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#rockbox log for 2003-12-31

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01:29:25[IDC]Dragonjust saying goodby for this year
01:29:59[IDC]Dragonsee you all in 2004, i hope
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02:39:14kurzhaarrockerLinusN: do you intend to include triggered recording in your task to extend rockbox with prerecording?
02:39:37LinusNi will add the prerecording first, then triggered
02:39:55LinusNonly because the prerecording changes are huge
02:40:04LinusNwill commit it in a few minutes
02:40:34LinusNcare to test run?
02:40:54kurzhaarrockerme likes to test that!
02:40:58kurzhaarrockerbtw: Am I stupid or does the digital in not work atm?
02:41:12LinusNi really hope you are stupid
02:42:38kurzhaarrockerDon't dig into that before I checked all my wires _thoroughly_
02:44:40LinusNyou have fmr or jbr?
02:49:32kurzhaarrockerrecorder 15
02:50:02LinusNok, can you dcc?
02:52:09kurzhaarrockerseems I can :)
02:52:27kurzhaarrockerseems I can't :(
02:52:42LinusNit might be my firewall :-(
02:52:49kurzhaarrockeror mine
02:53:17BC|Codei have ftp you can use if you like?
02:55:44kurzhaarrockerIs there a standard port for dcc?
02:56:37LinusNi dunno
02:57:19*kurzhaarrocker tries sth, cu
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02:59:26kurzhaarrockerCould someone try to dcc me now?
03:03:10kurzhaarrockerhm. tranfser by BC|Code worked, but not by LinusN
03:03:21LinusNso it's my firewall then
03:03:36LinusNunfortunately, i can't change it
03:03:56LinusNkurzhaarrocker: got my email?
03:05:00kurzhaarrockernot yet
03:07:17kurzhaarrockerLinusN: you probably made a difficult patch which is not easy to transfer, either.
03:07:47BC|Codewhy doesn't one of you fire up an ftp server?
03:08:21 Quit AciD (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
03:11:09MTwhy dont you put it on
03:11:58kurzhaarrockerWhy go the difficult ways?
03:12:25BC|Code21 minutes and counting ;)
03:15:25kurzhaarrocker"The requested URL /ajbrec_prerecording.ajz was not found on this server."
03:17:07kurzhaarrockererm got it, to avoid misunderstandings...
03:20:33LinusNthere is a new recording setting, "Prerecord time"
03:23:07kurzhaarrockerand digital in works, too
03:23:30LinusNand it didn't before?
03:24:02kurzhaarrockerI believe it was a problem in my signal chain, not in rockbox
03:24:41kurzhaarrockerI can select with two switches a whole bunch of digital sources...
03:28:08BC|Codeany idea why i get "incomplete type" for this:
03:28:08BC|Codeint array[][]={{1,1},{2,2},{3,3}};
03:28:22kurzhaarrockercool, even the time display shows the prerecorded time
03:28:56kurzhaarrockerI think you have to tie the inner size
03:29:10LinusNBC|Code: you need to specify one dimension
03:34:12kurzhaarrockerLinus: works flawlessly
03:34:17kurzhaarrockerLinusN: have you received the peakmeter patch I mailed you?
03:34:32LinusNyes i have, i'll look into it soonish
03:34:54LinusNi'll commit the prerecording now
03:35:27kurzhaarrockerWhen prerecording is on the fn screens don't work.
03:35:32kurzhaarrockerwhich makes sense
03:35:40LinusNyeah, i know
03:35:58kurzhaarrockerI assume it was intensional?
03:36:04LinusNbut we could allow it and restart the prerecording when the settings have changed
03:36:26kurzhaarrockerThat would be a great improvement
03:39:17kurzhaarrockerWell, the most important thing is that the gain can be changed while recording, which does work
03:40:47LinusNtry that one
03:42:52kurzhaarrockerLinusN: you're _fast_!
03:43:35LinusNhehe, i had support for it, just forgot to change the f2/f3 conditions
03:46:02kurzhaarrockerI assume "prerecording off" is stored in the prerecord time data? Background: it might be nice to toggle prerecording in the f2 screen. Keep the time, just toggle it on and off. Not really very important.
03:46:21LinusNgood idea though
03:46:35LinusNprerecording off == 0 seconds
03:46:54kurzhaarrockerThat's what I guessed. I don't think its worth the effort then.
03:47:09LinusNi'll keep it in mind, though
03:47:47kurzhaarrockerThe same applies to triggered recording. But here we'll want more options: off, record once, retrigger after stop.
03:48:18kurzhaarrockerAnd of course just trigger recording start and stop manually / start manually, stop triggered...
03:49:04LinusNi think a separate "arm trigger" choice
03:49:16LinusNthen it waits for the trigger, or the Play key
03:49:21BC|Codethis sounds like some more amazing "linus" code :)
03:50:19kurzhaarrockermakes sense
03:50:48LinusNgosh, i see more and more options...
03:51:02kurzhaarrockerwith triggering?
03:51:07LinusNlike, what if the user stops the recording manually, should it retrigger or not?
03:51:26kurzhaarrockerThat's what I tried to talk about above
03:51:46LinusN"retrigger on automatic stop", "retrigger on manual stop"
03:52:26kurzhaarrockerI thought that were items of your proposed "arm trigger" menu
03:52:43BC|Codeyou might find some interesting approaches if you can borrow an MD player
03:52:46 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: no additives or preservatives")
03:53:26kurzhaarrockerI had three mds, all of them are broken now. None had the options, that were really useful
03:54:00kurzhaarrockerActually all they provided was to make a trackchange when silence occurred.
03:54:20kurzhaarrockerWhat "silence" was, was tied fix and unchangable..
03:54:28BC|Codewow - the ones I've played with had a number of features I remember finding "useful"
03:54:47BC|Codelong time now though
03:55:04LinusNBC|Code: what kurzhaarrocker is trying to say is "you're an amateur" :-)
03:56:23kurzhaarrockerBut it is correct, that I have very special need with these automation thingies. I want to put the thing in the practice room, hit one button and it record every time we try to play something.
03:56:46BC|Codelol - precisely what my MD experiences were
03:57:37kurzhaarrockerDo you remember which you had?
03:58:15BC|Codei just go and buy the latest one at "Argos" and take it back when I'm done ...the last was an MZ-N1
03:58:29BC|Codenot always Sony ...Panasonic have some good functions too
03:59:12BC|CodeI actually hate MD ...but we were obliged to have backing tracks supplied on MD for the clubs' peace of mind
04:00:00kurzhaarrockerThere was one good Sony, the very first they invented. Everything else was unusable in real life because you couldn't change the gain while recording.
04:00:27kurzhaarrockerThus I never had a sony again...
04:00:51BC|Codeno, the sony's are more featured ...but not in the right places ...imho
04:01:05BC|Codeanyway ...OT ...I'm back to this code
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04:04:13kurzhaarrockerOne vital function for real life would be a single button (or combo) to delete the pre-last recording. Like "Lets keep that take for safety and see if we can do better" (BumbaSchranggKawumm) "Oh, we did better, lets delete that old crap we recorded before"
04:05:52LinusN"real life" == band rehearsal
04:05:53kurzhaarrockerNot a function a normal jukebox user would be interested though.
04:06:26kurzhaarrockerLinusN: ok, should have been "really life" :)
04:06:54kurzhaarrockerLinusN: I think in the long run I'll invent a plugin for band rehearsal
04:07:05kurzhaarrockerActually I already started some code
04:14:52LinusNprerecording committed
04:15:04*kurzhaarrocker jumps up and down in joy
04:15:45kurzhaarrockerLinusN: what do you intend to do next?
04:15:53LinusNsleep :-)
04:16:10kurzhaarrockerand concerning rockbox enhancements?
04:16:17LinusNseveral things
04:16:27LinusNauto-triggered recording
04:16:34LinusNrevamped UI
04:16:43LinusNmono-option for radio
04:17:03LinusNfile-based settings
04:17:26kurzhaarrockerIf you'd like to complete the other tasks first I could offer you to do the auto trigger thingie.
04:19:10LinusNyou could at least think through the options and the UI stuff, i.e "how do you want it to work"
04:21:18kurzhaarrockerI think the editor for the trigger params should be together on one screen, including a peak meter for testing.
04:21:58kurzhaarrockerThe params are attack threshold, attack duration, attack dropout and release threshold, release hold
04:23:40 Part scott666
04:25:50kurzhaarrockerSomething is a bit tricky: the threshold values should be displayed either in % or db, depending on global_settings.peak_meter_dbfs
04:26:56LinusNtry to express your ideas in a .txt file, so i won't have to search the logs for info
04:27:32LinusNno rush
04:28:15kurzhaarrockerAnd: Thanks Linus, prerecording is a real value boost for me :)
04:28:17BC|Code"error at end of input" ....oh how I hate that dumb message
04:28:45BC|Codetriggered recording will be the one I use all the time :)
04:29:01LinusNBC|Code: error at end of input?
04:29:16BC|Codemy code
04:29:25BC|Coderewriting big chunks of it
04:29:56BC|Codekinda required if you have plans of using it in the main code
04:30:30BC|Codeso lots of #if 0's and comment-out's everywhere
04:31:09BC|Codemoving toward a font based system rather than a graphical system for the basic screen
04:31:37BC|Codebut I have no font creator, so I 'm having to rewrite loads of print functions
04:32:33LinusNremember, your settings screen have to be able to use the builtin font
04:33:00BC|Codeif/when I manage to create a font it should be easy to modify
04:33:16BC|Codebut i need a 6pt font to get it all on one screen
04:33:33BC|Code...which is my PERSONAL aim
04:33:51BC|Codedid you have any ideas on what the "basic" MDB function should do?
04:34:03BC|Code...not sure the current system is best
04:34:07kurzhaarrockerI never use 6pt fonts -> I'd never be able to use your screen
04:34:34BC|Codeso you don't get a full audio mixer on one screen
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04:35:28BC|Codemy primary aim is to create a feature that I want ...and hopefully write it in such a way as it is useful to others
04:35:36kurzhaarrockerNot even if the screen may scroll?
04:35:54BC|Codenot really on one screen if it's scrolling?
04:36:01BC|Codethat's like 1.2 screens?
04:36:08LinusNmdb settings: center frequency, strength
04:36:32LinusNexpert settings would add harmonics and shape
04:37:06LinusNgotta sleep now
04:37:10kurzhaarrockerBC|Code: isn't it possible to write it in a way so that it scrolls if the font is to large?
04:37:15BC|Codehappy new year Linus
04:37:17kurzhaarrockerLinusN dream nicely
04:37:31LinusNhappy new year to you all
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04:37:57BC|Codekurzhaarrocker, anything is possible - but to satisfy my own desires first
04:38:19kurzhaarrockerdo so.
04:39:01BC|CodeHave to do a re-scaling algorithm for all the icons
04:40:10kurzhaarrockerwhy do you want to rescale icons?
04:40:34BC|CodeI don't ...but if others want larger fonts, then little icons will look silly
04:40:52kurzhaarrockericon height == line height?
04:41:04BC|Codemakes sense
04:41:32BC|Codeyou got fm?
04:41:41kurzhaarrockerhm. I think scaling icons is really difficult.
04:41:47kurzhaarrockerno, I've got a recorder
04:42:01BC|Codeit is ...and it will look crap ..but what;s the choice?
04:42:20BC|Codedrop the GUI idea?
04:42:25BC|Codego back to a TUI
04:42:51kurzhaarrockerStick with the system font and let the screen scroll a bit.
04:42:56BC|CodeIn honesty I'm guessing my new screen will never make it to the main code ...and will remain a rock
04:43:15BC|Codethere are no audio icons in the standard font!?
04:43:37BC|Codeso you think GUI is bad?
04:44:12kurzhaarrockerI think gui is great. But it's not good to tie the user with a special font other than the system font.
04:45:10BC|Codehmmm, but I am not writing this for the user really
04:45:27BC|Codethe user is probably happy with the restrictions that are currently in place
04:46:06kurzhaarrockerI see the benefit of small font and fittin all into one screen though. If you have nice icons for a 6 pt font just use them. Don't care about rescaling them online. Just my thoughts
04:46:57BC|Codehmmm, then I settle for a 2nd rate interface :(
04:47:28kurzhaarrockerActually I think that the avarage user will benefit from a nice gui sound menu much more than from that prerecording feature... which I really neeeeed.
04:52:16BC|Codehow much longer you likely to be online for?
04:52:29kurzhaarrockeronly a few minutes
04:52:50BC|Codein which case I shall bid ye a Happy New Year and let you get on :)
04:54:12kurzhaarrockerYou confuse me. In my timezone new Year still is the day after. :)
04:54:59BC|Codei will not be online tomorrow night
04:56:19kurzhaarrockerI don't understand it: Linus said he comitted, but when I update I don't receive changes
04:56:33BC|Codecvs is an illusion to me :(
04:56:40BC|Codeyou anonymous cvs?
04:56:51BC|Codesourceforge has a 24hr lag on anonymous cvs iirc
04:57:50kurzhaarrocker?!? How can that be! Do they mirror the real repository?
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05:03:59zsqareit's great
05:04:05BC|Codeit is indeed
05:04:14BC|Codedirty women
05:04:36zsqarehas anyone had a problem with dragging files with IE6?
05:04:45zsqarejust in general
05:04:50zsqarenot just to your jukebox?
05:04:56BC|Codeyou got IE ported to Archos? cool :)
05:05:05zsqarenot really
05:05:12zsqarejust in my computer you know
05:05:13BC|Codebein' silly
05:05:19kurzhaarrockerWhen I drag & drop my jukebox its broken.
05:05:52zsqareie, smartFTP
05:05:55*kurzhaarrocker uses opera
05:06:04zsqareopera too probably
05:06:07*BC|Code also uses Opera
05:06:16kurzhaarrockerAnd I'm off for bed now.
05:06:20zsqarewindows won't let me drag and drop filees right now
05:06:29BC|Codeyou want to drag a file from an ftp site to your archos using IE6?
05:06:33kurzhaarrockernever had that problem.
05:06:40BC|Codenite kurzhaarrocker
05:06:41zsqarejust from one computer to another
05:06:50 Quit kurzhaarrocker ("Trillian (")
05:06:59zsqarejust in "my computer"
05:07:21BC|Codesorry, NEVER use IE, never even SEEN IE6
05:07:31zsqareits all good
05:07:37BC|Codeso they tell me
05:07:51zsqarei can't figure it out
05:08:02zsqaremaybe it was this data miner i found
05:08:07zsqarecalled alexis or something
05:08:55zsqarealexa was the name
05:09:30BC|Codeyou have an os i never use running an app i never use screwed up by an app i've never heard of ...sorry dude, I don't think I'm gonna be of any help here :(
05:10:00zsqarethat's what i'm running
05:10:28BC|Codeanother 98 user in the world - hooraahh
05:10:28zsqarejust a little miscommunication
05:10:52zsqareyeah, 98 is the best that microsoft put out
05:11:02zsqarei hear windows 2000 isn't too bad tho
05:11:04BC|Codesince dos 6.20
05:11:14BC|Codeyes, ive heard that 2k is the next os of choice
05:11:49zsqarebut yes, when i try to drag and drop files from one computer
05:11:51zsqareto another
05:11:56zsqarein "my computer"
05:12:06zsqarei get an internet explorer failure
05:12:13BC|Codedo you mean "windows explorer"?
05:12:19zsqaremaybe i do
05:12:44BC|Codetake IE6 *OFF* your machine and install Opera is my most heart-felt bit of advice
05:13:09zsqareno, it just says explorer
05:14:45BC|Codeif you want 98 + dotnet, you can get IE5.01 from
05:15:30BC|CodeSP2 is buggy as warm-poo, I have yet to try 5.01 and 5.01SP1
05:17:29zsqarei had 5.00
05:17:40zsqarebut i don't think my version of explorer is bad
05:17:43BC|Codeyeah that's what comes with 98
05:18:01BC|Code<shrugs> reinstall it is then :(
05:18:03zsqarebecause i have several other comps that work just fine with it
05:18:16zsqarei need to just reload windows
05:18:27zsqareget rid of all the useless junk on my comp
05:18:28BC|CodeI'm amazed that someone as shrewd as you uses IE
05:18:46zsqarei know,
05:18:55zsqarei need to get mandrake as well
05:19:22zsqarei just upgraded my archos
05:19:31zsqareand now my comp won't even work
05:19:35BC|Coderewriting chunks of mine :)
05:19:36zsqarefor me to do anything
05:19:53zsqarewhat are you rewriting?
05:19:59BC|Codeaudio interface
05:20:22zsqarewhat are you doing to it?
05:20:28zsqareadding an equalizer?
05:20:50BC|Codelol - we don't have one in the audio decoder - but I am implementing fully every feature that we do have
05:21:21zsqareyeah, i saw the amperage selector thing
05:21:27zsqareto upgrade batteries
05:21:42zsqareto step up from 1500 maH to 1800 maH
05:21:50BC|Codeor 21
05:22:06BC|Codeor more as the months go on :)
05:22:52zsqarewhere's the syntax for the source code?
05:23:08BC|Codeany C reference manual
05:23:25zsqarenot c++?
05:23:25BC|Codedo you program?
05:23:40zsqareno clue
05:23:47zsqarei can do some c++ and java
05:23:57BC|Coderighty - C should be nice and easy then
05:24:08BC|Codejust don't try and use objects or cout
05:24:22zsqarecout is my best friend
05:24:35zsqarei'll figure it out
05:24:36BC|Codelearn to love lcd_putsxy
05:25:55zsqarei want to write a 21 program for the studio
05:26:01zsqarenothing graphical
05:26:05zsqarejust simply text
05:26:44BC|Codedownload source - ask me for 98 devkit - copy /plugin/hello_world.c 21.c .....hack away :)
05:29:48zsqareprobably not
05:31:00zsqarehow do i get the devkit?
05:31:25zsqarenot, 98 devkit
05:32:27zsqarewhat should i be typing?
05:32:41BC|Codewhat do you want to achieve?
05:33:00zsqaremake a program for rockbox
05:33:08BC|Codedownload source
05:33:30BC|Codeask me for 98 devkit
05:33:39BC|Codethen i send it to you
05:34:23zsqare!BC|Code-98 devkit
05:34:24BC|Codethen write your plugin around the example "hello world" plugin
05:34:36BC|Codeahhhhh "!"
05:34:42BC|Codesorry, got you now!
05:34:59*BC|Code missed the irc request line
05:35:25BC|Codei meeeaaaannn... literally ask - LOL
05:35:37BC|CodeI have afiak the only working 98 devkit
05:35:43BC|CodeI bodged it together myself
05:36:16BC|Codelet me sort it out...
05:37:06zsqareplease send me the 98 devkit
05:37:20BC|Codegotta remember where i put it...
05:37:37zsqaredude, this sounds familiar from so many times
05:37:44zsqarewith talking to other geeks
05:37:52BC|CodeI seem to have a 7MB version and a 13MB version ...I'll check
05:38:17BC|Codeahhh, it'll be the 7-zip one and not the .zip :)
05:38:58 Quit AciD ("Segmentation fault (core dumped)")
05:40:10zsqarethe if statements
05:40:14zsqareare weird looking
05:40:20zsqarebut i can get used to that
05:40:25BC|Codeidentical to c++ !!!???
05:41:05BC|Codeyou got file xfr problems?
05:41:24zsqareno, c is not identical to c++
05:41:29zsqarei never got that far
05:41:31BC|Codeif structures are
05:41:32zsqarei did
05:41:43zsqarethe if statements are not identical
05:41:56zsqarec++ is if(.....)
05:42:06zsqarec is #if......
05:42:26BC|Code# statements are preprocessor directives
05:42:38BC|Codeand are also available in C++
05:42:40zsqarewell, this might take a while
05:42:44zsqarebut it's ok
05:43:07BC|Codefor your purposes you can simply leave them alone
05:43:20zsqarei might want to
05:45:21BC|Codeyou need to press accept or something to get this dev kit
05:46:46BC|Codeyou can do a cygwin install and download the sh-1 tools from the web site if you prefer
05:47:45zsqarethanks for the crash course on preprocessors
05:48:12BC|Codeur welcome - always good to learn new stuff :)
05:49:47zsqareand i'm guessing there's a way to set individual pixels to true or false?
05:49:59BC|Codedrawpixel and clearpixel
05:50:12BC|Codelook in plugin.h
05:50:17zsqarein case i get real crazy and try to do a worm thing
05:50:41BC|Codethere a sprite routine et al available
05:53:16zsqaregotta go
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07:31:01midknight2k3hullo, empty #rockbox
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07:45:10GaryCan I ask a question about adding Rockbox to my Studio Jukebox 20?
07:45:42GaryThanks - i love it, but now my jukebox wont recognize my old playlists
07:46:31midknight2k3.m3u files?
07:46:35midknight2k3and rockbox won't load them?
07:46:45Garyi can see the playlist (yes, m3u)
07:46:56Garyand rockbox will load them
07:47:10Garybut it just runs a while and then says "end of list"
07:47:19Garynever plays the songs like it used to
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07:47:23midknight2k3that means there are no more tracks in the playlist
07:47:29midknight2k3are you sure shuffle isn't on?
07:47:45Garyyeah - im sure
07:48:00midknight2k3archos firmware plays them OK?
07:48:20Garyyes - i uninstalled the rockbox, and they play just like they used to
07:48:36midknight2k3which version are you running? pretty odd
07:48:45Garyjust installed 2.1
07:49:10midknight2k3so it plays some but not all then says "end of song list"?
07:49:23Garydoesn't play even one song
07:49:30Garyit's as if
07:49:48Garyit's saying the m3u file is empty now
07:50:01midknight2k3well, it should be compatible with archos playlists too...
07:50:10midknight2k3file a bug report, and see what they say
07:50:19midknight2k3and if you come back tomorrow there might be somone else to help
07:50:19Garyhow do i do that?
07:51:00midknight2k3yeah. hopefully someone can help more than i :)
07:51:09midknight2k3playlist specialist = hardeep
07:52:37midknight2k3er wait
07:54:54midknight2k3hrm never mind
07:59:29Garythanks for the website - looks like it's a path-direction problem
07:59:40midknight2k3my best guess
07:59:45midknight2k3but if it plays ok in archos...
07:59:48Garywhen a playlist is created on the pc and then transferred to the archos
08:00:00Garythe old firmware could figure it out
08:00:01midknight2k3is that the case
08:00:05Garybut rockbox can't
08:00:15midknight2k3make sure you let someone know
08:00:19midknight2k3other than me
08:00:27Garytomorrow (i must sleep) i am going to try recreating some playlists
08:00:34Garyon the archos itself
08:00:34midknight2k3lol ok
08:00:40Garythanks again!
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08:43:46ely78373whats this doom im reading about on the site?
08:43:51midknight2k3video player
08:44:02midknight2k3watch videos on archos recorder/fm recorder models
08:44:13ely78373i have a recorder 15
08:44:16ely78373i can watch videos
08:44:18midknight2k3then it will work for you
08:44:32midknight2k3it's not perfect but it's about 5x more than what you'd expect from the screen
08:44:54midknight2k3you need a video program to convert your videos to AVI uncompressed and to the size 112x64
08:45:05midknight2k3and that's about it... a few small tools and thats it
08:45:16midknight2k3tools are provided.. you need to size it yourself
08:45:20ely78373whats the video program
08:45:29midknight2k3you just need anyone
08:45:33midknight2k3to convert it
08:45:41midknight2k3we should get a tool for that
08:46:07ely78373i dont know how to convert my videos
08:46:13midknight2k3yeah hang on
08:47:09midknight2k3are you on broadband?
08:47:13midknight2k3there may be a tool for it
08:47:16midknight2k3but it's 15mb
08:47:48ely78373yeh i am
08:47:57midknight2k3just a second more..
08:48:51ely78373i already d/l the ajbrec.ajz & the video.rock
08:49:06midknight2k3ok let me make sure this tool works
08:50:40midknight2k3i think it works
08:50:46midknight2k355 more secs
08:50:50midknight2k3till see if its done
08:51:22midknight2k3yeah np, actually i might use this instead of Vegas :)
08:51:43midknight2k3ok done
08:51:46midknight2k3lets see if it worked
08:52:36midknight2k3i love this
08:52:47midknight2k3and you can select a batch of files to convert for AFK doing :D
08:53:11midknight2k3get this:
08:53:39ely78373its d/l
08:53:42ely78373a minute left
08:53:44midknight2k3but dont go yet
08:54:03ely78373thanx alot for the help
08:54:05ely78373were u from
08:54:31ely78373im in ny
08:54:43midknight2k3cold? snowy? wet?
08:54:43ely78373i was uplate with my friend helpin me with my comp
08:54:53ely78373i was havein ram problems
08:55:02ely78373it was actualy very nice today
08:55:12midknight2k3snowing here
08:55:15midknight2k3if you can believe it
08:55:25ely78373ok d/l finsihed should i install
08:55:31midknight2k3install all it asks for
08:55:36midknight2k3windows media codecs too
08:56:01ely78373i have those already i think but ok
08:56:26ely78373whats this windows media 9 setup runtime
08:56:26midknight2k3it shoudl just update them if they exist
08:56:30midknight2k3install that
08:57:30ely78373ok i finished installin
08:57:47midknight2k3ok run the program
08:58:20ely78373i need a reg key
08:59:03midknight2k3just hit trial
08:59:56ely78373ok im in
09:00:05midknight2k3got the video file there>?
09:00:09midknight2k3press the add button
09:00:15midknight2k3its a red folder icon at the top left
09:00:25ely78373ok i added a video
09:00:29midknight2k3navigate to the file(s) and select them and add
09:00:32midknight2k3now for the settings
09:00:37midknight2k3make sure "convert to AVI" is checked
09:00:50midknight2k3framerate: 29.97
09:01:07ely78373this is how it should always be
09:01:19midknight2k3one more thing
09:01:26midknight2k3choose "video settings"
09:01:38midknight2k3"output file resolution: custom"
09:01:49midknight2k3and put in 112 for the first box, 64 for the second
09:02:12midknight2k3hit ok and thats it. specify the path if you like in the lower left
09:02:16midknight2k3and hit Convert >>
09:02:53ely78373it says decompile
09:03:03midknight2k3under htat
09:03:33midknight2k3should have a button "decompile" and one "convert"
09:03:36midknight2k3at the bottomleft?
09:03:58ely78373yeh its goin
09:04:11ely78373it always takes this long for a music video
09:04:33midknight2k3you already hit convert
09:04:50ely78373after its converted i just put it on my archos
09:05:04midknight2k3a few more steps
09:05:33ely78373it will be cool if this works
09:05:37ely78373what archos do u have
09:05:39midknight2k3i should write a batch file that will do the converting from avi to yuv to rvf a simple process
09:05:58ely78373my friend just got the gmini
09:06:12ely78373ok its converted
09:07:09midknight2k3get that
09:07:40ely78373got it
09:07:40midknight2k3and unzip halftone.exe and avitoyuv.exe to a certain path you want (i prefer c:\rvf since the files are .rvf)
09:08:49ely78373u mean extract
09:08:58midknight2k3whatever lol
09:09:02ely78373my bad
09:09:25ely78373ok i did that
09:09:38midknight2k3do start, run
09:09:47midknight2k3put in "cmd" without the quotes, and hit enter
09:10:05midknight2k3should be a command prompt
09:10:28midknight2k3do you know much abotu navigating in DOS?
09:10:54midknight2k3do "cd .." until it says <C:> at the side
09:10:56ely78373i wish i did but i dont
09:11:01midknight2k3its not that hard
09:11:08midknight2k3just do cd .. till you get to c:\
09:11:34midknight2k3then "cd rvf" if that's where you extracted to
09:12:11midknight2k3or whatever folder
09:12:24midknight2k3if it's c:\stuff\rvf, do "cd stuff" then "cd rvf"
09:12:59ely78373not recognized
09:13:04ely78373i suck at this
09:13:05midknight2k3what did you try
09:13:08midknight2k3its not too hard lol
09:13:15midknight2k3ok what folder is it extracted to
09:13:23ely78373the one that u told me
09:13:40midknight2k3then do cd .. until by the side it says c:
09:13:42midknight2k3then do
09:13:43midknight2k3cd rvf
09:13:55ely78373i did cd..................................
09:14:03midknight2k3how many dots?! lol
09:14:04ely78373and it never said c:
09:14:14midknight2k3what does it say by the side
09:14:29midknight2k3like "c:\documents and settings\<username>" ?
09:14:54midknight2k3cd ..
09:15:08midknight2k3that should make it say "c:\documents and settings"
09:15:12midknight2k3then do cd .. again
09:15:20ely78373ok got it
09:15:21midknight2k3then it should say "c:"
09:15:25midknight2k3then do cd rvf
09:15:30midknight2k3cd = change dir
09:15:35midknight2k3.. means UP
09:15:41midknight2k3otherwise it's in
09:15:48ely78373ok im in that
09:15:57midknight2k3now move your output file from the video converter into the RVF folder
09:16:32ely78373the video that i converted is on my desptop
09:16:44midknight2k3move it from there to the RVF folder then
09:17:14ely78373sorry im such an iliterate
09:17:21midknight2k3lol its ok
09:17:46ely78373ok did that
09:18:00midknight2k3ok now for the long part
09:18:20midknight2k3first, you run the avitoyuv program with the format:
09:18:30midknight2k3avitoyuv <input.avi> <output.yuv>
09:18:45midknight2k3so if it were a movie "whatsitcalled" you were converting
09:18:47midknight2k3it'd be:
09:19:00midknight2k3avitoyuv whatsitcalled.avi whatsitcalled.yuv
09:19:08midknight2k3or you can rename the last one if you want
09:19:12midknight2k3thats what it will save to
09:19:17midknight2k3following me?
09:19:41ely78373how do i run the progfram
09:19:59ely78373i double click it and nothin happens
09:20:21midknight2k3from the command prompt
09:20:23midknight2k3type that in
09:23:57ely78373it said was unexpected at this time
09:24:56ely78373im gonna go the bed and try this someother time
09:25:01ely78373thanx anyway
09:25:02midknight2k3come back next time
09:25:09midknight2k3if you do want to try it later
09:25:16midknight2k3the format is the same for halftone
09:25:29midknight2k3but you do: halftone <input.yuv> <output.rvf>
09:25:36midknight2k3just the extensions are different
09:25:45midknight2k3then you can play the video by playing it on your archos
09:25:48midknight2k3the RVF file
09:26:22ely78373cool thanx
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15:36:57diddystar5is there anyone that knows alot about linux here (and maybe dual booting)
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15:48:48oxygen77what is your pb
15:49:54diddystar5im trying to dual boot lnux and windows with 2 hard drives
15:50:04diddystar5and grub want start windows
15:50:16Laurent_diddystar5: grub ? huh, don't know grub at all
15:50:27diddystar5and my windows drive is formated ntfs if it makes any differnce
15:52:26oxygen77what distro are you using
15:53:45diddystar5red hat.
15:54:43diddystar5when icommand grub to start windows is goes chain loader +1 and just sits there
15:55:10diddystar5oh, and for doing that, linux drive was set to master, and windows drive set to slave if it matters
15:56:00oxygen77ok I wont be able to help you,
15:56:13oxygen77I always install both system on the same disk
15:56:40diddystar5well, it should be sorta similar
15:56:48diddystar5what do you use to dual boot?
15:56:59oxygen77I use lilo
15:57:16oxygen77installed on mbr
15:59:42diddystar5i have some ideas
15:59:45diddystar5see you
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16:23:58webmindcos its fun? :)
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18:31:20Strathhrm... Laurent is not here
18:32:04Strathwas hoping to toss in on the gmini project
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19:05:23hoodibabaHi guys. I cam in here to say thanks for rockbox
19:05:30hoodibabaIt realls rocks !!!
19:12:01Straththink they're sleeping
19:15:43hoodibabaMay be
19:15:56hoodibabaWell so you use rockbox too
19:16:14Strathi've been here only a short while
19:17:05hoodibabaRockbox is really good man. It just changes the way we look at players too. The amount of info on the website is too good too.
19:17:05StrathI just had my 6000 replaced under a store service plan
19:17:45hoodibabaWhat went wrong
19:18:07Straththey replaced with a gmini120 and I went looking for information about it, then discorved rockbox... doh
19:19:29StrathI was not satisfied with the interface and my 2 year service/replacment plan was about to expire, (oh, and the adapter plug came unsoldered)
19:20:03hoodibabaHey gmini120 is coool man !
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19:21:14Strathi know... but the first unit they gave be was dead out of the box
19:21:26Straths be/me
19:21:59Strath(and it's one hour each way to the store)
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20:15:16Strathla la la
20:15:26midknight2k3LA LA LA LA LAAA
20:23:36Strathhey mid
20:24:29Strathreverse engineering the gmini is fun :)
20:25:59midknight2k3got a project started?
20:27:04Strathwell... in a colaborative way.... no..
20:27:26midknight2k3you should, at sourceforge and all
20:28:26Strathfirst i'm getting up to speed on the work of the others
20:28:49Strathi just got a (working) gmini today
20:29:26Strathso now i can start *real* work on it
20:32:26Strathi'm waiting for Laurent to show up...
20:35:45*midknight2k3 taps fingers
20:38:55Strathheh, well i'm also tracking down documentation while i wait :)
20:40:39midknight2k3FINE THEN
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20:45:47kurzhaarrockernot yet
20:46:37Strathnot you dumb arse
20:46:56kurzhaarrockerJust ignore me then
20:47:09Strathok, sure thing
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20:50:35midknight2k3sorry lol busy what
20:50:39midknight2k3just kidding
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21:37:19BC|Codeim gone in 2mins
21:37:23midk-afk lol
21:37:26BC|Codehey hey m k
21:37:32BC|Codetwo things.....
21:37:52BC|Code1. H-A-P-P-Y N-E-W Y-E-A-R E-V-E-R-Y-B-O-D-Y
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21:38:12*BC|Code sniggers
21:38:13midk-afki should make a new years patch lol
21:38:24BC|Codeoi oi
21:38:42BC|CodeWhat do we have in the way of floating point features for our C code?
21:38:50midk-afkthats 2?
21:39:03BC|Codemy Q is 2 :)
21:39:43BC|Codebut I don't think the right people are here to know :( ...never mind
21:39:50midk-afkdouble and float
21:40:05BC|Codewe can use them in rockbox?
21:40:09midk-afkafaik, yes
21:40:19BC|Codei wasn't sure that we had a floating point emulator
21:40:30midk-afki think we do
21:41:03BC|Codecool - that'll give me another approach to consider whilst I stay sober tonight (anit-biotics :( )
21:43:47Strathum... probly don't want to use floating point, even if availible
21:44:30Strathif at all possible, use a table
21:46:40BC|Codeyeah - i'll probably just bodge it by pushing it all up a few decimal places
21:46:55BC|Codeit's fixed point, so it should be simple enough
21:47:10BC|Codei'll just lose a little accuracy
21:47:12Strath(floating point chews up a lot of cpu)
21:47:36BC|Codecpu time is only a problem when you are short of it
21:48:11BC|Codeanway - thanks guys - i'm off now - enjoy yourselves
21:48:24Straththat usually works, (unless the value might overflow the data size)
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22:09:46arspy87hey all
22:09:51midknight2k3yo yo yo
22:10:16arspy87whats up
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22:13:51midknight2k3yo yo yo
22:14:02Strathoy oy oy
22:14:11arspy87sup sup sup
22:14:17midknight2k3erm.. no.
22:14:45arspy87yay fireworks tonight
22:14:56Strathgrr... tracking down dsp specs is rather dificult
22:14:56arspy87wow i'm a pyro
22:16:50Strathok... who here knows how to crack password websites?
22:25:45arspy87if(midk.text=="SDD") {midk==affirmative(previous inquiry)}
22:26:01midknight2k3close actually
22:26:17midknight2k3that could work in C
22:26:42arspy87oh i was doing it in actionscript syntax, but its sorta like C
22:26:50midknight2k3visual basic
22:27:00midknight2k3basic it'd work in
22:27:06midknight2k3and C if you setup the right variables
22:27:46arspy87if(midk.text==math.random();) {midk=affirmative(anything)} ;)
22:27:58arspy87darn emotes
22:28:04midknight2k3i dont se them
22:28:09arspy87oh good
22:28:10midknight2k3its cause you use TRILL SUCK
22:28:31midknight2k3actually thats busted code
22:28:37arspy87yeah i know lol
22:28:41midknight2k3oh wait
22:28:50midknight2k3is that a wink at the very end
22:28:51arspy87need to be random number of random characters
22:28:52Strathso what does that mean reguarding my querry?
22:28:52midknight2k3or part of code?
22:29:02arspy87the wink at the very end is a wink
22:29:06arspy87the other wink in the middle isnt
22:29:13midknight2k3what query?
22:29:28arspy87query woo
22:29:59arspy87where's blue?
22:30:29Strathweb cracking...ya ya.. i kow i cant speel
22:32:10Strathok, i'll shut up about that aspect of my frustration
22:33:00midknight2k3this may work for good code:
22:33:01midknight2k3#include "stdio.h"
22:33:02midknight2k3void true(void);
22:33:04midknight2k3void false(void);
22:33:08midknight2k3void main()
22:33:12midknight2k3 char string[20];
22:33:14midknight2k3 char sdd = "sdd";
22:33:18midknight2k3 printf("Enter text here: \n");
22:33:21midknight2k3 scanf("%s", string);
22:33:24midknight2k3 if(string=sdd)
22:33:26midknight2k3printf("Hey fatso!\n");
22:33:28midknight2k3 else
22:33:33midknight2k3printf("Learn to spell.\n");
22:33:36midknight2k3er the true/false isnt needed
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23:08:02arspy87hey kurz
23:08:15cYmen' evenin'
23:08:22kurzhaarrockerWhat's that noise outside?
23:08:43kurzhaarrockerSounds as if something explodes.
23:08:47cYmenwhat is the maximum dir buffer?
23:08:58midknight2k34000 files or so
23:09:04midknight2k3or was it 10000
23:09:17kurzhaarrockerYou can adjust it nowadays
23:10:05cYmenhm...can't be
23:10:14cYmenthere aren't so many in there
23:10:26midknight2k3#newyears has like 300 people in it
23:10:29midknight2k3its so hard to read
23:10:46cYmenuh that reminds me of sth
23:10:51cYmeni m off havin a drink with my friends ;)
23:11:05kurzhaarrockerI don't drink :)
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23:27:11kurzhaarrockerpatch uploaded :)
23:27:17midknight2k3WHAT PATCH
23:27:21midknight2k3TRACK SPLITTER?!
23:27:26kurzhaarrockervolume triggered recording
23:27:43midknight2k3auto gain control
23:27:51kurzhaarrockerno not that
23:28:07midknight2k3no its
23:28:21kurzhaarrockerYou put the thin on the table and it doesn't record unless something goes BANG
23:29:06midknight2k3recording auto detection
23:29:44kurzhaarrockerAnd you can adjust the setting so that a single BANG is ignored, but that there has to be BANGBANGBANGBANG for 2 minutes
23:30:16midknight2k3kurzhaarrocker: what are the settings?
23:30:29midknight2k3like, volume or noise and decay time?
23:30:33midknight2k3volume of noise*
23:31:37kurzhaarrockerstart threshold, minimal duration of starthreshold, stop threshold, minimal timespan of silence to stop, use the trigger, use it once, or rearm it automatically after recording has stopped
23:34:36kurzhaarrockerconcerning the split editor: I think I'll delay the upload of that patch until the mpeg engine has been redesigned.
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23:35:38midknight2k3kurzhaarrocker: very nice work
23:36:16kurzhaarrockernot really: When the peak meter is set to db, changing the thresholds doesn't work as expected.
23:36:50kurzhaarrockerAnd I suppos Linus will slay me for shreddering his lovely record.c code...
23:37:48kurzhaarrockerAnd the settings dont restore themselves yet. But you can store / load them from a cfg.
23:38:05kurzhaarrockerWhat's Imao?
23:38:50midknight2k3L m a o
23:39:03midknight2k3consider it "lol"
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23:58:25kurzhaarrockerSee you next year.
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