| 00:00:25 | | Join arspy87 [0] (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 00:00:34 | arspy87 | hey guys |
| 00:01:15 | diddystar5 | hey |
| 00:01:15 | Bluechip | hi spy |
| 00:01:22 | arspy87 | lol... hi spy |
| 00:01:48 | Sebulba02 | lets see if i totally broke this yet |
| 00:02:10 | Sebulba02 | yep |
| 00:02:15 | arspy87 | Seb: what is it? |
| 00:02:21 | Sebulba02 | rockbox |
| 00:02:25 | arspy87 | ah |
| 00:02:30 | Sebulba02 | I'm *attempting* to hack in timezone |
| 00:02:33 | Sebulba02 | s |
| 00:02:49 | arspy87 | ooh, that would be cool, to have timezones |
| 00:03:09 | Sebulba02 | yeah, but I totally don't get how this stuff is drawn |
| 00:03:21 | diddystar5 | what stuff |
| 00:03:22 | diddystar5 | ? |
| 00:03:27 | diddystar5 | display? |
| 00:03:36 | Sebulba02 | settings.c:1880 ish, yeah |
| 00:04:19 | Sebulba02 | I understand the snprintf into the buffer, but how it keeps track of which option its on, I don't see. |
| 00:04:22 | * | arspy87 wishes he had an archos |
| 00:04:53 | Bluechip | hey, ars dude, I uploaded the new win32sim patch ;) |
| 00:04:54 | diddystar5 | why are you here then? :) |
| 00:05:01 | diddystar5 | cool Bluechip |
| 00:05:05 | diddystar5 | what does it do? |
| 00:05:13 | | Quit kurzhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 00:05:17 | Bluechip | go read... |
| 00:05:17 | arspy87 | diddy: i'm just midknight2k3's friend, lol |
| 00:06:02 | diddystar5 | ohh |
| 00:06:07 | diddystar5 | me to :) |
| 00:06:08 | arspy87 | i'd get an ajbrec if i could find it at some retailer somewhere... |
| 00:06:11 | arspy87 | :) |
| 00:06:13 | diddystar5 | does he talk about me |
| 00:06:15 | diddystar5 | ? |
| 00:06:18 | Bluechip | amazon |
| 00:06:30 | arspy87 | how much do they go for these days? |
| 00:06:42 | Sebulba02 | $200ish, depending |
| 00:06:48 | Bluechip | 6gb was 140 i think |
| 00:06:50 | arspy87 | diddy: he hasn't mentioned you as far as i remember ;) |
| 00:06:55 | diddystar5 | heh |
| 00:06:59 | arspy87 | ooh not bad |
| 00:07:13 | Bluechip | in six months they will not exist any more i reckon |
| 00:07:42 | arspy87 | this topic has probably come up before, but will rockbox come on the new archoses? |
| 00:08:00 | * | Sebulba02 ponders breaking out the -CRAPd cvs flags. |
| 00:08:04 | diddystar5 | not rockbox |
| 00:08:21 | diddystar5 | but avos is being made for the av 300's |
| 00:08:28 | Bluechip | depends on how things go with archos being funny about it |
| 00:08:50 | arspy87 | is archos blocking the source on the new players or something? |
| 00:09:16 | Bluechip | you should read the news group |
| 00:09:28 | _Laurent | what news group ? |
| 00:09:31 | Bluechip | your last two q's have been the topic of in-depth conversations there |
| 00:09:37 | Bluechip | rockbox news group |
| 00:09:44 | _Laurent | huh ? |
| 00:09:51 | Sebulba02 | I've yet to get a message from them. |
| 00:09:52 | arspy87 | cool, i'll go there |
| 00:09:56 | Sebulba02 | The list, that is. |
| 00:10:05 | _Laurent | ah, the list |
| 00:10:36 | | Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Be181.b.pppool.de) |
| 00:10:46 | arspy87 | hey kurz |
| 00:10:47 | _Laurent | I was beginning to think that I was not only dumb but also blind ;) |
| 00:10:55 | kurzhaarrocker | I don't understand c |
| 00:11:02 | arspy87 | kurz: me neither! |
| 00:11:05 | Bluechip | which reference book do you own? |
| 00:11:22 | kurzhaarrocker | Not any single one |
| 00:11:32 | Bluechip | I *may* have spotted your problem |
| 00:11:48 | kurzhaarrocker | My problem started when I wanted to include settings.h in plugin.h |
| 00:12:14 | Bluechip | don't know that particular error message |
| 00:12:15 | arspy87 | can you do that? include includes? |
| 00:12:16 | Sebulba02 | why would that cause issues? |
| 00:12:23 | kurzhaarrocker | Some very clever man thought it was a good idea to make an enum |
| 00:12:23 | kurzhaarrocker | enum optiontype { OPT_INT, OPT_BOOL }; |
| 00:12:33 | arspy87 | include in includes* |
| 00:12:37 | kurzhaarrocker | No, it was enum optiontype { INT, BOOL }; |
| 00:12:41 | Sebulba02 | yes, you can |
| 00:13:07 | kurzhaarrocker | But as soon as you have windows.h, too you have BOOL INT and some other stuff redefined. |
| 00:13:16 | arspy87 | hmm, too bad i can't get it to work in html haha |
| 00:13:47 | kurzhaarrocker | So -> simulator didn't work. I thought the best idea was to rename these things to OPT_XXX |
| 00:15:02 | kurzhaarrocker | And what happened? id3.c doesn't compile because it claims undefined references to DEBUGF. How can that be? The file - as well as the includes are untouched! |
| 00:15:05 | Bluechip | what OS |
| 00:15:15 | kurzhaarrocker | xp with cygwin. |
| 00:15:21 | Sebulba02 | ohh, its a news:// list , not a mailing list? |
| 00:15:23 | kurzhaarrocker | When I compile the clean cvs it works |
| 00:15:30 | Bluechip | does a tarball compile okay? |
| 00:15:41 | Bluechip | right, so it's your edit somehow |
| 00:16:12 | Bluechip | which files did you edit? |
| 00:16:18 | _Laurent | is anyone living in florida here ? |
| 00:16:24 | Sebulba02 | I am. |
| 00:16:34 | Bluechip | lucky B* |
| 00:16:36 | Sebulba02 | Right smack in the middle of it. |
| 00:16:46 | Sebulba02 | Bluechip: I don't think so, *shrugs* |
| 00:16:50 | arspy87 | how's the weather there Seb? |
| 00:16:53 | _Laurent | how long is it since it's night where you are approximately ? |
| 00:16:53 | Bluechip | trade you ANY day |
| 00:17:01 | Sebulba02 | hot as f*ck, usually |
| 00:17:13 | Sebulba02 | about an hour, maybe |
| 00:17:16 | Bluechip | You would LOVE UK |
| 00:17:16 | arspy87 | it's freezing in the northeast |
| 00:17:30 | | Quit top_bloke (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 00:17:30 | Sebulba02 | dude, i'd love anywhere but here |
| 00:17:34 | _Laurent | ok, thanks |
| 00:17:36 | Bluechip | dark, miserable, cloudy, windy, cold :) |
| 00:17:45 | Bluechip | everything is overpriced |
| 00:17:51 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 00:17:57 | Bluechip | petrol is about $10/Gallan |
| 00:17:58 | Bluechip | on |
| 00:17:59 | arspy87 | haha |
| 00:18:04 | Sebulba02 | gah |
| 00:18:10 | Bluechip | shop-tax is 17.5% |
| 00:18:14 | Sebulba02 | its different there, your govt pays for a lot of crap |
| 00:18:19 | kurzhaarrocker | modified files: |
| 00:18:20 | kurzhaarrocker | M apps/playlist_menu.c |
| 00:18:20 | kurzhaarrocker | M apps/plugin.c |
| 00:18:20 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK kurzhaarrocker |
| 00:18:20 | kurzhaarrocker | M apps/plugin.h |
| 00:18:20 | kurzhaarrocker | M apps/settings.c |
| 00:18:20 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 00:18:20 | kurzhaarrocker | M apps/settings.h |
| 00:18:22 | arspy87 | i wish there was a Fry's in the northeast but there isnt |
| 00:18:22 | kurzhaarrocker | M apps/settings_menu.c |
| 00:18:24 | kurzhaarrocker | M apps/sound_menu.c |
| 00:18:25 | Bluechip | income tax & NI is about 33% |
| 00:18:26 | kurzhaarrocker | M firmware/mpeg.c |
| 00:18:28 | kurzhaarrocker | M firmware/export/mpeg.h |
| 00:18:33 | Sebulba02 | ack |
| 00:18:49 | arspy87 | Blue: wow |
| 00:20:08 | Bluechip | ciggies are about $9 for 20 |
| 00:20:24 | Sebulba02 | I don't smoke. |
| 00:20:34 | diddystar5 | heh |
| 00:20:38 | diddystar5 | "ciggies" |
| 00:20:49 | Bluechip | i would say "fags" but .... |
| 00:20:55 | kurzhaarrocker | I don't see a single file that is included by id3.c |
| 00:20:57 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 00:21:17 | Bluechip | lucky you dont drink either at about $10/pint |
| 00:21:31 | arspy87 | slang is crazy between US/UK ;) |
| 00:21:32 | Bluechip | unless you are in london ...then it is expensive |
| 00:22:33 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 00:25:22 | kurzhaarrocker | I just don't why it can compile in the clean version and not in my modified. There are no differences as far as id3.c are concerned. |
| 00:25:28 | kurzhaarrocker | I don't see any |
| 00:26:10 | Bluechip | make a patch and send it over :) |
| 00:26:23 | arspy87 | brb |
| 00:27:36 | arspy87 | kurz is it possible that whatever line you edited depended on something in the id3 file? or however nested it may be?> |
| 00:28:04 | kurzhaarrocker | I have searched and didn' t see anything |
| 00:28:10 | Sebulba02 | god, htf did I subscribe to the wrong list? |
| 00:28:12 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 00:28:12 | * | kurzhaarrocker patches |
| 00:28:21 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 00:29:56 | diddystar5 | Bluechip: MAS-3587 specific features |
| 00:29:56 | diddystar5 | , what are those? |
| 00:30:22 | Bluechip | do you have the 3587 data sheet? |
| 00:30:44 | Bluechip | It's the dynamic Bass stuff |
| 00:30:46 | diddystar5 | and also, the reason the .rvf and .ch8 files fail it because of the #ifndef SIMULATOR |
| 00:30:52 | diddystar5 | ohh |
| 00:31:20 | diddystar5 | i know the .ch8 files work if you just remove the #ifndef simulator and the #edif for it |
| 00:31:25 | diddystar5 | i dunno about the rvf |
| 00:31:38 | Bluechip | can you be more specific? |
| 00:31:50 | Bluechip | preferably in reference to the NEW code |
| 00:32:03 | arspy87 | (off topic) speaking of rvf, how does the lcd handle the grayscale? |
| 00:32:16 | arspy87 | (like good or bad) |
| 00:32:17 | Sebulba02 | wtf |
| 00:32:18 | Bluechip | flashing the elements I guess |
| 00:32:34 | diddystar5 | clode to the start of chip8.c, remove the #ifndef SIMULATOR, and a the end of the file remove #endif // #ifndef SIMULATOR |
| 00:32:46 | diddystar5 | arspy87, very well |
| 00:32:48 | arspy87 | yeah, i meant does it run nicely and are there any adverse effects from the refreshing, etc? |
| 00:32:53 | arspy87 | nice! |
| 00:33:09 | diddystar5 | its not the best looking but it is amasing |
| 00:33:14 | kurzhaarrocker | www.carangg.de/spliteditor_rec.zip |
| 00:33:23 | kurzhaarrocker | (the patch included) |
| 00:34:22 | diddystar5 | Bluechip: i already have apatch out that enable the chip8 for the simulator, you can just see that |
| 00:34:40 | diddystar5 | but just forget the part i cahnges in firmware/drivers/lcd-recorder.c |
| 00:35:17 | * | diddystar5 can;t type well today |
| 00:35:37 | Bluechip | i gotta eat now - will check that l8r :) |
| 00:35:37 | Sebulba02 | that t1 getting to your head ;) |
| 00:35:46 | | Nick Bluechip is now known as bc|bbl (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 00:35:46 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK bc|bbl |
| 00:35:53 | kurzhaarrocker | eating *sigh* |
| 00:36:02 | bc|bbl | ??? |
| 00:36:15 | diddystar5 | bc|bbl: here is the link to that patch http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=842608&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 00:36:17 | kurzhaarrocker | me has the shit's since 3 days |
| 00:36:26 | Sebulba02 | that sucks |
| 00:36:26 | bc|bbl | oh :( |
| 00:36:27 | kurzhaarrocker | I don't want to eat |
| 00:36:42 | arspy87 | kurz: :( |
| 00:36:44 | diddystar5 | uhh k |
| 00:36:51 | diddystar5 | well im gotta go |
| 00:36:55 | diddystar5 | see you guys later |
| 00:37:02 | kurzhaarrocker | cu |
| 00:37:08 | arspy87 | cya diddy |
| 00:37:20 | diddystar5 | bye arspy87 bc|bbl kurzhaarrocker |
| 00:37:27 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") |
| 00:41:22 | kurzhaarrocker | mpeg.c uses lots of DEBUGF and doesn't complain. |
| 00:43:13 | Sebulba02 | uh, yeah, theres a bug with the mailing list process |
| 00:43:38 | kurzhaarrocker | What does it do? |
| 00:43:53 | Sebulba02 | more of what it doesn't do. |
| 00:44:27 | Sebulba02 | " Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it:" and its blank afterwards.. i'm assuming that would contain the send list info and whatnot. |
| 00:45:12 | kurzhaarrocker | hm. |
| 00:46:18 | Sebulba02 | weird, eh? |
| 00:47:08 | kurzhaarrocker | I already deleted the welcome mail. I have no idea what was in it. |
| 00:47:38 | Sebulba02 | I always save it. |
| 00:50:51 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 00:50:51 | * | kurzhaarrocker gives up for today |
| 00:51:41 | kurzhaarrocker | how late is it in florida? |
| 00:52:21 | Sebulba02 | 7pm-ish |
| 00:52:30 | Sebulba02 | 7 mins til |
| 00:52:31 | arspy87 | 6:52 EST |
| 00:52:44 | Sebulba02 | Okay, so my alarm clock is off. |
| 00:52:54 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 00:53:31 | kurzhaarrocker | well, here it's 0:53. I think I'll have a nap now. |
| 00:53:41 | kurzhaarrocker | cu |
| 00:53:43 | _Laurent | kurzhaarrocker: are you in germany ? |
| 00:53:46 | kurzhaarrocker | yes |
| 00:54:13 | Sebulba02 | good night (in german) |
| 00:54:13 | _Laurent | same time than france that's how I guessed + "kurz" :) |
| 00:54:23 | _Laurent | got to go to sleep too |
| 00:54:32 | _Laurent | good bye everyone |
| 00:54:38 | Sebulba02 | 'morning |
| 00:54:41 | _Laurent | :) |
| 00:54:52 | kurzhaarrocker | Gute Nacht! Bonne nuit! (?) |
| 00:55:17 | _Laurent | gute nach auch ! Bonne nuit ist perfekt ;) |
| 00:55:20 | Sebulba02 | beats me |
| 00:55:26 | _Laurent | what ? |
| 00:56:56 | | Quit _Laurent ("time to go, bye !") |
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| 01:08:40 | | Nick bc|bbl is now known as Bluechip (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 01:08:40 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Bluechip |
| 01:13:32 | | Quit kurzhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 01:17:44 | | Part arspy87 |
| 01:22:20 | | Quit cjnr11 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 01:23:04 | | Join c0utta [0] (~btcoutts@dialup-213.54.221.203.acc05-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) |
| 01:29:05 | | Join trakkk [0] (jirc@ACBD33B5.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:45:30 | | Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it") |
| 01:50:59 | | Quit trakkk ("Leaving") |
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| 01:55:11 | | Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 01:55:27 | Bluechip | Hey go Linus - have a good one? |
| 01:56:06 | LinusN | sure, how about you? |
| 01:56:20 | Bluechip | great thanks - remote control car :) |
| 01:56:32 | LinusN | :-) |
| 01:56:33 | Bluechip | and new computer chair (to be selected by me) |
| 01:56:43 | LinusN | nice |
| 01:57:11 | Bluechip | and to be chuffed with myself - i got the rest of the win32sim stuff working :) |
| 01:57:25 | Bluechip | so YES, I had a very good one thanks :) |
| 01:57:33 | LinusN | why did you rmeove the "archos" dir? |
| 01:57:41 | Bluechip | there seemed no use for it |
| 01:57:46 | Bluechip | it was used by nothing |
| 01:58:04 | LinusN | it is the root of the simulated HD |
| 01:58:23 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 01:58:32 | Bluechip | the disk browser starts in the root of my hard drive |
| 01:58:44 | Bluechip | ...always did |
| 01:58:53 | LinusN | that's a bug |
| 01:59:00 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:59:00 | Bluechip | ahhhhhh |
| 01:59:08 | LinusN | :-) |
| 01:59:10 | Sebulba02 | fixed it the wrong way :P |
| 01:59:30 | Bluechip | lol |
| 01:59:59 | Bluechip | i find it helpful - then I can just find my mp3 dir on my hdd D:\MUSIC\ |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:17 | Bluechip | I can change it though, if it would be preferred |
| 02:01:05 | LinusN | i think it's better with a custom dir |
| 02:01:06 | Bluechip | My view is ...when you work in two or three source trees you will need multiple copies of the "disk image" |
| 02:01:24 | LinusN | maybe some kind of setting, like a .INI file? |
| 02:01:35 | Bluechip | hmmmm |
| 02:01:53 | Bluechip | ahaa ... |
| 02:02:05 | Bluechip | put back the archos folder and make .rockbox off of that automagically |
| 02:02:32 | Bluechip | then, if you prefer, you can make the archos folder yourself as a symlink to whereever the heck you like? |
| 02:02:36 | LinusN | yeah, and make the plugins in archos/.rockbox/rocks |
| 02:02:56 | LinusN | mayhe %ARCHOS%/.rockbox |
| 02:03:11 | LinusN | $ARCHOS in linux |
| 02:03:19 | Bluechip | that works |
| 02:03:22 | Bluechip | too |
| 02:03:31 | LinusN | or maybe $PLAYERDIR and $RECORDERDIR |
| 02:03:34 | Bluechip | lol |
| 02:04:06 | LinusN | sometimes i need different trees for different models |
| 02:04:23 | Sebulba02 | .oO( Good luck on that :) ) |
| 02:04:58 | Bluechip | okay - i can understand that ...not long before the NEO becomes a relevant consideration too |
| 02:05:18 | scott666 | and the fm/v2? |
| 02:05:26 | Bluechip | fm & v2 are recorders |
| 02:05:56 | Bluechip | gotta take a look at the Player screen IO sometime - I'm sure it's not right |
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| 02:06:30 | Bluechip | ...but not knowing what I am aiming for... |
| 02:10:02 | Bluechip | so would the user be required to know to SET PLAYER=C:\ SET RECORDER=D:\ during install ...or would we ask about this during 'configure' |
| 02:11:02 | LinusN | configure would be a great place, with ./archos as default |
| 02:11:02 | Sebulba02 | export PLAYER=$variable :) |
| 02:11:52 | Bluechip | or maybe insist on /home/rockbox/player_hdd and /home/rockbox/recorder_hdd ??? |
| 02:11:59 | Bluechip | just bouncing all ideas |
| 02:12:48 | LinusN | not sure |
| 02:13:16 | Bluechip | i suppose the essence here is ...should all source trees use the same hdd structure? |
| 02:13:20 | LinusN | i am kind of used to the current concept... |
| 02:14:26 | Bluechip | that's fair |
| 02:16:42 | Bluechip | I am doing some audio stuff atm, i will wait a day or two for other feedback and make changes then :) |
| 02:18:26 | LinusN | are you doing MDB fine tuning? |
| 02:18:49 | Bluechip | Yes, |
| 02:19:02 | Bluechip | also redoing the audio screen in general |
| 02:19:38 | Bluechip | also user defined stereo seperation |
| 02:19:51 | LinusN | i have done mdb fine tuning, and we also have another patch for it, what's your approach? |
| 02:20:13 | Bluechip | oh! not seen it ....I was thinking of a dynamic graph |
| 02:20:46 | LinusN | i was thinking of only selecting the cutoff frequency and the strength |
| 02:20:58 | LinusN | as user options |
| 02:21:04 | Bluechip | i'm going for a full blown register level setup |
| 02:21:26 | Bluechip | I imagine that only techie users will enjoy it |
| 02:21:37 | LinusN | my thinking is this: the average user won't have a clue what do do |
| 02:22:00 | Bluechip | qed |
| 02:22:02 | Bluechip | :) |
| 02:22:08 | LinusN | but setting the cutoff freq to match the earphones/speakers would suffice |
| 02:22:51 | Bluechip | If peple like the new interface in general, then perhaps a few defaults, as with stereo seperation |
| 02:23:08 | Bluechip | user/techie mode |
| 02:23:52 | LinusN | maybe, but what if you tweak it in expert mode and then switch to novice mode, what would the setting show? |
| 02:24:14 | LinusN | (custom) or something? |
| 02:24:36 | Bluechip | "Custom" |
| 02:24:38 | Bluechip | yes |
| 02:25:02 | Bluechip | atm the advanced screens are under the PLAY button |
| 02:26:18 | LinusN | i'll await your patch and judge from that |
| 02:26:25 | Bluechip | sure |
| 02:26:43 | LinusN | the settings screen really needs a touchup |
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| 02:27:05 | Bluechip | well, if what have in my head looks as good on the screen, then it will be a pleasant surprise :) |
| 02:27:50 | trakk | hi |
| 02:28:04 | Bluechip | ho |
| 02:30:34 | | Quit trakk (Client Quit) |
| 02:45:54 | c0utta | hey guys |
| 02:45:59 | LinusN | hi |
| 02:46:07 | Bluechip | evenin |
| 02:46:14 | c0utta | i haven't spoken to you in about 2 years linus |
| 02:46:28 | LinusN | oh |
| 02:46:55 | c0utta | i reckon i was one of the 1st to have a recorder 6gb working |
| 02:47:09 | LinusN | ah |
| 02:47:22 | c0utta | no sound at that stage, just the early WPS |
| 02:48:07 | LinusN | a true veteran :-) |
| 02:48:11 | c0utta | i've just started reviewing the code for rockbox and would like to contribute |
| 02:48:16 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 02:48:16 | * | Bluechip steps back in awe |
| 02:48:42 | c0utta | Bluechip: steeping back cos i'm a veteran ? or wanting to contribute ? |
| 02:48:56 | c0utta | steeping=stepping |
| 02:48:59 | Bluechip | in respect for the veteran |
| 02:49:28 | c0utta | linus was emailing be ajz files to check for ata problems |
| 02:49:38 | c0utta | be=me dyslexic fingers... |
| 02:50:12 | c0utta | anyway, i'd like to map Fn keys. does anyone here have an approach ? |
| 02:50:37 | LinusN | not really, what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 02:50:43 | c0utta | i'm a novice c programmer - used to be intermediate but haven't done it for a few years |
| 02:50:52 | Bluechip | my recent thoughts are f1 main menu, f2 cutom menu, f3 context menu |
| 02:52:35 | c0utta | i never use f2/f3 at all. hardeep's browse patch has changed my life, so i wanted to map some of the functions to those keys |
| 02:52:57 | | Part LinusN |
| 02:53:07 | c0utta | how do you guys feel about pointers to functions ? |
| 02:53:27 | c0utta | is this possible under our development environment ? |
| 02:53:30 | Bluechip | ermmmm, without them the plugin systems would die |
| 02:53:36 | Bluechip | yes |
| 02:54:18 | c0utta | what i considered was having a table of all the allowable mappable functions |
| 02:54:30 | Bluechip | yes, great idea :) |
| 02:54:42 | c0utta | problem is, it could be huge! |
| 02:55:19 | Bluechip | hmmmm, I don't think we have any memory problems since the plugins were all seperated from the main code |
| 02:55:48 | Bluechip | but it would be an amazingly modular approach for the whole system |
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| 02:55:53 | k4waii | yo |
| 02:56:05 | k4waii | anyone here with an av300..? or only jbmm's... |
| 02:56:23 | Bluechip | not me |
| 02:56:28 | c0utta | me neither |
| 02:56:32 | Sebulba02 | Not I. |
| 02:57:43 | c0utta | Bluechip: for example, F3-Right could be mapped directly to delete from playlist (using hardeep's functions) |
| 02:58:37 | c0utta | it would bypass his playlist_viewer, but would use static functions. this means they can't be static anymore |
| 02:58:45 | c0utta | i don't know if this was his intention |
| 02:58:49 | Bluechip | I thought of ...press F3, menu pops up, key items have > >> >| etc icons next to them |
| 02:59:06 | c0utta | exactly what i'd like to do. |
| 02:59:23 | Bluechip | then if you know the shortcut you can do f3+right and never see the menu |
| 02:59:34 | c0utta | adjusting the code is easy enough myself, but that's selfish |
| 02:59:51 | Bluechip | selfish? |
| 02:59:55 | Bluechip | ?? |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:16 | c0utta | a lot of people make the request for remappable keys |
| 03:00:18 | Sebulba02 | Glad I'm not the only one that didn't make sense to. |
| 03:00:28 | c0utta | selfish to just do it for myself |
| 03:00:32 | c0utta | easier tho |
| 03:00:52 | Bluechip | ah - no ...if you like the idea I proposed above then please Do The Work For Me :))) |
| 03:01:35 | c0utta | Bluechip: exactly what i wanted to do |
| 03:01:57 | Bluechip | LOL - oh it IS a happy Christmas :) |
| 03:02:10 | Sebulba02 | lol |
| 03:02:27 | c0utta | is there any reason why Up/Play/On aren't used on the F2/F3 menus ? |
| 03:02:43 | Bluechip | yes |
| 03:02:50 | Bluechip | the kbd is in two chunks |
| 03:03:28 | c0utta | chunks ?? |
| 03:03:45 | Bluechip | one key can be read from each "chunk" |
| 03:04:03 | Bluechip | scan line? |
| 03:04:10 | Bluechip | grid array? |
| 03:04:57 | c0utta | are the limitations documented ? |
| 03:04:59 | Sebulba02 | Err. |
| 03:05:16 | Bluechip | i've read it somewhere, so it must be- but ermmmmmmmmmm |
| 03:05:34 | * | Sebulba02 turns on some insane wa5 visualization |
| 03:06:12 | Bluechip | check /firmware/drivers/button.c:180 |
| 03:07:49 | c0utta | go it |
| 03:07:52 | c0utta | got it |
| 03:08:42 | Bluechip | as you can tell, it's quite easy to find your way around the source, once you know it |
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| 03:09:44 | LinusN | oops, didn't see the modem connection drop :-) |
| 03:10:09 | Bluechip | missed some fun chat on f1/2/3 functionality |
| 03:10:18 | LinusN | Bluechip: have you read the NEWKEYS document from me and bagder? |
| 03:10:30 | Bluechip | no? |
| 03:10:36 | Bluechip | where is it? |
| 03:11:15 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-08/0584.shtml |
| 03:11:44 | Bluechip | lol |
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| 03:11:57 | Bluechip | hey c0utta, think you better read that too |
| 03:13:04 | c0utta | reading..... |
| 03:13:37 | Bluechip | seems everybody had almost identical ideas - lol |
| 03:15:21 | Bluechip | So, Linus, is that coded or just specced? |
| 03:15:30 | LinusN | only specced |
| 03:15:44 | Bluechip | righty |
| 03:16:26 | Bluechip | c0utta suggested a big array of ptr-to-fn for all possible menu entries, but was concerned about memory use |
| 03:17:21 | c0utta | and that some of the functions are statics.. |
| 03:17:32 | c0utta | well..the ones that i want to use |
| 03:18:40 | LinusN | the big problem is how to handle the buttons (like the filtering of some release events etc) and avoiding stack overflows due to recursion |
| 03:21:04 | Bluechip | you could call via a CALL_MENU function which would track recursion |
| 03:22:12 | Bluechip | if item_previously_displayed[OPTION]==true ... |
| 03:22:18 | LinusN | sort of |
| 03:22:39 | LinusN | but what would it do if it was true? |
| 03:22:57 | Bluechip | disable the item |
| 03:23:02 | Bluechip | not display it |
| 03:23:11 | LinusN | not very user friendly |
| 03:23:26 | Bluechip | you could go to any option via your favourite route, but once it was displayed, any deeper and you've missed your chance |
| 03:23:27 | LinusN | the user would be lost |
| 03:23:44 | Bluechip | or allow it to be displayed no more than 2 or three times |
| 03:24:09 | LinusN | or backtrack by returning a "go-here-instead" return code |
| 03:24:46 | Bluechip | ...when the item returns, it returns to CALL_MENU which -=1 the counter on the way back out |
| 03:25:18 | c0utta | sh*t, i'm lost |
| 03:25:25 | Bluechip | you have four choices - remove, gray-out, donothing, display "no" |
| 03:25:26 | c0utta | how would this recursion occur ? |
| 03:25:49 | Bluechip | yes, that's quite a good question |
| 03:26:18 | Bluechip | i can't actually think of an example |
| 03:26:22 | Bluechip | (kettle) brb |
| 03:26:24 | LinusN | this is why i said that this was the biggest problem |
| 03:26:47 | c0utta | is it actually possible ? |
| 03:27:03 | LinusN | everytime this issue (mappable keys) comes up, everyone starts talking about how the config files should look like, but that is the simples problem of them all |
| 03:29:18 | Bluechip | can you identify an example where recursion could become a problem |
| 03:29:22 | Bluechip | ? |
| 03:29:44 | c0utta | LinusN: are you saying that recursion is possible in the keyboard code itself ? |
| 03:30:08 | c0utta | or by a user selecting mutually exclusive key options ? |
| 03:30:20 | LinusN | like if we allowed remapping of the Sound Settings, in which the User Menu has the Sound Settings in it (simplest case) |
| 03:30:49 | Bluechip | you cannot go to the f2 menu while you are in the f1 menu |
| 03:31:00 | Bluechip | good solution? |
| 03:31:00 | LinusN | why not? |
| 03:31:05 | c0utta | yes you can - i just did it |
| 03:31:24 | Bluechip | a proposed solution for avoiding recursion |
| 03:31:27 | Bluechip | ^^ |
| 03:31:43 | c0utta | i agree with Bluechip - F1 is the "master" |
| 03:32:17 | c0utta | f2/f3 should just be "shortcuts" |
| 03:32:48 | LinusN | so, let's say the user selects "Pitch Screen" from the F2 menu |
| 03:33:01 | LinusN | the pitch screen has the same F1 and F2 menus |
| 03:33:38 | LinusN | he then selects another screen, let's say "Recording" |
| 03:33:41 | Bluechip | you cannot short-cut from a shortcut?? |
| 03:33:54 | LinusN | that may be confusing for the user |
| 03:34:05 | Bluechip | hmmm |
| 03:34:20 | Bluechip | the problem comes from using menu systems from within menu systems |
| 03:34:26 | LinusN | yup |
| 03:34:55 | LinusN | i'm only saying that we need to think it through |
| 03:35:08 | Bluechip | maybe each situation can be tackled |
| 03:35:15 | LinusN | phil has walked this path once, and he had a hard time |
| 03:35:38 | LinusN | phil==kurzhaarrocker, formerly known as langhaarrocker |
| 03:35:55 | LinusN | he tried to implement "soft" keys |
| 03:35:59 | Bluechip | eg - only reason to go to a menu from recording is to STOP or CHANGE settings ...here I have always thought that record settings should be off the record screen |
| 03:36:12 | LinusN | recording was a bad example, i know |
| 03:36:21 | Bluechip | hmm |
| 03:36:35 | Bluechip | but it WAS a valid case |
| 03:36:46 | LinusN | yes |
| 03:37:21 | Bluechip | ...and, I'd like to think, a valid solution |
| 03:38:10 | Bluechip | you could put the RECORD options on F3 - context-menu |
| 03:39:37 | LinusN | sure |
| 03:40:12 | c0utta | if we go back to basics tho... |
| 03:40:16 | Bluechip | yes |
| 03:40:24 | LinusN | but should we then make the record options non-mappable? |
| 03:40:39 | c0utta | a user will most probably want to use F2/F3 from either WPS or directory browser |
| 03:40:44 | Bluechip | no - i do a lot of recording so I want record at the top of my user-menu (example) |
| 03:41:02 | Bluechip | c0utta, yes |
| 03:41:24 | c0utta | recording is more like an " |
| 03:41:32 | c0utta | "application" to me. |
| 03:42:10 | Bluechip | i think all plugins should be user-menu-able too, and yes, I also consider "recording" to be a built-in plugin |
| 03:42:40 | c0utta | types of things i'm looking at are: delete file; delete from current playlist; add to current playlist; stuff like that. actions, if you like... |
| 03:42:51 | LinusN | Bluechip: i was talking about the recording *options* |
| 03:42:53 | c0utta | i think settings are best left to F1 |
| 03:43:10 | Bluechip | your options there are context-options really |
| 03:43:27 | c0utta | true |
| 03:43:36 | Bluechip | i hate digging through the menu system to change my backlight timing |
| 03:43:48 | c0utta | why do you change it so often ?? |
| 03:43:52 | Bluechip | I would love that on my user-favourites menu |
| 03:44:10 | Bluechip | video/games/etc need backlight always on |
| 03:44:46 | Bluechip | "look at my mp3 player"..."oh you'll need to keep pressing a key every 8 seconds or you wont be able to see it" |
| 03:44:49 | Sebulba02 | It is a pain sometimes, esp in the dark. |
| 03:45:19 | Bluechip | yes, impossible to read the credits in the dark!! |
| 03:45:44 | c0utta | ok, you have F2-Right set to change backlight. |
| 03:46:07 | c0utta | all other keys are blocked, except left/off/up/down |
| 03:46:13 | c0utta | no f1, f2, f3 |
| 03:47:21 | c0utta | which it is now. backlight would be a good option |
| 03:47:35 | Bluechip | im lost |
| 03:47:54 | Bluechip | f2 brings up a menu like the main menu |
| 03:48:02 | Bluechip | (proposed) |
| 03:48:38 | c0utta | brb - baby crying |
| 03:48:47 | Bluechip | NMI |
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| 03:50:46 | Sebulba02 | non-maskable interrupt? |
| 03:51:06 | c0utta | NMI ? |
| 03:51:06 | Bluechip | indeed |
| 03:51:06 | LinusN | fyi, i am working on new menu code for this purpose |
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| 04:03:11 | c0utta | i'm going to go, but i'll have a play over the next few weeks with keyboard mapping |
| 04:03:23 | Bluechip | cool - stay safe |
| 04:03:36 | c0utta | my needs are obviously simpler than everyone else's tho.... |
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| 04:04:01 | c0utta | i just mapped F3-Right to "remove from playlist". works perfectly |
| 04:04:05 | Bluechip | hmm, I'm not sure I have grasped the source of the problem yet |
| 04:04:25 | c0utta | for simple use (like mine) there isn't a problem. |
| 04:04:54 | Bluechip | I think we need a base to work from,so go4it :) |
| 04:04:58 | c0utta | more complicated use really highlights it tho... |
| 04:05:25 | c0utta | by the way, my JBR has been hanging a fair bit lately |
| 04:05:34 | Bluechip | betteries? |
| 04:05:40 | c0utta | only the last month - i wondered whether it was RLD |
| 04:05:48 | c0utta | batteries are fine - 90% |
| 04:06:06 | c0utta | gets near the end of track and then hangs - i suspect it's loading the next track |
| 04:06:22 | LinusN | is the red led lit? |
| 04:06:39 | c0utta | yes - it's sort of flashing |
| 04:06:55 | LinusN | then it isn't rld |
| 04:07:18 | c0utta | when i resume it does the same thing |
| 04:07:26 | LinusN | maybe a problem with the track, like a bug in the id3 code? |
| 04:07:49 | LinusN | do you shuffle? |
| 04:07:54 | c0utta | yes |
| 04:08:35 | LinusN | maybe it is just a track that makes rockbox freak out |
| 04:08:43 | LinusN | try to figure out which one |
| 04:09:08 | c0utta | since i'm shuffling i can't see what the next track is. |
| 04:09:37 | LinusN | with some effort, you can see it in the resume info |
| 04:10:03 | c0utta | using the magic shuffling formula ? |
| 04:10:31 | Bluechip | I like the shuffle algorithm |
| 04:10:39 | c0utta | i'll turn off shuffle and see what happens |
| 04:10:52 | c0utta | FF/RW work, but it just returns to the same point in the track. |
| 04:11:14 | LinusN | huh? |
| 04:11:29 | LinusN | long track? |
| 04:11:34 | LinusN | VBR? |
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| 04:12:04 | c0utta | neither |
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| 04:12:52 | c0utta | eg. hangs at 2:53/3:00. RW to 0:00/3:00 and it instantly returns to 2:53 |
| 04:13:14 | c0utta | FF to 3:00/3:00 and it instantly returns to 2:53 |
| 04:13:31 | c0utta | i can't skip track forward or backward tho.. |
| 04:13:49 | Bluechip | Linus, it is strict codeing standard to have ALL plugin code in a single.c, no .h's or anything? |
| 04:13:53 | LinusN | sure sounds like rld... |
| 04:14:29 | LinusN | Bluechip: should be ok, any special thoughts? |
| 04:14:41 | c0utta | JBR6 upgraded to Toshiba 60GB. worked fine up until a month ago. you may be onto something with ID3 tho. |
| 04:14:57 | c0utta | c-ya guys. going to watch the cricket |
| 04:15:02 | LinusN | cu |
| 04:15:14 | Bluechip | Linus: I just want to put all my graphics definitions in a seperate file for tidy code |
| 04:15:28 | LinusN | ah |
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| 04:15:52 | Bluechip | Linus: I did it with othelo, but they were all merged when it was plugin-ified |
| 04:15:57 | LinusN | the Makefile expects all plugins to be one file, else it doesn't know which files to link |
| 04:16:31 | LinusN | so it's technical rather than political |
| 04:16:36 | Bluechip | is one .c and one .h okay? |
| 04:16:50 | Bluechip | will updating the .h cause a recompile? |
| 04:17:13 | LinusN | not sure, try it |
| 04:17:21 | Bluechip | will do |
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| 05:06:09 | LinusN | goodnight! |
| 05:06:18 | Bluechip | gnite m8 |
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| 07:02:56 | midknight2k3 | hi a;; |
| 07:03:00 | midknight2k3 | all* |
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| 08:02:50 | | Join MiChAeLoL [0] (MiChAeLoL@c-24-12-216-51.client.comcast.net) |
| 08:02:57 | MiChAeLoL | lol whats with the bs on slashdot |
| 08:03:07 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 08:03:09 | midknight2k3 | hey ! |
| 08:03:11 | midknight2k3 | i remember you |
| 08:03:31 | MiChAeLoL | i remember you too |
| 08:03:36 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 08:03:45 | midknight2k3 | what about the slashdot "bs"? |
| 08:03:59 | MiChAeLoL | it playing video |
| 08:04:05 | midknight2k3 | it does |
| 08:04:07 | MiChAeLoL | at 60fps |
| 08:04:10 | midknight2k3 | whats your question? |
| 08:04:13 | midknight2k3 | 70FPS actually |
| 08:04:17 | MiChAeLoL | how so? |
| 08:04:21 | midknight2k3 | how so what |
| 08:04:26 | MiChAeLoL | does it do it |
| 08:04:29 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 08:04:36 | midknight2k3 | lcd blitting |
| 08:04:39 | midknight2k3 | is your archos around |
| 08:04:42 | MiChAeLoL | yea |
| 08:04:44 | MiChAeLoL | right here |
| 08:04:51 | midknight2k3 | get new rockbox |
| 08:04:54 | midknight2k3 | unzip to your box |
| 08:05:01 | MiChAeLoL | what format does it play? |
| 08:05:18 | * | MiChAeLoL is very suprized |
| 08:05:52 | midknight2k3 | .rvf |
| 08:05:55 | midknight2k3 | rockbox video file |
| 08:06:03 | midknight2k3 | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/doom.zip |
| 08:06:06 | midknight2k3 | get that |
| 08:06:06 | MiChAeLoL | are there tools to convert files to that? |
| 08:06:21 | midknight2k3 | yes, but they need to be 112*64 avi files first |
| 08:06:44 | MiChAeLoL | so i would have to crop an avi then |
| 08:06:51 | midknight2k3 | resize... |
| 08:06:56 | MiChAeLoL | so its 112*64 |
| 08:07:01 | MiChAeLoL | then convert it to .rvf |
| 08:07:01 | midknight2k3 | right. |
| 08:07:04 | midknight2k3 | right. |
| 08:07:06 | MiChAeLoL | any demo movies? |
| 08:07:11 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 08:07:13 | midknight2k3 | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/doom.zip |
| 08:07:20 | MiChAeLoL | what i just downloaded? |
| 08:07:24 | MiChAeLoL | ahhh on the rockbox |
| 08:07:24 | midknight2k3 | doom.zip |
| 08:07:27 | * | MiChAeLoL changes it |
| 08:07:31 | midknight2k3 | changes what |
| 08:07:36 | MiChAeLoL | the firmware |
| 08:07:36 | midknight2k3 | you want new rockbox too |
| 08:07:40 | MiChAeLoL | yea |
| 08:07:46 | midknight2k3 | and the file: |
| 08:07:47 | midknight2k3 | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/ |
| 08:07:49 | MiChAeLoL | ever get a decent text editor in it? |
| 08:07:51 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 08:07:51 | MiChAeLoL | got the file |
| 08:07:53 | midknight2k3 | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/doom.zip |
| 08:07:57 | midknight2k3 | got the doom thign? |
| 08:09:44 | MiChAeLoL | yep |
| 08:09:49 | MiChAeLoL | getting a newer rockbox |
| 08:09:49 | midknight2k3 | put to your box |
| 08:09:52 | MiChAeLoL | 2.1? |
| 08:09:56 | midknight2k3 | newer |
| 08:09:58 | midknight2k3 | daily build |
| 08:09:59 | midknight2k3 | full |
| 08:10:31 | MiChAeLoL | yep |
| 08:10:32 | MiChAeLoL | getting it |
| 08:10:49 | MiChAeLoL | did they get the mp3 chip details or somethign then |
| 08:10:55 | MiChAeLoL | like how did they do this |
| 08:11:01 | MiChAeLoL | cause 70fps is pretty fast |
| 08:11:01 | midknight2k3 | LCD blitting |
| 08:11:09 | midknight2k3 | super fast flicking of the pixels |
| 08:11:12 | midknight2k3 | GRAYSCALE |
| 08:11:12 | MiChAeLoL | ic |
| 08:11:27 | MiChAeLoL | yea but like what decodes it |
| 08:11:33 | midknight2k3 | its uncompressed |
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| 08:14:29 | MiChAeLo1 | heh computer randomly restarts when i plug in the usb sometimes |
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| 08:14:35 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 08:14:53 | MiChAeLoL | think its cause of my shittie 7 dollar usb 2.0 card i got for the rockbox |
| 08:15:16 | MiChAeLoL | so about how big are .rvf files |
| 08:15:26 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
| 08:15:29 | MiChAeLoL | like 1 hr of video = ? |
| 08:15:29 | midknight2k3 | like.. |
| 08:15:38 | MiChAeLoL | and is there sound |
| 08:15:41 | midknight2k3 | i know about 1 min = 1.5MB |
| 08:15:43 | midknight2k3 | no sound yet |
| 08:15:44 | MiChAeLoL | cool |
| 08:15:47 | midknight2k3 | :( |
| 08:15:48 | midknight2k3 | soon |
| 08:15:50 | midknight2k3 | i think |
| 08:15:53 | MiChAeLoL | there will be tho right? |
| 08:15:55 | MiChAeLoL | nice |
| 08:16:04 | midknight2k3 | soon yes i believe |
| 08:16:05 | MiChAeLoL | does it use a lot of the ram? |
| 08:16:11 | midknight2k3 | its a plugin |
| 08:16:15 | MiChAeLoL | or not cuase of the new plugin system... |
| 08:16:16 | MiChAeLoL | yea |
| 08:16:19 | MiChAeLoL | forgot about that |
| 08:17:40 | MiChAeLoL | ahhh computer acting screwy again |
| 08:28:32 | MiChAeLoL | wow thats pretty sweet |
| 08:29:27 | midknight2k3 | pput up contrast |
| 08:29:30 | midknight2k3 | looks better |
| 08:32:26 | MiChAeLoL | what contrast setting you recomend? |
| 08:32:40 | midknight2k3 | whats yours normally |
| 08:32:44 | midknight2k3 | like 30-32? |
| 08:33:03 | MiChAeLoL | like 50 |
| 08:33:07 | midknight2k3 | oh fmr |
| 08:33:11 | MiChAeLoL | yep |
| 08:33:16 | midknight2k3 | put it to about 58 |
| 08:33:29 | MiChAeLoL | put it to 60 and it looks pretty sweet |
| 08:33:45 | MiChAeLoL | so what programs you recomend to convert movies to .rvf format |
| 08:33:47 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 08:33:52 | midknight2k3 | theres only one |
| 08:33:56 | midknight2k3 | .rvf is rockbox video file |
| 08:34:25 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 08:34:29 | midknight2k3 | jorgs tools |
| 08:36:29 | MiChAeLoL | does that do it right from avi to .rvf or do i have to convert it first |
| 08:36:41 | midknight2k3 | avi to yuv, then yuv to rvf |
| 08:36:47 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 08:36:48 | midknight2k3 | its at the mailing list |
| 08:36:52 | midknight2k3 | you need to resize it tho |
| 08:36:57 | MiChAeLoL | yea |
| 08:37:02 | MiChAeLoL | so i resize the avi first |
| 08:37:12 | midknight2k3 | then use jorgs tools from command prompt |
| 08:37:16 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 08:37:20 | MiChAeLoL | where do i download it |
| 08:37:26 | midknight2k3 | its at the mailing list |
| 08:37:30 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 08:37:43 | midknight2k3 | go to december 2003 its like "how to do your own .rvf file" |
| 08:41:59 | MiChAeLoL | got it i think |
| 08:41:59 | MiChAeLoL | yea |
| 08:42:33 | MiChAeLoL | what do you use to make 1. make a .AVI file with 112*64 resolution |
| 08:42:50 | midknight2k3 | i use Vegas 4 |
| 08:43:00 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 08:43:05 | MiChAeLoL | have that on here somewhere |
| 08:43:12 | MiChAeLoL | ah yes here it is |
| 08:43:17 | MiChAeLoL | build 115 :D |
| 08:43:47 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 08:43:48 | midknight2k3 | you rock |
| 08:43:53 | midknight2k3 | just make a video |
| 08:43:55 | midknight2k3 | render as |
| 08:44:03 | midknight2k3 | get your video ready |
| 08:44:10 | midknight2k3 | ill help after its ready to be rendered |
| 08:44:27 | MiChAeLoL | thanks |
| 08:44:33 | * | MiChAeLoL renders a kitejumping video |
| 08:44:41 | midknight2k3 | dont yet |
| 08:44:46 | midknight2k3 | you need to set settings first |
| 08:45:14 | MiChAeLoL | didnt yet |
| 08:46:21 | MiChAeLoL | what format should i make the audio? |
| 08:46:43 | midknight2k3 | just uncheck "include audio" if youre at the render settings |
| 08:46:55 | MiChAeLoL | ok |
| 08:47:53 | * | MiChAeLoL renders it |
| 08:48:11 | MiChAeLoL | lol going slow as hell |
| 08:48:21 | midknight2k3 | did you set the right size |
| 08:48:38 | MiChAeLoL | from 640x480 to 112x64 |
| 08:48:54 | MiChAeLoL | like .7 fps |
| 08:49:05 | * | MiChAeLoL doesnt feel like waiting a half an hour |
| 08:49:08 | MiChAeLoL | there has to be a faster way |
| 08:49:17 | MiChAeLoL | wonder if virtual dub can do it |
| 08:49:27 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 08:49:31 | midknight2k3 | there is faster way |
| 08:49:34 | midknight2k3 | if you woulda listened |
| 08:49:39 | midknight2k3 | go back to the render settings |
| 08:49:55 | MiChAeLoL | i did uncheck audio |
| 08:50:04 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 08:50:08 | midknight2k3 | more ways |
| 08:50:36 | midknight2k3 | change "video rendering quality" to "draft" |
| 08:50:40 | MiChAeLoL | ahhh ok |
| 08:50:44 | midknight2k3 | or preview |
| 08:50:47 | midknight2k3 | draft id say |
| 08:51:42 | MiChAeLoL | now thats fast |
| 08:52:01 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 08:52:02 | MiChAeLoL | will it play a 30fps at 30 fps or at 70fps |
| 08:52:09 | midknight2k3 | 70 |
| 08:52:13 | midknight2k3 | or so |
| 08:58:38 | MiChAeLoL | there done |
| 08:58:48 | MiChAeLoL | now to plug my mp3 player back in |
| 08:58:53 | midknight2k3 | then use the tools as instructed |
| 08:58:55 | MiChAeLoL | will probably crash my computer |
| 08:58:56 | MiChAeLoL | tho |
| 08:58:58 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 08:59:05 | MiChAeLoL | want it lol? |
| 08:59:12 | MiChAeLoL | its a kitejumping movie |
| 08:59:18 | midknight2k3 | hrm |
| 08:59:21 | midknight2k3 | why not lol |
| 08:59:26 | midknight2k3 | ill check it out tomorrow |
| 08:59:29 | MiChAeLoL | 3mb |
| 08:59:35 | midknight2k3 | sure |
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| 09:00:56 | MiChAeLoL | while gunna plug in my mp3 player hopefully it wont crash the computer but odds are it will |
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| 09:03:52 | MiChAeLo1 | wow my computer sucks |
| 09:03:57 | | Nick MiChAeLo1 is now known as MiChAeLoL (MiChAeLoL@c-24-12-216-51.client.comcast.net) |
| 09:04:04 | MiChAeLoL | crashes everytime i plug in a usb device |
| 09:20:24 | MiChAeLoL | while im amazed |
| 09:20:31 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 09:21:11 | MiChAeLoL | with the movie playback |
| 09:21:21 | MiChAeLoL | will be a lot cooler when it gets sound too |
| 09:21:25 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 09:21:28 | MiChAeLoL | cause the sound will be good quality |
| 09:21:32 | MiChAeLoL | mp3 :D |
| 09:21:34 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 09:21:35 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 09:21:50 | MiChAeLoL | then someone will have to write a program or something to do it all at once |
| 09:22:00 | MiChAeLoL | want a kitejumping video lol |
| 09:22:24 | midknight2k3 | send it |
| 09:22:40 | MiChAeLoL | thats the best one out of the 3 movies i made |
| 09:22:53 | midknight2k3 | lool |
| 09:23:09 | MiChAeLoL | cause ya can read the text at the end |
| 09:23:20 | midknight2k3 | nm |
| 09:23:29 | MiChAeLoL | dcc ignore settings messed up? |
| 09:24:27 | MiChAeLoL | while im going to sleep |
| 09:24:35 | MiChAeLoL | be back later sometime or somethin |
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| 09:24:59 | midknight2k3 | nite |
| 09:25:09 | midknight2k3 | oops |
| 09:25:09 | midknight2k3 | lol |
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| 12:56:27 | Laurent_ | hi |
| 12:56:30 | kurzhaarrocker | Is it raining in france, too? |
| 12:56:49 | Laurent_ | no, but it could almost ;) |
| 12:57:16 | Laurent_ | where do you live in germany ? |
| 12:57:28 | kurzhaarrocker | Il pleut, les rues sont gris et triste. Probably full of numerous mistakes, but that was one of the lessons in my french book. |
| 12:57:34 | kurzhaarrocker | I'm from Dortmund |
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| 13:04:45 | kurzhaarrocker | Where from france are you? |
| 13:07:02 | Laurent_ | (sorry for the delay, I was reading my email) |
| 13:07:20 | Laurent_ | I'm from Lyon, I went to Salzkotten once |
| 13:07:46 | Laurent_ | hey, apart from "grises" and "tristes" your sentence is ok |
| 13:08:27 | Laurent_ | Ich can ein bisschen deutsch, aber ich ""lack"" "vocabular" ;) |
| 13:08:29 | kurzhaarrocker | :) I've been in Lyon once. It was 1987, I think. |
| 13:09:09 | kurzhaarrocker | "Ich kann ein bißchen Deutsch, aber mir fehlt es an Vokabular." |
| 13:09:40 | Laurent_ | I wonder if I went to Dortmund, if it's not very far from Salzkotten then I did but I have a very bad memory of such things ;) |
| 13:10:29 | Laurent_ | no sz on my keyboard ;) and right I need to get german sentences articulations back in my mind ;) |
| 13:12:24 | kurzhaarrocker | I was shocked how miserable my french was, when I was on vacation last year. I tended to mix it up with dutch. I have no idea, why |
| 13:12:36 | kurzhaarrocker | (Salzkotten is ~100 km from here) |
| 13:12:59 | Laurent_ | hehe, I can imagine the frenchs looking at you with huge eyes :) |
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| 13:13:40 | Laurent_ | ok, then I went to Dortmund, is the mayor building a baroc one ? |
| 13:13:45 | Laurent_ | "baroc" |
| 13:13:50 | Laurent_ | baroque ? |
| 13:14:18 | kurzhaarrocker | no, not really. |
| 13:14:26 | * | kurzhaarrocker tries to recall how it looks like |
| 13:14:45 | Laurent_ | we went to other towns nearby too, so i might be mixing them |
| 13:15:31 | kurzhaarrocker | In Dortmund there are hardly any really old buildings due to destruction in war. |
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| 13:15:33 | Laurent_ | the only thing I'm sure of is that I usually love german towns and architecture (the ones with old buildings and houses, not modern ones) |
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| 13:15:55 | quelsaruk | hej |
| 13:15:56 | kurzhaarrocker | quelsaruk! It's been a while! |
| 13:16:00 | Laurent_ | ah, ok, so it's not Dortmund, probably another big town in the vicinity |
| 13:16:12 | Laurent_ | hi Sebulba02 |
| 13:16:15 | kurzhaarrocker | quel: how are your goat? |
| 13:16:16 | quelsaruk | langhaarocker??? |
| 13:16:22 | quelsaruk | quite well |
| 13:16:27 | quelsaruk | i went to see apocalytpica |
| 13:16:32 | quelsaruk | they are cool indeed!! |
| 13:16:33 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 13:16:42 | quelsaruk | merry christmas to all |
| 13:17:00 | quelsaruk | i have to go |
| 13:17:05 | quelsaruk | see you another day! |
| 13:17:08 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 13:17:29 | quelsaruk | kurzhaarrocker, it's good to see you alive again |
| 13:17:31 | kurzhaarrocker | Laurent: Maybe Parderborn. |
| 13:17:35 | quelsaruk | we'll talk another day |
| 13:17:36 | quelsaruk | cu! |
| 13:17:40 | quelsaruk | bbl |
| 13:17:41 | kurzhaarrocker | cu |
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| 13:19:39 | Laurent_ | paderborn that's it ! |
| 13:20:07 | Laurent_ | how could i forget this |
| 13:20:33 | kurzhaarrocker | It's easy to forget things :( |
| 13:23:01 | Sebulba02 | sup Laurent_? |
| 13:23:07 | Laurent_ | sup ? |
| 13:23:20 | Sebulba02 | Whats up? Hows it going? |
| 13:23:50 | Laurent_ | i'm up, late and tired but not much more ;) |
| 13:23:57 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 13:24:35 | Laurent_ | I was awaiting an answer from telechips but I remembered it's saturday :( |
| 13:24:46 | Laurent_ | this is not my week :) |
| 13:24:57 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 13:25:08 | Sebulba02 | They'll get back to you.. |
| 13:25:40 | Sebulba02 | Could be next year though, *shrugs* |
| 13:25:56 | Laurent_ | could be :) |
| 13:30:29 | * | Sebulba02 .oO( what can I do today to be "productive".. ) |
| 13:30:50 | kurzhaarrocker | implement looping in mpeg.c |
| 13:31:43 | Sebulba02 | Nah.. |
| 13:32:49 | Sebulba02 | Theres always the timezones, but that became a major pain in the @$$ last night. |
| 13:33:10 | Laurent_ | I did not understand your problem with them ? could you explain it again ? |
| 13:33:43 | Sebulba02 | I just don't get how to make them display and how it remembers which one is selected. |
| 13:38:52 | kurzhaarrocker | Is that something the rtc handles itself? |
| 13:40:42 | Sebulba02 | No. |
| 13:41:54 | Sebulba02 | The clock, as far as I know, only handles the actual time. Not the date or timezones I'm trying to implement. |
| 13:45:01 | Sebulba02 | my bad, it does handle all that |
| 13:45:19 | Sebulba02 | except the timezone |
| 13:45:25 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 13:52:13 | Laurent_ | back |
| 13:52:33 | Sebulba02 | I should just kill what little I've done now. |
| 13:53:50 | kurzhaarrocker | Yeah! I've been a desillusioning smartass again! :-[ |
| 13:54:03 | Laurent_ | the way linux does it is set the hardware clock to GMT then use the timezone to convert to local time, thus you have two input variables to set -> GMT time, local timezone and have rockbox display local time from zone too |
| 13:54:18 | Laurent_ | zone too = those too (remember, this is not my week) |
| 13:54:50 | Laurent_ | i don't know if i'm helpful here |
| 13:55:20 | Sebulba02 | Yeah, but I think the RTC is set to whatever time the user puts in, not offset each query of the chip. |
| 13:55:52 | Sebulba02 | I'd have to literally rewrite the clock code, which I sure don't want to do. |
| 13:56:52 | Laurent_ | i don't think you'd need to rewrite the clock code, just the part that sets it and reads it and take local zone into account for each |
| 13:57:32 | Laurent_ | something like : read_clock() { read hardware clock, get local time zone offset, substract it, return new clock } |
| 13:57:39 | kurzhaarrocker | Laurent: Is the line in of the gmini wired manually, too? |
| 13:57:40 | Sebulba02 | Which is just about all of it.. |
| 13:57:55 | Laurent_ | write_clock() { add local zone offset, store new clock } |
| 13:58:06 | Laurent_ | the line ? |
| 13:58:17 | kurzhaarrocker | the line input jack |
| 13:58:23 | Laurent_ | let me check this |
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| 14:00:15 | * | Laurent_ scratches his gmini back cover and goes seeking a new screwdriver |
| 14:00:58 | kurzhaarrocker | If I ask a few more questions like that I'll distroy Laurents gmini... |
| 14:04:36 | Laurent_ | hum, that's even more stupid of me because it can be answered by looking at one of the pictures I made :) |
| 14:05:10 | kurzhaarrocker | Nah, that would be a second hand experience only |
| 14:05:19 | Laurent_ | http://lgiroud.chez.tiscali.fr/photos/IMG_0182.JPG |
| 14:05:37 | Laurent_ | line in connector is the grey plastic one at the right top |
| 14:06:55 | kurzhaarrocker | I see. No flying wires any more. |
| 14:08:39 | kurzhaarrocker | Is that really the line in? To me it looks like a jack whith 1/4"" plug and 4 additional contacts. Something which often is used for headphone + remote. |
| 14:08:58 | Laurent_ | there still are one or two of them -> yellow one and black one |
| 14:10:01 | kurzhaarrocker | Yes, but it would be really stupid to wire the line in manually and _not_ doing it directly to the input jack. |
| 14:10:12 | Laurent_ | it's a multipurpose jack, there are four contacts on it, plus there are side plugs to each side of it, it can do av out, spdif out, line in, line out, and so on |
| 14:10:27 | kurzhaarrocker | ok |
| 14:10:44 | Laurent_ | I think you can see it on archos website |
| 14:10:55 | kurzhaarrocker | No need, I can imagine. |
| 14:11:21 | Laurent_ | http://www.archos.com/img/products/290x230/audio_plugin_gmini.jpg |
| 14:14:27 | * | kurzhaarrocker needs food |
| 14:14:29 | kurzhaarrocker | cu |
| 14:16:07 | Laurent_ | gutten apetit ;) |
| 14:26:51 | Sebulba02 | hmm |
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| 14:56:35 | Sebulba02 | Anyone here who is on the mailing list? |
| 14:57:11 | Laurent_ | i am |
| 14:57:27 | Sebulba02 | Do you get it in bulk? |
| 14:59:28 | Laurent_ | no, mail by mail |
| 14:59:47 | Sebulba02 | grr |
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| 15:00:29 | Sebulba02 | I think I'm going to write the list admin. |
| 15:03:45 | Sebulba02 | Or maybe I just can't read. |
| 15:04:17 | Laurent_ | wait, do you mean that I subscribed to digest or that all mails arrive at the same moment ? |
| 15:05:23 | Sebulba02 | Do all your mails arrive at the same time? |
| 15:05:37 | Laurent_ | I was wondering about it this morning |
| 15:05:56 | Laurent_ | morning being noon in fact |
| 15:06:05 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 15:06:41 | Sebulba02 | Like I can look in the archive and see stuff I've not gotten, but will probably get at like 11p tonight. |
| 15:07:11 | Sebulba02 | & I noticed in the headers it was set to Bulk. |
| 15:07:20 | Sebulba02 | Instead of Digest, I think. |
| 15:07:56 | Laurent_ | i'm checking |
| 15:08:44 | Sebulba02 | Thanks |
| 15:10:25 | Laurent_ | no, it seems I'm getting them when they arrive |
| 15:11:10 | Sebulba02 | Hmm, don't suppose you know where the mailman is.. |
| 15:11:21 | Laurent_ | I'm having this header field : "precedence: bulk" but I don't think it's related |
| 15:11:30 | Sebulba02 | I see. |
| 15:11:44 | Laurent_ | I don't know but it can be found easily |
| 15:12:01 | Laurent_ | sender: owner-rockbox@cool.haxx.se |
| 15:12:15 | Sebulba02 | Search website for 'mailman' |
| 15:12:53 | Sebulba02 | Or not. |
| 15:13:31 | Laurent_ | ah, no idea, have you searched on the web site ? |
| 15:14:05 | Sebulba02 | Thats what I'm doing. |
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| 15:29:51 | Sebulba02 | hmm, theres always the news:// list. |
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| 15:31:20 | Laurent_ | I guess it's outdated |
| 15:32:15 | Sebulba02 | No, its just the archive. |
| 15:33:25 | Sebulba02 | Guess I could query the help. |
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| 15:57:05 | lilolim3234 | hi |
| 15:57:13 | Sebulba02 | 'morning. |
| 15:57:25 | Laurent_ | hi |
| 15:57:41 | lilolim3234 | (sorry for my bad english *g*) -> i'm having only a short question |
| 15:58:17 | lilolim3234 | where can i find a precompiled rockbox-version compressed with UCL ? |
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| 16:00:40 | Sebulba02 | Beats me. I assume that has to do with flashing & I thought rockbox came with the tools to do that. |
| 16:01:24 | lilolim3234 | in the past it was possible to download it on rockbox.haxx.se in the daily build-section |
| 16:02:07 | lilolim3234 | but it disappeared commentless |
| 16:03:18 | Sebulba02 | Laurent_ is probably better qualified to answer that than I am. |
| 16:03:24 | Laurent_ | huh ? |
| 16:03:27 | lilolim3234 | :) |
| 16:03:37 | Laurent_ | i swear i'm not :) |
| 16:03:54 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 16:03:59 | Sebulba02 | Well, dunno then. |
| 16:04:10 | lilolim3234 | okay ... then i have to descrable the ajz-version and pack it ... "Oh weia" |
| 16:04:18 | Laurent_ | i wish i could help but i'm not knowledeable enough yet as far as rockbox installation |
| 16:04:22 | Laurent_ | is concerned |
| 16:04:58 | lilolim3234 | okay ... no prob :) ... |
| 16:05:02 | Sebulba02 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html , looks like you need to build it yourself. |
| 16:06:06 | Sebulba02 | Never done it myself though, so I dunno. |
| 16:06:08 | lilolim3234 | i read this page ... and my problem is i have a windows-system and my c++ compiler is a little bit dummy |
| 16:06:57 | Sebulba02 | heh, hmm. Well. |
| 16:07:12 | lilolim3234 | it took up to 1 hour til' i could compile the UCL-compressor |
| 16:08:05 | Sebulba02 | There is the alpha or beta win32 build environmenet. |
| 16:08:19 | lilolim3234 | okay ... then i'll try to compile rockbox |
| 16:08:43 | Sebulba02 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/1200.shtml |
| 16:10:07 | lilolim3234 | this is a patch for the simulator ... i only need [or i hope so] descramble.exe :) |
| 16:10:30 | * | Sebulba02 shrugs |
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| 16:11:05 | Sebulba02 | I don't use win32 to write code, so I dunno. |
| 16:11:33 | * | lilolim3234 is searching the word "shrugs" in the dictonary :) |
| 16:12:00 | diddystar5 | i do |
| 16:12:14 | lilolim3234 | okay ... then i'm going to do some try and error :) ... |
| 16:12:23 | lilolim3234 | oh ... maybe you can help me ... |
| 16:12:55 | lilolim3234 | i'm searching a precompiled Version from rockbox compressed in UCL or a way to do this package |
| 16:12:59 | lilolim3234 | without compiling |
| 16:13:39 | diddystar5 | all you want is a version of rockbox UCL compressed? |
| 16:14:00 | lilolim3234 | yes ... in the past you could download it from rockbox.haxx.se |
| 16:14:07 | diddystar5 | ohh |
| 16:14:11 | diddystar5 | one sec |
| 16:14:13 | diddystar5 | let me look |
| 16:14:50 | diddystar5 | heh that is weord |
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| 16:14:53 | diddystar5 | (weird |
| 16:15:14 | diddystar5 | bye lilolim3234! |
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| 16:15:27 | lil_again | re ... :) |
| 16:15:28 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 16:15:39 | lil_again | i hate Alt+F4 :) |
| 16:15:47 | lil_again | i've found it |
| 16:16:08 | diddystar5 | found what? |
| 16:16:12 | lil_again | they should say that it is in the ZIP-Package from the daily build :) |
| 16:16:17 | lil_again | rockbox.ucl |
| 16:16:20 | diddystar5 | ohh |
| 16:16:26 | diddystar5 | good |
| 16:16:45 | lil_again | oh my god ... i'm dumb like a brick :) |
| 16:16:49 | diddystar5 | i should compile a new build, havent done it in awhile |
| 16:17:09 | Sebulba02 | Nothing has changed in the past few days. |
| 16:17:26 | diddystar5 | i know, but my build is a few weeks old |
| 16:17:42 | Sebulba02 | Ah. |
| 16:17:54 | lil_again | mine is from october |
| 16:18:36 | lil_again | is the reason for "red led death"-bug found ? |
| 16:18:42 | diddystar5 | i still need to work on my really good version of rockbox, i told a few people it would be done a few days ago, but ive been lazy |
| 16:19:16 | lil_again | what did you changed ? |
| 16:19:35 | diddystar5 | lil_again: lots of things |
| 16:20:27 | diddystar5 | its just not near about done |
| 16:21:08 | diddystar5 | it will be a long list of changes |
| 16:22:38 | lil_again | a releasedate like 1.1.2004 would be nice ;) |
| 16:23:00 | diddystar5 | i dont really know much about the led death, but there have been some changes that could help it get fixed |
| 16:23:16 | diddystar5 | heh i should try for that :) |
| 16:23:41 | lil_again | i hope so ... i have 7 crashes per day (everytime i walk) |
| 16:23:59 | Sebulba02 | That sucks. |
| 16:24:14 | diddystar5 | wow |
| 16:24:21 | diddystar5 | i have never had it happen to me |
| 16:25:04 | lil_again | my pocket is filled with polystyrol ... this made it better |
| 16:27:48 | lil_again | okay i have to go now ... thanks for all your help |
| 16:28:02 | lil_again | happy new year / einen guten Rutsch |
| 16:28:05 | lil_again | cya |
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| 16:30:06 | Sebulba02 | 'doh |
| 16:58:22 | diddystar5 | pfavr: awake? |
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| 17:14:27 | Laurent_ | http://altair.snu.ac.kr/~smoon/ : this guy has developped gcc support for the gmini's CPU |
| 17:15:18 | Sebulba02 | Thats a good start. |
| 17:15:49 | Laurent_ | yup, I just hope Samsung allows it to be made public, this does not seem to be the case |
| 17:15:54 | diddystar5 | what cpu is in it? |
| 17:16:40 | Laurent_ | a TCC370 (http://www.telechips.com/product/product_mp3_tcc730.htm), it seems to be a derivate of the Samsung CalmRisc 16 series |
| 17:17:07 | Laurent_ | (http://www4.ncsu.edu:8030/~abdudani/ecos/docs/calmrisc16.html) |
| 17:17:35 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 17:18:31 | Laurent_ | not easy to find to say the least |
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| 17:45:24 | pfavr | diddystar5: hi |
| 17:48:29 | diddystar5 | pfavr: i got that book you were talking aobut, and i have read some of it |
| 17:48:41 | diddystar5 | its quite good |
| 17:49:04 | pfavr | diddystar5: I'm happy to hear that:-) |
| 17:49:51 | pfavr | diddystar5: how about the VU-meter? Did you finish the dB scale? |
| 17:50:21 | diddystar5 | pfavr: umm no |
| 17:50:34 | diddystar5 | pfavr: couldnt really figure it out |
| 17:50:46 | pfavr | diddystar5: the log function? |
| 17:51:15 | pfavr | diddystar5: just wondering: maybe there is a log function already somewhere in rockbox source |
| 17:51:19 | diddystar5 | pfavr: well yeah |
| 17:52:11 | diddystar5 | pfavr: even if i get code for log, i dunno what to log |
| 17:53:44 | pfavr | diddystar5: I think you're almost there. The only thing missing is converting to dB using the log function |
| 17:54:25 | pfavr | diddystar5: so you take the log() of the amplitude you're using already for drawing |
| 17:55:00 | diddystar5 | you mean (left/right)_needle_top_x? |
| 17:55:17 | pfavr | yes, I think so |
| 17:55:30 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 17:55:36 | pfavr | I'll be back later. |
| 17:56:04 | diddystar5 | ook see you later |
| 17:59:15 | * | diddystar5 is porting goldmember to rockbox video |
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| 18:06:58 | Laurent_ | :) |
| 18:07:06 | Laurent_ | academic work for sure ;) |
| 18:07:42 | Sebulba02 | heh |
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| 18:25:59 | kurzhaarrocker | c0utta: are you here? |
| 18:26:38 | diddystar5 | its c0utta|AFK |
| 18:26:49 | diddystar5 | :) |
| 18:26:57 | kurzhaarrocker | c0utta|AFK: are you here? |
| 18:27:32 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 18:27:40 | diddystar5 | dont you know how to use tab completetion? |
| 18:28:01 | diddystar5 | try it type c0 then <tab> |
| 18:28:10 | * | kurzhaarrocker jumps up in astonishment! |
| 18:28:22 | kurzhaarrocker | Never thought that trillian might have that. |
| 18:28:28 | Laurent_ | gaim has it too |
| 18:28:48 | diddystar5 | lots of things have it |
| 18:29:02 | kurzhaarrocker | I just read he's about to do customizable config menus / keys |
| 18:29:10 | Laurent_ | shameless ad : gaim is open source, multiprotocol, works on win32 and linux |
| 18:29:37 | Laurent_ | (and free as in beer and as in liberty) |
| 18:29:59 | kurzhaarrocker | I'm not sure wether trillian is open source, but the rest applies to trillian, too. |
| 18:31:11 | kurzhaarrocker | I have LOADS of code that I once wrote for user assignable key schemes |
| 18:31:30 | kurzhaarrocker | I just never completed the task. |
| 18:32:32 | Laurent_ | trillian is not open source, there's a free version but it's not updated anymore |
| 18:33:31 | pfavr | ib |
| 18:33:37 | Laurent_ | god, I feel dumb when reading such resume : http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~sycho/resume |
| 18:34:33 | pfavr | happens to me all the time |
| 18:34:38 | pfavr | :-) |
| 18:34:46 | Laurent_ | :) |
| 18:34:58 | kurzhaarrocker | I feel dumb when I see someone reading |
| 18:35:34 | kurzhaarrocker | especially when he doesn't even move his lips while doing so! |
| 18:36:24 | Laurent_ | yup, there's always someone more skillfull than we are |
| 18:38:19 | pfavr | (maybe it is just that each of us have different skillsets) |
| 18:39:13 | kurzhaarrocker | what do you do with a set of lousy skills? |
| 18:39:48 | Sebulba02 | Apply them to open source and improve upon them? :) |
| 18:41:51 | kurzhaarrocker | Sounds like a hard way. |
| 18:42:10 | pfavr | doesn't matter if it is fun also?-) |
| 18:43:00 | kurzhaarrocker | I think I'll take the easy way right now and enter a nice hot bath tub. |
| 18:43:15 | pfavr | enjoy! |
| 18:43:26 | kurzhaarrocker | Does anybody know a supplier of waterproof notebooks? |
| 18:43:43 | pfavr | saw one once... could stand the dishwasher |
| 18:44:02 | kurzhaarrocker | I prefer the bath tub. See you |
| 18:45:41 | pfavr | diddystar5: still here? |
| 18:46:14 | Laurent_ | Sebulba02: good suggestion |
| 18:46:26 | diddystar5 | pfavr: yep |
| 18:47:22 | pfavr | diddystar5: porting goldmember? what is that? |
| 18:47:36 | diddystar5 | pfavr: a movie |
| 18:48:11 | Sebulba02 | Laurent_: I thought so. |
| 18:48:12 | pfavr | diddystar5: ok, I haven't yet tried playing video |
| 18:48:55 | diddystar5 | pfavr: you should, its really cool, or atleast for a monochrome screen |
| 18:49:11 | diddystar5 | it really looks greyscale |
| 18:49:29 | diddystar5 | i get around 70.12 fps |
| 18:49:32 | pfavr | ok, but only have 700mb left on my drive |
| 18:50:01 | pfavr | any of you have a recorder 20? |
| 18:50:02 | diddystar5 | pfavr: the doom video is only 7mb |
| 18:50:06 | * | Laurent_ is freezing |
| 18:50:10 | diddystar5 | i do |
| 18:50:16 | diddystar5 | what do you have pfavr? |
| 18:50:23 | pfavr | recorder 20 also |
| 18:50:36 | diddystar5 | ohh |
| 18:50:49 | pfavr | have you tried copying from it using usb for a longer period of time? |
| 18:51:07 | pfavr | (mine runs empty on the batteries even though I leave the charger connected) |
| 18:51:39 | diddystar5 | for about 4-5 hours, but it was on charger |
| 18:51:54 | pfavr | I only have usb1.1 |
| 18:52:11 | diddystar5 | so do i |
| 18:52:16 | Laurent_ | I think it's going to be very hard to get CPU specs for the gmini |
| 18:52:34 | Laurent_ | it seems to be completely locked by samsung |
| 18:52:48 | pfavr | so it takes some time to copy everything... the last two times I tried the battery ran out before completion |
| 18:53:21 | diddystar5 | pfavr: do it in chunks, copy a few folders at a time |
| 18:53:56 | pfavr | yes, I could do that |
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| 18:54:42 | * | Laurent_ realizes that he hasn't eaten for 6 hours |
| 18:54:46 | pfavr | But I think the problem has to do with the charging not starting under certain circumstances while in the USB mode |
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| 18:55:06 | diddystar5 | pfavr: maybe so |
| 18:55:21 | pfavr | I think it starts the first time... then stops when it is full... then never starts again |
| 18:55:21 | diddystar5 | pfavr: just let it sit a few minutes before starting usb |
| 18:57:12 | pfavr | diddystar5: have you lost interest in the VU-meter? |
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| 18:58:18 | diddystar5 | pfavr: no, just cant figure it out |
| 18:58:48 | Sebulba02 | well crap, power went out |
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| 19:07:41 | diddystar5 | pfavr: if im to log (left/right)_needle_top_x, then log needd to be base 10 |
| 19:10:48 | pfavr | diddystar5: I dont think so |
| 19:11:13 | pfavr | diddystar5: it will just be a scale factor |
| 19:11:22 | pfavr | (iirc) |
| 19:12:51 | diddystar5 | uhh ok |
| 19:14:31 | pfavr | diddystar5: I'm trying to find the source code for the "normal" vu-meter (the bargraph on the play screen)... |
| 19:15:12 | diddystar5 | the peakmeter? |
| 19:15:21 | diddystar5 | its in apps/recorder/peakmeter.c |
| 19:15:40 | pfavr | thanks |
| 19:15:53 | diddystar5 | that would be a form of a digital vu meter |
| 19:17:48 | diddystar5 | i have been looking at that code myself |
| 19:18:07 | diddystar5 | but i dont know how to make it work on my code |
| 19:18:57 | diddystar5 | ohh boy! i just had an idea |
| 19:20:19 | diddystar5 | if i just set up a tabel of values, static unsigned char table[]={ }, and have them called by left-right_needle-top_x, i want need a log! |
| 19:20:33 | diddystar5 | just have the table |
| 19:20:43 | diddystar5 | that might even work faster than log |
| 19:20:49 | pfavr | yes |
| 19:20:57 | diddystar5 | i can do that |
| 19:21:05 | diddystar5 | ill work on it in a bit |
| 19:21:09 | diddystar5 | thats so easy :) |
| 19:22:13 | diddystar5 | ohh, and i could use the same kinda thing to make the v value change |
| 19:22:18 | pfavr | If you want you can take a look at the calc_db() function |
| 19:22:21 | diddystar5 | *y value |
| 19:22:41 | diddystar5 | i dod look at calc_dB() |
| 19:23:04 | diddystar5 | *did |
| 19:23:44 | pfavr | I think you could use this function directly |
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| 19:25:36 | diddystar5 | i think the tables of values would be simpler, and faster |
| 19:26:38 | diddystar5 | i also wonder if my vu meter can use the new lcd_blit function to improve performance |
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| 19:27:18 | pfavr | diddystar5: yes, you could even use grayscale to make a smooth antialised needle! |
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| 19:28:15 | diddystar5 | i dont know how i would do it, but i want to make a sort of delay, like in the "homeboy software analouge vu meters" plugin for winamp |
| 19:28:15 | pfavr | diddystar5: I believe the calc_db function is probably quite optimal |
| 19:29:00 | pfavr | diddystar5: delay? you mean so the needle only slowly moves backwards? |
| 19:29:43 | diddystar5 | pfavr: cant describe it well, but it adds sort of as delay that makes the needle move much smoother |
| 19:31:06 | pfavr | diddystar5: you could try with a simple filter: just make the current position equal to the last position plus the new value divided by two |
| 19:31:24 | diddystar5 | pfavr: are you on windows? |
| 19:31:32 | diddystar5 | pfavr: good idea! |
| 19:31:54 | pfavr | diddystar5: e.g.: y=(lasty + newy)/2; lasty=y; |
| 19:32:13 | pfavr | diddystar5: no(!) what makes you think that? |
| 19:32:22 | diddystar5 | :) neat wording |
| 19:32:55 | pfavr | diddystar5: if you need a slower decay, just do: y=(7*lasty + newy)/8 |
| 19:33:24 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 19:34:00 | pfavr | diddystar5: but I really think you should stick with the calc_db function |
| 19:34:05 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 19:35:04 | pfavr | diddystar5: then concentrate on making nice graphics. If it later shows that the calc_db function can be further optimized, that could be used for the peakmeter as well. |
| 19:48:20 | diddystar5 | humm i found a few display mis-positions to correct |
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| 20:02:26 | diddystar5 | humm i didnt have code for USB connection either |
| 20:03:00 | Laurent_ | what search engines do you use apart from google ? |
| 20:03:30 | diddystar5 | me? uhh nothing but google |
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| 20:05:26 | diddystar5 | hello Guest |
| 20:05:37 | Sebulba02 | g00g1E 0wNz |
| 20:05:48 | Guest | hi diddy |
| 20:10:01 | Laurent_ | ok thanks |
| 20:10:26 | diddystar5 | heh |
| 20:15:48 | diddystar5 | pfavr: how would i figure out using math, what position (left-right)_needle_top_x would be on a log scale, if the position (without log) of (left_right)_needle_top_x was 4 (or if you can give my a formula, make that x)? |
| 20:21:40 | diddystar5 | if i just do log(4) on my calc i get a long decimal number |
| 20:26:26 | diddystar5 | log(4*56)? |
| 20:30:08 | pfavr | calc_db returns a value between 0 and 8961 |
| 20:30:13 | Laurent_ | = log 4 + log 56 |
| 20:30:29 | Laurent_ | :) |
| 20:30:48 | pfavr | you just need to adjust this range to fit the lcd |
| 20:31:00 | diddystar5 | i cant figure out how to do so |
| 20:31:27 | Sebulba02 | divide |
| 20:31:51 | diddystar5 | divide what? |
| 20:32:09 | diddystar5 | brb |
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| 20:33:29 | Sebulba02 | You need to scale this by the width:height of the screen, so you divide by some equal factor of w:h in order to make it fit and not distort it. |
| 20:35:25 | diddystar5 | holdon |
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| 20:39:00 | diddystar5 | so whats the formula to calculate thel og, and have it sclaed for the screen? |
| 20:39:34 | pfavr | lets say you use the calc_db (which contains the log already) |
| 20:39:51 | pfavr | it returns a value between 0 and 8961 |
| 20:39:59 | pfavr | what is the width of the lcd? |
| 20:40:13 | diddystar5 | 112, or 56 is half (for each needle) |
| 20:40:52 | pfavr | ok, you then divide by 8961/56 = 160 |
| 20:41:26 | pfavr | btw just found cos() and sin() in cube.c |
| 20:41:50 | pfavr | (so you could do the needle wo stretching) |
| 20:41:55 | diddystar5 | are those float? |
| 20:42:05 | diddystar5 | ohh |
| 20:42:10 | pfavr | no, also fixed point |
| 20:43:41 | Laurent_ | isn't there a define or variable for the lcd_width ? |
| 20:45:09 | diddystar5 | i dont know much about sin/cos what would be the best formula for that?yes |
| 20:45:15 | diddystar5 | sory |
| 20:45:41 | diddystar5 | yes there is a defined varible for lcd_width |
| 20:45:55 | diddystar5 | i beleive it is LCD_WIDTH |
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| 20:54:50 | Laurent_ | I think i saw something along those lines |
| 20:55:30 | Laurent_ | wait, is this sentence correct ? I'm wondering ? |
| 20:59:03 | diddystar5 | no period |
| 20:59:26 | diddystar5 | :) |
| 20:59:54 | Laurent_ | ? |
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| 21:00:16 | Laurent_ | I have an english question |
| 21:00:26 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 21:00:33 | Laurent_ | could you please tell me if the following sentence is ok or awkward ? |
| 21:00:43 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 21:01:12 | Laurent_ | "However, my research about the CalmRisc 16 did not bring much results" |
| 21:01:38 | Laurent_ | I wonder if "about" is ok, or something else should be used, and if it shouldn't be "researches" |
| 21:01:42 | diddystar5 | looks good to me |
| 21:02:14 | diddystar5 | "research on" |
| 21:02:27 | Laurent_ | on ! right |
| 21:02:37 | Laurent_ | looks much better indedd |
| 21:02:39 | Laurent_ | indeed |
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| 21:05:49 | diddystar5 | hey Bluechip |
| 21:05:56 | Bluechip | hey diddy |
| 21:09:15 | diddystar5 | ohh, i still havent tried your new patch, im going to try it now |
| 21:10:07 | Bluechip | great - any feedback is cool ...Linus wants a couple of bits changed, so I am maintaining a list |
| 21:14:49 | Laurent_ | thanks ! |
| 21:14:54 | Laurent_ | (yes i'm slow) |
| 21:15:40 | Laurent_ | but it's hard to be fast when a cat lies on your desk, on your mouse and forearms |
| 21:23:40 | diddystar5 | Bluechip: the .rockbox directory never shows up on the browser in the simulatore |
| 21:24:48 | Bluechip | there are old bugs here that I fixed by doing the wrong thing ...this is on the list |
| 21:25:04 | Bluechip | you can browse to your build dir and all will make sense |
| 21:25:36 | diddystar5 | ohh and the cube plugin if you press play, it spins super fast |
| 21:26:06 | Bluechip | is that bad? |
| 21:26:30 | diddystar5 | well its weird |
| 21:26:36 | Bluechip | there are long standing timing issues with the sim |
| 21:26:45 | diddystar5 | ohh and the lcd inverse dosent work! |
| 21:27:21 | Bluechip | omg. well, can't say you're not a good beta tester - lol |
| 21:29:09 | diddystar5 | i dont think it would be all that hard to get the sim to play sound |
| 21:29:31 | diddystar5 | just the mas reads are the hard part if that were to be done |
| 21:29:32 | Bluechip | go4it |
| 21:29:57 | Bluechip | i thought to link the volume controls to windows direct-x |
| 21:30:05 | Bluechip | or add winamp plugin support |
| 21:30:23 | Bluechip | ...a great job for someone who cares - lol |
| 21:30:29 | diddystar5 | i do! |
| 21:30:32 | diddystar5 | heh |
| 21:30:42 | Bluechip | well, if you get stuck feel free to ask |
| 21:30:48 | Bluechip | ..for help |
| 21:31:22 | Laurent_ | good, another mail sent, this time to the designer of the gmini cpu core |
| 21:31:56 | Bluechip | LOL - we did that with the DVD hacking ...got the original NSA manual - LOL |
| 21:32:36 | Laurent_ | I think I can't get any closer from the important people |
| 21:32:37 | Laurent_ | :) |
| 21:32:43 | Laurent_ | Bluechip: nice one ;) |
| 21:33:01 | Bluechip | the original MIPS core had an instruction HSC |
| 21:33:12 | Bluechip | Halt and Spontaneously Combust |
| 21:33:17 | Bluechip | NO, I am NOT joking |
| 21:35:19 | Laurent_ | can't find any trace of it on google |
| 21:36:38 | Bluechip | of what? |
| 21:36:49 | Laurent_ | of hsc |
| 21:37:05 | Bluechip | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mipsx_src |
| 21:37:23 | diddystar5 | heh |
| 21:37:59 | Laurent_ | need to register |
| 21:38:09 | Bluechip | you got a yahoo account? |
| 21:38:49 | diddystar5 | i havent used yahoo in a long time |
| 21:40:08 | Bluechip | yahoo groups are great |
| 21:40:22 | Bluechip | limited - but so quick and easy to do all the stuff you need |
| 21:40:46 | Laurent_ | nope no account |
| 21:40:52 | diddystar5 | my yahoo acount is still alive wow |
| 21:40:53 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 21:40:58 | diddystar5 | humm old mail... |
| 21:41:12 | Bluechip | 20 seconds to join ....DO NOT tell it that you are in U.S. |
| 21:41:22 | Bluechip | or they will not let you collect your email |
| 21:41:33 | diddystar5 | You are using 125% of your 4.0 MB limit. |
| 21:41:34 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 21:42:00 | diddystar5 | holy crap 830 mails |
| 21:42:22 | Bluechip | if you get a non-US address you can use POP |
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| 21:44:23 | midknight2k3 | woo |
| 21:44:27 | midknight2k3 | full in here |
| 21:44:27 | diddystar5 | almost all them apear to be archos multimedia mail |
| 21:44:33 | diddystar5 | midknight2k3! |
| 21:44:33 | Bluechip | alirite midnite :) |
| 21:44:37 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 21:50:16 | Bluechip | so, mk, hows about testin' mi new win32sim patch and telling about all the stuff I missed? |
| 21:50:50 | Laurent_ | diddystar5: what kind of mail ? ads ? |
| 21:51:08 | Laurent_ | midknight2k3: could you see the images of the UI ? |
| 21:51:36 | midknight2k3 | i did yeah thankls |
| 21:51:36 | Laurent_ | shit, yahoo is not sending me the confirmation code |
| 21:51:41 | diddystar5 | Laurent_: mostly the archos multi forum mails, not many ads at all |
| 21:51:44 | midknight2k3 | Bluechip: in a few hours? |
| 21:51:49 | Laurent_ | they are crappy but better than nothing |
| 21:52:18 | Bluechip | url? |
| 21:54:12 | Ctcp | Version from pfavr!~pfavr@213.237.46.232.adsl.ron.worldonline.dk |
| 21:54:23 | Laurent_ | http://lgiroud.chez.tiscali.fr/gmini/ui.html |
| 21:55:23 | Laurent_ | well back to firmware analysis |
| 21:55:50 | Bluechip | check the address and data lines for mis-wiring |
| 21:57:14 | diddystar5 | still have 509 mails in yahoo :) |
| 21:57:41 | Laurent_ | did find it |
| 21:57:54 | Laurent_ | (hsc), probably used by the army :) |
| 21:58:19 | midknight2k3 | HOLY WTF |
| 21:58:20 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
| 21:58:32 | diddystar5 | what? |
| 21:58:58 | Bluechip | "only available on -NSA versions of the device" |
| 21:59:16 | Bluechip | I think there is little doubt as to why it was there |
| 21:59:18 | midknight2k3 | OMG |
| 21:59:19 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
| 21:59:33 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:41 | midknight2k3 | bye al |
| 22:00:56 | Bluechip | gnite albert |
| 22:00:58 | | Quit midknight2k3 ("sudden death") |
| 22:01:19 | Laurent_ | sure |
| 22:03:24 | Bluechip | Laurent_, nice going, but perhaps the images are a little on the large size for screen shots |
| 22:03:37 | Bluechip | the circuit shots will benefit from big images |
| 22:03:59 | diddystar5 | got my yahoo mail cleaned out finaly |
| 22:05:01 | Bluechip | where can i find the AVI->RVF converter? |
| 22:05:56 | diddystar5 | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/source.zip |
| 22:06:03 | diddystar5 | its in that zip |
| 22:06:09 | Bluechip | thanks dude |
| 22:06:51 | diddystar5 | Bluechip: do you know of any programs to convert dvd vob files to avi? |
| 22:07:02 | webmind | diddystar5, mplayer |
| 22:07:22 | Sebulba02 | In need of a dvd ripper are we? |
| 22:07:39 | diddystar5 | webmind: not for windows (except fot cygwin), and knoppix dosent have it |
| 22:07:43 | Bluechip | to avi, no sorry, I go to mpeg |
| 22:07:54 | diddystar5 | webmind: i could download for linux, how big is it? |
| 22:07:59 | webmind | mplayer is not windows |
| 22:08:13 | webmind | check mplayer-hq.hu |
| 22:08:15 | webmind | afaik |
| 22:08:19 | webmind | or just google for mplaye |
| 22:08:20 | webmind | r |
| 22:08:20 | Sebulba02 | no - |
| 22:08:25 | Laurent_ | Bluechip: you mean, images are *much* too large ;) I do agree ! |
| 22:08:52 | Bluechip | lol |
| 22:09:42 | diddystar5 | webmind: you think the redhat rpm will work on knoppix? |
| 22:09:58 | webmind | diddystar5, rpm ? |
| 22:10:02 | webmind | no.. compile |
| 22:10:12 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 22:10:12 | webmind | if you compile it'll work on knoppix |
| 22:10:40 | diddystar5 | will i need to download the codec also? |
| 22:11:20 | webmind | yes |
| 22:11:22 | webmind | multiple |
| 22:11:29 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 22:11:47 | diddystar5 | thanks webmind |
| 22:12:22 | webmind | np |
| 22:19:41 | dsg | I thought knoppix had mplayer? |
| 22:19:50 | webmind | nop |
| 22:19:53 | webmind | xine |
| 22:19:56 | dsg | Bleh. |
| 22:19:59 | webmind | yeah |
| 22:20:03 | dsg | Well, that's something they should fix. |
| 22:20:10 | webmind | altough for some reason mplayer has probs here |
| 22:20:21 | diddystar5 | it has xmms (or whatever it is!) |
| 22:20:23 | webmind | can't play some codec |
| 22:21:10 | dsg | webmind: Should be fixable by compile-time options. |
| 22:21:12 | dsg | Which codec? |
| 22:21:21 | webmind | don't know |
| 22:21:27 | webmind | is just some video clip |
| 22:22:20 | dsg | mplayer is the only player that doesn't give me probs :) |
| 22:22:22 | dsg | On anything. |
| 22:22:35 | webmind | it gives me other probs aswell |
| 22:22:38 | webmind | with playback |
| 22:22:48 | webmind | some movies don't work with sdl or xv |
| 22:23:13 | dsg | No probs here. |
| 22:23:55 | webmind | odd |
| 22:24:05 | webmind | battle_royale is an example |
| 22:24:44 | pfavr | diddystar5: I use dvdrip |
| 22:25:43 | diddystar5 | pfavr: it rips to avi? |
| 22:26:07 | pfavr | diddystar5: yes. It is a perltk frontend to transcode |
| 22:26:33 | diddystar5 | cool is it free? |
| 22:26:44 | diddystar5 | (if not, im sure i can find it for) |
| 22:26:47 | pfavr | diddystar5: it rips, encodes, produces subtitles, and even burns to cd. It also has a cluster option. Yes it is free |
| 22:27:11 | pfavr | I run it on debian unstable |
| 22:28:07 | pfavr | just add the deb http://marillat.free.fr unstable main to /etc/apt/sources.list and use apt-get |
| 22:28:12 | diddystar5 | i have 2 downloads going, i dont think ill get a website open for awhile |
| 22:28:40 | webmind | hmmm |
| 22:28:58 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 22:29:37 | webmind | xine works |
| 22:31:45 | diddystar5 | 82% of mplayer, and 56% of codecs |
| 22:32:17 | webmind | ok |
| 22:32:21 | webmind | goodluck :) |
| 22:32:22 | * | webmind gone |
| 22:32:39 | diddystar5 | :) |
| 22:35:26 | diddystar5 | ohh boy, ripping a dvd in knoppix is gonna be tricky |
| 22:35:41 | webmind | man mencoder |
| 22:35:45 | webmind | after install |
| 22:35:58 | diddystar5 | my drive cant be written to because its ntfs |
| 22:36:20 | diddystar5 | and i have two cd drives (dvd, cd rw) |
| 22:36:43 | diddystar5 | i guess ill have to use my archos to hold the video |
| 22:37:33 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 22:38:03 | diddystar5 | done with mplayer, and 76% of codecs |
| 22:41:33 | Laurent_ | does anyone know how to save a file under hexl-mode within emacs in hexadecimal form instead of pure binary ? |
| 22:42:34 | diddystar5 | donw with dl's |
| 22:42:36 | diddystar5 | bye |
| 22:42:38 | Laurent_ | silence says it all ;) |
| 22:42:43 | Bluechip | lol |
| 22:42:44 | diddystar5 | i cant be online in linux |
| 22:42:45 | Bluechip | bye |
| 22:42:53 | Laurent_ | bye |
| 22:42:54 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") |
| 22:49:41 | Bluechip | right - programming time .... |
| 22:49:58 | | Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") |
| 22:51:45 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@ACCAC25A.ipt.aol.com) |
| 22:52:40 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 22:54:12 | | Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) |
| 22:54:26 | midknight2k3 | hi |
| 22:57:54 | midknight2k3 | WHOOOAAAAAAA |
| 22:59:08 | | Join EoS [0] (lit@pD9E2898E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:59:16 | EoS | hello |
| 22:59:20 | midknight2k3 | hi |
| 22:59:54 | EoS | i got a question about my bios/mainboard, i know this is no help channel but i guess id find some smart ppl here |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:19 | midknight2k3 | uhm.. |
| 23:00:47 | EoS | well its actually related to mp3 players also.. |
| 23:00:57 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 23:01:30 | EoS | can i use my HD mp3 player as a boot up drive? |
| 23:01:38 | midknight2k3 | doubted. |
| 23:02:02 | EoS | cause i was told a normal usb HD would work if the bios supports it |
| 23:02:19 | midknight2k3 | if it does |
| 23:02:37 | midknight2k3 | i don't know much about it, but new revisions support booting from USB flashdrives and such |
| 23:03:37 | EoS | yeah...well my mainboard is about 1.5 years old or so or maybe 2 |
| 23:04:59 | midknight2k3 | you can get a BIOS update online |
| 23:05:19 | EoS | yup im looking for one right now |
| 23:08:18 | EoS | ok thx |
| 23:08:30 | midknight2k3 | good luck |
| 23:09:04 | * | Laurent_ is diffing firmware files, sure to get no useful result |
| 23:09:12 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 23:09:58 | | Quit EoS ("Peace & Protection 4.22") |
| 23:13:45 | Laurent_ | hey, very useful on the contrary |
| 23:13:52 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 23:14:30 | Laurent_ | convert binary files into their text hexadecimal equivalent, 2 bytes per line |
| 23:14:36 | midknight2k3 | fads |
| 23:14:38 | Laurent_ | and diff between those files |
| 23:14:41 | midknight2k3 | afdss |
| 23:14:47 | Laurent_ | rjoazrh ? |
| 23:14:53 | midknight2k3 | rasd |
| 23:14:56 | * | Laurent_ speaks borg |
| 23:15:05 | midknight2k3 | BORK BORG BORD |
| 23:15:11 | Laurent_ | :) |
| 23:15:57 | Laurent_ | can you translate rasd ? |
| 23:16:16 | midknight2k3 | means "SDD" |
| 23:19:20 | Laurent_ | ok |
| 23:19:27 | | Join diddystar5 [0] (LeeP@AC88FF28.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:19:46 | diddystar5 | webmind: mplayer compiled, but it wouldnt install |
| 23:22:50 | diddystar5 | im going to try dvdrip to do it |
| 23:23:52 | scott666 | does anyone have suggestions for ripping the audio of a dvd to mp3? |
| 23:24:01 | midknight2k3 | no ideas. |
| 23:27:00 | pfavr | scott666: I think dvdrip can rip the audio to a wav |
| 23:28:04 | scott666 | pfavr: does it run on XP? |
| 23:28:08 | | Quit c0utta|AFK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:28:25 | diddystar5 | bye im going back to linux to try dvdrip |
| 23:28:26 | midknight2k3 | bye diddy |
| 23:28:36 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") |
| 23:29:31 | pfavr | scott666: don't know |
| 23:29:43 | pfavr | scott666: I use it on debian unstable |
| 23:30:11 | midknight2k3 | ASDF |
| 23:30:12 | midknight2k3 | SDD |
| 23:30:13 | midknight2k3 | DFAD |
| 23:30:25 | | Nick edx{code} is now known as edx{tv} (edx@pD9EAAC63.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:30:35 | * | scott666 slaps midknight2k3 with a large salmon |
| 23:30:42 | * | midknight2k3 slaps scott666 around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:30:49 | midknight2k3 | hi edx |
| 23:34:25 | | Join track [0] (jirc@ACBCB536.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:36:52 | midknight2k3 | tracky |
| 23:36:52 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 23:36:55 | track | Hi |
| 23:37:58 | track | The most annoying people have their names starting with the letters: mi |
| 23:38:19 | midknight2k3 | wheres ignore. |
| 23:38:25 | scott666 | right click |
| 23:38:38 | midknight2k3 | but ignore by ip is different |
| 23:38:46 | midknight2k3 | i think its /ignore <hostname> |
| 23:38:52 | track | lol thats your answer to everything midknight, ignore |
| 23:39:05 | midknight2k3 | * Added *!jirc@ACBCB536.ipt.aol.com to ignore list |
| 23:39:06 | midknight2k3 | IT WORKS |
| 23:39:30 | | Join arspy87 [0] (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 23:39:43 | track | yay mid has ignored me! |
| 23:39:44 | track | about time too |
| 23:39:47 | midknight2k3 | er |
| 23:39:49 | midknight2k3 | ill unignore |
| 23:39:52 | midknight2k3 | if i can figure it out |
| 23:39:57 | arspy87 | hey |
| 23:40:01 | track | hi arspy |
| 23:40:04 | midknight2k3 | removed |
| 23:40:06 | midknight2k3 | there ya go track |
| 23:40:11 | track | ok |
| 23:40:14 | track | it was a joke mid |
| 23:40:17 | midknight2k3 | i know |
| 23:40:18 | midknight2k3 | me too |
| 23:40:19 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 23:40:24 | midknight2k3 | i have a present for you. |
| 23:40:25 | arspy87 | hello midk |
| 23:40:31 | midknight2k3 | hi as |
| 23:40:31 | track | as in midknight and mikeholden |
| 23:40:33 | track | both begin with mi |
| 23:40:34 | track | :D |
| 23:40:39 | midknight2k3 | ohhh lol |
| 23:40:43 | arspy87 | midk i'm |
| 23:40:46 | midknight2k3 | why didnt you say "mik" |
| 23:40:47 | arspy87 | "spy" here |
| 23:40:53 | midknight2k3 | ok, spy |
| 23:40:58 | arspy87 | yay |
| 23:40:59 | midknight2k3 | i like as better |
| 23:41:03 | midknight2k3 | as is casual |
| 23:41:06 | midknight2k3 | hey "as" |
| 23:41:22 | arspy87 | ok sure :) |
| 23:41:41 | track | How old is mikeholden? |
| 23:41:48 | midknight2k3 | older than you |
| 23:41:51 | midknight2k3 | hed beat you up |
| 23:41:59 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 23:42:13 | track | how old? |
| 23:42:19 | midknight2k3 | dunno |
| 23:42:19 | track | 30, 40, 50, 60? |
| 23:42:21 | midknight2k3 | mikeholden.org |
| 23:42:26 | midknight2k3 | http://mikeholden.org |
| 23:42:58 | arspy87 | gotta go be back later |
| 23:42:59 | | Part arspy87 |
| 23:43:21 | | Join diddystar5 [0] (LeeP@ACD0F694.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:47:10 | * | Laurent_ bows before diff |
| 23:48:38 | | Join arspy87 [0] (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 23:48:50 | arspy87 | back |
| 23:49:13 | midknight2k3 | sur |
| 23:49:16 | midknight2k3 | dur |
| 23:52:10 | arspy87 | we meet again, mk |
| 23:55:00 | arspy87 | midk how's your analog clock coming along? |
| 23:55:01 | | Quit track ("Leaving") |
| 23:55:27 | midknight2k3 | GREAT |
| 23:55:34 | diddystar5 | it cool |
| 23:55:44 | Bluechip | yeah, looked at that the other night - coming along real nice :) |
| 23:55:52 | midknight2k3 | blue |
| 23:55:55 | midknight2k3 | its gotten way farter |
| 23:56:00 | midknight2k3 | farther* :D |
| 23:56:05 | Bluechip | further |
| 23:56:10 | Bluechip | lol |
| 23:56:11 | midknight2k3 | i like farther |
| 23:56:17 | arspy87 | further |
| 23:56:18 | midknight2k3 | this isnt riovolution |
| 23:56:21 | midknight2k3 | arspy |
| 23:56:21 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 23:56:26 | midknight2k3 | dont be RRS |
| 23:56:30 | midknight2k3 | you either Bluechip |
| 23:56:34 | arspy87 | farther is relative to physical posiiton, further is like progress (i think) |
| 23:56:41 | midknight2k3 | SHUTUP |
| 23:57:04 | arspy87 | Og, right, I slipped. Sorry about that. I fixed it. -Spy |
| 23:57:08 | arspy87 | jk , jk |
| 23:57:08 | midknight2k3 | fine well physically |
| 23:57:14 | midknight2k3 | farther |
| 23:57:18 | midknight2k3 | its physically farther |
| 23:57:26 | midknight2k3 | like if it were at 5 on the good scale now its at 8 |
| 23:57:34 | arspy87 | "physically" in terms of code, eh? hmm. |
| 23:57:40 | arspy87 | ah, that makes sense |
| 23:57:43 | midknight2k3 | jerk |
| 23:57:47 | arspy87 | but it's a digital scale, no? |
| 23:57:55 | arspy87 | sorry midk im just giving you a hard time |
| 23:57:58 | arspy87 | :) |
| 23:58:13 | scott666 | so its more lines now? |
| 23:58:35 | scott666 | or did you move your computer to the second floor? |
| 23:58:48 | midknight2k3 | scott: it's more lines, but more features too |
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