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#rockbox log for 2004-01-01

00:01:48***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
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00:22:44Straththats nice...
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00:43:01midknight2k3diddy woo
00:43:20webmindgelukkig nieuwjaar (2004)!!
00:43:34midknight2k3is it almost new years there?
00:43:38midknight2k3or already
00:43:53webmindit is already for almost an hour
00:43:57Strathonly 6 hours to go...
00:44:06midknight2k3webmind: HAPPY NEW YEARS
00:44:19midknight2k3Strath, 8 fr me
00:44:28diddystar5midknight2k3 dosent like redhat linux, while he has never even tried it
00:45:01diddystar5gotta go
00:45:02Straththats ok.. i don't like it either
00:45:09midknight2k3lmao diddy
00:45:11midknight2k3go then
00:45:13diddystar5bye midknight2k3 Strath
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00:45:23webminddiddystar5, i have.. and it sucks.. but not gonna talk bout it now
00:45:30midknight2k3it does doesnt it
00:45:40midknight2k3see diddystar thinks its so cool because everyone uses it
00:45:54webmindthen why doesnt he use windows ?
00:46:03midknight2k3he does
00:46:17midknight2k3but he's switching partly to linux, and he likes redhat because it's the hype
00:48:43webmindanyway.. it 2004
00:48:48webmindand this year feels good
00:48:49midknight2k3yes happy new year all
00:48:56midknight2k3i stay midknight2k3 THO
00:49:05midknight2k3stupid caps lock
00:49:07midknight2k3whats the point
00:49:30midknight2k3i not gonna be midknight2k4 next year
00:59:13midknight2k3GET IN #NEWYEARS
01:00:11webmindi tried
01:00:23webmindbut de to fucked up server policy couldnt
01:00:32midknight2k3this is INSANE
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01:24:46cYmenso what is the main language here?
01:25:03midknight2k3in here?
01:25:09midknight2k3english... lol
01:25:38cYmenvery well :)
01:25:48cYmenthat makes things a lot easier *g+
01:26:20cYmenok i generate a root says it creates "1" entry..and when i run it rockbox hangs up...
01:27:25midknight2k3what version?
01:28:21cYmennewest cvbs
01:28:24cYmenlet me check
01:29:39cYmenit may have something to do with my having a directory with more subdirs than fit into the buffer
01:30:16cYmen(though that still suprises me because there are only about 3000 mp3s in there and those are sorted into subdirs, and someone here said the dir buffer could take about 4000 dirs...)
01:32:27midknight2k3oh that was me i think :)
01:33:20midknight2k3got it
01:34:52cYmengotta reconnect
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01:38:14cYmenfigured out my problem while i was gone? ;)
01:38:20midknight2k3not really lol
01:38:32midknight2k3does it hang at the creation screen?
01:38:50cYmenit hangs when i try to play
01:39:09midknight2k3so it saves it ok?
01:40:39cYmenwell i don't know if it saves it ok but it saves something alright
01:41:00midknight2k3and it exits the saving screen without any input?
01:41:08midknight2k3try making a playlist of another directory
01:41:44cYmeni might try making a playlist of the biiiig dir
01:41:46cYmenwait a sec
01:42:39cYmenworks fine 2
01:43:45cYmenstrange huh
01:45:25midknight2k3try root again?
01:46:56cYmencounts up to 1
01:46:58cYmenand stops
01:47:26cYmenand it doesn t really hang when i try to play it
01:47:36cYmeni can still access the menus and adjust volume n stuff
01:47:39midknight2k3delete root.m3u and try again?
01:47:57cYmenbut i can't get back to the file overview kinda....
01:49:25cYmenhow exactly do i delete a file from within rockbox O_o
01:53:05midknight2k3then delete
01:53:10midknight2k3(sorry bit busy)
01:54:10cYmenhey it's new years eve who could blame you ^^
01:54:43midknight2k3...busy trying to decrypt something with no clue of the key. :)
01:55:39cYmenok now it hang completely ;)
01:56:10midknight2k3just wait
01:56:12midknight2k3dont turn it off
01:56:13midknight2k3let it go
01:56:43cYmeni didn't find a delete option anyway...
02:00:58midknight2k3highlight it
02:01:01midknight2k3hold on, hit play
02:01:05midknight2k3go down and hit delete
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02:03:37cYmenwell as soon as i hit play i get a (except for the status bar) blank screen
02:04:55midknight2k3at the dir browser?
02:05:13cYmenno when i hit play
02:08:06midknight2k3delete it bo on and play and try it over did you already
02:10:15midknight2k3 <- please sign
02:11:31midknight2k3lol Strath
02:11:34cYmenwhen i select the playlist and press on a "continue to play" dialogue pops up
02:11:57midknight2k3hold on and hit play
02:13:34cYmenhm k
02:13:41cYmendeleted it and created a new one
02:13:51cYmenstill goes only up to 1
02:13:56cYmenand keeps hanging when i try to play
02:14:33midknight2k3filea bug report
02:14:39midknight2k3i have no iea sorry
02:14:45midknight2k3OH unless...
02:15:09midknight2k3try making one in archos firmware
02:15:37cYmenlike i have a backup of that ^^
02:16:16midknight2k3have you flashed?
02:17:08cYmendid i mention i m new to this?
02:17:12midknight2k3if not, just delete the ajbrec.ajz
02:23:56cYmenthe original firmware didn t really have the ability to generate playlists from folders did it? :9
02:24:53midknight2k3er. no. lol
02:24:55midknight2k3never mind
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02:32:29kurzhaarrockerc0utta{eat} will burst. He's eating since hours
02:33:37midknight2k32.5 hours
02:33:47midknight2k3er 3
02:39:25Electronichappy new year all
02:39:56cYmenah whatever
02:40:02cYmeni m to tired to read the docs tonight
02:40:06cYmentnx anyway
02:41:12midknight2k3oh wait
02:41:17midknight2k3did you file a bug report
02:41:40kurzhaarrockerI file bugs, not reports
02:41:47midknight2k3talking to him
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03:35:01midknight2k3<kurzhaarocker> c0utta{eat} will burst. He's eating since hours
03:35:15c0uttayeah is saw that..
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04:38:16midknight2k3yo yo yo
04:39:16midknight2k3new years yet?
04:39:31BC|Code03.40 - back home
04:40:27BC|Codegf wants to watch a film...
04:40:49BC|CodeNow I feel like a right spod
04:41:06BC|CodeI wanna get my bcd input routines going!! LOL
04:42:19BC|Codethree bits left to tie up my audio stuff ...and she want to watch TV ...women!
04:42:59midknight2k3poor you :)
04:43:08midknight2k3i gotta idea
04:43:10midknight2k3say no
04:43:31BC|Codeno a good idea with gf's ...they have ways of making us regret it!
04:43:37midknight2k3yeh lol
04:43:51midknight2k3i gotta idea
04:43:58midknight2k3say in a few minutes
04:44:14BC|Codelmao - hmmmmmmm
04:44:26BC|Codethey're almost up!!
04:44:33midknight2k3i gotta idea
04:44:35midknight2k3finish them
04:45:09BC|Codewell, my mate at the party suggested a few ideas, so maybe I will write all the code in my head during the film
04:45:16BC|Codewhat time there?
04:45:26midknight2k3long way to go
04:45:28midknight2k3but lol
04:45:35midknight2k3its like, you stare at the screen
04:45:35BC|Codeyou'll still be here when i get back
04:45:44midknight2k3and then you're like yeah whatever
04:45:53BC|Codeyep ..been there!
04:46:04midknight2k3and thinking: hrm, if i do blabla... or...
04:46:08midknight2k3lots of time to think. :D
04:46:44BC|Codewell I got most of it now in BCD using shifted fixed point
04:46:52midknight2k3just draw it in your head
04:46:59midknight2k3do it backwards. thats the good wy
04:47:15BC|Codeanyway - i hear my name being called....
04:47:18midknight2k3come up with an idea, then a visual, then code it
04:47:21midknight2k3ok bye bluechip
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04:47:43midknight2k3"come on bluechip"
04:47:46midknight2k3"come watch tv"
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05:10:44toolkid46hey would someone be able to send me a list of instructions for how to gear up my jukebox to play movies ???
05:11:06midknight2k3toolkid46: working on it!
05:11:17midknight2k3it must be a recorder.
05:11:20midknight2k3or fm recorder
05:11:21toolkid46it is
05:11:28toolkid46i have 2 of them
05:11:30midknight2k3i'm making a tutorial
05:11:32toolkid46ones a recorder v1
05:11:36toolkid46ones a recorder v2
05:11:43toolkid46can i do with both>
05:13:24ricIItoolkid46, the only diff afik is the usb-ata brige
05:13:31toolkid46hey, does the "daily build" have it included yet?
05:13:42toolkid46so, the software is all the same
05:14:09toolkid46the v2 looks very much like the multimedia one
05:14:20toolkid46ive got this feeling that if i replace the screen or something.......
05:14:45ricIIv2, hmm maybe y'r talking about something else.
05:15:02toolkid46its the Archos Jukebox recorder USB 2
05:15:20toolkid46theres a sticker on the box that says "version 2"\
05:16:37ricIIhmm i got a usb1 & usb2 only the interface pcb look differnt
05:16:40toolkid46so anyway, do any of the "daily builds" contain the video thing already, or do i have to do it myself
05:17:30midknight2k3daily builds
05:17:39toolkid46that is the one i have
05:18:13toolkid46its 149 after rebate now, btw
05:19:08ely78373tzvi u rock man
05:19:10toolkid46ely is my friend, i understand you are writing him instructions?
05:19:32ely78373were can i get the plugins
05:21:26midknight2k3all done
05:22:16midknight2k3good luck
05:22:39ely78373but i got the dalily build and tried to play teh demo and it didnt work
05:22:46midknight2k3plugins too?
05:22:58ely78373were exactly do i put the doom demo video?
05:23:04ely78373any specific place on the jukebox
05:23:30ely78373i got the dailybuild .rockbox folder
05:23:36ely78373that comes with plugins in it
05:24:53midknight2k3ok got the daily build
05:25:00midknight2k3load the new ajbrec.ajz
05:25:02midknight2k3and then play the video
05:25:32ely78373i tried to play it
05:25:35ely78373it doesnt play
05:25:37ely78373nothin happens
05:26:08midknight2k3ok, you got the new .rockbox folder.
05:26:12midknight2k3latest daily build?
05:26:33midknight2k3go into that folder and go into the folder "rocks" and see if video.rock is there
05:26:34ely78373ok let me try something
05:27:15ely78373it works
05:27:18ely78373damn this is cool
05:27:42toolkid46how long would it take to convert say, 30 mins of divx to RVF?
05:27:56midknight2k3contrast up more for better visibily
05:28:00toolkid46also, what video/sound codecs does the jukebox support?
05:28:06midknight2k3toolkid46: just RVF
05:28:15midknight2k3divx? it has to be decompressed
05:28:23toolkid46so that would be huge
05:28:23midknight2k3decompressed avi, 112x64
05:28:27toolkid46got it
05:28:28midknight2k3not that big
05:28:29toolkid46so basically
05:28:33midknight2k3its small resolution
05:28:39toolkid46i convert an avi to decompressed, 112x64
05:28:42midknight2k3and it doesnt have to be too high quality
05:28:43toolkid46rename it to .rvf
05:28:46toolkid46and im set?
05:28:47midknight2k3no rename
05:28:56midknight2k3follow my instructions
05:29:01toolkid46i got them
05:29:03toolkid46thanks so much
05:29:03midknight2k3download the tools
05:29:10midknight2k3command etc
05:29:16midknight2k3i put in examples
05:29:17ely78373you the maqn
05:29:25ely78373yo tzvi im coming over
05:29:28midknight2k3hope i can submit it
05:29:32ely78373ull work this stuff out
05:30:17toolkid46u betta
05:30:35toolkid46so it takes long to convert, right?
05:31:16midknight2k3not too long
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05:31:34arspy87hey everyone
05:31:36arspy87happy new year soon
05:31:46midknight2k3youre not the only on on the planet, as
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05:32:57toolkid46hey thanks so much
05:33:06toolkid46ely is actually coming over to my place now, so ill figure it from him
05:33:30toolkid46why is it that only archos jukeboxes have other firmware
05:33:33midknight2k3lol 2 friends + archoses :)
05:33:38midknight2k3speaking of which!
05:33:41toolkid46does it have something to do with open source or something?
05:34:07toolkid46so there are no other "jukeboxes" that have "other" firmwares for them?
05:34:14midknight2k3please sign this
05:34:19midknight2k3to GET some more open source :)
05:34:37toolkid46its come to the point where archos is BETTER than the ipod
05:34:40toolkid46F the iPod
05:34:46midknight2k3oh yeh
05:34:55toolkid46all we need is a remote for the ipod now
05:34:56midknight2k3movies will impress you
05:35:03toolkid46and an fm tuner
05:35:04toolkid46i mean
05:35:23toolkid46i heard all the FM tuner ones dont work well
05:35:33midknight2k3your v2 has no fm?
05:35:41toolkid46no fm
05:35:58toolkid46thats it, on amazon, where i got it from
05:36:26toolkid46it might have an fm tuner thats just "locked"
05:36:27midknight2k3149 BUCKS!
05:36:31toolkid46chances are not, right?
05:36:44midknight2k3no. if it did, which some v2s did, it would appear at the main menu
05:36:52toolkid46well maybe its locked
05:36:56toolkid46like, hidden
05:37:00toolkid46because i didnt pay for it
05:37:16toolkid46but maybe its really there
05:37:40midknight2k3some had it, some later ones didn't
05:37:40toolkid46too bad
05:37:43toolkid46wasnt likely
05:37:44midknight2k3rockbox will autodetect it
05:37:47ricIIok I'm done with forensics..
05:39:26ricIIserver got hacked with a telnetd-ssl exploit, off to repair my rockbox, I got to see
05:39:51toolkid46i ahavent installed rockbox yet
05:39:58toolkid46on THAT one
05:40:03toolkid46so wait
05:40:05toolkid46even if i download
05:40:10toolkid46the rockbox for NON-FM ones
05:40:15toolkid46if there is an FM on it
05:40:18toolkid46itll pick it up?
05:41:06ricIIfm is all differnt hw
05:41:46midknight2k3v2 is FM in all aspects
05:41:51midknight2k3just with a different label
05:41:58midknight2k3and, in later models, no fm chip
05:45:31midknight2k3bye all
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05:53:46StevenmHey everyone
05:54:18StevenmSomeone plugged a 9V power supply into my recorder, only at the wrong polarity.
05:54:48StevenmThe device functions, but it smells as if some components may have been damaged. Can someone tell me something about the power circuit, what it involves, etc ?
05:55:18StevenmAnd my battery info (at the charge screen) shows the correct voltage, but it says, -1%. What does this mean ?
05:57:05StevenmLike, how does Rockbox determine the charge percentage, and what does it mean when rockbox claims the battery charge is -1% ?
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06:31:39Strathla la la
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06:32:05toolkid46hey could someone help me out with playing videos on the archos?
06:32:13toolkid46i cant get audio to work on any of them!
06:35:57Strathhow much should a 5V 2A car adapter cost?
06:36:21scott666as much as you want it to?
06:37:16Strathwell... i was just wondering if the one i'm building is actually worth the cost (vs store bought)
06:42:20Strathso far i'm $2 under the average....
06:42:38Strathbut thats using rat shack parts
06:43:54toolkid46could someone help me with playing videos on my archos jukebox?
06:44:14toolkid46i am able to convert video files and play them, but only without sound!
06:58:59toolkid46someone answer me pease
07:12:53scott666you just 'play' them in the dir browser
07:13:03Strathdon't think anyone here knows...
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07:16:51 Nick bc|bbl is now known as BC|Code (
07:18:02BC|Codethere is no sound support for video ....yet
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07:26:56midknight2k3hey bluechip
07:28:16BC|Codeyou another year older yet?
07:29:04midknight2k3nope. 1.5 hours till midknight
07:29:06midknight2k3i mean midnight
07:29:23BC|Codewhere are you?
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07:30:56BC|Codemust be west coast?
07:35:16scott666hes west coast
07:35:24BC|Code;) ta
07:35:41scott666total ammihilation?
07:52:57midknight2k3Anyone: sign the petition here:
07:56:18BC|Codebtw: Final Destination ...good film :)
07:56:33midknight2k3btw: sign it grr
07:56:41midknight2k3btw: or ill ignore you
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07:59:16midknight2k3as in, you will sign it?
07:59:30Strathgrrrr... where the heck is Laurent?
07:59:34BC|Codethought you were ignoring me - lol
07:59:51BC|Codeprobably out partying
08:00:32Strathgrr.... damn newyears... some people need to get thier priorities strait
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08:02:22BC|Codeactually, he's in france - it's 07:00
08:02:28Strathyou'd think new-years celebrations would be over in france...
08:03:14midknight2k3Strath, bluechip
08:03:17midknight2k3please sign
08:03:58Strathi don't have a riot.. though i did sign the archos one
08:04:10midknight2k3you dont have to have a riot to sign it
08:04:19midknight2k3if that were the case we'd have 20 sigs in about 500 years
08:04:29BC|Codeno ... mild aggrovation will do :)
08:05:06Strathwhat... you think that another manufacturer going open source would get the ball rolling on other manufacturers doing the same?
08:05:41midknight2k3i think we need signatures to get this going :) but yes actually
08:05:50midknight2k3some may follow suit if they see what's going on
08:07:03Strathor we could thumb our noses at the ones who don't and hack the shit out of thier devices
08:07:57Strathi think it'd make a good test case to bring down the DMCA
08:08:23Strath(civil disobedience at it's finest)
08:08:34BC|Codetalk is cheap
08:08:53BC|Code(now THEM's fighting words - hee hee)
08:09:34Strathnot when you're paying some shmuck in a suit $200/hr :P
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08:11:13midknight2k3sing it
08:11:17midknight2k3sign it* :)
08:11:34BC|Codeu bored mk?
08:11:40midknight2k3just bored
08:12:02BC|Codeever thought about doing something cool?
08:12:19scott666ooh! make a clock!!
08:12:21BC|Codedo you prefer peer praise or self gratification?
08:12:30scott666no ones ever gonna do that!!
08:12:55scott666its brilliant!
08:13:00Strathi prefer peer gratification :)
08:13:29midknight2k3stfu scott
08:13:36BC|CodeStrath: yes, but you're a pervert ....and you know it ;)
08:13:49midknight2k3scott tard
08:14:25*BC|Code sniggers
08:14:29scott666how many months have you been savin that one up for?
08:14:42midknight2k3just a few
08:14:56BC|CodeI'll leave you ladies too it ...I'm off to do some cool stuff :)
08:15:02scott666dont make me attack you with this wine* bottle
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08:15:26midknight2k3cool stuff?
08:15:33midknight2k3*not really wine
08:15:43midknight2k3*but close
08:15:47midknight2k3*but farther than ever
08:16:08midknight2k3you know you like bluechip
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08:20:50midknight2k3happy new year soon
08:21:02*scott666 is in the future
08:21:12midknight2k3SCOTT IS A SCOTTARD
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08:21:56BC|Codeimagine how you will feel this time next year when you have achieved your most favoured dream, and remember how you did it!
08:23:13MidK|BackInABitwhich is what
08:23:37BC|CodeYOU TELL ME
08:23:42BC|Code(oop - hex mode again)
08:24:25BC|Codewin over a specific girl is one of my favourites
08:28:07MidK|BackInABitwhy use caps
08:28:21BC|Codecos i was working in hex and forgot to turn it off
08:28:34MidK|BackInABitbut wh use it in the first place
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09:06:37midknight2k3happy new YAER!
09:07:02BC|Code"knew" lol
09:07:17BC|Codewhich goal did you pick?
09:13:38BC|Codenite all
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09:25:33Stevenmhey guys
09:25:56StevenmFor some reason, the rockox charging screen always says the battery percentage is -1%
09:27:33StevenmLike, the voltage reading goes up yet the percentage remains at -1
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10:00:20Strathhrm.... backdoor.... :)
10:00:44diddystar5heh someone is awake!
10:01:49diddystar5what timeis it for you?
10:01:56diddystar51:01 am forme
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10:03:06Strath3:03 here
10:03:33Strathjust getting some stuff soldered together...
10:03:39diddystar5cool what state are you in?
10:12:05Strathand just what do you mean by that???
10:13:31Strathuh huh... sure... nothing...
10:13:55diddystar5so what are you soldering?
10:14:37Strathvoltage regulators, wires, plugs
10:15:04Strathalso checking out some avos documents :)
10:15:04diddystar5do you know how to build a vu meter?
10:16:36diddystar5later Strath
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10:58:17midknight2k3bye all
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11:16:43StrathAFKola piggy
11:17:15piggy1any expert here? I ran into prob flashing cause the plugin too strick??
11:17:33piggy1did a google search and saw something close to it
11:17:42StrathAFKoy oy oy..... i should get some sleep
11:18:02*StrathAFK is not an expert (yet)
11:18:04piggy1happy new year!,
11:19:06piggy1I wonder who I email with this prob..
11:24:17piggy1ok. ne1 know how I can email [IDC]Dragon? He seem to be the one mod the plugin..
11:26:04piggy1sleepy.. every crashed... gnight.. happy new year.
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11:41:46StrathAFKwell, i'm going to bed... guess i'm have to catch laurent latter...
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13:39:42[IDC]Dragonhappy new year!
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13:48:07uski[IDC]Dragon aka Flash
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14:55:08c0uttau there kurz ?
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15:15:24uski[IDC]Dragon: :)
15:15:55[IDC]DragonHi there!
15:16:01[IDC]DragonJust sent you email.
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15:27:01uski[IDC]Dragon: yea i got it and i updated my website accordingly
15:48:42[IDC]Dragonwhere is that website?
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19:12:52trackhappy new year all
19:13:05Strathya ya... whatever...
19:13:15trackbought a new digital camera in the sales
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19:37:02kurzhaarrocker[IDC]Dragon: finished the new mpeg engine? :)
19:37:17[IDC]Dragonno quite
19:37:35[IDC]DragonI'm just walking around pregnant with it
19:37:58[IDC]Dragonthe low watermark gives me a headache
19:38:07kurzhaarrockerSo it'll take till september?
19:38:17[IDC]Dragonwhich year?
19:38:49[IDC]DragonI was evading it with easy things meanwhile
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19:39:05[IDC]Dragonlike moveing flip screen into F3
19:39:08kurzhaarrockerWhy is lowwater more problematic than it is now?
19:39:18diddystar5hi [IDC]Dragon
19:39:27[IDC]DragonI was thinking about introducing buffer descriptors
19:39:56[IDC]Dragonso the mp3 buffer can still be used in one big swoop
19:40:04kurzhaarrockera descriptor = from here to there?
19:40:21[IDC]Dragonbut the data can be handed piecewise to the play engine
19:40:48[IDC]Dragondescriptors sent to the sink are owned by it,
19:40:58[IDC]Dragonuntil they get returned when played.
19:41:18[IDC]Dragonthen the source is free to reuse them.
19:41:41kurzhaarrockerWill the sink have more than one descriptor at once?
19:42:00[IDC]Dragondescriptor: from, to, format, callback fn* when done, etc.
19:42:30[IDC]Dragonpossible, everything which is prepared.
19:43:49[IDC]Dragonso the responsibilities are clear, but I don't know how to bring the low watermark spinup into this.
19:44:28kurzhaarrockerThe source is responsible for the low watermark.
19:44:35[IDC]Dragongenerally, we don't need many descriptors.
19:44:56[IDC]Dragonyes, but how does it determine?
19:45:28[IDC]Dragoniff there is no notification from the sink, it would have to poll or such.
19:46:12kurzhaarrockerOr the source gives the sink only small descriptors -> increase of cpu use.
19:46:30[IDC]DragonI was thinking about that, too.
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19:47:20[IDC]DragonBut the amount of descriptors should not depend on the buffer size or our spinup.
19:47:46[IDC]DragonThink about 8MB boxes:
19:48:06[IDC]Dragonthat's enough to buffer >5 minutes of audio,
19:48:26[IDC]Dragonbut we want to spin up 10 sec before that's drained,
19:48:27kurzhaarrockerI don't see the difference.
19:48:57[IDC]Dragonso we'd have 5 min * 6 buf/min = 30 buffer descriptors?
19:49:11[IDC]Dragonto get the required granularity?
19:49:18kurzhaarrockerBut only one a a I thought.
19:49:32kurzhaarrockera a = a time a
19:50:57kurzhaarrockerIs more than one descriptor _needed_ simultaniously? They could be determined dynamiclly from the entire buffer space of the source.
19:51:16[IDC]Dragonat least 2, I'd say
19:51:27[IDC]Dragonbetter 3:
19:51:31kurzhaarrockerWhat about sizing the descriptors intelligently. Like give the sink a descriptor of buffersize - lowwatersize and have the lowwatersize in petto.
19:51:31[IDC]Dragonone in play,
19:51:43[IDC]Dragonafk, food
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22:16:31top_bloke!DmDserv Fear_Factory_-_Soul_Of_A_New_Machine_-_15_-_Desecrate.mp3 ::INFO:: 3.0MB
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22:19:05top_blokeoh crap
22:19:08top_blokewrong chan
22:31:08BC|busyanyone know if I can search the irc logs easily?
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22:32:39c0uttayeah BC - the google search on the rockbox page searches logs
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23:00:30GaryI need to ask someone about getting playlists made on Musicmatch
23:00:37Garyto work with Rockbox
23:00:50GaryI think it has something to do with absolute vs relative playlists
23:01:03Garybut i dont know much about it all - help?
23:03:53top_blokedo u save your playlist to the archos?
23:04:31 Quit oxygen77 ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/7]")
23:04:45Garyno - i saved about 250 playlists to my pc thru musicmatch
23:04:55Garyand then transferred the songs and playlists to the archos
23:05:05Garywhich worked, until i loaded Rockbox
23:05:18Garyi dont want to go back and resave all of the playlists again
23:05:25top_blokeupen em up in a text editor and see what they say
23:05:27Garyany other fix?
23:05:39Garyok - looking
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23:08:23Garyok this is one song on a m3u file on my PC:
23:08:27GaryC:\Documents and Settings\Gary Sutkin\My Documents\My Music\Sugar\Beaster\Bob Mould - Beaster - Come Around - 01.mp3
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23:09:10top_blokeis the mp3 in \Documents and Settings\Gary Sutkin\My Documents\My Music\Sugar\Beaster\Bob Mould - Beaster - Come Around - 01.mp3 on the archos
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23:09:44top_blokei doubt it
23:10:02top_blokeand this works on the archos firmware?
23:10:26edxhm.. i keep getting "dir buffer is full" on a newly copied rockbox firmware (only a few directories inside the root dir) - is this a known "bug"?
23:10:26piggy1ne1 know how I can contact [IDC]Dragon? I can't flash the firmware because the pluging is too stric..
23:10:51piggy1my rom is v1.15 and from reading archive, he is the one write the plugin.
23:11:12Garyyes - on the archos it is listed as the same
23:11:15top_blokeedx trun up the sttings for max dirs
23:11:20Garythe old firmware could recognize it
23:11:32edxits just two dirs??!
23:11:45top_blokemy bad
23:11:46edxafter a restart it works?
23:11:48edxstrange all this
23:11:55edxok.. thanks =)
23:12:10top_blokepiggy1 check the mailing list
23:12:19top_blokehis adress is all over it
23:12:40piggy1Yea? I saw something end with de. but that's email address?? ?
23:13:13piggy1yea, the link next to his name.
23:13:25top_blokethats prolly it
23:13:41piggy1if you click, outlook show up.. but I dunno thinik it's emai.. really?
23:14:01piggy1humm, ok. let's me give it a shot. thanks for the info is like .com
23:14:12top_blokefor some european country
23:14:34piggy1humm, but isn't email address usually have @ inside?
23:14:39top_blokeis denmark a country even?
23:14:49top_blokechange _at_ to @
23:14:56top_blokeand dot to .
23:15:08c0uttaspam avoidance
23:15:26top_blokewtf " New recording feature: Prerecord up to 30 seconds before you press the Play key."
23:15:30top_blokethis is awesome
23:15:39top_blokei just saw it
23:15:39piggy1ok. thanks
23:15:44c0uttagary: what happens when you play the playlist ?
23:16:00Garyon the archos?
23:16:21Garyif the archos is not connected to the PC
23:16:22c0uttai am assuming nothing happens
23:16:36Garyi get a "end of file" message (or something like that)
23:16:37c0uttayes, the archos must be disconnected
23:16:56Garyif the archos is connected, it plays the files from the pc
23:17:14Garyyes, the archos gives the message and nothing happens
23:17:14top_blokefrom windows?
23:17:24Garyyes, from windows
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23:17:45top_blokeso the playlist works in widows
23:17:54top_blokebecause its playing off your pc
23:17:59Garyyes, yes
23:18:10c0uttathe playlist would also work in windows if the archos was disconnected. it's refering to the pc hard drive
23:18:24top_blokeyeah but the playlist is on the archos
23:18:37Garythe old firmware got around this
23:18:53top_blokei dunno much about this
23:18:59top_blokei just have 1 playlist in root
23:19:01c0uttaeasiest way is to do a playlist generation on the archos and see what's different
23:19:21Garythe old firmware would read the playlist from the pc but still play all files without being connected to the pc
23:19:37c0uttai suspect that it's not in \Documents and Settings\Gary Sutkin\My Documents\My Music on the archos
23:19:53Garyyes, but it could find the files anyway
23:20:14top_blokearchos fw is smart
23:20:25top_blokei guess
23:20:37Garyyes, it is
23:20:53Garyi would love it if i could somehow change the directories of all of the
23:20:56top_blokemaybe the c:/ is throwing it off?
23:20:59Garyarchos playlists
23:21:21Garyyes - is there a way to change the c to f for all of the playlists?
23:21:41top_blokewell its not F to the archos
23:21:46top_blokeit is to your pc
23:21:54Garyoh yeah
23:22:09top_blokei dunno what letter archos gives it
23:22:15top_blokeor even has one
23:22:42top_blokemy playlist on the archos is like /My Documents/useless shit/Track 10.mp3
23:22:57top_blokeno letter at all
23:23:41Garyi could try opening up a plylist and getting rid of the C:\Documents and Settings\Gary Sutkin\My Documents\My Music\
23:23:59Garythru text editor - i just hate to do that to 250 playlists
23:24:12Gary(i like having "albums" on my archos)
23:24:54top_blokewell that depends on where on the archos the files are
23:25:07top_blokemake a playlist in rockbox
23:25:13top_blokein root
23:25:18top_blokelike c0utta said
23:28:15Garyok - working on it
23:29:20piggy1hey top_bloke. thanks for the help. Happy New Year!!
23:29:22top_blokeu know how?
23:29:33top_blokeno prob, u too
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23:32:19hardeephappy new year all
23:33:43Garythought i knew how, but i don't
23:33:47Garycan you walk me thru it?
23:34:18hardeepGary: you don't need to strip the pathname for your playlists to work properly, rockbox already does it for you
23:34:34hardeepGary: the example you gave (C:\Documents and Settings\Gary Sutkin\My Documents\My Music\Sugar\Beaster\Bob Mould - Beaster - Come Around - 01.mp3
23:34:41hardeepwhere is it on your jukebox?
23:34:54hardeepfull path that is
23:35:05Garyit is in a subfolder in which i also keep the files on the playlist
23:35:46hardeepand where are you storing your playlist on the jukebox?
23:36:42Garyalso within F:\Sugar are the six songs on the playlist
23:36:54hardeepGary: okay, and the mp3 file is in f:\sugar\Beaster\Bob Mould.... ?
23:37:23Garyno, just F:\Sugar
23:38:26hardeephmmmm, that should work... one sec
23:39:13Garydon't know if i said this, but all of my playlists were created by musicmatch
23:39:32Garyand then transferred to the archos with the mp3s themselves
23:39:51hardeepGary: yeah, my mistake, that playlist won't work
23:40:20Garyany way to make my 250+ playlists work with rockbox?
23:40:26hardeepif the tracks were in \sugar\beater then it would
23:40:43Garybesides recreating them all?
23:41:04Garyin other words, regroup my files and playlists by album?
23:41:27hardeepGary: yeah, either you need to move your mp3s around so the directory structure matches what's on your pc
23:41:42hardeepGary: or modify the playlists with the directory structure on the jukebox
23:42:59Garytrying the first...
23:43:44Garyi think it worked - let me try some more
23:55:39Garydoesn't work consistently
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23:56:11Garysometimes the playlist created by musicmatch lists the album title differently than it
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23:56:27Garylists it on the playlist
23:57:03hardeepGary: The mp3 file name is different then what's listed in the playlist?
23:57:04top_blokethats cause music match sucks
23:57:34Garyyes, yes
23:57:51hardeepthat sounds like a bug in music match
23:57:55Garyit's a small difference - such as adding the artist's name to the album
23:58:18hardeepthere are plenty of other programs you can use for creating playlists
23:58:31hardeepyou can even use winamp

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