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#rockbox log for 2004-02-18

00:02:54 Join LinusN [200] (
00:03:07Bagderhey ho
00:03:22midknight2k3Linus! Bagder!
00:04:42LinusNyo yo
00:05:57midknight2k3woo hoo
00:07:20BagderI don't think I dare to be here when LinusN is here ;-)
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00:12:52midknight2k3LinusN: I've implemented the Preset loader
00:12:59midknight2k3with CFG files as you requested :)
00:13:09midknight2k3but.. i was thinking
00:13:21midknight2k3how about a "
00:13:36midknight2k3how about a "Load Volume with Preset" option? Sound any good?
00:17:40 Join IRCMonkey__ [0] (
00:17:57IRCMonkey__anyone home
00:18:10midknight2k3i am
00:18:28IRCMonkey__i have a question, i just got my jukebox recorder 2 in the mail
00:18:41IRCMonkey__connected it to my pc, and am charging the battery
00:19:36IRCMonkey__but i cannot eject the hardware from my xp system it says i will have to try later, and has been saying that for quite sometime... I transfered the rockbox stuff over, and just don't wanna jack my machine before i even use it
00:19:44IRCMonkey__any ideas?
00:20:03midknight2k3well i always just unplug mine, but its definitely not recommended
00:20:08midknight2k3no programs accessing it?
00:21:05IRCMonkey__hmm lemme see
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00:21:58IRCMonkey__that was the problem
00:22:06IRCMonkey__lol i was still looking at it in explorer
00:22:26midknight2k3it ejected ok?
00:22:31midknight2k3after you closed that?
00:22:34IRCMonkey__yeah thanks
00:22:46IRCMonkey__now i just have to wait to use it because of the damn battery charging
00:22:50midknight2k3no problem
00:23:15IRCMonkey__with rock box do i still just make the playlists in the same manor i would without the new firmware?
00:23:18midknight2k3you can use it whilst it charges
00:23:50IRCMonkey__it just has that animation on it saying that the battery is charging
00:23:52midknight2k3you hold on, press play, and go to playlist -> insert
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00:24:11midknight2k3when you're done "inserting" files go to menu -> playlist options -> save current playlist
00:24:24midknight2k3The animation, as in the battery in the upper left?
00:24:49IRCMonkey__and in the center of the screen it says ARCHOS JUKEBOX charging
00:25:08IRCMonkey__with an ever repeating loop of a status bar
00:25:09midknight2k3you can just hit on at that point
00:25:30IRCMonkey__hang on lemme try
00:26:27IRCMonkey__indeed i can :)
00:28:54IRCMonkey__holy shit its got a radio!!!
00:29:13midknight2k3is this a v2?
00:29:35midknight2k3you lucky
00:29:40midknight2k3some v2s got shipped with a radip
00:29:43IRCMonkey__i got a hell of adeal on amazon
00:30:03midknight2k3yeah isnt it like $130
00:30:25IRCMonkey__well not that cheep
00:30:28IRCMonkey__but 180
00:30:33IRCMonkey__as opposed to an ipod
00:30:39midknight2k3theres a rebat
00:30:48midknight2k3if you didnt know
00:30:49IRCMonkey__oh yeah?
00:30:56midknight2k3that brings it to $130, i believe
00:31:03midknight2k3let me check on that
00:31:07IRCMonkey__oh that is sweet
00:32:34MTyeah theres a $50 mail in rebate
00:32:51midknight2k3hold on
00:32:58midknight2k3let me link you
00:33:04IRCMonkey__thanks so much man
00:33:22midknight2k3Price: $179.88
00:33:26midknight2k3You Save: $120.11 (40%)
00:33:26midknight2k3Mail-In Rebates: $50.00
00:33:26midknight2k3Price After Rebates: $129.88
00:33:35midknight2k3$129.88 sorry lol
00:34:25midknight2k3i should get one of those lol
00:34:30midknight2k3$130 that's unheard of
00:34:52IRCMonkey__hell yeah, although each time i try to play the radio it says screen frozen
00:35:31midknight2k3just press ..
00:35:35midknight2k3"play" i think
00:35:49IRCMonkey__thats what i did LOL
00:36:12midknight2k3Play freezes the screen
00:36:19midknight2k3it possibly improves reception
00:36:23MTm2k I thought you were in the UK?
00:36:23midknight2k3do you see the peak meter on the lcd?
00:36:52IRCMonkey__i did, then i tried to tune to a station, i hit play and it said screen frozen
00:37:01midknight2k3why "play"?
00:39:01IRCMonkey__maybe it needs an antenna
00:40:39midknight2k3why? why play? no reception?
00:41:22IRCMonkey__maybe it needs more battery power... i am not sure
00:41:55midknight2k3never mind
00:42:40IRCMonkey__no matter what thoght this is alotta machine for a ton less then an ipod
00:43:22IRCMonkey__thanks so much for your help
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01:50:38IRCMonkey___hey midknight u still here?
01:51:15IRCMonkey___or anyone who may be able to help me with some noob questions about my archos
01:51:21midknight2k3i here
01:51:51IRCMonkey___man i love this thing, but cant quite figure out if i have radio functionality or if that is just built into the firmware
01:52:08midknight2k3ah. you weren't answering my question earlier
01:52:18IRCMonkey___oh sorry, i was too busy pushing buttons
01:52:36midknight2k315:36:12 | <midknight2k3> why "play"?
01:52:36midknight2k315:38:12 | <IRCMonkey__> maybe it needs an antenna
01:52:36midknight2k315:39:44 | <midknight2k3> wait
01:52:36DBUGEnqueued KICK midknight2k3
01:52:36midknight2k315:39:49 | <midknight2k3> why? why play? no reception?
01:52:36midknight2k315:40:33 | <IRCMonkey__> maybe it needs more battery power... i am not sure
01:53:05IRCMonkey___i am not sure i undersand what you mean why "play"
01:53:12midknight2k3why did you press play?
01:53:26midknight2k315:36:02 | <IRCMonkey__> i did, then i tried to tune to a station, i hit play and it said screen frozen
01:53:32IRCMonkey___well i was scrolling through the stations
01:53:42midknight2k3it automatically tunes them
01:53:42IRCMonkey___stopped on the one i was looking for, and heard nothing
01:53:57midknight2k3try going to menu->info->debug(keep out)->FM Radio
01:54:14IRCMonkey___okay i will have to wait about 15 minutes cuz i am loading music right now
01:54:31IRCMonkey___another thing i found kind of odd
01:54:58IRCMonkey___i thought that mine was only an mp3 player, yet the a/v cables they gave me were yellow, red, and white... why did i get a video cable?
01:55:11midknight2k3a/v cables?
01:55:21IRCMonkey___the rca
01:55:36midknight2k3there is one cable that's red+white and on the other end has a mini jack
01:55:41midknight2k3but there is no video cable
01:55:51midknight2k3you got a video cable?
01:56:09IRCMonkey___i expected only stereo rca which is red/white-mini
01:56:19IRCMonkey___but i got red/yellow/white-mini
01:56:27midknight2k3VIDEO CABLE
01:56:30IRCMonkey___and yellow is for video
01:56:47midknight2k3those nerds at archos probably mixed it up with an AV320's or something
01:57:20IRCMonkey___so i dont cant use it to play like divx or anything :(
01:57:28IRCMonkey___i got really excited there for a second
01:57:36midknight2k3it does play movies
01:57:41midknight2k3but not in color of course
01:58:34IRCMonkey___on my little screen, or will it play through the rca wires
01:58:47midknight2k3your screen
01:58:53IRCMonkey___my manual is a pile of crap btw
01:59:44midknight2k3i hate those
01:59:49midknight2k3its like "how to press UP"
02:00:07IRCMonkey___yeah, and the rockbox one is a bit too technical for me, and i am a pretty tech savvy kinda guy
02:00:17midknight2k3lol really?
02:01:32IRCMonkey___well it talks about flashing the bios in section 6.5 and loses me... and i am no fool, i hacked my xbox without too much trouble
02:01:43midknight2k3really wow
02:01:51midknight2k3well flashing it can get it to start up in about 4 seconds
02:02:03midknight2k3and you know how slow it is atm, like 10s least
02:02:59IRCMonkey___when i try to run the firmware_flash plug in it tells me wrong plugin
02:05:53IRCMonkey___okay one last question for now.. then i will stop hassling you
02:06:24IRCMonkey___is it possible to lock your player so that if u accidentally hit a button it wont interupt whats playing
02:06:43midknight2k3at the WPS, that's F1+ down
02:07:12midknight2k3while playing screen
02:07:39IRCMonkey___i have a feeling that i am going to be useless at work for the next few weeks playing with this thing
02:07:43IRCMonkey___how long have you had yours?
02:08:20midknight2k3aabout a year
02:08:28IRCMonkey___any problems?
02:09:28midknight2k3not major
02:09:38midknight2k3the Fx buttons tend to... erm... act unreliably
02:10:04IRCMonkey___while reading up about it the buttons seemed to be the main issue of contention that people had
02:10:26midknight2k3the Fx buttons
02:12:11IRCMonkey___ok i am done uploading... what did u want me to look at for the radio
02:12:35midknight2k3menu - info - debug - fm radio
02:13:02IRCMonkey___no section for fm radio
02:13:42midknight2k3youre running old build
02:14:22IRCMonkey___where do i find that
02:14:43midknight2k3what version are you running.
02:14:46IRCMonkey___yep 2.1
02:16:09midknight2k3get a daily build
02:17:22IRCMonkey___should i go with the newest?
02:17:39IRCMonkey___and just remove my current one right?
02:17:49midknight2k3overwrite it
02:17:54midknight2k3oh and video player
02:17:55midknight2k3WOO WOO
02:18:02midknight2k3ROCKBOX WOO
02:19:36IRCMonkey___okay loaded the new one
02:20:20midknight2k3menu - info - debug - fm radio
02:21:06IRCMonkey___doh hw not detected :(
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02:21:38midknight2k3at least videos will work
02:23:15IRCMonkey___hell yeah man... well i thank you yet again
02:24:37midknight2k3if you want video help i can
02:24:54IRCMonkey___what do i do?
02:25:04IRCMonkey___why not, i am only delaying work :)
02:25:12midknight2k3lol if you have to go its ok...
02:25:19midknight2k3if not i can walk you through it
02:25:40IRCMonkey___well lets give it a shot
02:25:48midknight2k3ok sec
02:28:47midknight2k3youll need a program that can convert a format to 112x64 avi
02:29:15IRCMonkey___okay i got premiere
02:29:38IRCMonkey___just save off as an avi @ 112x64
02:29:39midknight2k3ok use that to encode your video to uncompressed AVI format that's 112x64 pixels
02:29:45midknight2k3uncompressed yes
02:29:47midknight2k3and if you can
02:29:58IRCMonkey___whew thats awful rez
02:29:59midknight2k3set the pixel... whats it called
02:30:10midknight2k3PIXEL RATIO
02:30:12midknight2k3to .8
02:30:17midknight2k3yeah but its not bad
02:30:20IRCMonkey___aahh point 8
02:30:36IRCMonkey___i work in dv so i think i got this one covered
02:30:46midknight2k3i say woohoo too much
02:30:52IRCMonkey___i say lol too much
02:30:57midknight2k3no, i do
02:31:40IRCMonkey___hey man i gotta go do an edit... u on here often?
02:31:50midknight2k3i'll be here for a while
02:31:53midknight2k3and yeah almost every day
02:32:06IRCMonkey___sweet man... thanks again for your help... btw my name is tony
02:32:11IRCMonkey___i am sure i will be buggin u another time
02:32:15midknight2k3lol ok
02:32:20IRCMonkey___i probably wont always be IRCMonkey
02:32:28IRCMonkey___later man
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16:28:08casperzis english only here? cuz most of you speak german ;) ?
16:30:12casperzive just a little question:
16:31:56casperzmy batteries are quite empty. so i plug the charging unit. if i plug my (charging) rockbox to USB the background light flickers and it turns off...
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16:35:44casperzmhmm seems working now
16:36:00casperzwhat about a rockbox for the archos ondio sp?
16:39:16methangasis that one of the newer models?
16:39:51methangasbecause the faq explicitely tells there won't be rockbox for any other kind than players, recorders and the FM'ers
16:40:05methangasunless of course a army of coders volunteer
16:43:32casperzhas archos ever contacted the rockbox team?
16:44:35methangasask them
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17:42:34Lunamanxhello, I just got the recorder about 30min ago
17:42:38Lunamanxwhat should i do??
17:42:48Lunamanxit's being charged
17:43:13pfavrhi Lunamanx
17:43:19pfavris it a brand new one?
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17:47:34pfavrhi matsl: are you in Stockholm?
17:56:52pfavrso am I
17:57:01pfavrone of the developers?
17:57:13pfavr(I didn't contribute to rockbox so far)
17:57:25matslsort of. haven't done much lately
17:57:57pfavrok, it is also working so nicely - not so much remains to be done I think
17:58:05matslkjer and i have done some partsof the player character stuff.
17:58:48pfavrOk. Do you know the other rockbox developers who live in Stockholm?
17:59:18matslyes. we r a bunch at my company,contactor
17:59:45pfavrAh, ok - I have been looking at
18:00:18pfavrHope to meet you in RL someday
18:00:26pfavr(and the others as well)
18:00:56matslyour welcome
18:01:30pfavrwhat is a good place to buy electronics in Stockholm - like e.g. a USB2.0 pcmcia card?
18:02:00pfavr(or a 802.11 antenna extension cable)
18:02:42matsli really don't know. i buy most stuff through my company.
18:02:56pfavrok :)
18:03:48matslpfavr: nice talking to you. i must go now for some floor ball. happy hacking with rockbox n cu!
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18:12:43pfavrMT: nice (and faaast website)
18:15:00Lunamanxsorry, i got busy
18:15:07Lunamanxback now for little while
18:15:15Lunamanxyes, it's a brand new one right out of box
18:15:48pfavrLunamanx: what model?
18:16:11Lunamanxi just downloaded the rockbox software and as soon as i have some juice in the player, i'll be putting it in
18:16:21Lunamanxit's a the recorder
18:16:29Lunamanxit says it's version 2.0
18:16:38Lunamanxspecial edition??
18:16:54LunamanxArchos Jukebox recorder 2.0
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18:24:07pfavris it this one:
18:24:32Lunamanxyes sir
18:24:39Lunamanxit just got it from the amazon
18:25:04pfavrok - I have this one:
18:25:05Lunamanxfor $$129, can't beat it
18:25:24pfavrI don't know if they're the same though
18:25:33Lunamanxi don't have that one
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18:26:01pfavrWe'll know in a short while if the new one rocks (runs rockbox that is)
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18:26:42pfavrmaybe it is even more stable - hardware wise - the predecessor is not something I would call rock solid
18:26:53Lunamanxam i the first one to try rocking with the recorder 2.0?
18:27:31pfavrLunamanx: I don't know
18:27:39Lunamanxwell, we'll see
18:27:42pfavrI don't know that many rockbox owners
18:27:47Lunamanxi gonna dome some reading for now
18:28:00pfavrHave you owned one of the previous models?
18:28:17Lunamanxmy first time
18:28:19pfavrIt is really easy installing rockbox
18:28:32Lunamanxand it's going to be used mainly for audio books when driving
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18:28:38LunamanxBe Right Back
18:28:39pfavryou just unzip the .zip-file and put the contents on the archos
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19:09:50Davel23Anyone about?
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19:11:21Davel23Anyone about?
19:13:30pfavrDavel23: yeah?
19:13:54Davel23I need some help flashing my recorder, can anyone help?
19:14:15pfavrI did flash mine... but it is a while ago
19:14:26pfavrI just followed the instructions
19:15:09Davel23I'm following the instructions too, but when I try to run the firmware_flash.rock plugin it says "wrong plugin". I think I have the right version though.
19:15:36pfavris it the 2.1 release?
19:16:28Davel23Yeah. I can run it from the HD fine, I just want to get it into ROM. I'm assuming that the "wrong plugin" refers to the version of the firmware_flash.rock file, not the Rockbox firmware.
19:16:46pfavrI'm not sure
19:16:57Davel23Ok. Thanks for trying.
19:17:08pfavrthe firmware you run from your harddrive is the same you want to flash?
19:17:11Davel23When are most people usually on the channel?
19:17:33pfavrAnd you're sure you don't have other versions lying around on you archos?
19:17:40pfavr(I had a problem with that once)
19:17:58Davel23Nope. I just got it yesterday, and it's the only one I've put on it so far.
19:18:10pfavrI think in order to flash it
19:18:19pfavryou first dump the original flash contents to a file
19:18:23pfavrdid you do that?
19:19:19pfavrwhat version is it you jukebox? is it this one?
19:20:14Davel23No, it's this one:
19:20:43pfavroh nice!
19:20:51Davel23Yeah, it's pretty cool.
19:21:01pfavrsomebody just asked about installing rockbox on this newer model
19:21:12pfavrI couldn't tell him if it worked or not - now I know
19:21:26pfavrSo the next problem is flashing it
19:21:31Davel23I think it's supposed to be the V2, and there's specific files for that model, which are what I'm using.
19:21:52pfavrdid you check out the rom version / I mean: if the flash is flashable?
19:22:30Davel23It seems to be, according to the instructions. There are no question marks on the screen when I check the hardware info screen.
19:22:56pfavrwell I'm out of ideas
19:23:27Davel23Well again, thanks for trying. When are most users around? In the evening? A lot of the developers are from Europe, right?
19:23:29pfavrmaybe it is just not possible flashing the new model (yet) using the plugin from 2.1
19:23:53pfavrmaybe you need some cvs version
19:23:58pfavr(of everything)
19:25:02Davel23Well, in the meantime I can just continue running it from the HD.
19:25:22pfavryou could try out a cvs version as well (on your harddrive)
19:25:34pfavrif you think it is good (stable) you could try to flash that
19:25:39pfavr(in a week or so)
19:26:08Davel23I might do that, thanks for the suggestion. Anyway, I better get going. See you later
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19:27:13Bluechipanyone here know anything about USB and Windoze?
19:29:11Bluechipcome to that, anyone here? lol
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19:56:26\\daniel\\hi, i need help to unlock my seagate ata drive
20:02:28\\daniel\\the atapwd didn't work in my seagate
20:03:33hardeepthat's the only way I know about... maybe try the Linux boot disk?
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20:13:35\\daniel\\I will try
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21:57:22Lunamanxwell, i'm rocking with my recorder and it's pretty cool
21:57:38Lunamanxi tried to flash but failed using v2
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21:58:09Lunamanxwhen running firmware_flash.rock, it's says 'wrong plug in'
21:58:17Lunamanxanyone with any idea?
22:01:02scott666play the ajz first, then run the rock
22:01:15scott666if that doesnt work, try with a daily build
22:02:48Lunamanxsame message after runing ajz
22:02:53Lunamanxi'll try the dail build
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22:33:39Lunamanxit worked like a charm
22:33:44Lunamanxthx scott666
22:34:38Lunamanxnow just tell that guy Davel23 when/if he comes back
22:34:54Lunamanxit starts so much faster
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23:05:49trackhi linusn
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23:09:05trackwhats new?
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23:21:40LinusNtrying to fix the ATA optimization problems
23:29:25LinusNdifficult, as usual, since I don't have a device that exhibits the problem
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23:30:21trackmine does not show any ATA Probs
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23:38:40LinusNtrack: using the latest daily?
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23:42:54LinusNok, nm then
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