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#rockbox log for 2004-01-18

00:00:57Zagorthat's a bit more than we needed to know, but ok ;)
00:02:12midhaarrockersniff :(
00:03:47Doggerhey zagor?
00:03:59DoggerI'm trying to find a PDA keyboard that I can hook up to the av300
00:04:08Doggerhave you looked into it for other archos devices?
00:04:30DoggerI saw that the handspring visor seems to have same signals / voltages etc?
00:04:31Zagorno, it didn't ever feel useful with the tiny screen on these things
00:04:48Doggerthink I'll give the handspring one a go
00:05:00Doggerit *says* in the specs it takes its power off the rx line
00:05:07Doggerso it just needs rx tx gnd
00:05:14Doggershould work :)
00:05:28Doggeryeah I thought that was a bit odd,
00:05:31Doggerbut cool if it works
00:05:38DoggerI dont want some extra power lead for it really
00:06:09midhaarrockerDo serial mice use more lines than rx tx gnd?
00:06:26Zagordunno. i don't think so though.
00:06:36Doggerno dont think so actually
00:06:49Doggerbut they are rs232 levels
00:06:53Doggerso youd need a converter
00:06:59Doggerwhich might need power itself
00:09:17DoggerI did think about building it,
00:09:29Doggerbut I'm not that good at soldering etc
00:09:39Doggerso I used one of my old nokia datacables
00:09:44Doggerdoes the same job
00:10:20DoggerI did build one for my playstation ages ago though,
00:10:28Doggerseem to remember their circuit used more chips though
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00:14:26Doggerhey zagor?
00:14:34Doggerjust quick question on ata...
00:14:51DoggerI tried doing the same as rockbox on READ_SECTORS,
00:14:57Doggereg wait for BSY,
00:15:11Doggerand it didn't work... I got a number of 0xd0's in data, then real data
00:15:18Doggerit works if I wait for DRQ instead
00:15:29Doggernot sure why :)
00:18:52Zagorumm, we wait for drq too (wait_for_start_of_transfer())
00:18:52[IDC]DragonHey, Rockbox executes in flash!!!!!
00:19:00Zagorwoo, nice!
00:19:09midhaarrockerno performance problems?
00:19:20[IDC]DragonDunno yet
00:19:28[IDC]DragonJust came up
00:19:37[IDC]Dragonit looks slower, I think
00:19:38Zagorvisible difference, e.g. when scrolling or somthing?
00:19:55[IDC]Dragonnot for scrolling
00:20:12_aLF[IDC]Dragon> there is more room for mp3 buffer ?
00:20:13[IDC]DragonI think it was slower to read my monster root dir
00:20:25[IDC]Dragon_aLF: yes
00:20:34Zagorhow much? (menu->info)
00:20:58DoggerZagor: I couldn't see it *waiting* for DRQ, I thought it just failed if DRQ not set after wait_for_busy? Or does that failure mean it retrys?
00:21:05[IDC]DragonI have 8MB
00:21:31ZagorDogger: we never call wait_for_bsy in read_sectors...?
00:21:40Doggerin wait_for_xfer
00:22:00Zagorright, end of xfer
00:22:18ZagorDRQ should not be asserted when the transfer is completed
00:22:57[IDC]Dragon7.770MB left, instead of normally 7.614 MB
00:23:16midhaarrocker[IDC]Dragon: Do still both firmwares (archos + rockbox) fit into the flash?
00:24:35[IDC]DragonThere is some potential for more memory, if we're more disciplined with "const" in front of read-only arrays
00:24:35_aLFit's add about 9% for 2M
00:25:33[IDC]DragonCurrently, such arrays get doubled into the RAM
00:28:24midhaarrockerWell, if rockbox is so fast that it can run from flash - that makes me crave for the peak-meter-thread again :)
00:28:47DoggerI want a spectrum analyser!
00:29:47[IDC]DragonPlayback and recording still seems to work, I haven't found anything unusual so far.
00:30:08midhaarrockerDogger: These things are expensive. I had one at my job... :)
00:30:12[IDC]Dragonthe most critical functions are in IRAM anyway
00:31:22midhaarrocker[IDC]Dragon: you're sure you didn't accidently rolo an old rockbox version? :)
00:32:36[IDC]DragonOops, with my recording test I was in RAM again, yes
00:32:57[IDC]Dragon(originally to check the mp3 buf size)
00:33:08Doggermidhaarrocker: no I mean on my av300
00:33:18Doggeraudio output spectrum analyser
00:33:37Zagorthat's messy with the mas. you need to do it in the cpu.
00:33:52DoggerI think the cpu on av300 is fast enough,
00:33:56Doggerno reason why not,
00:34:02midhaarrockerDogger: That thing for sure would me smaller than that techtronics monster.
00:34:35Doggeris the adc controlable?
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00:34:44[IDC]Dragonrecording ROM-based also works.
00:34:44Doggercould you use it as say a voltmeter?
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00:35:34midhaarrocker[IDC]Dragon: Yay!
00:35:35midhaarrockerDogger: and as a portable osci
00:35:41Doggernice :)
00:36:00ZagorDogger: no i mean you need to decode the mp3 in the cpu
00:36:07DoggerZagor: sure
00:36:29Doggerbut but you can get spectrum analysed info out of the mp3 without decoding it all I expect
00:36:39Doggerprolly be load intensive,
00:36:44Doggerand maybe not fast update speed,
00:36:47midhaarrockerEverybody has success, only I still am stuck with that trigger.
00:36:50Doggerbut definately possible
00:37:55[IDC]DragonSo far everything runs well from ROM
00:38:09[IDC]DragonAny more ideas on what may be critical?
00:38:19midhaarrockerRunning the osci demo
00:38:33Zagortried recording?
00:38:42[IDC]Dragonyes, works
00:38:53[IDC]Dragonthe code is in IRAM anyway
00:39:03Zagorwell, not all of it :)
00:39:09midhaarrockerPlayback at high bitrates with high-performance peak meter...
00:39:24midhaarrockerand a wps with many scrolling lines
00:39:58[IDC]Dragon(cranking up the recording bitrate now)
00:42:23[IDC]Dragonno problems by now.
00:42:27midhaarrockerOnce upon a time playback with 320 kbit and many scrolling lines was problematic.
00:43:11[IDC]Dragonmidhaarrocker: don't have the files to reproduce that at hand
00:43:38[IDC]Dragonand need to sleep now
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00:49:21Zagori'm hitting the sack too. bye guys.
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07:20:22StevenmHey people
07:20:27Stevenmanyone encounter this bug?
07:21:00Stevenmif an MP3 is playing, and you hit F1 and then select Browse Plugins, rockbox just returns to the while playing screen?
07:21:31StevenmAt this point, pressing Off and Rewind brings up the plugin screen.
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07:54:57StevenmActually, you cannot browse ANYTHING (fonts, plug-ins, etc) while a file is playing !
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08:45:44kranium256hey could you help me .. .i unmounted my recorder improperly ... and now one folder of mine has gone corrupt .. i cant even delete it ... what do i do?
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09:49:59shad0w1ehi, is there any possibility of rockbox supporting WMA one day?
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10:40:11exquisitanybody awake?
10:40:40exquisiti need help
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12:38:00exquisitanybody here`?
13:00:19exquisitcan u help me on my archos?
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13:04:45exquisitanybody help me?
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13:10:33Nibblerexquisit: depends on your problem i assume....
13:13:23exquisitwell i think its simple
13:13:35exquisitare u here? :)
13:13:44exquisitnot that im talking to myself...
13:14:13exquisiti deleted the disc of my jukebox recorder 20
13:14:38exquisitand i thought i just can drop the rockbox firmware in it and it'll restart
13:14:44exquisitbut it didnt.... :(
13:15:07exquisitit says: file system error
13:15:07exquisitno valid FAT16/32
13:15:08exquisitfile system found
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13:23:55exquisithey, can anybody help me or are asleep?
13:29:08Nibblerdid you format your disk?
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13:30:47exquisityes i did
13:31:10exquisiti had to, cause it wouldnt boot on osx anymore
13:31:23Nibblerthe disk of your archos i mean
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13:31:56exquisitthe archos disc
13:32:05Nibblerso what filesystem did u format it with?
13:32:14exquisitosx extended
13:32:23Nibblerso ;-)
13:32:27exquisitand with capability to boot on os9
13:32:34exquisitwas that a fault?
13:32:45Nibblerand then your firmware is telling you "no valid fat16/32 found"
13:33:00exquisitwhats that?
13:33:10Nibblerthats the only filesystem archos can handle
13:33:25exquisitand where do have this filesystem?
13:33:30exquisitor what does it mean
13:33:40Nibbleryou need to format your archos as fat32
13:33:58Nibbleryou can do this with any linux/windoze
13:33:58exquisithm, im not sure if i can do that
13:34:05Nibbleror with tools like parition magic
13:34:08exquisiti dont have windows
13:34:16exquisiti have a mac
13:34:33exquisitthat sounds quite difficult :)
13:34:47exquisitim not a pro...
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13:36:21exquisitdoes this tool "parition magic" run on mac?
13:36:44Nibblerno idea! doubt it
13:37:24exquisitso, am i fucked?
13:37:49exquisitbut i guess i could run linux on osx?
13:39:51exquisiti guess i need a window comp
13:40:32Nibblerno idea about mac, sorry :|
13:40:41exquisitand download this partition magic
13:40:55exquisitor can i do it just like this on a windwos comp?
13:41:04exquisiti can go to a friend who has a pc
13:41:13_aLFparted run on linux, it's like partition magic
13:41:28_aLFperhaps there is mac version
13:42:03Nibblerexquisit: easiest is to go to a friend and just plug in the archos and format it as fat32
13:44:04exquisityeah guess so
13:44:22exquisitand how does that work on pc?
13:44:35exquisiti prolly know as much about pcs as you abozt macs :)
13:44:48exquisitalf: parted?
13:44:57Nibblerjust open the file-explorer, right click on the archos-drive and say "format" choose fat32 there
13:45:05Nibbler(install archos drivers b4)
13:45:50_aLFexquisit> you want to create a fat32 partition ?
13:45:52_aLFon mac
13:46:23exquisityes, alf
13:46:26exquisitthanks nibbler
13:46:50exquisitmaybe im going to my friend later, but if _alf can help me it would be better :)
13:47:45exquisitis it called GNU parted, alf?
13:48:01Nibbleryes :)
13:48:33exquisitdamn life aint easy
13:49:24exquisitdo linux programms/tools run on osx?
13:49:37exquisitsorry for those stupid questions :)
13:50:48_aLFthere is fink
13:51:07exquisitwhat is fink?
13:51:12_aLFa set of linux programs compiles for macox
13:51:22_aLFbut there isn't parted
13:52:24exquisiti downloaded parted
13:52:31exquisitbut i dont know how to run it
13:52:40exquisitit looks like id have to run some scripts
13:52:47exquisitand thats too much for me :)
13:53:39_aLFhum I have a complex solution (I'm sure there is more simple): download and burn this iso
13:54:07_aLFthis is a life cd for linux : you boot on it, and you have a working linux with parted etc...
13:54:38exquisitokay, what do i have to dl?
13:55:06exquisitall those tools on this site?
13:55:23exquisitdl and then burn to a disc? and then rebbot the comp?
13:56:07_aLFyes dl,burn and reboot and cd
13:58:24exquisitrebbot on the cd?
13:59:58_aLFif you don't know at linux, it should be complex
14:00:09_aLFfor formating the partition
14:00:25exquisitwell, i dont know linux
14:00:37exquisityou have to come and help me :)
14:00:56exquisithmmm.. so it would be better if i go to my pc-friend?
14:01:24_aLFyes !
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14:03:08exquisitas a mac user im alsways in problem
14:03:15exquisitbut they look better :)
14:03:53exquisitmaybe i should go to a channel for mac-users
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16:05:01Silencio^I have a question, do u know if the team expects to make DJ modules in rockbox ?
16:06:21Timbelswhat do u mean by that?
16:06:30Timbelsit already has a pitch control
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18:30:34StevenmHey are any rockbox coders on?
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19:11:58StevenmHas anyone had problems with Plug-ins under CVS2004118 ?
19:12:15Zagorwhat kind of problems?
19:12:36StevenmIf I select Browse Plugins while a song is playing, the screen returns to WPS
19:12:47Stevenmsame with fonts or languages
19:13:32StevenmIf I stop playback and select that I don't want to make a bookmark, THEN it goes to the plugin screen
19:13:54Zagorok. sounds like we didn't test that enough :)
19:14:00Zagori'll take a look. thanks.
19:14:12Stevenmand speaking of bookmarks, I'm always asked if I want to create one regardless of what the Bookmark on Stop is set to
19:15:14Zagorthat's odd. i'm not!
19:16:12StevenmLet me go back to this version..
19:18:02StevenmOkay.. I play a file
19:18:07StevenmI press F1, select Browse Plugins
19:18:25Stevenmand the screen goes back to the song name / position/time/etc
19:18:43StevenmI press Off and I get a list of plug-ins
19:20:10Zagoroh, i have 040116. sorry.
19:20:42StevenmOk.. the bookmark thing isn't happening anymore..
19:21:00Stevenmweird, but it doesn't matter I guess. still can't browse plug-ins though
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19:21:38Stevenmwhat is strange is that I can go into the rocks directory and start plugins that way, but not from the menu
19:21:57Zagoryeah, sounds like we broke something in the browser
19:22:01Zagorhi hardeep
19:28:28hardeepZagor: now that we have mkdir(), can we add a check at startup to see if the .rockbox directory has been created and, if not, create it?
19:28:52Zagoryeah, that's the plan. i just want mkdir tested a little more first :-)
19:29:02hardeepah, okay. :)
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19:39:28[IDC]DragonHi Zagor!
19:40:15[IDC]DragonI've my tools now to make uncompressed ucls theat run from ROM
19:40:32[IDC]Dragontheat => that
19:40:57[IDC]Dragonand found something that's broken
19:40:58Zagornice. the only messy thing is that we now need four more builds... :)
19:41:08Zagorexcellent! what?
19:41:25[IDC]Dragonthe viewers don't work any more
19:41:33[IDC]Dragonrockbox fails to load them
19:41:51[IDC]DragonI guess something in the code id not ROM-proof.
19:41:58[IDC]Dragonis not
19:42:12[IDC]Dragonbut I haven't searched for it
19:42:35[IDC]Dragonit's a common error to to something like:
19:42:50[IDC]Dragonchar* mybuf = "ABCDEFGHI"
19:43:02[IDC]Dragonand then later write into that space
19:43:33[IDC]Dragonbut the buffer will be in the rodata segment
19:43:53Zagoryeah. are we doing that anywhere?
19:44:14[IDC]DragonDunno, but I had such in past embedded projects.
19:44:36[IDC]DragonEverything works fine in RAM-based development, but not in ROM.
19:44:39Zagorthey didn't have The Code Police! ;)
19:45:08[IDC]DragonI once made a circuit to detect rom writes and break
19:45:39[IDC]DragonAnother thing: we can't flash while running from ROM
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19:46:17Zagorouch, good point
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19:46:33[IDC]Dragon(obvious, but I overlooked that, too)
19:47:02Zagornot too easily solved, without linking most of the disk/ata code into the flash plugin
19:47:20Zagordisk/fat, i mean
19:47:26[IDC]DragonWell, we could if the plugin is rude: load the full thing, disable interrupts, flash
19:47:54Zagortrue. load into the big buffer, flash and then reboot.
19:48:58[IDC]DragonReducing the data segment is a can of worms. There's so many places which could need a "const".
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19:49:33[IDC]DragonThe tools also generate non-const arrays for font, language.
19:50:12Zagoryup. we've pretty much skipped const, since it's a can of worms in an of itself :)
19:50:33[IDC]DragonNot if The Code Police is alert
19:50:50Zagortrue. we were simply lazy.
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19:51:58[IDC]DragonI may "const"ize some files within the next days or so, if nobody objects
19:52:09Zagorfine with me
19:52:23Zagorjust fix all warnings too :)
19:52:35[IDC]Dragonmany-multi-file commits, but no real change
19:52:53[IDC]Dragonyep, a lot of yellow may happen
19:53:38[IDC]DragonI need to touch the tools as well
19:54:08Zagorgo ahead. just don't make a mess ;)
19:54:25[IDC]Dragoncu later
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19:59:12Stevenmhey do any of you guys use Linux for development?
19:59:28Zagormost developers do
19:59:40StevenmDo you think you can hook me up with a devkit?
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20:00:04Stevenmapparently my system's GCC refuses to compile the sh1-targeted gcc
20:00:20Zagorwhat does it say?
20:00:24Stevenmand I've done the whole binutils and path thing and all
20:00:29Stevenmsomething about an unresolved symbol
20:00:50Stevenm../../../gcc-3.0.4/gcc/config/sh/lib1funcs.asm:166: Error: no such instruction: `rts'
20:02:30Zagordid you use the 2.11 binutils?
20:04:42StevenmI followed the instructions on the site exactly.. well, substituting linus for my username
20:04:52Stevenm../../../gcc-3.0.4/gcc/config/sh/lib1funcs.asm:166: Error: no such instruction: `rts'
20:04:52Stevenmmake[2]: *** [libgcc/./_ashiftrt.o] Error
20:04:52Stevenmis what I get
20:05:09Stevenmso I was hoping someone could just throw some binaries my way.. filesize permitting
20:06:25Zagori've zipped up mine, but i bet you'll run into library version inconsistencies. let's try.
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20:18:26mbrZagor: read my addition to bug report "Rockbox becomes instable(different bugs)"?
20:18:46mbrIt's weired, but it seems that I really get a BUTTON_OFF
20:18:59Zagorthat is indeed very very strange
20:19:33mbrDo you think it may be a hw problem?
20:20:26mbrThe BUTTON_OFF can also explain the unasked "Create Bookmark"
20:20:57mbrSince I'm back to adc.c 1.5 I have no problem
20:21:42mbrI run that version to whole da without a single playback stop
20:22:09mbrBut when I rebooted to the version with adc.c 1.6 I got several stops
20:22:32Zagoraha. ok, we'll need to check those changes with linus
20:22:55mbrIs he around tomorrow?
20:25:42Zagorprobably. send a mail to the list to be sure to reach him.
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21:33:05eajeffI am a newbie with an install question
21:33:44eajeffwhen I dl 2.1 (first time dl rockbox), it gives me playlist buffer full
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21:37:31eajeffI have looked at the FAQ but cannot find a solution
21:38:24scott666how many files do you have on your archos?
21:38:44eajeffyou mean in my rockbox folder?
21:38:52scott666no, mp3s
21:39:11scott666if i remember right that error has something to do with how many files you have
21:39:33scott666and theres a setting you can change
21:39:38eajeffI have not loaded any. There were only 3 that was pre-loaded when I got my new Jukebox recorder 20
21:39:57eajeffI assume I have version 1; nowhere does it mention version 2
21:40:20eajeffwhat settings should I change, scott?
21:40:44scott666ummm....its something about playlist buffer size, but that cant be it if you only have 3 files
21:41:07eajeffyeh, I have not added any files.
21:41:13scott666you have all the files that go in the .rockbox folder, right?
21:41:19scott666the full zip
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21:41:58eajeffwell, I unzipped the rockbox folder. But maybe something is missing but I wouldnt know what
21:42:15scott666and it boots up fine, right?
21:42:40eajeffyes it boots up fine
21:43:02eajeffthen when go play a file, it quickly gives me playlist buffer full message
21:43:25scott666just to be clear, the folder is '.rockbox' right? with the '.'?
21:43:31eajeffI am probably doing something fundamentally wrong
21:44:08eajeffscott, you mean the folder I see on the JBR?
21:44:13eajeffthere is a rockbox
21:44:34scott666'.rockbox', or 'rockbox'
21:45:09eajeffit may just be rockbox. i will have to recheck as I uninstalled rockbox to use it this afternoon
21:45:11scott666if you just extracted the zip folder it should be '.rockbox'
21:45:28eajeffif it is just rockbox, then what caused that
21:45:33eajefflet me tell you what I did
21:45:41eajeffe is my JBR on my computer
21:45:46scott666what OS?
21:45:59eajeffversion 1.28 on JBR
21:46:04eajeffXP on computer
21:46:28eajeffI extracted the rockbox folder and the ajbrec.ajz to e
21:46:37eajeffI hope that was correct
21:46:51scott666e: being the archos drive?
21:47:05eajeffI waited till I could safely eject
21:47:20eajefftook off USB2 cable, then powered off and then on
21:47:44eajeffwhen I power on, it says rockbox
21:47:59scott666and then?
21:48:41eajeffI try to play one of the preloaded mp3s and it gives me the buffer full message
21:49:32scott666try installing it again and tell me what happens
21:49:34eajeffI know the JBR is working with archos software since I tried to record a file from the radio and replayed it successfully
21:50:08eajeffI will; I will notice particularly if folder says .rockbox
21:50:45eajeffCan you guide me to look to make sure I have all the appropriate files in .rockbox
21:51:14scott666but as long as you download the 2.1 zip and extract everything it should be fine
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21:51:42eajeffI am extracting "both" the rockbox folder and the ajbrec.ajz file
21:51:47scott666i think the offending file is '.playlist_control'
21:52:00scott666everything thats in the zip should get extracted to the root of your archos
21:52:17eajeffwell I read where that might be the offending file and at one point deleted that file but that didnt help
21:52:47scott666the offensive part would be it not existing
21:52:55scott666or not being in '.rockbox'
21:56:40eajeffscott: let me know when you are back
21:57:23eajeffok, you are back?
21:57:49eajeffany other thoughts otherwise I will try again to reinstall
21:58:35scott666just go for it
21:58:51eajeffthanks, I will let you know. If it doesnt work, I have no idea where to go from here
21:59:09eajeffone thing I will let you know
21:59:39eajeffI actually bought this a year ago and had it sitting unopened till yesterday. Not sure if that makes any difference to anything
21:59:52scott666doubt it
22:00:07scott666lemme do a search for the error quick
22:00:31eajeffI tried also and didnt find the exact error
22:00:53eajeffbut go for it
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22:03:08scott666i didnt find anything new, lemme know what happens after you try installing again
22:03:25eajeffI will be back in a bit. Thanks for your help
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22:33:03Zagorhardeep: mark bugs "resolution: fixed" when you fix them
22:34:27hardeepZagor: I don't believe I have access to do that
22:34:40Zagoroh, ok. i'll fix that.
22:38:50Zagorfixed now, i think
22:40:11hardeepworks, thanks
22:41:02Zagori'm off, see you
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23:33:22diddystar5Bagder: there is a ban on ALL aol in this chat
23:33:28diddystar5please fix :)
23:33:56Bagderonly on
23:34:11Bagderbut I agree its not that nce is ALL of aol :)
23:34:55Mode"#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
23:35:03Mode"#rockbox -b *!*@* " by Bagder (
23:35:23Bagderthe intension is to keep track out
23:35:36diddystar5what more has track done?
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23:35:57BagderI don't know exactly what made zagor ban him
23:36:04diddystar5i remember the mikeh0lden thing
23:36:10Bagderbut his mail to zagor afterwards is reason enough for me
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23:36:34Bagderdiddystar5: that was track trying to make mike holden look bad by regging a similar name as he has
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23:38:47diddystar5i wish i could quit aol...
23:39:06diddystar5everyone hates you in places like #c when they see your aol name
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23:40:59diddystar5not sure if that will help, the ACBED4D5 thing changes evertime you dissconnect, and reconnect
23:41:24BagderI'll let it be like this for now anyway
23:42:28diddystar5Bagder: my new vu meter will be almost ready for commit when i finish the needle arch :)
23:42:49diddystar5then i just need to optimise the code and clean it up
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