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| 00:16:50 | midknight2k3 | idc |
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| 00:27:51 | midknight2k3 | diddy star |
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| 00:30:21 | NJoin | Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) |
| 00:30:43 | midknight2k3 | hi hadaka |
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| 00:34:49 | midknight2k3 | hi as! welcome back! |
| 00:36:22 | midknight2k3 | brb |
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| 01:17:52 | | Join atrack [0] (jirc@ACBC6BED.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:18:11 | atrack | Hi |
| 01:29:00 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@AC900FF4.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:30:49 | atrack | oh boy |
| 01:30:52 | atrack | hi mid |
| 01:31:57 | midknight2k3 | oh boy what |
| 01:37:28 | | Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACC2CE79.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:44:11 | atrack | hi diddy |
| 01:44:37 | diddystar5 | hi atrack |
| 01:44:41 | diddystar5 | do i know you? |
| 01:44:57 | diddystar5 | j/k |
| 01:45:01 | atrack | yes you do |
| 01:45:14 | midknight2k3 | track |
| 01:45:18 | atrack | "track" was beginning to sound pedestrian |
| 01:45:20 | midknight2k3 | what about the cdrw snappie |
| 01:45:21 | atrack | hi mid |
| 01:45:30 | midknight2k3 | are the batteries high |
| 01:45:34 | midknight2k3 | tall |
| 01:45:35 | atrack | almost |
| 01:45:35 | midknight2k3 | flat |
| 01:45:36 | midknight2k3 | whatever |
| 01:45:40 | midknight2k3 | i wnt to see it |
| 01:45:44 | atrack | oh shut up and behave |
| 01:46:06 | atrack | at least mikeholden has half a brain cell between his ears |
| 01:46:37 | midknight2k3 | wtf is your problem |
| 01:46:46 | atrack | my pc is fucked |
| 01:47:32 | atrack | so im not in the mood for any pisstaking |
| 01:47:40 | midknight2k3 | you take piss? |
| 01:47:42 | midknight2k3 | j/k :) |
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| 02:03:57 | midknight2k3 | fine atrack |
| 02:04:57 | atrack | im fiddling wiv my digicam now |
| 02:05:06 | midknight2k3 | you hate me |
| 02:05:07 | atrack | the best results come on the "manual" settings |
| 02:05:23 | midknight2k3 | yes. but do you know how to operate them? |
| 02:05:36 | atrack | there you go again, more mick-taking |
| 02:05:54 | midknight2k3 | mick taking? |
| 02:06:10 | atrack | im gonna go back to the archos firmware now |
| 02:06:20 | midknight2k3 | stay there |
| 02:06:22 | midknight2k3 | NON FLASHER |
| 02:06:27 | atrack | ok |
| 02:07:00 | midknight2k3 | your RED LED is on the WRONG SIDE |
| 02:07:31 | atrack | and? |
| 02:07:58 | midknight2k3 | and it's wrong |
| 02:08:09 | atrack | if u say so |
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| 02:08:37 | | Join atrack [0] (jirc@ACBC6BED.ipt.aol.com) |
| 02:09:11 | midknight2k3 | we oughta delete jIRC |
| 02:10:00 | atrack | we should delete you off the face of this earth |
| 02:12:18 | midknight2k3 | don't get spoilt. you'll blow up. |
| 02:13:44 | atrack | ok |
| 02:13:47 | atrack | whatever |
| 02:22:52 | midknight2k3 | brb |
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| 02:24:54 | arspy87 | *where* *is* *Bluechip* ??? |
| 02:29:00 | | Join mk2k3 [0] (~zakk@AC900FF4.ipt.aol.com) |
| 02:29:10 | mk2k3 | yo |
| 02:29:45 | arspy87 | hi |
| 02:30:02 | arspy87 | hi atrack |
| 02:30:37 | mk2k3 | brb |
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| 02:31:22 | arspy87 | yo :) |
| 02:31:28 | midknight2k3 | UGLY TRILLSUCK |
| 02:33:21 | midknight2k3 | brb once more |
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| 02:33:40 | midknight2k3 | great |
| 02:33:42 | midknight2k3 | auto connect works |
| 02:34:16 | arspy87 | :-) |
| 02:34:46 | atrack | h |
| 02:34:48 | atrack | hi |
| 02:34:55 | midknight2k3 | track is mean |
| 02:34:59 | midknight2k3 | therefor i hate him |
| 02:35:00 | midknight2k3 | therefore* |
| 02:38:03 | midknight2k3 | aS: any rockbox feature ideas |
| 02:38:06 | midknight2k3 | i'm about out |
| 02:38:17 | midknight2k3 | OH how about a rounded bar selector |
| 02:38:20 | midknight2k3 | like on the karma |
| 02:38:27 | midknight2k3 | not square |
| 02:39:47 | arspy87 | ooh |
| 02:39:51 | arspy87 | nice idea |
| 02:40:40 | arspy87 | and also |
| 02:40:47 | midknight2k3 | afad |
| 02:40:51 | arspy87 | grayscaled menus |
| 02:40:57 | midknight2k3 | yea right |
| 02:40:59 | midknight2k3 | no way |
| 02:40:59 | arspy87 | and a profile indicator |
| 02:41:06 | midknight2k3 | ? as? |
| 02:41:09 | arspy87 | umm |
| 02:41:10 | midknight2k3 | profile indicator? |
| 02:41:16 | arspy87 | yeah |
| 02:41:48 | arspy87 | id take a pic if my camera was installed |
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| 02:42:23 | midknight2k3 | what are you talking about |
| 02:43:13 | arspy87 | profile indicator on the progress indicator! |
| 02:43:18 | arspy87 | its one of the karma vis's |
| 02:43:24 | midknight2k3 | ohhh |
| 02:43:34 | arspy87 | lol |
| 02:43:36 | midknight2k3 | lot of work, that |
| 02:43:39 | midknight2k3 | but hey |
| 02:43:40 | arspy87 | probably |
| 02:43:43 | midknight2k3 | wait a sec there |
| 02:43:45 | arspy87 | k |
| 02:43:48 | midknight2k3 | it could work |
| 02:43:54 | arspy87 | cool |
| 02:44:11 | arspy87 | well you could have a certain height line be drawn for certain level of volume |
| 02:44:27 | arspy87 | there are 3 or 4 levels on karma |
| 02:44:31 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 02:44:52 | midknight2k3 | we could either do 2 or 3 levels per side or 6 levels combined |
| 02:45:20 | arspy87 | and place it according to the percentage of elapsed tiem compared to total time of the track, and use that percentage to locate the bar on the progress indicator |
| 02:45:51 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 02:45:59 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 02:46:01 | arspy87 | never mind |
| 02:46:02 | arspy87 | lol |
| 02:46:32 | | Join atrack [0] (jirc@ACBE4F2F.ipt.aol.com) |
| 02:47:21 | midknight2k3 | lamo |
| 02:47:35 | arspy87 | hi atrack |
| 02:47:46 | atrack | hi |
| 02:49:11 | midknight2k3 | he's a-track-ted to the iPod! |
| 02:49:45 | arspy87 | lol |
| 02:49:46 | arspy87 | really? |
| 02:50:03 | midknight2k3 | yup |
| 02:50:19 | arspy87 | iPod = bad, though |
| 02:50:41 | midknight2k3 | he knows |
| 02:51:02 | atrack | theres nothing wrong with ipods |
| 02:51:07 | atrack | they work and play mp3s |
| 02:51:15 | midknight2k3 | track: dont get started |
| 02:51:23 | midknight2k3 | ars: track hates the karma |
| 02:51:31 | atrack | that is my personal opinion |
| 02:51:45 | midknight2k3 | LD |
| 02:53:10 | arspy87 | the karma is a nice device |
| 02:53:18 | midknight2k3 | ok, inverted vid line with rounded edges it is |
| 02:53:37 | arspy87 | cool |
| 02:53:46 | midknight2k3 | SUAS |
| 02:53:59 | arspy87 | ok |
| 02:54:35 | atrack | well done mid |
| 02:54:50 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 02:57:03 | arspy87 | lol |
| 02:57:32 | midknight2k3 | dont be mean atrack |
| 02:58:30 | midknight2k3 | AFAD YOU TRACK |
| 02:58:52 | midknight2k3 | can i see a snappie of your mount ranier compliant bargain basement 52x cdrw drive? |
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| 03:00:17 | NSplit | orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 03:01:05 | NHeal | orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 03:01:05 | NJoin | Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) |
| 03:01:11 | midknight2k3 | OH I KNOW WHAT TO DO |
| 03:01:16 | midknight2k3 | A NEW ID3 VIEWIER |
| 03:01:27 | arspy87 | that would be cool |
| 03:01:45 | arspy87 | i have an idea |
| 03:01:54 | midknight2k3 | WTF IS IT THIS TIME |
| 03:01:58 | arspy87 | nm |
| 03:02:04 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:02:05 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 03:02:15 | midknight2k3 | "crossfader" right |
| 03:02:16 | arspy87 | it was for the startup |
| 03:02:19 | arspy87 | nope lol |
| 03:02:21 | midknight2k3 | ooh what |
| 03:02:52 | arspy87 | rockbox shoots in from 1 pixel, then use the grayscale to make a shimmer go across it - ill show you what i mean, i have a link |
| 03:03:16 | midknight2k3 | erm |
| 03:03:23 | midknight2k3 | ohh like |
| 03:03:41 | midknight2k3 | zoom in, hit the screen, and sort of a grayscale ghost fly past the lcd? |
| 03:03:46 | arspy87 | yeah! |
| 03:04:03 | midknight2k3 | so it stops but sorta keeps going yeah |
| 03:04:06 | midknight2k3 | its a good idea |
| 03:04:08 | midknight2k3 | but hard |
| 03:04:14 | arspy87 | and after that, up int he corner of the 'X' have a starbright flash |
| 03:04:55 | arspy87 | heres the link to the effect |
| 03:05:08 | arspy87 | http://www.flashkit.com/tutorials/Text_Effects/Making_T-Beyond_S-525/index.php |
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| 03:15:39 | arspy87 | brb |
| 03:17:12 | | Join Bluechip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 03:17:23 | arspy87 | Hi Bluechip!!! :) |
| 03:17:30 | Bluechip | eeeeeeevnin :) |
| 03:17:34 | midknight2k3 | hey bc |
| 03:17:44 | Bluechip | hey hey m k |
| 03:17:51 | arspy87 | I g2g but I'll be back in 20-30 minutes dont go anywhere! :) |
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| 03:20:47 | midknight2k3 | bluechip |
| 03:20:53 | Bluechip | yessum? |
| 03:20:56 | midknight2k3 | diddystar sent me your mas plugin thingy |
| 03:21:01 | midknight2k3 | majig whatever it is |
| 03:21:03 | Bluechip | did he indeed |
| 03:21:05 | midknight2k3 | it's very nice |
| 03:21:07 | Bluechip | lol |
| 03:21:12 | Bluechip | cool - thanx |
| 03:21:12 | midknight2k3 | but the mdb doesnt work? |
| 03:21:17 | midknight2k3 | it didn't work for me |
| 03:21:18 | Bluechip | no code! |
| 03:21:23 | midknight2k3 | that's the only th... ok |
| 03:21:25 | midknight2k3 | that's why |
| 03:21:38 | Bluechip | what I should have been doing for the last 6 hours,not chatting to friends on the phone! |
| 03:21:38 | midknight2k3 | but otherwise very nice |
| 03:21:43 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:21:47 | Bluechip | change one thing? |
| 03:21:48 | midknight2k3 | i have a request |
| 03:21:52 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 03:22:13 | Bluechip | name one way i can improve the plugin (apart from "finish it") |
| 03:22:20 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 03:22:22 | midknight2k3 | hrm |
| 03:22:41 | midknight2k3 | does "complete it" count? |
| 03:22:45 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 03:22:47 | midknight2k3 | hrm hrm |
| 03:22:50 | midknight2k3 | no no i can do this |
| 03:22:54 | Bluechip | :) |
| 03:23:01 | Bluechip | you mean it's 100% perfect? |
| 03:23:03 | midknight2k3 | I CAN DO THIS |
| 03:23:13 | midknight2k3 | DON'T GIVE ME ANY HINTS! |
| 03:23:41 | midknight2k3 | ohh |
| 03:24:08 | midknight2k3 | add a cool animation on start of the plugin: make it say "MAS" or something and zoom in and hit the screen and... yeah |
| 03:24:22 | Bluechip | lol |
| 03:24:24 | midknight2k3 | but that ties into what my original request was: you should make a cool startup animation |
| 03:24:29 | midknight2k3 | for rockbox itself |
| 03:24:39 | midknight2k3 | but yes, a startup animation would be neat |
| 03:24:42 | Bluechip | run a video? |
| 03:24:57 | midknight2k3 | what about a growing revolving MAS logo |
| 03:25:04 | Bluechip | if every time you went the audio menu it did some damn logo - i would go mad! |
| 03:25:09 | midknight2k3 | ok nm |
| 03:25:13 | midknight2k3 | but what about rockbox startup |
| 03:25:16 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:25:20 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Bluechip |
| 03:25:20 | Bluechip | [02:24] <Bluechip> run a video? |
| 03:25:26 | midknight2k3 | thats not possible |
| 03:25:32 | midknight2k3 | unless we read from disk what the video is |
| 03:25:35 | midknight2k3 | well |
| 03:25:40 | midknight2k3 | would be too complicated |
| 03:25:48 | midknight2k3 | just a small enhancement over the rockbox logo |
| 03:26:02 | Bluechip | yeaj load_plugin(video, startup.rvf) |
| 03:26:08 | Bluechip | ...not my idea of difficult |
| 03:26:17 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 03:26:21 | midknight2k3 | OH |
| 03:26:23 | midknight2k3 | can you code that |
| 03:26:33 | midknight2k3 | if you could that'd be so cool |
| 03:26:33 | Bluechip | i just did! |
| 03:26:36 | midknight2k3 | make your own startup thing |
| 03:26:40 | midknight2k3 | well, make it work. :) |
| 03:27:17 | Bluechip | if you refuse to write ONE line of code ...I will add it to the bottom of my list labelled "stuff to do with the rest of my life" |
| 03:27:34 | midknight2k3 | lmao |
| 03:27:37 | midknight2k3 | no thats not what i mean |
| 03:27:43 | midknight2k3 | thats it |
| 03:27:56 | midknight2k3 | just stick that in apps/playlist.c and it will work? |
| 03:28:10 | midknight2k3 | i see NO WAY to make that work with just that one line of code |
| 03:29:15 | Bluechip | unlucky |
| 03:29:20 | Bluechip | :( |
| 03:29:24 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 03:29:32 | Bluechip | you can't see it ....that sucks |
| 03:29:40 | midknight2k3 | erm |
| 03:29:50 | midknight2k3 | ok, any idea where to stick it? |
| 03:30:00 | Bluechip | yep |
| 03:30:22 | midknight2k3 | ok, can you tell me where you think it needs to be sticked? |
| 03:30:38 | Bluechip | where exactly would you like to see it played ...at what precise point? |
| 03:31:09 | midknight2k3 | right on boot. |
| 03:31:38 | Bluechip | impossible ...you need to spin up the HDD first |
| 03:31:51 | midknight2k3 | ok, we can get technical |
| 03:31:55 | midknight2k3 | ASAP |
| 03:32:45 | Bluechip | ASAP? ...yes, a technical term my boss used to use a lot too ...in which case the 'technical' answer will be ...right at the start of the code |
| 03:33:19 | midknight2k3 | OH FORGET IT |
| 03:33:25 | Bluechip | forget what? |
| 03:33:25 | midknight2k3 | i bet that was your plan |
| 03:33:42 | Bluechip | God makes all the plans ....I just sign the cheques |
| 03:33:42 | midknight2k3 | bother me about details until i give up and you don't have to demo the code |
| 03:34:24 | Bluechip | but you prefer to give up rather than answer a straight and fair question ...why should I deprive you of the opportunity |
| 03:34:58 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 03:35:04 | midknight2k3 | put it whereever you like |
| 03:35:08 | midknight2k3 | i'd just like to see it work |
| 03:35:09 | Bluechip | bend over |
| 03:35:13 | Bluechip | lol |
| 03:35:29 | midknight2k3 | put it anywhere in the CODE you like |
| 03:35:41 | Bluechip | erm ...no |
| 03:35:55 | Bluechip | you want it - you do it ....you don't want it ...you don't do it! |
| 03:36:05 | Bluechip | its a free choice |
| 03:36:25 | Bluechip | or maybe you could blame someone else ...that would be unusual |
| 03:36:42 | midknight2k3 | never mind, bluechip |
| 03:36:43 | midknight2k3 | please |
| 03:37:18 | Bluechip | okay ...never it is :) ...you're welcome :) |
| 03:37:37 | midknight2k3 | thank you |
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| 03:42:08 | | Nick Bluechip is now known as BC|code (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 03:42:08 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK BC|code |
| 03:42:27 | arspy87 | Coding, eh? |
| 03:42:50 | BC|code | indeed |
| 03:42:57 | arspy87 | what is it this time? |
| 03:43:04 | BC|code | 2:42 |
| 03:43:07 | BC|code | 3 |
| 03:43:27 | arspy87 | no i mean what are you coding now ;) |
| 03:43:31 | midknight2k3 | what are you CODING this tiem |
| 03:43:42 | arspy87 | time* |
| 03:43:56 | BC|code | yeah ...mind is elsewhere ...adding mdb & other new features |
| 03:44:08 | arspy87 | :) cool |
| 03:46:08 | BC|code | still not found anything to help me calculate an accurate response graph |
| 03:46:14 | midknight2k3 | afad? |
| 03:46:35 | BC|code | mdb |
| 03:46:37 | midknight2k3 | bluechip: are you planning to replace "sound settings menu" with your plugin? |
| 03:46:48 | midknight2k3 | or have "sound settings" link to the plugin? |
| 03:47:01 | BC|code | no, i'm just planning on writing it ...others can decide if they want it in RAM |
| 03:47:24 | midknight2k3 | i mean having "Sound Settings" call your plugin |
| 03:47:34 | BC|code | I will just get my jukebox to load_plugin(audio) when I select sound |
| 03:47:35 | BC|code | lol |
| 03:47:45 | arspy87 | :) |
| 03:47:57 | midknight2k3 | i want startup animations |
| 03:47:59 | arspy87 | i got my new headphones today btw |
| 03:48:02 | midknight2k3 | i may be able to do it |
| 03:48:05 | BC|code | what dyou get? |
| 03:48:12 | arspy87 | sennheiser hd 212 pro |
| 03:48:19 | BC|code | (%*$*)* % 65 96 &^%^% *^%*^%* |
| 03:48:25 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 16 minutes and 48 seconds at the last flood |
| 03:48:25 | * | BC|code is envious |
| 03:48:29 | * | BC|code VERY |
| 03:48:38 | midknight2k3 | bc: ? |
| 03:48:40 | arspy87 | :) they're nice |
| 03:48:47 | BC|code | yes, they are :) |
| 03:49:04 | arspy87 | the bass response is amazing, it feels like you're next to a subwoofer |
| 03:49:22 | midknight2k3 | bc: get that mdb finished :) no rush |
| 03:49:24 | midknight2k3 | but it sounds nice |
| 03:49:26 | BC|code | now all you need is something to read when you listen :) |
| 03:49:28 | midknight2k3 | i have the same ones |
| 03:49:34 | midknight2k3 | but it sounds SUPER with mdb |
| 03:49:43 | midknight2k3 | cutoff at 30 or 40hz |
| 03:49:45 | BC|code | how would you know????? |
| 03:49:46 | midknight2k3 | power 100% |
| 03:49:51 | midknight2k3 | harmonics 0% |
| 03:49:59 | midknight2k3 | there was an mdb patch earlier |
| 03:50:06 | BC|code | LOL |
| 03:50:07 | midknight2k3 | very VERY NICE |
| 03:50:10 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 03:50:19 | arspy87 | BC, you can get these 'phones for 30 bucks on amazon i hear |
| 03:50:21 | BC|code | why is it not available any more |
| 03:50:24 | midknight2k3 | it is |
| 03:50:25 | midknight2k3 | bc |
| 03:50:31 | midknight2k3 | it's just in an enhanced menu patch |
| 03:50:32 | BC|code | maybe I am mistaking them for something else |
| 03:50:37 | midknight2k3 | bc: ? |
| 03:50:49 | arspy87 | they were 60 at circuit city where i got them |
| 03:50:59 | BC|code | the one's I looked at were about $900 |
| 03:51:00 | midknight2k3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=793706 |
| 03:51:04 | midknight2k3 | WTF |
| 03:51:06 | midknight2k3 | 900 bucks |
| 03:51:07 | midknight2k3 | yeah right |
| 03:51:09 | arspy87 | lmao, wrong ones BC :) |
| 03:51:34 | BC|code | lol |
| 03:51:35 | arspy87 | how about teh senn premier series? |
| 03:51:43 | arspy87 | those are what, in the thousands? |
| 03:52:04 | BC|code | it was at an audio specialist up the road a year or so back, thought i recognised the number |
| 03:52:23 | BC|code | kinda hoping for a set of etymoic's now I know they make them |
| 03:52:42 | arspy87 | ah yes, the Orpheus are 15k!!! |
| 03:52:45 | BC|code | I use etymoic ear plugs on stage - nothing beats them |
| 03:52:50 | midknight2k3 | 15k!? |
| 03:52:55 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 03:52:59 | midknight2k3 | 15,000 dollars? |
| 03:53:04 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 03:53:12 | midknight2k3 | 1,500? |
| 03:53:24 | BC|code | you're embarrasing yourself mk |
| 03:53:26 | arspy87 | no, 15,000 |
| 03:53:30 | midknight2k3 | no way |
| 03:53:32 | midknight2k3 | not possible |
| 03:53:53 | arspy87 | http://www.sennheiserusa.com/pages/products/headphones/orpheus.htm |
| 03:54:05 | arspy87 | click on Premier |
| 03:54:41 | midknight2k3 | WHOA |
| 03:54:44 | midknight2k3 | NOT POSSIBLE |
| 03:55:18 | midknight2k3 | i bet they got about one customer for that one |
| 03:55:27 | arspy87 | the hd 212 pro's are closed |
| 03:56:16 | BC|code | lol - "Single-sided, detachable, kevlar-reinforced OFC signal cable" |
| 03:56:28 | BC|code | kevlar cables!!! |
| 03:56:35 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 03:56:43 | midknight2k3 | insane |
| 03:57:17 | BC|code | geez, these things are CHEAP in the states! |
| 03:57:29 | arspy87 | lol |
| 03:57:39 | BC|code | UK sucks! |
| 03:57:39 | arspy87 | 15k is not small change! |
| 03:58:05 | arspy87 | i heard somewhere that studio monitoring closed headphones are bad for your ears - true? |
| 03:58:27 | BC|code | to a degree yes |
| 03:58:40 | BC|code | but I prefer the sound |
| 03:59:22 | arspy87 | bad idea to listen to them for extended periods i guess |
| 03:59:50 | midknight2k3 | define extended periods |
| 03:59:54 | midknight2k3 | does a few years count? |
| 03:59:57 | BC|code | bah - everything's bad for you |
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| 04:00:00 | arspy87 | lol |
| 04:00:04 | BC|code | die happy :) |
| 04:00:14 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 04:00:34 | BC|code | any fun at the book shop spy? |
| 04:01:13 | arspy87 | oh, i didnt make it today :( |
| 04:01:39 | BC|code | that's cool too ...did you try any of the trance phrases out on your folks? |
| 04:02:09 | arspy87 | on my friend, and it worked |
| 04:02:13 | BC|code | ;) |
| 04:02:16 | arspy87 | :) |
| 04:02:44 | BC|code | you could have told him ANYTHING in that state :S |
| 04:03:39 | arspy87 | probably lol |
| 04:03:50 | BC|code | really! LMAO |
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| 04:04:14 | arspy87 | :-D |
| 04:04:14 | BC|code | this is OT .... |
| 04:09:38 | BC|code | what's the cutoff freq on those headphones? |
| 04:09:49 | midknight2k3 | who cares |
| 04:09:56 | BC|code | the mdb protocol |
| 04:10:06 | midknight2k3 | i like 30 or 40hz |
| 04:10:17 | midknight2k3 | with 0 harmonics, full strength |
| 04:10:22 | arspy87 | the 212 pros? |
| 04:10:26 | BC|code | yeah |
| 04:11:00 | arspy87 | freq response is 12 - 19000hz |
| 04:11:49 | midknight2k3 | 19000 lol |
| 04:12:12 | arspy87 | ? |
| 04:12:21 | midknight2k3 | nm |
| 04:12:37 | arspy87 | it seems low |
| 04:12:41 | arspy87 | but sounds good anyway |
| 04:12:45 | BC|code | wonder if that's for real or under test conditions ...seems VERY low |
| 04:13:40 | midknight2k3 | what |
| 04:13:43 | midknight2k3 | nm |
| 04:14:02 | BC|code | is never forever? |
| 04:14:09 | arspy87 | ? |
| 04:14:17 | BC|code | <midknight2k3> nm |
| 04:14:26 | arspy87 | oh lol |
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| 04:25:18 | Strath | hello hello hello |
| 04:25:24 | BC|code | hi hi hi |
| 04:25:31 | midknight2k3 | ugh |
| 04:25:35 | midknight2k3 | its strath :) |
| 04:25:37 | Strath | hows it going? |
| 04:25:37 | midknight2k3 | j/k |
| 04:25:46 | Strath | pbth :P |
| 04:25:49 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 04:26:18 | arspy87 | mk tell 'em about my startup screen idea :) |
| 04:26:39 | midknight2k3 | bc can do it with one line of code |
| 04:26:47 | midknight2k3 | sort of |
| 04:26:52 | Strath | heh |
| 04:27:06 | Strath | define "line" :) |
| 04:27:38 | BC|code | then define mirror and razor blade |
| 04:27:51 | BC|code | sorry i mean... |
| 04:28:01 | BC|code | without using the words "mirror" or "razor blade" |
| 04:28:11 | arspy87 | however much 1 point closely kerned fonts can fit across the horizontal diameter of a screen in 2048x1576 mode |
| 04:28:19 | midknight2k3 | mirror: reflection |
| 04:28:26 | midknight2k3 | razor blade: sharp object |
| 04:28:58 | Strath | you must not be an example of one then.. |
| 04:29:00 | arspy87 | BC: ^^^ |
| 04:29:24 | BC|code | you place the drugs on the reflaction and shuffle them about with a sharp object |
| 04:29:57 | midknight2k3 | yup |
| 04:30:01 | BC|code | LOL |
| 04:30:19 | arspy87 | reflaction eh? |
| 04:30:24 | arspy87 | reflection + refraction? |
| 04:30:32 | BC|code | indeed :) |
| 04:32:06 | Strath | and might i ask what that has to do with a startup screen? |
| 04:32:39 | BC|code | by all means ...take the mic :) |
| 04:32:44 | arspy87 | ok |
| 04:32:45 | arspy87 | well |
| 04:32:57 | arspy87 | midk can explain it better :) |
| 04:33:17 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 04:33:22 | arspy87 | but my idea was to have the rockbox logo fly in from 1 pixel int he middle of the screen |
| 04:33:33 | BC|code | video can be initiated on startup with one "line" of code ..."line" can be used easily as a pun hook to obscure drugs reference |
| 04:33:36 | arspy87 | and then have a grayscale "ghost" run masked across the type like a shimmer |
| 04:34:18 | arspy87 | adn after that a starbright in the upper right corner of the x flash ina nd out |
| 04:34:36 | BC|code | can it take about 15 seconds to run? |
| 04:34:49 | midknight2k3 | well |
| 04:34:52 | BC|code | then we can get rockbox to boot as slow as old archos firmware |
| 04:34:53 | midknight2k3 | the way i see it |
| 04:35:00 | midknight2k3 | about 3 seconds |
| 04:35:01 | Strath | i'd say 5-7 secongs at most... |
| 04:35:34 | midknight2k3 | zoom in in about 1, have a ghost go farther in about 0.5, then the glimmer about 2 |
| 04:36:18 | BC|code | you impress me mk ...didn't realise your math was up to scale and zoom algorithms |
| 04:36:20 | * | BC|code bows |
| 04:36:48 | midknight2k3 | tee hee |
| 04:36:59 | BC|code | I am CRAP at math! |
| 04:37:22 | arspy87 | ^ ditto ^ i hate precalc. |
| 04:38:43 | BC|code | mk, do you use lookup tables or float for your stuff? |
| 04:38:59 | BC|code | ...or a.n.other |
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| 04:46:49 | arspy87 | i g2g, nice talking |
| 04:47:23 | arspy87 | nite everyone |
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| 04:52:45 | midknight2k3 | demo boot video concept thing: |
| 04:53:04 | midknight2k3 | midknight2k3/rockbox-boot.wmv">http://freewebs.com/midknight2k3/rockbox-boot.wmv |
| 04:57:07 | BC|code | not bad - now to make it run at boot |
| 04:57:15 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 04:57:19 | midknight2k3 | updated version in a sec |
| 04:57:52 | BC|code | tell me when you got it just right |
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| 05:06:59 | midknight2k3 | ok i think i got it |
| 05:07:02 | midknight2k3 | let me upload it |
| 05:07:34 | BC|code | this is ur best one yes?s |
| 05:07:40 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 05:07:42 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 05:08:39 | midknight2k3 | uploading |
| 05:08:50 | midknight2k3 | if it is uploading |
| 05:10:47 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 05:10:48 | midknight2k3 | here it is |
| 05:10:53 | midknight2k3 | midknight2k3/rockbox-boot2.wmv">http://freewebs.com/midknight2k3/rockbox-boot2.wmv |
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| 05:14:26 | BC|code | cool - i would start the sparkle when the zoom ends - but yes, very nice |
| 05:14:42 | midknight2k3 | i'll fix it |
| 05:16:10 | BC|code | "listen very carefully , i shall say this only once" ...british comedy joke |
| 05:16:42 | midknight2k3 | erm |
| 05:16:58 | midknight2k3 | right |
| 05:17:40 | BC|code | nick the load_plugin() example from tree.c in the run-video section, edit it so that instead of "filename" you actually put the right filename, put it just before broswe_root in main.c |
| 05:18:24 | midknight2k3 | will try |
| 05:18:59 | midknight2k3 | i'm assuming there is more work than this required? |
| 05:22:30 | BC|code | yes, you will also need to convert your movie to rockbox format |
| 05:22:39 | midknight2k3 | well yeah |
| 05:22:48 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 05:22:52 | midknight2k3 | let me try this |
| 05:24:08 | midknight2k3 | ok vid works |
| 05:24:11 | midknight2k3 | now to code it |
| 05:25:17 | midknight2k3 | ok nicked.. |
| 05:25:55 | midknight2k3 | like so?: |
| 05:25:56 | midknight2k3 | static bool dirbrowse(char *root, int *dirfilter); |
| 05:25:56 | midknight2k3 | plugin_load("/.rockbox/rocks/video.rock",boot.rvf); |
| 05:25:56 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
| 05:25:56 | midknight2k3 | void browse_root(void) |
| 05:25:56 | midknight2k3 | { |
| 05:26:05 | midknight2k3 | or should it be /boot.rvf ? |
| 05:26:20 | BC|code | "/kjjhkljl" |
| 05:26:34 | midknight2k3 | kjjhkljl? |
| 05:26:40 | BC|code | whatever |
| 05:26:47 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 05:27:03 | BC|code | before browse is CALLED not defined! |
| 05:27:14 | midknight2k3 | oops |
| 05:27:18 | midknight2k3 | wait |
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| 05:27:21 | midknight2k3 | oops |
| 05:27:23 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 05:27:27 | BC|code | lol |
| 05:27:41 | midknight2k3 | i was just about to pelt you with errors |
| 05:28:02 | midknight2k3 | that's all there is in tree.c |
| 05:28:05 | midknight2k3 | for browse_root |
| 05:28:13 | BC|code | it might be courteous to dump code in a private window |
| 05:28:24 | midknight2k3 | ok sir |
| 05:28:32 | midknight2k3 | erm |
| 05:30:24 | BC|code | and what file are you looking in? |
| 05:30:31 | midknight2k3 | tree.c? |
| 05:31:02 | BC|code | lol |
| 05:31:10 | midknight2k3 | ... |
| 05:31:28 | BC|code | can't repeat ...busy |
| 05:31:44 | midknight2k3 | OOPS |
| 05:39:31 | midknight2k3 | nite all |
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| 10:06:45 | BC|code | mornin all |
| 10:07:28 | BC|code | does anyone know why "creat" insists on putting a Read-Only flag on every file it creates? |
| 10:11:11 | kurzhaarrocker | you mean cvs? |
| 10:11:28 | BC|code | no the rockbox file.c function calls |
| 10:12:03 | kurzhaarrocker | Probably a bug. |
| 10:12:25 | BC|code | hmmm, not sure i wanna bugger around in that particular file - lol |
| 10:12:41 | BC|code | wondered if I had missed some weird POSIX option |
| 10:13:02 | Strath | sure it's not a feature? |
| 10:13:10 | BC|code | serious? |
| 10:13:38 | Strath | what does "creat" do? |
| 10:13:44 | BC|code | problem is that I can only ever save my options ONCE ...then file exists and it's read only !!! |
| 10:13:48 | BC|code | creates a file |
| 10:13:52 | Strath | heh |
| 10:14:07 | Strath | maybe it's a safty feature |
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| 10:14:34 | BC|code | safty ...that's a new one on me |
| 10:14:37 | Strath | just call what you need to to remove the attribute when you need to make changes |
| 10:14:46 | BC|code | which is..... |
| 10:14:50 | BC|code | lol |
| 10:14:58 | Strath | *shrugs* |
| 10:15:13 | Strath | i don't know rockbox specifics |
| 10:15:21 | BC|code | posix? |
| 10:15:33 | Strath | uh... |
| 10:15:37 | Strath | one sec |
| 10:16:03 | BC|code | close, creat, filesize, flush_cache, fsync, ftruncate, lseek, open, read, readwrite, remove, rename, write |
| 10:19:32 | BC|code | i got a horrible feeling it might be an uninitialise variable :( |
| 10:19:38 | BC|code | *d |
| 10:19:42 | Strath | heh |
| 10:20:58 | Strath | what do you know about compression algorithms? |
| 10:21:23 | BC|code | modest amount - principles rather than mechanics |
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| 10:22:08 | BC|code | lthough I did have to step a gunzip once so I know that inside out |
| 10:22:15 | Strath | ok, probaly wont be able to help then, i'm having problems with my implementaion |
| 10:22:30 | Strath | that may help... |
| 10:23:10 | Strath | i set it up with a 4096 byte window (12 bit offset, 4 bit length, grouped 8 flags) |
| 10:23:21 | Strath | does that sound about right? |
| 10:23:59 | BC|code | miseed the "flags" reference, but yes, that sounds fair for a typical huffman compressor |
| 10:24:16 | Strath | what is huffman? |
| 10:24:20 | BC|code | gzip |
| 10:24:27 | BC|code | well most of them really |
| 10:24:27 | Strath | oh |
| 10:24:42 | BC|code | eg bzip is bwt+gzip |
| 10:24:56 | BC|code | essentially |
| 10:25:08 | Strath | hrm... |
| 10:25:20 | Strath | so i'm missing something i guess |
| 10:25:34 | Strath | may need to dive back into the documentaion |
| 10:25:56 | BC|code | but there a dozens of compression algorithms ...so depending on which you are coding ...those numbers could be wwwwwwaaaaaayyyyyy off ...but they sound cool for a basic huffman table |
| 10:26:45 | Strath | trouble is, i'm not sure of the exact algorithm that was used |
| 10:26:57 | kurzhaarrocker | c0utta: are you still busy with that configurable F2 /F3? |
| 10:28:05 | Strath | goin back to the docs, pm me if ya think of somethin |
| 10:32:40 | BC|code | kurz ...i dont recall if i have shown you my audio stuff recently, or come to that, if it is something of interest to you? |
| 10:33:10 | dwihno | \o/ |
| 10:33:19 | dwihno | Another monday! \o/ |
| 10:33:45 | BC|code | its raining here |
| 10:34:26 | BC|code | any further with you new gui? |
| 10:34:58 | kurzhaarrocker | BC|code I've tested your plugin. Works fine. Have you seen that icon surface by dwihno? |
| 10:35:22 | BC|code | yes dwihno's gui is V cool |
| 10:35:56 | dwihno | BC|code: I'll work on the clean patch today, making it up to date. |
| 10:35:58 | BC|code | I have added basic MDB, decimal scales, and you can now re-org the menu items |
| 10:35:59 | dwihno | Time to leave. bye. |
| 10:36:04 | BC|code | byeee |
| 10:36:11 | kurzhaarrocker | see you |
| 10:36:37 | BC|code | oh, and the font is bigger |
| 10:37:01 | kurzhaarrocker | BC|code You have an option, something about @ 1kHz, or so. Is that the loudness? |
| 10:37:07 | BC|code | wanna make it font-support ...but before I can do that, I need to find a way to convert my font over so that I can still use it! |
| 10:37:31 | BC|code | ahh yes ...have also written full docs as well :) |
| 10:37:46 | BC|code | yes @?KHz is the centre frequency for the loudness control |
| 10:38:48 | BC|code | wish i could find more info on what mdb is |
| 10:39:22 | BC|code | the response graph in the manual is somewhat lacking |
| 10:55:19 | BC|code | l8rz guys |
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| 14:08:10 | Atrack | Hi |
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| 14:14:37 | midhaarrocker | Hi |
| 14:15:10 | midhaarrocker | BC|code I just critisized your red zone patch :) |
| 14:15:21 | BC|code | read zone? |
| 14:15:26 | midhaarrocker | for peak meter |
| 14:15:48 | BC|code | no peak meter from me?? |
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| 14:16:23 | midhaarrocker | Sorry, got mixed up! |
| 14:16:27 | * | midhaarrocker is ashamed |
| 14:16:28 | Bluechip | s'okay |
| 14:16:30 | Bluechip | lol |
| 14:16:46 | midhaarrocker | It's a patch by midknight |
| 14:16:53 | Bluechip | my audio patch is all settings |
| 14:16:56 | Bluechip | LOL |
| 14:17:12 | Bluechip | me and mk - not sure who should be more complimented/insulted |
| 14:18:14 | midhaarrocker | Both complimented of course. You do things for rockbox. |
| 14:18:28 | Bluechip | :D |
| 14:18:59 | Bluechip | playing with the new customisable stereo seperation, I found a new handy combo :) |
| 14:19:03 | Bluechip | MONO-LOUD |
| 14:19:16 | Bluechip | for real quiet speech recordings |
| 14:19:34 | midhaarrocker | Let me guess: adds left + right? |
| 14:19:45 | Bluechip | yep! |
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| 15:35:13 | Dogger | hey bluechip |
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| 16:08:59 | Dogger | anyone know any info on torisan display driver chips etc |
| 16:09:04 | Dogger | their webpage sucks |
| 16:09:16 | * | midhaarrocker knows nothing |
| 16:09:57 | Atrack | hi |
| 16:10:30 | midhaarrocker | hi |
| 16:10:47 | Dogger | http://www.torisan.co.jp/torisan/pdfdate/English/E_TM038QV-67A02A.pdf |
| 16:10:49 | Dogger | check this |
| 16:10:57 | Dogger | I think its the av300 touchscreen display |
| 16:11:04 | Dogger | (I think the av300 has a touchscreen) |
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| 17:38:04 | DjCartOOn | hello =) |
| 17:38:13 | DjCartOOn | anybody here? |
| 17:38:50 | diddystar5 | me |
| 17:39:13 | DjCartOOn | hi diddy =) |
| 17:39:26 | DjCartOOn | may I ask you for a little help with rockbox? |
| 17:39:26 | diddystar5 | hi DjCartOOn |
| 17:40:18 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK DjCartOOn |
| 17:40:18 | DjCartOOn | is desperate =( |
| 17:40:40 | DjCartOOn | my archos fm recorder keeps doing funny things |
| 17:40:50 | diddystar5 | sure |
| 17:42:10 | diddystar5 | whats your problem? |
| 17:42:58 | diddystar5 | please dont use black fonts, i cant see them in xchat |
| 17:43:09 | diddystar5 | what does your fm keep doing? |
| 17:43:18 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 17:43:18 | DjCartOOn | better? |
| 17:43:28 | diddystar5 | yes |
| 17:43:34 | DjCartOOn | okie |
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| 17:43:56 | DjCartOOn | well, first of all the usb keeps going funny |
| 17:44:25 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 17:44:25 | DjCartOOn | only 1 time out of 6 it sees my recorder |
| 17:44:29 | diddystar5 | likw what? you get 2 icons in the taskbar? |
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| 17:44:46 | DjCartOOn | no none |
| 17:44:56 | diddystar5 | does wiggleing help? |
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| 17:45:36 | DjCartOOn | what's that? |
| 17:45:55 | diddystar5 | err, moving the cable around |
| 17:46:20 | *** | Alert Mode level 6 |
| 17:46:20 | DjCartOOn | let's see |
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| 17:47:08 | *** | Alert Mode level 7 |
| 17:47:08 | DjCartOOn | nope |
| 17:47:26 | diddystar5 | are you on windows xp? |
| 17:48:56 | *** | Alert Mode level 8 |
| 17:48:56 | DjCartOOn | no win 98 se |
| 17:49:41 | diddystar5 | ok, i really have no idea |
| 17:50:03 | diddystar5 | thatsnot firmware related, most likely |
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| 17:50:19 | DjCartOOn | he he he.... ok thanks anyway =) Do yhou have an idea who could help me? |
| 17:50:20 | diddystar5 | do you get the USB icon on the screen when you hook up USB? |
| 17:50:29 | DjCartOOn | yes I do |
| 17:50:32 | diddystar5 | (on the fm rec) |
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| 17:50:41 | DjCartOOn | yes I do |
| 17:51:13 | diddystar5 | ok, then the prblemis most likely on the computers side, because the icon comes up when the archos receives power from the usb |
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| 17:52:00 | DjCartOOn | what could I do then? |
| 17:52:48 | diddystar5 | i don't know |
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| 17:53:14 | DjCartOOn | do you think i need to subscribe to the ML? |
| 17:53:19 | diddystar5 | is you USB built in to your computer, or do you have a seberate card? |
| 17:54:21 | *** | Alert Mode level 13 |
| 17:54:21 | DjCartOOn | I am using one card I seldom used before.. do you think that may be the problem? |
| 17:55:22 | diddystar5 | i would check, make sure its in good, and maybe try built in USB ports, or another computer |
| 17:55:42 | *** | Alert Mode level 14 |
| 17:55:42 | DjCartOOn | thanks a lot diddy |
| 17:56:24 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 17:56:33 | diddystar5 | i wish i could tell you a solution :) |
| 17:57:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 15 |
| 17:57:17 | DjCartOOn | well i formatted the Archos and reinstalled everything already, as another user here told me |
| 17:57:26 | *** | Alert Mode level 16 |
| 17:57:26 | DjCartOOn | but it still does fun things |
| 17:58:06 | diddystar5 | is USB the only problem? |
| 17:59:27 | *** | Alert Mode level 17 |
| 17:59:27 | DjCartOOn | well i think all my problems are usb related |
| 17:59:38 | *** | Alert Mode level 18 |
| 17:59:38 | DjCartOOn | i mean consequences of bad usb connection |
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| 18:00:48 | diddystar5 | What are those consequences? |
| 18:00:51 | DjCartOOn | hi Ear |
| 18:01:01 | earHurts | hiya |
| 18:01:15 | diddystar5 | yo earHertz |
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| 18:01:20 | DjCartOOn | mp3's i put in appear as "root" files with no 1d3 tag and either don't play at all or play totally different music |
| 18:02:15 | earHurts | mp3s you put where? |
| 18:02:42 | diddystar5 | something is not right :(, but i doubt that is USB related |
| 18:03:28 | earHurts | what happens if you play them on your pc, from the archos drive, via usb? |
| 18:03:30 | DjCartOOn | i thought so... but what could it be? a virus maybe? |
| 18:03:53 | diddystar5 | no |
| 18:04:01 | earHurts | more likely a cross-linked disk |
| 18:04:06 | earHurts | run chkdsk |
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| 18:04:08 | DjCartOOn | they sound fine. Usually before they are completely copied I geta bluescreen message tellimg me the drive is not accessible |
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| 18:04:31 | earHurts | definitely run chkdsk |
| 18:05:04 | earHurts | why is your text red, DjCartoon? |
| 18:05:56 | diddystar5 | he wants it to be |
| 18:07:14 | earHurts | |
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| 18:08:52 | DjCartOOn | just because if I write red diddy can't read it |
| 18:09:35 | *** | Alert Mode level 22 |
| 18:09:35 | DjCartOOn | diddy I'm off to chkdsk... be back later =) |
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| 18:11:41 | diddystar5 | DjcartOOn: good |
| 18:11:46 | diddystar5 | to late |
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| 18:32:50 | Jet8810 | I got an Ipod yesterday...:-P |
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| 18:36:24 | Dogger | ipods are cool |
| 18:36:33 | Jet8810 | yeaa, its aweesomem |
| 18:36:55 | Jet8810 | but all my id3 tags have issues so it is a liittle bit kludgy from that standpoint |
| 18:37:03 | Dogger | ah yeah |
| 18:37:11 | Jet8810 | and with 4000 songs, pain to ffix |
| 18:37:12 | Dogger | heard there were problems with tags and itunes |
| 18:37:23 | Jet8810 | hmm, I havent found any |
| 18:37:26 | Jet8810 | well see |
| 18:37:42 | Jet8810 | but my tags arre already all "Scott" "Scot" "Sccot" type stuff |
| 18:37:44 | Jet8810 | pretty annoying |
| 18:37:53 | Dogger | ah lol |
| 18:37:56 | Dogger | not good |
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| 18:38:20 | Jet8810 | heeh nope |
| 18:38:56 | Jet8810 | I guess ill just get an id3 tag editor...and as I find flaws in the pod, edit them on compo |
| 18:39:30 | Jet8810 | i just need to ffind a program that lets me search for songs with name x in the actuala name, theen edit t he id3 tags |
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| 18:47:52 | Guest | hi =) |
| 18:48:11 | Guest | whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo's here? |
| 18:48:16 | Dogger | not me |
| 18:48:44 | Guest | lol =) |
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| 18:49:59 | Guest | anybody can answer a question? |
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| 18:52:21 | Guest | hi diddy!!! |
| 18:52:37 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Guest |
| 18:52:37 | Guest | problem solved diddy!!!! |
| 18:53:00 | Guest | you gave a good idea =) |
| 18:53:07 | diddystar5 | :) |
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| 18:53:17 | diddystar5 | USB card was loose? |
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| 18:53:28 | Guest | <−−- was Djcartoon who actually forgot to sign in witht he right name |
| 18:53:49 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 18:53:49 | Guest | usb port was defective.... changed it and works like a dream |
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| 18:55:56 | diddystar5 | good |
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| 18:56:41 | Guest | diddy maybe you can help me with another thing.... do you have a recorder? |
| 18:57:49 | diddystar5 | yes |
| 18:57:59 | Dogger | hey diddystar5 |
| 18:59:15 | Guest | ho dogger |
| 18:59:28 | diddystar5 | Dogger: any new stuff? |
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| 18:59:33 | Guest | can you record without having all that hard disk background noise? |
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| 19:00:23 | diddystar5 | Guest: sorry, not with the internel mic, but you can get a externle mic and you want have those sounds. |
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| 19:01:00 | Guest | I c... well thaks =) |
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| 19:02:44 | Guest | Djcartoon... yikes... and awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy *gone* |
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| 20:45:18 | Strath | ello |
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| 20:54:34 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 20:54:37 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 20:54:59 | quelsaruk | arg!! zagor's here! |
| 20:55:00 | quelsaruk | :P |
| 20:57:22 | Zagor | :) |
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| 21:07:48 | arspy87 | hey |
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| 21:08:18 | elinenbe | back from Holiday −− hello everyone! |
| 21:11:23 | quelsaruk | hi elinenbe |
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| 21:16:56 | elinenbe | hello |
| 21:17:08 | Strath | hiya |
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| 21:19:08 | quelsaruk | hi [IDC]Dragon |
| 21:19:20 | [IDC]Dragon | hi quel! |
| 21:20:17 | Dogger | hi all |
| 21:21:11 | uski | hi [IDC]Dragon |
| 21:21:15 | uski | hi * |
| 21:21:31 | [IDC]Dragon | hey, almost everybody here |
| 21:21:38 | uski | yea |
| 21:21:44 | uski | we're a great family ! |
| 21:21:54 | Dogger | everyone in the world is here right? |
| 21:23:50 | [IDC]Dragon | missing Linus, Daniel |
| 21:25:01 | Dogger | hear that I got my code running on av300 now? |
| 21:25:14 | Dogger | and the emulator runs quite a lot of the firmware now :) |
| 21:25:45 | quelsaruk | yups |
| 21:26:16 | quelsaruk | also langhaarrocker... btw, has anyone an idea why he changed his nick to kudzhaarrocker or something like that? |
| 21:27:03 | [IDC]Dragon | to adjust for current hairstyle |
| 21:41:48 | elinenbe | Dogger: what are you talking about? |
| 21:42:25 | Dogger | I made my first real program for my av300 |
| 21:42:41 | Dogger | and can run it without altering the firmware now :) |
| 21:42:55 | Dogger | it reads status of the buttons, and sends it via serial to my laptop |
| 21:42:56 | elinenbe | Dogger: are you the person who will not release any of the specs? |
| 21:43:27 | Dogger | *will* not? |
| 21:43:35 | Dogger | I am not releasing anything yet no |
| 21:43:45 | elinenbe | Dogger: will you ever? |
| 21:43:46 | Dogger | because archos' lawyer is still threatening me |
| 21:43:51 | Dogger | of course I will |
| 21:44:02 | elinenbe | Dogger: where are you located? |
| 21:44:02 | Dogger | once I have coded a game, I will release the binary for a start |
| 21:44:09 | Dogger | uk at the moment |
| 21:44:18 | elinenbe | Dogger: steal my sokoban code from rockbox. |
| 21:44:23 | elinenbe | that should be easy enough. |
| 21:44:33 | Dogger | huh? |
| 21:44:41 | Dogger | ah is that a game? |
| 21:44:52 | Dogger | I'm coding everything in assembly at the moment tho |
| 21:45:00 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 12 minutes at the last flood |
| 21:45:00 | * | Dogger hates c with a passion :) |
| 21:46:49 | quelsaruk | [IDC]Dragon what does kudz mean now? before it was long haired rocker (my german is impressive btw) ;) |
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| 21:47:13 | [IDC]Dragon | kurz = short |
| 21:47:32 | quelsaruk | interesting |
| 21:47:32 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 21:47:46 | [IDC]Dragon | now he changed again, to mid |
| 21:49:02 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: I have a question about your latest commit... can you push a sound during playback? |
| 21:49:15 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: like everytime I hit a button I hear a beep? |
| 21:49:18 | [IDC]Dragon | that was quick! |
| 21:49:36 | elinenbe | I'm the quickest! |
| 21:49:39 | [IDC]Dragon | Currently, you can't "inject", no |
| 21:49:52 | [IDC]Dragon | only while not playing |
| 21:50:06 | [IDC]Dragon | but this is on the list, too |
| 21:50:25 | Dogger | how complex is the MAS? |
| 21:50:41 | Dogger | I need to emulate it at some point |
| 21:50:48 | [IDC]Dragon | Dunno, haven't programmed it ;) |
| 21:50:59 | Dogger | ok :) |
| 21:51:13 | [IDC]Dragon | To use it is not too difficult |
| 21:51:25 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought the AV has no MAS? |
| 21:51:36 | Dogger | it has a MAS |
| 21:51:40 | Dogger | via I2C bus |
| 21:51:56 | [IDC]Dragon | and the DSP/ARM chip? |
| 21:52:13 | Dogger | that could prolly do the mp3 coding/decoding yeah |
| 21:52:21 | Dogger | but they used a separate MAS chip |
| 21:52:39 | [IDC]Dragon | sounds like awkward system design |
| 21:52:49 | Dogger | maybe, |
| 21:52:56 | Dogger | perhaps dsp cant encode to mp3 |
| 21:53:06 | Dogger | or maybe they just had code lying around for the mas |
| 21:53:21 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, most mp3 players have an ARM7 |
| 21:55:13 | Dogger | av300 is arm7 core |
| 21:55:31 | [IDC]Dragon | I know, that's why I'm wondering |
| 21:55:38 | Dogger | o ok :) |
| 21:56:02 | [IDC]Dragon | We found out together, remember? |
| 21:56:24 | Dogger | ah yeah.... so long ago :) |
| 21:56:33 | [IDC]Dragon | When you first took it apart and were researching about the chip |
| 21:56:34 | Dogger | I have been slow to get the av300 running code :( |
| 21:56:50 | Dogger | check this: http://www.axod.net/v2.avi |
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| 21:58:03 | [IDC]Dragon | nice colourbars! |
| 21:58:14 | Dogger | yeah but you see when I press a button |
| 21:58:18 | Dogger | it sends it to the laptop |
| 21:58:21 | Dogger | and it prints it out |
| 21:58:27 | Dogger | I wrote that |
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| 21:58:49 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: I thought that inject sounds was impossible because fo the buffer and all, although I thought this was already attempted (see patch tracker) and no one was successful... |
| 21:59:24 | [IDC]Dragon | I dunno about the patch tracker attempt |
| 21:59:59 | [IDC]Dragon | but it shure is possible: stop the DMA on a frame boundary, set it to the new stuff, restore state |
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| 22:01:18 | uski | ? |
| 22:01:23 | uski | inject sound where ? |
| 22:01:26 | uski | from what ? |
| 22:01:29 | uski | which format ? |
| 22:01:39 | [IDC]Dragon | while playing, from memory |
| 22:01:42 | uski | k |
| 22:01:52 | [IDC]Dragon | mp3 format (bitswapped) |
| 22:01:57 | uski | then it must be psosible |
| 22:02:10 | uski | the main problem i see is that care must be taken to change the MAS registers |
| 22:02:14 | uski | (bitrate, ...) |
| 22:02:34 | [IDC]Dragon | no, you only need to manage the dataflow |
| 22:02:49 | Zagor | the mas handles the bitrate by itself |
| 22:02:50 | uski | you mean the MAS doesn't know the bitrate ? |
| 22:02:56 | [IDC]Dragon | the MAS does everthing else by itself automagically |
| 22:02:56 | uski | hmmmm ok |
| 22:03:12 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: I think this should be the next effort. I would love to hear a click (aka ipod) during button presses and such. that would be AWESOME! |
| 22:03:14 | Zagor | otherwise vbr would be very painful :) |
| 22:03:28 | uski | Zagor: lolol right |
| 22:03:36 | elinenbe | Dogger: nice video... that is the way rockbox started ;D |
| 22:03:40 | [IDC]Dragon | can we play free format mp3? |
| 22:03:53 | uski | [IDC]Dragon: try :P ,) |
| 22:04:10 | Dogger | elinenbe: yep :) and now I can run code without touching the firmware, I should have a game done by next week ;) |
| 22:04:14 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:04:14 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: free format? |
| 22:04:15 | uski | (if the MAS is compliant with the MP3 specs then yes you can, up to 320kbps) |
| 22:04:24 | uski | (but im' not sure it is ;)) |
| 22:04:28 | uski | (compliant) |
| 22:04:37 | [IDC]Dragon | free format has variable sized frames |
| 22:05:09 | uski | `man lame`: |
| 22:05:11 | uski | However, even if an mp3 decoder is required to support free |
| 22:05:11 | uski | bitrates at least up to 320 kbps, many players are unable to |
| 22:05:11 | uski | deal with it. |
| 22:05:22 | uski | hmmm if you want i can try tomorrow |
| 22:05:27 | [IDC]Dragon | vs. variable bitrate just switches rate on a frame by frame basis |
| 22:05:28 | uski | i can encode a small free format mp3 |
| 22:05:35 | uski | then i send it to my recorder |
| 22:06:44 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: i don't understand. vbr uses different frame lenghts. |
| 22:07:13 | [IDC]Dragon | Yes, but the bitrate defines the frame length |
| 22:07:14 | elinenbe | Dogger: can you load your own custom firmware? |
| 22:07:26 | Dogger | elinenbe: when I've written it yes |
| 22:07:30 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: ah, yes. |
| 22:07:54 | elinenbe | Zagor: is the bookmarking patch going in anytime soon? ;D |
| 22:08:35 | diddystar5 | elinenbe: work needs to be done on it |
| 22:08:41 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: you mean use a varying number of samples per frame? why does one want to do that? |
| 22:09:04 | quelsaruk | btw, i got today my new recorder 20, now, my poor old recorder 6 can rest a bit... before i get bored and make some mods to it :D |
| 22:09:15 | Zagor | elinenbe: as soon as the stack issue is solved |
| 22:09:39 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe because it's easier to encode? |
| 22:10:59 | Zagor | well to me that doesn't sound like a good enough reason to break the data format :) |
| 22:11:23 | [IDC]Dragon | I haven't invented it... |
| 22:11:44 | [IDC]Dragon | Oops, my commit broke quite some builds :( |
| 22:11:46 | Zagor | what programs use/produce it? |
| 22:12:02 | Zagor | hehe. fix fix ;) |
| 22:12:02 | | Join Atrack [0] (jirc@ACBE02C6.ipt.aol.com) |
| 22:12:08 | elinenbe | Zagor: I thought the latest version of the patch corrected the stack behavior |
| 22:12:16 | Atrack | Hi |
| 22:12:19 | diddystar5 | OOOH NO ITS TRACK |
| 22:12:26 | [IDC]Dragon | Looking into it... |
| 22:12:30 | diddystar5 | Zagor: hack him! |
| 22:12:35 | Zagor | elinenbe: ok. i'm still lagging behind a bit. |
| 22:12:49 | | Join Guest57 [0] (jirc@81.185.194.36) |
| 22:12:58 | Guest57 | hi all |
| 22:13:23 | Atrack | hi Guest57 |
| 22:13:45 | Guest57 | is there some plan to support the link in our fat32 filesystem ? if it interrest some coder, I founded some code, and doc about the format of the lnk file format |
| 22:14:07 | Guest57 | hi Atrack |
| 22:14:50 | Zagor | Guest57: you mean windows shortcuts? |
| 22:15:12 | Guest57 | another question: why is there no more the firmware image available on the daily build download ? |
| 22:15:25 | Zagor | Guest57: they are inside the .zip files |
| 22:18:12 | Atrack | hi Zagor |
| 22:19:00 | | Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Montreal-ppp32446.qc.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:19:24 | Zagor | hi |
| 22:19:49 | Zagor | Guest57: shortcuts are not part of the file system. they are a bizarre microsoft windows invention. |
| 22:20:24 | Atrack | basically they are just icons that point to the location of a program etc. |
| 22:22:08 | Atrack | so whats in the pipeline for Rockbox in 2004 Zagor? |
| 22:23:40 | Zagor | having fun, writing code |
| 22:24:02 | Dogger | everyone migrates over to writing for avos! :) |
| 22:24:06 | Zagor | we don't make detailed plans. it all depends on what code gets written. |
| 22:24:10 | Dogger | just kidding |
| 22:24:30 | Zagor | Dogger: you're not exactly encouraging it by writing everything in assembler... :) |
| 22:24:44 | Dogger | assembler takes skill |
| 22:24:47 | Dogger | so you get better coders |
| 22:24:48 | quelsaruk | Zagor, those t-shirts saw the light or are still "in pause"?? |
| 22:25:02 | Dogger | anyway I will prolly use c later when I get further |
| 22:25:06 | diddystar5 | i want a rockbox shirt! |
| 22:25:06 | Atrack | thank god for seperate memory card readers,,,,,,, |
| 22:25:32 | Zagor | we never got the image from adiamas... dunno if anyone is actually still interested. |
| 22:25:50 | quelsaruk | Zagor, at least me :P |
| 22:26:26 | | Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) |
| 22:26:30 | Dogger | Zagor: anyway my emulators written in java :) |
| 22:26:39 | Atrack | Happy New Year to you Zagor |
| 22:26:49 | Zagor | thanks |
| 22:27:18 | quelsaruk | here have to go |
| 22:27:23 | quelsaruk | cu another day |
| 22:27:23 | | Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se) |
| 22:27:34 | diddystar5 | hey Bagder |
| 22:27:38 | Bagder | evening |
| 22:27:45 | [IDC]Dragon | Here he is |
| 22:27:51 | quelsaruk | hi Bagder :P |
| 22:27:57 | quelsaruk | bbl! |
| 22:27:59 | quelsaruk | i hope |
| 22:28:00 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 22:28:09 | Bagder | hi goatmaster! |
| 22:28:12 | Atrack | hi Bagder |
| 22:28:19 | Atrack | Happy New Year to you Bagder |
| 22:28:36 | | Quit quelsaruk ("i have new box! now, i don't need goats (yet)") |
| 22:30:53 | elinenbe | Zagor: I do have a question. Why is it that when I build my rockbox, I get a rockbo.ucl file with the word " fake" in it? |
| 22:31:09 | elinenbe | sorry rockbo.ucl = rockbox.ucl |
| 22:31:22 | elinenbe | I would love to have it automatically build the rockbox.ucl file for real. |
| 22:31:32 | Bagder | elinenbe: you lack the uclpack command |
| 22:33:36 | elinenbe | Bagder: where do I instert that... into the make file? |
| 22:33:44 | | Quit cjnr11 () |
| 22:33:53 | Bagder | no, just make sure it exists in your path |
| 22:34:00 | elinenbe | shouldn't that be automatic because when I run configure I tell it what type of jukebox I am using. |
| 22:34:35 | Bagder | when you run make it checks for the command |
| 22:35:04 | Bagder | if it isn't found, it makes that 'fake' thing |
| 22:35:18 | elinenbe | what is the uclpack command? |
| 22:35:37 | elinenbe | do I do that like "export UCLPACK=blah blah" |
| 22:36:01 | Bagder | no, just make sure the command is in your path |
| 22:36:06 | Zagor | it's a tool, like gcc |
| 22:37:09 | Bagder | http://www.oberhumer.com/opensource/ucl/ |
| 22:37:49 | Atrack | is sound for the vid files possible? |
| 22:38:27 | elinenbe | Bagder: thanks. |
| 22:38:31 | [IDC]Dragon | working on it... |
| 22:38:44 | Atrack | really? |
| 22:39:12 | [IDC]Dragon | have I ever lied her? |
| 22:39:28 | Atrack | just didnt' think it was posisble |
| 22:39:36 | uski | can someone remember me how to set the hold mode (keylock) ? with the lastest just loaded bleeding edge (yea i like to be a beta tester ;)) |
| 22:40:03 | Atrack | uski i think lock is ON and down |
| 22:40:27 | | Quit Guest57 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:40:32 | elinenbe | can I take the uclpack from the flash archive on [IDC]Dragon's page? |
| 22:40:57 | [IDC]Dragon | for Win32 or Cygwin, yes. |
| 22:41:17 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: what is your page again? <grin> |
| 22:41:30 | uski | Atrack: nah, it changes the pitch |
| 22:41:42 | Atrack | sorry uski |
| 22:41:45 | Atrack | I think its F1 and down |
| 22:41:45 | [IDC]Dragon | see the rockbox flash page |
| 22:41:58 | uski | ok it is F1 down :) |
| 22:42:00 | uski | yea |
| 22:42:03 | uski | ty ;) |
| 22:42:08 | uski | gtg (sleeep) |
| 22:42:11 | uski | see you |
| 22:42:18 | uski | [IDC]Dragon: want me to test a free format mp3 ? |
| 22:42:22 | uski | i can do it now |
| 22:42:34 | uski | with a weird bitrate, say 173kbps |
| 22:42:39 | Zagor | uski: i'm pretty sure it doesn't work. "free format" is not mp3. |
| 22:42:42 | Atrack | your welcome uski |
| 22:42:54 | | Quit oxygen77 ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/7]") |
| 22:42:55 | Atrack | Zagor there is a freeware MP3 ripper |
| 22:43:10 | uski | Zagor: hmm, i want to try, just to "hear it" |
| 22:43:10 | [IDC]Dragon | free format doesn't mean a wild bitrate |
| 22:43:35 | Zagor | Atrack: we're not talking about that "free". we mean mp3 data with the wrong number of samples per frame. |
| 22:43:45 | Atrack | oh right |
| 22:43:45 | Zagor | uski: feel free to try |
| 22:43:52 | Atrack | perhaps 173kbs is a vbr file |
| 22:44:05 | Atrack | some of my vbr files show around that bitrate |
| 22:44:17 | Zagor | uski: which program makes "free format" mp3 data? |
| 22:44:19 | [IDC]Dragon | not wrong # of samples, just a free number of bits |
| 22:44:32 | uski | Encoding as 44.1 kHz 173 kbps j-stereo MPEG-1 Layer III (8.2x) qval=2 |
| 22:44:40 | uski | moohaha, in some secs i will upload it to my archos |
| 22:44:49 | Zagor | uski: that's not free format. it's just vbr. |
| 22:45:00 | uski | lame −−freeformat -b 173 ED.mp3 |
| 22:45:00 | uski | LAME version 3.93 (http://www.mp3dev.org/) |
| 22:45:00 | uski | Using polyphase lowpass filter, transition band: 18671 Hz - 19205 Hz |
| 22:45:00 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK uski |
| 22:45:00 | uski | Warning: many decoders cannot handle free format bitstreams |
| 22:45:00 | uski | Encoding ED.mp3 to ED.mp3.mp3 |
| 22:45:01 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 22:45:01 | uski | Encoding as 44.1 kHz 173 kbps j-stereo MPEG-1 Layer III (8.2x) qval=2 |
| 22:45:08 | Atrack | ?? |
| 22:45:19 | uski | Atrack: freeformat is a special mp3 format. |
| 22:45:25 | uski | (short explanation) |
| 22:45:27 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: ok, then i still don't understand. you mean a number of bits that doesn't match the frame header? that would be garbage!? |
| 22:45:28 | Atrack | ok |
| 22:45:46 | Zagor | i'll man lame then |
| 22:46:05 | [IDC]Dragon | from what I learned, the size of the frame is "free" |
| 22:46:15 | uski | LOL |
| 22:46:17 | uski | it works |
| 22:46:22 | uski | BUT rockbox displays a wrong bitrate |
| 22:46:24 | uski | bugfix alert ;) |
| 22:46:34 | uski | rockbox says "24kbps" |
| 22:46:41 | [IDC]Dragon | it still results to a certain # of samples |
| 22:46:47 | uski | my hear says that the quality is better ;) |
| 22:47:35 | uski | hmm i found another bug: my screen is hung displaying "mute is off" and the keys doesn't work anymore |
| 22:47:41 | Atrack | even 5% on vbr sounds pretty good |
| 22:47:47 | Atrack | done on musicmatch |
| 22:47:56 | diddystar5 | musicmatch.... |
| 22:48:02 | uski | also i think that the buffer isn't handled correctly, probably because of the wrong bitrate calculation, wait some minutes for confirmation |
| 22:48:02 | diddystar5 | who knows what 5% menas |
| 22:48:05 | diddystar5 | *means |
| 22:48:31 | Zagor | ah, ok "free format" is actually defined in our mpeg header docs: |
| 22:48:38 | Atrack | 5% is very low quality |
| 22:48:48 | Atrack | file sizes around 2-3mb |
| 22:48:51 | uski | Atrack: 5% doesn't mean anything :\ |
| 22:48:54 | Zagor | ""free" means free format. If the correct fixed bitrate (such files cannot use variable bitrate) is different than those presented in upper table it must be determined by the application. This may be implemented only for internal purposes since third party applications have no means to find out correct bitrate. Howewer, this is not impossible to do but demands lot's of efforts. "bad" means that this is not an allowed value" |
| 22:49:07 | uski | hmmm ok, there is also a bug with the buffer. (buffer underrun) |
| 22:49:24 | Bagder | uski: that's due to the missed bitrate |
| 22:49:27 | Zagor | uski: not a bug. see above: "no means to find out correct bitrate" |
| 22:49:41 | Zagor | well, ok it's a bug but it's very hard to "fix" |
| 22:49:50 | uski | right; but a good thing would be to show "??" as the bitrate and also fix this buffer underrun |
| 22:50:02 | Zagor | since you've explicitly chosen to leave out that information... |
| 22:50:05 | uski | i don't think it is hard to fix the buffer underrun |
| 22:50:13 | uski | yea i understood |
| 22:50:13 | Bagder | the only sensible thing, you be to add a vbr header on such an mp3 |
| 22:50:20 | Bagder | would be |
| 22:50:22 | uski | grrr my screen and my keys are locked |
| 22:50:32 | Atrack | how can a bitrate be missed? |
| 22:50:41 | Zagor | Bagder: or we could treat free format data as 320kbps and buffer accordingly |
| 22:50:48 | Bagder | Zagor: true |
| 22:50:55 | Bagder | it would prevent the underrun |
| 22:50:56 | uski | Freeformat can be up to 640kbps |
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| 22:51:04 | Atrack | hi diddy |
| 22:51:08 | | Quit diddystar5 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 22:51:09 | uski | (ok, it would be stupid to encode at a that high bitrate) |
| 22:51:20 | Atrack | yea uski |
| 22:51:24 | Atrack | very big file sizes |
| 22:51:26 | uski | ooo i found a bug and a way to reproduce it |
| 22:51:43 | uski | it would be better to use a lossless compression |
| 22:51:59 | uski | my bug, press F1/Play, and then relax the buttons, then press again immediatly F1/Play |
| 22:52:07 | Atrack | yea but the archos cant' read lossless compression |
| 22:52:10 | uski | => impossible to control the archos anymore, you have to shut it down and start it again |
| 22:52:32 | uski | Atrack: right but... i don't think you can hear the difference between a 320kbps and a 640kbps file |
| 22:52:38 | uski | even a 192kbps perhaps.. |
| 22:53:00 | Atrack | who said mp3 can do 640kbs? |
| 22:53:08 | Atrack | it can only go up to 320kbs |
| 22:53:19 | uski | Zagor, Badger: can't you see how much bytes there are in the buffer, and calculate the number of chunks that goes to the decoder each second ? |
| 22:53:31 | uski | this way you could calculate when to buffer some data from the hard drive, no ? |
| 22:53:43 | Zagor | uski: it's not safe, since the speed can be variable |
| 22:53:59 | uski | yesd but the MAS will ask data faster then |
| 22:54:11 | uski | so simply recalculate on the fly, it is not a cpu consuming operation |
| 22:54:31 | Zagor | exactly. and that faster request happens at the end of the buffer, it will run out before we have a chance to refill it |
| 22:54:35 | Zagor | if |
| 22:54:57 | uski | ...i suppose you have some reserve in the buffer |
| 22:55:02 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 22:55:33 | Zagor | free format is a silly thing anyway. 320kbit is the best way to handle it. |
| 22:55:37 | uski | hmm |
| 22:55:40 | uski | i think you're right |
| 22:55:47 | uski | also, nobody will use freeformat mp3 |
| 22:55:54 | [IDC]Dragon | Sorry to have raised this |
| 22:56:00 | uski | [IDC]Dragon: ? ;) |
| 22:56:03 | uski | you were right |
| 22:56:04 | | Nick diddystar5_ is now known as diddystar5 (Lee@ACC5BFCD.ipt.aol.com) |
| 22:56:05 | uski | we found a bug |
| 22:56:08 | Atrack | Zagor, Bagder since when mp3 could do 640kbs? |
| 22:56:08 | uski | and it will be fixed |
| 22:56:17 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: no worries. i think we should handle it, just not add a lot of extra code to do it. |
| 22:56:20 | Bagder | Atrack: read the specs |
| 22:56:53 | uski | also, look at "my" "mute screen" bug, when you have some time ;) |
| 22:56:56 | uski | see you all ! |
| 22:57:02 | [IDC]Dragon | I was thinking about a way to model data consumption of an mp3 stream |
| 22:57:04 | Bagder | uski: file it in the bug tracker |
| 22:57:06 | diddystar5 | bye uski |
| 22:57:11 | uski | (i can't say "good evening" because we are all in different timezones) |
| 22:57:13 | [IDC]Dragon | fixed and vbr are no problem, |
| 22:57:13 | uski | ++ |
| 22:57:21 | [IDC]Dragon | but this free format is. |
| 22:57:31 | Atrack | seriously bagder, i thought mp3 only goes up to 320kbs. not 640kbs |
| 22:57:42 | [IDC]Dragon | I need to know for my A/V multiplex format |
| 22:58:04 | Zagor | Atrack: the spec only goes up to 320, but you can squeeze more in using free format |
| 22:58:05 | [IDC]Dragon | to tell when the audio data is necessary |
| 22:58:17 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: ah, right |
| 22:58:30 | Atrack | ok |
| 22:58:39 | diddystar5 | i was thinking about noise reduction |
| 22:58:41 | Atrack | doubt if the 2mb buffer can handle the stream |
| 22:58:51 | diddystar5 | and archos |
| 22:58:56 | Atrack | the HD would spin up every 20 seconds |
| 22:59:03 | Atrack | huge battery drain |
| 22:59:10 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: i don't think you should support free format. it's not worth it for the 5 people in the world who have ever tried it, and then just for fun ;) |
| 22:59:24 | diddystar5 | can we pick up what current frequencies are currently heard using the mic? |
| 22:59:28 | [IDC]Dragon | No, I can't and won't |
| 22:59:49 | Atrack | Zagor it says in the specs it plays back 32-320kbs |
| 22:59:50 | Atrack | not higher |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:05 | Zagor | as i said |
| 23:00:31 | Atrack | the manual is well out of date |
| 23:02:39 | Atrack | perhaps I should update it now I have Adobe Acrobat |
| 23:02:40 | Atrack | :-) |
| 23:03:56 | Atrack | seriously |
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| 23:04:32 | Atrack | one way of contributing |
| 23:04:44 | Zagor | the manual was rewritten about a month ago. i suggest you submit suggestions and corrections to those who wrote it. |
| 23:04:53 | Atrack | oh ok |
| 23:05:06 | Atrack | its just that wiv the bleeding edges new features keep coming in |
| 23:08:50 | Atrack | upside mode is pretty cool |
| 23:08:52 | Atrack | upside down mode |
| 23:09:37 | [IDC]Dragon | thanks |
| 23:10:00 | Atrack | was that your patch dragon? |
| 23:10:21 | [IDC]Dragon | commit, not patch ;) |
| 23:10:50 | Atrack | ok |
| 23:10:51 | Atrack | :D |
| 23:10:59 | Atrack | Not sure what you would use it for though |
| 23:11:07 | Atrack | as the headphone socket would be on the wrong end |
| 23:11:30 | [IDC]Dragon | depend which way you hold it |
| 23:11:34 | [IDC]Dragon | depends |
| 23:11:48 | Atrack | yea |
| 23:11:56 | [IDC]Dragon | it it's in a pocket, you reach in from the top |
| 23:11:57 | Atrack | seems like the Player never gets a look-in anymore |
| 23:12:00 | Atrack | ok |
| 23:12:09 | [IDC]Dragon | look-in? |
| 23:12:31 | Atrack | i mean, no-one mentions the Player anymore |
| 23:12:51 | [IDC]Dragon | I will get one in a few weeks |
| 23:12:58 | Atrack | does anyone here have a Player? |
| 23:13:00 | [IDC]Dragon | to try flashing it |
| 23:13:08 | Atrack | bagder, zagor, anyone? |
| 23:13:21 | Bagder | I never had one |
| 23:13:33 | Bagder | and my recorder is broken atm :-/ |
| 23:13:44 | Atrack | how did u break your recorder? |
| 23:13:48 | [IDC]Dragon | oh, why? |
| 23:13:56 | Zagor | i have a player |
| 23:13:57 | Bagder | that fun "hd reg error" thing |
| 23:14:06 | Atrack | oh ok |
| 23:14:13 | Bagder | the disk just don't spin up |
| 23:14:26 | Atrack | My archos is showing its age now |
| 23:14:29 | Atrack | though it still works |
| 23:14:30 | Bagder | I'll have zagor help me diagnose it |
| 23:14:40 | Atrack | yea |
| 23:15:04 | Atrack | Ive only had that red led problem occur to me once or twice |
| 23:17:48 | elinenbe | does Rockbox work on the Neo in it's current state, and what is up with the Neo developers with the GPL stuff? |
| 23:18:19 | Bagder | elinenbe: it does not yet work on the Neo |
| 23:18:30 | elinenbe | Bagder: what else needs to be done? |
| 23:18:33 | Bagder | ... and the Open Neo sources now have our headers/copyright texts back |
| 23:18:54 | Bagder | elinenbe: we need some Neo-specific startup code to start with |
| 23:19:01 | Atrack | Has Archos ever thought about contacting you lot for the firmware? |
| 23:19:24 | Bagder | or rather, we need to merge it, since the code is there to read |
| 23:20:29 | Bagder | Atrack: you want us to answer what Archos ever thought? |
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| 23:20:48 | Atrack | yea |
| 23:20:53 | Atrack | Seriously what did archos think? |
| 23:21:06 | Bagder | They once thought "I should eat more bagettes for lunch" ;-) |
| 23:21:13 | Atrack | lol |
| 23:21:27 | Atrack | I held the Gmini once |
| 23:24:26 | Atrack | talk about razorblade marketing |
| 23:24:39 | Atrack | with the downloadable plugins you need to access recording and the like |
| 23:29:20 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") |
| 23:35:10 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: you that you have a player, can you try if the bleeding edge build still plays music on it, please? |
| 23:35:48 | Zagor | ok |
| 23:36:07 | Zagor | in a minute |
| 23:36:19 | [IDC]Dragon | shure, take your time |
| 23:48:45 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: do you mind if I implement the plugin function mp3_get_buffer()? |
| 23:50:54 | elinenbe | how do I create a patch from the current CVS? I think I forgot :D |
| 23:51:26 | Bagder | edit the file, 'cvs diff -u file > file.patch' |
| 23:52:18 | elinenbe | Bagder: thanks so much. |
| 23:52:29 | elinenbe | I've been away too long. |
| 23:53:16 | | Quit earHertz ("ChatZilla 0.9.54b [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031007]") |
| 23:56:12 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: I was wondering if you could create grayscale functions that could be used in plugins, or would that be impossible with the methods use are using? It would be great to make a game grayscale |
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