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#rockbox log for 2004-02-04

00:09:51 Join midknight2k3 [0] (
00:10:40midknight2k3hi Bagder, Dogger, hardeep, track, [IDC]Dragon
00:11:39midknight2k3oh idc
00:11:51midknight2k3the chip8 emulator is too fast since you added the beep
00:12:11[IDC]Dragonnot since the beep
00:12:23[IDC]Dragonmaybe since I tuned the LCD again
00:12:32midknight2k3i never noticed it until you added the beep
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00:12:38trackhiya Midknight
00:12:41midknight2k3well it's WAY too fast
00:12:43midknight2k3hi track
00:12:45tracksorry was playing train simulator
00:12:57midknight2k3i thought it bored the bollocks out of you?
00:13:14trackits entertaining pulling wild 360 derailments
00:13:26midknight2k3sounds fun
00:13:44trackwell its better than sticking to a 25kmh speed limit in a 10 mile long tunnel
00:14:15trackthe best crash was smashing into a train shed at 125mph and watching the train concertina
00:14:56midknight2k3i want that
00:15:00tracklol midknight I can do a vid of a crash and send it to u
00:15:10midknight2k3i want to see
00:15:23trackits gonna take a bit of time though
00:15:39trackill make a video when I have more spare time
00:16:02tracki have a slight issue with the charging screen on the flashed box
00:16:35trackWhat do the animated dots mean on the large battery icon?
00:16:53midknight2k3just an animation
00:16:54midknight2k3for looks
00:17:02midknight2k3"current flowing through" is my best guess
00:17:08midknight2k3ask IDC
00:17:15midknight2k3i should make a new charging screen
00:17:24midknight2k3OOH I HAVE A GOOD IDEA
00:17:37trackThe large battery icon would look better if it slowly filled up to show charging progress
00:17:39trackwhats that mid?
00:18:47midknight2k3well i was going to ask if we can have multiple statements in for loops
00:18:53trackwhat do you mean?
00:18:53midknight2k3but i'll just use a while loop instead
00:19:22midknight2k3like, for(bla=bla && bla2=bla; etc; etc)
00:19:45midknight2k3i think we can only have one bla, but it doesn't matter
00:20:03midknight2k3while loops are better D:
00:20:43trackIm getting the hang of flashing now
00:20:50trackjust download the ucl file and click on that to flash
00:21:27midknight2k3track go to AOL messenger
00:21:38tracki didn't know u use AOL mid
00:21:43midknight2k3i use AIM
00:21:53trackI don't have AOL messenger installed :-(
00:21:55tracknever use it
00:21:59midknight2k3its built into aol
00:22:03trackall i have is Yahoo messenger
00:22:18midknight2k3ok lets try dcc
00:22:22midknight2k3still on leafchat?
00:22:24trackI prefer chatting here
00:22:28trackyes im using leafchat now
00:23:16trackAOL is still banned on jirc
00:23:30midknight2k3dont use jirc
00:23:31midknight2k3it sucks
00:23:34midknight2k3just use leafchat
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00:23:58trackMid the large battery icon on the charging screen would look much better if it filled to show charging progress
00:24:14midknight2k3track, yes i think that will be one thing i will do
00:24:24midknight2k3i have a new project: CHARGING SCREEN REMAKE
00:25:01midknight2k3you can try it when i finish
00:25:14trackI don't like the animated dots
00:25:31midknight2k3why not
00:25:35trackAlso how do you turn the backlight off when charging?
00:25:44midknight2k3its always off i thought
00:25:59midknight2k3boy my home\rockbox\ folder is a mess
00:26:00trackon my box its always on when charging
00:26:06midknight2k3no idea
00:26:14midknight2k3try "backlight on when plugged"?
00:26:24trackI'll try that
00:26:30midknight2k3try "ofF"
00:26:39midknight2k3its under general settings->display
00:26:40trackmidknight when my box is switched off when charging the backlight is on
00:27:07midknight2k3yes, choose "backlight on when charging: no"
00:27:11midknight2k3er "pluggeD"
00:27:59tracklet me check
00:28:03[IDC]Dragonno, that makes no difference
00:28:14[IDC]Dragonthe settings are not loaded yet
00:28:26[IDC]Dragonwhen the charging screen is active
00:28:26midknight2k3ok well i will remake it anywayw
00:28:53trackBaclight On When Plugged - Off
00:28:56trackthats what its set on now
00:29:32midknight2k3it wont help he says
00:30:32trackNot that it really matters since I prefer charging the box when its turned on
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00:54:34midknight2k3anybody know where the code was for if you hold off while plugged it says "Battery: Charging"?
00:55:00tracksorry i was lauging at the way you said "crap"
00:56:38track"Thanks a lot"
00:59:28trackanyway night all
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01:06:02midknight2k3hi adi
01:16:41midknight2k3YAY I FOUND IT
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01:22:11midknight2k3john- woo
01:24:29john-I feel silly saying this, but seeing how you guys look like experts on the Archos players... Just recently my friend was charging up his Jukebox Recorder 20, and somehow a pillow got thrown over it - Four days later he discovered the melted remains of the MP3 player case and a glowing screen as it did not turn off after it had peaked the charge
01:25:05john-well, anyway, he gave me the player and just bought a new one, yet I'd like to try and get his old one to work
01:25:44john-yeah, the cover got all distorted and the buttons melted together so he couldn't turn it off
01:26:46midknight2k3he left a pillow over it and it charging for four days?
01:26:57midknight2k3even if it didnt melt that would wreck the batteries
01:27:03midknight2k3NOT a good idea
01:27:11john-yeah, I guess he didn't realize it was there
01:28:00john-or he just wanted an excuse for a new one, heh
01:28:00midknight2k3ok what was it you wanted? just to tell us?
01:28:24john-if there's any way I can get it working again
01:29:03midknight2k3well what exactly is wrong with it?
01:29:27john-well, so far I know it won't turn on with the batteries
01:29:32john-I'm guessing those are toast
01:29:50midknight2k3try plugging it in
01:30:25john-he hasn't given me the cords for it yet, but I'll be sure to once I do
01:30:37midknight2k3well you cant really operate it without power
01:30:52john-also, there's a white residue on certain parts of the circuit board
01:31:04john-but it doesn't look like any of the batteries leaked
01:32:03john-is that just part of the board?
01:36:45midknight2k3no, that'd be battery acid
01:36:52midknight2k3it's not normal anyways\
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01:41:00john-maybe I could just buy replacement batteries and make a new case for it or something :P
01:41:08midknight2k3yeah lol
01:42:27john-I wanted the model my friend had really badly, and then I finally went to Best Buy and they replaced it with the FM model the week before, which cost a lot more
01:43:07john-I ended up getting a Nomad Jukebox 2 which has very limited support in Linux, bleh
01:46:55midknight2k3bc k
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01:48:51john-some nonstandard filesystem on it that you need special programs to access it with
01:49:06midknight2k3yes, it sucks
01:49:48john-and the guy at the store was trying to sell me an iPod or something
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01:52:08john-so when/if I get this fixed; does Rockbox have OGG support? I couldn't tell from the Features list
01:52:28midknight2k3heh, no
01:52:53john-ah, oh well
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01:57:33john-hmm, think I can try normal AAs to try and get it to turn on?
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02:02:05john-wow, it works!
02:02:12midknight2k3dont plug in the charger
02:02:28john-taking a long time to boot though
02:03:21john-little "clicking" sound coming from the drive every now and then
02:06:53john-must be going through its usual post-melt disk defragmentation
02:12:15john-after it finishes once, it will start up again faster, right?
02:17:15midknight2k3it doesnt defrag
02:22:31john-it got to 5th square, the screen lit up, it went really quick and finished
02:22:39john-and then said "Error: Can't read from hard disk"
02:25:21midknight2k3dead disk probably
02:26:44john-could I connect it to a computer and run some utilities?
02:27:55midknight2k3it may work
02:27:59midknight2k3you need an adapter
02:28:03midknight2k3actually theres a way to us
02:28:10midknight2k3er perhaps not
02:28:15midknight2k3any noises on boot?
02:28:25john-that clicking sound I was talking about
02:28:52midknight2k3can you record it or something? i can't really tell... is it like cliiicccck click, cliiiiiick click?
02:30:03john-well, it's pretty quiet and probably wouldn't be that noticable if the case were on, but it might just be it seeking
02:31:06midknight2k3if it seeked it would work
02:36:16john-what about the voltages?
02:36:38john-normal AAs run at 1.5V, while the Archos brand use 1.2V
02:36:44midknight2k3AA = more power than needed
02:37:51john-I can try recording the sound
02:45:37john-well, apparently I can't find my microphone
02:47:08john-but when I hold the jukebox up to my ear, there's a slight buzzing sound, as when I hear the other sound, it's more like a sound you get when winding film
02:47:17john-like a click click click chunk
02:47:35midknight2k3sounds okay but hard to express in text lol
02:47:47john-yeah, seriously
02:48:13midknight2k3sorry, maybe someone else can help, but to me it sounds pretty dead
02:48:26john-bleh :(
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02:51:06*midk|bbs is away: back in a few mins
02:51:24midk|bbsi'll be back soon ok
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03:24:36midknight2k3yeah that archos does look a bit traumatized
03:24:40*midknight2k3 is back (gone 00:33:31)
03:26:41midknight2k3screen looks darker on top or is it an illusion
03:26:56john-I think it's just from the flash
03:27:11midknight2k3ok yeah looks a bit darker thanit should
03:49:25john-well, I need to get some sleep
03:49:30john-I'll keep working on it
03:49:38john-thanks for all the help
03:49:48john-good night
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04:10:50midknight2k3hi scott
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06:38:21midknight2k3bye all
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10:49:47kurzhaarrockerLinus: just for my curiousity: Did your record-to-current-dir enhancement base on the patch on the patchtracker?
10:51:41LinusNyeah, i forgot to close it, will do in a sec
10:56:48LinusNyo dwihno!
10:56:56dwihnoHej hej! \o/
10:57:30dwihnoI forgot how hell'ish it was to setup PfaEdit on Windows.
10:58:20LinusNnever tried
10:58:31dwihnodon't go there man :)
10:58:36dwihnoit's all nasty
11:01:38LinusNi'll remember that :_)
11:13:03kurzhaarrocker Why does bagder want to move the mailing lists?
11:13:48LinusNnot sure, but it might be a step in our long-term plan to ditch sourceforge
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11:37:03c0uttahallå! är det någon där?
11:37:30*kurzhaarrocker wants a chinese font
11:38:05c0uttanah, just checking my english/swedish translator
11:38:15c0uttai thought i'd get linus's attention
11:38:57LinusNexcellent swedish
11:40:02c0uttaguys, i get an error on the following when i compile for an ajz
11:40:05c0uttatypedef bool (*PFB)();
11:40:12c0uttaworks ok in the sim though
11:40:30c0uttait's actually a warning, not an error
11:40:55LinusNyou need a full prototype
11:41:08LinusNtypedef bool (*PFB)(void)
11:42:09kurzhaarrockerI thought typedefs are a nono in rockbox
11:42:44LinusNsometimes it helps for function pointers
11:43:26LinusNthe code police will raid his patch tracker when he submits it :-)
11:44:32kurzhaarrockerApropos code police: What do you all think about that idea using the red led as a recording indicator?
11:45:19LinusNi'm not sure yet
11:45:38LinusNi like the idea of a clear indicator
11:46:11kurzhaarrockerI'd prefer too not to mix recording _and_ hd activity.
11:46:12LinusNso i'm trying to get used to the idea
11:48:05c0uttadid either of you get a chance to look at my "proof of concept" for the f2 menu ?
11:48:22kurzhaarrockerI haven't yet
11:48:57c0uttarecording is one of the actions that you can perform - especially at your request
11:48:58LinusNnope, been offline the last week (moving to another appartment)
11:49:47c0uttait has very quiet in here over the last week..
11:50:03kurzhaarrockerc0utta: I admit that I feel a bit ashamed ...
11:50:28*kurzhaarrocker sniffes LinusN and suspects a smell of fresh paint
11:51:57c0uttadon't feel ashamed. i only converted over those actions that i am interested in using
11:52:09c0uttaplus some others mentioned by yourself & [idc]dragon
11:54:41c0uttayou can now put any plugin or cfg into the f2 menu
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20:16:23WiZeRhi guys
20:16:26WiZeRanyone awake?
20:17:20WiZeRim desperate for some help if anyone wouldnt mind
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21:16:40gringo_hey - does anyone know if the jukebox recorder charges with just the usb cable? Or does it only charge with the dc jack.
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21:41:30john-so, anyone around?
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23:15:49uskianyone can give me an url to d/l the video plugin joerg has made ?
23:15:49uskii can't find it
23:16:17_aLFit is in the daily build
23:16:30_aLFjust install a daily build
23:16:36uskihmm ok
23:19:37uskiand is there a place where i can get a sample rvf file ?
23:19:51uskii don't have windows here to run joerg's rvf file converter
23:20:41_aLFdescribe how to create rvf from avi
23:20:43uskihmm. thx. :]
23:21:05_aLFelse here :
23:21:51uskigreat :)
23:22:19uski"This Process Is For Windows Users Only" duh
23:22:32uskiishould try to make a transcode plugin to handle rvf files...
23:22:39uski(transcode is a video file manipulation program)
23:25:25_aLF(I know)
23:26:15uski(ok ;))
23:26:29uskihmmm, this video plugin works well !
23:26:35uskii should have triedi t before
23:26:42uskiduh, i do it again:
23:26:46uskii should have tried it before
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23:27:39uskithanks _aLF :)
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23:54:14john-if a hard drive in an Archos does not read correctly and takes a long time to boot and finally gives an error, is the drive completely screwed, or can some scan utility be used or reformat it?
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