#rockbox 2003-12-28

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#rockbox log for 2003-12-28

00:04:09		Quit pfavr ("need sleep")
00:04:17	arspy87	it's quiet here, midk.
00:04:29	midknight2k3	if youd not act like a fool it'dn't be
00:05:54	Bluechip	not talkin' to me midk?
00:05:59	midknight2k3	as
00:06:02	midknight2k3	what
00:06:03	midknight2k3	OHH
00:06:05	midknight2k3	sorry Bluechip
00:06:11	midknight2k3	didnt see your message
00:06:13	midknight2k3	yes i did
00:06:14	arspy87	aww midk :(
00:06:21	midknight2k3	asdf
00:06:23	midknight2k3	that is
00:06:26	Bluechip	cool
00:06:26	midknight2k3	not as
00:06:28	midknight2k3	i meant asdf
00:06:33	midknight2k3	theres a lot more bluechip
00:06:35	arspy87	hides in corner
00:06:38	midknight2k3	tell ya what. is dcc ok?
00:06:45	Bluechip	let's take a look, i need a break from this
00:06:53	midknight2k3	dcc?
00:06:59	Bluechip	as you like :)
00:07:24	Bluechip	send over the C
00:07:39	midknight2k3	not yet
00:07:41	midknight2k3	its almost done
00:07:44	midknight2k3	just an inch
00:07:50	midknight2k3	i can feel it. it will be done today. :D
00:07:53	Bluechip	okay when your readuy
00:08:00	midknight2k3	but the rock!
00:08:06	midknight2k3	try it
00:09:19	Bluechip	not got my archos to hand
00:09:53	midknight2k3	aww
00:10:03	Bluechip	doing everything in the sim atm
00:10:52	midknight2k3	awwwwww
00:10:55	midknight2k3	poor bc
00:11:00	midknight2k3	i can be a tester if you like
00:11:08	Bluechip	for what?
00:11:28	midknight2k3	didnt you ask earlier
00:11:35	Bluechip	prolly
00:11:37	midknight2k3	if i could test a sim update or something
00:11:44	Bluechip	go4it :)
00:11:55	midknight2k3	?
00:11:59	midknight2k3	the one at the patch page?
00:12:01	Bluechip	test my patch :)
00:12:01	arspy87	i like that bluechip, go4it
00:12:10	arspy87	"go4it" :)
00:12:12	Bluechip	:)
00:12:12	midknight2k3	calm down as
00:12:19	*	midknight2k3 blecchs
00:12:19	arspy87	ok midk
00:12:29		Join c0utta\|AFK [0] (~btcoutts@dialup-35.55.221.203.acc05-waym-adl.comindico.com.au)
00:12:37	midknight2k3	IMPOSSIBLE
00:12:44	midknight2k3	how can you be afk when you join a channel
00:12:49	midknight2k3	like AFK right away
00:13:03	arspy87	lol
00:13:08	midknight2k3	like you hit AFK RIGHT after you hit join
00:13:12	midknight2k3	like "joinafk"
00:13:18	midknight2k3	so fast within a millisecond
00:13:34	midknight2k3	you wanna be punched
00:13:45	Bluechip	you're not thinking laterally about the issue
00:13:49	scott666	maybe he was just afk when he signed off
00:13:51	Bluechip	hi c0utta\|AFK
00:14:35	midknight2k3	hes AFK
00:14:37	midknight2k3	cant you tell
00:16:32	Laurent_	does anyone know of a software converting diff output to html ? such as cvs diffs ?
00:16:43	midknight2k3	asdf
00:16:54	scott666	does google count as a person?
00:17:01	midknight2k3	LOL
00:17:03	Laurent_	no
00:17:04	Laurent_	:)
00:17:06	arspy87	lmao
00:17:17	Bluechip	diff->html....hmmm not sure repcisely what you are after
00:17:23	midknight2k3	fads
00:17:26	midknight2k3	shush as
00:17:30	Laurent_	google will help me find it, i'm just asking in case you know
00:17:42	diddystar5	fdsa
00:18:06	Laurent_	something like this : http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/rockbox/firmware/drivers/lcd-recorder.c?r1=1.24&r2=1.25
00:18:13	arspy87	dafd :) that was for you midk
00:18:34	diddystar5	sdd
00:18:57	Bluechip	hmm, no, sorry, not got any libs quite that sophisticated :(
00:19:27	Bluechip	diff does a side-by-side ...but I've never used it
00:20:08	Laurent_	I use it but html would be much more readable
00:20:38	Bluechip	if the s-b-s output from diff is -close- it's a 10 minunte job to write one?
00:24:44	Laurent_	depends on how it was implemented
00:25:26	Bluechip	depends on what you want
00:25:32	Bluechip	something readable
00:25:45	midknight2k3	i havea idea
00:25:55	midknight2k3	just copy the diff text and paste it into a html file
00:26:00	midknight2k3	then youre done
00:26:06	Laurent_	lol
00:26:15	midknight2k3	relly
00:26:16	Bluechip	or something that looks >gooo<
00:26:19	midknight2k3	sounds simple
00:26:22	Bluechip	>good<
00:26:40	Bluechip	use windows and install ultraedit :)
00:26:49	Laurent_	gasp
00:26:56	midknight2k3	sd
00:27:19	midknight2k3	Sebulba02?\
00:27:25	midknight2k3	Sebulba02?
00:27:53	Bluechip	http://kafka.fr.free.fr/diff2html/
00:28:35	Laurent_	i've found this too : http://ietf.levkowetz.com/tools/rfcdiff/
00:28:35	Bluechip	looks like JUST what you want :)
00:28:58	midknight2k3	asdf
00:29:03	Bluechip	ohhh - mine says "First, make sure you have Python installed."
00:29:13	Laurent_	exactly
00:30:05	midknight2k3	ssfg
00:30:15	Bluechip	superdarrieus?
00:30:22	Bluechip	hee hee
00:30:22	midknight2k3	ir76u
00:30:45	midknight2k3	that sounds like part of a cd key
00:30:46	Laurent_	mk2k3 abbrevs puzzle me
00:30:49	midknight2k3	IR76U
00:30:55	midknight2k3	you know like windows cdkey
00:30:58	midknight2k3	sounds like part of it
00:31:19	arspy87	it does midk
00:31:21	*	midknight2k3 wants to run and get GTA3/VC for xbox but its too far to the store
00:31:24	arspy87	wow
00:31:27	midknight2k3	as: whats your problem
00:31:36	arspy87	mk: i dunno
00:31:44	midknight2k3	its large whatever it is :D
00:31:55	arspy87	i think i want to see lord of the rings 3 too badly
00:32:13	midknight2k3	sdd
00:32:14	midknight2k3	dfad
00:32:15	midknight2k3	asdf
00:32:18	midknight2k3	h8 lgk870s[s
00:32:27	arspy87	?
00:32:49	Laurent_	no debian package for diff2html :(
00:32:49	midknight2k3	ag
00:32:52	midknight2k3	jhhgyghy
00:32:54	midknight2k3	hnjb
00:33:04	midknight2k3	er herher e hee he aha ahaaaa
00:33:32	Bluechip	did everything go okay with the patch testing MK?
00:33:33	Laurent_	i'm really lazy
00:33:45	Laurent_	i need a package for a python script...
00:33:47	Laurent_	depressing :)
00:34:15	midknight2k3	i didnt test it bc sorrry
00:34:52	Bluechip	that's okay - im sure there was a good reason :)
00:34:56	midknight2k3	yes
00:35:01	midknight2k3	busy posting junk such as ;odsg;hoiaerg;h
00:35:08	arspy87	what's that midk?
00:35:19	arspy87	oh, i get it now
00:35:25	Bluechip	yes, I must say, if you keep it up, I might play with this "ignore" thing myself
00:35:40	midknight2k3	go ahead Bluechip
00:35:42	midknight2k3	get it over with.
00:35:46	arspy87	awaww
00:35:48	arspy87	aww*
00:37:24	midknight2k3	HEY
00:37:25	midknight2k3	gyp876
00:37:29	midknight2k3	gyp87*
00:37:34	midknight2k3	thats like a cdkey part too
00:37:47	midknight2k3	IR67U-GYP87-...
00:37:54	arspy87	lol
00:38:08	midknight2k3	Bluechip: im sorry
00:38:11	midknight2k3	i wont do it anymore
00:38:40	arspy87	Bluechip: midk says hes sorry and wont do it anymore :)
00:39:05	midknight2k3	he ignored me?!
00:39:09	arspy87	maybe
00:39:17	arspy87	if he didnt respond i guess he did ?
00:39:21	arspy87	or maybe hes AFK
00:39:23	Bluechip	should I trust him?
00:39:33	midknight2k3	bluechip!
00:39:34	arspy87	yeah :) trust him
00:39:36	midknight2k3	come on!
00:39:40	midknight2k3	i'm sorry!
00:39:49	arspy87	yay a reunion
00:40:06	Bluechip	I look forward to discovering that you are a man of honour and true to your word :)
00:40:16	midknight2k3	i thought we were friends!
00:40:20	midknight2k3	:D
00:41:04	Laurent_	hey kids
00:41:25	Laurent_	:)
00:41:38	midknight2k3	er
00:44:09	arspy87	g2g in 5
00:44:19	Bluechip	bed time?
00:44:22	Bluechip	lol
00:44:40	midknight2k3	yea
00:44:48	midknight2k3	he has to be in bed at 8:45 pm every night
00:45:05	midknight2k3	or he tends to get cranky- especially if he doesnt get his nap at noon :D
00:45:09	Bluechip	yeah, me too ...If I'm not, I tend to go home
00:45:20	arspy87	lol
00:45:22	arspy87	nah
00:45:27	midknight2k3	bc: why do you hate md
00:45:28	midknight2k3	me
00:45:33	arspy87	i have to burn some cd's then watch a movie
00:45:41	Bluechip	porn?
00:45:45	arspy87	then i'll be back most likely until late hours
00:45:52	arspy87	no, not porn lol
00:45:53	arspy87	music
00:46:07	arspy87	i'm an alternative nut
00:46:12	Bluechip	cool
00:46:50	*	arspy87 wonders what else he can do with this newfangled winXP
00:47:00	Bluechip	erase it
00:47:05	arspy87	oh?
00:47:18	Bluechip	just a personal hatred - sorry
00:47:41	arspy87	lol np
00:47:52	Laurent_	man, this diff2html takes 95% CPU and lasts forever
00:48:22	midknight2k3	oops
00:48:27	midknight2k3	i was about to say
00:48:33	midknight2k3	something stupid like random characters
00:48:40	midknight2k3	but i decided against it becuase of my promise
00:48:46	arspy87	promise?
00:48:52	midknight2k3	to bluechip
00:48:59	Bluechip	;) I like honest people :)
00:49:08	midknight2k3	i just hope he will sniff for.. for.. fogive mee!!!!!!!!!! waaAa
00:49:20	midknight2k3	i had it all typed out too
00:49:26	midknight2k3	it went something like
00:49:32	midknight2k3	nm
00:50:11		Quit midknight2k3 (Excess Flood)
00:50:19		Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@ACCAC25A.ipt.aol.com)
00:50:22	midknight2k3	oppxs
00:50:25	midknight2k3	ops
00:50:25	diddystar5	lol
00:50:27	midknight2k3	oopd3
00:50:31	midknight2k3	OOPS****
00:50:57	arspy87	:)
00:51:22	midknight2k3	i thought you had to LEAVE, as
00:51:26	midknight2k3	ist 6:50
00:51:30	Laurent_	2minutes on a PIII and still no result
00:51:36	midknight2k3	ist 6:51 now
00:51:54	Laurent_	it's computing the 5 billionth decimal of pi I guess
00:52:10	arspy87	c cant do that ;)
00:52:11	midknight2k3	there is no 5 billionth decimal of pi
00:52:11	Bluechip	er ist oder sie ist?
00:52:14	arspy87	midk: im procrastinating
00:52:24	midknight2k3	as: im keeping my promise
00:52:28	midknight2k3	and its HARD
00:52:38	arspy87	i feel your pain, and i really do!
00:52:43	midknight2k3	my fingers itch to slam the keyboard repeatedly and hit enter
00:52:48	arspy87	lmao!
00:53:00	midknight2k3	but i feel i cannot betray Bluechip
00:53:01	Bluechip	new skills can be hard until you get better at it
00:53:14	Laurent_	Bluechip: it depends on what you want to say, if it's "he is" -> "er ist", if "she is" -> "sie ist"
00:53:19	Bluechip	thank you, i respect that
00:53:31	DBUG	Enqueued KICK Bluechip
00:53:31	Bluechip	<midknight2k3> ist 6:51 now
00:53:45	midknight2k3	ill just vent my itch in a different window
00:53:48	midknight2k3	such as notepad
00:54:01	arspy87	LMAO!!!
00:55:05	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
00:55:05	*	scott666 is happy mk forgot about msn
00:55:12	midknight2k3	what
00:55:30	scott666	noooooooo
00:55:39	*	midknight2k3 is happy scott666 reminded him of msn
00:55:47	Laurent_	ctrl-c : too slow
00:56:04	*	arspy87 is happy that midk is happy scott666 reminded him of msn
00:56:14	*	Laurent_ is unhappy
00:56:26	Bluechip	Laurent_ cracked it?
00:56:27	*	arspy87 is unhappy that Laurent_ is unhappy
00:56:31	arspy87	ok ok il lstop now :D
00:56:31	Bluechip	oh no, UN happy
00:56:39	Bluechip	:(
00:56:46	arspy87	ne happy bluechip :)
00:56:54	arspy87	be*
00:56:58	scott666	the antithesis of happy
00:57:19	arspy87	i learned that word in my public speaking class but i forgot it
00:57:42	Bluechip	oohhh, can we move on to vernacular interpretations of submodalitites and the echewing of superfluous predicates?
00:57:48	scott666	i learned it in matrix revolitions
00:57:49	midknight2k3	yea!
00:57:49	scott666	heh
00:57:54	arspy87	i understood that
00:57:56	midknight2k3	and while were at it lets talk about rockbox
00:58:02	arspy87	well some of it
00:58:43	arspy87	well i'm out now
00:58:48	arspy87	be back in.... a few hours i guess
00:59:09	midknight2k3	fe
00:59:13	midknight2k3	bye
00:59:18	midknight2k3	few*
00:59:23	arspy87	bye
00:59:28	arspy87	peace
00:59:29	midknight2k3	bye
00:59:32	midknight2k3	peace yo
00:59:35	Bluechip	l8rz
00:59:36	arspy87	yo yo yo
00:59:39		Part arspy87
01:00
01:06:19	diddystar5	can someone explain the syntax for write?
01:06:34	diddystar5	(as in hard disk write)
01:06:58	Bluechip	http://www.hmug.org/man/2/write.html
01:07:05	midknight2k3	lamo
01:07:06	midknight2k3	lmao
01:09:48	diddystar5	brb
01:09:50		Part diddystar5 ("Leaving")
01:10:01	midknight2k3	fine
01:10:03	midknight2k3	eat me
01:10:14	Bluechip	erm, dude, we're all dudes in here
01:10:27		Join diddystar5 [0] (LeeP@ACD0F694.ipt.aol.com)
01:10:45	midknight2k3	er
01:10:49	midknight2k3	fine
01:10:51	midknight2k3	hate me
01:11:12	Bluechip	I rather do neither, but if it's a choice you are forcing me to make...
01:11:34	Laurent_	heat him ;)
01:11:39	Bluechip	lol
01:11:48	Laurent_	or hit
01:12:20	midknight2k3	clam down
01:12:46	Laurent_	so should you, that'd help you avoid typos ;)
01:13:00	Bluechip	SPAM! These people who keep trying to sell me Viagra - where's the inflatable dolls offer?
01:13:00	midknight2k3	i meant to speel it that way!
01:13:12	Laurent_	oeuf corse
01:13:22	midknight2k3	eet mi
01:13:23	Bluechip	<groan>
01:13:23	scott666	Bluechip: www.realdoll.com
01:13:24	Laurent_	("corsican egg" in french)
01:13:28	midknight2k3	lol
01:13:44	Bluechip	that was toooooooo quick scott
01:13:46	midknight2k3	asdf
01:13:50	midknight2k3	LOL
01:13:58	midknight2k3	im sure he has it memorized
01:14:05	scott666	lol
01:14:15	Bluechip	prolly just read it off the credit card bill
01:14:23	scott666	i do, but only cause ive seen it linked so many times
01:14:25	midknight2k3	lol!
01:14:50	Laurent_	omg, I was wondering what this site was about...
01:15:00	Bluechip	mk, why you not work on your clock?
01:15:06	midknight2k3	i sorta am
01:15:11	midknight2k3	waiting for diddys help :D
01:15:58		Nick edx{tv} is now known as edx{code} (edx@pD9EAAC63.dip.t-dialin.net)
01:16:20	midknight2k3	edx?!
01:16:24	midknight2k3	are you there
01:16:35	edx{code}	ya
01:16:52	Bluechip	what help?
01:16:57	midknight2k3	does edx{code} mean you're coding?
01:17:24	edx{code}	it does ;)
01:17:26	scott666	mk: no, it means hes cracking secret government messages
01:17:27	midknight2k3	Bluechip: help with saving settings
01:17:33	midknight2k3	scott666: lsg
01:17:39	midknight2k3	edx{code}: anything neat? :D
01:17:54	edx{code}	a 3d engine =)
01:17:55	Bluechip	put all values that need to be saved in a single struct :)
01:18:02	edx{code}	but not for rockbox :(
01:18:03	midknight2k3	yay
01:18:07	midknight2k3	Bluechip: i cant
01:18:11	midknight2k3	wanna help?
01:18:14	midknight2k3	boo
01:18:15	midknight2k3	lol
01:18:16	Bluechip	edx: cool - I have all the maze algorithms written :)
01:18:25	midknight2k3	OHH
01:18:30	midknight2k3	you should make a maze plugin
01:18:37	Bluechip	i have
01:18:40	midknight2k3	ohh?!
01:18:45	midknight2k3	where is it
01:18:49	Bluechip	tis not finished
01:18:55	midknight2k3	awww
01:18:58	edx{code}	heh
01:18:58	midknight2k3	is it playable?
01:19:01	Bluechip	yes
01:19:05	midknight2k3	can i see it
01:19:05	Bluechip	in a way
01:19:09	midknight2k3	i want to play it
01:19:10	edx{code}	if it wasnt managed c++ and direct x it would be somewhat convertable..
01:19:11	edx{code}	lol
01:19:13	midknight2k3	ill test it for you
01:19:28	diddystar5	me 2
01:19:34	Bluechip	edx: ahhh, not 3d engine for rockbox :(
01:19:39	midknight2k3	only one can test it diddystar5
01:19:43	midknight2k3	and thats ME
01:19:47	midknight2k3	so where is it
01:19:48	midknight2k3	cmon
01:19:55	edx{code}	[01:18] <edx{code}> but not for rockbox :( :P
01:20:02	Bluechip	ah missed that
01:20:04	Bluechip	sorry
01:20:05	edx{code}	heeh
01:20:08	edx{code}	no problem
01:20:14	edx{code}	3d engine for rockbox would be so neat!
01:20:15	edx{code}	really
01:20:19	midknight2k3	yeah
01:20:26	midknight2k3	man
01:20:32	midknight2k3	i wish of help
01:20:33	diddystar5	sned it to me Bluechip, you know how good i am at finding probs
01:20:36	Bluechip	I may construct a few careful questions and as them of you sometime - I understand much of it, but cant quite get my head around all of it
01:20:49	midknight2k3	Bluechip can you help me with my settings save?
01:20:49	edx{code}	i have a book with all that stuff written in C (a software renderer) - that would theoretically be convartable.. but too much work
01:20:53	midknight2k3	grr
01:20:59	Bluechip	diddy: it is unnfinished - it's poo
01:21:07	midknight2k3	i want to see it though
01:21:14	edx{code}	Bluechip: Oh, I keep guessing around all the time as well ;) - but sure, ask
01:22:19		Nick Bluechip is now known as BC\|code (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com)
01:22:19	DBUG	Enqueued KICK BC\|code
01:22:27	BC\|code	(like that idea)
01:22:39	midknight2k3	aww
01:22:42	midknight2k3	bc
01:22:49	midknight2k3	i need help
01:22:55	BC\|code	oh yeah
01:23:10	edx{code}	=)
01:23:15	BC\|code	struct MyData { ......... } mydata;
01:23:27	midknight2k3	am i ignored bluechip
01:23:28	BC\|code	..... is all the vars you want to save
01:24:47	midknight2k3	grr'
01:27:37	BC\|code	done?
01:27:42	midknight2k3	help!
01:27:44	midknight2k3	please.
01:27:48	midknight2k3	puh leeze
01:28:06	BC\|code	did you follow my last instruction, because I am too busy to keep repeating myself tonight
01:28:19	midknight2k3	,e?
01:28:21	midknight2k3	me?*
01:28:21	BC\|code	"yes", or "no because ..."
01:28:27	BC\|code	yes, you
01:28:43	midknight2k3	no because i didn't see it (again)
01:28:48	BC\|code	^^^
01:28:55	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
01:28:55	*	midknight2k3 looks ^^^
01:29:48	midknight2k3	this?
01:29:48	midknight2k3	put all values that need to be saved in a single struct :)
01:29:57	BC\|code	yes
01:30:01	midknight2k3	how?
01:30:03	midknight2k3	thats my question
01:30:32	BC\|code	i will repeat myself once, for this occasion and not again....
01:30:32	BC\|code	[00:23] <BC\|code> struct MyData { ......... } mydata;
01:30:32	BC\|code	[00:23] <BC\|code> ..... is all the vars you want to save
01:30:41	midknight2k3	ohhhh
01:30:45	midknight2k3	that was geared at me?
01:30:47	midknight2k3	sorry :D
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01:30:50	BC\|code	next to the words: [00:23] <midknight2k3> am i ignored bluechip
01:31:29	midknight2k3	i think ill just leave that feature out.
01:32:49	midknight2k3	well i can write them to file
01:32:53	midknight2k3	i have trouble reading it
01:33:28	midknight2k3	any suggestions there
01:33:34	BC\|code	same one
01:33:40	midknight2k3	really?
01:33:56	midknight2k3	so that will save the settings to disk?
01:34:11	midknight2k3	ahh it's more complex than that
01:34:23	midknight2k3	because if a key is pressed we either save never or always
01:35:02	BC\|code	look dude, you wanna know how I would do it ...so you got two choices ...trust me and learn ....or challenge me at every turn until I give up ....it can only be your choice to make the right one to finish your clock with all the cool features you desire
01:35:27	midknight2k3	i trust you of course
01:35:38	midknight2k3	i just don't understand about the struct
01:35:55	BC\|code	do you want to learn?
01:36:05	midknight2k3	yes. of course.
01:36:08	BC\|code	brb
01:36:18	midknight2k3	..ok
01:38:20	BC\|code	http://www.csc.vill.edu/~lab/C/#DATA ..."structures"
01:39:00	BC\|code	coupled with the example I gave, it really is this simple :)
01:39:12	midknight2k3	ok i'll try my best... thanks bluechip!
01:39:23	BC\|code	when you have done that ...ask me for the next step
01:39:33	midknight2k3	ok :D
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01:40:54	diddystar5	bye
01:41:00	midknight2k3	bye diddy
01:41:01	BC\|code	l8z dude
01:41:06	diddystar5	midknight2k3: ill do some eork on settongs
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01:43:06	scott666	that link gave me a flashback to my C++ course
01:43:08	midknight2k3	ok bluechip i get the concept...
01:43:29	BC\|code	cool - all your vars to be saved get slapped in one big struct
01:43:54	midknight2k3	makes sense, i'm just not sure i fully understand the example they give
01:44:02	BC\|code	see my example
01:44:05	midknight2k3	so all the items in the struct are grouped in a way?
01:44:25	BC\|code	they are grouped <period>
01:44:43	midknight2k3	i don't get the last line
01:44:44	midknight2k3	} myaddr, *youraddr;
01:44:50	midknight2k3	what's that for?
01:44:52	BC\|code	USE MY EXAMPLE
01:45:21	midknight2k3	erm
01:46:44	scott666	whats the bit at the end?
01:46:54	midknight2k3	no idea
01:47:15	edx{code}	pointer type definition...
01:47:31	scott666	ahh
01:47:38	edx{code}	myaddr some_var; youraddr some_prt = &some_var;
01:47:40	*	scott666 is out of practice with C
01:47:41	Laurent_	midknight2k3: this defines a struct and a pointer to a struct
01:47:44	edx{code}	i guess =)
01:47:50	edx{code}	i havent doen that for a while as well :p
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01:48:16	midknight2k3	linus
01:48:16	midknight2k3	hi
01:50:02	Laurent_	midknight2k3: http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cbook/index.html
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01:51:06	Laurent_	get it at the library, you'll always find it useful until you master c
01:52:37	Laurent_	hi linus
01:52:50	midknight2k3	ok Laurent_
01:53:28	LinusN	hi
01:53:44	BC\|code	anybody know the button check code for ON + LEFT ?
01:54:21	LinusN	BUTTON_ON \| BUTTON_LEFT
01:54:31	midknight2k3	i knew that
01:54:35	midknight2k3	you need a colon at the end
01:54:43	BC\|code	thanks Linus
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02:09:46	LinusN	hi phil
02:09:47	kurzhaarrocker	Hi
02:09:58	kurzhaarrocker	Oh, you're up and awake?
02:10:25	kurzhaarrocker	There are so many questions I'd like to ask simultaniously...
02:10:33	midknight2k3	lol
02:10:41	MT	did you have a nice christmas?
02:10:51	*	kurzhaarrocker has a priority deadlock
02:11:04	midknight2k3	i did
02:11:05	midknight2k3	mt
02:11:08	midknight2k3	i think
02:11:11	midknight2k3	nm
02:11:12	midknight2k3	forget me
02:11:13	MT	kill various parts of your brain at random until deadlock is resolved
02:11:25	kurzhaarrocker	I spend my xmas filling the toilet and being sick
02:12:12	Laurent_	you'll remember this one at least :)
02:13:34	kurzhaarrocker	Linus: Do you think it makes sense to extend mpeg.c in a way so that it supports a ring buffer file for prerecording time? Or is that a task for plugin code?
02:15:05	LinusN	kurzhaarrocker: i will commit that functionality very soon
02:15:17	LinusN	ringbuffer file?
02:15:21	kurzhaarrocker	yuppieh! I needn't bother with that!
02:15:37	LinusN	i was thinking of retro recording
02:15:41	midknight2k3	yay
02:15:43	kurzhaarrocker	me too
02:15:44	midknight2k3	retro record WOO
02:15:49	LinusN	but only in memory
02:15:55	midknight2k3	lets make a 500 hour retro recorder
02:15:59	kurzhaarrocker	that limits the retro time
02:16:02	LinusN	about 30 secs
02:17:31	kurzhaarrocker	but when I understand right that patch doesn't include volume triggered recording? (I personally think that this is a task which belongs in app / plugin code anyway)
02:17:36	LinusN	i think a ringbuffer file should be implemented in mpeg.c
02:17:53	BC\|code	volume triggered get's my vote
02:19:05	kurzhaarrocker	But when we do volume triggered stuff we should do it right. There must be not only a threshold volume value, but also a minumum time within which the threshold has to be reached.
02:19:37	kurzhaarrocker	erm. Does anybody understand what I'm talking about?
02:19:56	LinusN	yes of course
02:19:57	MT	anyone know if the legal issues wrt archos mm been resolved
02:20:00	Laurent_	hard one, people can just say "hey", then keep quiet for one or two sec then restart talking
02:20:23	BC\|code	configurable!
02:20:42	LinusN	separate start/stop conditions
02:21:18	kurzhaarrocker	Linus: right. And threshold _and_ minimum time must be configurable for both so that you can build some kind of a hysteresis
02:21:26	LinusN	indeed
02:21:50	LinusN	i'm afraid that we will need high-performance peak meters for this
02:22:18	LinusN	probably extend the peak meter code with this functionality
02:22:33	LinusN	since that is where the sampling takes place
02:22:41	kurzhaarrocker	And maybe a wizzard that analyzes a file (or some life sound) and builds a histogram of peak values for appopriate threshold values
02:23:08	kurzhaarrocker	Linus: The peak meter code is capable of it . In recording.c the full functionality just is not being used.
02:25:39	kurzhaarrocker	Did I really write wizzard? I've read to much Terry Pratchett.
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02:29:01	kurzhaarrocker	I realized something strange: someone defined enum optiontype { INT, BOOL }; in settings.h. That can make conflicts with the simulator builds for windows.
02:30:52	LinusN	haha
02:31:50	kurzhaarrocker	It really happens as soon as you try to put global_settings into the plugin api.
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02:34:07	kurzhaarrocker	LinusN: Or did you mean to extend peak_meter with some callback mechanism to trigger actions on certain thresholds?
02:34:59	MT	hmm, rockbox has ruined me :/
02:35:12	scott666	howso?
02:35:14	MT	i look at new mp3 players and i care little for the size etc
02:35:24	MT	all i want to see is hi res photos of the internals :/
02:35:33	MT	and wonder if i can port rockbox to it
02:35:43	kurzhaarrocker	Yea, that can become expensive.
02:36:20	MT	oooh
02:36:34	MT	that philips hd mp3 player has 32MB mem
02:36:44	midknight2k3	eew
02:37:06	scott666	does that one go with an online music store?
02:37:10	kurzhaarrocker	and you can transfer only via some special software -> unusable
02:37:53	kurzhaarrocker	If you record on the philips via spdif you can not transfer your very own recordings back onto the pc.
02:38:00	midknight2k3	lol
02:38:06	MT	heh
02:38:08	midknight2k3	im sure rockbox could overcome that
02:38:16	MT	okay, lets forget the philips :)
02:38:28	MT	its just NOWHERE sells the archos stuff anymore
02:38:34	scott666	what happened to taht hd-500?
02:38:46	scott666	*that
02:39:41	LinusN	kurzhaarrocker: only a bool start_trigger() function
02:39:59	kurzhaarrocker	another philips joke: you can edit your equalizer settings only offline on the pc.
02:40:43	kurzhaarrocker	LinusN: that means the client software is polling start_trigger?
02:40:49	LinusN	yes
02:41:36	kurzhaarrocker	If you want me to do that you'll have my patch tomorrow. :9
02:41:45	LinusN	wonderful
02:41:58	kurzhaarrocker	I interpret that as a yes.
02:42:02	midknight2k3	kurz: the editor?
02:42:04	midknight2k3	splitter?
02:42:36	kurzhaarrocker	Well - it's in quite a state. I can use it, but I can't get the thing compile in the simulator.
02:43:35	kurzhaarrocker	The code is - well - a good starting point. There are tasks which should be done by mpeg.c that are done in the plugin code.
02:45:46	kurzhaarrocker	The main task of the split editor is looping in order to finetune the split point. But I can't loop cleanly - especially at the end of a file.
02:45:51	kurzhaarrocker	http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/1184.shtml
02:50:08	MT	cheapest price i can find for a recorder 20 is �290
02:50:23	scott666	try froogle?
02:50:26	MT	its actually gone up �90 in a year
02:52:19	BC\|code	Linus, do we have to fflush before we fclose?
02:52:28	midknight2k3	fflush? neat
02:52:32	midknight2k3	er sorry
02:52:54	scott666	ouch! thats $513
02:53:06	LinusN	BC\|code: no
02:53:15	BC\|code	ta
02:53:55	kurzhaarrocker	There's one thing I'm still not quite sure about. When defining a threshold with a minimum time: should it be that the threshold has to be exceeded during all of the minimum time or should it be sufficiant that the threshold must have been exceeded repeatedly within the minimum time.
02:54:53	kurzhaarrocker	I'd prefer the latter
02:56:25	scott666	MT: seriously? 290 pounds?
02:56:33	LinusN	it will work for a short minimum time
02:58:13	kurzhaarrocker	When I think of band practice session it will always happen that some mad guitar man occasionally strikes a single chord just to check that he's louder than the others. I'd like to be able to mask that out with a not so short minimum time.
02:58:47	MT	scott666: yep
02:59:18	MT	im looking at something called an Xclef hd-500 now
02:59:24	MT	http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shopping/pages/buyhd500.html
02:59:32	MT	looks semi non-shit
02:59:41	scott666	MT: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=archos+recorder+20
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03:00:05	Laurent_	why not propose several methods to the user ?
03:00:07	MT	and how many of them are uk/eu?
03:00:16	LinusN	kurzhaarrocker: your case is very different from LP->MP3 conversion, for example
03:00:44	scott666	the shippings got to be less then $200
03:00:46	kurzhaarrocker	Laurent: I'd like to avoid to drown the user with features he doesn't understand
03:00:58	kurzhaarrocker	Linus: yes, that's true
03:01:58	LinusN	you might also want to prerecord with the same amount as the minimum time
03:02:31	kurzhaarrocker	Usually even a bit more for songs that fade in.
03:02:37	MT	scott666: but then when it breaks (hey, I've had an archos before ..) not only am I stuck with US warranty, I have to return the thing by courier AND pay the duty myself
03:02:37	LinusN	yup
03:03:13	MT	quickly adds up
03:04:12	scott666	good point
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03:08:33	MT	i think ill get one of these xclef ones
03:08:39	midknight2k3	BOO
03:08:41	MT	they seem VERY similar to archos
03:08:46	midknight2k3	BOO
03:08:50	scott666	there was some talk of them on the list
03:08:55	MT	see if i cant port rockbox to it
03:09:15	MT	and if not, i'll just load it up with my mp3 collection and flog it on ebay
03:09:23	scott666	someone was going to buy one and send to bj�rn
03:10:01	MT	altho itdoes play wma
03:10:12	kurzhaarrocker	poor boy: he'll drown in toys with no time to really _use_ them.
03:10:17	scott666	look for a fireware update
03:10:30	MT	so it either has a different mas
03:10:43	MT	or they know how to program it better :)
03:11:46	MT	big firmware
03:11:59	kurzhaarrocker	is it in java?
03:12:05	MT	heh
03:12:22	scott666	You can then change the battery. The battery costs about $12 plus exchange fee. This battery is the same as a mobile phone battery.
03:16:04	kurzhaarrocker	There's a thing I'm on the edge of implementing, too: files with peek values. These files would be generated / updated while recording or playing and could be used for visual help to identify certain parts of a song.
03:16:32	kurzhaarrocker	They could be "played" synchonously with the song.
03:18:01	kurzhaarrocker	Imagine you did a fast forward and while doing that the wps would be temporarily replaced by somethink like the oscillograph.
03:18:29	kurzhaarrocker	somethink? funny typo
03:20:19	LinusN	i must say that i have never felt a need for such a thing...
03:20:29	midknight2k3	what
03:20:43	MT	hmm
03:20:44	LinusN	but i do not record that much either
03:20:50	midknight2k3	ohh
03:20:54	kurzhaarrocker	LinusN: you probably don't edit recording sessions with lots of silence within
03:21:01	LinusN	exactly
03:21:09	MT	the hd-500 manual has some interesting things to say about their stop button
03:21:16	midknight2k3	like, mt?
03:21:16	MT	slightly spammy this ..
03:21:32	MT	When pressed briefly:
03:21:32	MT	- Stops playback and enters Browser mode.
03:21:32	MT	- Takes you back to the higher-level folder when in a subfolder of the
03:21:32	DBUG	Enqueued KICK MT
03:21:32	MT	higher-level folder
03:21:32	MT	When held down:
03:21:35	MT	- The unit will automatically power off when this button is held for about
03:21:36	MT	3 seconds.
03:21:38	MT	- The unit will force power off when this button is held for longer than 10
03:21:40	MT	seconds.
03:21:42	MT	sound familiar?
03:21:51	LinusN	hehe
03:22:53	MT	it has a mass storage compliant chip in it
03:23:01	scott666	the firmware file is 1.8MB!
03:23:05	MT	so possibly the isd-300 or a variant
03:23:08	LinusN	whoa!
03:23:10	MT	yeah1
03:23:40	MT	hah
03:23:46	kurzhaarrocker	1.8 MB -> probably most of it is scrambling overhead
03:23:54	MT	the power on screen is like a copy of the archos
03:24:01	MT	even has the little progress bar
03:24:21	MT	it loads firmware from hd too
03:24:43	scott666	any info about the flash rom?
03:24:46	scott666	heh
03:25:11	kurzhaarrocker	Any schematics online? :)
03:26:03	MT	looks like quite a nice device actually
03:26:10	MT	i may get one just for the hell of it
03:26:53	kurzhaarrocker	oh, btw: Since when has the archos original firmware had this feature of fading light? Never noticed that with my old broken unit and now my new recorder does that.
03:27:13	LinusN	it's a hardware "feature"
03:27:28	scott666	it only happens occasionally for me
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03:27:40	LinusN	"feature" == bug
03:27:45	arspy87	hey all
03:27:50	LinusN	arspy87: yo
03:28:03	kurzhaarrocker	LinusN: does that collide with the rockbox fading?
03:28:09	LinusN	what fading?
03:28:17	kurzhaarrocker	fading light
03:28:28	LinusN	we can't do that, never have
03:28:33	kurzhaarrocker	lol!
03:29:16	MT	mm
03:29:36	midknight2k3	we do that
03:29:39	midknight2k3	or its a hardware bug
03:29:48	LinusN	as i said
03:29:49	midknight2k3	i see it almost all the time i turn off the backlight
03:29:49	arspy87	you mean fading backlight?
03:29:51	LinusN	"feature" == bug
03:29:54	midknight2k3	yeah
03:29:55	midknight2k3	lol
03:29:57	midknight2k3	yes as
03:30:04	MT	i may give the company in korea an email, ask them what chips it uses, and ask wether they would assist me with hw details
03:30:05	LinusN	arspy87: yes
03:30:06	arspy87	led or el?
03:30:27	midknight2k3	led
03:30:27	Laurent_	how large is the uncompressed rockbox firmware ?
03:30:29	midknight2k3	of course
03:30:40	MT	not 1.8MB :)
03:30:49	LinusN	Laurent_: rockbox isn't compressed
03:30:54	arspy87	oht hen fading could work on led
03:30:58	midknight2k3	SSHHHH
03:31:25	arspy87	ok mk :D
03:31:35	Laurent_	i read on the web site that the flash held two images archos and rockbox thanks to compression ?
03:31:43	midknight2k3	no
03:31:45	LinusN	Laurent_: if you flash it, yes
03:31:47	midknight2k3	just bigger than needed
03:32:01	LinusN	but ajbrec.ajz is uncompressed
03:32:24	Laurent_	and what's its size ?
03:32:30	LinusN	my recorder image is about 160kbytes
03:32:51	Laurent_	ok, the gmini's about 240kbytes
03:33:01	Laurent_	not much bigger
03:33:07	MT	ot, but does scrambling add much to the size?
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03:33:48	LinusN	MT: it may add up to 3 bytes, because of alignment
03:34:02	scott666	lol
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03:35:49	MT	ooooo
03:35:50	kurzhaarrocker	Is the rest of the rockbox core team on vacation?
03:36:03	MT	they have a newer version that can play ogg
03:36:12	scott666	really?
03:36:16	midknight2k3	WHO
03:36:17	midknight2k3	WHAT
03:36:18	midknight2k3	WHERE
03:36:19	Laurent_	the gmini firmware seems more structured than the ajz's
03:36:25	midknight2k3	MT who
03:36:29	MT	http://www.xclef.com/pro08_e.htm
03:36:46	midknight2k3	xclef SUCKS
03:37:03	Laurent_	with 4 chars chunk-headers-like words
03:37:08	MT	great attitude
03:37:13	scott666	midknight2k3: YOU suck
03:37:25	midknight2k3	i try to keep that secret :d jk
03:37:53	scott666	and so does the karma :-�
03:38:06	midknight2k3	IT DOES NOT
03:38:26	Laurent_	key kids ;)
03:38:33	midknight2k3	what
03:38:37	midknight2k3	why do you say that all the time lol
03:38:44	Laurent_	guess why ;)
03:39:51	Laurent_	well, got to go, I must wake up in about 5hours so it'll be wiser if I get asleep before that
03:39:56	midknight2k3	night
03:40:22	LinusN	kurzhaarrocker: vacation, yes
03:40:28	kurzhaarrocker	dream nicely
03:40:42	Laurent_	i'll try :)
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03:51:09	c0utta	hey linus ?
03:51:42	LinusN	yo
03:51:53	c0utta	you mentioned yesterday about tracking down the next shuffled track using the resume info
03:52:02	c0utta	how would i do this ?
03:52:11	LinusN	with a sector editor
03:52:39	LinusN	you have a crashing box right now?
03:52:57	c0utta	not right now - it's been running all night without a problem
03:53:20	c0utta	haven't used a sector editor since norton utilities
03:53:44	MT	havent used a sector editor since Knife ST :)
03:53:47	LinusN	what were the symptoms?
03:53:51	MT	(and thats dating me)
03:53:55	midknight2k3	never used a sector editor
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03:58:03	c0utta	LinusN: symptoms were hanging when loading the next track on a playlist
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04:00:21	LinusN	ah
04:00:39	LinusN	and you have resume set to "ask"?
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04:02:02	BC\|code	would anyone object to a patch which asked "resume?" on the logo screen when you first switch on?
04:02:31	c0utta	LinusN: originally, i had resume=yes
04:02:55	midknight2k3	ooh
04:02:58	midknight2k3	i want to see BC\|code
04:03:10	LinusN	BC\|code: on the logo? why?
04:03:12	c0utta	this would load the track OK, but it would then hang with the LED flashing
04:03:26	midknight2k3	it'd look nice
04:03:38	LinusN	c0utta: load ok?
04:04:08	LinusN	still empty wps, yes?
04:04:23	BC\|code	LinusN: I kinda like seeing the Rockbox Loading screen, but it flashed but for a brief second and sits on some "ugly" text ...if we asked "resume?" over the Rockbox Logo (maybe near the top or bottom) then we would get to look at the Rockbox logo while we decided
04:04:41	midknight2k3	yeah
04:04:46	midknight2k3	put it at the bottom
04:04:47	BC\|code	LinusN: just aesthetics
04:04:51	midknight2k3	where the version usually is
04:05:03	midknight2k3	change version to "resume" when booted
04:05:04	BC\|code	no, specifically NOT ovre the version number!!
04:05:09	midknight2k3	oh
04:05:10	midknight2k3	ok
04:05:15	midknight2k3	well
04:05:22	midknight2k3	whatever
04:05:34	scott666	coud you answer at that point?
04:05:49	midknight2k3	er
04:05:52	midknight2k3	i'd guess yes.
04:06:13	c0utta	LinusN: no, wps was OK. It would sit at (eg) 2:30/2:35 and the LED would flash repeatedly
04:06:25	c0utta	turn OFF, then restart and it would do the same thing
04:06:44	c0utta	stuck at the same point
04:07:31	LinusN	you could create a wps that showed the file name
04:07:57	c0utta	i want to know the NEXT filename, as this is the one that is not loading
04:08:22	kurzhaarrocker	doesn't the playlist viewer help here?
04:09:08	kurzhaarrocker	oh it's a plugin and wants to access the hd -> out of option
04:09:19	c0utta	exactly...
04:09:39	c0utta	i currently have the playlist viewer up permanently
04:13:47	c0utta	i want to see what the next track will be, because LinusN thought it may be ID3 tag related
04:14:22	kurzhaarrocker	yes, I remember the mail
04:14:22	Sebulba02	play your files in alphabetical order
04:14:48	kurzhaarrocker	But thats boring!
04:15:11	Sebulba02	but you can easily tell which one is next
04:15:20	c0utta	with 6809 tracks it'll take forever
04:15:25	midknight2k3	lol
04:15:39	Sebulba02	random would take even longer
04:15:50	scott666	not neccessarily
04:16:10	c0utta	on random it has happened as early as track 4, and I have had 14, 20 & 26
04:16:15	Sebulba02	true, but 50% of the time it would
04:17:12	kurzhaarrocker	That's fine! If 50% of the time takes longer you have more time!
04:17:25	Sebulba02	heh
04:40:33	BC\|code	first off my praise to whoever made printf() redirect to the bash console in win32sim :)
04:41:10	BC\|code	second ...does anybody know at what "dB" we achieve LINE level output from the headphone socket?
04:56:41	LinusN	time to sleep, nite all
04:56:47	midknight2k3	nite
04:56:47	midknight2k3	thanks
04:56:51	midknight2k3	done tonight
04:56:59		Part LinusN
04:57:42	BC\|code	ni-i-i-te
04:57:52	BC\|code	did you finish it MK
04:57:53	midknight2k3	too late
04:57:55	midknight2k3	almos!
04:57:59	midknight2k3	it saves and loads
04:58:09	BC\|code	should hope so :)
04:58:10	midknight2k3	but ill be back in 15 mins to complete it
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05:27:35	midknight2k3	bAXK
05:27:52	BC\|code	;)
05:27:57	midknight2k3	back*
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05:32:39	midknight2k3	so, bluechip, what's going on?
05:33:00	BC\|code	sorting out my new audio interface
05:33:22	midknight2k3	for ajbrec?
05:33:25	BC\|code	yep
05:33:33	midknight2k3	OOH WHAT
05:33:36	midknight2k3	I'M ALL EARS
05:33:53	BC\|code	it's for audio techies and enthusiasts really
05:34:02	midknight2k3	whats it about
05:34:19	BC\|code	FULL graphical control over ALL dec regs
05:34:40	BC\|code	dac
05:34:42	midknight2k3	aww
05:34:45	midknight2k3	booo
05:34:52	midknight2k3	what about your resume on logo thing
05:34:53	midknight2k3	lol
05:35:17	BC\|code	got no answer - prolly wont bother
05:35:26	midknight2k3	nono
05:35:30	midknight2k3	i love the idea
05:36:08	BC\|code	well it will not be until this is done anyway
05:36:29	midknight2k3	bc is a good coder.
05:36:38	BC\|code	lol
05:38:41	BC\|code	lol - what is (-5)%8 ???
05:38:54	midknight2k3	er
05:38:56	midknight2k3	60?
05:39:14	BC\|code	for all I know
05:39:16	BC\|code	brb
05:42:48	BC\|code	k
05:42:55	midknight2k3	?
05:45:28	BC\|code	so, is my reward for helping to see the result?
05:45:37	midknight2k3	the clock?
05:45:46	BC\|code	indeed
05:45:50	midknight2k3	of course!
05:45:56	midknight2k3	i'm polishing up a few things
05:46:21	BC\|code	not your love muscle i hope
05:47:08	midknight2k3	erm
05:48:01	midknight2k3	let me finish
05:48:05	midknight2k3	tidying up MY CLOCK
05:48:36	BC\|code	ohhh cLock
05:48:46	midknight2k3	clock. yes.
05:48:55	BC\|code	lol
05:49:08	BC\|code	you can tell this code is starting to annoy me - lol
05:49:26	midknight2k3	lol
05:50:51	midknight2k3	OF COURSE
05:50:54	midknight2k3	IT JUST HIT ME
05:51:26	midknight2k3	OMG
05:51:29	midknight2k3	BEST IDEA EVER
05:52:01	BC\|code	scratch'n'sniff porno mags?
05:53:13	midknight2k3	lmao
05:53:14	midknight2k3	no
05:53:38	midknight2k3	well
05:53:42	midknight2k3	remember i was gonna do off screen
05:54:03	midknight2k3	where play would be save, f1 would be never and f2 would be always save.. off again would be exit w/o saving?
05:54:45	BC\|code	im sooooo confused
05:55:05	BC\|code	I'd personally just do "always save" and "reset to defaults" and leave it at that
05:55:42	midknight2k3	ok. at clock, you hit off. then it asks you whether you want to either: "Play = save" "Off = don't save" "F1 = never save" or "f2 = always save"
05:55:47	midknight2k3	that was my original idea
05:56:38	BC\|code	Users tend to like "simple"
05:56:56	BC\|code	its all too easy to think like a techie when you are programming
05:56:57	midknight2k3	i didnt say i wanted that way anymore
05:57:00	midknight2k3	OH FORGET IT
05:57:06	BC\|code	ok
05:57:11	BC\|code	forget what?
05:57:13	*	midknight2k3 huffs
05:57:21	midknight2k3	the whole explanation idea
05:57:29	midknight2k3	what was i thinking when i decided to tell you my idea
05:57:29	midknight2k3	lol
05:57:45	BC\|code	sorry I didn't agree this time :(
05:58:01	midknight2k3	no
05:58:04	midknight2k3	THATS NOT THE IDEA
05:58:07	midknight2k3	that was my OLD concept
05:58:11	midknight2k3	my NEW one is great
05:58:17	midknight2k3	SIMPLE yet POWERFUL
05:58:24	BC\|code	then I'm glad I didn't agree this time :)
05:58:28	midknight2k3	lol
05:58:32	midknight2k3	heres my NEW idea
05:58:34	midknight2k3	ok
05:58:50	midknight2k3	on start, load settings. if not exist, revert to original (default). ok thats out of the way
05:59:07	midknight2k3	now saving. OFF will exit and save. if for some reason you dont wanna save, F1+Off will just exit.
05:59:12	midknight2k3	Eh? EH? Good ideas?
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05:59:55	midknight2k3	and if you think its not a good idea dont tell me
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06:00:58	BC\|code	I think it's a great idea that could be made even better
06:01:14	midknight2k3	how.
06:02:25	BC\|code	instead of f1+save ...have f1 as reset to defaults ...then you can either F1, OFF or F1+OFF for effectively the same result
06:02:47	midknight2k3	er
06:02:55	midknight2k3	f1+off is exit w/o saving
06:02:59	midknight2k3	off is exit with saving
06:03:14	midknight2k3	in other words you mainly wanna save
06:03:25	midknight2k3	if you dont for some reason f1+off will not save but exit
06:03:36	BC\|code	like all other options on jukebox ...consistency
06:03:47	BC\|code	"volume" never asks "save or no save"
06:04:12	midknight2k3	lmao
06:04:14	midknight2k3	no
06:04:15	midknight2k3	it wont ask
06:04:19	midknight2k3	are you listening
06:04:28	BC\|code	no, im watching - lol
06:04:38	midknight2k3	at the clock. Press off and it will save and exit automatically
06:04:47	BC\|code	that would be my favourite
06:04:51	midknight2k3	AT THE CLOCK. press f1 and off and it will exit w/o saving.
06:04:55	midknight2k3	no off screen
06:04:58	midknight2k3	no complications
06:05:02	BC\|code	yep :)
06:05:04	midknight2k3	simple off to save and leave.
06:05:06	BC\|code	best idea so far
06:05:07	midknight2k3	thats my idea.
06:05:18	midknight2k3	and f1+off in the off chance you dont wanna save
06:05:38	BC\|code	secret techie options ...love em
06:06:06	midknight2k3	yea
06:06:12	midknight2k3	i oughta make an easter egg!
06:06:24	BC\|code	ALL code should have easter eggs
06:06:26	midknight2k3	in f1 screen if you hit on it says "hey stupid"
06:06:32	midknight2k3	i think ill add it in
06:06:43	BC\|code	insults in code will stop it from being released :(
06:06:57	midknight2k3	ok how about "hey baby!"
06:07:04	BC\|code	"boo" is an old favourite
06:07:08	midknight2k3	LOL
06:07:12	midknight2k3	ill add it in
06:07:27	BC\|code	but it should only work when certain options are active
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06:07:48	BC\|code	oooooohhhhhhh mystery guest
06:08:27	midknight2k3	what
06:08:28	Guest1	newbie trying to get archos recoder+usb2 on redhat8 working
06:08:36	midknight2k3	lol
06:08:39	midknight2k3	bc: like?
06:08:40	midknight2k3	hrm
06:08:43	midknight2k3	lets think of a good one
06:08:59	BC\|code	Guest1: the archos is simply a standard USB drive if that helps
06:09:02	midknight2k3	case BUTTON_ON \| BUTTON_F2 \| BUTTON DOWN:
06:09:05	midknight2k3	hows that lol
06:09:12	BC\|code	lol
06:09:13	midknight2k3	then splash "Boo!"
06:09:20	midknight2k3	or
06:09:23	midknight2k3	"Hey retard"
06:09:27	midknight2k3	or "SDD"
06:09:29	midknight2k3	YEAH "sdd"
06:09:35	BC\|code	"ouch!"
06:09:38	Guest1	the usb1 works but usb 2 doesnt.
06:09:57	BC\|code	i think all our linux guys are in bed :(
06:10:07	midknight2k3	yes
06:10:09	midknight2k3	hisl;dlk
06:10:14	midknight2k3	OO SORRY BLUECHIP
06:10:29	BC\|code	forgiven
06:10:44	midknight2k3	lol sorry
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06:11:08	BC\|code	bye!
06:12:58	midknight2k3	lmao
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06:13:51	arspy87	hey i'm back
06:14:01	midknight2k3	SD
06:14:01	arspy87	lighting fires is so difficult
06:14:02	midknight2k3	er
06:14:14	midknight2k3	uhm
06:14:17	midknight2k3	err
06:14:27	midknight2k3	sd = standard deviation mode
06:14:31	midknight2k3	on calculators ;)
06:14:33	BC\|code	use cigarettes
06:14:35	BC\|code	lol
06:14:35	arspy87	:)
06:14:42	arspy87	lol BC
06:14:54	arspy87	i'll stick with duraflame, it's so much easier ;)
06:15:08	BC\|code	duraflame - that sounds cool - what's that?
06:15:15	midknight2k3	er
06:15:19	midknight2k3	gas powered logs...
06:15:23	midknight2k3	by any chance?
06:15:28	arspy87	you know, really east to light fire logs?
06:15:31	arspy87	for fireplaces...
06:15:31	BC\|code	did one of those earlier
06:15:37	BC\|code	oh righty
06:15:48	BC\|code	that's cheating - mix your own from kitchen chemicals
06:15:57	DBUG	Enqueued KICK arspy87
06:15:57	arspy87	yeah, for the past 3 days ive tried,99 to light a wood fire but it's so annoying to do...,99
06:16:01	arspy87	lmao!
06:16:03	midknight2k3	BC\|code: get some sleep. you need it.
06:16:41	BC\|code	loosely balled newspaper covered in wood chipppings/fragments coveed in logs :)
06:17:00	midknight2k3	get some sleepppp!!!
06:17:11	BC\|code	can use TIGHT newspaper instead of cood chips if its easier
06:17:15	BC\|code	I am
06:17:23	arspy87	yeah BC, perfecting my strategy :)
06:17:54	arspy87	bottom to top: newspaper, sticks, small logs, big log(s)
06:18:02	BC\|code	:)
06:18:43	arspy87	i was getting irritated that it wouldnt work so i started cutting off cardboard from my duraflame log box and putting that it
06:18:45	arspy87	in*
06:19:00	arspy87	didn't work very well ;)
06:19:15	BC\|code	LOL
06:19:17	BC\|code	brilliant
06:19:26	midknight2k3	why making fire, as?
06:19:31	BC\|code	why not!?
06:19:38	BC\|code	got any weedkiller?
06:19:43	arspy87	because it's freezsing in my house and it takes forever for the heat to come up
06:19:51	arspy87	lol, probably in the garage or something
06:19:53	midknight2k3	as: longer than 5 minutes?
06:20:01	arspy87	yes longer, more like 30 minutes
06:20:07	midknight2k3	get a new heater
06:20:10	arspy87	plus fire is fun
06:20:12	BC\|code	if you have any sodium chlorate weed killer you can get the fire going in seconds
06:20:21	midknight2k3	lmao
06:20:22	arspy87	BC: lol i'll bet!
06:20:41	midknight2k3	and also if you have a TV
06:20:47	arspy87	ha
06:20:50	midknight2k3	its not really worth much but fun to see shatter
06:20:53	BC\|code	burns at about 350^C ...add sugar and it generates it's own oxygen and will even burn under water - lol
06:20:59	midknight2k3	yeah RIgHT
06:21:02	arspy87	LOL
06:21:31	BC\|code	MK: as I often say ....don't trust me ...try it ;)
06:21:42	midknight2k3	no thx bluechip
06:21:43	BC\|code	the ducks get really pissed off - lol
06:21:57	midknight2k3	lol
06:21:59	arspy87	wait, BC = bluechip?
06:22:02	midknight2k3	dur
06:22:02	midknight2k3	dum
06:22:03	midknight2k3	DEE
06:22:12	midknight2k3	lol
06:22:16	BC\|code	sorry, yes
06:22:21	arspy87	:) hello again
06:22:24	midknight2k3	lmao
06:22:28	BC\|code	hi spy
06:24:03	arspy87	i saw an ajbrec on etronics for 289 - is it cheaper anywhere?
06:24:14	arspy87	oops, it was actually a ajbrecfm
06:24:28	midknight2k3	lol
06:24:36	midknight2k3	DONT YOU STEAL MY TERMINOLOGY
06:24:45	arspy87	my bad midk
06:24:51	midknight2k3	remember your own
06:24:55	midknight2k3	"ajbfmrec"
06:25:14	arspy87	ok, ajbfmrec then!
06:25:29	midknight2k3	bc: so "boo" for the easter egg? lol
06:25:39	midknight2k3	i kinda like the concept of random words
06:25:42	midknight2k3	like i used to do
06:25:49	midknight2k3	such as "adfahrcfj!!"
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06:30:57	midknight2k3	asd
06:31:00	midknight2k3	errr
06:31:11	midknight2k3	asdf = auto sync device
06:31:14	midknight2k3	err asd*
06:32:57	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
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06:33:08	midknight2k3	HA HA
06:33:09	midknight2k3	TRICKED YOU
06:34:57	midknight2k3	hi bluechip
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06:35:04	arspy87	sry bout that
06:49:15	midknight2k3	bc?
06:49:19	BC\|code	uh huh
06:49:28	midknight2k3	just saying hi
06:49:38	arspy87	hi
06:49:42	midknight2k3	STFU AS
06:49:55	arspy87	yipe
06:52:47	arspy87	so why the name change BC?
06:52:53	midknight2k3	STFU AS
06:53:04	midknight2k3	cant you tell
06:53:06	midknight2k3	hes coding
06:53:12	BC\|code	to let people know that I am coding and may not read everything
06:53:14	midknight2k3	hence. BC\|Code
06:53:23	arspy87	ahh, makes sense
06:54:21	BC\|code	mk's been a top class bloke and kindly not typed random stuff ...which means that when I look up, I can see what has been said, and it has not scolled off the top :)
06:54:34	arspy87	:)
06:54:39	midknight2k3	lol bc
06:54:43	midknight2k3	am i better than top_bloke?
06:55:45	arspy87	well, i g2g it's getting late here
06:55:51	midknight2k3	NITE NITE AS
06:55:59	midknight2k3	and remember: asdf = something else
06:56:01	BC\|code	nite dude
06:56:06	arspy87	nite
06:56:08	midknight2k3	evil duck!
06:56:10		Part arspy87
06:56:48	*	midknight2k3 refrains from typing pointless random characters
06:57:22	midknight2k3	its hard!
06:57:25	*	BC\|code tips hat in respect
06:57:33	midknight2k3	i cant stop my fingers
06:57:37	midknight2k3	they wont move away
06:57:42	BC\|code	need to do more coding
06:57:46	midknight2k3	get away from there i say!
06:57:58	midknight2k3	i want to bust something lol
06:57:59	midknight2k3	ok me too
06:58:05	BC\|code	being happy is simply a matter of finding a way not be be sad :)
06:58:05	midknight2k3	let me finish this crap clock and be done
06:58:11	midknight2k3	yeah whatever.
06:58:30	BC\|code	wisdom is only for the wise
06:59:02	midknight2k3	uhuh
06:59:23	midknight2k3	I DONT BELIEVE IT
06:59:31	midknight2k3	my clock ROCK is 5.03KB
06:59:46	midknight2k3	i watched it grow byte by byte since it was 400bytes
06:59:52	midknight2k3	i feel proud.
06:59:57	midknight2k3	i mean, whatever.
06:59:59	BC\|code	:) SO YOU SHOULD
07:00
07:00:05	BC\|code	(coding hex again)
07:00:10	midknight2k3	lol
07:07:59	BC\|code	got winsim running?
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07:08:08	midknight2k3	me?
07:08:18	\|404notfound	um, I just found out about Rockbox, but I've got a question
07:08:20	BC\|code	yeah, think it's just u & me left
07:08:25	\|404notfound	anybody who can help?
07:08:28	midknight2k3	lol
07:08:32	BC\|code	go4it 404
07:08:36	midknight2k3	\|404notfound: ?
07:08:49	\|404notfound	I have a Jukebox Recorder 20, and I'm trying to flash the firmware, but I can't find firmware_rec.bin
07:09:07	\|404notfound	I looked in the zip file and it wasn't there
07:09:14	midknight2k3	there's a link in the docs
07:09:16	midknight2k3	it must be
07:09:28	BC\|code	mines' not flashable, but I thought the Flash code was stored in a UCL
07:09:33	midknight2k3	you looked in flash_rec.zip and it wasn't there?
07:09:37	midknight2k3	BC\|code: no
07:09:43	midknight2k3	first flash is a BIN
07:09:54	*	midknight2k3 feels sorry for bluechip
07:09:54	BC\|code	righty
07:10:13	\|404notfound	doh
07:10:15	midknight2k3	\|404notfound: it should be there
07:10:19	\|404notfound	I was looking at the download section zip
07:10:22	\|404notfound	eh, I feel stupid now
07:10:28	midknight2k3	lol
07:10:31	BC\|code	recorder version 1 yes?
07:10:34	\|404notfound	yeah
07:10:36	midknight2k3	good luck
07:10:41	\|404notfound	yeah, thanks
07:10:46	BC\|code	http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash/flash_rec.zip
07:10:48	midknight2k3	:D
07:11:12	BC\|code	http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash/flash_rec.zip
07:11:18	midknight2k3	lol
07:11:31	BC\|code	sorry, try that second one again
07:11:32	BC\|code	http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html
07:11:38	midknight2k3	maybe if we paste it >10 times the pasting god will come and give us eternal life
07:12:21	\|404notfound	yeah, I got it
07:16:34	BC\|code	so, mk, does my Q not get an A?
07:17:02	midknight2k3	what Q?
07:17:08	BC\|code	nm
07:17:17	midknight2k3	ooh what q
07:17:22	*	midknight2k3 looks for it
07:17:37	midknight2k3	ohh sim
07:17:47	midknight2k3	do i have it running? no
07:17:53	BC\|code	ok np
07:17:54	midknight2k3	you wanted me to test your patch>
07:18:06	BC\|code	was gonna ask for your opinion on the new interface
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07:18:37	midknight2k3	i will
07:18:38	midknight2k3	where
07:18:38	midknight2k3	what
07:18:42	midknight2k3	i want to try it
07:18:49	midknight2k3	at patches page?
07:18:49	midknight2k3	where
07:19:15	midknight2k3	what for
07:19:16	midknight2k3	ohh
07:19:24	midknight2k3	testing on box?
07:20:10	midknight2k3	sec
07:20:51	BC\|code	get another dvd....
07:20:55	midknight2k3	?
07:21:09	BC\|code	watching films :)
07:21:13	midknight2k3	lol
07:21:30	midknight2k3	IllInstr?
07:21:35	midknight2k3	is this to be tested on sim or something?
07:21:41	midknight2k3	or what
07:21:47	BC\|code	lol
07:21:53	midknight2k3	...
07:22:02	midknight2k3	i dont get it
07:22:06	midknight2k3	its for archos?
07:22:18	BC\|code	u running a sim?
07:22:26	BC\|code	winsim
07:22:26	midknight2k3	should i?
07:22:30	midknight2k3	its just for winsim?
07:22:45	BC\|code	yes
07:22:48	midknight2k3	ok
07:23:14	BC\|code	waste of time developing on the jukebox
07:23:21	midknight2k3	why?
07:23:52	BC\|code	time
07:25:27	midknight2k3	who
07:25:28	midknight2k3	whoa*
07:25:29	midknight2k3	nea
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07:25:51	DarthWufei	Hmm, I can't get this "avitoyuv" thing to work heh
07:26:08	midknight2k3	DarthWufei: run from CMD prompt
07:26:14	DarthWufei	Oh
07:26:17	midknight2k3	BC\|code: what do you do?
07:26:21	midknight2k3	what's it for
07:27:23	BC\|code	??
07:27:37	midknight2k3	what does it do*
07:28:16	BC\|code	hmm, if it's not obvious there is a BIG problem
07:28:28	midknight2k3	does it emulate the mas?
07:29:10	BC\|code	I will write the docs for it soon
07:29:27	midknight2k3	does it? sorry, i'm not getting it
07:29:46	BC\|code	its a techie toy
07:29:54	midknight2k3	for?
07:29:59	midknight2k3	ohh
07:30:05	midknight2k3	the mas regread stuff?
07:32:55	midknight2k3	????
07:33:19	BC\|code	was gonna ask for your opinion on the new interface
07:33:20	BC\|code	????
07:33:32	midknight2k3	i dont know what it does exactly
07:33:35	DarthWufei	Is it done ?_?
07:33:37	midknight2k3	but it looks very nice
07:33:41	BC\|code	then it sux
07:33:42	DarthWufei	Heh
07:33:46	midknight2k3	lol
07:33:49	DarthWufei	It didn't go back to command prompt
07:33:49	midknight2k3	sorry
07:33:51	DarthWufei	does mean it's done?
07:33:58	DarthWufei	Usually that means busy :X
07:33:59	midknight2k3	you open cmd prompt
07:34:06	DarthWufei	I did that
07:34:08	DarthWufei	and executed it.
07:34:10	midknight2k3	then you navigate to the folder
07:34:14	midknight2k3	then run it like it wants
07:34:17	DarthWufei	I passed that
07:34:25	midknight2k3	then wait until it's done when it lets you type in commands
07:34:31	midknight2k3	after it hangs for a min or so
07:34:31	DarthWufei	Alrighty.
07:34:32	DarthWufei	Thanks.
07:34:35	midknight2k3	yeah
07:34:42	midknight2k3	just wait till it gets back to normal
07:34:46	midknight2k3	then do halftone
07:34:49	DarthWufei	I'm not that great with DOS-esque navigation
07:34:55	midknight2k3	i am
07:35:00	midknight2k3	cd .. , thats me
07:35:01	midknight2k3	cd
07:35:04	midknight2k3	i know cd
07:35:06	midknight2k3	and....
07:35:09	midknight2k3	cd
07:35:15	midknight2k3	and.. xcopya
07:35:18	midknight2k3	xcopy*
07:35:19	midknight2k3	and dir
07:35:34	DarthWufei	heh
07:35:49	midknight2k3	ock jackpot.map powermgmt.o
07:35:49	midknight2k3	ap jackpot.rock recorder
07:35:49	midknight2k3	ock kernel.o rockbox.bin
07:35:49	midknight2k3	map lang.c rockbox.elf
07:35:49	midknight2k3	rock lang.h rockbox.map
07:36:26	DarthWufei	is the yuv larger or smaller than the avi?
07:37:04	DarthWufei	Larger.
07:37:10	DarthWufei	This is taking a while...
07:37:11	DarthWufei	heh
07:37:22	DarthWufei	Well thanks
07:38:05	midknight2k3	np
07:39:19	midknight2k3	lmao
07:39:31	midknight2k3	22:38:12 \| -ChanServ- [#perl] Don't ask to ask, just ask, preferably politely.
07:41:29	midknight2k3	afad. sorry.
07:41:54	midknight2k3	aJBREC!
07:42:46	midknight2k3	GOD!
07:42:47	midknight2k3	ITS BUGGING ME#
07:42:52	midknight2k3	WHAT IS THAT PLUGIN
07:43:20	BC\|code	useless if it is not obvious!
07:43:36	midknight2k3	then its useless
07:43:39	midknight2k3	just wanna know
07:44:43	BC\|code	do you really not have a clue?
07:44:51	midknight2k3	mas emulation?
07:45:23	BC\|code	comapre it to "sound settings" and see if you can spot the similarities
07:45:42	midknight2k3	graphical sound properties?
07:46:36	midknight2k3	lmao
07:47:29	midknight2k3	is it?
07:47:34	midknight2k3	wasnt lmao'ing at you
07:47:55	BC\|code	sortof - nm - too much effort to spend hours descrbing what SHOULD have been obvious
07:48:04	midknight2k3	GOD ITS BUGGING ME
07:48:06	midknight2k3	JUST TELL ME
07:48:21	midknight2k3	mas codec graphical readout?
07:48:23	BC\|code	wish i'd never sent it now
07:48:35	BC\|code	oh well, we live and learn
07:48:50	midknight2k3	fine. be a jerk.
07:48:55	BC\|code	should do what you do, and refuse to share until I am finished
07:49:02	BC\|code	I've learned from the best
07:49:15	midknight2k3	mean. person. right. here.
07:49:29	BC\|code	yes, I should mirror you
07:50:01	BC\|code	but you will need to spend three hours helping me first ....then I can refuse to show you my work :)
07:50:21	BC\|code	darn me - I got it ALL the wrong way around - lol
07:50:35	midknight2k3	cant you just tell me what it is
07:50:50	BC\|code	apparently not in a way that you understand, no
07:50:56	DarthWufei	Does anyone know of another program to change avi to yuv?
07:51:01	DarthWufei	This thing crashed about half way through
07:51:03	midknight2k3	there is none
07:51:17	DarthWufei	Baka
07:51:20	BC\|code	DarthWufei: it is one of a kind
07:51:59	DarthWufei	Okie dokie
07:52:06	midknight2k3	sdd
07:52:09	DarthWufei	Maybe it won't crash this time then
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08:03:56	DarthWufei	Wha
08:04:02	DarthWufei	Does it not handle long videos?
08:04:11	midknight2k3	how long
08:04:24	midknight2k3	it also needs to be sized to 112x64
08:04:27	DarthWufei	1:12
08:04:28	DarthWufei	It is.
08:04:31	DarthWufei	and no audio..
08:04:39	midknight2k3	1 hour 12 mins?
08:04:41	DarthWufei	No
08:04:47	DarthWufei	Minute, 12 seconds
08:04:52	midknight2k3	thast not long
08:04:57	midknight2k3	what did you put in the cmd prompt?
08:05:02	midknight2k3	HELP
08:05:08	midknight2k3	clock3.c:489: parse error before "else"
08:05:14	midknight2k3	this error keeps staying
08:05:20	midknight2k3	help BC\|code
08:05:40	BC\|code	bak - what?
08:05:44	midknight2k3	clock3.c:489: parse error before "else"
08:05:46	DarthWufei	avitoyuv filename.avi filename.yuv
08:05:47	midknight2k3	grr
08:05:59	midknight2k3	well you need to put the filename instead of "filename"
08:06:02	midknight2k3	right
08:06:15	DarthWufei	No I get it to work, my problem is
08:06:24	DarthWufei	It crashes half way through the conversion process
08:06:33	DarthWufei	I get a runtime error
08:06:44	midknight2k3	odd
08:06:54	BC\|code	is the error msg in the source code or a standard .exe error?
08:07:03	midknight2k3	in BASH
08:07:19	BC\|code	DarthWufei: is the error msg in the source code or a standard .exe error?
08:07:25	BC\|code	mk: missing ;
08:07:27	midknight2k3	oh lol
08:07:32	midknight2k3	i dont see one
08:07:34	DarthWufei	source code I believe, let me try and get it again to make sure
08:07:39	DarthWufei	Give me a few minutes
08:09:03	midknight2k3	GR
08:09:06	midknight2k3	I CANT FIND IT
08:12:25	midknight2k3	HELP lol
08:12:26	midknight2k3	ixzv;o
08:12:39	BC\|code	how?
08:12:44	midknight2k3	i dunno
08:13:07	BC\|code	<shrugs<
08:13:43	BC\|code	i could hypnotise you and teach you how to quiet the voice in your head so you can focus easily
08:13:50	midknight2k3	please
08:13:51	midknight2k3	do
08:14:12	midknight2k3	ILL JUST REDO IT
08:14:49	DarthWufei	It's probably just the video file or something
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08:15:00	scott666	,99,01sleep me scott go night,99
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08:15:42	BC\|code	DarthWufei; you;re the first problem i've heard., so maybe the video file, yes - did you try another?
08:16:11	DarthWufei	I'm about to
08:26:55	midknight2k3	GR
08:27:00	midknight2k3	i want to RIP MY HAIR OUT
08:27:52	midknight2k3	oo
08:27:53	midknight2k3	i got it
08:27:56	midknight2k3	i think i fixed it
08:29:58	BC\|code	well done
08:30:32	midknight2k3	it was hard
08:30:37	midknight2k3	i had to delete all my code
08:30:38	midknight2k3	and stuff
08:30:58	BC\|code	yes "format" tends to solve most compile errors
08:31:05	midknight2k3	lol
08:31:20	BC\|code	repeat after me ....rm -r *
08:31:21	BC\|code	lol
08:31:37	midknight2k3	lol
08:35:16	DarthWufei	Bah still get it
08:35:26	DarthWufei	"Abnormal program termination"
08:35:35	midknight2k3	vcx
08:35:50	BC\|code	:( - need to try when the hard-core guys are online
08:36:05	BC\|code	how big is the smallest file you tried?
08:36:30	DarthWufei	3 mb
08:36:42	BC\|code	send it over if you like - i'll try it here
08:38:15	DarthWufei	MOre like 3.34 :p
08:38:16	DarthWufei	lol
08:38:28	BC\|code	nice fast line you have :)
08:38:34	BC\|code	i only get 16K up
08:39:13	DarthWufei	Thanks
08:39:32	DarthWufei	I can't wait to try it out in some online GameCube fun
08:40:14	BC\|code	did you hear they've cracked the cube?
08:41:25	DarthWufei	Yeah
08:41:32	DarthWufei	Took them long enough though
08:41:54	midknight2k3	?/?
08:41:58	midknight2k3	what code
08:42:14	midknight2k3	what cube*
08:42:15	midknight2k3	er
08:42:18	midknight2k3	how
08:42:20	midknight2k3	what
08:42:23	midknight2k3	why
08:44:47	DarthWufei	Both YUV files end at 11,232 KB
08:45:05	BC\|code	i notice there is no source code for avi2yuv
08:45:50	DarthWufei	Heh yeah
08:46:00	midknight2k3	what
08:46:04	midknight2k3	what about the Cube
08:46:05	midknight2k3	cracked
08:46:06	midknight2k3	how
08:46:10	midknight2k3	for why
08:46:13	midknight2k3	yielding what
08:47:32	DarthWufei	I heard about it somewhere, but I dunno where
08:48:35	DarthWufei	Someone seems to have devides a way to save game data via the GC's ram and the BBA
08:48:38	DarthWufei	Or something
08:48:51	DarthWufei	http://www.cdfreaks.com/news2.php?ID=8209
08:48:52	midknight2k3	odd
08:48:55	BC\|code	lol - nice one :)
08:48:58	DarthWufei	Not a reliable news source though
08:49:04	DarthWufei	So I'm not sure
08:50:41	midknight2k3	is there a way to center text?
08:50:45	midknight2k3	for puts?
08:50:57	BC\|code	not that I know of
08:51:15	BC\|code	look at the hello-world code ...that does it
08:51:16	midknight2k3	like strlen or something
08:51:20	midknight2k3	thats splash
08:51:34	BC\|code	how does splash do it?
08:51:41	DarthWufei	Is it still converting, BC?
08:51:48	BC\|code	oh yesss
08:51:51	BC\|code	stilllllll
08:52:03	BC\|code	zzzzzz
08:55:19	BC\|code	wonder if that emulator is real
08:55:28	BC\|code	the devkit allows you to target pc
08:57:34	DarthWufei	afk
08:57:36	BC\|code	geez this app is sllllllllooooooow
08:57:37	midknight2k3	k
08:59:54	midknight2k3	afds
09:00
09:00:38	midknight2k3	ok any ideas for translating number into word?
09:00:40	midknight2k3	for date
09:00:50	BC\|code	sprintf
09:00:53	midknight2k3	for example, i want it to say "December" when the month is 12
09:01:06	midknight2k3	sprintf works for that?
09:01:16	BC\|code	declare an array of 12 elements
09:03:18	BC\|code	switch statement?
09:03:23	BC\|code	big string of if's?
09:03:27	midknight2k3	lol
09:03:29	midknight2k3	no idea
09:03:39	BC\|code	then pick one and do it
09:06:02	midknight2k3	i'm tempted for the IFs
09:06:15	BC\|code	switch is more efficient
09:07:07	midknight2k3	i dunno HOW
09:07:22	BC\|code	if it is then
09:08:05	midknight2k3	?
09:08:18	BC\|code	nm
09:08:30	midknight2k3	if it's ___ then _____
09:10:02	BC\|code	woo hooo finished....
09:11:11	midknight2k3	asfd
09:14:04	BC\|code	well, the conversion finished without crashing
09:14:43	BC\|code	the resultant file seems to be garbage thoug
09:15:18	midknight2k3	?
09:19:18	midknight2k3	how would you know
09:20:34	BC\|code	DarthWufei ...still there?
09:32:22	BC\|code	clearly not - meh
09:32:27	BC\|code	well, my bed time
09:32:33	midknight2k3	night!
09:32:36	midknight2k3	thanks for all
09:32:38	midknight2k3	:)
09:32:41	BC\|code	nite dude,
09:32:44	BC\|code	ur welcome
09:32:46	midknight2k3	itll be out tomorrow
09:32:49	midknight2k3	and committed
09:32:52	midknight2k3	then you can check it out :D
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09:37:35	DarthWufei	I'm here
09:37:41	DarthWufei	Awwwwww
09:37:43	midknight2k3	lol
09:37:45	midknight2k3	oh well
09:37:47	midknight2k3	im still here
09:37:48	midknight2k3	talk to me
09:38:14	DarthWufei	lol
09:38:31	DarthWufei	Well I best be off to bed myself
09:38:33	midknight2k3	hi dw
09:38:37	midknight2k3	aww
09:38:40	midknight2k3	you hate me.
09:38:53	DarthWufei	I don't :p
09:38:56	DarthWufei	I'm just sleepy
09:39:01	midknight2k3	lol jk ok cya
09:39:02	midknight2k3	nite
09:39:06	midknight2k3	12:45 here or so
09:39:09	midknight2k3	12:40
09:39:13	midknight2k3	am
09:39:15	DarthWufei	Night~ :p
09:39:16	DarthWufei	lol
09:39:19	midknight2k3	:D
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09:39:43	midknight2k3	err
09:39:44	midknight2k3	there?
09:39:59	midknight2k3	nm
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09:41:22	DW-Asleep	Oh one thing
09:41:31	DW-Asleep	Should I not compress avi files before converting to yuv?
09:41:36	midknight2k3	err
09:41:39	midknight2k3	compression = bad
09:41:44	midknight2k3	full frames uncompressed
09:41:48	midknight2k3	thats mayhaps the issue
09:42:10	midknight2k3	watch it we
09:42:14	midknight2k3	oops
09:42:15	midknight2k3	wtf
09:42:39	DW-Asleep	Okie
09:42:45	midknight2k3	good luck
09:42:47	midknight2k3	nite
09:43:16	DW-Asleep	night
09:48:44	DW-Asleep	Yeah that fixed it
09:48:46	DW-Asleep	thanks midknight2k3
09:48:48	DW-Asleep	I'm sos illy
09:48:50	midknight2k3	lol
09:48:52	midknight2k3	np
09:49:03	midknight2k3	prolly had some trouble decoding
09:49:58	DW-Asleep	Recommended contrast for Recorder...?
09:50:12	midknight2k3	er
09:50:15	midknight2k3	38?
09:51:39	DW-Asleep	Alright
09:51:58	DW-Asleep	Well good night, and thanks once again. Be sure to give BC my thinks if you see him... or her. Not sure.
09:52:02	DW-Asleep	thanks*
09:52:22	midknight2k3	night
09:52:26	midknight2k3	ok lol
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10:03:03	pfavr	anybody not sleeping?
10:03:12	midknight2k3	me
10:04:34	pfavr	midknight2k3: I mentioned earlier my recorder fully frains the battery when using usb - I just noticed that I have the "deep discharge" set to "yes"
10:04:39	pfavr	drains
10:04:53	midknight2k3	oh
10:05:52	pfavr	Do you know if this is the cause? Would it be nice to make the USB-screen disable the deep discharge temporarily?
10:06:06	midknight2k3	hrm
10:06:07	midknight2k3	it may be
10:06:12	midknight2k3	it may also be your batteries
10:06:56	pfavr	my batteries are new 2100mAh - the recorder can run on batteries for 15h or so
10:07:31	pfavr	but I will test with the deep discharge set to off
10:07:35	midknight2k3	oh
10:07:39	midknight2k3	yes please do
10:07:51	midknight2k3	MY CLOCK
10:07:57	midknight2k3	I THINK IT IS "DONE" !!!
10:08:09	pfavr	can I see it?
10:08:14	midknight2k3	sure!
10:08:16	midknight2k3	dcc ok?
10:08:34	pfavr	don't know, I'm new to irc
10:08:43	midknight2k3	what client?
10:08:46	pfavr	ksirc
10:08:54	midknight2k3	we can try
10:08:58	pfavr	ok
10:09:20	pfavr	it worked
10:09:36	midknight2k3	just copy that to .rockbox/rocks
10:09:38	midknight2k3	and test er out
10:09:43	midknight2k3	and gimme all your suggestions :D
10:09:45	pfavr	I'll try it
10:10:03	midknight2k3	f1 is info screen remember
10:10:19	midknight2k3	ill add a splash for that
10:10:31	midknight2k3	so when you start it it says "F1 for info" for 1 second
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10:14:04	pfavr	midknight2k3: sorry, just got an "incompatible version" message (I run RockBox 2.1 from flash)
10:14:15	midknight2k3	oh
10:14:19	midknight2k3	try a daily build
10:14:20	pfavr	midknight2k3: guess I need the CVS version right?
10:14:22	midknight2k3	that oughta do it
10:14:22	midknight2k3	yes
10:14:32	midknight2k3	hi methangas
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10:38:00	pfavr	midknight2k3: nice!
10:38:51	midknight2k3	thanks
10:38:56	midknight2k3	did you try out everything
10:39:03	midknight2k3	i just added in a second readout under digital mode
10:39:07	midknight2k3	and fixed a few lines of text
10:39:26	midknight2k3	should be committed tomorrow and in the public download :D
10:40:12	pfavr	midknight2k3: yes
10:41:56	pfavr	midknight2k3: just a sugestion: on the analog clock, if you don't show the numbers or the boarder, would it be possible to make the clock a little larger?
10:42:07	midknight2k3	hrm
10:42:16	midknight2k3	perhaps
10:42:20	pfavr	midknight2k3: probably too much work
10:42:32	midknight2k3	yes.. the size is calculated out of tables
10:42:46	midknight2k3	defining lengths at each minute
10:42:57	midknight2k3	and it does a full sweep and makes that the border
10:43:00	midknight2k3	sorta hard to explain
10:43:24	pfavr	midknight2k3: I like it as it is. The next thing would be to make the lcd-drawing functions antialised (using grey-scale) ;-)
10:43:32	midknight2k3	yeah lol
10:43:37	midknight2k3	this is it for now overall
10:43:44	midknight2k3	more updates soon - by me :D
10:44:05	pfavr	midknight2k3: cool
10:44:23	midknight2k3	i listen to my fans
10:44:27	midknight2k3	;)
10:44:58	pfavr	(in your computer?-)
10:45:12	midknight2k3	NO! my programming skills' fans :D
10:45:27	pfavr	ah, should have thought of that:-)
10:45:40	midknight2k3	lol
10:45:40	pfavr	who are they?-)
10:45:44	midknight2k3	you
10:45:48	pfavr	hehe
10:45:53	midknight2k3	and..
10:45:54	midknight2k3	er...
10:45:57	midknight2k3	maybe someone else
10:45:59	midknight2k3	if they exist
10:46:04	pfavr	probably lots of them
10:46:13	pfavr	just can't remember their names
10:46:35	midknight2k3	yes
10:46:36	midknight2k3	like track
10:46:38	midknight2k3	and bluechip
10:46:39	midknight2k3	and as
10:46:42	midknight2k3	and .. logbot
10:47:10	pfavr	A really nice thing to add: make it possible to go to the play screen from a plugin and return to the plugin without interrupting the plugin
10:47:24	midknight2k3	well
10:47:26	pfavr	that would be cool when playing games also
10:47:27	midknight2k3	my plugin saves settings
10:47:35	midknight2k3	so you can go back without losing your settings
10:47:42	pfavr	yes, that is a start
10:47:49	pfavr	:-)
10:48:00	midknight2k3	i try.
10:48:11	midknight2k3	i try VERY hard.
10:48:29	pfavr	don't know if it is possible, but it would be very nice to be able to turn down the volume while playing a game or skip to the next tune or...
10:48:48	midknight2k3	yeah
10:48:54	pfavr	just an idea
10:48:54	midknight2k3	that was actually something i was thinking of
10:48:55	midknight2k3	OH WAIT
10:48:59	midknight2k3	i had an idea too
10:49:04	pfavr	no kidding
10:49:04	midknight2k3	the settings save screen
10:49:20	midknight2k3	hows this sound - at F2, you can pick to save your settings as is, or load the default, or reset all
10:49:53	pfavr	what is the difference between reset and load the default?
10:49:59	midknight2k3	no idea
10:50:03	pfavr	sounds like feature bloat
10:50:03	midknight2k3	just sounds like more
10:50:05	pfavr	:-)
10:50:06	midknight2k3	right.
10:50:07	midknight2k3	lol
10:51:06	pfavr	but add a hook so it is possible to get the playscreen momentarily from all plugins and return to the plugin - then I'll enroll in your fan club!
10:51:26	pfavr	have to go
10:51:30	midknight2k3	cya
10:51:35	midknight2k3	lol
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10:51:56	midknight2k3	lol
10:55:25	pfavr	how about adding screensavers as special plugins?
10:55:35	midknight2k3	there are a few demos
10:55:43	pfavr	Your clock would be reallynice as a screensaver
10:55:58	midknight2k3	but you cant burn out your lcd like you can a TV or a CRT
10:56:04	pfavr	I know
10:56:08	midknight2k3	so just for "neatness" lol
10:56:19	pfavr	it is just that I'm too lazy to go pick a plugin all the time
10:56:31	midknight2k3	yeah
10:56:38	midknight2k3	i bet we can get an option for a screensaver
10:56:48	midknight2k3	pick a plugin to run and the delay to run it
10:56:52	pfavr	so the plugins which just do cool drawing of the lcd (like the vu-meter etc) could be screensavers
10:57:07	midknight2k3	i helped on the VU meter!
10:57:10	midknight2k3	isnt it nice
10:57:22	pfavr	and options to choose if you want the play screen to show for e.g. 10 seconds every time a new song starts
10:57:22	midknight2k3	needs a minor bit of work actually.. but still
10:57:54	midknight2k3	dont be too greedy :D
10:57:55	pfavr	yeah it is nice
10:57:58	midknight2k3	ok i sent it to linus
10:58:06	midknight2k3	means it oughta be out in the morning
10:58:38	pfavr	and then the "go to playscreen while playing a game without leaving the game"
10:58:45	pfavr	well, I'm off
10:58:46	midknight2k3	llol
10:58:49	midknight2k3	ok bye
10:58:56	midknight2k3	might as well ask for
10:58:59	midknight2k3	crossfader
10:59:01	midknight2k3	or .. yeah
10:59:12	midknight2k3	blue lcd backlight through firmware update
10:59:14	midknight2k3	lol
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11:12:42	midknight2k3	hi c0utta
11:14:36	midknight2k3	ATTENTION: Clock update at patch page
11:14:40	midknight2k3	gotta go. bye all!
11:14:43	c0utta	l o
11:14:46	midknight2k3	hope it gets in tomorrow
11:15:23	midknight2k3	nite all
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15:44:59	MT	ive found schematics for the xclef and internal photos
15:45:37	pfavr	(sorry for my ignorance but) what is xclef?
15:46:01	MT	http://www.xclef.com/pro03_e.htm
15:46:17	MT	it doesnt use sh-1 :/
15:48:48	pfavr	looks nice though
15:48:56	pfavr	what processor?
15:50:16	MT	Motorola M5249C3
15:50:56	pfavr	hmm is that a dsp? (or some coldfire-thingy?)
15:51:44	MT	im not entirely sure
15:51:57	MT	this schematic shows it having an external dsp
15:52:02	MT	http://www.emmeau.com/xclef/layoutbig.gif
15:52:33	MT	hmm, uclinux supports it
15:53:46	pfavr	it looks like a similar architecture to archos, and if gcc supports the mcu...
15:56:12	pfavr	I think my next mp3 thing should have: rockbox, FM transmitter and FM receiver
15:56:54	pfavr	(and a 250GB harddrive;-)
15:59:30	MT	heh
15:59:44	MT	most onboard controllers crap out at 137GB :)
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17:58:49	Sebulba02	hey Bluechip.
17:58:57	BC\|code	evenin
17:59:08	diddystar5	hi bc
17:59:13	BC\|code	hey diddy
17:59:22	BC\|code	how's life amongst the slite 2nite?
17:59:26	BC\|code	elite*
17:59:38	diddystar5	its not night.
17:59:54	diddystar5	its 9:00 A.M.
17:59:57	BC\|code	eurgh
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18:00:27	diddystar5	lol
18:00:41	BC\|code	anyone here ever added a new function to the plugin interface?
18:00:57	Sebulba02	nope
18:01:23	MT	yes
18:01:34	BC\|code	may I ask a Q please MT
18:01:44	diddystar5	MT: you should update your wormlet patch
18:01:51	BC\|code	When I call my new fn() I get IllegalInstruciton
18:02:25	diddystar5	its a law you cant do it :)
18:02:34	MT	diddystar: i have no mp3 player atm
18:02:39	MT	im 'in the market'
18:02:41	MT	http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=768153
18:03:29	diddystar5	i can test for you
18:04:02	MT	what doesnt work with my patch then?
18:04:12	MT	its just the plugin API thats changed slightly
18:04:17	diddystar5	its outdated a bit
18:04:45	diddystar5	i want cooler menus :)
18:05:38	MT	well I'm not going to change them
18:05:50	MT	the menus are done by external code
18:05:51	diddystar5	ok
18:06:20	diddystar5	you can still make them cooler looking, and maybe put in a cool logo or something
18:06:20	MT	im planning to buy an x-clef hd-500
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18:06:22	pfavr	how about making a special screensaver-plugin-interface?
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18:06:46	diddystar5	hey [IDC]Dragon
18:06:52	[IDC]Dragon	heya
18:07:19	BC\|code	Good evening Mr Dragon
18:07:24	pfavr	that way, things like the clock3, the vu-meter and so on could automatically appear without the need for pushing buttons
18:07:24	MT	xclef looks kind of fun
18:07:37	MT	its got oodles more CPU power to play with
18:08:09	[IDC]Dragon	BC, saw your plugin fn question.
18:08:11	diddystar5	humm
18:08:15	[IDC]Dragon	Still nedd help
18:08:19	BC\|code	yes please
18:08:19	[IDC]Dragon	?
18:08:29	[IDC]Dragon	so wassup?
18:08:54	BC\|code	I added int (*mas_codec_writereg)(int reg, unsigned int val); to the bottom of the big struct
18:09:11	BC\|code	wrapped up the same way as the guy who added readreg
18:09:18	[IDC]Dragon	did you bump PLUGIN_API_VERSION?
18:09:22	BC\|code	yep
18:09:22	MT	did you add it to the .c as well as the .h?
18:09:39	BC\|code	.c?
18:09:43	BC\|code	ermmmmm, NO
18:09:54	MT	theres plugin.c and plugin.h
18:10:03	BC\|code	oop
18:10:11	MT	one defines the type of elements in the struct
18:10:14	[IDC]Dragon	ok, solved.
18:10:20	MT	the other sets up whats in the struct
18:10:21	BC\|code	lol - thank you all :)
18:10:46	[IDC]Dragon	BC: are you the one with the wav playback?
18:11:05	MT	Dragon: give me your expert opinion on the Xclef?
18:11:08	BC\|code	we have still had no luck, but yes
18:11:11	MT	http://www.emmeau.com/xclef/xclef-print.jpg
18:11:19	MT	http://www.emmeau.com/xclef/layoutbig.gif
18:11:30	[IDC]Dragon	MT: I don't feel like changing the platform
18:11:55	MT	hmm ok
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18:12:26	BC\|code	Dragon: do you want in on the development work?
18:12:46	[IDC]Dragon	sorry?
18:12:56	BC\|code	Dragon: wav
18:13:05	[IDC]Dragon	would be nice
18:13:43	[IDC]Dragon	also a good thing for the MAS programming would be if it could do the bit-swapping
18:14:19	BC\|code	I suspect that would mean completely rewriting the MP3 codec
18:14:29	BC\|code	...into RAM
18:14:57	BC\|code	Linus, suggested the possibility of writing a codec to dump ROM content
18:15:07	[IDC]Dragon	depends on the internal struct, if you can just place something in front of it, you could recycle what's there
18:15:48	BC\|code	the problem is that although we have (afaik) all the developer docs, they are really not very helpful :(
18:16:05	[IDC]Dragon	what's in there?
18:16:40	BC\|code	couple of codecs, reference code, simulators, pc->i2c util
18:16:48	diddystar5	the api doc is outdated
18:17:20	[IDC]Dragon	doyou mind sending it?
18:17:25	BC\|code	diddy: dont need to be a programmer to update that
18:18:25	[IDC]Dragon	MT: the xclef hardware looks nice, but the Archos has to "pay back" my low level work on it
18:18:29	BC\|code	I have been given persmission to share the info with other serious developers, as I am happy that you are indeed one of those, I have no problem, but would ask that you do the same
18:20:41	[IDC]Dragon	MT: I'd loose a lot with the Archos, if you know what I mean
18:20:55	MT	as i currently have no mp3 player, and i distrust archos now anyways :) I'm looking for a new player that I could possibly port to
18:21:05	MT	and the xclef does look nice :)
18:21:34	[IDC]Dragon	my question to it would be: is it there long enough for an open source development?
18:21:49	[IDC]Dragon	those take notoriously long
18:21:51	diddystar5	that motorola chip in the xclef is the same as in my GPS
18:22:07	MT	from what I can tell tho, the only way to load the firmware is to have the present firmware flash it and then execute it
18:22:14	MT	which is scary to me
18:22:16	[IDC]Dragon	are there open tools for it?
18:22:18	MT	heh
18:22:23	MT	gcc compiles for it
18:23:19	MT	it appears to have no DSP, MP3/WMA decoding is done by the processor
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18:23:45	MT	and its got a nice stack of ram to play with too
18:23:53	diddystar5	how much?
18:23:59	MT	16MB
18:25:23	diddystar5	nice ;)
18:25:39	MT	best part is the processor, 120 MHz
18:25:47	diddystar5	really!
18:25:58	diddystar5	crap that thing has lots of potential
18:26:29	diddystar5	how big is the screen? how many pixles?
18:29:00	MT	its roughly the same size as the archos
18:30:11	diddystar5	thats bad
18:30:33	diddystar5	i want a nig screen, i have to squint to seemy archos screen
18:30:35	[IDC]Dragon	no, way bigger
18:30:48	[IDC]Dragon	it's 128*105 or such
18:31:02	[IDC]Dragon	look in the specs, I've seen it
18:31:14	MT	oh yeah
18:31:15	MT	duh
18:31:21	MT	160x105
18:31:47	diddystar5	not bad
18:32:18	diddystar5	[IDC]Dragon: do you know any GOOD and WORKING software to convert my dvd vob files to avi?
18:32:38	[IDC]Dragon	have you tried VirtualDub?
18:32:56	MT	vdub :)
18:33:01	diddystar5	i looked at the site
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18:34:35	diddystar5	will i need to dl divx codec?
18:34:59	[IDC]Dragon	probably
18:35:08	[IDC]Dragon	(I'm no expert in this)
18:35:59	diddystar5	i treied servel things, dvd2avi, which wouldnt read my dvd, mplayer, which wouldnt install on knoppix, dvdrip, which wouldnt even compile for me...
18:36:18	MT	oh is this for linux?
18:36:34	MT	you need mplayer
18:37:53	diddystar5	no, im on windows, i just tried mplayer on knoppix linux, and it compiled but wouldnt install
18:39:55	diddystar5	doesnt loo like i can
18:39:58	diddystar5	*look
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19:00:47	diddystar5	ok got it down now! use dvd decryptor to rip the movie to my hd, use flask mpeg and divx codec to get to avi.. and then port to rockbox!
19:01:20	[IDC]Dragon	you ary crazy, DVD to Rockbox
19:01:28	[IDC]Dragon	are
19:01:31	diddystar5	:)
19:01:43	diddystar5	its an entire movie
19:01:57	diddystar5	it will make history :)
19:02:19	[IDC]Dragon	wait til we have sound
19:02:37	diddystar5	i wonder how big it wil be when im done
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19:02:50	[IDC]Dragon	500kBit/sec
19:02:51	diddystar5	[IDC]Dragon: sound is being worked on?
19:02:58	[IDC]Dragon	not yet
19:03:56	[IDC]Dragon	90 minutes should be like 270MB#
19:04:04	diddystar5	wow
19:04:07	diddystar5	lol
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19:06:49	diddystar5	almost done ripping dvd to my hd
19:07:07	BC\|code	has anyone written an avi->rvf doc?
19:07:09	diddystar5	it said it could take like 6-8 hours to encide to avi
19:07:22	diddystar5	BC\|code: [IDC]Dragon has
19:07:41	BC\|code	where'z'at?
19:07:50	diddystar5	one sec
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19:08:47	diddystar5	http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/0530.shtml
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19:09:21	BC\|code	cheers diddy
19:15:07	kurzhaarrocker	Hm. What's LinusN email? He requested a patch on peakmeter and I don't know his adress.
19:16:52	BC\|code	from the mainiling list: linus at haxx.se
19:16:59	MT	put it on the patch-o-matic
19:17:23	BC\|code	errrrrrrrrrrr, sorry linus should have done the _AT_ _DOT_ thing :(
19:17:33	kurzhaarrocker	MT: doesn't make sense because its just an api patch.
19:17:55	kurzhaarrocker	BC\|code: He'll redirect all his spam to you!
19:18:32	BC\|code	maybe he'll edit the irc log?
19:18:37	BC\|code	(hopes)
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19:23:11	diddystar5	linus at haxx.se
19:23:25	diddystar5	whoops
19:23:29	kurzhaarrocker	lol
19:23:30	diddystar5	err
19:23:37	diddystar5	sorry Linus!
19:23:45	kurzhaarrocker	I'll never ask for email adresses again on this chat!
19:23:46	*	BC\|code weeps
19:23:59	BC\|code	we're all a bit thick here! lol
19:24:45	[IDC]Dragon	don't worry, emails are "translated" in the logs
19:25:01	diddystar5	im encoding a part of my movie for testing :)
19:25:44	kurzhaarrocker	uff
19:25:44	diddystar5	be back later
19:25:44	diddystar5	bye guys
19:25:48	BC\|code	buy
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19:26:44	kurzhaarrocker	BC\|code: have you accidently been so bored as to search for the DEBUGF problem in the spliteditor patch?
19:29:46	BC\|code	I use printf() to send output to the console
19:30:44	kurzhaarrocker	The problem is that the simulator build claims that DEBUGF was a unresolved symbol. I have no idea how that can be.
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19:38:23	BC\|code	what does DEBUGF do?
19:38:34	BC\|code	I thought it was just console output
19:38:58	kurzhaarrocker	I believe it's output via the serial.
19:39:09	BC\|code	not in SIM mode
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19:55:37	midknight2k3	hi all
19:56:00	kurzhaarrocker	yea
19:56:05	midknight2k3	YES!
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20:07:29	midknight2k3	[IDC]Dragon?
20:07:50	midknight2k3	is it possible to display the date of the build when you bring up the rockbox_flash plugin?
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20:21:12	midknight2k3	hey bluechip
20:21:25	midknight2k3	my clock is in
20:21:29	midknight2k3	can we change the topic for that
20:21:40	BlueChip	hello
20:21:44	midknight2k3	" Celebrate midknight2k3's new clock plugin! " ?
20:22:22	top_bloke	lol
20:23:22	midknight2k3	top_bloke: in your face
20:23:28	top_bloke	nooooo
20:23:30	midknight2k3	and wheres the date patch you were making?
20:23:40	top_bloke	lol
20:23:56	top_bloke	i cant center it
20:23:59	midknight2k3	i can\
20:24:01	top_bloke	so i quit
20:24:07	midknight2k3	just move it over!
20:24:18	top_bloke	lol
20:24:24	top_bloke	yeah i put some spaces in it
20:24:31	midknight2k3	not spaces you twit
20:24:40	midknight2k3	just move the coordinates
20:24:42	top_bloke	but it will be different with fonts
20:24:53	top_bloke	i did
20:25:09	midknight2k3	lcd_putsxy( 40, 3, "%d/%d/%d", month, day, year );
20:25:13	midknight2k3	ohh
20:25:20	midknight2k3	change it to sysfixed
20:25:23	midknight2k3	the global font
20:25:30	top_bloke	oh
20:25:36	top_bloke	yeah it is
20:25:42	top_bloke	it is already
20:26:04	top_bloke	no i wanted it to be like the lcd width/2 - width of the string
20:26:09	midknight2k3	no
20:26:12	midknight2k3	thats.. no
20:26:26	top_bloke	what
20:26:32	midknight2k3	just use your own coords
20:26:33	top_bloke	what what what
20:26:35	midknight2k3	its not that hard
20:26:51	midknight2k3	putsxy.. puts, coordinates are (x) and (y)
20:26:53	top_bloke	but CENTERED
20:26:58	midknight2k3	grrrr
20:26:59	top_bloke	yeah i know
20:27:03	midknight2k3	CENTER IT YOURSELF
20:27:06	midknight2k3	lol
20:27:16	BlueChip	tb: are you using a fixed width font?
20:27:17	top_bloke	oh yeah i guess
20:27:26	midknight2k3	sysfixed
20:27:30	top_bloke	yeah
20:27:46	top_bloke	that will require like 20 builds to get it right
20:27:52	BlueChip	x = (112-(strlen(s)*width))/2
20:28:26	midknight2k3	bluechip! thats what i needed last night
20:28:26	midknight2k3	lol
20:28:40	top_bloke	let me dig up the code
20:29:56	top_bloke	lcd_putsxy((LCD_WIDTH-w)/2, 0, buf);
20:30:15	midknight2k3	lol top
20:30:26	top_bloke	whaty
20:30:30	midknight2k3	im so used to rb-> now
20:30:39	midknight2k3	im not gonna be able to code well anymore
20:30:43	midknight2k3	ill be lik rb->lcd_putsxy
20:30:52	midknight2k3	(thats how you have to code in a plugin)
20:33:52	top_bloke	yeah
20:33:57	top_bloke	so whats wrong with thaty code
20:34:18	midknight2k3	it starts putting the string at width/2
20:34:24	top_bloke	it didnt show it at all
20:34:28	midknight2k3	so its like:
20:34:50	midknight2k3	\| 12/22/2\|
20:35:08	midknight2k3	it doesnt center the text, just the first pixel of the first character
20:35:22	top_bloke	yeah
20:35:50	midknight2k3	so, in other words, try your own COOrdinates.
20:36:03	top_bloke	well i wanna do it right
20:36:10	midknight2k3	top! listen!
20:36:10	BlueChip	wtf is 12/22/2 ??
20:36:16	top_bloke	IE if another archos comes along
20:36:16	midknight2k3	its cut off
20:36:18	midknight2k3	thats what it is
20:36:23	midknight2k3	OH GOD
20:36:27	midknight2k3	forget it toppy
20:36:28	top_bloke	with a 200 w screen
20:36:35	top_bloke	it wont look right
20:36:41	top_bloke	if i do it this way, it will
20:36:41	midknight2k3	ITSNOTGONNAHAPPEN
20:36:42	BlueChip	lol
20:36:53	midknight2k3	i was wrong. you are terrible at coding
20:37:10	top_bloke	when did u say i wasnt
20:37:22	midknight2k3	i used to all the time
20:37:29	BlueChip	hey, top, I'm lost ...do you need any help dude?
20:37:33	top_bloke	thats why they use variables like LCD_WIDTH
20:37:37	midknight2k3	no its not!
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20:37:39	midknight2k3	top.
20:37:41	top_bloke	yeah
20:37:44	midknight2k3	everything is fixed width
20:37:53	midknight2k3	they dont use lcd_width for anything else at f2
20:37:55	midknight2k3	WHY DO YOU THINK
20:37:56	top_bloke	no its not
20:38:06	top_bloke	ok fine
20:38:10	midknight2k3	no. lcd_width. at. any. other. part.
20:38:19	midknight2k3	just. do. it. your. own. way.
20:38:27	midknight2k3	it. may. take. a. few. minutes.
20:38:54	top_bloke	no it wont get done my way
20:39:04	top_bloke	they dont use 112
20:39:12	top_bloke	even thought every archos is 112
20:39:12	midknight2k3	?
20:39:18	top_bloke	recoder
20:39:19	midknight2k3	what
20:39:27	midknight2k3	what about 112
20:39:29	top_bloke	god i cant explain it
20:39:38	midknight2k3	you suck toopy
20:39:51	top_bloke	yeah
20:40:03	top_bloke	i bet i sound like a dumbass
20:40:12	midknight2k3	you do
20:40:32	top_bloke	all i'm saying
20:40:54	BlueChip	lcd.h defines LCD_WIDTH but it is often not used
20:40:55	top_bloke	nah forget it
20:41:09	midknight2k3	no i want to hear what top wants to say
20:41:14	midknight2k3	what is it youre saying?
20:41:31	top_bloke	well if you had a new archos with a 200 wide screen, it would get defined as 200 in there
20:41:39	midknight2k3	THERE ARE NO NEW ARCHOSES
20:41:43	midknight2k3	THERE WONT BE
20:41:48	midknight2k3	AND IF THERE ARE IT WILL BE FIXED
20:41:50	top_bloke	but what if
20:41:54	midknight2k3	there WILL NOT BE
20:42:08	top_bloke	how do u know
20:43:11	midknight2k3	.. you... GRRR
20:43:45	top_bloke	yeah
20:43:53	*	midknight2k3 slaps top_bloke around a bit with a large trout
20:44:01	midknight2k3	i want to pummel you to a pulp
20:44:10	MT	there may well be new platforms that rockbox could run on
20:44:16	top_bloke	YES
20:44:27	BlueChip	god, its like being back at school
20:44:30	BlueChip	lol
20:44:38	top_bloke	and not necessarily have a 112xwhatever screen
20:44:50	midknight2k3	TOP
20:44:51	midknight2k3	forget it
20:44:52	midknight2k3	you suck
20:44:54	midknight2k3	period
20:44:58	top_bloke	and my date would still be CENTERED
20:45:03	midknight2k3	OK
20:45:04	top_bloke	if i did it right
20:45:08	midknight2k3	AND DO YOU KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT CENTERED
20:45:10	top_bloke	(but i cant)
20:45:12	top_bloke	no
20:45:16	BlueChip	did you just ask tb to suck you?
20:45:20	midknight2k3	BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD NOT BE CENTERED
20:45:21	midknight2k3	what
20:45:26	midknight2k3	no
20:46:07	top_bloke	the browse settings in the fx menu would be centered
20:46:11	midknight2k3	top's an idiot
20:46:15	midknight2k3	browse settings>
20:46:20	midknight2k3	WELL USE THAT CODE THEN'
20:46:36	top_bloke	what do u think i've been doing
20:46:40	top_bloke	the filter settings
20:46:43	midknight2k3	something else
20:46:45	top_bloke	of what files to show
20:46:52	midknight2k3	shutup
20:47:07	top_bloke	i've been tryng to use that code
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20:59:59	midknight2k3	LMAO
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21:00:11	midknight2k3	nice try toop
21:00:31	midknight2k3	ban him! ban him!
21:01:21	BlueChip	what's his problem mk?
21:01:33	midknight2k3	his flood
21:01:35	midknight2k3	lol
21:01:39	midknight2k3	of ME
21:01:58	midknight2k3	no he just doesnt listen
21:02:08	midknight2k3	he wants help but when you give him it he disagrees
21:02:23	DBUG	Enqueued KICK BlueChip
21:02:23	BlueChip	what's his problem mk?
21:02:29	midknight2k3	...
21:02:35	midknight2k3	coding problem?
21:02:38	BlueChip	sure :)
21:02:46	midknight2k3	centering of text
21:03:10	midknight2k3	he wont use his own coordinates "Because if some other archos with a 200 pixel wide screen comes along it wont be centered"
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21:03:50	BlueChip	that's fair ...good coding practice ...especially with the new Neo Support
21:04:02	midknight2k3	precisely
21:04:03	midknight2k3	BUT
21:04:06	midknight2k3	the point is
21:04:10	midknight2k3	nothing else is centered
21:04:16	top_bloke	yeah it is
21:04:21	midknight2k3	then use that code!
21:04:25	midknight2k3	i don't see what the issue is there
21:04:31	top_bloke	but icant
21:04:38	top_bloke	thats all im saying
21:04:41	midknight2k3	why not?!
21:04:44	top_bloke	i'll try it
21:04:45	midknight2k3	and why would you want to
21:04:46	midknight2k3	ok
21:05:03	top_bloke	its good coding
21:05:25	BlueChip	if we can do it without the squabbling I will help ...if not, I'm off to do my own stuff
21:05:42	top_bloke	nah no squabbles
21:05:50	BlueChip	describe your problem
21:05:51	top_bloke	if unless mid gets involved
21:06:00	midknight2k3	he doesnt listen.
21:06:03	top_bloke	the text doesnt show
21:06:08	top_bloke	when i did that
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21:14:04	kurzhaarrocker	Still bitching about centered text?
21:14:20	midknight2k3	me?
21:14:27	midknight2k3	top maybe
21:14:32	midknight2k3	i wouldn't know
21:14:46	top_bloke	lol
21:15:23	kurzhaarrocker	centering text using LCDWIDTH is easy
21:16:45	kurzhaarrocker	int width, height;
21:16:47	kurzhaarrocker	rb->lcd_getstringsize("mytext", &width, &height);
21:16:47	kurzhaarrocker	rb->lcd_putsxy(LCD_WIDTH / 2 + width / 2, 10, "mytext");
21:17:06	midknight2k3	there you go
21:17:30	kurzhaarrocker	sorry replace + with - of course
21:17:55	top_bloke	no doubt
21:20:17	top_bloke	heres what i had
21:20:20	top_bloke	snprintf(buf, sizeof buf, "%2d/%02d/%02d", mon, mday, year);
21:20:20	top_bloke	lcd_getstringsize(buf,&w,&h);
21:20:20	top_bloke	lcd_putsxy((LCD_WIDTH-w)/2,0, buf);
21:20:41	kurzhaarrocker	That should work
21:20:47	kurzhaarrocker	doesn't it?
21:20:50	top_bloke	thats what i thought too
21:20:56	top_bloke	but didnt show anything
21:21:04	top_bloke	maybe i gotta try it again
21:21:17	kurzhaarrocker	have you called lcd_update() afterwards?
21:21:20	BlueChip	im guessing that either LCD_WIDTH or w are not resolving properly
21:21:30	top_bloke	no
21:21:34	BlueChip	LOL
21:21:41	BlueChip	well spotted Kurz
21:21:57	kurzhaarrocker	I've made that mistake to many times now...
21:22:10	top_bloke	its part of a loop though
21:22:18	top_bloke	i'm sure it updates somewhere
21:22:19	BlueChip	worst of all is you don't need it in the sim ...IT WORKED ON THE SIM !!!
21:22:20	BlueChip	lol
21:22:49	midknight2k3	LMAO
21:23:12	top_bloke	i'll add lcd_update();
21:23:22	BlueChip	immediately after the puts() yes?
21:23:37	top_bloke	yeah
21:23:41	top_bloke	no good?
21:23:48	BlueChip	should work
21:23:56	top_bloke	ok cool
21:24:00	top_bloke	gotta go afk for a while
21:24:15	kurzhaarrocker	does that mean it works now?
21:26:25	kurzhaarrocker	whats afk? Away For Kebap?
21:27:14	BlueChip	Alfreds Fornicating Koala
21:28:30	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
21:28:30	*	kurzhaarrocker frowns bewildered
21:28:35	midknight2k3	gzsdsfa
21:29:21		Nick BlueChip is now known as BC\|code (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com)
21:29:21	DBUG	Enqueued KICK BC\|code
21:29:30	midknight2k3	bc: hi
21:30:00		Quit kurzhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)")
21:33:03	BC\|code	anyone know how to design a new font?
21:33:10	midknight2k3	not really
21:36:11	BC\|code	seem to be no docs on it!
21:36:19	midknight2k3	well
21:36:25	midknight2k3	you can convert from bdf files
21:36:34	BC\|code	how do i make a bdf file?
21:37:02	midknight2k3	no idea
21:37:08	midknight2k3	at the docs page there is info (fonts page)
21:37:44	BC\|code	url?
21:38:45	midknight2k3	loking
21:38:47	midknight2k3	lookingh
21:39:19	midknight2k3	http://rockbox.haxx.se/fonts/
21:39:22	BC\|code	ta
21:39:29	midknight2k3	at the very end is info
21:39:38	BC\|code	ah, yes, cool
21:39:41	BC\|code	my hero
21:39:46	midknight2k3	lol
21:39:48	BC\|code	pfaedit
21:39:50	midknight2k3	you like me!
21:39:53	midknight2k3	you really like me!
21:40:01	BC\|code	god knows why though
21:40:11	BC\|code	think you remind me of an old me
21:41:12	BC\|code	i think you could be a bloody good programmer if you want it enough
21:41:20	midknight2k3	oops
21:42:42	BC\|code	geez - need to install X to run it!
21:43:03	midknight2k3	>
21:43:06	midknight2k3	?
21:58:17	midknight2k3	?
21:58:20	midknight2k3	os x?
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22:01:27		Join earHurts [0] (~zic@c-65-97-29-164.va.client2.attbi.com)
22:01:37	earHurts	hello
22:01:44	midknight2k3	hey
22:01:47	midknight2k3	earHURTS!
22:01:52	midknight2k3	my clock is done
22:02:01	earHurts	cool
22:02:09	BC\|code	ohh ohh mee mee
22:02:13	midknight2k3	so now all you need to do is get a full daily build to try it
22:02:25	BC\|code	eh: is there a windows BDF editor? :) lol
22:02:29	earHurts	why a daily?
22:02:35	midknight2k3	its not in 2.1
22:02:37	earHurts	did you change the api?
22:02:40	midknight2k3	oh
22:02:46	midknight2k3	i mean its in the official release
22:02:54	midknight2k3	so you dont have to go to the patches page
22:02:58	midknight2k3	just the new daily+rocks
22:04:02	earHurts	does the patxh credit tom for helping you?
22:04:28	midknight2k3	i credited a lot of people
22:04:30	midknight2k3	dunno
22:04:38	midknight2k3	if i forgot, apologies
22:04:43	earHurts	hmph
22:04:48	midknight2k3	did i forget you?
22:05:09	earHurts	I dunno
22:05:17	midknight2k3	i hope not
22:05:22	earHurts	too lazy to check ;)
22:05:47	midknight2k3	well, i apologize profusely if i forgot you
22:08:06	BC\|code	eh: any idea of a windows font editor so I can make a new rockbox font?
22:08:37	earHurts	nope
22:08:41	BC\|code	F
22:08:45	BC\|code	ta
22:09:46	earHurts	test
22:09:56	midknight2k3	test?
22:10:05	earHurts	testing wifi range
22:10:14	midknight2k3	yeay ear
22:11:08	earHurts	I want to know if I can still be in wifi range when I give midk a beatdown
22:11:19	midknight2k3	lol
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22:13:10	traxx	Hi
22:13:38	midknight2k3	hey
22:14:21	traxx	hi
22:15:00	traxx	hope they can make CD-RW disks write as fast as CD-Rs soon
22:15:39	traxx	well actually I want my CD written as soon as I click the "Record" button
22:24:30	earHurts	hhh
22:33:20	BC\|code	eh: you know much about audio?
22:34:05	earHurts	no
22:34:11	BC\|code	ok np
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22:40:01	diddystar5	[IDC]Dragon: im ripping a 15 minute part of my movie (70mb avi), and the avitoyuv has been going for over 2 hours and the output is currently 180 mb and growing, is that normal?
22:40:07	diddystar5	*i ripped
22:40:49	[IDC]Dragon	dunnu, I never did such
22:40:58	[IDC]Dragon	what do you use to rip?
22:41:11	[IDC]Dragon	can you do the avi in 112*64?
22:41:35	diddystar5	i used dvd secyptor to get the movie on my hd, and then i used flask mpeg to compress a part of it to avi
22:41:43	diddystar5	yes it is 112x64
22:42:01	[IDC]Dragon	so you use flask to do the 112*64?
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22:42:27	diddystar5	yes, when i set it when i was encodeing to avi to encode at 112x64
22:42:37	midknight2k3	idc: can you show UCL version at rockbox_flash screen?
22:42:43	[IDC]Dragon	what avicodec?
22:42:56	diddystar5	5.11 i think
22:42:58	[IDC]Dragon	midknight2k3: no
22:43:02	midknight2k3	aww
22:43:10	diddystar5	just the standard codec from the divx site
22:43:12	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
22:43:12	*	midknight2k3 fusses
22:43:19	midknight2k3	needs to be uncompressed
22:43:22	[IDC]Dragon	midknight2k3: where should I get that versionfrom?
22:43:53	[IDC]Dragon	diddystar5: yes, use a "mild" compressor or none
22:44:12	diddystar5	i dont think its compressed at all, how can i find out?
22:44:42	midknight2k3	[IDC]Dragon: fromt he UCL
22:44:45	midknight2k3	the*
22:44:52	[IDC]Dragon	can't you configure that somewhere?
22:45:22	[IDC]Dragon	midknight2k3: that's somewhere in the image, not accessible from outside of the code
22:45:23	diddystar5	i looked in flaskmpeg, but i see no options on compresion
22:45:32	[IDC]Dragon	plus, a ucl is compressed
22:45:40	midknight2k3	decompress it?
22:45:50	[IDC]Dragon	I have no memory to uncompress it
22:46:01	[IDC]Dragon	and there is no point in doing so
22:46:16	[IDC]Dragon	after all, why is it compressed?
22:46:21	midknight2k3	to save space
22:46:32	[IDC]Dragon	exactly
22:46:38	midknight2k3	sd
22:46:43	scott666	isnt the ucl version going to be very similar to the filename anyway?
22:46:48	midknight2k3	no
22:46:57	midknight2k3	rockbox.ucl isnt very info-wielding
22:47:08	[IDC]Dragon	you could rename it
22:47:13	scott666	i was thinking daily builds
22:47:16	diddystar5	im going to stop avitoyuv
22:47:24	diddystar5	i dont htink its going right
22:47:33	[IDC]Dragon	diddystar5: yes
22:47:48	*	[IDC]Dragon returns to Splinter Cell
22:48:00	scott666	is there a way we can play rvf files on a computer?
22:48:14	midknight2k3	sd
22:48:39	diddystar5	it gave me an ugly error when i did: instruction at 0x00e30b44 referenced memory at 0x00e30b44 the memory coudnt be read
22:50:01	diddystar5	just for fun i just ran halftone on the file, and it appears to be working
22:50:33		Quit top_bloke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
22:50:43	diddystar5	brb
22:50:51	midknight2k3	k
22:54:00	diddystar5	omg
22:54:04	diddystar5	it wroks!
22:54:08	midknight2k3	yay
22:55:18	diddystar5	goldmember on archos
22:55:20	diddystar5	lol
22:55:36	BC\|code	does anybody have an artistic opinion....
22:55:44	BC\|code	on which order the channel configs should be
22:55:51	midknight2k3	?>
22:56:16	diddystar5	left
22:56:22	BC\|code	stereo, mono, karaoke, custom, mono-l, mono-r, stero-wide, stereo-narrow
22:56:34	midknight2k3	custom?
22:56:52	BC\|code	first ot last? remember it is a circle
22:56:56	BC\|code	or
22:56:58	midknight2k3	whats custom
22:57:31	BC\|code	much like Bass Boost "custom" - but for stereo seperation
22:57:42	diddystar5	stereo, stereo wide, stereo narrow, mono, mono l, mono r, karaoke, custom
22:57:42	midknight2k3	OHH
22:57:47	midknight2k3	stereo separation? neat
22:58:20	midknight2k3	stereo wide, stereo, stereo narrow, mono l, mono r, custom, karaoke
22:58:47	BC\|code	which do you use most often
22:58:48	BC\|code	?
22:58:55	midknight2k3	stereo
22:58:55	diddystar5	i just use stereo
22:59:00	midknight2k3	and stereo wide
22:59:28	diddystar5	i use wide a bit, and karaoke a bit
22:59:43	diddystar5	my goldmember video is so cool :)
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23:00:24	midknight2k3	lol
23:00:38	midknight2k3	gota go for a big
23:00:40	midknight2k3	bye all
23:00:41	diddystar5	now to get waynes world
23:00:44	diddystar5	bye midknight2k3
23:00:44	midknight2k3	lol
23:01:00	midknight2k3	try my clock :D
23:01:08		Quit midknight2k3 ()
23:01:30	BC\|code	mk, no mono in your list
23:01:57	diddystar5	i bet he wants it i the middle of monol and monor
23:03:16	BC\|code	i came up with... ml, mr, mono, custom, st, st-n, st-w, kar
23:03:37	BC\|code	custm in the middle <<<more mono >>>more stereo
23:05:59	diddystar5	do you have code for the circle yet?
23:07:06	BC\|code	not on paper yet
23:07:27	diddystar5	where is it? in your head?
23:08:04	BC\|code	what do you need?
23:08:27	diddystar5	nothing, just wanna see it
23:08:42	BC\|code	see what?
23:08:57	diddystar5	n/m
23:09:17	BC\|code	please dont bug me when i'm coding and then say "n/m" :(
23:09:46	diddystar5	ok
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23:16:15	[IDC]Dragon	goodnight
23:16:21		Quit [IDC]Dragon ()
23:16:25	diddystar5	bye
23:16:32	diddystar5	to alte...
23:18:35	scott666	does anyone have a suggestion on what to call a folder with open office and notepad and paint and stuff in it?
23:19:03	BC\|code	editors
23:19:14	scott666	thank you
23:19:51	diddystar5	bye
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23:28:14	earHurts	de
23:29:31	BC\|code	eh?
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23:33:09		Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...")
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23:36:57	Electronic	Evening all
23:37:06	BC\|code	helo
23:37:09	Electronic	hi
23:40:36	Electronic	the video plugin is awesome
23:40:39	Electronic	just requires sound
23:40:48	BC\|code	it is being worked on :)
23:40:56	Electronic	really?
23:41:02	BC\|code	reaaly! :)
23:41:05	Electronic	i.e just a link to an MP3 soundtrack?
23:41:27	scott666	i think its more complicated than that
23:41:31	BC\|code	not sure what the current thinknig is ...and you've missed the author tonight
23:41:40	Electronic	ok
23:41:42	Electronic	no worries
23:41:50	Electronic	im sure i'll encounter him again
23:41:55	BC\|code	I'm guessing at interleaving the audio into the video stream
23:42:26	BC\|code	so what brings you this way Electronic
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23:49:44	Dr_Slump	Hello all
23:49:53	BC\|code	Evenin Doc
23:50:19	Dr_Slump	Is anyone know if a .nfo or a .cue viewer is planned ?
23:50:47	BC\|code	you mean just view as text?
23:51:02		Part pfavr
23:54:09	Dr_Slump	yep view as text in a first time
23:54:24	BC\|code	sorry "in a first time"?
23:54:59		Quit Electronic ("Leaving")
23:55:00	Dr_Slump	mmmm ... on the beginning of the devlopment i mean ;)
23:55:51	BC\|code	if you want to add .nfo and .cue file extensions to the viewer list it is a very simple job :)
23:55:51	Dr_Slump	in fact, the text viewer by default should recongnize the .nfo and .cue file in my opinion :)
23:56:03	Dr_Slump	ah it is possible ?
23:56:14	Dr_Slump	without recompiling ?
23:56:22	BC\|code	no, WITH recompile
23:56:26	Dr_Slump	:/
23:56:36	BC\|code	ever done any C?
23:56:39	Dr_Slump	it should be an option of the text viewer so :)
23:57:22	Dr_Slump	nah i am a programmer but not every one is, and it should be a common option ;)
23:58:01	BC\|code	two great choices: (1) add file extensions (one line of code per extension) ...(2) update the plugin with a new interface :)

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