#rockbox 2004-02-04

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#rockbox log for 2004-02-04

00:09:51		Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@ACA4A17F.ipt.aol.com)
00:10:40	midknight2k3	hi Bagder, Dogger, hardeep, track, [IDC]Dragon
00:10:58	[IDC]Dragon	hi
00:11:39	midknight2k3	oh idc
00:11:51	midknight2k3	the chip8 emulator is too fast since you added the beep
00:12:11	[IDC]Dragon	not since the beep
00:12:18	midknight2k3	oh?
00:12:23	[IDC]Dragon	maybe since I tuned the LCD again
00:12:32	midknight2k3	i never noticed it until you added the beep
00:12:33		Quit edx ()
00:12:38	track	hiya Midknight
00:12:41	midknight2k3	well it's WAY too fast
00:12:43	midknight2k3	hi track
00:12:45	track	sorry was playing train simulator
00:12:47	track	:)
00:12:49	midknight2k3	lol
00:12:57	midknight2k3	i thought it bored the bollocks out of you?
00:13:03	track	lol
00:13:14	track	its entertaining pulling wild 360 derailments
00:13:23	midknight2k3	LOL
00:13:26	midknight2k3	sounds fun
00:13:44	track	well its better than sticking to a 25kmh speed limit in a 10 mile long tunnel
00:13:52	midknight2k3	haha
00:13:58	track	lol
00:14:15	track	the best crash was smashing into a train shed at 125mph and watching the train concertina
00:14:54	midknight2k3	HAHA
00:14:56	midknight2k3	i want that
00:15:00	track	lol midknight I can do a vid of a crash and send it to u
00:15:06	midknight2k3	yeah!
00:15:10	midknight2k3	i want to see
00:15:23	track	its gonna take a bit of time though
00:15:39	track	ill make a video when I have more spare time
00:15:40	midknight2k3	ok
00:16:02	track	i have a slight issue with the charging screen on the flashed box
00:16:35	track	What do the animated dots mean on the large battery icon?
00:16:53	midknight2k3	just an animation
00:16:54	midknight2k3	for looks
00:17:02	midknight2k3	"current flowing through" is my best guess
00:17:08	midknight2k3	ask IDC
00:17:15	midknight2k3	i should make a new charging screen
00:17:24	midknight2k3	OOH I HAVE A GOOD IDEA
00:17:37	track	The large battery icon would look better if it slowly filled up to show charging progress
00:17:39	track	whats that mid?
00:18:47	midknight2k3	well i was going to ask if we can have multiple statements in for loops
00:18:53	track	what do you mean?
00:18:53	midknight2k3	but i'll just use a while loop instead
00:19:03	midknight2k3	C
00:19:22	midknight2k3	like, for(bla=bla && bla2=bla; etc; etc)
00:19:30	track	oh
00:19:45	midknight2k3	i think we can only have one bla, but it doesn't matter
00:20:03	midknight2k3	while loops are better D:
00:20:06	midknight2k3	:D*
00:20:27	track	lol
00:20:43	track	Im getting the hang of flashing now
00:20:50	track	just download the ucl file and click on that to flash
00:21:13	midknight2k3	yeah
00:21:27	midknight2k3	track go to AOL messenger
00:21:38	track	i didn't know u use AOL mid
00:21:43	midknight2k3	i use AIM
00:21:53	track	I don't have AOL messenger installed :-(
00:21:55	track	never use it
00:21:59	midknight2k3	its built into aol
00:22:03	track	all i have is Yahoo messenger
00:22:14	midknight2k3	aww
00:22:18	midknight2k3	ok lets try dcc
00:22:22	midknight2k3	still on leafchat?
00:22:24	track	I prefer chatting here
00:22:28	track	yes im using leafchat now
00:23:16	track	AOL is still banned on jirc
00:23:17	track	:(
00:23:30	midknight2k3	dont use jirc
00:23:31	midknight2k3	it sucks
00:23:34	midknight2k3	just use leafchat
00:23:39	track	yea
00:23:44		Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se")
00:23:58	track	Mid the large battery icon on the charging screen would look much better if it filled to show charging progress
00:24:14	midknight2k3	track, yes i think that will be one thing i will do
00:24:24	midknight2k3	i have a new project: CHARGING SCREEN REMAKE
00:24:28	track	cool
00:25:01	midknight2k3	you can try it when i finish
00:25:05	track	thanks
00:25:06	track	;-)
00:25:14	track	I don't like the animated dots
00:25:31	midknight2k3	why not
00:25:35	track	Also how do you turn the backlight off when charging?
00:25:44	midknight2k3	its always off i thought
00:25:59	midknight2k3	boy my home\rockbox\ folder is a mess
00:26:00	track	on my box its always on when charging
00:26:05	midknight2k3	humm
00:26:06	midknight2k3	no idea
00:26:09	midknight2k3	OHH
00:26:14	midknight2k3	try "backlight on when plugged"?
00:26:24	track	I'll try that
00:26:30	midknight2k3	try "ofF"
00:26:31	midknight2k3	lol
00:26:39	midknight2k3	its under general settings->display
00:26:40	track	midknight when my box is switched off when charging the backlight is on
00:27:07	midknight2k3	yes, choose "backlight on when charging: no"
00:27:11	midknight2k3	er "pluggeD"
00:27:15	midknight2k3	"plugged"**
00:27:59	track	let me check
00:28:03	[IDC]Dragon	no, that makes no difference
00:28:14	midknight2k3	aww
00:28:14	[IDC]Dragon	the settings are not loaded yet
00:28:26	[IDC]Dragon	when the charging screen is active
00:28:26	midknight2k3	ok well i will remake it anywayw
00:28:29	midknight2k3	wnyways*
00:28:32	midknight2k3	anyways**
00:28:53	track	Baclight On When Plugged - Off
00:28:56	track	thats what its set on now
00:29:32	midknight2k3	it wont help he says
00:30:32	track	Not that it really matters since I prefer charging the box when its turned on
00:34:31	midknight2k3	correct
00:35:27	track	yea
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00:54:15	midknight2k3	crap
00:54:34	midknight2k3	anybody know where the code was for if you hold off while plugged it says "Battery: Charging"?
00:54:36	track	HAHAHA
00:54:44	midknight2k3	?
00:55:00	track	sorry i was lauging at the way you said "crap"
00:56:10	midknight2k3	lol
00:56:26	track	sdd
00:56:27	track	ddf
00:56:38	track	"Thanks a lot"
00:57:01	midknight2k3	lol
00:57:56	track	:D
00:59:28	track	anyway night all
00:59:29	track	:)
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01:05:53		Join adi\|home [0] (~adi\|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-2.nyc.ny.metconnect.net)
01:06:02	midknight2k3	hi adi
01:16:41	midknight2k3	YAY I FOUND IT
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01:22:10	john-	hello
01:22:11	midknight2k3	john- woo
01:24:29	john-	I feel silly saying this, but seeing how you guys look like experts on the Archos players... Just recently my friend was charging up his Jukebox Recorder 20, and somehow a pillow got thrown over it - Four days later he discovered the melted remains of the MP3 player case and a glowing screen as it did not turn off after it had peaked the charge
01:24:56	midknight2k3	whh
01:25:05	john-	well, anyway, he gave me the player and just bought a new one, yet I'd like to try and get his old one to work
01:25:14	midknight2k3	melted?
01:25:44	john-	yeah, the cover got all distorted and the buttons melted together so he couldn't turn it off
01:26:46	midknight2k3	he left a pillow over it and it charging for four days?
01:26:57	midknight2k3	even if it didnt melt that would wreck the batteries
01:27:03	midknight2k3	NOT a good idea
01:27:11	john-	yeah, I guess he didn't realize it was there
01:27:28	midknight2k3	uhh
01:28:00	john-	or he just wanted an excuse for a new one, heh
01:28:00	midknight2k3	ok what was it you wanted? just to tell us?
01:28:24	john-	if there's any way I can get it working again
01:28:56	midknight2k3	er
01:29:03	midknight2k3	well what exactly is wrong with it?
01:29:27	john-	well, so far I know it won't turn on with the batteries
01:29:32	john-	I'm guessing those are toast
01:29:50	midknight2k3	try plugging it in
01:30:25	john-	he hasn't given me the cords for it yet, but I'll be sure to once I do
01:30:37	midknight2k3	well you cant really operate it without power
01:30:52	john-	also, there's a white residue on certain parts of the circuit board
01:31:04	john-	but it doesn't look like any of the batteries leaked
01:32:03	john-	is that just part of the board?
01:36:40	midknight2k3	uh
01:36:45	midknight2k3	no, that'd be battery acid
01:36:52	midknight2k3	it's not normal anyways\
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01:41:00	john-	maybe I could just buy replacement batteries and make a new case for it or something :P
01:41:08	midknight2k3	yeah lol
01:41:08	midknight2k3	brb
01:42:27	john-	I wanted the model my friend had really badly, and then I finally went to Best Buy and they replaced it with the FM model the week before, which cost a lot more
01:43:07	john-	I ended up getting a Nomad Jukebox 2 which has very limited support in Linux, bleh
01:46:55	midknight2k3	bc k
01:47:14	midknight2k3	EEW
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01:48:19	john-	haha
01:48:29	midknight2k3	?
01:48:51	john-	some nonstandard filesystem on it that you need special programs to access it with
01:49:06	midknight2k3	yes, it sucks
01:49:48	john-	and the guy at the store was trying to sell me an iPod or something
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01:52:08	john-	so when/if I get this fixed; does Rockbox have OGG support? I couldn't tell from the Features list
01:52:28	midknight2k3	heh, no
01:52:53	john-	ah, oh well
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01:57:33	john-	hmm, think I can try normal AAs to try and get it to turn on?
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02:02:05	john-	wow, it works!
02:02:09	midknight2k3	yay
02:02:12	midknight2k3	dont plug in the charger
02:02:28	john-	taking a long time to boot though
02:03:21	john-	little "clicking" sound coming from the drive every now and then
02:06:53	john-	must be going through its usual post-melt disk defragmentation
02:07:01	midknight2k3	lol
02:12:15	john-	after it finishes once, it will start up again faster, right?
02:17:15	midknight2k3	it doesnt defrag
02:22:31	john-	it got to 5th square, the screen lit up, it went really quick and finished
02:22:39	john-	and then said "Error: Can't read from hard disk"
02:25:11	midknight2k3	hrm
02:25:21	midknight2k3	dead disk probably
02:26:00	john-	ugh
02:26:44	john-	could I connect it to a computer and run some utilities?
02:27:55	midknight2k3	it may work
02:27:59	midknight2k3	you need an adapter
02:28:03	midknight2k3	actually theres a way to us
02:28:10	midknight2k3	er perhaps not
02:28:15	midknight2k3	any noises on boot?
02:28:25	john-	that clicking sound I was talking about
02:28:52	midknight2k3	can you record it or something? i can't really tell... is it like cliiicccck click, cliiiiiick click?
02:30:03	john-	well, it's pretty quiet and probably wouldn't be that noticable if the case were on, but it might just be it seeking
02:31:06	midknight2k3	if it seeked it would work
02:36:16	john-	what about the voltages?
02:36:38	john-	normal AAs run at 1.5V, while the Archos brand use 1.2V
02:36:44	midknight2k3	AA = more power than needed
02:37:51	john-	I can try recording the sound
02:45:37	john-	well, apparently I can't find my microphone
02:45:56	midknight2k3	aww
02:47:08	john-	but when I hold the jukebox up to my ear, there's a slight buzzing sound, as when I hear the other sound, it's more like a sound you get when winding film
02:47:17	john-	like a click click click chunk
02:47:35	midknight2k3	sounds okay but hard to express in text lol
02:47:47	john-	yeah, seriously
02:48:13	midknight2k3	sorry, maybe someone else can help, but to me it sounds pretty dead
02:48:26	john-	bleh :(
02:50:09	john-	http://evermore.ath.cx/archos/DSC00072.JPG
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02:51:06	*	midk\|bbs is away: back in a few mins
02:51:24	midk\|bbs	i'll be back soon ok
02:52:02	john-	alright
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03:23:21	midk\|bbs	grrp
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03:24:36	midknight2k3	yeah that archos does look a bit traumatized
03:24:37	midknight2k3	:)
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03:24:49	john-	heheheh
03:26:41	midknight2k3	screen looks darker on top or is it an illusion
03:26:56	john-	I think it's just from the flash
03:27:11	midknight2k3	ok yeah looks a bit darker thanit should
03:49:25	john-	well, I need to get some sleep
03:49:30	john-	I'll keep working on it
03:49:36	midknight2k3	ok
03:49:38	john-	thanks for all the help
03:49:38	midknight2k3	bye
03:49:40	midknight2k3	np
03:49:48	john-	good night
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04:10:50	midknight2k3	hi scott
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04:18:33	scott666	yo
04:20:56	midknight2k3	yee
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06:38:21	midknight2k3	bye all
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10:49:47	kurzhaarrocker	Linus: just for my curiousity: Did your record-to-current-dir enhancement base on the patch on the patchtracker?
10:51:41	LinusN	yeah, i forgot to close it, will do in a sec
10:56:40	dwihno	way!
10:56:48	LinusN	yo dwihno!
10:56:56	dwihno	Hej hej! \o/
10:57:30	dwihno	I forgot how hell'ish it was to setup PfaEdit on Windows.
10:58:20	LinusN	never tried
10:58:31	dwihno	don't go there man :)
10:58:36	dwihno	it's all nasty
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11:01:38	LinusN	i'll remember that :_)
11:13:03	kurzhaarrocker	Why does bagder want to move the mailing lists?
11:13:48	LinusN	not sure, but it might be a step in our long-term plan to ditch sourceforge
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11:37:03	c0utta	hall�! �r det n�gon d�r?
11:37:30	*	kurzhaarrocker wants a chinese font
11:38:05	c0utta	nah, just checking my english/swedish translator
11:38:15	c0utta	i thought i'd get linus's attention
11:38:57	LinusN	excellent swedish
11:39:08	c0utta	http://lexikon.nada.kth.se/cgi-bin/swe-eng
11:40:02	c0utta	guys, i get an error on the following when i compile for an ajz
11:40:05	c0utta	typedef bool (*PFB)();
11:40:12	c0utta	works ok in the sim though
11:40:30	c0utta	it's actually a warning, not an error
11:40:55	LinusN	you need a full prototype
11:41:08	LinusN	typedef bool (*PFB)(void)
11:42:09	kurzhaarrocker	I thought typedefs are a nono in rockbox
11:42:44	LinusN	sometimes it helps for function pointers
11:43:26	LinusN	the code police will raid his patch tracker when he submits it :-)
11:43:36	kurzhaarrocker	:)
11:44:32	kurzhaarrocker	Apropos code police: What do you all think about that idea using the red led as a recording indicator?
11:45:19	LinusN	i'm not sure yet
11:45:38	LinusN	i like the idea of a clear indicator
11:46:11	kurzhaarrocker	I'd prefer too not to mix recording _and_ hd activity.
11:46:12	LinusN	so i'm trying to get used to the idea
11:48:05	c0utta	did either of you get a chance to look at my "proof of concept" for the f2 menu ?
11:48:22	kurzhaarrocker	I haven't yet
11:48:57	c0utta	recording is one of the actions that you can perform - especially at your request
11:48:58	LinusN	nope, been offline the last week (moving to another appartment)
11:49:47	c0utta	it has very quiet in here over the last week..
11:50:03	kurzhaarrocker	c0utta: I admit that I feel a bit ashamed ...
11:50:28	*	kurzhaarrocker sniffes LinusN and suspects a smell of fresh paint
11:51:57	c0utta	don't feel ashamed. i only converted over those actions that i am interested in using
11:52:09	c0utta	plus some others mentioned by yourself & [idc]dragon
11:54:41	c0utta	you can now put any plugin or cfg into the f2 menu
11:56:00	kurzhaarrocker	:)
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20:16:26	WiZeR	anyone awake?
20:17:20	WiZeR	im desperate for some help if anyone wouldnt mind
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21:16:40	gringo_	hey - does anyone know if the jukebox recorder charges with just the usb cable? Or does it only charge with the dc jack.
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23:15:49	uski	anyone can give me an url to d/l the video plugin joerg has made ?
23:15:49	uski	i can't find it
23:16:17	_aLF	it is in the daily build
23:16:30	_aLF	just install a daily build
23:16:36	uski	hmm ok
23:19:37	uski	and is there a place where i can get a sample rvf file ?
23:19:51	uski	i don't have windows here to run joerg's rvf file converter
23:20:28	_aLF	http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/rvf.html
23:20:41	_aLF	describe how to create rvf from avi
23:20:43	uski	hmm. thx. :]
23:21:05	_aLF	else here : http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/doom.zip
23:21:51	uski	great :)
23:22:19	uski	"This Process Is For Windows Users Only" duh
23:22:32	uski	ishould try to make a transcode plugin to handle rvf files...
23:22:39	uski	(transcode is a video file manipulation program)
23:25:25	_aLF	(I know)
23:26:15	uski	(ok ;))
23:26:29	uski	hmmm, this video plugin works well !
23:26:35	uski	i should have triedi t before
23:26:42	uski	duh, i do it again:
23:26:46	uski	i should have tried it before
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23:27:28	uski	gtg
23:27:39	uski	thanks _aLF :)
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23:54:14	john-	if a hard drive in an Archos does not read correctly and takes a long time to boot and finally gives an error, is the drive completely screwed, or can some scan utility be used or reformat it?
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