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00:03:06 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Down to 5 mispronounced clips now. If I replace "Loudness" with "Klangkorrektur" this would circumvent another one. |
00:04:03 | [IDC]Dragon | the german term is "gehörrichtige Lautstärkeeinstellung" |
00:04:18 | [IDC]Dragon | what a monster |
00:04:38 | amiconn | Yes, that's why I suggested "Klangkorrektur" |
00:04:59 | [IDC]Dragon | which doen't mean too much... |
00:05:32 | mattzz | why not keep "Laudness"? |
00:05:54 | mattzz | isn't that common sense in german, too? |
00:06:40 | amiconn | mattzz: I think we agree to not introduce deliberate misspellings into the .lang files, at least not the official versions. |
00:07:00 | mattzz | ok |
00:07:59 | amiconn | (Of course I can (and will) do that locally, but as I'm lazy, I want to keep the number of local changes down) |
00:08:15 | [IDC]Dragon | pleylist, beit, hihi |
00:09:05 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm surprised it doesn't know about gigabyte |
00:09:14 | amiconn | Perhaps I will rewrite the lang2wav in vbs and let it apply a "replacement list" along the go. This can be done in TextAloud in a similar way. |
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00:12:49 | midk | hello |
00:12:59 | [IDC]Dragon | hi |
00:13:30 | mattzz | [IDC]Dragon: what do I have to do to register a function in the plugin api? only edit plugin.h and plugin.c, right? (I added a checkbox widget to recorder/widgets and want to test it in a plugin - no go) |
00:14:25 | LinusN | mattzz: adding it in plugin.[ch] should be enough |
00:14:48 | LinusN | what didn't work? |
00:15:05 | midk | mm this fade on next and prev sounds sort of cool |
00:15:10 | [IDC]Dragon | mattzz: also increment the API version number |
00:15:23 | mattzz | LinusN: checkbox doesnt show up.... |
00:15:36 | [IDC]Dragon | (not strictly necessary for local tests) |
00:16:03 | mattzz | LinusN: seems to be a basic problem at this point of time ;-) |
00:17:08 | midk | actually a checkbox would be a good idea |
00:17:19 | midk | if you could pass it a bool |
00:17:37 | mattzz | midk: checkbox(int x, int y, bool checked); |
00:17:41 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: The following words have to be misspelt to be voiced correctly in german: dezibell, laudness, numehrisch, firmwers, beit |
00:17:52 | midk | mattzz: maybe an x2 and y2? |
00:18:05 | mattzz | midk: what for? |
00:18:10 | midk | to stretch it |
00:18:13 | midk | if you want it small or big |
00:18:33 | mattzz | midk: dynamic bitmap generation? |
00:18:45 | mattzz | midk: uh... |
00:18:57 | midk | i suppose.. you can do it with the scrollbars and progressbars |
00:19:10 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: with misspellings, we could maybe rescue the "playlist" which I had to replace by "Absspielliste", the difficult-to-spell word. |
00:19:32 | [IDC]Dragon | see, it's really too difficult for me ;-) |
00:19:34 | amiconn | Yes, even now ;-) |
00:19:45 | mattzz | midk: the idea is ok. currently this is a bitmap. but a box and two lines would do the same job. so scaling should be easy. |
00:19:54 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Should I do so? |
00:20:04 | midk | mattzz: sounds good |
00:20:11 | midk | i don't really need a sizer |
00:20:16 | midk | would just be somewhat nifty? |
00:20:21 | mattzz | sure |
00:20:25 | midk | what is the default size? |
00:20:28 | [IDC]Dragon | your decision, depends on how it sounds |
00:20:32 | mattzz | midk: 8x8 |
00:20:39 | midk | hmm |
00:20:44 | midk | ok thanks |
00:20:48 | midk | actually i want that |
00:20:49 | midk | :) |
00:23:46 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: The closest match to english is "pleh-list", but this still has some german accent... |
00:29:56 | mattzz | LinusN: do I have to add something to the simulator-code when I added a function in widgets.c? |
00:30:29 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: it reads definitely funny! |
00:30:43 | LinusN | mattzz: i don't think so, why? |
00:31:44 | [IDC]Dragon | goodnight folks! |
00:31:49 | midk | nite idc |
00:31:56 | amiconn | nite |
00:31:58 | mattzz | LinusN: things dont show up as I want them |
00:32:00 | mattzz | nite |
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00:33:44 | LinusN | mattzz: show me the code |
00:35:01 | mattzz | paste it here? |
00:36:09 | LinusN | if it's short |
00:37:03 | amiconn | LinusN: Could you put my german.voice on the web page? |
00:37:17 | LinusN | sure |
00:37:28 | mattzz | I'll better put the files on my webserver - that will not bother the other folks... ompls |
00:37:34 | amiconn | deutsch.voice, that is |
00:38:03 | amiconn | amiconn.dyndns.org/deutsch.voice">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/deutsch.voice |
00:39:51 | mattzz | LinusN: you will find plugin.[ch] widgets.[ch] and checkbox.c on mattzz.dyndns.org/archos/">http://mattzz.dyndns.org/archos/ |
00:41:58 | LinusN | amiconn: http://rockbox.haxx.se/lang/ |
00:42:58 | LinusN | mattzz: weird content type on those files (text/x-csrc) |
00:43:04 | amiconn | Thanks. |
00:43:59 | mattzz | LinusN: should be plain text/unix files :-o |
00:45:11 | LinusN | your web server says text/x-csrc, i suggest you use text/plain instead |
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00:48:32 | amiconn | LinusN: Just got an "ata error -71" on my recorder... |
00:49:24 | mattzz | LinusN: works on jbr20, but not on simulator |
00:49:29 | LinusN | mattzz: the checkbox works perfectly on the x11 sim |
00:49:32 | amiconn | ..after trying to connect USB, it didn't work because of too low battery level, so I pulled USB out again -> ata error. |
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00:50:10 | amiconn | Switched off, connected charger, switched on again -> works. Perhaps this could be added to the FAQ |
00:50:52 | LinusN | amiconn: or fix the bug... :-) |
00:51:18 | LinusN | mattzz: i guess you're using the win32 simulator? |
00:51:19 | mattzz | LinusN: argh. make clean in uisimulator/x11 was my friend. works now. thanks for your time |
00:51:34 | LinusN | mattzz: you're welcome |
00:51:39 | mattzz | LinusN: nope, running debian |
00:52:22 | amiconn | There is not much that can be fixed, only that a different message could be displayed, since the hard disk stops working if does not get enough juice. |
00:56:01 | LinusN | amiconn: did you insert the usb when the device was off? |
00:57:07 | amiconn | No, I switched it on and inserted usb while booting. Then I tried to access the drive from Win explorer, and -click- the explorer froze. |
00:57:24 | amiconn | Then I extracted the usb again -> ata error -71. |
00:58:03 | LinusN | ok |
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01:01:02 | mattzz | LinusN: should I put my few lines in widgets.[ch] into the patchtracker? |
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01:02:17 | LinusN | mattzz: i'm wondering if we want a resizable widget after all |
01:02:30 | LinusN | i think we do |
01:02:43 | mattzz | ok, then I will do that first |
01:03:32 | LinusN | so we can make it match the font size |
01:03:33 | amiconn | Could be nice for the icons as well, if using a large font. |
01:03:48 | mattzz | yup, absolutely |
01:03:57 | LinusN | amiconn: the icons are bitmaps... |
01:04:51 | amiconn | I know.. but has it to stay that way? |
01:05:16 | LinusN | not necessarily |
01:05:53 | amiconn | The icons might be vector graphics as well; another idea would be that they are just special characters in the font file (is that possible?) |
01:06:33 | LinusN | sure |
01:06:47 | LinusN | 0-31 should be free |
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01:45:37 | midk | amiconn: win32? |
01:47:44 | mattzz | LinusN: scaleable checkbox is ready |
01:48:09 | midk | oh yay |
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01:56:50 | midk | is it going to be merged soon or no? |
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02:00:29 | mattzz | yip?! |
02:00:38 | midk | i hope so |
02:00:44 | midk | then i can integrate it into my clock |
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02:07:32 | mattzz | patch is committed into patchtracker - gotta sleep now |
02:07:35 | mattzz | nite folx |
02:08:06 | midk | nite |
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02:08:10 | midk | ty |
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02:16:05 | amiconn | LinusN: Which english.voice variant is on the web page? I'm asking 'cause I made one with AT&T Crystal that says "resume" correctly. |
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02:16:42 | midk | woo scotty |
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02:18:15 | LinusN | amiconn: i don't know which one it is |
02:20:21 | amiconn | Would it be possible (read: desirable) to have various voice files for the same language? |
02:20:35 | LinusN | on the download page? |
02:20:38 | amiconn | Yup. |
02:20:56 | LinusN | i guess it would be nice |
02:21:26 | amiconn | I will put my english.voice on my web server, so you can try it out if you want. |
02:21:42 | scott666 | i had the thought of brittish/american english files, but it didnt really seem very useful |
02:24:30 | amiconn | amiconn.dyndns.org/english.voice.">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/english.voice. |
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02:26:39 | amiconn | With natural voices, british english would be possible, as well as indian accent english, latin america spanish and french in addition to the already available us english and german. |
02:27:05 | amiconn | Most of them are available as female and male voice, but who should buy all those voices? |
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02:29:56 | scott666 | someone, maybe rocker or glenn was offering to buy a liscense for rockbox a while ago... |
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02:38:55 | amiconn | gotta get some sleep now. |
02:39:15 | midk | nite |
02:39:25 | LinusN | nite amiconn |
02:39:25 | midk | yo linus woo |
02:39:25 | amiconn | nite |
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03:41:48 | diddystar5 | hi LinusN |
03:43:59 | LinusN | hi |
03:44:06 | LinusN | just going to bed... |
03:44:14 | midk | nite then |
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05:23:04 | hiroshi | who manages the webpage? |
05:30:40 | hiroshi | I have a problem, I really need to talk to them |
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05:54:02 | scott666 | hiroshi: Bagder i believe |
05:56:11 | hiroshi | know how I can contact him? |
05:59:07 | scott666 | hang around here for a couple days or email the mailing list |
05:59:28 | scott666 | whats your problem? IRC is logged so someone will find it eventually |
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06:00:41 | midk | what's happening? |
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06:05:53 | scott666 | midk: he apparenly has some problem with the website |
06:06:13 | midk | hmm well yeah the irc and mailing list would work |
06:06:19 | midk | you don't have to contact bagder directly |
06:07:31 | hiroshi | I kinda need to |
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09:06:23 | amiconn | morning |
09:10:05 | mattzz | amiconn: you don't need much sleep... |
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09:31:08 | LinusN | hiroshi: what's the problem? |
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10:28:25 | amiconn|work | LinusN: This morning I (re-)discovered a bug that may be a general problem in Rockbox. |
10:28:59 | dwihno | amiconn: let's hear. |
10:30:22 | amiconn|work | In the peak meter settings, the german translation for the unit postfix of the "peak release" setting is rather long ("units per read" = "Einheiten pro gelesenem Wert"). |
10:30:53 | amiconn|work | Together with the vakue itself this gives 32 characters, the size of the buffer. |
10:30:58 | amiconn|work | *value |
10:31:35 | LinusN | ooops |
10:32:03 | amiconn|work | While the use of snprintf() within set_int() guarantees that the buffer itself does not overflow, the trailing \0 is missing then. |
10:32:47 | amiconn|work | So it displays the correct word for a fraction of a second, then it displays "ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ". |
10:33:00 | amiconn|work | *words even |
10:33:53 | amiconn|work | Although I could fix this for this one case by abbreviating that monster, this situation could occur in other places too. |
10:34:37 | LinusN | suggestion? increase the buffer size? |
10:36:22 | amiconn|work | No, I don't think we should increase the buffer (that german monster isn't shown completely even with my small font, so abbreviating it will be sufficient). |
10:37:06 | amiconn|work | I wanted to point out that this situation could occur in other places too and we should take care of it. |
10:37:17 | dwihno | Perhaps the language generation software should produce a warning if the strings are too long? |
10:37:22 | dwihno | binlang, or whatever is used |
10:38:37 | LinusN | dwihno: good idea, but it is not water proof, since the length may increase because of printf formatting |
10:38:46 | amiconn|work | I'm thinking about a way to guarantee that there is always \0 at the end of strings. |
10:41:17 | amiconn|work | Perhaps we could just use snprintf(str, sizeof(str) -1, ...). This would require that the string itself is initalized to all zero. |
10:42:05 | dwihno | Perhaps a small buffer increase then? |
10:42:29 | LinusN | amiconn|work: do that |
10:46:01 | amiconn|work | LinusN: Are strings (static/ non-static) zero-initialized by default? |
10:48:17 | LinusN | static strings, yes |
10:49:55 | amiconn|work | Hmm, settings.c uses a non-static string for that. I think I should define a global static print buffer. |
10:54:07 | LinusN | don't |
10:54:25 | amiconn|work | Why not? |
10:55:04 | LinusN | it won't help you, since it's only initialized at boot |
10:57:58 | amiconn|work | This would suffice if it is used with snprintf(str, sizeof(str) - 1, ...) every time, since the \0 at the very end end would stay there all the time. |
10:59:09 | LinusN | ok |
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11:02:18 | mattzz | LinusN: have you been able to have a look at my checkbox-patch in the patchtracker? |
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11:11:37 | LinusN | mattzz: looks ok |
11:14:26 | dwihno | mattzz: checkbox-patch? |
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11:14:57 | mattzz | dwihno: I created a little checkbox widget |
11:16:08 | dwihno | mattzz: Neato! :D |
11:16:30 | dwihno | LinusN: Has there been any further talk about devcon? |
11:18:12 | [IDC]Dragon | how about modifying snprintf() in a way that it always writes a '\0' and the last position? |
11:18:24 | [IDC]Dragon | a/and/at |
11:19:41 | amiconn|work | [IDC]Dragon: Sure possible, but then it does not have the standard snprintf() behaviour any more. |
11:20:41 | [IDC]Dragon | I never understood why the standard is like that |
11:25:09 | amiconn|work | Ooops, I googled for snprintf() and found that there are different implementations. Some of them do what you suggested, so perhaps this would be the way to go. |
11:25:56 | [IDC]Dragon | the one I know pads all (why?) unused positions with \0 |
11:27:09 | [IDC]Dragon | in my code for other projects, I patched a \0 at the end, after each snprintf(), to safeguard this |
11:27:34 | [IDC]Dragon | fot for embedded, this is stupid code replication |
11:27:53 | [IDC]Dragon | s/fot/but |
11:28:11 | LinusN | dwihno: yes, we are discussing when to have it |
11:32:22 | dwihno | LinusN: Just le me know when it'll happen; it will be interesting. |
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11:52:43 | amiconn|work | [IDC]Dragon: Strange, I had a look at snprintf() used by rockbox - it looks like it does always put \0 at the end. |
11:53:02 | amiconn|work | I wonder what is going wrong then. |
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12:16:54 | amiconn|work | The error does not occur in the recorder sim... |
12:17:10 | LinusN | yes it does, but it isn't visible |
12:17:28 | LinusN | the problem is that the formatted string becomes exactly 32 bytes long |
12:21:29 | LinusN | so it puts the \0 *after* the buffer |
12:23:06 | ricflair | can i scandisk my jukebox recorder? |
12:23:11 | LinusN | ricflair: yes |
12:24:28 | LinusN | amiconn|work: one solution is to change the condition in sprfunc(): |
12:24:41 | LinusN | if(pr->bytes < pr->max-1) { |
12:29:16 | ricflair | is it wise to leave it pluuged into mains whilst using usb? |
12:30:08 | LinusN | ricflair: absolutely |
12:31:26 | ricflair | ok, ive done that, just want to make sure it wont loose power and die on me |
12:45:01 | ricflair | im getting a cyclic redundancy check when copying |
12:51:08 | ricflair | just disconnected and reconected usb cable and its ok now, strange |
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13:09:11 | amiconn|work | LinusN: I don't think that it puts \0 after the buffer, because the line that places the \0 reads: |
13:09:38 | amiconn|work | pr.ptr[ok?0:-1]='\0'; |
13:10:13 | amiconn|work | So if an overflow occurs, this is supposed to overwrite the last byte with \0 |
13:13:28 | LinusN | supposed to, yes |
13:13:58 | LinusN | but ok == true even if the buffer is full |
13:14:11 | amiconn|work | Ah oops |
13:14:23 | LinusN | <LinusN> the problem is that the formatted string becomes exactly 32 bytes long |
13:15:14 | amiconn|work | So it would work if the string is 33 bytes long? Then the implementation really needs rework. |
13:15:57 | LinusN | yes |
13:16:17 | LinusN | if(pr->bytes < pr->max-1) { would work |
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14:23:03 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN, r u there? |
14:24:30 | ricflair | hi guys, is there an easy way to rename all the mp3s in the jkebox to better naming ? |
14:26:54 | LinusN | i'm here |
14:27:03 | LinusN | "better naming"? |
14:42:04 | ricflair | yeah, i mean like is there a tool that renames your mp3 according to the names on cddv |
14:42:06 | ricflair | cddb even |
14:42:09 | ricflair | ther eused to be one |
14:42:31 | c0utta | ricflair: there are heaps |
14:43:12 | c0utta | MP3bookhelper (mp3bookhelper.sourceforge.net) |
14:43:22 | c0utta | ultratagger |
14:43:40 | c0utta | DrTag |
14:43:54 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/tools.html |
14:44:06 | c0utta | yeah, what linus said |
14:45:27 | c0utta | have you checked my code yet linus ? |
14:45:33 | LinusN | yes i have |
14:45:46 | LinusN | works ok, have only run it in the simulator yet |
14:45:48 | c0utta | do i still have some work to do ? |
14:46:10 | c0utta | it won't do anything without the keypad.map file either |
14:47:06 | LinusN | saw that |
14:47:37 | LinusN | i have some thoughts regarding the on+play menu (the to-be f3 menu) |
14:47:52 | c0utta | BTW, i did a build a few weeks ago and then had problems saving a CFG file |
14:48:01 | c0utta | it's ok now but it scared me |
14:48:08 | c0utta | anyway, your thoughts are ..? |
14:48:09 | ricflair | cheers linus |
14:48:14 | LinusN | today, we only show options that are relevant to the object under the cursor |
14:48:46 | LinusN | like, we don't show "Update VBR file" on non-mp3 files |
14:48:47 | c0utta | yes.. |
14:49:19 | c0utta | you're going to ask how i would accomplish this, aren't you ? |
14:49:38 | LinusN | well, i'm only brain-storming here |
14:51:44 | c0utta | i hadn't really thought about this very much. as you can see, i'm passing through the "context" that f2/f3 are pressed |
14:52:53 | ricflair | which util for renaming do you guys use? |
14:52:57 | c0utta | wps, recording, tree. it should be relatively easy to do, but we almost need a "file types" static |
14:53:09 | c0utta | ricflair: i use mp3bookhelper |
14:53:29 | ricflair | thanks. |
14:53:40 | c0utta | many rockbox people use godfather |
14:53:46 | ricflair | does it just tag them and not rename them(just worried incase it renames them wrong |
14:53:48 | ricflair | ) |
14:54:06 | c0utta | it does both if you want to |
14:54:47 | c0utta | mp3bookhelper does have an undo file file names |
14:55:16 | LinusN | gotta go away for a few mins |
14:55:50 | c0utta | when you get back you can answer a tree.c question |
14:59:53 | ricflair | coutta, can you just rename them straight to the jukebox or do you have to do it on your pc drive first |
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15:00:24 | c0utta | i have done it on the jukebox. takes longer because of usb, that's all |
15:01:14 | ricflair | cool |
15:01:36 | ricflair | if you tag an mp3, does it create a name file that the jukbox will read instead of the mp3 name? |
15:02:48 | c0utta | sorry, don't understand. any tagger will change the id3 tag and rename the file if you want. the jukebox will read the tag in the first instance |
15:03:00 | c0utta | if the tag isn't there, it will use the file name |
15:03:43 | ricflair | cool. |
15:03:44 | ricflair | thanks |
15:03:51 | c0utta | np |
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15:12:14 | ricflair | does your jukebox recorder get hot if you use it as a usb drive? |
15:12:38 | c0utta | hotter than usual but nothing to worry about |
15:13:11 | ricflair | ok, does it cool down pretty quick |
15:13:45 | c0utta | yes, it's just like any laptop drive |
15:14:00 | ricflair | ok, thats cool |
15:14:02 | c0utta | i had a toshiba laptop with the same drive that's in my jukebox (60gb) |
15:14:07 | ricflair | i worry too much |
15:14:15 | ricflair | ive only got the standard 20gb drive in min |
15:14:27 | ricflair | thinking about selling it though and getting the multimedia player |
15:14:34 | c0utta | my toshiba used to get so hot that toshiba released a warning about "1st degree burns" |
15:14:47 | ricflair | :) |
15:14:54 | c0utta | u mean a jbmm ? |
15:15:30 | ricflair | yeah |
15:15:40 | ricflair | cant decide if its actually worth it or not |
15:15:53 | c0utta | you can't use rockbox on a jbmm |
15:16:00 | c0utta | yet |
15:17:05 | ricflair | :( |
15:17:08 | ricflair | i think ill leave it then |
15:17:10 | ricflair | :) |
15:17:40 | ricflair | i might just wait untill i can afford the new one with full screen video |
15:36:48 | LinusN | c0utta: tree.c question? |
15:37:52 | c0utta | ok. i would like to know the current selection in the tree at all times. we spoke about this previously |
15:38:07 | c0utta | something like tree_current |
15:38:11 | LinusN | ah yes |
15:38:55 | c0utta | i have had trouble understanding tree.c. there are a lot of statics, but i still can't get it to work properly |
15:40:00 | ricflair | guys, ive just put my jukebox on charge, and it was turned on. A message in a box comes up saying battery charging but its filckering evry second or so. |
15:40:56 | LinusN | what is flickering? |
15:41:57 | ricflair | like the light is very weak. an on off type of thing, looks asif it goes off for a milisecond once evr second |
15:42:28 | c0utta | ricflair: is it flashed ? |
15:42:59 | ricflair | no, its the archos 1.26 firmware |
15:43:39 | LinusN | ricflair: still haven't fixed the battery connections? |
15:43:41 | c0utta | remove the power. turn off the jukebox. plug in the power. you should get the standard archos charging screen |
15:44:52 | ricflair | i think i might be using too small an attatchment for my archos |
15:46:13 | ricflair | infact, no thats definitly the right one |
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15:47:17 | quelsaruk | hi again |
15:47:47 | c0utta | hi there quelsaruk |
15:48:06 | quelsaruk | :) |
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15:56:26 | mattzz | LinusN: Is anybody going to commit the widget stuff? (Or should I ask Daniel for CVS access?) |
15:56:38 | LinusN | mattzz: i will, soon |
15:57:11 | * | mattzz is often called "the impatient one" |
15:57:26 | mattzz | LinusN: thanks |
15:57:32 | quelsaruk | what's that widget stuff?? |
15:59:14 | LinusN | mattzz: just curious, do you really want to return false if it has bad dimensions? |
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16:03:35 | mattzz | LinusN: you found it ;-) No, definitely not - the function is void and should stay void imho |
16:03:48 | LinusN | good, just wanted to check |
16:05:54 | c0utta | linus, i've solved my tree.c problem |
16:06:03 | c0utta | thanks for your interest |
16:06:04 | LinusN | c0utta: nice |
16:06:20 | c0utta | tree_currentfile will be a reality |
16:06:28 | quelsaruk | mattzz, could you explain me that widget stuff?? please |
16:06:30 | LinusN | wunderbar |
16:06:39 | LinusN | quelsaruk: a checkbox widget |
16:06:42 | c0utta | a german influence ? |
16:06:56 | LinusN | :-) |
16:07:17 | ricflair | linus, would the problem with the points that need soldering effect my battery time and also would it effect charging? |
16:07:38 | LinusN | it affects just about anything concerning the batteries |
16:07:54 | quelsaruk | LinusN, for the menus?? |
16:07:54 | LinusN | it may even kill your batteries over time |
16:08:01 | mattzz | quelsaruk: yup |
16:08:04 | LinusN | quelsaruk: yes, and for plugins |
16:08:10 | quelsaruk | ah :) |
16:08:11 | quelsaruk | great |
16:08:12 | quelsaruk | :P |
16:08:57 | ricflair | is the unit easy to open even for a heavy handed fool like myself? |
16:12:40 | LinusN | fairly, yes |
16:12:59 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/disassemble.html |
16:13:11 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/disassemble2.html |
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16:33:43 | quelsaruk | cu!! |
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16:54:40 | mattzz | gotta go, too - cu l8er |
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18:26:52 | Teja | hello every1.. |
18:27:07 | Teja | i need HELP..!! |
18:27:22 | Teja | ? |
18:27:34 | Teja | any1 there? |
18:27:36 | dwihno | Hej hej |
18:27:45 | dwihno | What problem do you have? |
18:28:06 | Teja | my archos FM doesn't work! |
18:28:20 | Teja | as in the power comez on.. |
18:28:44 | Teja | but then after that while the loading screen comez.. the bar gets stuck at about 1/3rd.. |
18:29:12 | dwihno | hm |
18:29:18 | Teja | n there is some intermitent noise... |
18:29:27 | dwihno | never heard of that erro |
18:29:28 | dwihno | r |
18:29:31 | Teja | i guess it the hard disk reading or something...! |
18:29:49 | Teja | it doezn't even work whn i try pluggin in the usb.... |
18:29:58 | Teja | n cant even access it through the pc.. |
18:30:08 | dwihno | You could ask LinusN - he's a certified hardware ninja |
18:30:28 | Teja | is he on right now..? any idea? |
18:31:12 | dwihno | Well, I would guess he isn't by his computer. |
18:31:41 | Teja | hmmm.... ok... thanks.. i'll just leave him a msg... |
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18:33:12 | User | hey does anybody know if i can get the serial number for my archos jukebox 20 from my archos jukebox 20? |
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18:34:21 | User | Does anyone know if i can get my my serial number from my archos jukebox recorder 20? |
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18:34:51 | Greenlight63 | Can i view pictures on my archos jukebox recorder 20? |
18:35:20 | dwihno | Theoretically yes. Nobody has written a plugin for any format yet, though. |
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18:35:26 | Greenlight63 | i c |
18:35:38 | Greenlight63 | do you know if i can get my serial number from my machine? |
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18:35:46 | Greenlight63 | i need it so i can get it repaired from archos |
18:35:53 | dwihno | Look at the sticker on the back of the unit. |
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18:35:57 | Greenlight63 | it has a faulty head phone jack |
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18:36:00 | Greenlight63 | its rubbed off |
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18:36:27 | Greenlight63 | ? |
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18:36:58 | Greenlight63 | any help for me? |
18:37:08 | dwihno | Well. |
18:37:14 | dwihno | rubbed off? |
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18:37:33 | Greenlight63 | i cant see the serial number or the product number |
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18:37:35 | Greenlight63 | ? |
18:37:39 | dwihno | ah |
18:37:41 | dwihno | you ment the sticker. |
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18:37:46 | Greenlight63 | yes |
18:37:47 | dwihno | I thought about the head phone jack :D |
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18:37:52 | Greenlight63 | :) |
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18:37:53 | Greenlight63 | lol |
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18:38:06 | Greenlight63 | the headphone jack is just screwd |
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18:38:21 | Greenlight63 | do you know how hard it is to get archos to fix your product, its a pain in the ass |
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18:38:22 | Greenlight63 | !!!!!!!! |
18:38:23 | dwihno | To be honest, I don't think they du put any serial on other places. |
18:38:34 | dwihno | If I was you, I would return it to the store where I bought it. |
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18:38:36 | Greenlight63 | not in the hardware on the inside? |
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18:38:43 | Greenlight63 | i bought it from amazon.com |
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18:38:46 | Greenlight63 | what do i do? |
18:38:52 | dwihno | Dunno, really. |
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18:39:02 | Greenlight63 | hmmm |
18:39:07 | dwihno | You could try fixing it yourself, if you're handy when it comes to hardware |
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18:39:33 | Greenlight63 | i would need to sotter somthing probly and i dont have experiecne with that, and its under warrenty |
18:39:55 | dwihno | I've never bought stuff from Amazon. |
18:40:03 | dwihno | They tell you to contact Archos directly? |
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18:40:17 | Greenlight63 | do you make the rockbox software (or help) ? |
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18:40:31 | Greenlight63 | ive never talk to amazon yet |
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18:40:45 | Greenlight63 | i just went to archos because thats where the warrenty is from |
18:41:02 | dwihno | There's a lot of people involved in the project. I've done some stuff, but I'm not a core developer. |
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18:41:21 | Greenlight63 | i c |
18:41:22 | dwihno | Well, if it isn't too much of a hassle, try contacting amazon |
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18:41:31 | Greenlight63 | sounds like a good idea |
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18:42:00 | Greenlight63 | can you use the jukebox recorder to view entire movies? |
18:42:09 | dwihno | yes |
18:42:27 | dwihno | you need to convert the movies first, of course. |
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18:42:48 | Greenlight63 | do you have a good way to |
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18:42:53 | Greenlight63 | do that? |
18:43:04 | dwihno | I've never done it myself; I would check the mailing list. |
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18:43:21 | Greenlight63 | cause that would be prette |
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18:43:33 | Greenlight63 | coo |
18:43:37 | dwihno | Cool - yes |
18:43:43 | dwihno | Useful - well.. not really :) |
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18:44:11 | Greenlight63 | when ever i have tryed to vonvert somthing lt always skips the audio and video track :( |
18:44:28 | dwihno | The mailing list might be helpful. |
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18:44:38 | Greenlight63 | i ride the bus alot i would be useful for me, i am on the buss 4 hours a day |
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18:44:45 | Greenlight63 | and i dont want to buy a protable dvd player |
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18:44:46 | Greenlight63 | :) |
18:45:18 | dwihno | Well, there is a lot of excellent literature ;) |
18:45:22 | [IDC]Dragon | Greenlight63: http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/video/DirectShow/ |
18:45:36 | [IDC]Dragon | (for video conversion) |
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18:45:40 | Greenlight63 | thanx |
18:45:51 | [IDC]Dragon | the readme is a bit outdated |
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18:46:12 | dwihno | Go Jörg :D |
18:46:18 | Greenlight63 | could you send the link again, i lost it |
18:46:23 | [IDC]Dragon | you can use the RockVideo application now, instead of GraphEdit. |
18:46:31 | [IDC]Dragon | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/video/DirectShow/ |
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18:47:35 | [IDC]Dragon | but you still need to "install" the Lame and RvfMux filter, as described. |
18:47:38 | Greenlight63 | do you have any idea why my audio and video tracks were skipping? |
18:47:47 | Greenlight63 | sry can you send it one more tim |
18:48:01 | [IDC]Dragon | you can look in the log ;-) |
18:48:07 | Greenlight63 | how? |
18:48:10 | [IDC]Dragon | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/video/DirectShow/ |
18:48:34 | [IDC]Dragon | http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/current.txt |
18:49:01 | [IDC]Dragon | (for the log) |
18:49:30 | Greenlight63 | the link didnt werk |
18:49:48 | [IDC]Dragon | which? |
18:49:57 | Greenlight63 | the joerg one |
18:50:12 | [IDC]Dragon | works well here |
18:50:42 | Greenlight63 | http://www.joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/video/DirectShow/ doesnt werk for me |
18:51:01 | Greenlight63 | oh, no www |
18:51:58 | Greenlight63 | thanx again |
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20:29:05 | dwihno | ;) |
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21:08:46 | mattzz | If we put a checkbox befor each boolean setting string, do we need the "yes"/"no" text that is normally shown beneath that string? |
21:12:14 | mattzz | hm, maybe mattzz.dyndns.org/archos/cb_dialog.png">http://mattzz.dyndns.org/archos/cb_dialog.png shows what I mean |
21:13:08 | mattzz | ping .* |
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21:19:28 | Bagder | mattzz: I don't think we need the yes/no then |
21:19:46 | Bagder | ... but it would be nice to have multiple options on the same screen... :-) |
21:21:11 | mattzz | Bagder: that means to rewrite the settings_menu.c and settings.c monsters as far as I can see |
21:21:36 | mattzz | Bagder: and will kill us when it comes to players only |
21:21:38 | Bagder | yeah - I know it is quite a daunting task. still would be nice ui-wise |
21:22:59 | mattzz | Bagder: ok, lets start with one option per screen </wimp mode> |
21:23:16 | Bagder | chicken! :-P |
21:23:23 | * | Bagder grins |
21:23:42 | mattzz | baddoooook! |
21:24:13 | * | mattzz flutters around |
21:33:02 | mattzz | One more question... |
21:37:07 | mattzz | ... is char_width initialized somewhere in the normal app code? |
21:37:51 | mattzz | argh - ignore me! |
21:38:04 | mattzz | wrong file, wrong time, wrong place |
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21:55:38 | mattzz | where do I find all the different fonts? |
21:55:44 | mattzz | (for jbr20) |
21:55:48 | Bagder | rockbox.haxx.se/fonts/ |
21:55:57 | mattzz | that was a quick one. thanks! |
21:56:36 | amiconn | ..which leads me to the question where to _put_ new fonts (I posted two fonts to the patch tracker recently) |
21:56:58 | mattzz | and: is there a link somewhere on the webpages to /fonts? |
21:59:29 | mattzz | How about a tarball/zip of all fonts? |
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21:59:53 | Bagder | all good ideas! ;-) |
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22:01:39 | amiconn | I'm asking because the fonts are not in CVS, even in .bdf format. |
22:02:03 | Bagder | amiconn: no, they're merely copied to the web space |
22:11:48 | mattzz | Bagder: mattzz.dyndns.org/archos/rb_fonts.zip">http://mattzz.dyndns.org/archos/rb_fonts.zip - pleeeeze put them on your web space (maybe with a link? ;-) |
22:12:03 | mattzz | pretty, pretty please |
22:12:07 | mattzz | :-) |
22:16:24 | Bagder | should I mention the fonts and the langs on that docs page? |
22:16:48 | Bagder | or on the download page? |
22:18:23 | mattzz | both |
22:18:38 | mattzz | two links will do no harm |
22:18:40 | mattzz | imho |
22:19:13 | mattzz | though - download page might be more intuitive |
22:20:41 | amiconn | mattzz: What is different with these fonts? |
22:21:24 | mattzz | amiconn: nothing, I just created a zipfile of all .fnt files of the webserver, did I make a mistake? |
22:22:45 | amiconn | No, just asking because these fonts sounded all familiar to me. |
22:23:15 | amiconn | Bagder: What about my two new fonts? |
22:23:27 | Bagder | any urls for them? |
22:24:35 | amiconn | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=919111&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
22:25:51 | Bagder | there |
22:27:14 | Bagder | rebuilt the zip package too |
22:27:46 | amiconn | Hmm, I wonder why the glyphs in the rockfont-8 image are much taller than they really are? |
22:27:50 | mattzz | thanks |
22:28:29 | Bagder | amiconn: the "bdf2bmp" program we have might not be perfect |
22:30:36 | amiconn | Obviously this is the only font it could not convert correctly, so there might be something wrong with the .bdf. It was created with pfaedit, like the xtal-14 font which shows up correctly. |
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22:33:43 | mattzz | patch to replace "YES"/"NO" by checkbox widget is submitted to patchtracker |
22:34:47 | mattzz | argh - forgot to add #include "recorder/widgets.h" |
22:36:51 | mattzz | patchtracker update done. |
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22:47:33 | mattzz | at 0901C0Fa |
22:47:47 | * | mattzz cant play his own .ucl any more |
22:50:04 | mattzz | ah, rockbox_flash.rock was too old |
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22:52:05 | * | amiconn tries to understand that weird sprintf source |
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23:25:56 | Bagder | amiconn: nice catch on the sprintf |
23:26:54 | amiconn | Bagder: Discussed this with Linus that morning, discovered it by a german settings string that happened to be *exactly* 32 chars long |
23:27:59 | amiconn | Btw, the link on the download page to the language files is wrong: it links to /langs/ but should link to /lang/ |
23:28:40 | Bagder | I noticed |
23:28:45 | Bagder | new one already committed |
23:32:56 | amiconn | As it comes to languages: is it planned to translate the manual to other languages for the next Release as well? |
23:33:27 | Bagder | I think focus should be to have the english one updated first ;-) |
23:33:45 | Bagder | ... but apart from that, I don't think anyone would mind translated versions |
23:37:38 | Bagder | night |
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