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00:27:07 | top_bloke | @find in flames |
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00:46:01 | top_bloke | crap i just realized i did that here |
00:50:43 | amiconn | re mattzz |
00:51:41 | mattzz | re jens |
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01:00:01 | amiconn | Just had a quick look at your checkbox & settings patches, but did not yet try them. |
01:01:06 | amiconn | I wonder if the dreaded address error you mentioned was related to them. |
01:01:44 | mattzz | amiconn: just playing around with it... that is strange: Auto Volume is shown boolean? |
01:01:56 | * | mattzz is firing up emacs |
01:02:42 | amiconn | Hmm, I think it shouldn't |
01:03:20 | mattzz | show files also |
01:03:38 | mattzz | cant toggle show files |
01:04:40 | mattzz | amiconn: that address error was due to an old rockbox_flash.rock |
01:05:55 | amiconn | Ah ok. |
01:06:30 | mattzz | what is shown in your sound / auto volume dialog? |
01:09:21 | amiconn | AV Decay time: Off / 2s / 4s / 8s |
01:10:59 | amiconn | (obviously not boolean) |
01:11:41 | mattzz | argh, bad bug |
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01:28:33 | CpuMan2001 | is there any way to adjust contrast yet on the rfv videos? |
01:34:05 | amiconn | CpuMan2001: You can only choose the contrast of an .rvf while generating it, or adjust the display contrast before you start playing. |
01:34:34 | scott666 | IIRC the plugin API needs to be updated to adjust contrast from within the plugin |
01:37:13 | CpuMan2001 | alright |
01:37:41 | CpuMan2001 | out of interest, has anyone tried to run the cartoon Rejected on it and have it look pretty good |
01:41:26 | amiconn | Nite all. |
01:41:40 | mattzz | nite jens |
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02:41:08 | BC | evenin all |
02:42:24 | BC | wow - haven't had a reaction like that since the last time I told a joke :) |
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02:44:45 | BC | well ...i'm off to smoke the contents of my keyboard... |
02:44:51 | yeft | guess whose back |
02:44:55 | yeft | back agian |
02:44:56 | BC | back again? |
02:45:04 | yeft | whats up |
02:45:16 | BC | popped in for a distraction chat |
02:45:31 | yeft | so i come back to rockbox after like 2 months and they got 2.2 and VIDEO!? |
02:45:35 | yeft | what is up with that? |
02:45:52 | BC | heh - yes, Dragon has been up to his ld tricks again |
02:45:59 | BC | *old |
02:46:10 | BC | doing the impossible |
02:46:22 | BC | there is also a greyscale framework for plugins |
02:46:22 | yeft | how does that video work? |
02:46:27 | yeft | are there any screenshot |
02:46:31 | BC | flashes the bits really fast |
02:47:03 | BC | there's a mandlebrot screen shot somewhere - url in the irc logs :( |
02:47:21 | BC | ONLY problem with video is... |
02:47:45 | BC | we have no refresh to synch aganst and the framerate of the unit changes according to temperature |
02:48:03 | BC | but it's mighty awesome |
02:48:25 | BC | to be honest a demo video would be more useful than a screenshot |
02:48:53 | yeft | true |
02:49:01 | yeft | but unless im gonna get an irc client |
02:49:10 | yeft | and your gonna ctcp me one |
02:49:15 | BC | got aim or icq or whatever? |
02:49:21 | yeft | aim |
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03:29:02 | BC | any techies know which is better? a=a*8 or a=a<<3 |
03:29:21 | BC | specifically for OUR processor that is, as we do not have <<3 |
03:41:23 | yeft | we will see if it still works |
03:41:30 | yeft | after i xed out of avitoyu |
03:45:44 | yeft | ok it didnt work |
03:45:53 | yeft | why doesnt my avitoyu work? |
03:45:58 | BC | <shrugs> |
03:46:24 | BC | again, I'm with the guy who wrote it - bloody impressive, but not much real use |
03:46:39 | yeft | whaa? |
03:46:45 | yeft | hehe bloody |
03:46:50 | yeft | british people...heh |
03:46:57 | BC | maybe if I commuted to work on a train |
03:47:20 | * | BC nips of to find a lime to cure his scurvey |
03:47:24 | BC | *off |
03:47:30 | yeft | it said like pp:0 then somethin 0,000000 ms (0) |
03:47:36 | yeft | and repeated |
03:47:40 | yeft | i assume thats not good |
03:47:47 | BC | did you try one of the new GUI things? |
03:48:14 | yeft | im using the GUI |
03:48:21 | yeft | im too dumb for command line |
03:48:28 | BC | lol |
03:48:31 | BC | nc |
03:48:58 | yeft | extract sound? does that put it in the rvf? |
03:49:04 | BC | yes |
03:49:19 | BC | well, i have zero idea about the gui, but you can have sound in an rvf |
03:49:49 | yeft | ok |
03:49:50 | yeft | cool |
03:52:09 | yeft | i lied though i said i cant do command line but im just too lazy |
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05:23:11 | Greenlight63 | Can someone help me convert movies to play on my archos recorder 20? |
05:23:41 | BC | best I can offer is the fact that it's all in the mailing list archive |
05:24:37 | Greenlight63 | i got the rockvideo converter, but it says it performed an illegal opperation |
05:24:38 | Greenlight63 | :(\ |
05:24:40 | Greenlight63 | :( |
05:24:54 | BC | the new gui thing? |
05:25:06 | Greenlight63 | ?? |
05:25:16 | Greenlight63 | i got it from "jorg's " site |
05:25:55 | scott666 | look in the mailing list archives. if it still doesnt work post a question to the list, because the creator is still hunting bugs |
05:26:06 | BC | cheers scott |
05:26:11 | Greenlight63 | okay thanx |
05:26:21 | Greenlight63 | what should i put in the search? |
05:26:24 | Greenlight63 | rockvideo? |
05:27:08 | BC | "RockVideo GUI Release" seems like a good bet |
05:27:27 | BC | 18/4/2004 |
05:27:40 | BC | (spot the brit) |
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05:36:23 | midknight2k3 | heybc |
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05:47:45 | BC | mk, wanna playtest klondike? |
05:48:12 | * | scott666 wants to playtest solitaire...unless it isnt new |
05:48:44 | BC | get back to work you! |
05:49:09 | BC | lol |
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05:49:19 | scott666 | lol |
05:49:28 | midk | sry what |
05:49:29 | midk | bc? |
05:49:38 | BC | ^^^ |
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05:56:08 | midk | klondike? |
05:57:02 | BC | aka "solitaire" |
05:57:15 | midk | does it work now? |
05:57:18 | BC | nm |
05:57:28 | midk | no really |
05:57:30 | midk | it does or no? |
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05:58:55 | BC | no really, nm, i'm not up for the third degree, my grandmother would disapprove |
05:59:17 | midk | ok, be taht way |
05:59:23 | midk | that* |
05:59:31 | BC | if you insist |
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10:21:14 | mattzz | LinusN: are u there? |
10:22:57 | LinusN | yup |
10:23:35 | mattzz | I reworked my checkbox patch last night - looks good to me now for boolean settings |
10:23:45 | mattzz | checkbox integration patch |
10:24:32 | LinusN | ok, does the voice still work? |
10:24:55 | mattzz | yes |
10:25:09 | mattzz | I am talking about patch 940307 |
10:25:10 | LinusN | i'll have a look |
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10:25:29 | cheaf | hello |
10:25:38 | cheaf | i have a question |
10:25:41 | mattzz | could you please check the player-only build? I dont have the possibility here at work |
10:25:52 | mattzz | cheaf: go ahead |
10:25:56 | cheaf | I have a archos av380 |
10:26:13 | cheaf | what? |
10:26:20 | cheaf | why? |
10:26:33 | mattzz | cheaf: meaning: ask your question ;-) |
10:26:53 | cheaf | I want to instal the avos bootloader |
10:27:18 | cheaf | but, where I have to copy all the files? |
10:27:54 | cheaf | where ist the root folder on the archos |
10:28:10 | mattzz | av380 is avos multimedia, right? |
10:28:17 | cheaf | jes |
10:28:19 | cheaf | yes |
10:28:59 | mattzz | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/nodo.html −−> no. 7 |
10:29:13 | mattzz | av380 is not supported by rockbox |
10:29:43 | cheaf | yes, but wat has rockbox to do with avos? |
10:30:22 | cheaf | I think I am in a wrong chat |
10:30:33 | cheaf | ok, bye and thanks |
10:30:43 | mattzz | hm, sorry |
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12:01:28 | LinusN | mattzz|away: i have looked at your checkbox, looks fine |
12:02:06 | LinusN | the set_options() bool patch looks ok too |
12:05:52 | Pones | hello, I installed rockbox yesterday - its really good :D |
12:07:37 | Pones | hello? |
12:07:50 | LinusN | hi |
12:09:10 | Pones | i have a quick question - after I installed rockbox - I noticed that a folder called AAAAA would not show uop in the browser list until I renamed it - any reason for that? |
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14:42:39 | RV|WRK | !seen [IDC]Dragon |
14:42:58 | RV|WRK | ahh well will have to wait then |
14:43:04 | LinusN | why him? |
14:45:37 | RV|WRK | q about the plugin he did to act as a cd changer |
14:45:43 | LinusN | ah |
14:46:15 | c0utta | linus: to our discussion last night. i can see we need a file types / valid actions logic |
14:46:38 | LinusN | maybe, maybe nnot |
14:46:49 | c0utta | u have an idea ? |
14:47:54 | LinusN | well, it can stay like it is today, with the "hard coded" ON+Play menu |
14:48:34 | LinusN | but it would perhaps still be nice with a similar filter for the f2 actions... |
14:48:47 | c0utta | within my actions i'll be checking file types and see if they're applicable |
14:50:29 | c0utta | from wps.c, is the current file palyed the "current_track_path" static ? |
14:50:37 | c0utta | or should i use the id3 struct ? |
14:50:46 | c0utta | s/palyed/played |
14:51:31 | LinusN | it doesn't have to be static |
14:52:04 | LinusN | but i'd prefer a current_playing_file() function |
14:52:18 | c0utta | but that would just return current_track_path ? |
14:52:34 | LinusN | yes, but it's nicer for the plugin api |
14:52:51 | LinusN | i assume plugins would like that info too |
14:52:55 | c0utta | my whole approach is to treat wps and tree like "objects" |
14:53:14 | LinusN | a bad move imho |
14:53:21 | c0utta | and create "property" functions |
14:53:26 | c0utta | why a bad move ? |
14:53:48 | LinusN | well, they aren't object to begin with :-) |
14:54:52 | c0utta | i am familiar with trying to get procedural languages to look more oo |
14:54:57 | c0utta | lokk at VB :) |
14:55:03 | LinusN | their data is only valid if the wps/tree is shown |
14:55:04 | c0utta | s/llok/look |
14:55:50 | LinusN | current_track_path will not be updated while browsing dirs |
14:56:10 | LinusN | better use mpeg_current_track() |
14:56:46 | c0utta | thanks - i had just opened mpeg.c :) |
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15:24:49 | amiconn|work | LinusN: Any news about the recording code? |
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15:26:31 | LinusN | nope, give me a few moments |
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15:49:48 | [IDC]Dragon | RV|WRK: you were looking for me? |
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16:05:53 | LinusN | amiconn|work: u there? |
16:06:30 | LinusN | i have some interesting findings about your new recording code |
16:09:43 | amiconn|work | Yes? |
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16:10:53 | LinusN | look at this: http://linus.haxx.se/recording/rec_weird.png |
16:11:12 | LinusN | that is the end of a burst |
16:11:14 | Bagder | toshiba claims their new 100GB disk uses 20% less power |
16:11:30 | Bagder | than their 80GB |
16:11:43 | LinusN | see how EOD goes low at the end, making us serve another IRQ |
16:12:09 | LinusN | we set PR low, but RTW doesn't come until the next frame has been compressed |
16:12:50 | LinusN | wait a sec |
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16:12:58 | Bagder | see ya |
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16:13:21 | LinusN | amiconn|work: the signal names are mixed uo |
16:13:23 | LinusN | up |
16:13:38 | LinusN | PRTW is actually PR |
16:14:01 | LinusN | (some day i'll change PRTW to RTW in the LA settings :-) |
16:15:56 | amiconn|work | Is this behaviour different from the "old" recording code? Can't find this in your previous LA measurements... |
16:17:43 | amiconn|work | Another point of interest would be to see one burst with the same time resolution as in your old graphs for comparison. |
16:18:32 | LinusN | doh, they are not mixed up |
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16:20:51 | LinusN | a 30-byte burst takes 143.5us with your new code, compared to 192us with the old |
16:22:34 | LinusN | look et the end of the "complete frame burst" at http://linus.haxx.se/recording/ |
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16:22:48 | LinusN | RTW doesn't go low there |
16:25:37 | LinusN | and RTW is high between the two complete bursts too |
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16:28:58 | amiconn|work | I wonder why it does so? RTW is driven by the mas, right? |
16:30:02 | amiconn|work | And _the_ thing is: I get not frame errors in recordings done with my code. |
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16:38:24 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn|work: what are you investigating? |
16:39:06 | amiconn|work | Linus did some LA measurements with my new recording code. |
16:42:12 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, what's the interesting part about it? (just curious) |
16:53:08 | amiconn|work | See: http://linus.haxx.se/recording/rec_weird.png and compare it with http://linus.haxx.se/recording/ : "one complete frame burst" / "two complete frame bursts". |
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16:54:01 | amiconn|work | Watch for EOD and PRTW at the end. |
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16:56:06 | [IDC]Dragon | going low, you mean? |
16:56:48 | amiconn|work | Yup. I have no idea why, it is driven by the mas after all, and the burst is 30 bytes long as it should be. |
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16:56:59 | quelsaruk | hi |
16:57:02 | amiconn|work | hi |
16:57:39 | quelsaruk | [IDC]Dragon, do you still have that spanish voice you told me?? |
16:57:58 | [IDC]Dragon | SAPI4, yes |
16:58:24 | [IDC]Dragon | if it's like my german one, it's horrible |
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17:00:50 | amiconn|work | quelsaruk: There is a (latin amercian) spanish voice available as at&t natural voice. If someone has some € 30,- available... |
17:00:58 | amiconn|work | *american |
17:02:36 | lImbus | well, a marcian ;-) |
17:06:23 | quelsaruk | umm |
17:06:32 | quelsaruk | latin american is not really spanish |
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17:07:01 | quelsaruk | but thanks for the advice amiconn|work :) |
17:08:05 | solaris | hello, any advise of what to do with my JBR20 w/flash problem? |
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17:09:36 | uski | hi |
17:09:50 | uski | anyone knows: how to know if a 2.5" disk is locked ? if so, how to unlock it ? |
17:10:02 | BC | locked? |
17:10:03 | [IDC]Dragon | solaris: how is the status on l |
17:10:07 | [IDC]Dragon | oops |
17:10:28 | [IDC]Dragon | status on RS232 level converter an serial mod? |
17:10:37 | [IDC]Dragon | s/an/and |
17:10:54 | quelsaruk | [IDC]Dragon, what must i do to make a spanish voice file, and add that to the espanol.lang and so on?? (if you don't mind, of course) |
17:10:56 | uski | BC: yea, password protection embedded in the hard drive; some drives are known to be locked with a hex password of 00000...00000 |
17:11:40 | BC | sorry uski, that's a totally new one on me :( |
17:11:52 | uski | BC: ok ;) no problem |
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17:13:29 | uski | perhaps LinusN knows ? :) |
17:13:51 | [IDC]Dragon | quelsaruk: do you have the voice entries in your translation? |
17:14:51 | BC | uski: do you have any links on th subject? |
17:14:55 | quelsaruk | bc, i have somewhere a program to unlock a hard disk, you could try it. I also think that it's in rockbox website (read the faq, i read that there) |
17:15:04 | quelsaruk | [IDC]Dragon, i have nothing done :) |
17:15:27 | [IDC]Dragon | then maybe you should? |
17:15:50 | BC | quelsaruk: thanks - aways nice to be "in the know" |
17:15:52 | [IDC]Dragon | compare english.lang and german.lang, you'll see |
17:15:54 | uski | BC: rockbox.haxx.se/lock.html |
17:16:02 | uski | or .htm i don't remember |
17:16:11 | uski | unfortunately this does not help as i can't patch my linux kernel |
17:17:04 | BC | uski: thanks |
17:17:08 | uski | ;) |
17:18:08 | [IDC]Dragon | solaris: are you there? |
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17:26:19 | solaris | yes |
17:26:22 | solaris | i'm here now |
17:26:42 | solaris | ummm, i haven't done much with serial mod |
17:26:53 | solaris | i thought you said i didn't need one |
17:27:14 | solaris | should i be building one? |
17:27:20 | quelsaruk | [IDC]Dragon, and afterwards? |
17:27:40 | quelsaruk | i mean, after adding the voice entries |
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17:33:49 | RV|WRK | [IDC]Dragon |
17:33:54 | [IDC]Dragon | quelsaruk: then you can run one of my batch files |
17:34:15 | RV|WRK | lo again |
17:34:21 | [IDC]Dragon | for SAPI4, you currently need TextAloud or similar |
17:34:36 | [IDC]Dragon | RV|WRK: yes? |
17:35:08 | RV|WRK | what functionality did you get with your alpine system ? |
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17:36:03 | [IDC]Dragon | not too much yet, just enabling the input |
17:36:20 | RV|WRK | k |
17:36:24 | [IDC]Dragon | but this is most of the work |
17:36:41 | [IDC]Dragon | since the protocol and emulation is all there |
17:37:09 | RV|WRK | does it query the archos from time to time or just on power up ? |
17:37:11 | [IDC]Dragon | I "just" need to wire the emulation with Rockbox control |
17:37:38 | [IDC]Dragon | queries every second |
17:38:06 | RV|WRK | so you got a simple query and response going then |
17:38:08 | [IDC]Dragon | when I end the plugin, it's over |
17:38:18 | RV|WRK | how u mean ? |
17:38:42 | [IDC]Dragon | the radio gets times out |
17:38:44 | quelsaruk | thanks [IDC]Dragon :) |
17:38:51 | [IDC]Dragon | timed out |
17:39:08 | [IDC]Dragon | and shows error, disables its input |
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17:40:19 | RV|WRK | sum1 is lending me a correct changer for my renault so im gonna have a probe on the bus hopefully when its happy |
17:40:36 | RV|WRK | you just use a scope ? |
17:40:49 | [IDC]Dragon | at first, yes |
17:40:57 | [IDC]Dragon | then a ligic analyzer |
17:41:02 | [IDC]Dragon | logic |
17:41:17 | RV|WRK | you got access to them ? |
17:41:27 | [IDC]Dragon | at work, yes |
17:41:42 | RV|WRK | been looking at souncard based scopes etc |
17:41:59 | [IDC]Dragon | that's probably sufficient |
17:42:20 | RV|WRK | :) work too tight for a scope but i used them in a previous job |
17:43:07 | RV|WRK | just a case of recording actions & responses to all available commands etc ? |
17:43:23 | [IDC]Dragon | if the bus is slow (like my alpine), the wiring it carefully to a soundcard is OK |
17:43:38 | [IDC]Dragon | no, you need to understand it |
17:44:02 | [IDC]Dragon | but yes, you have to log all use cases |
17:44:19 | RV|WRK | yes, i mean seeing what is ent and received initially and then to the next track etc commands |
17:44:50 | [IDC]Dragon | sounds simple, but was like 2 weeks of work |
17:45:03 | [IDC]Dragon | the hardest was the checksum |
17:45:13 | RV|WRK | how u mean ? |
17:45:29 | [IDC]Dragon | have u read my M-Bus article? |
17:45:41 | RV|WRK | u have a data packer or word followed by csum ? |
17:45:57 | [IDC]Dragon | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/mbus |
17:46:09 | RV|WRK | no as im not convinced the system is mbus |
17:46:15 | RV|WRK | will do ta |
17:46:20 | [IDC]Dragon | I mean, generally |
17:49:32 | RV|WRK | yes see what u mean now |
17:50:59 | RV|WRK | im hoping my system is a 1 wire mbus type and not a sony unilink variant as this could be much more difficult to monitor |
17:51:16 | [IDC]Dragon | good luck |
17:51:21 | RV|WRK | :) ta |
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17:54:28 | quelsaruk | time to go |
17:54:29 | quelsaruk | cu! |
17:54:38 | RV|WRK | right thats my time to finish work thanks bbl |
17:54:39 | quelsaruk | have a nice weekend |
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17:55:04 | [IDC]Dragon | solaris: u there? |
17:55:16 | solaris | yes |
17:55:45 | [IDC]Dragon | in general: don't worry, so far all misflashed boxes have been recovered. |
17:56:26 | solaris | cool, that's good to know |
17:58:59 | solaris | so, can you please tell me what steps to take? |
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18:01:07 | [IDC]Dragon | serial mod and RS232 level converter |
18:02:47 | [IDC]Dragon | then u can use my uart_boot program to read and write your flash |
18:02:49 | BC | Here's irony ...Anyone know Bjoerns "hacker alias"? |
18:03:08 | [IDC]Dragon | zagor? |
18:03:13 | BC | cheers |
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18:07:13 | solaris | dragon: i'll start on rs232, but how do u serial mod? using LINE-IN?? |
18:07:48 | [IDC]Dragon | either that, or just temporary attached wires. |
18:08:04 | [IDC]Dragon | you have a V2, right? |
18:08:08 | solaris | yes |
18:08:15 | solaris | jbr20 recorder v2 |
18:08:20 | [IDC]Dragon | ok |
18:08:35 | solaris | it'll work with LINE-IN w/ v2? |
18:08:59 | [IDC]Dragon | you'd have tore-wire line in |
18:09:08 | [IDC]Dragon | to re-wire |
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18:09:53 | [IDC]Dragon | on the FM/V2, the serial is nicely accessible on an empty header |
18:10:16 | [IDC]Dragon | I can send you a picture, but later, don't have it here |
18:10:16 | solaris | hmm, like this?? http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/serialport.html |
18:10:35 | [IDC]Dragon | this id for a Player |
18:10:38 | [IDC]Dragon | is |
18:11:44 | [IDC]Dragon | do you have a level converter? |
18:12:50 | solaris | no |
18:13:39 | [IDC]Dragon | do you know any hardware hacker who does? |
18:13:56 | [IDC]Dragon | (mobile phone cables often contain one) |
18:14:15 | solaris | hmmm, i'll ask my bro-in law |
18:14:58 | [IDC]Dragon | have a look at this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/fmrecorder.html |
18:16:07 | solaris | how about this? http://chaokhun.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit/ap275/ap275.htm |
18:16:27 | [IDC]Dragon | you can see the 2*3 header (with holes) at the bottom, close to the headphone jack |
18:17:17 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, I use something similar |
18:18:43 | solaris | so, i can use either this or max232 |
18:19:02 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
18:19:25 | [IDC]Dragon | but keep in mind the Archos is 3.3V, not 5V |
18:20:17 | solaris | so, reduce the voltage? |
18:20:22 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
18:23:07 | solaris | you can see the 2*3 header (with holes) at the bottom, close to the headphone jack <==== where?? |
18:23:19 | solaris | i'm looking at the headphone jack |
18:23:42 | [IDC]Dragon | at your box or at the PCB picture? |
18:24:29 | [IDC]Dragon | open this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/fmrec_top_hires.jpg |
18:26:35 | [IDC]Dragon | pixel coordinates 781,743 |
18:26:41 | solaris | ok |
18:27:07 | [IDC]Dragon | found it? |
18:27:50 | solaris | yes |
18:28:21 | solaris | so, which are tX, Rx.... ?? |
18:28:29 | [IDC]Dragon | to 3 of these pads, you'll have to attach wires to have TX, RX, Gnd |
18:28:59 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't know, have to tell you later |
18:29:22 | solaris | ok, this will be fun |
18:29:28 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
18:30:20 | solaris | i'll start on level convert, and ask for help later, thx |
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18:31:05 | [IDC]Dragon | RX is the square one, iirc |
18:31:26 | [IDC]Dragon | TX is probably opposite to that |
18:31:38 | solaris | ok, i'll write this down |
18:31:59 | [IDC]Dragon | Gnd you can find easily with a continuity tester, is connected to the chassis |
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18:32:19 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm not 100% here, better confirm later |
18:32:57 | solaris | got it |
18:33:21 | [IDC]Dragon | Gnd are the both in the middle |
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19:11:33 | mattzz | Checkbox widget integration patch is uploaded. I added a fix for the player model. Have fun with it ;-) |
19:11:57 | mattzz | All plain boolean setting dialogs have a checkbox widget now. |
19:15:22 | * | mattzz thinks about a radio-button widget for a single selection out of more than one options and a spinbutton widget |
19:15:52 | mattzz | gotta go again - cu |
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21:26:00 | amiconn | LinusN: Did you get my comments / questions to the recording analysis a while ago? |
21:28:06 | pfavr | Is there a how to make rvfs using linux somewhere? |
21:28:39 | pfavr | or maybe a link to a working rvf I could try out? |
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22:02:08 | LinusN | amiconn: yes, i am as puzzled as you are |
22:02:42 | * | LinusN is away: putting kids to bed |
22:05:15 | uski | "hey kids, go to bed now !" "no dad we wanna watch tv !" "i told you that there is nothing for you on the evenings" "our friend Tom said that there are movies ! why can't we watch movies ?" "because you're too young" "and when we will be able to see them ?" "in some years ?" "how many ?" "i don't know" |
22:05:27 | amiconn | LinusN: maybe you got (by chance) the very last burst of the recording, so the mas was put back into playback mode afterwards. |
22:05:59 | uski | "why don't you want to tell us ?" "because it's late and you have to sleep now" "we don't want to sleep ! can you read us a story ?" "no i don't have time, i have to help other rockboxers" |
22:06:47 | amiconn | If EOD had caused an interrupt, PR would have been put high by the interrupt routine, or do I get something wrong here? |
22:07:35 | * | amiconn is busy writing VBScript, so replying may take a while |
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22:13:47 | [IDC]Dragon | solaris: still there? |
22:14:39 | pfavr | uski, you don't happen to know how I make an rvf-file on linux? |
22:15:04 | uski | ooo :) |
22:15:13 | uski | how did you ? using wine ? :) |
22:15:55 | pfavr | uski, heh, sorry, I meant how I could make one... |
22:16:04 | uski | aah ;) |
22:16:07 | uski | you can't i think |
22:16:32 | uski | unless you pay a linux advanced programming training to [IDC]Dragon ;)))) |
22:16:53 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
22:17:15 | pfavr | I did build some of the utilities on linux a while back, but I missed one of them. |
22:17:29 | pfavr | (can't remember which) |
22:18:07 | pfavr | anyone have a rvf-file I could try out (still haven't experienced video on my recorder) |
22:18:32 | pfavr | it shouldn't be too large - I'm on dialup |
22:18:44 | uski | hmmm |
22:18:48 | [IDC]Dragon | http://rockbox.haxx.se/newvid/ |
22:18:55 | uski | i only have large rvf files |
22:19:40 | [IDC]Dragon | (the smallest with sound is the doom one) |
22:20:49 | [IDC]Dragon | you can do a partial download, if you like |
22:21:01 | pfavr | ok thanks |
22:22:01 | [IDC]Dragon | have you tried the mandelbrot plugin? It also uses grayscale. |
22:22:16 | pfavr | I think the daily build lacks the .ajz file |
22:22:26 | pfavr | So I'm getting the bleeding edge build instead |
22:22:30 | [IDC]Dragon | you only need the plufin |
22:22:37 | [IDC]Dragon | plugin |
22:22:57 | pfavr | will it work with 2.2? |
22:23:10 | [IDC]Dragon | should do |
22:23:22 | pfavr | I want to try the voice anyway - so I will try the bleeding |
22:23:23 | amiconn | Someone in here with good knowledge of regular expressions? |
22:23:35 | pfavr | a little |
22:24:17 | pfavr | amiconn, how can I help? |
22:24:22 | amiconn | How do I match a whole word? |
22:24:39 | pfavr | is it perl regular expressions? |
22:24:50 | pfavr | \w+ |
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22:24:58 | amiconn | i.e. blank before and after, or start at beginning of string and/or end ant end of string |
22:25:30 | amiconn | I wast precise enough, how do I match a _specific word? |
22:25:35 | amiconn | *wasn't |
22:25:57 | pfavr | just write the string itself |
22:26:25 | pfavr | are you using grep? |
22:26:30 | pfavr | or what program is it? |
22:26:33 | amiconn | Just string itself does also match if it is a part of a compound word, waht I don't want |
22:26:49 | amiconn | No, this is actually VBScript |
22:27:09 | uski | what is the pathname of the directory which has the .rocks files ? /.rockbox/rocks ? |
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22:27:31 | amiconn | So I need to know how to match (wordseparator)blahblah(wordseparator) |
22:27:47 | amiconn | uski: yes |
22:27:58 | uski | ok :) |
22:28:33 | pfavr | \s+blablah\s+ |
22:28:47 | pfavr | (if it understands perl regex) |
22:30:58 | amiconn | Yes, this does indeed work in VBScript, but not correct, since it does match the whitespace also, so if I do a replace against the match, my blanks are gone. |
22:31:48 | pfavr | ah ok |
22:32:17 | pfavr | \s+(blabla)\s+ and then refer to the matched word as $ |
22:32:21 | pfavr | $1 |
22:32:24 | pfavr | sorry |
22:32:35 | pfavr | well still not sure what you try to do |
22:32:57 | uski | btw anyone knows what is this "auto volume" option? |
22:35:15 | amiconn | pfavr: I try to write two script to deal with the voice features of rockbox. Since some words are pronounced wrong and we do not want to introduce deliberate spelling errors into the .lang files because this depends on the voice engine used, I want to have a "string replacement list" in the script. |
22:36:18 | pfavr | ah |
22:36:21 | pfavr | ok |
22:36:37 | pfavr | could you show me the vbscribt function you use? |
22:38:11 | amiconn | The script is actually rather complex, because I want to use it with different sapi voices, so I define a Dictionary object of Dictionary objects. Each of the sub-objects holds a list of match/replace pairs for one voice. |
22:38:52 | amiconn | The replacement is done with the RegExp object, and now I want to define the match strings. |
22:39:27 | pfavr | mandelbrot: cool! |
22:39:59 | pfavr | ok think I get it now |
22:40:25 | pfavr | the tricky part is that you want to be sure that this is a whole word and not just part of a word |
22:40:43 | pfavr | but you just want to replace the word itself |
22:40:49 | amiconn | Sadly, the () .. $1 method is not possible with the RegExp object. |
22:41:09 | amiconn | Yes, for _some_ strings I want to make sure that it is a whole word. |
22:41:19 | pfavr | part of a word would be easy - you figured that out already |
22:41:35 | amiconn | Yup. Just the string itself. |
22:41:52 | pfavr | It is not something I know _like that_ |
22:41:57 | pfavr | bumbum |
22:42:33 | pfavr | the problem is: the part you match you also replace |
22:42:37 | pfavr | how about |
22:43:02 | pfavr | matching <space>word<space> and replacing with <space>word2<space>? |
22:43:29 | pfavr | but that will not work at the end or beginning of a sentence |
22:45:07 | pfavr | you could of course do a workaround where you pad a space at the beginning and end before you replace |
22:46:05 | amiconn | Yeah, I found the solution: searching for (\s+)blahblah(\s+) and replacing with $1blubblubb$2 works! |
22:46:51 | pfavr | the + means one or many |
22:47:00 | amiconn | (So $ referencing is possible) |
22:47:02 | pfavr | ? is zero or one |
22:47:07 | pfavr | great |
22:47:40 | amiconn | So maybe it is enough to search for (\s)blablah(\s) ? |
22:48:16 | pfavr | that will only take one space yes |
22:48:26 | pfavr | actually \s is any whitespace |
22:48:39 | amiconn | Bummer - this does not work at the beginning or end of string |
22:48:54 | pfavr | just use ? |
22:48:59 | pfavr | zero or one |
22:49:13 | pfavr | or you could use * which means zero or many |
22:49:40 | amiconn | But if I use "zero or one" this would also match inside a word!? |
22:50:10 | pfavr | yes, then wee need to see if you can match "beginning of sentence" or "whitespace" |
22:50:28 | pfavr | [\s^] |
22:50:50 | pfavr | If I remember correctly, the ^ means "beginning of string" |
22:52:17 | amiconn | Hmm, doesn't work at the beginning, still works in the middle. |
22:53:19 | amiconn | Just found something on the net: \< means "match beginning of a word" \> means "match end of a word". Yay! |
22:53:49 | pfavr | cool, now I learned something |
22:53:54 | pfavr | do you have a link? |
22:54:14 | amiconn | Grr, doesn't work with VBScript. |
22:55:29 | amiconn | \b works, finally (match beginning or end of word). The link: http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/helpsheets/regex.html |
22:55:59 | [IDC]Dragon | congratulations! |
22:56:39 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: I've added the stride parameter to your framework, should I commit that? |
22:57:25 | pfavr | Just watched part of futurama on my rockbox - this is unbelievable cool! |
22:57:50 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: ?? The Framework is not yet committed at all. |
22:57:53 | [IDC]Dragon | didn't you say dialup? |
22:58:06 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: oops, sorry then. |
22:58:41 | [IDC]Dragon | I can email it to you. |
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22:59:09 | [IDC]Dragon | or update patch tracker. It's in there, right? |
22:59:51 | amiconn | Yes, it is in the tracker. Is it possible to update someone else's patches in there? |
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23:00:26 | [IDC]Dragon | As an admin, I think so. |
23:00:28 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: s/\bFirmwares\b/Firmwers/ :)) |
23:00:30 | pfavr | dialup - yes, I also said "part of futurama";-) |
23:02:22 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: So maybe we should revert all spelling adjustments from the voice entries (since these are engine dependent, as you said) including the hyphenation as soon as my script is ready. |
23:02:56 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Please do update the framework in the tracker tehn. |
23:03:04 | amiconn | *then even |
23:03:24 | [IDC]Dragon | grr, just found you updated it meanwhile, need to merge. |
23:04:00 | amiconn | ? My last update was a number of days ago... |
23:04:33 | amiconn | 9 days to be precise. |
23:10:57 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Did you check out my "Crystal" voice? It does pronounce "resume" correctly. |
23:15:04 | [IDC]Dragon | how dis you convince it? |
23:15:10 | [IDC]Dragon | did |
23:15:34 | amiconn | This is weird - I used a german spelling: "Resuhm" |
23:15:53 | [IDC]Dragon | looks funny |
23:16:08 | amiconn | but it works |
23:16:24 | [IDC]Dragon | thanks for the hint |
23:16:37 | [IDC]Dragon | grayscale patch updated |
23:17:01 | amiconn | At this moment I got the idea for that vbscript I'm writing now. |
23:17:47 | pfavr | how many words are there in the language file? |
23:19:02 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: a simple word substitution may be too drastic |
23:19:24 | [IDC]Dragon | e.g.resume is pronounced correct if it's in a context |
23:21:11 | pfavr | where do I put the english voice file - I tried in .rockbox but it doesn't work |
23:21:51 | [IDC]Dragon | in .rockbox/langs |
23:22:17 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Argh! But this is not difficult to solve, as I don't do simple word replacement but regexp matching. I will match "resume" as full string for "Crystal" |
23:22:39 | pfavr | ok thanks |
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23:27:05 | dsg | Has anyone made RVFs on linux yet? |
23:27:19 | uski | dsg: nah |
23:27:31 | uski | not possible yet |
23:27:41 | uski | unless you find a very very clever solution |
23:28:08 | dsg | I was making some attempts... halftone.c compiles cleanly, and I was hoping to get the YUV output from mplayer. I got it, and halftone did it's thing, but it came out very garbled when played back on rockbox. |
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23:28:50 | dsg | I'm not sure if it's because it's a different YUV format then it expects, or if it's something else though. |
23:29:15 | [IDC]Dragon | dsg: how does the yuv format look like? |
23:29:42 | uski | i think a very very clean and cool way to make rvf on linux would be to make a "transcode" ouput plugin |
23:29:50 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm expecting 112*64 YUV4:2:0 planar |
23:29:55 | uski | transcode = a program to convert video files |
23:29:56 | dsg | [IDC]Dragon: Well, I don't really recognise the different ones... can you be more specific? :) |
23:30:02 | [IDC]Dragon | OK |
23:30:24 | dsg | [IDC]Dragon: Well, I downscaled it to 112*64, but I'm not entirely sure if it's YUV 4:2:0. |
23:30:33 | [IDC]Dragon | planar means the components are in separate frames |
23:30:37 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I've had a look at your addition to the framework, looks nice. But obvoiusly your editor writes tab characters. |
23:31:24 | [IDC]Dragon | 4:2:0 means U and V are half resolution in x and y direction, so these planes are 1/4 in size. |
23:31:54 | [IDC]Dragon | for each frame, the Y plane comes fist, followed by U and V planes. |
23:32:24 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't use U and V since we have no color, you can put anything you want in there. |
23:33:21 | dsg | Hm. I see. |
23:33:51 | [IDC]Dragon | So, each frame is 112*64 = 7168 bytes of Y data, followed by 3584 bytes don't care. |
23:34:16 | uski | damn, why having this "i don't care" bytes then ? |
23:34:21 | dsg | Agh. mplayer is putting the file in an AVI container. |
23:34:27 | uski | can't you cut them while encoding ? |
23:34:35 | uski | it would reduce the size of the files :) |
23:34:42 | uski | dsg :)) |
23:34:44 | [IDC]Dragon | uski: because else it woudn't be YUV |
23:34:53 | uski | [IDC]Dragon: and why does it has to be YUV ? |
23:34:54 | uski | ;) |
23:34:55 | [IDC]Dragon | and there's a tool for YUV |
23:35:05 | [IDC]Dragon | (from Microsoft) |
23:35:14 | pfavr | what is the final rvf format like? |
23:35:45 | pfavr | maybe transcode could produce the right grayscale zoomed stream directly |
23:35:47 | [IDC]Dragon | it's a series of "screenshots" for the Archos |
23:36:08 | [IDC]Dragon | interleaved with audio frames |
23:36:21 | [IDC]Dragon | which form a linked list |
23:36:22 | pfavr | ok |
23:36:29 | [IDC]Dragon | not so trivial |
23:36:42 | pfavr | so the program producing rvf has sourcecode available? |
23:36:49 | dsg | [IDC]Dragon: But yeah, file should have no headers, just raw YUV data, right? |
23:37:05 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, halftone and rvf_mux |
23:37:16 | [IDC]Dragon | raw YUV, yes |
23:37:37 | pfavr | maybe we could make a version taking an output from transcode directly - then transcode could do the grayscale, zoom, and we could skip the YUV format on linux |
23:37:49 | uski | exactly |
23:37:57 | uski | you only have to write an output plugin |
23:37:58 | [IDC]Dragon | like my DirectShow filter |
23:38:02 | uski | exactly |
23:38:05 | pfavr | that would be faster I think |
23:38:08 | uski | yea |
23:38:20 | [IDC]Dragon | go ahead |
23:38:20 | uski | and very cool because you could convert almost every format to a rvf file |
23:39:56 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: I don't know about the tabs, it's not in the areas I touched |
23:40:39 | pfavr | uski, yes, and using dvd::rip directly to put a DVD on the rockbox in one go with point and click |
23:40:46 | pfavr | ;-) |
23:40:47 | uski | rofl yea |
23:40:55 | uski | right button / Convert to RVF... |
23:40:56 | uski | ahha |
23:41:24 | uski | i was thinking of replacing the LCD of my archos by a color one ;))) |
23:41:51 | pfavr | then you just need to make it usb-master also and connect a usb-dvd-drive |
23:41:57 | uski | heh |
23:42:00 | uski | harder |
23:42:00 | uski | ;) |
23:42:06 | uski | however |
23:42:15 | uski | why not connecting an IDE drive instead of the hard drive ? ;) |
23:42:23 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: You are right - then tabs do also exist in my local version. I wonder how they went in there then... |
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23:43:35 | pfavr | uski, can you connect a slave drive? |
23:44:54 | uski | it is not possible to connect anything else than a computer on the usb port |
23:45:12 | uski | however u shoulod be able to connect every IDE "thing" to the hard drive connector inside the archos |
23:45:19 | pfavr | I meant on the IDE - having both the harddrive and an external DVD? |
23:45:40 | pfavr | then a port of transcode as a rock... |
23:45:49 | uski | should be possible |
23:45:52 | uski | master/slave |
23:46:01 | uski | but triocky to handle i think |
23:46:03 | uski | -o |
23:46:07 | pfavr | should probably overclock the SH1 first |
23:46:14 | uski | ah yea |
23:46:15 | uski | well |
23:46:30 | uski | i think that you don't want to decompress the mpeg2 movies in the archos, right ? |
23:46:41 | uski | the only thing that it can play is uncompressed movies = rvf ;) |
23:46:46 | pfavr | And a couple of lead akkus as well |
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