#rockbox 2004-03-04

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#rockbox log for 2004-03-04

00:22:40		Nick edx{code} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EABAC3.dip.t-dialin.net)
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00:30:47		Join Dacarlo [0] (Dacarlo@82-43-89-227.cable.ubr08.croy.blueyonder.co.uk)
00:31:14	Dacarlo	Hi anyone around?
00:31:19	midknight2k3	hi
00:31:59	Dacarlo	Yeah Im looking for the actual original flash ROM image files for the Rockbox recorder 10.
00:32:09	Dacarlo	My backup was trashed :-(
00:32:48	Dacarlo	Just wondering if someone here still has theirs backed up and can DCC it to me.
00:33:13	midknight2k3	i don't, but what was the rom version? 1.28?
00:33:17	midknight2k3	1.27?
00:33:57	Dacarlo	yeah 1.27 I got the ajz files but I want to flash the chips back to Archo's version. Im missing the bin files.
00:34:25	midknight2k3	don't need them
00:34:33	midknight2k3	got 1.27 ajz?
00:34:41	Dacarlo	Yeo
00:34:43	Dacarlo	yep
00:34:53	midknight2k3	i can help you make a UCL out of them to flash that
00:34:57	midknight2k3	no difference
00:35:42	Dacarlo	So when it boots it wont show rockbox logo n stuff? Reason is its a faulty unit and Im sending it back to Archos. But if ya can help thats great.
00:41:51	midknight2k3	yes, i probably
00:41:52	midknight2k3	can
00:42:09	Dacarlo	So whats involved?
00:42:41	midknight2k3	i can walk you through it, or you can send it to me and have me do it
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01:22:38		Nick amiconn\|code is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7F502.dip.t-dialin.net)
01:22:58	midknight2k3	amiconn hi
01:23:02	midknight2k3	hows your bitswap patch
01:23:21	amiconn	hi midknight2k3
01:24:02	amiconn	my bitswap patch is already committed by [IDC]Dragon. Yeah!
01:24:25	midknight2k3	is it good?
01:24:38	midknight2k3	what does it do exactly? faster buffering or somesuch?
01:25:35	amiconn	The problem with the archos is that the mp3 decoder chip expects the bits of every byte in the reverse order than they are in the file
01:26:12	amiconn	therefore the bits of all bytes have to be swapped in order to be played by the chip
01:26:23	midknight2k3	oh
01:26:23	midknight2k3	cool
01:27:42	amiconn	I've improved that routine, 14% faster now (real world figures). This gives more time to other tasks and saves (a little) battery power.
01:28:22	amiconn	but I guess my ata speedup has to wait until the mystery with some disks is solved :(
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01:28:45	midknight2k3	wake hi
01:28:55	midknight2k3	what mystery?
01:29:14	wake	hi
01:29:28	midknight2k3	i remember you wake
01:30:12	amiconn	midknight2k3: Some disks are apparently either not fast enough (or not configured to be fast enough)
01:30:35	wake	yeah, i hang out here sometimes, even though my archos has been broken since january
01:30:48	amiconn	to handle the new speedy routines and give errors, which leads to file system corruption.
01:32:32	midknight2k3	yay
01:39:36	amiconn	Nite all
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05:29:05	Guest1	hello?
05:29:14	Guest1	please register me?
05:29:27	Guest1	hello.. is anyone here
05:29:28	Guest1	i need help
05:29:31	Guest1	can anyone see this
05:29:52	dwihno	Yes?
05:30:03	Guest1	is this the chat for rockbox?
05:30:10	dwihno	You bet! :)
05:30:15	Guest1	awesome
05:30:18	Guest1	uhmm.. i need some help
05:30:26	Guest1	i have an archos jukebox recorder 15
05:30:46	Guest1	and i downloaded the rockbox firmware stuff.. and i dont get how to install it on my mp3 player :S
05:30:58	dwihno	well
05:31:01	dwihno	it's quite easy
05:31:09	dwihno	just unzip the archive onto the disk
05:31:14	dwihno	(the root of it)
05:31:16	Guest1	i cant find the "root" thingy
05:31:24	dwihno	Well, where do you put your mp3s?
05:32:00	Guest1	i dunno.. i plug the mp3 player into the usb.. and Jukebox (g) pops up.....
05:32:06	Guest1	and i put my files in there
05:32:09	dwihno	G: ?
05:32:19	dwihno	Just unzip the archive directly to g:\
05:32:49	dwihno	It will unzip the firmware executable along with the .rockbox dir, containing languages, plugins ("rocks") and so forth
05:33:25	Guest1	i dont get it!~~~!!!
05:33:40	Guest1	i downloaded it.. and now there is a folder on the desktop...
05:33:44	dwihno	Do you know how to handle .zip archives?
05:33:48	Guest1	and i put the folder into g...
05:33:57	Guest1	i dunno if i do..
05:34:22	dwihno	What OS do you use?
05:34:26	dwihno	Windows XP?
05:34:47	Guest1	yes
05:34:49	dwihno	okay
05:34:55	dwihno	then there is built in zip support
05:34:57	dwihno	open the file
05:35:00	dwihno	mark everything
05:35:01	Guest1	ok
05:35:06	dwihno	open the jukebox in an additional window
05:35:13	Guest1	ok
05:35:26	dwihno	drag'n'drop the contents of the archive to the jukebox
05:35:35	dwihno	(directly in the root directory of g:)
05:35:52	Guest1	thats the thing.. i dont see any root directory thingy
05:36:04	Guest1	all i have is folders... of the artists names.. and their music.
05:36:38	dwihno	By root directory, I mean the base folder where the folders are stored
05:36:43	dwihno	the "top level", so to speak
05:36:57	Guest1	Jukebox (g) ??
05:37:01	dwihno	indeed :)
05:37:05	Guest1	so just put it into jukebox...
05:37:27	Guest1	ok..
05:37:32	Guest1	now turn it off and thenb ack on?
05:37:55	dwihno	You DO "unplug" the unit before disconnecting it?
05:38:01	Guest1	ya
05:38:03	dwihno	Using the "safe hardware removal" thingy
05:38:10	dwihno	Ok
05:38:13	dwihno	Then do so.
05:38:24	Guest1	sweet
05:38:26	Guest1	it worked
05:38:43	Guest1	so whats the difference betweeen this and the one that was already on here
05:38:53	Guest1	woahh.. faster huh?
05:39:07	dwihno	Well.
05:39:24	dwihno	It's entirely like a night and day experience, if you ask me.
05:39:35	dwihno	The key word is customizable.
05:39:42	Guest1	the first thing ive noticed.. is... its wayyy faster
05:40:17	dwihno	You can use different fonts, configure how to display how MP3s are being displayed (the so-called WPS), different kind of timeouts, to name a few
05:40:36	dwihno	http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/features.html
05:40:38	dwihno	There.
05:40:44	dwihno	It explains everything.
05:41:14	dwihno	The playlist loading is one of my favorites.
05:41:23	Guest1	how do i play the games
05:41:27	dwihno	Press F1
05:41:42	dwihno	There should be a menu with "plugins"
05:42:12	Guest1	sweet!!!
05:43:59	dwihno	Well. Yes :)
05:45:32	Guest1	can you listen to music and play games at the same time?
05:46:25	dwihno	yup
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05:47:03	dwihno	\o/ mission accomplished \o/
05:47:13	Guest1	whats id3
05:47:55	dwihno	Meta-information stored in the file
05:48:01	dwihno	Such as artist, song name, album etc.
05:48:18	Guest1	dude.. this is awesome!!!!
05:48:28	Guest1	are there any other hacks for jukebox out there on the web?
05:49:31	dwihno	Hacks?
05:49:36	dwihno	You mean alternative firmwares?
05:49:40	dwihno	None that I know of.
05:49:44	Guest1	oh i see
05:49:46	dwihno	This is not a hack
05:49:50	dwihno	This is a complete firmware rewrite
05:49:57	Guest1	whats disk spindown?
05:50:22	dwihno	When navigating the disk, the disk will spin down after X seconds of inactivity
05:50:47	dwihno	http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/manual.pdf <−− that's the manual
05:56:50	Guest1	THIS IS SOO COOL!!!!
05:57:00	Guest1	dude... props to whoever made this!!
05:59:04	dwihno	Well, the core are Linus, Bj�rn and Daniel. They are TEH r0xx! ;D
05:59:11	dwihno	They made everything happen.
05:59:22	dwihno	I think Daniel started the project.
05:59:40	Guest1	ha... im surprised this is free
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06:00:51	dwihno	Well, if you feel like giving money, there is a paypal account on the website.
06:01:12	Guest1	im poor
06:01:45	dwihno	Then just sit back, and enjoy the ride :D
06:02:28	Guest1	this game is hard!!!
06:02:40	dwihno	Which one?
06:02:53	Guest1	where you have to get all of the "o's"
06:02:58	dwihno	(?)
06:02:58	MT	its not only free, its open source :)
06:03:07	dwihno	\o/ open source \o/
06:06:28	Guest1	k.. whats the best thing.. or feature.. that i dont know about.. i dont have time to read the manual
06:06:43	MT	the best feature is the manual
06:07:25	dwihno	Use the interface, and when a question arises, simply check the manual.
06:07:36	dwihno	The WPS and font stuff is DA shiznat.
06:07:47	Guest1	no idea what that is
06:08:00	Guest1	crap.. lol how do i browse my files
06:08:25	MT	the best feature is that everything that is physically possible with the archos that any of 100 or more people who have written code for rockbox wanted, probably exists in rockbox
06:08:26	Guest1	ohhhh.. i press on???
06:09:19	dwihno	MT: are there ~100 contributors? Impressive.
06:09:29	dwihno	The power of open source compels you! :D
06:09:29	Guest1	im sooo bad...
06:09:39	Guest1	im using my mp3 player to cheat on my math test tommorow
06:09:55	MT	well theres 60+ in credits
06:09:56	Guest1	lol... i recorded myself saying all the answers...
06:10:05	Guest1	then tommorow i will "listen to music".. in class
06:10:16	dwihno	CheatBox? :)
06:10:24	Guest1	lol you know it
06:10:33	MT	its people like you that mean i cant listen to music in my exams :o/
06:10:36	Guest1	is there any way of viewing typed documents on here
06:10:43	MT	of course
06:10:52	Guest1	really???? how?
06:10:52	MT	you cant check your email yet
06:10:56	MT	but im working on it
06:11:03	MT	type it into a text file
06:11:05	Guest1	wait.. your the one who made this ??
06:11:06	MT	and then play it
06:11:21	MT	i have made bits of pieces for my own delectation
06:11:31	MT	none of them have made it into the main source code tree :/
06:11:34	Guest1	bows down to mt
06:11:46	MT	erm..
06:12:00	MT	ive done very little, but appreciate the beauty of open source :)
06:12:49	Guest1	does this firmware ever freeze up or anything
06:12:53	Guest1	have any bugs in it?
06:13:11	MT	just a few
06:13:25	MT	much less than original archos
06:15:00	dwihno	Which is a great thing \o/ :)
06:15:29	dwihno	I wound up buying the archos' just because of rockbox... Back then, there was not even audio on the recorder models, and the fat driver was flaky
06:15:41	dwihno	there's a swedish saying... "att k�pa grisen i s�cken"
06:15:56	dwihno	Which basically means, what you get, is what you get :)
06:16:21	Guest1	how do you delete a folder on here.....
06:16:27	Guest1	from the actual jukebox
06:16:32	MT	i just bought another damn archos because of rockbox ;)
06:17:07	dwihno	MT: which model?
06:17:27	dwihno	Guest1: I don't think recursive directory deletion is implemented.
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06:20:51	MT	recorder v2 :/
06:20:56	dwihno	:/
06:21:03	MT	im importing it from america however, so at least it will be cheap
06:21:19	dwihno	I hate units with non-standard batteries.
06:21:21	MT	~50% of uk cost
06:21:30	MT	yeah, I had the FM before that
06:21:54	MT	not only the battery, the hard drive is so tricky to get to
06:21:59	MT	real pita
06:22:19	Guest1	ha.. that sounds weird.. importing it from america...
06:22:38	Guest1	<american boy <−−−−−−−−−−−−−−-
06:23:28	dwihno	The v2 uses custom batts as well?
06:24:07	Guest1	whats debug...
06:24:13	Guest1	should i not go into that section ?
06:24:30	MT	the v2 == fm recorder with no radio
06:24:34	dwihno	ah
06:24:52	MT	some of the early ones did actually have the radio in them, but disabled in firmware
06:24:52	Guest1	arcos needs to put a turning dial volumn thingy on their mp3 players
06:24:56	dwihno	debug = misc. information, not that useful to the average user.
06:25:02	Guest1	that would make it alot easier.. don tyou think?
06:25:32	MT	easier to break
06:25:52	Guest1	is there a way to boot up the original firmware thingy....
06:26:13	Guest1	from the arcos... without having to delete the new firmware... ya know... choose which one to start up?
06:27:36	MT	you can put a copy of the original firmware on the disk
06:27:37	Guest1	so my arcos jukebox recorder 15... would you consider that an older mp3.... or is it still good compared to other mp3 players?
06:27:44	MT	and then play it
06:27:50	MT	and it will load archos firmware
06:27:57	MT	its pretty old now
06:28:06	Guest1	oh ya?
06:28:08	MT	large, small hard disk, usb 1
06:28:22	MT	not a very good screen
06:28:23	Guest1	i havent seen many mp3 players with such a big harddrive though
06:28:30	MT	15 gb?
06:28:34	Guest1	ya
06:28:42	MT	heck, ive seen flash players with almost that capacity
06:28:50	Guest1	really?
06:28:58	Guest1	those are the ones that have the little cards on them?
06:29:04	MT	(lies, 4.5GB is the largest flash player)
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06:29:24	Guest1	i thought those little flash cards were mostly like 128 mb.. and 256 mb
06:30:17	Guest1	how many mb in a gig?
06:30:44	dwihno	MT: Are you SURE it's a flash based player? I mean, there's some new kind of hard drive which is really small...
06:30:53	dwihno	MT: the largest flash player is 1 gbyte
06:31:48	dwihno	That's what I've seen
06:32:15	Guest1	wait.. so the batterys actualy last longer with rock box... hows that?
06:32:18	MT	maybe it was 1.5GB
06:32:32	MT	we use the battery more efficiently
06:33:29	Guest1	this is sweet
06:33:30	Guest1	awesome
06:33:37	Guest1	k so i think im going to go study my math...
06:33:46	dwihno	Some of the time critical stuff has been optimized as well, such as bit flipping
06:33:47	Guest1	and then ill let another kid use my arcos.. to cheat.. and have him pay me!!!!!
06:34:03	dwihno	Which shouldn't be a requirement at all :)
06:34:32	dwihno	Goddamn endianness
06:34:38	Guest1	thanks for helping me
06:34:39	Guest1	see ya
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10:38:30	Guest	can someone help me with battery issues
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21:33:33	c0utta	hey zagor
21:33:45	Zagor	hi
21:34:28	c0utta	can you use ms word to contribute to the manual ?
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21:36:29	c0utta	aren't the file formats the same ?
21:36:49	Zagor	no they're not. openoffice can read word files, but the oo format is clean xml
21:37:09	Zagor	so yes and no :-)
21:37:09	c0utta	bummer
21:37:23	c0utta	i'll download oo at work today
21:37:38	Zagor	you can probably still send text to david written in msword though. just not load the existing text.
21:38:06	Zagor	ah, you're in au. today just started for you :-)
21:38:06	c0utta	true. i want to rewrite the flashing pasrt of the manual
21:38:26	c0utta	yes. feeding kids. ready to go to work.
21:38:56	c0utta	i can't believe the number of questions about flashing. i found the process SO simple
21:39:07	Zagor	yeah. but the text can be a bit confusing.
21:39:26	c0utta	true. that's why you get a user to write a manual not a developer
21:39:38	c0utta	no offence to [idc] tho
21:40:07	c0utta	i'll email david - i've never seen him in here
21:40:16	Zagor	do so
21:41:12	c0utta	have a good night
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23:08:58	Sebulba02	When trying to flash & getting "No images found", what exactly am I missing?
23:09:23	quelsaruk	do you have the .ucl file?
23:09:38	Sebulba02	I'm trying to play it and thats all it gives me.
23:09:52	Sebulba02	(Yes)
23:09:55	quelsaruk	:)
23:09:56	quelsaruk	ummm
23:10:27	quelsaruk	i suppose that you're running an up-to-date rockbox version with the flash plugin instaled and so on..
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23:10:43	Sebulba02	I just compiled it off CVS 5 mins ago.
23:11:12	Sebulba02	(So, yes)
23:11:24	quelsaruk	then.. i have no idea, sorry :(
23:11:51	Sebulba02	No biggie.
23:12:02	quelsaruk	write a mail to the list, or to [idc]dragon, or ask him if he comes later
23:12:24	Sebulba02	I could search the list also, forgot about it.
23:13:05	quelsaruk	:)
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23:17:47	Sebulba02	Ahh, it all makes sense now.
23:18:48	quelsaruk	what?
23:18:51	quelsaruk	hi Bagder :)
23:18:58	quelsaruk	nice to see you again
23:19:01	Bagder	howdy ho
23:19:12	Sebulba02	http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-08/0117.shtml
23:19:21	quelsaruk	(at least now that i'm uptodate with the languages)
23:19:33	Bagder	hehe
23:20:23	quelsaruk	Sebulba02, ups.. i thought you wanted to upgrade the flash :)
23:20:29	Sebulba02	Heh
23:20:48	Sebulba02	& I thought I tried that already.
23:20:49	quelsaruk	Bagder, i have a question.. can a fire?
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23:21:03	*	Bagder holds on to his chair, shoot!
23:22:18	quelsaruk	i wanted to mod the lcd_put_scroll_style() so that it only writes down what fits in the screen, so i can have a big text in a splash window and scroll it
23:22:51	quelsaruk	but all i got was the simulator crashing...
23:23:00	quelsaruk	um...
23:23:08	quelsaruk	any fresh ideas?
23:23:19	Bagder	yes: you may have made a bug
23:23:22	Bagder	:-P
23:23:32	Bagder	seriously: not really
23:23:33	quelsaruk	i killed 2 goats!!!
23:24:12	quelsaruk	i tried using the... i cant remember the function's name...
23:24:44	quelsaruk	anyway...
23:25:23	quelsaruk	if you're not to busy.. would you mind taking a look to lcd_put_scroll_style() to see if you can do that?
23:25:41	Bagder	I am busy atm
23:25:45	quelsaruk	ok
23:25:47	quelsaruk	no prob
23:25:57	quelsaruk	i'll continue trying :)
23:26:00	quelsaruk	thx anyway
23:26:03	Bagder	but I think your goal is worthy
23:26:49	quelsaruk	it's for a splash menu
23:27:10	quelsaruk	also linus wanted to use that function for the new F2/3 menus...
23:27:11	Bagder	the regular splash could use such a modification too
23:27:22	Sebulba02	Well, thanks :)
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23:28:36	quelsaruk	so the splash window doesn't use all the screen width, or supporting really big words
23:29:27	Bagder	it uses the whole width, but it doesn't support long words
23:30:06	quelsaruk	yes.. but a splash window using the whole width is not cool enough :)
23:30:35	Bagder	hehe
23:30:41	Bagder	it is simple to modify it to use less
23:30:54	quelsaruk	i know
23:30:55	quelsaruk	:P
23:31:20	quelsaruk	hmm a programming style question...
23:31:21	quelsaruk	:)
23:32:23	Bagder	shoot
23:34:15	quelsaruk	if i'm changing a function that is something like function(var1, var2) to function(var1,var2,var3)... should i search the code and modify all the calls, or can i create a new function called function_style(var1,var2,var3), so the function(var1,var2) call that new function with a default value for var3 ???
23:34:37	quelsaruk	the last option means adding more code.. but easier to implement the changes :)
23:35:35	Bagder	I'd say it depends if it makes sense to have two functions or not
23:35:50	Bagder	I wouldn't do it just to avoid changing many places
23:36:13	quelsaruk	lcd_setmargins()
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23:38:01	quelsaruk	for the lcd_put_scroll_style(), i'm using a new variable called display_width that tells the scroll function how long can the text be.. or when do we now if we have to really scroll.
23:39:21	quelsaruk	so i changed the lcd_setmargins() to include a new variable that controls if we have a splash menu (or window) or not, to use all the display or just part of it
23:40:05	Bagder	I think the two-func approach could work
23:40:47	quelsaruk	i used that approach, but did not know if the code police would hunt me later for that ;)
23:51:41	quelsaruk	time to go! cu
23:51:50	Bagder	night
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