| 00:03:48 | amiconn | New Voices: http://amiconn.dyndns.org/ , then select from the menu :) |
| 00:09:59 | amiconn | While playing with all these voices I found that all voices from the same manufacturer for the same language do have the mispronounciations. |
| 00:10:39 | amiconn | E.g. all Microsoft voices say "ploogin", and all AT&T us english voices show that "resume" problem. |
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| 00:12:34 | [IDC]Dragon | same dictionary / grammar rules, I presume. |
| 00:13:53 | [IDC]Dragon | thanks for the files, I will try them tomorrow. |
| 00:13:53 | amiconn | Yup. This makes my script a little shorter (less number of tables). My script will receive a little more polishing, then I will post it. |
| 00:14:26 | amiconn | I guess I will have to do my website overhaul for that. |
| 00:14:47 | [IDC]Dragon | not necessarily |
| 00:15:44 | [IDC]Dragon | downloading them now, from your dyndns |
| 00:16:22 | amiconn | Using IE. |
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| 00:16:37 | [IDC]Dragon | no good? |
| 00:16:50 | [IDC]Dragon | (spying on your users?) |
| 00:17:43 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, got it, need to sleep now. |
| 00:17:54 | [IDC]Dragon | thanks again! |
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| 00:23:05 | mattzz | amiconn: could you do me a favour? |
| 00:24:12 | amiconn | Shoot. |
| 00:24:53 | mattzz | amiconn: I'd like my checkbox patches (widget and menu integration) comitted into CVS - what do I have to do? |
| 00:25:28 | mattzz | amiconn: are there any special procedures e.g. to ensure not to break compilation? |
| 00:27:22 | amiconn | Unfortunately I did not yet have another look at it and I'm short on time today. |
| 00:27:47 | mattzz | amiconn: no prob - I will practice patience than ;-) |
| 00:28:39 | amiconn | You could try if it compiles without warnings at least with the 4 major "platforms": player/recorder - target/sim |
| 00:30:34 | amiconn | If nobody else will do it meanwhile, I can try it (and commit if I don't find problems) within the next week. |
| 00:30:56 | amiconn | (I will be off the next 2 days) |
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| 00:32:35 | mattzz | all four compiles do look good. I will be offline tomorrow, too (gone divin' ) |
| 00:33:12 | mattzz | amiconn: Linus wanted to commit the patch, guess he is busy, too |
| 00:33:41 | mattzz | that was some days ago |
| 00:34:29 | amiconn | You're right I think. |
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| 00:34:57 | mattzz | no prob - practicing patience will do me good ;-) |
| 00:38:30 | mattzz | g'nite all |
| 00:38:39 | amiconn | Nite |
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| 02:20:16 | CpuMan2001 | I just rockbox yesterday and updated it to the 4/24 cvs build, and it worked yesterday, but when I just turned it on it crashed at the title screen |
| 02:20:19 | CpuMan2001 | is there anything I can do |
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| 02:40:53 | CpuMan2001 | it doesn't respond to any button presses |
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| 04:39:12 | CpuMan2001 | anyone here? |
| 04:39:50 | kaboofa | yeah. |
| 04:40:14 | diddystar5 | yep |
| 04:40:46 | CpuMan2001 | 02.20.16 # <CpuMan2001> I just rockbox yesterday and updated it to the 4/24 cvs build, and it worked yesterday, but when I just turned it on it crashed at the title screen |
| 04:40:46 | CpuMan2001 | 02.20.19 # <CpuMan2001> is there anything I can do |
| 04:40:50 | CpuMan2001 | 02.40.53 # <CpuMan2001> it doesn't respond to any button presses |
| 04:44:38 | diddystar5 | is your unit flashed? |
| 04:44:53 | CpuMan2001 | eh |
| 04:45:03 | CpuMan2001 | let me change the first sentence to "I just flashed rockbox yesterday" |
| 04:45:12 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 04:45:22 | CpuMan2001 | it worked fine directly after the flash |
| 04:45:24 | diddystar5 | can you boot by holding F1 while you press on? |
| 04:45:30 | CpuMan2001 | then it worked fine again directly after the update |
| 04:45:35 | CpuMan2001 | it's stuck on right now |
| 04:45:41 | CpuMan2001 | not sure how I can turn it off |
| 04:46:02 | diddystar5 | hold off until it does |
| 04:46:43 | CpuMan2001 | alright, the f1 boot worked |
| 04:47:22 | CpuMan2001 | should I try a normal boot again? |
| 04:47:38 | diddystar5 | ok, what i would do is tell someone about your problems (the mailing-list would be best), and you can just do with the F1 boot until then |
| 04:47:52 | diddystar5 | you can still use rockbox, just put the rockbox.ajz file onto the unit |
| 04:48:05 | CpuMan2001 | alright, thanks |
| 04:48:20 | diddystar5 | let me look and see what change was last made, and see what your problem may be |
| 04:49:16 | diddystar5 | had you never updated your fash until then? |
| 04:49:44 | CpuMan2001 | I just got the unit on thursday and installed rockbox normally then |
| 04:50:04 | CpuMan2001 | then the day after I flashed and updated |
| 04:51:01 | diddystar5 | it is a recorder you have right? |
| 04:51:44 | CpuMan2001 | recorder v2 |
| 04:52:07 | diddystar5 | ok |
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| 04:52:38 | diddystar5 | well there are two changes that may cause that, but I am not sure, since i don't have my recorder working |
| 04:52:54 | diddystar5 | scott666, do you have your rockbox flashed? |
| 04:53:28 | scott666 | yeah |
| 04:53:52 | diddystar5 | scott666, have you flashed the latest build |
| 04:54:06 | diddystar5 | scott666, CpuMan2001 here is having booting problems with it |
| 04:54:16 | scott666 | no |
| 04:54:22 | scott666 | and my archos is dissassembled |
| 04:54:29 | scott666 | heh |
| 04:54:41 | diddystar5 | mine too lol |
| 04:55:45 | diddystar5 | (v)snprintf() wrote past buffer end if string length was equal to buffer size |
| 04:55:52 | diddystar5 | that sounds like the culprit to me |
| 04:56:54 | diddystar5 | [DNS] Canonical: c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com Numerical: 24.245.58.245 |
| 04:57:16 | scott666 | stop that :-þ |
| 04:57:35 | diddystar5 | :-> |
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| 05:11:21 | diddystar5 | bye everyone |
| 05:11:27 | diddystar5 | time for me to go home |
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| 07:48:01 | thu | hey |
| 07:48:57 | midk | hey thu |
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| 08:53:04 | BioHazard | i just have a quick question... |
| 08:53:39 | midk | hey |
| 08:54:28 | BioHazard | if i provided sounds for the tetris plugin, could they be added? 19.2KB MP3 or is that too big for the plugin buffer? |
| 08:55:05 | midk | hmm |
| 08:55:07 | midk | probably just fit |
| 08:55:27 | midk | i'm working on a tetris update right now lol! |
| 08:55:41 | BioHazard | heh, perfect timeing then :) |
| 08:56:12 | BioHazard | did you add pause yet? |
| 08:57:29 | midk | nope |
| 08:57:31 | midk | just started |
| 08:57:34 | midk | added scoring so far |
| 08:57:43 | midk | what's planned: |
| 08:57:48 | midk | -3d mode using grayscale |
| 08:58:00 | midk | -game over, play again? question |
| 08:58:07 | midk | -pause of course |
| 08:58:14 | midk | -sounds (good timing yeah!) |
| 08:58:20 | midk | -savegame *possible* |
| 08:58:54 | BioHazard | ooooh, cant wait :) |
| 08:59:08 | BioHazard | ive been wanting an update to that plugin for so long |
| 08:59:19 | midk | oh and levels |
| 08:59:23 | midk | i mean |
| 08:59:31 | midk | hard, easy, medium, super tetris guru :) |
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| 09:01:44 | midk | and also i want to do scoring by level. |
| 09:01:58 | midk | IE 1200 pts = level 2, 2500pts = level 3 |
| 09:02:01 | midk | and so on |
| 09:03:39 | BioHazard | would you like the sounds zip? or will you make some yourself? |
| 09:05:02 | midk | i'll take em, sure! |
| 09:05:11 | midk | i hope i can fit them in |
| 09:06:40 | BioHazard | should i include the wavs too so you can compress them another way (these are 32kbps mono q=9) |
| 09:07:03 | BioHazard | it was as low as i could get |
| 09:07:28 | BioHazard | and i clipped them as close as possible |
| 09:09:17 | midk | hmm |
| 09:09:23 | midk | well what sounds are there? |
| 09:09:28 | midk | is there music or somesuch? |
| 09:09:31 | BioHazard | no |
| 09:10:39 | BioHazard | http://www.geocities.com/zd_biohazard/tetrssnd.zip (no wavs) |
| 09:11:38 | midk | oooooh i like |
| 09:11:39 | BioHazard | its got: level up, make a line, move peice, pause, place peice, turn peice, gameover |
| 09:11:59 | midk | yup sounds good! |
| 09:13:08 | BioHazard | i could get the 1-minute sound if you plan on implementing 40-line mode |
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| 09:13:22 | midk | yefty! |
| 09:13:29 | yeft | what up gangstas |
| 09:13:38 | yeft | midk man..long time no see |
| 09:13:40 | midk | BioHazard: 40-line mode? |
| 09:13:45 | midk | same yeft |
| 09:13:49 | midk | :) |
| 09:13:50 | midk | what's up? |
| 09:13:54 | yeft | i gots a question...and im mad bored |
| 09:14:05 | yeft | how does the kareoke mode on the player work |
| 09:14:17 | midk | how does it work? |
| 09:14:23 | BioHazard | it plays the difference between channels |
| 09:14:29 | yeft | and video is f-in sick by the way...bad boys 2 is playing right now |
| 09:14:35 | midk | it does Stereo - Mono |
| 09:14:46 | midk | karaoke = stereo - mono |
| 09:14:52 | yeft | oh |
| 09:15:01 | yeft | so if i wanted to do it on my comp....... |
| 09:15:03 | BioHazard | i wonder if there could be an inverse kareoke |
| 09:15:13 | midk | heh bio, juse use mono |
| 09:15:36 | BioHazard | dosent mono mix down the channels into one though? |
| 09:15:45 | midk | well yes |
| 09:15:49 | midk | what would inverse do? |
| 09:16:05 | BioHazard | it would play the same between channels |
| 09:16:14 | BioHazard | and throw out the difference |
| 09:16:19 | midk | oh |
| 09:16:22 | midk | that could work yo yo yo |
| 09:16:29 | yeft | i invented it |
| 09:16:34 | yeft | or whatever |
| 09:16:37 | yeft | damn im tired |
| 09:16:58 | yeft | im just running spybot and virus scan before i sleep...and killin time with you fine fella |
| 09:16:59 | yeft | s |
| 09:17:12 | BioHazard | BTW midk: 40-line mode is where you play to get 40 lines as fast as possible |
| 09:17:34 | midk | *not a tetris guru |
| 09:17:35 | BioHazard | usually with a few peices scattered on the board at start |
| 09:17:39 | midk | oh but i am obsessed |
| 09:17:46 | midk | i played tetris on my av320 till the joystick broke |
| 09:17:46 | midk | really. |
| 09:17:53 | BioHazard | :) |
| 09:18:05 | midk | i did that |
| 09:18:07 | midk | I DID THAT |
| 09:18:09 | midk | I SAY I DID |
| 09:18:11 | midk | *eyes pop out |
| 09:18:12 | BioHazard | im now very good at tetris, but i love playing it |
| 09:18:13 | yeft | yo got an av320? |
| 09:18:13 | midk | HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 09:18:26 | midk | yeft: yes wooooo, bio: it's fun |
| 09:18:31 | midk | i dream about the blocks |
| 09:18:36 | midk | i installed BlockFall in Firefox |
| 09:18:38 | yeft | www.tightsystems.com |
| 09:18:42 | midk | so i can play it when i'm bored |
| 09:18:42 | yeft | i cant wait for that sucker |
| 09:19:31 | BioHazard | the tetris plugin would so rock with all that stuff your adding |
| 09:19:49 | BioHazard | if i could figure out how to code for rockbox, id write some stuff |
| 09:19:56 | midk | woowooo |
| 09:20:05 | midk | rockbox is somewhat simple |
| 09:20:21 | BioHazard | but "rockbox C++" is so much different from "the normal C++" |
| 09:20:40 | midk | it's c yo |
| 09:20:49 | BioHazard | like these "rb->" things in front of evrything |
| 09:21:03 | BioHazard | its just "c"? |
| 09:21:14 | midk | ohh |
| 09:21:17 | midk | rb-> is for the api |
| 09:21:22 | midk | rockbox functions |
| 09:21:26 | midk | yeah just c |
| 09:21:35 | midk | in the normal code you use like lcd_update(); |
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| 09:21:39 | midk | that's a rockbox function |
| 09:21:41 | yeft | i almost started to try to learn c so i could almost try and code for rockbox |
| 09:21:42 | BioHazard | but ive seen "//" in the code |
| 09:21:45 | midk | in the plugins you use rb-> |
| 09:21:51 | midk | that's probably jorg's code |
| 09:21:56 | midk | he likes that style |
| 09:22:21 | BioHazard | i thought // didnt work in c |
| 09:22:41 | midk | it works yes yo yo yo |
| 09:22:45 | midk | sorry let me stop the yo yo yos |
| 09:23:29 | BioHazard | i can code a little, but id need somebody to help me with the rockbox "first steps" |
| 09:23:42 | BioHazard | ive already got the compiler working |
| 09:23:48 | midk | oh |
| 09:23:49 | midk | ME ME |
| 09:23:51 | midk | pick me! |
| 09:23:53 | midk | here here |
| 09:23:57 | midk | *waves hand in air |
| 09:24:03 | BioHazard | :) |
| 09:24:10 | yeft | midk did you see the thing at tightsystems? |
| 09:24:21 | midk | heh sorry yeft flash isn't working |
| 09:24:24 | midk | just formatted today |
| 09:24:26 | yeft | (heh just realized your nick is currently out of date) |
| 09:24:32 | BioHazard | but i cant now... its 1:00 here so i need to sleep here pretty quick |
| 09:24:49 | yeft | 3:30 here which means its not 1 there |
| 09:24:51 | midk | BioHazard: see you later then :) |
| 09:25:03 | BioHazard | 3:30 AM? |
| 09:25:13 | midk | 12:30 here |
| 09:25:32 | yeft | yessir |
| 09:25:47 | yeft | just got back from work |
| 09:26:07 | midk | WHOA |
| 09:26:09 | BioHazard | corection, looking at the clock that <i>WORKS</i> its 12:26 AM |
| 09:26:35 | midk | OOH |
| 09:26:39 | midk | bio lives near midky |
| 09:26:46 | midk | where in california or something right |
| 09:27:41 | yeft | are we in agreement video on a pixel screen of the recorder is ridiculously cool, and archos must be in awe? |
| 09:28:05 | midk | yes we are |
| 09:28:11 | midk | did you try the madelbrot |
| 09:28:13 | midk | its gray too |
| 09:28:14 | midk | its ncie |
| 09:28:15 | midk | OYAOHADFHadjh |
| 09:28:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midk |
| 09:28:16 | midk | sorry |
| 09:28:20 | midk | losing control. |
| 09:28:28 | BioHazard | what is the mandelbrot exactly? |
| 09:28:30 | yeft | i saw a screenshot |
| 09:28:41 | BioHazard | is it a fractal? |
| 09:28:45 | yeft | does it just draw it? |
| 09:28:50 | midk | BioHazard: it's like an LCd test to see how fast your target can compute or something |
| 09:29:41 | BioHazard | midk: ill be on tomorrow if you want to help me with coding... |
| 09:29:58 | midk | sure me too bio |
| 09:31:38 | midk | yeft: draws it yes |
| 09:31:42 | midk | and you can zoom, pan, etc |
| 09:32:31 | BioHazard | midk: http://www.geocities.com/zd_biohazard/somecode.zip |
| 09:32:53 | BioHazard | some code to show where im at coding-wise so you know where to start |
| 09:33:14 | midk | ooh |
| 09:33:35 | midk | heh you'll do :) |
| 09:33:56 | midk | all you really have to know is how do to the behind the scenes stuff.. ints, chars, simple things like that |
| 09:34:00 | midk | the rockbox api does the rest |
| 09:34:20 | midk | while, for, etc |
| 09:34:27 | BioHazard | i dont know how to do strings, arrays, or structs |
| 09:34:41 | midk | i don't really either lol |
| 09:34:46 | midk | strings are just chars |
| 09:34:49 | BioHazard | no book ive read can explain it right |
| 09:34:56 | midk | structs, sort of get it |
| 09:35:09 | midk | ok i can help you out with arrays and strings |
| 09:35:17 | midk | structs i think so too |
| 09:35:25 | BioHazard | arrays are so simple! but i cant figure it out >.< |
| 09:35:32 | midk | lol |
| 09:35:54 | midk | char array[3] = { "yo", "yo", "yo" }; |
| 09:38:17 | BioHazard | id love to make a .rock out of this: http://www.geocities.com/zd_biohazard/morecode.zip |
| 09:38:27 | BioHazard | cause im always needing one of those |
| 09:38:46 | midk | calculates tax? |
| 09:38:54 | BioHazard | yea |
| 09:38:57 | midk | woo |
| 09:39:02 | midk | looks fairly simple |
| 09:39:08 | midk | tomorrow we could port that to rockbox |
| 09:39:25 | BioHazard | thatd be cool |
| 09:40:01 | midk | :) |
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| 09:41:14 | BioHazard | ill be on when i can. you around here pretty much always? or do we need to coordinate? |
| 09:42:31 | midk | pretty mcuh always :) |
| 09:42:50 | midk | often from maybe noon tomorrow to 8pm |
| 09:43:41 | BioHazard | oh well ill be there between there and then definetly |
| 09:44:11 | midk | ok |
| 09:44:17 | midk | sounds good |
| 09:45:21 | BioHazard | if i can figure it out, ive got some ideas for some plugins :) |
| 09:45:37 | midk | woohoo |
| 09:45:39 | BioHazard | but for now... im tired... |
| 09:45:43 | midk | let's get you ont eh road :) |
| 09:45:59 | midk | eh go to bed? :D |
| 09:46:19 | BioHazard | so im gonna DL the latest RB build and go to bed |
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| 09:46:34 | midk | ok |
| 09:46:35 | midk | nite bio |
| 09:46:57 | BioHazard | one quick thing: |
| 09:47:34 | midk | sure' |
| 09:47:41 | BioHazard | when developing plugins, can you just compile the rocks or do you need to compile the whole thing? |
| 09:48:14 | midk | well you compile the whole thing, but it only compiles what's been modified after the first few builds |
| 09:48:27 | midk | so just the one plugin if thats' all you're working on |
| 09:49:06 | BioHazard | and i need to test it on the JB itself and not the sim? |
| 09:49:21 | BioHazard | well yea, plugs dont work on the sim huh... |
| 09:50:22 | midk | they do work on the sim |
| 09:50:26 | midk | but i recommend the target |
| 09:50:39 | midk | the sim can be a hassle sometimes |
| 09:50:44 | midk | i never found it that reliable |
| 09:51:01 | BioHazard | and its cumbersome to use |
| 09:51:08 | midk | yeah |
| 09:51:15 | midk | but if you want sure |
| 09:51:43 | BioHazard | even if they did work id still do it on the jb |
| 09:52:01 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 09:52:01 | * | midk claps |
| 09:52:03 | midk | ;) |
| 09:52:10 | BioHazard | but my PC stops recognizing the jb after ~5 unplugs |
| 09:52:51 | BioHazard | i think it confuses windows |
| 09:53:05 | BioHazard | (not like thats hard to do :) ) |
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| 09:53:42 | midk | hmm |
| 09:53:42 | midk | lol |
| 09:54:00 | midk | during a good coding session i do usb plug about... 100 times |
| 09:54:00 | midk | lol |
| 09:54:32 | BioHazard | i can probably figure out a workaround |
| 09:54:47 | BioHazard | like plugging it into one of my other computers |
| 09:54:47 | midk | woo bio |
| 09:54:53 | midk | LOL |
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| 09:54:56 | midk | worth a shot |
| 09:55:29 | BioHazard | "fine, youve had enough of THIS computer? how about this one >:D " |
| 09:57:00 | BioHazard | wasant i supposed to be going to bet about 33 lines ago? |
| 09:57:33 | BioHazard | yea... i think ill do that now... |
| 09:57:48 | midk | lol |
| 09:57:53 | midk | LOL |
| 09:57:56 | midk | ok nite bio |
| 09:57:58 | BioHazard | ill be on tomorrow... then we can start work on that plugin |
| 09:58:14 | midk | *excited |
| 09:58:55 | BioHazard | usually when i ask for help coding in here, i get reluctant responses. so im glad i found somebody who is willing |
| 09:59:41 | midk | definitely |
| 09:59:58 | BioHazard | im lik so tird, im makin speling mistaks |
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| 10:00:18 | midk | omfg i did that a few months ago |
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| 11:13:34 | BC | hi guys - anyone know if structs are packed? |
| 11:30:58 | uski | if they are, unpack them |
| 11:31:01 | uski | (blah ;))) |
| 11:31:03 | BC | LOL |
| 11:31:37 | BC | my new plugin has a couple of array-of-struct, and is just about to hit the 32K barrier :( |
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| 11:35:41 | uski | hmm |
| 11:35:51 | uski | what plugin is it ? |
| 11:36:11 | BC | it's the first card game built on the card-game framework |
| 11:36:42 | BC | "klondike solitaire" |
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| 12:01:04 | uski | ok |
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| 12:20:23 | BC | does anyone know if there is there any way to load a specific font ...eg "5x7" or "Hebrew-Bold" |
| 12:21:04 | c0utta | nope - only by using wps |
| 12:21:36 | BC | damn! Thanks c0utta |
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| 12:29:29 | BC | c0utta: do you know if I can hook back into the wps load_font routine from a plugin? |
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| 12:30:56 | c0utta | there is only an lcd_setfont available in the plugin |
| 12:31:12 | c0utta | so i don't think so |
| 12:31:50 | BC | there has to be SOME way to load a font - I'm just having zero luck on working out how! |
| 12:32:17 | BC | I need a way to evaluate what "int" was assigned to each font |
| 12:36:56 | c0utta | yes, you might have to write your own function for font.c to return the int you require. i know stuff all about fonts though |
| 12:39:28 | BC | hmmm, think I'll leave the core code alone - if i hadn't just run out of ram I'd just use my own font routines :( |
| 12:40:11 | BC | mind you, if there's a way to work it out at run-time, I suppose there is nothing to stop me putting that code in my plugin :) |
| 12:43:26 | c0utta | looking at the font code it's way beyond me |
| 12:46:16 | BC | Thanks for looking dude :) |
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| 14:03:57 | BC | WOW! a fellow brit :) Hello Robbie! |
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| 17:06:15 | Shiber | hey |
| 17:06:40 | Shiber | is there a way to play the files in a directory according to their track numbers in the IDv3 tags, other than generating a playlist that rockbox could follow? |
| 17:07:06 | Shiber | In other words, if I have a directory that contains a specific album, and all the files in that album have their original track number recorded into their IDv3 data, |
| 17:07:15 | Shiber | is is possible to play that directory according to the album order, |
| 17:07:27 | Shiber | except by modifying file names to contain the track number and/or building a playlist? |
| 17:08:27 | BC | no :( |
| 17:08:35 | Shiber | bummer :( |
| 17:08:46 | Shiber | what playlist formats can rockbox read? |
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| 17:08:50 | Shiber | hey |
| 17:08:59 | scott666 | hey |
| 17:09:09 | Shiber | do you know what playlist formats rockbox can read? |
| 17:09:10 | BC | there have been a couple of requests for it, but until someone who can program wants it, it is likely to remain unwritten |
| 17:09:21 | Shiber | lol |
| 17:09:22 | BC | didn't know there were multiple formats |
| 17:09:23 | scott666 | .m3u |
| 17:09:28 | Shiber | oh, that's great |
| 17:09:31 | webmind | .pls |
| 17:09:38 | BC | hey scott ;) |
| 17:09:54 | Shiber | so if i put an .m3u file in a directory and set the 'Follow playlist' option on, i can browse that directory in the same order as in the playlist, right? |
| 17:10:10 | BC | no |
| 17:10:46 | scott666 | follow playlist just lets you leave teh WPS in the directory the song playing is in, instead of the rot |
| 17:10:47 | Shiber | arrgh, this is getting frustrating :( |
| 17:10:50 | scott666 | *root |
| 17:11:12 | BC | i've never quite worked out what follow playlist does - apart from the fact that if you quit during play it will drop you in the directory of the last file being played |
| 17:11:23 | scott666 | it does that ^^^ |
| 17:11:28 | BC | lol |
| 17:11:30 | Shiber | lol |
| 17:11:31 | BC | is that ir? |
| 17:11:33 | BC | it? |
| 17:11:36 | scott666 | yup |
| 17:11:42 | BC | lol |
| 17:11:44 | BC | cool |
| 17:11:54 | scott666 | kinda confusing name |
| 17:12:11 | Shiber | well, if i dump an album into a directory and create a playlist for it with the songs in the same order as in the album, is there any way i can play that album in the correct order just by entering the directory and pressing play? |
| 17:12:27 | BC | yes, higlight the playlist |
| 17:12:35 | scott666 | if you play the playlist |
| 17:12:43 | Shiber | no other way than that, i suppose |
| 17:12:48 | Shiber | well, thanks anyway |
| 17:12:51 | Shiber | oh, one more thing: |
| 17:12:56 | BC | same with Winamp |
| 17:13:09 | Shiber | is is possible to play all of my files in random shuffle? |
| 17:13:19 | BC | yes, build a playlist of them all |
| 17:13:20 | Shiber | that is, every file under root, not just the contents of a certain directory |
| 17:13:23 | Shiber | :( |
| 17:13:26 | Shiber | lol |
| 17:13:36 | BC | lol |
| 17:13:42 | scott666 | what do you have against playlists? |
| 17:13:44 | Shiber | well, thanks a lot |
| 17:13:51 | Shiber | i was just hoping there's an easier solution |
| 17:13:54 | scott666 | ahh |
| 17:13:56 | scott666 | lol |
| 17:13:58 | Shiber | i guess i should've bought an Apple iPod :D |
| 17:13:59 | BC | rockbox will build the list for you if you ask nicely enough |
| 17:14:11 | BC | or learn to code in C |
| 17:14:16 | BC | ...whichever is cheaper |
| 17:14:18 | Shiber | i can code, i'm just lazy |
| 17:14:49 | BC | ah, then you will be needing a LOT of money |
| 17:14:56 | BC | which kinda puts you in a paradox |
| 17:15:02 | uski | BC: lol |
| 17:15:10 | scott666 | lol |
| 17:15:17 | Shiber | well, it's a cruel world |
| 17:15:57 | BC | lol |
| 17:15:59 | uski | well, i see it this way: eat others or get eaten |
| 17:16:04 | uski | eat others = code yourself |
| 17:16:15 | uski | get eaten = give the money to the ones who code and sell their work |
| 17:16:20 | uski | so |
| 17:16:26 | uski | get eaten = buy an iPod |
| 17:16:30 | BC | shit yeah, I'll code for cash :) |
| 17:16:43 | Shiber | well, thanks for all your help |
| 17:16:48 | BC | welcome dude |
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| 17:17:20 | uski | lol |
| 17:17:41 | BC | I got a five-spot says he don't ;) |
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| 18:26:05 | maedhros | What's up with the .voice files? |
| 18:26:28 | BC | generically or specifically? |
| 18:26:38 | maedhros | generically |
| 18:26:46 | BC | they're in beta release |
| 18:27:29 | maedhros | so I need to dl the daily build to use them? |
| 18:28:28 | BC | hm. It's always certainly worth getting the latest build of beta functions - but I could not answer specifically for voice |
| 18:29:32 | BC | the voice stuff is THE active thing atm -do you know of our mailing list? |
| 18:31:39 | maedhros | no.. |
| 18:34:49 | BC | aha - you should discover it - it will keep you up to date with all the beta stuff :) |
| 18:34:55 | maedhros | ok |
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| 19:06:09 | puccino | hi |
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| 19:19:25 | puccino2 | anybody there? |
| 19:20:37 | top_bloke | i am |
| 19:20:49 | puccino2 | I'm a bit concerned because Archos has discontinued the model 500277 ie the |
| 19:21:07 | puccino2 | traditionally designed Jukebox |
| 19:21:37 | top_bloke | theyre old and outdated |
| 19:22:02 | puccino2 | does that just leave us with the version 2 jukebox with the |
| 19:22:23 | puccino2 | earphone plug on the side? |
| 19:22:34 | top_bloke | yeah i guess |
| 19:23:23 | top_bloke | do u have a recorder? |
| 19:23:47 | puccino2 | yes, one that i upgraded to 60 GB |
| 19:24:10 | top_bloke | well if you already have one why do you care |
| 19:24:19 | puccino2 | I've bought another one on ebay just for a back up |
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| 19:24:33 | top_bloke | wow |
| 19:24:41 | top_bloke | u really like that archos huh |
| 19:25:05 | puccino2 | I really like rockbox, is what I like! |
| 19:25:13 | top_bloke | oh |
| 19:25:21 | top_bloke | yeah me too |
| 19:25:48 | top_bloke | but hardware wise the archos sucks |
| 19:25:55 | puccino2 | It's not a big deal I just |
| 19:26:34 | puccino2 | think the archos designer for version 2 didn't think it out very well |
| 19:27:09 | puccino2 | with the earphone plug on the side it's difficult to slip the unit in a shirt pocket |
| 19:27:30 | top_bloke | indeed |
| 19:27:48 | top_bloke | but its got some better features than v1 |
| 19:27:59 | deadite66-2 | if my archos broke i would look at the iAUDIO M3 iAUDIO M3 |
| 19:28:13 | deadite66-2 | http://eng.iaudio.com/ |
| 19:28:16 | top_bloke | does it run rockbox? |
| 19:28:24 | deadite66-2 | nope |
| 19:28:28 | puccino2 | thanks I'll check that out |
| 19:28:32 | top_bloke | then its worthless |
| 19:28:34 | top_bloke | ! |
| 19:28:51 | deadite66-2 | it has bookmarking, mid file resume, wav, wma, mp3 ogg |
| 19:29:07 | puccino2 | what features are better on the version 2?? you were saying... |
| 19:29:13 | top_bloke | M3 sounds like a BMW |
| 19:29:18 | top_bloke | the batteries last longer |
| 19:29:30 | top_bloke | and can charge off usb |
| 19:29:49 | puccino2 | i see |
| 19:30:11 | top_bloke | but then again you cant replace the batteries |
| 19:30:37 | puccino2 | don't like that. |
| 19:31:12 | puccino2 | I just had to replace my batteries after about 9 months |
| 19:31:30 | top_bloke | from stock? |
| 19:31:45 | puccino2 | I'd hate to have to send my AJR back to the company to do that |
| 19:32:10 | puccino2 | yes |
| 19:32:24 | top_bloke | thats pretty good |
| 19:32:30 | top_bloke | 9 months |
| 19:32:40 | puccino2 | Yeah I was really pleased |
| 19:33:18 | puccino2 | So, I just want to see rockbox continue and so |
| 19:33:34 | puccino2 | I just hope the hardware platform doesn' |
| 19:33:43 | puccino2 | doesn't go south |
| 19:33:50 | top_bloke | well maybe they fill find a new platform |
| 19:33:57 | top_bloke | will |
| 19:35:01 | puccino2 | hope so. If these up and coming disk-based mp3 player manufactures were smart |
| 19:35:20 | puccino2 | they'd just take a look a rockbox features and |
| 19:35:39 | puccino2 | include them in their navigatiion software |
| 19:36:05 | top_bloke | but then they'd never update it |
| 19:36:23 | top_bloke | and you couldnt customize every part |
| 19:36:44 | puccino2 | that's true, open source is the most ideal. |
| 19:37:02 | top_bloke | yeah they need to allow open source in more players |
| 19:37:29 | puccino2 | I heard microsoft actually registered a project with Sourceforge |
| 19:37:38 | puccino2 | just recently |
| 19:37:41 | top_bloke | wha? |
| 19:37:48 | top_bloke | thats crazy |
| 19:38:05 | puccino2 | yeah, go to the Sourceforge site. It's in the news |
| 19:39:57 | puccino2 | opensource really works when you developing product that has never-tried-before interface and |
| 19:40:11 | puccino2 | your not sure what people really want |
| 19:40:31 | puccino2 | it just makes sense |
| 19:41:36 | puccino2 | gotta go download 2.2, cheers! |
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| 22:41:10 | uski | hi diddystar5 |
| 22:41:22 | diddystar5 | yo usk |
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| 22:49:31 | midk | hey bio |
| 22:49:34 | BioHazard | yo |
| 22:50:31 | BioHazard | man... i just bought a video card and it wasant as advertised... so now i need to return it :( |
| 22:50:43 | midk | ooh |
| 22:50:46 | midk | aww |
| 22:50:50 | midk | what kind? |
| 22:51:03 | BioHazard | geforce fx 5200 128MB |
| 22:51:24 | midk | hey i've got one of those |
| 22:51:25 | BioHazard | i need one with 2 outputs and s-video |
| 22:51:54 | BioHazard | this one only came with 1 (when the little sign thing said it had 2) |
| 22:52:43 | BioHazard | i dont know why i bought it... i dont really play many games... |
| 22:52:56 | midk | lol |
| 22:53:00 | BioHazard | except ZDoom but that dosen use the video card for anything |
| 22:53:03 | midk | where'd you get it from? |
| 22:53:13 | diddystar5 | ZDoom is old |
| 22:53:16 | BioHazard | circut city |
| 22:53:17 | diddystar5 | get doom legacy :) |
| 22:53:26 | BioHazard | ZDoom is way leeter than legacy |
| 22:53:26 | midk | hmm |
| 22:53:31 | BioHazard | editing-wise anyway |
| 22:53:31 | diddystar5 | legacy.newdoom.com |
| 22:53:33 | midk | oooo |
| 22:53:36 | midk | major burn |
| 22:53:47 | diddystar5 | i dont think so |
| 22:53:59 | diddystar5 | legacy isnt the best looking, but i thiunk it is the best |
| 22:54:04 | BioHazard | once legacy has custom actors and ACS ill switch |
| 22:54:10 | diddystar5 | that doomsday version, looks reallllyy nice |
| 22:54:28 | diddystar5 | the dynamic lighting is awsome |
| 22:54:52 | BioHazard | if i wanted that id play ZDoomGL |
| 22:55:04 | diddystar5 | you dont use rendering? |
| 22:55:13 | BioHazard | nope |
| 22:55:22 | diddystar5 | with rendering it looks 5000x better |
| 22:55:23 | BioHazard | i like it nice and pixelated |
| 22:55:28 | diddystar5 | heh |
| 22:55:31 | midk | lol bio |
| 22:55:45 | BioHazard | although with the hires tex pack it looks nicer |
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| 22:56:27 | BioHazard | by "zdoom is old" do you mean the last update? or the last stable release? |
| 22:56:34 | | Join top_bloke [0] (~ekolb_pot@dsc06-chc-il-209-109-234-186.rasserver.net) |
| 22:56:42 | diddystar5 | its just old |
| 22:56:48 | BioHazard | so is legacy |
| 22:56:51 | diddystar5 | legacy 1.42 was just released |
| 22:57:32 | BioHazard | zdoom 2.0.64 will be out soon (adds abillity to add custom weapons like EDGE can) |
| 22:57:39 | diddystar5 | neat |
| 22:58:22 | BioHazard | 2.0.63 was released last month and added custom definable monsters to DECORATE (not with dehacked) |
| 22:59:07 | BioHazard | no wait... 2.0.64 was released 2/10/04 |
| 22:59:28 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 22:59:36 | | Quit RobbieVox (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:59:46 | BioHazard | 2.0.64 will have strife support (in addition to heretic and hexen) |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:42 | diddystar5 | it.. didn't have that before... |
| 23:00:47 | diddystar5 | legacy does |
| 23:02:40 | BioHazard | legacy does what? strife? |
| 23:03:28 | BioHazard | according to my research, the _ONLY_ things that legacy can do that ZDoom cant are: |
| 23:03:35 | BioHazard | 1. OpenGL |
| 23:03:42 | BioHazard | 2. 3D floors |
| 23:03:46 | BioHazard | 3. crash |
| 23:04:03 | midk | LOL |
| 23:04:10 | midk | oyah |
| 23:04:26 | | Join theBishop [0] (theBishop@adslblock234x128.chesco.com) |
| 23:04:28 | theBishop | hey |
| 23:04:58 | theBishop | how is rockbox compiled? |
| 23:05:02 | diddystar5 | i have to go for a minute |
| 23:05:03 | diddystar5 | see you |
| 23:05:33 | midk | bishop: using an sdk |
| 23:05:41 | lImbus | hi bishop, rockbox is compiled by gcc in a proper environment |
| 23:05:43 | midk | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/beta |
| 23:06:02 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") |
| 23:06:30 | BioHazard | anyway... enough arguing about doom... midk: you ready to start teaching? |
| 23:06:39 | midk | sure bio |
| 23:06:56 | BioHazard | should we do it here in the room, or go to PM? |
| 23:07:08 | midk | pm |
| 23:07:12 | BioHazard | if we did it here it could be good for the logs... |
| 23:07:25 | BioHazard | or somebody else could help if we get stuck |
| 23:07:32 | top_bloke | mid is teaching? |
| 23:07:32 | theBishop | limbus: how do you create the .rock file? |
| 23:07:33 | midk | if we do it here diddystar could pop in and say i should make you use linux |
| 23:07:34 | | Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) |
| 23:07:47 | BioHazard | i dont mind linux :) |
| 23:07:57 | midk | or tell you to get a full cygwin using your setup.log |
| 23:08:00 | BioHazard | i use it regularly |
| 23:08:01 | midk | heh |
| 23:08:11 | midk | i mean |
| 23:08:18 | midk | if we do it here diddystar could pop in and overcomplicate it |
| 23:08:20 | BioHazard | ive compiled rockbox under both of them |
| 23:08:39 | BioHazard | "/mute diddystar5" |
| 23:08:43 | BioHazard | >:) |
| 23:08:53 | midk | heh |
| 23:08:54 | midk | MUTE Unknown command |
| 23:09:10 | BioHazard | "/ignore"? |
| 23:09:17 | midk | oops |
| 23:09:20 | scott666 | "/sqelch"? |
| 23:09:21 | midk | * Ignore is on |
| 23:09:25 | midk | uh oh |
| 23:09:31 | scott666 | *squelch |
| 23:09:33 | midk | DEIGNORE Unknown command |
| 23:09:34 | midk | GAH |
| 23:09:39 | midk | oh there |
| 23:09:42 | midk | it was /ignore off |
| 23:09:46 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:09:52 | BioHazard | :D |
| 23:10:33 | BioHazard | so, what files do i need open? just the .c? |
| 23:10:50 | midk | what are we doing now? |
| 23:11:13 | BioHazard | were converting tax.cpp to a .rock |
| 23:11:35 | midk | i think we should just start from scratch |
| 23:11:49 | BioHazard | that would work |
| 23:12:00 | lImbus | bishop: *.rock's are compiled by make in the big process of compiling the rockbox-software. I am myself experimenting with plugins, but did not try to found out how to do it separately |
| 23:12:07 | midk | start a new C file in /rockbox/apps/plugins |
| 23:12:15 | midk | tax.c or taxcalc.c or whatever :) |
| 23:12:15 | * | BioHazard opens oh holy notepad |
| 23:12:18 | midk | nooo |
| 23:12:20 | midk | textpad! |
| 23:12:26 | midk | nah use what you want :) |
| 23:12:58 | BioHazard | should i update the source files in the build dir? |
| 23:13:09 | midk | rerun make? |
| 23:13:11 | BioHazard | its like 2 months old now |
| 23:13:21 | midk | just do "make clean" |
| 23:13:24 | BioHazard | i mean cvs checkout |
| 23:13:29 | midk | oh |
| 23:13:30 | midk | yes |
| 23:13:32 | midk | lol |
| 23:13:41 | midk | or you could just make a new subdir |
| 23:13:47 | midk | "tax-plugin" or something |
| 23:13:55 | midk | i usually do that to keep /home clean |
| 23:14:13 | midk | home/rockbox/* |
| 23:14:31 | BioHazard | im cvs checkouting |
| 23:14:44 | midk | k |
| 23:15:00 | midk | as soon as apps/plugins exists you can start your c file |
| 23:16:24 | BioHazard | k, checked out |
| 23:16:55 | BioHazard | tax.c created |
| 23:17:06 | midk | ok |
| 23:17:12 | midk | so always in plugins |
| 23:17:19 | midk | you have to have a few things |
| 23:17:28 | BioHazard | should i copy the init stuff out of helloworld.c? |
| 23:17:37 | midk | open helloworld.c in apps/plugins to use the example |
| 23:17:37 | midk | yes |
| 23:17:37 | BioHazard | like the unit check and stuff? |
| 23:17:41 | midk | yup |
| 23:17:53 | midk | #include "plugin.h" |
| 23:18:00 | midk | #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP |
| 23:18:04 | midk | at least for now... |
| 23:18:08 | midk | you've got a rec right? |
| 23:18:13 | BioHazard | well... this will be difficult... notepad dosent like unix linebreaks |
| 23:18:24 | lImbus | ultraedit |
| 23:18:27 | midk | textpad is pretty useful, it can |
| 23:18:42 | midk | it can also auto-indent, colorcode etc |
| 23:18:44 | midk | *wouldn |
| 23:18:49 | midk | *wouldn't code with anything else |
| 23:19:07 | BioHazard | ill check it out here real quick |
| 23:20:05 | midk | and you can debug errors easier cos it has line numbers |
| 23:20:49 | | Quit lImbus (" I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") |
| 23:21:20 | BioHazard | hey... thats a nice app |
| 23:21:33 | midk | does everything i want it |
| 23:21:34 | midk | to |
| 23:21:39 | midk | never found anything that worked as well :) |
| 23:21:54 | midk | tabs are good to |
| 23:21:56 | BioHazard | wow, already its better than notepad |
| 23:22:03 | midk | multiple docs inside of one window |
| 23:22:13 | midk | makes it easier to rip off code :) |
| 23:22:17 | midk | ahem i mean reuse |
| 23:23:15 | | Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting") |
| 23:25:37 | BioHazard | k, got textpad working |
| 23:25:44 | BioHazard | helloworld.c is open |
| 23:25:54 | midk | good |
| 23:26:05 | midk | sec |
| 23:26:14 | | Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") |
| 23:26:22 | | Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) |
| 23:26:27 | midk | ok now |
| 23:26:51 | midk | did oyu get all the init stuff over? |
| 23:27:12 | BioHazard | k, where does it start and where does it end? |
| 23:27:27 | midk | let me open textpad too |
| 23:27:27 | midk | se |
| 23:27:28 | midk | c |
| 23:28:33 | midk | all right |
| 23:28:50 | midk | copy over the #include at the beginning |
| 23:29:16 | midk | that and this: |
| 23:29:17 | midk | static struct plugin_api* rb; |
| 23:29:23 | midk | enum plugin_status plugin_start(struct plugin_api* api, void* parameter) |
| 23:29:23 | midk | { |
| 23:29:27 | midk | TEST_PLUGIN_API(api); |
| 23:29:31 | midk | (void)parameter; |
| 23:29:36 | midk | rb = api; |
| 23:29:44 | midk | that's all |
| 23:30:06 | BioHazard | k, so thats one function? |
| 23:30:15 | midk | no don't close it yet |
| 23:30:18 | | Quit scott666 (Client Quit) |
| 23:30:28 | midk | after all that we start a while loop: |
| 23:30:28 | | Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) |
| 23:30:34 | midk | while(!PLUGIN_OK) |
| 23:30:36 | midk | { |
| 23:30:50 | midk | this loop runs while the plugin is active |
| 23:30:53 | BioHazard | inside plugin_status? |
| 23:30:57 | midk | yup |
| 23:31:43 | BioHazard | k, now what is it comparing PLUGIN_OK to? |
| 23:32:07 | | Join diddystar5 [0] (lee@IC104.library.oregonstate.edu) |
| 23:32:14 | midk | plugin_ok means the plugin is done & finished ok |
| 23:32:27 | midk | to exit the plugin you "return PLUGIN_OK" |
| 23:32:41 | midk | this is saying that while the plugin is *not* ok, <blah> |
| 23:32:42 | diddystar5 | or you can return 0 |
| 23:32:45 | diddystar5 | works just as fine |
| 23:32:48 | midk | god dammit |
| 23:32:51 | midk | what did i say about dids bio |
| 23:32:52 | midk | lol |
| 23:33:08 | BioHazard | so its "while PLUGIN_OK is not..." |
| 23:33:18 | midk | then do whatever's in the brackets |
| 23:33:24 | diddystar5 | you can do while 1 {} |
| 23:33:27 | diddystar5 | also |
| 23:33:29 | BioHazard | if its not what? |
| 23:33:36 | midk | *stays calm |
| 23:33:44 | midk | if it's not "ok" |
| 23:33:51 | midk | plugin_ok means the plugin finished okay |
| 23:34:00 | midk | if it hasn't finished, do this |
| 23:34:09 | midk | "while PLUGIN_OK is not done" |
| 23:34:15 | midk | not true |
| 23:34:29 | BioHazard | BAM! "/ignore diddystar5" *ignore your legacy-using @$$! :D (just till were done with this lesson) |
| 23:34:41 | midk | lol |
| 23:35:06 | diddystar5 | haha |
| 23:35:20 | BioHazard | no hard feelings, i just dont want him confusing me |
| 23:35:37 | midk | ok let's move on |
| 23:35:40 | midk | make sense so far? |
| 23:35:50 | BioHazard | im stuck on this "not" thing |
| 23:36:04 | BioHazard | if its not <i>what</i> |
| 23:36:10 | midk | if it's not true |
| 23:36:19 | midk | if plugin_ok becomes true the plugin exits |
| 23:36:31 | diddystar5 | 0=flase 1=true |
| 23:36:37 | midk | so !PLUGIN_OK means basically while we're not finished with the plugin |
| 23:36:39 | BioHazard | so its "while (plugin_ok != 1)" ? |
| 23:36:44 | diddystar5 | !=not |
| 23:36:51 | midk | !PLUGIN_OK works the same what |
| 23:36:52 | midk | way |
| 23:36:57 | midk | *ignores diddystar too |
| 23:37:01 | diddystar5 | plugin_ok is just like saying 1 |
| 23:37:15 | BioHazard | oh, poor guy |
| 23:37:24 | midk | lol |
| 23:37:29 | midk | dids, pm is still open |
| 23:37:38 | midk | still usable* |
| 23:37:57 | midk | plugin_ok is a bool |
| 23:38:01 | midk | either true or false |
| 23:38:12 | midk | while(PLUGIN_OK) would mean while plugin_ok is true |
| 23:38:18 | midk | while(!PLUGIN_OK) would mean while plugin_ok is false |
| 23:38:23 | BioHazard | ok |
| 23:38:25 | BioHazard | i got it |
| 23:38:28 | diddystar5 | its not bool |
| 23:38:41 | BioHazard | thattl help a lot with deciphering ZDoom ACS stuff |
| 23:39:05 | midk | != 0 would work for an int :) |
| 23:39:27 | midk | ok so now we've got the plugin setup right |
| 23:39:31 | BioHazard | but making an int when it only needs to be a bool wastes memory |
| 23:39:36 | midk | right |
| 23:39:41 | midk | so it happens to be a bool in this case |
| 23:39:44 | diddystar5 | while (midk=asshole) { let_me_talk } |
| 23:40:45 | diddystar5 | have to go |
| 23:40:46 | diddystar5 | one sec |
| 23:40:47 | diddystar5 | brb |
| 23:40:50 | midk | are you somewhat familiar with the rockbox api? |
| 23:40:50 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") |
| 23:40:56 | BioHazard | awwwwww... |
| 23:41:04 | midk | *deignores |
| 23:41:07 | BioHazard | i almost feel bad for him |
| 23:41:17 | BioHazard | *same |
| 23:41:33 | midk | heh he's prolly just rebooting into linux to hack the pc |
| 23:42:05 | BioHazard | k, so while (!pulgin_ok) do {} |
| 23:42:21 | BioHazard | or does it do something in there |
| 23:42:22 | midk | you've got a recorder right? |
| 23:42:28 | BioHazard | yea |
| 23:42:29 | midk | you don't need the do |
| 23:42:32 | midk | ok |
| 23:42:38 | midk | let's make this recorder only for now then |
| 23:42:41 | BioHazard | i know there is no do |
| 23:42:53 | midk | we could also make it dual function.. maybe like a tip calculator or something |
| 23:42:59 | BioHazard | dont we need #ifdef s? |
| 23:43:13 | BioHazard | it was originally a tip calculator |
| 23:43:16 | midk | to make it compile for the recorder only, do "#ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP" right after the #include |
| 23:43:29 | midk | and #endif at the very end after the last closing curly bracket |
| 23:43:59 | BioHazard | question |
| 23:44:15 | midk | sure] |
| 23:44:22 | midk | hope i'm doing ok :) |
| 23:45:06 | BioHazard | if the #ifdef went after the #include, wouldnt it still pull in the plugin.h even for a non-supported platform, thus creating wasting space? |
| 23:45:13 | scott666 | ooh, calculator plugin? |
| 23:45:18 | midk | heh no scott |
| 23:45:31 | BioHazard | not yet anyway ;) |
| 23:45:51 | midk | bio, yes, but if we do it after the #include then it is anyways compiled for the player |
| 23:45:55 | scott666 | didnt someone on the list say they were working on one? or was that you BioHazard? |
| 23:45:56 | midk | but the plugin loader will reject it |
| 23:45:59 | midk | scott: it was i |
| 23:46:44 | midk | scott never got far |
| 23:46:50 | midk | i'll try it later again |
| 23:47:16 | midk | so bio, the reason it's after the #include is because the plugin loader will then compile it for the player so that it can error out: "Wrong model" |
| 23:47:34 | BioHazard | ah |
| 23:47:40 | | Join diddystar5 [0] (lee@IC104.library.oregonstate.edu) |
| 23:47:51 | BioHazard | yea, now that i look at it, your right |
| 23:48:35 | midk | ok let's move on |
| 23:49:07 | BioHazard | while (!PLUGIN_OK){} |
| 23:49:23 | midk | yes' |
| 23:49:37 | midk | now we can start with the calculating portion |
| 23:49:53 | midk | we'll do the interface last |
| 23:49:58 | midk | that should make it easier |
| 23:50:27 | BioHazard | do i put stuff between the {} or create a new function |
| 23:50:48 | midk | whatever you want to run while your plugin is going you put in the { } |
| 23:50:55 | diddystar5 | you put anything legal in c betwene the {}'s |
| 23:50:57 | midk | but to make it more readable let's seperate it into functions |
| 23:51:03 | midk | *ignores |
| 23:51:16 | midk | so let's see |
| 23:51:23 | | Quit theBishop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 23:51:26 | midk | where's your original source? |
| 23:51:34 | midk | we can use it as a guide |
| 23:51:46 | BioHazard | he hasnt done anythin confusing yet, once he does something i dont understand, /ignore again |
| 23:52:10 | BioHazard | you need a link? |
| 23:52:25 | diddystar5 | let me do it, i have actually worked on code for things other than rockbox |
| 23:52:35 | midk | yeah pls |
| 23:52:52 | scott666 | wouldnt designing a calculator be all interface though? |
| 23:52:53 | BioHazard | i know how to code for stuff, just not rockbox |
| 23:52:58 | midk | scott yes |
| 23:53:03 | midk | if you want to help with a ui go ahead |
| 23:53:08 | midk | yeah bio |
| 23:53:12 | midk | can i see your source? |
| 23:53:36 | BioHazard | http://www.geocities.com/zd_biohazard/morecode.zip |
| 23:53:41 | scott666 | but you said you were doing the interface last, so what does that mean youre doing now? |
| 23:53:45 | BioHazard | there i hope thats right |
| 23:53:53 | scott666 | or are we not doing a calculator and im just confused |
| 23:53:56 | BioHazard | were working on something else |
| 23:54:02 | midk | scott not right now |
| 23:54:06 | scott666 | ahh |
| 23:54:09 | scott666 | ok then |
| 23:54:10 | midk | i was gonna do a calc seperately |
| 23:54:20 | BioHazard | i once made a calculator in zdoom |
| 23:54:23 | midk | yeah that's it bio |
| 23:54:24 | scott666 | so what are you doing then? |
| 23:54:25 | diddystar5 | conio.h |
| 23:54:27 | diddystar5 | what is that? |
| 23:54:39 | midk | tax calculator |
| 23:55:20 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:56:06 | BioHazard | k, in tax.cpp we can strip out the instructions |
| 23:56:30 | midk | let's start at the beginning |
| 23:56:32 | midk | we can put |
| 23:56:36 | midk | int i = 500; |
| 23:56:36 | midk | int q; |
| 23:56:50 | midk | after the "static struct plugin_ap *rb;" |
| 23:56:52 | midk | api* |
| 23:57:03 | BioHazard | so, "while (!PLUGIN_OK){ I PUT STUFF HERE }"? |
| 23:57:24 | midk | well yeah |
| 23:57:35 | BioHazard | ok, just needed to clarify |
| 23:57:49 | scott666 | wait....while plugin NOT ok? |
| 23:57:56 | midk | yes scott |
| 23:58:04 | midk | plugin_ok exits |
| 23:58:13 | scott666 | oh |
| 23:58:18 | scott666 | that seems backwards |
| 23:58:23 | midk | i know |
| 23:58:24 | scott666 | i think ill just be quiet now |
| 23:58:24 | scott666 | lol |
| 23:58:27 | midk | heh |
| 23:58:29 | midk | good idea |
| 23:58:36 | midk | *shoves off the stage |
| 23:58:39 | midk | :) |
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