| 00:00:22 | midknight2k3 | track: i know you'll read this, your email is once again blocked |
| 00:00:23 | [IDC]Dragon | but a simulator with assembler is not bad! |
| 00:00:49 | [IDC]Dragon | Too bad I don't know DSP stuff |
| 00:01:01 | [IDC]Dragon | the ASM code seems a real mess to me |
| 00:01:33 | Zagor | yeah, i think i'll pass on it too :) |
| 00:02:07 | [IDC]Dragon | any DSP hacker in the Rockbox community? |
| 00:02:36 | Zagor | maybe bluechip wants to have a go at it. |
| 00:02:46 | Bagder | linus said he'd mail him |
| 00:02:55 | Zagor | ok |
| 00:04:01 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't expect much from the download feature of the MAS |
| 00:04:24 | [IDC]Dragon | just WAV playback and internal bitswap would be great already |
| 00:05:34 | midknight2k3 | bye people |
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| 00:06:05 | [IDC]Dragon | heh, there's even some german in the example code |
| 00:08:11 | [IDC]Dragon | the sim really works |
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| 00:19:55 | Zagor | yikes, the 3507 is 12 years old! |
| 00:20:19 | [IDC]Dragon | got gray hair |
| 00:20:34 | Zagor | hi Linus |
| 00:21:04 | Bagder | rumours say linus has so little hair he now uses glue on his head! ;-P |
| 00:21:13 | LinusN | :-) |
| 00:21:27 | * | Zagor feels he missed an inside joke |
| 00:22:01 | * | LinusN fell through the bottom of a bed and had to glue together a cut in his head |
| 00:22:05 | [IDC]Dragon | the MAS has a very small address space, maybe something useful _does_ fit in the download region |
| 00:22:13 | Zagor | ouch |
| 00:22:16 | [IDC]Dragon | the internal ROM seems to be small |
| 00:22:27 | LinusN | the bed was 2 meters high |
| 00:22:35 | Zagor | OUCH |
| 00:22:39 | LinusN | and Smilla and Rasmus fell too |
| 00:22:49 | LinusN | blood all over |
| 00:22:56 | LinusN | ambulance to the hospital |
| 00:23:01 | [IDC]Dragon | uh oh |
| 00:23:20 | LinusN | smilla looked like Rocky 4 |
| 00:24:12 | LinusN | fyi, we are all well now, no serious injuries |
| 00:24:26 | LinusN | the mas dox are interesting indeed |
| 00:24:33 | Zagor | i guessed so, from the fact that you're here :) |
| 00:24:50 | Zagor | yeah, they are |
| 00:25:02 | LinusN | terribly slow site... |
| 00:25:11 | LinusN | took some time to pull the files from it |
| 00:25:23 | Bagder | its been rockboxed ;-) |
| 00:25:36 | LinusN | maybe the site was slashdott...rockboxed :-) |
| 00:25:54 | [IDC]Dragon | can be as slow as it wants, for _that_ kind of info I don't mind |
| 00:26:14 | LinusN | this will be a lot of fun |
| 00:26:34 | [IDC]Dragon | done any DSP stuff? |
| 00:26:56 | LinusN | and since the dox were out in the wild, we are home free, methinks |
| 00:27:08 | LinusN | yes, i have done *some* DSP programming |
| 00:27:35 | Zagor | LinusN: well we still can't redistribute it |
| 00:27:45 | [IDC]Dragon | it even has hardware task control! |
| 00:27:52 | LinusN | no, but we can redistribute our source |
| 00:28:06 | Zagor | agreed |
| 00:28:14 | LinusN | and we can write our own assembler |
| 00:28:34 | [IDC]Dragon | there's one in the simulator |
| 00:28:54 | LinusN | yes, but we shouldn't rely on stolen tools |
| 00:29:20 | LinusN | open source isn't worth anything if nobody can compile it |
| 00:29:52 | [IDC]Dragon | the assembled stuff is still readable |
| 00:30:24 | [IDC]Dragon | and I wouldn't mind that kind of object code |
| 00:31:08 | [IDC]Dragon | don't need to assemble it myself |
| 00:32:02 | wethion | Hi folks. I'm runninf Debian unstable with the 2.6 kernel. ISD-200 is compiled in, it's a Debian kernel. when I try to start /etc/init.d/hotplug, I get can't syth pci hotplug events usb. suggestions? |
| 00:32:18 | Bagder | night |
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| 00:32:40 | LinusN | wethion: no idea, sorry |
| 00:32:48 | LinusN | gotta go too, cu folks |
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| 00:33:19 | Zagor | wethion: i never use hotplug myself, i simply have all drivers loaded all the time :) (yeah, i'm lazy) |
| 00:33:29 | Zagor | but I too run debian and 2.6.1 |
| 00:33:59 | wethion | Zagor: what drivers do you load? that's my ultimate goal, once I get it working... |
| 00:34:13 | Zagor | ehci and usb-storage |
| 00:34:32 | Zagor | ehci is for usb2.0 |
| 00:34:43 | Zagor | you'll use uhci or ohci for usb 1.1 |
| 00:36:39 | Chomsky_ | Night folks |
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| 00:38:02 | wethion | Zagor: fsck. I have usb-storage.ko and all of the (x)hci drivers loaded. when I try and mount sde1 I now get /dev/sde1 is not a valid block device. |
| 00:38:56 | Zagor | try "cat /proc/scsi/scsi" to see which controller it's connected to |
| 00:40:11 | wethion | it's not there, just my HDs and cdrom. |
| 00:40:51 | Zagor | weird. it is connected and powered up, right? |
| 00:41:18 | Zagor | try "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" and see if you find anything called "archos" or "isd-200" in there |
| 00:41:29 | wethion | Zagor: Yes. /var/log/messages reports USB mass storage support is registered. |
| 00:42:28 | wethion | Zagor: WTF? there is no devices under /proc/bus/usb |
| 00:42:56 | Zagor | ah, you need to mount usbdevfs |
| 00:43:53 | Zagor | this is becoming a linux howto :) |
| 00:44:57 | wethion | Ok, I think this is getting beyond the realm of rockbox and reaching into pure debian hassles. no sweat if you want to drop off at this point. where can I look to get usbdevfs? it's not on my system. neither locate or apropos return any results. |
| 00:45:49 | [IDC]Dragon | goodnight |
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| 00:46:08 | Zagor | usbdevfs is part of the kernel. you may get better responses in #debian for some of these questions :-) |
| 00:46:34 | Zagor | especially the hotplug stuff, which I know next to nothing about |
| 00:47:00 | wethion | Zagor: cool enough. thanks much for helping me this far. I'm pretty sure once i get usbdevfs kup and running, I should be ok.. Thanks again. |
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| 01:21:42 | Phatbl0ke | Hi i was just wondering has it ever been considered to have a go at rockbox for ipod or is it out of the question? |
| 01:23:13 | Zagor | well the ipodlinux project hasn't been very encouraging |
| 01:23:39 | Phatbl0ke | yeah i have been keeping an eye on that too |
| 01:24:01 | Phatbl0ke | i was excited when i saw it but after watching the progress im a bit gutted |
| 01:24:40 | Zagor | afaik they still can't play mp3 at 100% speed. and that sort of takes the fun out of it :) |
| 01:26:24 | Phatbl0ke | yeah i guess, is it the fact thats its gonna be quite difficult or that noone is working too hard on it |
| 01:34:40 | Zagor | i don't know. my uneducated guess is that portalplayer are using a DSP to decode the audio stream, while the linuxipod folks are trying to do it in cpu only. |
| 01:35:25 | Zagor | and portalplayer is one of those nice companies who will only let you know how their chip works if you sign a contract to never release that information, including in your own source code |
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| 02:02:00 | mjack | i think my recorder 20 is screwed. when powering on it just sorta sits there and clicks... bad batteries? |
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| 03:41:05 | XtremeDev | hey anyone here |
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| 03:46:12 | hardeep | XtremeDev: sure |
| 03:46:51 | XtremeDev | cool watsu |
| 03:46:52 | XtremeDev | watsup |
| 03:47:26 | XtremeDev | i was wondering, do u know if rockbox is gonna get into the av300 series? or is there any open source software for the av300? (like avOS)? |
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| 03:48:32 | hardeep | XtremeDev: I believe Dogger is working on a firmware replacement for the av300 |
| 03:48:41 | XtremeDev | awesome, hey dogger u here? |
| 03:48:42 | hardeep | You can see info at avos.sourceforge.net |
| 03:48:44 | XtremeDev | does he have a site? |
| 03:48:54 | XtremeDev | yea avos, thats the one i saw so far, is that it? |
| 03:49:49 | hardeep | that's all I know about |
| 03:56:12 | Dogger | hey |
| 03:56:28 | Dogger | I have a 1st version bootloader done for the av300 :) |
| 03:56:45 | Dogger | I have several sites |
| 03:58:12 | Dogger | I just got a keyboard for my av300 :) |
| 03:58:18 | Dogger | gonna test it in a sec... |
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| 04:07:59 | Dogger | anyone here? |
| 04:12:43 | XtremeDev | yea im here r u ? |
| 04:12:51 | XtremeDev | sry i was away let me know if ur still around |
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| 04:37:31 | Dogger | hey |
| 04:37:40 | Dogger | I just got a pda keyboard to work on my av300! |
| 04:37:41 | Dogger | woo! |
| 04:39:15 | XtremeDev | which pda keyboard? |
| 04:47:33 | joshN | so what all do you have running on the av300? |
| 04:48:13 | XtremeDev | i got a couple movies, mostly mp3s tho |
| 04:48:23 | XtremeDev | i wish there can be firmware to run like gameboy roms or something |
| 04:48:33 | XtremeDev | using the buttons on the av320 and the joystick that would rock |
| 04:48:54 | XtremeDev | would make it a gaming device too how awesome |
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| 04:49:20 | XtremeDev | «Dogger» hey what other sites do u have for av320 firmware and stuff please |
| 04:50:17 | XtremeDev | anyway im gonna go for now |
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| 05:43:58 | Dogger | hi all, |
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| 07:22:17 | JesseG2_ | I noticed that when I tried to run the viewer plugin, and it crashes the player (Archos Jukebox 6000 player), while this doesn't bother me, I just wondered if anybody cared to know. |
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| 08:27:37 | rootcode | yo |
| 08:28:27 | rootcode | Where can I find a guide for connecting an Archos jukebox 6000 to my linux pc (Gentoo; Linux 2.6.1) |
| 08:35:14 | dwihno | I don't think there is any guides... |
| 08:35:26 | dwihno | It's rather easy though. |
| 08:35:39 | dwihno | Make sure you have the ISD200 module loaded |
| 08:36:02 | dwihno | Making it automount etc. - I don't know |
| 08:36:17 | dwihno | if the ISD200 is loaded, it should recognize the archos as a mass storage device. |
| 08:37:14 | rootcode | ok, I see. thanks |
| 08:39:47 | rootcode | what are your <opts> for the mp3 player in /etc/fstab |
| 08:42:10 | dwihno | erhm |
| 08:42:23 | dwihno | 0 0 at the end? :) |
| 08:42:35 | rootcode | just before that |
| 08:42:44 | dwihno | Don't remember really.. |
| 08:42:51 | dwihno | Doesn't require anything special... |
| 08:42:59 | dwihno | file system vfat, I think |
| 08:43:02 | rootcode | so "noatime" should be enough |
| 08:43:20 | dwihno | what's that? :) |
| 08:43:30 | rootcode | increase of performace ;) |
| 08:43:46 | rootcode | brb, gonna restart and test it out |
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| 08:49:37 | rootcode | back |
| 08:50:08 | rootcode | does usb_storage have to be included in the kernel? |
| 08:52:11 | dwihno | Sounds reasonable :) |
| 08:52:25 | dwihno | You can insert the modules manually. |
| 08:52:51 | rootcode | well I inserted the module but I still can't find /dev/sda1 |
| 08:54:34 | dwihno | What does the kernel say? |
| 08:54:46 | dwihno | Don't forget the ISD200 stuff |
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| 09:01:37 | rootcode | Linux version 2.6.1-gentoo (root@netware) (gcc version 3.2.3 20030422 (Gentoo Li nux 1.4 3.2.3-r3, propolice)) #4 Mon Jan 19 23:54:30 UTC 2004 |
| 09:01:37 | rootcode | BIOS-provided physical RAM map: |
| 09:01:37 | rootcode | BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) |
| 09:01:37 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK rootcode |
| 09:01:37 | rootcode | BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) |
| 09:01:39 | rootcode | BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) |
| 09:01:41 | rootcode | BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000017ffc000 (usable) |
| 09:01:43 | rootcode | BIOS-e820: 0000000017ffc000 - 0000000017fff000 (ACPI data) |
| 09:01:45 | rootcode | BIOS-e820: 0000000017fff000 - 0000000018000000 (ACPI NVS) |
| 09:01:47 | rootcode | BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved) |
| 09:01:49 | rootcode | BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved) |
| 09:01:53 | rootcode | BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) |
| 09:01:55 | rootcode | 383MB LOWMEM available. |
| 09:01:57 | rootcode | On node 0 totalpages: 98300 |
| 09:01:59 | rootcode | DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 |
| 09:02:01 | rootcode | Normal zone: 94204 pages, LIFO batch:16 |
| 09:02:03 | rootcode | HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 |
| 09:02:05 | rootcode | DMI 2.3 present. |
| 09:02:08 | rootcode | ACPI: RSDP (v000 ASUS ) @ 0x000f5f50 |
| 09:02:09 | rootcode | ACPI: RSDT (v001 ASUS A7V8X-X 0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x17ffc000 |
| 09:02:11 | rootcode | ACPI: FADT (v001 ASUS A7V8X-X 0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x17ffc0b2 |
| 09:02:13 | rootcode | ACPI: BOOT (v001 ASUS A7V8X-X 0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x17ffc030 |
| 09:02:15 | rootcode | ACPI: MADT (v001 ASUS A7V8X-X 0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x17ffc058 |
| 09:02:17 | rootcode | ACPI: DSDT (v001 ASUS A7V8X-X 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000b) @ 0x00000000 |
| 09:02:19 | rootcode | Building zonelist for node : 0 |
| 09:02:25 | rootcode | Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=303 |
| 09:02:27 | rootcode | Initializing CPU#0 |
| 09:02:29 | rootcode | PID hash table entries: 2048 (order 11: 16384 bytes) |
| 09:02:32 | rootcode | Detected 1834.274 MHz processor. |
| 09:02:33 | rootcode | Using tsc for high-res timesource |
| 09:02:35 | rootcode | Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 |
| 09:02:37 | rootcode | Memory: 385136k/393200k available (2261k kernel code, 7324k reserved, 827k data, 140k init, 0k highmem) |
| 09:02:39 | rootcode | Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. |
| 09:02:41 | rootcode | Calibrating delay loop... 3612.67 BogoMIPS |
| 09:02:43 | rootcode | Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) |
| 09:02:46 | rootcode | Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) |
| 09:02:47 | rootcode | Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) |
| 09:02:49 | rootcode | CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff |
| 09:02:53 | rootcode | dam, can't post all of dmesg in here |
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| 09:06:33 | rootcode | same error: /dev/sda1 doesn't exist |
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| 09:09:29 | dwihno | I never had any problems. |
| 09:10:21 | rootcode | are you on 2.6.x |
| 09:12:59 | rootcode | :o got it working |
| 09:13:46 | dwihno | What did you change? |
| 09:15:00 | rootcode | I had "auto" as my file system in fstab instead of vfat |
| 09:17:10 | dwihno | hehe |
| 09:17:16 | dwihno | Wups :) |
| 09:23:05 | dwihno | The best thing about the recorders must be the ISD300... |
| 09:23:17 | dwihno | I've connected it to dozens of strange systems without any kind of problems. |
| 09:23:46 | dwihno | BSD, Linux, Mac, DOS, WinXP, Win2k, Win98... Never had a single problem |
| 09:23:52 | dwihno | Well, 98 required some driver shiznat... |
| 09:24:11 | dwihno | \o/ mass storage compliance \o/ |
| 09:24:48 | dwihno | I wonder why almost every manufacturer won't obey any kind of standard and require their own software... |
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| 11:19:11 | c0utta | hooray - linus is here |
| 11:19:48 | LinusN | :-) |
| 11:20:27 | c0utta | linus, you asked me to submit my f2 functionality in incremental patches, correct ? |
| 11:21:48 | c0utta | i have my first diff as patch 877509 |
| 11:22:00 | c0utta | i have assigned it to you :) |
| 11:27:18 | LinusN | saw that |
| 11:27:52 | LinusN | btw, it is up to us developers to assign |
| 11:28:05 | c0utta | thought it might prompt your memory |
| 11:28:31 | c0utta | i'll be more courteous next time |
| 11:29:09 | LinusN | np |
| 11:29:24 | LinusN | i'll look into the menu patch asap (been busy lately) |
| 11:30:08 | c0utta | i heard about your bed accident |
| 11:30:39 | c0utta | busy at hospital |
| 11:31:14 | LinusN | hehe |
| 11:34:41 | dwihno | c0utta: you've done evil shnafu? |
| 11:34:48 | dwihno | Bed accident? :/ |
| 11:36:23 | LinusN | fell trough a 2m high bed, along with my kids, lots of blood, ambulance to Astrid Lindgren's hospital |
| 11:38:33 | c0utta | seeing your own childrens blood is not nice |
| 11:39:46 | dwihno | LinusN: Scary... Are you guys all right? |
| 11:40:22 | LinusN | yes, fortunately |
| 11:40:23 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 4 hours and 12 minutes at the last flood |
| 11:40:23 | * | dwihno remembers falling through a 0.5m bed - that hurt like hell as well... I can only imagine the consequences of a 2m fall :/ |
| 11:42:34 | c0utta | linus: because it's so cold, do you guys share the bed with your children ? |
| 11:42:38 | c0utta | or were you on holiday ? |
| 11:43:29 | LinusN | nah, i read Rasmus a fairy tale in his bed, and Smilla was with us. We fell asleep, and BANG! |
| 11:44:17 | c0utta | aha |
| 11:44:32 | c0utta | how do i refresh one file from cvs ? |
| 11:44:46 | c0utta | and overwrite the existing file ? |
| 11:46:13 | c0utta | don't worry |
| 11:46:30 | LinusN | remove the file and do "cvs update <filename>" |
| 11:46:33 | c0utta | delete file and cvs update -dP |
| 11:46:49 | c0utta | ta linus |
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| 12:12:51 | c0utta | a question: when Makefile is generated in the build directory, should it contain the line KEYPAD= |
| 12:14:56 | LinusN | mine doesn't |
| 12:15:10 | c0utta | hmmm |
| 12:15:21 | LinusN | which target? |
| 12:15:28 | c0utta | normal |
| 12:15:34 | c0utta | recorder |
| 12:15:42 | LinusN | player/recorder>/fm recorder/neo? |
| 12:15:44 | LinusN | aha |
| 12:15:51 | LinusN | win or linux? |
| 12:15:55 | c0utta | win |
| 12:16:14 | c0utta | worked ok on the sim |
| 12:18:32 | LinusN | as far as i can see, the keypad= is a sim thing only |
| 12:19:32 | dwihno | Are there portable Neo's, or are they all just car MP3 players? |
| 12:19:37 | c0utta | hmm, i assumed it was a part of the whole environment |
| 12:20:00 | LinusN | dwihno: car only, afaik |
| 12:20:27 | LinusN | c0utta: no, the keypad selection is done differently in the real targets |
| 12:20:44 | c0utta | so i need to use HAVE_LCD_BITMAP instead of HAVE_RECORDER_KEYPAD to determine if i have a recorder ? |
| 12:20:49 | dwihno | LinusN: I was just thinking what happens the day my Archos dies... It would be nice to know a second alternative. |
| 12:21:24 | LinusN | c0utta: both should work, but you are asking the wrong question |
| 12:22:19 | c0utta | ?? |
| 12:22:30 | c0utta | #ifdef HAVE_RECORDER_KEYPAD doesn't work |
| 12:23:01 | c0utta | #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP is correct then ? |
| 12:23:42 | LinusN | the question is: why do you want to know if you have a recorder? |
| 12:25:12 | c0utta | because some of the menu changes are only applicable for the recorder |
| 12:26:56 | LinusN | regarding the screen or the keys? |
| 12:27:32 | c0utta | the screen |
| 12:27:40 | LinusN | you should always ask for the specific feature (keypad, lcd etc), not for the archos model |
| 12:28:09 | LinusN | in this case, LCD_BITMAP |
| 12:28:47 | LinusN | however, HAVE_RECORDER_KEYPAD should work |
| 12:28:59 | LinusN | what do you mean by "doesn't work"? |
| 12:30:20 | c0utta | -dHAVE_RECORDER_KEYPAD does not appear in the sh-elf-gcc |
| 12:30:43 | LinusN | no, and that's intentional |
| 12:31:02 | c0utta | boy, am i confused.. |
| 12:31:05 | LinusN | it is defined in firmware/export/config-recorder.h |
| 12:31:42 | LinusN | there is a config-xxx.h file for each target |
| 12:31:55 | LinusN | but the simulator target is different |
| 12:36:32 | c0utta | yep, i can see that |
| 12:36:43 | c0utta | if i add a new .c or .h do i have to do anything ? |
| 12:36:52 | c0utta | i know i do with the simulator |
| 12:37:19 | LinusN | you don't need to do anything when compiling for real target |
| 12:42:21 | c0utta | i got a successful make |
| 12:42:36 | LinusN | nice |
| 12:42:45 | c0utta | but shouldn't HAVE_LCD_BITMAP be available ? |
| 12:43:25 | c0utta | i have had to comment it out to get a make |
| 12:43:48 | LinusN | it is defined in firmware/export/config-recorder.h |
| 12:44:21 | LinusN | and even if it wasn't defined, it should still compile |
| 12:45:57 | c0utta | what do you recommend when changing target ? |
| 12:46:03 | c0utta | remove the build directory ? |
| 12:46:11 | LinusN | use another dir |
| 12:46:29 | c0utta | too easy.. |
| 12:46:32 | LinusN | i have "recorder", "player" etc |
| 12:46:55 | LinusN | "recorder-sim" |
| 12:46:58 | LinusN | whatever |
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| 13:14:59 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 13:17:23 | LinusN | yo |
| 13:18:50 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 13:24:29 | c0utta | i have worked out how to get a user menu on F2 but keep the quick screens as they are |
| 13:24:43 | c0utta | easy really - well written code |
| 13:24:57 | c0utta | by Björn |
| 13:44:45 | LinusN | how did you solve it? |
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| 13:45:42 | c0utta | if you hold down f2, then press left you'll get both buttons |
| 13:45:56 | c0utta | button_f2 | button_left |
| 13:46:19 | c0utta | but if you just have button_f2 | button_rel |
| 13:46:27 | c0utta | this means you want the user menu |
| 13:46:47 | LinusN | ok |
| 13:47:43 | c0utta | i'm also thinking about button_f2 | button_repeat |
| 13:47:57 | c0utta | at the moment, a long press of f2 will cancel the menu |
| 13:49:00 | c0utta | i think this is wrong. if you press f2 and release it before pressing another key you should get the menu |
| 13:49:15 | c0utta | regardless of how long you've held down f2 |
| 13:50:21 | LinusN | absolutely |
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| 14:05:58 | c0utta | linus, i won't release the next patch until you've approved the previous one |
| 14:06:15 | c0utta | i'm not used to cvs yet and am concerned about stuffing things up |
| 14:06:30 | LinusN | i see, i'll look into it asap |
| 14:06:36 | c0utta | i'd prefer my patch to be committed |
| 14:07:00 | c0utta | no pressure either. i am probably 5 days away from releasing the next patch |
| 14:07:07 | LinusN | ok |
| 14:07:24 | c0utta | take your time, and provide me with criticism where required |
| 14:07:42 | c0utta | remember my c programming is >10 years now |
| 14:07:54 | c0utta | very rusty |
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| 14:41:07 | gz | is there any way to safely remove that warranty-seal? or to get a new one somewhere? |
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| 14:43:52 | LinusN | gz: i have heard of people using a hair dryer or hot-air gun |
| 14:44:51 | LinusN | "safely" :-) |
| 14:45:01 | gz | LinusN, that's what I did but to no real avail. or my hair dryer isn't just hot enough. and i don't know where my hot-air gun is. And i don't want to loose my guarantee on day one, but filling that harddrive with 10gb won't be much fun. |
| 14:45:10 | gz | anyhow i'll have to wait one hour before i can use it |
| 14:46:01 | LinusN | no usb2? |
| 14:46:12 | gz | Jukebox Recorder 15 |
| 14:46:36 | gz | dont think so. but 169 euro :) |
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| 14:54:02 | LinusN | gz: i don't remember, but as far as i know, rec15 could still have usb2.0, depending on the age of the hardware |
| 14:55:28 | gz | really? interessting, mine is brand new, but it was advertised as 1.1 iirc |
| 14:56:26 | gz | "...transfer rates up to 1MB/s ..." |
| 14:56:45 | LinusN | on the box? |
| 14:56:49 | gz | jep |
| 14:57:26 | gz | jukebox recorder 20 does have usb 2.0, but costs 100 euro more |
| 14:57:39 | LinusN | which windows version? |
| 14:58:36 | gz | XP. hey i haven't even plugged it in! |
| 14:58:51 | gz | it's still doing its initial charging. just got the thing |
| 14:59:51 | LinusN | i think you will notice if it is 1.1 or 2.0 when you connect it |
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| 15:00:07 | LinusN | if you need to install the driver, it is 1.1 |
| 15:00:17 | LinusN | if you don't it's 2.0 |
| 15:00:20 | gz | i think so, too :) my brother bought the same one a few days ago and it did just about 800kb/s writing+ |
| 15:02:31 | gz | it needs drivers |
| 15:03:01 | LinusN | too bad :-( |
| 15:03:13 | gz | yep, but cheap |
| 15:03:25 | LinusN | yup |
| 15:03:38 | dwihno | Recorder to the people \o/ |
| 15:04:44 | gz | i should wait+fully charge it before i store my data on it, shouldn't i? |
| 15:05:22 | LinusN | i think the batteries may like it that way |
| 15:05:51 | LinusN | and a sustained multi-gigabyte copy may drain the batteries, even if the charger is connected |
| 15:06:51 | gz | that's what i've read, too. that's the 2nd reason why i wanted to remove the HD, in order to plug it directly into my pc & copy in 30 mins instead of 5 hrs |
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| 15:07:38 | gz | btw, i installed those cyprpess-drivers. are they really better somehow? |
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| 15:11:19 | LinusN | people claim that they are |
| 15:11:37 | LinusN | watch out for the latest version though |
| 15:14:24 | gz | you don't happen to know the official link ? I've found 5.16 somewhere |
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| 15:16:18 | gz | argh i didnt look closely enough i found it |
| 15:16:38 | LinusN | i gotta go, cu around |
| 15:16:50 | gz | cu! |
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| 17:55:35 | gz | ok got it |
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| 21:55:33 | gz | Faq->Q22: HD Protection. The Cypress USB-Driver offers a hd-password option. Maybe that's the cause for most people? |
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| 22:01:26 | Zagor | !? it does? |
| 22:01:58 | Zagor | any help/manual/description for it? |
| 22:03:56 | Zagor | elinenbe: are you here? i'm looking at your bug report in the mailing list jan 8. it says "locks on loading screen" after USB is connected. how do you get a loading screen while connected to usb??? |
| 22:09:36 | gz | zagor, err, dunno. haven't found one yet, haven't had a look on it. it's cypress usb driver 5.16 |
| 22:11:32 | gz | "Protection prevents anyone from reading or writing to your device until the drive is unprotected using the correct password" |
| 22:11:59 | gz | "PRotect IC25N015 ATDA04-0 USB Disk" |
| 22:13:09 | gz | and nope there's just some release-notes, no real docs |
| 22:13:17 | Zagor | ok, nothing special then. i doubt many people got in trouble because of that. |
| 22:13:44 | gz | just a thought. you'd to be quite stupid to forget about this, i've to admit |
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| 22:24:10 | elinenbe | Zagor: I am here. |
| 22:24:41 | elinenbe | Zagor: this is the way it works... I plug into the USB with my recorder off, and then I turn on the recorder... it locks up. |
| 22:24:58 | elinenbe | with the splash("loading") on the screen |
| 22:24:59 | Zagor | are you flashed? |
| 22:25:04 | elinenbe | Zagor: yes. |
| 22:25:12 | Zagor | resume: yes or ask? |
| 22:25:37 | elinenbe | resume to ON |
| 22:25:44 | elinenbe | I guess YES |
| 22:25:49 | Zagor | ok |
| 22:27:11 | Zagor | ah, goodie. happens here too. |
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| 22:30:56 | Quelsaruk | hej |
| 22:31:59 | Zagor | hi |
| 22:32:14 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 22:32:33 | Quelsaruk | i have a strange issue that no goat can solve... |
| 22:32:46 | Quelsaruk | i suppose it's just my old and damaged box, but... |
| 22:33:24 | Quelsaruk | 99% of times i run rockbox, i get the screen upside down (i use a version earlier to the upside down patch) |
| 22:34:03 | Quelsaruk | from this 99% times... 40% the display is also like a mirror |
| 22:34:12 | Zagor | wow |
| 22:34:36 | Quelsaruk | and some times, the display is moved to the right 20px or so |
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| 22:35:14 | Zagor | interesting... that means we can scroll the display horizontally! |
| 22:35:48 | Quelsaruk | i suppose so :) |
| 22:36:10 | Quelsaruk | if i boot with the F1 option (rockbox on flash) it always works perfectly |
| 22:36:34 | Quelsaruk | and the charging screen (pluging the charger with the box turned off) is also ok |
| 22:36:48 | Quelsaruk | i think a debugger god is angry with me |
| 22:36:50 | Quelsaruk | :P |
| 22:37:42 | Quelsaruk | any idea on why does this happen? |
| 22:37:55 | Zagor | no clue |
| 22:38:38 | Quelsaruk | great :) |
| 22:39:18 | Quelsaruk | if you where a bit more near i'll send you the box and investigate all my X-files |
| 22:41:12 | Zagor | :) |
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| 22:53:35 | elinenbe | Quelsaruk: I used to get this all the time with my old recorder |
| 22:53:35 | elinenbe | Quelsaruk: but I no longer get this behavior |
| 22:53:35 | elinenbe | my display was upside down and mirrored |
| 22:56:42 | Quelsaruk | umm |
| 22:56:45 | Quelsaruk | do you know why? |
| 22:56:50 | Quelsaruk | how did you repair it? |
| 22:56:55 | Quelsaruk | how big was the hammer? |
| 22:56:58 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 22:57:21 | elinenbe | my archos fell out my window so I got a new one, and that one does not do it! |
| 22:58:03 | Quelsaruk | that's a big hammer |
| 22:58:12 | Quelsaruk | 3er floor? 4th? |
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| 22:59:21 | Quelsaruk | [21:58:08] <Quelsaruk> that's a big hammer |
| 22:59:21 | Quelsaruk | [21:58:17] <Quelsaruk> 3er floor? 4th? |
| 22:59:24 | Quelsaruk | :) |
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| 23:00:48 | Quelsaruk | anyone here uses cygwin? |
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| 23:04:20 | Guest57 | hi all |
| 23:05:05 | hardeep | Quelsaruk: I use cygwin |
| 23:05:19 | elinenbe | Quelsaruk: so do I |
| 23:05:25 | Guest57 | I ve some suggestion : put in the cvs tsome patch : like record in current dir, record from F2- menu (up key) |
| 23:06:22 | Guest57 | and I also remark that in the last daily build, with the new menu organization there is no more the sleep timer !! |
| 23:06:30 | Zagor | there is |
| 23:06:49 | Guest57 | where ? |
| 23:07:00 | Quelsaruk | great... hardeep, elinenbe: do you use vim? |
| 23:07:11 | Zagor | Guest57: system settings |
| 23:07:27 | Guest57 | ok I ll take a look |
| 23:07:49 | hardeep | Quelsaruk: every now and then |
| 23:07:59 | Quelsaruk | AFAIK to add lines and so in vim (at least in the version i used in my red hat box) i used the "insert" button.. but in cygwin.. |
| 23:08:57 | Quelsaruk | have i missed something? |
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| 23:09:48 | hardeep | Quelsaruk: I'm not sure about an "insert" button. You can use "o" to create a new line |
| 23:10:18 | Quelsaruk | i mean the "insert" key in the keyboard |
| 23:10:21 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 23:10:37 | Quelsaruk | for example, you want to write some code in a line.. |
| 23:11:56 | hardeep | Quelsaruk: Ah, someone probably has setup alternate key bindings for vim on Red Hat. I'm only familiar with the standard keys: "o" to create a new line, "a" to add after cursor, "i" to insert at cursor, etc. |
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| 23:13:54 | Quelsaruk | umm |
| 23:13:57 | Quelsaruk | probably |
| 23:13:58 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 23:14:19 | Quelsaruk | you know.. i was getting crazy, a bit more :) |
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| 23:26:14 | Zagor | brb |
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| 23:39:35 | Zagor | elinenbe: fixed |
| 23:43:29 | elinenbe | Zagor: just saw that... great! |
| 23:47:17 | Guest57 | is there someone that |
| 23:47:59 | Guest57 | is there somebody who has any knoledge about bidi reordering for iso arabic text ? |
| 23:48:19 | Zagor | can't say I do |
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