| 00:00:26 | amiconn | Another idea I've come up with (as an intermediate solution) was using something like "grayscale.inc", but I don't want to do so without asking the core crew first. |
| 00:08:33 | BioHazard|486 | so about bitmaps... you think im screwed so far? or do you hae an idea? |
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| 00:10:28 | amiconn | Unfortunately I don't have an idea. If your *BIG STRING OF NUMBERS SEPERATED BY COMMAS* was generated by bmp2rb and your source bmp is also 16x16 resolution it should work. |
| 00:10:57 | BioHazard|486 | 16x16px BMP source |
| 00:11:56 | BioHazard|486 | but its 1-bit not 8 |
| 00:12:07 | BioHazard|486 | might that have anything to do with it? |
| 00:13:27 | amiconn | This is perfectly ok, since this is what bmp2rb expects (I think). Your number string should consist of 32 hexadecimal numbers. If bmp2rb -a shows it correctly I can't imagine why it should fail on the conversion to .c |
| 00:14:24 | BioHazard|486 | well the first comment in the bmp2rbsource is ~"this converts an 8-bit bmp into code" |
| 00:18:28 | amiconn | bmp2rb takes both 8-bit and 1-bit images, see comment at line #241 |
| 00:19:18 | BioHazard|486 | hmm... well then i dont know why its not working... |
| 00:21:20 | amiconn | Did you remove the last comma (before } ) as mattzz suggested earlier? |
| 00:21:28 | BioHazard|486 | yea |
| 00:21:56 | BioHazard|486 | with AND without it there it dosent display properly |
| 00:22:26 | amiconn | Hmm, this is really strange. |
| 00:22:46 | BioHazard|486 | and its like this with 2 different bitmaps |
| 00:25:01 | BioHazard|486 | but earlier i created a bitmap to replace the usb screen and it worked correctly |
| 00:32:33 | BioHazard|486 | maybe i have a broken bmp2rb? |
| 00:35:46 | BioHazard|486 | i do get a compiler warning on that line now |
| 00:36:08 | amiconn | What line and which warning? |
| 00:36:44 | amiconn | (just tried to understand that lcd_bitmap() function.) |
| 00:37:02 | BioHazard|486 | "warning: passing arg 1 of pointer to function discards qualifiers from pointer target type" |
| 00:37:25 | BioHazard|486 | the lcd_bitmap line |
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| 00:42:41 | amiconn | I suppose your bmp_win defintion is verbatim output of bmp2rb and therefore looks like: "const unsigned char bmp_win[] = { ... };" |
| 00:43:59 | BioHazard|486 | i changed it to bmp_win[] from out[] |
| 00:44:34 | amiconn | The point is if there is a "const" or not. |
| 00:44:59 | BioHazard|486 | whats a const? |
| 00:45:10 | amiconn | "const unsigned char..." |
| 00:49:00 | BioHazard|486 | which means what? |
| 00:50:44 | amiconn | If your bitmap array is defined "const" this may cause the compiler warning, because lcd_bitmap() expects it non-constant. |
| 00:51:13 | amiconn | I remember midk also got that warning with his clock plugin improvements. |
| 00:51:40 | amiconn | You could try changing the "const" to "static" and see if the warning goes away (and perhaps it even works correctly). |
| 00:54:44 | BioHazard|486 | no errors |
| 00:55:42 | BioHazard|486 | but it still displays wrong |
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| 01:01:16 | amiconn | Your bitmap is no higher tha 16 pixels and it does not get clipped at the bottom? (No and no if the parameters you supplied eralier are real-world data). |
| 01:01:27 | amiconn | *earlier |
| 01:01:36 | BioHazard|486 | it looks scrambled |
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| 01:03:54 | BioHazard|486 | quitting time! ill be back in an hour or so, then we can continue |
| 01:04:16 | amiconn | Hmm, I think in an hour I won't be here anymore. |
| 01:04:32 | amiconn | (It's already 1 a.m. here) |
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| 02:16:27 | ReaDOnlY | sup sup |
| 02:20:42 | top_bloke | word dawg |
| 02:21:53 | ReaDOnlY | How is it goin |
| 02:22:05 | top_bloke | its aight |
| 02:22:06 | ReaDOnlY | I got an av340 and i wanna mount it in my car to plug into my alpine stereo hardwire |
| 02:22:23 | ReaDOnlY | Was wondering if anyone knew of a stand for it that works well with it mounted lengthwise |
| 02:22:23 | top_bloke | damn thats pimp |
| 02:22:33 | ReaDOnlY | Yeah, i spent 2000 dollars on all new speakers |
| 02:22:35 | ReaDOnlY | Got a 2003 Montero |
| 02:22:47 | top_bloke | nice |
| 02:22:48 | ReaDOnlY | Got MB Quarts and a 1500 watt amp and 2 12" Kickers |
| 02:23:02 | ReaDOnlY | the archos is gonna go directly into the back of the stereo |
| 02:23:11 | ReaDOnlY | But i need a stand to make it look nice on the dash |
| 02:23:16 | top_bloke | oh |
| 02:23:30 | top_bloke | yeah i'd like a stand too for my archos |
| 02:23:33 | ReaDOnlY | then i'll drill and do that audio cable running |
| 02:23:40 | ReaDOnlY | i figure there are PDA stands out there that will work |
| 02:23:44 | ReaDOnlY | But i have been looking and naada |
| 02:24:29 | top_bloke | i just seep it on the center thing where u put your elbow |
| 02:24:32 | top_bloke | keep it |
| 02:24:55 | ReaDOnlY | ya |
| 02:24:59 | ReaDOnlY | But my av340 displays video |
| 02:25:04 | ReaDOnlY | I wanna keep that option open also |
| 02:25:05 | top_bloke | ah |
| 02:25:09 | ReaDOnlY | for my kid |
| 02:25:41 | top_bloke | my solution sucks cause it falls over a lot and that cant be good for it |
| 02:25:50 | top_bloke | fabricate your own stand |
| 02:25:56 | top_bloke | out of like plastic |
| 02:26:03 | ReaDOnlY | haha |
| 02:26:40 | top_bloke | ? |
| 02:27:24 | ReaDOnlY | i want it to look nice |
| 02:27:36 | ReaDOnlY | I am an electrician, I don't do a lot of carpentry |
| 02:28:12 | top_bloke | then i dont know |
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| 02:48:00 | sleep21 | hey |
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| 02:51:12 | top_bloke | yo |
| 02:51:24 | BlueChip | hello mr bloke :) |
| 02:51:33 | sleep21 | hehe |
| 02:51:46 | sleep21 | any developers here? |
| 02:51:46 | top_bloke | hey |
| 02:52:10 | BlueChip | sleep: may i help |
| 02:52:40 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 02:52:40 | * | BlueChip does his impression of a cheesy hypnotist |
| 02:52:57 | sleep21 | hehe |
| 02:53:19 | sleep21 | is USB Mass Storage implemented in the firmware or somewhere else? |
| 02:53:50 | sleep21 | a guy tried to tell me it was just the driver, but i don't think that's right |
| 02:53:51 | BlueChip | hardware - all the f/w does is enable/diable the hardware on recipt of (bc guesses) an interrupt |
| 02:54:11 | sleep21 | its in the hardware? |
| 02:54:32 | BlueChip | its an hitachi USB -> HDD interface chip |
| 02:54:50 | BlueChip | turn it on it works - turn it off it stops |
| 02:55:08 | sleep21 | ah, well I'm starting work on a firmware for the Nomad and it doesn't have such a chip |
| 02:55:28 | BlueChip | ouch! |
| 02:55:40 | sleep21 | there is an NEC USB2 controller chip though |
| 02:55:48 | BlueChip | phew |
| 02:56:13 | sleep21 | the Nomad doesn't support mass storage, that's the main thing i want to implement |
| 02:56:21 | BlueChip | redchair |
| 02:56:24 | BlueChip | ? |
| 02:56:36 | sleep21 | redchair is not a solution |
| 02:56:43 | sleep21 | it's more of a workaround |
| 02:57:03 | BlueChip | right - never really looked at it, just read about it when making my purchase choice |
| 02:57:36 | sleep21 | yeah, it makes the nomad accessible from My Computer, but it doesn't provide drive letter access |
| 02:58:09 | BlueChip | you might be better working on a windoze driver? |
| 02:58:24 | sleep21 | there's a number of problems with that |
| 02:58:50 | sleep21 | it uses a propriatary FS so unless i format it, letter access is a no go |
| 02:59:09 | BlueChip | do the conversion in the drive |
| 02:59:10 | BlueChip | r |
| 02:59:23 | sleep21 | yeah, but then the player wont work |
| 02:59:40 | BlueChip | why's that? |
| 02:59:59 | sleep21 | because it's expecting the normal filesystem |
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| 03:00:20 | BlueChip | that's the point of the driver - to convert between the two standards |
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| 03:02:18 | BlueChip | what are the specs on the nomad hdd format? |
| 03:03:14 | BlueChip | I presume you can do sector reads and writes via the NEC chip? |
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| 03:26:39 | BlueChip | sleep, you still there? |
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| 04:00:22 | sleep21 | hey man |
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| 07:26:15 | Greenlight63 | can somebody please help me |
| 07:26:25 | midk | me me me pick e |
| 07:26:26 | Greenlight63 | my jukebox 20 recoreder wont turn on |
| 07:26:26 | midk | me* |
| 07:26:34 | Greenlight63 | and it wont charge |
| 07:26:38 | midk | hmm |
| 07:26:39 | Greenlight63 | and it wont conntect to the computer |
| 07:26:46 | midk | did you charge the batteries externally? |
| 07:27:09 | Greenlight63 | when i try to do any thi ng the red lite flashs for a few seconds then turns off |
| 07:27:28 | Greenlight63 | im trying to charged extreanally as we speak but i keep getting the red lit thing |
| 07:27:37 | midk | hm |
| 07:27:39 | midk | are you flashed |
| 07:27:42 | midk | rockbox flashed? |
| 07:28:02 | Greenlight63 | dont know |
| 07:28:07 | Greenlight63 | i use rockbox |
| 07:28:12 | midk | did you flash rockbox i mean |
| 07:28:42 | Greenlight63 | what does that mean? |
| 07:29:00 | midk | i suppose not then |
| 07:29:21 | midk | well try charging externally + see what happens |
| 07:29:51 | Greenlight63 | its plugged in right now but its not doing anything |
| 07:29:52 | Greenlight63 | :( |
| 07:30:10 | midk | plugging it in doesnt always help if the batteries are dead |
| 07:30:40 | Greenlight63 | so what should i do? |
| 07:31:08 | midk | 22:29:18 | <midk> well try charging externally + see what happens |
| 07:31:56 | Greenlight63 | does that mean plugg it in? |
| 07:32:14 | midk | take out the batteries + charge them in a charger |
| 07:32:22 | midk | or put in AAs temporarily |
| 07:32:38 | Greenlight63 | i cant |
| 07:32:47 | Greenlight63 | its the archos jukebox recorder 20 |
| 07:32:49 | midk | why not? |
| 07:33:00 | midk | umm |
| 07:33:01 | midk | lol |
| 07:33:09 | dwihno | :) |
| 07:33:19 | midk | the one with the tiny PLAY button? |
| 07:33:24 | midk | yay dwinny |
| 07:33:35 | Greenlight63 | ? |
| 07:33:49 | midk | does it have a very small play button in the center |
| 07:33:54 | midk | or are the buttons sort of flat with the jukebox |
| 07:33:58 | Greenlight63 | yes |
| 07:34:02 | midk | raised/flat |
| 07:34:30 | midk | do the arrows sort of raise up towards the play button |
| 07:35:08 | Greenlight63 | yea |
| 07:35:29 | midk | so you must have the curvy sides, |
| 07:35:30 | midk | ? |
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| 07:36:01 | midk | m lol? |
| 07:36:21 | dwihno | :-) ? |
| 07:37:04 | midk | heh dunno is he coming back |
| 07:37:09 | midk | *runs |
| 07:37:55 | dwihno | Drained batteries should charge with the built in firmware |
| 07:38:26 | midk | he wasnt saying if he flashed or not... |
| 07:38:30 | midk | i assume not |
| 07:38:40 | midk | but i've heard trouble with disk powerup + low batts |
| 07:38:45 | dwihno | yeah |
| 07:38:53 | dwihno | but if you're only charging, it does not spin up the disk |
| 07:39:41 | midk | *claps |
| 07:39:43 | midk | dwinho you take care of it. |
| 07:40:09 | dwihno | Come to chinatown. Ask for Caine. I will help. |
| 07:40:22 | midk | oo |
| 07:40:22 | midk | ok |
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| 07:54:53 | midk | linusn yay |
| 07:55:39 | dwihno | Yay \o/ |
| 07:55:56 | midk | \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ |
| 07:56:46 | LinusN | yo |
| 07:57:11 | midk | yay linus |
| 07:57:14 | midk | *throws party |
| 07:57:37 | dwihno | Party? On a wednesday? :) |
| 07:57:49 | midk | *pretends it's saturday |
| 07:59:35 | dwihno | That should do the trick \o/ |
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| 08:00:20 | midk | lol |
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| 08:25:09 | LinusN | amiconn: hi |
| 08:25:27 | LinusN | i have made some new measurements |
| 08:28:19 | LinusN | the old measurements were wrong (probably loose ground) |
| 08:28:42 | LinusN | it looks perfect now, i'll put up some result on my web page during the day |
| 08:28:57 | * | LinusN is heading to the lab to debug his flash algorithms |
| 08:29:31 | dwihno | LinusN: neat stuff coming up? |
| 08:29:32 | amiconn | :) I guess it would be ok to commit the new recording routines then. |
| 08:31:56 | LinusN | amiconn: yes |
| 08:32:03 | LinusN | dwihno: no, work stuff |
| 08:32:45 | dwihno | LinusN: well, work is occasionally neat as well :) |
| 08:41:49 | midk | nite all |
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| 08:43:24 | amiconn | LinusN: Before I commit the new recording routines, should I take out the C variant along with the #define, or is it desirable to keep it? |
| 08:45:02 | LinusN | take it out, it is still in the cvs history if we want it back |
| 08:46:19 | amiconn | Ok. I think I will commit it this evening, after having a look at your new measurements. |
| 08:47:10 | LinusN | sure |
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| 09:16:35 | Lynx0 | good morning! |
| 09:17:45 | LinusN | hi |
| 09:17:56 | Lynx0 | hi! |
| 09:18:17 | Lynx0 | As you might have guessed i have question... |
| 09:18:55 | Lynx0 | I haven't looked at rockbox for a few months and just installed the latest build, and am wondering how the voice thing works... |
| 09:19:13 | Lynx0 | I mean, how do i invoke it to read the filenames, directories and so on? |
| 09:19:48 | LinusN | Lynx0: not to be rude or anything, but why not read the mailing list archives? |
| 09:21:05 | LinusN | i'll answer your question, though |
| 09:21:09 | Lynx0 | to be honest, I always find that kind of difficult, especially if one doesn't know when the feature was implemented. there are just too many posts with "voice" or whatever in the topic |
| 09:21:55 | LinusN | 1) download english.voice from http://rockbox.haxx.se/lang/ and put it in .rockbox/langs/ |
| 09:22:10 | Lynx0 | did that...:-) |
| 09:22:57 | LinusN | 2) for each directory you want spelled, put a file called .dirname.tbx in it |
| 09:23:26 | LinusN | the .dirname.tbx file is a simple .mp3 file renamed to .dirname.tbx |
| 09:23:59 | LinusN | this file is played when you enter or hover (depending on your voice settings) the directory |
| 09:24:23 | Lynx0 | i set the directory spelling to yes, i guess i don't need the tbx file then? |
| 09:24:30 | LinusN | there are ways of generating the .dirname.tbx files with a script and a text-to-speech engine |
| 09:24:42 | Lynx0 | what does hover mean? |
| 09:24:49 | LinusN | if you want to spell it, you don't need the .tbx files |
| 09:25:19 | LinusN | hover == letting the cursor stay on the directory name in the browser |
| 09:28:28 | Lynx0 | Hmm, I forgot to copy the .voice file again after updating, that explains it... |
| 09:29:51 | Lynx0 | and now that i found that, usb mode stops working... |
| 09:30:12 | LinusN | ? |
| 09:31:46 | Lynx0 | the box goes into usb mode, but windows does not do anything. I doubt it's a rockbox problem, though. worked yesterday... |
| 09:34:52 | LinusN | annoying... |
| 09:35:08 | LinusN | windows doesn't recognize it at all? |
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| 09:35:26 | LinusN | have your other drive letters changed since yesterday? |
| 09:38:19 | Lynx0 | no, they haven't |
| 09:38:40 | Lynx0 | but if the box goes into usb mode, it can't be the cable, right? |
| 09:40:26 | LinusN | guess not |
| 09:40:52 | Lynx0 | hmm, only one of my 3 usb ports works, if i exchange the mouse for the archos, it works. |
| 09:41:04 | LinusN | ouch |
| 09:41:31 | Lynx0 | toshiba laptops aren't what they used to be, i guess |
| 09:44:27 | Lynx0 | Ok, after clicking around in the system settings in windows, it works again. so windows is not what is never was, then. |
| 09:48:02 | Lynx0 | is there any other setting i have to change except in the 'voice' menu in the general settings? |
| 09:59:53 | LinusN | not that i know oif |
| 10:00 |
| 10:03:27 | Lynx0 | because it's still not working... |
| 10:04:39 | LinusN | what is not working? the talking menus? |
| 10:11:12 | Lynx0 | yes |
| 10:12:04 | LinusN | latest daily build? |
| 10:12:28 | LinusN | and the voice file is really .rockbox/langs/english.voice? |
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| 10:29:17 | mattzz | hi ho |
| 10:34:10 | mattzz | LinusN: it takes a long time for the checkbox patches to make it into CVS ;-) |
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| 10:45:49 | LinusN | mattzz: :-) |
| 10:46:44 | [IDC]Dragon | what's that patch doing? Checkboxes right in the menu tree? |
| 10:47:01 | LinusN | just implements a checkbox widget |
| 10:47:20 | mattzz | [IDC]Dragon: it simply puts a checkbox in all boolean setting dialogs |
| 10:47:24 | LinusN | the next patch uses it for bool settings |
| 10:47:46 | [IDC]Dragon | is it left or right aligned? |
| 10:47:55 | LinusN | left |
| 10:47:55 | mattzz | I'd like to do somethings about the look of the settings dialogs with more than one option as well |
| 10:48:18 | LinusN | ultimately, i want the settings to be on one screen |
| 10:48:37 | [IDC]Dragon | so it needs empty space there, moving the other settings, or moves only the bool settings? |
| 10:49:02 | mattzz | [IDC]Dragon: correct, strings are shifted by 2 places |
| 10:49:13 | [IDC]Dragon | I was once thinking about similar, having the value right-aligned |
| 10:49:32 | mattzz | [IDC]Dragon: the checkbox widget can be placed anywhere |
| 10:50:02 | [IDC]Dragon | using an extra line if it doesn't fit, the same if it fits |
| 10:50:12 | mattzz | the integration in the settings.c was a first shot |
| 10:50:29 | * | [IDC]Dragon is afj |
| 10:51:31 | mattzz | LinusN: So some ideas for setting dialogs are: Navigation, highlighting (grayscales?) |
| 10:53:24 | Lynx0 | LinusN: language was set to german, now it works :-) |
| 10:53:58 | LinusN | Lynx0: :-) |
| 10:54:14 | LinusN | mattzz: navigation? highlighting? |
| 10:54:36 | Lynx0 | now i need someone who knows windows nt ;-) |
| 10:55:48 | dwihno | Windows NT and USB doesn't mix. |
| 10:55:57 | dwihno | Unless you use some fishy third-party USB stack |
| 10:57:26 | mattzz | LinusN: I was thinking about a settings dialog with different widgets: checkboxes, radiobuttons, drop down lists. To select the item we'll have to navigate to it. There for we would need some way of highlighting the chosen widget. |
| 10:57:47 | mattzz | LinusN: currently we have one screen for each setting. |
| 10:58:24 | dwihno | mattzz: drop down lists, inverting the current selection |
| 10:58:40 | dwihno | mattzz: I fiddled around with that during christmas, and never caught up with it again... |
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| 11:01:06 | mattzz | dwihno: I see the problem with drop down lists that we would have to do much graphical stuff, i.e. restoring of content rectangles and stuff like that... :-/ |
| 11:02:11 | mattzz | dwihno: And than there is the thingy with different font sizes.... |
| 11:03:37 | LinusN | and Players |
| 11:04:00 | dwihno | yeah |
| 11:04:07 | dwihno | players must keep the ugly layout |
| 11:04:08 | dwihno | :-) |
| 11:04:49 | mattzz | will be a lot of ifdef stuff as long as we want to maintain both models in one file |
| 11:04:58 | amiconn|work | mattzz: Imho it would be nice to use checkboxes for boolean settings (several settings on one screen possible). For multiple choice settings I would suggest a list of values with radiobuttons (one setting per screen). |
| 11:05:16 | dwihno | indeed |
| 11:05:24 | mattzz | amiconn|work: as used in the original archos firmware? |
| 11:05:40 | dwihno | I've been thinking about refactoring my sound settings menu and make it up-to-date as well |
| 11:05:59 | LinusN | i'd like a single menu, where i could move the cursor with up/down and cycle the options with left/right |
| 11:06:15 | amiconn|work | Hmm, I can't remember if the original fw uses it, but it happens that my cellphone works that way, imho this is quite inituitive. |
| 11:08:04 | dwihno | sound settings should be topmost and not bookmarking! *rant rant rant* |
| 11:08:04 | dwihno | : |
| 11:08:05 | dwihno | :) |
| 11:08:43 | amiconn|work | LinusN: This will be quite difficult to fit on one line for multiple-choice settings, esp. with larger fonts. It should be possible for boolean and numeric settings though |
| 11:09:19 | LinusN | multi-choice could be two-liners |
| 11:09:37 | amiconn|work | dwihno: As I don't use either of them often, it really doesn't matter for me |
| 11:09:39 | LinusN | and gauges as well |
| 11:10:12 | dwihno | amiconn|work: I use different sound setups (my home stereo equipment and two completely different headphones) |
| 11:11:44 | amiconn|work | dwihno: I do also use different sound setups (Headphone, car stereo with cassette adapter, and home stereo). I've made .cfg files for that to change this with one selection. |
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| 11:12:08 | dwihno | amiconn|work: I should as well... but I'm lazy; I guess |
| 11:12:29 | * | [IDC]Dragon is back |
| 11:13:29 | amiconn|work | LinusN: Using two lines may be possible, but this way (as well as with the current layout) you cannot see all possible choices for multiple-choice settings, which would be more intuitive imho. |
| 11:13:40 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought about two lines per entry (if it doesnt fit in one), one for the cation, left-aligned, one for the value, right aligned |
| 11:14:15 | [IDC]Dragon | just to get the overview. when changing an entry, you can still have a screen. |
| 11:14:54 | dwihno | Hm. I've forgotten how my test stuff looked. |
| 11:15:14 | mattzz | we could also use small up/down triangles like a spin button widget to show that there are more options in the list |
| 11:15:48 | [IDC]Dragon | How's all that on a player? |
| 11:16:04 | mattzz | The player should be treated completely different |
| 11:16:27 | [IDC]Dragon | Or would is be feasible to have the menu in a data structure, and different code to walk that? |
| 11:16:28 | mattzz | when it come to UI I guess the player needs a different concept |
| 11:16:55 | dwihno | Yeah |
| 11:17:19 | mattzz | what we did so far is that we had the same settings UI for player and recorder |
| 11:17:37 | dwihno | We should take advantage of the LCD. |
| 11:17:45 | amiconn|work | Imo simple widgets like checkbox and radio button are possible on the player too, since there are at least 4 user-definable characters. |
| 11:17:59 | dwihno | Icons, for instance |
| 11:18:51 | LinusN | no point in having radio buttons on the player since there are only two lines on the lcd |
| 11:19:07 | LinusN | one line for the setting name and one line for the choice |
| 11:19:11 | mattzz | but a checkbox would be feasable |
| 11:19:15 | LinusN | yup |
| 11:19:41 | LinusN | still, i find a simple "yes" or "no" equally good |
| 11:20:10 | [IDC]Dragon | With an eye on porting Rockbox, the internal menu should be independent from the UI look+feel |
| 11:20:28 | LinusN | a checkbox steals one or even two valuable char cells, leaving only 9 chars left for the setting name |
| 11:20:33 | dwihno | That's also true. |
| 11:20:54 | [IDC]Dragon | so you have the same internal structure, but a platform-dependent code to present it. |
| 11:21:51 | mattzz | I like the UI for the player. wasting valuable chars is an issue. |
| 11:22:37 | [IDC]Dragon | This is why I'm voting for a data structurerepresenting the menu. |
| 11:23:08 | LinusN | i can imagine an object-oriented approach to the settings |
| 11:23:15 | LinusN | each setting being an object |
| 11:23:17 | mattzz | [IDC]Dragon: list of lists? |
| 11:23:29 | [IDC]Dragon | something like that |
| 11:23:35 | LinusN | list of lists of objects |
| 11:24:13 | Lynx0 | bye, thx Linus |
| 11:24:17 | mattzz | ok, so we agree on a major rewrite of settings*.* |
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| 11:24:26 | LinusN | mattzz: yup |
| 11:24:37 | [IDC]Dragon | and we agree on mattzz doing it ;-) |
| 11:24:42 | LinusN | hehe |
| 11:25:04 | * | mattzz switched off his monitor |
| 11:25:08 | * | LinusN walks to the lab |
| 11:25:25 | mattzz | [IDC]Dragon: I did a first step ;-) |
| 11:25:28 | dwihno | erhm |
| 11:25:30 | * | [IDC]Dragon focuses on work |
| 11:25:36 | dwihno | how do you disable the help boxes on the bottom? :) |
| 11:25:46 | mattzz | [IDC]Dragon: but it hasn't even made it into cvs ;-) |
| 11:26:28 | amiconn|work | Probably the most "shining" solution (at the one with most effort): |
| 11:26:28 | amiconn|work | For each settings (sub-)menu there is one line (possibly two) per setting |
| 11:26:28 | amiconn|work | - The setting name is left aligned |
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| 11:26:28 | amiconn|work | - For boolean values, there is a right aligned checkbox |
| 11:26:29 | amiconn|work | - For both numeric values and multiple-choice, the value is shown right aligned too |
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| 11:26:29 | amiconn|work | - You can navigate with up / down through the different settings |
| 11:26:31 | amiconn|work | - left/right changes the current value |
| 11:26:33 | amiconn|work | All of the above are possible with both player and recorder |
| 11:26:35 | amiconn|work | - Additional feature (recorder only): if you press "play" over a multiple-choice setting, |
| 11:26:37 | amiconn|work | it would some king of a window showing all possible choices with radio buttons. |
| 11:26:53 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn|work: typing very fast? |
| 11:27:19 | amiconn|work | This was prepared in notepad first, then pasted |
| 11:27:53 | [IDC]Dragon | you can get disconnected for flooding |
| 11:28:11 | mattzz | flooding with good ideas should not lead to a kick |
| 11:28:16 | mattzz | ;-) |
| 11:28:21 | mattzz | stupid bots |
| 11:28:49 | [IDC]Dragon | remember the player has only 11 chars or so in a line |
| 11:28:57 | amiconn|work | Grr, *it would open some kind of a window... |
| 11:29:15 | [IDC]Dragon | Generally, I agree |
| 11:29:42 | amiconn|work | [IDC]Dragon: That's why I wrote "one line (possibly two) per setting" |
| 11:30:14 | [IDC]Dragon | let's leave that to the "presentation engine" |
| 11:30:43 | [IDC]Dragon | the first step would be to come up with an internal representation |
| 11:31:15 | [IDC]Dragon | the you can maybe even exchange the GUI (at compile time) to personal taste. |
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| 11:31:44 | * | mattzz thinks about an xml parser.... |
| 11:32:01 | [IDC]Dragon | bury that thought deeeeep |
| 11:32:10 | mattzz | [x] done |
| 11:32:54 | mattzz | currently we have one huge, flat struct, right? |
| 11:33:19 | [IDC]Dragon | we have a bunch of functions |
| 11:33:50 | mattzz | I mean for the storage of settings and their kind of parameters |
| 11:33:57 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
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| 11:55:54 | amiconn|work | [IDC]Dragon: I did some research if it is possible to extend my voice generation script to work with sapi 4. Unfortunately I did not find a way to redirect sapi 4 output to a file. |
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| 12:09:28 | Strath | rewrote my aos java code in C: http://www.donat.org/michael/archos/files.html |
| 12:10:09 | Strath | should be useful for reverse engineering Gmini firmware files |
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| 13:03:22 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn|work: still there? |
| 13:03:47 | [IDC]Dragon | SAPI4 can "speak" into a file, I'm working on that. |
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| 13:34:29 | * | amiconn|work is also back from lunch. |
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| 13:37:56 | amiconn|work | [IDC]Dragon: I would like to know how "speaking" to a file works with sapi 4 so I can integrate that into my script. I think it's easier to maintain than a compiled program, e.g. if someone wants to integrate a replacement list for a new language etc. |
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| 13:43:33 | HellArioch | hi m8z... |
| 13:43:57 | c0utta | l o |
| 13:45:32 | HellArioch | Could someone orient me to a place that discuss about PHILIPS HDD100 MP3 PLAYER SOFTWARE ?? (i hope u're not all archos integrists here !!! ehehe) |
| 13:45:53 | uski | HellArioch: Google |
| 13:46:37 | HellArioch | i don't find anything in google but a replacement that allow the file copy from the comp to the player... |
| 13:46:45 | HellArioch | nothing like rockbox |
| 13:47:05 | uski | perhaps there is not anything like rockbox then |
| 13:47:30 | HellArioch | sure... but i wanted to be sure... ehe |
| 13:47:34 | uski | :) |
| 13:48:15 | HellArioch | thanks uski and maybe cYA again... |
| 13:48:19 | uski | ;) |
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| 13:55:34 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn|work: I'm not very responsive while working. |
| 13:55:55 | [IDC]Dragon | SAPI4 is COM as well |
| 13:56:08 | [IDC]Dragon | The SDK documents the interfaces |
| 13:56:37 | [IDC]Dragon | there is a sample (Windows) application that talks into a file. |
| 13:57:39 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't know if a script can also do such, they implemented an interface which they hand over to the TTS engine, for some kind of callback. |
| 13:58:40 | [IDC]Dragon | But the interface implementation is practically empty, it's just to know when the TTS is done. |
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| 14:13:03 | amiconn|work | The problem is that I don't find the sapi 4 sdk documentation on msdn. Scripting sapi doesn't use COM directly, but uses ActiveX. |
| 14:13:38 | [IDC]Dragon | have you downloaded the SDK? |
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| 14:20:17 | davidsnot | anyone got a solution for an i2c error? |
| 14:20:26 | uski | what is the exact error ? |
| 14:20:40 | davidsnot | just comes up with I 2 C error |
| 14:21:00 | davidsnot | doesn't play anymore. was running 2.2, have been for a week now. |
| 14:22:30 | uski | hmm |
| 14:22:57 | davidsnot | I'm not panicking yet, it's sweet firmware. |
| 14:23:05 | davidsnot | kind of dying to get inside it, too. |
| 14:24:58 | amiconn|work | [IDC]Dragon: I didn't download the sdk for sapi 4 since I don't find it at msdn. I did download the sdk for sapi 5.1 though. |
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| 14:34:21 | LinusN | davidsnot: did you drop it or anything? |
| 14:35:31 | LinusN | it could be as simple as a loose ground pin |
| 14:46:36 | davidsnot | last night, turned it off, then an hour later turned it on. |
| 14:46:51 | davidsnot | been treating it like a baby. |
| 14:47:11 | davidsnot | ground pin on what? |
| 14:50:25 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn|work: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=7D13964C-06FD-4BF9-B49C-814FAA6A86EA |
| 14:57:04 | LinusN | davidsnot: there are several solder pads that connect the main PCB to the chassis ground, if one or more of them are loose, it may behave erratically |
| 14:57:18 | davidsnot | gotcha |
| 14:57:28 | LinusN | but i must say that i've never heard of i2c errors before |
| 14:58:18 | amiconn|work | [IDC]Dragon: Thanks for the link, just downloading now. |
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| 14:58:57 | davidsnot | this last time I tried to boot, it came up <hard disk> and a timer under it. One other symptom is that when a track is paused, pushing play, the pause icon stays on, along with the play icon. |
| 14:59:03 | ReaDOnlY | sup |
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| 15:02:33 | LinusN | davidsnot: Player? |
| 15:02:44 | davidsnot | jukebox studio 20 |
| 15:02:55 | LinusN | have you tried to replace the batteries? |
| 15:03:21 | davidsnot | these are fresh 2200 nimh, but I have another set I can try |
| 15:03:45 | LinusN | also check if it's any different with the charger attached |
| 15:04:09 | davidsnot | sure will give me a few minutes. you sticking around a while? |
| 15:04:11 | LinusN | it could very well be a battery/power problem |
| 15:04:24 | LinusN | sure, i'll be here |
| 15:04:30 | davidsnot | gr8 |
| 15:05:03 | ReaDOnlY | Morning everyone |
| 15:05:21 | LinusN | ReaDOnlY: morn |
| 15:05:37 | ReaDOnlY | Anyone happen to know a good place to get s tand for a av300 for the car? |
| 15:05:46 | ReaDOnlY | i want it to look nice in my car hehe |
| 15:06:54 | LinusN | i have no idea |
| 15:07:11 | amiconn|work | LinusN: Did you put up your new recording measurements meanwhile? |
| 15:07:11 | davidsnot | LinusN: fresh batteries and on the charger I2 C error after the boot. |
| 15:07:52 | LinusN | amiconn|work: had to prioritize work... |
| 15:08:11 | LinusN | davidsnot: any difference if you squeeze the blue bumpers? |
| 15:08:19 | amiconn|work | It's perfectly ok, I just wanted to know. |
| 15:08:34 | davidsnot | towards each other side to side or end to end? |
| 15:08:52 | LinusN | end to end |
| 15:09:28 | LinusN | wiggle it in different directions to see if there is a loose connection somewhere |
| 15:11:31 | ReaDOnlY | http://www.generationmp3.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2414 i found this but that looks custom made hehe |
| 15:11:50 | ReaDOnlY | And i can't read french =( |
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| 15:12:20 | davidsnot | squeezing the bumpers gets me past the i2c, and it's playing now. what's that point me to? |
| 15:12:34 | davidsnot | LinusN, you seem to be good at this! |
| 15:13:29 | LinusN | :-) |
| 15:13:46 | davidsnot | where's the loose connection? |
| 15:13:50 | LinusN | davidsnot: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/repairbattery.html |
| 15:14:26 | LinusN | are you handy with a soldering iron? |
| 15:14:53 | davidsnot | pcb designer, familiar with surface mount, full set of tools :) handy job for me. |
| 15:15:09 | * | uski thinks that Archos should pay LinusN to be a repair-guy ;) |
| 15:15:24 | LinusN | hehe, i could work at newmp3tech :-) |
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| 15:17:14 | davidsnot | appreciate the help LinusN! |
| 15:17:24 | davidsnot | And nice job on the software, too. |
| 15:17:48 | LinusN | thx |
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| 15:18:08 | uski | what do they do at newmp3tech ? |
| 15:21:44 | LinusN | http://www.newmp3technology.com/ |
| 15:21:56 | LinusN | archos repairs, among other things |
| 15:21:59 | uski | k |
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| 15:39:37 | LinusN | time to go home |
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| 15:50:44 | uski | is it me or there is not any bleeding edge anymore ? |
| 15:50:56 | uski | the status has not been upgraded for 2 days |
| 15:54:24 | amiconn|work | uski: The bleeding edge only gets updated if something changes in cvs |
| 15:56:19 | uski | ok |
| 15:56:26 | uski | thx |
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| 16:11:25 | Juke | Hi all.... I got my jukebox Recorder 20 yesterday and before I had a change to put RockBox in... It simply won't even start today. Did I buy a piece of garbage or was I simply unlucky?? Thanks |
| 16:11:46 | BlueChip | AA betteries? |
| 16:11:52 | BlueChip | bAtteries? |
| 16:12:01 | Juke | dunno.. its internal |
| 16:12:05 | BlueChip | then no |
| 16:12:15 | Juke | I charged it... |
| 16:12:16 | BlueChip | Fm? |
| 16:12:23 | Juke | no, not the fm version |
| 16:12:31 | BlueChip | ok, so you have a "ver 2" |
| 16:12:37 | Juke | yep |
| 16:12:42 | BlueChip | second hand? |
| 16:12:45 | moccino | do you know an firmware for av140 with games,...???? |
| 16:12:46 | Juke | amazon |
| 16:12:55 | Juke | new |
| 16:13:08 | BlueChip | moccino: check avos.sourceforge ;) |
| 16:13:35 | BlueChip | Juke: it worked yesterday? |
| 16:13:44 | Juke | yes.. everything worked fine |
| 16:14:12 | BlueChip | have you dropped it or given it any shock? (techie Q, not sales Q) |
| 16:14:29 | Juke | not at all.... it was in my table all day |
| 16:14:51 | Juke | i cant even charge the thing..... the charging screen doesnt even come up |
| 16:14:54 | moccino | i have already shearch bluechip, but i haven't see an firmware with game for av140, can you help me bluechip?? |
| 16:15:05 | moccino | plz |
| 16:15:15 | BlueChip | moccino: sadly I think you need to wait longer for new firmware :( |
| 16:15:25 | BlueChip | ask on #avos :) |
| 16:15:59 | moccino | there are french people??? |
| 16:16:11 | Juke | For what I've been reading online... I'm wasting my time by trying to contact tech support. |
| 16:17:30 | BlueChip | Juke: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I think you have just struck unlucky and need a replacement - there are known issues with the battery connector - if it were 2nd hand I would say pop the back of and check that the battery in firmly in place - as it is new - I can only suggest you get a replacemnt from amazon - good news is they are good are replacing kit :) |
| 16:17:57 | BlueChip | yeah, screw archos tech support :( |
| 16:18:48 | Juke | That is what i suspected.... Thanks a lot though. Should I stick with another version 2 or do you have any better suggestions? |
| 16:18:50 | BlueChip | moccino: to my knowledge there are no FR hackers for avos |
| 16:19:15 | BlueChip | If you can get a ver 1 - do it ...do not bother with the FM, the radio is pants |
| 16:19:40 | Juke | What is the difference with ver 2? |
| 16:19:50 | Juke | shouldn't it be better :) |
| 16:20:31 | BlueChip | No, they had to remove the digital out for (c) reasons |
| 16:20:39 | BlueChip | AA batteries are easily replaceable |
| 16:21:18 | BlueChip | sure there was a third thing, but it eludes me right now |
| 16:21:50 | Juke | ohhh I see.... AA batteries. Cool. Thanks a lot for everything |
| 16:21:51 | BlueChip | of course the v1 is slightly bigger and heavier because of the batteries |
| 16:22:02 | BlueChip | welcome dude :) |
| 16:22:25 | Juke | Have a good day!, bye |
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| 17:52:45 | zman1 | anyone around to answer a newbie interface question? |
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| 17:58:03 | z_man_barzel | anyone around to answer a newbie interface question?? |
| 17:58:09 | mattzz | shoot |
| 17:58:40 | z_man_barzel | here goes, I have my mp3s in folders like this |
| 17:58:51 | z_man_barzel | Artist/Album/mp3 |
| 17:59:23 | z_man_barzel | i can go next to an album folder and hit on+play and it'll set up a playlist and randomly play the album |
| 17:59:38 | z_man_barzel | but if i do this next to an Artist folder, it does nothing |
| 17:59:40 | z_man_barzel | any ideas? |
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| 18:00:10 | mattzz | did you check the recursive option? (I am no expert when it comes to playlists though) |
| 18:00:23 | z_man_barzel | where/what's that? |
| 18:02:09 | mattzz | settings-> playlist options recursively insert directories |
| 18:02:20 | mattzz | (using a bleeding edge build) |
| 18:02:51 | z_man_barzel | ahhh |
| 18:02:59 | z_man_barzel | me feel big dumb |
| 18:03:22 | z_man_barzel | strange that that wouldn't be default |
| 18:03:29 | z_man_barzel | thanks a bunch |
| 18:03:36 | mattzz | no prob ;-) |
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| 18:12:50 | [IDC]Dragon | mattzz: you there? |
| 18:16:29 | mattzz | yup |
| 18:16:38 | mattzz | wassup? |
| 18:17:09 | [IDC]Dragon | there was just a Delta question popping up, but now M. Oettelt is gone |
| 18:17:21 | mattzz | argh - I'm gone.... |
| 18:17:27 | [IDC]Dragon | OK. |
| 18:17:32 | [IDC]Dragon | never mind |
| 18:17:34 | mattzz | just kidding |
| 18:25:16 | mattzz | [IDC]Dragon: sent you an email |
| 18:26:04 | mattzz | gotta leave - c u |
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| 19:58:49 | louie-dog | yesterday i got my first archos box, it's a recorder v2. i only used the archos firmware for about 3 minutes before i put on the latest rockbox daily which works fine for me. right now i'm trying to flash the player following the instructions from the manual but when i copy the files from flash_rec.zip it's loading the original archos firmware and not rockbox, any idea what i could be doing wrong? |
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| 20:02:51 | amiconn | If you have a v2, you will need flash_v2.zip |
| 20:03:27 | louie-dog | ah ok, the manual only lists _rec and _fm |
| 20:04:24 | louie-dog | thanks |
| 20:05:27 | amiconn | np |
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| 20:23:26 | Ventzislav | hello |
| 20:23:36 | Ventzislav | I have a major proble |
| 20:23:38 | Ventzislav | m |
| 20:23:56 | Ventzislav | I just uploaded RockBox |
| 20:24:29 | Ventzislav | but as soon as I start it, I get a Dir buffer if full message |
| 20:24:44 | Ventzislav | then I get an empty screen with a cursor |
| 20:24:47 | Ventzislav | any help? |
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| 20:25:57 | amiconn | Ventzislav: See http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html , Question 76 |
| 20:26:33 | Ventzislav | I had 5 files when I first installed it |
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| 20:27:12 | Ventzislav | how do i change the settings? |
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| 21:39:42 | beerli | hello. got a harddiskproblem on my fm recorder. vfat.fsck says bootsector doesn't equal it's backup. but the mashine actually boots. |
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| 21:40:00 | beerli | do you know if it's safe to copy the bootsector to his backup? |
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| 21:53:27 | amiconn | Hi |
| 21:53:41 | [IDC]Dragon | Hi Jens |
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| 21:54:14 | amiconn | I think I am completely braindead. I've just deleted my MakeVoices script by accident :(( |
| 21:54:47 | [IDC]Dragon | oh, no backup nowhere? |
| 21:55:09 | [IDC]Dragon | any chance for undelete? |
| 21:55:28 | amiconn | Do you know an undelete to suited for NTFS? |
| 21:55:33 | amiconn | *tool |
| 21:55:36 | [IDC]Dragon | sortof |
| 21:55:56 | [IDC]Dragon | 1. don't do anything to the drive! |
| 21:56:16 | [IDC]Dragon | If it's your system disk, this may be a problem |
| 21:56:52 | [IDC]Dragon | the newly installed undelete tool may just reside in the precious sectors |
| 21:57:18 | [IDC]Dragon | I made good experience with EasyRecovery |
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| 22:00:33 | [IDC]Dragon | Hey, put that gun down! |
| 22:00:52 | [IDC]Dragon | Get away from the window! |
| 22:03:42 | amiconn | FinalRecovery does find numerous files, but not the ones I want back. :(( My modified WavTrim is gone as well. |
| 22:04:37 | [IDC]Dragon | Are you able to leave that partition unmodified? |
| 22:05:16 | amiconn | Not completely, since it is the sys partition. Of course I downloaded the tool with my other computer, and installed it to a different partition. |
| 22:06:19 | amiconn | I think it's gone, because FinalRecovery finds many of the files I wanted to delete, but unfortunately not my sources. |
| 22:06:48 | [IDC]Dragon | http://www.downloadfreetrial.com/utilities/util6125.html |
| 22:07:09 | [IDC]Dragon | this is supposed to work from DOS |
| 22:07:16 | [IDC]Dragon | (haven't tried it) |
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| 22:08:22 | amiconn | Can't use that since my laptop does not have a floppy drive. |
| 22:08:55 | [IDC]Dragon | ah |
| 22:09:52 | amiconn | I think I will have to rewrite everything. At least I know how to do things now. I figured out how to use sapi 4 from vbscript just before. It's a bit slow, since it works in realtime, but possible. |
| 22:10:45 | [IDC]Dragon | you can accelerate the speech |
| 22:11:10 | [IDC]Dragon | I would try some more undelete tools first |
| 22:12:06 | amiconn | I tried to accelerate the speech, but it doesn't work as documented. |
| 22:12:31 | [IDC]Dragon | TextAloud can do it |
| 22:13:51 | [IDC]Dragon | I can ask at work for an undelete recommendation |
| 22:13:52 | amiconn | Yes, but then TextAloud probably uses COM directly. With VBScript it is only possible to use ActiveX. |
| 22:16:04 | [IDC]Dragon | another one: http://www.r-undelete.com/ |
| 22:16:22 | [IDC]Dragon | can undelete up to 64k file size in demo mode |
| 22:16:50 | [IDC]Dragon | should be enough for a script |
| 22:19:31 | amiconn | Already tried Restorer2000 as well, this finds the same files as FinalRecovery, but unfortunately not my script |
| 22:20:41 | [IDC]Dragon | have you tried EasyRecovery Pro? |
| 22:20:56 | [IDC]Dragon | that's what save me once |
| 22:21:03 | [IDC]Dragon | saved |
| 22:21:31 | [IDC]Dragon | IIRC, it has some intense search mode, but takes a while |
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| 22:24:41 | amiconn | R-Undelete doesn't help too. From what I can find about EasyRecovery Pro, it is commercial and the demo cannot restore anything, only scan. |
| 22:25:17 | [IDC]Dragon | you can at least try if it finds it |
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| 22:40:00 | [IDC]Dragon | \o/ Bagder |
| 22:40:10 | Bagder | howdy |
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| 22:52:00 | [IDC]Dragon | Bagder: the new genlang script has a remaining problem: I can't phase out voice IDs. |
| 22:52:20 | Bagder | oh |
| 22:52:25 | Bagder | that's not very nice |
| 22:53:05 | [IDC]Dragon | and I don't have a good suggestion/idea on how to resolve |
| 22:53:51 | [IDC]Dragon | voice entries are those which have only a voice sting, no language string. |
| 22:54:49 | [IDC]Dragon | If I empty that voice string, by convention I have an empty language ID instead, shifting all the IDs. |
| 22:55:49 | Bagder | I get it |
| 22:55:59 | Bagder | we might need to add some magic string or something |
| 22:56:08 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe |
| 22:56:57 | [IDC]Dragon | or again look at the ID, whether it starts with LANG_ or VOICE_ |
| 22:58:22 | Bagder | true |
| 22:58:50 | Bagder | that's a pretty good choice |
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| 23:01:03 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm not overly excited about it |
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| 23:06:12 | Bagder | hi LinusN |
| 23:07:47 | LinusN | hi |
| 23:10:19 | [IDC]Dragon | Hi-ya |
| 23:10:27 | Bagder | LinusN: did you have any problems with that pcmcia g-card I borrowed from you? |
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| 23:12:39 | LinusN | yes :-) |
| 23:12:53 | LinusN | what problems do you have? |
| 23:13:45 | Bagder | the linux log says "harware error, resetting" ... and then "failed to reset... blabla" |
| 23:13:49 | LinusN | btw, i think using the LANG_ and VOICE_ prefixes is the easiest way of separating the voice-only entries |
| 23:14:10 | Bagder | but it works from time to time |
| 23:14:11 | LinusN | Bagder: hmmm, i never tried using linux with that card |
| 23:15:15 | LinusN | but i had spontaneous hickups with windows, but i'm pretty sure those were because my pccard slot is shaky on my laptop |
| 23:15:36 | LinusN | maybe the card is broken.... |
| 23:15:59 | Bagder | I'll experiment further and see what I'll find out |
| 23:16:07 | LinusN | good |
| 23:16:37 | LinusN | which chipset is it? |
| 23:16:49 | LinusN | atheros? |
| 23:16:51 | Bagder | yeps |
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| 23:18:34 | * | LinusN goes to see the second quarter of Portugal-Sweden |
| 23:18:57 | LinusN | quarter, hah, half i mean |
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| 23:26:47 | Guest | Does anyone know of a site to download rvf files to test the player? |
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| 23:28:43 | rossizzy | Is there a site to download a rvf file, with sound, to test the video player? |
| 23:28:58 | Bagder | rockbox.haxx.se/newvid/ |
| 23:29:12 | rossizzy | thanks |
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| 23:31:46 | [IDC]Dragon | Bagder: btw, you can delete the plugins from there |
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