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| 00:24:21 | midknight2k3 | whee hi |
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| 01:05:21 | midknight2k3 | linus hi |
| 01:05:25 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 01:05:25 | LinusN | yo |
| 01:05:28 | midknight2k3 | its linus |
| 01:05:28 | midknight2k3 | rejoice |
| 01:05:41 | midknight2k3 | i'm just starting on sound preset loading |
| 01:05:50 | midknight2k3 | input? |
| 01:06:39 | LinusN | sound preset loading? |
| 01:07:00 | midknight2k3 | like cfg loading but for sound settings |
| 01:07:38 | LinusN | why separate sound settings? |
| 01:08:06 | midknight2k3 | because CFG loading is too multipurpose i think |
| 01:08:25 | midknight2k3 | for example if you want a car preset and a home preset you may get contrast changed in the mix or something you don't want changed |
| 01:08:26 | LinusN | would be unnecessary duplication of code |
| 01:08:50 | LinusN | then create a .cfg file with only the sound settings in it |
| 01:09:07 | midknight2k3 | yes, but what if you want to on the go |
| 01:09:14 | midknight2k3 | most people wouldn't want to go home and manually do it |
| 01:09:23 | LinusN | i see your point |
| 01:09:35 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 01:09:42 | LinusN | so a "save sound settings as .cfg file" feature? |
| 01:10:38 | midknight2k3 | well i was just going to copy and modify a small bit of the current CFG code, tell it to save to .rockbox/presets as filename.rsp and add a menu into sound settings |
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| 01:16:04 | midknight2k3 | sounds ok? |
| 01:17:50 | LinusN | no |
| 01:18:36 | LinusN | i don't see the point of creating a new file type |
| 01:18:55 | LinusN | why not just save a .cfg file with only the sound setting related stuff |
| 01:18:56 | LinusN | ? |
| 01:19:22 | midknight2k3 | ohh |
| 01:19:24 | midknight2k3 | well |
| 01:19:51 | midknight2k3 | so they can be in /.rockbox/presets and you can browse them by menu and load them with a browsing feature? |
| 01:20:57 | midknight2k3 | if they don't have a new extension people might confuse them with CFG files, and also they won't have their own icon so people can't identify them easier |
| 01:22:22 | LinusN | the whole idea of .cfg files is to be able to do exactly this |
| 01:22:38 | midknight2k3 | exactly what? |
| 01:22:51 | LinusN | it's just that we also added an option to save the entire config as a .cfg file, for lazy people |
| 01:22:55 | LinusN | for sound settings |
| 01:23:39 | LinusN | .cfg files were invented to have files with different sound settings |
| 01:23:51 | LinusN | and lots of people use them for that |
| 01:24:45 | LinusN | it's just that they either create them by hand, or save the .cfg file with rockbox and later on remove the unneeded settings |
| 01:25:12 | midknight2k3 | yes, but the fact that they are indistinguishable from other CFG files is rather confusing (they'd have to use the same extension and icon)? |
| 01:25:24 | LinusN | what other .cfg files? |
| 01:26:06 | LinusN | most people would probably like a "home", "travel" and a "car" file, for example |
| 01:26:54 | LinusN | those files would probably contain mostly sound settings, but also backlight, spindown and a few other things |
| 01:27:14 | LinusN | having only sound settings would cripple the function imho |
| 01:27:47 | midknight2k3 | hrm |
| 01:27:49 | midknight2k3 | well |
| 01:28:33 | midknight2k3 | in that case you'd use CFG files. but if you're at home you may want it all the same, just with modified sound settings. so that you can have a "party" preset and a "rock" preset and a "clear" preset etc |
| 01:30:25 | midknight2k3 | don't get me wrong, cfg files will still exist! presets would just exist to modify only the sound settings without connecting to a PC |
| 01:30:55 | LinusN | so why not only do a "save sound settings as .cfg file" option? |
| 01:31:29 | midknight2k3 | well, it'd be relatively simpyl to just remake a small portion of the code so we can have a different extension+icon+ save dir |
| 01:31:36 | midknight2k3 | simple* |
| 01:31:43 | LinusN | yes, but why? |
| 01:31:56 | midknight2k3 | so we don't get them confused with "real" cfg files |
| 01:32:19 | LinusN | i'd say that it would be confusing for the user to have the same functionality with two file types |
| 01:32:42 | LinusN | i dont see why the presets can't be "real" .cfg files |
| 01:33:25 | midknight2k3 | perhaps you don't get what i mean by "Real" cfg files. By "real" i mean loading other settings as well |
| 01:34:03 | LinusN | but a .cfg file doesn't have to load other settings, it only loads the settings that are present in the file |
| 01:34:49 | midknight2k3 | right. but like i was saying, it may also be handy to have that different extension and icon for simpler loading |
| 01:35:03 | LinusN | simpler, how? |
| 01:35:20 | LinusN | pressing Play is equally simple regardless of the file type |
| 01:35:42 | midknight2k3 | so you can say, oh, party.rsp is my sound settings, and party.cfg is my settings (shuffle, repeat all, backlight on, etc) |
| 01:36:12 | LinusN | so, for a party, you'd have to load two files? |
| 01:36:21 | midknight2k3 | oh wait i just noticed that flaw :D |
| 01:36:38 | midknight2k3 | well in that case you could just have one CFG file |
| 01:36:48 | LinusN | and why not just "party settings.cfg" and "party sound.cfg"? |
| 01:36:56 | midknight2k3 | there you are |
| 01:37:12 | midknight2k3 | because party sound.cfg would need to be edited by a computer |
| 01:37:17 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 01:37:17 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 01:37:19 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 01:37:23 | midknight2k3 | i see your point |
| 01:37:36 | LinusN | not if you create a "save sound settings as .cfg" |
| 01:38:01 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 01:38:04 | midknight2k3 | but |
| 01:38:44 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
| 01:39:11 | midknight2k3 | AHA |
| 01:39:14 | midknight2k3 | oh wait |
| 01:39:19 | midknight2k3 | nm |
| 01:42:09 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 01:42:15 | midknight2k3 | well on another note |
| 01:42:23 | midknight2k3 | are we getting superbass soon? |
| 01:42:26 | midknight2k3 | well, mdb i mean |
| 01:42:41 | LinusN | you mean mdb fine tuning? |
| 01:43:23 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 01:43:44 | midknight2k3 | the sound it lets you have is wonderful but its not been officially implemented sadly |
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| 01:44:55 | LinusN | yeah, i should get to work on that one of these days... |
| 01:45:41 | midknight2k3 | hrm |
| 01:49:21 | midknight2k3 | well |
| 01:49:24 | midknight2k3 | heres the deal |
| 01:49:39 | midknight2k3 | i'll sketch up an icon for .rsp and if it comes out good we keep the extension :D |
| 01:49:59 | * | LinusN sighs |
| 01:50:07 | midknight2k3 | OH WAIT |
| 01:50:08 | midknight2k3 | I GOT IT |
| 01:50:14 | midknight2k3 | of course |
| 01:50:19 | midknight2k3 | why didnt i see |
| 01:50:32 | midknight2k3 | we just save it with a different extension, we don't need to duplicate the code |
| 01:50:39 | * | midknight2k3 does dilbert victory dance |
| 01:52:19 | LinusN | but i still don't get it. why a different extension? |
| 01:53:51 | midknight2k3 | so they are easily distinguishable from CFG files, right? if you think about it it'd be a lot easier to manage instead of mixing up CFG files... but yours is the final word. maybe sound as cfg would be good too |
| 01:54:37 | LinusN | i don't call it "mixing up". the .cfg files were invented for exactly this purpose |
| 01:55:32 | midknight2k3 | not exactly mixing up, but having the two together could confuse people |
| 01:56:17 | LinusN | "the two" |
| 01:56:31 | LinusN | a .cfg file can contain anything |
| 01:56:36 | midknight2k3 | thats it |
| 01:56:37 | midknight2k3 | but! |
| 01:56:43 | LinusN | the user decides what to put in them |
| 01:56:46 | midknight2k3 | you cant tell that anything from looking at .cfg can you? |
| 01:57:00 | midknight2k3 | .cfg says "ok im a cfg file, do i have sound settings inside or all settings?" |
| 01:57:11 | LinusN | no, but if you use a sensible file naming scheme you will be able to tell the difference |
| 01:57:31 | LinusN | or if you put them in different directories |
| 01:57:49 | midknight2k3 | i don't get your logic! :) but ok, i'll just use CFG files |
| 01:58:04 | midknight2k3 | but i'm allowed to put the option in "sound settings" right? |
| 01:58:33 | LinusN | the logic is that .cfg files are meant to contain settings, and it is up to the user to decide which settings to put in them |
| 01:58:57 | LinusN | like .bat files can contain any DOS command |
| 01:59:25 | midknight2k3 | and the other logic is that no matter what you name them, seperate extensions will always tell you whether you have sound or global settings |
| 01:59:49 | LinusN | but will you create new file types for recording settings too? |
| 01:59:59 | LinusN | or playlist settings? |
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| 02:00:03 | LinusN | or...? |
| 02:00:09 | midknight2k3 | no |
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| 02:00:13 | midknight2k3 | they all go under "settings" |
| 02:00:25 | midknight2k3 | but those affect the core settings, not the actual sound |
| 02:01:03 | midknight2k3 | like, we could label the sound settings as "equalizer" and argue all over again |
| 02:01:09 | midknight2k3 | but that doesnt change their purpose |
| 02:01:18 | LinusN | my point is that i don't see the need for separate file types for sound settings |
| 02:01:47 | LinusN | but i can see the use for a "save sound settings" option |
| 02:02:04 | midknight2k3 | it reduces the need to induce clever file naming schemes using a nifty on screen keyboard |
| 02:04:10 | midknight2k3 | i just don't see a particular downside |
| 02:04:15 | LinusN | i'd say that it adds confusion for the user |
| 02:04:34 | LinusN | two file types for nearly the same thing |
| 02:04:37 | midknight2k3 | sound settings files and cfg files? i'd say that wps files are a lot more confusing |
| 02:04:48 | LinusN | especially when .cfg files contain sound settings too |
| 02:05:03 | midknight2k3 | we should delete that functionality |
| 02:05:08 | midknight2k3 | and port that to sound files |
| 02:05:09 | midknight2k3 | presets |
| 02:05:09 | LinusN | absolutely not |
| 02:05:10 | midknight2k3 | whatever |
| 02:05:19 | midknight2k3 | ok, well one thing |
| 02:05:25 | LinusN | then the user would have to play two files for a complete setup |
| 02:05:53 | midknight2k3 | wouldnt it be just as confusing, if not more, to use the SAME file extension for similar things as opposed to a different one? the key word here is similar... it's not same |
| 02:06:21 | LinusN | .cfg files contain settings. period. |
| 02:06:31 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 02:06:39 | midknight2k3 | and .rsp files contain sound settings. period |
| 02:06:51 | LinusN | sound settings are settings too |
| 02:07:00 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 02:07:06 | midknight2k3 | but they are different kind of settings |
| 02:07:24 | LinusN | i don't agree |
| 02:07:49 | midknight2k3 | i don't GET YOU |
| 02:08:34 | LinusN | take "fade" as an example, is that a asound setting or just a setting? |
| 02:08:48 | midknight2k3 | sound setting, i'd say |
| 02:09:11 | LinusN | why? |
| 02:09:42 | midknight2k3 | because it affects the way you hear the music. if you pause, it decides whether you want to fade it or just halt it, that affects sound, i'd say it's a sound setting |
| 02:10:09 | LinusN | i can imagine that some people may disagree |
| 02:10:27 | midknight2k3 | how so? |
| 02:11:15 | LinusN | because is is a function related to the starting and stopping of music, and not entirely the sound experience |
| 02:11:30 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 02:11:44 | midknight2k3 | but if it makes a difference in hearing the music it's a "sound setting" |
| 02:11:45 | midknight2k3 | for example |
| 02:11:49 | midknight2k3 | backlight doesnt affect the sound |
| 02:11:52 | midknight2k3 | general setting |
| 02:11:57 | midknight2k3 | nor does "inverted line cursor" |
| 02:12:01 | midknight2k3 | nor "shuffle" |
| 02:12:04 | midknight2k3 | all general settings |
| 02:12:10 | midknight2k3 | but fade, that affects what you hear |
| 02:12:13 | midknight2k3 | "sound setting" |
| 02:13:09 | LinusN | i can agree with you, i was just trying to make a point that it serves little purpose to separate sound settings from the other |
| 02:13:34 | midknight2k3 | uhr |
| 02:13:54 | midknight2k3 | that doesn't really change anything lol |
| 02:14:50 | LinusN | let me put it like this: which problem do you want to solve with this? |
| 02:15:04 | midknight2k3 | i want to make it simpler to load sound settings |
| 02:15:16 | LinusN | you want a way to save and reload only the sound settings, right? |
| 02:15:27 | midknight2k3 | right |
| 02:15:56 | LinusN | but saving them to a .cfg file doesn't solve this problem? |
| 02:16:15 | midknight2k3 | it could |
| 02:16:19 | midknight2k3 | but not the way i envision it |
| 02:17:41 | LinusN | i think of the .cfg files as an all-purpose solution, that can contain not only sound settings, but also other ones |
| 02:17:47 | LinusN | handy, if you ask me |
| 02:18:11 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 02:18:12 | midknight2k3 | me too |
| 02:18:16 | midknight2k3 | BUT also sound presets |
| 02:18:23 | midknight2k3 | that carry just sound settings |
| 02:18:27 | midknight2k3 | but in a different extension |
| 02:18:54 | midknight2k3 | that'd be pretty un-confusing. it'd have its own icon and extension, be in its own "PRESETS" folder, and accessible through the menu |
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| 02:19:27 | LinusN | and why not .rockbox/presets/*.cfg ? |
| 02:19:30 | BumpyC | hey |
| 02:19:32 | LinusN | yo |
| 02:19:40 | midknight2k3 | hi BumpyC |
| 02:20:01 | midknight2k3 | LinusN: becuase it's possible to mix them with CFG files which could be confusing |
| 02:20:09 | BumpyC | I must say, I agree with LinusN on this issue (I was reading the log) |
| 02:20:14 | midknight2k3 | if they had their own icon and place, i think it'd be pretty straightforward |
| 02:20:21 | midknight2k3 | you could of course move them elsewhere |
| 02:20:32 | midknight2k3 | BumpyC: is that Bluechip? :) |
| 02:21:04 | BumpyC | midknight2k3: no, I am Joseph Jones from the mailing list |
| 02:21:14 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 02:21:37 | LinusN | think of it like .reg files |
| 02:21:51 | midknight2k3 | ok linus |
| 02:22:07 | midknight2k3 | ...are you taking that point further? |
| 02:22:18 | LinusN | nah |
| 02:22:26 | midknight2k3 | ok lol |
| 02:22:31 | MT | i think linus is spot on |
| 02:22:33 | midknight2k3 | well i can see your point too |
| 02:22:42 | midknight2k3 | ok i lose |
| 02:22:43 | MT | they are both config files |
| 02:23:00 | midknight2k3 | not the SAME configging going on |
| 02:23:02 | MT | i see where m2k is coming from |
| 02:23:19 | MT | so should we have a .resume for resume settings too? |
| 02:23:32 | midknight2k3 | we have that, no? |
| 02:23:41 | midknight2k3 | .playlist_control, actually |
| 02:24:05 | MT | thats different, you dont play dot files |
| 02:24:29 | LinusN | some day, someone will want to add non-sound options to the soundsettings files |
| 02:24:37 | LinusN | for convenience |
| 02:24:38 | midknight2k3 | forget i said it ok |
| 02:24:40 | midknight2k3 | cfg it is |
| 02:24:43 | LinusN | :-) |
| 02:25:00 | * | LinusN was saved by the cavalry |
| 02:26:16 | midknight2k3 | luckily |
| 02:26:23 | midknight2k3 | i almost had my way too :) |
| 02:33:52 | BumpyC | I'm off to bed, night folks |
| 02:33:57 | LinusN | nite |
| 02:34:30 | midknight2k3 | nite |
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| 02:35:14 | LinusN | gotta sleep too, nite all |
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| 05:39:46 | UncleSqua | I just have a quick question... I recently loaded 2.1 and all was working great. Then, last night I was playing songs but could hear nothing until I jacked the volume up to like 80. |
| 05:40:59 | UncleSqua | I have tried re-loading Rockbox but the same thing occurs again & again. Should I try an older version or is there a "magic" way of reimaging my Jukebox FM Recorder 20? Any response is always greatly appreciated. I can be reached at Bri0831@verizon.net. Thank you all in advance. |
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| 09:35:47 | moormaster | hi |
| 09:36:17 | moormaster | does anybody know which video codecs are supported by the avitoyuv - tool? |
| 09:36:47 | moormaster | I have tried to convert a video to .rvf but there is only random flicker instead of a video on the archos player |
| 09:37:28 | dwihno | Probably no codec is supported. You probably need uncompressed AVI. |
| 09:39:04 | moormaster | But then there would be very big video files if you try to convert a whole film. Wouldnt it be better to release a codec for .rvf? Maybe video-edit tools convert the videos a bit faster than the console-tools |
| 09:41:12 | dwihno | You make the videos the proper resolution? |
| 09:41:20 | moormaster | 112x64 yes |
| 09:41:29 | dwihno | Well, test with a small clip |
| 09:41:44 | dwihno | (I haven't tried encoding myself, I am only presuming the codec stuff) |
| 09:42:26 | moormaster | thats what i am doing now ;) I just meant that it is unpractical to work with uncompressed files when they are whole movies and not only 10 seconds |
| 09:43:02 | dwihno | True... |
| 09:43:17 | moormaster | are there other things that must match? (fps or sth?) |
| 09:43:28 | dwihno | erhm. read that document that came with the tools... |
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| 09:44:12 | moormaster | i can not find any documentation. There were only the tools in the zip file? |
| 09:44:31 | moormaster | is there anywhere a detailled documentation about converting avi to rvf? |
| 09:46:47 | dwihno | hm |
| 09:47:08 | dwihno | there was some basic info in the mailing list |
| 09:47:15 | dwihno | my bad. |
| 09:47:17 | dwihno | I'll check. |
| 09:48:12 | dwihno | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-02/ |
| 09:48:24 | dwihno | The audio/video player threads |
| 09:49:43 | moormaster | k thx |
| 09:54:50 | dwihno | Tell me if you're successful. |
| 09:54:56 | moormaster | k |
| 09:59:25 | moormaster | i have tried with uncompressed video and it gives stripes. The rvf video with audio plays normal audio with snow on the screen |
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| 10:01:04 | dwihno | hmm |
| 10:01:10 | moormaster | do you know any video players which can play yuv-files? I would like to know if the yuv file is ok |
| 10:01:27 | dwihno | erhm... nah, don't know of any... |
| 10:01:34 | dwihno | again, the mailing list might be a good source for information |
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| 10:36:14 | moormaster | got it! |
| 10:36:32 | moormaster | i have to tell the tool the source fps of the video |
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| 22:01:40 | track | hi scott |
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| 22:13:54 | T^JulioVega | hey guys |
| 22:14:16 | c0utta | gday there |
| 22:15:14 | T^JulioVega | anyone knows in which program language rockbox is actually written? |
| 22:15:22 | track | C+ |
| 22:15:41 | T^JulioVega | kewl |
| 22:19:04 | moormaster | is it possible to surpress usb mode? I would like to use the usb cable as power supply while i am hearing music with the archos |
| 22:19:41 | T^JulioVega | unix or windooze? |
| 22:20:01 | moormaster | windows, but does this matter |
| 22:20:24 | T^JulioVega | oh i thought of something other... i don't think so |
| 22:20:25 | moormaster | ? |
| 22:20:49 | T^JulioVega | lol deutsch? |
| 22:20:53 | moormaster | yes |
| 22:20:56 | moormaster | why? |
| 22:20:59 | T^JulioVega | me 2 |
| 22:21:03 | moormaster | gut ;) |
| 22:21:27 | T^JulioVega | benutz doch einfach das netzkabel zur stromversorgung |
| 22:21:43 | moormaster | wäre doch praktisch, wenn ich das USB Kabel als Spannungsversorgung nehme und die Jukebox weiter normal benutzen kann, ohne dass sie sofort in den USB 2.0 Festplattenmodus wechselt |
| 22:21:54 | T^JulioVega | geht net |
| 22:21:57 | T^JulioVega | wart mal |
| 22:21:57 | moormaster | dann muss ich den Netzadapter nichgt immer mitschleppen |
| 22:23:28 | T^JulioVega | stand irgendwo auf der hp dass die das net machen weil du ja wenn die angeschlossen is dateien ändern kannst und wenn du dann gleichzeitig auffer festplatte von der jukebox mitm display rumguckst kriegt der probs oder so |
| 22:24:24 | moormaster | naja hätte ja sein können, dass die Firmware erst selber in den Festplattenmodus umschaltet. Aber scheinbar zeigt sie nur an, dass eine USB Verbindung besteht und sperrt sich solange selbst |
| 22:25:12 | T^JulioVega | jo |
| 22:25:33 | moormaster | wobei es auch schon vorkam, dass ich die Jukebox komplett resetten musste, bevor sie Windows wieder erkannt hat. Vorher hat es nur behauptet, dass sich ein unidentifizierbares Gerät am USB Anschluss befindet |
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| 22:25:58 | T^JulioVega | jo war bei nem freund von mir auch so als ich die treiber installiert hab, hast du winxp? |
| 22:26:23 | moormaster | jo |
| 22:27:10 | T^JulioVega | ich glaub das liegt an winxp der sagt ja auch so was von wegen treibersignatur fehlt und all so n zeugs |
| 22:28:02 | moormaster | naja aber meistens gehts ja auch. Und wenns nach Windows geht sind ja immer nur die Treiber signiert, die sowieso schon mitinstalliert sind. |
| 22:28:35 | T^JulioVega | manche andern auch z.b. detonator aber stimmt schon |
| 22:30:21 | moormaster | Wenn das jedoch eine Art Bug der Firmware wäre, könnte man das doch beabsichtigt hervorrufen, um die Benutzung als externe Festplatte zu unterbinden, damit man ungehindert die Jukebox nutzen kann. Und wenn man wieder in den USB Modus wechselt, ist alles wieder normal. |
| 22:30:21 | moormaster | Aber wenn dieses Problem eh nur unter Windows auftritt, nützt das ja auch nix |
| 22:31:07 | c0utta | actually track, it's just plain C |
| 22:31:27 | T^JulioVega | ah c's all the same ;) |
| 22:31:39 | T^JulioVega | jo sogar nur unter winxp |
| 22:31:46 | moormaster | axo |
| 22:31:50 | T^JulioVega | also bei mir unter win2k läuft's prima |
| 22:32:07 | c0utta | i think you could use c++, but the core developers decided on c |
| 22:32:41 | moormaster | hatte das Problem auch nur, als ich die Platte öfters reinstecken und wieder rausziehen musste, dass er es dann plötzlich nicht mehr wollte. Hatte versucht ein VIdeo in rvf zu konvertieren |
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| 22:34:32 | moormaster | da wäre es zum Beipsiel auch praktisch gewesen, wenn man hätte einfach die Firmware umschalten können, anstatt immer das Kabel zu ziehen |
| 22:34:35 | T^JulioVega | jo bei mir hängt der auch manchma wenn ich größere sachen draufziehn will |
| 22:37:21 | moormaster | is das eigentlich normal, dass der mehrere Tage rechnet, wenn ich ein DivX-Video in YUV umwandeln lasse? |
| 22:39:11 | T^JulioVega | wenn du's net von pc-festplatte auf pc-festplatte machst, ja |
| 22:39:36 | T^JulioVega | wenn du zum beispiel das original auf netzwerk-pc oder mp3-player hast |
| 22:39:49 | moormaster | ne war alles auf der lokalen Platte |
| 22:40:08 | | Quit track ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/") |
| 22:40:17 | moormaster | und das Konsolen tool hält es ja auch nichtmal für nötig, anzuzeigen, wieviel % es schon umgerechnet hat |
| 22:40:28 | T^JulioVega | ^^ |
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| 22:40:43 | T^JulioVega | benutz adobe premiere |
| 22:40:47 | T^JulioVega | is das beste |
| 22:40:52 | LinusN | guys, please stick to english in this channel |
| 22:40:53 | moormaster | kann der in yuv umwandeln? |
| 22:41:21 | T^JulioVega | if you have the codec installed (better this way?) |
| 22:41:41 | LinusN | ja, das ist besser :-) |
| 22:41:54 | T^JulioVega | ^^ |
| 22:42:02 | pfavr | Hvad med dansk eller svensk?-) |
| 22:42:12 | moormaster | than i could use Virtual Dub, too |
| 22:42:12 | moormaster | It should recognize the codec if it is installed |
| 22:42:12 | T^JulioVega | rofl |
| 22:42:16 | LinusN | pfavr: in sweden yet? |
| 22:42:40 | T^JulioVega | that should work |
| 22:42:44 | pfavr | Yes, Ostermalm, Stockholm |
| 22:42:53 | LinusN | nice, we should meet |
| 22:42:54 | moormaster | where can I download the yuv-codec? |
| 22:43:01 | T^JulioVega | getaway in stockholm ;) |
| 22:43:12 | T^JulioVega | no ahnung |
| 22:43:17 | pfavr | Really like to meet the RockBox hackers |
| 22:43:18 | moormaster | ;) |
| 22:43:31 | LinusN | time for a Rockbox DevCon then |
| 22:43:36 | moormaster | than I should try to google for it ;) |
| 22:43:44 | moormaster | or then |
| 22:43:54 | T^JulioVega | or http://www.g00gl3.de |
| 22:43:57 | pfavr | How about next week? or this weekend? |
| 22:44:17 | moormaster | lol |
| 22:44:18 | LinusN | next week sounds good to me, let's keep in touch |
| 22:44:20 | LinusN | gotta go |
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| 22:44:23 | T^JulioVega | anyone here who understands the rockbox developement tutorial? |
| 22:45:00 | pfavr | Haven't read it, but I managed to make a development environment at my other computer.... |
| 22:45:07 | moormaster | me too |
| 22:45:07 | pfavr | And check the stuff out from CVS |
| 22:45:11 | moormaster | but without cvs |
| 22:45:32 | T^JulioVega | yeah i don't understand that part |
| 22:45:40 | T^JulioVega | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html |
| 22:45:43 | T^JulioVega | point 8 |
| 22:47:42 | moormaster | mmh I have downloaded some cvs clients (even one for windows) but i don't know how to use them |
| 22:48:03 | T^JulioVega | i don't even know what i have to do now |
| 22:48:34 | pfavr | I use linux |
| 22:48:48 | moormaster | I bet under linux it is not easier ;) |
| 22:48:51 | pfavr | So I can't help you there... |
| 22:48:59 | pfavr | (for me it is:-) |
| 22:49:20 | moormaster | maybe you have to download cvs first somewhere |
| 22:49:48 | T^JulioVega | i have the sourcecode so i think i don't need cvs |
| 22:50:01 | T^JulioVega | Download and unpack RockBox sourcecode to /home/rockbox OR check out via CVS |
| 22:50:22 | moormaster | so you dont want to use cvs? |
| 22:50:22 | pfavr | Yes, cvs is only needed for getting the sourcecode from cvs |
| 22:50:52 | T^JulioVega | k |
| 22:50:59 | moormaster | Have you got the bash-console working? |
| 22:51:01 | T^JulioVega | i think i'm getting it on now |
| 22:51:58 | pfavr | Hey, I do know Cygwin... but normally I get it from redhat.com |
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| 22:52:13 | T^JulioVega | but wtf do i need cygwin for? |
| 22:52:18 | pfavr | Cygwin contains a lot of tools... cvs amongst others |
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| 22:52:23 | moormaster | for compiling it |
| 22:52:27 | T^JulioVega | ah |
| 22:52:28 | T^JulioVega | k |
| 22:52:54 | pfavr | I think the rockbox-sdk_win32.tar.bz2 contains cygwin also |
| 22:53:03 | T^JulioVega | yup |
| 22:53:09 | moormaster | btw why is it still possible to mute the sound while the keylock is on? |
| 22:53:22 | pfavr | it is a faster way of getting both cygwin and the binutils for the rockbox (a cross compiler - GCC) |
| 22:53:24 | moormaster | I reportet it some time ago as bug |
| 22:53:56 | pfavr | I hope you get the develoment environment going:-) |
| 22:54:09 | T^JulioVega | i think for the ones who turn the vol to max and then play and immediately lock the keys, so that they don't destroy their eirs ^^ |
| 22:54:19 | T^JulioVega | ears i mean ^^ |
| 22:55:15 | moormaster | yes but it could at leat be included in the options weather mute should be possibel while keylock or not |
| 22:55:57 | moormaster | possibel -> possible ;) |
| 22:56:29 | T^JulioVega | maybe they just want to ärger you ^^ |
| 22:56:50 | T^JulioVega | wtf? |
| 22:56:54 | moormaster | not just me. There are many posts which just havent been answered |
| 22:57:00 | moormaster | wtf? |
| 22:57:00 | T^JulioVega | ^^ |
| 22:57:02 | T^JulioVega | ../tools/configure |
| 22:57:04 | moormaster | whats wtf? |
| 22:57:11 | T^JulioVega | Create build dir and configure build: |
| 22:57:11 | T^JulioVega | user@host ~ |
| 22:57:11 | T^JulioVega | $ mkdir build-dir |
| 22:57:11 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK T^JulioVega |
| 22:57:11 | T^JulioVega | user@host ~ |
| 22:57:11 | T^JulioVega | $ cd build-dir |
| 22:57:11 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 22:57:11 | T^JulioVega | user@host ~/build-dir |
| 22:57:13 | T^JulioVega | ../tools/configure |
| 22:57:17 | T^JulioVega | this is in the tutorial |
| 22:57:29 | T^JulioVega | but there is no configure.bat or so in my folder |
| 22:57:42 | moormaster | no but configure without extension |
| 22:57:46 | T^JulioVega | so how can i run something that isn't there |
| 22:57:52 | pfavr | you go to the place where you want the makefiles |
| 22:57:52 | T^JulioVega | no |
| 22:58:00 | moormaster | it should be there after the source is there |
| 22:58:02 | pfavr | (this is build dir - the newly created directory) |
| 22:58:04 | pfavr | and then |
| 22:58:09 | T^JulioVega | E:\Rockbox Developement\tools>dir |
| 22:58:09 | T^JulioVega | Datenträger in Laufwerk E: ist TOOLS |
| 22:58:09 | T^JulioVega | Datenträgernummer: 1053-15E6 |
| 22:58:09 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 22:58:09 | T^JulioVega | Verzeichnis von E:\Rockbox Developement\tools |
| 22:58:09 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 22:58:09 | T^JulioVega | 11.02.2004 22:49 <DIR> . |
| 22:58:11 | T^JulioVega | 11.02.2004 22:49 <DIR> .. |
| 22:58:13 | T^JulioVega | 04.01.2003 02:12 38.341 bmp2rb.exe |
| 22:58:15 | T^JulioVega | 04.01.2003 02:12 53.709 convbdf.exe |
| 22:58:17 | pfavr | execute the program in ..\tools |
| 22:58:17 | T^JulioVega | 04.01.2003 02:12 11.264 descramble.exe |
| 22:58:19 | T^JulioVega | 04.01.2003 02:12 11.264 scramble.exe |
| 22:58:21 | T^JulioVega | 04.01.2003 02:12 22.016 sh2d.exe |
| 22:58:23 | T^JulioVega | 5 Datei(en) 136.594 Bytes |
| 22:58:25 | T^JulioVega | 2 Verzeichnis(se), 288.743.424 Bytes frei |
| 22:58:27 | T^JulioVega | E:\Rockbox Developement\tools> |
| 22:58:31 | T^JulioVega | here |
| 22:58:37 | T^JulioVega | no configure there |
| 22:58:39 | moormaster | have you extracted the source into home/rockbox? |
| 22:58:47 | T^JulioVega | yup |
| 22:58:54 | T^JulioVega | extracted everything |
| 22:59:10 | pfavr | strange |
| 22:59:16 | moormaster | it is not in the comiled tools |
| 22:59:26 | moormaster | the script is in the tools folder of the source |
| 22:59:43 | T^JulioVega | nope |
| 22:59:49 | T^JulioVega | no confgure there |
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| 23:00:17 | moormaster | this should be there: |
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| 23:00:21 | T^JulioVega | searched for it in the whole directory, nothing found |
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| 23:01:24 | moormaster | oh got kicked maybe too much text |
| 23:01:47 | T^JulioVega | ? i saw no text |
| 23:02:15 | moormaster | i have tried to post the contents of my tools folder. That was too much |
| 23:02:24 | T^JulioVega | query me |
| 23:02:27 | T^JulioVega | and sen d it ther |
| 23:02:40 | moormaster | k i try |
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| 23:03:47 | T^JulioVega | nope nothing received |
| 23:03:54 | moormaster | got kicked again |
| 23:03:55 | moormaster | ;) |
| 23:04:02 | moormaster | try to send it as file |
| 23:04:10 | T^JulioVega | nope |
| 23:04:14 | T^JulioVega | doesnt work |
| 23:04:18 | T^JulioVega | my proxy |
| 23:04:18 | moormaster | why that? |
| 23:04:20 | moormaster | k |
| 23:04:26 | moormaster | upload somewhere... |
| 23:04:27 | T^JulioVega | my proxy suxx |
| 23:04:54 | moormaster | http://windowsclone.dat-holla.de/dir.txt |
| 23:05:03 | moormaster | this should workl |
| 23:05:46 | T^JulioVega | this is what i got |
| 23:06:06 | moormaster | but there is a file named configure shown at my directory |
| 23:06:11 | T^JulioVega | Verzeichnis von E:\Rockbox Developement\home\rockbox\tools |
| 23:06:11 | T^JulioVega | 11.02.2004 22:47 <DIR> . |
| 23:06:12 | T^JulioVega | 11.02.2004 22:47 <DIR> .. |
| 23:06:12 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 23:06:12 | T^JulioVega | 21.05.2003 08:31 10.984 bmp2rb.c |
| 23:06:12 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 23:06:12 | T^JulioVega | 24.01.2003 11:55 26.403 convbdf.c |
| 23:06:12 | *** | Alert Mode level 6 |
| 23:06:12 | T^JulioVega | 06.11.2003 12:28 2.548 descramble.c |
| 23:06:14 | T^JulioVega | 10.01.2003 11:05 28.171 generate_rocklatin.c |
| 23:06:16 | T^JulioVega | 06.11.2003 12:28 3.879 scramble.c |
| 23:06:18 | T^JulioVega | 28.03.2002 15:42 28.603 sh2d.c |
| 23:06:20 | T^JulioVega | 24.01.2003 11:29 1.582 rockbox-style.el |
| 23:06:22 | T^JulioVega | 23.01.2003 00:01 2.034 sample.emacs |
| 23:06:24 | T^JulioVega | 8 Datei(en) 104.204 Bytes |
| 23:06:26 | T^JulioVega | 2 Verzeichnis(se), 288.743.424 Bytes frei |
| 23:06:44 | moormaster | did you check out via cvs or did you download the source? |
| 23:06:59 | T^JulioVega | download |
| 23:07:09 | T^JulioVega | i dont think cvs would work |
| 23:07:32 | moormaster | mmh i have downloaded it, too. It was included in my files |
| 23:07:50 | T^JulioVega | mom |
| 23:08:47 | T^JulioVega | rockbox-2.1.tar.gz |
| 23:08:58 | T^JulioVega | this is what i downloaded |
| 23:09:16 | T^JulioVega | aaaaaaahhhhhhhh |
| 23:09:17 | T^JulioVega | ^^ |
| 23:09:19 | T^JulioVega | i see |
| 23:09:21 | moormaster | i have downloaded the daily builds source |
| 23:09:31 | moormaster | but it should make no difference |
| 23:09:39 | pfavr | just got this idea: how about a scroll lyrics while playing the song plugin? |
| 23:09:40 | T^JulioVega | yeah i unpacked it wrong |
| 23:10:04 | T^JulioVega | u cn view the lyrics text-file while listening |
| 23:10:15 | T^JulioVega | no need for a plugin |
| 23:10:55 | moormaster | and who wants to write the synchronisation timings that the plugin knows to which line it has to scroll at which time |
| 23:10:58 | pfavr | I was thinking like automatic - like a screensaver... if there is a file with the same name as the mp3 in the same dir but with extension .lyr or something... then show it automatically |
| 23:11:49 | T^JulioVega | if u write it... nice idea |
| 23:11:50 | pfavr | just count the lines and adjust the scroll speed so it scrolls through the text file in the same time as the duration of the mp3 |
| 23:12:09 | T^JulioVega | get working ;) |
| 23:12:16 | pfavr | showing 4 lines... should be fine I gues... |
| 23:12:30 | T^JulioVega | 2 |
| 23:12:33 | pfavr | well, I reaaally should be working on something else u know |
| 23:12:38 | T^JulioVega | i have the jukebox studio |
| 23:12:52 | pfavr | I have JBR20 |
| 23:13:03 | moormaster | i have jbr 20fm |
| 23:13:05 | T^JulioVega | i have jbs20 |
| 23:16:13 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 23:17:48 | T^JulioVega | oh fuk |
| 23:17:53 | moormaster | what? |
| 23:18:01 | T^JulioVega | bash: ../tools/configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 23:18:10 | T^JulioVega | i think i have to use linux |
| 23:18:16 | moormaster | have you downloaded the tools? |
| 23:18:20 | T^JulioVega | yup |
| 23:18:33 | T^JulioVega | but i can't execute the configure-file |
| 23:18:34 | moormaster | and extract them to home/rockbox/tools ? |
| 23:18:38 | T^JulioVega | yo |
| 23:19:00 | moormaster | in directoy are you know? |
| 23:19:04 | moormaster | in which? |
| 23:19:17 | T^JulioVega | root directory |
| 23:19:34 | T^JulioVega | where the cygwin is |
| 23:19:41 | moormaster | you have to go into the build directory and execute the script from there with thiss command |
| 23:20:28 | T^JulioVega | just tell me what i have to enter in the dos-box when i'm in the root-directory (no cygwin or so started) |
| 23:20:43 | moormaster | not in the dosbox |
| 23:20:48 | T^JulioVega | what then |
| 23:20:52 | T^JulioVega | cygwin? |
| 23:21:00 | moormaster | if you have cygwin installed there should be a cygwin.bat |
| 23:21:09 | T^JulioVega | yup |
| 23:21:13 | moormaster | this file opens a bash-interpreter |
| 23:21:22 | T^JulioVega | E:\Rockbox Developement>cygwin |
| 23:21:22 | T^JulioVega | bash.exe: warning: could not find /tmp, please create! |
| 23:21:22 | T^JulioVega | 3 [main] bash 1464 init_cygheap::etc_changed: Can't open /etc for checking |
| 23:21:22 | T^JulioVega | , Win32 error 3 |
| 23:21:22 | T^JulioVega | bash-2.05b$ |
| 23:21:29 | T^JulioVega | now im in cygwin |
| 23:21:48 | moormaster | then type |
| 23:21:48 | moormaster | cd home |
| 23:21:48 | moormaster | cd rockbox |
| 23:21:55 | moormaster | mkdir build-dir |
| 23:21:59 | moormaster | cd build-dir |
| 23:22:08 | moormaster | ../tools/configure |
| 23:22:19 | T^JulioVega | bash: mkdir: command not found |
| 23:22:30 | moormaster | mmh |
| 23:23:07 | moormaster | have you clicked on the .reg file after copying cygwin? |
| 23:23:27 | T^JulioVega | yup |
| 23:23:37 | T^JulioVega | but i didn't put it on c: |
| 23:23:43 | moormaster | oh you have to install cygwin to c:\cygwin or you have to change the values in the reg-file |
| 23:23:58 | T^JulioVega | yo i see it |
| 23:24:07 | T^JulioVega | *klatsch* |
| 23:24:13 | moormaster | ;) |
| 23:25:37 | moormaster | if it has work you should see sth. like that: |
| 23:25:37 | moormaster | WINUSERNAME@PCNAME ~ |
| 23:25:37 | moormaster | $ |
| 23:25:39 | T^JulioVega | still doesn't work |
| 23:25:59 | T^JulioVega | my regfile is that one: |
| 23:25:59 | T^JulioVega | REGEDIT4 |
| 23:25:59 | T^JulioVega | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions] |
| 23:25:59 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 23:25:59 | T^JulioVega | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin] |
| 23:26:00 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 23:26:00 | T^JulioVega | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2] |
| 23:26:01 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 23:26:01 | T^JulioVega | "cygdrive prefix"="/cygdrive" |
| 23:26:03 | T^JulioVega | "cygdrive flags"=dword:00000022 |
| 23:26:05 | T^JulioVega | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/] |
| 23:26:07 | T^JulioVega | "native"="E:\\Rockbox Developement\\cygwin" |
| 23:26:09 | T^JulioVega | "flags"=dword:0000000a |
| 23:26:11 | T^JulioVega | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options] |
| 23:26:17 | T^JulioVega | i changed this one |
| 23:26:19 | T^JulioVega | "native"="E:\\Rockbox Developement\\cygwin" |
| 23:26:24 | moormaster | have you double clicked again onto the file? |
| 23:26:29 | T^JulioVega | sure |
| 23:26:50 | moormaster | what does the console show after starting cygwin.bat? |
| 23:27:12 | T^JulioVega | bash.exe: warning: could not find /tmp, please create! |
| 23:27:12 | T^JulioVega | 2 [main] bash 1672 init_cygheap::etc_changed: Can't open /etc for checking |
| 23:27:12 | T^JulioVega | , Win32 error 3 |
| 23:27:12 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 23:27:12 | T^JulioVega | bash-2.05b$ |
| 23:27:39 | moormaster | mmh maybe it would be easier to install it again to c:\cygwin |
| 23:27:49 | T^JulioVega | sieht so aus ^^ |
| 23:27:57 | moormaster | ;) |
| 23:29:00 | T^JulioVega | still doesnt work |
| 23:29:16 | T^JulioVega | ah fuck it i go reboot and use linux |
| 23:29:21 | moormaster | lol |
| 23:29:37 | T^JulioVega | see ya |
| 23:29:39 | | Quit T^JulioVega () |
| 23:37:13 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 23:38:22 | | Join Fred [0] (~frederik@pD9EE2E63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:38:30 | Fred | back again with a new nick ;) |
| 23:38:38 | moormaster | ;) |
| 23:38:40 | Fred | and a new os ^^ |
| 23:38:55 | Fred | so, where is my closest gnu ftp? |
| 23:39:38 | moormaster | i have tried to change the registry values but he still loads the files from c:\cygwin. Maybe a reboot is required after changing the registry values |
| 23:39:44 | moormaster | but it shouldnt |
| 23:40:13 | Fred | doesn't matter, linux is better anyway ;) |
| 23:40:26 | moormaster | if you know how to use it, yes ;) |
| 23:40:51 | Fred | or if u have a father who knows how to use it ^^ |
| 23:41:27 | moormaster | my father buyed it and since then he never installed it |
| 23:41:41 | moormaster | now it is an old version ;) |
| 23:41:47 | Fred | ^^ |
| 23:42:05 | Fred | my father knows more about linux than about windows |
| 23:43:07 | Fred | ah does anyone now how to get those files required for linux without searching the whole gnu ftp? |
| 23:43:54 | moormaster | lol it semm that you got the same problem in linux now: |
| 23:43:54 | moormaster | how to start cygwin ;) |
| 23:44:02 | moormaster | semm -> seems |
| 23:44:25 | Fred | yeah but the thing is first i need cygwin ;) |
| 23:44:41 | Fred | got it ^^ |
| 23:44:43 | | Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 23:44:47 | moormaster | but cygwin is for windows or not? |
| 23:45:00 | moormaster | isnt the cygWIN because it is for windows? |
| 23:45:07 | moormaster | isnt the NAME ... |
| 23:45:09 | Fred | maybe |
| 23:45:25 | Fred | auf jeden fall lad ich grad die datein für linux runter |
| 23:45:38 | moormaster | viel Spaß beim Einstellen |
| 23:45:46 | Fred | jo ^^ |
| 23:45:54 | Fred | wie alt bist du eigentlich? |
| 23:45:57 | moormaster | 18 |
| 23:46:33 | Fred | oh mann alle sind aelter als ich ^^ |
| 23:47:06 | Fred | ey wieso lad ich mit dsl nur mit 23kb/s? |
| 23:47:19 | moormaster | mmh weil der Server ausgelastet ist? |
| 23:47:35 | Fred | jo koennt sein |
| 23:48:18 | Fred | und nacher wars die falsche datei und ich hab umsonst 13 mb mit 23 kb/s gesaugt ^^ |
| 23:48:52 | moormaster | hattest du eigentlich die Batchdatei umgeschrieben zum Starten von cygwin? |
| 23:48:58 | | Quit uski ("Fermeture du client") |
| 23:49:03 | Fred | nope |
| 23:49:10 | Fred | musste man das? |
| 23:49:17 | moormaster | weil die wechselt immer nach C:\cygwin\bin und versucht von da dann bash zu starten |
| 23:49:28 | moormaster | fällt mir grad so auf |
| 23:49:29 | Fred | d'oh |
| 23:49:39 | Fred | *klatsch* |
| 23:50:39 | Fred | immer diese c:-programme |
| 23:50:52 | Fred | wer hat schon nur 1 partition? |
| 23:51:15 | moormaster | ich seit dem ich meine 2. Platte in einen anderen Rechner verfrachtet hab ;) |
| 23:51:23 | Fred | ^^ |
| 23:51:35 | moormaster | aber C hat einfach jeder normale User auf jeden Fall |
| 23:51:50 | Fred | jo aber nicht jeder installiert alles nach c |
| 23:52:09 | moormaster | woher sollen die Entwickler wissen, auf welche Partition jeder User das gerne drauf hätte |
| 23:52:18 | moormaster | welcher |
| 23:52:53 | moormaster | die einen haben auf d nur backups andere nur spiele wieder andere haben da Linux drauf usw. |
| 23:53:01 | Fred | kann man ja machen dass man die irgendwo zentral einstellt und alle programme die die brauchen gucken sie dnn da nach, schwer is das net |
| 23:53:20 | moormaster | jo in der regfile ;) |
| 23:53:32 | Fred | ich hab c,d,e,f,g und linux-partition ^^ |
| 23:53:54 | moormaster | und die Batch ist ja nur für die Leute, die nich wissen, dass man die Console mit bash −−login -i aufrufen muss |
| 23:54:23 | Fred | oder die zu faul sind, das einzugeben ^^ |
| 23:54:33 | moormaster | jo ;) |
| 23:55:07 | Fred | so wie ich, ich hab mir n perl programm geschrieben was pg heißt, dass macht nix anderes als ping 172.16.0.6 ^^ |
| 23:55:24 | Fred | war nur zu faul das jedes mal einzutippen |
| 23:55:27 | moormaster | lol |
| 23:56:01 | Fred | weil irc sons immer ping timeout hatte jetz hab ich den ganzen tag n ping laufen ^^ |
| 23:56:25 | moormaster | ich nehm Trillian für IRC |
| 23:56:36 | moormaster | da gabs sowas bis jetzt nich |
| 23:56:48 | Fred | lag sowieso am proxy |
| 23:56:55 | Fred | war bei icq auch |
| 23:57:01 | moormaster | axo |
| 23:58:02 | Fred | boah wenn jede der 3 dateien die ich brauch 10 min zum downloaden brauch krieg ich noch kraempfe hier ^^ |
| 23:58:46 | moormaster | warn das noch schöne Zeiten mit 56k... war zwar langsam, aber wenigstens konstant langsam. Hab fast nie weniger, als 4 kb/s gehabt ;) |
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