip | balance the cable |
02:17:59 | DJBaz | Bluechip, do u work for a studio? |
02:18:04 | Bluechip | no |
02:18:15 | DJBaz | oh |
02:18:19 | DJBaz | what sector do you work in? |
02:18:21 | top_bloke | how do u balance a cable? |
02:18:25 | top_bloke | put it on a scale |
02:18:26 | top_bloke | ? |
02:18:33 | DJBaz | rofl |
02:18:34 | Bluechip | two feeds, one inverted |
02:18:34 | top_bloke | <rimshot> |
02:18:35 | earHertz | Bluechip, an MTV dancer |
02:18:43 | Bluechip | damn -foiled again |
02:18:48 | DJBaz | hehe |
02:18:53 | top_bloke | ? |
02:19:02 | top_bloke | out of phase? |
02:19:23 | DJBaz | this is taken me back to class :| |
02:19:24 | Bluechip | yes, then you can invert one and add it to the other to remove the inteference |
02:19:25 | DJBaz | lol |
02:19:39 | top_bloke | ok |
02:19:52 | top_bloke | since its 2 seperate mics now |
02:19:58 | top_bloke | one for each channel |
02:20:10 | top_bloke | so u mean put them both on one>? |
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02:21:01 | Bluechip | ___−−-"""−−-___ and """−−-___−−-""" + ^ => ___−−-"^"−−-___ and """−−-_^_−−-""" |
02:21:09 | top_bloke | uhhhhh |
02:21:15 | Bluechip | sine waves |
02:21:26 | top_bloke | ok |
02:21:28 | DJBaz | just phase out the noise |
02:21:37 | Bluechip | the noise is IN PHASE |
02:21:44 | top_bloke | but 2 mics are connected to a mono channel right? |
02:21:49 | DJBaz | ive been trying to do that with my hi fi speakers but cant do it :( |
02:21:57 | Sebulba02 | Aww, no tan waves? :) |
02:21:57 | Bluechip | yes, one mic - one normal feed, one inverted feed |
02:22:03 | DJBaz | why 2 mics on a mono channel? |
02:22:03 | top_bloke | ok got it |
02:22:11 | top_bloke | thats what he says to do |
02:22:15 | DJBaz | kk |
02:22:21 | top_bloke | to cancel the noise |
02:22:24 | Bluechip | baz: place a third speaker between the two outs :) |
02:22:37 | Bluechip | or is that not what you mean? |
02:23:08 | top_bloke | ?? |
02:23:12 | DJBaz | Bluechip u on about phasing, 180 degres apart so each sine wave cancels each other out so no 'sound' is audible? |
02:23:23 | Bluechip | you really need to do it BEFORE the power amp |
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02:23:46 | Bluechip | any op-amp chip will give you an inverted and non-inverted feed |
02:24:16 | DJBaz | what |
02:24:28 | earHertz | where are the pics of the xclef internals/ |
02:24:30 | earHertz | ? |
02:24:33 | DJBaz | wait i mean lol |
02:24:37 | top_bloke | cant u just switch the speaker wire |
02:24:41 | DJBaz | i am right about phasing? |
02:24:45 | top_bloke | red to black and vice versa |
02:24:55 | DJBaz | as in being out of phase? |
02:25:05 | Bluechip | yeiurgh - put one speaker out of phase and walk around the room - LOL |
02:25:16 | top_bloke | what happens? |
02:25:19 | DJBaz | nothing |
02:25:21 | DJBaz | ;) |
02:25:25 | top_bloke | ? |
02:25:35 | DJBaz | u shouldnt hear anything |
02:25:35 | Bluechip | there are loads of really weird dead spots in the room |
02:25:43 | top_bloke | wow |
02:25:50 | Bluechip | the vocals will keep disappearing and stuff |
02:25:58 | top_bloke | will just connecting a speaker backwards work? |
02:25:59 | Bluechip | try it in your car for the full head-fk effect |
02:26:10 | Bluechip | yep |
02:26:11 | DJBaz | i can never get phasing to work in here |
02:27:54 | top_bloke | if 2 speakers play the same thing out of phase next to each other, will you hear anything? |
02:28:06 | DJBaz | nope |
02:28:21 | Bluechip | you must play same thing in both speakers and put your head in the middle |
02:28:29 | top_bloke | cool |
02:28:30 | Bluechip | MONO only |
02:28:38 | top_bloke | yeah |
02:28:50 | Bluechip | although, this is how the karaoke function works on the jukebo |
02:28:51 | Bluechip | x |
02:29:00 | Bluechip | vocals are in mono |
02:29:02 | top_bloke | with a stereo signal |
02:29:03 | Bluechip | :) |
02:29:09 | DJBaz | Bluechip thats where ive went wrong... ill stick ma head inbetween em 2morow |
02:29:21 | DJBaz | lol |
02:29:23 | top_bloke | so you dont hear whats the same on both channels |
02:29:24 | Bluechip | lol |
02:29:29 | Bluechip | indeed |
02:29:34 | DJBaz | nope, neat huh |
02:29:44 | top_bloke | yeah |
02:29:47 | DJBaz | its like 1 + 1 = 0 |
02:29:54 | top_bloke | uh |
02:29:57 | Bluechip | whan I get the sim working, i will plan to update the rockbox audio features so you can play with all this |
02:30:07 | Bluechip | no, 1 + (-1) = 0 |
02:30:09 | top_bloke | isnt it like 1 + -1 = 0? |
02:30:14 | Bluechip | one of the numbers is inverted |
02:30:19 | DJBaz | well u knew what i meant |
02:30:19 | DJBaz | :P |
02:30:20 | top_bloke | caus its the opposite |
02:30:22 | top_bloke | yeah |
02:30:24 | Bluechip | lol |
02:30:37 | DJBaz | am only young :P |
02:31:06 | DJBaz | *looks at all the gray haired ppl in here* |
02:31:07 | DJBaz | ;) |
02:31:13 | DJBaz | *grey |
02:31:25 | Bluechip | gree in scotland |
02:31:26 | earHertz | stuff it, junior |
02:31:28 | Bluechip | lol |
02:31:38 | Bluechip | oh, leave the pet alone ;) |
02:31:40 | top_bloke | lol |
02:31:42 | Bluechip | lol |
02:31:47 | DJBaz | lol |
02:31:52 | DJBaz | Bluechip how do u know i live in scotland? |
02:32:05 | Bluechip | ermmmmm |
02:32:20 | earHertz | the smell? |
02:32:26 | DJBaz | earHertz fu |
02:32:33 | DJBaz | :| |
02:32:57 | DJBaz | Bluechip ... :p |
02:35:32 | Bluechip | anybody here any cop with makefiles? |
02:35:40 | Bluechip | they send me blind |
02:36:10 | Sebulba02 | I've done some makefile hacking |
02:36:28 | Bluechip | one mo ...just found another candidate |
02:37:19 | DJBaz | im knackered, gonna go |
02:37:20 | DJBaz | cya |
02:37:30 | Bluechip | nite dude |
02:38:10 | | Quit DJBaz ("Rockbox 4 ever") |
02:38:30 | Bluechip | ahh, found what I was looking for, but it just blows up now - well at least I am closer to the real problem now - but cheers seb |
02:39:03 | Sebulba02 | heh |
02:39:29 | Bluechip | sods law - like asking where the cheese is n Tesco JUST at the moment you are standing next to it |
02:40:07 | Sebulba02 | mmm... cheese |
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02:41:14 | midknight2k3 | hi |
02:41:39 | top_bloke | yo |
02:42:21 | Sebulba02 | sup |
02:42:33 | midknight2k3 | i feel so important |
02:42:51 | top_bloke | well youre not |
02:42:54 | Sebulba02 | lol |
02:42:57 | Bluechip | lol |
02:42:57 | top_bloke | nah j/k |
02:43:01 | midknight2k3 | thanks toop |
02:43:13 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
02:43:28 | Bluechip | does that stand for something? |
02:43:39 | midknight2k3 | Stupid Dumb Dumbhead |
02:43:46 | Bluechip | lovely! |
02:43:47 | midknight2k3 | nah, just random chars |
02:43:52 | midknight2k3 | sdd, asdf, and dfad |
02:43:52 | top_bloke | lol |
02:43:55 | midknight2k3 | afe favorites |
02:44:14 | Bluechip | guitar going well? |
02:44:28 | midknight2k3 | ? |
02:45:34 | top_bloke | did u know the archos can act as a mini guitar amp? |
02:45:46 | Bluechip | cool huh :) |
02:45:51 | top_bloke | yeah |
02:45:53 | midknight2k3 | gotta get off irc for a few mins |
02:45:53 | midknight2k3 | bye |
02:45:55 | | Quit midknight2k3 () |
02:45:57 | Bluechip | or hearing aid? |
02:46:02 | top_bloke | i've plugged mine in directly into it |
02:46:05 | Bluechip | out with the parabolics :) |
02:46:09 | top_bloke | and NO noise while recoring |
02:46:29 | Bluechip | could be an earthing issue then |
02:46:31 | top_bloke | and good volume too |
02:46:54 | top_bloke | just needs some distortion |
02:47:05 | top_bloke | and maybe reverb and it would be sweet |
02:47:31 | Bluechip | must get wav codec to work .... new problems have arisen it would seem :( |
02:47:53 | top_bloke | can u make a distortion feature for rockbox? |
02:48:15 | Bluechip | if we manage to get it processing PCM signals |
02:48:23 | Bluechip | low quality though |
02:48:33 | top_bloke | u workin on that? |
02:48:47 | Bluechip | with others |
02:48:56 | top_bloke | cool |
02:49:52 | Bluechip | but it is seeming more like the "dev kit" (for lck of a better term) we have may be insufficient |
02:50:15 | top_bloke | boo |
02:50:34 | Bluechip | feel free to ask around in case you have friends who can help |
02:50:49 | top_bloke | hiss |
02:51:33 | Bluechip | brb |
02:52:44 | Bluechip | k |
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03:11:03 | Sebulba02 | true dat |
03:22:18 | | Quit _aLF ("bye") |
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04:07:45 | Sebulba02 | wee |
04:08:10 | NHeal | orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
04:08:10 | NJoin | midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@AC9679C9.ipt.aol.com) |
04:08:10 | NJoin | BoBB [0] (~bob@ip68-106-225-254.ph.ph.cox.net) |
04:08:20 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
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04:09:42 | Bluechip | wtf |
04:09:52 | Sebulba02 | netsplits |
04:10:00 | Sebulba02 | network is having serious issues |
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04:10:38 | Sebulba02 | this is usually around the time where a message is sent from a server admin.. |
04:11:24 | midknight2k3 | yes |
04:11:38 | Sebulba02 | didn't get one.. |
04:11:46 | Bluechip | miserable git - lol |
04:11:49 | midknight2k3 | me either |
04:11:55 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
04:11:57 | Sebulba02 | ah |
04:11:59 | Sebulba02 | there it is |
04:12:33 | Bluechip | think i blinked |
04:12:48 | Sebulba02 | ? |
04:12:55 | Bluechip | where it is? |
04:13:12 | Sebulba02 | (22:11:48) dmwaters: (notice) {global notice} Hi all, we seem to be having some problems with european hubbing. I'm working on the problem right now, and I should have things back to normal in a minute |
04:13:21 | Sebulba02 | Do you not have wallops enabled? |
04:13:31 | Bluechip | LOL - sounds rude |
04:13:48 | Bluechip | no, im a very basic chat room guy - trillian |
04:13:56 | Sebulba02 | I'm using gaim :) |
04:14:03 | midknight2k3 | mirc |
04:14:05 | Sebulba02 | I still got it |
04:14:06 | midknight2k3 | usually xchat |
04:14:15 | | Join arspy87 [0] (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
04:14:19 | arspy87 | hey |
04:14:32 | Bluechip | trillis not a good IRC client - but it serves my purposes |
04:14:45 | midknight2k3 | tell that to arspy87 |
04:14:50 | midknight2k3 | he loves trillian |
04:14:53 | midknight2k3 | with his heart |
04:15:12 | Bluechip | i love it anally, but it's irc lacks |
04:15:19 | Bluechip | ..the features i never use |
04:15:27 | midknight2k3 | a bit more info then i needed |
04:15:39 | Sebulba02 | I agree with you for once midknight2k3 |
04:15:39 | midknight2k3 | what features |
04:15:48 | midknight2k3 | lol |
04:15:48 | Bluechip | had a special "user port" installed jsut for the purpose |
04:16:03 | Bluechip | round the back, near the fan (for vibration) |
04:16:16 | midknight2k3 | er |
04:16:33 | midknight2k3 | right. anyways... |
04:16:34 | Bluechip | Sandra Dickenson is cute :) |
04:17:38 | Sebulba02 | ah |
04:17:42 | Sebulba02 | now it all makes sense |
04:17:46 | Bluechip | ;) |
04:18:00 | Bluechip | there's them that know, and them that need's to ask - lol |
04:18:05 | Sebulba02 | no pictures yet though, but I get the context |
04:18:32 | Sebulba02 | & you misspeleed it :P |
04:18:39 | Bluechip | oh yes, whoops |
04:18:45 | Bluechip | DickInson?? |
04:18:48 | midknight2k3 | yes |
04:18:50 | Sebulba02 | yeah |
04:18:55 | midknight2k3 | you misspeleed it bluechip! |
04:19:02 | midknight2k3 | shame on you |
04:19:06 | Bluechip | :( |
04:19:16 | midknight2k3 | misspeleer |
04:19:17 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
04:19:17 | * | Bluechip crawls off under his desk to a hole |
04:19:32 | midknight2k3 | a hole that's near the fan |
04:19:35 | midknight2k3 | for vibration |
04:19:41 | Bluechip | brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
04:19:54 | Bluechip | must change that bag |
04:20:18 | midknight2k3 | lol |
04:20:28 | midknight2k3 | lol |
04:21:02 | Bluechip | acccount managment on trill irc sucks |
04:21:32 | Bluechip | WOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOO |
04:21:38 | Sebulba02 | I stopped using trillian when gaim for win32 became not-too-horribly-unstable |
04:21:42 | midknight2k3 | bluechip must be tired |
04:21:46 | Bluechip | next sim bug gone :) |
04:22:06 | Sebulba02 | well, its what.. 3:30am there? |
04:22:15 | Bluechip | 3:22 |
04:22:16 | midknight2k3 | bluechip: btw, thx for sim fix i hope it gets merged |
04:22:20 | Sebulba02 | close enough |
04:22:34 | midknight2k3 | 7:22 here |
04:22:35 | midknight2k3 | pm |
04:22:43 | Bluechip | i submitted the first patch last night |
04:22:51 | Bluechip | where r u? |
04:22:54 | Bluechip | 07:22? |
04:23:12 | midknight2k3 | nm |
04:23:16 | midknight2k3 | er |
04:23:20 | * | midknight2k3 calculates |
04:23:24 | midknight2k3 | 19:22 |
04:23:25 | Sebulba02 | Hes PST |
04:23:36 | Bluechip | P? |
04:23:37 | midknight2k3 | Hes is in the room, yes |
04:23:49 | midknight2k3 | indeed |
04:23:52 | Sebulba02 | yeah, 3 behind me.. i'm EST |
04:24:05 | midknight2k3 | SORRY SeBuLBa |
04:24:07 | Bluechip | Eastern and Postulate? |
04:24:11 | Sebulba02 | Pacific |
04:24:16 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
04:24:16 | Bluechip | ahaaaa |
04:24:28 | Sebulba02 | Pacific-Mountain-Central-Eastern |
04:24:53 | Sebulba02 | Why it couldn't be Western, is beyond me |
04:25:05 | Bluechip | they need pacifying |
04:25:12 | Bluechip | :P |
04:25:18 | Sebulba02 | heh |
04:25:56 | midknight2k3 | lol |
04:26:00 | arspy87 | the people in the pacific like california are so much less crazy and violent than easterners who are always rushing |
04:26:02 | Sebulba02 | Or maybe MDT, but I really don't want to get into that. |
04:26:35 | Bluechip | Madeup Dumbass Time (qv. sdd) |
04:26:38 | Sebulba02 | Damn time changes every 6 months sucks hardcore. |
04:26:40 | Bluechip | lol |
04:26:47 | arspy87 | lmao |
04:26:51 | Sebulba02 | heh |
04:27:08 | arspy87 | northeasterners need their own time zone |
04:27:23 | Sebulba02 | I'm in the SE |
04:27:26 | arspy87 | i have no idea why though |
04:27:32 | top_bloke | lol - Madeup Dumbass Time |
04:27:37 | top_bloke | thats gold |
04:27:49 | midknight2k3 | uh |
04:27:53 | top_bloke | GOLD |
04:27:54 | midknight2k3 | anyways... |
04:28:00 | arspy87 | ha |
04:28:01 | arspy87 | funny |
04:28:03 | arspy87 | MDT |
04:28:04 | midknight2k3 | that's bronze |
04:28:07 | midknight2k3 | not gold |
04:28:10 | top_bloke | GOLD |
04:28:15 | midknight2k3 | BRONZE |
04:28:16 | arspy87 | i think its platinum |
04:28:22 | midknight2k3 | BRONZE!!!!! |
04:28:26 | top_bloke | is that better than gold? |
04:28:29 | midknight2k3 | no. |
04:28:40 | top_bloke | platinum that is |
04:28:42 | arspy87 | platinum |
04:28:42 | Sebulba02 | Platinum is better than gold |
04:28:43 | arspy87 | sure it is |
04:28:46 | arspy87 | like platinum sales |
04:28:50 | top_bloke | PLATINUM |
04:29:05 | top_bloke | its more expensive |
04:29:19 | | Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) |
04:29:24 | arspy87 | gold is boring and typical |
04:29:27 | arspy87 | platinum is shiny |
04:29:42 | Sebulba02 | so is a giant diamond |
04:30:01 | arspy87 | ok so i think MDT is diamond |
04:30:04 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
04:30:05 | Sebulba02 | but thats a stone and you all seem into medals |
04:30:06 | midknight2k3 | shh* |
04:30:13 | arspy87 | true. |
04:30:16 | midknight2k3 | im so used to sdd that i meant to say shh but i said sdd |
04:30:16 | Sebulba02 | metals* |
04:30:28 | arspy87 | lol nidk |
04:30:31 | arspy87 | midk* |
04:30:43 | midknight2k3 | nOOOOOOOOOO |
04:31:12 | arspy87 | ? |
04:31:43 | Bluechip | hmmm - now to get bass & loundness looking better |
04:31:45 | Sebulba02 | Hes probably just losing it again for the night. |
04:31:52 | midknight2k3 | SDD |
04:34:01 | arspy87 | Seb: i'm also losing it, lol |
04:34:53 | midknight2k3 | sebULBA |
04:35:00 | Sebulba02 | heh |
04:35:05 | midknight2k3 | sebulba: did you used to be "seb"? |
04:35:10 | midknight2k3 | seb|sleep, etc? |
04:35:20 | Sebulba02 | are you all really that lazy to type a few letters than push tab? |
04:35:32 | Sebulba02 | Err, don't think so. |
04:35:33 | midknight2k3 | he doesnt know the tab trick |
04:36:03 | * | Sebulba02 can't live witout tab completion. |
04:36:07 | midknight2k3 | as: try typing the first 2 letters of name and then pushing tab |
04:36:13 | midknight2k3 | it fills it in |
04:36:21 | midknight2k3 | if its not the right one push tab again until it is |
04:36:37 | midknight2k3 | for example: i put the following: as <tab> <enter> |
04:36:38 | Bluechip | lol - mk, last time you call me "chip" :P |
04:36:41 | midknight2k3 | results in |
04:36:43 | midknight2k3 | as |
04:36:44 | midknight2k3 | er |
04:36:46 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
04:36:56 | midknight2k3 | make that ar<tab><enter> |
04:36:58 | midknight2k3 | arspy87 |
04:37:02 | Bluechip | i think it is more personal |
04:37:11 | midknight2k3 | i like calling you chip |
04:37:12 | * | Sebulba02 shrugs |
04:37:49 | Bluechip | I used to have a close friend who we all called seb(by) - so if I use seb I immediately feel a bond and have a good grounding for positive communication |
04:38:16 | Sebulba02 | I see. |
04:38:30 | Bluechip | little psychology trick |
04:38:35 | midknight2k3 | liol |
04:38:56 | Sebulba02 | Whatever it takes [tm] |
04:39:55 | Bluechip | thin John Lennon beat you to that one ;) |
04:40:16 | Sebulba02 | heh |
04:45:21 | Bluechip | so mk, you got that dev kit going yet? |
04:45:26 | midknight2k3 | no |
04:45:28 | midknight2k3 | i hate cygwin |
04:45:33 | Bluechip | offer's still open |
04:45:49 | Sebulba02 | Nothings a substitute for a good linux environment |
04:45:52 | Bluechip | it's not perfect, but it works |
04:45:53 | midknight2k3 | oh bc? |
04:46:22 | Sebulba02 | I still think you should add vim :) |
04:46:38 | Bluechip | how big is it? |
04:46:44 | midknight2k3 | :} |
04:46:49 | Sebulba02 | beats me |
04:46:51 | Bluechip | lol |
04:46:56 | Sebulba02 | can't be that big |
04:46:56 | LinusN | 100k or so |
04:47:03 | midknight2k3 | hrm hrm hrm |
04:47:04 | Bluechip | hmmm |
04:47:10 | midknight2k3 | bc: what is the offer |
04:47:13 | midknight2k3 | Bluechip that is |
04:47:16 | Bluechip | a working dev kit |
04:47:23 | midknight2k3 | where |
04:47:27 | Bluechip | on my hdd |
04:47:37 | Bluechip | ...until roland and I get it perfect |
04:47:45 | midknight2k3 | i want to simply wipe out cygwin and reinstall it but it wont let me |
04:47:51 | midknight2k3 | "access denied" again |
04:47:59 | Bluechip | need his help but i think he must be away |
04:48:08 | Bluechip | can't erase the directory? |
04:48:11 | midknight2k3 | hes on the mailinglist often |
04:48:13 | midknight2k3 | right, bc |
04:48:16 | Bluechip | is there no uninstall |
04:48:21 | midknight2k3 | is there a force delete? |
04:48:24 | midknight2k3 | i dont think so, no |
04:48:29 | Bluechip | not that i know of |
04:48:34 | Sebulba02 | format <drive> :) |
04:48:35 | midknight2k3 | cant you do a force delete at the command prompt or something |
04:48:37 | Bluechip | lol |
04:48:39 | midknight2k3 | NO THANKS Seb |
04:48:51 | Bluechip | does a reboot and then delete dir not work |
04:48:55 | Bluechip | do you need admin privs? |
04:48:56 | Sebulba02 | deltree |
04:49:03 | Bluechip | that's a thought |
04:49:06 | Sebulba02 | do you have it, is the question |
04:49:08 | midknight2k3 | how does it work |
04:49:14 | midknight2k3 | i used it once before |
04:49:15 | Bluechip | WITH CARE |
04:49:18 | midknight2k3 | never wored right |
04:49:27 | midknight2k3 | i deleted c:\windows with it |
04:49:31 | midknight2k3 | it was an accident |
04:49:33 | Sebulba02 | gotta be careful |
04:49:33 | Bluechip | WITH CARE |
04:49:38 | Bluechip | lol |
04:49:44 | midknight2k3 | how is it used |
04:49:51 | Bluechip | i did rm -r * in root once |
04:50:00 | midknight2k3 | -r? |
04:50:01 | Sebulba02 | in / or /root ? |
04:50:01 | Bluechip | "anf there was naught" |
04:50:02 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
04:50:12 | Sebulba02 | ah, / |
04:50:15 | Bluechip | took THE LOT |
04:50:20 | midknight2k3 | really |
04:50:25 | midknight2k3 | what happened |
04:50:25 | Bluechip | honest |
04:50:31 | Sebulba02 | until you rm 'rm' then you can't 'rm' anymore. |
04:50:31 | Bluechip | thought I was in another dir |
04:50:46 | LinusN | gotta sleep, nite all! |
04:50:48 | midknight2k3 | bye |
04:50:50 | Sebulba02 | 'night |
04:50:51 | Bluechip | nite linus |
04:50:51 | midknight2k3 | bye bye |
04:50:57 | | Part LinusN |
04:51:08 | midknight2k3 | seb |
04:51:10 | midknight2k3 | bc |
04:51:11 | midknight2k3 | help |
04:51:13 | midknight2k3 | how cna i do this |
04:51:17 | midknight2k3 | i need to delete c cygwin |
04:51:22 | midknight2k3 | rm? deltree? |
04:51:27 | Bluechip | reboot with admin privs will remain my suggestion |
04:51:32 | Sebulba02 | first of all, are you an admin? |
04:51:36 | Bluechip | ...unles it fails |
04:51:37 | midknight2k3 | its ... yes |
04:51:51 | midknight2k3 | i think its cause its in use it says |
04:52:02 | Sebulba02 | open up the task manager and kill it |
04:52:17 | midknight2k3 | kill what exactly? |
04:52:22 | midknight2k3 | HH |
04:52:23 | Sebulba02 | cygwin |
04:52:24 | midknight2k3 | AHH* |
04:52:25 | | Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) |
04:52:28 | Bluechip | anything that starts "cyg" |
04:52:33 | midknight2k3 | bash.exe |
04:52:37 | Sebulba02 | heh |
04:52:39 | Sebulba02 | that too |
04:52:50 | midknight2k3 | er |
04:52:52 | midknight2k3 | cygpath.exe |
04:53:01 | midknight2k3 | shut off 3 things |
04:53:03 | midknight2k3 | now to test |
04:53:11 | midknight2k3 | IT WORKS |
04:53:13 | midknight2k3 | thanks guys |
04:53:40 | Bluechip | np |
04:54:15 | top_bloke | gotta roll |
04:54:19 | Bluechip | nitey |
04:54:22 | midknight2k3 | night toopy |
04:54:26 | top_bloke | night |
04:54:30 | top_bloke | bye |
04:54:36 | | Quit top_bloke ("The mind is a terrible thing to taste. Wasted 1 hour 40 minutes and 53 seconds online.") |
04:54:37 | midknight2k3 | :D |
04:56:50 | midknight2k3 | back in 10-15 |
04:56:55 | | Nick midknight2k3 is now known as midk|away (zakk@AC9679C9.ipt.aol.com) |
04:56:59 | | Nick midk|away is now known as midk|afk (zakk@AC9679C9.ipt.aol.com) |
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05:12:11 | | Nick midk|afk is now known as midknight2k3 (zakk@AC9679C9.ipt.aol.com) |
05:12:37 | | Join ILuvit [0] (~ydouneedi@ool-18bc45af.dyn.optonline.net) |
05:12:44 | Sebulba02 | uh, that was more than 10-15 mins :) |
05:12:50 | ILuvit | Hi guys |
05:12:53 | midknight2k3 | was ut> |
05:12:55 | Sebulba02 | 'evening |
05:13:01 | midknight2k3 | just 17 |
05:13:06 | midknight2k3 | watching some core clips |
05:13:08 | midknight2k3 | hi seb |
05:13:52 | Bluechip | wanna use my computer? |
05:14:03 | midknight2k3 | me |
05:14:04 | midknight2k3 | yes |
05:14:07 | midknight2k3 | grr |
05:14:12 | midknight2k3 | i cant delete "home" |
05:14:16 | midknight2k3 | any ideas |
05:14:47 | Bluechip | its probably a mount point - look in the registry |
05:14:56 | ILuvit | i got the FM recorder is there still a problem with charging after flashing? |
05:15:10 | midknight2k3 | ? |
05:15:10 | Bluechip | :X |
05:15:12 | midknight2k3 | bc> |
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05:15:16 | midknight2k3 | ILuvit: no |
05:15:23 | midknight2k3 | wanting to flash? |
05:15:32 | Bluechip | you cannot remove cygwin from within bash |
05:15:41 | midknight2k3 | no |
05:15:46 | midknight2k3 | just in win explorer |
05:16:00 | Bluechip | all cygwin stuff hut down? |
05:16:10 | midknight2k3 | i think so yes |
05:16:46 | Bluechip | and the precise windows error? |
05:17:03 | Sebulba02 | PEBCAK |
05:17:16 | midknight2k3 | access is denied, and "cannot delete alarm_menu.c: Make sure the disk is not write-protected or full, and that the source file is not in use." |
05:17:25 | midknight2k3 | PEBCAK? |
05:17:27 | Bluechip | close your editor |
05:17:32 | midknight2k3 | not open |
05:17:36 | midknight2k3 | is, but no files open in it |
05:17:42 | Sebulba02 | check to make sure everything is closed |
05:17:49 | Bluechip | seb: you could be right |
05:17:49 | midknight2k3 | what is "everything"? |
05:17:58 | Bluechip | what is open? |
05:18:00 | Bluechip | close it! |
05:18:13 | midknight2k3 | editor closed |
05:18:16 | Stevenm | Hey guys. Is there a way to boot into the original BIOS (not into Rockbox) by doing something at the startup screen? |
05:18:24 | midknight2k3 | yes |
05:18:26 | midknight2k3 | f1+on |
05:18:33 | Stevenm | thank you. |
05:18:35 | midknight2k3 | if you've flashed you mean? |
05:18:40 | Stevenm | no, if I have not |
05:18:41 | midknight2k3 | bc: won't work |
05:18:43 | midknight2k3 | oh |
05:18:46 | midknight2k3 | remove ajbrec.ajz |
05:18:47 | midknight2k3 | is all |
05:18:56 | * | midknight2k3 recommends flashing |
05:19:02 | Stevenm | midknight2k3: I have had this problem earlier today: |
05:19:13 | Stevenm | For some reason my device started mounting read-only |
05:19:20 | Sebulba02 | heh |
05:19:22 | midknight2k3 | odd |
05:19:23 | Stevenm | and I could not delete ANYTHING or even create directories |
05:19:27 | Sebulba02 | been there, done that |
05:19:44 | midknight2k3 | ill hafta reboot to delete the stuff |
05:19:47 | midknight2k3 | so i'll brb all |
05:19:48 | Stevenm | I had to boot into Windows (yyyeeeuuuoooggghh) and have to delete rockbox, and reinstall |
05:19:54 | Sebulba02 | you didn't unmount it properly |
05:20:00 | midknight2k3 | back in a sec all |
05:20:13 | Stevenm | I did, unmounted, powered down both PC and recorder, remounted |
05:20:23 | Stevenm | I'm on linux by the way, kernel ver 2.6 |
05:20:41 | Sebulba02 | is it as nice as I've heard? |
05:20:51 | Stevenm | I would guess so |
05:20:56 | Stevenm | Its... kernellicious |
05:21:15 | Sebulba02 | man, wish it weren't such a PITA to upgrade this machine |
05:21:25 | Stevenm | its so FAST. so nice. so free-of-supposedly-SCO's code |
05:21:31 | Sebulba02 | heh |
05:21:55 | Stevenm | although I dont believe a word of it. Besides, Sco took Samba code that was written by Dennis Richie back 20 years ago or something |
05:22:13 | Sebulba02 | Its all nonsense |
05:22:20 | Stevenm | yes |
05:22:38 | Stevenm | Su.. tell em about flashing. Recommend? No? PITA?How risky? |
05:22:49 | Sebulba02 | No clue, never done it. |
05:22:59 | Sebulba02 | There should be docs about it though, I imagine. |
05:23:44 | Bluechip | the risk is as small as possible - machine were lost in the VERY early beta days - but afaik none since all the abisuve error checking was added |
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05:24:25 | Bluechip | actually I think one guy said online recently he flashed the wrong code in somehow - thought it was not possible |
05:24:26 | midk2k3 | back |
05:24:28 | Stevenm | What's the deal with 1 or 2 slots? |
05:24:48 | Bluechip | the flash chip is twice as big as required |
05:24:56 | Bluechip | can have two firmwares if you like |
05:25:06 | Sebulba02 | heh |
05:25:12 | midk2k3 | ITS STILL NOT WORKING |
05:25:24 | midk2k3 | i guess i have to go into safe mode and then as an administrator |
05:25:26 | midk2k3 | may work |
05:25:27 | Bluechip | does xp have "safe mode"? |
05:25:31 | midk2k3 | or just safe mode altogether |
05:25:32 | midk2k3 | yes |
05:25:40 | midk2k3 | ill try it. back in a few mins |
05:25:46 | Bluechip | yeah - that'll fix it - safe mode admin privs - goodnight PITA dir |
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05:28:56 | | Quit midknight2k3 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
05:28:56 | | Quit midk2k3 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
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05:36:05 | midknight2k3 | no go |
05:36:12 | midknight2k3 | *stumped* |
05:36:57 | Sebulba02 | same error? |
05:37:03 | midknight2k3 | yupxors |
05:37:04 | Bluechip | maybe sysinternals.com have a util? |
05:37:09 | midknight2k3 | maybe i could reboot to other drive |
05:37:13 | midknight2k3 | so nothing would be accessing it |
05:37:28 | Sebulba02 | boot to a floppy |
05:37:31 | Bluechip | safe mode admin privs - cannot erase file -VERY suspect |
05:37:33 | midknight2k3 | no |
05:37:34 | midknight2k3 | boot to other drive |
05:37:39 | midknight2k3 | very very |
05:37:44 | midknight2k3 | maybe something on startup |
05:37:50 | midknight2k3 | i could boot to d:\ drive and delete it maybe |
05:37:53 | Bluechip | check the reg keys |
05:38:01 | midknight2k3 | where and what |
05:38:07 | Sebulba02 | shouldn't they be gone? |
05:38:07 | Bluechip | if d is bootable, yeah, why not |
05:38:22 | midknight2k3 | its bootable |
05:38:24 | midknight2k3 | last attempt |
05:38:30 | midknight2k3 | ill boot to d:\ - brb |
05:38:31 | Bluechip | run, runonce, etc |
05:38:46 | midknight2k3 | ill be back for the last time |
05:38:53 | Bluechip | apparently cygwin does not have an uninstaler |
05:39:19 | Sebulba02 | I thought it did. |
05:39:24 | Bluechip | meh |
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05:39:33 | Bluechip | just repeating mk |
05:40:05 | Sebulba02 | Actually, I'm sure it did. How else did I remove it when I tried it? |
05:40:13 | Bluechip | PEBCAK? |
05:40:20 | Sebulba02 | Sounds like it. |
05:42:01 | Sebulba02 | Maybe he shoulda read this: http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC19 |
05:42:19 | Sebulba02 | Apparently no uninstaller, my bad. |
05:42:37 | Bluechip | lol - ur thinking of MY cygwin install :D |
05:42:46 | Sebulba02 | No |
05:42:52 | Sebulba02 | I tried cygwin a long time ago |
05:43:02 | Bluechip | joking |
05:43:04 | Sebulba02 | I coulda sworn it had an uninstaller |
05:43:07 | Bluechip | being smug |
05:43:12 | * | Sebulba02 shrugs |
05:44:13 | Sebulba02 | Probably didn't delete the registry items and its still hanging onto it. |
05:44:28 | Bluechip | cgwin does weird stiff like that |
05:44:38 | Sebulba02 | Not to mention being weird itself. |
05:45:23 | Sebulba02 | I'll just install debian on every machine I want a real OS on :) |
05:46:31 | Sebulba02 | Oh no, were at terror alert level orange.. what ever that means. |
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05:47:38 | midknight2k3 | . |
05:47:51 | midknight2k3 | . |
05:47:54 | midknight2k3 | . . |
05:48:00 | midknight2k3 | . |
05:48:03 | midknight2k3 | . . |
05:48:05 | midknight2k3 | . . |
05:48:07 | midknight2k3 | . . |
05:48:10 | midknight2k3 | . |
05:48:12 | Sebulba02 | you need help |
05:48:16 | midknight2k3 | i do |
05:48:18 | midknight2k3 | it wont delete |
05:48:27 | Bluechip | plz remind me how to pipe stderr to the file with stdout :) |
05:48:36 | midknight2k3 | HELP |
05:48:40 | midknight2k3 | ITS NOT DELETING |
05:48:47 | Bluechip | sysinternals.com |
05:48:49 | Sebulba02 | read this |
05:48:53 | midknight2k3 | ? |
05:48:58 | Sebulba02 | http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC19 |
05:49:15 | Sebulba02 | How to pipe stderr to a file with stdout? |
05:49:40 | Sebulba02 | ./whatever > file 1>&2 |
05:49:44 | Sebulba02 | I think |
05:49:59 | Bluechip | nope :( |
05:50:04 | Sebulba02 | its backwards |
05:50:07 | Sebulba02 | switch the 2 & 1 |
05:50:29 | Bluechip | thanks mate |
05:50:34 | Sebulba02 | np |
05:50:40 | midknight2k3 | er |
05:50:44 | midknight2k3 | deleted the registry keys |
05:50:49 | midknight2k3 | still cant get c:\cygwin gone |
05:51:05 | Sebulba02 | how about the rest of it, remove it from your path and all that crap? |
05:51:05 | Bluechip | erase what you can and see whats left |
05:51:31 | Sebulba02 | yeah, be interesting to see what file its hanging onto |
05:51:57 | midknight2k3 | cant delete: home, rockbox, or usr |
05:52:01 | Sebulba02 | . midknight2k3 > /dev/null 2>&1 |
05:52:08 | midknight2k3 | ? |
05:52:17 | Sebulba02 | nm |
05:52:21 | midknight2k3 | what what |
05:52:40 | Sebulba02 | what files in those dirs can't it delete? |
05:52:46 | midknight2k3 | anything |
05:52:57 | midknight2k3 | in home, all my rockbox stuff (starting with apps/alarm_menu.c) |
05:53:12 | Bluechip | erase one file at a time |
05:53:13 | midknight2k3 | usr is working i think |
05:53:15 | midknight2k3 | wroking = going |
05:53:19 | Sebulba02 | uh, you killed bash already probably, right? |
05:53:20 | midknight2k3 | going = going away |
05:53:22 | midknight2k3 | right |
05:53:32 | Sebulba02 | guess checking permissions is out of the question |
05:54:09 | midknight2k3 | ok usr is out of the picture. nada anymore |
05:55:02 | Sebulba02 | home shouldn't have any issues |
05:55:08 | midknight2k3 | it dies. |
05:55:10 | midknight2k3 | does* |
05:55:24 | Sebulba02 | right click it and check the ownership |
05:55:36 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Bluechip |
05:55:36 | Bluechip | [04:53] <Bluechip> erase one file at a time |
05:55:52 | Sebulba02 | heh, yeah.. thats what it'll come down to |
05:56:03 | midknight2k3 | am doing the erase 1 at time |
05:56:07 | Bluechip | cut the chase <shrugs> |
05:56:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
05:56:41 | Bluechip | should that be "cut TO the chase"? |
05:56:47 | midknight2k3 | yes. |
05:56:49 | Sebulba02 | yeah |
05:59:35 | midknight2k3 | ill try norton utilites |
05:59:57 | Sebulba02 | cat /dev/random > midknight2k3 |
06:00 |
06:00:08 | midknight2k3 | WHAT AER YOU TALKING ABOUT! |
06:00:30 | Bluechip | cat dog |
06:00:42 | Sebulba02 | man woman ;) |
06:00:47 | Bluechip | lol |
06:00:48 | midknight2k3 | lol |
06:01:14 | midknight2k3 | while (dead_horse) { beat(); } |
06:01:19 | Bluechip | I found (by obvious accident) "lsd" on the office box one day ...just said "wooooww maannn" |
06:01:38 | Sebulba02 | Damn |
06:02:02 | Bluechip | and everybody denied responsibility |
06:02:17 | Sebulba02 | Of course. |
06:02:27 | midknight2k3 | man. |
06:02:29 | midknight2k3 | any other ideas |
06:02:38 | Bluechip | what files are left? |
06:02:40 | midknight2k3 | ill just install cygwin and leave whatevers left |
06:02:44 | midknight2k3 | a bit of "usr" |
06:02:47 | midknight2k3 | and home and rockbox |
06:02:49 | Sebulba02 | cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda |
06:02:54 | midknight2k3 | STOP THAT |
06:02:54 | Bluechip | that is NOT a file |
06:03:02 | midknight2k3 | sorry sir |
06:03:08 | Sebulba02 | yeah, what files are left? |
06:03:19 | midknight2k3 | dunn |
06:03:22 | midknight2k3 | dunno* |
06:03:56 | midknight2k3 | I DONT GET THIS1!!! GEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
06:04:10 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
06:04:10 | * | Sebulba02 .oO( ? ) |
06:04:18 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
06:04:19 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
06:04:22 | midknight2k3 | dfad |
06:04:23 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
06:04:23 | midknight2k3 | asfd |
06:04:24 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
06:04:24 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
06:04:32 | Bluechip | dd </dev/nul >/dev/hda |
06:04:38 | midknight2k3 | STOP! THAT!!!! |
06:04:43 | Sebulba02 | heh |
06:04:44 | midknight2k3 | GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
06:04:57 | Bluechip | [05:02] <Bluechip> what files are left? |
06:05:04 | midknight2k3 | SHUT UP |
06:05:11 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
06:05:11 | * | Sebulba02 yawns |
06:05:13 | Bluechip | tis done |
06:05:17 | midknight2k3 | what |
06:05:17 | midknight2k3 | what |
06:05:52 | midknight2k3 | v hu /m.ihpou9[p |
06:05:57 | midknight2k3 | i almost said "ipod" |
06:06:21 | midknight2k3 | bluechip didnt you make othelo |
06:06:33 | Bluechip | uh huh |
06:06:41 | Sebulba02 | spelled it wrong :P |
06:06:49 | midknight2k3 | no i didnt |
06:06:56 | Sebulba02 | othello |
06:06:56 | midknight2k3 | its not othello like most say |
06:06:57 | midknight2k3 | its othelo |
06:06:58 | Bluechip | 2 L's is copyright |
06:07:02 | midknight2k3 | SEE |
06:07:04 | midknight2k3 | HA HA |
06:07:06 | Sebulba02 | Ah |
06:07:06 | midknight2k3 | lol |
06:07:11 | Bluechip | O'TH'EE'LOW |
06:07:12 | midknight2k3 | you made othelo bluechip? |
06:07:30 | midknight2k3 | was it hard to make bluechip |
06:07:41 | Bluechip | not really |
06:07:43 | Sebulba02 | i bet the AI was the worst |
06:07:44 | Bluechip | the ai was fun |
06:07:49 | Sebulba02 | heh |
06:08:07 | midknight2k3 | but |
06:08:16 | Sebulba02 | I should get you to do the AI for my pacman.. ;) |
06:08:19 | midknight2k3 | why does it say CYBORG SYSTEMS ? |
06:08:27 | midknight2k3 | pacman? WHERE?! |
06:08:39 | Sebulba02 | My CVSROOT |
06:08:44 | midknight2k3 | I WANT TO TRY IT |
06:08:50 | Sebulba02 | good luck |
06:09:06 | Sebulba02 | In theory it could compile in windows |
06:09:12 | Bluechip | take a best route line - then add random for how good they are - sounds simple - but you may be surprised |
06:09:25 | Bluechip | decide length of travel before turn |
06:09:28 | Sebulba02 | I doubt it was simple. |
06:09:34 | midknight2k3 | Bluechip: why does it say cyborg systems? |
06:09:48 | Bluechip | did you rtfm? |
06:09:54 | midknight2k3 | there is no fm |
06:10:00 | Bluechip | oh yes there is |
06:10:03 | midknight2k3 | i will then |
06:10:03 | Bluechip | matey |
06:10:16 | Bluechip | both in the source code and in the official manual |
06:10:17 | Sebulba02 | oh, for pacman... yeah, I was told to research the astar algorythm for it. Never got that far |
06:10:28 | Bluechip | A* is real simple |
06:10:29 | midknight2k3 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/apps/plugins/othelo.txt |
06:10:45 | Bluechip | it's the one used by phone exchanges |
06:10:55 | Sebulba02 | really? |
06:10:58 | midknight2k3 | Greetz |
06:10:58 | midknight2k3 | ====== |
06:10:58 | midknight2k3 | mk, pajaco, DevZer0, jzoss, LinusN, Zagor, Cyborg, Lord Grumble |
06:10:58 | midknight2k3 | Author |
06:10:59 | Bluechip | but ovre the top for pacman - some uni bod musta said that |
06:11:03 | midknight2k3 | is that it |
06:11:09 | Sebulba02 | Maybe I'll be able to pick some of this up in my robotics class next semester |
06:11:16 | midknight2k3 | bluechip |
06:11:20 | Sebulba02 | yeah |
06:11:26 | midknight2k3 | mk, pajaco, DevZer0, jzoss, LinusN, Zagor, Cyborg, Lord Grumble |
06:11:31 | midknight2k3 | that cyborg? |
06:11:35 | Bluechip | pacman ghosts could be done VERY simply and with great effect |
06:11:47 | midknight2k3 | fine bluechip |
06:11:49 | midknight2k3 | ignore me |
06:12:00 | Bluechip | make s a change for it to be this way round |
06:12:07 | Sebulba02 | Mine are pretty simple. |
06:12:40 | midknight2k3 | ooh under greets is "mk" referring to me? |
06:12:50 | Bluechip | sadly not :( |
06:12:56 | midknight2k3 | AWW |
06:16:02 | midknight2k3 | GRRRR |
06:16:09 | midknight2k3 | "setup.exe" is causing an error |
06:16:14 | midknight2k3 | WHAT ELSE COULD GO WRONG |
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06:17:05 | * | midknight2k3 simply plugs in typical SDK |
06:18:31 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
06:18:35 | midknight2k3 | its running bash now |
06:18:36 | Bluechip | telling those helping you to shut up in bold caps? |
06:18:47 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
06:18:50 | midknight2k3 | NOO |
06:18:52 | midknight2k3 | DAMMIT! |
06:18:57 | midknight2k3 | oh wait |
06:19:05 | midknight2k3 | its a LINKAGE ERROR |
06:19:05 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
06:19:11 | midknight2k3 | not a STDIN ERROR |
06:20:20 | midknight2k3 | OHH |
06:20:25 | midknight2k3 | it got to ajbrec.ajz part |
06:20:29 | midknight2k3 | and gave an error: |
06:20:49 | midknight2k3 | _fopen64 could not be located in ... cygwin1.dll |
06:21:39 | Sebulba02 | Ouch |
06:21:49 | midknight2k3 | grr |
06:21:58 | midknight2k3 | ideas? |
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06:22:00 | midknight2k3 | comments? |
06:22:02 | | Nick ]MpC[Masskiller is now known as Masskiller (RIAA@bgp01039051bgs.southg01.mi.comcast.net) |
06:22:02 | midknight2k3 | suggestions? |
06:22:04 | midknight2k3 | ANYTHING |
06:22:04 | Masskiller | yes |
06:22:09 | midknight2k3 | RUN! ITS MASSKILLER! |
06:22:10 | Masskiller | i suggest you make it better |
06:22:14 | Masskiller | what are you talking about |
06:22:18 | midknight2k3 | lol |
06:22:20 | Bluechip | BAD CYGWIN INSTALL |
06:22:23 | Masskiller | oh |
06:22:33 | midknight2k3 | you tell 'em, bluechip |
06:22:56 | midknight2k3 | nm its installing |
06:22:57 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
06:23:30 | Bluechip | erase all cygwin , install my dev kit - lol |
06:23:30 | Bluechip | too simple! |
06:23:38 | Sebulba02 | heh |
06:23:54 | midknight2k3 | GRR |
06:23:57 | midknight2k3 | its not working yet |
06:23:58 | midknight2k3 | wait |
06:24:35 | | Quit ILuvit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
06:25:42 | midknight2k3 | RUN! ITS MASSKILLER! |
06:25:47 | Masskiller | .....lol |
06:25:51 | * | Masskiller runs |
06:26:10 | Sebulba02 | sup Masskiller? |
06:26:22 | midknight2k3 | lol |
06:28:14 | Sebulba02 | Beat Date : 2003-12-22 269.444 |
06:28:32 | Bluechip | zzzzzzzzzz |
06:28:41 | Sebulba02 | its getting there |
06:28:45 | midknight2k3 | lol |
06:29:03 | midknight2k3 | while (dead_horse) { beat(); } |
06:29:20 | Sebulba02 | while(1) { fork(); } |
06:33:00 | Sebulba02 | theres a good way to test my wireless card, run an opengl screensaver over vnc |
06:33:32 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
06:34:47 | Sebulba02 | foreach my $person (@room) { print $person; } |
06:35:04 | Sebulba02 | I should just goto sleep now |
06:35:08 | Bluechip | lol |
06:35:13 | Bluechip | ^D |
06:35:15 | midknight2k3 | s |
06:35:29 | Sebulba02 | unset(midknight2k3); |
06:35:36 | midknight2k3 | GRR |
06:35:37 | midknight2k3 | s |
06:35:38 | midknight2k3 | da |
06:35:38 | midknight2k3 | sfdad |
06:35:38 | midknight2k3 | fdfds |
06:35:38 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
06:35:38 | midknight2k3 | fds |
06:35:39 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
06:35:39 | midknight2k3 | fds |
06:35:42 | Sebulba02 | oops, forgot the $ |
06:35:42 | midknight2k3 | ddd |
06:35:43 | midknight2k3 | dd |
06:35:53 | Bluechip | lol |
06:39:59 | Sebulba02 | dd if=/dev/random of=midknight2k3 seek=500 size=1M |
06:40:07 | Sebulba02 | ;) |
06:40:18 | midknight2k3 | lol |
06:40:25 | Bluechip | 1M that should be sufficient |
06:40:43 | midknight2k3 | I NEED HELP |
06:40:45 | midknight2k3 | STUPID STUFF |
06:40:50 | Sebulba02 | Could be 1G? |
06:41:23 | midknight2k3 | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
06:41:24 | Sebulba02 | Still not removing, eh? Have you deleted all files you could? |
06:41:36 | midknight2k3 | ITS NOT WORKING |
06:41:38 | midknight2k3 | WAAAAAAAAAAAA |
06:41:47 | midknight2k3 | this is frustrating as hell |
06:41:56 | Bluechip | ur telling me? |
06:42:00 | midknight2k3 | i've been at this over an hour |
06:42:02 | Sebulba02 | heh |
06:42:05 | midknight2k3 | i've gone nowhere |
06:42:05 | Sebulba02 | pff |
06:42:18 | midknight2k3 | or is that two hours |
06:42:22 | Bluechip | should learn to take the advice you ask for |
06:42:30 | Sebulba02 | I spent 3 solid days installing linux on my laptop, that was fustrating as hell |
06:42:37 | midknight2k3 | bluechip: WELL? |
06:42:54 | Bluechip | 04:50 ..... which files are left? |
06:43:09 | Sebulba02 | the $1M question |
06:43:20 | midknight2k3 | and i told you and you go off on "those ARENT FILES!" |
06:43:31 | Bluechip | easy seb, i only asked five times - not a million - lol |
06:43:41 | Sebulba02 | fine fine, fair enough |
06:43:46 | midknight2k3 | i repeat, the folders: home, rockbox, usr |
06:43:56 | Sebulba02 | but what files in them are left? |
06:44:00 | Bluechip | folders are NOT files |
06:44:07 | Bluechip | they are .... |
06:44:09 | Sebulba02 | heh |
06:44:12 | Bluechip | FOLDERS - tahaaaaaaa |
06:45:11 | midknight2k3 | NOO |
06:45:17 | midknight2k3 | i did rm -r c:\cygwin |
06:45:21 | midknight2k3 | and it deleted cygwin.bat |
06:45:26 | midknight2k3 | so i cant rm anymore |
06:45:28 | midknight2k3 | WTF |
06:45:36 | Bluechip | you |
06:45:38 | Bluechip | cannot |
06:45:40 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
06:45:42 | Bluechip | erase |
06:45:45 | Bluechip | cygwin |
06:45:48 | Bluechip | within |
06:45:52 | midknight2k3 | i sorta noticed. |
06:45:53 | Bluechip | bash |
06:46:08 | midknight2k3 | GRR WHY CANT IT JUST WORK |
06:46:40 | Bluechip | think your mind is on being angry rather than [05:42] <Bluechip> 04:50 ..... which files are left? |
06:46:51 | midknight2k3 | YOU AsKED ME THAT |
06:47:08 | Bluechip | ahhaaa, you should find a good answer then :) |
06:47:28 | Bluechip | IF you think you can? |
06:47:30 | Sebulba02 | ahh |
06:47:47 | Sebulba02 | rmdir /s C:\cygwin\ |
06:47:55 | Bluechip | stoppit |
06:47:56 | Bluechip | lol |
06:48:09 | midknight2k3 | am i sure? |
06:48:16 | midknight2k3 | (Y/N) |
06:48:23 | Sebulba02 | Do you feel... *LUCKY*? |
06:48:28 | midknight2k3 | should i |
06:48:29 | Bluechip | rmdir /s ....you serious? |
06:48:31 | Bluechip | cool |
06:48:35 | Bluechip | that's a new one |
06:48:36 | Sebulba02 | = deltree |
06:48:36 | midknight2k3 | what |
06:48:38 | midknight2k3 | should i |
06:48:42 | Sebulba02 | for winxp |
06:48:43 | midknight2k3 | are you sure |
06:48:52 | midknight2k3 | shall i? |
06:48:54 | Sebulba02 | I'm not sure of anything with windows |
06:49:00 | Sebulba02 | your box :) |
06:49:05 | midknight2k3 | will it do just c:\cygwin or the whole disk? |
06:49:18 | Bluechip | yes |
06:49:18 | midknight2k3 | i can tell. itll messup and delete everything |
06:49:21 | Sebulba02 | C:\cygwin, supposedly, but you know m$ |
06:49:53 | Bluechip | mk, for the record I no longer care not want to know about the files :) |
06:50:01 | midknight2k3 | C:\cygwin>rmdir /s c:\cygwin |
06:50:01 | midknight2k3 | c:\cygwin, Are you sure (Y/N)? |
06:50:03 | Bluechip | not->nor |
06:50:09 | midknight2k3 | are you sure bc? |
06:50:27 | Bluechip | yeah, thanks :) |
06:50:33 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
06:50:36 | midknight2k3 | a whole buncha stuff |
06:50:41 | Sebulba02 | heh |
06:50:43 | midknight2k3 | eveerything is "access is denied" |
06:51:03 | Sebulba02 | eh, so much for the power (or lack of) DOS. If it ever really had any. |
06:51:21 | Bluechip | slap Sebulba02 |
06:51:21 | Sebulba02 | i bet the permissions are just messed up |
06:51:23 | midknight2k3 | bc: anymore ideas before? |
06:51:28 | * | midknight2k3 slaps Sebulba02 around a bit with a large trout |
06:51:32 | Bluechip | not for me thanks |
06:52:21 | Sebulba02 | you can change permissions in winxp, can't you? |
06:52:33 | midknight2k3 | i dunno |
06:52:35 | midknight2k3 | FORGET IT |
06:52:39 | midknight2k3 | its not about to work |
06:52:44 | Bluechip | such a polite man |
06:52:54 | Sebulba02 | then again, as admin it shouldn't matter |
06:52:58 | midknight2k3 | right |
06:53:02 | midknight2k3 | never mind thanks all anyways |
06:53:17 | Sebulba02 | eh, boot off a knoppix disc, mount the drive and delete it :) |
06:53:29 | midknight2k3 | OOOOH |
06:53:31 | midknight2k3 | thats a great idea |
06:53:34 | midknight2k3 | i have knoppix right here |
06:53:38 | Sebulba02 | assming you can write to NTFS |
06:53:39 | Bluechip | sysinternals do a nice CTFS disk |
06:53:44 | Bluechip | NTFS |
06:54:10 | Sebulba02 | I never played with those |
06:54:21 | midknight2k3 | i have knoppix |
06:54:25 | midknight2k3 | but how can i do it |
06:55:07 | Sebulba02 | well, you need ntfs write, which is only supported in kernel 2.4.2[2|3], I think. |
06:55:14 | Sebulba02 | and probably 2.6 |
06:55:21 | midknight2k3 | er |
06:55:44 | midknight2k3 | i changed my mind |
06:55:47 | midknight2k3 | forget it. :D |
06:55:51 | Sebulba02 | even then, i think its still EXPERIMENTAL and USE AT YOU OWN RISK type deal. |
06:55:53 | midknight2k3 | is there a way to JUST BUILD PLUGINS? |
06:56:07 | Sebulba02 | make plugins? |
06:56:16 | midknight2k3 | what |
06:56:20 | midknight2k3 | you can do "make plugins? |
06:56:21 | Sebulba02 | or maybe `make rocks` |
06:56:48 | midknight2k3 | IF THAT WORKS.... |
06:57:03 | Sebulba02 | function me() throws rocks { while (1) { } } |
06:57:23 | midknight2k3 | lol |
06:57:33 | midknight2k3 | while (dead_horse) { beat(); } |
06:57:42 | Bluechip | lol |
06:57:46 | Sebulba02 | I've come up with far better than that :) |
06:57:56 | midknight2k3 | i like it. |
06:58:11 | Bluechip | while(angry) |
06:58:34 | midknight2k3 | while (sebulba02_stupid) { printf("It's always like this..."\n); } |
06:58:43 | Sebulba02 | while (angry) { beat(midknight2k3); } |
06:58:50 | midknight2k3 | hey! |
06:59:07 | Sebulba02 | and your syntax is wrong, the \n has to be inside the quites |
06:59:12 | Sebulba02 | quotes* |
06:59:15 | midknight2k3 | oh yeah |
06:59:20 | midknight2k3 | i feel dumb |
06:59:28 | midknight2k3 | i hate feeling dumb when i'm not |
06:59:41 | Bluechip | lol |
06:59:41 | Sebulba02 | stuff happens |
07:00 |
07:00:00 | Sebulba02 | Is that better or worse than feeling smart when your not? |
07:00:00 | Bluechip | mk: so dont do it!? |
07:00:07 | midknight2k3 | SDD YOU DFADS! ASDF AHEAD! |
07:00:18 | Bluechip | i'd rather be an optimist and wrong than a pesemist and right |
07:00:28 | midknight2k3 | I SDD: ASDF AHEAD! |
07:00:32 | midknight2k3 | ADSF ASDF |
07:00:39 | midknight2k3 | LO |
07:00:42 | midknight2k3 | lol |
07:00:45 | midknight2k3 | Bluechip |
07:00:49 | midknight2k3 | sdedd |
07:00:55 | Sebulba02 | I'm a big pesemist, so I have a hard time with that one. |
07:01:07 | midknight2k3 | pesemist? |
07:01:30 | midknight2k3 | you people are bad sdd |
07:01:39 | midknight2k3 | sdd = spelling dur dur |
07:01:41 | midknight2k3 | s |
07:01:51 | Sebulba02 | wow, that was butchered |
07:01:57 | Sebulba02 | pessimist |
07:02:03 | midknight2k3 | yes it was |
07:02:17 | midknight2k3 | you even got time to go look it up |
07:02:18 | midknight2k3 | lucky you |
07:02:35 | Sebulba02 | then again, its 1a here and 6a for him, so I don't think we can be to blame. |
07:04:09 | midknight2k3 | trying to make rb |
07:04:22 | midknight2k3 | LOL @ mozilla error |
07:04:28 | Sebulba02 | mozilla? |
07:04:55 | midknight2k3 | "<file> could not be opened, because an unknown error occurred. Sorry about that. Try saving to disk first." |
07:05:05 | Sebulba02 | heh |
07:05:11 | Sebulba02 | I've had that before. |
07:05:25 | midknight2k3 | lol |
07:05:43 | Sebulba02 | Ideally I'd put, "Something got really f*cked up here & its not my fault, save to disk first" |
07:05:55 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
07:06:05 | midknight2k3 | Sebulba02: let me give you a tip |
07:06:06 | | Quit hardeep ("BitchX: double your pleasure, double your fun!") |
07:06:10 | midknight2k3 | never become a programmer |
07:06:16 | Sebulba02 | too late |
07:06:26 | midknight2k3 | OH NO |
07:07:10 | midknight2k3 | man |
07:07:12 | midknight2k3 | my tools |
07:07:17 | midknight2k3 | OH in the recycle bin |
07:08:02 | Sebulba02 | mv "recycle bin" /bit/bucket |
07:08:20 | midknight2k3 | a bit dirty they are sure to be |
07:08:23 | midknight2k3 | but they may work yet |
07:08:29 | Sebulba02 | NOP |
07:08:42 | midknight2k3 | EAT ME! |
07:08:49 | * | Sebulba02 throws some NOPs at Bluechip. |
07:09:01 | midknight2k3 | why is it trying to MAKE the tools |
07:09:15 | Sebulba02 | because you have to build them before you can use them |
07:09:25 | midknight2k3 | they are already there compiled |
07:09:40 | midknight2k3 | I KNOW WHATS MISSING |
07:09:43 | midknight2k3 | its a tool missing |
07:09:45 | Sebulba02 | if it thought that, then it wouldn't be building them |
07:10:55 | midknight2k3 | its working |
07:10:56 | midknight2k3 | yay |
07:12:05 | midknight2k3 | if (Sebulba02_stupid) { printf("Ha ha, you're stupid like always\n"); } else { printf("You'll NEVER see this message. EVER.\n"); } |
07:12:57 | Sebulba02 | Lets see what language I can use now. |
07:13:31 | Bluechip | here come the regexs |
07:13:44 | Sebulba02 | hehe, too early for that, good thought though |
07:14:15 | Sebulba02 | I was trying to digup some asm. |
07:14:16 | midknight2k3 | ITS MAKING THE PLUGINS |
07:14:17 | midknight2k3 | YESS |
07:14:21 | midknight2k3 | can you FEEL THAT |
07:14:23 | midknight2k3 | it COMPILED |
07:14:28 | midknight2k3 | GRR YEAH |
07:14:30 | midknight2k3 | MM HMM |
07:14:35 | midknight2k3 | TASTE THIS, CYGWIN!! |
07:14:40 | midknight2k3 | er... |
07:14:45 | midknight2k3 | continue, as you were. |
07:15:01 | Sebulba02 | dang, I coulda had it compiled twice by now |
07:15:19 | midknight2k3 | i said nothing |
07:15:26 | midknight2k3 | move along, folks, move along! |
07:17:24 | Sebulba02 | eregi_replace("midknight2k3", null, $world); |
07:17:42 | Sebulba02 | Simple, but sweet |
07:17:49 | midknight2k3 | just_make_this_work_please(SHUT SEBULBA UP NOW!); |
07:19:49 | Sebulba02 | SELECT name FROM world WHERE clue=1; |
07:19:49 | Sebulba02 | empty set (0.00 sec) |
07:19:59 | midknight2k3 | shut up |
07:20:01 | midknight2k3 | if my code works |
07:20:59 | Sebulba02 | still compiling or debugging? |
07:21:15 | midknight2k3 | compiled |
07:21:15 | midknight2k3 | fully |
07:21:18 | midknight2k3 | THK GOD |
07:21:49 | midknight2k3 | LMAO |
07:22:01 | midknight2k3 | the clock.. its like .. a dot! |
07:22:36 | Sebulba02 | gdb core `which midknight2k3` |
07:22:50 | midknight2k3 | SSHHH |
07:23:54 | Bluechip | more finger midknight2k3 |
07:24:14 | midknight2k3 | sdf |
07:24:18 | Sebulba02 | sleep(); |
07:24:26 | Bluechip | wake() |
07:24:40 | Sebulba02 | kill(); |
07:24:53 | Bluechip | -9 |
07:25:02 | Sebulba02 | nah, create() :) |
07:25:17 | Bluechip | going for the full kill -9 effect |
07:25:47 | Sebulba02 | kill -9 `ps aux | grep midknight2k3 | awk {'print $1'}` |
07:25:53 | Bluechip | fork(off?yes:no); |
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07:26:22 | Sebulba02 | heh |
07:28:14 | Sebulba02 | sem_wait(&me); |
07:30:54 | Sebulba02 | while(!awake) { sleep(); } |
07:31:00 | Bluechip | lol |
07:31:33 | Bluechip | for(;!awake;sleep()); |
07:31:39 | midknight2k3 | gotta go, bye all |
07:31:42 | midknight2k3 | thanks for help |
07:31:44 | Bluechip | lazy coders of the world unite |
07:31:47 | Sebulba02 | np |
07:31:49 | Bluechip | nite dude |
07:31:53 | Sebulba02 | heh |
07:31:54 | midknight2k3 | nite |
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07:32:18 | Bluechip | got the masf functions back in the sim :) |
07:32:32 | Sebulba02 | cool |
07:32:35 | Masskiller | its so funny |
07:32:43 | Masskiller | when you have conversations in code |
07:32:43 | Masskiller | lol |
07:32:49 | Bluechip | just have to work out the little makefile bodge a bit more carefully |
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07:33:24 | Sebulba02 | hmm |
07:34:22 | Bluechip | need to pass -DARCHOS_RECORDER to the win32 makefile and NOT embed it in there! |
07:35:01 | Sebulba02 | make it a part of configure? |
07:35:14 | Bluechip | think so, yes |
07:36:14 | Sebulba02 | cd me/; ./configure −−with-bed=/dev/here; |
07:36:42 | Sebulba02 | nice having a laptop |
07:37:29 | Bluechip | for(bc==tired; !alarm; sleep()); |
07:38:07 | Bluechip | nite all |
07:38:08 | Sebulba02 | for(bc==tired; alarm; sleep()) { smash(alarm); sleep(); } |
07:38:16 | Bluechip | lol |
07:38:23 | Sebulba02 | or maybe throw() |
07:38:46 | Bluechip | no, cos if you throw it you wont go back to sleep! |
07:38:51 | Sebulba02 | yeah, its bed time. |
07:38:56 | Sebulba02 | true |
07:39:05 | Bluechip | unlike me |
07:39:07 | Bluechip | NOW |
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07:39:17 | Sebulba02 | 'night |
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12:38:09 | citrix7 | hello all |
12:38:27 | webmind | oi |
12:38:37 | citrix7 | i have a few questions, can anyone help me out a bit? |
12:40:12 | webmind | ask and see |
12:40:36 | citrix7 | k. well, i have not upgraded my recorder 15 yet (just got it) anywa... |
12:40:45 | citrix7 | my question is more about the unit. |
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12:41:05 | citrix7 | i got it on a trade from this guy, and the batteries were totally dead...... |
12:41:26 | citrix7 | so i have been charging them for about 1.5 hours and the site says i can turn on the unit now |
12:41:37 | citrix7 | but it does not turn on, only yhe charge screen |
12:41:56 | citrix7 | is this normal, or do i just need a long charge? |
12:42:09 | Hadaka | the batteries might be really dead - as in, not holding charge at all really - so you'd have to get new batteries |
12:42:31 | Hadaka | 1.5h should be plenty for any normal batteries to charge enough to power up the unit |
12:43:01 | webmind | citrix7, how lonjg have you pressed the 'on' button ? |
12:43:11 | citrix7 | hmm..ok. i live in israel at the moment, and those are expensive here, so i wanted to make sure before i bought. |
12:43:17 | Hadaka | oh, right |
12:43:23 | Hadaka | if you don't disconnect it from the power |
12:43:30 | Hadaka | you need to hold down the 'on' button until it boots totally |
12:43:33 | citrix7 | i got the unit to work using some of my friends rechargeable batts |
12:44:25 | citrix7 | well, i did get the unit for $50, so i guess new batts are ok. |
12:44:54 | Hadaka | how much are the batts over there? |
12:45:06 | citrix7 | not sure, but everything is expensive here. a real rip off |
12:45:15 | Hadaka | nods |
12:45:48 | Hadaka | I can get four for... something like 25 euros, probably cheaper if trying to find the right place to buy |
12:46:11 | citrix7 | oh.....and BTW - i am using a diff power supply. a universal for 9 volts. |
12:46:20 | Hadaka | that should be fine |
12:46:43 | citrix7 | but the package says 9v 50 0Ma |
12:46:43 | Hadaka | unless it's a very low power version |
12:46:51 | citrix7 | 500ma |
12:47:23 | citrix7 | it says "charging" but now im not sure. |
12:47:25 | webmind | 500ma sounds a bit low... |
12:47:27 | Hadaka | hmmh, that's on the low end I think |
12:47:35 | webmind | i know my hd takes 1a |
12:47:40 | Hadaka | so it might take longer to charge |
12:47:50 | Hadaka | webmind: the charger can't power the hd alone anyway |
12:47:56 | webmind | Hadaka, uhuh |
12:48:01 | citrix7 | ah... so this could be the problem |
12:48:10 | citrix7 | not enough power in the charger |
12:48:21 | Hadaka | well, I believe it should charge still |
12:48:25 | Hadaka | albeit slower |
12:48:41 | citrix7 | ok, i eill let it go for the night and see after that. |
12:48:44 | Hadaka | except if the batteries are really dead, and it can't provide the initial current to "wake" the cells again |
12:48:49 | Hadaka | but that's bad batteries already again |
12:48:54 | citrix7 | hmm. ok |
12:49:43 | citrix7 | another thing.....i was kinda in the market for a ipod or something, until i happen to get offered this unit. am i missing alot by having an older unit like this instead of a new ipod or zen? |
12:49:55 | citrix7 | cuz i think the recorder 15 is older right? |
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14:26:23 | kurzhaarrocker | Has the internationalization for plugins been kicked out? |
14:26:36 | ^^neo^^ | hey hi |
14:26:43 | kurzhaarrocker | hi |
14:27:02 | ^^neo^^ | du hast doch deinen archos auch schon aueinander genommen oder ? |
14:27:48 | ^^neo^^ | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/disassemble2.html weil so wie das da steht will das nich ganz funktionieren oder is das beim recorder anderst? |
14:28:20 | kurzhaarrocker | Das ist meiner von innen: http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/recorder.html |
14:28:43 | webmind | english! |
14:29:08 | kurzhaarrocker | oh, sorry. |
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16:59:00 | ^^neo^^ | somone here could help? |
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17:05:28 | woddsch | Concerning what? |
17:06:11 | ^^neo^^ | My Hdd gets no power from the archos |
17:06:35 | woddsch | And it has worked before? |
17:06:51 | ^^neo^^ | yes and the hdd stil works un my computer |
17:07:33 | woddsch | You mean when you disassemble the device and plug the HDD into your computer or via USB? |
17:07:57 | ^^neo^^ | I have dissasambled the archos because I wanted to look why my DC was sitting wrong |
17:08:34 | ^^neo^^ | in the computer |
17:08:34 | woddsch | Does it work when you've plugged in the charger? |
17:08:39 | ^^neo^^ | no |
17:08:55 | ^^neo^^ | I hear no sound |
17:09:17 | woddsch | Does it even start up? |
17:09:19 | ^^neo^^ | and while trying to boot I get an error like "HDD register error" |
17:09:41 | ^^neo^^ | but it doesnt make any sound |
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17:10:54 | ^^neo^^ | any idea? |
17:11:02 | woddsch | Do you use the HDD delivered by the manufactor? |
17:11:16 | ^^neo^^ | yes hitach 20gb |
17:12:34 | woddsch | sorry no idea... you ought to have a look at the mailinglist history.. |
17:12:53 | woddsch | perhaps someone has reported the same error.. |
17:12:53 | ^^neo^^ | hmm |
17:13:20 | ^^neo^^ | is there a search option? |
17:13:52 | woddsch | You may use the search option on the left for the whole site... |
17:15:04 | ^^neo^^ | it kicks me to google |
17:15:35 | woddsch | What's wrong with that? Google is an excellent search engine.. all results point to the rockbox homepage.. |
17:16:01 | woddsch | What happens if you start the Archos Firmware? |
17:16:28 | ^^neo^^ | I have found one |
17:16:33 | ^^neo^^ | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-07/0296.shtml |
17:18:33 | woddsch | Zagor once recommended to fully charge the batteries in such a case. |
17:19:23 | ^^neo^^ | yes I had this problem one but even there the hdd made a sound |
17:19:38 | woddsch | Anyway you ought to ask one of the rockbox developers... sorry but I have to leave now.. cu |
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18:20:27 | GOD | not here.. |
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18:22:28 | diddystar5 | yepyepyep |
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18:44:40 | diddystar5 | hey Bluechip |
18:44:47 | Bluechip | yo |
18:44:49 | diddystar5 | hows winamp 5? |
18:45:17 | Bluechip | still not played yet - been working on rockBox - nice icon though ;) |
18:45:27 | diddystar5 | lol |
18:45:29 | diddystar5 | yeah |
18:45:39 | Bluechip | your work? |
18:45:48 | diddystar5 | im making a very good version of rockbox |
18:45:53 | diddystar5 | no |
18:46:11 | diddystar5 | this verison of rockbox is gona be pimped out! :) |
18:47:46 | diddystar5 | if it turns out well, i might even release it on the mail list to see what people think |
18:47:49 | Bluechip | is it a secret or are you sharing yur cool ideas? |
18:48:02 | diddystar5 | ohh, its a secret |
18:48:05 | diddystar5 | not really |
18:48:26 | diddystar5 | i just gonnaadd some patches, and some othere stuff that i thought would e cool |
18:48:44 | Bluechip | great |
18:49:06 | Bluechip | glad we're not doubling up on work :) |
18:49:24 | diddystar5 | i have made some versions like this a long time ago, but i never released any of them |
18:50:18 | Bluechip | shame |
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18:52:05 | anz | hi all |
18:52:18 | diddystar5 | hi |
18:52:30 | GOD | yo anz |
18:52:40 | anz | I have a little question ... |
18:52:42 | diddystar5 | Bluechip: why not port the x11 sim to win32, that way it wouldbe nice and much less bugy! |
18:53:14 | anz | I would like to know if it is possible to do a MPC plugin for Jukebox ? |
18:53:23 | diddystar5 | MPC? |
18:53:32 | anz | yes it's an audio format |
18:53:34 | anz | like MP3 |
18:53:35 | GOD | lol i have an av300 so i dunno about the jbmm |
18:53:48 | Bluechip | diddy: what bugs are in the win32 sim? |
18:54:07 | Bluechip | anz: maybe in the future, but certainly not at the moment :( |
18:54:41 | anz | Bluechip> I'm a developper, I just want to know if it's possible |
18:54:51 | diddystar5 | Bluechip: like when i have the sim open, and i open something else over it, it crashes |
18:55:20 | Bluechip | what does "crash" mean? |
18:55:20 | diddystar5 | anz: it may be possible, but would be difficult |
18:55:54 | diddystar5 | Bluechip: well like the screen turns off, the archos pic goes away, etc, i have to restart it to get it back |
18:56:09 | diddystar5 | Bluechip: i could make a screenshot of it |
18:56:17 | Bluechip | I know it ... its a redisplay error . |
18:56:37 | Bluechip | to refresh the BMP drag it off the bottom of the screen and back on again |
18:56:51 | Bluechip | to refresh the GUI press any key |
18:57:09 | Bluechip | need someone who understands the windows message pump to help fix that |
18:57:24 | diddystar5 | ohh your new display fix helps it! |
18:57:39 | Bluechip | yes, you can tell the time if it starts with a "1" now :) |
18:58:00 | Bluechip | just finished the recorder updates, but have broken the player in the process |
18:58:27 | Bluechip | you can now get use all the recorder specific screens :) |
18:58:28 | anz | It would be great the plugins for ogg, mp3pro and mpc ... |
18:58:54 | Bluechip | anz: read last nights log for more info on codec (especially ogg) support :) |
18:59:00 | anz | thx |
18:59:28 | Bluechip | we fist need to suss WAV support - start small :) |
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19:00:34 | anz | yes we could |
19:00:47 | Bluechip | got a better idea ?:) |
19:01:18 | anz | begin with .Wav it's a good idea |
19:01:26 | ^^neo^^ | hey I have disassembled my Archos because I wanted to glue my DC-in, now my HD gets no more power from the Archos, what did I do wrong? |
19:01:28 | Bluechip | got any DSP experience |
19:02:02 | Bluechip | neo: check the voltage lines to the hdd with a multimeter |
19:02:09 | Bluechip | neo: check the hdd in a computer |
19:02:24 | ^^neo^^ | it worked in my computer |
19:02:29 | ^^neo^^ | must be the archos |
19:02:29 | anz | I think I ought to write a MPCtoMp3 converter :-) |
19:02:49 | Bluechip | okay - check 1 [X] :) ...now check the voltage lines are sound |
19:03:13 | Bluechip | ....does the drive spin AT ALL??? |
19:03:18 | ^^neo^^ | nothing |
19:03:24 | Bluechip | power supply |
19:03:35 | ^^neo^^ | charger is plugged in |
19:03:44 | Bluechip | runs off batteries |
19:03:51 | Bluechip | recorder v1 yes? |
19:04:07 | ^^neo^^ | v1 ? |
19:04:17 | Bluechip | AA batteries |
19:04:20 | ^^neo^^ | yes |
19:04:28 | Bluechip | it always runs off batteries |
19:04:44 | ^^neo^^ | I dont have batteries inside atm |
19:04:52 | ^^neo^^ | only the charger |
19:04:52 | Bluechip | that'll be your problem :) |
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19:04:56 | ^^neo^^ | no no |
19:05:23 | ILuvit | hi guys |
19:05:23 | ^^neo^^ | when I put my batteries inside my archos doesent turn on |
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19:05:35 | Bluechip | hi luv |
19:05:52 | Bluechip | are the batteries charger? |
19:05:56 | Bluechip | ed |
19:06:21 | ^^neo^^ | yes but external |
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19:06:56 | Bluechip | no matter how - charged is good |
19:07:04 | ^^neo^^ | yes |
19:07:07 | Bluechip | can you check the charge with a mm |
19:07:11 | Bluechip | ? |
19:07:13 | ^^neo^^ | but the problem is in my archso |
19:07:19 | ^^neo^^ | the batteries are ok |
19:07:24 | ^^neo^^ | walkman works |
19:07:46 | anz | bye all |
19:07:47 | ^^neo^^ | maybe something is broken in my archos |
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19:07:53 | Bluechip | okay - so with batteries IN *and* connected to charger - unit powers up but hdd does not spin?? |
19:08:12 | ^^neo^^ | yes |
19:08:28 | Bluechip | stops at blob 3 or 4 on boot screen?? |
19:08:32 | ^^neo^^ | and then while trying to boot I get a HD register error |
19:08:37 | ^^neo^^ | yes |
19:08:40 | ^^neo^^ | 3. |
19:08:57 | Bluechip | archos or rockbox ROM firmware? |
19:09:04 | Bluechip | Ie. "flashed?" |
19:09:08 | ^^neo^^ | rockbox |
19:09:11 | ^^neo^^ | hmm? |
19:09:26 | ^^neo^^ | original 0.28 |
19:09:30 | ^^neo^^ | but I use rockbox |
19:09:41 | Bluechip | did you flash the ROM chip ? |
19:09:44 | ^^neo^^ | no |
19:09:46 | Bluechip | ok |
19:09:52 | ILuvit | i have the FM Recorder and i flashed it, whem i plug it in to charg even after 6 hrs the battery indicator still blink like it is charging, is this a problem? |
19:10:05 | ^^neo^^ | this is my code |
19:10:06 | ^^neo^^ | > SC1 (85) 227 |
19:10:06 | ^^neo^^ | > SN1 (170) 0 |
19:10:06 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK ^^neo^^ |
19:10:06 | ^^neo^^ | > SC2 (170) 18 |
19:10:06 | ^^neo^^ | > SN2 (85) 211 |
19:10:19 | Bluechip | hdd not spinning is FAR more relevant :) |
19:10:31 | Bluechip | your hdd is not getting any power |
19:10:38 | ^^neo^^ | from the archos right |
19:10:43 | Bluechip | this will be a dodgy connection of some kind |
19:10:44 | Bluechip | yes |
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19:11:32 | Bluechip | luv: sorry, don't know - this charging algorithm stuff leaves me cold :( |
19:12:11 | ILuvit | thanks Blu |
19:12:58 | Bluechip | neo: do you have a multi-meter or volt-memter? |
19:13:14 | ^^neo^^ | no sorry |
19:13:30 | Bluechip | hmmmmm, got a spare fiver? |
19:13:40 | ^^neo^^ | huuh whats that? |
19:13:48 | ^^neo^^ | sry not english |
19:13:48 | Bluechip | sorry - uk slang for £5 |
19:13:56 | ^^neo^^ | 5€ ? |
19:14:08 | ^^neo^^ | hm maybe a friend has got one |
19:14:17 | Bluechip | E1.6 -> £1 |
19:14:41 | Bluechip | (must get euro symbol and umlauts on keyboard) |
19:15:02 | Bluechip | any hobby electronics guy or electrician will have one |
19:15:08 | ^^neo^^ | are you german? |
19:15:12 | Bluechip | uk |
19:15:27 | Bluechip | lots of german friends |
19:15:28 | ^^neo^^ | hm the word umlaut is german :) |
19:16:03 | Bluechip | little dots over the vowels to modify the sound to have a rounded "ee" ending |
19:16:15 | Bluechip | much like the irish fada |
19:16:29 | ^^neo^^ | °° ? |
19:16:46 | ^^neo^^ | hmmm |
19:17:52 | ^^neo^^ | no matter |
19:18:10 | ^^neo^^ | what can I do without this Vol-emeter? |
19:18:31 | Bluechip | hmmmm |
19:19:14 | ^^neo^^ | or what did I do wrong by disassembling the Achos? |
19:19:33 | Bluechip | you could lash together a 6v light bult with kitchen baggie ties and be careful |
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19:20:15 | Bluechip | but you will likely need some accurate numbers |
19:20:20 | ^^neo^^ | I have a screwdriver with integrated light |
19:20:28 | Dogger | hi does anyone know much about i2c interface etc? any docs on it? |
19:20:50 | Bluechip | dog: tonnes all over the net :) it's no secret :) |
19:21:26 | Bluechip | there is an i2c driver in the rockbox code ! |
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19:21:35 | Dogger | ok, will take a look further |
19:21:45 | Bluechip | ask again if you get stuck :) |
19:22:23 | Bluechip | dogg: http://www.ping.be/~ping0751/i2c2.htm |
19:23:17 | Dogger | I am writing an emulator for the i2c on jbmm/av100/av300 see |
19:23:28 | Dogger | I have identified the addresses etc, |
19:23:38 | Dogger | but have no idea what its expecting back from i2c |
19:23:41 | Dogger | eg ack etc |
19:23:46 | Bluechip | should be pretty simple ...it's just a serial interface with a standardised format :) |
19:24:09 | Dogger | cool |
19:24:17 | Dogger | why is it bit based tho |
19:24:22 | Dogger | isnt that pretty slow? |
19:25:40 | Bluechip | you can bash 1 bit data at higer speeds than parallel data nowdays - but in these appliances it is more about cheap motherboards and why develop a high speed board to pass around low speed data? |
19:25:55 | Dogger | sure ok, |
19:26:04 | Dogger | the other thing I need to emulate is the ATA |
19:26:13 | Dogger | it seems to be issuing an e1 command |
19:26:20 | Dogger | which isnt listed in the rockbox ata.c |
19:26:23 | Dogger | any ideas? |
19:26:35 | Bluechip | i have some ata docs somwhere, but buried :( ...they are NOT so easy to track down :( |
19:26:59 | Dogger | ok, it also seems to be using command a0 to read sectors |
19:27:15 | Bluechip | you could pop onto the OFFA or MIPSX groups on Yahoo - there are people there who understand *if* you can get them to help |
19:27:17 | Dogger | my emulator gets to the point on the av300 where it tries to read the partition sector |
19:27:29 | Dogger | ok, might take a look thanks |
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19:29:14 | midknight2k3 | hi all |
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19:29:22 | midknight2k3 | populated in here |
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19:31:50 | Bluechip | diddystar5 ??? |
19:32:00 | midknight2k3 | ?? |
19:32:15 | diddystar5 | WHAT? |
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19:32:50 | Bluechip | could you do me a favour and post a favourable comment on sourceforge against the win32sim screen patch please? |
19:33:14 | Bluechip | "checked, it works" would be sufficient :) |
19:33:23 | diddystar5 | sure thing |
19:33:51 | diddystar5 | but it really is good anyway! |
19:34:04 | midknight2k3 | does it work? |
19:34:10 | midknight2k3 | if it does great work bluechip |
19:34:18 | midknight2k3 | that bug bugged me |
19:34:44 | diddystar5 | but it still dosent make the sim complete good enough for me! :) i need a MAS emulator |
19:35:21 | Bluechip | hardware emulation, or just gui emulation? |
19:35:56 | diddystar5 | hardware, i want to test code that does mas reads |
19:36:09 | diddystar5 | so really the sim would also need to be able to play sound |
19:36:21 | diddystar5 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=863775&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
19:36:44 | Bluechip | you could forge a bunch of values ...but you can forget sound-chip emulation |
19:39:21 | Bluechip | cheers diddy |
19:40:46 | diddystar5 | :( |
19:41:02 | midknight2k3 | whaa |
19:41:50 | Bluechip | with time you ould probably write a direct-x module which would emulate the MASF bass roll features to a modest degree - but you'll probably never get it JUST right |
19:42:09 | Bluechip | I hope you maths is hotter than Venus :) |
19:42:40 | diddystar5 | well, if i could get sound out of the sim and get a somewhat accurate value from mas reads it would be fine |
19:43:02 | diddystar5 | but i have no idea how to make it work |
19:43:20 | midknight2k3 | just fix your box :D |
19:43:20 | Bluechip | for sound you could use the mad winamp plugin |
19:43:52 | Bluechip | that should be quite easy |
19:44:16 | Bluechip | for register values, just have a big array of numbers and update them as you need to |
19:44:18 | diddystar5 | do it bluechip! i have no idea how to |
19:44:29 | diddystar5 | please |
19:44:31 | Bluechip | project does not interest me :( |
19:44:37 | Bluechip | i have bigger things afoot |
19:44:57 | midknight2k3 | for rockbox, Bluechip? |
19:45:01 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
19:45:01 | * | midknight2k3 salivates |
19:53:01 | Bluechip | no, i just have size 16 feet :) |
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19:54:34 | midknight2k3 | hi |
19:54:37 | hardeep | hi |
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20:25:19 | midknight2k3 | bye diddy |
20:25:29 | diddystar5 | by every1 |
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20:25:33 | Bluechip | byeeeee |
20:25:37 | midknight2k3 | too late. |
20:25:38 | midknight2k3 | lol |
20:25:43 | Bluechip | lol |
20:25:54 | Bluechip | well ...the thought was there :) |
20:26:00 | midknight2k3 | lol |
20:26:18 | midknight2k3 | ttc |
20:26:30 | Bluechip | :) |
20:26:36 | midknight2k3 | we |
20:26:39 | midknight2k3 | er* |
20:26:45 | midknight2k3 | ttc != thought that counds |
20:26:46 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
20:26:51 | midknight2k3 | ttc = time to code |
20:26:54 | midknight2k3 | but thats odd |
20:26:55 | Bluechip | yes, i guessed! ..hence :) |
20:26:57 | midknight2k3 | it.. |
20:27:14 | midknight2k3 | ttc is not equal to thought that counts |
20:27:21 | midknight2k3 | ttc is equal to time to code |
20:27:28 | Bluechip | hows your devkit holding up 2day? or is that a bad question to ask? |
20:27:57 | midknight2k3 | its ok i think |
20:28:37 | Bluechip | has ANYONE -EVER- used the win32sim to test the player? |
20:28:49 | midknight2k3 | not really |
20:28:52 | midknight2k3 | x11 sim ROCKS |
20:29:13 | Bluechip | didnt know it was useable under windows |
20:29:20 | midknight2k3 | its not |
20:29:23 | Bluechip | ah |
20:29:35 | Bluechip | then it is of no consequence to me |
20:30:02 | midknight2k3 | no it's nt |
20:30:12 | Bluechip | whats nt? |
20:30:26 | midknight2k3 | no idea |
20:32:27 | Bluechip | what does x11 do that win32sim does not |
20:32:28 | Bluechip | ? |
20:32:44 | midknight2k3 | its a lot better.. better controls, visuals, etc |
20:32:52 | Bluechip | example? |
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20:33:09 | midknight2k3 | better controls, visuals |
20:33:38 | Bluechip | can you provide and example of "in what way" the visuals are "better" ? |
20:33:57 | midknight2k3 | no errors in display |
20:34:02 | midknight2k3 | your patch fixes i think |
20:34:08 | Bluechip | but of course :) |
20:34:18 | midknight2k3 | you just gotta try it |
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20:34:24 | Bluechip | can you provide and example of "in what way" the CONTROLS are "better" ? |
20:34:38 | midknight2k3 | NO |
20:34:43 | midknight2k3 | uses numpat |
20:34:54 | Bluechip | you just mean "choice of keys"?? |
20:35:00 | midknight2k3 | / = f1, * = f2, - = f3 |
20:35:02 | Bluechip | that's a 20second patch YOU could do - lol |
20:35:06 | midknight2k3 | did you ever hear of knoppix |
20:35:10 | Bluechip | no |
20:35:15 | midknight2k3 | well you oughta get it and try it |
20:35:22 | midknight2k3 | and try the x11 sim |
20:35:28 | midknight2k3 | its hard to explain it just feels a lot better |
20:35:33 | midknight2k3 | lot more realistic |
20:35:33 | Bluechip | you should try BeOS |
20:35:37 | midknight2k3 | no thanks. |
20:35:41 | Bluechip | likewise |
20:35:51 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
20:35:54 | midknight2k3 | to you |
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20:43:43 | Jt1 | hi |
20:43:47 | Bluechip | evenin |
20:43:51 | midknight2k3 | hi |
20:43:53 | midknight2k3 | track? |
20:43:59 | midknight2k3 | yes. |
20:44:00 | midknight2k3 | it is |
20:44:01 | midknight2k3 | lol |
20:44:07 | midknight2k3 | i cnat believe i guessed right |
20:44:07 | Jt1 | yes |
20:44:08 | Jt1 | ots |
20:44:09 | Jt1 | its |
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20:44:10 | Jt1 | me |
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20:46:23 | Bluechip | anyone with an FM uit? |
20:46:26 | Bluechip | unit |
20:46:29 | Jt1 | not in a particulary good mood right nwo |
20:46:30 | Jt1 | now |
20:46:30 | midknight2k3 | me |
20:46:30 | midknight2k3 | ME |
20:46:34 | midknight2k3 | hi track |
20:46:38 | midknight2k3 | i have fmr |
20:46:39 | midknight2k3 | me |
20:46:41 | midknight2k3 | pick me! |
20:46:43 | Bluechip | where is the radio on the menu? |
20:46:44 | Bluechip | lol |
20:46:47 | midknight2k3 | er |
20:46:50 | midknight2k3 | down 3 entries. |
20:47:06 | Bluechip | can you snap-shot the screen for me please? |
20:47:15 | midknight2k3 | i guess |
20:47:25 | Bluechip | wanna make sure it works before I publish the patch |
20:47:27 | midknight2k3 | sec |
20:47:43 | Bluechip | you know how to snapshot a window? |
20:48:10 | Bluechip | ignore last coment |
20:48:16 | midknight2k3 | what? |
20:48:30 | midknight2k3 | i dont use sim |
20:48:33 | Bluechip | two very similar convresations in two windows |
20:48:37 | midknight2k3 | if thast what you mean |
20:48:43 | Jt1 | lol |
20:48:51 | Bluechip | ^^^ ignore last coment ^^^ |
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20:49:15 | Jt1 | no sign of that idiot |
20:50:22 | midknight2k3 | what idiot |
20:50:24 | midknight2k3 | what |
20:50:31 | Jt1 | m********n |
20:50:48 | midknight2k3 | well wtf |
20:50:49 | midknight2k3 | shhh |
20:51:10 | Bluechip | mk: thanks for the piccie - what i meant was a shot of the actual FM screen itself - soorrreeee |
20:51:20 | midknight2k3 | oh sure |
20:51:24 | Jt1 | silly poof |
20:51:31 | midknight2k3 | the fm wps? :D |
20:51:45 | Bluechip | the tuner screen is wps?????? |
20:51:57 | midknight2k3 | no |
20:52:00 | midknight2k3 | just "the" wps |
20:52:00 | Bluechip | phew! |
20:52:03 | midknight2k3 | nm |
20:52:04 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
20:52:07 | midknight2k3 | thatd be cool |
20:52:11 | midknight2k3 | and a recording screen WPS |
20:52:30 | Bluechip | you'll enjoy writing those :) |
20:52:49 | midknight2k3 | no ty |
20:52:50 | midknight2k3 | lol |
20:53:12 | Bluechip | you could be good if you wanted it enough :) |
20:53:26 | midknight2k3 | im busy coding my clock |
20:53:36 | Bluechip | still going on that - cool |
20:53:41 | Bluechip | thort it was dun |
20:54:11 | midknight2k3 | no |
20:54:14 | midknight2k3 | linus helped with a few things |
20:54:25 | midknight2k3 | total revamp in the works |
20:54:26 | Bluechip | ta for piccie |
20:54:58 | midknight2k3 | are you making a patch did you say |
20:55:02 | Bluechip | yes |
20:55:07 | midknight2k3 | of |
20:55:13 | midknight2k3 | radio? |
20:55:16 | Bluechip | win32sim == works properly |
20:55:20 | midknight2k3 | oh |
20:55:51 | Bluechip | at |
20:55:52 | Bluechip | atm |
20:59:24 | Bluechip | anyone know the differences between recorder-version2 and FM-Recorder? |
20:59:31 | midknight2k3 | not much.. |
20:59:40 | Bluechip | need accurate details |
20:59:47 | Bluechip | working on core code here - lol |
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21:00:19 | midknight2k3 | lo |
21:00:20 | midknight2k3 | l |
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21:29:47 | _Laurent | Hi there |
21:29:52 | midknight2k3 | hi |
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21:38:40 | _Laurent | I have a gmini and wondered if anybody was trying to have rockbox work on it ? from rockbox' web site it doesn't seem so... |
21:39:00 | midknight2k3 | not gonna happen |
21:39:01 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
21:39:09 | Jt1 | why not |
21:39:17 | _Laurent | why ? technical reasons ? |
21:39:18 | midknight2k3 | its not |
21:40:15 | Jt1 | I can't see rockbox lasting forever......... |
21:40:15 | Jt1 | lol |
21:40:36 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
21:40:58 | Jt1 | tea maker |
21:41:23 | midknight2k3 | asdf.dfad |
21:42:23 | _Laurent | well, it has an upgradable firmware as the older players/recorders, and it's probably based on similar hardware, so I can't see a valid technical reason (except if the firmware is somewhat encrypted and hardware decrypted before install) not to try to have rockbox on it ? Am I wrong ? |
21:42:37 | midknight2k3 | er |
21:42:42 | midknight2k3 | its an entirely different machine |
21:42:56 | midknight2k3 | different lcd, different mas most likely, different scrambling algo |
21:43:06 | midknight2k3 | i repeat it is about 95% sure it won't happen |
21:43:14 | _Laurent | ah, did you already open one ? I did not open mine, but I can do it |
21:43:35 | midknight2k3 | no |
21:43:45 | midknight2k3 | its a different lcd.. that there says something |
21:43:50 | midknight2k3 | its wider right |
21:43:54 | midknight2k3 | i dunno |
21:44:14 | _Laurent | I'm not sure I understand you, are you telling me that rockbox is that dependent on the hardware ? |
21:44:35 | midknight2k3 | sort of, but also the dfferent algo |
21:44:43 | _Laurent | yes, the lcd is wider, and it's probably pixel based not character based, since there are icons |
21:44:49 | midknight2k3 | yes |
21:44:53 | midknight2k3 | no doubt bitmap lcd |
21:44:58 | Jt1 | yea |
21:45:03 | Jt1 | not character LCD |
21:45:08 | Jt1 | ie, no album covers :-( |
21:45:14 | midknight2k3 | lol |
21:45:19 | midknight2k3 | jt: they are gonna do it |
21:45:23 | midknight2k3 | album covers on lcd |
21:45:24 | Jt1 | do what? |
21:45:30 | midknight2k3 | with the grayscale i think they will |
21:45:33 | midknight2k3 | they were talking about it |
21:45:41 | _Laurent | jt1 : there's a way to have graphics even on character lcd |
21:45:41 | Jt1 | what? Squeeze an entire album into one of the players' character cells? |
21:45:48 | midknight2k3 | no |
21:45:50 | midknight2k3 | on the recorder |
21:45:52 | _Laurent | Jt1: i'd do that ;) |
21:46:37 | _Laurent | when you speak about the algo, are you talking about the firmware encrypting algorithm ? |
21:46:42 | midknight2k3 | yes |
21:46:56 | midknight2k3 | it's very possible |
21:46:59 | midknight2k3 | but i doubt it will be done |
21:47:00 | _Laurent | ok, so is this the major problem up to you ? |
21:47:08 | midknight2k3 | no! |
21:47:13 | midknight2k3 | don't ask me, never mind |
21:47:14 | Jt1 | Ask mikeholden |
21:47:19 | midknight2k3 | shutup track |
21:47:20 | Jt1 | he has all the fooking' answers |
21:47:22 | Jt1 | to everything |
21:47:33 | Jt1 | midknight are you his boyfriend? |
21:47:50 | midknight2k3 | >:( |
21:48:00 | _Laurent | oh, ok, I was beginning to thing that you knew but did'nt want to tell |
21:48:17 | midknight2k3 | not at all _Laurent |
21:48:37 | _Laurent | s/thing/think/g |
21:48:46 | Jt1 | lol mid# |
21:48:51 | midknight2k3 | ? |
21:49:17 | _Laurent | would the dev list a good place to ask my questions ? |
21:49:21 | Jt1 | yea |
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21:50:15 | midknight2k3 | jt: shush |
21:50:16 | midknight2k3 | lol |
21:50:25 | Jt1 | o |
21:50:26 | Jt1 | oi |
21:50:40 | _Laurent | btw, i'd have some more : are there any docs explaining the archos players/recorders reverse engineering process as there are for xbox-linux ? I'm missing them as general background information :) |
21:50:57 | midknight2k3 | not really... |
21:50:59 | midknight2k3 | maybe |
21:51:00 | midknight2k3 | the |
21:51:01 | midknight2k3 | er |
21:51:04 | _Laurent | i did not find any on the web site |
21:51:04 | midknight2k3 | maybe "the notes" |
21:51:05 | midknight2k3 | lol |
21:51:22 | midknight2k3 | the notes |
21:51:27 | Jt1 | the Gmini can record to WAV |
21:51:39 | midknight2k3 | Jt1: get one then |
21:51:47 | Jt1 | i already have one |
21:51:47 | Jt1 | :-) |
21:52:18 | Jt1 | has a nice blue backlight |
21:52:19 | Jt1 | plays WMA |
21:52:21 | Jt1 | and WAV |
21:52:22 | midknight2k3 | oh really |
21:52:30 | Jt1 | has an icon interface |
21:52:35 | midknight2k3 | what does the startup screen look like |
21:52:37 | Jt1 | can take CF cards |
21:52:40 | Jt1 | it shows the ARCHOS logo |
21:52:42 | midknight2k3 | dont tell him laurent |
21:52:48 | Jt1 | it shows the ARCHOS logo |
21:53:10 | midknight2k3 | hrm |
21:54:21 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 9 minutes and 46 seconds at the last flood |
21:54:21 | * | _Laurent didn't tell anything |
21:54:26 | Jt1 | and the peak meteres are vertical rather than horizontal |
21:55:02 | midknight2k3 | there are no peak meters |
21:55:09 | Jt1 | there ARE peak meters |
21:55:13 | Jt1 | they are vertical on the Gmini |
21:55:28 | midknight2k3 | what does it do when you put in a cf card |
21:55:29 | _Laurent | true |
21:56:26 | midknight2k3 | what does it do when you put in a cf card |
21:56:29 | midknight2k3 | Jt1? |
21:56:47 | Jt1 | I don't know as I don't have any CF cards and I havent paied for the plugin yet |
21:56:49 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
21:58:07 | Jt1 | Ive noticed Smartmedia cards are losing popularity |
21:58:19 | _Laurent | as for mikeholden, does he comes here or should I try email ? |
21:58:27 | midknight2k3 | dont ask mikeholden |
21:58:28 | midknight2k3 | wtf |
21:58:30 | midknight2k3 | track |
21:58:30 | Jt1 | don't bother with him |
21:58:33 | Jt1 | mikeholden |
21:58:34 | midknight2k3 | track hates mikeholden |
21:58:44 | midknight2k3 | i think he loves him |
21:58:49 | midknight2k3 | he says his name all day |
21:58:54 | Jt1 | Fuck you mid# |
21:58:55 | Jt1 | :-) |
21:58:59 | _Laurent | ok I see |
21:59:04 | Jt1 | i DO NOT love him |
21:59:10 | _Laurent | wars begin this way ;) |
21:59:17 | midknight2k3 | track |
21:59:18 | midknight2k3 | you do |
21:59:20 | midknight2k3 | and you know it |
21:59:26 | Jt1 | bullshit |
21:59:27 | Jt1 | midknight |
21:59:41 | Jt1 | go and work on ur polyphonic ringtones |
21:59:42 | Jt1 | :P |
21:59:47 | midknight2k3 | :v) |
21:59:56 | midknight2k3 | track likes mike holden |
21:59:59 | midknight2k3 | :D |
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22:00:01 | Jt1 | i DO NOT!!!! |
22:00:08 | midknight2k3 | then stop referring people to him |
22:00:10 | midknight2k3 | all day |
22:00:26 | Jt1 | mid only cos u like the_dude02 so much |
22:00:27 | Jt1 | :P |
22:00:36 | midknight2k3 | are you KIDDING ME |
22:00:54 | midknight2k3 | YOU DFAD |
22:00:59 | midknight2k3 | YOU LOVE MIKEHOLDEN |
22:01:12 | midknight2k3 | so muc you made a sourceforge nick "mikeh0lden" |
22:01:13 | Jt1 | FUCK YOU!!! |
22:01:17 | Jt1 | I do NOT!! |
22:01:18 | midknight2k3 | lol |
22:01:21 | midknight2k3 | lolol |
22:01:24 | midknight2k3 | you're funny |
22:01:35 | Jt1 | lol |
22:01:36 | midknight2k3 | you're funny when you lie |
22:01:45 | Jt1 | shaddup |
22:02:20 | midknight2k3 | i bet you want mikeholden tonight |
22:02:44 | _Laurent | hey i didn't thought rockbox was so hot |
22:02:58 | _Laurent | :) |
22:03:16 | midknight2k3 | i bet Jt1 can almost taste mikeholden's sweet lips |
22:03:16 | Jt1 | midknight be quiet |
22:04:29 | Jt1 | lol LCD screens |
22:04:56 | midknight2k3 | lol mikeholdenandtrack |
22:05:27 | Jt1 | ok |
22:05:59 | Jt1 | one midknight and his iPod |
22:07:02 | Jt1 | Hahahaha! |
22:07:10 | midknight2k3 | ipods are nice |
22:07:15 | midknight2k3 | but i'd prefer an archos |
22:07:29 | _Laurent | ipods are awfully expensive |
22:07:50 | midknight2k3 | i know |
22:07:59 | midknight2k3 | id rather a jbrec 20 |
22:08:21 | _Laurent | apart from firewire and AAC it can do pretty much the same as an ipod |
22:08:26 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
22:08:31 | Jt1 | midknight what u said the other day was so cheesy it made me reach for the bucket |
22:08:43 | midknight2k3 | what was that, track? |
22:09:02 | Jt1 | "I couldn't wish for anything else other than an archos" |
22:09:54 | midknight2k3 | which day was this? |
22:10:01 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
22:10:04 | midknight2k3 | reach for the bucket |
22:10:37 | Jt1 | u said that to me in PM when u got the vid clips working |
22:11:07 | midknight2k3 | lol |
22:11:13 | midknight2k3 | let me have a look at the logs |
22:11:22 | Jt1 | u said that in PM |
22:11:29 | midknight2k3 | like i said |
22:11:30 | midknight2k3 | let me have a look at the logs |
22:12:02 | Jt1 | if u want to look at logs visit a lumberjack's shed |
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22:13:12 | midknight2k3 | lol |
22:13:12 | midknight2k3 | ok |
22:13:16 | midknight2k3 | i dont see anything |
22:13:17 | _Laurent | huh, I see there's some interest for the gmini at least : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=856557 |
22:13:28 | midknight2k3 | 15:56:02 | <track> Everyone in the shop today was buying ipods!!! |
22:13:34 | midknight2k3 | 15:59:51 | <track> I held the Gmini today |
22:13:39 | midknight2k3 | thats why he knew about the peak meters |
22:14:12 | midknight2k3 | 11:16:53 | <track> i should file a dodhy request under mikeh0lden |
22:14:20 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
22:15:16 | midknight2k3 | 15:10:15 | <track> File a request "Make the Gmini plugins work on the Recorder" |
22:15:48 | Dogger | gmini is pants |
22:15:52 | Dogger | get an iPod instead |
22:15:58 | midknight2k3 | UCK |
22:16:01 | midknight2k3 | DOGGEr |
22:16:03 | Dogger | it has decent firmware and open source firmware |
22:16:07 | midknight2k3 | how could you stoop so low |
22:16:08 | _Laurent | Dogger: give me the extra money and i'll do ;) |
22:16:16 | midknight2k3 | 13:20:18 | <track> the new Nomad is really sexy |
22:16:27 | Dogger | cos iPod rules |
22:16:45 | Dogger | they even..... get this..... have technical support!!!!!! Something Archos can only dream of having |
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22:17:22 | midknight2k3 | lol |
22:17:23 | midknight2k3 | he left |
22:17:29 | midknight2k3 | cause i started pasting his secrets |
22:17:40 | midknight2k3 | dogger: i thought you'd never stoop so low |
22:17:49 | Dogger | midknight2k3: you know its true |
22:18:16 | midknight2k3 | i know it SUCKS |
22:18:24 | midknight2k3 | i cant believe you |
22:18:30 | midknight2k3 | you got an IPOD?! |
22:18:38 | midknight2k3 | our friendship is soiled! |
22:18:40 | midknight2k3 | lol |
22:20:33 | Dogger | yes I got an iPod |
22:20:36 | Dogger | they are sexy |
22:20:40 | Dogger | and the best mp3 player |
22:20:48 | midknight2k3 | they SUCK |
22:20:51 | Dogger | av300 is the best (practically only) video player |
22:21:01 | midknight2k3 | ipod sucks |
22:21:03 | midknight2k3 | get a karma instead |
22:21:07 | _Laurent | functionality speaking, rockbox with an archos does the same |
22:21:14 | _Laurent | (and possibly more) |
22:21:24 | midknight2k3 | a LOT more |
22:21:31 | midknight2k3 | video playback, lots of games, custom wps |
22:21:32 | _Laurent | so why would a more expensive ipod be interesting ? |
22:21:33 | midknight2k3 | custom font |
22:21:41 | midknight2k3 | dont get me going |
22:21:42 | midknight2k3 | lol |
22:21:44 | _Laurent | :) |
22:22:14 | _Laurent | ok, an ipod with rockbox on it would be better than an archos |
22:22:32 | _Laurent | because of firewire and probably AAC which seems to be done via hardware |
22:22:56 | midknight2k3 | whatever |
22:23:14 | _Laurent | but it'd still be expensive |
22:23:39 | midknight2k3 | dfasa |
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22:39:45 | arspy87 | hey all |
22:39:59 | [IDC]Dragon | hi |
22:40:00 | arspy87 | ..and midk too |
22:40:17 | midknight2k3 | hey |
22:40:28 | Trakk | hi |
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22:43:37 | midknight2k3 | hi kurz |
22:43:38 | kurzhaarrocker | yeah. I can split mp3s on the recorder now. |
22:43:58 | midknight2k3 | ????? |
22:44:18 | kurzhaarrocker | I made a plugin for splitting mp3 files with a graphical osci gui. |
22:45:09 | midknight2k3 | oooh |
22:45:11 | midknight2k3 | coooool |
22:45:18 | midknight2k3 | can i see |
22:47:50 | kurzhaarrocker | have a look at http://www.carangg.de/splitedit.zip |
22:48:42 | midknight2k3 | oo ooo oooo ooo |
22:49:03 | midknight2k3 | you need new ajbrec? |
22:49:37 | kurzhaarrocker | yes, I had to do modifications right down to mpeg.h. Linus will beat me. |
22:49:44 | midknight2k3 | lol |
22:49:58 | midknight2k3 | testing |
22:50:09 | midknight2k3 | er |
22:50:11 | midknight2k3 | thats for rec? |
22:50:17 | midknight2k3 | i have fm |
22:50:19 | kurzhaarrocker | yes. For rec only |
22:50:24 | midknight2k3 | NOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
22:50:39 | kurzhaarrocker | wait, I think I can compile it for fm, too |
22:50:44 | midknight2k3 | pls |
22:50:45 | midknight2k3 | do |
22:50:45 | midknight2k3 | wait |
22:50:54 | midknight2k3 | i just ran the splitedit |
22:50:58 | midknight2k3 | and it said IllInstr |
22:51:02 | midknight2k3 | and then it roloed something |
22:51:06 | midknight2k3 | for some reason |
22:51:25 | midknight2k3 | are you making for fm |
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22:52:27 | | Quit Trakk ("Leaving") |
22:52:35 | midknight2k3 | i've got to go |
22:52:39 | midknight2k3 | unless its building |
22:52:49 | kurzhaarrocker | it is |
22:52:57 | midknight2k3 | is it fast? lol |
22:53:20 | kurzhaarrocker | It could use more speed |
22:53:36 | midknight2k3 | hurry it along |
22:55:20 | kurzhaarrocker | its uploading www.carangg.de/fm_splitedit.zip |
22:55:31 | midknight2k3 | let me know when its up |
22:55:32 | midknight2k3 | or is it |
22:55:44 | kurzhaarrocker | Don't use it on files you haven't backuped before. Its not been testet much. |
22:55:59 | midknight2k3 | ok |
22:56:03 | midknight2k3 | done? |
22:56:06 | kurzhaarrocker | should be up now |
22:56:14 | midknight2k3 | ok |
22:56:25 | midknight2k3 | hurr hurry lol |
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22:56:28 | midknight2k3 | 45% |
22:56:31 | midknight2k3 | 55% |
22:56:34 | midknight2k3 | 75 |
22:56:36 | kurzhaarrocker | What are you running for? |
22:56:38 | midknight2k3 | 90 |
22:56:40 | midknight2k3 | done |
22:56:46 | midknight2k3 | ? |
22:56:55 | kurzhaarrocker | Why are you in a hurry? |
22:57:00 | midknight2k3 | just gota go |
22:57:10 | midknight2k3 | done |
22:57:13 | midknight2k3 | bye all |
22:57:15 | | Quit midknight2k3 () |
22:57:16 | kurzhaarrocker | use on your own risk |
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23:02:14 | arspy87 | g2g, back in 30 |
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23:03:07 | kurzhaarrocker | Holy cow! When I look at the patch tracker I should be glad if my split editor will make it in before xmas 2004! |
23:17:07 | kurzhaarrocker | Have the founders of rockbox all gone on holyday? |
23:17:49 | _Laurent | perhaps they work ;) |
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23:27:19 | * | kurzhaarrocker let's them work while he goes sleeping. |
23:27:24 | kurzhaarrocker | cu |
23:27:32 | _Laurent | cu |
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