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| 00:16:26 | Sebulba02 | Cool, antibubbles |
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| 00:27:42 | lini | i was thinking of upgrading my jbr to a av320 this christmas... e770? WTF? why is it so foking expensive? is it made of gold or smth? |
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| 00:53:37 | Infornogr4phy | lini: lol i got my av340 for free~ |
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| 00:58:28 | Stevenm | hey guys. anyone get Rockbox to play video? |
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| 00:59:25 | Stevenm | I tried the video plugin but I get error- Incompatible Version. I'm using rockbox 2.1 on a Recorder |
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| 01:00:56 | [IDC]Dragon | you have to update to the daily build |
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| 01:01:51 | [IDC]Dragon | or where did you get the plugin? it wasn't in 2.1 |
| 01:03:08 | Stevenm | I got the plugin off the rockbox site |
| 01:03:35 | Stevenm | Oh guys.. I flashed my device. Cna I still upgrade Rockbox somehow? |
| 01:04:01 | [IDC]Dragon | shure. play the .ucl file of the daily build |
| 01:04:14 | Stevenm | What would that do? |
| 01:04:28 | [IDC]Dragon | reflash the rockbox part |
| 01:04:56 | Stevenm | Oh ok, nice |
| 01:06:16 | [IDC]Dragon | RTFM: the "standard" procedure is to get a daily build, copy all to the JB, play the .ajz to be in the new Rockbox version, then play rockbox.ucl to flash it. |
| 01:06:21 | Stevenm | I get error: Incompativle Version when playing the UCL file |
| 01:06:37 | Stevenm | I did RTFM, did just taht |
| 01:06:39 | [IDC]Dragon | play the .ajz first to be consistant |
| 01:06:58 | Stevenm | I just did |
| 01:07:07 | Stevenm | Run the new firmware first, then the UCL |
| 01:07:12 | [IDC]Dragon | else you have already new plugins, but still run an older Rockbox version. |
| 01:07:36 | [IDC]Dragon | didn't work? |
| 01:08:05 | Stevenm | Ah here we go |
| 01:08:10 | Stevenm | my bad- forgot to sync filesystem |
| 01:08:52 | Stevenm | I ususally mount nosync.. but I'll throw that into fstab when I'm not feeling lazy |
| 01:09:12 | lini | Infornogr4phy i envy you! getting a free one is too much! noooo |
| 01:09:58 | [IDC]Dragon | Stevenm: got a video? |
| 01:10:19 | Stevenm | Yea |
| 01:10:25 | Stevenm | Holy crap guys, this is AWESOME |
| 01:10:43 | Stevenm | someone ought to add am MP3 sound channel :-) |
| 01:11:04 | [IDC]Dragon | slowly, one after the other |
| 01:11:18 | Stevenm | Yea I gotcha |
| 01:11:33 | lini | [IDC]Dragon did you decide on the way audio is going to be added? |
| 01:11:46 | lini | separate file/ interleaving etc? |
| 01:12:07 | Stevenm | Woah, you guys are ACTUALLY addinv sound? |
| 01:12:08 | [IDC]Dragon | the clean way would be to interleave bitswapped mp3 data |
| 01:12:40 | [IDC]Dragon | Stevenm: not yet, just thinking about it |
| 01:13:08 | Stevenm | Well, how much CPU time is used playing video? Will there be enough procewsing power to send MP3 data and video at once? |
| 01:13:33 | [IDC]Dragon | mp3 doesn't need much CPU |
| 01:13:47 | Infornogr4phy | lol |
| 01:13:48 | Infornogr4phy | whoops |
| 01:13:50 | Infornogr4phy | backies~ |
| 01:13:56 | [IDC]Dragon | try it: play an mp3 in the "background" while you run a video |
| 01:14:00 | lini | Stevenm, audio is processed by a different chip |
| 01:14:28 | Stevenm | lini: I know.. read the technical docs.. but it would seem that video would take up A LOT of resources, no? |
| 01:14:32 | Infornogr4phy | lini: lol there are alot of HORROR stories about archos products lol..i think it's fair i got mine free lol |
| 01:14:35 | lini | i lose only 1 fps when i play audio and i think it is because of the empty buffer filling |
| 01:14:37 | Infornogr4phy | =P |
| 01:14:48 | Stevenm | Nice |
| 01:15:04 | Infornogr4phy | lol i'm going to try and get 2 more av300's but only the 20 gig models |
| 01:15:08 | lini | Infornogr4phy hm I haven't got a single problem with mine |
| 01:15:26 | Stevenm | Btw, I think I ought to say, Rockbox is, like, completely kick ass |
| 01:15:29 | Infornogr4phy | lini: same here, but if you go on like yahoo groups you hear all these bad horror storries |
| 01:15:34 | lini | except that one of the batteries leaked |
| 01:15:38 | lini | :) |
| 01:15:54 | Infornogr4phy | lini: like there was this one guy who had to return his av320 3 times to the same store |
| 01:15:55 | lini | i never saw a nimh battery leak before |
| 01:16:25 | Infornogr4phy | lini: and another guy whose screen didn't work and he called archos only to hear the archos representative tell him to "Get your money back." |
| 01:17:17 | lini | bah |
| 01:17:42 | lini | i was so hoping to watch movies on my trips |
| 01:17:51 | Infornogr4phy | lol |
| 01:17:57 | lini | now I am thinking of getting a pda to do that |
| 01:18:03 | Infornogr4phy | i love watching movies and episodes while at school or travelling |
| 01:18:04 | Infornogr4phy | lol |
| 01:18:09 | Infornogr4phy | all on my purdy archos |
| 01:18:13 | lini | only thing remaining is how to hook it to a hdd |
| 01:18:15 | Infornogr4phy | i want to make an external battery pack though |
| 01:18:28 | Stevenm | It's kinda amazing how Archos made their products so, erm, crap-free |
| 01:18:38 | Infornogr4phy | Stevenm: yea |
| 01:18:42 | [IDC]Dragon | goodnight folks! |
| 01:18:44 | Infornogr4phy | not all people have problems with the archos |
| 01:18:51 | Stevenm | Others would like, put some kind of special partition on the drive, a special filesystem, a special hd connector, etc |
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| 01:19:13 | Infornogr4phy | i think it's kinda normal to have horror stories, there are horror stories for every product...just the general consensus for archos is...TECH SUPPORT IS NONEXISTANT |
| 01:19:54 | Infornogr4phy | lol |
| 01:20:01 | lini | Infornogr4phy, i know that. I knew that when i bought mine. |
| 01:20:10 | lini | but i was willing to take the risk |
| 01:20:21 | lini | it was the cheapest one :) |
| 01:20:26 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 01:20:36 | Stevenm | Try COMCAST horror stories. 9 phone calls. 2 months. not a single tech. |
| 01:20:42 | Infornogr4phy | but well, if my av300 breaks...I still have an RCA Lyra i use as a paperweight, a couple of ipods, 3 irivers and i'm going to try and get 2 more av300's |
| 01:20:58 | lini | Infornogr4phy why? |
| 01:21:21 | lini | in case one of the av breaks |
| 01:21:22 | Infornogr4phy | Stevenm: lol the only thing I hate about comcast is the $$$ i have no problems with them otherwise |
| 01:21:24 | lini | ? |
| 01:21:42 | Infornogr4phy | lini: ah lol in case mine breaks, I have backups lol |
| 01:22:16 | Infornogr4phy | lini: lol i still have the crappy RCA Lyra ( paperweight ) , some 40gig ipods and 3 irivers, but i still like the av300's so i'm going to go for more lol |
| 01:22:23 | Infornogr4phy | XD i love free stuffies |
| 01:23:25 | Infornogr4phy | sigh, but still i like the av340 i have now...it's working so well..but after all the horror stories...@_@ |
| 01:23:28 | lini | i'm still determined to watch movies somehow. and i don't want a bulky notebook |
| 01:23:55 | Infornogr4phy | lini: yea...do yourself a favor, get an av320 and opt for an extended warantee |
| 01:24:11 | Infornogr4phy | bleh i can't even spell correctly now.. |
| 01:24:41 | lini | Infornogr4phy i'm a poor student. if i get one now i'll have to starve for the next couple of months |
| 01:24:43 | lini | :) |
| 01:24:48 | Infornogr4phy | ouch |
| 01:24:59 | Infornogr4phy | lol i'm poor too i know what you mean |
| 01:25:00 | Infornogr4phy | lol |
| 01:25:24 | lini | not all of us have access to some store's warehouse :) |
| 01:25:34 | Infornogr4phy | XD |
| 01:25:37 | Infornogr4phy | lol |
| 01:25:52 | Infornogr4phy | your half right when you say that |
| 01:25:53 | Infornogr4phy | XD |
| 01:26:44 | lini | maybe i'll start harassing archos so they send me one to "review" |
| 01:27:11 | Infornogr4phy | lol i doubt they would |
| 01:27:25 | Infornogr4phy | I think techtv and a bunch of other places had to BUY it to review it ( go archos! ) |
| 01:27:50 | lini | oh i can settle for a discount too |
| 01:28:07 | lini | + i am sure to get a working one, cause nobody wants bad publicity |
| 01:28:14 | Infornogr4phy | lol |
| 01:28:52 | Infornogr4phy | man, if Dogger manages to get Linux and Mame on an av300...then lini, you'd better get one |
| 01:29:22 | * | Infornogr4phy imagines playing game boy advance games via emulator and rom on his av340....and selling his GBA SP |
| 01:29:29 | lini | nah |
| 01:29:39 | lini | i'm pretty sure i'll get an asus pda |
| 01:29:45 | Infornogr4phy | lol |
| 01:29:55 | lini | archos is too damn expensive |
| 01:30:04 | Infornogr4phy | lol yea i have to say that too.. |
| 01:30:26 | lini | the only thing bothering me is the memory on the pda |
| 01:30:26 | Infornogr4phy | i went to fry's to see just how much my archos costs if i had to buy it and Fry's rips you off |
| 01:30:32 | Infornogr4phy | it's like $700 |
| 01:30:45 | Infornogr4phy | lini: what kind of memory does the pda use? flash? |
| 01:30:51 | lini | CF |
| 01:30:55 | Infornogr4phy | bleh |
| 01:31:08 | Infornogr4phy | lesse the prices for CF cards... |
| 01:31:56 | lini | problem is that going from 20GB to a couple of hundred mb max is way too steep :( |
| 01:32:11 | Infornogr4phy | oooh...they have a 4GB CF Type II card out by LEXAR... |
| 01:32:30 | lini | yea and it probably costs as much as the av :) |
| 01:32:31 | Infornogr4phy | and it's fat32 compliant~ |
| 01:32:35 | Infornogr4phy | lmao |
| 01:32:37 | Infornogr4phy | let me check the price |
| 01:34:19 | Infornogr4phy | lol for 1 gig it's $250 |
| 01:35:09 | lini | bah |
| 01:35:49 | Infornogr4phy | 1 gig for $250....to 20 gigs for $400 lol...uuhh...archos at least has an upperhand on that one... |
| 01:36:49 | lini | and i guess i cannot connect the pda to the archos cause they can only be usb slaves :( i knew firewire was better :) |
| 01:37:23 | Infornogr4phy | lol yea |
| 01:37:34 | Infornogr4phy | i think i want to buy the firewire adaptor for my archos |
| 01:37:43 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 01:38:23 | lini | would be cool tho. keep all the data on a firewire drive and use it only when needed, otherwise stick with the pda |
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| 01:41:40 | Stevenm | Hey, where can I find some documentation on the Linux version of the Rockbox simulator? |
| 01:42:07 | Sebulba02 | the rockbox website? |
| 01:42:14 | Stevenm | Looking around.. |
| 01:42:25 | Sebulba02 | or maybe checkout the source? |
| 01:43:20 | Stevenm | ah got it |
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| 01:49:37 | jajasonvich | hello, does anyone know if there is a special driver needed to hook up to pocket pc 2002 |
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| 02:36:07 | Imagine | ahoy |
| 02:36:36 | Imagine | darn linus isn't here |
| 02:37:33 | earHertz | don't damn Linus |
| 02:38:49 | | Nick edx{dvd} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EA9DCA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:41:59 | Imagine | indeed |
| 02:42:21 | Imagine | doesn't resolve the Dir buffer issue however |
| 02:42:39 | Imagine | when there's just one file hehe |
| 02:42:44 | Imagine | at least the partition issue is fixed |
| 02:42:48 | earHertz | what issue? |
| 02:42:57 | Sebulba02 | theres an issue with that? |
| 02:43:10 | Imagine | not in teh code, prolly |
| 02:43:32 | Imagine | but formatting Fat32@16K shouldn't give any prob |
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| 02:47:38 | Sebulba02 | hmm |
| 02:48:41 | hardeep | Imagine: what didn't resolove the dir buffer issue? |
| 02:48:46 | hardeep | er resolve |
| 02:49:04 | Imagine | I think it may have just resolved |
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| 02:49:32 | Imagine | I formatted on Win2k and got the warning and that there were no files, but after being plugged into my Mac it's happy |
| 02:50:00 | Sebulba02 | I've formatted mine on win2k numerous times |
| 02:50:10 | Sebulba02 | no problems, other than I had to retransfer everything :) |
| 02:51:42 | Imagine | my baby AJBR has had some rough times though |
| 02:51:51 | Imagine | hard drive sounds like a car |
| 02:51:57 | Imagine | works fine though :) |
| 02:52:39 | Sebulba02 | ouch |
| 02:53:29 | Infornogr4phy | like a car...? |
| 02:54:00 | Sebulba02 | I hope that was exaggerated |
| 02:54:11 | Infornogr4phy | yea |
| 02:54:24 | Imagine | it sounds like a hard drive that has bad bearings |
| 02:54:29 | Infornogr4phy | if not then...maybe archos should start developing automobiles..? |
| 02:54:33 | Infornogr4phy | o_o |
| 02:55:10 | Sebulba02 | heh |
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| 02:58:06 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 02:58:14 | midknight2k3 | i just unsubscribed mailing list |
| 02:58:23 | Sebulba02 | Why? |
| 02:58:32 | midknight2k3 | then refreshed the page and watched the subscribers number go from 486 to 485 |
| 02:58:55 | Imagine | exciting |
| 02:59:07 | midknight2k3 | quiet down now |
| 02:59:18 | midknight2k3 | ha ah |
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| 03:00:34 | midknight2k3 | Bluechip: nice work on disp fix |
| 03:01:13 | midknight2k3 | bye all |
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| 03:18:08 | midknight2k3 | baxck |
| 03:18:45 | Sebulba02 | Oh no |
| 03:19:01 | midknight2k3 | sorry ma'am |
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| 03:38:24 | midknight2k3 | hi mt |
| 03:48:59 | | Quit hardeep ("[BX] Tickle-Me Elmo uses BitchX. *giggle* *giggle* *giggle*") |
| 03:49:29 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 03:50:15 | | Part lini |
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| 03:53:14 | midknight2k3 | gi |
| 03:53:18 | midknight2k3 | hi* |
| 03:53:43 | Snerf | gi |
| 03:53:44 | Snerf | :) |
| 03:54:34 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:55:15 | Snerf | wassup |
| 03:55:55 | midknight2k3 | not much |
| 03:55:56 | midknight2k3 | you |
| 03:55:57 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 03:56:05 | Snerf | same ole , same ole :) |
| 03:56:18 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 03:56:32 | midknight2k3 | wait a second. |
| 03:56:35 | midknight2k3 | oh nm |
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| 03:57:51 | Snerf | okie dokie |
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| 04:01:06 | midknight2k3 | bye all |
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| 04:01:15 | arspy87 | hey guys |
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| 04:07:39 | arspy87 | quiet here |
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| 04:09:13 | Snerf | quite |
| 04:14:37 | arspy87 | *falling asleep* |
| 04:22:11 | arspy87 | i'm out |
| 04:22:11 | arspy87 | ttyl |
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| 05:38:35 | midknight2k3 | hey all! |
| 05:38:39 | midknight2k3 | longhorn i'm on |
| 05:38:43 | midknight2k3 | finished |
| 05:49:40 | | Part Sebulba02 |
| 05:50:20 | midknight2k3 | FINE THEN |
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| 05:58:31 | earHertz | anybody seen Linus? |
| 05:58:54 | midknight2k3 | im here |
| 05:58:54 | midknight2k3 | longhorn |
| 05:58:54 | midknight2k3 | neato |
| 05:59:05 | earHertz | neato |
| 05:59:11 | midknight2k3 | too bnad dcc doesnt work |
| 05:59:29 | midknight2k3 | bad* |
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| 06:00:18 | earHertz | why? |
| 06:00:31 | midknight2k3 | i could send you a neat screenie |
| 06:01:55 | earHertz | Oh, too bad. |
| 06:03:14 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 06:03:17 | midknight2k3 | d |
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| 06:26:12 | earHertz | midknight2k3 has seen LOTR 10 times |
| 06:26:29 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 06:27:02 | earHertz | what's up midknight2k3 |
| 06:27:24 | midknight2k3 | LONGHORN |
| 06:27:34 | earHertz | th OS? |
| 06:27:44 | midknight2k3 | yeah! |
| 06:28:07 | earHertz | what about it? |
| 06:28:21 | midknight2k3 | on it |
| 06:28:22 | midknight2k3 | its nice |
| 06:28:25 | midknight2k3 | 4051 |
| 06:29:04 | earHertz | I don't want it |
| 06:29:47 | midknight2k3 | i didnt offer it |
| 06:31:32 | earHertz | No, i mean when MS brings it out, I won't buty it |
| 06:31:44 | midknight2k3 | why not |
| 06:31:48 | midknight2k3 | avalon is awesome |
| 06:32:25 | earHertz | DRM |
| 06:32:36 | midknight2k3 | DEFINE DRM |
| 06:33:36 | earHertz | digital restrictions management |
| 06:33:54 | earHertz | Longhorn will report your music to MS and prevent you from playing it |
| 06:34:10 | midknight2k3 | what?! |
| 06:34:16 | earHertz | Yup |
| 06:34:36 | earHertz | It's part of teh music companies' plan |
| 06:34:55 | midknight2k3 | tards |
| 06:35:20 | earHertz | Whole parts of your computer will be off-limits to you, but readable and writable by big companies |
| 06:35:35 | midknight2k3 | nice fantasy |
| 06:35:39 | midknight2k3 | but it won't happen |
| 06:36:03 | earHertz | It will if everyone likes Longhormn as much as you do. |
| 06:36:11 | earHertz | Me, I'm going to be using linux |
| 06:36:13 | midknight2k3 | shh |
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| 06:36:47 | ajiuO | does this stuff work for the Archos Gmini or jsut jukebox |
| 06:36:54 | midknight2k3 | just jukebox |
| 06:37:10 | ajiuO | is there anythign for the gmini yet?? |
| 06:37:21 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 06:37:50 | earHertz | Nor will there be. Sorry. |
| 06:38:00 | ajiuO | oh why not? |
| 06:38:10 | earHertz | Gmini's different architechture. |
| 06:38:18 | earHertz | Ansd archos is selling software now. |
| 06:38:55 | ajiuO | well that dont mean no one will hack it |
| 06:39:12 | ajiuO | half the fun |
| 06:39:40 | earHertz | Well, it means that who does hack it, may have Archos complaining that the hack takes away money from Archos |
| 06:39:52 | midknight2k3 | and sue you |
| 06:40:01 | earHertz | or DMCA you. |
| 06:40:36 | ajiuO | well as long as its not there software your pirating there shoudl be no problem |
| 06:40:38 | earHertz | What makes the Gmini better than the Reorder, anyway? |
| 06:40:47 | midknight2k3 | Reorder? whats that |
| 06:40:55 | earHertz | Recorder. |
| 06:41:00 | ajiuO | it is perfecvtly legl for 3erd party suport |
| 06:41:23 | ajiuO | its just like microsoft making office for an aple |
| 06:41:24 | midknight2k3 | support |
| 06:41:27 | midknight2k3 | not rw/ing |
| 06:41:54 | earHertz | ajiuO, I agree. But I onnly have a few lawyers. |
| 06:42:27 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 06:42:37 | ajiuO | heh iv alread been to court as a result of the dmca was fun |
| 06:42:55 | earHertz | Oh? You got a take-down notice? |
| 06:43:18 | ajiuO | no directv seems to think iso smart card readers are iligle |
| 06:43:24 | ajiuO | i bot one |
| 06:43:34 | ajiuO | so they asumed i used it for them |
| 06:43:36 | midknight2k3 | you bot one? |
| 06:43:37 | midknight2k3 | cool |
| 06:43:40 | midknight2k3 | :D j/k |
| 06:43:41 | ajiuO | the bastards |
| 06:43:53 | ajiuO | they had not proof of what i used it for |
| 06:44:09 | ajiuO | rediculous |
| 06:44:19 | ajiuO | dont know how they get away with that crap |
| 06:44:25 | ajiuO | dint get a dime out of me thogh |
| 06:44:59 | ajiuO | i slaped the ricco act back on that ass |
| 06:45:16 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 06:45:37 | ajiuO | for evry law there is a counter law i tell you |
| 06:47:55 | ajiuO | has anyone here used the Gmini |
| 06:48:19 | midknight2k3 | eew |
| 06:48:19 | ajiuO | i was trying to deside on a mp3 player to buy |
| 06:48:24 | midknight2k3 | get a rec20 |
| 06:48:39 | ajiuO | whats that |
| 06:48:49 | earHertz | You didn't pay the 3 grand? |
| 06:49:14 | ajiuO | oh is that what there setlement is |
| 06:49:24 | ajiuO | i idnt ask |
| 06:49:30 | earHertz | yeah, you went to court? |
| 06:49:34 | ajiuO | i just went to court |
| 06:49:53 | ajiuO | ended up with a no cash setlment |
| 06:49:53 | earHertz | and? |
| 06:50:18 | GOD | Gmini...BAD...Archos wants you to buy all these plugins for it... |
| 06:50:20 | earHertz | but you settled? |
| 06:50:34 | ajiuO | i made the setlment not them |
| 06:50:53 | earHertz | did you have to give up the reader? |
| 06:51:00 | ajiuO | nope |
| 06:51:15 | earHertz | you should post your story on slashdot |
| 06:51:21 | ajiuO | well i cauly bot 2 things |
| 06:51:22 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 06:51:30 | midknight2k3 | cauly bot? |
| 06:51:39 | ajiuO | the lawer admited in court that the programer was legal |
| 06:51:54 | ajiuO | i gues the other thing i bot had other uses thogh i dont know |
| 06:51:56 | earHertz | he could, but |
| 06:52:47 | ajiuO | but unforutnatly directv must prove that they where harmed by the use of this porduct |
| 06:53:00 | ajiuO | if they cant |
| 06:53:17 | ajiuO | there is no civle remidy |
| 06:56:29 | ajiuO | tis the ipob specail or somthign |
| 06:56:49 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 06:56:50 | ajiuO | it seems alot hier prised then comparable stuff |
| 06:56:52 | midknight2k3 | i cant understand you |
| 06:56:56 | midknight2k3 | yes it is |
| 06:57:01 | midknight2k3 | its not good |
| 06:57:03 | midknight2k3 | get a recorder 20 |
| 06:59:53 | earHertz | Is the Gmini in color/ |
| 07:00 |
| 07:00:15 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 07:01:53 | ajiuO | well im gonna get it on my circuit city card and they only have the gmini, the mutimieda 20G, and the av320 witch is out of the question |
| 07:02:02 | ajiuO | is the mutimedia any good |
| 07:02:09 | midknight2k3 | i hear its pretty bad |
| 07:02:20 | midknight2k3 | screen bleeds, bad ui, all the good stuff |
| 07:02:33 | earHertz | Archos qulaity is spotty |
| 07:02:39 | midknight2k3 | very |
| 07:02:43 | midknight2k3 | get a Rio Karma 20 |
| 07:02:45 | midknight2k3 | they have it at CC |
| 07:02:52 | earHertz | esp. with the FM and rhe V2 |
| 07:02:55 | midknight2k3 | i promise you thats the best choice |
| 07:03:11 | earHertz | not that we will support the karma in Rockbox |
| 07:03:14 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 07:03:19 | midknight2k3 | but if you have to have non rockbox |
| 07:03:21 | midknight2k3 | get a karma |
| 07:03:25 | midknight2k3 | it's imperative |
| 07:04:12 | ajiuO | does rockbox only suport archos? |
| 07:04:28 | midknight2k3 | and Neo jukebox |
| 07:04:31 | midknight2k3 | but thats super old |
| 07:04:35 | midknight2k3 | not retail |
| 07:04:38 | midknight2k3 | get a karma |
| 07:10:30 | midknight2k3 | http://www.rioworld.org/yabbse/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=1641 |
| 07:10:32 | midknight2k3 | there ya go |
| 07:14:16 | ajiuO | wor prety small too |
| 07:14:32 | midknight2k3 | very |
| 07:14:37 | midknight2k3 | highly recommended |
| 07:14:42 | midknight2k3 | great support too |
| 07:14:47 | midknight2k3 | new features such as dock pulse |
| 07:14:50 | midknight2k3 | ethernet |
| 07:14:53 | midknight2k3 | rca out |
| 07:14:55 | midknight2k3 | ogg playback |
| 07:14:58 | midknight2k3 | FLAC playback |
| 07:15:01 | midknight2k3 | 16 hours battery life |
| 07:15:11 | midknight2k3 | astounding sound quality |
| 07:21:36 | earHertz | closed source |
| 07:21:43 | midknight2k3 | boo hoo |
| 07:21:46 | midknight2k3 | just like EVERYTHING ELSE |
| 07:22:45 | scott666 | except for rockbox... |
| 07:22:59 | midknight2k3 | sure |
| 07:23:02 | scott666 | what about that hd-500? |
| 07:23:11 | midknight2k3 | but count the other hundred MP3 players out there and, well, ... |
| 07:23:14 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 07:23:15 | midknight2k3 | scott |
| 07:23:22 | midknight2k3 | circuit city doesnt stock it |
| 07:23:26 | midknight2k3 | and if they did whod want it |
| 07:23:29 | midknight2k3 | the karma is the best |
| 07:23:30 | earHertz | everybody seems to like the HD-500, excpet the size |
| 07:23:57 | earHertz | half the fun for me id writing my own code for the thing. the karma fails it |
| 07:24:26 | scott666 | and what if the firmware on the karma sucks? |
| 07:24:54 | earHertz | midknight2k3wil have to suckit up |
| 07:24:56 | scott666 | that completely ruins a palyer |
| 07:24:56 | earHertz | ;) |
| 07:25:02 | scott666 | *player |
| 07:25:14 | earHertz | God, can you imagine running he Archos firmware. |
| 07:25:17 | midknight2k3 | listen |
| 07:25:17 | midknight2k3 | scott |
| 07:25:20 | midknight2k3 | it doesnt |
| 07:25:22 | earHertz | slow ugly POS |
| 07:25:22 | scott666 | no |
| 07:25:23 | midknight2k3 | ive messed with it |
| 07:25:28 | midknight2k3 | EVERYONE HAS MESSED WITH UIT |
| 07:25:31 | midknight2k3 | constant updates |
| 07:25:34 | midknight2k3 | its very very nice |
| 07:25:36 | scott666 | i used it in the car ride hom |
| 07:25:36 | scott666 | e |
| 07:25:37 | earHertz | don't mess with it, you'l go blind |
| 07:25:40 | scott666 | that was it |
| 07:25:53 | ajiuO | rca any good?? |
| 07:26:02 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 07:26:04 | midknight2k3 | get the karma |
| 07:26:07 | scott666 | rva has a player/ |
| 07:26:17 | scott666 | the karma is also $400 |
| 07:26:28 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 07:26:31 | midknight2k3 | $300 or so |
| 07:26:35 | ajiuO | rca has a 40 gig one |
| 07:26:38 | midknight2k3 | forget it |
| 07:26:40 | midknight2k3 | sheesh |
| 07:26:40 | ajiuO | dont knwo about them thogh |
| 07:26:42 | scott666 | last time i checked it was 400 |
| 07:26:50 | midknight2k3 | scott: CHECK AGAIN |
| 07:27:05 | scott666 | yeah, i either want a player i can upgrade the HD of, or ones thats 60+ GB |
| 07:27:11 | earHertz | rca consumeer elctronics have a poor rep |
| 07:27:27 | earHertz | aol: me too, scott666 |
| 07:27:44 | scott666 | and for that, 1.8" drive players suck |
| 07:28:01 | scott666 | at least for nwo |
| 07:28:05 | scott666 | *now |
| 07:28:51 | earHertz | plus, I have a 60 already that I can rip out of my fmr |
| 07:30:57 | earHertz | don't get me wrong, midknight2k3. If the karma were open sopurce, I'd buy one tomorrow |
| 07:31:13 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 07:31:16 | midknight2k3 | thats not what i mean |
| 07:31:21 | midknight2k3 | its the next best thing |
| 07:31:27 | midknight2k3 | i know about it totally |
| 07:32:52 | scott666 | i hate 'next big things' |
| 07:33:00 | scott666 | fuck ipod |
| 07:33:22 | midknight2k3 | next BEST thing |
| 07:33:36 | earHertz | Ipod's getting sued |
| 07:33:42 | scott666 | really? |
| 07:33:44 | scott666 | for what? |
| 07:33:52 | earHertz | c;lass action over the battery |
| 07:34:12 | scott666 | whats the advertised life of it? |
| 07:35:10 | scott666 | i heard they only last ~a year |
| 07:35:22 | earHertz | yup |
| 07:35:27 | earHertz | 5000 recharges |
| 07:35:48 | scott666 | thats pathetic |
| 07:36:28 | earHertz | but it .looks/ cool |
| 07:36:42 | midknight2k3 | no it doenst |
| 07:36:42 | scott666 | wait...how does that come out to a year? |
| 07:36:49 | earHertz | midknight2k3, go to bed |
| 07:36:51 | earHertz | ;) |
| 07:37:00 | scott666 | is the battery life like 6 hours? |
| 07:37:04 | midknight2k3 | ill leave if you wish |
| 07:37:09 | earHertz | t dioesn't |
| 07:37:21 | earHertz | it doesnn'y. Thus teh suit. |
| 07:37:27 | scott666 | oh, thats the advertisted time? gotcha |
| 07:37:29 | earHertz | just kidding, midj |
| 07:37:39 | midknight2k3 | ill be quiet |
| 07:37:41 | * | midknight2k3 zips lips |
| 07:37:44 | earHertz | actually, I think they don't advertise a time |
| 07:37:56 | scott666 | has anyone tried www.emusic.com? |
| 07:38:02 | earHertz | it used to be great |
| 07:38:05 | midknight2k3 | earhertz started that |
| 07:38:05 | earHertz | no it succks |
| 07:38:05 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 07:38:09 | midknight2k3 | it does |
| 07:38:11 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 07:38:12 | earHertz | now it sucks' |
| 07:38:14 | scott666 | really? |
| 07:38:19 | midknight2k3 | you used to do that a lot |
| 07:38:22 | scott666 | they have a 50 free song thing now |
| 07:38:25 | earHertz | they limited downloads to 40/month from unlimited |
| 07:38:27 | scott666 | 2 week trial |
| 07:38:32 | midknight2k3 | REALLY? |
| 07:38:33 | midknight2k3 | THAT SUCKS |
| 07:38:38 | earHertz | it sucks |
| 07:38:39 | midknight2k3 | thats not.. no. its.. |
| 07:38:42 | midknight2k3 | its not possible |
| 07:38:49 | earHertz | and, they are having all sorts of technical problems |
| 07:39:00 | earHertz | did you hear that sound? |
| 07:39:08 | earHertz | it's emusic being flushed down a toilet |
| 07:39:12 | scott666 | heh |
| 07:39:14 | earHertz | bbl |
| 07:39:14 | | Part ajiuO |
| 07:39:26 | scott666 | i think ill try em out anyway |
| 07:39:33 | scott666 | 50 free mp3s = good |
| 07:39:39 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 07:39:44 | scott666 | unless they suck |
| 07:39:55 | midknight2k3 | OH MAN! |
| 07:39:56 | scott666 | in which case its still no loss |
| 07:40:08 | midknight2k3 | EMusic Basic: $9.99 per month/40 song downloads |
| 07:40:08 | midknight2k3 | EMusic Plus: $14.99 per month/65 song downloads |
| 07:40:08 | midknight2k3 | EMusic Premium: $19.99 per month/90 song downloads |
| 07:40:18 | scott666 | yeah |
| 07:40:39 | scott666 | unlimited would be sweet, but how would they stay in business? |
| 07:40:51 | scott666 | id get everything i wanted the first month and then leave |
| 07:41:14 | midknight2k3 | they used to have unlimited |
| 07:41:17 | midknight2k3 | that SUCKS |
| 07:41:29 | midknight2k3 | it used to be like 14.99 a month for unlimited |
| 07:41:36 | scott666 | and you download MP3! not wmas |
| 07:48:20 | midknight2k3 | adf |
| 07:54:52 | midknight2k3 | back in a few |
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| 07:59:42 | midknight2k3 | nack |
| 07:59:44 | midknight2k3 | ack |
| 07:59:48 | midknight2k3 | not on longhon nomores |
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| 10:11:09 | zYgoat | happy Winter Solstice |
| 10:11:13 | zYgoat | and a merry New Orbit |
| 10:11:21 | midknight2k3 | hi hi |
| 10:19:23 | zYgoat | mooo |
| 10:19:28 | midknight2k3 | asdvdvdvdvdvdvdvdvdv |
| 10:19:29 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 10:19:31 | midknight2k3 | dfad |
| 10:19:31 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 10:19:47 | zYgoat | i want rockbox |
| 10:19:53 | midknight2k3 | get it then |
| 10:20:01 | zYgoat | running on my iriver ;) |
| 10:20:06 | midknight2k3 | what iriver |
| 10:20:08 | zYgoat | lol |
| 10:20:09 | midknight2k3 | model |
| 10:20:13 | zYgoat | 590t |
| 10:20:16 | midknight2k3 | mm |
| 10:20:17 | midknight2k3 | tasty |
| 10:20:32 | midknight2k3 | ive got a 390t |
| 10:20:34 | zYgoat | yes the FM reception is usable - which amazed me |
| 10:20:56 | zYgoat | only advantage to the 590 is i have double the memory |
| 10:21:04 | midknight2k3 | oh really |
| 10:21:08 | midknight2k3 | but not |
| 10:21:14 | zYgoat | i mean flash ram |
| 10:21:21 | zYgoat | not the 256MB |
| 10:21:28 | midknight2k3 | 390t = 256mb |
| 10:21:30 | zYgoat | the memory for the codecs |
| 10:21:34 | midknight2k3 | 590t = 256mb |
| 10:21:35 | midknight2k3 | correct? |
| 10:21:38 | zYgoat | yes |
| 10:21:42 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 10:21:44 | midknight2k3 | ohh |
| 10:21:46 | zYgoat | the players have three different kinds of ram |
| 10:21:49 | midknight2k3 | yeah thast a big dea |
| 10:21:51 | midknight2k3 | deal* |
| 10:22:26 | zYgoat | there are so many cool things these players could do |
| 10:22:42 | zYgoat | 1: They have a strongarm 16-bit CPU with memory management - i.e. they can run linux |
| 10:22:48 | midknight2k3 | yeah right |
| 10:22:57 | zYgoat | 2: They have USB - that means they could hook up to external keyboards and hard drives |
| 10:22:58 | zYgoat | hehe |
| 10:23:04 | midknight2k3 | yeah right |
| 10:23:12 | midknight2k3 | anything FEASIBLE? :) |
| 10:23:30 | zYgoat | umm |
| 10:23:43 | zYgoat | i tied a little ribbon to mine |
| 10:23:51 | midknight2k3 | thats nice |
| 10:24:05 | zYgoat | i am a hax0r |
| 10:24:13 | midknight2k3 | i noticed |
| 10:24:15 | midknight2k3 | how 1337 |
| 10:25:39 | zYgoat | the flash-based player with external usb drive would be ideal |
| 10:25:48 | zYgoat | leave the drive in the car |
| 10:25:51 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 10:26:15 | zYgoat | load currently interesting songs into the flash-player |
| 10:26:24 | zYgoat | walk, hop, frolic |
| 10:26:28 | midknight2k3 | asdfasdfasdf |
| 10:26:31 | zYgoat | get back to car - switch-out the songs |
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| 10:34:25 | midknight2k3 | methane gas |
| 10:34:26 | midknight2k3 | woo |
| 10:34:42 | methangas | morning to you too |
| 10:35:20 | midknight2k3 | more liek night |
| 10:35:22 | midknight2k3 | im TIRED |
| 10:37:25 | zYgoat | E( <> )3 |
| 10:37:37 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 10:37:44 | * | midknight2k3 tilts head sideways |
| 10:37:53 | midknight2k3 | is that a face yawning? |
| 10:38:02 | zYgoat | yewp |
| 10:38:06 | midknight2k3 | I WIN |
| 10:38:07 | methangas | well it's 10:38 am here, so i just got up |
| 10:38:11 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 10:38:16 | midknight2k3 | well its 1:38 am here |
| 10:38:24 | midknight2k3 | so time for bed in a few mins |
| 10:38:36 | zYgoat | as far as face = goatse man |
| 10:38:52 | midknight2k3 | ahh |
| 10:39:22 | zYgoat | you were asdasdasd=ing my best ideas |
| 10:39:29 | zYgoat | so you got the 'face' ;) |
| 10:39:40 | midknight2k3 | now i get it |
| 10:40:18 | zYgoat | but you're right - i have no chance of getting those implemented |
| 10:40:20 | zYgoat | anyway |
| 10:40:22 | zYgoat | i'm off for a smoke |
| 10:40:41 | midknight2k3 | Smoke Ing Supported |
| 10:41:34 | zYgoat | cheers! |
| 10:42:58 | methangas | btw who made the danish language pack? |
| 10:43:17 | midknight2k3 | ZSC |
| 10:43:56 | methangas | just because some characters doesnt appear, æ ø and å |
| 10:47:32 | midknight2k3 | lmao |
| 10:47:33 | midknight2k3 | http://www.geocities.com/bobmaloogakathy/frogsecx/receiver.html |
| 10:48:37 | methangas | well now we just need one with mickey mouse |
| 10:48:44 | midknight2k3 | http://www.geocities.com/electabuzz2002/lite.htm |
| 10:48:48 | midknight2k3 | goatse LITE |
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| 10:55:05 | trakk | Morning |
| 10:55:29 | midknight2k3 | night |
| 10:55:30 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 10:57:57 | | Nick edx is now known as edx{eatz} (edx@pD9EA9DCA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:58:46 | zYgoat | haha |
| 10:58:54 | trakk | hiua |
| 10:58:55 | trakk | hiya |
| 10:58:56 | trakk | ! |
| 10:59:10 | zYgoat | nii |
| 10:59:15 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 10:59:16 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 10:59:16 | midknight2k3 | dfad |
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| 11:00:43 | methangas | dwas? |
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| 11:00:49 | midknight2k3 | asg |
| 11:00:51 | midknight2k3 | sdfa |
| 11:01:33 | * | zYgoat installs eclipse |
| 11:03:59 | trakk | TEA MAKER |
| 11:04:08 | midknight2k3 | gotta go |
| 11:04:09 | midknight2k3 | nite all |
| 11:05:09 | zYgoat | nite |
| 11:05:21 | zYgoat | i am drinking green tea with vanilla and peppermint |
| 11:05:33 | midknight2k3 | faskernating |
| 11:05:38 | zYgoat | a few months ago it would have been beer |
| 11:05:47 | midknight2k3 | ha ha |
| 11:06:02 | Laurent_ | did you know that Jon Lech Johansen won his trial ? |
| 11:11:35 | midknight2k3 | ok really time to go |
| 11:11:38 | midknight2k3 | ssya all later |
| 11:11:43 | | Quit midknight2k3 ("sudden death") |
| 11:12:09 | Laurent_ | are there human beings in this channel or is it bot's land ? |
| 11:12:11 | Laurent_ | ;) |
| 11:15:58 | trakk | TEA MAKER!!!!!! |
| 11:18:41 | trakk | mid loves his sdd |
| 11:21:41 | zYgoat | contrary to rumour |
| 11:21:44 | zYgoat | i am not a robot |
| 11:28:31 | Arnaud | oh M |
| 11:28:32 | Laurent_ | great ;) |
| 11:30:01 | trakk | ok |
| 11:30:02 | trakk | :-) |
| 11:35:55 | Laurent_ | does anyone have a gmini here ? |
| 11:38:23 | trakk | I held one |
| 11:39:26 | Laurent_ | I guess it does not count ;) |
| 11:40:02 | Laurent_ | I'm still hesitating to open mine to see what it has under the hood |
| 11:40:15 | Laurent_ | so I'm asking if anyone did it before ;) |
| 11:40:44 | Laurent_ | anyhow i'm doing it right now |
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| 11:42:21 | Laurent_ | shit i can't unscrew it |
| 11:42:41 | zYgoat | use the proper size screwdriver |
| 11:42:46 | zYgoat | don't strip the screws |
| 11:43:08 | Laurent_ | yup, it's a hexagonal screw |
| 11:43:24 | Laurent_ | real small one |
| 11:43:43 | Laurent_ | i need to buy one, let me add it to my shopping list ;) |
| 11:43:56 | Laurent_ | that's a good motivation to go shopping ;) |
| 11:45:43 | zYgoat | heh |
| 11:46:25 | Laurent_ | anyway i had to or i'd starve quite soon ;) |
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| 14:34:10 | Bluechip | Does anyone here know or understand CVS to the degree that they could explain it to a complete dolt? (IE. me) |
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| 18:21:23 | Laurent_ | hi |
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| 18:25:52 | Bluechip | can anyone help with info on diff? |
| 18:26:29 | Laurent_ | aside from 'man diff' i'll be useless :) |
| 18:26:54 | Bluechip | yes, me too, sadly my problem runs deeper than that - I have a conflict of options |
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| 18:27:17 | Laurent_ | well, I can always try |
| 18:27:23 | Laurent_ | what's the conflict |
| 18:27:24 | Laurent_ | ? |
| 18:27:26 | Bluechip | okay I shall try to explain... |
| 18:27:46 | Bluechip | the RB source has lines terminated with spaces and blank lines with indent spaces on them |
| 18:28:02 | Bluechip | my editor was set to "strip trailing spaces" whilst I was making my mods |
| 18:28:04 | Laurent_ | a classic |
| 18:28:22 | Bluechip | so all the blank lines are showing up in my diff |
| 18:28:37 | Laurent_ | ok |
| 18:28:41 | Bluechip | I would propose that the problme should be fixed ...but |
| 18:28:59 | Laurent_ | yup me too |
| 18:29:03 | Bluechip | recently on group was a post "please remove all the white space from your diff" post to another patch writer |
| 18:29:05 | * | Laurent_ hates white spaces |
| 18:29:37 | Bluechip | I have patched LOADS of files - so sitting and going thru them all one by one is not reasonable |
| 18:29:50 | Bluechip | so my choice is "ignore whitespace" |
| 18:29:56 | Bluechip | BUT |
| 18:30:27 | Bluechip | if I do that, (1) the occasioanl blank line I included for readable code is not inserted ...and |
| 18:30:53 | Bluechip | (2) changes I have made to indenting in a couple of places is wrong |
| 18:31:09 | Bluechip | leaving if..then..else structures incorretly indented - nightmare |
| 18:31:09 | Laurent_ | I see |
| 18:31:27 | Laurent_ | are you using −−ignore-blank-lines ? |
| 18:31:37 | Bluechip | my best attempt so far is |
| 18:31:47 | Bluechip | diff -u -r -E -b |
| 18:32:03 | Bluechip | for some reason "-x *.bak" does nothing >( |
| 18:32:54 | Bluechip | tried "ignore tab expansion" but the blank lines are not strictly "tab expansions" so it does not help |
| 18:33:07 | Laurent_ | what's -E ? I can't see it in the man ? |
| 18:33:14 | Bluechip | i need "ignore trailing whitespace" |
| 18:33:35 | Bluechip | -E −−ignore-tab-expansion Ignore changes due to tab expansion. |
| 18:33:42 | Laurent_ | perhaps you should do it in two passes |
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| 18:35:13 | Bluechip | hmmm, maybe - might be just as easy to patch it up by hand if it comes to that - just choose my "first" pass wisely to minimise effort |
| 18:35:47 | Laurent_ | let me resume |
| 18:35:57 | Bluechip | oop - sorry |
| 18:36:02 | Laurent_ | you have made changes to both the code and the trailing white spaces |
| 18:36:08 | Bluechip | yes |
| 18:36:16 | Laurent_ | no no it's ok, I was just thinking aloud ;) |
| 18:36:32 | Bluechip | just confinming aloud :P ;) |
| 18:36:44 | Laurent_ | you want your trailing white spaces changes to be accepted as changes |
| 18:36:58 | Bluechip | no trailing whitespace must be ignored |
| 18:37:08 | Laurent_ | why ? |
| 18:37:28 | Bluechip | or I get hundreds of changes and complaints from the main developers |
| 18:37:40 | Laurent_ | ah, ok, now I get it |
| 18:37:48 | Laurent_ | damn |
| 18:37:51 | Bluechip | me too |
| 18:37:59 | Laurent_ | have them rot in hell ;) |
| 18:38:02 | Laurent_ | (joking) |
| 18:38:04 | Bluechip | lol |
| 18:38:10 | Bluechip | (laughing) |
| 18:38:52 | Bluechip | if it were that simple I would just load every file into my editor and do a save all and create a "tidy up whitespace" patch |
| 18:39:03 | Laurent_ | yup of course |
| 18:39:48 | Laurent_ | that's why I was resuming : always make sure you understood everything before looking for a solution ;) |
| 18:40:49 | diddystar5 | Bluechip: i think my really good version of rockbox will be done tomorrow, i just hope that no CVS chnges will be made soon |
| 18:41:01 | Laurent_ | have you tried −−ignore-all-space ? |
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| 18:41:14 | Bluechip | brb |
| 18:42:00 | Bluechip | sorry, gf interruption |
| 18:42:12 | Laurent_ | gf ? |
| 18:42:17 | Bluechip | girlfriend |
| 18:42:35 | Bluechip | NMI |
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| 18:42:39 | kurzhaarrocker | Girfriends usually have nmi |
| 18:42:44 | Bluechip | lol |
| 18:42:45 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 18:42:50 | Laurent_ | sure |
| 18:42:51 | kurzhaarrocker | you were faster |
| 18:42:58 | Bluechip | you typed more ;) |
| 18:43:56 | Laurent_ | hum, I might have a solution |
| 18:44:16 | Laurent_ | not a clean one though |
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| 18:44:29 | Bluechip | Laurent_: no, I don't hold much hope, but will try (−−ignore-all-space) |
| 18:44:35 | Bluechip | oopp - go on... |
| 18:45:14 | Laurent_ | get all sources against which you are checking in, pass them through your editor (or script equivalent) then make the diff against them |
| 18:45:26 | Laurent_ | not again the real source tree |
| 18:45:32 | Laurent_ | s/again/against/g |
| 18:45:39 | Bluechip | ooohhh, tha'ts sneaky |
| 18:45:42 | Laurent_ | it *should* do it |
| 18:45:44 | Bluechip | :) |
| 18:46:00 | Bluechip | and my project file has relative paths in too :) |
| 18:46:22 | Laurent_ | sneaky ? got to learn that word ;) |
| 18:46:41 | Bluechip | sorry, not sure if you are after a definition? |
| 18:47:17 | Laurent_ | 'marked by stealth, furtiveness, or shiftiness' that's it ;) |
| 18:47:41 | kurzhaarrocker | Can somebody make MPEG_FF_REWIND more precise, please? I don't understand half of that code :) |
| 18:47:45 | Laurent_ | I was indeed, I'm not a native english speaker ;) |
| 18:48:23 | Bluechip | yes, but also (when used in vernacular (common tongue)) suggests a level of inspiration or intelligence ...it's the thing that seperates programmers from hackers |
| 18:49:13 | Laurent_ | i'll take it as a compliment ;) |
| 18:49:29 | diddystar5 | kurzhaarrocker: is it not accurate? |
| 18:49:37 | Bluechip | "devious" is the same word, but that suggests a level of "under-handed-ness" or naughty-ness |
| 18:49:44 | Bluechip | it is a compliment |
| 18:49:59 | Laurent_ | ;) |
| 18:50:44 | kurzhaarrocker | diddy: its behaviour is reproducable in an nearly appropriate way. But it is not frame accurate. |
| 18:51:06 | Bluechip | gonna go eat in about 10mins, but will be playing the withespace game until then.... :) |
| 18:51:26 | kurzhaarrocker | And you can't jump at any place within the file. |
| 18:51:57 | Laurent_ | ok :) |
| 18:52:29 | Laurent_ | just the time i need to unscrew my gmini and see what's under the hood |
| 18:53:00 | diddystar5 | kurzhaarrocker: i have no idea how to make it MORE accurate |
| 18:53:01 | Laurent_ | (bought a tork screwdriver) |
| 18:53:11 | diddystar5 | kurzhaarrocker: what files were you looking at? |
| 18:53:18 | Laurent_ | so long warranty, I'll miss you :( |
| 18:53:29 | kurzhaarrocker | especially firmware/mpeg.h |
| 18:54:30 | diddystar5 | kurzhaarrocker: most of the codef or that is in firmware/mpeg.c, but i think a little is in apps/wps.c |
| 18:56:28 | kurzhaarrocker | (mpeg.c was what I meant) I hardly use any apps code in my plugin. For looping I just call MPEG_FF_REWIND. |
| 18:58:12 | Laurent_ | do the original archos models have a warranty seal ? |
| 18:58:40 | Bluechip | yes |
| 18:58:51 | Bluechip | hairdryer & a scalpal job |
| 18:59:08 | Laurent_ | too late :) |
| 18:59:12 | kurzhaarrocker | I think that it is inherent since the MAS for sure buffers a few frames. You'd have to reset it at the cost of latency I assume. |
| 18:59:47 | kurzhaarrocker | Laurent: my 2nd recorder didn't have any warranty seals. |
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| 19:00:01 | Bluechip | bbl |
| 19:00:07 | kurzhaarrocker | cu |
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| 19:04:28 | kurzhaarrocker | mpeg.h /mpeg.c gives quite a high level interface to the sound engine. Some tasks (e.g. a split editor) could utilize more low level functionality like defining the dma transfer borders. But maybe I'm talking rubbish here. |
| 19:06:42 | hardeep | kurzhaarrocker: are you testing on cbr or vbr files? |
| 19:06:59 | kurzhaarrocker | both |
| 19:07:18 | hardeep | kurzhaarrocker: for cbr, mpeg_ff_rewind should be accurate |
| 19:07:24 | hardeep | it's not guaranteed with vbr |
| 19:07:57 | diddystar5 | hardeep: a patch was added for more accurate vbr rew/ff, i dont know how accurate... |
| 19:08:19 | kurzhaarrocker | even with cbr there are may be fractions of seconds differences when you MPEG_FF_REWIND to the same position. |
| 19:08:41 | hardeep | diddystar5: that was for vbr files that don't have a toc, in which case you're really just guessing where to move to |
| 19:08:49 | kurzhaarrocker | Someone made quite an effort to calculate the exact file position. |
| 19:09:18 | kurzhaarrocker | haardeep there's code for vbr with headers, too |
| 19:09:19 | hardeep | kurzhaarrocker: true, it's all integer math so we can off by a bit |
| 19:09:44 | hardeep | kurzhaarrocker: yes. I'm just saying that with vbr there's no way to go to the exact position, even with the toc |
| 19:09:49 | kurzhaarrocker | that astonishes me as I throw in identical pffsets. |
| 19:09:53 | hardeep | the toc just gives you 100 points of reference |
| 19:10:01 | diddystar5 | thats all? |
| 19:10:03 | diddystar5 | wow |
| 19:10:15 | kurzhaarrocker | Someone made a sub - percent approximation, too |
| 19:10:35 | hardeep | yeah, it's an approximation though |
| 19:10:41 | hardeep | linear approximation that is |
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| 19:11:49 | kurzhaarrocker | But this approximation still work with reproducable results. There's no random() in it. And still there are minimal differences when you MPEG_FF_REWIND to the same position. |
| 19:12:21 | hardeep | kurzhaarrocker: hmmm, so you're passing the exact same position twice and getting two different offsets? |
| 19:13:12 | kurzhaarrocker | But I assume that's the side effect of something else: The position where I interrupt the playback is not that precisely defined. Thus there might be some unplayed frames in the MAS buffer, or something. |
| 19:13:41 | hardeep | kurzhaarrocker: hmm, those should be cleared when you ff_rewind |
| 19:14:37 | kurzhaarrocker | Do you have a recorder? |
| 19:14:43 | hardeep | yes |
| 19:14:53 | kurzhaarrocker | Are you interested in trying the effect? |
| 19:15:06 | hardeep | kurzhaarrocker |
| 19:15:19 | hardeep | kurzhaarrocker: I can't right now... maybe later? |
| 19:15:36 | kurzhaarrocker | whenever you want: www.carangg.de/spliteditor.zip |
| 19:16:47 | hardeep | okay, i'll try it out later today |
| 19:17:10 | kurzhaarrocker | Do you know where and how the Mas is cleared while MPEG_FF_REWIND? |
| 19:17:43 | kurzhaarrocker | All I can find is an initDMA |
| 19:18:23 | kurzhaarrocker | and that's Code I don't understand. |
| 19:18:42 | hardeep | Yeah, init_dma is the call that should do it |
| 19:21:29 | hardeep | hmmm, one thing you might want to try is calling drain_dma_buffer() before the call to init_dma() |
| 19:22:04 | kurzhaarrocker | I'll give it a try. |
| 19:22:45 | hardeep | got to go |
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| 19:31:33 | diddystar5 | gotta go |
| 19:31:37 | diddystar5 | bye Sebulba02 |
| 19:31:52 | diddystar5 | and hardeep |
| 19:31:55 | Laurent_ | shitty plastic cover |
| 19:32:01 | Laurent_ | too affraid to break it |
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| 19:33:33 | Sebulba02 | uh, bye |
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| 19:34:19 | midknight2k3 | hullo hullo huloo! |
| 19:36:01 | top_bloke | hey mid |
| 19:36:17 | midknight2k3 | toopy |
| 19:36:30 | midknight2k3 | i'm, on, long, horn, ha ha hah aha ha |
| 19:36:54 | top_bloke | ? |
| 19:37:00 | midknight2k3 | longhorn |
| 19:37:13 | top_bloke | latest bloatware? |
| 19:37:20 | midknight2k3 | define bloatware |
| 19:37:29 | top_bloke | uh |
| 19:37:42 | top_bloke | software that takes up tons of space |
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| 19:38:10 | top_bloke | without really the need for it |
| 19:38:30 | midknight2k3 | its not bloated |
| 19:38:34 | midknight2k3 | its fun |
| 19:39:01 | top_bloke | yay |
| 19:39:24 | top_bloke | is it one cd? |
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| 19:39:36 | midknight2k3 | its 660MB download |
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| 19:39:42 | midknight2k3 | hey hey |
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| 19:40:06 | top_bloke | at least it fits on 1 cd i guess |
| 19:40:15 | midknight2k3 | as is |
| 19:40:22 | midknight2k3 | when avalon comes by, it may not |
| 19:40:27 | midknight2k3 | but it will be sweeeeet |
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| 19:40:55 | top_bloke | yeah i still use win98 |
| 19:41:31 | top_bloke | i would be using 95 but it didnt seem to work with my processor |
| 19:41:45 | midknight2k3 | lmao |
| 19:41:53 | top_bloke | 95 rules |
| 19:42:05 | Sebulba02 | its only 16bit, I bet you have a modern 32bit processor |
| 19:42:09 | top_bloke | yeah |
| 19:42:15 | midknight2k3 | no, 95-98-2000-xp-2003-LONGHORN rules |
| 19:42:29 | citrix7 | no linux for you? |
| 19:42:41 | Sebulba02 | debian owns all that |
| 19:42:43 | top_bloke | linux is like 2 gigs |
| 19:42:47 | top_bloke | talk about bloat |
| 19:42:48 | midknight2k3 | its not |
| 19:42:51 | midknight2k3 | wtf toopy |
| 19:42:57 | top_bloke | what |
| 19:43:12 | top_bloke | i dont know jack about linux |
| 19:43:14 | citrix7 | my mandrake installs at about 1.2 |
| 19:43:26 | Sebulba02 | which is a lot less than xp |
| 19:43:37 | top_bloke | and i wanna be able to play games |
| 19:43:48 | citrix7 | i use xp for games |
| 19:43:49 | Sebulba02 | wine |
| 19:43:58 | midknight2k3 | wine isnt very good |
| 19:43:58 | citrix7 | 98 for counter strike still :O |
| 19:44:22 | top_bloke | what exactly are the benfits of linux? |
| 19:44:52 | Laurent_ | wine can have some games working |
| 19:44:57 | citrix7 | um... for me, not much. but i use it setting up servers for work, so i use it sometimes |
| 19:45:06 | citrix7 | its for microsoft haters |
| 19:45:09 | Laurent_ | top_bloke: short term or long term ? |
| 19:45:15 | top_bloke | any term |
| 19:46:11 | Laurent_ | short term, windows is better, easier, long term : windows will be closed, no open source software only microsoft approved ones, no privacy, no freedom ;) |
| 19:46:32 | top_bloke | thats true |
| 19:46:34 | Laurent_ | all software locked via palladium : only commercial ones |
| 19:47:20 | top_bloke | is longhorn an early palladium? |
| 19:47:24 | Laurent_ | i'm convinced linux can be as user friendly as windows is now |
| 19:47:37 | top_bloke | but its takes work ot do that |
| 19:47:43 | Laurent_ | it probably contains some parts of it |
| 19:47:49 | Laurent_ | of course, lot of work ;) |
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| 19:59:37 | citrix7 | QUESTION: for Anyone who can help me. |
| 19:59:42 | citrix7 | I have a recorder 15 |
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| 20:00:02 | citrix7 | charged my batts for about 3 hours then started using the archos. (i got new batts) anyway, the batt numbers were going down FAST!! then it went from like 70 to 25..... |
| 20:00:17 | citrix7 | then about 10 min later, just quit on me. then i got home and turned it on and charged it while using it for 1/ hour. now when i turn it on tells me 100 with 3 hours left.... |
| 20:00:31 | citrix7 | played for about 20 min....on 100 the whoole time. then just shut off again |
| 20:00:49 | citrix7 | i never did charge it overnight. i was using it right away. but the batt meter tells me 100, then it shuts off, then wont start again. |
| 20:01:01 | citrix7 | i am using rockbox, but not when it is charging. it seems to be the archos charger |
| 20:01:19 | citrix7 | but when i charged it in ROCKBOX, after about an hour, it shows fully charged. 100% even with charger still in. like it thinks its done |
| 20:01:45 | citrix7 | then cant turn back on until plugged in again |
| 20:01:48 | citrix7 | ANYONE? |
| 20:02:13 | Sebulba02 | you killed the batteries |
| 20:02:20 | citrix7 | how? |
| 20:02:34 | Sebulba02 | by not letting them charge long enough the initial time |
| 20:02:48 | midknight2k3 | is that even possible? |
| 20:02:49 | citrix7 | now they are gone? i just got them today |
| 20:02:53 | Sebulba02 | midknight2k3: yes |
| 20:02:56 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 20:03:00 | midknight2k3 | cool! :) |
| 20:03:07 | citrix7 | :( |
| 20:03:09 | Sebulba02 | citrix7: they aren't gone, they just won't last long |
| 20:03:24 | citrix7 | but the meter in rockbox says wrong info |
| 20:03:30 | Sebulba02 | midknight2k3: the initial charge sets the max the batteries can hold, hense why it says in the manual charge for like 12 hours with no interrupt |
| 20:03:41 | midknight2k3 | wow thats cool |
| 20:03:44 | midknight2k3 | i never knew that |
| 20:04:09 | citrix7 | i cant discharge then re-charge them? |
| 20:04:11 | Laurent_ | that might be reversible though |
| 20:04:21 | Sebulba02 | deep discharge? |
| 20:04:27 | Laurent_ | yup |
| 20:04:30 | citrix7 | using rockbox? |
| 20:04:35 | Sebulba02 | yeah |
| 20:04:38 | Laurent_ | no, using a resistor |
| 20:04:45 | citrix7 | ? |
| 20:04:57 | Sebulba02 | huh |
| 20:05:14 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 20:05:18 | midknight2k3 | eh? |
| 20:06:22 | Laurent_ | sorry, better try with rockbox ;) |
| 20:06:34 | citrix7 | how can i tell if rockbox is DEEP DISCAHRGING. the batt looks the same as normal charge |
| 20:06:47 | Laurent_ | citrix7: run it until it stops |
| 20:06:59 | Laurent_ | have you got a voltmeter ? |
| 20:07:00 | citrix7 | but then i cant get back into rockbox |
| 20:07:04 | citrix7 | no |
| 20:07:21 | Sebulba02 | check the charge setting |
| 20:07:26 | Laurent_ | if you can't get back then your battery is discharged |
| 20:07:31 | Laurent_ | (probably) |
| 20:07:46 | citrix7 | but then when i go back inot rockbox, it says full after 1 hour |
| 20:07:50 | citrix7 | 100% |
| 20:08:19 | Laurent_ | citrix7: that's no problem, let it run until it stops because batteries are drained |
| 20:08:38 | citrix7 | then use archos charger? |
| 20:09:12 | Sebulba02 | turn it to charge as deep discharge instead of normal |
| 20:09:20 | citrix7 | i did |
| 20:09:26 | Laurent_ | can you do that : plug the charger, start rockbox, unplug charger, play tunes indefinitely (or keep browsing the hard disk) until it stops because the batteries are drained |
| 20:10:03 | Laurent_ | citrix7: does rockbox have a deep discharge setting ? I didn't know |
| 20:10:16 | citrix7 | but when i reboot, the archos charger comes up. not rockbox. |
| 20:10:16 | midknight2k3 | it does |
| 20:10:17 | Sebulba02 | yes, it does |
| 20:10:45 | Laurent_ | great, then that should do it exactly |
| 20:11:13 | citrix7 | no, when i do deep discharge, rockbox batt monitor looks the same as normal charging |
| 20:11:23 | Sebulba02 | so what |
| 20:11:30 | citrix7 | hmmm |
| 20:11:42 | Sebulba02 | its the algorythm being used thats different |
| 20:12:17 | citrix7 | ok, so i will leave the rockbox running tonight like its on, and let it do its thing. |
| 20:12:42 | Sebulba02 | if you mean leave it on charging, then yeah |
| 20:12:47 | citrix7 | tomorrow, if i have same problem, then i guess my new batts are gone |
| 20:13:05 | | Nick BC|bbl is now known as Bluechip (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 20:13:05 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Bluechip |
| 20:13:16 | Sebulba02 | & you learned a valuable lesson |
| 20:13:30 | midknight2k3 | bluechip |
| 20:13:30 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 20:13:56 | Laurent_ | to be clear what you must do is : load the battery for 12 plain hours, then play until the batteries are completely drained |
| 20:13:56 | Bluechip | ho |
| 20:14:03 | citrix7 | yea, 30$ valuable |
| 20:14:17 | Laurent_ | the lesson being : "read the manual" ;) |
| 20:14:27 | citrix7 | dont have |
| 20:14:40 | citrix7 | got this from a friend |
| 20:14:45 | Laurent_ | ok, so it's "have the manual (and read it)" ;) |
| 20:14:46 | citrix7 | had to buy charger and batts |
| 20:14:56 | Sebulba02 | they have it online |
| 20:15:03 | citrix7 | thanks for all your help |
| 20:15:06 | citrix7 | everyone |
| 20:15:19 | Laurent_ | wait until it works to thank ;) |
| 20:15:19 | Sebulba02 | np |
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| 20:21:18 | Bluechip | hey Laurent, any idea why "-x *.bak" is failing me in diff? |
| 20:22:03 | Laurent_ | is it comparing .bak even then ? |
| 20:22:12 | Bluechip | yes ?:( |
| 20:22:22 | Laurent_ | .BAK ? |
| 20:22:29 | Bluechip | no, lcs |
| 20:22:45 | Laurent_ | ah ok I see, it's bash |
| 20:22:51 | Laurent_ | try -x \*.bak |
| 20:23:08 | Laurent_ | bash is interpreting the star, with a \ it won't |
| 20:23:25 | Bluechip | ahhaaaaa |
| 20:24:28 | Bluechip | well done - experience wins the day again :) |
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| 20:24:52 | Bluechip | would have taken me weeks to spot that! lol |
| 20:25:05 | Laurent_ | errare humanum est, sed perseverare diabolicum |
| 20:25:13 | Bluechip | LOL |
| 20:25:23 | Bluechip | never seen that in Latin before :) |
| 20:26:44 | Laurent_ | my mother was a latin teacher ;) |
| 20:26:56 | Bluechip | lol - handy :) |
| 20:26:57 | Laurent_ | (she's retired) |
| 20:27:00 | Laurent_ | yup |
| 20:27:26 | Bluechip | hence why your english is better than most birts |
| 20:27:36 | Bluechip | brits |
| 20:28:21 | Laurent_ | thanks, but it's probably more classical |
| 20:29:29 | Bluechip | you'd sertainly have a better chance at finding a use for the word sesquipedalian than most people I've ever met :) |
| 20:29:51 | Laurent_ | well, I'm too afraid to force while opening the case... it's going to be long ;) |
| 20:30:00 | Bluechip | lol |
| 20:30:06 | Laurent_ | sesquipedalian ? huh, not sure I can use that word ;) |
| 20:30:28 | Bluechip | it defines itself very nicely |
| 20:30:58 | Laurent_ | oh I see ;) |
| 20:31:22 | Laurent_ | (thanks merriam webster) |
| 20:32:15 | midknight2k3 | hey top_bloke |
| 20:32:17 | midknight2k3 | hi Bluechip |
| 20:32:20 | midknight2k3 | hello Sebulba02 |
| 20:33:06 | Bluechip | evenin mk |
| 20:33:48 | midknight2k3 | morning bc |
| 20:34:09 | Bluechip | lol |
| 20:34:20 | Laurent_ | does anyone here have a x ray camera ? |
| 20:34:26 | midknight2k3 | I... WISH I DID |
| 20:34:26 | Laurent_ | that'd be helpful ;) |
| 20:34:49 | Bluechip | the first sony camcorders with nite vision could see thru clothing if that's any help |
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| 20:35:16 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 20:35:18 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 20:35:29 | Laurent_ | that'd be if I were trying to unlock some girls clothing but i'm trying to undress my gmini instead |
| 20:35:31 | Bluechip | on a more serious note, it depends on why - if it is important i am owed a favour or two |
| 20:35:46 | midknight2k3 | lmao |
| 20:37:30 | NHeal | orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 20:37:30 | NJoin | edx{essen} [0] (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net) |
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| 20:37:35 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 12 minutes at the last flood |
| 20:37:35 | * | Laurent_ tries a bigger screwdriver |
| 20:37:51 | Bluechip | ahhhhh, thought you might be trying to look under bga chips |
| 20:39:12 | Laurent_ | well, I'm trying to reach the chips first ;) |
| 20:39:33 | Bluechip | so what is a "gmini"? |
| 20:40:19 | Laurent_ | this is a gmini : http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500447.html?sid=j22oyjjobj2k2o4bco3kyo |
| 20:41:48 | Bluechip | cool - the new jukebox |
| 20:42:10 | Bluechip | CF & WMA |
| 20:42:16 | midknight2k3 | and PAY FOR PLUGINS |
| 20:42:23 | midknight2k3 | its like 20 bux for fm recorder |
| 20:42:27 | midknight2k3 | 30 for cf reader |
| 20:42:31 | midknight2k3 | 20 for recording |
| 20:42:33 | midknight2k3 | something like that |
| 20:42:35 | Bluechip | shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit |
| 20:42:39 | midknight2k3 | bullshit |
| 20:42:42 | Bluechip | cheeky b*strds |
| 20:43:01 | midknight2k3 | indeed |
| 20:43:13 | midknight2k3 | money to enable hardware in the device |
| 20:43:18 | Laurent_ | two plugins free in france where I got it |
| 20:43:23 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 20:43:28 | Bluechip | any got and tried a plugin yet and if so I hope they packet logged the entire transaction |
| 20:43:48 | Bluechip | how are they free - magic serial to type in? |
| 20:43:55 | midknight2k3 | dunno |
| 20:43:56 | Laurent_ | but my goal was to have rockbox on it : once the hardware is known, no more plugins to pay |
| 20:44:02 | midknight2k3 | i think you give em your serial |
| 20:44:08 | Laurent_ | yup serial number of the gmini |
| 20:44:10 | midknight2k3 | and they give you a plugin JUST FOR your box |
| 20:44:14 | midknight2k3 | so you cant download it free |
| 20:44:52 | Bluechip | wonder what encrpytion they're using |
| 20:45:00 | midknight2k3 | serial |
| 20:45:02 | midknight2k3 | SDD |
| 20:45:11 | midknight2k3 | Serial Dumb Decryption = SDD |
| 20:48:21 | Laurent_ | anyone got a saw ? |
| 20:48:27 | Bluechip | lol |
| 20:48:28 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 20:48:43 | midknight2k3 | if someone didnt saws wouldnt exist |
| 20:49:08 | Laurent_ | was that a pun ? |
| 20:49:16 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 20:49:18 | midknight2k3 | just info |
| 20:50:02 | Laurent_ | i don't get it even though ;) |
| 20:50:20 | midknight2k3 | IF NOBODY HAD A SAW THEN SAWS WOULD NOT EXIST |
| 20:50:50 | midknight2k3 | back in a few |
| 20:50:53 | midknight2k3 | sdd akk |
| 20:50:55 | midknight2k3 | all* |
| 20:51:00 | | Nick midknight2k3 is now known as MidK|BRB (zakk@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) |
| 20:51:04 | Laurent_ | still don't, call me dumb |
| 20:51:06 | Laurent_ | :) |
| 20:51:16 | MidK|BRB | i didnt |
| 20:51:17 | MidK|BRB | oh |
| 20:51:19 | MidK|BRB | lol |
| 20:51:25 | MidK|BRB | ok wait |
| 20:51:29 | MidK|BRB | listen carefully |
| 20:51:31 | Laurent_ | I got it |
| 20:51:36 | MidK|BRB | ok lol |
| 20:51:38 | Laurent_ | nobody in the world |
| 20:51:44 | MidK|BRB | eah |
| 20:51:46 | MidK|BRB | yeah |
| 20:51:50 | Laurent_ | phew |
| 20:51:51 | MidK|BRB | back in a efw |
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| 20:58:25 | Bluechip | anyone here use the x11 simulator? |
| 20:58:46 | Laurent_ | no, sorry |
| 20:58:54 | Laurent_ | not yet at least |
| 20:59:04 | Bluechip | before I try, do you know if it will even build on a windows box |
| 20:59:05 | Bluechip | ? |
| 20:59:17 | Laurent_ | no idea |
| 20:59:23 | Bluechip | will try... |
| 20:59:33 | Laurent_ | with cygwin ? |
| 20:59:36 | Bluechip | yes |
| 20:59:39 | Bluechip | with cygwin |
| 20:59:49 | Laurent_ | logically it should |
| 20:59:57 | Laurent_ | cygwin is pretty good |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:16 | Bluechip | that's cool - just wanted to check - don't want to end up chasing a non-existent tail |
| 21:00:30 | Laurent_ | but I might be wrong ;) |
| 21:00:48 | Bluechip | meh - you and me - that's double the votes i had two minutes ago :) |
| 21:00:56 | Laurent_ | lol |
| 21:01:48 | Laurent_ | no way to open the damn box |
| 21:01:49 | | Nick MidK|BRB is now known as midknight2k3 (zakk@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) |
| 21:01:50 | midknight2k3 | back |
| 21:01:51 | midknight2k3 | WAIT |
| 21:02:01 | midknight2k3 | i use it sometimes |
| 21:02:16 | Bluechip | your dev kit stable? |
| 21:02:22 | midknight2k3 | yull need a full cygwin to build it on windows i think |
| 21:02:29 | midknight2k3 | i dunno anymore |
| 21:02:34 | midknight2k3 | i dont think so |
| 21:02:40 | Bluechip | could be more aggro than it is worht then |
| 21:03:07 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 21:03:12 | midknight2k3 | wont RUN on windows |
| 21:03:23 | Bluechip | yes, thanks |
| 21:04:47 | Laurent_ | YEAGJ |
| 21:04:59 | Laurent_ | huh I mean YEAH |
| 21:05:03 | Laurent_ | (cat) |
| 21:06:08 | Laurent_ | I got it |
| 21:06:25 | Laurent_ | please call me king ;) |
| 21:06:27 | midknight2k3 | how |
| 21:06:28 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 21:06:29 | midknight2k3 | tell me |
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| 21:07:36 | Laurent_ | huh wait |
| 21:07:50 | Laurent_ | got to negociate keyboard access with the cat :) |
| 21:08:03 | midknight2k3 | ear |
| 21:08:04 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 21:08:08 | Bluechip | (dog) |
| 21:08:09 | earHertz | hey |
| 21:08:10 | Laurent_ | I managed to open the gmini |
| 21:08:12 | earHertz | Seen Linus? |
| 21:08:22 | midknight2k3 | not around |
| 21:08:23 | midknight2k3 | hope soon |
| 21:08:33 | midknight2k3 | prolly within the next few hours |
| 21:09:32 | Laurent_ | oh, broke it a bit in the process |
| 21:09:41 | midknight2k3 | how |
| 21:09:42 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 21:09:44 | Laurent_ | nothing important hopefully |
| 21:09:51 | Bluechip | make |
| 21:09:51 | Bluechip | annoying or bad news? |
| 21:09:52 | Laurent_ | some plastic clips |
| 21:09:58 | Laurent_ | yup nothing |
| 21:10:07 | Bluechip | phew |
| 21:10:15 | Laurent_ | science sometimes requires sacrifice ;) |
| 21:10:50 | Laurent_ | still runs ok |
| 21:11:02 | midknight2k3 | i want pictures |
| 21:11:07 | midknight2k3 | do you have a camera |
| 21:11:14 | Laurent_ | problem now : continue opening the gmini with cat on left arm |
| 21:11:23 | Laurent_ | yup |
| 21:11:25 | Laurent_ | wait |
| 21:11:30 | earHertz | Science? I thought you were protesting Archos's new business policy. ;) |
| 21:11:35 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 21:14:58 | Bluechip | keyboards are surprisingly far more water tolerant than most cats |
| 21:15:30 | midknight2k3 | yindeed. |
| 21:16:30 | Laurent_ | some cats love water |
| 21:16:46 | Laurent_ | mine jumped in my father's bath once ;) |
| 21:16:53 | midknight2k3 | mine sat in the sink |
| 21:16:59 | Bluechip | *most* ....rules are for fools to follow and for Wise Men to be guided by :) |
| 21:17:03 | midknight2k3 | and i turned on the water and it just stayed there getting wet |
| 21:17:18 | Bluechip | hmmm, the xsim build fails horrifically, even from a daily tar ball |
| 21:17:41 | Laurent_ | waoh |
| 21:17:49 | Bluechip | guess you need *n?x to build it at all :( |
| 21:17:55 | Laurent_ | i'd have been afraid him to be flushed |
| 21:18:03 | earHertz | Cats don't like orange. Spritx some oramge essense on it, the cat will go away. |
| 21:18:11 | Bluechip | cool |
| 21:18:16 | midknight2k3 | wer |
| 21:18:19 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 21:18:37 | Bluechip | anyone here got a unix box to hand? |
| 21:20:20 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 21:20:37 | Bluechip | do you have any idea how annoying that is dude? |
| 21:21:27 | midknight2k3 | is "sdd" any better? |
| 21:22:13 | midknight2k3 | but man its my means of communication. we lower life forms prefer simple words that come out by banging the typie thingy than inputting long lones of large readable words. |
| 21:22:44 | Bluechip | that's cool too just so you knew :) |
| 21:22:47 | earHertz | it's highly annoyijng, midknight2k3 |
| 21:23:05 | earHertz | it also probbaly annoys anyone reading the logs |
| 21:23:30 | midknight2k3 | but.. but... |
| 21:23:37 | midknight2k3 | fine. |
| 21:24:09 | Bluechip | we each have our own ways of making friends and enemies - lol |
| 21:24:24 | earHertz | screw you, jerkoff. ;) |
| 21:24:30 | Bluechip | lol |
| 21:24:34 | Bluechip | see? |
| 21:24:42 | midknight2k3 | SDD |
| 21:24:49 | Bluechip | QED |
| 21:25:27 | Laurent_ | i'm going to be annoying but what does all those abbrevs mean ? |
| 21:25:28 | Laurent_ | ;) |
| 21:25:39 | Bluechip | Quad Erat Demonstradum |
| 21:25:45 | Bluechip | :P |
| 21:26:03 | earHertz | Eer, Quod |
| 21:26:13 | * | Bluechip ducks as his spelling is corrected :) |
| 21:26:21 | midknight2k3 | dfh |
| 21:26:22 | Bluechip | "People called Romans, they go the house" |
| 21:26:29 | Laurent_ | hum, that's CQFD in french |
| 21:26:37 | Laurent_ | and for SDD ? |
| 21:26:45 | midknight2k3 | dfh i say! |
| 21:26:54 | midknight2k3 | listen carefully all |
| 21:26:58 | Bluechip | mk getting bored and seeking attention :) |
| 21:26:58 | midknight2k3 | SDD = nothing |
| 21:26:58 | earHertz | It means, "Thta is Demonstrated" in Latin |
| 21:27:00 | midknight2k3 | ASDF = nothing |
| 21:27:03 | midknight2k3 | DFAD = nothign |
| 21:27:07 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 21:27:08 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 21:27:34 | earHertz | Is a beat-down a form of attention? |
| 21:27:36 | Bluechip | ADD |
| 21:27:40 | earHertz | lol |
| 21:27:57 | midknight2k3 | heres a nifty trick |
| 21:28:13 | midknight2k3 | move your fingers offset 1 key to the left, and then thry and type in SDD |
| 21:28:13 | Laurent_ | by the way, i'm on a linux box, someone asked this |
| 21:28:35 | midknight2k3 | Laurent_ are there pictures |
| 21:28:59 | Bluechip | indeed - if/when you get 5 mins, I like you to help me test my patch |
| 21:29:11 | Laurent_ | there is one, I have to get the cf card out, plug it in the archos, then usb it to the linux |
| 21:29:20 | midknight2k3 | lmao |
| 21:29:29 | midknight2k3 | i mean |
| 21:29:30 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
| 21:31:21 | Laurent_ | plus i'm copying all my pictures to make sure I can erase the CF card (dont want to mix subject) |
| 21:31:24 | Laurent_ | plus i'm slow ;) |
| 21:33:17 | midknight2k3 | ol |
| 21:40:42 | midknight2k3 | lmao |
| 21:40:49 | midknight2k3 | an idea for project name for rockbox: |
| 21:40:52 | midknight2k3 | Fox-in-Sox |
| 21:42:30 | Laurent_ | ok got it |
| 21:42:39 | midknight2k3 | pic? |
| 21:44:18 | Laurent_ | go look there : http://lgiroud.chez.tiscali.fr/gmini_1.jpg |
| 21:44:48 | Laurent_ | too bad the gmini can't copy pictures while attached to PC via USB |
| 21:44:53 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 21:45:06 | midknight2k3 | looks neat |
| 21:45:16 | midknight2k3 | take s'more so at the end you can put them all up :D |
| 21:45:58 | Laurent_ | of course, but I'll redo a batch of photos in the correct order once I figure how to do everything properly |
| 21:49:53 | Bluechip | looks like one missing plastic arrow-head will be trivial |
| 21:51:35 | Bluechip | you've got some weird keys on your keyboard - lol |
| 21:51:53 | Laurent_ | french keyboard ;) |
| 21:51:56 | Bluechip | ahhhh |
| 21:52:12 | midknight2k3 | oo i wanna see |
| 21:52:34 | Laurent_ | part of the cat is visible at bottom right ;) |
| 21:52:35 | midknight2k3 | cool its the curvy L with a line in it key |
| 21:52:41 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 21:53:01 | Laurent_ | it's the british pound symbol |
| 21:53:31 | Bluechip | yes, what's with a British icon on a French keyboard? |
| 21:54:15 | Laurent_ | notice, there's a dollar too on the same key, probably all the important money symbols when keyboards were invented ;) |
| 21:54:37 | Bluechip | no quake II money back in them days |
| 21:55:40 | Bluechip | right - off to spend more "quality time" with the missus - lol |
| 21:55:48 | | Nick Bluechip is now known as bc|bbl (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 21:55:48 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK bc|bbl |
| 21:57:14 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:00 |
| 22:10:07 | Laurent_ | so, back to the gmini |
| 22:10:20 | midknight2k3 | yea woooo |
| 22:11:25 | Laurent_ | I managed to have good focus settings on my camera so next pics won't be blurry |
| 22:12:09 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 22:14:14 | Laurent_ | shit i dont remember how the metallic plate went |
| 22:14:30 | Laurent_ | good thing I have the picture |
| 22:14:32 | midknight2k3 | putting it back together? |
| 22:14:48 | Laurent_ | ok, I'm going to make pictures all the long right now or i'm dead ;) |
| 22:15:13 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
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| 22:18:20 | Sebulba02 | hmm |
| 22:26:17 | Laurent_ | it's even harder after removing the first half |
| 22:26:38 | midknight2k3 | dunt bust it |
| 22:26:40 | midknight2k3 | dont* |
| 22:26:42 | Laurent_ | this is not a jukebox, it's a chinese puzzle |
| 22:26:48 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 22:28:01 | Laurent_ | ok I get it |
| 22:28:59 | Laurent_ | I wonder if they made it harder voluntarily |
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| 22:29:42 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 22:29:43 | midknight2k3 | kurz |
| 22:29:50 | midknight2k3 | did you make that track splitter right |
| 22:30:03 | kurzhaarrocker | Im still on it |
| 22:30:20 | midknight2k3 | i dont know what the keys do can you write some info? |
| 22:30:36 | kurzhaarrocker | Yes, I will. |
| 22:31:12 | kurzhaarrocker | does anybody know wether there was a serious reason, why playlist_peek is not a real callback function? |
| 22:32:05 | midknight2k3 | kurz: you know the progress bar you made for the saving of the track? |
| 22:32:13 | Laurent_ | probably ;) |
| 22:32:29 | kurzhaarrocker | It doesn't go to the very right? :) |
| 22:33:40 | Laurent_ | hum, I lack hands |
| 22:33:42 | midknight2k3 | put it at the wps |
| 22:33:44 | midknight2k3 | i like it better |
| 22:34:02 | kurzhaarrocker | The progress bar? |
| 22:34:04 | Laurent_ | I guess those machines are assembled by xenomorph workers |
| 22:34:19 | kurzhaarrocker | what the %$§ is xenomorph |
| 22:34:22 | Laurent_ | with at least 10 fingers per hand and 4 or 5 hands |
| 22:34:39 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 22:34:45 | midknight2k3 | or make the existing one "fill up" liek yours |
| 22:34:59 | midknight2k3 | i like fill up better than squre moving |
| 22:35:32 | kurzhaarrocker | Hm. I didn't invent it. It was in the api for ever. :) |
| 22:35:46 | midknight2k3 | can you make a aptch for it |
| 22:35:46 | Laurent_ | xenomorph are an alien species from a very bad movie ;) |
| 22:36:26 | Laurent_ | for the xenomorph ? |
| 22:37:24 | kurzhaarrocker | my life is a bad movie, too |
| 22:37:56 | Laurent_ | compared to this movie, it's probably a woody allen ;) |
| 22:38:25 | | Quit top_bloke (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 22:38:42 | midknight2k3 | gotta go all |
| 22:38:43 | midknight2k3 | byeee |
| 22:38:48 | midknight2k3 | bakc later |
| 22:38:50 | | Quit midknight2k3 () |
| 22:39:45 | Laurent_ | ok now I get it |
| 22:40:01 | kurzhaarrocker | ? |
| 22:40:59 | Laurent_ | how to remove the second half of the cover |
| 22:41:11 | Laurent_ | without breaking the plastic bumper |
| 22:41:25 | kurzhaarrocker | disassembling your gmini? |
| 22:41:31 | Laurent_ | yup |
| 22:41:39 | Laurent_ | http://lgiroud.chez.tiscali.fr/gmini_1.jpg |
| 22:43:51 | Laurent_ | archos are evil |
| 22:44:09 | kurzhaarrocker | Then what are rockboxers? |
| 22:44:34 | Laurent_ | guardian angels |
| 22:45:22 | Laurent_ | ugh.. almost trashed the lcd with the screwdriver |
| 22:45:35 | Laurent_ | note for next time : be careful |
| 22:46:38 | Laurent_ | ok if I can't remove that cover within 5 minutes I invoke a demon |
| 22:47:29 | Infornogr4phy | i like my archos...i'm just afraid of two things... ARCHOS TECH SUPPORT...and archos MANUFACTURING.... |
| 22:47:32 | Laurent_ | like Bill Gates |
| 22:47:37 | Infornogr4phy | oh wait, and the price... |
| 22:47:39 | Infornogr4phy | there we go. |
| 22:47:45 | Laurent_ | that should scare the bejesus out of this machine |
| 22:48:18 | kurzhaarrocker | Sounds as if you train your gmini to do 2004 fireworks :) |
| 22:48:43 | Laurent_ | I hope not ;) |
| 22:51:27 | Laurent_ | I wonder if an IRM would help ? |
| 22:51:42 | Laurent_ | hum, no it would probably trash the hard disk |
| 22:51:43 | kurzhaarrocker | What's an irm? |
| 22:52:19 | Laurent_ | that's french for Imagerie Resonnance Magnétique |
| 22:53:05 | Laurent_ | Nuclear Magnetic resonance imagery |
| 22:53:15 | Laurent_ | ie scanner |
| 22:54:30 | kurzhaarrocker | A medical device? Not like x-ray? |
| 22:55:00 | Laurent_ | yes |
| 22:55:18 | Laurent_ | scans and builds a 3D image of organs |
| 22:57:28 | Laurent_ | http://www.ouest-radiologie.com/fr/scanner/scanner.html |
| 22:57:31 | Laurent_ | (in french) |
| 22:58:25 | Laurent_ | http://www.epub.org.br/cm/n01/pet/petworks.htm (english) |
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| 23:02:38 | kurzhaarrocker | Hope I never need one. |
| 23:03:17 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 23:03:29 | Laurent_ | it's so precise that they often detect minor defects that would not be detected otherwise |
| 23:03:56 | kurzhaarrocker | I thought that's what we have Zagor for. |
| 23:04:00 | Laurent_ | like, oh look, there's a small unusual bend on that vein, and so on |
| 23:04:44 | earHertz | an MRI in English |
| 23:04:47 | Laurent_ | if zagor can scan through gmini covers I have a use for him then ;) |
| 23:07:24 | Laurent_ | I can't believe I can't remove this cover |
| 23:07:41 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:07:41 | * | kurzhaarrocker passes Laurent_ an axe |
| 23:08:04 | Sebulba02 | slege hammer would be better |
| 23:08:10 | earHertz | the cover may be held down by flanges on the sides |
| 23:08:51 | earHertz | | |
| 23:08:53 | earHertz | \ <−− flange |
| 23:08:55 | earHertz | | |
| 23:09:02 | Laurent_ | yup I have identified them and they are now unclipped, but there seem to remain some under the cover |
| 23:09:19 | Laurent_ | if that were true then the cover could not be removed once plugged |
| 23:10:01 | earHertz | check for screws on the bootom |
| 23:10:03 | earHertz | check for screws holding the front cover to the pcb |
| 23:11:01 | Laurent_ | there seem to be none |
| 23:11:34 | Laurent_ | but i've got an idea : the front cover might be sealed to the lcd & electronic board |
| 23:11:35 | earHertz | hmm |
| 23:11:52 | Laurent_ | so I should try to unplug the hard drive to gain access to the electronic |
| 23:12:24 | earHertz | perhaps |
| 23:12:28 | Laurent_ | has anyone answered my post on the list btw ? |
| 23:12:31 | Laurent_ | that might help :) |
| 23:13:00 | earHertz | no one has |
| 23:19:10 | Laurent_ | what a lonesome cowboy I am ;) |
| 23:19:11 | | Quit lini (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 23:19:22 | earHertz | sory |
| 23:20:09 | Laurent_ | why ? |
| 23:21:33 | Laurent_ | ok this solution looks good |
| 23:21:45 | earHertz | sorry tyou yaven't more help |
| 23:22:19 | Laurent_ | YES ! |
| 23:22:21 | Laurent_ | got it! |
| 23:22:23 | kurzhaarrocker | I could give you a split editor - but it's for mp3 and not for gminis |
| 23:23:48 | | Nick edx is now known as edx{harald} (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:24:08 | Laurent_ | sorry no pics, I can't transfer them now that the HD is unplugged :) |
| 23:25:08 | Laurent_ | the hard drives makes a cling noise when fliped |
| 23:25:19 | Laurent_ | I hope it's normal |
| 23:25:24 | kurzhaarrocker | Is it an IBM? |
| 23:25:40 | Laurent_ | an Itachi travelstar |
| 23:26:05 | kurzhaarrocker | QUICK THROW IT OUT OF THE WINDOW BEFORE IT EXPLODES |
| 23:26:13 | Laurent_ | ;) |
| 23:26:15 | Laurent_ | DONE |
| 23:26:22 | Laurent_ | hum |
| 23:26:27 | Laurent_ | wait |
| 23:26:37 | Laurent_ | ;) |
| 23:26:50 | | Join meshuga [0] (firewall@12-211-43-89.client.attbi.com) |
| 23:26:56 | meshuga | anyone ever had: |
| 23:26:56 | meshuga | usb-storage: *** thread sleeping. |
| 23:26:57 | meshuga | Vendor: HITACHI_ Model: DK23DA-20 Rev: 00J2 |
| 23:26:57 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK meshuga |
| 23:26:57 | meshuga | Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 |
| 23:26:57 | meshuga | usb-storage: queuecommand() called |
| 23:26:59 | meshuga | usb-storage: *** thread awakened. |
| 23:27:00 | Laurent_ | should I open the window first ? |
| 23:27:01 | meshuga | usb-storage: Bad target number (1/0) |
| 23:27:03 | meshuga | usb-storage: *** thread sleeping. |
| 23:27:05 | meshuga | usb-storage: queuecommand() called |
| 23:27:07 | meshuga | usb-storage: *** thread awakened. |
| 23:27:09 | meshuga | usb-storage: Bad target number (2/0) |
| 23:27:13 | meshuga | happen to them when they tried to connect archos to linux? |
| 23:27:15 | meshuga | i just got it back from RMA |
| 23:27:17 | meshuga | and now this bullshit |
| 23:27:32 | meshuga | Linux reflect 2.4.21 #6 Thu Aug 21 00:09:37 PDT 2003 i686 unknown |
| 23:28:03 | kurzhaarrocker | Laurent: not necessary: it'll burst its way free anyway |
| 23:28:04 | kurzhaarrocker | IBM used to make drives calles travelstar and they do cklick when turned. |
| 23:28:24 | Laurent_ | ok the front cover is "screwed" to the board |
| 23:28:32 | Laurent_ | if I may say so ;) |
| 23:28:54 | Laurent_ | kurzhaarrocker: it looks like Itachi bought a stock from IBM of these |
| 23:29:08 | meshuga | or does the archos recorder 20 use a different usb chipset? |
| 23:29:39 | kurzhaarrocker | The recorder 20 uses the isd300 chip, the older models isd200, afaik |
| 23:30:09 | Laurent_ | there's one visible chip on board : smsc USB97C202-MN-03 |
| 23:30:40 | kurzhaarrocker | *shrug* |
| 23:30:42 | meshuga | Note 2: The In-System ISD-300 chip (05ab/0060) is a fully USB Mass Storage compliant chip, and therefore does not require a special driver. Just plug it in. If you want to take advantage of its' USB2.0 functionality (and you have a USB2.0 controller), you need to add USB2.0 support to your kernel. Otherwise it works just fine in USB1.1 mode too. |
| 23:30:43 | meshuga | :( |
| 23:31:27 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:31:27 | * | kurzhaarrocker *shrugs* again |
| 23:36:04 | Laurent_ | http://www.smsc.com/main/catalog/usb97c202.html "USB97C202 USB 2.0 ATA/ATAPI Controller" |
| 23:39:15 | | Join spg [0] (jirc@rouen-1-62-147-102-120.dial.proxad.net) |
| 23:39:22 | spg | hi !!! |
| 23:40:33 | kurzhaarrocker | hi |
| 23:40:34 | spg | Is a person who can helpme, I have a problem with video tools |
| 23:41:03 | kurzhaarrocker | I can't |
| 23:41:12 | spg | ok |
| 23:41:15 | meshuga | usb-storage: USB Mass Storage device detected |
| 23:41:15 | meshuga | usb-storage: Endpoints: In: 0xcfde2894 Out: 0xcfde2880 Int: 0xcfde28a8 (Period 9) |
| 23:41:15 | meshuga | usb-storage: Found existing GUID 05ab0060fffffffffff7d96a |
| 23:41:15 | meshuga | WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured |
| 23:41:15 | meshuga | USB Mass Storage device found at 4 |
| 23:41:16 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 23:41:16 | meshuga | root@altered:/usr/src/linux# cat /proc/bus/usb |
| 23:41:18 | meshuga | cat: /proc/bus/usb: Invalid argument |
| 23:42:08 | spg | bye |
| 23:42:09 | | Quit spg (Client Quit) |
| 23:42:35 | meshuga | hrm |
| 23:42:37 | Sebulba02 | meshuga: thats, uh, interesting.. |
| 23:43:26 | Laurent_ | ah shit , i broke a metallic part |
| 23:44:08 | Laurent_ | can be soldered back I hoe |
| 23:44:10 | Laurent_ | hope |
| 23:44:19 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 23:44:23 | Sebulba02 | what are you doing? |
| 23:44:26 | meshuga | Sebulba02 : i'd say, annoying. |
| 23:44:29 | meshuga | any ideas? |
| 23:45:01 | meshuga | i guess i'll go plug it in the gfs wintendo box :( |
| 23:45:11 | Sebulba02 | meshuga: looks like the disc is f'd up somehow, that'd be a good step |
| 23:45:17 | Sebulba02 | disk* |
| 23:45:34 | | Join Guest1 [0] (jirc@astound-66-234-214-245.ca.astound.net) |
| 23:45:38 | meshuga | i just got it back from RMA |
| 23:45:51 | Sebulba02 | heh, maybe you need to reformat it? |
| 23:46:07 | Guest1 | hello |
| 23:46:18 | Sebulba02 | hi |
| 23:46:40 | Guest1 | does anyone know about rockbox and pda issues |
| 23:47:03 | kurzhaarrocker | rockbox is not (yet) a pda |
| 23:47:04 | Sebulba02 | rockbox and pda issues? I wasn't aware rockbox would work on a pda |
| 23:47:19 | Guest1 | well, that's kinda what i'm asking about |
| 23:47:39 | Guest1 | it seems that all you need is a usb host controller for the pda right? |
| 23:48:20 | kurzhaarrocker | ? what do you want to do with a jukebox and a pda? |
| 23:48:35 | Sebulba02 | expand its harddrive? |
| 23:49:01 | Guest1 | just want to be able to access the storage of the archos from my pocket pc |
| 23:49:31 | Laurent_ | then you don't need rockbox on your archos nor your pda |
| 23:49:32 | kurzhaarrocker | There's nothing rockbox can do then. Drivers for the pda are necessary. |
| 23:50:10 | Guest1 | nobody is making drivers for the archos for pocket pc then? |
| 23:50:35 | kurzhaarrocker | Zagor made the Linux driver, I think |
| 23:50:40 | Laurent_ | Guest1: what you need is an usb storage driver for your pda |
| 23:50:52 | Laurent_ | not specifically for the archos |
| 23:51:07 | kurzhaarrocker | but for the isd200 / isd300 chip |
| 23:51:17 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 23:51:28 | Guest1 | laurant: ive tried a few none seem to work - kurz: i was looking into that but i don't have an ipaq |
| 23:52:25 | Guest1 | kurz: what do you mean the isd300/isd200 chip |
| 23:52:50 | kurzhaarrocker | That is the USB slave chip that makes the jukebox behave as an external usb drive. |
| 23:53:08 | Laurent_ | shit, I need to unsolder to gain access to the interesting part of the board |
| 23:53:45 | Guest1 | so there is a linux driver for the archos slave chip |
| 23:54:04 | kurzhaarrocker | ask meshuga about that :D |
| 23:54:11 | Guest1 | thanks |
| 23:54:34 | kurzhaarrocker | meshuga is _now_ fighting with it |
| 23:54:47 | meshuga | ok works fantastic in linux |
| 23:54:52 | meshuga | er windows 2000 |
| 23:55:15 | Laurent_ | Guest1: what os do you have on your pocket pc ? |
| 23:55:38 | Guest1 | laurent pocket pc 2002, it's toshiba genio |
| 23:56:08 | Laurent_ | so it's windows ce |
| 23:56:44 | Guest1 | yeah, when i connect through the usb - it asks me the name of the driver i would like to install |
| 23:57:07 | kurzhaarrocker | guest1: what did you mean by "but i don't have an ipaq"? Have you seen isd200 drivers for an ipaq? |
| 23:57:15 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:57:32 | Guest1 | kurz: i heard you can run linux on an ipaq |
| 23:57:40 | meshuga | you can |
| 23:57:42 | meshuga | it rules |
| 23:57:47 | meshuga | familiar.handhelds.org |
| 23:58:03 | meshuga | i dont think ipaqs have usb host controllers |
| 23:58:09 | meshuga | so you couldnt connect an archos |
| 23:58:13 | meshuga | but casios do |
| 23:58:23 | meshuga | and i *thought* a variant of linux ran on them |
| 23:58:31 | meshuga | e115? rings a bell |
| 23:58:34 | Guest1 | meshuga: can you run familiar on a toshiba genio |
| 23:58:41 | meshuga | no idea |
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